Summer House Season 10: Episode 8

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2:05I was like, dare I say back in the day it was worse. Because he basically rated her and then like gave her a ring for a whole season. I thought we were gonna get what we got and then the Carl fight. And I was like, oh, okay, the Carl fight is coming because like, that's how this has to be bad. Is he's fighting not only with his wife in terrible ways, but also his friends. No, I was like, I mean, I was, I mean, I've shocked constantly. It's terrible. It's gross worst episode in 10 years. I think if anything, it was only the worst because Amanda seemed most affected. That's true. But as far as just Kyle Cook goes. What he said. I mean, I think he's been calling her a dumbass bitch for a long time. No, I've literally rolled the tapes. He says the exact same thing whenever he had that like tantrum about her swimsuit. That was, that was worse. Yeah, like bar for bar, same, same things. Well, before we get into Kyle Cook's supposed worst episode of all time, check us out on Instagram, TikTok, YouTube and Patreon.

3:05All the links are in our description and please be sure to rate, review and subscribe. Okay, let's get into it. So previously on Summer House, we saw Ben's ass. KJ and Dara are hot and heavy. Even though she also kind of flirted with Ben at the beginning. Kyle did not invest in soft bar and kind of Amanda have tension. Okay. So I find my first error almost immediately. Summer House put Friday, July 31st, 10.06 pm. That is incorrect. This Friday was August 1st because the next date is August 2nd Saturday. And that's how the calendar lines up too. Yeah. Because it said July 31st and then when it said August 2nd, I was like, wait a second. So I went back and it was August 2nd on the Saturday and the Friday was August 1st. So come on guys. All you have to do is look at a calendar. That's it. Like, give me the job. Pay me. But look at the calendar. You would have called that out.

4:05I feel like had it been wrong last episode. So like they all they had to do was use the template for like last week's episode was probably wrong. They probably said July 31st. It was probably wrong in the sense that I just didn't know the way I catch it is. Like I write it down. And then when I see August 2nd, I was like, a whole day one. Yeah. And then I'm in. You can hear us in when you notice an error together. But like, yeah. Bravo, just fucking hire me. I will look at the calendar. It is that easy. Anyway, all we need is to watch the episode three days before it goes live and Alicia will send in her. Literally. And it's not going to be that much. No. Okay. So we go out. Everyone is so much fun. And then at 12. 38 a.m. on August 2nd. Because now it's the morning. The housemates all make it home. It's time to party in the house. Ben carries Amanda in, which I find interesting because I still think he wants to fuck her. I don't care. All he's doing is giving me more evidence that he wants to fuck her. So Kyle goes to DJ. We have a dance party. Everyone's falling over and on the ground for some reason. I love it. And then at 1.02 a.m.

5:07Kyle's DJing alone. Well, everyone else is outside. They start by running around. Yeah. Wes also throws his shoe at Sierra. And then they were singing in the hot tub talking about sex and choking people during sex. And Amanda's never had angry sex, which is kind of crazy because I can't imagine not fucking Kyle cook angry at him. He doesn't get angry that often though. That's true. And when she does get angry, they don't have sex. That's also very true. So Kyle inside is upset that no one stands into his music. And Amanda is having fun outside and not inside where he is. And he feels ditched and isolated and alone by his wife. When he could literally just walk outside and go hang out. Yes. He's not mean where it's that birdcage that has just two bars of like somebody holding on to. Like just go outside where all the people went. The vibe shifted. And you have to understand as a person when people don't want to sit at a DJ booth and blast music. Like they're all talking having fun. But it's like a chiller environment than what they had at the club.

6:09What they had in clubs sent it. Like we're winding down. I think Kyle's a type of person where if it's not his idea to do it or he's not the center of attention. No one had like he doesn't want to have that kind of fun. So it's his idea to do DJ stuff and he's the DJ. And then no one wants a DJ they all go outside and he's like bow to my idea. I don't like that other people are having fun without me. Good point. Yeah. Also I get that like when the vibe switch it sucks if you're like alone at some point. But all you have to do is like go out. Like you live in this house. Just go outside. Like bring to the other people or go to bed. Like it's not in a bedroom with a closed door. No. We are to walk into it. They're literally sitting outside in a common area. And the other thing is there's only four people. Everyone else was gone to bed. So what are you missing? You know what I mean? Like if he really was upset he could just gone to bed. But that's not what he does. So instead at two oh one a.m. He goes outside with a speaker and starts blasting music and dancing in front of everyone.

7:10Which is just a man to Sierra West and Ben. But they're not reacting well to it. They're not like yeah like party vibes again. Again the mood is let's sit and chat. We're sitting outside. We're chatting. We're drunk. We're hanging out. It's a summer night. Someone should build a fire. Like what are we doing? You know what I mean? You know we don't need a bunch of music. But here's the other thing Kyle. If he's going to make an entrance everyone has to be like yay. Kyle's here. I'm so happy we were having no fun before Kyle came. We hated it out here. Thank God you're here to sing today. Kyle came out and blasted his stupid song. Right? So then he looks at Amanda like unprovoked and goes hey Amanda way to support me. And Amanda's like what are you talking about? I am supportive. And Kyle's like what? What? You just bringing out a speaker? I'm supposed to. What? You DJ in the living room? You were DJing that. What was I supposed to do? Get a grip. So Amanda's like I am supportive.

8:10And Kyle's like no you're the least supportive wife in the world. And then when Amanda he starts to walk away and Amanda tries to be like Kyle. You know how she normally does. What if guys catches that? It's either West or Ben and is like wait did he really just say that? Yeah I think it's West is kind of because this is West is friends with Kyle and this is the first time West I think has seen this or acknowledged it. Like usually they're in the big group right page and is yelling at Kyle to let Amanda have a swimsuit line. West isn't there seeing it. Yeah. I think this is the first time where like West has to be defense number one because like that page is there and Sierra is more of a comforter than like a fighter. And this is the first time you see it start to finish. I think you can come into a fight you're like I don't know all the details I'm not going to get involved. Okay so yeah she's like Kyle and then he looks at and says fuck you and West goes Kyle because he's like holy shit. And Amanda's a man of per usual is like let's just go to bed. Let's just ignore it and Sierra is like absolutely not are you okay?

