
About this episode
> What happened when Danusia made a tiny list of guests she didn't want on the pod - and how Katie Hopkins (no.1 slot) became her guest;
> How the Katie Hopkins interview went and why it sat unpublished on Danusia's podcast shelf for so long;
> Moments from this interview that left Danusia agitated - including how this sharpened her need to review who gets voice;
> How Danusia 'drawing lines' on what can and cannot be said and what gets to be made public impacted her thinking;
> Why the distinction Danusia explores between freedom of speech and safety for women and marginalised people, is crucial;
> Why hearing from people with different views has nothing to do with seeking agreement - and how this matters for our children;
> How this process sparked the future of the pod.
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