Tajmon Robinson - Gas Station Clerk Shot Dead

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1:19Okay, where are you in between there? I was walking around trying to figure out where to stay because I knew it was on. Where did you walk around at? I walked around over there by Taco Bell, behind a tattoo place. Well, that was it. I got over there on Avenue Case. Okay, is that? Did you talk to anybody? No, I don't like talking to people. Going to any stores? So you were nowhere near Southwest Parkway and Taft. You know what I'm saying? Have you ever had a firearm? Yes, sir. Yeah. Yes, okay. Do you have a firearm when you went to Tyrick's house? Yes, sir. Okay. Where's that firearm, man? I don't have it. I know you don't have it. My question is, where is it now? I don't know. What did you do with it? I left it down. I swear it was on my ticket.

2:21Where did you leave it down there? I left it down in the house. You left it in his house? Yes, sir. And somebody took it? With my blitz. What kind of gun was it? Not sure. Not sure? No. I got out of the streets. I thought it was a man. I didn't know him. How long did you add it? Two weeks. Yes. Two weeks or more. So? What did it look like? To the black. That's all you know about it? Yes, sir. You know what? Kind of bullets were in it? 380. Okay. About 380 bullets. Matter of fact. No, I don't think about it. Okay. 380. Okay. 380 bullets. Matter of fact. No, I don't think about it. Okay. 380. Yes, sir. Okay. What was your phone number five?

3:21About two phones. Okay. One at HTC. Uh-huh. No one broke Android. Okay. And the broke Android didn't work at all? It worked. It worked. No, okay. Yes, sir. Uh-huh. No, okay. Yes, sir. Uh-huh. You have a phone number both of them or how's that working? Do you mean? Wait, I asked your phone number and you said? I know this. It takes out. But you know, it's on both phones. So you call either of them. I'm still up here with the phone. So, calling that number, both those phones are in. Yes, sir. Okay. Uh-huh. Who's your service with? There's a text now out. Yes, sir. On what? Okay. Yes, sir. It's a Wi-Fi. Yes, sir. Okay. Um. So you walked around from 10 p.m. to 5 a.m. and mainly in the Avenue K area.

4:34So you're not going to have those phones are not going to pick up on any Wi-Fi, anywhere else in town. Both, sir. And definitely not anywhere near Southwest Parkway in town. Yes, sir. Okay. Yes, sir. You're sure about that, but probably. Five, sir. Um. Where did you leave the gun in the house? I lived on the floor by the pillow. It's like he's big when you walk in his bed right here. I got like a pallet on the floor. So I had took under my pillow. So you left it under the pillow? Yeah, the bills were there. I don't know what it got on yet. Okay. So you left your gun under the pillow. When was that? Did you mean? When did you do that? Last night.

5:34A flat run? Yes, sir. So you had it last night and now it's just gone. Anybody else in the house that you think might have taken it? No. Okay. And you understand how serious this is. Yes, sir. That if you're lying about any of this. I don't know. I just know how serious you are, sir. And that's the story you're going to stick with. Yes, sir. Are you willing to take a polygraph? What is that? It's a lot of detector tests. I will. You will? Yeah. Okay. Are you willing to sign a concept searching on your phones? I've seen the search.

6:34Yes, sir. Okay. I'm going to talk to you for this one right here. Okay. Tasman? Yes, sir. Tasman. You're sorry about that. How are you? Okay. Where are your black and white Nike's that Tashiana gave you? I don't have them. Where are they? They have them with. When? Who?

7:34When and who? They have them with about COVID days ago. Okay. Yes, sir. Who? Who's got them now? Who did you give them? They had traded with the gun. Okay. The MDI have anything to trade for. Okay. What about your great work jacket? Great work jacket. Great jacket. Great jacket. You always wear it to work. I don't know where I wear jacket to work. I will do some work. No. We've talked to a lot of people. Yes, sir. We know what kind of stuff you wear when you go to work. Yeah. When you wear a great work jacket. I don't have a great work jacket. I had a navy blue jacket. Put it over. I have a great work jacket. All right. These are the photos that were put out to the news. We got multiple tips. Some of these people know you quite well. We described this jacket as being what you wear when you go to work.

8:37Yeah. We understand if you are desperate, needed money. You just got booted out of your apartment. You might have just gone in there and hit a lick. It's not me. The store clerk tries to grab the gun to protect himself. What you did, what you did. If that's the case, let's get out in front of this. I can't even go in there planning on killing somebody. But because the guy tried to grab the gun from you. And you shot someone in self defense. We don't think you went in there with the plan on killing somebody. Because it didn't happen that way. We went in there because there's audio on those video cameras as well. So we got a recording of the voice. We got that recording. We got print DNA.

9:38Everything that you touched in there is going to leave your DNA. Do you oxy? Your genetic fingerprint on anything that was touched in there. Okay. So we're working. We're in a spot right here. Did you do that? Did you go in there with a plan to kill this guy? Or did you just want to go get some money like you were trying to figure out what you were going to do next? You just got put out on your rear end. You had no place to stay. No money in your pocket. You just wanted to get a little bit of money. And if that guy would have complied, this would have never happened. But you defended yourself when he comes at you at that point. We know what's up. You wouldn't be sitting here right now if we didn't know what happened. This is your opportunity to tell us. Did you plan to kill that guy? Or did it just happen in the blink of an eye? Was it an accident? It was an accident, wasn't it? Yes, sir. Okay. And then that's why you don't have the shoes that you were wearing there anymore or the jacket that you were wearing at the time. Because you got rid of them. You got scared when you ran off.

