The 60th Anniversary of Star Trek

0:00Welcome to Hollywood's Hidden Trasures. I'm Danielle Dattigan. Thank you all for joining us as we celebrate the 60th anniversary of one of the entertainment industries. Well, actually, Hollywood's most popular science fiction franchises. You know, it's recognized throughout the world and it's great start television screens. I mean, I can't believe it for 60 years and up on the big screen. Well, what am I talking about? Star Trek. Oh my goodness. How many of you watched Star Trek? Well, 60 years ago with the premiere of the original Star Trek TV series, we first dared to go or no one had gone before. Since then, generations of fans have followed countless adventures across the Star Trek universe, making the franchise's 60th anniversary a major milestone. You know, Star Trek creator and producer Jean Roddenberry was once a police officer and a pilot. And he turned it all in to become a television writer. And you know, he became increasingly frustrated with the limitations of television storytelling with Star Trek and the Star Trek universe.

1:02Jean Roddenberry's science fiction dramas would go on to develop a devoted fan base and earn 189 Emmy nominations. Yes, 189 Emmy nominations. And they won 38 Emmy Awards. That's amazing. 38 Emmy Awards. Wow. Well, Star Trek debuted in 1966 during the time of social and political turmoil, offering viewers a hopeful and imaginative escape. Star Trek gave America hope during the turbulent 1960s. This early sci-fi series stood out for its optimistic worldview, diverse cast and progressive social messages. You know, on September 8, 1966, the very first Star Trek episode called The Man Trap aired on NBC, introducing audiences to Captain Kirk. You know that's William Shatner, Dr. Spock, Leonard Nimoy, and Dr. Leonard Bones McCoy DeForest Kelly, and the rest of the crew

2:02of the USS Enterprise. Believe it or not, Star Trek stated a five-year mission in its scripts, but was cut short after only three seasons. The final episode aired on June 3, 1969. But even as the most casual observer of pop culture can tell you, the Star Trek franchise was just getting started. The original Star Trek series became a cultural phenomenon, spawning multiple spin-offs, movies, and iconic phrases. The 60th anniversary of Star Trek celebrates a universe of shows and movies that make Star Trek's tagline to boldly go, where no man has gone before its storytelling mission. Many of us have enjoyed Star Trek and their 10 Prime Time Live Action TV series, 13 theatrical feature films, and three Saturday morning animated TV shows, multiple long-running comic book series, and hundreds of novels. Tonight, our guests include well-known award-winning actors who starred in Star Trek films on Prime Time TV shows and have

3:08done voiceovers for the popular Star Trek animated cartoon series throughout the years. And joining us will be a consummate Star Trek fan and Emmy award-winning actress who loves all things Star Trek. We have to just ask her if she ever guessed it on a Star Trek TV show or in film. Well, our guests will be weighing in on the popularity and cultural phenomenon of the show, and how this impacted our guests, their careers, and the past they followed. I know their stories. About their time and roles they've played on the amazing Star Trek films and TV shows will be entertaining and enlightening to say the least. Joining us throughout the show is the award-winning actor and great friend of the Hollywood Museum Phil Morris. He gained widespread fame as Jackie Childs, Kramer's fast-talking, exasperated attorney on the TV sitcom, Signfield, and so much more. Did you know that Phil Morris' first acting role was as a child? In the 1966 Star Trek episode Mary filmed at Desi Lou Productions, the same studio that also produced the original TV series,

4:12Mission Impossible, with Phil's father Greg Morris starring as Barney Collier and will hear more about that throughout our show. And joining us is Philm and television actor, a great friend of the Hollywood Museum, Rico Elliott Anderson. He's appeared in more than 100 TV shows, films, and commercials, and he's widely recognized for his television roles on Apple's TV series Truth Be Told, starring Octavia Spencer, Swat, and Orville. You know, Rico has built his career in pulp culture and sci-fi horror roles, including appearances on Star Trek renegades and Star Trek the film. Joining us is the actress singer and producer and activist Chase Masterson known for her breakout role as Bajorin, Dabbo Girl, Lita. In the television series Star Trek Deep Space 9, and for the entire run of the show she appeared throughout, and in the last five years, Chase has once again reprised her role as Lita in Star Trek Online and Star Trek Lower Decks. Chase Masterson is the founder and CEO of the anti-bullying, non-profit organization,

5:18Pop Culture Hero Coalition, and one of my friends from Oscar-winning Hollywood family to winning her own daytime Emmy gold, the award-winning actress and great friend of the Hollywood Museum, Carolyn Hennessy. She's created characters that fans love to hate. Yes, I said it, they love to hate. Both up on the big screen and in the small screen. And Carolyn is a big fan of Star Trek. I can hardly wait to hear what she has to say, and I wonder as she performed in Star Trek, well we'll soon find out. Joining us now is the Emmy award, winning stage film and television actor, writer, teacher and founder and producer of the non-profit New York Theatre Company, the New York Actors Theatre, Lawrence Luckenbill. Now, we all remember Lawrence's portrayal of Dr. Spock's half-brother, Sybok, in the film Star Trek V, the final frontier. Luckenbill served also as a cultural affairs director for the U.S. Department of State

6:20during the Kennedy administration. He is the producer of Lucy and Desi, the scrapbooks volume one, and how to save your family history, attempt step guide by Lucy Arnez, and he is the writer of the Emmy-winning biographical story for the NBC TV special, Lucy and Desi, a home movie, which by the way is a must watch. Well, Lawrence Luckenbill has penned and stars in his one person portrayal of President Lyndon Mane Johnson. He's done one on Clarence Dero, on Teddy Roosevelt, and Ernest Hemingway. And they have all received rave reviews for his powerful interpretations of these passionate Americans. And Lawrence is married to the actress singer, Lucy Arnez, daughter of Desi Arnez, and Lucille Ball. And they have toured together for several decades in several theatrical productions. Lawrence, before you say hello, I just want to say that my favorite production that the two of you were in was, they're playing our song. Well, hi, Lawrence. How are you, my goodness? Oh, I'm fine. I'm exhausted. I'm hearing you. Well, I'm exhausted too, because I got to ask you,

7:25I mean, how are you able to do all of this and have a family life? I mean, you've got five kids. How is this possible? Oh, yes. Well, it was pretty difficult, but we made a plan that if I was working, she would not work. And if she was working, I would not work. And when the phone rang, we would break each other's bodies to try to answer it. Maybe it's the agent giving me a job. I don't know. Well, I got to ask you, I mean, how did you get involved in Star Trek 5, the final frontier? Did you watch Star Trek before? Did you have a family character? Never watched it. And just a side issue when Lucy and I met, she brought up something about a Lucille Desi old movie. And I said that well, I've never seen and she was in disbelief, but it was true. I was a serious actor. You're in close. Yes, you were in the theater, my goodness. I didn't watch previlists, you know, sitcoms. Of course, of course, that's not true of that show.

