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Story Time 285 – Bring back the Matador BBQs Cup!

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It’s Story Time, our weekly walk through cricket history. This week, Geoff and Adam ask if batting on all five days of a Test really is the feat we build it up to be when it happens? We also look at Mali’s brief and unusual international frolic before reflecting on the second glory period of Australian one-day cricket – the mighty Matador BBQs Cup. Bring it back! Your Nerd Pledge numbers for this week: 2.27 – Erin Kane 13.00 – Greg Upon Thames 5.57 – Brad Guitotti Get yourself 10% off lovely ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Duncan Fearnley ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠bats and kit with code TFW10 Morie Candles have an extra 5% off any existing promotion: click ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠morie.com.au⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠/discount/TFW5⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Stop snoring with 10% off a Zeus device: use code TFW2026 at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠zeussleeps.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Maurice Blackburn is Australia's leading social justice law firm. Contact them for help: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠mauriceblackburn.com.au⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Check out the Lord's Performance Centre for activities and courses: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠lords.org/lords/performancecentre⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Get your big NordVPN discount: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠nordvpn.com/tfw⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or 10% off ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Duncan Fearnley ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠bats and kit with code TFW10 or 15% off Step One clothes at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠uk.stepone.life/discount/TFW148⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or 10% off BIG Boots UK boots and socks at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠bigboots.co.uk/?ref=thefinalword⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Find more at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠finalwordcricket.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Title track by ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Urthboy⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Story Time 285 – Bring back the Matador BBQs Cup!

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The Final Word Cricket PodcastStory Time 285 – Bring back the Matador BBQs Cup!. Machine-transcribed; use the interactive transcript above to jump the player to any line.

I had to go about it right it out, find it myself and there's some stories I can tell you for the 285th time. This is the final word story time, Adam Collins and Jeff Lemon with you. I'm at the oval in South London when the rain has been pouring all morning. It will stop soon and then I'll be commentating and Jeff and I between commentary stints, we will tell you all about the history of the game, Jeff in Lisbon. This is where we invest the time, the research on the game, where we come out the other side of it and we tell you some stories. Good afternoon to you. Yes, away we go. The highlight of the week, as always, to delve into some weird niche stuff which I've been doing. Going down a rabbit hole that I didn't expect to be going down and finding, I don't know how interesting it will be but people can listen and tell me if it was or not. I can make their own minds up. I can tell you as well that this shows brought to you by Duncan Fernley where Heritage meets performance. I had another example the other day where people kept handling my bat,

which I'm perfectly relaxed about. I'm gotten quite used to it. They say the back of it and they start swooning, that's traditional. Let your dad swoon, this is a crude segue, it is far this day in Australia this weekend. What better time than to get your dad a bat that if he didn't use the Duncan Fernley as a youngster. His hero certainly did. Alan Border or Graham Hick or Vibritchard. Any number of the Martin Crow. One of them would have used it that much. I'm certain of the AB Firestar, my bat of choice at the moment, the nag them the bat of choice of many others in our flock on a Saturday or a Sunday. But yeah, the discounts built in, so all you need to do is click the code in your away. But, Father's Day, start of a new season in Australia. What I suppose club cricketers will be well into preseason, but you will be, I suppose, four weekends away from round one. Treat yourself, whether you are a father or otherwise. Treat yourself to a magnificent stick, beautiful softs as well. And that famous Duncan Fernley logo on your kit,

where everyone else will ask you about throughout the course of the summer. No, better time, discount, all that in the show notes. A lot of products are called magnums. And they always imply power. The magnum cleanest wood's gun. The world's most popular ice cream. A certain brand of plus size prophylactics. There are many, many magnum as big bottles of champagne. The magnum wherever you go, the magnum says power. It says stability. It says reliability. And it says control. So if you can get all that in a stick of willow, you are doing very well indeed. You are right, HF. Well, it's time for us to get into it. What are we doing here today? We are playing the game of no, de pledge. No pledges again that we play with nice people on the internet. Who fund this program? They send in a contribution, a donation, a coin in the tin. But it's not a coin because it's not in the normal denominations of currency. It's in a very specific combination that they choose because that number

relates to cricket in some way. If you don't understand what I mean, I mean for instance, Aaron Kane sends us $2.27 in USD. $2.27 means something. And sometimes there's a clue that helps you untangle it even further. Aaron says right now it's $2.27 USD because of patron limitations with currency. But please imagine that that amount of money has been properly exchanged for $3,142 Rwandan francs. Okay, so $3.142, that's the number. What sort of? We've got to figure out what it means. Sort of. Okay, well you'll make sense. Well, you'll talk us through that. Aaron says this node pledge is based on a particular game in a particular tournament in a part of the world with a lot of cricket that we don't hear too much about. But I bet there are some stories you can tell. Well, that's what we do here. So what have you got? We sure do. Fun in games this one.

So pleased to have Aaron in our list this week. And we're going back to the days when T20 iStatus was originally given out, which might be something in the clue that might tweak for some people hearing that now. Now there were plenty of wild moments that followed that change in the data. I thought one of the say off the top here this. The world didn't come to an end. I mean, like surely the cricket world was added to by more cricket being recognised as international status. So a reminder in some respects that status kind of is a state of mind. You know, I know that we had this conversation earlier this year around that Dean Jones game not having list day nor one day status. And that's fine about one day international status. But not having list day status and all the hoops that one needs to jump through when really would the world be that much worse if it were just ticked and fleeked? I suspect not. Anyway, there you go. As a preamble to Aaron Cain's answer. Now I know that she is probably committed to it's relevant. I would say to a story that Andrew Nixon sent through from the emerging cricket world

to a few days ago about an aisle of man cricket, a Joanne Hicks who became the oldest player to ever take a five for in an international or a listed international game. So she's 51 years old. She's already taken a few bags of wickets since taking up the or since arising to international level at the age of 47. So you know, there would be people who would say, oh well, there are quality isn't high enough and that shouldn't count. But it does. And she's the oldest player to take an international five for get bag. There you go. I'm going to decline the opportunity that a number of people gave to me on social media this week to advance a theory about someone else who made an international debate aged 62 this week because I don't want to impure their reputation. But you know, there are stories like this around that don't help. I don't think. But why do point bigger picture? These types of things have been good for the associate game. And I'll go into explain why. So mentioning here that Aaron Cain is fully committed to Ugandan cricket as well. We met in America during the 24 to 20 World Cup, which was wonderful.

