Since 9/11 Have We Become More Divided?

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2:06on our country. I have spoken to the Vice President, to the Governor of New York, and to conduct a full-scale investigation, to hunt down and to find those folks who committed this act. Terrorism against our nation will not stand. That of course was then President George W. Bush in the immediate aftermath of the 9-11 terrorist attacks he was told, and that was one of his initial statements on that faithful day. 820 now on the great W. R. K. O. Jeff Kuhner, Boston's bulldozer. Okay. Just to exclamation point with the previous caller Ned and Danvers, who said that he teaches just the facts about 9-11, and that he tells the full story, and that there is no left-wing

3:07conspiracy. Well, okay, New York Times, Washington Post, Wall Street Journal, New York Post, Daily News, Associated Press, I could go on, are all reporting that in curriculums and classrooms all across the country, Massachusetts, New York City, in the state of New York, including New York City, Wisconsin, Oregon, I could go on and on, that many of them are teaching what is called, quote, teaching beyond September 11th. And this is a radical retelling of the 9-11 Islamic terrorist attacks that apparently devotes only a single paragraph to the horrific attacks of that day, and in fact fails to even refer to the murderous Islamic extremists as terrorists.

4:08Literally, it did not even refer to as terrorists. And according to this curriculum, teaching beyond September 11th, by the way, funded by George Soros, and is in hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of schools across the entire country. It is banned in Arizona and in Florida. And Arizona just so that you know, are the only two states that mandate that every school teach about 9-11, and that they have a standard curriculum, a mandatory standard curriculum that they must teach. So everything else you can pick and choose, it depends on the district, the principal, the teacher, the individual schools, but that teaching beyond September 11th is being promoted and being taught in hundreds and hundreds of schools across the country, high schools

5:11and the first two years of college. And according to teaching beyond September 11th, by the way, you can look it up. Please, the curriculum is there for all of you to see. This has been widely reported. It focuses lessons, listen to this, on quote unquote right wing extremism. Not Islamic extremism. No, no, no, no, no. And of course, Islamophobia and the Oval Office and how this led to this apparent backlash against Muslims led to Islamophobia and that's the real lesson of 9-11. The curriculum, again, it's called teaching beyond September 11th. It was developed by the University of Pennsylvania's Graduate School of Education and Education Departments in Pennsylvania, Massachusetts, Wisconsin and Oregon all recommend teaching

6:14beyond September 11th in public schools. So I don't even know, I don't know if Ned and Danvers uses teaching beyond September 11th, but if he does, then he's teaching radical left wing hockum. I mean, it's garbage. It's propaganda. And so it gives nothing about the real motives behind Osama bin Laden, the jihadist motivations of these Islamic terrorists. And according to this curriculum, it's incredible what they stress that they say the teacher should promote in the classroom is that quote, the United States accused Saudi national Osama bin Laden living in Afghanistan at the time of being the mastermind behind the attacks accused. Well, no, as people have pointed out, he confessed.

7:19In fact, there were multiple confessions that been lawton made. In fact, he wrote a letter to the United States saying, I did it or I mastermind it and here's why. So he personally confessed repeatedly. And of course, the curriculum doesn't mention his broader campaign for decades of terrorism and his declaration of jihad against the United States and against the West, which by the way, this is what bin Laden said about the United States quote, he labeled it the quote worst civilization witnessed by the history of mankind. But instead, topics that they push in teaching beyond September 11th include surveillance of Muslims, again, so called Islamophobia, the Muslim and African ban and Muslim youth and

8:23resistance. That's what they're pushing in classrooms all across the country. So don't tell me there's not a left wing project. When the left itself says there's a left wing project to deliberately rewrite 9-11 to hijack the history of 9-11 and to erase the victims of 9-11. And I took the call over. There was a soft spoken calm gentleman on the other end. He told me that there's three people that have taken over the flight. That point I asked him his name. He told me Todd Beamer. He was from cranberry, New Jersey. I felt that he knew at that time because he has said, oh Jesus, help us. And then he said, Lisa, would you recite the lowest prayer with me? And I knew that he knew at that time that it wasn't much left for him to do.

