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In the third hour, Matt Spiegel and Kaitlin Sharkey reflected on how Clippers owner Steve Ballmer directly lied to ESPN reporter Ramona Shelburne regarding accusations of salary cap circumvention with star Kawhi Leonard. After that,CBS-2 sports reporter Jori Parys, joined the show to reflect on signing the national anthem at the Cubs game Thursday evening at Wrigley Field.

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I'll tell you before this season started, they said the Dodgers are ruining baseball. Let's get four more wins and really ruin baseball. Let's go. Sports Series could end on one swing in either direction. Here's the O2 pitch. Fouts as well. Welcome back. Let's do the back. Move it up. Forfeite the chip. You got an outcome out of the Dodgers stand tall. And went back to back titles. I respond to the flow back the Dodgers are breaking these. Passionally disagree. The Dodgers are an absolute behemoth built by tremendous amateur scouting, proscouting, development, excellent leadership by Andrew Friedman on the baseball side. And big, big, silly, ridiculous television money that just doesn't exist anymore for anybody.

Mark Walter is the owner of the Dodgers, he and his Guggenheim group. The center of the latest Pablo Tory finds out investigation that is underway. There's a new Pablo Tory finds out episode that has just come out. And there's not a ton of new stuff. But what it really does is it sort of like maps out everything in a really, a really clear and concise way. And basically Mark Walter has been playing kind of an elaborate shell game where he takes money from one investment and gives it to another investment. And then he ran out of money and he used money from insurance companies who are basically, you know, taking money from, from Americans in some interesting ways. And he banked on that and it's, there's lots of details he can get into. And I think we'd bore people with a lot of the finances. But suffice to say that the Dodgers owner who was also the Laker's owner is probably going

to have to sell the Dodgers pretty damn soon. He just sold the Lakers. He flipped him like a condo in like a year turnaround. And now he's probably going to have to sell the Dodgers. And with all their deferred money and everything that's going on there, it's going to be really weird to see how that affects MLB labor piece in the off season because the Dodgers are a big, big deal as the kind of the template for what a lot of owners think is everything that's wrong with MLB. So it's a fascinating moment. And I don't put anything past Pablo Torrey in that little investigative beast of podcasts he's put together, which is an incredibly powerful thing. And it's important for journalism and it's important to, I feel like there's always this thought that I mean, maybe it's just maybe in cynical. But like shady business is what makes the world go around in some respects and not in a great way. Especially when it comes to sports. So I mean, it's first of all, it's hard to fathom the amount of money that is being moved around and put into these things and the money, the value of these teams on a level of talking

about like flipping teams and selling teams. It's just tremendous. And it doesn't surprise me that things are being done. And unfortunately, it just leaves a mark on the entire organization. Like, you know what I mean? Like it takes away from, you think of the Dodgers and you hear all of this and all these investigations, even the Clippers. And it takes away from everything that is pure about the sport. It's like, well, we're not even talking about the players or what the team's going to look like. It's more of like, how is this going to affect labor deals and how is this going to affect baseball? It's like, you're not even talking about the players anymore. And the sport itself and the game changing, you're like, we've lost it all. You're right. And here I am wanting to do it. What the hell's wrong with me on a Friday afternoon? I'm here for it. You're supportive. I'm supportive and I appreciate it. You know what it is? And the thing is like, the Dodgers kind of broke the finances of baseball with all the deferred money. And there's like, what's interesting to me is that there's a lot of people saying, well, everybody could do it. I mean, if the Dodgers do it.

I hate that. Because it's not true. Right. Because what the Dodgers are doing is leaving it for the next ownership group to deal with. And now that next ownership group might be coming very, very soon. And maybe it'll lower the valuation of it. I know who they all know. Who knows? But they did it in this really kind of interesting way. I've been talking to people walking here. We've been talking about next year and I'm sitting there saying, I'm not going to be here. Exactly. Not going to be anywhere near this thing. So we'll see what happens with that and how far the Poblotory investigation goes. But let's look at the Clippers thing for a minute. Okay. Because we have another chance to talk about it. The Clippers with their massive punishment from the NBA, which completely vindicated the journalistic work of Poblotory. I wanted to shine a light on just how just how freaking dishonest Steve Balmer, the Clippers owner was. And just how shameful the faux journalism has been at ESPN.