And I mean, I feel sad for the Ugandan men that they're out the qualifying for future tournaments has been compromised by the new process. You know, like this was one of the secondary storylines the other week about what T20 qualification will look like in World Cup in the future. And like it will it will have less to do with regional qualifying, more to do with the global qualify, which will sort of snuff out some of these stories into the future. I mean, we're not talking about the men here though either. This is a different tale. It's one about the Ugandan and Rwandan and other women in a tournament that was played in 2019 in Rwanda. The Queer Bucker women's T20 tournament. Essentially a quad series with Rwanda hosting at the Gahunga International cricket stadium. This is a very special stadium. I know that my friend here, John Citi, so I work with at Surrey and talks about it all the time. The work the Surrey Foundation did. It all started with a charity in 2011. And the idea was they wanted to build a cricket stadium that was fit for international cricket.

And they did it in partnership with Amention Surrey and the MCC Foundation. Brilliant people inside the game and outside the game, you know, sort of heather night, Brian Lara. All sorts of weird and wonderful fundraising took place. I think it was a killer men jarro climb at one point. I think that's right. The one that Phil Walker went on. I think Claire Conner was on that as well. And then we've got some fundraiser by World Record. The highest altitude game of cricket situation. I think that's right. Because there was the base camp Everest one that was done in conjunction with the tabs, which our friend and colleague Nick Tovey was part of. And then not long after that, like within a couple of years, the killer men jarro one happened. And then I've got a feeling of just going to keep some. That has something to do with Rwanda. He's not. Yeah. He's not so about that at all. No, he doesn't. He's never mentioned that and doesn't continue to mention it at every possible opportunity. He'll like it when he's editing this app. They raised funds in all sorts of fun ways. So there's a man by the name Eric.

Do sings a man now. Eric, I know. I'll tell you why. No, I mean, I mean, he had a 51 hour net. He broke a Guinness World Record for the longest ever net. And Eric was a teammate of mine last year because I mentioned John search before. Now, he was batting the whole way through. It's there in the record, longest net ever. It was presented to me as having a Guinness World Record. Yeah, but it and being an international captain. It's easier to have a long net if you're batting than if you've got to send them down. So this ground have been used for various interesting things from about 2014 onwards. But this is the first time it's used for official international cricket with an eye on the end of it at T20i. The first time that the Queer Bucker tournament was held, it was already seen again. It was first held at this ground actually in 2014. And the idea of it was that it was 20 years on from the Rwanda and genocide. So it was also known as the cricket for peace tournament. In that initial edition, it was Rwanda playing Uganda. And that was it in a multi format series. But because in 2019, this status thing happened.

They thought, well, he might some other teams to come and join us. So they had Tans and he had very strong associate nation. And they invited Marley, who, as we'll learn in a moment, were the very opposite of that. And then a quad tournament in the June of 2019. And look, some of the bits and pieces here absolutely do become a meme. I mean, Jeff, without you knowing what I'm about to talk about, I'm sure you remember when Marley got bold out for six, because that made headlines around the world. Yes. And then, you know, that took nine overs to make, by the way, I had a look at the scorecard. And then Rwanda chased it down in four balls to win with 116 balls to spare. And yeah, I mean, it's the lowest T20 i score. But what I would say is it's the joint lowest T20 i score. The Maldives were rolled out for six by Bangladesh in 2019, but they've mismatched there and resourcing. The Maldives also have gotten eight against Nepal, who, of course, have played in World Cups. And eight, China, but an eight against Thailand. So, you know, context is everything when you're looking at associate cricket, who you're playing in these records and that type of thing.

But, you know, sure enough, given that Marley had made some very low scores, that were going to be some very, very big scores in this tournament as well. And that's what Erin is pointing us to. You got that having a lot of extras. Yeah, that's one of, yeah. A lot of bombs, a lot of extras, that's for sure. So, Uganda, instead of bowling first and winning quickly, decided to bat first and win slowly. Now, you want to have a hit. You know, if you know that the other mobile game balled out for single figure scores, then you'd rather have a hit, wouldn't you? Yeah. Well, they'll bowl that for six, and they'll bowl that for 11 in their second game. So, I suppose they figured that it wasn't going to get much better than that. So, they thought that, give themselves their own long net, I suppose. And they went on to make a staggering 314 for two. So, yeah, that's what the number relates to. 3142. And, I mean, there are a couple of centuries in this, proscolvia Alucca, made one 16. She was at last ball of the innings, nearly better than through. And, in the end, she was at Musa Marley, made a hundred and three not out the captain from 61 deliveries.

They put on 227, which was one of the myriad records broken on the day. It was the highest T-20 eye score for women. And, I assumed it still would be, but no, no, no, it is not. Not by a long shot. So, it got broken a couple of times, just passed it. One of them was Bahrain, made 318 for one against the Saudis in 2022. And how about this? It's been a team of 18 as women in 2023. It's team that I've covered at the South American champs that I was at last year, again coincidentally with John Certace, I'm sorry. They made 427 for one against Chile. I remember this one. 2023. Now, I mean, I saw the... We talked about it at the time. Yeah, as soon as I saw it, I remembered something in the back of my mind. But, yeah, the Argentine Brazilian composite 11 did beat MCC in one of those games I was at last year. I mean, it's not to diminish what Argentina represent, but like Brazil thrash Argentina. And we know that Brazil is still on the journey. They're not like a full member beating up on a...

You know, beating up on Marley, or it's a bit different when it's Argentina playing Chile, which makes it all remarkable. So, of all the records here to note, first time there was two tons in a T-20 eye. That's happened since. Biggest partnership. They're all gone. But, yeah, due to the Marley Curio and how big this all went at the time, I was curious how they went on to finish it. So, they were bowled out for 6-11 and then 10 in this game. So, I margined for 304 runs. And even that's not the biggest margin in T-20 eyes anymore. Either that's down to third on that list. Figures are fairly brutal. Well, the 400 miles south. This was one of them. Wasn't it? It was 400 miles. Yeah, 63. The other lot for... not much. 63. I got a feeling Chile were bowled out for. So, U-Mau-Sau, who was bowling first changed that day, picked up none for 82 from three. So, she went at 27's, but not helped by the extras, 10 wides and 16 no balls. So, you got a bit of a feel for how this innings went. 58 balls needed to be re-bulled. So, it was a very, very long time in the middle, but less time when they were batting.