8:33But the reason that she married me was that I had never seen. Well, you got to appreciate that. That's really something. Well, let me just say that with us, also this evening is our director of operations, Steve Nicholmo. Hey, Steve. It's great to hear Lawrence's voice. Thank you, Laurence. And our Hollywood Museums publicist Roger Neil. Hey, Roger. Good evening, Denow. Well, all right. Let's just quickly tell everyone how they can learn more about the Hollywood Museum. Well, you can just come on down to the heart of Hollywood in person to 1660 North Island Avenue, or you could follow us on our website, the hollywoodmuseum.com or on Instagram at Hollywood Museum. You know, it's time for a station break and you're listening to Hollywood's hidden treasures. I'm Denow. Daddy and I'm going to be back when we return. We'll be speaking with Lawrence Luckenbill, the Emmy award-winning stage film and television actor, writer, teacher, and Spock's half-brother, Si-Bock from the film Star Trek 5, the final frontier. Well, I'm just

9:34going to give you a little hint. Did you know the original TV series Star Trek was produced and filmed at the Desi-Lew Studios, the studio that was originally owned by Desi Arnez and Lucille Ball? Well, stay tuned to hear more of Hollywood's hidden treasures. We've got lots to talk about. Welcome back, you're listening to Hollywood's hidden treasures. I'm Denow. Daddy and tonight's show is all about celebrating the 60th anniversary of one of Hollywood's most popular science fiction franchises Star Trek. Please welcome the Emmy award-winning stage film and television actor, writer, director, and founder and producer of the non-profit New York Theatre Company, the New York Actors Theatre, Lawrence Luckenbill. You know, we all remember Lawrence's portrayal of Dr. Spock's half-brother, which we didn't know until I think was it a whole series afterward or a whole year afterward? When did we finally find out who your half-brother was? Lawrence, you have to tell him. Oh, I don't know. Well, that'll be part two. Okay. Here's a part two, yeah. Maybe somebody,

10:40somebody in Star Trek will be calling you to say, this is the date. Like I just watched on La Vousia, Never Watch Star Trek. So the call came and the call came from Bill, Shadr, and Yes, because you two are friends, you and William Shadr. Well, we are good friends now, but at that point, I didn't know him. I found out that he, what he said to me about casting me was that he was in some hotel somewhere and it was Sunday night. He had nothing to do and nothing to watch. He turned on PBS of all things and there I was playing Linda Johnson and he said, and I want you to do Sivark. And I said, Linda just Sivark. How does that work out? But you know how Hollywood auditions go. And I was an at working actor and I auditioned a lot, but when I arrived at Paramount Studios for this audition, I was met very strangely by a golf cart. Oh, yes. And I said, Mr. Lacka Bill, I want

11:46to come with me. I will take you up to your bungalow. But first we get somebody to park your car for you. Well, okay. You know, I was used to park my car where I could walk into the bungalow. And so we drive up the bungalow and we go inside and everyone stands up. Oh my God. Wow. And Bill and Harb Bennett and even the writers stood up. Was that part of the protocol for the USS Enterprise or what were they giving you that feel? You might have said so, but no, it's not the protocol for an audition either. Yes. And the writer, very nice fellow. He always sits in the back and nobody ever asked you a question. But anyway, the conversation went something like this. Bill said, Larry, I want you to play Syvac. And Harb Bennett said, well, Bill, maybe he should read the script first. And he said, no, I want him. And Harb said, well, Larry, what's with you? And I said,

12:53there, you know, let me read the script. And they said, good, here it is. And they both said to me, take it home. Breathe. Tell us what you want to do. Well, this was very unusual for me at least. I think for everybody, what an audition, my goodness. It was almost like you were auditioning them. It was up to you to decide. If you want to. Exactly. Exactly. Right. And I went home. I read the script and I could hardly wait till dawn. Call them. Call them and tell them, yes. And so tell it started. So, but then Bill said, I would like to know how you're going to play the part. So let's meet for lunch in Santa Monica somewhere. And we have a nice lunch. And we'll talk about it. So I waited. And he called me and he said, you know, the juice bar down my on third street or third avenue. I said, yeah, I do. He said, well, make me there. That's such a set. So we're

13:58were sucking on on juice on smoothies. And he says, well, how are you going to play cyborg? And I said, a linen. And he said, oh, John, I said, no, not a very early age. Lining Russian. Wow. Wow. The star dropped out of his mouth. He said, whoa, this not a calming movie. I said, let me tell you about Lening. He was a good guy at the beginning. And he helped his people. And where you did many things, extreme things to help to put those extreme things to him to a severe point where he couldn't finance any of them anymore. And they had a famine in Russia. And to stop that, Lening had to become a dictator. And he did. And I applied that to what was the script I

15:02had read. And I was adding what I would call effective memories to this script. Effective memories. This is title of my. That's your book. You title of your book. It's a new memoir. It's fabulous. I want to want. We're going to talk about that in a moment, but I want everyone to know they should do it. So I was just doing my job, you know, figuring out who this guy was and what he had to say in this story. And so we eventually got to to first day. And the first bill said to me, yes, okay, well, I'll listen to you, but no more talk about motivation, okay? There you go. So I mean, actors, you know, they're not philosophy or explanation. They're about action. Oh, isn't that the truth? Well, let me just say to you, your wife Lucy has said that even after your Tony nomination and Emmy win and your very successful one-man show portrayals

16:09of Lyndon Baines Johnson, Clarence Darrow, Teddy Roosevelt, and Ernest Hemingway, not to mention your successful book, Effective Memories, How Chance and the Theater Saved My Life. Somehow your character of Sybok from Star Trek at times still overtook and cast a shadow over all of your other accomplishments. I mean, just think about that. So I got to ask this question of you. You know, you and your character, Sybok, have been one of the most popular draws at many Star Trek conventions. What was it like for you? What was it like when your fans come up to you? Do you have any crazy encounters? I mean, are they able to separate you from your character? Well, not a single one. What I learned from the encounters with the fans, which when you hear about fans, you don't take much of them, you know, but you wonder what they are all about. But at the convention, I saved myself. I didn't go to these conventions. And eventually everybody caught on and said,

17:14oh, this here's this is the guy that never comes here. So it will be exciting to see him. So I was in Las Vegas. And afterwards, whatever we were, signing things. And even before that, fans came up to me and they were the most literate, interesting searchers that I had met in a long talk. And I have been since then a fan of fans. I love it. I love it. What you know, I just can't believe how quickly this segment has gone by. Lawrence, it's been really a pleasure having you here on Hollywood's Hidden Treasures. And I would love for you to share with our listeners how they can follow you. And if you would tell us a little bit about your new memoir, Effective Memories, how chance and the theater save my life. That would be great. Okay. And I'm working on my third book now. Wow. And that's called Finding Home, a tale of a quest to vanquish fear. Oh, I would love to read that. Oh, my goodness. Well, I'm just reading it now.

18:21I'm on page 27. And it's 140 to go. And I'm making corrections and making amplifications here and there. Which everybody, everybody Lucy goes, no, no, please don't, no, no, no, you can't write anymore. But we take your pen away. Well, tell me, do you have a website or do you have a Facebook or Instagram? I have a website. It's Lawrence like a bill.com. Fact is, there's a side box on there and a piece of me. And I think all of my one man shows it. So I give it more free. I'm a missionary. You're more than a missionary. You help us all every day. Let me tell you, I have been a real fan of yours. And I think about from once upon a time when you and your wife came and visited us at the Hollywood Museum, the first visit. Oh, my goodness. I remember that too. Oh, oh, well, Lawrence, it's been a real pleasure. And

