The Elite Unchecked with Robert Eringer - Mysteries, Mayhem & Merlot

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1:00Oh yeah, and the company is fake. Season 2 arrives with bigger laughs, higher stakes, and the same heart that made season 1 a cultural phenomenon. Watch jury duty presents company retreat, streaming on Prime Video March 20th. The content presented in this podcast is based on real events and they contain graphic descriptions of violent sensitive topics and explicit language that may be triggering offensive or sensitive subjects to some viewers and listeners. Description is advised. The purpose of this podcast is to explore and discuss true crime cases for entertainment and educational purposes only. This podcast does not intend to glorify or sensationalize crime, but rather aims to analyze and understand the complexities of human behavior and the criminal justice system. We encourage listeners to approach this content with empathy, critical thinking, respect for the victims and their families. The Epstein story is the one the government insists is finished or doesn't need further investigation.

2:02But some of the most troubling questions were never fully investigated. Now in court documents made public in 2019, Virginia Goffrey accused former New Mexico governor, US Energy Secretary Bill Richardson of sexual misconduct tied to Jeffrey Epstein's trafficking network. Richardson denied these allegations. And then there's Zorro Ranch in New Mexico, Epstein's most mysterious property, an 8,000 acre compound in a high desert where victims say abuse took place. And yet, unlike Epstein's home in New York, Palm Beach and the notorious Caribbean island, Zorro Ranch was never thoroughly searched. Why? Well, today we're connecting the dots with someone who understands how power and intelligent networks really operate. Robert Aringer once built Monaco's first intelligence service for Prince Albert II, working with agencies like the CIA, MI6, along the way he encountered the same elite circles where Jeffrey Epstein moved. So Robert wrote the book, The Spymaster of Monte Carlo. And today he's sharing what he knows.

3:07So with that being said, it's time to start the show. Let's hit it. Hi, welcome to another episode of Mysteries Mayhem. Amber Lowe, I'm your host, Winnie Schrader.

4:07Well, tonight I wanted to get a guest on. I love the whole espionage, James Bond, Mission Impossible, all the, you know, secret operatives, that kind of stuff. And you know, like with this whole Epstein issue, there has to be some type of intelligence group that is working all this out to stay under the radar. And I figured, why not get a guest who is an expert on how these, these networks of people operate. And I got author Robert Aringer on who wrote the book, The Spymaster of Monte Carlo, he was the one who built the first intelligence service for Prince Albert II. So obviously, he knows what he's talking about. And he knows the inner workings of how these, how the, how these people stay underground and work these networks to, to obtain the goal that they want now. And the Epstein case is obviously to keep people, you know, hidden the secret society they had.

5:08I don't even know. I mean, the Epstein files, it just, it gets more shocking, the more stuff comes out. But I wanted to welcome Robert to the show. So welcome to the show, Robert. Thank you, Winnie. And thank you for having me. Yeah. So the book The Spymaster of Monte Carlo, you obviously, so you put a whole intelligence agency together for the Prince of Monaco. Did Monaco not have any type of, of agency that protected the monarchy at all or? Monaco did not have an intelligence service. It had merely a, a police department. And inside the police department were three men who ran a political units, who I ended up working with once I went to work for Albert, but that you wouldn't consider them. They were doing local intelligence, I would say, but not the kind of intelligence Albert needed and why he retained

6:09me in June of 2002 to first be his intelligence advisor and keep him informed about certain things. And then later when he ascended the throne, and that wasn't until April 2005, after his father Prince Rainier passed away, so that he, at that point, I had the green light to create the Monaco intelligence service, which was still unofficial, because we wanted, we did not want to be part of the government structure. Albert wanted me to report only to him and be outside the workings of Monaco's government. Was he, was he, did he feel kind of paranoid by the, I guess, behind the monarchy, was he afraid that people that want him at the head of throne or, I mean, did he feel no, he had no fears like that, although he, he should have, because there were things going on

7:11at the time that might have circumvented his, his ascension to the throne. But no, he was perfectly relaxed, but, but was concerned in two particular areas. One, there had been a Russian surge into the French Riviera, which includes Monaco at that time, and, and he was concerned that it would, it would attach itself to Monaco. They had mostly been along the French Riviera in, in Nice and Con, hadn't quite gotten to Monaco yet, but concerned him. He also had concerns about the kind of people who were trying to barge their way into his inner circle, his orbit. Everybody in Monaco plays a game called who can brown their nose the deepest. And everybody wants to be Prince Albert's friend. There are so many people who call themselves Prince Albert's best friend. And he's constantly fighting him off. So, when a newcomer would come along, especially from some country elsewhere, he, he felt he should know more about them. And that was his second main reason