9:23They're all here rolls in my eyes. They really are. They all pitched together and they deal with. They thought was the best thing to do at that time. And I feel that Todd played a great role in that because when he told the guys, are you ready? I assume that they were waiting on his cue. Then they responded to him and he said, okay, let's roll. That was the air phone operator. Todd Beamer was by the way, it's 831 on the great WRKO, Jeff Kuhner, Boston's Bulldozer. That was the air phone operator who took the call from Todd Beamer who was on flight 93 that eventually crashed in rural Pennsylvania. He wanted to, he called the operator. He wanted to reach his wife. He wasn't able to.

10:25He told the operator the flight has been hijacked by terrorists. We're about to storm the cockpit. We know that this plane is heading towards Washington, DC. We don't know if it's going to hit Congress or the White House, but they were fully aware at that time on the plane that the twin towers had come crashing down that the Pentagon had been hit. And that now they were either going to use it to destroy Congress, Capitol Hill, or launch a direct attack on the White House. They also knew that Washington, DC, very densely populated that this, you would see thousands dead, thousands more dead. And so they deliberately wanted to grab the plane, take it over and crash it in a rural area to try to save as many lives as possible. According to the air phone operator, she said that Todd Beamer said, please tell my wife

11:29that I love her. And then he asked the air phone operator if the two of them together could recite the Lord's prayer, the our father. She said they did. And then in the background, she said, you could hear, I guess other passengers telling Todd were ready, were ready. Let's go, meaning they're going to storm now the cockpit. And that's when he famously said, let's roll. And he led the charge. They broke through the cockpit. They grabbed knives. They grabbed forks. They were able to kill several of the hijackers. They got into the cockpit. One of the people, the passengers who actually helped Beamer and the other storm into the cockpit was, don't quote me on this.

12:30I don't know if he was a professional pilot or kind of an an aviation hobbyist, but he had, let's put it this way, flight experience. And their hope was if they could kill the hijackers that maybe this guy could somehow land the plane and save everybody on board. That was the plan. But instead the hijackers, the two pilots refused to get out of the, you know, out of their chairs. The plane took a dramatic nose dive. And apparently they were battling these two hijackers as the plane went all the way down into Shanksville, Pennsylvania. Apparently from the cockpit and from the black box, the hijackers were yelling at the end, Allah Akbar. Allah is the greatest or Allah is great. While Beamer and the others fought to try to rest control of the cockpit and try to pull

13:37the plane up or land it right to the very end. Now I am telling you that Todd Beamer is one of the greatest heroes in American history as everybody on flight 93. Beamer is almost forgotten today. Not by you, not by me, not by this great audience. But I doubt they even mentioned his name in classrooms. I doubt most Democrats don't even know who this guy is. I doubt most young people who were either just born at the time or born after have no clue who Todd Beamer is because they don't teach that in the schools. And I think it's a shame. Honestly I think it's a travesty. He sacrificed himself. They sacrificed themselves.

14:38And they didn't just save, I'm telling you, thousands of innocent American lives. Because if you know anything about Capitol Hill or the White House and where it's located, it is the location. It is densely, densely congested and populated. It would have been a massacre. Okay, it would have been a massacre. And I said this at the time at 9.11, I have said it for 25 years and I'm going to say it now. I remember the mood in the country as the attacks are unfolding. So you witnessed the twin towers come crashing down. They smashed the Pentagon. Had that fourth plane hit Capitol Hill, the very symbol of our constitutional republic or even worse, the actual White House itself. I believe you may disagree with me.