9:12West is like gobsmacked. He's like I'm going to go talk to Kyle because that was crazy. And Amanda says to Sierra she's like and Ben I guess. She's like I didn't want this like I don't want to talk about it because like what's the point he's not going to take accountability. It's just going to make things worse at this point like who cares? Yeah because they have Kyle's birthday the next day that like when you have a big event it is easier for that moment to sweep it under the rug and once you start sweeping things under the rug it's a lot harder to like address the issue so the status quo is just like keep pushing it under the rug and like I don't want to acknowledge it. It'll cause a bigger fight if we like bring it up tomorrow morning. Yeah I also and I don't want to like put this on Amanda and Kyle. I was just saying it was this was kind of triggering for me when I have been in a toxic situation and it's been like I don't want to talk about I don't want to bring it up because then it's going to be worse for me on the back end. Whether that be just like verbally emotionally mentally physically doesn't matter

10:13but it's almost like a like the beginnings I would say of like a abusive cycle. And I'm not saying Kyle like physically abuses her I don't think he does but I think in a sense this is like emotional abuse. He just gets upset so like there's a cycle and she's like I know it's wrong and I'm not okay with it but like there's nothing I can do which is sad. I've got a lot of people are like why go through it twice? Why bring up the fight tomorrow and like restart it? Like I'd rather just end it but then you just like keep taking it because you're not pushing back and you're not like getting them to stop their initial behavior. You're just trying to mitigate it once it does start. Yeah and if it never stops and all the past times it's happened like what's even the point at this like there is none which is used to it. Like she knows the cycle like it's predictable so it's a lot easier to handle. Like the cycle that you do know rather than opening a box of like yeah we're confronting him the day after and so like what's the point of going down this like you don't know what this path is going to be and we're hosting a party.

11:14No it was terrible. I was sitting there like sweating and I was like oh my god I'm going to don't do this. Don't just ignore it and I know we've been ignoring it for like a really long time but like I don't want this anymore. Yeah. Like her putting it in words. I was like oh I made it. I think it's easier for us to acknowledge how bad it is. Now that they're over to be like no this is really bad because I see why Amanda wants to ignore it. Like you've got that party like all this stuff and I understand her being like everybody just stop like I just want to go to bed like let's move on because if everybody else keeps ringing it up all this stuff but now that it's over it's like no like you got out of that like that was not okay. I think that too because now it's over and we at least for years have been saying like girl the worse and divorced and you know what I mean? And like she never did in previous years so it was always like what's the point of us even like divulging into it but now that we know it's over it's kind of like okay we feel safer to do so. It's the same how we started this episode of like oh this isn't that bad we've seen worse from Kyle.

12:15We had so terrible. Okay so Wes goes talk to Kyle. He's like what the fuck dude? And Kyle's like I felt like saying fuck you to her because she doesn't talk to me all day or way Ben goes to talk to Kyle. So Ben's the one that's like hey man. Yeah the DJ booth. Yeah yeah they're at the DJ booth. So Ben's like what the fuck and Kyle's just like I wanted to do it because Amanda didn't talk to me all day. And then Ben is like well what did you say to her today? Love that. Loved that Ben because like stand the fuck up and if you want something go make it happen why does she have to be the one only putting in the work. And like that's so stupid she's in talk to you all day. You go talk to her she's your wife of five years like I don't even have so many years at this point together. Ten. And Brandy even says like she's been hanging out all night. It's not like she like went to bed like she's been here. And I was like well she wasn't hanging out with me and Ben's like so where were you? Yeah loved that. Yeah because we've all been together.

13:17So if you wanted to hang out with her you can also hang out with your friends like she wasn't with Randos at the club. She didn't go to dinner alone like she's just generally been around. So all you have to do is participate in the group hanging out with your wife. And then fucking victim Kyle has to be like everyone's just against me. No one sees my point. Whatever. So then Wes goes to check it up on Amanda. She's in her bathroom and he looks at him and he's like hey nothing happened to like warrant that behavior like that's so crazy. And Amanda's just like thank you for understanding and then she starts crying. And Wes is like this is the first time I've seen him do this like unprovoked. And Amanda says this is tame. Like this is this is nothing. But she says like this whole situation is just a lot like emotionally it's eating at her and she even says she's not perfect. But she's been dealing with this for 10 years and she like breaks my heart because she says like a part of her believes that this is like the best she's ever

14:18going to do so she just deals with it. Which that really reminded me we talked about that a few episodes ago. Like that she must have felt that throughout the years and so to hear it be confirmed is heartbreaking. I know it just also makes me question like what is Kyle fucking say to her to make her believe that? Like to me any good boyfriend should be like you are out of my league you get anyone in the world but like thank you for choosing me. But Kyle must be like who else has ever been Kyle. Kyle is always needed to be the center of the show and Amanda is his support, his audience. So even if he's not necessarily saying super derogatory things to her he's not saying anything positive. He's making her feel that way. Yeah and over the years even if he's not again outright saying things as you get worse and worse in these relationships your mind is also your own enemy. So she is building these things in her brain whether he's doing it or not. And he's not outwardly supporting her.

