The Extra Point: A.J. Brown Injury Fallout + Week 1 Start/Sit Questions (Ep. 2183)

0:00This is an I Heart Podcast. Guaranteed Human. Hi, this is Kylie Breakman, Angel Jaretana. Jeremy Cole, Hank Paschek McDonald. And we're the hosts of the artist on artist on artist podcast. The improvised character comedy podcast, where each week a new panel of artists discuss their craft. Join us for a panel of Eurovision participants. And we do a little Halloween sometimes. Does the Pope dress up? He winks on Halloween. He gets right up next to the microphone. I hear you get the bubbles here. The eyelashes hate each other. You never seen Italy so quiet as when the Pope gets up to wink on Halloween. Listen to artists on artist on artist on artist every Thursday on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What's up friends and welcome into the extra point right here on Fantasy Pros. I am Chris Welsh and of course, the Unda Deica. Andrew Erickson is here with me. This is our show. No, this is your show. The podcast of the people for the people and with the people because we are live on the Fantasy Pros discord right now,

1:05where we've got an audience in here. They have a very, very politely have their hands raised and we are going to bring them up just like it's class schools in session, where you guys are going to get to come up, ask us questions and you dictate the pace and the vibe of the show. That is it. That's, I mean, we sometimes have a little thing or two plan, but we are going to be answering your questions, your start and sit everything, but your Thursday night football questions. I'll tell this, we talked a little bit before the podcast. We are going to be tough on crime this year. Erickson plays the nice guy at he's good cop. I'm bad cop, but even Erickson's gone to bad cop. If we hear Thursday night football mentions, it's an immediate boot off. Not like you're going to kick out of the room. We're just going to lock your question out. So no Thursday night questions. If you're listening to this podcast, you should hear a clean, it should be clean living for you for no Thursday night. And if you do, you're going to hear someone get booted off.

2:05So we're going to be tough on crime this year. Mr. Andrew Erickson, the big question, how are you doing after one of the most abysmal performances of a second half? You could have had really by your quarterback. There's obviously a big piece of news out there. AJ Brown could have a really, really bad injury. We don't know at this moment. It could be two weeks to a season apparently on recording. And Drake was absolutely horrific with his third pick. But what it was your initial takes on the AJ Brown situation with what is being deemed as maybe a high ankle sprain. I think I've seen as much as like four weeks, but once the MRI is out there, there could be something a lot worse that could be floating that maybe there's something nefarious. But what's your take on AJ Brown? Obviously, super disappointing because he was a player of that. I was very high on entering the season, acknowledged that he wasn't older receivers. So there was always a chance that you know more likely to stain an injury. But that was more related to his degenerative knee injury and not necessarily his ankle injury.

3:05I mean, the injury itself can have it anybody, right? Just like it's rolled up on a pass break up rolls his ankle. And it's the dreaded high ankle sprain, which besides the PCL injuries got to be one of those worst in the world. And one of those worst injuries in terms of yeah, maybe he's not out for the season. But when he does come back, is he back to himself, right? These things tend to linger with these skill position players and someone like AJ Brown, where it doesn't work in a saver is that he is older. So the recovery you're expecting to not be as speedy as a 23 year old, 24 year old spring chicken wide receiver. That's really unfortunate. It hurts for Drake May as well because you obviously saw the offensive performance when AJ Brown was playing. And then when he was off the field and they were they were forced to put Romeo dobs in the game. I mean Romeo dobs what it just does had a gregious drop. I mean, Mac Holland was playing ahead of him to start the game. I don't feel listening to the whole thing is really interesting. They're saying how essentially and this is a testament to the Seahawks defense.

4:09The CX had bottlenecked them into having one player per defensive scheme. It was like Romeo dobs was the man guy because he you know good separator on man. And Mac Collins was the guy that was the zone breaker. And I think they even called it. I think it was was a concert. Even called he was like, well, I think up atop because I got a zone read here. It's going to go to Mac Collins on that slant route. Bam, it's exactly what it was. They became the point of this is they became this is a testament again to that defense. They became one dimensional, but even more one dimensional because to your point Romeo dobs. Oh Mac Collins, all they could do was essentially have like one read per defensive scheme. And it made them and you know Drake may was forced into some really bad decisions. My predictions and Drake may look really bad. But yeah, it was a rough go. But we do have to acknowledge that like this is one of the toughest defenses out there. Yes. Yes. I think that's good context to provide in the fact that the game plan clearly was to get Aj brown involved. He was getting more involved in the first half of the game. And then when he got knocked out, they had to kind of change on the fly.