19:22thank you again for joining us today here on Hollywood's Hidden Treasures. And I know all of our listeners loved your stories. And you have so many more. We're going to have to ask you back again. I love it. Say yes. Yes. All right. Well, thank you, Lawrence. Thank you so much. Oh, my goodness. Lawrence, luck and built. Well, stay tuned to Hollywood's Hidden Treasures. I'm De Nile Dadigan. And when we return, we will be speaking with the film and television actor and great friend of the museum, Rico E. Anderson. And he'll share some of his personal stories about his time on Star Trek Renegade and from the film Star Trek. Stay tuned. You're listening to Hollywood's Hidden Treasures. And we've got lots to talk about. Welcome back. You're listening to Hollywood's Hidden Treasures. I'm De Nile Dadigan. Tonight's show is all about celebrating the 60th anniversary of one of Hollywood's most popular science fiction franchises Star Trek. Please welcome our next guest and great friend of the Hollywood Museum Film and Television Star Rico E. Anderson. Now Rico has appeared in more

20:24than 100 TV shows and films and commercials. And he's widely recognized for his television roles as Herbie on Apple TV Plus series. Truth be told, starring Octavia Spencer, SWAT, The Orville, and even the daytime dramas, The Bold and the Beautiful, and Days of Our Lives. You know, Rico has built his career on pop culture's sci-fi and horror roles, including appearances on Star Trek Renegades and playing Federation Council member Captain Kelly Bogle of the 2009 film Star Trek. Rico also enjoys being a professional voice artist across commercials, video games, and animated projects. Hi Rico, how are you? Wonderful to know. Greasy here for a museum. Thank you so much for having me on. Oh, absolutely. We're going to have such fun today talking about Star Trek. I mean, you have appeared in several different elements of Star Trek throughout the year. So I think this is going to be kind of cool. I have like this super fan question for you if I could. Sure. Can I ask it? Let's see if you can

21:26answer it. Are you ready? All right. I hear me. I'm ready. Okay. What actor appeared as a Federation Council member in the 2009 Star Trek reboot later appeared on Star Trek Renegades and once made a living performing children's science shows as the Bubble Man. Who's that? Star Twin R. Star Twin R. Okay, who could that be? Four letters. I'm not saying it was me. Oh my gosh. Okay. Well, Rico, you got to tell us in a few words, what was the Bubble Man? Bubble Man was a touring production basically doing parties for kids. I was called Funded Discovery with Bubble Man. It was actually the science of Bubble making different Oh my. Bubble's are made and even different shapes of Bubble. We were actually able to make these where Bubble Man. When you think of it right off the dome, it's not possible, but certain

22:28manipulations of it all that go where Bubble? Wow. It will happen. Let me give you a hug. Oh, of course. Of course. Of course. Well, so let me jump now back into now that we have got the right Rico E Anderson. We've got the correct person. What was the audition process like for you? I mean, was there a difference in the auditions for film, for TV show? I mean, what was it like for you? Tell us everything. Sure. Well, one of the things that they asked was, you know, are you comfortable wearing prosthetic makeup if that possibility happens? And for a lot of people or for a lot of actors, some can be comfortable wearing it because it's fine like myself. Some are very uncomfortable wearing it because they can feel claustrophobic or some people may be allergic to say, like the material or the length and stuff like that. So there's kind of a half and half when it comes to who's able to actually perform in those kinds of roles. Now, if you're playing just like a human,

23:30then it's you're standard audition where you have to size and you know, maybe they have you auditioned, they like you, like the chemistry videos of there. I've been blessed that I've actually had played both the unit as well as someone is prosthetic makeup full on prosthetic makeup. We're both starting as well as people are built. And I have had some of my best times on camera playing something that you can't even recognize me. So much fun being able to play with a practically impermanent mask on. Wow, let me ask. That guy too. So of course. So everybody like playing the big bad wolf, right? Oh yeah, yeah. And you're such a nice guy in real life. Wow. Well, thank you. I know. The acting. There you go. So let me ask you this question because you know our Hollywood Museum is in the world famous historic Max Factor building. And

24:33who you're talking about wearing the latex mask and everything, you know, so Max Factor, Hollywood's makeup king, you know, they gave all the movie stars their looks. So I have to ask you, you know, when you wore the latex mask, which by the way, wasn't your Boris head mask on display at the museum? That was, I mean, that was really something else. Yeah. I believe it was. Yeah. Very monstrous. Yeah, it was, it was very scary. Now, because you had a mask, was that like a quick makeup fix, you know, for you? Do we have to take about, for that one, it took about four hours. You're kidding. I had no idea. Oh my goodness. Well, see, for that particular mask, it was like four pieces, it was like the head piece as well as the mouthpiece, which the way I like to describe it is, you remember like the planet of the eight parts that it had to wear. It was, it was kind of along the lines of that type of design. No, I would think. And then you have the way and of course, you know, they had to blend in

25:35everything that they could look like. I was actually more than, but what was great is, as far as me playing that character, what my facial expressions are so animated, if you will. I was able to kind of like act very well through it. So it really does look like I was looking for even more fun outing in terms of being able to trace someone outside of the comfort zone of not having you. And so, you know, on the flip side, when you were the Federation Council member of the captain, that was more makeup. I was a human actually. So it was more makeup for you. Yeah, yeah, just your standard make me look pretty. It took no time at all. I mean, you know, your standard time. Isn't that amazing to think that a complete makeup job took much less than putting on all of these different prosthetics? You know, we learn something every day. Wow. Well, you know, there's a lot of applying

26:36of the prosthetic, you know, and it all has to dry. The makeup has to be blended into the prosthetic. It's an amazing art to make it look like you were actually born that way and you actually live that way on your life. It really shows how committed these artists are who do this. So what was it like for you? I mean, when you've turned around and saw your face in the mirror for the first time, it came completely done up, you know, as Boras, you must have just like taken a step back and screamed. I was pretty shocked. I mean, it was more than what I thought. Like they showed me a design of what it was going to look like, what I was going to look like. I actually see myself, you'd be honest, one of the first questions was, oh, I'm going to eat. But now these sloppy jails are already crazy. Today, you know, as we're going, but it was an amazing thing to see. I was actually, I don't know, I look quite handsome for it. He had a Brazilian alien with bone thread locked.

27:45Yeah. Well, I love it. Let me ask you. You know, I mean, today it's an honor of Star Trek and it's 60th anniversary. When we think about Star Trek's legacy and it continues to live on even throughout the past 60 years and continues, I think Star Trek is more popular today than it was when we first watched it on TV in the 60s. What say you? You know, Daniel, the fact that Star Trek has survived 60 years, the franchise, it's just so much to admit that Star Trek was all about. It was all about showing a world or a universe, if you will, where everybody working together and everybody's ideas mattered. You had these people on the bridge of the Starship Enterprise with Captain Kirk and the Spock and Lieutenant O'Hora, the African War. We can ensue Lou and

28:45A. Man and Japanese at the time of the 60s during the Cold War. You had a Russian officer there that was signify A. While we were going through what we're going through personally, you know, in the 60s, we have somebody to represent, but representing that in the future where things are better and things were resolved and you know, it was worked out. We had an alien from another planet and they were showing all the diversity of the chronology and stuff like that. It just showed that Jean Rodney's very vision was one of inclusion and diversity, including everybody, seeing everybody as people like it should be in the world. Yes, I mean, it's so extraordinary when you think about it. I mean, 60 years ago, he had this concept and at a time during the Civil Rights movement too. Yes, the Cold War, the Civil Rights, all of this and how far in the real world we

29:50have come and how far advanced Jean Roddenbury was in his day and time and yet, you know, it's so interesting. The franchise continues today and the stories are wilder and wilder and he has more and more fans wanting to follow Star Trek Universe. It's a beautiful testament to what Jean Roddenbury started and you know, today you still have the acknowledgment of the things he was trying to do back then. You know, LGBTQ, you know, like the original series, the first iteration, yes. And just continuing that mission statement that shows that we as a race can move forward and like the saying goes live long and proper. It was also understood, I know, that, you know, certain ways of life just can't be shouldn't have. You know, you deal with the bigotry and conscious choices to be, you know, bad humans towards other people because they're a different color.

