Should we just become a ‘Capitulation Nation’?

0:00Forning the grip of oppression, I fought for my liberty. I've paid with the blood of my people Freedom has never been free. Now my doors always open to dreamers and friends When I'm a time I protect and Defend because my name is a Very car Hello everyone and welcome. This is Karen Shown. You are listening to the prison of America's education brought to you on the America out loud. News network We are wonderful sponsor the wellness company folks your health is most important You can't do anything if you don't have good health and I would refer you to check out the wellness company

1:02Make sure that you are getting medication that is actually going to work We have a very interesting topic today. I met a gentleman's name is Gary Meredith and he wrote a book about a topic that We're taught not to speak about I remember growing up. I was told constantly do not talk about politics and religion and I wondered why when Politics and religion were the most important things that drove America That was what America was all about so if we can't talk about it What can we talk about then of course? I realized what they were trying to do is divert our attention like the Roman days of it so instead of a college Let's see if they've replaced it with a football stadium or a soccer field anything to get the people not to talk about the two most important things that drive America Also you can remember there's a separation of church and state is there really no there isn't what that means is that the state that's the government

2:09Can I dictate to you we will be a one religion country and all you can do is practice one religion you're free to practice any religion that you want as long as it doesn't interfere with my religion Because I'm free to practice my religion and so I have asked Gary Meredith and he is going to come and explain a lot of the things I just discussed right Gary You are the expert on politics to book care absolutely so let's tell everybody about your book The book is called Bibles and Ballots Subtitled 10 Biblical reasons Christians must engage in politics And the the genesis of the book I'm a volunteer writer for got questions. It's a great site It answers hundreds of thousands of questions from Christians and skeptics all over the world and I've answered a little over 600 questions

3:11And a question came in from an Irishman named Sean who said the following Christians should not involve themselves in worldly politics Where does got questions stand on the matter? So I'm not an official spokesman but I did give an answer that I got questions agreed with it said no Christians are more than allowed to engage in politics And in fact you can even look at the entire Bible as a political handbook for action for political action From Genesis through Revelation God's people are involved in worldly politics because God was the inventor of worldly government and worldly politics just because we abused those institutions Doesn't mean that we have no business in them And so the the response the questioner Sean from Ireland wrote back and said your Bible verses don't really support your position and mind do and he gave a bunch more so I refuted all his positions but it forced me to go a whole lot deeper and said you know something this idea that we Christian shouldn't be involved in politics has really taken hold and it has hurt this country

4:32I did some some work with the Herzog foundation and discovered that of the 13,500 public school districts in America about 99.9% of them followed an abhorrent anti-Christian and lunatic set of policies that they're inflicting on a whole generation And I traced it to the fact that Christians are just not involved in local politics according to some surveys 30 million plus don't engage in presidential politics and are in presidential elections and about 60 million church-going Christians don't vote in local and statewide elections So I realized I began connecting the two problems together lack of Christian involvement in politics and elections and the decline of our culture watching sort of a lunatic policy take over. So that's that's the initial answer to your question.

5:38One of the things that always bothered me was of course when they took the prayer out of school I was a teacher and when I was teaching we did the prayer we did the pledge and there was a pride in our country and of course that has slipped away but currently what I'm seeing is the Christians and the Jews are just not engaged So when a Muslim group comes into a school district and they say we want a prayer room we want sinks to wash our feet we want our children to be leaving at a certain time to be able to go out and pray and blah blah blah I'm concerned because I don't hear the Christians saying oh okay then we want a prayer room and we want our students to be leaving at a certain time so they can go out and worship we want the same thing they're not doing that and that's probably the simplest way to get over what's going on which is I believe a takeover of the Muslim ideology in education.

6:51What do you think about that Gary? Karen you kind of jump to a conclusion which is very accurate why was there a separation of church and state when Christians were concerned but not when Muslims or for that matter when atheists were concerned why were there religious or their faith or their their set of beliefs honored and the Christians dishonored and I think that tells you almost everything you need to know about the current battle to control the morality of the country and the sense of what we are as a nation one nation under God and I'll add this the difference between the American revolution and the French revolution comes down to two words that were added to that plegel allegiance you and I grew up saying in schools and that's the words under God I know they were added in the fifties but they were implied at the founding of the country and certainly stated in both decelerated in the country and we want to go and put together in that country and certainly stated in both declaration and even the Constitution was signed in the year of our Lord.