8:16for bringing me in. Okay. Yeah, because you always think of Monaco, you always think of this kind of exotic kind of, not tropical, but just, you know, that a brilliant, it's like glamorous nightlife elegant, you know, and you always think of seeing it in spy movies. They're always playing back rack. James Bond movies, especially, yeah, features, features heavily. And of all the micro-states of Europe, none of which had, I discovered, their own intelligence service, like Monaco. They were dependent on other countries. But it's, it's where the Russians and others up to no good money laundering mostly would want to be, as opposed to, say, Lichtenstein or Endora or Luxembourg, which aren't quite as glamorous nor have the amenities and the fine weather that Monaco enjoys. Okay. Yeah, it doesn't seem like it's a bad job location to be at. I could tell you

9:23that. I enjoyed it. I've been there before. And I kept a safe house there, which is where we had all of our meetings where Albert would be briefed and where when we had visiting members of other intelligence services would meet. And it's also, I used it as a place to sleep when I was in Monaco. I actually lived in London at the time and commuted back and forth between London and Monaco. Sometimes on a weekly basis, specifically because Albert wanted me as invisible as possible. He didn't want the government to know about the existence of his intelligence advisor. And even later, his own intelligence service. Wow. So I mean, okay. So you're setting up this intelligence agency basically under the radar because he doesn't, well, what was the reason he did not want the Monaco government to know of his intelligence agency that he had protecting him? And

10:24because they wouldn't want him to have an intelligence agency. They wouldn't want him to have an intelligence advisor. They wanted him to rely only on what they told him about what was going on. And in fact, even before I entered the picture, nobody was telling him anything. He was just the hereditary prince. Even his own father, who was unwell his last few years, didn't really keep him in contact. Yet here was Albert flying to all parts of the world for stately occasions and knowing a little about the leaders of such countries that he was meeting. I was able to provide him briefings so that he knew what he was walking into from that point onward. Oh, okay. So you're kind of like his go-to person for all things, for information, for security, for now, with that being said, was he using your talents and capabilities to help him

11:24find out information within the workings of the government that they were trying to keep from him? Well, yeah, no, good question. That came later. In an area I really should never have gotten involved in because primarily I was foreign intelligence and that is who's coming from foreign countries. Where's he going that he needs to be briefed about? I got into the inner workings of Monaco's government after he ascended the throne and began vetting people who would continue to remain in government and also people who would help him run the palace. And that is when we ran into a lot of corruption and found out exactly why Albert always wanted us to be outside the government system reporting only to him because we found that they were terribly corrupt. And he wanted to do something about it, which is why I know that say the third reason he brought me in initially was to help him clean up the principality. He determined that once he became the monarch

12:28that he would introduce and he used this line at his investiture, a new ethic to Monaco. And to do that properly he needed to have the kind of information about who was rotten, who was dirty in Monaco that needed to be got rid of. Wow, that's scary to think that somebody who is, you know, I know a lot of times now it's like monarchies are just more like figureheads than anything because you know like with the British monarchy you have parliaments, you know, they pretty much control what happens, you know, so everyone thinks they're just kind of fearless but he really wanted to be involved with the workings of the government but obviously they were kind of put a fork in that. Well, he thought he did and the constitution allows him to do that. In fact Monaco is one of the last remaining absolute monarchies in the world. I don't think Albert ever understood the power

13:31that he had and instead relied on the government who unfortunately continues to this day to run circles around him. That came up later when we were doing corruption and after we got into it and discovered that Monaco is very corrupt indeed, Albert took a step back and decided well maybe it wasn't such a good idea to try to clean things up. That is why I eventually ended my work for Albert after five and a half years because it turned out in the end he didn't have the backbone to stand up to the corruption and clean it up like he said he would. So with you going through and vetting and finding all this information, especially within the corruption of the government, was there stuff that you were pretty shocked by that you came across or was it kind of the typical political corruption wheel that we see on a day-to-day basis? It reached a point it was so shocking it just became amusing. It became funny because

14:37just when you thought you'd heard it all then there was something else coming along. You have to remember Monaco is a rather intriguing place not just because of being featured in James Bond movies and being glamorous but you have nationalities from over a hundred countries who live in what is the most expensive place in the world to own real estate and you had a confidential and still do a confidential banking system that they all those who were up to no good wanting to wander their money clamor to be part of as a way of laundering money. So you had all of this intrigue going on and everybody from everywhere who had loads and loads of money that needed laundering hanging out there living there part of the year trying to become residents trying to join the princes orbit it was it was fascinating I really enjoyed the whole experience. Wow yeah I mean I mean your life itself kind of plays like a Bond movie. I mean think about it I