30:55You know, these are things that we are still having to deal with today, but Star Trek shows that this is something that can be achieved. I agree. I agree 100% and I just cannot believe how quickly the time has passed in this segment. You know, Rico, it's been a real pleasure having you here on Hollywood's Hidden Treasures and in our final moments together, can you share with our listeners tell them how they can follow you? Sure. On Instagram is I am Rico Anderson and that's pretty much my handle on all black. Got it. Got it. Yeah. Thank you. Well, it's fun talking about you and Star Trek and thank you for joining us. Rico E. Anderson today here on Hollywood's Hidden Treasures. Well, it's time to take a quick break and when we return, we'll be speaking with our guest award-winning actress Carolyn Hennessy. She's created characters that fans love to hate on both the big and small screen and she is a big fan

31:58of all things Star Trek. So stay tuned to hear more of Hollywood's Hidden Treasures. I'm Denelle Dadegan and we've got lots to talk about. Welcome back. You're listening to Hollywood's Hidden Treasures. I'm Denelle Dadegan. Tonight's show is all about celebrating the 60th anniversary of one of Hollywood's most popular science fiction franchises Star Trek. What else? And with us the Emmy award-winning actress Carolyn Hennessy, she's created characters that her fans love to hate on both the big and small screen and she's a great friend of the Hollywood Museum and Carolyn has gained international acclaim playing the top notch attorney Diane Miller on ABC's general hospital and you know Carolyn is the consummate Star Trek fan who loves all things Star Trek. Can we call you a Trekkie? Hi Carolyn. Love. I think you can absolutely call me a Trekkie. I will say that my love it's not just limited to but I really love the original series. The original series is sort of my jam.

33:00Fabulous characters and the other series and the spin-offs but you're not going to get any better than Mr. Spock or Bones or you know Jim Kirk and all of them because they were so groundbreaking in a way really so I love it. You know and I'm going to just jump in because I got to ask you something that has nothing to do with Star Trek but your character the attorney Diane Miller on general hospital. I mean you just have to share very quickly with everyone you were hired to do one episode and then 20 years later. Yeah 20 years it was it was originally two episodes as Sunni's sort of nondescript lawyer and that thanks to Bradford Anderson as Jamie and Spinelli and Mori Spanard as Sunni and you know Steve Burton as Jason who were all in I think those initial scenes with me. They made it so wonderful and it's just so easy to play and so the higher up set that point saw something and said oh I think we need to kind of keep revisiting this and they did so yes I think it's over over 700 and 20 years later and there you go. I love it. I love it. Well let me ask the

34:06question because I mean people always talk about what Star Trek meant culturally to them and what it meant to be part of the Star Trek universe and the family and watching this was there a change in your life in your demeanor in your younger years as you became an adult because of being exposed to Star Trek. I like to think so and and it all revolves around an expanded notion of the universe because people could say oh no no aliens no stars no starships nothing nothing it will never exist we just aren't we're just not going to be able to kind of get that far and I don't believe that. I think it was so hopeful and just very tantalizing and to think that there are absolutely other worlds out there because there's there's too much that goes unexplained in this world that could easily come from another so I think it's a very hopeful series very hopeful and you know the idea we it's one big universe we all have to share it let's discover each other. Well I you know I can appreciate that because I mean 60 years of watching the Enterprise

35:11when it first left Earth on television what do you think Star Trek was really trying to tell us. Again there's you know my favorite my favorite quote from Shakespeare's from Henlet and it's there are more things in heaven and earth or ratio than our dreamt of in your philosophy and that means we know what we can see we now have to have faith that there are things out there that are attainable that we just can't see and I think that you know interdimensional travel space travel you know heavens remote viewing all of these sort of interesting not quite tangible things Jean Rodinberry says yes I'm going to show you my vision of them and now it's up to you to go and explore them and to find them and to and to create them so I think culturally it gave everybody a much more expanded view as I say of the universe but then I remit there are many universes so it let us leave home it let us leave home you know what I mean so yep I do I do and I mean when I think about that I think well if Jean Rodinberry could see today's world the world of 2026 what do

36:18you think would delight him and what would disappoint him I think all the franchises would delight him the ongoing love of people for Star Trek and and what it represents because he created he created it so I think he culturally had his finger on the pulse and was kind of a master manipulator in a very non malicious way of society in other words saying don't don't be earthbound don't be earthbound you know there there are things out there I think he would be thrilled with everyone on this planet because I don't think there's anybody who hasn't heard of Star Trek in one incarnation or another who people who say yeah I want to know what's out there I think you I think you've re-thirled that he that he has affected so many lives well I like that I like that very much so I mean like thinking about this take a deep breath and think about this what did Star Trek get right about the future and what did Star Trek get completely wrong about the future well first of all it was one of the

37:25initial racial integrators you know and and different fates creeds skin colors you name it everyone was together on that ship and while the initial series basically had all they were all human with the exception of Mr. Spock delightful Vulcan but but they took from everywhere they took from all countries you know Nash you name it so they got that absolutely right and then in visiting every single planet or world or other ship they through you know 11th hour speech made by James Kirk would incite that other world to start integrating and start looking at women as this and start looking at you know you know African Americans as that and and you know and sort of blending and we can in other words we can all live together that was this that was his premise we can all live together so I think they got that terribly right um what did they get wrong I don't know

38:27God I mean I could tell you it's a trick question it's it kind of is in other way it is um I would have loved to have seen maybe some of the women that Kirk bedded in every episode um it just sort of maybe fend him off for a little bit not be quite so attracted because you know let's face it enough is enough um I mean just he just had his pick um I guess I would I don't you know listen he was his handsome star chasing starship captain who had his pick so you you want to say that the case whether it's in outer space or whether it's here on earth you know I handsome attractive captain of a ship or of an airplane you know sure sure you almost want you want to see him have a little just a moral compass that points a little more dark but then again boys will be boys will be boys and hands here you know I just have to ask because as we're talking about this I'm thinking about your

39:29dad you know Dale Hennessey my goodness he won an Academy Award for Fantastic Voyage and I'm thinking about him and then you've got your uncle who was part of the series working on the series what do you think your dad would think about all of the work that was done on the sets and the visuals for Star Trek and and how different it was I mean your dad's everything took place underwater but it's still that same concept of fantasy sure when my father passed he was one of the top five production designers in the business and was truly maybe the top sci-fi production designer because he did Logan's run and fantastic voyage you know but he was everything was by hand he drew everything there was no CGI there were there were no computers to aid him I think he would be kind of horrified and jubilant at what is now being able to be done do you know what I mean it's like horrified because whereas the art is fast being lost the art of drawing the art of illustration

40:31when you can just you know now with with the advent of AI you can just plug something in oh and there it is and you don't really have to take a drawing class you know you never have to take a figure study class but in addition to that I think he would also be stunned at how broad now the vision can be and how easy it can be to create I think he would be I think he would love that oh I didn't this you know I can't believe how quick the segment is gone by you know uh Caroline's been a real I know we're gonna have to have you back there's no doubt about it so it's okay tell us what your favorite episode all right well my first episode was the game the game stars of tereskelya that much I do know and I love um well first of all I love anything with harry mud and I love anything where spock actually actually gets to feel an actual feeling well now you're sounding like a trekkie okay oh my god oh Caroline has been giving me a mock time I can I can watch him off time any any any at all hours of the day okay well