5:12The biggest issue last year was the patrons didn't have guys like a beat man coverage. And in this game, they lost the guy that could beat man coverage and Romeo dobs did not show up. And when he had his opportunities, he fell flat. So I don't think that this means that he is done and cooked. I said it tongue in cheek last night that he's an overpaid bust already him in Rashid Shahid. Get all this money and free agency combining for one cash for four yards on six targets. With one interception and one massive drop for Romeo dobs obviously. And that was one of the. That predicted one of the interceptions for Drake May. So the first one I can live with like a third up to it's a 50 50 ball of dogs in come down with it. Whatever. Okay. The second one was at right after the dobs drop where Drake was definitely trying to force a little bit. Okay, I got to make a play because we missed out on this big third down conversion or this big play that dobs dropped. And then that gets picked off and then the last one was obviously the worst. The any sessions were compounding and getting worse and worse. He was continually making bad decision and then he's compounding it with another bad decision like continuously digging a hole that ended up burying the Patriots obviously at the end of the game.

6:19So I thought that throw was so bad. I thought that he was trying to throw it away. It was. He was trying to did you hear he was trying to throw it away. Yeah. And he just threw it right to the it was so bad. He couldn't throw the ball out of the a through it right into their hands. So it was it was pretty egregious. It was a given the optics of the matchup the fact that the Patriots I think at one point I checked on NFL pro. They were 82% likely to win this game. And when you draw a backup quarterback five snaps into the game and you find a way to lose despite having a lead in the second half. You have three turnovers in the fourth quarter. That's going to absolutely kill you. So I loved your love by the way. Obviously a really big disappointing night for the Patriots and man I was kicking myself for not having any action. And on that Eli Rarrow didn't first. Well, I'm surprised he didn't. I'm surprised he didn't. All right. I know because that's such a that's such a bet that I definitely would like to be you know the most you bet of all time. I know. I know. And then the fact that I missed out. I mean, I was.

7:1915 plus to one tied in first touchdown. I know. What are you talking about? You were built for this quick two quick sides. So sad. I think it's probably one of the greatest times to go and buy me right now in fantasy and whatever capacity like it's a horrific run. There are people of friends that I have that like were worried about me and the schedule and that I would go and try to acquire him on the cheap. The second area is is what is the beneficiary with AJ Brown out? Is it truly going to be Romeo dobs? He looks so bad. Could it be a tomorrow. Douglas is it just the non-skill is it just like the are the non wide receivers is it only going to be 100 Henry and Remundry Stephenson? Like if there's one person that takes the biggest benefit you in theory you want to say Romeo dobs. But is it truly truly going to be dobs? Yeah. This one is tough because I think you asked me this a week away a week ago. Let's say AJ Brown gets hurt in practice and dobs automatically becomes the next guy in line. But and this goes back to that episode that we lost got got nuked when I went to training camp for the Patriots.

8:23The 42 minute watching the play of Patriots talking up watching them play Mac Holland stood out to me a lot in that practice. And he just the way that he carried himself the way that he was making plays down the field. And the fact that he was playing ahead of Romeo dobs in this game. There was only until AJ Brown went down that they started using dobs more so maybe we just had this death chart incorrect. And Mac Collins has actually been ahead of Romeo dobs and in this game was very apparent who Drake man was going to in clutch moments. It was Mac Collins. So I think that in the short term I think Mac Collins is based on the chemistry and report that he already has with Drake man. I think that he's going to continue to see a lot of volume in this Patriots passing attack. So he's actually the one that I think I would probably grab it to to more not trying to say that I would bury Romeo dobs. But I mean after this performance is really hard to have a lot of confidence going in to get him off of waivers with a massive bid. I think he that is definitely worth holding on to kind of see if things. Change for the Patriots.

9:24I know they do have a tough schedule coming but. I would say for right now Mac Collins is probably the guy that was competent. And Mario Douglas should also see a bunch of volume although last night it was really like empty volume. I think that he had five catches for 20 yards. Most of the arts it was mostly. They got a Steelers defense next week to be interested. I don't know. I think like zone schemes Mac definitely can thrive. I think it's more of a DFS option. I still am with Romeo dobs for a couple of weeks. I think I think really pop is probably the one that you could actually go pick up. If you could pick up dobs I would go do it just because I don't think this is done. And I think they're going to. They're going to scheme this differently and get him you know to be able to thrive a little bit more. But I think pop is a guy that is going to have some trust. But also it's a it's a slight uptick for Hunter Henry and obviously from under Stevenson. You know with plenty of touches there. So there you go a little bit of a Wednesday night break down and we probably wouldn't usually. I mean there's not going to be any other Wednesdays but we usually wouldn't talk about it. But there are a couple big key points there. A major wide receiver going down which looks like it could be at minimum for two to four weeks.

10:27And then you know one of the top three quarterbacks just struggling beyond belief. So a lot to talk about. I would not anticipate having a year brown for at least a month. I think that they would probably just put them on the short term and you reserve knock them out for four weeks. Because you don't have to come back too quickly because then he. That's how you just get re injured with a high ankle sprain. You know who's you know who's. I wish K. Shabbooty to still though your boy your boy Brandon I you. Your Brennan boy Brennan. He's just sitting around just like staring at the wall walking in circles. He's he's the Patriots did want him at one point and he said pound second. Yeah have him you guys can have him. All right. If you guys want to join the fun and never you know get lost episode we've been joking about this on another show that. We did have one episode of this show you guys probably know that was the lost episode because I was messing with recordings trying to sound better and I made it sound worse. You never want to miss any of the action go to Fandistbrows.com slash chat where you can join our discord.