ESPFN, which once had like this vaunted journalistic department, unfortunately can now not be trusted. And I really hate that Don Van Nade's name was attached to the article that came out a couple weeks ago about the Clippers penalty upcoming, which basically said, I think it might just get a slap on the wrist, which is absurd. Observed that Don Van Nade's name was attached to that. But what came before that was a year ago, Ramona Shelburn got Steve Balmer, the Clippers owner to sit down for an interview. September 4th, 2025. And Steve Balmer went on there with Ramona Shelburn and refuted Pablo Tories reporting by lying through his F and teeth. Up front, I want to say one thing very clearly. We, the Clippers, have abided by the salary cap circumvention rules because that's the

right thing to do. And we have done that. I happen for what it's worth to think it's a very important rule in terms of promoting competitiveness and equal playing field across the league. But whether I agree to it or not, it's the rule. And we've absolutely abided by that. So how do you define that rule about, again, salary cap circumvention? Well, there's obviously writing in the league rulebook on this. But I can make it really simple. We cannot pay a player anything beyond what's in his standard player contract. And we cannot cause anybody else to pay the player what's beyond their standard contract. And that would include, for example, sponsors and doors. That is for voting. We can't do that. And we didn't certainly in this instance. I mean, we can have sponsors. The players can do endorsement contracts.

We can do sponsorship deals with the same companies that they do endorsement contracts. We cannot have any involvement in their negotiation with the companies who sponsor them. We didn't in this case and we never have. Man, that's crazy. We didn't, huh? That's crazy. It's I, and we could do a whole cycle analyst study of how people can just lie. Like that blatantly, people do it all the time. Let's not pretend that people don't do it all the time. But to hear it is so jarring. And there are many times, and even sports, when we've heard, I did not cheat. I did not do this. I did not do that. Well, it turns out you did. And I always think it looks so much worse when you circle back and find out like, hey, we can play a clip of you blatantly lying and then be justified in it. Yeah. Like, you don't think that's going to come down the pipe at some point? Well, there's different kinds of lying too, right?

Right. There's like, omitting. Well, there's the omitting. There's how about the lying out of fear that you're going to get in trouble or upset somebody that happens kind of emotionally in a moment. And I'm not excusing that, but it's a little more biologically understandably. Reactive. Yes. Yeah. And then there's the omitting of like, you know, I'm not going to share that because it's probably probably just not good. And then there's calling up Ramona Shelbert and saying, can we sit down for 15 minutes? So I can lie to you. So I can just lie through my F and teeth to you. And can I use you as a relationship? And then you establish, so that's kind of like transactional journalism relationship. Like just to call somebody up and say, would you give me a chance? You don't want to remind me of, remember when Alex Rodriguez stormed into WFAN to sit down with Mike Francesca after taking a big L in a courtroom in New York.

And like, I think if I remember correctly, like he bailed and they found a way to like, not actually deal with the charges at hand. And he immediately marched over to WFAN and took over the radio show and lied for 10 to 15 minutes in Francesca. Let him go because, you know, it's good guest. It's good. Yeah. Lies are not sometimes it's just entertainment and you got to decipher what it is. But that's the line of entertainment and journalism that you know, you've ever been sitting there interviewing somebody and what 17 years doing TV sports? Some like 14 14. Yeah. Ever had somebody just sitting there completely lying to you and you knew it? Yeah. Yeah. But I'm like, what are their names and what are they? I always say the book or the podcast after I'm officially out of this career will be enlightening. Oh, good. But I think it's just like you understand. I think it's the levels of line like you're saying, right? It's like what's the intention behind it? Like if you're calling me up in this case to do a story and I want a platform so I can

lie, that's so next level than like, like you said, in this moment, I'm kind of back into a corner. I don't know what to do. In fact, there could be a domino effect. I'm just going to lie. Like it's just bizarre. But yeah, yeah, there's times you're like, that is not true. Yeah. You know, and it's just, to me, it's just an understanding. I'm very someone that like, oh, stores that away in the back of my mind. So like now anything you tell me moving forward, I'm just going to be like, oh, yeah. That makes that makes all the sense in the world. I'm glad the Clippers got absolutely torched as they should. Yeah, as they should. And you know what, the rest of the league is actually glad too. Like I was reading something where I think it was on a defector where they had reached out to a bunch of executives on other teams. And they, the overwhelming sense was relief from the other teams like, okay, good. Thank you. Because Adam Silver didn't go soft. And now the rest of the league knows that it is a real, a real deal situation. That's important because if you start letting a little bit get away, like them get away