7:54So to remove God from schools and therefore from whole generation, removes the foundations the country was was established in and yet look at them when a different religious set of beliefs comes in all of a sudden where's the separation of church and state doesn't exist. But the Christians and the Jews don't say anything. They hide and that that's the part that really bothers me the most. There's a Jewish individual when I see and I hear that oh my god, 2000 Jews want to run away from Canada from Canada of all places and reset all in America because they're being politicized and weaponized and treated like third-class citizens were back to that again and the same thing after the Jews after they're done with the Jews they'll be on the Christians because to me they're kind of very similar. 2000 years of world history you're touching on and of course

8:591500 years before that as well Karen. God judges nations by how they treat the Jews. There's some Christian scholars who have pointed that out if you want to know how a nation treats Jews you'll see you'll see how they are either sustained and prosperous or falling apart and we saw what happened in the last century what happened to Europe when it badly mistreated the Jews and we saw what happened in the crusades when they eventually started mistreating the Jews for some unknown bizarre reason and in this country we will not be God's judgment follows the Jews around the world wherever he scattered them and wherever he brings them back the only ethnic identity to survive more than six generations without a homeland is the Jewish ethnicity or

10:00the Jewish people and we will be judged in this country by how we treat them and based on some of the college campus riots and the wearing of Palestinian and Hamas and Jihadi clothing in these protests we are not heading in a good direction and some of the political candidates as well and bring it back to why I wrote Bibles and ballots there's a whole lot of Old Testament in this book. Yes the subtitle is 10 biblical reasons Christians must engage in politics but all people of biblical faith need to get on board and start voting for sanity and decency again in this country. Oh I couldn't agree with you more and the problem I believe is what the media is telling them because it's to me it's very interesting as a teacher and a teacher of history and listening to what the media is saying there is such hatred for religious people for whether they're Christians

11:08whether they're Jews there is such hatred for religious people except for Muslims and I find it very troubling except I'm you realize what is it the enemy of my enemy is my friend so these two groups the Communists and the Muslims have joined together in their idea of eliminating Christians and Jews and I don't think the Christians realize that and nothing I mean is more absurd than to see feminists wearing burkas that is insane. You probably admired David Horowitz as much as I did yes and I got a chance to talk with him one on one I'm sure he's told the story to other people but when he was still a radical communist and he had had discussions with his higher-ups and the

12:10weather underground allies etc and he was asking about the various issues that they were to push and he was told and I may very well be something you've heard before too the issue was never the issue the issue was the revolution and that is why it is so we see these bizarre alliances between very disparate groups you you mentioned one right there the feminists and the wearing hijabs and gays and and you can you pay the sexual transition and they are not going to be welcomed they'll be the first to go if there is an Islamic take over this country. I agree with you and they I think that the media are the ones that are I would say to blame but it's education as well but I really think the

13:12media is so awful and doing such a disservice to the people that the people are so misguided I mean the gays carrying a flag-free Palestine they have no clue no clue as to what that actually means and then I wish that we had enough money we could send them to Palestine it would be great education they would be able to see what it was really like they have no clue and they have no clue that what these people are in the hatred I mean there is such inbred hatred and I believe that that is because their gods so to speak Allah and their disciple Muhammad are gods of hate they're not gods of love they're not forgiving they're not saying I will take your sins or if you atone just be aware of what you are doing and be kind to

14:19your neighbor and you know the golden rule do unto your neighbor as your neighbor should do unto you and you want to instill that in people they don't do that this is hate your neighbor and if you don't hate your neighbor we'll chop off your head and the people don't realize this is for real they're not playing you were a history teacher I don't know what your subject was but you were exposed to enough of human nature and what's happened over thousands of years human nature does not change despite what progressives are trying to do in creating new and more evolved human beings and make them all progressives but in the case of Islam before the communist came in the last century Islam had the record for mass murder a tamer lane a teamer the lane in central Asia was responsible for killing one fifth of the world's entire population 17 million people to convert

