The FF Dynasty - NFL Free Agency Review (EVERYTHING's CHANGED!)

0:00Shot clocks, big shots, upsets, aces, TGL playoffs are here. First, Atlanta Drive starts their repeat run against Los Angeles Golf Club, then! Rory's Boston Common Golf and Tigers Jupiter links face-off in their playoff debuts. Who will advance? Keep up its playoffs. Tune in Tuesday, March 17th at 6.30pm and 9.00pm only on ESPN and the ESPN app. What is good? We're back. We've got a special live edition today because we couldn't help ourselves. It's free agent frenzy. We've got all sorts of things changing, landscapes changing, how maybe picks are allocating draft picks, potential on what positions potentially changing today. Things came out as super hot and heavy like Jake Jarmel and Elaine Benniss. But I think we need to jump right into it just because these are sort of our first takes. It's not mean they'll be the last on these players, but Kenny Walker was the most exciting for the day.

1:05Whether we like it or dislike it, that's what we're here to find out. Jeremiah Chev, how are we doing today, boys? Man, it couldn't be happier to so happy. This is like Christmas. Christmas, baby. Chev's got the black Titan's hat on though, so I don't know how he's feeling today. Are you good? Well, I just really want to be malleable, employable, and really make sure that I am getting angular access to all of the information that's available to us today. Up up. Hey, yeah, that's right. Yeah, they love that angular access. If you're not getting angular access, you're leaving somebody dissatisfied, I'm sure. Hey, I just want to know what all this is going to impact Antonio Williams market. Just just got to know. That's right. Well, hey, that was the show. That was the show we're doing that we were supposed to do tonight was rookies and talking. But hey, we're going to get in here. We got some people in the chat already. We got job web. We got Marcus.

2:05We got Shane. We got the mano Mitch. What's up? Chiefs and Saints. New day. We're going to be. That's a good point. That's a good point. Shane. Yeah. Shane's the Saints. Chiefs and Saints. New love was going to be gone already. So, hey, that leaves us with. With Kenny Walker. Kenny Walker. To the chiefs. How do we feel about that now? We've we've gotten a different offensive coordinator in there. So, how does what be enemy wants to do? Link up with some success that maybe Kenny had or didn't have in Seattle, chef. I mean, I'm on the verge of a spiritual experience thinking about Eric be enemy coaching up Ken Walker. Like, there's I just tweeted that there's a this feels a lot like when Josh Jacobson with the Packers and people were like, well, his efficiency metrics have declined. And he has a very low success rate. And it's like, all right, that's cool.

3:07Watch this motherfucker play football and make your opinion based on that. Yeah. And I think that this is a smash by, like I said, there's a very vocal contingent to say, Ken of Walker is not that good. Ken of Walker didn't deserve. Chief keep dying. Chief keep talking about this. Chief keep talking about that. Shut the fuck up and watch Ken of Walker play football. Like that's that's what I feel. That's how I feel about it. This is a this is a smash. Like I said, it feels just like when Josh, when Josh Jacob signed with the Packers a couple of years ago and people were like, I don't know if he's that good. I don't think he's going to be. Yeah. Watch. Watch this. I am really excited about it. You know, it's it's does the scheme fit. And you know, Kenny stay healthy. Those are really the two biggest questions at least for me. I think the only question really of whether or not he's going to be, you know, a top five player or outside of that as if he's healthy or not, right? At least to me, because I think we saw through this playoff stretch. How good what what we've all been expecting for Kenny Walker for so long.

4:07And we finally got it and they gave him the backfield. And so now there's really nobody in the way for Kenny and this backfield. The question is, is how far does Kenny jump up in in some rankings and what not here? Kenny Walker right now coming in at 58 and the FF dynasty crowd source rankings. I'm assuming that's going to be shooting up when we look at this three day average come Wednesday potentially on the live show there. So excited to kind of review that. But Jeremiah, what's your thoughts on Kenneth Walker and how this fit is in Kansas City? Hey, if you were to tell me you can get prime a player prime Nick Chubb who can catch passes. Would you take it on the Kansas City chiefs? Absolutely. And that's Kenneth Walker two seasons ago 46 receptions when they actually utilize him somewhat properly. We had a dick ass usage last year between Charbonne and Ken Walker. And now we're just going to get unbridled angular access to Kenneth Walker goodness.

5:11Absolutely. Look, the chiefs had to do this song of dance. I was thinking about it today. At the beginning of their run, it was cream hunt bald out, right? And then of course he had what happened with him his trouble. And then it was down to, hey, you got fat, you got rich, first round pick, Clyde Edwards, Holler 32 overall. The chiefs invested highly in the backfield got mixed results, bad results. Then they go all the way to the seventh round, pendulum swing to Anasey Pacheco. And they got away with it for a while. And then this is just a verdict on the backfield for the chiefs. The front office saying, look, we want a guy like Kenneth Walker, we want a home run hitter. And you have to read the tea leaves. Where do teams reveal their intentions? It's at the draft during trades, free agent signings. Well, at the trade deadline too, remember the chiefs were in on Breeze Hall. So this is a second year imprint year over year where they go towards somebody like a Kenneth Walker. And you get Kenneth Walker.

6:11This is just a firm conviction that the chiefs are in on him. And you want that. We're not going to have any, you know, back and forth with a Zack Chauvinay. That's gone. So to me, wheels up, I think on underdog in the basketball streets. We're going to soar up to the first round. What would hold you back from the chiefs offense, the nut landing spot. You just got it in free agency instead of somebody like Jeremiah Love in the draft. As somebody in the comment had alluded to, well, you go and get your guy. And why not Kenneth Walker falling out? So I think he's going to shoot and soar way up for it. Chef, just to go back to how the enemy runs his offense and his running backs, you feel confident in this fit. Yeah, I think it's it. He got best. He's gotten the best out of some of some all-time great running backs. He just saw DeAndre Swift solve his problem with running between the tackles, you know, after being, after being coached up by the great one that is air of the enemy.

7:15On top of that, I think it's just a boom for the offense as a whole. And if we're going to get, if we're going to get the full, the full Monti, the fully realized, fully actualized version of Kenneth Walker catching passes from an all-time great quarterback with an all-time great play collar. And one of the best run backs coaches that we've seen, I don't understand. This is almost, this feels too big to fail. Like I said, we're going back to the Josh Jacobs paradox for a few years ago where all of a sudden Josh Jacobs has a bad season, goes out, gets a bag and free agency and people want to want to cite efficiency metrics and all this. And it's just, hey, can this dude play football? Is this guy going, is this guy unequivocally in the best environment that he's been in to play American tackle football? Yes. Who is the backfield competition? It's my guy, Rashard Smith, RIP. Am I not even going to be RIP, though? No, it's still fine. Yeah. But I do think, I do think, and I'm not going to, I'm not going to encourage people

8:18to go out and buy Rashard Smith. But you could go out and buy Rashard Smith because there's just, there's a chance that he's still going to be able to catch passes and have some sort of significance moving forward. And if something unfortunate happens with Kenneth Walker, there could be a bigger role. But I'm really excited about this. It felt, it just felt fake. I couldn't believe it. I kept checking to see if it was like the onion or, you know, something like, yeah, somebody, somebody clone Ricky Scoops account and made something up and everybody ran with it. I didn't know what was going on. But when I saw that it was real and, and Ian Rappaport and Shefty and all them came out with it. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I've been bricked up for more than four hours about this. There's some people that are like, oh, you know, is it going to even really mean anything with the chiefs? And we've been doing this for so long. We have been doing this for so long.