15:38This is just my opinion, my subjective opinion. I believe that the country would have gone so freaking berserk that they would have been so enraged, rightly enraged. It may have actually led to a limited nuclear strike on Afghanistan. I think the country would have just, as they say, lost their minds. And they would have said, you know what, you're going to hit the freaking White House or you're going to hit Congress itself and blow it up. And you've got hundreds of dead people everywhere, including obviously members of Congress or members of the White House staff or members of the cabinet. I think the country would have said, Nukum, a limited strike.

16:40And that would have changed the world. So not only do I believe Todd Beamer saved thousands of lives, but I believe he averted, again, just my opinion, a potential nuclear war because I think the country would have said to hell with it. Just level them. So I believe it was the hand of God. You are my honest opinion. I believe it was the hand of God. And I believe the good Lord put Todd Beamer on this earth for that very specific day and that very specific mission. Why there are not statues of this man? Why this is not mandatory in every classroom to teach about 9-11? The truth about 9-11, what actually really happened on 9-11, who the real perpetrators were, what their motives were, that these were Islamic terrorists waging a jihad against

17:42America and against the West. Okay, sorry, we may have had a temporary power outage, but no, Mike averted it. But Todd Beamer is one of the greatest American heroes in U.S. history. And I feel bad because this man does not get the recognition that he deserves. Just my opinion. 617-266-6868 is the number. I agree, disagree, Mike, who do you want me to go to next? Jane, sorry, Jane in and over. Thanks for holding Jane and welcome. There, first time caller, nice to meet you Jeff. Welcome, welcome, Jane. I got three points that rolled into each other and I'll start with the most important one. Could you just play that sound right there?

18:49Half-Mike or somebody look up Betty, the flight attendant, I don't know if you've ever heard this, but Betty is talking to a student, to a flight attendant. Oh wait, the flight attendant is talking to Betty. No, I've got that wrong. Betty is the flight attendant, she's talking to the tower and she's explaining that. People have been murdered. The first person to be murdered that day was my neighbor, first class, first seat, first playing. And you really need to hear this Betty conversation. It's really very, very moving. And my second point is when I woke up that day, I woke up to the classical station playing this version of the Erie Canal, that song, but it sounded like it was at an old Gothic granite church.

19:49It was like a magical, it was a massive chorus and it was just so eerie in itself. Then I turned on the TV, Crystal Blue Sky and boom, first playing. It was my neighbor. And then I knew right away, it was terrorism. And then the next thing that I wanted to mention was something that no one has ever mentioned to my knowledge. Can you do me a favor? I don't want to rush you and I want you to get this very important point out. Okay, I need to stay on. I'm number three on flight 11. Okay. And the cockpit is not answering their phone. I'm number one. It's got staff. I'm sure staff. Nobody knows who's that to and whichever gets a different property out because nobody can breathe. Don't get a good pocket with the door open.

20:53849 on the great WRKO Jeff Cooner, Boston's bulldozer. 617-266-68-68. That of course is stewardess Betty Ong calling and reporting now that and that happens to be the neighbor of Jane and and over. But that one of the passengers has been stabbed and murdered on that infamous flight. So where today is the 25th anniversary of the September 11 Islamic terrorist attacks. And the question I have for all of you. Are we more united or divided than we were then. And what is the great lesson that you believe we need to learn from that very faithful day. And and have we forgotten? Not you, not me, but not this audience. But the country as a whole, our collective consciousness is the memory of 911 fading

21:56is the left succeeding in erasing the victims. And erasing what really happened on that fateful day. Let's go right back to Jane in and over. Jane, please pick up where you left off. Okay, well, I'm sorry. I was so tongue tied talking about Betty, but to listen to that whole segment with her conversation with the tower is really upsetting. The other point, oh, well, Jane, so that question that you just asked, I want to say that yes, we've forgotten. The day that they allowed Islam to build a huge mosque directly across from ground zero, that's the day I knew we had forgotten. And nobody seems to remember except for a fast 24 hours once a year. But that said, I wanted to mention that my weird experience that day was watching the TV for hours.

