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The Cult of Saturn and Saturn's Black Cube

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This week we dive into the "Conspiracy" of the Cult of Saturn and the ties to the black cube of Saturn. From the mythology of Saturn, the science of the planet and how it all ties back into full control of the world we live in. What do you think, is this true or just a conspiracy? Let us know in the comments!

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It was an excess of cursed energy waiting for something worthy enough to absorb it. That's so long. That was a great one though. That perfectly explains Evan. Well, we're laughing at Evan. I'm Kyle. I'm biting the fart bubbles into bath. I'm going to be a long one. A lot of science, a lot of mythology, a lot of finger pointing at rich people. All of the ten people in the world are in the world. I'm going to be a long one. I have a lot of information. A lot of science, a lot of mythology, a lot of input, a lot of finger pointing at rich people. All of the ten thoughts at once are about noticing. The noticing will continue until morale improves.

I just noticed things. I'm really noticing things. How's keeping housekeeping? Do you want me to fluff your pillow, sir? All of our socials will be located on our new citing register. Slash reporting tool. Yeah, I like that. Yeah. Which will be in the show notes. It is freaking awesome. I'm hoping that it starts taking off and we start getting a bunch in. John made it real pretty. If you are interested in coming in on the show, you can click a little box and it will ask for your name and email. And it will send me an email and then I can send you an email. And then we can email to set up a time for you. So there should be emails going back and forth over the world wide. Emails are like the snail mail of today.

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We like them. We're fans. So yeah, just check it out. Everything's there. All in one convenient little spot. There's even a web player on there so you can listen to our episodes. Yeah. It's pretty great. People like it. I got a new listener for us last night. The one I was telling you about. Oh, really? He's like, yeah, send it to me and I sent it to him. Oh, God. Yeah. No, because he said with Evan. Yeah. Because he knew Evan and he's like, oh, yeah. He's honestly one of my fans. Oh, yeah. Good people of your former co-workers. Hi, Brett. If you're listening. We're home. His name is Brett. Yeah. It's he's too many breaths in my life. No, no, he's he's a good. He's a good one. Yeah, we like it. It's like it's not like Keith or, you know, like. No, like a key. What's your name? What's that you don't like that you've had bad run-ins with?

It's Keith. It's Keith. Yeah, okay. There's one Keith and we we both know him too. Then we like. I'm sure other keys are cool too, but. I really should tell him about the show just so I can say there's an episode where I just to absolve yourself. Yeah. We'd have to tell a lot of people a lot of shit. A lot of episodes. Yeah. We're we're we're about to breach 90 episodes. Which like I've said before our observation corners, the wheel weird stuff like that. I don't count. You're not counting regular episodes. So I did speak with John's dad. Yeah. And he is. For the century club. Yes. For the hundredth episode will be John's dad. Is he gonna is he gonna drink with us like heavily? Like can we like. I'm gonna get it over there. Like is that no I'm the Uber remember I don't drink the alcohols. Oh yeah. Yeah. I'm going to get in.

John's dad could ride with you guys. Yeah. He's just down the road. Yes. Yeah. No, it works out great. Excellent. What does he say? Should ask if we had any plans for episode 100. Yeah. And then the elusive John's dad. Yes. Well, I haven't even Chelsea. I haven't even seen him yet. I saw like a 30 year old picture of him. They're like here he exists and he showed me like a 30 year old picture. It's a we talked about. Yeah, it's like the blob squad. In the funny thing is it's like a how long have we known each other. Yeah. I think he's probably known you since about the same time. Like probably about the same time we've known each other. Well, I I know of John's existence probably in your. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's right about it. Yeah. Sounds about right. When I started like getting interested in like you as a person. Like before you were just like a little child and then you were like growing.