9:18But Andy Reed has also been good with running backs. It's just been a little slow the last couple of years. And they badly, badly need this and came out and recognized like, hey, we need a run game. People just aren't changing up what they're doing because they're not scared of us running the ball anymore. And this is a huge potential cog in the wheel. And you get the enemy back who is, you know, had success in Chicago. Like you mentioned, chef, last year, getting that running back room ready. Menungai gave him a lot of flowers. So I think this is all, all signs good for Kenneth Walker right now at R.B. 14 in the crowdsource rankings. Superflex Titan premium. We work. I was expecting him to kind of jump up the James Cook when he was going to be a free agent and from what we saw in the Super Bowl and it hasn't gone there yet. Is that where you guys kind of expect this to start rising up to like, you know, somewhere like underneath the HN tree here? Would you, is that fair or is it too much or what do we think Jeremiah? I think it's fair to put him pre show. I was thinking to my head Jonathan Taylor. Very about even with somebody like a Jonathan Taylor.

10:18I think you could argue that Jonathan Taylor may be too low on here. Share comparison to somebody like a breeze hall where breeze hall. It's not mapped out that he's got some bullish not landing spot. We have Kenneth Walker who's there. Jonathan Taylor, last I check is in a great situation. So I disagree a little bit with the breeze hall ranking. Travian Henderson I think is a little bit cart before the horse. So in this patch, I would say Bucky Taylor and Kenneth Walker could shift up just a little bit. Closer to James Cook. So to your point, closer to James Cook. Can Kenneth Walker get there? Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Let's do a couple swipes on old Kenny three sticks over here. But I do firmly believe that Kenny will be kind of rising up into that RB789 range. Kind of like you're talking about. But I agree. I think JT's a smidge low here. All right. I did JT swipes. Sorry about that. Let's get back to Kenneth Walker. Let's get a couple of swipes in on Kenny three sticks here.

11:21All right. Kenneth Walker or Luther Burton. You answer this one. Only you can answer this one. Only I can answer this one. I mean, I think I got to go with my boy Kenny. This is like these are like my picking children. I've gone with Kenny Walker. I think what do you guys think? No way. There's no way you're going to do it. You're going to do it. I'm going to do it. Hey, Casey, just the cope is you can go and draft somebody like Antonio Williams in your draft. Okay. That's right. That's right. What do you think, chef? I mean, Kenny. This is Kenneth Walker, man. We just got, we just got such, we're going to get such an insane boost in value to what Kenneth Walker, what Kenneth Walker's prospects are now. And, you know, there's people questioning what, well, when is my home's going to be ready? When is, brother, if there is no my homes, that means there's probably going to be about 27 touches a game for Kenneth Walker. Like, what, what are we doing here? We win if we win.

12:21And then we win some more when we win. Like, what do we do? So, yeah. This is Kenneth Walker. We're going Kenny over Bucky and we'll touch on some Bucky a little bit later. Right. We're going Kenny over Bucky. We're going to touch on. Yeah. Oh, we saw what happened with, was it Kenneth Gainwell? Did he go to Tampa Bay? Yes, right. Yeah. Yeah. Kenneth Walker, Jordan Love. Some kind of flex tied in premium. You got to go J love. I'm, I'm going to Walker. I'm, I'm riding with you, Jeremiah. All right. This is, this is chef picking against children. We got, we got George Pickens or Kenny Walker. George Pickens. It's, man. George Pickens. It's, man. It is George Pickens in Dallas for sure. Yes. Yeah. Which it looks like. It looks like it is. I'm sticking with Kenny three sticks and I'm clicking. So suck it boys. Chase Brown or Kenneth Walker. Kenneth Walker. Kenneth Walker. Kenneth Walker. Can we pick these here? Why, why this? The swipes should really do it to me tonight.

13:21Yeah. Don't be in a tear fair enough close. I, I agree. Me and Chase have been riding together for a while and I had to stick up for Kenny. Here we go. You're younger. Got the bag earlier. Yeah. There's no reason to go chase Brown unless, you know, you're Chase Brown's twin brother. All right. Last one. Omar, Omar Cooper or Kenneth Walker. So round the one eighty nine. I, I dared you to click Omar Cooper here. That's kind of. I look. Seventeen teams love and visited Omar Cooper. But this is hands down. It's Kenneth Walker. All right. I said one more. But Tyler Warren tight and premium or Kenneth Walker. Kenneth Walker. I'm going to Tyler Warren. It's more than point set. It was more. It's point seven five tight and premium or better. I'm going to Tyler Warren. In this version. It's in this version. It's, it's usually, it's point five, right? And I'm walking here. Kenneth, you're walking. You're walking. All right. I'm walking here. All right. Let's keep it moving here, boys.

14:21Somebody asked, what does this mean for sharbs? So what does this mean for the Seattle side? And we won't take every single one on each side here. But this one is interesting. Algiers signed, Rico signed. There's some of these other guys signed. Like, what do the Seattle Seahawks do? And how are we viewing Charbonne right at the moment? That is one of the most, that is one of the most nebulous assets out there in the dynasty space right now. Because it should be, if sharbs was healthy, everybody would be in the streets with their pants off. But now we know that they're going, they're going to add some sort of competition. Rashad White's still out there. You know, my guy's room four is still out there that we talked about. I believe on that show a little bit. Sean Tucker is still out there. Sean Tucker is still out there. There's still some guys that could have some, have some sort of value that people. I don't think people are really giving it enough credit for. But I, I would be interested to see how he comes back. Because this is his back season for him, right? This is the last year of his rookie deal. We want to see, we want him to perform well when he gets back on the field.

15:24I think that there, this pretty much just kind of this, this to me signals that they're going to add someone potentially for cheap and free agency. And then they're going to double down with insurance in the draft. You know, either early, late day two, early day three, kind of what their MO has been with their running back for the last five or six years or whatever. And it's just going to, it could turn into a muddy mess that Charbonne could be the backfield leader for when he comes back. I don't know. I've got to get some more information about, I mean, I guess we, we won't have it. We'll have that information when we have it. But to me, Zach Charbonne, one of the most, it's kind of choose your own adventure. Because if you bet on him and it's, it's just him and the day three running back, I think Zach Charbonne is good enough to hold that guy off and handle the workload. Well, if they add Sean Tucker and they add something in the draft, then you made that bet and you bet on the wrong horse because you lost. Yeah. No, I mean, it's a, it's a tricky situation with, with the sharps thing.

16:27It seems like it would be a really good buy. Maybe it's also a decent selling opportunity here. He's always been a tough one to market value, right? It's kind of threading a needle on one side. He could be a buy on one side. He could be a seller. Jeremiah, give me some Seahawks backfield talking them. We'll move on to ETN. Three names that make me salivate because now we're on the other end. We got Kenneth Walker clearly out and Zach Charbonne when will he return, right? So there's an opening. The door is cracked. Emmett Johnson, Jonah Coleman, Jadarian Price. There are three running backs in a similar tier of these working mocks that we have out here. And any one of those three who could go to Seattle, that would just be a not landing spot for the past catching ability. Be somebody like Emmett Johnson in his long speed. But then Jonah Coleman's three down skill set. I think would just be beautiful out in Seattle. All right. Well, we're about to shift over to ETN. But this one just popped up. Charbonne or Basel Tutten? Tutten. Rule of Tutten, Basel Tutten.