15:18Any time she's wanted to do anything for herself he has gotten pissed off. So that would in turn make you think I'm worthless. Like what's the point of me ever reaching for anything? Let alone another partner. Like these are just like dreams and like businesses she's ever worked with after. So why would she ever think that like she could do partner could be amazing to her? Yeah it's heartbreaking and she's like crying in this bathroom. And then Kyle walks into the bedroom and Wes finds him. And he's like hey man go say your sorry because like nothing happened outside for you to say that to her for no reason. And Kyle said Amanda gave him fuck you eyes. Die? Wes is like the craziest thing I've ever heard. I feel like thank God for Wes because he is us he's like that's ridiculous. She didn't do that what are you talking about? And so he got like Wes is just like going the fucking bathroom and apologize. So Kyle goes in the bathroom and he apologizes to Amanda for saying fuck you.

16:18But he just feels like she's not paying any attention to him. And Amanda just goes okay because she's done she's over. And Kyle says she's not making an effort and Amanda is like what is effort to you? What do you want? And Kyle says conversing and talking. So Wes finds Ben and Wes is like yo Amanda just cried to me for like 20 minutes. And Wes says like with friends he has a history of being conflict avoided. But he has to be in Amanda and Kyle's mix because they all live together and he cares about both of them. And if Kyle's being a dick someone has to have Amanda's back. Which like don't make me like you more than I already do. But I think that shows how bad this is like this is the last thing that Wes wants to be doing. But when push comes a shove he will get involved. But he can avoid being involved in any way he will. He will also do that. So Kyle and Amanda talking back in the bathroom and Amanda is like so if we were out you expect me to hang out with everyone.

17:24And Kyle's like well instead of hanging out with everyone of my friends maybe just hang out with me. The my was crazy. The my was insane. That was crazy. I caught it and I hate that. Same. Because what do you mean my friends? We've been doing this show for 10 years together. I don't care if you knew them first after 10 years they're our friends. Also even if it is just your friends you don't want Amanda hanging out with them. She can only speak to you in what world exactly. How do you throw that in your wife's face? Yes Amanda is like okay so you want me to hang out with you. Well you hang out with random people so Amanda is just basically an accessory to Kyle at this point. Which I got at that that like he wasn't hanging out with their friends. I went to Randos because he wanted the attention of strangers. And Amanda was with their friends and somehow Kyle's mad at her.

18:27Like again if you just wanted to spend time with her or your friends you just had to show up and hang out with them. Very easy solution. But he blamed hanging out with strangers on Amanda ignoring him. That's why I had to leave. And I mean just like that's not what you just said though and Kyle was like that's how it is. And Amanda is just okay Kyle. And this is where Kyle says you're a fucking dumbass bitch. And Amanda is walking out of her room going okay Kyle. I'm a dumbass bitch and she finds Wes and Ben standing there. And Wes tries to be like hey come here and like give her a hug. And Amanda pushes her his side and is like I'm making soda water. And Wes and Ben are just like what the fuck do we do. Kyle's in the bathroom complaining alone that Amanda ignores him. So Ben goes into the kitchen to find Amanda trying not to cry at the sink making soda water. And Ben says he's known Kyle for a year. He's never seen the side of Kyle and he knows like Kyle is stressed but this is unwarranted. He does also say that Amanda like prods him and like that's why he reacts which I didn't love that.

19:32But I do like that he does distinguish in this situation she did absolutely nothing to provoke it. And then Wes finds Kyle in the bathroom. Kyle tells Wes that Amanda has spent more time with Wes than Kyle in the past six months. And then Amanda walks into the room but she just shuts out the lights and goes to bed because she's over it. And Kyle's talking about oh Amanda said fuck you Kyle. And Wes is like no she didn't you said fuck you to her. The rewriting of this is crazy. Kyle's like no I said fuck you back and Wes was like no there was no original fuck you from Amanda. You were the original fuck you and Kyle says there's always a fuck you. And Wes is like no there's not it was in your head. Like Wes is real time being gaslit and he's like wait a minute this is insane. Because Kyle always has to be the victim. In every way possible in his own head he's the victim. And I get like you make yourself crazy but he goes into the situation being the victim. And then when he's rewriting the story to everybody he has to be the victim.

20:34He's always the victim. Kyle says Amanda hates him and doesn't talk to him. And then Kyle starts crying and Amanda's under the covers crying. And Kyle's talking about how Amanda hates him and Wes is trying to tell him like this isn't going to help. And then Wes is like I'm just over it so we really quick checks it on Amanda. As she's under the covers and is like hey I'm I'm so sorry. Text me if you need anything which I think is like so cute. So now you know he was stress leaving that room too. Like what else is going to happen? I like it because even though if you believe like okay Kyle would never hurt. Like physically hurt Amanda you just kind of don't know where things can go. So I like that Wes is like text me I'm here like you're safe. I'll make sure you're safe. Even if like it's nothing because I've been in situations where it's like nothing. I'm not scared but it's just nice to have someone else being like I have eyes on this. You're safe. Yeah because I don't think he's going to physically hurt her but it's the stress of things continuing to build.

21:37And it's like hey if things go further with that like argument sake. I'm in. I'm your way out. Like I come back. You come to my room. Like I am up. I'm your person. Yeah. So then it's her day August 2nd at 8.55 am. The house is starting to wake up. Lindsey calls Jama. Kyle's up. He knows that there's no excuse to what he said to Amanda but he says he's only human. There's always the vibe. He always gets the cold shoulder and steady jabs and he used to think it was all in his head. And then he's watched the seasons back and he sees all these jabs from Amanda. Which I'm like if we're going to play these clips let's also play Kyle's jabs in Amanda. I thought the same thing like Amanda's not amazing. You know like that hurts to hear your partner I'm sure but those are ingest types of jabs. Like it's for the joke and is it fun to be the butt of the joke? No. And so like could you talk to your partner about that? Yes. But like Kyle's are like cutthroat who she is as a person.