15:20them to Islam or die and I think he just preferred to kill him all but the the ways he killed them were beyond description I regret seeing some of the October 7th footage it was sent to me without a warning and the horror of what I witnessed in those videos is something I just saw at third hand but they proudly posted the torture that they did to women and pregnant women and children and how do you become that depraved that you would brag about it publicly it's not a secret are people in this country supported being palestine and the Palestinian cause which is strictly the annihilation of Israel seemed to be disconnected from all the facts that if you and I and this you know progressive looked at the same footage how could we not realize who the enemy is yeah that's a very interesting

16:29observation because it is the Levant which is a map that eliminates Israel that Obama talked about all the time he wanted to go back to the Levant and after doing some digging I discovered something very interesting or I thought and I'm trying to make the connection whereas England in the 40s in order for the Arabs to join them in the war they had a letter called the Sykes Pico letter where they promised a set of land to the Arabs which they were going to call Palestine that didn't work out the way they expected from the English so they turned around and created the Balfour Declaration which almost gave the same land to the Jews so they set up this war between

17:35the Arabs and Jews which didn't need really setting up because there was always that hatred from the Arabs but I found it interesting that the catalysts may have actually have been England who gave the same piece of property to two groups and said here this is yours well how do you think that's going to work out well yeah Balfour was a good man a strong Christian and again I am not a specialist in history as you yourself are but yeah the seeds of that of that conflict seem irreconcilable I do know this when a Muslim claims land for Allah they cannot relinquish it to an unbeliever and so this conflict will continue because they do not accept Israel's right to exist and to take it a step further most of them

18:39don't accept the right of a Jew to exist yes and they also don't accept the right of a Christian to exist there whole ideology is based on your Muslim war will kill you period that's it there isn't really anything else right caliphate yes exactly me to set up with the hidden Imam the world white caliphate and they're not gonna stop till they get it no and joining with the communists made easy for them and I always said it will be very interesting if let's pretend that the Jews and the Christians no longer exist then all we have are the communists and the Muslims do you think the Muslims will let the communists exist I don't think so and I my money would be on the on the Muslims because they can't wait to die for their cause right communists had some rationality about life they did not love death more than life is Islam is happy to admit that they love death more than we

19:45love life and that is a very scary thing because you're dealing with people that actually want to die and this is a way for them to reach their plan and we we buy into it which is never a good thing the understanding in your book so what are what do you feel are the 10 most important reasons for Christians engaging in politics give us a couple I sure I'll give a couple of them I will say this all chapter nine is a good one all so-called secular political issues are actually God's issues not separate church and state categories and there's a wonderful quote I start that chapter off with there is not a square inch in the whole domain of all our human existence over which Christ to

20:48a sovereign overall does not cry mine now that's not going to resonate with with a Jew necessarily but there are certainly many old testament passages saying the same thing the earth is the lords and everything in it the world and all who live in it that's Psalm 241 and Isaiah said quoting God it is I who made the earth and created mankind upon it so God repeatedly it's his yes Satan sometimes controls it man sometimes uh been given domain over aspects of it we were at the beginning we kind of made mistakes early on but uh we still have responsibility we're stewards of this earth and that stewardship goes all the way to voting who runs the government the governments were designed by God uh God has described uh as the three branches of government in Isaiah 33-22 the the Lord is our judge could you repeat that a garages repeat that so I can get

21:55rid of somebody called in the following show okay you were talking about Isaiah yeah Isaiah 33-22 we have beautiful description of God the Lord is our judge the Lord is our law giver the Lord is our king those are the three branches of government so beautifully encapsulated in our own constitution in the three three articles of the constitution and they glorify him when they are done the right way I say one of the uh favorite insights that I got writing the book and that other people have pointed out readers of the book appointed out they love is that a lot of people feel governments are necessary evil and that's because uh evil people have inhabited it and corrupted it and all that but government was God's good design and those three branches of government that God's characteristics define and encompass were designed to bless all mankind in the same way that corrupt government