with a little bit, yeah, everyone else going to be like, well, they pulled it off. We got to figure out a way to pull it off. Caitlin Sharkey's nickname is, you know, shark because that's easy. But Lawrence Leonard, no, Lawrence. I think it was Lawrence. I think it was Lawrence. Pretty sure, pretty sure it was Lawrence. Calls you the butcher because that was, that was your name and what high school hoops or colleges. No, no, youngers, younger. Like it started like middle school hoops, middle school and then it went into high school because I just had five falls and I was going to use them. Yeah. So intentionally or were you just going to? Well, I wasn't out there just like hurting people. But I was a foot taller than everybody else on the court. Oh, yeah. I mean, I was 5'10 in second grade. So I was the kid in the class photo that was like standing in the back, you know, foot taller than everybody else. Yeah, I made somebody. So I, you know, my coach at the time, coach back, he was like, hey, butcher, chill out on the fouls. But at 5'10, if you're a foot taller than everybody else, it's sometimes is probably on them. They would jump in you. Behind the, the amount of the behind the back calls that I would get, I'm like, it's

all ball. What am I supposed to do? Not block the shot. They're 5'1. Yeah. There's like the principle of verticality. Oh, I hate it. If you're just standing there with your arms up, that shouldn't be a foul on you. And I'm like, at that time in youth sports, they don't teach the 5'10 girls how to ball handle. So all I have to do is get the rebounds and foul. So don't, you know, don't knock me for doing my responsibility. I bet they were bad free throw shooters too, right? Right. I'm just going to have a little hack a shack out there, send them a free throw line. Just two shocks. Get ball back. I'm taking you out. I'm taking you out. Yeah. I'm sorry. You're guessing that that a middle school team, a middle school girls team has struggled from a free throw line. Fresh from your. Yeah. It was just the pressure that you were assuming. I'm a bad free throw shooter too. So just just wondering. Yeah. Wait, you said second grade though. Middle school, second grade. I mean, well, second grade is when my height happens. Okay. I'm just saying I was a little bit of head of the curve.

So I feel like I was an easy target for referees in middle school and high school because they're like, well, look at her. She's right. But then we got to like junior year and I was no longer the tallest one. And then I, then my basketball career ended. I'm like, wait, I didn't pick up those, those power skills, power forward skills. And now I'm not the center. So I'm just going to, I'm going to interview the athletes from here on out Alex. You're deceptively tall. Like sometimes I don't realize how tall you are. And Tani's also tall. But I don't know like I've a long time relationship with Tani. Like when I was hanging out with you two in Vegas, I was like, who the hell are these giants? And why am I so short? Twin towers, seriously. It's a Keeman Ralph Samson right there. I just felt bad because you guys all met my brother Gabe. Yes. Who did play football. Also, yeah. Yeah. Do you want to picture us? Yes. It's description that Tani has of Gabe. It's if you were playing like a, you know, an EA sports game and Alex here was your

creative player. Now his brother Gabe, who played football, pictured that creative player Alex and you take all the sliders and you put them up to 99. That's, that's his brother Gabe. So a little bigger, you know, I don't know about the awareness, you know, or the intelligence, but the intangibles way lower. Way lower. Oh no. Well, the physical skills and all that. Yeah. The sliders are a little higher. He had made the same adorable joke to both me and Tani. Didn't he? He's like, sorry, I got to, sorry, I got to put up with this guy. Oh, yeah, it was elite dadding. I thought, you know, he does that to everybody. And Dan Quinn with Gabe too. Yeah. Alex, who's the same joke. Yeah. He showed some love to your son. We're not putting up with him. We actually enjoy him. We actually like him here. Thanks for saying that you're Mr. Kuhn. Your check is outside. Parents are harsh critics. Parents are harsh critics. My mom and my biggest fan of my harshest critic. Oh, really? She watched. Oh, she watches everything. She's probably watching right now, a live stream of this. Wow, really? She's going to have thoughts. She's going to be like, this is unique because she never sees me