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12:31Hopefully this week short and simple just looking some advice on doubt or March on Lloyd in a PPR. And then a second question is would you drop K. Sean booty or Jacobi Myers or or both for Terrence Ferguson and Jonah Coleman as stashes? Okay. Let's work our way backwards. Terrence Ferguson and already played. Oh, yeah. Oh, I wasn't even registering that good call. Let's focus on man. First one up in the season. I put you to it. Jonah Coleman. Do you want to stash Jonah Coleman? Yes. Yes. I want to stash. I have to see her death. Then I'm dropping both receivers. What was the other guy? It was Jonah Coleman Myers. Oh, oh, yeah. No, I know you could drop Jacobi Myers. I have no problem dropping Jacobi Myers to pick up Jonah Coleman. But as a stash, what was the other guy he could pick up? Do you remember it was Jonah Coleman? Oh, and booty. I'm not interested in booty. Booty's the guy he has. He has booty Myers. Oh, okay. I drop one for Jonah Coleman. Jonah Coleman. Jonah Coleman. I would drop both of those guys. I would drop booty before Myers.

13:39So would you agree? Yeah. Yep. All right. Take a manly. Ness. Premium member on the fantasy pros discord. What's up, men? Hey, guys, can you hear me? Yes, we can hear you. Awesome. So in my matchup this week, I'm playing against JSN and I have rocked powers who I just saw as hurt. So I'm trying to sort of react without overreacting in my flex spot right now. I've got David Montgomery, but this is a smaller PPR league size and good options on my bench. I have Luther Burton, Christian Watson and Parker Washington who are 24 to 2526 and ECR. But I was noticing that both of you have Parker Washington rated higher than the other two receivers this week. I'm just curious. Is it maybe worth switching away from Montgomery to one of those receivers as sort of an upside play? And if so, would you say that's Parker washing. Did you say it's full PPR or half PPR? Full PPR. Yes. Yes. I would definitely go with Parker Washington. Me and Andrew Erickson are the of the ilk that Parker Washington will be littered with targets. 5, 6, 7 plus catches. Yes, Parker Washington for the win there. What do you think, Erickson?

14:54Co-sign agreed. Give me more Washington beaded. I want to hear you talk and give me 30 seconds of Parker Washington. Pretend he's a patriot. Pretend he's a patriot for men. I wish he was on the Patriots anyway. Oh my God, Brian Thomas Jr. Come on down to the New England Patriots. We need some wire receivers. No, there would be a good trade. I would say the Browns defensively. Deepro was talking about this in one of his tweets and I think you talked about it in the prime as well. They have really strong perimeter cornerbacks and that makes sense based on the personnel. They're much weaker in the slot. So I think that's exactly how the job bars will look to attack them when they go through the air. It will be Parker Washington and apparently the rumors and rumblings have been trying to get this contract done. But if they don't do it until after week one, they might have to pay more money because apparently he's set to smash this week. So Parker Washington locked the loaded. And to see why you're see over two definitely going to be a top 24 guy. Brian Thomas Jr. is going to be running a lot of the go routes, opening things up underneath and you could be my eyes is still dealing with some wrist thumb injury thing. He's still expected to play, but you could imagine that he may be not have a massive plan for the offensive passing game and we go on.

16:05That was perfect. That's exactly 30 seconds. I think you might have hit like exactly 30 seconds. Someone can time that that was beautiful. But yeah, it is it's mainly about the perimeter corners and like, it's going to be looking at Parker Washington all day, 10 plus targets. I forgot with Cornwall. We forgot the first question, which was Rico Doudel. I'm forgetting now who the other running back was, but I'm I may Rico Doudel Stan Marshall. Marshall Marshall. Oh, you also go Rico Doudel. But I'm a yeah, I'm a Rico Doudel Stan. Game script is perfect for someone like Rico Doudel. Marsha on Lloyd is still very much an unknown commodity. This Packers Vikings game is really intriguing in terms of all the moving pieces you have a new quarterback for the Minnesota Vikings Minnesota. Also added some defensive players in the draft. So we'll see how they do up front Packers are dealing with a lot of injuries on their offensive line. There are three of their stars who are banged up with knee injuries, which is never a good sign. They're playing on the road. So Lloyd has a how we like to put it as a wide range of outcomes, whereas Rico, which seems like Mike McCarthy don't overthink this. You're playing a Falcons offense led by a bad quarterback there playing on the road. You're at home. Just feed Rico Doudel. Get the win and Uncle Rico.