17:30All right. Well, we'll get to the, I want to talk about the Tutten side of things for sure. Jaden Reed or Charbonne? Jaden Reed now. All right. It's going to have to be until Charbonne comes back. Seems like we're everybody's not too sold on the Charbonne value right now. But it's okay. There's just so before we move on. There's just way too much uncertainty about what his situation is beyond 2026 and what his health situation is. And if you've watched football for long enough, you know good and well, John Snyder's going to add something to this backfield of significance. It's not going to be Zach Charbonne and Jordan Talani after a towed notator. It's just not fair enough. Yeah, I agree. I agree. Instead of going after Charbonne, go look over and shop in some Jonathan Brooks. Okay. There's a dent in the can. There's opportunity for more of a throw in. Charbonne FS is maybe a throw in, but I don't think it's somebody that you attack

18:32necessarily with intentionality. You just wait. Wait it out. Yeah. All right. Let's move over to the ET. He goes over to the Saints. What does this do for the market value of ETN? How strongly do we feel about it? Is this keep them about the same? Does it drop them? Does it lower them? What's your thoughts on ETN here, Jeremiah? I think it's very much a lateral move, but it's a good move. I don't know how they did it with their money laundering issues and their cap issues, but last year we are with some Travis ETN. It's just one of a cool split. If you have ETN in Tutan in Dynasty, it's a blackjack split that theogrammager always talks about and refers to. So we're getting the bullish angle on Tutan. Of course, there could still be the draft. But this seemed to be like a two-year process in waiting with Liam Cohen and the Jags where they brought in Tutan, but ETN balled out. So it's the best of both worlds for both. And here we have ETN. I was thinking about it today. He's in the indoor NFC South in what's the core field of the NFL in New Orleans.

19:40Paired with somebody like Tyler Shock. And I think that's a good spot to be in. The shootouts that are in the NFC South. Give me ETN. And in that environment, I think he's just going to be cold out there. He's going to prosper too very well. She have what's your thoughts on this ETN? What does this do for his value up down the same? Are you interested? Disinterested? What are you doing here? Massive boost in value. Massive boost in value? Massive boost in value. Why so? From Jacksonville or just because we knew there was going to be a new landing spot and you like the new landing spot. I really like the new landing spot. We're talking about Travis ETN being in the offense that has produced some of the best. Some of the best fantasy production for all parties involved for the last three or four years. And I feel like I'm taking crazy pills. What's killing more is the guy. He's the fantasy. He's the fantasy. Boom. He's might. He's the new. The new hotness. The Kyle Shanahan, the Sean McBae.

20:41He's done it over and over and over again. So we went. We look at what, you know, Austin Eckler was able to do in that abbreviated season before he got hurt with Kelly Moore. I mean, he was basically the RB two and points per game. Then we shift over. We shift over to Saquon. Saquon, all time great season. You know, you can say it's the offensive line or whatever. And then we got a new Orleans last year and we all thought that we were going to be one of the worst offenses in the league. Not only were they excellent and they played with pace. And so they were averaging about 68 plays a game. But Tyler Schutt gave you five QB one performances. Obviously the team kind of wants to move on. They're telling you as Jeremiah said earlier, they tell the truth about their intentions. So they're going to move on from Alvin Camero. They gave him a four year, $52 million deal. So he's 13. He has 13 million a year. We talked about it on the free agency show. He was projected for about six and a half. So we got double what he's projected on the Spotrag Market from the Saints. So, and we get the fast track with all of this, all of this positive signal going on.

21:44I think that this is a massive, massive win for Travis CTN's value. I think it's a massive win for Travis CTN dynasty owners. I think it's a massive win for the Saints offense because they get, they get three years younger than Alvin Camero with a back with, he's not as good as Prime Alvin Camero. But could he be 80% of that and get massive volume and handle 300 touches and do, do equivocate what some of what he did in Jacksonville last year? And probably potentially exceed that. Yes. I think this is a massive win for Travis CTN today. Yeah. He's coming in at player 80 overall on Super Flex Titan premium, the running back situate RB 18 currently. So guys like Sequan, Kyron, Christian McCaffrey. Is he appropriately placed in the market right now above Javante, above Skatebo, above Jacobs, above Harvey? What are we, is there, is there some movement there for him? Or you think that's appropriately placed right now? I, I like that.

22:45I like that spot. I like that spot a lot because there's, to me, Kyron would have been a safer, Kyron would have been a safer bet because he's younger. He's got the contract security. Is it a better offense? No matter how you slice it. But him coming, him landing with the Saints, he's at RB 18. There's almost no way that if he's going to play 15 games, he's going to finish as the RB 18. And it's right. This is a points in your lineup move where he could very easily be a top 10 running back in points per game and finished like as a top five running back overall with just how, just how this offense functions. And it's just a, like I said, it's a great environment for fantasy. It's a great ecosystem. It's a great environment. They've gone and took taking the steps to really rebuild that offensive line. And as long as Tyler Schucks healthy, I think, you know, Spencer Rowley doesn't throw the ball to run back. It's just not something that, that's just not something that he does. I just, I can't, unless he's not healthy or the monster,

23:46steal his powers again, I don't see how this completely backfires. Yeah. Right here, we got the ADP tool kind of pulled up. This is not available on the website currently. But we'll be, you can kind of see Travis ETN 712 RB 22. So we have all the other players filtered out RB 22 712. Now this is obviously old ADP with, that's going to jump up, right? Like we're talking about, we're going to see him kind of move up to probably closer to the RB 18 kind of roll probably up around or two. I think there's going to be a little bit more consumer confidence in ETN. Go ahead, Jeremiah. I see you. Yeah. I'm so glad you brought this board up because as I'm looking at it. Okay. The couple of people around him seems fair, appropriate price. But if you look at Quinch on Jockins and the Josh Jacobs, I almost think that we could get ETN to jump in that patch over there towards a Jockins, towards a Josh Jacobs, where we're getting the better utilization, we're getting more of that past catching ability. And to what chef said, not finishing the 18 every single week in fantasy.

24:49Well, how does he do it with the players above him? I think you've got to criticize and be a little bit more, I don't know, just more of a microscope on the Quinch on Jockins scene with Cleveland. It's not really all roses there for sure. And then with Green Bay, Josh Jacobs, he's a warrior. He's a great player. But then again, we're getting a boost as chef was talking about in that passing game and the indoor shootout environment for ETN. So how it ends up looking is I think ETN ends up up there to not be the RB18 for at least this season. I have it in my calendar Thursday. There's going to be a pie to the face. Maybe you owe us a pie to the face. That's cool. I will, I owe a pie to the face for sure. But I'm not really sure what this in reference to. I'm sure there's other pies amongst people here as well. But on the other side, it makes ETN a sell says Greg here. I mean, I think if you're not a competitor, it could make him a sell. Yeah, that's a great point.

25:50On the flip side of the market of what you can do with ETN now, if your team is nowhere near competing for a championship in 26 and possibly 2027, you have the leverage to try to sell to a bonafide contender and you're going to happily take a late first plus to get out of the ETN business so that you can continue this rebuild. Hopefully, hopefully it comes with something else in a player. So you're not just selling for a pick and you can have some sort of equity there. Yeah, he's 27 years old. So this is a gift if you want to sell. And if you're at that point in dynasty where, hey, I'm a middling team, I'm trying to rebuild. That's a great point as you said, chef. On the other side, there's markets. And this is beautiful because by side sell side, you have a sell side opportunity there for Travis ETN, which you may have prior to last season probably felt like you were holding the bag and you just have to wear it sometimes and you get another peak.