in this kind of atmosphere. But texture says speaks. Your co-host is offering really good insight. Have you never heard her on the station before? That's Caitlin Sharkey from WGN television. This texture says to me, stop your hating BS. Steve Balmer's with $145 billion. He doesn't give an F about anything or anybody. That ain't bleep to Balmer. OK, that's fine. Yeah, I love the radio feedback. Yeah, yeah, the instant. No, look, it's good. Joking in TV, you don't know what you, I just pretend no one's watching. You don't get any feedback. Zero feedback. Unless you really bomb. Whenever we can cater for the billionaires, we got to do it on these airways. It's our public service to our listeners. It really is. We got to stand up and make sure the billionaires get the respect that they deserve. You've Kevin Warren, his tax breaks. Come on. Shovels in the ground by the end of 2020. Aquar. Seven. George McCasky too. 28, maybe I don't know. Speaks and Kaelen Sharky on the Speagle and Home Show on the score. Set up this next guest for us. Tees it.

Kaelen J. Gary Paris coming up. She's a singer. She's a sports anchor reporter extraordinaire at a competing station. But that's what, you know, that's what we do around here in Chicago sports. We're all friends. Women unite us. It's good stuff. So looking forward to talking to Jory Paris who covers all Chicago sports. And also has a beautiful voice. That's a tease for all you listeners out there. Stay tuned. The score is celebrating the start of football season with Miller, like and circus sports on Thursday. The day starts at 10 a.m. with Rahimi and Grote. Live from Cody's public house in Lakeview until 2 p.m. And from 2 to 6, it's the Speagle and Home Show live from Timothy O'Toole's in St. erville to live broadcast. Kicking off the start of football season on Chicago's sports radio. 104 3 the score brought to you by Circus sports. And spending the way it should be with no bet fees. And Miller light the official beer of the Chicago Bears.

I'm joined here now by two times Super Bowl champion and New Orleans native Peyton Manning. Peyton here in Nakedish. You're getting inducted into the Louisiana sports hall of fame. What does this mean to you? It's very special, Jory. I'm very humbled and honored by this weekend. Peyton, congratulations and thank you so much for your time. Thank you very much. Our very own Jory Paris was pitch perfect, singing the National Anthem. For the land of the free and the home of the brave. Jory Paris performing the National Anthem at Riggly Field tonight,

prior to games four between the cups and the brood. Speagle and Home's, afternoons on the score. Making her score debut right now is friend of Caitlin Sharkey. And now friend of the score, Jory Paris from CBS sports Chicago. Welcome, Jory. Joining us on the score hotline brought to you by Potawatom and Hotel, the Midwest, best casino. That's you doing the anthem last night at Riggly Field. It sure was. Wow. What a way to be welcomed onto the show, you guys. I can't thank you enough for having me even had some throwbacks in that welcome from my first market in television years ago. So thank you so much for that and for having me this afternoon. How thrilling is it to do the anthem on the field at Riggly? How many times have you done it? That was a great one from last night. Well, thank you so much.

That was the second time that I've sang for the cups this year, which is pretty wild to say and surreal to say. It was another pinch me moment for sure, right? And Matt, I know this is something that you can probably relate to. You can relate to having done so yourself, but it's kind of an indescribable feeling and you try to stay in the moment as much as you can and stay focused. But you know, always an electric atmosphere at Riggly ended up being a really fun night as we know it as we're seeing kind of circulate here on social media with all the stars in the building. Just truly honored each and every time and really, really couldn't appreciate it more. Yeah, so two times so you've got one more than me. I'm John. I'm envious. I did it once last year. Hope to do it again sometime. But even if I never do, my God, it's like, that's a big room. That's a good room to play. I was going to ask, Jory, Jory, I mean, there's a different energy and I don't even like to use the word nervous because I mean, you get to this point in your career and sometimes, you know, you get amped up for a show and I'll be a little nervous before a certain

