
Summer ‘25 Rewind: The missing link in reading comprehension, with Anne Lucas
About this episode
In this rewind episode of Science of Reading: The Podcast, we revisit a Season 1 conversation between host Susan Lambert and Anne Lucas, former curriculum director and current Associate Vice President of Product, Literacy Suite Initiatives & Supplementals at Amplify on the complexities of reading comprehension.Together they dive into the complex nature of comprehension and why it’s so difficult to teach.
Show notes:
- Access free, high-quality resources at our brand new, companion professional learning page: http://amplify.com/science-of-reading/professional-learning
- Resources:
- Read: Understanding and Teaching Reading Comprehension by Jane Oakhill
- Read: The missing link in comprehension white paper
- Listen: Science of Reading Essentials: Writing
- Join our community Facebook Group: www.facebook.com/groups/scienceofreading
- Connect with Susan Lambert: https://www.linkedin.com/in/susan-lambert-edd-b1512761/
- Find our more information – and register – for our Science of Reading Summer Learning Series: https://amplify.com/sorsummerlearning
Quotes:
“We often think about comprehension as a product, or something that happens after kids read, but … the ability for a student to build a model or a network of ideas or a picture in their mind happens while they're reading.” —Anne Lucas
“You know, you don't have to completely change your curriculum; you don't have to completely change the way you're teaching.” —Anne Lucas
“Comprehension is making sense and meaning while you read, so you have the ability to discuss, analyze, and form an opinion about something after you read it.” —Anne Lucas
Episode timestamps*
03:00 Introduction: Who is Anne Lucas?
07:00 Defining comprehension
09:00 The missing link in comprehension
10:00 Comprehension micro skills vs decoding
14:00 End goal vs. process
16:00 Current research
18:00 Significance of “small” words
20:00 Targeting micro skills in the classroom
22:00 Comprehension skills vs strategies
27:00 Teacher response to learning about micro skills
29:00 Background knowledge
31:00 Final takeaways on comprehension
*Timestamps are approximate, rounded to nearest minute
Get every episode summarized
Each time Science of Reading: The Podcast publishes, we email you a written briefing from the transcript — the topics, who appeared, and any specific claims, with the ad reads skipped.
Email me new episodesFree for 3 shows. No card needed.
Hosts & guests
No transcript yet
This episode has not been transcribed. Request it and it moves to the front of the queue.
More episodes
More from Science of Reading: The Podcast

S10 E14: Your comprehension questions answered, with Nathaniel Swain, Ph.D.
Science of Reading: The Podcast

S10 E13: Building blocks for deep comprehension, with Susan Lambert
Science of Reading: The Podcast

S10 E12: Filling the gaps with inferences, with Kristen McMaster, Ph.D.
Science of Reading: The Podcast

S10 E11: Learning to read vs. reading to learn, with Timothy Shanahan, Ph.D.
Science of Reading: The Podcast