17:18I kind of think what you saw to the sea hawks is what you'll see out of the Packers in that was a Gideron price had 10 carries and then it was a man and Halani had eight and then a man of Wilson had two. I think you might see that between Marsha on Lloyd Chris Brooks and Caleb Johnson. I think I just don't know if Marsha on Lloyd's going to push over that like 12 touch markers. So I would definitively go I think that was in a great spot. And by the way, there was ever a marker for our age gap. It's perfectly aligned to your memory. Like how old like these guys are telling me something and I'm immediately like, huh? Well, and you just have it. It just in prints in your brain. Your memory is beautiful. It's a beautiful. It's a young brain there. My brain is fried and all jacked up on that mountain. Do and I just can't like I hear those. I'm like, whoa, I got one guy and then you've got all three. So it's very impressive. I'm very impressed with your memory. When it comes to fantasy stuff. Yes, my memory is like an elephant. I never forget. However, when it comes to things that my wife says, oh, man, I am very, very bad. There's only so much space. Yeah, there's so many so much space for us for memory. So some things are going to have to go. So sorry, the grocery list is going to have to go for whose RB 37 for this week. All right.

18:32Catalyst. What's up, catalyst. Hey, guys, thanks for having me on the show. And just so you know, I updated my dynasty team name to the Mendoza effect based on last week's show. Love it. That's great. It can be started sooner rather than later. Yeah. Yeah. So I wanted to follow up with you guys based on like trying to move scat. I haven't been very successful from upgrading at the RB two position. I've been trying to target Kyron and Javante. I've had no success. And everyone else is just holding onto them or just and just being very, very seated with the running backs that they would have to upgrade. So right now, I'm just currently trying to ride scat train. Hopefully, do you think that his market will increase in the next four weeks based on the schedule? Let me ask you a side question, though. On those trades, are you going scatibou and somebody or you just trying to do one? Like, what does that look like when people are rebuffing you? Hi, this is highly breakman, Angel Jaretana, Jeremy Colhane, Patrick McDonald, and we're the hosts of the artists on artists on artists on artists podcast.

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21:42College football will hijack your weekend, ruin your sleep and break your heart. And that's why we make the Sullivan-verbal College football show. I'm Ty Hildenbrand, he's Dan Rubenstein. How's it going? Every week we preview the games that matter sort through the biggest storylines and tell you what to watch before kickoff. There's a lot to keep track of. Who's for real? Which upset is hiding in plain sight and which storyline is about to take over your group chat? And when the games are over, join us in the aftermath too. We're going to react to what happened, talk about the biggest results, of course we'll cover the playoff picture, and all the little details you might have missed while flipping between like 12 games at once. Whether you know every coach and coordinator or just want to understand why everybody is yelling, we're here to help make sense of the madness. Listen to the Solid Verbal College Football Show on the I Heart Radio app Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. So for the Javonte trade, I did get and Jay McMillan for Javonte. I got replied with

22:51Hertz Javonte for my quarterback May and Scat. Okay. Yeah, I mean, I don't think Scat, I don't think McMillan moves the needle like what, whatsoever. So I think that's kind of low. With or any others or because I guess my point is is like yeah, the Scat Abu run doesn't look great right now. And I mean, I guess to your point, your question is like, do we think this is going to improve? I kind of don't. But at the same time, like Harbock approve us wrong. Like, you know, I was going back through and looking funny enough, getting into bets for like Sunday night and we've got the show I'm betting pros and trying to prep. You look and you just see like how involved he was in the passing game and like the carries really picked up, you know, right before the injury and he was used dominantly. There's a little bit of an unknown with Harbock. Like they brought in Najee. Najee can kind of play that pounding role. They still have Tyrone Tracy. Like, is it going to be a committee? Is it going to be full? If it's full commitment, I'm not sure this is the game for it. But I think there's an opportunity for him to improve. I just am kind of I'm a little out on Kim Scat Abu and I'm a little bit worried that

23:57the touches are going to lower. So he's going to have to be optimized in a way for him to improve. Like he's going to have to take advantage of, you know, 14, 15 touches. There's going to have to be a lot of touchdowns. They don't have Najee, Vulturing those type of things for him to improve his value. So my main point to that is is like, I think you're in a space where you need to either you would need to improve your offers to get a running backup. Instead of hoping and thinking that Kim Scat Abu is going to improve where someone's going to be like, Oh, I do want Kim Scat Abu for Javante. But what do you think about that, Ericsson? Scat Abu's tough, I think right now because everyone kind of is reading the tea leaves about the concerns with this offense overall that it could be a committee. How excited are we that Matt Nagy is calling plays on the offense? Not really excited. So Scat Abu, especially with the injury that he's coming off of the fact that he even talked about openly about retiring after having a season long injury. That is something that's always very concerning, especially when you're