special or whatever we do on live television. But I cannot even comprehend the amount of nerves I would have to sing in front of a crowd at Riggly Field. What do you, how do you like manage that and what is it the same different? Like how are you feeling versus when you're doing live television at CBS Chicago? It's much different. It is not the same whatsoever. I'd be aligned to you if I said that I don't still try to manage some of the nerves when it comes to singing just because, you know, television, we're doing it, we're getting multiple reps and doing it day to day and the national anthem is not something that I'm doing every single day. I've done it quite a bit in my life. But yes, Riggly Field, the room is definitely unique because, as I mentioned, something I've only done twice and even yesterday, had a little bit of trouble in the beginning getting my breath underneath me and hope to just continue to make that get easier and easier. The moment is big and there's very few performances where it's just your voice in a microphone for two minutes and, you know, just credit to anybody who's ever performed it because

it is a beast of a song vocally as well and just a lot of fun though too. So it's one of the first things that people tend to ask me is how nervous do you get the answer? The nerves are there. I'd be lying if I said they weren't. And the lady and excitement are experienced exactly the same physiologically. So it's intellectually how we frame that. Excitement is good. Yeah. You know, so you just got to realize when you're feeling that anxiety, no, no, no, that's excitement. But, you know, I'm a sucker as a performer, as a lifelong performer, right? You guys are talented singers though. I am not. So I would be bought. They would not even hand me the microphone. But you can relate to that feeling before the camera goes on. Yeah. Sometimes when you're feeling a little bit like things have changed. You're like, okay, we're just going to go out there and roll out there, right? It's exciting. Yeah. That's why you get in the business. At Jory, did you interact with your on the field and they're right behind the dugout are, you know, that incredible group of Chicago athletes Caleb Wilson, Caleb Williams,

Madis Busellis and also Cole Bennett was there. He's the the music video director and the executive. They lyrical lemonade guy, a Chicagoan as well. Did you interact with that group? I did not interact with that group. So I was actually at the game with my family, which is a rarity as you guys know in this business as well, right? We don't always get to go to games in a different capacity when we're not working. But I will say we were in a section, a very close section to where they were at and saw them kind of go down there. So, you know, I made a point of like, oh, yeah, hey, I think that's, you know, so and so. So to see the videos come out the next day and then to see that moment happen, like not too far. You know, from where we were, I was definitely fun and just what a time to be in Chicago. If there is ever more of a time to brag like Chicago has always been known for having such a great sports sound, right? Like this is not news to anybody. But truly what's going on here right now is special and that was just all, you know, shown in kind of one little video there with all the stars around town and then supporting

each other. Like it was just it's been really fun to see and I kept watching that video probably like 20 times already today. So it was fun. Jory, you are, I mean, you're born and raised in crystal lake. You cover your hometown teams and you joined the sports team at CBS Chicago and I think it was like October of 22. When you think of this like your journey in those moments, I mean, it's one thing. This is a real experience of singing the national anthem at Rigglyfield. But to cover these teams that you grew up cheering for and we're immersed in how special has it been? What have been some of the moments that stand out to you like, man, here I am. The hometown kids just cover in Chicago sports. I know there's a few of us in the market that are from here, but I will say they still happen all the time. You know, even if it's singing yesterday, like I think back to the younger version of myself that was going to those games, right? And you know, just watching these teams and even thinking back to some of the stars that like when I was in high school and seeing and you know, how maybe it's different now

and how things have changed. But I guess to answer that as quickly as I can, like it still happens daily and it kind of depends on the story and what's going on or maybe where we are in the day. But just being in this market is truly a dream come true. This was always something that I aspired to do and try not to take a day for granted. So grateful to be at CBS and everyone there. Just welcomed me like a family. It is a family over there and just grateful for every day. It's awesome. What did you make of Pete Crow Armstrong's excellence last night, especially against low change up for a Homer against that picture, Logan Henderson and just overall the PCA star turn has been remarkable, hasn't it? It's been something and it is as special as we keep saying it is as well, right? It's, I mean, this tear that he's on is just something that does not happen every day and every single game you're going into it thinking that something can happen and he

just keeps producing at a level that's unique. And yeah, with all to be said yesterday with all of his friends in the building, right? He cracks the game winning home run and then the difference in the game just all is like this narrative and this script that just felt so Chicago and so right. He just keeps building his case for MVP. What can we say? It's been fun. How fun is it? I feel like in sports coverage, right? We have these merging of seasons and we often it's stressful a little bit on the personal life and on our time management. But my favorite time of the year is like the bears are kicking off the season. There's good baseball. This year it's good baseball on both sides of town. The bulls, there's a lot of excitement around them like can you describe how much that just anxiety and good anxiousness, energy of like, man, we're about to enter the mecca of the time of year. I think in Chicago sports. Of course, crossover season is always what we look forward to, right?