10:39What did you do with the other stuff? What? The stuff that you took from there. What happened to those things? What did you do with them? I don't know. We probably dropped them. I couldn't do that with them. Right. So did you just drop them on the ground? I mean, we picked up some of them that were dropped on the ground. They're going to yield DNA because you weren't wearing any gloves. Yeah, probably did. But what about the rest of them that were stuffed in your jacket? I don't know. But where did they go? I said probably dropped them on the ground, boss. I don't know. What about the shoes, the jacket, the gun? I don't know. Don't lie about these other things like I left it under my pillow and now it's missing. Because we've already talked to the others. We know a lot of the answers to the questions we're asking you before we ask it. When we're just trying to figure out, are you a co-blooded killer that runs around town looking for somebody to shoot and kill a steal?

11:41Or were you just a guy that was down on his love? Just got kicked out of the only place he had to live. Didn't have any money for food. Didn't have any way to get around. And you were just trying to do something real quick. And if that guy would not, if he just would have complied, you'd have been out. And he'd be alive right now, right? He wouldn't have died. You wouldn't have shot him if he just would have done what you asked, right? Do you even feel bad at all about how things happen? I think you do. Because I think if you was a co-blooded killer, you just would have walked up in there and as soon as you pulled the gun, you would have shot him. And then you would have went and did what you did. It wasn't until he launched at you that you backed up and shot him. Do you feel bad about that at all? Why not? I'll do what you do. How's your chance to tell us? Boba Wallace here from 2311 Racing.

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13:50It's not going to change anything whether we go get the gun or whether we go get the scratch off tickets or we get your jacket or we get your shoes. What it's going to do is it's going to demonstrate to other people that are going to hear your story one day. And they're going to say he felt bad about what he did. He was remorseful, and he was willing to take ownership of what he did because he didn't want it to happen that way. That wasn't his plan. And to prove that I'm being honest with you, and that I didn't want this to go down this way, here's what I did. Here's how it happened. This is why it happened. Here's where you can find these odds that we're asking. If there's a gun out there, they could hurt somebody else. Honestly, I hate you. I hate you, I hate you, I hate you, I hate you, I hate you. I got to be going for another state. I hate you. That's what I don't care about. I don't care. I hate being at it. I hate being at it.

14:52Should I go? No, I'm going to go. Should. Right. But if there's a gun out there right now that could hurt some kid or somebody else make a bad decision with it, help us get it back. So we didn't going to hurt nobody else. No, we got it. Where is it then? I threw it away. Where? Where did you throw it away? Where did you throw it away? Because we're going to be searching for a long, long, long time. No, nobody's going to get it. I don't even have it. We're not going to get it near that gun. Well, I won't be. You ain't got a car. Would you take it with you when you went to work in Kwanah today? If I did, you would know. Because I knew I wouldn't work. And I knew y'all knew I was at work. That's where I went. Because I knew y'all were going to fuck me over there. I knew everything of them. I knew y'all pulled up and down. And when I walked that side, I heard a newer game of work.

15:53Of course you were because you knew what had happened, what you had done. And you felt bad about it. Has it been bothering you? It bothered me, but, you know, did you tell Tyreeke that it bothered you? I don't tell people nothing. I keep irritating myself. That's why I host up here. Because I don't trust nobody with me. That's why sometimes I do the wrong decisions. And for my trust and the wrong people. And leave me in a situation. And we ain't trying to get them in trouble. I don't even care. I don't care about that. Yeah, we ain't trying to charge them up with something. I'm already knowing what it is. It's like you can feel somebody real. You can feel somebody fake. You ain't slow. Never been slow. Stupid, maybe. But slow. No.

16:53Is there a reason why you picked that store? Yeah. What's that? I used to work there. Okay. Did you know the clerk? No. What did you work there? I used to go a few years ago. Wow. Okay. Did you quit or get fired? I got time. What for? Leaving too many cash and arranged. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Was it that store that you worked at? Or a different location? It was that store. Okay. And are these the pants you were wearing that day? Or did you get rid of them too? No. I got deep in the front. I had no clothes. Is this the blue hoodie you wore underneath the gray jacket?

17:55No. Where's that hoodie at then? All that under snow. What'd you do with it? Do it with it. Okay. I don't know. But I do it with it. I do it with it. That night on the way over to... Next day. To reach out. To reach out. To reach out. And that dumpster? No. The different one? Yeah. The different one. I don't remember. I was walking around. Having a new cape. How... Where you're at when you decide, you know, Hey, this is what I'm going to do. I'm just going to get a little bit of money or maybe buy something to eat or get a hotel room. I mean, what was the plan to do? We'll use the money for it. The plan was to go back home. Where's home? So to get enough money for a bus ticket or something? To try to go back home. Yeah.