24:58talking about in a dynasty context. So I get you can up the ante with your offer, but eventually you're going to reach a point where you might just have to hold Scat Abu and be like, his production is going to outweigh whatever I could get in a trade because it feels like you're going to be selling low on Scat Abu. And I think that the mostly negative outlook for him for his dynasty is going to keep his price relatively low in value. And you're not actually going to get what you would earn or what you should get for his actual on field production, which I think RB2 is fine. And I get you're trying to upgrade your RB2, but I think the more aggressive you're trying to beat get off of a player, the more likely you are to make a bad trade. So that's when I've always found where you run into a lot of issues where I just got to get rid of this guy and then you sell him for pennies on the dollar and you immediately regret it because you should have just said, hey, I'll just bank the production will ride off into the sunset with Scat Abu on my roster. And we'll move on with our day. So it seems like you agree with me. I just couldn't agree with you more. I mean, the thing I,

26:01Dynastie, and I think a cool thing if you've ever listened to this, not that this is a dynasty podcast, but Eric's and I have like different philosophies, especially when it comes to like some player valuations and dynasty and stuff and sometimes approach. But like, man, we over the years, whenever someone comes in and they're like, here's the guy. I want to trade him. These are the offers and we're like, well, these offer suck. And it's like, well, I want to trade him and this is all the league will give up. We'll screw the league. I do, I get so sick of that where people are like, well, I want to trade this guy. And this is the only value. If the value doesn't match up, then then hold the guy. Hold like if I hate seeing those inferior trades and then people are like, well, I just got to trade him. And this is only the mind. And I'm, this is not happening in this situation. But man, if I heard it a billion times in a billion different sports at baseball and football. And I just am so hard headed about that. And sometimes it works great. Sometimes it blows up in your face. But when you have an asset like, like, camscat, it was a young running back.

27:02We've seen what the top looks like. I'm willing to take that risk. I'm willing to take that risk. If he fails more, the value goes down, then just being like, well, this is just what the people will pay right now. And it's like, well, then just try to play it out. I hate making, I hate punching down trades. I hate it so much in dynasty because people want to dictate that so much. Oh, well, blah, blah, blah, blah. This is the league. I just, I feel very adamant about that. And it's, I've just heard it a billion. It's always, it's actually usually always to older players, by the way. It's usually not to like a 23 year old running back. It's usually to like a 29 year old running back. And it's like, well, you know, he's like, I got a couple more years and people are da da da da da. And just I, I, I, I so stand by what you said of like, just don't compromise in trades just because like two people in the league are only willing to give you this right now. I think too, if you want to approach it from a different perspective. And this is something that I have been trying to talk more about on the trade show that I do with Worm every single week. It's less about the players and more about the managers. So when we see games played out, we see

28:06guys go down with injuries. Everyone in a super flex format that has Sam Dino now has a quarterback issue. Okay, they have a need for something. Can you fulfill that need with something on your roster? Can you make a trade? Because what facilitates deals getting done when one manager needs something and another manager is trying to upgrade something. So find the Sam Dino manager and a super flex format reach out to them. Hey, do you want to make a deal with a quarterback or a skill position player? Same thing with the AJ Brown manager. They're hurting a wide receiver now. What if they have a surplus of running backs? So okay, maybe you can't move off scataboo, but you can get a different running back on your roster along the scataboo. And then you can trade off one of your receivers. So that's something to also think about. It's not always about the players. It's about identifying the certain managers to actually get deals done. Boom. Boom. And boom. Bucks man. What's up, Bucks man? What up, dude? I just got a couple start sick questions here. Uh, first one in a half PPR league. Would you start Jonathan Brooks or Joy and Mason at flex?

29:10Man, I guess I'm going to say Jonathan. Would you say half PPR, right? That's the brain thing. I think if if the conversation is positive around, uh, Brooks, I'm going to do that because I think he can be an asset and and like, you know, I mean, it might be better and full, but in half PPR still. But if we're getting like negative conversation around it and like, oh, you know, he's going to be limited and that heavy, like, come Saturday, I have no problem going to Jordan Mason. What do you think, Erickson? Yeah, I think you got to keep tabs on the Brooks injury status. Seems like he's going to play. However, seems like Chuba Hoverts also going to play a role. It's a good matchup against the Chicago Bears. I don't fear the matchup though for Jordan Mason. I guess for me, Wilson, I'm looking right now in ECR. Of course, these guys are ranked back to back RB 32 from Mason. Really? And Jonathan Brooks is ECR RB 35. So Brooks is actually behind Mason. Wow. I do think that the format actually might lean Mason. If you had to bet on who his

30:15core touchdown, you would probably bet Mason. I would bet Mason. Yeah. Yeah. So in a half PPR, where I think Brooks is more likely to see receptions out of the backfield and Chuba Hoverts is also healthy. I think I'm actually leaning Mason here and this is ranking. I probably have to update in real time. I'm not so afraid of the Packers defensive front. The Minnesota Vikings offensive line is healthy. They're playing at home. I think they could run the ball a decent amount, a decent amount with Kyler Murray under center, got the mobility. So I think I'm actually going to lean towards Mason. Yeah. That's not helpful. That's because I know he's 100% healthy too. No, it's a good point. It's just also assuming the Panthers are going to be playing from behind the whole time. And Jonathan Brooks has really looked good in the passing game as far as like, you know, preseason has gone in practices. And I think they've talked about wanting to use him a lot more. So start to wonder if he's a, you know, even if it's a seven to 10 carry, but he's a five or six target guy. Like there's a lot of big explosiveness there. But Jordan Mason is a lot safer. So play it that way. What was number two, Bucksman? Yeah. So the last question in the league, I have