15:43mean it's just you know trying to find the corruption and get rid of it but you can't because people there's so it's everybody so intertwined with each other it's hard to you know upset the apple card that's amazing and it's all that you the stuff you were finding wow. Again especially with Monaco so closely knit the Monagasks who live in Monaco are outnumbered by about seven to one by everybody else who lives there in fact there are more Italians who live in Monaco than Monagasks the Monagasks themselves are very tightly knit which which was part of the problem when it came to trying to clean up the corruption because here we were reporting to Albert that some of his closest advisors his own personal lawyer and the palace accountant and various ministers running the the ministries were all very corrupt and yet these were people that Albert knew from when he was a little boy and went to school with and I think that ultimately what happened is

16:46after listening to his talk about cleaning it up and realizing that he really meant it especially when word eventually got out that he had a little his own little intelligence service that was getting to the bottom of everything you can imagine they they went to him and they said Albert don't you get it this is this is how we do things in Monaco this is this is how we make money this is our bread and butter and you're doing what you're doing you're messing with our rice bowls so please stop desist and he listened and then he drifted away from from our influence and what we were doing even though by this time I'd created liaison relationships with 20 different foreign intelligence agencies including our own CIA and the British MI6 the French DST the Italians cis me they're foreign intelligence service they they would come to Monaco at 48 hours notice to brief Prince Albert and me on any topic that he wanted to know more about and unfortunately

17:48taking the action that he did stepping away from cleaning the place up is he walked away from all of those relationships oh wow that's kind of sad to think that it was just like easier for him just to stick with the status quo than to actually make some positive changes for the country and the reason for that was not just because corruption had always been a way of life in Monaco but he Albert himself had no backbone he has no backbone he was never truly interested I discovered in the fairs of state more interested in just having affairs his his his social life his personal life always came first and it seemed like even when he was sitting in his intelligence briefings learning awesome things from very senior officials from intelligence services it looked like his mind was on whatever his date was going to be that night not taking the job seriously apparently

18:49well and yet the first indication of that was after his father passed away and Albert ascended the throne he didn't stand up and take charge he didn't I don't think he knew quite what to do even though I and a few others who were I consider the good guys around him were saying look you've got to you got to make your move now and consolidate your power and let everybody else know you're in charge instead he chose to abide by or at least his rationale was well I have to go through a six-month morning period which for him meant hanging out at the family farm in the the Alps behind Monaco on in in France and importing a sea sand in for his volleyball court he just did take his he didn't take his new role seriously he didn't know how to stand up to anybody he's a very shy man and and it explains partly his stutter that's always plagued him

19:50and he he avoids confrontation so he won't he won't call somebody in and have it out with them it just very just very laxed asical with no backbone when it came to exerting power which is position allowed for it yeah you kind of you have to have some type of backbone to to take leadership especially doing things that you not everybody likes but you're going to do it because it's the right thing to do and yeah obviously he feels short and that when it came to his leadership skills yes now he just falls into that puddle of corruption like everybody else sadly that's exactly what happened he for instance he appointed to be the head of the judiciary the justice well what the equivalent of what we call the attorney general justice minister even though we determine that that individual was very very corrupt and he was already a senior judge

20:54and he was already ahead of Monaco's red cross where he which he appeared to be stealing from and we briefed Albert we investigated it and even the the fall unit I mentioned in Monaco's police department was in on this and and we I practically pled with him not to make that appointment I told him if he did it would one day come back to hunt him and it would be it would be very bad for his legacy sure enough Albert went ahead and made him the justice minister of Monaco and about 10 years later the French media exposed that person for rampant corruption and he had to resign or be fired but he resigned first in disgrace and Albert was made to look the fool that he was forever having hired him in the first place god yeah you should listen don't you hate it when you have to say I told you so well you know you could only you know what they say you can you can bring a horse to water

22:00you can't make it drink it was our job to make sure that Albert was as well informed as he could possibly be and we did a quite amazing job on a shoe string of a budget to make him extremely well informed but finally given the information he needed to crack down on the persons in Monaco who should have been cracked down on or who shouldn't have been appointed to very very significant positions in Monaco's government he fell far short and shot himself in the foot to a point that today nobody nobody as far as I can tell take some seriously here's a shift worth noting better health care is care that meets patients where they are united health group is bringing it directly to living rooms this is a win for patients managing chronic conditions and here's the interesting thing by closing those care gaps administering in-home exams and identifying risks earlier more diseases can be prevented and patient outcomes can improve in 2025 alone united health