I suppose they did bat for 11 overs, but they were bowled out for 10. The rest of the comp, Tanzania, don't lose the game. Uganda actually didn't make it to the final after all. That they finished third after the 300 plus. The final was rewinded. But it meant that Uganda had to play Marley again in the third place playoff, which I thought was quite amusing given it's a four team comp. You've bullied this team to the tune of a 304-run margin, and you play them again for the bronze medal, so to speak. But yeah, they rolled them in for 14 and one in 10 balls. So, even more records there. The final Tanzania made 125 for seven. Rwunder unfortunately fell well short, 55 for nine. But what I will say is Henrietta Mishway, who unfortunately got a duck there, would go on to have what is turning out to be a proper career. I met her at Fairbreak. She bowled Nicola Carey with an unplayable, with her first ball for the Barmi Army in the first edition of the Fairbreak Invitational. It isn't that a great thing about cricket, how can find you're one part of the pyramid or another? Like now she's the captain. She's taken 164 wickets. She takes them at 11. She has a proper life in the game.

So, yes, that's not been the case for Marley. They never played another T20i. Indeed, you look at the card. They never played another game full stop according to cricket archive. High score of 17 in their six outings. There's probably a deri-ish male car and star documentary on what happens to those 11 players. Maybe 10 years later or something like that. But you know what? It's six more T20i's than any of us have played. So thank you, Aaron, for taking us back to Rwunder, which is a great emerging story of itself. Frank, 25th in the world now, Jeff. And as we've talked about with Brazil, they have every right to dream that one day they can now play in a World Cup. So humble beginnings there in Rwunder, going back to 29th same when they first had this status. But it really does mean something. And Aaron clearly knows that with her interesting Uganda as well. Who came third in his tournament after making 300 and 14 for two. It was an interesting thing at around the time of that T20i status where there were so many countries that were pulling a team together purely for that reason. You know, they had a cricket association or whatever it was. And maybe they already had a men's team up and running.

But some of those, particularly in those tournaments in Africa, some of those teams were built by just call outs basically, putting like Canvas things. I mean, who wants to come and play in a cricket team? And a lot of these players at Bally ever played before. Didn't know much about the game at all. Or had pretty rudimentary training coming into it. And then we're thrown into a tournament. So, you know, for all that, you can make fun of some embarrassing scores and all the rest of it. It was a pretty steep ask for a lot of these players who didn't actually have any experience in the game. I realize this might be a timely moment for me to put out a public shout out to people in certain parts of the world where I'm trying to find that exact group of people right now. If you know anyone that's by chance pulling together a team in Bosnia, Kosovo, or North Macedonia, please get in touch. Because that would be relevant to my broader interests. Before we go to the break, Jeff, our first break on the show. One other question, one other question before that. You said 16 no balls.

Were the 16 no ball. How did that happen? They had to have been four tosses, Eric, and they can't be over steps. They've got to be like floating balls. I think one of the least understood... Yeah, I mean, I'd be very, very surprised if it's not off the pitch. I think one of the least understood parts of the laws of the game is that there's an assumption for some reason that balls that miss the cut strip can sometimes be called wides and sometimes not be called wides. Whereas elite panel amplifiers know that it's an no ball. So I would kind of be surprised if that wasn't missing the strip. Given she'd balled, what do I say, 12 wides? If she's already balled 12 wides, I'm going to say the majority of those 16 amiss in the pitch here. Or like big, big full tosses over the head, over the batter's head kind of thing. Maybe, maybe, yeah. You get a lot of that. You get a lot of the loose, completely losing the length. But I'm wondering whether there were 16 individual deliveries or whether one of those clears the keeper and goes away. Then you've got five.

No, that doesn't count. That's only one in the ballers column. Yeah, it's one to the no balls, four to the bies in that scenario. So if it's five wides, it goes five into the wides column, one into the ballers column. You can see the runs. It adds to your tally of runs, conceded. But you only get one in your number of wides, bold, caddic column. So it wouldn't say five wides, it would say one. So it's one of those quirks of the way that wides are presented on a full sheet. Well, it can't be anything other than bies in that scenario. Or, you know, there's no real way in which, because if it's a wide ball, it would be a wide ball before it's a no ball in that scenario. But isn't it different with wides? Because they're always saying, it's harsh if the umpire doesn't call a wide, and it goes away for bies, because the bies go against the keeper. But the five wides don't go against the keeper. Yeah, right? No, they go against the baller. Yeah, they go against, no, the five wides go against the baller. All the runs go against the baller. So I was marking the score sheet at the end of the over. Yeah, if I was marking a score sheet, I'd do a crucifix,

and I would have four dots into the four gaps, which would signify a wide plus one, two, three, four additional runs. So at the end of the over, in the ballers tally sheet, say it was the ballers first over and they're both six other not balls. It'd be not for five in the bottom of the ballers thing. It'd be five wides, it would be marked with, you know, the usual way in the wide set tally of the score sheet. The summary side of it on the right hand side on the ballers column, it would only get recognized as one wide being bold, one physical delivery being bold as a wide ball would go in there. So the runs would count, but the, but the way it gets accounted for. Yeah, sorry, it's very near. Please don't confuse it. No, but there you go. That's the view that's what I live in. If you release, if you release the ball and it goes so high, and it clears the keeper, and then it clears the boundary on the full, is that six? Is that no ball plus six? Six. That would be no ball plus six buyers. I'm afraid. Oh, hang on, hang on, that's a good question. Because would it be, now this is going to compromise what I said before, because there's the no ball come first in that scenario. Yes, it does.