You were just a bag of skin. Yeah. Just existed. Yeah. You were that thing that Graham hit with the cane when you were like being too obnoxious. She said they're like you know, like bag of skin and bones. I'm not going to get the money. She was rooted in that chair. And Evan was. Evony. It was like Highlander the quickening Evan the Evaning. But he was going full full adult not adult. He has deficit was in disorder. She was swinging at King Adam. That was great. That is a core memory for me. Thank you for that cousin. I have very few memories of her because she passed when I was. Right. Yeah. But I do recall taking her egg o waffle. And then mean like oh, she's going to get up. I better take her cane too. I talked her key sabotaged Graham.

I took her egg o waffle. Ran away. I had the cane. And you know the little dining room. I remember running in circles with the cane holding it up and eating the egg o waffle. Amazing. You're horrible. You created the slogan for ego. Let go of my cane. Yeah. Oh, yes. The digressions are you know what? What goes well with good stories. The good stuff. Yeah, it's time. I drank a beer. What? I drank another beer. Three beers. Four beers. Oh, no. Seven beers. Six beers. Seven beers. Seven beers. Eight beers. Nine beers. Let's Coke Zero's delicious. It's got a weird aftertaste. It tastes good up front, but then it has a weird aftertaste.

Wow. It's weird because it smells like throw up. Yeah, no, it does. I got to smell the throw up. I need proof. It does smell weird. Oh my god. Yeah. Why is it smell like vomit? It smells like alcoholic throw up. Yeah. How's it taste? Like it has a weird aftertaste, but it like the front of it. Taste good. And then it's just like this is odd. So we're drinking. Well I wonder whether it's the double. Well we're drinking. Well it's not the concerts. It's like this. I heard that I was going to drink this, some of those drinks. I was going to drink this and put this off.

know where this was made guys. Oh, hi, oh, yeah. It does have a pretty cool slogan on here. It says it is. Make you want to kick a fat kid at K Mark. You know what I'm saying? Praise. It says it is better to fight and fall than to live without hope saga of vol songs 13th century. So we're we're quote and Vikings and we're from Ohio. You know what I like are the real life people adult human beings that like well, I think John, you said someone was that one guy that was German that he changes name and but there's like real adult human beings that are like my name's Björf Jarlson and they you know, they like wear the you know, my god, their cringe. I knew a Norwegian actually like a real Norwegian that I was friends with and his name was Jarlief from Norwegian from Norwegian. Jarlief? Yeah, he's really awesome. He had this really cool

like sleeve tat that was what do you call it? It was the chainmail like Viking chain. Like he totally leaned into the Viking heritage. I mean that means he's going to be really upset when he realizes that Vikings just wore like normal clothes. Yeah, I know. And and played the huge. But he moved back to Norway, unfortunately. You guys would like to I want to move on to giving this a two a two on the rating scale. I give it a two. Yeah, that's I'm disappointed. It had so much potential because the can is cool. It's got a cool name. Yeah, which is probably why it gets a two. Yeah, pretty much. Yeah, I would other than that, it smells like throw up. I does smell like they don't taste great. Yeah, it smells like throw up folks. Cool can though. Oh, I'll make throw up beers. Sorry, crafted me. Yeah, I do got to say it's

better than the last batch of meat I made. Mind and smell like throw up. But this will be a variety. We will not be as can crafted me to sponsor. Remember that stuff? What was that Cleveland beer that you got or someone got? And it was just absolute. That was me. It was toilet water. It was like a Cleveland brand like name. It was it was like a lazy dog brewery. Yeah, right. It was it was there. Shandy. Yeah, it was terrible. It was not good. Yeah. Also don't sponsor us. We don't want sponsorships from them unless you want to send us my vision cameras. Yep, and then we will change our rating because we're not above that. Yeah, we'll take we'll take money. He's your soul for sale. Okay, you guys ready? I am ready. I'll ever be. Evan, I have a question. Yes.