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25:06in any of the documents or was it just kind of associated by people they all knew no no no it almost surprises me that Albert has never been named in any any of the Epstein files his is never cupped and that surprised me because he would have been very ripe for the kind of thing Epstein was up to what was revealing to me later on of course but early on when I when I saw it was was how how Andrew formerly Prince Andrew was Albert's closest contact and friend in the British Royal family and the reason for that we all knew at the time was because of their mutual interest in women and and let's face it Andrew was known for years and years for decades by the satirical fortnightly private eye as Randy Andy that was his nickname long before Americans knew about him and Epstein he was Randy Andy to the British public Albert fits into that same

26:12paradigm of of bachelor's Albert was a bachelor at the time that I was working for him who who enjoyed let's show we say the interviewing process for princess okay so he just like to he just like to have I armed candy on when he had big events and things like that and just he would just go through women like crazy or I'd say go through women like crazy not necessarily bring them out to the various gallows of the of Monaco but yes women like crazy okay and it was did he ever like Mary I know much about Prince Albert other than that he his behavior seemed very much like Prince Andrew well former former Prince Andrew he got his title strip from and for good measure because that guy is something else so yeah you finally got married it was after I was working for him he's still married although as far as I understand it the the marriages a bit of a sham I don't know

27:15if that's true it's only what I've heard I don't really pay a lot of attention to Monaco anymore I did in fact writing this book was kind of the cathartic exercise of once and for all be done with with everything to do with Monaco but yes he did get married he does have twins a boy and a girl so he's got an heir who will succeed him one day and and it's a it's perhaps in a strange to marriage oh okay so yeah it's kind of just a marriage a name only type thing and seems to be the case but like I said I don't keep track of it so much anymore and that's more of a gossipy thing than it is the kind with the kind of substance that we were dealing with when I was working for him okay so now the people that have been surround that would surround themselves around for itself but when you were working there now did you come across anything of like like the Epstein stuff the illegal activity geared I don't even know what to call I mean a sex

28:23trafficking a human trafficking but it's I don't even know what to call what I mean it's just disgusting what yeah no no here I yeah I think I understand your question and yes in passing because of concern to me was Albert's security so for instance if you were to visit Russia one would have to assume that his hotel room would be bugged and whatever he was doing with women or men would be recorded possibly with a view to one day leveraging him into making a favorable decision their way and it alarmed me when I'd heard that Alba that a so-called friend of Albert's member of the name of Gocha Adavati not from Russia from Georgia the Republic of Georgia which used to be part of the Soviet Union but he lived in Moscow, New Putin rented out

29:26a whole brothel in Moscow for Albert and his friends to celebrate his birthday that was a 2004 2005 and that concerned me because I had been cautioning him about even just you know being on a trip in Russia and whatever he was doing some stately affair of just not doing anything in his hotel room that he'd want to come back and haunt him because it would almost 100% be taped so that that was that was fairly alarming and then there was another place that I understood he used to go to an eyes-white shut kind of place in a town by it called Stankajiano outside of Florence owned by Gocha again the the same man from Georgia secretly he didn't want to have it in his name because he was trying to escape from taxes in Russia but it was it was his and I visited the place to check it out to see what it was all about

30:31and it was all filled with erotica that remind me completely of Stanley Kubrick's movie Eyes White Shut and then lo and behold I then began hearing whispers about yeah this Albert's been here and this is where a lot of these folks come for orgies and so on and then I heard other things and this is hearsay I'm not saying it is fact but I'd heard that that many many women that there was a modeling agency in Paris that recruited women even underage women especially to go down for these porties who grows I know I don't understand how why these people in these elite positions you know people that are part of a monarchy or presidents or leaders of countries they're so into this weird underground sex trafficking stuff it's just bizarre to me that it seems like there's this

31:32commonality between being like this elite person and then doing these weird group sex things that I just don't understand and looking at Prince Albert's self because I was you know going through news articles I'm just like yeah like you said it's very much like Stanley Kubrick's Eyes White Shut movie is like the secret society that it's hidden there's like secret passwords and here's why here's why I'll explain it to you and it's not necessarily a power elite thing it's a celebrity thing and and I'll explain that in that when you can when when if you're Prince Albert and you can have sex pretty much all the time with any woman you want and they're all throwing themselves at you on the basis some of them believe that they there they may be the next princess of Monaco the threshold for excitement grows ever higher so that if you're in that category where

32:34you're an a-list Hollywood star or you're a member of a royal family like Andrew or Albert just playing ordinary sex doesn't do it anymore and then you get into other stuff and then you get into kinkier stuff and then you get into even kinkier stuff and the threshold keeps rising the more free sex is for you the easier it is to get and that would be why what you're muddling with the power elite it's more of a celebrity thing celebrities who never have a problem getting a date and having sex yeah that's just it's I find it just interesting how it's just the correlation between you know these type of people and the things that they do and you see it across the board and it like it's coming on the obscene files who's been involved I mean these top top people and it's just like oh god why are some of the stuff that it's in those documents I'm like oh my god