31:21AJ Brown starting in. I got to make up some points here. So I was wondering in the flesh on the standard league. Would you go team at or a Bucky Irving in the flesh? Ooh, team a standard league two team back or Bucky Irving. Oh, man, I like both matchups. I feel like I'm going to say Tederoa Mcmillan there. Yeah. I think you got to go team back for the pure upside against the Chicago Bears defense. We've talked about all off season is absolutely terrible. The Bengals defense was terrible last year. Still remains to be seen if they've gotten better, but they did try to get better this off season. And I think it does matter that Dexter Lawrence is on the defensive line now versus he was not there at all last year. So you can't copy and paste how bad the Bengals were against running backs last year because they added a pretty substantial piece to the interior of their defensive lines. So I don't think it's as good of a matchup. Again, still think Bucky's a

32:21great play, especially with Sean Tucker, probably not going to play in this game. So he also has a lot of touchdown equity in a game with a high total. However, we have also seen Bengals games in the past in week one, be terrible because this offense just comes out and these games are not fun. So I would go with T-neck. Well, we did not consider is that that was Bucksman. And we didn't give that consideration though. This is we're going to tell a Bucks fan to sit Bucky Irving. That's tough to do. I'm just really worried. All of our hearts are going to break when it's like Bucky first, second, and then Kenny Gainwell third, fourth and back to Bucky fifth, six. This is on the same drive. And then we're at the goal line and Sean Tucker comes in and just Andrew, he might not even play. Well, that's a thing. Well, I mean, that actually would lean me a little bit more Bucky because I think Bucky is primed to be that goal line back here. I think it's really close in a standard league. I lean to Teteromic millen on the touchdown side, but I think it's kind of a

33:22one to punch, especially if Tucker's out, but I just feel like my heart would be broken. And we're not considering his Bucksman. He's gonna be mad at us. So we have Teteromic millen in Bucksman. So hopefully happy either way then. If it walks out, Bucky has a good game and a team act has a good game. I mean, he drafted a Panther and he's a Bucksman. Just saying. That's a good point. It's actually a really good point. There you go. Bucksman. All right. Before we continue on, my playbook, you want to double your chances of winning your fantasy league this year? Active fantasy pros users are twice as likely to win. Can you believe that? It's science. Synchro league for free and get fast personalized advice for your lineup, waivers, trades, and more all powered by 100 plus experts. If Erickson and I are not here, we don't mean boy, we have a lot of great content for you, but there are times when you're late at night, you're sitting around and you're just like, hmm, Swish Erickson was here to hang out and tell me what I can do here. Well, guess what? You can use my playbook to have access to Erickson and more and you can customize it. You can get started today at fantasy pros.com slash my playbook,

34:25fantasy pros.com slash my playbook have the ultimate tool to win your league this year. Who else is we got? We got Nick. What's up, Nick? Hey guys, I have a question for you. I ended up having both Loveland and burden on the same team. I never had a predicament about starting multiple people from the same team before. I do have Parker Washington also and Chris Godwin in a good matchup and QJ. So viable options. I'm assuming Parker Washington's probably the play. It's half PPR for my wide receiver two slot, but just curious how you would kind of game plan that. And I guess also just like rest of season having two high draft spots from the same team. Hopefully they ball out, but yeah, just the start set this week just like overall. So wait, wait, wait, you gave us a lot of wide receivers. How many wide receivers slash like FET flexes can start? This is simply for my wide receiver two spots. So it's just one out of the

35:26forgot. Oh, so it's Lutherburden, Parker Washington, Quentin Johnston and Chris Godwin, I got them all. My brain's working. Ginkgo, Ginkgo, Bloba. Parker Washington. Yeah, Parker Washington for the play, but what he and then okay, we've already kind of expanded as far as where we are in Parker Washington. I have them above all those guys. What do you think about that idea? I don't get really to hung up on having multiple pass catchers on the same team, but is there there anything that I don't know. I mean, I guess I feel like he's alluding to like should he be making a move to like consolidate the roster because he's got both Bears players. No, because I think the Bears are going to be a very concentrated passing tree between three guys where Coli Freeman is the number four wide receiver, but he's really more there for special teams. And if one of these guys goes down, we've already seen burden deal with injury, Roman Noons, a deal with an injury. We don't even know if he's going to play 100%. So I think it's fine. If the offense is good, then you can feature multiple fantasy assets. So I wouldn't worry about that. And I think this is a trap that you can get