26:53Yeah, PD says he's curious where the website's pulling its ADP from. We make our own ADP. We have several drafts all month long and then every 30 days we update it with more ADP. So we have fast drafts. We have slow drafts. You can join the discord that's the best place to get in them. The Patreon gets first access. But yeah, we make our own ADP. So this isn't being pulled from anywhere except for from real drafts that we've completed here. Obviously, this is not reflecting the market that these free agent changes are going to have in it. But I just figured it was a good way to kind of look at some stuff here. But Basel Tutin's the other side of this thing. And we mentioned him for a second there. So what is the fallout with Tutin here? I mean, obviously, Chef, you and I have talked about kind of almost threading the needle on Tutin here. So is it time to pull the trigger and get out at potential peak here? Because we don't think we're not confident that Jagswires won't bring in somebody else or how are we viewing the market here on Tutin?

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29:01I don't want to sell basil to now I could go higher. This has been the bell cow. We saw a resurgence for me TN under under Liam Cohen. We saw career highs and efficiency over, you know, with Rashad white and we saw the emergence of Bucky Irving. So there's too many positive indicators for me to sell for anything less than a premium for Basil Tutin right now. Now they could add someone else and I think liquid Allen who, you know, going back to our discussions all the way back at the beginning of the 2025. I like the liquid Allen a lot. He's also already earned a role as a pass catcher. I mean, a pass blocker. And I think that that lends itself to him being able to be trusted. Remember in college, he led the nation amongst running backs and receptions in 2025 was 64. So this is a guy that is going to earn more snaps. And that might be the biggest takeaway from here because liquid Allen is probably in the three. I was looking through my ranks last night. I would bet you went out in this below the 300s in terms of.

30:01But for Basil Tutin, you waited this long. You got what you wanted. So why would you? Why if you can't just live in here now because you knew this was coming. If you listen to us, you said, hey, there could be a tie J Spears, ask a bump. The minute that we know Travis ETN is no longer going to be in Jacksonville. And I'll be in long winded, but I really, really think that this is signal to where we could go. Far, far up from here. Go ahead. We've. Jeremiah hop in here at any point, but yeah, we've. It does feel like cheap cheap Tutin is is fun right now. And or sorry, cheap, uh, cheap liquid Allen is fun right now. Oh, yeah. Echo. Echo, what Chef said about the waiting principle. If you were already doing this for a year, you knew what was going to happen. And you have an opportunity granted. There's entry point wherever you got him in your work e draft last year. Sure, you could sell for a higher price. But I actually think the higher price could end up being somewhere peaked.

31:02Uh, hey, after September, your four to five games into the season. And Tutin is a guy. Any high power Jaguar, Liam Cohen offense as chef was talking about. And then you're able to ask anything that you want because we know running backs in season. They gained so much more value because week to week, hey, I can get the liability of 20 points on a given week. Byered away. And then you're getting more liquidity in those picks that aren't so important. Right now people have the working fever for the picks. So it's really, I don't think it's the best time for high value. Even though there's a spike right now for Tutin, I think there's a higher peak for him. And if you waited this long, it's kind of silly to back out now. It's like, yeah, don't you want to go through with it on prom night? That's right. That's right. Just got to wear protection because you don't, you know, nine months. It's good to have a issue. You better wear it anyway. You don't want the light. I think I'm late. I was going to go there and then I was like, yeah, maybe I'll let it go. But well done, sir. Tutin has already been on the rise because people have been kind of forecasting this.

32:05You can see he's up kind of 36 here. All right, Jonah Coleman is somebody in this draft, rookie fever. Probably a late first round pick. Would we rather have a Jonah Coleman, who is right now, you know, only a few spots away from Tutin? And we don't know the landing spot or a, or a, or a basal Tutin right now, chef. This is a, this is a, that's a really tough one for me because I really like Jonah Coleman a lot. So, but I can, I'm going to go with proof of concept. And I'm going to operate as though basal Tutin is going to be the primary ball carrier, or at least the lead one a guy for this Jacksonville backfield in 2026. And I'll go basal Tutin. Yeah, Jeremiah fire out basal Tutin because we have clarity as a scissor right now. Why play in anything vague as much as we want to wish cast as we said the Pirate scenario to Seattle. It's not written in pen anchor anything. Yeah, so this is kind of maybe looking forward here.

33:05Looking at 27's 27 early second or basal Tutin. I think you can get more playability from Tutin time value of the player. Yeah, I mean, Tutin could be worth, could be worth the late first in 2027 just because I stack that class is perceived to be right now. But he's worth the late first right now today because of the Taj A Spears paradox. But he could be worth a 27 first in an awesome class if we just get him on the field being good at football. Yeah, and if you if you haven't checked out the ff dynasty.com right now. What we've got pulled up is the crowd how we do the crowdsource rankings. It's much like a dynasty tinder. If you will, he brings up people in the range. You swipe on it and you keep it moving right now. We're just doing swipes on basal Tutin. And here is Tutin or Coleman. I'm going to go Coleman here. You guys like Tutin. I understand, you know, kind of the same probably vain as you were saying with that 22nd or 27 second for Tutin versus Coleman. And potentially here is that makes sense.

34:05Maybe get a little bit more out of Tutin this year. Yeah. They're they're very different players. How they go about their business is that is that correct? Yeah. Yes. In prior to what we said, Jonah Coleman goes to Green Bay. It's parked. It's a one year. It's a Tutin plan. Just for the player in this scenario. And then Jonah Coleman goes to Seattle. And it's a different conversation. All right. Yeah. Tutin or Mnungai. Tutin. Tutin. Clear. Clear runway. Tutin or Britain. Strange tight and premium. Oh, man. What's the premium? 0.5. So Tutin. Yeah. It's still OK. Did Aryan Price or Tutin? Tutin. Coleman concept. All right. Last one. Parker Washington or Tutin. Shit. I think I go Parker Washington just because proof of concept what he's already done. I'm having some aggressive vision. I told you I'm having some aggressive visions about Parker Washington. He's catching.

35:05He's the boys like him. The boys like him. Yeah. Yeah. I can feel it in my bones. No kidding. All right. Let's finish that one up. Let's keep it moving here. Ready for market. Let's keep it moving here. Let's go. We got. We're going to do Willis or likely next. Actually here. This is a good question real quick. Somebody up here asked he just joined the show as a one one owner. Where do you think love is heading after some of these moves today? It's a good question. Commanders are earlier. So commanders or then the Titans had a visit. Do you like that you think the Titans are taking Jeremiah love? Yes. OK. Would you be bummed if that happened? Would I from a fantasy perspective? I'm just any perspective. Take it. Take it however you want. Real real life. No, I would love it. I was super pumped. When I'm team running backs are awesome.

36:07I don't buy into the spreadsheet bullshit that running backs don't matter. And you can just get replaced with a little Tyler Alger and Kenneth Walker. Because you get the same production you can give for cheaper. Get out of here with that shit. Me personally, I think guys like Jameer Gibbs. Like I think he's that level of talent. Jameer Gibbs Vaughn H.N. Jonathan Taylor, Breeze Hall, all the sake one, all those guys. He's going to come in and make a splash like that. Hey, and I want to be for my team. Okay. He's excited. Yeah. Chef is really excited too because he's going to have Wondale Robinson on his squad. I love to see it. I honestly, honestly, I would take, I would take a bowl full of soft serve and pour it on my head in the sauna. Okay. I did not want Wondale Robinson. But we're here now. He's a titan. I'll adjust. Whatever. Hey, Ken Moore gets his Xavier Restrepo in the NFL. But one last go. We had, we had, we had Wondale Robinson at home.

