Terry Kelliher explains Public Access Media Project in relation to local political campaigns on Kell News with Peter Mingils

0:00Welcome to Building Fortunes Radio. Make sure you check us out at BuildingFortunesRadio.com. Along with Kisk, our keep it simple circle marketing partners, we are here to help our UMungus AM and UMungus FM radio customers build their businesses and make the world a better place. At Building Fortunes Radio, we know how much your business means to you and the people important to you. So join us to make the world a better place. Share the word, tell a friend, and go make a difference in your world. Now onto our show with your host, Peter Mingles. Take it away, Peter. Hello, everyone. Peter Mingles here. You are listening to us on the KELL News radio show with Terry Keller. My name again is Peter Mingles. We are here every Thursday 8.30 p.m. Eastern ish, if you will, to be able to discuss the progress that's happening with the public access media network project that Terry started dozens of years ago, both in his head and also out of his bank account.

1:00So for most people listening in, Terry's been working on this for a long time. And the latest whole thing got started with us involved is I made a phone call to Terry. I was asking entrepreneurs a lot of different questions about a lot of different things relative to the radio shows. And he was in a fortunate position for me. He was driving somewhere, so he said, I got a couple hours for you. So we started this conversation. And in the process of the conversation, I said, you know, I'm going to email you something. He said something. I said, I'm going to email you some follow-up stuff. And because you're driving, I want to make sure you remember my email address. It's real simple. It's Peter at peter.news. And I bought the dot news domain name in July of 2015 when I first came out. And I got a couple of different ones. And when I bought it for that specific purpose, so it would be an easy email address for me. And my customers to remember. So when I said the dot news, he said, really, you got a dot news, huh? And yep, I bought a lot of them.

2:01You know, I bought MLM dot news and travel agent dot news and health food dot news and a few other ones like that. I thought we're good for my industry. And he says, I got a couple of those two. And he started rattling some off. And I don't remember which ones he rattled off first. But I do remember that they were good. I'm like, wow, you got that one. That's good. And he mentioned another one. I said, yeah, wow, you got that one. That's good too. And then I got curious because as he was mentioning some other ones, I was like, what is to myself? I think buying a domain name is one thing. Doing something with a domain name is quite something else. And buying groups of domain names where you're kind of niche marketing or niche gathering, this is like beyond normal. So I said, like this guy is just not a gatherer or a hoarder. He's like doing this with a purpose. So I call them up. Or we, I'm sorry, we continue the conversation. And I said, what are you going to do with all these? And that's when the public access media network kind of concept started spinning out.

3:04And he was telling me what he was going to do. And I was like, I'm fascinated with this. And unfortunately, I said to myself and him, no one's done this before. So because no one's done this before, no one knows. Let's help him get some echoes. I think he got some back on us. I think he got some back on us. So I said, no one's ever done anything like this before. So here's the problem. If no one's ever done it before, no one's going to expect it to even exist. And if no one expects it to exist, how are they going to buy it or use it? So we said, let's start doing some radio shows. And this is like November of maybe two years ago, almost. And we started doing some radio shows. And if you've been listening in, you'll hear that we use this for documenting his progress. And it's been through several different evolutions. So besides the decades, I'm not exaggerating. Decades long thought process and domain name accumulation. He's been spending a lot of time on this.

4:05And we are so close to getting it finally launched. We're ending our pre-launch, if you will. And we'll get into our launch hopefully in the next month or so. But it's going to be kind of interesting. So we do this so we can kind of catch up with each other. And Terry can give us some ideas of where he is as far as the progress and anything else is going on. But I'm super excited about the potential here. So, Terry Keller, thanks for being here on your own radio show. Well, thank you Peter. It's always interesting to listen to the introduction, although I can probably give it myself now. Yeah, we've been doing this for about a year now. And it's gone through some fits and starts of, you know, in the process of getting it built. AI has changed the fate. We were just discussing this and we're just going to follow that. What we were talking about, which is that the whole industry of programing has dramatically changed in the last year and a half, two years.