But it is different this year because of everything we have going on. We've got to play off, found very likely baseball teams. The bears are in a position and have an excitement around them that we haven't had in a long time coming off a division title and play off win. And the black hawks having Patrick Kane back, having Conor Bidard potentially when he comes back healthy playing together on the same team. Like there's reason to be excited about every team in town right now and a palpable one. And so we just can't get as much as I don't want to rush time because no one wants to do that because it's going to pass anyway. But I can't wait till we get into the next couple of weeks in October and things really start to hit the ground running here and the bulls too, right? You know, we've got Caleb Wilson who is making himself known in town before he plays a regular season game with the bulls and modest who's Alice and just his continued growth as a young player and the young core they've developed there. Like they're again, new head coach, like there's just been buzz around each professional team here in town for good reason.

And we haven't had that in a long time. So I clicked over to your ex account, your Twitter account here, Jory and the pinned piece, the pinned story is something you did for CBS News.com. Last year about bearish players incorporating Pilates into their workout routines. And it's funny because like my wife does Pilates every morning and it's been transformative in her life. She loves it. I had Jake Arietta on hit and run the Sunday and Jake was the guy who brought Pilates to the Cubs locker room in 2015, 2016. And I asked him any players that he passed it on to. He got reformers custom made Pilates reformers for Kyle Schwarber, for Ian Hap, for Bryce Harper in Philadelphia. Like, what a gift. I would love that. If you get a custom made reformer, like he, so he passed it on. So I mean, it does, it does wonders for athletes and their flexibility these days, doesn't it?

It sure does. That was such an intriguing piece to work on last year. And actually somebody else that said that they incorporated Pilates into their routines here in training camp that we learned is Jalen Johnson, right? And you know, one thing that I learned from both the players I interviewed in that story is that they use it for recovery. They use it for preventing injuries and just, you know, kind of the deeper muscle and strength and everything that Pilates does for you. But they saw a benefit on the field. And I just think that's fascinating. And we've seen it maybe emerge in more professional sports. Jalen Johnson coming into his season fully healthy is something that the secondary desperately needs. And you know, is hearing him maybe talk about how that's helped him as well as just a testament to the style of workout. And it's really fascinating because they all walk away saying to is like, these are these tough football players. They go through more physically than we know. And they're like, I can't get through these workouts. They kill. They hurt. I have done Pilates before myself. And it somehow does not get easier.

So yeah, definitely a fun one for sure. That was last summer. So fun. Great story. Jory, so great to have you on the show making your score debut. I was so excited to have you on and tremendous job last night. And I'm sure I will see you at a football stadium, a ballpark or wherever around the city of Chicago here soon. Absolutely, you guys. Thank you so much for having me. You got it. It's Joey Paris right there from CBS Chicago. Jake Arietta had said that you had to get custom made bigger ones for the for the baseball players for for he and his friends. And in the conversation, he said, well, Joseph Pilates was a very short man. And I hadn't realized there was a Mr. Pilates. Did you know that? There's a person that was named after and it's a dude in a German dude who came to America. Yes, I'm reading Wikipedia. Yeah. Forget it. But anyway, he was small. I'm doing that over here. I've been doing that a lot. I have. I have been. I have been. You know why? Good source information, Alex.

That's what I was told in school. My trust issues cannot. So my teachers all told me. I choose cannot. No. No. You don't trust it. I mean, no. What could possibly be wrong? Right. People are so blindly trusting everything. And I've been that way my whole life. So now I'm like, really like, are you sure? Let's triple check it. Oh, boy. Yeah. Where should you Britannica.com? Britannica want to throw back. Yeah. Well, anyway, I think it's still a thing. Still a thing? I think it is. I don't know. It used to be. That's for damn sure. But, uh, but anyway, all right, top of the hour, we will touch on Cubs and Socks and get you ready for the weekend. When we come back, the highlight of our Vegas trip where we all hung out together was clearly when Caitlin did 15 minutes with a Spiegel and Homes show in a cabana. That was obviously the highlight of her time in Vegas, right? We'll check it on that next on the score. David Haul and Jared Peyton talk to you, the Chicago sports fan. Mornings 530 to 10 on the score. Tony and Joel, yet welcome to home patent.