37:10We have to be dead. No, that was, no, that was McDowell's man. Wondale Robinson, 190. That's the last few years. Not having a baby. It's a real deal. It's the NFL baby. Hey, one last note to the commenter's question. The Cardinals. There's clarity there as well where they sign Tyler Alger and you crowd up, muddy up that backfield with a restructure, trade Benson. Or sorry, James Conner and then trade Benson. And then you've got Tyler Alger. So that's one last. Yes. All right. All right. For the front office member of the Titans, Monty Austin Ford doing the Lord's work and taking him out of the Jeremiah love sweet steak. All right. Let's, let's talk about Willis to Miami here. How do we, how do we feel about that? There's been, we've, we've, we've talked to Willis plenty on this show. We all like Willis. How do we, how do we view Malik Willis from a fantasy perspective moving into year one in Miami, Jeremiah? It's just a fantasy football opportunity where look, if you're in a keeper league or you're

38:13in a fantasy league where you've gotten a cheap entry point price for Willis, you are just over the moon right now because you're just going to get at least a year of guaranteed starts. Look, the dolphins, how bad you have to be to pay a guy $99 million not to play for you into a tag of Veloah. So this is just bullish for Malik Willis. And this is like a, a 10 backer in stocks, but just for a fantasy football where you get Malik Willis at such a, the bag that you're holding, it's just 10 times heavier in a good way because of how much profit you're about to experience. And am I a little concerned about what would be the reception angle for somebody like a Devon H. And sure, let's see how the dump offs go. But I'm very happy for the path on somebody like Amelike Willis because we see structure set for NFL games constantly mess up and we saw Sam Darnold right in play exhibit a the highest level. We have quarterbacks all the time.

39:14Geno Smith had a recovery in his career Baker Mayfield. The list goes on and on. A lot of them go to the Shanahan school or team McVeigh school clipboard. But you see how things work out. The floor, not too far off in Green Bay. Green Bay has been a quarterback factory. Now, of course, the question is does this become Matt Flynn where hey, we just pulled the slot and we cashed out big? Or is this a continuation for a longer career for Malik Willis? I'm happy for a second stop or sorry, his third stop. But it's his second, you know, chapter here in the NFL. I'm thrilled about it. So I love it from fantasy. I think on a given week, you get anywhere to a back end QB1 to a middle QB2 with the rushing upside. How do you feel about this? Yeah, he's got some familiarity, some comfortability. And what is really like a pretty big stop for him? Like he's going here. He's getting some money. He's kind of rehabilitated his career a little bit. And then Miami again, some comfortability with GM and head coach.

40:19Obviously, Slowick doesn't know him. Although in a Shanahan system, he does seem like somebody who could be a benefactor of it, can move around a little bit and complete the deep ball. He's accurate. It's just not a whole lot of tape down of saying that we got to we're super confident in it. So how do you see this chapter playing out from Malik Willis? I think that if they can, if they can shore up the offensive line enough to just give him the ability to move through a progression and then use his legs, I think this is going to be really good for fantasy. I saw the Justin Fields 2.0. That's the rushing floor could be similar to that. But I think that Malik Willis has spent the time on task with a bonafide really good offensive mind and schemer in Matt LaFour so that we don't have the same shell shock things that we had with Sam Darnal with the Jets, Daniel Jones with the Giants. He's gone, he's done the quarterback rehab.

41:19And I think that if they can just support him to just even a baseline average degree, he's going to be a middling to low end QB1 because of the rushing upside. And then this leads to a resurgence for Jalen Waddle. This leads to a resurgence for this leads to potentially Malik Washington breaking out. If they add someone in the draft, even better, if they add someone of significance on day one or day two in the draft, he's in the best environment to succeed outside of being with a bonafide quarterback guru. So I'm really excited about how this plays out. Again, LaFour comes from both Shanahan and McVeigh. He's got a combo platter of them and then Slowick has ties back to Shanahan in there. And then all these guys, the defensive head coach that they hired and their GM are both from Green Bay.

42:19So that's where the comfortability of maybe them of Willis not feeling like there's a lot like, hey, we know each other. They brought me in because they know what I can do. There's confidence there. It's not like, hey, this might be a one and done. So I think some things line up really good. It's just what are they going to be the weapons around him to help him flourish. Right now it's it's Waddle and H and and we don't really have a clear picture of much else. How good is the line is a part of it, but Willis can create a little bit on his own to buy some time. So, you know, Miami, we've seen, you know, plenty of quarterbacks come back and like you said, complete rehab and and stay off the shit. And is that what we're going to get here? I don't know that I trust Miami enough yet as a as a franchise. They got they got to do what Jacksonville just did or I mean, even to Carolina is in some extent of like, hey, we we've changed to like they need franchise rehab. And I think maybe those guys are the guys. But again, to quarterback is just such an environmental product that it's just it's it's it's it's the most difficult thing to predict.

43:25And I think Willis has the ability to do that. Now, do you sell high or is this like a if I can get a first if I could get, you know, a middle first round pick for him in 26 or a random 27. Are we selling Willis or how are we riding this out? I think you should or chef whoever wants to take it. Well, this is funny enough it shea and I are in a league. And I sent him something like a second and another player for Malik Willis. This was early in the off season. And shea must do least said I'm going to wait it out because there's going to be another peak. And sure enough, he knew that I know that we knew this would happen. And he got the bag. He got the contract. I think this is absolutely a point where you sell for the random 27 or a middle to high 26 depending on how people feel. It's nothing wrong with cash and out, especially based on your build. If you have somebody like Malik Willis and you're a very good team, you probably have depth. And you had him for a cheaper acquisition cost. So now the exponential value in the rise where you could scaffold and build your team at other positions.

44:30I think you absolutely have to sell. It's a great spot to sell. And you pray for opportunities like this. Hopefully we'll get that with somebody like a Mac Jones who was very free as well. And I think there were opportunities last year. I'll be it and ended up in injury, but Daniel Jones actually provided that as well. So you get a buoy system. You have opportunities to get out. It doesn't mean players are always dead. Sometimes you just have to hold them for a while. Yeah. And I, you know, right here, we're looking at the ADP tool at the FF Dynasty dot com. He's at 912. I think there's some factor that he was going to be a free agent in Lansom where already built into a lot of this. I don't know how much more climbing we see from Malik Willis here. Now there's stability and an answer. Maybe it's around or two. Would you guys rather have Michael Pentax or Malik Willis moving forward? Did we not get some news about two of and Atlanta? Right. Well, I mean, he's coming off an injury both left handed. He's free. I mean, so yeah, there's certainly some conversation to be had there.

45:31Yeah. But I, yeah, so what's Pentax for what's on the legs? I'll take for the rushing upside, the fancy viability. Somebody like a Malik Willis, especially in a four point format. Chef. Yeah, that pains me. If I feel like I'm trying to captain Durag, but I. Yeah. I don't think we can get a late first for Michael Pentax right now. That's fair. That's fair. I believe in Michael Pentax a whole lot. I would stick with with Pentax here. But I mean, maybe we don't even see Pentax for half a year or a whole year. If two, it goes in there and plays. All right. You know what? That's good. Go ahead. No, I'm good. Go ahead. No, I just for if we're talking, making more than more than a one year bit, I think I still believe in Pentax. The talent. I'm nervous about what when the who, where, when, why of how he's going to be on the field.