22:38Yeah. Constantly. The one that's stuck with me is when like Amanda was telling the girls and she's like I'm having less patience. Especially for Kyle and all the girls are like hi yet. Like that's just girl talk and like I'm not going to stand for the misogynist who are like walk room talk. It's not the same. It's like not the same. She's just hanging out with the girls and Kyle has four century for not centuries but basically a decade. Oh a decade. A decade. For a decade at this point we have watched Kyle break this woman cheat on this woman. Make it seem like her feelings are no big deal. So if she wants to sit there on camera and be like I'm sick and tired of Kyle. You stupid. Then hey. Do whatever keeps it going. Actually how she shows up to the situation. She's saying she has less patience whereas his attacks are on her. Her. About how she is lazy. She doesn't have a personality. She doesn't have drive. Yeah. I just I think it's absolutely ridiculous how we didn't show any of the shit Kyle has said to Amanda.

23:42That's why don't worry I'm rolling those tapes. So Kyle says he's just sad. May I also say usually the way Amanda is like when she's saying these jobs are like reacting to Kyle. There's usually deeper issues that she has come to Kyle about and he refuses to change. Yeah. Which is like cheating or staying out or DJing or whatever the fuck. And then when she's like I have less patience with him. He's like she's coming at me from nowhere and it's like no she's we've discussed these. We know all the reasons that that's the thing is we know all the reasons that Amanda has issues with Kyle. She talks to Kyle about them. She does talk to the audience. Kyle refuses to say anything out loud and reacts off of Amanda's fake fuck you eyes. Yeah. Fuck you eyes is crazy. At Amika Insurance your time and peace of mind matter. Bundle your auto and home coverage with us and enjoy savings that make life a little easier. As a mutual insurance company we're built for our customers.

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25:51Plus some wise cracks. Find us on one of those apps where people listen to podcasts. KJ and Dera are texting. She's on the way. She's going to hang out at the summer house. Mia checks in with Sierra and then Jesse grabs Kyle for a gym sash with Carl and KJ. So Mia and Sierra are talking and Mia is happy that Sierra brought up the conversation. A dinner about like the racial blowback that Sierra has received. Tierra says she's just surprised she didn't cry more. Mia just appreciates that the house was holding space for the conversation and not interacting, saying things like I know how it feels or what it feels like. But at least like the people they live with can just acknowledge what's happening. Yeah. Sierra is at the point where if she needs to be close friends with like white people, then there needs to be honest conversations about what she's going through. Because it's uncomfortable and race is uncomfortable. But it's more uncomfortable for Sierra to have to keep it to herself to make other people feel more comfortable. And that should be a priority that is accepted when you are friends with people of color is to understand or listen to their experiences and make sure that they are safe and to support them.

27:01I hope that everybody who is a person of color and interacts and is in friendship with white people has that. I know that isn't going to be every experience. But I hope that like this conversation that we got to see on our televisions helps further, you know, other ones in real life. Yeah, or helps. Again, like TV is a good way to educate yourself. Like now white people can look at this and be like, okay, this is what people of color want. This is what my friends want. Yeah. So if you didn't know before, now you do. Very good point. And Sierra saying something has like made Mia and KJ also feel seen and Sierra and me agree like they would kill for KJ. That's their. Oh, I love him. I love all three of them. They're amazing. So Lindsey and Amanda are in the kitchen and they chat about dinner and how Lindsey and Carl were on good terms and that's just great. And then Lindsey's like, oh my god, Amanda, what happened last night? I just like went to bed. I was so tired. And Amanda's like, I don't even know Kyle was being mean.

28:02He called me names like Wes had to talk to him. But she downplays it is so sad. So sad. And Amanda shares she like cried three times. And like, Kyle's just upset that she's not hanging out with him. And Amanda knows like Kyle's going through his own ship, but it's not an excuse because when she was depressed, she didn't attack Kyle like this. Really good point. And Lindsey's like, dude, like fuck Kyle. You're like, whatever. And Amanda's like, but we're going to have a good night. Like Kyle's birthday and Lindsey brings up that Amanda just compartmentalizes. And Amanda says she knows you. She has to. She's an expert. She like disassociates at this point. She's like, I'm not here. Which is so sad. It's a party where filming a show. Like there's so much more going on than like you and I whatever have to deal with in these experiences. Like, which breaks my heart for her. Like, perhaps are in this even more. 100%. So then Sierra and Mia continue chatting. Sierra is over the way that Kyle speaks to Amanda. And her gut reaction is like Amanda shouldn't have kids with this man. Which, oh my God, saying 1000%.

29:03Thank God she like put the pause on it a few years ago. Maybe two years ago was that when she was like, I'm not ready. First of all, thank God to both of them. Thank God Kyle for years was an irresponsible adult who claims to want children, but can't handle it. And thank God Amanda finally put the kebash on it. Because that was the only time Kyle did want kids. Was after she said no. No, no. So thank God for both of them, honestly. But me and Sierra just have like no idea what they're doing together. And so it's 11.19 a.m. The boys back from the gym. We got grocery sponsored by Uber Eats. But let me tell you those Uber Eats bags trash. Bad advertisement there. We can't even bring it from the front porch to the kitchen without those bags breaking. And I know Uber is a billion dollar company. So at the fuck Uber you got bad bags. Get better bags. Call them out weak. So Lindsay talks to KJ about Derek coming. And KJ just isn't in his head right now.

30:03He just like doesn't know what to expect. He's a nervous Nelly this guy. He's got a lot of school. I know. I am like this nervous when I'm also hosting someone. Because you are worried about both sides of it. Like your friends liking the person and the person like having a good time. You know, yeah, your friends like this person though. I know. What's wrong with this group? That is what helps. And so I am shocked at how nervous he is considering like. Yeah, Derek A knows everybody already in this house. And B. Yeah, she has a major ally already with West. But the cameras of it all like you've been doing this for a few weeks. She hasn't like and also she's visiting you as your plus one. That's a lot. And everyone knows you guys like each other. That's a lot. That's a lot of pressure. I know. But I think I think because this is like a normal like thing in the summer house. Like I watching and I'm like, it's not that big a deal. I get where KJ is coming from. But that's not normal to him. I know.