23:03Everybody knows how blue the sky was that day, how bright the sun was. As time progressed, those colors, the technicolor on the screen faded slowly. And after a while, I don't know how long I was, a couple of hours, two hours. I don't remember. It was all gray. It was like turning from a color TV to black and white TV. All the color had gone. Everybody's face, everybody's clothing, the whole, the streets, everything on the screen was just a muted gray and not really black, but tones of gray. And it was just the strangest thing to watch because of all the dust and all the debris. So that's a point that I'll never forget. It just happened right before my eyes. And oh, Jeff, are you still there?

24:05Yes, of course. Go ahead, Jane. Okay. I'm going to go to the next point. In 1952, there was something created called the McCarran Walters Act. I was told that Nancy got rid of it. Before what I call the worldwide population redistribution program, just at the beginning of that, we need to bring that back. Oh, I agree. Oh, I so agree. Jane, I couldn't agree with you more. Jane, I have to tell you for your first time calling, you did very well. Please don't be a stranger. Call again, Jane. And thank you so much for sharing your thoughts on that fateful day. Look, just very quickly, we had sent a reporter into, into ground zero. It was almost impossible to get someone in there, but we got a really good investigative reporter. And we said, if anybody can make it, it's going to be him. And he made it.

25:06All this guy got by, there was security everywhere, police everywhere, military everywhere, but he got there. And I remember because I put the paper to bed that day. In other words, we had a late addition. I was there to like two, almost three in the morning. So I had put in like maybe 15, 16 hours that day. And I was speaking to him. And I'll never forget this. I said, you know, because we were discussing, what is he going to write on? What does he need to do? He needs to look for what's the angle for the story, what's he seeing? And this is what he described. It was like from something from Dante's in Ferno, like the pits of hell. It's what it's what Jane is describing what she saw on the screen. But he saw it right, literally right there. Debris everywhere, dust everywhere. He said the thing that bothered him the most was the stench.

26:07It was the stench of death, of dead bodies. And he said the horror was that you had these first responders, these police officers, construction workers. In fact, what's what people aren't even, these are stories that are now coming out. But during that very day and the days or several days afterwards, people were expecting, for example, there was a local hospital. The doctors and nurses were expecting just a flood of bodies. They thought there were going to be a lot of mean wounded people. I mean, they were like bracing for hundreds and hundreds of bodies being brought in. And instead almost nothing. And that's because almost everybody had been killed because it was that devastating. It was that hot. It was that intense. And so what doctors and nurses did, professional doctors and professional nurses is they took

27:15off their white gowns or their blue nursing uniforms. And they put on work boots and jeans and like sweatshirts or hoodies or whatever. And they ran to ground zero to help sift through the rubble. They became part of what was called the bucket brigade where they're just, you know, dealing with debris and throwing it off. And what they found were body parts. I'm sorry. I don't mean to be graphic, but people need to remember this. And this is what the reporter was describing. He goes, you don't understand. I'm not seeing bodies. I'm seeing an arm. I'm seeing a leg. I'm seeing a head. I'm seeing the part of a body. And you got families who are saying, please, please, we know my son, my daughter, my husband, my wife, my father, my mother, whatever, my uncle, my aunt, I know they work at the

28:20powers. They're not answering their phones. I think they're dead. Now we just want some kind of closure. Get us a body part so we can somehow, you know, a ring on a finger, whatever, something. So that we can identify this person and say, yes, now we know for sure that person died. And he was describing to me and he kept puking. He was throwing up. He was nauseous. He goes, Jeff, what you see, you can't unsee. He goes, this is f'ing hell. This is f'ing hell. And he said, but what amazes me. And I mean that he could barely breathe. And that's why, by the way, many of those who went, those doctors and nurses that went, those construction workers that went, those firefighters and police officers that were there, most of them died, in fact within several