18:55That was my plan. I had no idea. I wasn't meant to be dying. I had no idea what I was going to do when you got to the store. I got to the store. I walked in. Went to the bag. It is Ryan C. Crest here. There was a recent social media trend which consisted of flying on a plane with no music, no movies, no entertainment. But a better trend would be going to chumbacaceno.com. It's like having a mini social casino in your pocket. Chumbacaceno has over 100 online casino style games all absolutely free. It's the most fun you can have online and on a plane. So grab your free welcome bonus now at chumbacaceno.com. Sponsored by Chumbacaceno. No for just necessary VGW group void for prohibited by law 21 plus terms and conditions apply. Hi, this is Alex Cantrowitz. I'm the host of Big Technology podcast, a longtime reporter and an on air contributor to CNBC.

19:55And if you're like me, you're trying to figure out how artificial intelligence is changing the business world and our lives. So each week on Big Technology, I bring on key actors from companies building AI tech and outsiders trying to influence it. Asking where this is all going. They come from places like Nvidia, Microsoft, Amazon, and plenty more. So if you want to be smart with your wallet, your career choices, and meetings with your colleagues and at dinner parties, listen to Big Technology podcast wherever you get your podcasts. I ask for a Pepsi with a new wallet. He's all right. He's all right.

20:59He's crazy, isn't he? I know what come with his life. I don't have anybody. So like I say I'm afraid. I say I'm afraid myself. Do what I can't do. You know, I know it's the way for my life. Definitely. I don't know. I don't want to thank him. It's crazy. It's walking. It was storm. I was trying to take my turn around. I had a devil on my bed. I didn't want to lose. I did point where I'm going to go. Give me around somebody who really knows me that I was going to keep me out of here. I just can't keep doing it. I can't keep being around people who keep me out.

21:59Chiming like that. When I'm sure I'm too much love and I'm working. Back in my back. I'm very doing it. So. Love. All right. Love. Once I got kicked out from an old girl, I was. I love. I was mad. Did you think about it in the lick right there? Or did you just start walking? I just started walking. I just started walking. Trying to give them one thing. So. Walking. Good thing. I'm walking. I have no cake. It's a reason you went out. Did you call him or text him? Good. I don't know. Did you go by there? That's how you knew he wasn't home or what?

23:00When I went to his house. No. He told me when we were going down. So I didn't go there. I'd tell you about it for a while. He said he wouldn't be home. I'm going to go over there. Okay. So you walk. Do you just keep walking? I just forgot what I was going to do. I don't know the time I had. I was right. I just don't know the time I had anymore. Because I wasn't like I was rich. I could have worked. But. I felt I wanted to hire him. I was trying every day to get a job. He said it's more going on. It's stressful. It's crazy. It's like this when they want to want you to work. It's just crazy. I ride it by every day. Up and down the street looking for jobs. Looking for work.

24:00Can't get no job. Discrimination. Yeah. One day with my parents. I would think about him. I would expect me to be. I would feel like I am. I had a job when he was being in pedigmen. I had a job with him. I had a job with him. So when you got to the counter and asked for the cigarettes. What happened next? It doesn't count as a cigarette. He said. He said. He turned around. He turned around. Oh no. He said. When you pulled the gun. I pulled it out my wrist. I pulled it out my waist. What did you ask for? Tell him. I said. I said. He said.

25:00What did he do? I thought he would do it. He grabbed. He tried to grab. I don't know why he tried to grab. Yeah. I don't know why he tried to grab. Man. He's crazy. So he just reacted to that. I mean, it's just like. It helped you fail. I want to thank you. It could have been me though. And it might still be me. My turn might be me. Well, you know. It was him. He was just in a blink of an eye. And then what happens after that? He's in a panic. He's trying to fail. I only want to look down. I don't want to look down at him. I ain't looking to him. I'm trying to figure out what I'm going to do today. Yeah. One, nothing works.

26:00It works like he couldn't get the safety over. Couldn't get over. He'd be key to it. But I still ain't out over. Even if I had to keep. Because I didn't remember either. You were the average. You were the same when I was working now. So. I ran. Well, before you ran, what did you do after that? All right. Before I ran. Before you left the store. You kind of go back and forth around the counter. I go back and forth around the counter. I try to see. I was looking for it. Looking for it from morning. I was in a panic mode. I was thinking straight. I was thinking off. I was thinking backwards. Everything I did was sloppy. The whole time was sloppy.

27:00But even I do that. I knew it was going to happen the way it went. But he's it. I put myself in this his way. So he took the scratch off tickets thinking that maybe you can cash them out or what. To the scratch. I was thinking, okay. I knew I couldn't scratch them out. Because you got scanned and code. You could have had a half a million dollar winner in there and you couldn't have cashed it. But that's exactly what that's what I just ran. And I ran it and it kept funneling on my pocket. So I said, where did you run to? I ran it back to the back door. I did that door. And I ran it in one pocket. I ran it in one pocket. How did you leave? I ran it up in my pocket.