31:03He's like very nervous. And I just want to be like, you're good. Which Lindsay tries to be like, you're okay. Because she's like, do you guys say like each other in there? And KJ's like, yeah, we do. And Lindsay's like, oh my god, incredible. Like, what about the bend thing of it all? Because Lindsay's a producer at the end of the day. Yes, she is. And KJ says, oh, that was nothing. That was just Derek flirting. And Lindsay's like, oh, what did they talk about in Ben's room for an hour? And KJ's like, I'm sorry. What? I wish they hadn't put this in the pre, like the preview. Because this would have had me do the same. I would have jaw dropped right there. What are you talking about? What are you talking about? What are you talking about? An hour. Was this footage cut? Like, I actually like that. If like the editors are cutting this to like lead us on in like KJ's mindset. We should have just seen KJ go, wait, what are you talking about? And Lindsay being like, oh my god, I'm sorry. You're sorry. That would have been like, what the fuck did she say? See, see, just send us the episodes beforehand. We'll give you our notes.

32:04And then you can edit it to be better anyway. Like over trailers ruining episodes and like movies. Because like you should give enough away from me to be hooked and excited. But not give away what actually is happening. And we talked about this with Mormon wives. I'm sick and tired of people or them putting things in trailers. And then not using them in the show. Yeah. Don't do that to me. Okay. So yeah, KJ's like, what are you talking about in Ben's room for an hour? And Lindsay's like, oh my god, I'm so sorry. According to Bailey, Dara went into Ben's room and they were in there for like an hour. And then Lindsay I think conveniently leaves out that what Bailey said, which was that Dara went into Ben's room in one outfit and came out in another. Because Lindsay is like, I don't know now. And I've already stressed this man out enough. I think that's it. If he wasn't stressed out or if it was Carl, she'd be like, whatever. I'll ruin this man's day. But KJ is like really freaking out. And Lindsay feels so bad.

33:05Because Lindsay doesn't feel bad a lot for being a producer. No. But his anxiety is also very visual. Because you can see him tinkering with all the groceries. Yeah. He's keeping busy. He's like walking around the island during this. He isn't just standing there like having a conversation with Lindsay. She's like, oh, you're down bad. He's opened and closed the juice box like 40 times at this point. Just to make sure it's still fresh. Okay. So it's 12.18 p.m. We're decorating for the old people's party. Lindsay is wearing zebra stripes. And she jokes about how she wore her outfit just to fuck with Carl. Because he like zebras. And she's like, she's scared. I'm scared. This warfare is so funny to me. It's so one-sided. It is also funny. And it's like hearted. Like it's not that deep. She's just like, I'm sure she owned it and was like, wait, this will actually be funny. I mean, in real-time Kyle and Kyle. Carl and Lindsay are doing press together and they're like very funny and they're able to be like, but I think the banter needs to be there now.

34:06They can't just be like, now we're best friends again. They're always going to be this tension because they weren't gauged. I think if they play on the tension, it makes it funny. So it's like cosplaying us friends. Even though they'll never be best friends again. Exactly. So I'm okay with that. Okay. DJ talks to Carl and Kyle. He's stressed. He is freaking out. He tells them about Derra being in Ben's room and Carl's like, listen. Listen. You need to calm down because like if there's one thing we've learned in this house, if there's a fling happening, it becomes a discussion of the house. So then those people's actions, like no one mentioned Derra in Ben's room until you guys became a thing. So like, just calm down. She's loved to talk and you know what? I love this. I love to talk. I love to talk too. I can't even not. But KJ is just freaking out. He's like, I'm honest. What if Derra's not being honest? And I was like, I wouldn't even jump to that. My guy. I don't like you're good.

35:06You're good. This is getting so serious in KJ's mind and I get it. I know. You just tend to spiral, but like it's getting bad when you're questioning if she's being truthful with you. I know. I think what got me is I would spiral, but it would take me a little bit to get there. KJ went immediately to it. It would take me three days to get where KJ is. No. It would take me five minutes. I would be doing it faster than KJ. I would be in my bedroom pacing, talking to myself. No, no, no. I'd be okay for like a little bit, but then if I saw like Derra and Ben interact, like they hugged hello. I'd be like, oh. I'm reading it today. You're like, what about a graph? That's where I would start spiraling. So Ben, Jesse and West have a chat. Jesse heard about what happened last night because West came upstairs pretty upset. And then Sierra joins the conversation. And West tells Sierra that like last night he followed Kyle and like made Kyle apologize. And Sierra gets even more mad when she hears about the fuck you eyes comment.

36:08She's like, the fuck is that bullshit? So no one has talked to Kyle today about it because a man has requested not to bring it up today because we have a party. And Sierra knows like Amanda doesn't want to discuss these things. Like, but she's really good at hiding when she's pissed. Like Kyle probably thinks like we've moved on and it's fine when like that's not the reality. And Sierra's like, I just don't get that because like as soon as I'm pissed everyone knows. And West is like, yeah, we get it. We know. We know, baby. So then Ben is like, hey, I talked to Kyle about lover boy found out that Kyle is personally on the hook for like a his billion dollar business. Oh my god. Okay. These details are insane. Show me the financial loan. 2.5 left on or 2.1 left on the loan, which like those aren't crazy numbers for him to like take that out. But like him personally guaranteeing that loan is the crazy thing. So if lover boy goes down, he still has to pay that. Rough. That was a bad financial decision.