It comes before the wide. So it couldn't be signaled wide, it would have to be signaled a no ball, but it couldn't be six no balls, because there's no such thing as six no balls. It would be one no ball and six buyers is crazy, as it is to say. So is unfair, is that is? Although I do wonder whether in that scenario where the wides, but I do now, but now I say that, I say that out loud. Maybe, and someone will, Jack rule or someone will pull me up on this. Maybe it would be in that scenario, it would be six wides, seven wides indeed. Seven wides rather than a no ball plus six sundries. I don't know, actually never thought of it what comes first. These are the things that will keep me up at night. Jeff, what, what, keep me up at night is chafing. No. Because not only more. Not anymore. Not anymore. Not anymore. The step ones. And maybe who knows, maybe my friends in the former Yugoslavia publics, can have some step ones given to them or when and when we are there next year playing cricket. As I said, if you know anyone in Bosnia or Kosovo or North Macedonia who plays cricket or might play cricket,

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Last week, I'm not sure of Greg upon Tim's is near goring on Tim's. What I can say is that I lovely club to play at last Friday with several final word listeners among their number, which was lovely. Greg on Tim's 13 pounds on the dot. He's been with us before. The clue is 13 to choose from. I'd love to hear the best story from them. Slash 13 is correct. Oh no, the slash is just a punctuation mark. 13 is correct at the time of writing, which was about 8 months ago. So Jeff, where you at? Where you at? Okay. Okay. Well, first of all, it's a Greg. I think we met Greg in leads, I reckon, for the heading lead test of 2023. Yes, we did. I heard from Greg a couple of weeks ago, your spot on, we saw him at the pub after one of the days of the Yorkshire test. So we could have him back on the show 13. A lot of 13s in cricket, a lot of ways you can get 13, a lot of squads of 13.

You've got a couple of extra players there to come on to do the subfielding, that kind of thing. There were 13 herns. We told the story of the hern clan and how each J hern was related to each W hern and so on and so on. However, Greg said 13 is correct at the time of writing in January 2025. And I doubt that Greg was expecting more herns to be added to the hern tally given they mostly played in the 1800s. I'm sure there are existing descendant herns, but no longer in the cricketing sphere, although it would be great if there were descendant about to make a first class debut. And we could add to the 13 herns, but I'm not sure if that's what's going on here. I believe, and there are, look, there are, there are rarities in cricket and there are the things we've talked about, twin tons being more common than hatchrics and hatchrics being more common. Then taking a wicket with the first ball of a test match and so on and so on. Right, all the way down to first ball of a career. What's something like 13 that you've got it's going to be something pretty special for a low number. Double centuries on debut, we talked about that last week, seven of those have happened.

So something that's more common than that. So I was searching around in the rarities and oddities bin. I was looking at all of the niche things that might have a relatively brief list. And here is one that I can pose it to you. 13 times somebody has batted on all five days of a test match. 13 times that has happened. That's a list of 13 with some fairly rare 13s. And rather than getting into one of them specifically, I got very interested Greg in how this would happen because it sounds like a very impressive feat. But then almost all of the times that it's happened, it's involved a lot of lost play. It's involved rain delays at some point, at least one of the days needs to be largely washed out, but not fully washed out. If it's fully washed out, you can't bat on all five days. So it could be quite an unimpressive feat. The one that springs to mind, the one that I remember, which was an impressive feat was Osman Kauajar, Edgebaston, 2023,

which is the template. If you're going to bat on all five days, your best method to it is this. Your best method is to be an opener. Enter the phrase, late on day one, bat through the available overs on day two, which hopefully if you is a shortened day, you lose some time out of day through. Continue through briefly on to morning three for a jiffy by which point your innings concludes. The other team bats through the rest of day three and much of day four. You come back late on day four and then bat into day five done. You can then bat on all five days of a test match without actually needing to make a particularly big score. Kauajar did make a hundred and a sixty, but you could do it. And I was thinking about the possibilities of this like bowling the ball over the rope for six extras plus a no ball. I was like, how, how, how, how, how, how could you do it in the smallest amount of time? So you don't actually have to face a ball in order to have batted on all five days of a test match. I'll say that you just need to be in the middle while a ball is bold because then you were there.

You were in the middle, you were, you were involved in play. So you could in theory achieve this in the span of five balls without facing either of those balls. And you could do it in no more than two overs. If you came out in the final over of the day on day one, you're at the non-struckers end. Your batting partner gets out as per the rules as they were until recently where, so from now on we're going to have plays continue to come out and face after a wicket falls in the last over of the day. That was one of the tweaks they made recently. But up until this point, you could have come out, watch your partner get out at the other end first ball of the innings and then you'd be off. You would have batted technically on day one. You could face, you could come out while somebody else faces one ball on day two and that starts to rain, rains all day on day two. Day three, you come out first ball, you get a diamond duck, you run out of the non-struckers end. You batted on day three though. And then day four, you come out in the last over and your partner gets out first ball of the innings again.

There might have been a bit like how Ben Duckett felt during the ashes. You know, say like maybe that was a run out, maybe you turned over strike and then you get stumped off a wide. So you technically haven't faced a ball. So you could do that in the space of five balls, you could have been that would be the first ball of day five. You could have batted on all five days without actually facing a delivery in the test match. That would be possible. Be pretty unlikely. But I guess the point I'm making is you don't need to play very well to batt on all five days of a test match. If things fall in the right way, this is broadly, broadly scamming. Yeah, I mean, it seems you've argued it well enough. I don't know what the example would be. You're steering towards it. There must be a there must be a cameo coming up here. But I'll look forward to hearing who it is. Well, not exactly. So 13 players have batted on all five days. Ten of them made one century. Ten of the 13 players. Nine of those were first inning centuries. Alan Lam is the only player to make a century in the second inning as well.

Thatting on all five days of a test. There are no twin tons. There's only one double century. So I guess what I'm getting at is it's interesting that these are not totally dominant performances. You know, these aren't for the most part performances of like vast amounts of runs where someone bats for the entire test match. There's a score of in the 180s. There's a score in the 150s. The rest of them are smaller tons. Three players didn't make a ton while batting on all three days of a test match. ML Gisema, who we have talked about on the show with Burat some time ago that the super stylish 1960s Indian batter used to have the the Neckert Chief knotted around his neck, the Kravatt basically while he batted absolute stylist with the bat, made 20 not out in 74 and batted on all five days. Chateshwapajara, your favorite, made 52 and 22. That's the smallest aggregate of runs for somebody to batt on all five days of a test match. And Andrew Flintoff is the other one who made a couple of 50s but didn't make a hundred while batting on all five days.