23:03officials don't denigrate God's good design for government it's it's the same as if a a a a poor spouse that does not denigrate God's good design for marriage so a lot a lot of a lot of people enjoyed that insight and said yeah that's that's a fact just because I got a bad husband doesn't mean that the plan for marriage was bad just because we bet corrupt government officials doesn't mean God's good plan for government was bad that's very interesting and very true we cannot damn a whole community because there are a couple of bad actors and unfortunately in America that's what we do very well uh Gary where can people find your book and where can they find you uh bible zinc balance is on amazon.com available and uh recently been made available also through ingrams park for uh libraries for bookstores for church bookstores to bowl quarter at discount

24:10it's only 1495 I priced the paper back low so that it would be more readily available and uh some people have suggested when I was writing it that they also that I also include a study guide with it and I said there's no need uh this this is a study guide of the hundred and um 162 pages uh about 65 of them uh tackle the 10 issues the 10 biblical reasons that Christians must engage in politics um and then the rest is reference material uh and uh for instance uh got uh about 30 pages of quotes from famous Christians from Augustine on through the current day of people uh leaders well respected well-known leaders in the Christian world the last 20 centuries saying a christian's place is in politics it's one of the largest fields of human endeavor

25:12and we can't uh back away from that responsibility from that authority so folks my recommendation is get the book and read it and then make sure that this is one of your christmas presents because if we do not vote in this election and we allow the communists to take over America I will promise you will never be the same and we cannot allow that to happen we are a christian country we believe in Judeo christian laws of God and remember God gives you your rights not for government thank you gary for joining me today it was very enlightening and um hopefully people will buy the book read it and then give it away as a christmas present and vote and vote because if you're getting your news from the lame stream media you're not getting

26:13news at all you're getting propaganda put out by a bunch of communists especially with China thank you gary this is Karen Sean and you have been listening to the prism of America's education brought to you on the america out loud dot news network see you again in a few minutes folks don't go away it's break time and we will be right back successful weight loss is about changing the gut brain relationship with food i'm dr kelly victory with the wellness company if you don't like needles you'll love oral dissolving tersepatide rx works by targeting the gop1 and gip receptors that influence appetite and metabolism and unlike injections these are fast absorbing sublingual tablets placed under the tongue paired with an energy boost of b6 and b12 visit twc dot health slash out loud and use code out loud for an exclusive discount have you been looking for a healthy snack from the go well not all energy bars are soft and sugary bear bars or a crunchy

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29:26hello everyone welcome back this is Karen show you're listening to the prism of america's education brought to you on the america out loud dot news network to continue our discussion the first part of the show was devoted to the fact that we as jews and christians had better start paying attention to politics because we're not and if that happens we will lose our country and that is nothing is more clear than what obama and biden did by allowing an invasion of america and it is being carried on by governors are they that stupid yes i guess so so new york where i used to call my home get out and vote you cannot have kathy holkul as your governor she will destroy new york and nobody knows that better than my good friend michael cutler who lives now still in

30:29new york i don't know how you do it mike but what was that law that she just signed oh my gosh well you know thank you by the way Karen for having me and you know i worked for the old i and s for 30 years all of that time in new york city i was an inspector i was a special agent in fact i was a special agent for 26 years i rotated through all the squads within the investigations branch i've arrested terrorists i've arrested murderers and criminals and we did sell back then with a hundred and one percent cooperation with local and state police it makes sense you know i took an oath of office as do the politicians as do members of the armed forces as well as civil servants and as a federal agent that oath says you will support and defend the constitution you will uphold the law it's not a smog this board it's not a chinese menu well i like this law not so much that law no you sign up for the whole deal either you can in good conscience

31:30enforce all the laws dispassionately and effectively or get a different job i didn't have the authority to say well i don't like those laws so i'm going to ignore them and for all the talk that we've heard about january six in the insurrection and let me make it very clear what happened then was a disaster it never should have happened i have all kinds of problems with it but i didn't see it as an insurrection nearly as much as what we have been witnessing for decades with so-called sanctuary policies and you know i've testified before so many congressional hearings in the house and said it called by democrats as well as republicans i work closely with Jackson Lee she'll the Jackson Lee but i did a hearing back in 2003 about new york sanctuary policies and how it impacts public safety here in new york city and how it impacts immigration law enforcement you know i worked with senator damato unofficially not as an agent but as a tax paying civilian constituent if you will by the way i got to just make this quick point you call for member of congress if you're not living in his district the usual member not all but most will say oh you don't live in my