37:08Yeah, it's giving me the like Tom and Tom's like shorts and CDs financing and like putting it against their house. What are we doing? So basically if lover boy tanks Kyle is bankrupt and Ben says it's not an excuse. But that's probably in his head 24 seven. Yeah, but that's not fair. Then you need to stop like doing this show. You need to stop doing other stressors like you need to get your life in order. He's like torturing himself because he makes the house only drink lover boy. And then every time we see a lover boy can he's like, oh yeah, I'm gonna go bankrupt. Like he's doing it to himself at this point. Yeah. And Sierra says she goes, who's fault is all of this? Like Snowx used to talk to Amanda that way in West agrees. And Sierra thinks they should separate and she tells the boys. She's like they shouldn't be like this. It feels different this time. She says that like not even legally separate if needed. But they should get out of each other's fucking lives for a little bit. They really should because they live together obviously in their home. They work at lover boy together.

38:08They do this show together. Well, their friends basically are in common. Like their lives are a little too integrated. And they have no space from each other. So even if it's like Amanda going to her parents house for two weeks, like I'm like do something please. No, I think you need a month. Just like I know I agree but like anything would help. No content. Just like fucking leave it. You can do a hello and a good night text just to check in. We're all alive. But like let's just cut it. Not yeah. And then I think Sierra says it. She says this marriage is insufferable and she's right. It's been insufferable for 10 fucking years. And they weren't even married but it was insufferable back then. I mean, I just think back to like how insufferable that are wedding planning wise. Like I never could have gone through with that one. I would have courthoused wedding at some point. Like that was brutal. The year they got engaged. That wasn't insufferable year. Yeah, because like that it was the year that Kyle Baby like kissed some random girl.

39:08Everything's been insufferable. I don't. I can't think of one. No, it's so easy to pull clips of Kyle yelling at Amanda because there's one every season. I think it was every season. No, no, I'm saying there's at least one every season. At least it's so easy. They have always an overarching fight. I think the only season we didn't really see them fight. It was the season Lindsay and Carl broke up because they were fighting so much. We probably didn't get any scenes of Amanda and Kyle fighting. We couldn't have handled two couples fighting. They were probably still fighting though. Yes. We didn't get it. Insufferable. Okay. So it's 105 pm. We're still setting up for the party. I'd like to say how come the boys are not helping set up. All the girls are doing the work. Listen. Even the good boys are useless. Kyle being like, I'm taking all the lower boys out. You can do that while the party's starting. This is not an emergency task. We need actually the like planning and decor. Yeah. I will say I think it's edited whenever Sierra and the boys are sitting there talking. Yeah. Yeah. But still. You know what? If we see a woman carrying a box, I know we're filming a scene.

40:11But one of those boys are not needed. Let's go out. I know. Would you have to feel like somebody helped me carry this shit in? I was like so jumping to help her. That's unacceptable. All the men are on the hook for this. I don't care. I'm mad at you all. Even you change it. I'm mad at all of you. No. They're fighting too. I mean, there's piss she has to do this right now. Yeah, she has to set up fucking Kyle's birthday. He just called her a dumbass bitch last night. Okay. Yeah. No one can help her. Please. Okay. So Dara is here. She comes in. She says hey to Kyle. And then she finds KJ doing the fridge stuff because he's anxious. And he doesn't even hug her. Hello. It is the... I'm just trying to organize the fridge right now. It's top priority of the day. Yeah, I know you just got here but the parsley. It's got a thing. Gotta go in. The oat milk. I had to switch it around and now I don't have space for it. The best is Dara's like hey can I help you?

41:12She didn't get a low from this man. And she's like no. No. Don't take away my anxious activity. Literally leave. I know you just got here. I would have to lock eyes with you. If you help me and I can avoid your eyesight. If you could just go if you could just go fuck West really quick and just get out of my sight. Like I'd prefer that for some reason. And you actually go hug Ben so I can decide if I should be more anxious or less anxious. Actually yeah let me go see. Let me see. Let me see what it's like. The chemistry. Go. Go out there. No. KJ says he's trying to be normal but he knows he's being awesome. And I was like you didn't try that hard because literally it's like a low. And he's like I would hug you but the fridge. And he's like where's the nearest bridge? Like please tell me. He still has not given this woman a hello hug. And she's like let me try to close it. And she does. She's like look at that. And he's like. Let me go fuck myself. Now what am I going to do? Well thanks for taking my activity away.

42:12This is the downside of that man having every emotion on his sleeve. Is he cannot hide this? I would have immediately. I know we're still new but I would have been like are you having a stroke? Like what's happening? Like I dare a place they're off really well. She does. Straight up in like no hello hug. I came all the way from Fire Island for nothing. I was getting anxious with the screen a little bit. I was like are we going to get everything in the fridge? I couldn't stop laughing because I was like it's so awkward. It's like the office where it's so awkward it becomes funny. That was this. It's the fridge not closing for me. That's set me over the edge. No. It started with can I help? No. Two. You're going let me close the fridge and him going. Let's call it side. Because it's not like she was just invited generically to the party. Again she's here for him. So she's not going to go outside with everybody else. No. Hey what's up? It's like you haven't said even hello to me. And then I don't know if this is how it is but how it's edited which was even funnier.

43:15Was that he basically like sends her outside and then goes back inside. Like he's like. Oh my god. Goodbye. Get out of my face. I need to stress out alone. Yeah. Okay so everyone in the backyard is being really stupid playing with their old people stuff and like their scooters which I loved. And yet KJ is just like I don't want to hang out with Dara. So I'm going to I'm going to leave her with the other boys. You go set up. I still have work to do on this fridge. KJ is just staring at the fridge. Dara is setting up in the backyard now by herself which I know these people know her because that was my argument earlier. But also if you're her comfort because you invited her to leave her in the backyard to set up without you. It's not your fault. But not even just leave her because it's like he hugged her hello. Hey I'm working on something. Yeah. You go out to Amanda help out there. He did not say hello to her. He did not hug her. He is clearly on edge and something's going on. She knows it and he's like go outside. She's not like putting down a cushion. Yeah.