Kawajas won impressive, right? So only has to face four overs on day one. That's his easy day. The full 90 overs on day two, there were no loss of overs, they got all of the overs in. Face to another 18.4 overs on morning three, so most of the session on morning three. And then had to come out and face 30 overs at the end of day four in the gloom and got through unscathed there. And then batted for another 42 overs on day five after a round delayed start to go late in that day. So a significant chunk of overs on four of the five days. There's Craig with two G's, a breath weight and Ted Chandapal, son of the great, who are there the only pair to do it on this list. They both did it in the test in Bulaway of 2023, which you remember we were monitoring scores from pretty closely. But they did have a range delays on day one. Only 51 overs on day one, only 38 overs on day two, batted into day three in the first innings for another 25 overs for breath weight, another 52 overs for Chandapal, who ended up with 207 not out.

That's the only double century made by a five days player. And then from day three, they bowed out Zimbabwe over three and a half sessions came back on the fourth evening to face 13 overs and then faced another 13 overs the next morning before both of them were out West Indies declared one. The test match. So that's a curiosity given they both did it at the same time. This one I totally forgot that this was a five day effort at a Rory Burns, Antibashton 2019, the innings that I described as the worst hundred over seen in my life. The horror, the horror only two overs on night one 88 overs batted all of day two 14 overs on day three. They got a lead of 90 and then Australia went big at four and a half and over set up a big lead declared was seven overs to go on day four burns batted through that and then got out early on day five. The first in the procession is he got out to Cummins, but Nathan Lyons spurns through them. So a lot of these involved rain, Pajara's one very rainy week in Calcutta 12 overs on day one 21 overs on day two, you know, so he didn't actually have to do anything very much and ended up not actually making particularly big score in either innings.

They almost bolt actual anchor on the last day inside 26 overs when it looked absolutely destined to be a draw but somehow nearly pulled that one out of the fire. Kim Hughes lots of rain in the centenary test across the first three days where he compiled his 117 and then by day four he was 38 not out at the close went on to 84 on the last day declared set them a big target England didn't bother trying to chase it. But there was nothing doing on that pitch. So Kim Hughes is the one we've talked about a number of times before right having batted on all five days at that centenary test. Yeah, I mean, yeah, he's in in koarja the two that I sort of immediately when you started talking about it and I as you went through and I might roar he burns as well, but yeah, the others I wasn't across, but yeah, Kim Hughes due to the fact that it was sodden. He came back and made 80 something the second time around which which you know would have been brilliant, how he completed twin tons there just for the history of the whole thing given it was the centenary test and so on, which is perhaps in some respects better known for the last piece of commentary for John Arlett as much as it was for the cricket on the field that week.

There's a bunch that involve rain Elvira Peterson opening for South Africa against New Zealand lots of rain on day one and day two took him through to day three similar pattern there Andrew Flintoff at a test in India wasn't it. Rain across the first two days faced a couple of overs before stumps that kind of thing made a couple of half centuries they set India target and India ran it down easily Adrian Griffith for the West Indies actually battered for the entirety of day one. He's a rarity here for batting through the entire first day of the test match and a fair bit of day two and then after New Zealand's innings faced one over on evening three and then they forgot washed out so it's like you have to almost washed out. They got 29 overs in I think which took him through to day five where he faced seven overs and got out for 18 so didn't too much on day five. Ravi Shastry battered on all five days of a test match that one surprised me I didn't remember this. Yeah but he kind of got kind of what's the opposite of a hospital pass he got lolly popped this he got Dorothy dicks to this to an extent not in the first innings played well on the first innings so Ravi batting at six comes in late in the day this is against England he's got 26 runs by stumps doesn't score a run on day two because they barely got on lots of rain but faced a couple of overs.

In complete over numbers here so I'm not sure exactly what the overs are but then he bats all through day three I'm not sure how many overs they got but he got his his score up to 108 got out very soon afterwards the next morning for 111 and then India. You know they batted on for a while after that then spent the rest of they for and some of day five bowling out England and there was no time for anything else to happen but they had bold them out so they had to bat a little bit before they could shake hands. And the only reason Ravi Shastri gets to bat on day five is that he gets popped up to open having batted at six when they've got a bit of festival time he gets sent up to open with Manosh Prabhaka who's a baller and then when Prabhaka gets out Shivlal Gada get sent up who is a baller even further down the order the skipper was to know Gavasca what was he just looking after his stats sunny just not want to accidentally get out late in the piece or was it just party time yes England bowlers bold sending down 18 hours. So everyone got a trundle basically the lone wicket taker was Alan Lamb who is also on the five day batting list at lords this Alan Lamb stiff here I'll tell you what batting at number four enters late on day one gets out on morning two having only made 23 his teammates grind deep then they bowl out West Indies into day three by the end of that day lambs on 30 not out day four I don't have the over count but it can't be a full day but maybe six to 70 overs.

He gets to 109 then day five is out soon after that the innings is over soon after that they declare it nine down this is the match where they set West Indies 300 and plenty and Gordon Greenwich. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. It's on his own. It makes 200 and they win a 100 wicket down. Yep. So Alan Lamb would have felt that he's done as much as he could surely. Yeah well Foxy Fowler 100 and maybe even a double hundred Foxy I think you'll end the test match. Certainly at least 100. Double against India. I was India India sorry in 84 same year in 84 but still points stands at Foxy Fowler lords 100 Alan Lamb second hunt second innings and all completely offset by the remarkable batting in the fourth innings which remains a record on a couple of different. Yeah. Jeff Boycott the second to do it Trent Bridge 1977 when he came back into the team and then ran out Derek Randall and so on a battered late on day one battered all of day two and made 88 not out by the close crawl to his 100 by the third day came back for a few of his on the fourth evening and then made 80 not out in the chase on day five.