What do a black cube, a planet with rings, an ancient god who ate his own children, and a six sided storm, the size of two earth spinning on a top of a planet having common? I got me wrong. It's the same thing that temples, court, court rooms, graduation caps, and a Cuban mecca that millions face five times a day have in common. That's immediately what I was thinking about is the Cuban mecca when you said black cube together. They all form the black cube of Saturn and the cult of Saturn. Interesting. And that's what we're going to discuss tonight because I was randomly doing the tic-tocks. Yeah. And I came across a video on it and I was like, that's interesting. Yeah. Very interesting. So I started doing some research, took me a few days, put this together. Every time anyone says tic-tock, I immediately think of that caches song,

which was real big when I was in college, and waking up every morning, brushing my teeth with a knowledge. I identified with it. Seen by some as a decoder ring of the system used to control the human race or a delivery system for the much older and uglier ideas of the world, we will be looking into the mythology, the occult, and the astronomical aspects of this cuba air quotes conspiracy to get to the bottom of what could really be happening. To begin, let's discuss the astronomical. A giant made of gas, a giant so big that 764 earths could fit inside of it. And when I say inside of it, I mean the surfaceless area made mostly of hydrogen and helium. It is the farthest planet

to the naked eye, you can see, known as the slow one or the dim gold one to ancient societies. The slow one, because it takes 29 and a half years to revolve around the sun, and hence why it was named after the god of time. Saturn, of course, we also have the rings, first seen by Galileo in 1610, although his telescope was not quite good enough to make the moat clearly, he initially thought that the planet had ears, or attendance, or it could be a triple planet. Which I don't, a triple planet would just, that would be weird, that'd just be like three planets. It would just be like a planet in a couple moons. Yeah. Really close moons. Right. It took 45 years of speculation before Christian Huggins, Hugins,

and I say H-U-Y-G-E-N-S. Eugins, eugins, we'll go with that. That's the only time that we have to say his name. He figured out that it was actually a disk around the planet. Now we know these disks are formed by billions of chunks of ice and rock from the size of dust particles to the size of houses, but also spinning among them is moons. 293 to be exact. Many of these moons, bare names, straight from mess as well. One of these moons even has its own weather cycles and lakes filled with methane. That moon being Titan, and it is also the only moon in the solar system with its own thick atmosphere. Nice. But that's not the craziest thing about the planet. The planet also makes noise. It literally screams. What? It screams. But there's no sound in space.

How do we know this satellites? They recorded the sound that it makes. It's screams. Reaky sounding. It pours out radio energy known as Saturn, Kilometric radiation. The type of radiation is created by electrons spiraling along magnetic fields near the planet's poles. The satellite Cassini spent 13 years listening to that noise. But the pitch and the rhythm are locked into the mysterious rotation of the planet. That to this day is unclear how long an actual day is. Before we can actually get to the cube, we should discuss the hexagon. Unknown to us until Voyager's one and two coasted past the planet in 80 and 81, their cameras caught a glimpse of something that was so huge they could not get it all in one frame. And it wasn't until 1988

when a researcher named David Godfrey sat down with all of the stills and assembled them into one picture. This was the first look at the hexagon at Saturn's North Pole. And if you aren't aware of it, I've never seen a picture of it. It's not just sort of a hexagon if you squint at it. It's a perfect geometric geometrical hexagon each side roughly 14,500 kilometers long. And the hexagon is filled with winds that blow 300 kilometers an hour. And sitting in the center of it is an eye many times larger than any hurricane that Earth has ever seen. Oh yeah, yeah, that's that's very clearly a fucking hexagon. You've never seen it before? No, I don't know. I don't do science. I thought that was just like general information to the world now. I'm not a science guy. Oh, do I look like fucking Bill?

Hey, fun fact about Bill. Now his full legal government name is William New Year's Eve. The more you know, the more you know. Well, back to the satellite Cassini. It arrived to Saturn in 2004. The North Pole was currently experiencing winter. Pure darkness, but the satellites infrared was able to pick up the hexagon from the heat coming from below it. It wasn't until 2009 when spring finally arrived at the pole and Cassini was able to get a clear picture and the hexagon had not moved. Same place, same size. It had changed color though. Blue and winter, gold and summer. The chemistry of the haze had changed, but the geometry of it had not.