33:36that's so bizarre and to know that you know I mean like it's it's very common I guess I mean you see it a lot and you know you having kind of first-hand account with Prince Albert being his bright-hand man for what five years to study work for five and a half years yeah I mean I can't imagine it was frustrating for me because well I was trying my best to keep him in form but also keep him out of trouble but I think he just he didn't care he threw caution of the wind and just did what he whatever he wanted to do and interesting I see that this partly is about the Epstein files in Zoro Ranch Zoro Ranch Epstein's plate branch out into Mexico is also an eyes wide shut kind of place to my thinking and why it is not been investigated till now boggles the mind because while you had Little St. James the island in the Caribbean

34:40and his New York townhouse and his Palm Beach home rated investigated search everything taken away as far as I can tell nobody's ever nobody's touched Zoro Ranch and and now what almost seven years after he I'll say murdered because I don't believe that he was a suicide only now are they finally is New Mexico under pressure the state of New Mexico the legislature has decided that they should go in and search the grounds not least because out of the Epstein files came an email that was a tip off to the FBI that two foreign young women who were at Zoro Ranch are buried nearby now that was 2019 I don't know well one can guess as to why the FBI didn't investigate I have my own suspicions I'll tell you what they are you had a couple things going on

35:40one newsweek is reporting today that the DOJ in 2019 quashed an investigation in Zoro Ranch maybe true because the way I heard it and I believe it's true is New Mexico state police were investigating and the DOJ demanded to take over the investigation and give it to the FBI and it's and the New Mexico state police objected to that and instead of handing it over to the FBI they closed it down well why why did they close it down I can only put it down to the fact that former New Mexico governor Bill Richardson was one of those accused by Virginia Gufre the lady who accused the man who used to be a prince Andrew of having sex with her when he was seven when she was only 17 she said it was the same with Bill Richardson that she was she was Ed Zoro Ranch

36:44and Bill Richardson had sex with her when she was only 17 okay well all right Bill Richardson wasn't governor in 2019 he'd already served as two terms up but you can imagine he had an awful lot of influence in New Mexico still he denied the allegation by the way but so did Andrew and Andrew now looks like a total jerk for for all of his denials nobody believes him anymore and everybody's for a hundred percent convinced that Virginia Gufre was telling the truth so if she was telling the truth about Andrew she was probably also telling the truth about Bill Richardson why make it up why lie and he he he he he's gone now as I said he died at a kind of a young age he was only 72 or 73 at his at his summer home in Chad of Massachusetts of what has only been described ever in the media as natural causes and I'm not quite I nobody knows why beyond quote

37:49unquote natural causes Bill Richardson died I call it a slightly suspicious death and I'm not a paranoid sort of things everybody's been murdered but I find it odd I also know that he probably understood himself that his legacy was in ashes and deserved to be because because I piece things together certain dipitously but I happen to be in Santa Fe New Mexico in May of 2023 a few months before Bill Richardson died then I'm talking to the bartender the the really nice hotel they're called the Anasazi hotel probably the nicest one in Santa Fe nice bar talking to the bartender so Bill Richardson comes in here and drinks all the time I said oh cool what's he like I had no interest I'd never really was interested in the Epstein files very much before so I wasn't there as an investigative reporter just happened to be staying there drinking there and he's oh well he you know he drinks too much he comes in and he has too much to drink and he's very argumentative

38:50with other customers and I set me thinking here's the guy who knew his legacy was in tatters the dig was up the truth was going to come out eventually and although he may have done all he could to suppress it including possibly ensuring that Zoro Ranch was never investigated as it should have been and then I was just a few months later I don't know maybe it was from drinking too much but he was not a he was not a happy man in the end he knew what he'd done I think and he knew it was going to come out eventually or rather it had come out he knew that eventually down the road his denials would would fall on hollow ears yeah well and yeah I maybe he was just kind of carrying that guilt and realized man we screwed up big time you know seems to me seems to me that would be the case yeah yeah and yeah did not have that place fully investigated right away

39:51seems bizarre and it's like okay who who's gonna benefit from that this place not being investigated right away who's gonna benefit from you know things not still being left under the rug and absolutely and now it may have been the worst place of all of his places because now the witness witness testimonies are coming out from the Epstein files suggesting not only the possibility of dead bodies but but human experiments with with women being experimented on nested ties and put out and and being experimented their reproductive organs perhaps messed with that's that's what's now being suggested and in fact only it was today big news today is that the New Mexico authorities did raid Zoro Ranch today to search now when I say raid the current owner of the ranch had been waiting to hear from them he wasn't standing in the way he had just been waiting