I'm pretty sure that's full play by overs. That's about 420 overs all up and it ended a bit early so this is a rare case where all of the overs were bold. And then there's Jai Smur was the first to do it the Indian stylist with the necker chief and the jaunty wrists. Why was he batting at number nine? I didn't know what he could do yet I assume this was his second test when he did this so his first test he played at lords, battered at seven and then opened in the second innings and didn't make any runs in either and then a year later at number nine makes 20 not out at the end of the first day and into the second. Australia bat a fair while into the third day by the end of the day wickets fall Jai Smur gets promoted to number four he's out there just before the close. I don't know if it rained or if they just batted really slowly but they for India out at 176 and teams did add amounts like that in a day at times in that era. Jai Smur goes from not not out to 59 not out in that day. I hope it was a full day. I hope you batted the full allotment.

Eventually got out for 74 well into day five so you know there was a lower order rally they saved the game set Australia target the Australia didn't try to chase but it is interesting once you put all of those together like how few of them involve the full complement of the match and I think and that's where coagious one really stands out because the time at the crease if you put that together like Pajara only batted four hours in 20 minutes to about all five days of test match went off that had five and a bit hours Kim Hughes five and a bit hours. Coagious about a 13 and a half hours and made a significant score in both innings to set up the result. What I'd say is that how many of them were player of the match performances. I mean three or four of the 13. It's probably not a bad measure. It's not a it's not a feat of brilliance all know it is not worthy. It's a feat of circumstance and a lot of the time quirk quirk of weather which is what I'm hearing you're answer that it's it's not a you know

batting on all five days is something that said like at some epochal sort of you know thing it's more that it's a quirky thing and it might mean about about a third of the time that means you've gone on and been the player of the match and two thirds of the time or maybe a third of the time you've done something substantial and a third of the time it's just a little bit weird and that's part of the only of the four players ended up in a win. Breathweight and Chandler go ended up winning that game boycott and coagir whether one's who genuinely were the dominant players who shaped how the game panned out in both innings I would say. Greg upon Tim's great to have you back with us. All right we have one more number for today it is a new pleasure we love a new pleasure get on board breathe breathe like don't breathe like be like Brad Guidotti who has rolled up with a five dollars fifty seven pledge if you join up like Brad you go to

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yeah big chassis four things there was there was the one in Alice Springs there was a neutral one in Canberra during that period where they were they were planning them ran and ran them other locations yeah no but then I got a bit more information I just needed a bit more on the clue to pat it out and the word was slam so grand slam grand slam slam dunk slam dunk bend dunk like I hear you going now now now it's coming into me so it's the slam was the you know the slam dunk bit right and from there it all came back to me very very quickly to the glory days of the Matador barbecues cup now called the Dean Jones Cup and rightly so but in all of the eras yeah for 50 over domestic cricket in Australia I reckon the Matador barbecue era was the one that had the best chance of reaching mercantile mutual levels of interest but maybe this is time of life stuff for me I acknowledge that this might have a little bit to do with the fact that I just finished

working in a pretty full on job and I was you know in what was tantamount gardening leave after politics in the October of 2013 Hawthorne just won the grand final I just moved back to Melbourne but what I will say is that that carnival starting straight after the grand final where the whole tournament was now being played in October using Sydney clubgrounds I mean they weren't using the SCG apart from I think the final you know Sydney your Sydney oval and bankstown and her bridge and heaps of grounds right her spill the key thing her spill that's right on her bridge the key thing and all of this was that it was on telly because this was the era when you still had the rights and you might remember it was just when TV networks were really investing in what was what I used to call in their second channel so it wasn't just about having you know the nine network in the traditional sense it was gem where every single day one game per day no day nighters there was a match that was starting at about 10 in the morning and finishing at about six o'clock at night in time for the news very old school but I am again it might

be an emblem of where I was at but it felt like the whole country was talking about the 2013 2014 Nettador Barbecue's Cup the first year of that as I recall anyway certainly the first year of the carnival and you know there was that that was the year when Warner nearly made a double ton when he was on the way back from his suspension in Birmingham played a couple of ashes test matches in 13 but you know Willie Wontey that enormous innings contributed to that Usman Kojah going to a new state and immediately making a hundred is Captain as well for the Bulls this isn't quite the Caxi era that follows when we're working in the game a couple of years later more formally in in 1516 and they take that through until the end of the TV rights deal of 17 18 went everything changes but before then they'd already tweaked it sufficiently that that carnival feel that idea of their six state teams they're all together they're playing a game every day everyone plays everyone then it's going to be you know second place third place first and then it's all over and done within the space of 20 days or whatever it was that it already been lost a bit in all of this and of course after that when the TV rights move there was never

going to be a carnival or anything quite like it once it moved to Fox tell because there wasn't the same I guess there wasn't the same the things moved around anyway that they play Schill cricket early in October and whatever else and different windows for the big bash that were needed because the big bash was expanded around that time but yeah like for those few years before they changed it I just feel like they just nailed it everything about it felt like it was working in sync and it was a bit similar to the big bash being you know as we've described it before you put on channel 10 at 7 30 at night and it was the purple team playing the orange team playing the you know the the the magenta team or whatever and it didn't enormously matter what the teams were it was the appointments of you thing at a much yeah I guess at a different level through that month of October in 2013 that's basically what was going on as this tournament had a bit of a second coming given that 50 over cricket in Australia over a period of time had been relegated it became a 40 over comp for a while it became 225 for a while it had lost its place

when it was on on Fox Sports in that time I think and it took until this game back to free to wear for it to really find some oomph again and yeah and this is really the moment when Ben Dunc becomes part of our world because before then Ben Dunc had played this from Queensland all the rest of it but it was this tournament that gave him the chance to really shine and others as well so I'm actually going to go one year forward from that romantic 2013 14 some other I've just reflected on to 14 15 which I had a look the dates were October 4 to October 26 bang on so right after the grand final you know you could still do it you know you could run it alongside the WBBL and you could do a version of this the only problem is that they now try and front load as many shield games as they can in October and November for the obvious reason that the test teams have in store that the infrastructure of Aussie cricket have insisted upon as much red bull as you can get before they break for the big bash before the test summer traditionally begin so it probably can't happen but you know this for a time had its moment okay I'll stop banging on

about scheduling and I'll get to the actual thing okay so in 14 15 Tasmania pumped the VIX and then they got rolled for 62 by WA, Haggwoods this midnight in Joel Paris for 413 I love these names another narrow loss to WA for Tasmania that was at North Sydney oval then they have a no result against South Australia a bankstown love these grounds I went to bankstown Jeff when I was young when I was a saying and I went to Sydney to watch the test match of 2003 where Steve War makes the last bull 100 on day five actually didn't go to the cricket because I didn't have a ticket or whatever so I didn't get to see what happened at the end of Catech 7 for what I did get do though I took my brother out to bankstown to see where the the War Brothers grandstand was I felt like I wanted to see that where Mark Ward had grown up playing and that type of thing real bad you see that is and to the day in question 18th of October 2014 North Sydney oval playing against