Scientists have actually been able to recreate the hexagons in a lab setting by taking a rotating tank of fluid where you spin the center at a different speed than the rim. And under the perfect speeds, you will get four sides, eight sides, but most often six sides. In 2020, a group of Harvard, a group from Harvard argued that the engine to this phenomenon is much, much deeper. Then the cloud suggests that the hexagon is not simply painted on the surface, but that it is the visible rim of something that goes way, way deeper. Which like I mentioned, there is no solid part of Saturn. If you try to stand on it, you would just go right through it. Hmm. How does it stay together? Gravity spinning. That's the gases, high speed, large mass, gravity and mass mainly. Lots of spinny spins.

I'm not a science guy. It's a big guy and it does a lot of spinny spins. And then on the surface, there's a lot of spinny spins on the outside. There's a lot of spinny spins with the ice ring, spinny spin spins. Last spins. It spins. It spins. Just like on Jupiter, where girls go to get more stupider. There's that big. There's that big old storm on there that's always going around. Yeah, it's been. That's my science. I learned that from William New Year's Eve. Well, hopefully everyone's still with us. And despite there being more science, we can go into. Let's move on. Lighter lights, power lights, more lights than normal. Power thirst. Where does the name of this planet come from? An old man with a sickle. In Greek myths, the name used was Kronus, the youngest of the Titans and the son of Uranus and Gaia. Uranus hated his children and as the story goes, would shove them back inside their mother.

Until Gaia handed Kronus a sickle, adamant that it was a blade capable of cutting a gun. Kronus waited in ambush and eventually cut his father down. Kronus then married Ria, which side know what Ria is Kronus's sister. And together, they ruled an age where the world would see no war in the earth provided food without naming it needing to be asked for it. I thought you were going to say together they made mutant children. They did have children together. Like the hills have eyes. No, actually, I'll cover that in a second. Because there was a prophecy that was delivered to Kronus. One of his children would grow to overthrow him the same way he overthrew his father. The big Z. So naturally, Kronus ate all of his children. Hestia, Demeter, Hera, Hades and Poseidon. Ria,

very upset with the fact that he was eating his children, hid the sixth child who was Zeus. By the beard of Zeus. The Zeus is loose. She did this by handing Kronus a rock wrapped in a cloth and he ate that instead. Tasty. Zeus would grow up in creed until the day he returned and forced his father to throw up his siblings, which began the war of the Titans. Kronus would eventually lose and then was bound in Tardarus. But in some versions, Kronus sleeps on an island in the west. To the Romans, he was Saternis. In agricultural God, in mid-December, they would celebrate Saturnalia, where for a week the city was flipped upside down and a mock king was crowned. Gambling was legal. Masters served the slaves and gifts were exchanged.

Later on, the Christians would take notice that their mid-winner feast was on the same week. And they did not want Christmas to be confused as Saturnalia, being three raccoons in a trench coat going by the name Christmas. So they used different lore. That was a good reference. Winner is a dark time after all and people need things to celebrate. So that's why they changed the lore. I like to celebrate many things in the winter. The story of Kronus and the link to time has been altered throughout history. By the time the writers of the Renaissance got their chance, Kronus was depicted as an old man with a blade, an hour glass, and he was eating a child. Tasty. But throughout time, the sickle has always stayed. It even is seen in the glyph used for the planet, which is a cross with a curved hook.

I thought you were going to say it is even seen on the Soviet flag. Saturn or Kronus was a kami. We figured it out. Kind of. But now that we have the story of how the planet got its name, let's ask the question, why worship a cube and if you chose Saturn, why not a sphere, or a ring which already rotates around it? Or a rectangle, I mean a hex again. We could ask Plato. He coordinated a cube with the earth because it's stable. Unlike a sphere, you can't roll it. You can you can stack it. And it's been called the most stubborn shape and geometry. In older cosmology, they believed in the seven wandering stars, Saturn being the outermost of them. And beyond that was the divine. Saturn was a wall or a gate that you must that must be passed through before leaving the created world.