40:56to hear from them today he heard from them they're there perhaps as we speak searching the the ranch and the grounds wow okay so a new owner owns the property I so I'm assuming he's just like been waiting for the FBI to eventually call well yeah well it was he wasn't wait nobody'd ever contacted before a few weeks ago when the new Mexico legislature said well we we're gonna investigate Zoro Ranch and then two weeks after that someone in the media asked him about it he said yeah they're welcome but I haven't heard from them so it took a while but apparently they're on the job lock lock can get hidden in six years who knows what's been cleaned up but then again who who was around to clean it up after Epstein died maybe a crew went in but but it's let's leaving it a little late I they should have been there in 2019 to my thinking well yeah one

41:59source allegations came out that somebody was sexually assaulted and absolutely abuse so what was going on it seems to me it seems to me for one reason or another whether it was Washington or whether it was Santa Fe the investigation in Zoro Ranch got quashed in 2019 yeah and it was probably you know for a reason to protect some people or I'll pry a lot of people who knows well I mean people involved with that place and when you think about it there must be I mean there should be I should be picking up evidence on various male members of the power lead who part took in these things the only person who's ever gone to prison so far is a female who who helped orchestrate the whole thing for Epstein Gilane Maxwell she's the only one in prison what about the men who were doing these things to underage women that's what needs to come out and they need to be investigated and prosecuted and have found guilty put in prison

43:03right yeah because I mean a lot of the accounts that are coming out especially from this Zoro Ranch is a lot of underage girls were involved in the in the activities there at that place and that's for them to not investigate that back at 2019 is bizarre especially when they when they went through all of his other properties and Zoro Ranch was probably the most diabolical all of his places yeah he knew he had the protection of the governor who he was friends with and he was way out there way out there at the desert and nobody could escape there it would be impossible for somebody to do it once once these women show up they're there they're practically prisoners of the place they're not gonna leave they can't that's crazy to think that and what experiments would they be doing on women there I mean it's not like he's a doctor or anything like what is happening what

44:06I hope they'll find out but there are rooms in his place that photographs have emerged from the Epstein files of medical clinic clinical medical type facilities so very scary stuff yeah it sounds like it like what are they doing with that stuff and what are they doing to these women and I hope I mean I hope more people can you know get the word out of what happened to them if they are victims of this whole Epstein circles because it's it's shocking what has been coming out and know that it's just more and more and now we have this whole Zoro Ranch I never even heard of the Zoro Ranch until of recent a new stuff and to know that it wasn't investigated properly or at all nobody was asking the questions that needed to be asked at the time which would have been more important but I hope they can at least find something tangible yeah we could at least

45:10put more people behind bars that belong there instead of just one person absolutely I mean the sad part is there were a lot of a lot of people who came forward now according to the Epstein and just weren't taken seriously or ignored the the powers that be did not want to know and it seems like the only time they any anybody in politics would want to know was for political reasons oh what can I use from that against my opponent that that was really their only interest not not justice to my thinking now you have people in in Congress like Nancy Mase who who are very dedicated to getting the truth out you know let the chips fall where they may it doesn't matter it's not a republican thing it's not a democrat thing whoever is culpable should be investigated and prosecuted right yeah it's justice justice does take a and no and nobody should be using it for political reasons it should only be for justice yeah yeah because it's you know

46:16the victims of of this whole orchestrated fiasco that is the Epstein files they need justice like you know I can't imagine being a young girl and putting the putting having been put in those positions and a lot of their parents were very it seemed like a lot of their parents were all full gun hole for their their daughters to be hanging out with these elite politicians and yeah it's a mistake parents make they think okay maybe I'll marry my daughter off to some very wealthy person well that very wealthy person doesn't want to get married to them we're giving money they just want to use them like a toy yeah yeah and it's it's sad it's very sad and you know despicable yeah you know that you had to keep somebody from hey you had to babysit a prince basically to keep him from falling into these types of behaviors that you're not we know see unraveling in these documents of Jeffrey Epstein and you know I mean luckily nothing came

47:22about Prince Albert being tied to any of those things because I would not want to be his PR person if he was tied to anything with the underage stuff with Epstein that would have been a nightmare to have to handle yeah no I'm surprised Andrew never introduced him to those circles but then again Andrew liked it for himself perhaps um don't want to share yeah because they just stay him and Albert kind of their behavior kind of mirrored each other a bit yes well in the public eye what from what he can get from well I public and private well what we're discovering what we're discovering about Andrew now is in the private eye too and for me my insider look at Albert and how he was only really interested in his social life shall we say uh rather than affairs of state that yes it's not just in the the public persona that's what they're really like freight rail does more than move goods it drives America's economy every dollar invested