41:32it's really been a pleasure carol and having you here today on hollywood's hidden treasures I mean it's really the time has just been by my goes but you do have to come back and visit us and share with our listeners how they can follow you because I know they'd love to be able to be in touch of course it's carol and hennessey basically for everything and it's the short spelling of hennessey h-e-n-e-s-y that's on facebook that's on my website that's on instagram that's on x um and I think that's basically the only places I am so yes did carol and hennessey fabulous well well carol and thanks so much I've had a great time with you today and see you soon okay honey thank you bye bye oh my gosh well it's time for a quick break and when we return we'll hear from actress singer producer and activist chase masterson known for her breakout role as the bejorin dabo girl leeta so stay tuned to hear more of hollywood's hidden treasures i'm denel datigan and we've got lots to talk about welcome back you're listening to hollywood's hidden treasures i'm denel datigan and

42:34tonight's show is all about celebrating the 60th anniversary of one of hollywood's most popular science fiction franchises star trek joining us is actress singer producer and activist chase masterson known for her breakout role as the bejorin dabo girl leeta now chase has enjoyed being a voice over actress in sci-fi horror films yesterday was a lie and his voice characters in robo tech the shadow chronicles and the unique film comedy russuoto which i saw and i enjoyed that was wonderful chase i'm gonna tell you and you know chase is the founder and CEO of the anti-bullying non-profit organization pop culture hero coalition which uses pop culture to address bullying racism misogyny homophobia and other forms of hate chase welcome to hollywood's hidden treasures thank you so much to now is an absolute pleasure to meet you and to be on your show i absolutely love it and it's wonderful to be counted among the wonderful actors that you've had aboard thank you so much let's

43:36just jump right into it and let's go back to 1995 when you first walked on to star trek d space nine set i mean what did you see that made you realize this wasn't an ordinary television show this was something special star trek is so indeed special being part of star trek it is being a part of a legacy that will continue for as long as i came and exist it is such an honor and a privilege to be part of something that is so huge and also to be part of something that has stories that matter that fans really just love and live their lives by you know the concepts of including and celebrating everyone for who they are the concepts of being able to go to to strange new world and to learn from their cultures rather than take them over all these things are so important in our world today and we're important to robberian 60s so it's it's a huge honor so tell us about your character lita what was she like i mean i know she was not human could you get into that a little

44:39bit about it that's interesting part of what really attracted me to the role of lita was the fact that she is a bejure and double girl so the jorns are a spiritual race very very much aligned with the prophets and their history very very strong spiritually and double girls are fun double girls are like the casino girls of space the density of the jordan double girl is quite an anomaly and i could relate to both of those aspects of lita so i thought it would be really wonderful to be able to jump in and explore all of those facets in one personality well it's kind of amazing because you know you were talking about this and it's two opposite ends of the spectrum combined into one element lita and i'm thinking about it and i'm thinking here you are you know you were on deep space nine and then you were in hologram form mirror universe guys and then you went on to do star trek online and then star trek lower decks these are complete different ways of inspiring

45:41and bringing audiences together but yet it's all for star trek i mean and i think that the one commonality that you had through all of this was of course you played your character lita yes it's really truly the gift that keeps on giving it's been an amazing road and part of what is wonderful about that is that these things are often at fan requests um i am honored to say i was the third actor brought aboard star trek online and that was third after Leonard Nimoy jack re quinto who played the next spot and then there was me and that was because fans are so wonderfully energetic and loyal and they asked the producers for me to be on the show lita then went to be as you mentioned in the holodeck and then they revisited lita's life 30 years later where lita is now not up at your and dobo girl anymore but if a jordan ruler of preringenar it just for fans out there who know of that and then lita became the emperor of the charon universe which is the mirror universe so it's just

46:47amazing how they and you even got married in the middle of all of this i did it yes and indeed i got married to the guy who was only pretty on the inside but lita saw how beautiful he was how lovely and giving and genuine and real and tender and he became the sexiest guy in the universe well we got to say three cheers for rom right thank you so much thank you max kriden chic who played rom is every bit as wonderful as a person as he is as an actor he's always been my favorite cast member so shout out to max kriden chic absolutely well you know you mentioned earlier about how star trek fans were loyal and they enjoyed you and they've remained loyal all this time and you are one of the most popular celebrities at star trek conventions so tell us what was one of the craziest encounters you had with your fans just spill it just tell us at all i'm just i'm already laughing this is great

47:50thank you they really run the gamut i mean fans can be so incredibly beautiful and exciting and and also so richly deeply invested in the show you know sometimes the line is blurred from what what is you know what's chasing what's lita and and i actually really welcome that lita was a very warm and and giving character and i think that has helped inform my own personality through the years you know you play someone long enough you become a bit like her so i think part of what can be so extraordinary about star trek fans is is just inhabiting continuing to inhabit these characters 30 years later i i will also just briefly say that this weekend at the creation convention the reception for all of us was so beautiful we sat there and signed autographs as long as the lines were there all all day long they had to shut us down because we ran out of time and how beautiful is that how many actors never get a fraction of this and yet we get not only to do these wonderful stories that can meet the fans which are really the people that make it possible oh absolutely

48:54so let me ask uh do you get any requests to go on vacation with them any marriage proposals anything like that well actually yes you have vacation with them each year star trek the crew is really truly one of the highlights of all of our year all year round and i've been privileged to do my gosh about 15 crew's and that's a wonderful chance to really say no it's nice to meet you to the fans it's wonderful to get to know you and we've been privileged to really be a part of of their stories as well as it is for them being a part of ours so yes well you're so sweet out of New Orleans but but but i do want to hear did you have anything crazy happen like a fan you know that really you know just went above and beyond i did have something really horrifying happened actually in 1999 a member of my fan club didn't get as much out of his fan club membership if he wanted so he listed me on an international dating service without my knowledge or oh my goodness

49:54you know you hear stories about this but it actually happened to you wow it did and it was during a very very tender period of time to begin with the show had just gone out of production six months earlier and this was actually to make it worse someone who i had been friends with only friends of course but he was a person that i communicated with by letters because he was one of the people who supported the charities through my fan club we all have these at that point anyway have these fan clubs and they would support charities and in the mid 90s my fan club supported non-crop it that helped children with AIDS so we were helping a very very vulnerable population and we did all sorts of wonderful work for them we actually raised enough money for them to buy a new home to build a new home but to buy everything that they needed to make that happen and this was a home where these kids lived who didn't have anyone else so i was close to my fan club and for this betrayable to happen was so unthinkable i ended up getting stalking and a death threat and it was

50:59a really horrifying situation and i have to tell you to know that if i were to retreat and get into a cocoon and not be open to each new fan that comes along i would have been missing out so all i could do was realize that is one person and that doesn't identify star trick fans or fans in general i want and need to be open and love people for who they are not for one bad experience well i have to tell you you are very strong and i commend you for being so devoted and and being able to rise above this and you did the right thing there shouldn't be enough about it and i'm just looking i can't believe it the segment is about ready to come to an end it's just gone by too fast chase will you stay on with us for another segment absolutely it might pleasure and honor thank you to know absolutely well it's time to take a break let me continue will be speaking with chase masterson you know she played that same character the dabo girl leita in three different star