32:33district you're not a constituent the hell i'm not these members of congress in washington make laws that impact every american from one end of this country to the other so how in the world you can dodge a phone call from an american citizen living within the united states and say your night in my district that's a lot of nonsense i'm sick of this nonsense of not being truly represented it's supposed to be government of the people the problem is the people we're talking about have big bucks or political hooks from other reasons and the consequence is that we are not being represented and our best interests are not being represented frankly by either party and and so i worked very closely with the motto to change the reentry law to make reentry by criminal aliens a 20-year felony it used to be that they did not take what we did not take an aliens criminal history into account if they were deported and came back the worst they were facing was two years in jail as a consequence prosecute is almost never never ever want to

33:37deprotect the crime of reentry because they felt the penalty was so insignificant two years in jail they'd rather go after people facing 20 years in jail so i said well then why don't we make reentry a 20-year felony for criminals my friends at work said you're crazy i said i probably am but that's a separate issue and we got the law changed and under trump reentry after deportation is one of the most frequently prosecuted crimes by the entire department of justice and it's an easy crime you can put a case together in an afternoon you get the guy's fingerprints you have an executed warrant of removal or deportation the print smatch you check the databases he has no authority to reenter those are the elements of the crime you go to a grandeur you indict him you arrest them in your prosecute him very simple but one of the other things i suggested to domado is i said you know aliens go to jail for committing all kinds of crimes murder robbery bank robbery awesome you name it they do it they go to jail when they come out we then start the process of

34:40deporting them jails used to notify us by the way because they always honored our detainers this nonsense of ignoring detainers to me is a violation of law i'd like to see congress pass a law that makes it a crime if you refuse to honor a detainer and the alien gets out and hurt somebody you should be prosecuted as an accomplice to that rape murder whatever that alien does because that aliens would not have been on the street had you done your job and honored the detainer that was filed by immigration authorities but in any event they said to domado we should have deportation hearings inside state prisons why let the guy sit in jail for 20 years and then we start to move to deport him and the guy files an appeal and we wind up releasing him and more people get hurt if you could process an alien within his or her first year of detention let's say and have a judge go to that jail hold the hearing at the jail order him deported this guy's going nowhere for the

35:43next 12 years whatever it is he could file all the appeals he wants on the day he's released you put his rear end on an airplane you wave goodbye and if he comes back the reentry law kicks in and guess what senator domado went to president Reagan told Reagan about my idea Reagan said great idea it became the institutional hearing program and it worked seamlessly we didn't have to pick up people in the street we didn't have to go into buildings we have the people in custody i did the first arrest in new york under the enhanced penalty for reentry the alien equation was a Dominican who had committed a whole bunch of crimes he had a green card lost it because of violent felon these firearms drugs assault arm robbery the guy was a walking crime zone i took him out of a jail brought him to a us courthouse had him prosecuted for reentry he was sentenced to five years in jail we deported him afterwards seamless the idea that cities and

36:44states say go to hell because we don't like the idea of you enforcing immigration laws is beyond outrageous okay now there's something that i want to read to you you know i provided testimony to the 9-11 commission one of the things the 9-11 commission did was to focus on immigration because obviously if the aliens could not have entered the united states they couldn't have attacked us so the 9-11 commission staff these were the lawyers and investigators assigned to work with the commission wrote their own companion report it's an official report published by the US government printing office it wasn't you know some separate entity it was part of the record you had the 9-11 commission report and you had the 9-11 commission staff report on terrorist travel that focused entirely on immigration and this is how the preface of that report begins it's very important to consider this it is perhaps obvious to state the terrorists cannot plan and carry out attacks in the united states if they are unable to enter the country yet prior to september 11th