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50:35tonight's a pair now now after you've left uh Monaco and and left uh your service as uh Prince Albert's uh basically main guy uh how did things how did things go after you left where some of the things that you implemented stay that way or did everything just kind of dismantle and it's kind of back to the way it was beforehand when in fact it was going back the way it was it was clear to me that Albert had lost interest in being informed uh lost interest in his intelligence service had lost interest in being briefed by other intelligence services the government had discovered the our existence and and was battering him to end it they didn't want him to have an intelligence service all this was going on and I could see was getting kind of dangerous for me to be there um I I was invisible for for for most of the five and a half years I worked for Albert with that last

51:37six months I was they knew they knew my name they didn't know my face and it got dangerous I think and I thought there's no point me sticking around here anymore a it's dangerous and b he's he's not part of the program he doesn't really want to know so I disassembled my intelligence service let all of our various liaison partners know and took all my files and um and moved back to the United States wow and then things started to get really bad there and have been getting worse and worse ever since no no you should have listened hey that's what I you know you always listen to your master you know it's like me I always listen wax on wax off you may not understand it now Albert but eventually you know and yeah and he's just it's crazy to think that that you had to go in and put in an infrastructure of some type of intelligence agency to weed out what

52:38you'll find it out and come to find out that it's kind of like this is how things are here and it's like oh my gosh the moral compass that you had going into this is now spinning out of control because what do you do because your whole purpose of what you were doing was trying to clean everything up and actually said that to him yeah I mean I could always tell with Albert it was like whoever he last talked to was what he had programmed in his brain so after we were making some progress for a while but then at some point he said to me but that's always been the way of life here when we were talking about some something to do with corruption in one of his ministers that's the way of life and I know that phrase got beat into his head by whoever he just talked to the day before the night before and I said yes Albert isn't but isn't that what it was you wanted to change he didn't have he didn't have an answer it was like you mean to tell me you didn't realize before

53:40that this is what Monaco was all about well you must have realized it because you actually made a point of saying at your investiture that you were going to change it that you were going to clean up your principality and introduce what you called a new ethic right otherwise you end up in the Epstein files well love you for him he didn't but but yes but but he's he's it hasn't been good for him it's been a rough ride because I turned out like like I pointed out to him 20 years ago his palace accountant was corrupt and his personal or it was corrupt and what happens a couple years ago they get exposed in the French media for being corrupt and the accountant was actually escorted out of his job at the palace by the Caribbean area and now is considered disgraced in all kinds of lawsuits with Monaco and Albert at the moment it's a total mess yes Albert should have listened okay we knew what we were we knew what we were doing we knew what we knew we knew what

54:43we were talking about he should have taken the advice of his intelligence service and dealt with all of the rubbish and the corruption when he had the chance 20 years ago and he'd probably be looked upon very differently today than he actually is he's he's I I believe he's looked upon as a failure and his legacy will be quite horrible because he's done all the wrong things right right yeah he's definitely gonna be singing a shudda kudda what is because yeah it's the turn that the road that he totally took is what we're is being exposed on a day-to-day basis that corruption that just this underground underbelly being untrustworthy and it's from little things to having little affairs and and stuff like that to these large mass you know things of money laundering cartels and sex trafficking and it's just you know to clean it up I mean that that that seemed like

55:51it was probably a very honorable job for you to do and to find out that that's not the way it's going that had to been hard for you to handle and I don't believe me for wanting to just walk away because there's no point I mean the only point I could have I could have gotten very wealthy if I chosen to be corrupt as well and remain in my job the going right for organizing a lunch if somebody wanted to have lunch with Albert they would be willing to pay 50,000 euros and at least one of his close palace associates of court here was indulging in that kind of money to get Albert to attend somebody's yacht party or to attend another party or to or to have lunch or dinner I could I had cash offers like that I it would be anathema to me to ever accept anything like that I in fact because I was there to do exactly the opposite I was there to clean up the trash around Monaco and stop that sort of thing from happening but that's what everybody else was doing and

56:54and Albert ultimately became corrupt himself and I could give you the perfect example of that something he did that set the absolute wrong example to all of his ministers and everybody else around him and that is he accepted a bribe from Vladimir Putin Vladimir Putin of Russia he was president at the time of course he went back and forth his little charade of staying in charge from president to prime minister and back again that time it was president and he wanted the Olympics the Winter Olympics to be in Sochi in 2014 well Albert is sits on the has since the 1980s he sits on the the International Olympic Committee and that's the committee that votes on where where Olympic events should be held so Albert is Putin throws a state dinner for Albert in coordination with Albert's expedition of the North Pole that happened in 2005