51:59track series since the mid 90s till now and so i wonder what star track has changed i wonder how it has changed really you know and well maybe chase masterson will tell us we'll soon find out stay tuned to hear more of hollywood's hidden treasures i'm deniel dadigan and we've got lots to talk about welcome back you're listening to hollywood's hidden treasures i'm deniel dadigan tonight's show is all about celebrating the 60th anniversary of one of hollywood's most popular science fiction franchises star trek and with us is singer actress and producer chase masterson chase played the same character the dabo girl leita in three different star track series since the mid 90s until now well hi chase welcome back once again to hollywood's hidden treasures thank you so much deniel it's a pleasure being on your show absolutely well let's just jump right into it i got to ask you first of all we've got to switch gears a little bit what happened between takes that you wish somebody had filmed was there an especially funny blooper you can think of oh my

53:00goodness thank you um there are so many wonderful memories the bloopers i have to say let's see i think really one of the funniest moments is when people would screw up their techno babble this show is not for the fiend of heart in terms of being an actor it really the chops that you need to do that type of language are so very very strong and sometimes you know after a 16 hour day actors were just not able to say these tongue twisters you know take after take so remember one time where one of our actors was saying yes well that's due to the self-stealing stem bolts wait wait that's to this self-stealing wait that's due to the self-stealing stem bolts it's just we just had to laugh at like the seriousness with which we had to not only say these techno babble terms but also if you're doing that while looking into the eyes of a herringi you know these creatures with these

54:07huge ears and big teeth and orange makeup that gets all over you it was it was pretty surreal and yet very serious in the mode of star trek oh my goodness you know so i'm asking this question and then wondering what's your take on it what do you think star trek got completely right about the future and what do you think they got completely wrong about the future oh goodness you know rotten berries vision came out of such a truly divided time it came out of you know obviously the civil rights era and there was so much so much too much and what he was able to do is envision a future where everyone was cherished and celebrated for who they are and where we could not just look beyond differences but truly appreciate them and know that it takes all of us to make this world he envisioned a world where we could all live long and prosper and so i think he very

55:13much got that right because even thought what we all want we're living in such a truly divided time and we all do want the world to be one where we're accepted and heard and valued for who we are and i truly believe that in opening up dialogue we can create a rotten berry future you know you seem crazy but i believe it's true well i happen to have known gene and mage rotten berry uh many years ago so i do appreciate you saying all of this and i'm thinking to myself what would have delighted him and disappointed him about today's world he was a real thinker he really was i am so enthralled that you knew him i did not know gene but i knew mage was a very close friend of mine and yeah she was just absolutely wonderful and rad their son is a great close friend of mine i think that what gene would say that we're doing right is beginning to listen to each other having open dialogue where we can really at least hear what each other's reasoning is for the things

56:19that we do and say and for the ways that we vote for everything because it's only in those dialogues that we are able to move forward and make any sort of progress you know no one wants to be shut down no matter how crazy we think their ideas are on either side no one wants to be vilified demonized ignored so i think what he would say we're doing right is being willing to listen and i think what he'd say we're doing wrong is pointing those fingers and hating each other rather than voicing a dislike for concepts or policies yeah i know you know the ways the humans are alike are so much stronger than the ways we are different and i think that if we listen and learn from each other's points of view that a i think sometimes our points of using change and b will just live in a better world where we aren't at world the time between us

57:20absolutely well you know anyone who was making the show starting in the 60s you have longevity with the show and you've seen it through several different reiterations do you think they had the slightest idea that people would still be talking about star trek 30 40 50 60 years later i don't think they had any idea i think they did what's really important to know and do which is just to do the next right thing in fact i was able to sometime this weekend with a dear friend vajotrimble who is the woman who was responsible for spearheading the letter writing campaign after the first season oh wow oh wow as you probably know star trek was cancelled i thought it's so amazing because i think in the original script it talked about that the voyage was going to be five years but it was only three years and then it got cancelled yes yes actually i believe that it got cancelled after the first season they were all excited to know oh and it was bijo tremble this one she is now 92 years old oh she was not a guest at the

58:28convention this weekend but she did share my table and oh wow bijo's a dear friend she actually used to run my fan club in the 90s oh my goodness to hear the you know the dual double edged sword that this woman approached life with the incredible love and just passion for this show and the steadfast commitment to seeing its concepts live on and move forward season after season what an incredible thing for this woman to have done in the late 60s you know this was before women even had bank accounts of their own we know we're talking about all of this and i'm thinking to myself there's so many changes that took place you've said all of this and i'm thinking well how did being part of star trek change your own life like what changed in your life was for the better obviously but tell us so truly for the better you know one thing that's so important to me is yes to be a part of these stories on screen i've always been an actress and to be a part of

59:30this show with this legacy has been the biggest honor and blessing but even further than that more importantly to be able to do something where these stories meet real life in a tangible way so i founded a nonprofit organization that as you mentioned use a story that children and adults love to teach these great concepts well tell us more tell us more about your nonprofit it's quite something you share with our listeners exactly what you do i mean it's quite something thank you well in 2013 i had been actually i was mentoring kids coming out of gangs at a place called homeboy industry oh yes yes homeboy very famous yes and very helpful oh my goodness they're doing phenomenal work and long story but i was going to star trek conventions and comic cons on the weekend we're celebrating these incredible legacy projects where you know billion dollar space battles are occurring and fictional bullets are flying and then i would go downtown and work with these kids

1:00:33that live in an area of a real blitz were flying and all of this happening half an hour from Hollywood really made an impression on me about the disparity in the world and how most of us won the birth lottery and so what about the people who didn't how do we help them get out of circumstances that we can't even begin to imagine so i thought there's got to be a way to combine the incredible power of Hollywood and a pop culture specifically without reaching real life to let people know that we can not only just celebrate these heroes on screen but we can live their lives we can be those heroes and so i founded an organization with an author named carry goldman and she and i enlisted pop culture fluent clinical psychologist so these are people like dr. David and the scarlet who has a huge legacy of using storytelling to make life better and we take these stories and these psychologists and educators take these stories and they form lessons for kids so we have a 21 lesson

1:01:37plan program and our program was actually picked up by y and c a of us a in 2020 wow yes so they had us adapt our program for an afterschool program and we are the endorsed program by y and c a b u s a for kids after school that's just amazing i mean i don't know how you have the time to do all of this but god bless you for your devotion and this has been going on and on and on and i'm looking i can't believe that this segment has just gone by so quickly i thank you for joining us it's really been a pleasure chase to speak with you and for me to learn more about you my goodness and our listeners if you have a chance please check out more about pop culture hero coalition and chase why don't you share with our listeners how they can follow you and maybe if there's a website address for your nonprofit thank you so much the nonprofit address is heroicjourney.kids so instead of calm it dot kids heroicjourney dot kids and you can follow us on any social media

1:02:39at super hero i r l for super hero in real life i am chase masterson on facebook and x and i'm it's chase masterson on instagram and before we go the now i just want to say kudos to you for all the work that you're doing with hollywood museum you are such a hero for keeping these stories alive and letting everyone including next generations know how important the legacies of well thank you from one teacher to another chase i so appreciate your words and i look forward to having you on hollywood's hidden treasures another time we have so much more to talk about thank you chase masterson for joining us today here on hollywood's hidden treasures thank you so much denou it's been an honor thank you well when we return we'll be speaking with award-winning actor Phil Morris you know Phil gained tremendous fame with his jackey child a fast-talking exasperating attorney on tv sitcom sine fell but we have some interesting tidbits to share with you about Phil Morris and star track starting from when he was a young boy stay tuned to hear more of hollywood's