5:24And continues to do that. And I got to know yesterday that, you know, Chad GPT was adding codex, which is a programming skill set to its tool fit. And I brought it up to Frank, who was the architect. And he says, yeah, that's a good one too. But, you know, he uses other tools in his found, because, and the reason that I hired him was he had experience with dealing with AI. Even before some of these changes came about with, you know, the expansion of AI and its capability. He built something called citizens portal AI for, he was the architect for that project for the former founder of ancestry.com.

6:28And I was able to bring him on to this project and to lead it. And, you know, it's taken a little longer than I thought mainly because it's a very big project. And it has a lot of different aspects to it that make it not a standard fit for what people would expect that you'd see in the market. And this is almost to the capacity of something like a, a news platform, a arrival, what X or blue sky, or any of the others are doing with a twist that we own, the real estate or the domains that give agency. That give agency to the infrastructure of our society, whether it be a bulletin or a group or a male client or chat.

7:37We have a capacity to meet a need and a niche, health education, politics government, business, religion, coming together in a communal way. A servicing the communities that local journalism has left and created an opportunity for us to fill. I can go on, but it's going to be a dynamic project and I'm looking forward to the feedback the members are going to give us. And I'm sure they're going to come a lot further than what I've been able to think up, although you've seen a lot of what I've done Peter. What do you think? Are we meeting most of what society needs from a new standpoint?

8:42Yes, and yes, and then some, but without complicating it because sometimes you can add so much stuff, it just becomes unusable. The way you've designed it and the way you've organized it is not overwhelming. So it's useful, but not overwhelming. So the categories that you have that might overlap are there and the categories that everybody would need are certainly there. So for the things that I'm seeing so far, it's really well designed and not intimidating because when you showed me some of the interfaces, I looked at it and usually I'm not a techie guy. I'm always not a techie guy, but when I take a look at something and it's too complex, my brain kind of glazes over and I just say, oh, forget this. When I saw your stuff, I'm like, oh, wow, this is cool. This is clean, it's neat, and it's something that, okay, well, this makes sense why this would be there. And I can see how this would tie into that. So it was really simple to be able to use. So very similar to your philosophy on the domain names where the domain name should tell you what it is.

9:50So you don't need an instruction booklet. I found that when I was looking at the interface, it was very similar. I don't need an instruction booklet. I could just look at it. It makes sense to me. Click on it and then move to the next level. So I found it really simple. Yeah, you know, it goes back to the keep it simple, stupid theory of design. You know, the members are going to really come out with some suggestions that I haven't thought of and I'm looking forward to that mostly. You know, it's really been, I'm going to be really, really despondent if this doesn't work because I've put everything into this thing. And it's, it really is a useful, it can be a useful tool to communities. And I'm hoping that they see it. Change is always hard.

10:59And I think this goes along with that as well. I don't think this is going to be as easy as we may think it might be. The reception is going to be, I think is going to be below and at first and then may pick up and we'll pick up in some momentum. And I don't think it's going to be the coming out of the shoot where it's going to be, you know, gangbusters. I'll be surprised if it is. But I think towns and communities are going to have to adapt to it because it's going to affect them in ways that they try to shy away from just the town chat itself. People have tried to do that and it had a lot of problems. Now AI can help in that regard because if you get into a topic of discussion in the chat, the AI has the ability to read what you're doing in a non-intrusive way because of certain words you may use.

12:15And say that discussion belongs in another category and would switch you automatically over to say something about health or education because we have just like we did with groups and bulletins and blogs and blogs and creating niches. We also do the same with topics of chat so that we can keep the topic of discussion on a level that is non-intrusive. You know, I have a LinkedIn feed and the problem, it's not a problem, but the reality is it's supposed to be just about business and education and marketing and fulfilling your job, need requirements, etc. Well, now it's become more like a Facebook, well, I shouldn't say that. It's become more like a community of thought and politics has invaded it and other topics of discussion depending on what you link your feeds into on LinkedIn.