28:06I ran it up in my pocket. I ran it up in my pocket food. You stayed walking? I stayed walking. How much longer did you hang on to them tickets? Before the light bulb came on that you couldn't use them and you got rid of them. You obviously. So you're going to walk that door. I went out of the doggin' store, did you realize that I read I did? So then you're just looking for a place to throw them away, and then I was just, yeah, basically. Not throwing wood, yeah, we get rid of them, but I can't do that with them, but I ain't get rid of them, I ain't throwing wood, if they fill out my parking lot and run it. Well a couple of them did, but there was a bunch that were takin', a bunch were takin', but with the rock I was running, it fell out my clothes, and you can see on there, and it had a bell on it, it had my frame of state, it was on my hand on my pan like that, I had

29:08it on the bell. Where was your backpack when you were in the store? Whatever. Yeah. Did you show it up over there on the Taurik's house, a backpack? I was in the back of the ride, so you left with the garage, before you went over the store? I left everything in the garage. Okay. Yes sir. I know it's a difficult thing. No, I ain't no way I could ever, you know, be in your shoes, because of what you're lookin' at. I know I'm lookin' at 25 at life, but I think you did the taking ownership of it versus waiting for the DNA to come back and match after saying you didn't do it, it makes you look like, it would make you look like a cold-hearted killer like you didn't even care, but I don't think that's it. I think you were just a desperate man that was trying to do something that he thought was

30:12the next right thing, and that guy jumped, and when he did, you just reacted, and then after that, you panicked, and then after you panicked and you got your mind clear and you realized I made a big mistake, so I can't have any of this stuff that's going to connect me to the crime anymore, and I got to get rid of it, right? Yeah. Right in the rid of it. I pulled him burnt head, and what I ain't, I just want to think, it's like it's over with it. I mean, it takes it. It takes it. Follow it, mom. Mm-hmm. All right. No family, no nut. Even if I get to death, it wouldn't even matter to be real. I don't know. Well, we got detectives over there at the place that are tearing your friends' place up, looking for stuff. If you tell us where it's at, when we ain't got to go through all of their every single nooks and cranny inside all over that place, you can say that, but until we know where

31:15it is and we get it, we got to keep looking. We can't just take your word for it's not there, because we know you're connected to this. But if you say, okay, it's in the backyard or it's in the garage or I threw it in this dumpster or I did something to it, then we can go there and get it, and then we can stop our search on your friends' place, and they can get back home. So when I go look to find those clothes, those tickets, that gun. Oh no, man. Oh no. No clue. All right. Let me call them and see if they found anything over there. Sit tight. We back. Sure. There was a dumpster somewhere or dropped them off in a wooded area on your way back. Oh no. I'm just trying to probably decide if I'm sure, I'm trying to think it is.

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33:24Making where this is all going, they come from places like Nvidia, Microsoft, Amazon and plenty more. So if you want to be smart with your wallet, your career choices, and meetings with your colleagues and at dinner parties, listen to Big Technology podcast wherever you get your podcast. Did you know when you learned it though? You do. And you stepped up, took ownership, so that can be taken into consideration. But I, I'm already not going to face all these families. Yeah, yeah. I mean, that man was well liked by a long people. I know. I'm being good. Right? I'm already not. I'm not. I believe in God, but sometimes I do. Sometimes I do. I'm a woman right now. Like I'm just a woman, but I'm a few with what I want to do.

34:30It's the whole time I come up and you get out of here, I wouldn't know I wouldn't get out of here. I had a good feeling like I lost anyway. I'm sorry, I feel like you lost because I believe in God, there's always a win there. Always a win. But when I get sick of 10s, I don't know like that. I see those parts of the UI that's about human life under the existing. And then back my mind, I know for the placement that somebody is going to take my life. Well, he can forgive you, but you're going to also forgive yourself. Anything else weighing on you, you can release that. If you can remember where these clothes are or where you dropped them off or you dropped

35:32gun off, it's going to take a little bit more weight off your shoulders. The most weight on my shoulder is I live on one of them down. It's the biggest thing. I don't feel like I do right now. I feel like I told myself I was not going to be late. I'm just like that. It's great. It gave me a dark thought in a tough moment. That can happen to any of us anytime. I don't understand people. A small one, I'm going to do that. I'm going to be dumb. Everybody do that. Everybody do that. But I mean, I already know I was living there. I love seeing my friend. I mean, my friend. I can talk to my children.

36:33Who was your friend or what earlier your friend? Who were you talking about? It was your friend that wasn't really your friend. Sometimes I get to feel like people come around. I don't know what kind of habit. Some people come around. I feel like I did everybody down. I used to be so happy. I was enjoying all that. I ain't dead. Probably still. This flow is going away. I don't want someone bad out with me. It's not for me. It's a chain of the meaning. It's not for me. It's not for me. It's never been myself.

37:34It's like nothing else. Life is good. It's meaningful for me. I have a barbecue. I haven't found it. Yeah. It's somewhere I know. It's great. I don't know why I'm really good at prison. I don't know what else I know. I don't know what else I know. It's always the same chance. It's always the same chance. Oh, God. Oh, yeah.