29:26years, not 15, 20 years. I'm talking three, four years later because of the deadly toxins and debris that they were breathing in. And many of them knew that they were doing tremendous damage to their own health by being there. They're not stupid people, but they didn't care. And that's why, and I got to stay calm because I'm telling you, my blood is going to boil right now. When black lives matter happened and you had people like Elizabeth Warren and you had people like Joe Biden and you had people like that idiot Bill in Sudbury and they called him, or they go on the air and they say cops are racist and police are racist and first responders are racist. Tell me, when they ran into the burning buildings, when fellow Americans, black, white, brown, young,

30:31old, gay, straight, male, female, everybody that day, everybody, blood, red, white and blue, tell me when they ran into the buildings, into the rubble and everybody else was running out. Tell me, were they a bunch of racists then? You piece of, you know what? You POS. So tell me, are they racist then? Because I'll tell you this, those cops were dead within a few years, those firefighters were dead, those construction workers were dead, those doctors and nurses were dead, cancers, lung ailments, you name it, many of them suffered horribly, horribly, as I told you, one thousand died after the fact.

31:38And this clown of a mayor, this jihadist, Islamist sympathizer, Mr. Globalize the intifada, Mr. Hassan Piker speaks for the Democratic Party, this Muslim communist buffoon is going to go and speak at this sacred hollow ground and smile with a stupid smile and pontas and go on and lecture us about Islamophobia or as he said before, we have to look at the causes of what led them to attack us on 9-11, as if we deserved it. To the liberal New Yorkers who voted for this man, you should be ashamed of yourselves.

32:43Do you understand that? Shame on you. I saw heroism on that day. We as a nation saw heroism on that day that made me proud to be an American. Those heroes, those first responders, those police officers, those construction workers, those ordinary, those nurses and doctors, they're incredible human beings. You don't find them in other countries like this. I'm not saying other countries don't have them, but do you see how many of them showed up? And now we all take it for granted. Do you know that within a week, the guy who ran the New York Stock Exchange, to this day, people in New York say he moved mountains.

33:45They go, Jeff, I don't think the guy slept. It was 24, 24, 24 hours day after day after day. He said the stock exchange will rise again. We're not going to let the terrorists win. And he made sure the rewiring was done within a week. They opened the New York Stock Exchange. And by the way, full credit at the time Mayor Rudy Giuliani, the greatest mayor New York ever had. From the rubble, we rebuilt New York City. It was a rebirth. It was incredible. And all of this is now being forgotten. All of this by the left and by the Democrats is being deliberately erased. Hijacked.

34:48For the sake of the victims, for the sake of the heroes, don't let them hijack and erase 9-11. Because they're resilience. They're suffering. They're sacrifice. Their patriotism exemplified the very best of what America is. And that my friends, we must never forget. Never. CJ in Boston. Thanks for holding CJ and welcome. Today, let us remember only those 3,000 people that were slaughtered on that worry day. The let us remember the tens of thousands of family members and friends, co-workers and others who have suffered through the deaths of these heroes.

35:51We said we would never forget, but we forgot. We forgot because 19 terrorists, all Muslims, crying out that Islam is a religion of peace, slaughtered those 3,000 people on that very day. That is what we have to remember, Jeff. We have to remember. And in doing so today, perhaps the president would think of bringing something to Congress to make today a national holiday to remember those people indefinitely. Because we must never forget Americans don't remember too far back. They don't remember what happened last week. We've gone through a generation of the mainstream media spewing lies about what happened. Conspiracy theories. We all know what happened. Jeff, I had the opportunity for the occasion to stay right on Exchange Street.

36:54His blocks from that hole in the ground and I walked by the frequently, well, it was under construction. All glory was flying. Put up by those construction workers. And just as James said, insulting the very people who died on that day, the Muslims wanted to build a mosque in an old clothing building adjacent to that hole on the ground. And one day it was a protest there and I walked down there and it was an old man sitting in a bead of Toyota with his leg on the sidewalk in a petition in his hand directly in front of this proposed mosque. And I said, you're protesting. He said, yes, I drove up from Florida. He had a large star of David around his neck. And I said, I see a Jewish. And I never forget what he said.