13:36You're going to get topics of conversation that are off the chart of what it was intended. I'm anticipating that and creating categories for those chats and those discussions so people can keep it on target. I just read where chat GPT has gotten is pulling together a whole healthcare AI and we have a healthcare category in more in groups and tell the chat and telemedicine. I hope that we're able to utilize what chat GPT will be trying in its endeavor with healthcare where you can add your health records to the chat feature and it'll give you suggestions on how to live your life, change your diet, exercise,

14:44a whole healthcare plan can be realized through chat GPT and also work with your doctor to maybe see things that she doesn't, which is extraordinary, don't you think? Absolutely. There's a couple of different things that happened to me just this week that I'd bring up to you so you could maybe give us some ideas of how this would fit. I'll use my example. On Sunday night I did a radio show with a gentleman friend of ours who was a regular running thing on our Building Forces Radio Show and he interviewed a potential lieutenant governor for the state of Texas. His name is Timothy Mayberry and he's certainly underfunded relative to his competition but I could see someone like him so a candidate for a position of lieutenant governor of Texas which is a really powerful position and he's a good guy. He doesn't have a chance of winning on his own based on if it was based on raising money because he's so outbid if you will or outraised by the incumbent in there but this would be a great way for him to do one of several things, learn about the communities, share information about the communities and have people learn about him as well.

16:04And your platform could be far reaching and very effective because you get that personal touch to it as opposed to just having a billboard on a highway or a commercial on a television. So do you want to kind of address that on how someone who's running for a local office? Let's look at how campaigns are run today. A lot of money is thrown into media, a lot of false advertising, character assassination, the ability for a candidate to get local with a constituency is very hard. And now with being able to tell a conference and hold online townfalls, you would be able to niche target audiences

17:18depending on the topic and be able to, whether it be health or business or let's keep the government and politics out of it because really they're trying to hit the points of the community that are utilizing government and politics. And campaigning is trying to hit the religion, the arts, the community, the issues, the veterans, et cetera. And we would be able, or the candidate would be able to target the audience and hold an open forum just on that topic category and do one of those talks for that category. For all the towns within his district and stay on topic and be able to explore the needs because it'd be interactive of the constituents and be able to get the questions immediately.

18:25And I think it'll change the face of politics frankly. And this goes back, I'll tell you when I, how this really all started, I had read an article back in 95, that's a long time ago, what's 30 years ago. And the internet was first opening. And the GUI, the graphical user interface was just coming to work at Mr. Andreessen, was just coming out of college and he created Netscape. Do you remember Netscape? Absolutely. Sure. And they turned it into almost like a Yahoo, and then it, I don't know if that's sold or anyway. And then Microsoft came out with a free browser and, you know, did a number on their business model.

19:31And I think it's required by somebody, maybe Yahoo, I'm not sure I can't remember. And he, I just lost my trade off thought, this is, the candidate now will be, I remember now, I had read an article in the, oh, what was the name of, it was a, anyway, it was a, I read an article that outlined what the future of the internet and politics would be. Oh, it was the economist. It was a front page article, not an article, front page blurb about an article inside the magazine. It was the topic of the week, or month, and it was the internet and politics of the future.

20:34And I had also seen a random report on the future of the internet, and that was just as the glue we was coming out. And it explored how the internet would change the face of politics. And it has to a degree, but it really hasn't met the mark of what its potential could be. And I think with what the niches that we'll be able to cover, that we are covering with town committee news and state central committee news and, say, central, national committee news, it'll be able to network these individuals who are the foundation of our parties and, and be able to, rather than how we are present day with President Trump intimidating his party into submission.