44:15And he's like what's wrong with that man? She's trying to make friends and be like does it look okay? And Amanda's like your cushion looks amazing sweetie you doing great. You're doing great. Let's go on in there though. KJ is upstairs just like flying in the corner just like I don't know what to do. It's so cute but so awkward. So I have to make fun of it. Okay. A hundred percent so it's one forty six p.m. We're playing on scooters some more because these are too much fun. Kyle is in a weird mood and he tells Carl he's like I'm just over thinking everything and Carl's like no sh**. I get that. I love that Carl will not ask questions. He's just like me too, brother me too Well, you see how KJ is spiraling and not taking it out on Dara But Kyle spirals and take it out on his partner like love it. He's really thrown Dara He didn't but he's not He's not being heard none of us just like I need Ignoring her for a lot of that is an appropriate thing. I need you should have said hello But like needing spaces and appropriate action when you should He should have let the fridge go for five seconds to give her a good side hug

45:19He couldn't do it, but it's okay. It's fine. That's his one mistake But he didn't say fuck you you fucking bitch. I'm glad you're she's like I help with the fridge And he goes fuck yourself. Oh But she was probably giving fuck you eyes come on Well, she gave fuck you energy with being in Ben's room for our supposedly allegedly Fuck you energy trying to help with the fridge. Oh, however, how dare I am a you know I've been at this for three hours at this point. They're uber egg Uber eats bag broke I care I hand carried this shit straight to the fridge. There was already bad vibes around these groceries Don't bring your bad Ben vibes and this is his car so he's been working on this forever Okay, so Kyle says this summer. He's just the worst version of himself He knows his relationship is terrible and he's he feels isolated and feels like he should give up But he's invested so much into his marriage and his business that he like can't give up The way we put those together

46:19I'm immediately invested way too much into both of these so I'm hunkering down. I said who's talking about your business Nobody hello. Yeah of CEO of what let's bring back Daniel Business of what calm down to be honest if it's between my wife and my business Picking my wife to pick your wife Feel like you should too especially cuz you know your wife has some money somewhere cuz she was looking into a prenup So pick your wife let your business go down the drain and I saw this a lot online is like Kyle You are on a TV show. You do have an income that can support you guys like you do have your DJ career How many times when you make fun of it like you can like pay that two million dollars back that is a lot of money But you can't act like there's like you wouldn't have access to pay that I bet you a million dollars of that money that Amanda Amanda's parents would come in and give you some money to help with this if you were nicer

47:20Yeah, that's the one you were just a little nicer and a little better. Yeah, so it's 2.04 p.m The girls continue to set up with the boys continue to do nothing Sierra tells KJ she is gonna be Karma Brown which he doesn't know what that means Bam, I can't believe he doesn't know her game, but like you know what you didn't watch the show But I hope you do your research now who Sierra is when it comes to costumes exactly So KJ me and Sierra talk about Dera KJ said he was having a panic attack Which we did see him go to the front of the house, which I assume is where the panic attack happened Because he was taking out boxes. He's just rethinking a lot everyone's telling KJ to be careful Like last night people were saying it and he's just in his head And he's gonna stop something before it even starts because he's protecting himself and he does really like Dera and Sierra's like listen, I've been there I've been there and I've gotten the worst of it and she also understands how KJ is feeling Especially after the conversation last night talking about public relationships and

48:24Interracial relationships and dating on the show and it's a lot But she tells her and me a both tell KJ like you cannot deprive yourself of this connection Like if you don't do something out of fear the other side wins like and no matter what happens They're all gonna be here for him and I love this trio and I would lay my life on the line for this And I think that's a good message too is like I mean serious thing was cheesy though Like it's it's better to have loved and then like lost and then not have loved it all but like it is true Like do it. I know they're like the group said their fear about it going too fast But like it's better to it's better to jump in feet first and try it out because there is a real connection I think we're genuinely concerned of like who Dara is they'd be like Yeah, they're supporting him. They want him to have a good experience with her. Let's talk it out Maybe we just talk Yeah, yeah, let's just figure it out like you have support. You have to or especially someone who's been through it Don't you worry? Yes, yeah, so Nina the makeup artist is here also so at 2.36 p.m

49:31Kyle has to get his makeup done because it will take 90 minutes Okay, there's a long time and then Kyle and Amanda's friends are here Matt and Katie and I was like who the fuck are them? They're the ones who got married in Italy last summer that they know Ben. Oh, I did write down is he Australian because it sounded like he said one Yeah, yeah, he is he hasn't been he and had a wank in his room when I was like that is not American They're the reason they know Ben and then also like I know Katie has been around a little bit like in background stuff and then she's all over Amanda's Instagram, but I wonder if these two are on in this city I could not find the like rumored cast whenever they like first started filming in early fall I I know there's been a I mean, it's confirmed that Amanda obviously Kyle and Lindsay are on it and then Andrea and his wife Lexi are highly talked about because they were seen filming things, but I can't remember who else I believe Lindsay's friend kind of always forget her name

50:33But she has like a unique name What's seen filming and I just don't know if Katie and Matt were either, but like would be curious interesting Okay, can't wait Okay, so then we also see Carl's green slides that I hate He acknowledges that they're terrible, but he loves them. I'd like that. He can make fun of himself this more this summer Okay, so then KJ and dare and KJ's room and they KJ's room has two beds and in my hand I'm like he's gonna make seriously On one of the beds without him KJ says today was just weird vibes and he tells her that he's in his head And dare is very understanding. She's like, oh no, I don't like that And KJ tells dare that eat what he heard from Lindsay who heard it from Bailey is that She spent an hour in Ben's room and dare says okay, that's not true What happened is I put my I'd put my stuff in there and then I went into the room changed and then came out Which makes sense because he's downstairs so like lugging your suitcase up all those flights for not spending the night