Congratulations, Jared. I couldn't be more honored to be the first caller in this new chapter of your life. I just want to say, Jared, you know, you are Chicago and as part of the core family that all the fans are welcome. And we love you, man. Let's go. Tony, thank you, man. Love you. Wow, man. I just got chills, David. I got chills. The Haul and Peyton show on your way to work. Mornings 530 to 10 on sports radio 104 three the score and live on the free Odyssey app. I love a good French onion dip with chips, of course, but also like sliced cucumbers. And I feel like I'm getting a little bit of health along with the delicious dip. And of course, chicken wings, Daisy French onion dip is outstanding. Football season means game day snacks. And that can be chips, wings, veggies and plenty of Daisy French onion dip. A great tasting creamy flavors, what you get. It's made with real herbs, spices and simple ingredients you recognize delivering a fresh homemade flavor in every single bite.

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And you were lounging. Because we're like, like two Chicago media superstars hanging out with beverages. I think there might have been French fries. There was some babies. Chicken Caesar wraps there. Yeah. A bottle of rosé and French fries. What work could we ask for? That's how you do it. And Backstreet Boys. We saw them in Vegas, Ruthie Polinsky and Kaelin Sharky did Laurence and I and Tani and Alex. We're all out there. And if the highlight wasn't the 15 minutes of radio we made, was it seeing the Backstreet Boys at the Spher? What was that like? It was incredible. My Millennium Heart was just like, I mean, it was the 25 and 25 year anniversary of Millennium album. I was 10 years old when it came out. It was just the Backstreet Boys were all over my bedroom walls. Like, it was just, and at first I was like, I don't know if I'll remember all the songs and I know the big ones. I knew every word, every deep cut on every random album they had from like 93 to 2000.

I was so into it. It was such a spectacle. The Spher is incredible. They look, they sound good. I mean, part of me had to be like, man, Kevin's 56 now and out there just dancing around in his boy band. Love that for him. You can still do it. You can still do it. I'm testament. You can be in your 50s. There's still make music out there. Tribute of Soros doing the hoot tonight. They still look stalky. They still look stalky. They're related to story. Love that. But yeah, so, wow, was the crowd? Because the next day when I was on a flight home, there were two women wearing Backstreet Boys sweat shirts that might as well have been you and Ruthie Bletsky. We did not get any merch. We did not get any merch. We did follow the requested dress code for a Backstreet Boys concert. Which is what? You have to wear all white with like pops of silver or blue. Like, it plays off their millennium album. So it was everybody in the place was wearing white. It was so cool. It was fun to see like the throwback hair. Like millennials were their super fans.

And now we're just super fans with money. Because back in the day, like my mom had my first concert was Backstreet Boys. My mom took me to go like saved at the money, went to the what was the Bradley Center in Milwaukee. Was like the highlight of my childhood. So now 25 years later, I'm like, this is even better. When you were at that at that concert when you were what, 10 or 11 years old, did anybody go, oh my god, it's the butcher. No, it's not. No one had an idea. I do remember that Cisco opened. So that was part of the core memory. Oh, hell yeah. And Tanya, you were at the sphere the next day. I was. And I stayed and make too much of a mess the night before at the Backstreet Boys. So yeah, I saw Wizard of Oz at the sphere the next morning. Because that's what you do in Vegas. You get nutty. You go see 11 a.m. Move. But it was I'm glad I did it. You know, look, I'm not going to be this guy and like, you know, poop all over it. But I had some issues with it. But overall, I'm glad that I did it. Let's just say that. Yeah, it was that your first time being in that being in that place. At the sphere. Yes. That's my first time. It's outrageous. It's insane. It's insane.