57:57it might have been 2006 and at this state dinner Putin offers Albert a gift what kind of gift a whole house a dacha how would you like how would you like a dacha dacha is a traditional summer house that elite Russians have out in the country and they leave Moscow to go to their dacha on the weekends so can we he said can we build one for you on the palace grounds Albert said well there's no room but how about if you build it at rock a gel which is the Ramallah family farm high up in the mountains I mentioned it earlier where Albert escaped to when he should have been in Monaco working after his father passed and went up there to play volleyball well that's the family farm so he said well you can build it there so what happens a whole team of Russian construction workers show up and build him a dacha on the grounds of rock a gel from scratch well for a stark you can you can imagine that it's it's wired to the gills to the rafters with all kinds of

59:02recording equipment but you never find that's number one number two is it is against the IOC's code of ethics for one of its members to accept a gift from a leader of a country or anyone that's in contention for Olympic an Olympic venue so Albert was oblivious to it he probably didn't even know there was such a thing as the code of ethics and he's not a personally greedy guy it's not like he just wanted to accumulate stuff gifts or money or anything else he has enough of it he was just stupid okay it was just a really dumb thing to do here you are you accept this very lavish gift and you don't report it of course because you don't even know that you you're supposed to and and it's in contravention of the IOC so in that sense Albert became corrupt himself and everybody who learned of this dacha goes okay well even Albert is is is taking bribes so I guess

1:00:04it's okay again we're not being cracked down at all in fact corruption increased not decreased wow and to give somebody a house that's oh what what do you mean I didn't have to tell anybody he gifted me that oh who are you get upset where did you want the Olympics brush off so when you ask me when you ask me if anything surprise me well that that was kind of a surprise but after that nothing surprised me and the brothel and the brothel in ma in in Moscow rented out for for his birthday it's how can you be surprised after after a couple of those bright yeah it's just it's like oh my gosh you just go going through the paper you're just like oh geez it's just getting worse as we go through oh my god I can't imagine it's it's almost a good thing I suppose I could have written this book soon after I left Albert's employee at the end of 2007 but it actually in hindsight made a lot more sense to finally write it now because of all that's

1:01:10happened since and how that my own role in Monaco has been largely vindicated when I first I was a little public when I first got out because I was a little unhappy that Mon that Albert had turned his back on his promises to do certain things to clean things up so I made some noise about it and their reaction in Monaco was who who we don't know who what are you talking about he didn't he didn't do what he claims to do they tried to discredit me um and okay fine that's the game you want to play we played that game for a bit uh it's clear they know they know um and it I guess nobody understood quite the extent of my operations number one and two that I actually retained all my files yeah and then everything that I was saying back then a few years later everybody in the French media who were stretching their heads wondering how I could know these things and they couldn't possibly be true are going man if you go back and read what he was saying and read what

1:02:11he wrote back then it's all come true right and it has well that was a that was a great time to put the book out yeah was the book the spy master of Monte Carlo tales of royalty espionage and betrayal I'll have a link for that in today's description I highly recommend it and if you guys buy the book and read it rate and review it online wherever you buy your book it helps those books get seed more you know when people are searching up specific topics those will pop up right away um I can't wait to dig into it myself because I love these kind of stories and and to know that it just how all these it ties into reality that we're dealing with today and you know with the whole Epstein files all that kind of how these elite people think they can just get away with murder uh with money laundering with corruption and fraud is beyond me but your book kind of sheds a light on that and to say you know this is how they just get away with it and people like you uh Robert you have

1:03:18this moral uh compass and when that compass is getting interrupted what do you do well you did the right thing you walked away and now exposing kind of the the craft that you had to deal with and I'm sure that's where all governments fault isn't that kind of saying corrupted vain and you know money money talks and and you know so does sex apparently with these these people because they are like some kinky stuff it's some weird stuff I'm not gonna lie um but yeah the book again the spymaster of money carlo don't do you have a website or anything that people can go to I do is an independent journalist I operate on substack so it's robberdarenger.substack.com and I post early every day on monaco but also on other topics including zoro ranch and the Epstein files and and some fiction as well I've written some spy fiction based on operations and adventures that happen but I could never talk about so you have to put them through a meat grinder and turn

1:04:22it into a novel instead yeah I know it's but the hey with every great fiction story there's there's always a bit of truth in it and I love that and I even love true crime fiction stories because I know there's a little bit of truth in everything so it's just kind of nice to get out of that kind of factual narrative and kind of make it colorful I think it helps the reader kind of really grasp uh what the the case is about or what are you actually trying to get across in the book because it kind of puts them into that into the into the crime scene and the you know the story itself so I like I like fictional true crime stuff and stuff like that so I think it's it's a perfect blend of facts and fiction uh so go check it out and I'll put a link for your substack along with the link to buy your book uh again in the description no it's thank you so much for your time today Robert and thank you all and I hope to see you all next week thank you for having me

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