1:03:43hidden treasures welcome back you're listening to hollywood's hidden treasures i'm denou dad again and tonight's show is all about celebrating the 60th anniversary of one of hollywood's most popular science fiction franchises star track and with us is the award-winning actor Phil Morris you know he gained widespread fame as jackey child's cramers fast-talking exasperated attorney on the tv sitcom sine felled now we enjoyed watching film in his recurring roles as john jones the martian man hunter on smallville and silas stone on dc's doom troll and i can keep on going but you know one of my favorites is early in his career for several seasons he starred as the law school student who became an attorney on the daytime drama the young and the restless now Phil has a prolific background it's just kind of incredible when i think about he's a voice actor and his guest start on three different star track tv shows he made his feature film debut in star track three the search for spark as cadet foster high fill welcome to hollywood's hidden

1:04:49treasures hey denou thanks for having me again i love talking to you always oh you're so sweet well we're gonna have fun because i just want to say fill you have a remarkably long and unusual connection to star track i'm you appeared and you're laughing already you're gonna give it away to our listeners but you know you've appeared in three different star track television series and one star track feature film and you've portrayed i think it's like five different characters over more than three decades yes that's absolutely true the decade thing is what struck me most recently because i didn't really put that together that i had been in the first season of star track was an episode called mirrored and my sister i own and i were both in it and i have a picture from that set with the you know the clapperboard that says August 10th 1966 i mean so legitimately 16 years ago and i've just amazed at how immersed i've been in the universe the star track it's been an honor i mean the fans are incredible they are so loyal they're so knowledgeable and they will

1:05:55take this as a compliment so nerdy with their love of that universe and yes and i'm honored to be a part of it well this is a thread that has come through the entire show about the loyalty of the fans you know they love you they love the character they love the show it's just wonderfully i want you to take me back fill to 1966 you talked about it with your sister when you first walked on to the star track set how old were you i was seven oh my oh my goodness it was a bit of a stunt cast i think we've talked about it before but it always bears repeating the producers wanted kids in the show but they didn't want kid actors completely they had a couple of actors were child actors who were very well trained and studied and so they wanted those kids for the speaking roles and for the major kid roles but the background children who we were playing they wanted to just be like kids who would run around and you know play all the ostentry and i just see you can all the things that kids do and they didn't want us to be too studied and polished but they also wanted kids who knew how

1:06:57to you know comport themselves on a on a film set who better than actors children so our father Greg Morris yes so darned in mission impossible at the time yes yes yes Barbara Bayon in Martin Landau and the mr. Schattner they asked Vince Nakaviti who was the director and Tom Grise who was another one of the directors and we all kids came to the set and for a few days played make believe so what happened did your dad walk you over from the mission impossible set over to the star track set i mean you're all being filmed on desi Lou studio yeah well i mean no he brought us to work but then we were working you know he had to go to work itself so he went to do his work and we went to the star track set which was literally across the breezeway and as a kid of course it was phenomenal because star track had just started nobody really knew what the show was all about other than that it was the space adventure show as a child i was certainly into comic books and sci fi and fantasy and so we're here's all that so to go on the star track set was

1:07:58just a dream it was so real i mean i looked at it almost as always it wasn't real you know i was a child didn't have much discernment at the time um so it was an incredible experience mr. shatner mr. nimble everybody couldn't have been nicer and kinder to all the kids i mean they were their kids you know they mean we were set kids we knew them before we got to set we met them many many times it was a lot of fun so i mean here you were seven years old how did you realize this wasn't an ordinary television show i mean this was something different i would think from first minute you got there i don't know well costumes makeup wardrobe hair i mean you name it it was a game gene rotten berry who created the show was a true visionary as was boost gallery who created mission impossible so um those visionaries were so complete in their visions and their their visions were so palpable to be on the set was like to be in another world and like i said as a seven year old you have a very little discernment so i was like you know that this is real or not real and i think

1:08:58that worked well for the episode as i watched it it worked well for us as children have an experience or me i'll talk for myself and i didn't start acting in earnest until you know a 10 years later at the bible agency but that was certainly my first blush with with being in front of a camera and and understanding what the professional actor went through so let me ask you feel like here you were in the first season do you think anyone involved with the making of star trek in those early years especially 1966 did they have the slightest idea that people would still be talking about star trek 60 years later i am certain that you gene rotten berry thought that you know like i said he was a visionary so the only person who needed to think that was him i can't imagine that the main cast and guest stars thought many decades later that there would be so many different iterations of star trek from next generation to we don't brave new world to enterprise to lower decks to i mean it's on and on and on and and so many wonderful actors that have been employed

1:10:05over the decades as a result of that show star trek that would not have made it if lucile ball hadn't said you're not taking this off the air so no i don't think anybody would have imagined that it would go this deep and resonate this firmly in the consciousness of the world well i know our listeners would like to know the connection between lucile ball and the tv show star trek and keeping it on the air it's obvious to you but share it with our listeners so that they understand what it is that you're talking about well lucile ball and desi arenez owned a studio called desi lu and i like the name they really reached for that they in their wisdom green lit a pilot called star trek and another pilot called mission impossible and several other shows that were incredible shows that are very costly and they told lucile ball that ultimately they greenlit the series for star trek that they would they would go bankrupt which kind of happened which is why they had to sell the studio two paramount pictures but lucile ball in her wisdom

1:11:11infinite wisdom in her vision saw that this was a go that really could not be denied saw that this was a unique diverse multi cultural multi ethnic rollout and kind of politic for it to stay on the air at the time you could do that there were only three stations NBC ABC and CBS so it wasn't as though you're dealing with a great deal of corporate America in fact the corporatization of studios started when gulf western and paramount bought desi lu paramount bought desi and gulf western bought paramount but that was the kind of evolution of privatized studios they were owned by a desi and a lucy to the corporatization of studio ownership but people like lucy ball william paylee who was the president of cds mission impossible was his favorite show it would have been canceled if you said no you're not canceling my favorite show so those types of big bosses let's say could sway the opinion of the networks and and determine what shows could stay and and get pulled off the air oh my gosh well you know i'm seeing her thinking about this

1:12:15we mentioned gene rod and brary and you know he was really as everyone has said throughout the show he was quite the visionary he saw into the future what do you think would delight him or disappoint him about where we're at today in the world in 2026 what do you think he'd be happy about i think he'd be delighted with the diversity of our country i think he'd be delighted with the actual reality that exists in this country which is it takes all of us to make it work and the greater diversity the stronger the fabric that was starch he didn't confine it to america he posited that the entire universe was diverse and that the entire universe mattered and that is a massive statement especially in 1966 we had jourous to came to shell nickels and and and all the cane egg and you know so many diverse and different types of people that you did not see in regular starring roles on television and so that was a part of his genius was saying to the

1:13:16world hey look we're all different and we're all strong and we're all better together as a result of it so i think he would be very proud that the reality of this country is that i think he'd be very disappointed in the governing of this country and how we have not understood that those are our strengths somehow we as the as a government not as a people but as a government are saying that the immigrant situation the people who don't look like us are taking away from american values when in fact is 180 degrees and aesthetically the case we are far stronger as a result of our diversity we're far stronger as a result of our our gender and ethnic division in lines and it's what makes us america it's how we became america so i think it'd be very disappointed in how would governing the people here well you know we're called the melting pot and there's a reason why my goodness well you know Phil i cannot believe that this segment has gone by so quick may i ask you to stay on for the next segment i have so many more questions to ask you sure you know me i get to talk in and me so great time so i'll be here for you oh wonderful wonderful thanks Phil thanks