46:31If I want to sell or anything right now, I don't feel like I can sell. I feel like I can get more from Malik Willis right now today than I can for Michael Pentax. And that's why I would be on Malik Willis right here. Much more excitement. Like to me, I like, I like to tear down two Pentax. What else can I get on top with coming from, from Willis? Like that's kind of a move. I don't, I don't mind making that by low on Pentax. If I can get something in between to bridge that gap and get a little because I do think I'm going to be on the field eventually. They'll end up either being the same or I think advantage Pentax. Maybe Malik comes out and just shuts it down and it's just, you know, one of these fourth, fifth round quarterbacks here in a year or two. But like you'd rather have guys like Shuck, Donald, Cam Ward, all over Malik Willis right now. Yeah. A question, Casey, would you tear down same principle Malik Willis down to JJ McCarthy and what would you want? Yeah. You just get away, run away, right away. I don't want to do that. Okay. Cool. Same page.

47:31Just wanted to check. Yeah. I don't want to do that. Me and JJ, I've never been that cool. I like the landing spot. I like the weapons. Um, always thought maybe it was a little overrated and, and, you know, sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. You can't win them all. But that one right now looks good. But I mean, hey, um, he can end up being really solid. So, um, let's keep it moving here because we're running out of time here. Yeah. Let's quickly go over to Isaiah likely and how we feel like that value, um, is and has moved and whether we're in on the out on that. She had all, I'll pick it to you first. Why are you going to me first? Because I think, I think you're better. I think you're going to be a little bit in the negative town here, which I think is good. Yeah. I've got, I've got my player, Hayter Goggle's own. And I am, I was really bummed out by the signing, just being totally honest with you. I was really bummed out and I expressed this such. I, I can't create a path to 110 targets for him now. I think he's one of the most talented past catching tight ends in the league.

48:32I think if he's given the opportunity, he's, he would be able to perform. And now, you know, it's just, are he and Theo Johnson going to cannibalize each other? They're still dairy slate in there. I did not want this landing spot. I was hoping that maybe Tampa stepped in and let Kate, I didn't go. And then, you know, really gave him a chance to be that, to be that secondary tertiary option in an offense because I do believe he's a mismatched nightmare. So maybe they figure it out, but I also have way less faith because I think Matt Nagy sucks as a play caller. And this is, this was just not an environment that I wanted him to land in. I was personally really, really saddened by this because I wanted him to go somewhere where I could create a path to 100 to 120 targets because I think he's that good. Like if he goes to, if you turn Dalton Schultz targets in Houston to Isaiah likely targets, he's a top three tight end. Like I, I will, I will die on that hill and we'll never know. So I don't have to die on that hill, but I genuinely believe that.

49:34And if you ask me that, I will tell you that I think that he's one of the best tight ends in the league. He's just never going to get the type of volume that is great from a real fantasy perspective. What do you think there, Maya? You can put likely over Theo Johnson, but the fact of matter is they're close enough where they're just going to both be on the field. So you don't get enough of that separation set that you'd like. And it's just a kind of a tough spot. This is, I guess akin to Tyler Algier, going to the Cardinals and us being like, ah, man, just not really quite what we wanted. It's okay. It's just not great. It's really not the best. Same thing for Isaiah likely. It does help though. The sneaky, you know, reflexive part of it is a fact that Jackson Dart just gets another weapon in the chamber that you can build upon. And then if we compound it with somebody like a carnal tape in the draft and you have Malik neighbors, this would be phenomenal. Sneaky winner. Cam Scadabo.

50:34Yeah. Right now some of that wave. So we'll see. There's, you know, things can still happen, but winners right now are Jackson Dart and Cam Scadabo. Yeah, Anglo. Anglo. SAS and the SAS and has a digest symbol. It's here. It looks good. Oh my god. Oh my god. Oh my god. I got, I got to, I got to disagree on the likely take here. I think this is great. I think he goes again, there's familiarity here. And while I love Theo, I thought Theo was going to break out. Um, I do think that there are similarities in the two players, but I think they just paid likely and likely is going to get the advantage here. Like we're going to see like they don't have it. If they draft for now, I really like it. If they draft another high-end player at in the first round here. And it's, and it's a taters up. I like this a lot less, but you're going to bring in likely here. We've seen him have flashes with Harbaugh. Now obviously Harbaugh is not running the offense, but like them enough to bring him in, give him some money.

51:35Right. Um, I think you can line him up in the slot, which they did some in Baltimore. I think it like they don't have another target right now. And I think he's basically just the souped up wide receiver at the tight end position. So, you know, which I think Theo is as well. So like the redundancy there, I think just hurts Theo more than it, you know, hurts likely. Because to me, this is like, and I don't love the follow the money thing all the time. But it just makes more sense that likely is going to get the advantage to get first crack at things. And I don't, I think likely with an opportunity is going to run with it. I just, I can't see it. I can't look for a real life perspective. We're going to see, we're going to see more of Isaiah likely. Then we have at any point in this career in Baltimore. Does that turn into more than 70 targets? I don't know. I don't think so. Any last thoughts, Jeremiah, before we move on, we'll try to get a couple more things in before we wrap up today's live.

52:36And we'll be back on Wednesday, live, and then me and Cheval have another recorded session on free agent. So we're going to be free agents all week long. If we don't get to something that you guys are wanting, we're going to hop over to Patreon after this and talk more free agents. So yeah, this, this just boosts up of Jackson Dart. It's really, it's siphons off too much. There's too much siphoning that's happening with the O Johnson. I don't think you can just disregard the O Johnson. It's going to be a situation where in the red zone, Jackson Dart, it'll be one or the other. And you'll be pissed because you'll be like, all right, is it 88? Goddard is 86 Earths. And then the, the way they turn, you're like, oh, damn it. It's Goddard when you wanted Earths and it's Earths when you wanted Goddard. Likely or Tray Benson? No. Okay, likely. I mean, after all that. Likely or Kittle? Kittle is really down in the rankings right now. Obviously hurt and old. I'll still go Kittle. He's not dead yet. Jacobi Myers or likely? Titan premium, point five.

53:36Likely. Pat Brian or likely? Likely. Breton Strange. Strange. Strangely. Strangely. Strangely. Today we're in crisis. Yeah, that's 10. That was, that was, yeah. I'm going to likely up. Yeah, that's right. I'm going to live. I think if, if, if strange can get a ton of volume and enough to make him relevant, then likely's got to be getting more volume than strangers. Well, who's the Theo Johnson in the Jacksville Jaguars off and so? Why do I, like, they just paid, what I'm saying is they just paid likely though. So why? Yeah. Okay. All right. All right. Why they think it likely out the field rather. I follow that. That's fair. I don't agree. It's fair. But it's an area in price or likely. Likely. I don't, I mean, I don't, we don't know. We don't know. We don't know. I think price. But again, it can sound crazy because before I was like, it could be vague, but I'll risk it with price versus likely.

54:38I don't think likely is going to make the pro bowl. Sarat or likely to drop. Oh, a lot of Sarat haters out there. Jalen McMillan are likely. That's a fun one. Mike Evans is Sam Fran. McMillan heating up at the end of last year. McMillan time. Are we going likely? Yeah. I mean, Jalen McMillan Baker may feel gets healthy again. And if we don't get the draft capital, as it says right now, it's McMillan and a book a book a huge boost. Yeah. Sorry. I just got really excited. Who you going here? I'll go. I'll go Jalen McMillan. All right. Let's finish that one up. All right. Let's talk. I think there was some Harvey questions in there. I think people are interested in that. Is there any other thing that y'all want to get to before we wrap this up? Because I do want to talk about Denver and Harvey and all that. So is there anything else that you want to bring up here? Yeah. Mike Evans. San Francisco 49ers. How pumped are we? The people who were on Ricky Pearsall as, hey, there's nobody else.