38:34You might have to spend the rest of your life in prison. But there's things you can do there too. Keep your mind right. Get educated. Work for it. Yeah. I can't think about it. I love it. I love it. It was a point of me being alive. I can't be one of my love. I'm being a pretty little buddy of those. It's crazy, man. It's crazy. I got a question. True. So, y'all ask my friend about the gun. What do you say?

39:35I don't know what the nut is boil. Tell the truth. Tell the truth? Tell the truth? Inshodays without any idea. Mmmm. OK, am I interrupted something? No. Is there aOund? Well saffos, men that did Witau se here from the WWE. When it's just Me Between Matches is Dave 1-inch and that means it's Chumboutin. With hundreds of Casinos style games and new titles arriving weekly, there's always something fresh to try at Chum Debat Casino. Boos make it even more fun and have me about to get them all during my downtime ready for a fun way to chill out and enjoy a few minutes for yourself. Let's show them no purchase necessary VGW group void were prohibited by law CTS and C's 21 plus sponsored by Chamba Casino. Hey, I'm Josh Speagle host of the podcast Luna Tick in the newsroom. If you enjoy journalism that drifts into mild panic wild over thinking and a guaranteed nervous breakdown, Luna Tick in the newsroom is for you. It's news like you've never heard before. The only newsroom with a panic button, you'll laugh, you'll cry and gas

40:39been horror as the show spirals completely out of control. It's not just news, it's emotionally unstable. Luna Tick in the newsroom, listen today. Okay, so I call the guys that are out there searching the house they did find nine millimeter cartridge at the house still. So you missed one. But I don't see understand what differences it make at this point knowing the gravity of all that's going on and you take an ownership of this by you telling us where it's at versus not telling us where it's at. You know what I mean? Not that you threw out. I mean, cartridges and all cartridges still with it. They didn't know. A bullet is I call a bullet cartridge. So a bullet in. Yeah, that's what you want to say. That's like the bullet dump. Right. Yes. But where is it then? I don't know. Okay. Well, here's something else that they did find at the apartment or at the place. Okay. At the on our field

41:45street. Oh boy. Yeah. Mm hmm. This vest right here. This is the subject that robbed a four silk bang back in earlier this year. I mean, because this this person, they found they found a jacket over there that looks very similar to this and this traffic vest. And then they know from the crime scene that they picked up some DNA there. Yeah. But the DNA is not going to match you. Well, definitely not. Okay. I don't do this. That's just right. Because this one that happened was all you were going to do is get a little money and then get out and get a bus

42:46ticket and then get out of town and go somewhere and try to restart. That's what I was going to do. And if he don't lunge and jump and grab, you don't react the way you do. And there's wings sitting here right now like we are. Yes, yeah. Okay. Well, uh, detective Reigns, I got a search warrant for your DNA already. Even before we found you at the house tonight. So we're going to have a crime scene technicians is going to come in. She's going to take photographs of you and they're going to take a Q tip and swab the inside of the cheek of your mouth to get skin and saliva samples so that they can develop your DNA profile. And then it's going to be matched up against all the evidence DNA that we collected on Saturday. What? On Saturday when we process the crime scene, those places where you touch and handle that you pull secrets that you're driving. You're all over the good. My DNA was we don't have yours. We have the DNA you left behind. And you're a known standard that we're about to collect is going to be matched to that to prove what you're telling us and

43:50that we're not trying to frame you for something you didn't do or frame an innocent person. Is basically a frame? You don't know my you don't have my fingerprints? No, it's not. We have your video. It's me. It's not on this one. Yeah, I'm not this one. I can use you. No, what I meant to say was regarding the thing that happened to stripes. Yeah. So I'm just telling you what's going to happen. There'll be a crime scene tech that'll come in and they'll rub the inside of your mouth and they're going to collect DNA. It is part of our procedure that we do. Okay. So basically. I told it true. Yeah. You know, I've been full for telling the truth. You've been what? No. No, because it was. So here's the difference. I said, I told the truth. I believe my boys, I really say it like I trust them. I know

44:55that you say it like, you know, sometimes you got to make a life was murder. Open up. I'm sorry. So like, I feel like I was like to because you know, if I tell you like, even even even if you know, you need to be aware of what's recorded before we don't even know. You know, we don't release that to the public. Just like we didn't release the fact that lottery tickets were taken. We didn't release the fact that the cigarettes. None of that was released that the bad guy went to the bathroom first and then came out. All of that that you described as you did is what happened because you were there and you did it. That's the truth. The difference is we were sitting here trying to figure out, are you a co-blunder killer that

45:57runs around wanting to do this kind of stuff? Or are you a guy that's down on his luck and made a bad decision? And then when this person reached for the gun and you reacted, that wasn't your plan? Well, I've said, what would it really matter? Both. It does make a difference. If you had someone in front of you and they said, hell yeah, I killed that dumbass. And I wanted to kill him. And that's the reason I went there was to kill him. Okay, you got that person on one side of it. Then you got someone on the other side that says, I was desperate for money. I don't know where I'm going to sleep tonight. It's cold outside. I don't have any way to get anywhere. All I'm going to do is go in here and take this person's money. That's it. If they, if they comply, you would not have hurt them. But as soon as he reaches for the gun, it's him or you. Like you said, you just react, which one of those two people are you willing, would you be willing, if you were the judge or jury sitting there here and that, willing to say, this guy's really sorry for what he did. And when he asked for consideration, when he asked