21:37I think that the bottom up of the public access media network will be able to impact on hoping politics in a way that money will be not so significant in pulling people to the voting booth. They can spend all the money they want, but unless they're handing out $100 bills to voters, which in some cases I think they are, you know, Elon must spend $250 million basically to get Pennsylvania for Donald Trump, and that's how we won the election. I think that we can change that, and I think from the experience of dealing with the President Administration, people are going to be a little wiser as to who they elect to be their representative in the future.

22:39We had a great President in Barack Obama. I don't think that we were as attuned to Joe Biden as we were to. He wasn't as much of a communicator, and frankly he was very old, and he probably shouldn't have run again. As he said, he wasn't going to do. He gave no runway for the next candidate. There should have been a primary. There wasn't that would have been a candidate, and that allowed President Trump to become reelected, frankly, right? Yep. Yeah. Yeah, Kamala was the wrong, well, my opinion, Malo was the wrong person. So they probably could have done better, no matter how to better chance, but there's another story. So in essence, you know what we should do? Let's run our commercial break because we're running a little bit late, so we're going to do a quick commercial break. We'll be right back.

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24:40Ask about the KISC book and websites. The KISC, keep it simple circle, can be your key to success. Now, let's get back to the show. Take it away, Peter. Peter Mingles here with Terry Keller. Call.News is the domain name you can go to listen to all the previous radio shows we've done in the future ones as well once they're posted. We're talking about the project that he's got public access media network and some of the applications to this. So, Terry, I gave you one relative to politicians on a local basis and I can see where that really would be very helpful not only for the public to learn about the politician, but also for the politician to learn about his local area that he's going to be covering. So, I'll use an example, this lieutenant general person. Good guy, hard worker, you could see he's got a start in the right place, but may not necessarily be very knowledgeable about all the policies or all of the issues in the community that he's interested in.

25:40He might have had a pet project or two that motivated him to want to run, but he might not know anything about the fluoride in the water, the waste management projects. He might not know anything about the homeless facilities. He might not know a lot of things. So, for that candidate to be able to do some homework on his community that he's running and representing could really help everybody involved him win. And if he does, the community because he's got more access in the wider base. So, that was one of the things that I ran into this week that certainly showed me that it applies. And obviously every state has a lieutenant governor. Every state has tons of school board members and city council people and all the other things that might be necessary to get some stuff done. I'm tangling today with my flood insurance company. No one knows what they're doing. And it's crazy. And the things that I have to do to have my property reassessed to see if I even need flood insurance is just a daunting project.

26:49So, all of these things can be handled by you. Well, you know, be able to communicate with your neighbor that may be dealing with the same issue. In one of my businesses, I'm in the trucking business. And our insurance doubled last year. And, you know, if you can band together with everybody else that's in the industry and pool your resources and say, hey, you know, you guys are who's going to give us the best meal. And here, here's five different trucking companies. We'll all go with you if you give us all a good deal. You know, I'm not sure why, well, I know why because there's no one watching the store as far as policing how these companies are.

27:59Raising rates. Republicans are in place. And they're not doing any investigation. They're not really allowing. I mean, it's really the way Congress is set up the party in power. If they have the votes and they can keep their coalition together, they can very much. It's very much stifled in the discussion, the way that rules are made, the way that hearings are conducted, what legislation, what discussions are even had on the floor. It's really remarkable the way the Republicans have right now, by a very slim margin though, both the House and the Senate and the presidency. So, and Donald Trump has put his arm on so many people and raised so much money.

29:08The Republicans are afraid they're going to get primary and what I'm talking about providing the tools to be able to reach into the communities and be able to have open discussions about how they're being manipulated. This gives precedent for candidates to really connect with their communities before the money even enters into the race. It's going to become, you know, people are not aware of how their government is utilizing their constituents for their own self-interest. And I think that's, I know that's going to change. When this is going to be a payday, I know that things go in cycles. The next recession is not going to be very pleasant.