You shall not perish. So they look at it this way. There's three dimensions to a cube and there was three dimensions, the earthly dimension, the wandering gods. And then after you got through them, you went to the dimension with the divine. I recently watched a video on string theory. Yes. And there's a lot more dimensions than that. It gets real weird and I can't even explain it. Well, this stuff I'm talking about, they were looking at three. I just thought I'd tell you. But John, you said a black cube. Yes, black is Saturn's color in the planetary scales. The ancients believed in this. And they had no knowledge of the hexagon on the north pole of the planet. But yet they had linked Saturn to cubes to two sixes and two hexagrams.

That's where sacred geometry comes into play. Those who practiced that would unfold a cube to become a cross. The crucifix is just a cube opened up. A hexagram, two triangles, six points. And to say the star of David is Saturn's seal, because it looks the same as a hexagram. Eventually, you would be able to use that thought pattern to come to find the connection anywhere you look. But let's actually visit the world and see where these cubes are that may help this theory along. First, Mecca, the Kaaba, is that how they say it? I believe so. Which is translated to cube, cube-like, or the thing with faces. Muslims face it for prayer in every time zone on the planet. And during Hajj, they circle it seven times counterclockwise. It is draped in the Kiswa, a black silk covering embroidered in gold.

It's older than Islam and was a shrine in Arabia that was said to how as many gods. Next, where the temple stood in Jerusalem, the holy of holies in Solomon's temple. According to biblical measurements, it was a cube. A room of equal measure, though the book of Revelation describes New Jerusalem as a cube as well, a city sanctuary, dimensionally perfect to match the holy room. We also have the Teflin, which is, I don't know if it's still Israel, but it was used in weekday morning prayer of Jewish men. They would bind two small black leather cubes to their bodies, one at the hairline, and one on their upper arm facing their heart. Inside the cubes are parchment scrolls, passages from detronomy and exodus that command this act.

Though modern Jewish scholars do not believe this to be tied to Saturn, the cult of Saturn believes it is as they would believe a black cube bound to the head is a Saturnian seal. Whether the way where knows it or not. Another prominent cube is Asterplace in Manhattan. In 1967, sculptor Tony Rosenthal installed a black steel cube made out of core 10, mounted on a corner and stands 15 foot high on a traffic island. It was meant to be temporary, but was eventually decided on to keep it permanent. And if enough people were to push on it, it would rotate on a hidden pivot. It's interesting. I keep burping. I have the hiccups.

It's that mead. It is. It's a caca. It's it's it's it's it's it's not a good way. Yeah. Rosenthal's wife nicknamed it Elamo because she thought it had the mass of a small fortress. And that because it's and that became its official name. He made many more cubes over the years. None of which were ever actually dedicated to Saturn, but that won't stop the internet from starting rumors. You can also stop Hollywood. You also can't stop Hollywood from imitating life either. Take for example the cube from the hell raise or franchise. You spin it in your hand until a god of appetite shows up. Coincidence, right? Coinky dink. But are all of these just coincidences? Or is it something more? Tell me, John, is it a shrine in Mecca, a room long since gone in Jerusalem, a pair of black boxes

on the body while at prayer, a puzzle box from a horror movie, and a storm on a planet that looks like the shadow of a cube. To a group of people, all of this means one thing, control. And if you ask conspiracy theorists, the worship of Saturn never really went away. It just went underground and rebranded itself. I love a good rebrand. Everybody loves a good comeback stories. Saturn 2.0. They would also say that words like Saturn or Satan and Santa have roots in the word Saturn, even going as far as to say that the image painted of Satan, a horned goat-like figure, is the same of that of Saturn. But let's revisit what we talked about earlier in the episode. And begin to make the connections of all the myth and hearsay to connect Saturn to what we see today.