51:35Because we know she didn't spend the night isn't worth it Yeah, and the alpha change makes sense She's partying and then we even thought she didn't spend the night at the summer house like it looked like she didn't So I think she probably changed out of her party clothes and then left Yeah, cuz either she went out with them or we decided she was like dropped off somewhere. Oh Right, right. Yeah, we think that she was dropped off. She left with her suitcase But I don't understand not wanting to leave in a deemed party outfit 100% and so dare says that like the conversation with Ben that's being talked about never happened And KJ just shares that he got in his head about how dare I might like Ben and then dare is like listen That's not crazy to think like and she says if I heard that you maybe like someone else I would also be going crazy So I really like this. Yeah, they communicated really well and she was really understanding about it She like put herself in his shoes and like comes him down. I like that she validates that like his thoughts aren't crazy

52:39It is normal to jump to conclusions or be worried about if she like someone she had previously flirted with too Yeah, and she assures KJ that the only person she's interested in is him and then he's like okay We're cool, and then she's like well, I'm not happy Bailey said that though and I will be having a conversation To which KJ is like oh no, you could tell dare Okay, here's what I will say you can always tell a little a little crazy, right And dare have that in her eyes. I have that too. We're all suppress it But if I see you I got something to say you're gonna hear it I like that she's being confrontational too because this isn't just like oh I saw her go into Ben's room and she changed and I don't know what happened Bailey is putting a narrative to it a little bit when she's telling the story and talk to them for an hour Yeah, you don't know who else has heard this story like we got to correct this darlings No, I loved dare kind of looking at KJ and being like oh, I will talk about it. Don't you worry? I was like I'm obsessed with her okay, so everyone is getting changed

53:43West goes as Mrs. Doubtfire, which he's incredible Mia looks and acts incredible KJ cannot Hold it in he's talking dying at Mia Carl spray painted his hair gray is everyone loved it two years ago when he did it So he's like coming back. He's got the little fox look he definitely does and then here comes karma brown And her tits are to the ground and it is Incredible why she said she had a paint them because there's a lot of west wearing them later and they're like They're way a white person yeah, that like she she colored them good I don't know what the fuck she did, but incredible. No, you're a per usual shoes crack me up May I just say west me and Sierra were my for three favorites like they were so good So they cheers to summer house season 53 Holy right. Okay, so now it's party time my favorite part was when Mia dropped her cigarette and goes I need one of them kids to get my cigarette and then just looks around and yells help

54:48The commitment to the bid is so funny And then other people come in and they're dressed normal which we see that often I get a juxtaposition of old people and young people looking good was crazy Funny and then west and Jesse have a little chat. Jesse's like hey, isn't it crazy that Amanda's pretending like nothing happened last night And isn't it crazy that Sierra said they should separate and I'm like Jesse you messy little bitch stop talking about this No, it's not crazy for her to say that she sees more than you guys do. Yeah, isn't it not crazy I was like no, no, but west is like look like we've known them for three years And there have been moments that I've seen where I'm like I get it. They should maybe separate and just is like I just thought like They were each other's people and west is like okay, but married people also have issues and west says For all the bad that he's seen he just wants to see a little more good And he hasn't seen that and he was heartbroken for Amanda last night

55:48And he want and also he knows that if someone gives someone else a nice gift The giver is probably being a shitty-ass person in every other way possible Way to clock that west So um west is going to talk to Kyle like how could he not And my first thought was this reunion is gonna slap dude This reunion is gonna be so good then we get it to be continued so we don't know what happens I can't wait to watch the next episode though. Immediately there are some shows where I'm like I don't care about the reunion This is not one of those shows This is not it and by the way I still haven't seen Kyle post a like public apology and I think he should I think he should do it on his story or like in an Instagram post One at the reunion like you are a bad person. Yeah This is a bad way to treat the person you're supposed to love unconditionally the most Yeah, and you should feel regret over that. Yeah Especially because it did cost you your marriage in the end and he is so lucky

56:49Amanda wants to have an amicable divorce Because she should I mean I was gonna say taken for everything he's worth but sounds like he's not worth much Well like you guys should part ways and like clean cut, but she doesn't have to be nice to you No, she's so nice to him. She hasn't been trashing him. She didn't said anything mean about him She says they're still frown. She's still like they still share the dogs or whatever she was saying and I was like dude I would be Lindsey times 10 like I'd be so fucking mean Same like I I can't help it like fuck you for treating me like this for 10 years on TV So everyone a little bit of that at the reunion like I need her to stand up for herself. Yeah Yeah, I need a little and I think she didn't the sense like when she divorced him That's a way to stand up for yourself But also don't let this man still have you in a sense. I know he still has you for comfort and I cannot have that anymore Go fuck his best friend or something. Go fuck her on gas, but don't also

57:51But like yeah, you know anyway, so let's do fun not fine. Um, it's even so that means it's my turn I'm gonna go first and not fun Kyle Same double that okay double triple quadruple it okay. I'm gonna go with fine Oh, I'm in between two, but I'm gonna go with Sierra Carmichael bam is my favorite cracks me up every time Also, she was a good friend to Amanda and also I'm this friend I'm gonna look at my friend and be like y'all should divorce because like this is ridiculous I would do it. I would normally do Sierra too, but I want to not double both of them So I'm going west really great supportive friends like thank you so much another incredible costume Like he's doing it all and I'm so excited to watch him have that talk with Kyle next episode Absolutely, and I hope it's everything I need it to be Need to because that's what I deserve. Okay Well, we will be back next episode do all the things I mentioned at the beginning of the episode and with that love you

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