37:45while there were efforts to enhance border security no agency of the us government thought a border security is a tool in the counterterrorism arsenal you have to wonder what kind of geniuses couldn't figure this one out should be a no-brainer but anyway it goes on it says indeed even after 19 hijackers demonstrated the relative ease of obtaining a US visa and gaining admission into the united states border security still is not considered a cornerstone of national security policy we believe for reasons we discuss in the following pages that it must be made one congress gave the commission the mandate to study evaluated and report on immigration non-immigrant visas and border security as these areas relate to the events of 9-11 the staff report represents 14 months of such research so the congress itself said to the commission dig into immigration because that's where we failed okay think about that so you have people to date no more borders no immigration

38:46enforcement no more ice now it goes on it makes a point about interior enforcement because sanctuary cities obstruct interior enforcement and that was the focus of my testimony every time I testified before congress about the nexus between immigration and terrorism my focus has been laser sharp on interior enforcement you can't hire enough border patrol agents to keep out the bad guys we have over a hundred thousand miles of border when you look at the coastline look at all the boats that the administration has been blowing up bringing narcotics to the united states and aliens we also have more than 110 international airports America leaks like a sieve in fact they once wrote an article called border security and the immigration calendar so the real key here is yes you need border patrol you need the inspectors of ports of entry a job I did for four years but the real focus has to be on interior enforcement and that's where sanctuaries put up a brick wall and tell immigration and the US citizens American citizens go to hell we don't care if they're raping we

39:48don't care if they're murdering we don't even care if they're putting a bomb together and they go to blow up a building go to hell that's what the politicians have been telling us by sanctuary policies so listen to this other excerpt from that staff report although there's evidence that some land and sea border entries of terrorists without inspection occurred to remember this is in 2004 these conspirators mainly subverted the legal entry system by entering get airports and in so doing they relied on a wide variety of fraudulent documents on aliases on ungovernment corruption and so now we can be talking about driver's licenses which is a whole story by itself most terror attacks involved motor vehicles New York had three terror attacks that involved motor vehicles the bombing of the trade center in 93 involved a van that was rented by an illegal alien and driven by a different illegal alien when it was loaded up with explosives any parked in the garage and set it off killing six injuring over a thousand creating a half billion dollars and damages in 1993 money what is that today two billion perhaps and so we know that nexus between

40:54motor vehicles there are car bombs and truck bombs and what they do all over the world is put a barriers to protect against park car bombs and truck bombs but states like New York give drivers licenses to illegal aliens quomo started this called the green light law right they should call the coast as clear law and then block immigration enforcement from motor vehicle records period full stop seriously so now let me continue on and what it said here is this and it's so doing they were light on a wide variety of fraudulent documents on aliases and ungovernment corruption because terrorist operations were not suicide missions in the early to mid 1990s once in the United States terrorists and their supporters tried to get legal immigration status they have to permit them to remain here think of Joe Biden giving millions of people so-called political asylum applications that wouldn't be adjudicated for years and the 9-11 commission said when you do that sort of thing these people are

41:54free to roam around the country may contact gather up supplies and carry out an attack and finally this is what it said I want you to listen I want you to think about so-called sanctuary cities this again the official report 9-11 and terrorist travel thus abuse of the immigration system and a lack of interior immigration enforcement run willingly working together to support terrorist activity think about that no I agree with everything that you said and I am still confused or I don't know what the right word is anymore these people are breaking the law they are they are the great general why are they not being talked talk to your elected representative who doesn't represent you that's the problem all right so now I'm working on an article they said this the history website it's part of the history channel published a report back on February

42:5417 2010 that focused on the 9-11 attacks and appropriately it was called September 11 attacks and it included this paragraph the hijack is Islamic terrorist from Saudi Arabia and several other Arab nations reportedly financed by the al-Qaeda terrorist organization of Saudi fugitive Osama bin Laden they were allegedly acting in retaliation for America's support of Israel its involvement in the Persian Gulf War and its continued military presence in the United States that synopsis could serve as the mission statement for all of these radical democrat politicians today they support a must which is a terrorist organization they want to see the destruction of Israel they hang out with Piker and others who are rapidly rapidly violently vehemently anti-Semitic and anti-Christian think about that so as far as I'm concerned on 9-11 airplanes were hijacked by terrorists