55:39How did you ever think that that was going to stand? I always thought that was just bizarre and crazy. You can be in on Ricky Pearsall, but to expect and think that it's just going to be the Ricky Pearsall show. And that was what was going to lift him. I thought was absolutely asses in line. So it does put in a little puncture to late round one wide receiver draft capital. But we do see Brenna Iyuk on the way out, but we get Mike Evans who can catch 80 balls this year. You know, he's been a 70 to 80 catch guy hits 1000 yard mark and then can go ham double digit touchdowns. Can we get 80 to 90 receptions in a Kyle Chanhan offense being thrown from Brock party? I am enamored for the receiver position. I think it's more impactful than Alec Pears for fantasy. Like a week one, who are you going to want? Alec Pears and week over week in 2026. Alec Pears are Mike Evans. To me, it's not even close. So I'm very fired up for just the immediacy. Somebody like a Mike Evans.

56:39Yeah, I mean, to me, I mean, obviously Mike Evans and and Joanne Jennings are not going to are not going to operate as far as like what exactly what Joanne Jennings does. But like, I feel like that's the replacement. It's obviously I think it's a big upgrade. Maybe not so much in tenacity and maybe run blocking of kind of what Joanne does. But like, you're going to be able to get Mike on those third downs. You're going to be able to get Mike in the red zone. Whereas he can use that size and, you know, his, you know, rebound ability to do things and continue drive. So, you know, I think you, I don't think I don't think there's a first round wide receiver to San Francisco. So although, you know, certainly could be. But to me, I think this is, is a nice play. San Francisco to me right now is like that dynasty team who, you know, has been good for the last, you know, seven years and people are just waiting and dying for that. When are you going to rebuild? And they like, they just keep adding the older pieces and getting to the playoffs and they got a chance to win, right?

57:39I didn't hear no bell. Right. And at the same time, they've been kind of adding some younger pieces throughout that can be effective. And this will be a big draft for them to kind of see where this goes. But I think this is a fun, a fun ad for San Francisco. Hey, we got somebody in the comments talking about Evans. Can we get them on the field for 50% of the games? We're talking about almost every year except last year. He played 13 or more games. So what are we talking about? I wore it. Yeah. It's just, it's, it's the hamstring issues. It's the, it's the games where he would just come in and then be just on the field for one catch for one yard and to touch down. Yeah. It's the consistent soft tissue injuries that worry me. Otherwise, if we were getting, if you said, I mean, you upgraded to a Hall of Fame receiver that probably is going to play more of a, play more of a prominent role in the red zone with the uncertainty surrounding. So I'm good on all fronts there. It just, it feels kind of weird to say Mike Evans is a 49er.

58:41It's the substation. Hey, it is the substation. Hey, Mike Evans with that substation. Oh, my God. His hamstrings are going to turn into string cheese. That's tough. Yeah. We didn't get J.P. Tay. I hope, hopefully I said that right. Yeah. So Rico and Steelers backfield guys to finish, please. Yeah. Well, let's, let's do Harvey first. Okay. And that, you know, Dobbins comes back. It's all best. There's still people thinking that the Broncos are adding more to this backfield. I think this is just as simple as we dabbled in there. We did our due diligence to see if we could get this luxury item. It didn't work out. We bring Dobbins back. We have Harvey. We go back at this thing, right? I don't know that there's very much more coming into Denver outside of, you know, ancillary pieces like, you know, of some, you know, like, could Keaton Mitchell end up in Denver. Certainly, just like I just just pulling a name out.

59:42That's cheap and whatever that could go right. That could happen. But nobody else who's going to, I think, be detrimental to what Harvey could do in the touch. So Jeremiah, hop in here. Oh, I'm very happy about RJ Harvey. I think that's just great for his value. It's the best thing that could have happened. We were talking about maybe it could be Breeze Hall. It could be Kenneth Walker. There were some bigger names out there. Fear Street was out there. It was real for RJ Harvey. If the best that we're going to get as far as competition is a JK Dobbins. I think that's actually great for year two growth for an RJ Harvey. And it's kind of better the devil that you know. Kind of like Jonathan Brooks, if he just has somebody like a Chuba Hubbard and you don't get outside competition to come in and Carolina, it's more bullish for somebody like Jonathan Brooks. So I like that for year two on RJ Harvey. It was about to be real bad. If it was going to be that aggressive in the running back front. And then it also protects with Denver going for Dobbins. I don't think they go after running back in the NFL draft. I think they're set in a good way.

1:00:43And it gives me a better indication as a RJ Harvey holder. Much more happy. Yeah, you got to be all the all the RJ Harvey people rejoice at this point. Although, you know, I didn't. If Bruce comes in, it is what it is. What can you do? It's good good for the Broncos. But other than that, it seemed like Harvey was going to have the role that he just had. And you know, continue to build on it because that's what he did this past season, right? Do you have any thoughts here? Acton like RJ Harvey's top down as a player is a huge mistake. It was nonsensical. They're the minute that these rumors about Bruce popped up. You have people popping out saying, oh, he was a terrible pick. He's a terrible pick for fantasy and he's never going to be good. And he's just dead. He's just, yeah, he can't run between the tires. Like, man, players grow, players develop. And there was a stretch where he was 19 points again when it was just him, Dolo in the backfield. And I think it's going to be more of a split between he and JK Dobbins.

1:01:43And it was to get off the ground last year, full off season, full off season, learning the offense, ingratiating himself into the offense. RJ Harvey could be, could be one of the most misvalued players based on what, what his skill set is and what the role for his offense that he plays. So he could, he could very well exceed this. And I mean, let's not pretend like he just wasn't good for fantasy. Yeah. Now he did, he did a lot of what we expected him to do. The reason that we liked Harvey was the safe PPR floor of what the Sean Payton has traditionally offered to running backs. And all of a sudden, I think nobody was putting him as this great receiving back. And all he did was come out there and continue to ball out as a receiving running back. And by the way, get better at running between the tackles as the season went on. And you know, yes, maybe they had a Sean Tucker somebody mentioned in there. But that's certainly a possibility. You know, there's a couple of other options.

1:02:43And maybe they had somebody in the draft that maybe we're not done with the RJ Harvey saga necessarily. But I think Sean Payton's more than happy with RJ Harvey. It's just this is what he does, right? This is we get two backs. This is, but to go back there and it's very disingenuous because you didn't like Harvey before to keep continuing to saying that he's mid and you should sell him is, you know, I think a little crazy. RJ Harvey or Jordan Addison. Harvey. RJ Harvey or Travis ETN. I think I get credit to you at the end. RJ Harvey or Devantus Smith. It's me. I think. And what I may I say is Devantus Smith, maybe the best buy right now, just like worst case scenario. He stays where he is and the price is fine. Best case scenario. They move on and he's just got a ton of volume. You know, I got that written out of my notes. I've had that same, I've had that same thought because I was, I was going back and forth with someone who I can't even remember, but we were on Twitter X as usual.