47:01to say, Hey, I don't, I don't want to be thrown away. I don't mean, I didn't never mean for that to happen that way. Or the guy that says, pound sand. You know what I mean? That's the difference that it makes that you sit here today and you're sorry for what you did, that you feel bad. Floyd Kirk was that guy's name. He had a family. They don't have him anymore. Because in the blink of an eye in a split second life and a bad decision. And now two lives have changed. No, like this is what I'm saying. When I came already knew, like it was, I don't seem to be deep for me. Because I was like the bad guy with God is like, no, what are we to care about? No, young boy who's trying to make it out here. I don't know, I care that I'm only, I don't care about that. It would be real. The only thing I really care about that I took this man life for no reason. And

48:02I know that that's the reason why I did it. Then I try to do it because I knew for a fact, my life wouldn't be nothing to me. Because I, the eye part now, you know me, you don't care about that man. It's like, I don't know man. Like it's loose, loose, loose, it's where they know when I'm coming out of there. And I don't know when I'm coming out of there. I could have got it. It's the insecurity of death. Like, I don't want to go to no relationship. Right. I'm in Texas. Like, no one want me to get the needle. Right. We don't know that. Okay. We don't know that. And to say that that nobody cares about you. And we've been anything, but anything less than professional and encouraged to you. I mean, we, I mean, be honest, sir, you got to your job. You got to do our job. But we could, we could, we could be an asshole and do our job. All right. You can't, you can't. We didn't do that. We didn't do that. Because, because

49:05but like I said, like vibes to all, like, you know, you can tell what's about it. We don't care. You know, you can tell what's about to care. Yeah. If we didn't care, we wouldn't still be sitting here talking to you like we are. I can tell you care about Florida. Mm-hmm. Well, yeah, we don't want to see anybody. Anything. You know, guys working a job. He was close to you. And I feel bad for you too. I mean, I'm not lying. I feel bad for you. You out on your own. It's freaking free and asked cold outside. You ain't got no place to sleep. I wish that decisions were made differently. But we are dealing with what we're dealing with. You know, head on down to the mission. Don't tell the gun around anything else that we could to change the path. But of course, it is, but what's mission? It's a place where people don't have a place to stay can go and get out of cold and get something to eat. I went there. Not let me be there. I went there. I filed over application. I was not meant to be there like this. I don't want to be there and see how. So

50:08where I'm going. Yeah. Yeah. It's. That's it. It's a tough to get a lot of toughs. Very tough situation to be in. But like I probably I probably missed it off like, you know, too scared. I know what to say. I know what to do. I know what to think. I probably missed out this guy. My friend probably ain't even said that. My friend probably requires mouth. He going to be bitching out. I know. I'm just I'm this person I can't be able to. Even if I want to. I think that says again, like what I thought I've been doing these kinds of cases for this is my 14th year. And I've seen a bunch of them. And you can kind of tell the difference between the predators that are just rolling around and doing bad stuff and they ain't got no they don't don't even care about it versus someone that

51:09finds themselves in a desperate situation. And then all of a sudden fortunes, you know, fate turns and it's over. And it just didn't mean for it to happen the way it happened, but it happened. Yeah. So. All right, let me let them know what's going on over there. Do you got something to drink in a snack? Yeah. Are you good with that? I got cause of money. Let me see, I got to do some paperwork. But you got someone you can call. Who Hey, it's Cole Swendell. After I give everything I've got to land a perfect vocal, I usually take five before jumping into the next track. And I've learned exactly how to recharge in that time. Some folks grab coffee. I hit a quick good looks. Next thing you know, the break is just as fun as land down the track. A better break makes for a better take. Need a break? Let's chumble. No purchase necessary. BGW group void were prohibited by law. 21 plus TNC supply sponsored by

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53:27Do you want to make that phone call to your mom? You're going to have to calm down. You want to drink a water? I'll do it. It's not going to happen now. I'm going to have a call. Come on over there. I'm going to be mad. I can't do it. I can't do it. She mean it. I can't do it. She's going to be mad at me. Now over life. I've been taking a long pain over life. She loves her blood. It's the only situation. He killed a boy for it.

54:30She didn't do it. She didn't do it. She didn't do it. She didn't do it better now. That's why we get to it. I don't like that. I tell her I don't like that. But you don't probably tell a joke that what they say is what they do. They call me and say, I don't know if she'll do nothing crazy. I don't see them. I don't know if she'll do nothing crazy. I don't even have mirror. It's really crazy. No, she can't have you take part in the room. I haven't brightened her. I did when it's time for another lady. I'm really calling her there. We had to tap the wireless. What's the best thing that you've come down for a minute or four or kind of night?

55:32Give her that. We'll watch you. We can't take her to the room. We'll take her home and leave you alone for a little bit. That's what you want. Not around now. Show us a little bit. We'll talk about it a bit. Oh, come on. Show us a little bit. Well, if that's out of room, okay? It's like thymids. You should have never did it. Oh. Tell you're going to leave me in there, Bob? I just want you to give us 17 feet of each. You should have never did it. Okay, we're going to step in now and put the anti-takes there.