43:59and now the Democrat Party has been hijacked by supporters of terrorists who want the same exact goals that the 9-11 hijackers wanted i'm sorry i'm sorry anymore what's the sync could you disagree with anything i said Karin not at all and i am disgusted again at the fact that there are no consequences for breaking the law these people are breaking the law well it is where it is but but but let's let's you and i could go on forever with our outrage i want to go beyond outrage i want you to know that the reason that you see rise in socialism is economic remember clinton said it's the economy stupid it is now most people don't know it was the democrats who were the ones that wanted the immigration laws enforced and the republicans wanted wide open borders Reagan gave us amnesty he gave us the visa waiver program he removed the requirement that aliens in the united states report their address every year remember those requirements and he also laid the groundwork

45:03for the diversity visa signed into law by George Herbert Walker Bush and then when George W. Bush created DHS he violated the Homeland Security Act because immigration enforcement was cut in half between ice and cbp customs and border protection and he merged it with all sorts of other non-relating agencies which became a distraction because he is a globalist he did not want the immigration laws enforced so he created DHS which i came to refer to as the department home land surrender but in 1933 FDR Franklin Delano Roosevelt signed an executive order that created the immigration and naturalization service and why did he do it to deport hundreds of thousands of illegal aliens not because they had criminal histories we didn't know of any but because they were working so when you hear people screaming oh my god i saw rest of people at home depot yeah i used to do that why because if they're working and they're not supposed to be here they are earning money they're not entitled to earn they're taking a job that should go to an american they're

46:07suppressing wages by providing unfair competition to americans and Roosevelt when he created the i n s immigration and naturalization service the agency where i worked for 30 years he said we will not permit american workers to have to compete with foreign workers we will protect the american worker and the american workers paycheck that was the point which is what trump is doing which is why everybody in watching ten i believe had a meltdown when he was elected because both sides of the aisle are in on it it's not just cheap votes and cheap labor think of all the immigration lawyers that have employment because of this think of the NGOs like Minneapolis then are getting hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars providing supposed services to illegal aliens think of the banks that are moving the money think of the realtors that are selling houses think of the banks that get bigger mortgages because as more people try to get housing the price of housing goes through the roof and you have wage suppression because americans are competing with third world workers and

47:10that includes the high tech workers so now we come to alan green span um my favorite person and alan green span i want you to think about this alan green span uh he died a couple of months ago at age 100 proving something i've believed for a long time to the good die young uh he took a lot of damage did a lot of damage the sub prime mortgages that drove real estate into the ground and then in 2009 april the 30th he testified for chuck sheover before the senate immigration subcommittee and said that we needed to bring in lots more h1b visa workers the way bill gates wants you have to set it we're going to do a bill gates wants and he said that we have a skill shortage that's nonsense we don't yet you're disincentivizing american kids to get degrees if they can't get the jobs or the jobs don't pay what they should pay i mean this is supply and demand this is what the american dream is has been tied to so here's what he says about the two benefits by flooding h1b visa

48:14workers into the country first skilled workers and their families form new households they will have necessity movement to vacant housing units a poetic way of describing a house that was for closed right and of course house price declines were made to factor in mortgage for closures and the plunge in the value of the vast quantity of u.s mortgage backed securities that has contributed substantially to the disabling of our banking system notes what he did did did that right now the second bonus listen to this folks it's incredible i was enraged the second bonus would address the increasing concentration of income in this country he's complaining that americans are making too much yeah what he died reportedly yet 20 million but that was good for him that's for you right so he actually said that the second bonus would address the increasing concentration of income in this country greatly expanding our quotas for the highly skilled would lower the wage premiums of the skilled over the lesser skilled skills shortages in americans this because we're shielding our skilled labor force or world competition well that's what the laws do the law says when there's americans

49:16ready willing enable hired the american and not the alien that makes sense he wanted to turn that on its ear along with the democrats and the republicans and what he finally said quotas have been substituted for the wage pricing mechanism in the process we have created a privileged elite that's how he describes the middle class a privilege elite his incomes are being supported in non competitively high levels by immigration quotas on skilled professionals eliminating such restrictions would reduce at least some of our income inequality so this isn't about bringing everyone's wages up it's about destroying the middle class the man was basically calling for communism and he had been the head of the federal reserve bank so you have people that are angry people that don't know how to support themselves people who go to college get advanced degrees work for decades and industries get fired and replaced by people from india who worked for one third the wage and these people have no way to support themselves and along comes these SOBs like mom danie and the others and they say