Usman Coagius Queensland where the Tasmanian Tigers and Ben Dunck breaks all of the rules and all of the records in the process I mentioned Warner in about 197 the season before no one had made a double hundred that was the highest one day domestic score in Australia to that point but you know no one had done the double until dunked the double and this was the day when he made his 229 not out opening the batting against Queensland in 157 deliveries now this is this is in this is in state cricket right because I'm pretty yeah it's just before the point yeah yeah but but no one had made a double in state cricket but not long before this was when Philip Hughes made a double against the South Africa side so he made the first to stay double yeah list day yeah yeah you're absolutely spot on this important distinction there by the way the one day's remistings man the one day that's really tournament yes yes yes yes because I have been a double ton made by

the black sitting a foot from me eating his afternoon tea right now the oval back in 2002 Ellie yep two of them two double hundred eager two of them he says two list day hundred double hundred he says to love that one one more famous on the other which was the world record and probably still is 268 268 I think it is still a list day record if it's not should be should be forever so dunks 229 the good thing is down bread he was there to tell us all about it how good this like cricket in fact was sending reporters to these games you know I mean these were real it just builds my point from before one day domestic cricket had its moment around these carnivals so bread I was there at North Sydney Able he tells us that there was short boundaries as they always are at North Sydney that it was a pristine pitch and it was a sunny day all the preconditions for carnage as it turned out to be so dunk put on 277 with Tim Payne 125 for the guy that went on to become the Aussie captain a few years on from this it was the highest list day stand in Australia at that point I use those words at that point judiciously

15 fours and 13 sixes for Duncan when I watched some of the highlights which were on the newsreel on YouTube just absolutely pelting it to all parts but what was interesting looking at the card it was from a conventional base they were none for 78 from 20 they were going at not even fours at the 20 over marks remember the old Richie Benno double you score at 30 that was it wasn't a double you score at 30 this is probably one of those we in double you score at 40 which will 35 at the very least which was quite common in the in the World Cup that followed later in this summer in in the early months of no when was the World Cup early months of 2015 yeah yeah this is the same as the World Cup summer isn't it so this is that that same stretch hopes open the bowling and took none for 38 from 10 so it was to know what was to come presumably hopes all these overs off the top Peter George how are the how the boots going Peter George remember a few years ago he came in and did an interview with us on radio how he developed a boot that was going to help bowlers keep their foot behind the line I hope that actually happened he took one for 101 he was the only wicket as they tallied

398 for one so you know Queensland up against it however we are nearing the first wave of wasmania here 1415 is one year before the summer of wasman and any any as I said before we had a big summer the year before for Queensland does so again here he's opening the batting with finer word favorite Chris Hartley who Jeff I know you used to regularly he should have been given an opportunity for Australia yeah and I said that basically if you're a Queensland wicket keeper I think you should be playing for Australia if you wait second you should be playing for Australia if you Jimmy Pearson you should be playing for Australia if you Chris Hartley you should be playing for Australia you should still be playing for Australia to this day get him in there with English and carry I don't care make the comeback happen I don't know why I'm not from Queensland I'm not a wicket keeper but there is a soft spot in my heart for Queensland wicket keepers it all comes back to the great manian healy I'm sure so yeah so Chris Hartley doing the so I mentioned the record didn't stand for long 277 lasted about three hours because they put on 280 for their first wicket

and then reply in 35 overs. Koazia eventually bowled for 100 and plenty having gotten in front of me anymore by Evan Gulbus who is a probable finer word listen I certainly is engaged with our social media stuff but I love this era I love this era of domestic cricket Hartley is eventually run out by Andrew Fekkerty who's another player that we've told stories about the Hungarian who was nearly a Hungarian by descent who was in Bangladesh in 2015 I watched him bowl at North Sydney over the next year for Victoria maybe the year after that when he was playing in the Matador Barbecue's Cup when I was up there covering it for I guess was covering it for the ABC I suppose and then yes then Burns made 48 knot outs on route to test selection two months later I think about it because Joe Burns made his test to do on boxing day 2014 and he's there at the end with Peter Forest to made a hundred on one day to be so all of these names from domestic cricket at the time they chase it down easily in 47 points to

overs 8.5 runs and over and you've got to put that into the context of the time yeah 398 place 402 is unheard of in in in 2014 this this wasn't happening it happens a lot more now of course in domestic cricket you see your 400s happening 50 over stuff but not then it didn't yeah and yeah well it's just starting to in in in ODI's because that's your monster AB DeVillius becomes a monster era that's four four players outside the circle rather than five and those massive scores do start to to come up around that leading up to that 2015 World Cup and during it as well there are a couple of 400s during the World Cup West Indies and Canberra and Martin Guptal has South Africa game at the Cape 10 South Africa in South Africa in Canberra they get 400 against Ireland yeah you're right it does happen a bit more from then I guess and the year before was that the proliferation of high scores with India playing Australia in that crazy seven game series so with four four outside the

circle lent itself to I guess stuff like this didn't that but yeah feckity as we said before he's the only wicket taker with the ball the man who didn't quite I often discuss this with Mark Dwyer Verve who I played bit against each year who who who played a lot with feckity and how close it was to him having been a test player in twenty fifteen and how sad that was but anyway life goes on so eight hundred runs scored what is five fifty seven have to do with they Jeff as we get towards our actual answer it's the combination of the opening partnerships 277 and 280 the two record breaking stands that is five hundred and fifty seven interestingly or otherwise I mean it wasn't really about six hitting it was more about the four hitting you know Queens I need a lot more falls than than Tasmania in that chase so they did it in a more I suppose calculated way less explosive way they did it all the way through the fifty over is not just at the back end and then the riddle let's go through this here this is what I think anyway out of the four opening bats the defector would have been Usman having moved