1:03:48And someone said that someone said that, oh, JSN, there's just, there's a chasm of talent difference between JSN and Devantus Smith. And I had to remind, I had to remind him about who the fuck Devantus Smith was. Right. And it just hasn't been. So I went back and anytime he's gotten double digit targets, it's basically about 95 yards of game and like 0.75 touchdowns is the average. Right. So that's, that's not far off from what JSN was on a 17 game pace. So he's that talented. He is that good. He could be the centerpiece of an offense. It's just never played out. And now because we've, we've looked at him and he's finished as a wide receiver nine overall before. And it's been kind of quiet for the last couple of years. We forget that he's one of the most talented, most decorated wide receivers of the past decade. I don't know if you can read that, but I got written in the notes. Oh, you got that. You snuck that Pat Fryer move on.

1:04:48I was just about to say moving on moving on to the dealers. I was about to move on to the Steelers and be like, and by the way, I think Pat Fryer move also might be a really cheap buy right now. But that was, I was doing some, some rookie stuff and just started thinking about or free agent stuff rather and rookie stuff and just started thinking about Devantus Smith. And I was like, man, Pat Fryer was awesome. Very good. Alright, let's move on to the Steelers because we got to get out of here. We got to wrap this up. We're already running a little bit long here. So obviously, I'm a suit, Jay really wants me to just tell you how dumb I am for Caleb Johnson. So Jay, I'm dumb for telling you Caleb Johnson's good. I think that's just what you want. So I'm going to give it to you. But Rico Dattle signs to the Steelers definitely stinks. It hurts. I have no reason to change my opinion on Caleb necessarily. Just McCarthy and Rico know each other a little bit and you're bringing in some comfortable ability there to know that you have security at running back. And unfortunately, nothing has really broken the way that Caleb Johnson needed it to break for him to have an impact.

1:05:53Things went wrong a whole bunch of times. Some of his fault. Some of it, everything out of his control, right? And you know, hey, just look at guys like a Rico Dattle and look at guys like that of if you want to try to have some Caleb sensibility for later. There is still a probability that it happens. It just I think this is what you want and that I was wrong for sure on Caleb Johnson. I was wrong. Well, pretty much my worst call since a keen butler. So, but hey, by the way, you're welcome for, I don't know, Travis Hunter. You're welcome for Woody Marks. You're welcome for a Ronde Gatson. You're welcome for a whole bunch of other things throughout, you know, the whole process last year. Chase Brown, Kyron Williams, Bucky Irving, all the, you know, you're welcome. But hey, I will gladly, I'll take my L's. I don't mind it. I was a little hopeful, but hey, I was wrong as hell.

1:06:53And here we are. So, y'all boys take this away. Okay, you're calling a timeout. It's important. It's important to note that this is not just, this is not just us looking at a spreadsheet and saying, well, he had a high missed tackles forced and breakaway run rate. And we, we liked, we really, really liked what we saw on film. The team liked him enough to make him a day to pick. Now, all of that went to hell in the hand basket, but also this is an organization that has a history of just completely sheltering running backs for a year or a shardman in home. And then coming out and earning a role. Now, it's much less likely that that happens now that Rico Dattles. Jericho Dattles has a familiarity with Mike McCarthy. I believe Jellin Warren is on the last year of that two-year extension that he signed. So, again, it's delayed, not denied. I, you can't convince me that Caleb Johnson just sucks at football. I can't, I will not be convinced. It's like people trying to convince me to trail and bark sucks at football.

1:07:53Like, we don't have enough information to say sucks. Like, he does cool stuff when he's out there. It just hadn't happened yet. So, unrelated, but related, like I said, the, the point being that Rico Dattles kind of ruins everything for everybody. Now, I was really, I, I had Jellin Warren as a sneaky buy just because nobody's going to talk about it. And Mike McCarthy offenses are typically good for, for fantasy goodness from a running back perspective. But now we're splitting that down the middle at best with Rico Dattles, who runs like a man possessed for stretches of time. And looks like the best. It looks like prime 20 door set or, you know, pick your favorite running back that's all time great. So, I don't know what to do with this backflow right now. I got to sit in here in the dark and pray about it for a long time. And then hopefully the answer comes down to me in a dark district treat like Aaron Rodgers speaking to which is Aaron Rodgers coming back. Because that would be maybe the best possible outcome to maximize all this for one more year. Yeah, I mean, we're looking at Rico Dattles at 192 Super Flex head premium crowdsource rankings right now.

1:08:57People have been down on them a little bit. You can see he's down 20 spots. You know, this is a guy who just when he gets his opportunities, he does this thing, right? So, he's he's been very good to me over the last couple of years for the price that you had to pay for him. So, being familiar with McCarthy, we'll kind of see Jeremiah any closing thoughts here on Pittsburgh, Rico, all that kind of stuff. Because we got to we got to wrap this up. And we're live, we'll be live Wednesday. And me and she ever going to record some more stuff on rookies on Tuesday. So, plenty of talk coming up. Join us Wednesday, 830 PM Eastern. And we'll be on Patreon right after this. Sorry, Jeremiah. Go ahead. Look, back to back 1000 yard seasons for Benson and the sorry, Rico Dattle. And for Dattle, the beauty is you're going to get an opportunity because I'm convinced he got squeezed in Carolina. There was something that was just kind of funny down the stretch where it just did not continue with the usage. It whether it be the hot hands, what have you to be Hubbard having more favorability.

1:10:00Maybe Dattle was, hey, Adam, hey, I want the damn rock. And I think we're going to get a little bit more of a match where I'm excited. It's that pairing with McCarthy to where they know each other. And we're going to get more of that where I really hope that Dattle does not get squeezed like he did in Carolina. I'm convinced he did. And there were a lot of numbers left on the field in fancy points left on the field for a Rico Dattle. So, I'm very excited about him that I go into Pittsburgh. Rico Dattle or Jacobi Lane? Dattle. Jacobi Lane. So, rookie two, two, four, two, six, ish, super flex time and premium. You're going, you're going Rico on that Jeremiah? Yeah. Okay. You like Lane on that? I'll take yes. We're going to skip that one because we all have never brand, never brand, never brand. No, not if there's a fire dude. No. Rico Dattle or Cortland Sutton?

1:11:02It's quarter seven. Yeah, Sutton. He's the one Elijah Arroyo or Rico Dattle right now we got a lean Rico, right? Rico. Yeah. Opportunity. Lean in that way. Late second and 27. Rico. Tony Pollard or Rico? Rico. Especially Jeremiah Love is. I like TP, but I'll roll with you. It's setty till or Rico Dattle. Rico. Rico or Tesla? We're going to go Rico. So obviously Rico's down. Rico Dattle or Mac Jones? Mac Jones. Mac Jones, baby. Give me that utility. It's only going to get better. Jones. Who? All right. Well, I appreciate everybody for joining us. Anything else you guys want to quickly get in before we wrap up tonight? No. Appreciate you guys for for for for joining us. Appreciate you guys for joining us.

1:12:02We had a different show planned for tonight. That wasn't going to be live, but we figured, hey, this thing was moving fast. We wanted to get on here. Talk about it. Please join us again on Wednesday. We're going to be live 830. We're going to be talking plenty more about this. Answering questions from you guys. And we'll get to plenty more things that you guys have mentioned in these comments. Just didn't have enough time tonight. Again, a pre-recorded show on Tuesday that'll pry drop Wednesday morning for me and Chev. And then we're going over to Patreon right now going to talk more about these guys. So appreciate you guys. We'll catch you next time. Peace. Hey, I want to thank you for being part of this broadcast. If you have any thoughts on it, leave a comment. If you enjoyed it, make sure you leave a like. And if you want to see more shows on the Player Profiler channel, subscribe to it. That's how we know you want more.