56:34Let's go sit in there with the washers. The essential stuff. The essential stuff. You get done and we'll call your mom and she'll touch her head. Do you want that? Yeah. Okay. Okay. I can't run my face. Hey, love. We got to take some pictures of you. I do run my face. We take pictures of you when you cry. Shh. All right. I need you to look at me. Please. Oh, my face, please. Yeah. Good. Yeah. Come on. All right. I need you to look at me. Please. Oh, my face, please. No, no, no. One face. Oh, yes. Good. Yeah. Come on. I don't think that's as quick as possible. Oh, yeah. I'm ready.

57:35Let me grab some other stuff. Here. Sit down there. I'll show you. She's not very tall. So she got there. Shh. Okay. So, uh, I'm going to breathe in there, man. You're going to carry the gun, all right? Okay. I'll see you. You'll see the gun in the morning. You can come in. Okay. I'm going to carry the gun. I'm going to carry the gun. Do you know your mom's number? Uh.

58:44Is there? I think. All right. I'm just going to do the bucket swabs. And then we'll do the bucket skips. All right. All right. These are just some cotton swabs that I need to do on the inside of your cheek of your mouth. Okay. Why are you going to do that if you are good with my DNA? I don't have. I need a standard. I like to take the golf course. I'm saying I don't understand. I'm like, if I'm going to go to jail for life, I might

59:44be able to have my DNA. I can't give my DNA. I don't get it. All right. So listen. Hear me out. Okay. Let me out. Got an engagement. A judge signed a warrant to get your DNA. Okay. What are you told us and cooperated? I didn't tell them. What you have told Detective Lofflin? I didn't tell you. I didn't tell you. I didn't tell you. I didn't tell you. I didn't tell you. No, no, no. What you told him the story of the detective. Okay? Yeah. Did you tell me there was DNA on the scene? Is it? We have to take your DNA to match it to what's on the scene. Okay. That's all this is. But I've seen it. If y'all already got DNA from the scene, what do you need? I didn't tell you. To match it. To match. To match your DNA. To match your DNA with the person. You already told us you're the person I've seen. But I'm saying it's what I've seen. I've seen it. Okay. You said I'm the person. Right? So if I'm the person, let me... I don't have any idea what my DNA is for. Like to make sure I'm the person. And I'm clear to the person. It makes no sense to give my DNA if I'm the person. That's what I'm saying. So you know how you play Go Fish?

1:00:44How you have to match. You know, you know, three fives or whatever. Well, I need that five from you to match. It's not Go Fish though. It's like... I don't know how to explain it to you. It's not going to matter. It's still trying to figure out why. I got it up. I'm going to do it. Okay. So can you open your mouth for me? We're going to have to do this a couple of times, all right? It's just going to rub the inside of your cheek. It don't hurt. I got to do it. Yeah. We have the warrant from a judge aside that says you have to give this. We have to... Yeah. Where's the warrant at? David. Yeah, it's on the surface. I'm going to tell you what. We're right there laying on his desk. Ah. It doesn't matter if this is your copy. So this is your name, your descriptors. And it says that we're going to get photographs of you. Buckle swabs. If we want hair samples and any other items to constitute evidence in this investigation. And it's signed by the judge today.

1:01:46Actually, yesterday at 1.30 in the afternoon. It's the size of the warrant. Ah. Yeah, for you. I'm sorry. Well, I'm so... We're not sure to know to search you. See, this is where it says what you're going to describe and get. We've got a choice. You can sit down and open it voluntarily. Or we're going to take it from you. That's what we're at. You don't need to make it that way. Okay. Have a seat. Have a seat. And she's just going to swab the inside of your mouth three times and then we're done. Open up for me. I'm sorry. I got to get the inside of your mouth. Okay. Open wide. Come and do it. Can you leave, please? All righty. You sat? All righty. Let me go get him for you. Is it okay? I'm going to tell you what was in it. It's...

1:02:46You already gave him a confession. Okay. What do you want to do this? After you told us earlier that you felt bad about what you did and you feel sorry about it, now you're going to give this crime scene technician a hard time for just giving her a job. I'm not a boss. I'm not trying to do it alone at the time of my life. Okay. And sit down and open your mouth. No, I can't do it. I can't do it. Why not? Nobody lied. Nobody's lying to you. There's a search warrant for you to get this DNA. We can either... You can either cooperate with it or not cooperate and we have to take it. Not taking it from you is not going to be pleasant. I'm saying it's taking it is. Is it against the law? No, it's not against the law. It's not against the law. It's not against the law. We got to search warrant. The judge has authorized to take it from you. I'm not lying to you. I just showed you the warrant. I don't believe it. We're the copy of the warrant.