36:30caught into where I got to sell one of my Bears players because I already have another Bears player. I feel like that's bad process, especially if you think that the Bears are going to be a good offense. If you think they're going to be a bad offense, then it's different. But I think most of us would agree that the Bears based on their defense, based on Ben Johnson, Colin Schatz, Caleb Williams in year three, we're expecting fireworks from a very concentrated passing attack. Yeah, I'm down with that. Sorry, I was actually reading. I don't know if you saw this not to get distracted here, but you see that they had the legal filings posted today of Josh Jacobs in that situation, kind of keeping in division, by the way, as in they disclose the details of his crimes. They disclosed what he has done. Well, what has come to an agreement and he's pleading no contest to Mr. Meener Chargers, a battery and criminal damage to property. The NFL said there is quote, no timetable as when he could be disciplined. League of officials said we've been closely

37:31monitoring all developments in the matter, which remain under review under the personal conduct policy. There's no change on the status as he remains on the commissioner's list. But there's a court filing of information that that shows that, you know, he it's a no contest to a misdemeanor. So there's a misdemeanor. There's a whole big thing here that says he agreed to enter a plea. There's a what there's a fine. It's like a thousand dollar fine. That's attached to it. Very weird terminology that's put to it. And the court is suspending the proceeding on criminal damage to property count for 12 months at which time it will be dismissed upon completion of the terms of his agreement. So that's a little, I don't know, legally. So it gets thrown into there for that. I guess it had come down a tiny bit ago. I didn't see it, but I just saw that. But very interesting because the court date was today's recording this and the NFL making no statement on a change. Because I think a lot of assume that, you know, with the court filing moving up, the next step, regardless of whatever results the NFL decides to take would be taking him off the exemplest, which that would

38:34then proceed him to be able to, you know, I guess play. He wouldn't be playing this weekend or any circumstance. But no, the necessarily news, I guess out there, but just a little bit more clarity on the pathway of what's going on. Because the next step is either the NFL takes him off the exemplest and then decides at a later effect of what the suspension is going to be or they refuse to take him off the exemplest with whatever suspension and those coincide each other. And it sounds like they might coincide each other. Do you have a prediction for what his suspension could look like? Do you have a lean? I think, oh, man, I don't know. I mean, I got to say the whole like, like public property thing was weird. I'm not sure I'm aware of all of that. Without the video, it's impossible to tell because it's like, that's the thing that's the smoking gun, right? Yeah. I mean, if that gets dropped and it's, I mean, it's bad as people have, I don't know who's seen the video. I don't know what's on the video, but everyone that knows about the video says

39:36it's absolutely horrible and it's career ending for Josh Jacob. So that's always in the back of my mind. That's worse case scenario for anyone that's, you know, invested in Josh Jacobs and fantasy football. I would say at a minimum, I think that he's going to be suspended lease for six games. I would say misting me. That's battery charge. Has to probably leaves the six games. So Nick and the chat is suggesting that the property damage is related to Jacob's throwing her phone, breaking it. And that's kind of what's the alluded to the property damage. But again, there's a lot of stuff that we don't know. And there's the video where that's the biggest question mark in terms of could it be career ending? That's the rumor that that's what that is. So I think it's going to be suspended for like, at least six games. I think minimum eight games, probably more likely. And we don't know when that will actually take place. But I would assume that because they move the court date up, we're supposed to be in November that we'll get news sooner rather later. But at this time, it seems like nothing has progressed immensely. I agree with you on that. You know, not having

40:40obviously legal knowledge of these things. I think whatever it is, it will be agreed upon beforehand. And there'll be no like him, you know, pushing against it. It will be they come to the table. Let's say with 10, they want six, they meet at eight or nine. And then they all accept it. And it comes down. And I don't know if it'll come down anytime. So when it'll come to I assume the the taking responsibility on the suspension and not fighting it would be a part of it happening soon. But just wanted to mention that because that might be on people's minds. It was on the 10th. I just saw Adam Schefter and just everybody in Rappaport. Everybody is tweeting about it. And that's as best as we all know that's out there. All right. We got some more questions in here. Let's go to Michael. Michael premium member on the fantasy pros discord. What's up, Michael? Yeah. So I'm in a 12 man PPR league. And my draft strategy was to go late with QB and Tide and so I've Kyler Murray and Juan Johnson. I was wondering what you guys think about if I would I've Kenny Gainwell and Rashad White on my bench. If I were to drop them and pick up

41:42Tyler sought or whatever his last name is and um, transfer. You mean shock? Yeah. Yeah. Sayings No, I would personally just stick with Tyler. I mean, you drafted him instead of Tyler Shock. So Yep. And Joanne I would see. Yeah. Long term Joanne's not even a question over Ferguson. Yeah. Ferguson for sure. But Ferguson is strictly a stash player. Right. We don't know what his expanded role is going to be. So you can't pick him up and think, oh, he'll immediately produce. Yeah. It's not even something to think about right now because Joanne Johnson's in like a phenomenal spot for this week one. And yeah, Tyler's I mean, I have Kyler Murray quite a bit over Tyler Shock. I've been I get yelled at every time I do a video on Kyler Murray. But it's just like the running upside is there like I like Shock and I know you know, Debrose been on all the channels and he's talked about, you know, how there was a time where he thought the ramp or the the Saints could be this like powerhouse Rams old school offensive, but they've lost pieces. They got lots of injuries are banged up. I'm just not sure I'm sold on it being a powerhouse. So it's