37:56He said, these Muslims not only hate Jews in America. They hate everyone who is not a Muslim. And I never forget what he said. The people in New York protested. And what they should do today, not by 1000s but by the millions, is diverge on New York City in peacefully. I say peacefully protest this Muslim Islamic sympathizer for being the mayor of New York City. This cannot allow this to stand. We must protest. We must, Jeff, I had one at a lunch last year. Who is history? And my response is what you were saying today.

38:57It is the schools, the colleges, the elementary schools, the mainstream media are the ones that are right or rewrite history. And that is what they're doing right now. They are rewriting history. We cannot allow that to happen, Jeff. CJ, no truer words have ever been spoken on talk radio than what you just said right now. CJ, I know you fought in Vietnam. I want to thank you again for your service, your patriotism. And for this incredible call. CJ, thank you. He's not 100. He's not even 1000. He's a million percent correct. Don't let them rewrite our history. They are rewriting the history of September 11. And we must not allow them to do that. 617-266-6868. Josh in New Hampshire.

39:59Thanks for holding Josh and welcome. Jeff, you are awesome. Now, just let me check this up because I was down at 9.11. I was down there that night. The night before we were at Yankee Stadium. Yankees were playing Boston. Clemens was going for his 20th win. There was a lot of rain, big rain delay. The game never gets started. The game gets rained out. So then we hung out that night. And we got home the next morning. I wake up and I didn't even know what everything already happened. The tower has been hit. The tower was down. But I didn't know. I just woke up and I put the TV on just to see what the temperature was when we used to do that back then, but you remember. And as I put the TV on, I see a plane, a commercial airline is smashing into the North Tower. And my first instincts and words were, I can't say everything over the air, but I said, bleep bleep, bleep, they did it again. And I could tell you I went down there that night. You can only go as far as canal screen when you car.

41:00And then you had to get out and walk. And as I'm out of the car, I saw all the cars pulling up. They were off duty cops and firemen. You could see the look on their face. I'm watching them tow out demolished fire trucks and everything. They do a tremendous heroes that day. And I just want to emphasize this now, because I knew a lot of people in the city. I knew police officers and firemen. And everything. And a couple of weeks after 9-11, right? I was alerted to something that was going on in Kennedy Airport. So I went out there. Now, people remember nobody was flying except the international terminal. I got to the international terminal in Kennedy Airport. They were flying them in by the hundreds from Afghanistan. This is two weeks after the attack. And a couple of people working there, I said to them, do we know who these people are? They go, we don't know. They just keep flying them in all day, all night long. But now we know who one of them is. One of them is laughing while he is the one who murdered

42:03that beautiful national guardsman, that beautiful girl from West Virginia. She's only 20 years old, last year, before Thanksgiving. She was a great woman. She volunteered to work Thanksgiving weekend. And what she got was murdered by that freak, that Afghan freak. Now, here it is. I'm going to lay it on the line. If you do not stop legal immigration, illegal immigration, and all these visas that are given out, Saudi Arabia is putting in billions of dollars into America. They're also Chinese. China is bringing in billions of dollars into America. They're buying off everything, they're buying everything. And they have big influence inside America. What the Saudis are doing is they are buying up a lot of real estate in New York City. You have apartments in New York City that they own. Nobody even lives in the apartment. They just buy them, and that's where they put some of their money. So I'm just emphasizing, if we don't get this country

43:04with legal immigration stock, with DUN, I can tell you, it's a teenager. I wasn't even eligible to vote yet. I supported Papu Canada for president, and I've set the years. If he was president, 9-11, what would that happen? Because a lot of intelligence agencies from open. No, look, we have to secure our borders.