30:18And with it, well, like what Obama had to do in 2008, and I think he was unable to go as far as he wanted, I think those changes are going to have to be made. And the taxation of the 1% like Warren Buffett has said, he doesn't mind being taxed. He just, you know, he wants to see it go the right way. And I think those changes are going to be made very shortly when the next recession comes into play. And I think it's coming soon. Before Trump leaves office, I think we'll have a dramatic recession, which is going to affect the next election. And frankly, you know, the next election is about the change of Congress, who controls Congress in the Senate. And I think it's going to go at least the House will go Democrat. And that changes the whole structure of how government will react.

31:31So there's going to be a lot of, unfortunately, going to be a lot of hearings and a lot of investigation about the last two years by then, the things that the Trumps have done behind closed doors, even in front of us, is not very good for our economy or for our social culture. And, you know, the things that he's gotten away with, they were unheard of in any other administration. Wouldn't you agree? Yeah. No, he's definitely, he's definitely running it like he's a king. So with his executive orders and everything else he's got going on, he's really enough paying too much attention to the other branches of government. So which is either good or bad, depending on which side you might be on, on one positive note, relative to what Trump did, is I help my daughter do her taxes. And my daughter worked 15,000 dollars in earnings and overtime.

32:39And I believe, now don't quote me for tax advice, but I believe that the first 12,500 was tax free. So she got a bigger refund than she would have had she not had Trump not put the no tax on overtime and no tax on tips. So in some aspects, there might be some good things, but in some other ones, I look at and say, oh my gosh, like what's going on here? This is going to be devastating. So unfortunately, I can't give you many other positives from Trump. I went to go order something from, well, I'll just finish this one. I went to go order something online that I usually get from India. And guess what? I guess they, they can't deliver to me. Now the way they used to deliver to me, no, I have to pay a certain tariff tax. And they don't know what it's going to be, but I'll find out after I order it when the UPS man or the FedEx guys drops it off, but just said, oh, this sucks. So I went from, you know, I was getting a good deal on a good thing. And now I'm not because of tariffs. So it goes both ways, I suppose.

33:46Now, you know, I see that. And, you know, when it comes to you in that regard, you know, most for the first six months, companies were able to absorb it mainly through inventory or whatever. Now it's really hitting. You know, the thing is you can't keep up with what he's doing. That's, you know, is it 10% is it 50% is it 30% or, you know, he throws out. It's just very erratic. And I think that's why he does it so that it keeps everybody. Unsure of where the future lies. And I frankly, I think that's dangerous. And I know it's dangerous because, you know, the economy don't lie.

34:50Can't build a business on inconsistency. No, you can't. No, I mean, that's what just throwing the news business, you know, it just wasn't stable that there was a new media in town. And it was cheaper or more engaging than the newspaper. And you can get it for free. You didn't even have to buy it. It was just there. And, you know, the products obviously became you or us. And that was the problem when we realized how that turned out. And that created the room or the reality that if you want quality, you're going to have to pay for it in some form, whether it be as a contributor. And access to a platform like mine that gives you distribution or in a way that, you know, you pay a subscription or you become a sponsor of content or a topic in that regard.

36:00Here's an example. I went to the seminar on totalitarian government last Friday night, given by Hillsdale College in a, and it's a conservative school. They were given a facility in the next town over from me, a guy by the name of, I can't remember his first name is, anyway, his last name is Blake. And he was the founder of friendly ice cream. I don't know if you ever heard of that. It's kind of a new England. Of course. Okay. So they're in the south too? No. Well, you're from up here. You're from up here. So you know, yeah, anyway, where we went to go eat ice cream on date night. Yep. And he and his brother created this, you know, friendly ice cream.

37:07And he lived to be over a hundred. And before he died, he fought the property next door to him. It was maybe nine acres or something. He was owned by the demours who started this supermarket chain called big Y up here. It's very big. It's like stop and shop or whatever thing. But anyway, he bought this land and he knocked everything down and he built a replica of Monticello. And he gave the guy, he's the only guy. If you finish it before I die, I'll give you a bonus. And he was almost a hundred then. And he did live to over a hundred. And he he wanted to find a fire for it. And he wanted like four million that because that's basically what he add into it.