42:44I would clearly stick with the guys that you got ox mooks. What's up? How do I say that? Mooks. Okay, mooks. I got second time. What's up, dude? Yeah, I need you guys to tell me if I'm just being dumb need to pull the trigger on this dynasty trade or not. Okay. It'd be my Brock Purdy who's like my QB3 Devon pace Smith and a 27 first for Fernando Mendoza and Jamar Chase. Okay. So again, it's Purdy a 2020 and Devon to Smith. Purdy a 27 first in Devon to for Jamar and Mendoza. Just as a quick side, what's your level of competitiveness this year? Top three squad. Okay, and who's your backup quarterback? Well, so it's two QB dynasty. So Purdy's probably my three. I mean, I got to drink my intro or else. Yeah. So in Gina, he's a trade and get an elite player like Jamar Chase, which usually those guys more often are almost untouchable in dynasty. You just

43:46the managers says, I don't really care what you left off or I just don't trade those types of players. And the fact that you can get Jamar Chase for that type of deal. Again, you're giving up good pieces, but that's why this is a deal that's realistic. So I will always take the best player available. And if I look at my dynasty rank, it's pretty sure Jamar Chase is a number thick by fourth ranked overall player in dynasty. He's still relatively on attached to Joe Barrow. So I would yeah, I like that. I love it. And also your 27 first should be late if you're a top three team. And you didn't you didn't change anything in that trade that alters your win now except to get better. You upgraded Smith to chase. Mendoza is just your backup quarterback to your starters, which is going to be maybe two weeks of the season. And you improved your wider receiver. Of course, so that first round pick should be late hot really hard to get guy. I mean, think about this. When's the last time you've seen a guy like Jamar Chase or JS and in a dynasty get traded and it doesn't involve a top 25 30 40 play. You know what I'm saying? Like party Smith and

44:51a first to get Jamar Chase. Yeah, dude. Andy Young quarterback and Mendoza. I love that one. I love that. Bryce Sarah tops was in a little bit early. Had a question was able to make it back. What's up Bryce? I'm a bit scared of Drake London because of the whole two situation. I've got my other flex options are Jalen Warren Christian Watson. Is it still London or should I pick one of those guys over him? Still London for me. Always. It's always London. Too much volume. Yeah, I mean, even with bad quarterback play, it's just still. It's like the ball should be going to him. None. So I mean, I don't hate like options. You have good ish options. I love bottle. There's also a chance that two of us even play because like I said earlier, I think my before we started recording, the latest report we got from the athletic, not because quarterback two of a turn away will appear to suffer discomfort during individual throwing drills. Thursing and briefly went to the ground. So that means Jack Strand could potentially play, Cooper Rush could

45:54potentially play. And what do we see when these backup quarterbacks come in? They just hyper target their first read. Yep. Who is Drake London? And there's still a chance. I think, well, as you mentioned this because I was the low man on Drake London in our ranking show because I was afraid the two was going to start Joey Porter Jr. might not play. Yeah. The rumors bet you say it's not going to play because he doesn't have his contract extension. So and I guess the old playbook was don't play week one and then jump out a week too. So I'm not expecting him to play. Yeah. So I think there's just too much volume for Drake London. And we like Christian Watson. Still want to see how things kind of shake out. It's definitely more crowded in green bays, receiver room, Tucker Crafts can play you have Jayden Reed, you have Matthew Golden. It's the Vikings. So not necessarily the greatest matchup. And then Jaylen Warren, it just to me is, if you want to bank as many like you want to be safe, I guess Jaylen Warren feels safe. But I think London still has a pretty high floor with he should see 10 to 12 targets. Now if you were going to do it, it would be Waddle or Watson. I think I would think Waddle was an option. Just Watson.

46:59Oh, I thought it was. Okay. Well, it's brain just done then. I swear I thought I saw it because he typed in the question earlier. But if it just Watson, then it's not even a question. If Waddle was part of it, yeah, we had Jaylen Warren. You're right. I'm just a state. In defense of everybody, this has been a weird week. I don't think anybody thought last night was one day. Because that was weird. So long day. Come and hang out with us, fantasypro's.com slash chat Tuesday, Thursdays at 2 p.m. Eastern. Come and hang out with us. Love to have you. There's chaos. Lots of behind the scenes stuff today. So you guys can hang out with us all the time. Good luck this week. You know where to find us and all the other stuff at fantasypro's. Thanks for hanging out. Extra point. It's good. We're out. Thanks for listening to the fantasypro's fantasy football podcast. If you love the show, the best free way to support us is by leaving a positive review on Apple podcasts at fantasypro's.com slash review or on Spotify. Follow us on X, Instagram and TikTok at fantasypro's and subscribe to our YouTube channel at youtube.com slash fantasypro's.

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