1:03:46You're going to have to sit down. Okay. You're going to sit down. Yeah. You're going to sit down. All right. We don't play in an app. Open your mouth. Do you want us to help you open it? Or are you going to do it on your own? I'm going to do it on my own. Okay, open it. Okay, back it up. No. I'm not getting off you time has passed. I feel like I'll move. Can you please move? I'm gonna never do it. It's too many of you. I promise. No, I don't think you're telling the truth. Go ahead. You want me to do it? I'm telling the truth. Open up for me now. I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna do it for her. Cool. Man, what's up? That's just how I'm going to do it. Man, move, man. That'll do it, man. I'm not gonna be able to do it. Get up out of me. Do it. Okay. All right, there's one set. Two more times than we're done. All right, number two. Open for me. Open your mouth.

1:04:47There you go. Come on. Open your teeth for me. Then I'm gonna shove. I like this. No. Why don't we do it? We try to do it for you. I like this. No. Why don't we do it? We try to do it for you this way. It's crazy. I gotta go to court in a way. That's it. That's one. You don't want to do your first knee here. Yes, you don't want to slide it. I'm gonna do this one right there. He's going along that's going to help you let call your mom. Yeah, I know. I know. I could feel the crime of this. I can't resist y'all that. It needs to be the correct. It's not hard. No. I know. I can feel the crime of this. I can't resist y'all that. It needs to be the correct. It's not hard. It needs to be the correct. It's not hard, you know, is that. Did. I didn't have to do this cause of that. It didn't have to be this way. You did. Did. Did. Not a blank enough street. That's the best way to do that. She. She's just going to document and then close in real quick. I don't. Didn't you want to tell him this is happening? Yeah, I did.

1:05:47She's gonna take your shoes then or take your clothes or your shoes and. And so you're going to jail, I can wear this little suit. So we get you jailing, get you jailing jumper, okay? They just point your jeans and sweatshirts. I'm not good for them. I'm not good for them. I'm not good for them. I got one handcook. Not good for them. I got one more. There's one. I got one more. There's one. I got one more. I got one more. There's one. Oh, they're going to work. I got one. I got one. Sure, I got one. I got one. Oh, go ahead, man. Can you kick your boots off the ramp? Sure. Yeah, sure. And out, yeah. Two, you good? I know, right? I know. Oh, no! You good. You good? You good? You good? You're going to him. Come on. Can you push him here? Kick him off.

1:06:49There you go. There you go. Sit tight, bro. There you go. No. Can you put your one leg up here? Here. Take seat. Let me just fold. Leg up. Do you want to work? Not too much fat. Yeah, yeah. Put the board. I got bad knee. Oh, good. And then all of the... Pull the lever in. Put this in there. Or something like that. If you need it, you know, I'd do anything for whatever he's doing next. Shoes or no shoes? I don't think I need a shoes. No shoes? No. We'll put them in there. You want to put this... No, it's not. You don't have to if you don't want to.

1:07:49You can go like that if you want. I like it. Where do I get it? Just a gel tonight. You can get a gel jumper. Are you going to wear this? You're going to, once you get a gel, they're going to give you a better... I might say that all? Yeah, yeah. You can go just like that. I mean, it's going to be cold when you walk outside and we'll get a car when we go for it. Do you wear that? No, I don't. You go wear this. Listen, if you're going to be quite comfortable with this, I'm going to let you make that phone call, okay? So, don't change your attitude on this guy. I don't point at you on that. Right. You want to call your mom right now? Yeah. Okay. Boom. Yeah. You got the number? I assume I have a little feet, though. Drew McIntyre here from WWE. Wheeled in the claymore can be a life of chaos. When I'm not dominating in the ring, Chumba Casino is how this warrior takes a wee break.

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1:12:25Your call has been forwarded to an autumn. Are these cell phones or about text them? Maybe they'll know who it is. Can I see the phone? Make sure that's the right number. Yes, sir. Any other numbers you want out of here that I can write down for you before you go? Yes, sir.

1:13:26I'll go wrong number, you call that number. All right, let's go back. I got... You asked him what? He's in my pocket. What about that? I don't see any other numbers you want anymore. This will go with you then. Probably it's all that time's wrong. No, that's right. Please leave a message after the time. We have to do some more time. Maybe we'll make it work so we get time to write.

1:14:28Mama, one more time, please help me. Maybe she'll wake up. Maybe she'll wake up. We could say a crime and I'm okay, call it. I'm sorry, but the person you called... Shall I hear him one more time? Yeah. I mean, you're gonna be the first to me anyway, so they call back. I'm sure they call back. I'm sure they call back. I defer it. I know a number.

1:15:28You know a number? Yeah. Who is this? My grandma. Johnny Hawk. I'm sure you're not. I'm sure you're not. Can I give you a curse? No, you're not. Okay, tell me now. Hello. Sorry, I missed you. It's okay. I'll keep it on and give it a few more minutes and we'll call back again. Sure, I'll turn on. Have a seat if you want to. Can I drink water, please? Give me a drink.

1:16:30I'll give you a drink. I can't move the can. Look, I'm looking for somewhere. Well, no. I said, you look familiar for me. Oh, right. Right, we're in the router. That's why I just assumed you know it from the router. You go to the router? Yeah. That's great. Yeah, you go to the router. But I still... There's a lot of teams out there. I'm a teacher. Coach. How many years you go to the router? I ain't getting grades away. I don't know. My senior year. I started my senior year. My junior year.

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