50:18oh free buses free housing and they say i'm in and if you take away real estate from someone who doesn't own real estate they don't care because they don't have private property and they don't believe they're ever going to be because of the policies that mr green spand and his buddies like Schumer were extoling so they become susceptible to the siren call of communism right my dad used to say if you want to turn a capitalist into a communist take away his money well that's how you do it slashing wages jacking prices of real estate through the roof and then what goes along with communism as it turns out lots of anti-semitism anti-Christian anti-American nonsense they are trying to wreck the economy that's why they want open borders to let it more terrorists and also further destroy wages and jack up inflation so that every american will be holding to government entities that will control them with an iron fist that's where we are right now what do you think about

51:21I think your analysis is spot on and folks I want you to think of something I challenge any one of you to look at a communist country and find the middle class there isn't any or where they find it designed so here's the one thing to think about when you think about communism there's only two ways to motivate people or even pet dogs horses what are the two ways you motivate somebody carrot or the stick in capitalism there is a carrot in communism there's no carrots so how do they control the masses violence millions upon millions of people have been killed throughout history by communist totalitarian regimes so understand what we're really looking at this is what they're trying to accomplish and yes capitalism has its ills we're imperfect creatures we make imperfect rules but if you think that communism is the solution to the ills of capitalism then you would

52:23believe that cancer that death cures cancer how's that that's a good analogy and another caveat which just added to this mixture how are they going to convince the people how are they going to make sure that people's behavior is a change the way they want it what do you think all those cameras are about and not about one thing gun control see you can't defend yourself they want a defenseless population i my mother-in-law for my first wife who tragically died of cancer 40 years ago i asked her because she was in a concentration camp she had it it happened i said why didn't you fight back she said they had guns and we didn't what were we supposed to do yeah use their pots and pans because that's about what they had yes and this is a tragedy of our own making yeah and sadly it's because we refuse to pay attention we'd rather go to a ballgame then go to a political debate

53:25and ask our elected officials what the hell they're doing carman is another reason to Jimmy Carter who was gave us the the Iranian nightmare did a lot of damage also gave us the word undocumented immigrant when we heard this we went nuts the term alien is not an insult it's not a pejorative under the immigration and nationality act section 101 an alien is simply defined as any person that a citizen or national of the United States no insult right but by calling them undocumented immigrants any effort to enforce immigration laws is greeted with the accusation that your anti-immigrant when in point the fact lawful immigrants are the most likely to be killed or attacked by members of ethnic immigrant community gangs and it's not just Latin America it's Asia it's the Middle East it's Europe why it's Africa why human nature is universal we all bleed red human nature is human nature every race religion and group has the good the bad and the ugly but the debate was

54:27switched sideways because of that simple slate of language if you will we're not going to call aliens aliens we're going to call them undocumented immigrants that's like saying a burglar commits a a keyless entry into a dwelling is that what a burglar is no no but they would have you believe that shop lifters are making cashless purchases right so we play games with the words to alter the public perception we tend to be very sympathetic this is weaponized compassion playing out with a lot of very shrewd characters with lots of money coming from outside the United States to bring America down China Saudi Arabia all these countries are waiting in line for the fall of our country and they're doing an awful lot of pushing to make it happen and we will be the ones that will determine that and Mike I'm going to ask you to come back because we are out of time and this is a conversation that is ongoing it must be continued and we must act because not acting we will

55:34lose our country and we are on a fast road for that to happen yes we know thank you so much and I know you're going to be starting a sub-stack and as soon as you do please let us know so that we can find your articles and thank you so much for joining me and explaining this because if you don't understand your history you will repeat it over and over again so folks have a great week and study up on immigration law and find that 1984 read the book exactly you will learn a lot this is where we are going and it's a good read folks have a great week read 1984 pay attention and I will see you again next week this is Karen Chone and you have been listening to the prison of America's education board to on the America out loud.News Network thank you all for listening

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