to Queensland the leader pain by dint of the fact that he went on to captain Keria later in his career I think the pro is heartly because he was such a professionally what he did and the talent was clearly bent and the yeah and the talent was clearly been done because you know bendunk was and I will come to him at a moment but he was such a talent and and his star did burn pretty brightly at the start of his career if you're wondering about double hundred in this day cricket in this particular tournament and Darcy short holds the record now 257, which was made in 2018. Travis had got a 230 in 2021. He also got 202 the year after this in the in the in the in the Matador BBQ Cup era when Travis had was storming his way into one day calculation, making it a little bit later. I think he made it to be in 2016 in the Caribbean or thereabouts. And yeah, in terms of scores made the highest score in Listay cricket in Australia 435 for 9. Tazzy again against South South Australia, but that was long after Ben

Dunk finished his six years as a Tasmanian representative. Dunk, look, you know, he had a pretty good run. He has 20 teams on his Crick in Faye Page, Jeff. The old Dirk Natter-Smetrick, right? However many teams got on your Crick in Faye Page. Not a bad measure for how how you was seen. Burr I made the point that he was probably the last player picked from the Big Bash, who was okay for the IPL that is. They went, okay, you know, if the Big Bash is good enough for you, it's good enough for us, but it doesn't happen quite so often these days. But he did have his brief stint in the IPL, but he's a proper journeyman. He's played everywhere. He got his five-opportunity to play T20i cricket just after this. In fact, only a few weeks after this innings, he got his taboo and he played five T20is. And you know, see, he got his own reward, like he got in the Australian cap. Not everyone has one of them. Even if Tasmania didn't do particularly well in the comp, having been beaten, nothing made $398 might give some sense of how they were tracking with the ball. But a very, very tidy white ball career. And one Jeff that I was surprised to

learn is still going. He played this year, in the middle of the year, for the Red Lions, in the EU T20 Belgium tournament, where a few people I know were out there in administrative roles. Trotty was coaching there. Archbishop Azad has been on our social media channels that the Lord's Performance Center. He was out there as a bowling coach, a few others were out there as well. But Ben Dunck was there. I wonder whether he was wearing that hat he used to wear. Remember, he used to wear the wicketkeeping, wide brimmer with the stars that had to have to pull the string, like one of those had to wear a primary school where you'd pull the string up to tighten up to your chin. Do you remember when he wore that wicketkeeping in a big bash game? Is that ring a bell for you? Oh, yeah. Yeah, dimly. Yeah. In the midst of time. I hope you're still wearing it. I hope you're still wearing it when he plays T20's in Belgium. He wears it in the shower. I hope you wear it in bed. And all I'd say on enclosing on this, and thank you ever so much to Brad for giving us the chance to go back to a new era that clearly I'm very, very fond of. He's bringing back the

Matador Barbecue's Cup. Give the 50 over, Compat Chance, give piece of chance. My case is made. I am done. Turn as in turn the Dean Jones Cup into a carnival again. Carnival, you're saying? Bring back carnival. What I want back carnival. Exactly. All I want is six teams playing each other. Everyone playing each other once in the same place. How many games is that? You're good at this. Six plus five plus four plus three plus two plus one, isn't it? To work out. I guess it would be so. I'm pretty sure that works. Six, 11, 15, 15, 18, 20, 21, a set me in the 23 games. 23 games in 23 days. There you go. I know it's hard. Can we put it on telly somewhere? Probably. Can we make it free? It doesn't need to be free. It doesn't need to be free. I mean, the way that K.O operates these days with everything on multi screens, we could, you know, there's there are ways. There are ways. There are ways. Five bucks to watch the the manager to watch the day.

Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Dunk. Dunk had his little did have his moment in Australian colors. It didn't. I don't remember the specifics, but I remember it didn't explode. There was a bit around that time. 24 dinners also when they they sent a big bash team to the T20 World Cup effectively. The Australian selectors went, okay, whoever does well in the domestic tournament will be the Australian team, which I thought was a fair enough thing to try. It didn't work out. They they they they they the time. It was it was Michael Klinger and Brad Hodg and Brad Hogg and and that sort of band of players who done the business in the domestic comp and so that was fair enough. Chris Lynn played a fair bit of Australian cricket around that time. He spent time going stood out because he didn't stand out because he had no discernible facial features. He's got like the most neutral looking head I've ever seen. It's like a billiard ball. It's incredible. It's got a face to that guy who says, you know that meme that says

that the person the worst person you know has made a really good point that that face to that guy and that man. Yeah. It's a little like that, but that guy does have some features. I have had this memory of perhaps slightly unkindly riding a lion that that that Ben Dunk looked like a bag of flour two holes poked in it. That was his face. But that's it's you know that's I've just looked him up again and it's it's not untrue especially with a cricket helmet on there's there's just there's nothing happening under there. It's just it's completely unreadable blank. Yeah. So I've gone from high-pink and he's just this to high. I've gone from high-pink. He listens to it. The high-pink he doesn't meet me. Yeah. Look we can't help how we look you could you could find many amusing ways to describe my appearance or yours or anybody else's that's what Cartoonists do is they they find the details and exaggerate them and sometimes a rider just needs to find a good line but you know I was struck by by how little the features stood out from the hole but I was also struck by the fact that he could whack a cricket ball a long way and he did

that and it sounds like he's still doing it in Belgium so long may that continue. Jeff that's us done for Storytime 285 as we mentioned before join us on Patreon dot com slash the final word to be part of what we do we also give away free things as far this day this weekend in Australia the Maury Candle discounts in the code but you can win candles give them to your relatives give them to your friends they do great work they're in Sydney but yes far this day so much of what we do we already mentioned off the top of the show what's going on we've done confidently probably should have drawn the socks and jocks link to to step one as well in hindsight the right time to buy lots of things for people in your life if you're in that part of the world or with generous final word discounts and I think that's yep probably where we'll leave it today fun as always we're on a good roll with these here we've made 285 of these now which is scarcely believable always left for me to say is to have a nice weekend

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