38:09He had about four million bucks into this building this house. It's very, very impressive. I don't know if you've been to Monticello, but it's basically the same, same layout and so on. But now, but it's a house. So, and what happened was nobody wanted at the number we wanted. So we put it up for auction and an eye doctor bought it for two million. That was kind of upsetting. So the doctor moves in and he finds that it's a little much to maintain and and and to, you know, have. So Mr. Blake offered to buy it back, which he did, a little bonus. And then he came up with the idea that I'll give it to this college.

39:10And they'd use it as a place to hold seminars and whatever and use the property to expand their college with this in the Midwest somewhere and have a facility here. So I've been going to these seminars somewhere on the CS Lewis and religion and politics. And this was what was on to talentarian government. I'm going to another one in a couple of weeks. Anyway, I met this woman who had been the past president of the probate court court association and we own probate court news and medicine court news. Just like we're doing with politics, we're doing with the court system and giving more journalism to what goes on in our court system, what crimes are being committed in our communities.

40:16So people are aware and, you know, and it becomes more of a different that when here's an example, when I was a child, it was absolutely you didn't want to have your name show up in the end field police water. Because all the mothers would know that you were bad news and then you would your social circle would go to shit. So that doesn't exist anymore. Well, it will with us. We're going to know what's going on in the end. Everybody will have access to pull up what's going on and and critique and give suggestions and follow up news on what's going on in the courts. And in the police water, who's given a ticket, who was arrested, who was arrested, whether, you know, all that, we may not, we may not publish names. I haven't determined that yet.

41:32Some journalism papers don't or new sites don't publish names of people who were charged until they're convicted, which is probably a good idea. But if you know that certain things happened in your neighborhood or your community, at least you'll be aware, you want to know if somebody was arrested for molestation or breaking an entering or something like that in your neighborhood, so that you would keep your eye out and know that these things are occurring. And give more access to what's actually happening in your area, making it readily available through our town bulletin web presence. Right? Very interesting to see how this is going to integrate into it.

42:37There's a lot going on on this project and it's going to take the cooperation of what she offered to do was put me in touch with the local people who are in the court judges and the court administrators. And to get their feedback on how this can best help them communicate to the public what's going on in the court system. And we carry that obviously to other aspects of society culture, arts, music, veterans, what's going on with veterans, I have a friend who I have breakfast with on Saturdays. Well, my gang from high school, we still get together and have breakfast on Saturdays.

43:37And he was went into the army and through in basic training got hurt, lost the use of his legs and he's been a very active veteran ever since. And there's a lot of fundraising and a lot of activities and this will be a way for them to be able to better communicate through the community calendar. And we have a veterans calendar as well and get people to help and volunteer and to do things for those people who put their lives on the line for us in our society. Right? Yeah. All good stuff. All good stuff. Well, I think we're finished with our radio show. So we caught up. I know it's progressing. We talked about ways that people would be able to apply. There are situations and learn from this and use it. And anyway, so we got another month or more probably before it's finally pre-launched. We'll call it.

44:40They did test it where we can go in there and start playing around. Oh, and maybe by then it'll start to get warmer outside. Maybe say to me. Let's start to get a warm. Let's do free cold. Well, for those people listening in, you just heard from Terry Keller. Cal.News is the domain name where we feed these radio shows in. You could listen to any one of them and we'll catch your buddy next week on Building Fortune Radio. Thanks, guys. You've been listening to Building Fortune Radio on BuildingFortunesRadio.com. Thanks for listening. Building Fortune Radio is part of the UMungus AM and UMungus FM radio network. Be sure to check out the BuildingFortunesRadio.com website to listen to your favorite shows. You can also hear us on UMungus Radio and wherever you find your favorite podcasts. It's been our privilege to have you listen in. At Building Fortune Radio, we wish you the success you deserve and are willing to work for.