Saturn is the god of time and matter. If you worship him, you will gain more time in this world. Corporate logos are abundant with cubes. Is it to be memorable or is it to pay homage to an old god? Microsoft, IBM, or homage? I don't know. It's homage. I'm not an English scholar. It's just like you're not a science guy. It's not English. Whatever, dude. Just thought I'd tell you. He's looking for a board. He's finding a button. I don't know what any of the shit is. I'm fucking scared. Oh, my. Whatever. Microsoft, IBM, Nvidia, and one I don't think would surprise anyone. Blackrock. Fuck that company. Sponsor us or just like we don't take money from the pharmaceutical

companies or the cubewers. We will not take money from Blackrock. Fuck you, Larry. Thank. I'm on their website right now. Blackrock. There's also another one. And it raised Israeli-founded intelligence agency that focuses on high-stake, corporate and political intelligence. And can you guess what its name is? Dratalcore. Is it Shinbet? Black cube. Oh. Great. They're right on the old nose. Yeah. It can also be found in Freemasonry, which has its own conspiracies. We won't get into that too much. That could be an entire episode. It would be an entire episode. I have a Freemason

that's willing to come out and hear and talk to us. Really? Yeah. He listens. Do it. Do it. If he goes to cryptids and cold ones.grock.me, he could fill out the form to set up an interview. Or I could just set it up. I want someone to use the freaking sight, dude. Okay, fine. The Roman Empire filed the system of Saturnus, a system believed to still rule all of us today. In Greco-Roman time, the cults of Saturn went underground into a cult schools and passed that knowledge down through generations. And those schools in turn branched out into other secret societies, most prominently the Freemasons. But only the highest degrees of the order are taught the true knowledge of the ancient schools. Once a Freemason initiate rises above the first three

degrees of the pyramid, they are given the option to take one of two separate paths of learning. I think I wrote that wrong. The York right? Yes. The York right? Oh, Scottish right? Yes. Okay. I did write it right. Correct. I wrote it correct. I typed it correctly. You did? I did. Because then I also say, or the Scottish right? Yeah. If they choose the York right, they will learn the secrets more tightly aligned with the Knights Templar and other Christian layered teachings. If they choose the path of the Scottish right, they will learn esoteric philosophy influenced by hermedicism, Kabbalah, Kabbalah, Kabbalah, esoteric Christianity, astro-theology, and so on. There was more, but I got tired of writing them down. This seems to be the more dominant influence within our global operating systems. It is a belief

that something is mundane as a graduation cap is actually a tribute to Saturn. A Freemasonry ritual in which the graduation cap is the Stone Mason's mortar board. The mortar board on the head represents becoming a builder of society. Saturn is also known as the Lord of Black Robes. Students wear a black robe as they graduate into a system. Judges pay homage. Yes, there you go. While wearing a black robe and maintaining the law of his system. In another name he is known by is the Lord of Death. The Grim Reaper is a personification of Saturn. A black robe, a sickle, and comes to remove you from his system. In ancient times they believed Saturn was the first planetary God to judge your soul. Which, like the Grim Reaper. Yeah, interesting. But finances are even under Saturn's influence.

Is it finance or finance? Fasfinance? Oh, sales. Get your credit rolling. Yeah. Please sponsor us. They're not even around anymore. I don't think they're like JD by writer. They still are. Oh, really? Yeah, there's one in a second. Oh, yes. They wrote. It is interesting. Black is the good side of Saturn. When a company is doing well, it's in the black. You get the best sales of the year on Black Friday. You're mortgage, a contract that commits you to decades of time sacrifice in monthly cycles secured by a bonding contract enforced by law. And if you fail to hold your end of that contract, the bank will make your life grim by reaping your home. At the end of the day, whether you choose to believe in this or not, the cult of Saturn has