Like I feel like everybody should find a way to make a trip there. And it doesn't. Here's the thing about the sphere. Go see one of the recreation concerts. Yeah. Spend less. Like if they, I think they still do the you two show. Well, they'll just play the music and do the videos. Yeah, see the production value alone is what sells it. That's why you're there. Sometimes an afterthought. Right. Right. And if you don't have a great seat, you can't even see those guys on stage. They're so small. But like, you're just constantly looking around like my neck was sore because I'm just like on a circle just looking everywhere. It's fun. It's changed the game. Yeah. It completely redefines the way that the concert industry is going to function for the rest of our time. No, it totally does. That's awesome. I'm glad you guys had fun. Yeah. I don't feel as bad that our hit was not her favorite part of the trip anymore because you can't really beat Backstreet Boys at this. There were a lobster corn dog. It was a freight of the lobster corn dog, guys.

Why? It was 115 degrees. Yeah, you came up there. They were not refrigerated. I'm like, how long have they been sitting out here in your cabana? A couple hours. There was mayonnaise on top of that. Yeah. No, that had. I only, whatever. No, I was, I was not about to. Yeah, hot mayonnaise is not, is not anything. White baked lobster corn dogs. Yeah. By the way, free plug for a show next Thursday night at martyrs, by the way, if you want to see your boy, speak, will sing. I started a new thing called CC in the Madman based on the fake radio show of me and my guy Kurt Morrison from Tribute of Soros. My dude. And we're doing all the best songs from the fall of 1986. Every great song from the fall of 1986 that was on the radio. We're doing 23 different songs, all different styles like Paul Simon, Peter Gabriel, Steve Winwood, R.E.M., but also Whitney Houston and cameo. Oh, hell yeah. Janet Jackson, Dion Warwick. It's got, it's all over the place. It's going to be crazy fun. Go over to martyrs martyrs live.com is the website where you can get it.

You can check out my Instagram, check out my Twitter. Very excited about this new musical project that's bringing me a lot of joy and happiness. So come see your boy sing on Thursday night, the 10th of September. By the way, the first week of the NFL season, next week we have a, we have a referee. Brad Biggs reports that the NFL has assigned Brad Allen and his crew to work bears panthers. Oh, not Brad Allen. NFL week one game at Carolina. I'm so sorry, Tani. I know your longtime Brad Allen basher long range forecast calls for a high of 89 degrees and Charlie. Does that a lot of penalties for a lot of penalties? Does that make it feel a little more real, Caitlin? Yeah, I love the bigs official crew tweets. Those are my favorite. I'm like, okay, bigs, he's all over it. Yeah, I was already game planning what I'm going to wear to the game in Carolina. You're going to travel for all the games. I will travel to all, basically all of them.

Yeah. So we'll see how the season goes in the later half, but hopefully it'll be all of them. Cause they'll just can't stop winning. It's big times in the media industry. This is when all your local radio shows like ours plot out and scheme out who the guests are going to be all week long for football season, which really drives the bus. And it's an interesting moment as we've been talking about because both baseball teams are interesting and intriguing and relevant. So that, of course, everything will be kind of mixed in together. But I can tell you that next week we have a special announcement of a bear's player that we're going to have on Mondays. On the speaklin' home show that we're very excited about. I've never spoken to this player, but he's an important guy. And it should be a really, really cool experience. Don't you think Alex is going to be really interesting to get a chance to talk to this bear's player? What, at five o'clock on Mondays? Five o'clock on Mondays. And I'll just give you this hint. We're going to have a certain position. That market is going to be cornered by the show.

We will have multiple people who either played the position. He currently plays the position on our show either weekly or throughout throughout the season. I'm confused. We're going to have a market of this position cornered to a newer type of situation. It's a three technique, but his defense doesn't have a three technique, Tani. That's so you're reading too much into it. We're putting Tommy Harrison. Yeah, I'm ready. He's fun and he's smart. I'll tell you that. This guy's fun and he's smart, right? Yeah, he's very smart. I like interviewing him. All right. Caitlin knows in speech. I said no. I'm still using everybody. I'm still using everybody. Wow. People who, Alex, what the hell are you talking about? Yeah, you know, find out. It'll all make sense on Monday. All right. It's all very cryptic. And someday I'll learn what's actually coming up in my own show. We're out of here at five thirty today. But before then, how amazing was the official accomplishment of one Pete Kroherm strong last night?

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