1:14:20Phil well it's time to take a quick station break and when we return we'll continue our conversation with Phil Morris you know he's guest star in three star trek series and in the feature film star trek three the search for spock well stay tuned to hear more of hollywood's hidden treasures um denel dadigan and we've got lots to talk about welcome back you're listening to hollywood's hidden treasures and with us is the award-winning actor Phil Morris you know Phil has been in three star trek tv series and the feature film star trek three the search for spock Phil you actually co-starred in the 1980s revival of mission impossible as grant call your the son of barnie call your who in real life was your dad Greg Morris i mean how is that that's like a full circle that's amazing yeah it says how you can say amazing as many times you want it still be amazing it's surreal um but come on mission impossible to our mission impossible the new mission possible they called it was a writer's strike precipitated show so at the time there was a great writer's

1:15:25strike I guess in 1987 and nothing could be written I mean you couldn't write a word of anything but they still needed to produce television shows and they needed new shows on the air they couldn't keep retreading the stuff they had so producers and so forth felt the mission impossible was one of the shows that they could bring out and not change a word of dialogue or characterization and it still be you know modern enough to date which I think they were right so they decided to do that and in fact the role I got was as barnie call your my father's character which was absolutely bananas and my father and I never thought I would get the role we thought it's too close it's too you're going to see me and you know they're going to go now no no but oh that's exactly what happened they saw me one of the last guys they saw wow they chose me and I was the guy at the last minute the writer's strike broke and they changed all the names of the characters except for your graves and made me grant call your son of barnie I just have to ask him it's just amazing I mean it's like a there are so many full circle moments in your career what did your dad think about this

1:16:26I think he was absolutely is a weird word to say gobsmacked um um totally floored by it and then he came down and guested on three episodes of our show which was again crazy here he is coming to guest star on the show that he made famous but I'm the star of it he was well and so he didn't see my mother we shot in Australia they came down and we have every single night just laugh like a look where we are look what we're doing look look what you have brought dad and you know it was beautiful I will say this though I guess we were on Saturday night every Saturday night he would call me he'd be in the States and I'd be in Australia so it'd be very late here and he called me go good job and I say thanks dad and you say but our show is still better that's fabulous that's fabulous right right right right well let's switch gears for a moment now if you could go back to the set in 1966 when you were a seven-year-old boy as an extra what would you quietly tell your younger self do the same thing

1:17:33just be a kid just run around just have a good time just that you know keep the imagination fresh don't get jaded don't think you know it don't think I mean just enjoy the magic stay with it and I have I have but honestly I would be the same thing that I tell myself now and I tell myself it all the time don't get too jaded too cool for school you know we've been yeah and as a kid I knew it I did don't know I knew my upbringing special my dad had a day with my sisters and I had two sisters a day a month that we could go and take off in school and just spend the day with him on set I love those days I couldn't wait for those days it was like going to Disneyland to me well you know as a critically acclaimed film and television and voice actor think about this what is the best advice someone gave you that you still carry with you to this day and why does it mean so much to you a couple things I had a great acting coach John Lennon he's passed away

1:18:37but he was a great coach he was Lee Strasberg's assistant for many many many on set two things one was you're always a character actor whether you're a young leading man a lead man's in all characters we all have great depths of emotion great depths of feeling nothing is simple nothing is casual because you may look a certain way and you fit the suit as it were doesn't mean that the suit doesn't need to be filled that was huge the other thing was your characters don't know they're doing a play they don't know they're doing a TV show they don't know they're auditioning they don't know they're doing a film they're just lights you're the one doing the film you're the one doing the play so honor the character's life and play them as though they're living in this moment not acting actually living those things are valuable to me wow no one do you are so successful in your career and in your personal life okay I got one last question Phil in three words tell us how would you describe yourself curious driven um accepting you know I think that describes

1:19:44you that really describes you wow well Phil what a way to end our conversation I mean that that's pretty major the advice to begin with and then the description of yourself wow well Phil I just want to thank you so much for reminiscing sharing your thoughts on the 60th anniversary year of Star Trek and we've talked about so much more than Star Trek thank you Phil thank you appreciate you did not anytime I love you so much have a beautiful day well don't go away yet because I you know I would like for you to share with our listeners how they can follow you and what's up next for you you can follow me at at the filmores everywhere all social media is at the filmores makes it very easy um I am now recurring on a show called fire country on CBS it's a beautiful role it play opposite of amazing actor named jewels Latimer I love that show I shoot in Vancouver they're tremendous to me and I love them very much and then I'm so on a show called the Upshaws on Netflix with Kimfield Mike Fs and Juan de Sides so that's currently running and I just

1:20:52heard today yeah Netflix re-upped sign felled for the next five years oh my goodness I want to watch my crazy character of Jackie Childs on control you won't be able to miss him you'll be on Netflix oh Phil that is fabulous thank you so much for joining us I really enjoyed our time together it's our honor and pleasure having you here on Hollywood's hidden treasures appreciate you to know oh me too me too oh my goodness okay guys Roger what was your favorite story tonight well you know just the fact that Desi Arnez and Lucille Ball had the vision to put this show on the air to greenlight it is just amazing to me it is it is and and Steve I know you've been thinking about this what was your favorite story well the show was very educational tonight we learned so much um Carolyn Hennessy said something they really hit with me and she said it uh I think she said it best that the show let us leave home yeah yes it really did it was a fantasy I mean I think it's very true you're absolutely right you're actually right now we're gonna think about

1:21:55for the balance of the evening oh my goodness well and to all of our listeners what was your favorite story well you know before we sign off this evening let's tell our listeners how they can visit the Hollywood Museum in the historic Max Factor building just come on down to the heart of Hollywood to 1660 North Island Avenue see us in person or follow us on our website the hollywoodmuseum.com or on Instagram at hollywood museum well you know they can come and see 10,000 real showbiz treasures showcasing more than 100 years of hollywood entertainment and you know there's something for everyone here at the hollywood museum in the historic Max Factor building this evening is just flown by I can't believe it in lightning speed we've had a great show with our friends who are big part of the hollywood museum and I think tonight's show case you know when I think about it so many different aspects and elements of Star Trek the films the TV shows the comics the computerized versions of it that have just come up tonight's show showcased several

1:22:56well-known award-winning actors who starred in Star Trek films prime time TV shows and did voice overs on the popular Star Trek animated cartoon series and the newer versions that we can find on the internet and we even heard from an Emmy award-winning actress who is a true trekky fan I mean can you believe it 60 years the 60th anniversary of the legendary Star Trek universe the shows the movies that have made the Star Trek's tagline to boldly go where no man has gone before its storytelling mission I mean it was amazing when you think about its first television episode that aired in 1966 and here we are today in 2026 well a big thank you to our guests Lauren Sluckenville film Morris Chase Masterson Carolyn Hennessy and Rico E Anderson and thank you to our listeners for joining us this evening all of us here on hollywood's hidden treasures certainly enjoyed hearing tonight show filled with fascinating stories from our guests and you know I have

1:23:59to just say let's remember that science fiction franchises are fabulous because they start from once upon a time they go into the future they were the future to begin with and continue to be the future and we're still learning new things from them and Star Trek is one of the most popular franchises in the world so remember stay safe stay strong and stay well I have enjoyed my time with you be sure to tune in next week to discover more of hollywood's hidden treasures with me Denel Dadegan and some of hollywood's finest right here on talk radio 790 K A B C