done everything it could to influence the world to align with Saturn and put us in a cube that we cannot escape to govern over us. But again, according to Google, there is no actual cult of Saturn. The elites of the world don't worship a nation-agent deity in pay homage to him and their logos. And all of this is internet law and conspiracy theories. Google would say that. Google would say something like that. I think I read too fast. I don't think you're right. Yeah, you're doing good. I think I read too fast. You're reading at a good pace. Solid clip. So yeah, that is the cult. The cult of Saturn. It's interesting. The cube of Saturn. The black cube of Saturn. I have seen that black cube with the arm wraps around a lot of Jewish people, like on X and stuff. Oh, really? Yeah, they're doing it. You know, like, I left there was a lot. There was that went back

to the Jewish faith. That's interesting. And I admitted quite a bit of it. Because it probably wasn't something that we can talk about on a podcast. No, it would not paint them in a very good light. Yeah, so I left it out because that's not what I was talking about. What are your guys' thoughts? I find that intriguing. I mean, I feel like a cube is interesting because I don't think it's not like a natural shape that like appears in nature, right? Right. So I mean, it is kind of cool though. Do you remember when you were younger and you learned how to like draw three-dimensional cubes? Yeah. I remember learning how to do that in art class. And I

thought it was cool. And I like used to draw them all over the place because it was one of the first things they taught me how to draw three-dimensionally. I did it today when we had our Is that a coincidence? That's interesting. Tell me more about this meeting. I don't per say have a belief that this is all true. But there's a lot of good points. And there's a lot of like it broken down in a way like that. Well, even the cross, he set the cross unfolded or opened up. Yeah. Yeah. Like you. It could be. It is extremely interesting. I will say that. I mean, it's one of those things where there's just a lot of different synchronicities. And you're like, am I just reading too much into this? Or is this a thing? Well, as Jim Harrell from Jim Harrell's campfire would say, too much of a coincidence to be a coincidence.

He doesn't believe in synchronicities. I haven't listened to him in a while. I like his... Jim, I know you're not listening, but how you doing, man. Yeah. I love to have you on the show sometime. That would be fun. Yeah, no. So September 11th, right? Yeah. Hey, that's today. Yeah, that's that's the day we're recording on. It is September 11th. And my son mentioned that to me today. He's like, did you know there was this thing that happened today? Like a long time ago. It's like, no, please enlighten me. It's like, yeah, some people like flew some planes into some towers. I was like, they talk about that today at school. And he's like, yeah, I was like, interesting. So like, what was your take away? It's like, probably shouldn't have been in the

Middle East. I'm like, did they tell you that? He's like, no, I just thought of it. And I'm like, interesting. I don't know how I feel about that. I mean, I'm not agreeing with the Middle East. I am telling about how much billions of dollars we were short the day before on September 10th, 2001. I'm not we're gonna read or how the owner of the World Trade Center decided that the only day he was never going to come into work was September 11th, 2001. And he got insurance on both 5.8 billion dollars. As his children also worked there, they got shot for work that day either. The buildings were insured separately. So the insurance was paid separately. So he got two insurance claims off of that. Well, obviously, because two buildings were hit, but still, yeah,

like intentionally did that set of he had the option to do all in one. What about Billings? He went to court over it. He fought to get double the payout. Really? Yes. And you know, recently when they were talking about a terrorist strike on the West Coast, one of the buildings that they were going to hit, this guy also owns. Really? Yeah. That's interesting. Interesting. Sam, Sam makes a good point. She said it's so weird that kids are learning about this right now when we had to sit through it. I know. I remember watching that in eighth grade. I just dated myself. I was in our class. I was in geometry. And Cal was like, oh, shit, I'm going to war. That was it. I'm googling who owns the World Trade Center.

Oh, he didn't know. Oh, it's one of those names. Oh, my God. The Black Cubes. Ha, did you just notice some more? Oh, my God. You did noticing we'll continue. That was like the ultimate notice. It was a live feed notice. Well, anyway, yeah, I'm that note. It's never too late to escape into ancient history and eat your own children because you don't like them. Good night. Well, hi. I'm Mr. Poopy Bow.

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