S20 Ep5: The Good Glow - Sophie Murray

0:00Do I have a podcast for you? And I've thought about this podcast every single day since I've recorded it because there is so much in this that you can take away and apply to your life. I'm so excited to welcome Sophie Murray to the GoGlow podcast. Before we get into it, thank you to Central Multivatics Complete for supporting the GoGlow this season. If you've listened to the podcast for a while, you'll know I'm always trying to make wellness less complicated. I think there was a time when I believed I had to do all of the things all of the time. But these days I'm much more interested in habits that I can actually stick to and that work. The big thing for me is when I can understand why I'm doing something. I'm far more likely to keep doing it. So Central Multivatics Complete is part of my morning routine. Let me tell you why. As a daily food supplement, that combines 18 essential vitamins and minerals and 18 scientifically

1:02proven strains for my guss in one capsule. It even includes vitamin D for normal immune function and vitamin B12 to support energy release. One capsule once a day. That's it. I don't overcomplicate my days, but looking after myself is a big priority. So for me, it's a little things that I do consistently that make the biggest difference. You can find Central Multivatics Complete and Tesco don't stores and boots in store and online. Sophie Murray on the podcast today, this podcast is next. Level. Lots of you will know Sophie. She is one of Ireland's biggest influencers. She's got a heart of gold and her personality, her warmth, her kindness has led to her having more than a million followers across Instagram and TikTok and she is a ray of sunshine. But today Sophie and I talk about so much and more than I ever expected.

2:05Sophie speaks about her relationship with herself and how she's worked really hard to improve it. She speaks about turning to wine more than she should have last year and how she got herself out of that hole. She speaks about her beautiful dog Belle who was stolen from her mum's house last year and everything that that brought to her life. Sophie goes deep on this podcast. I mean, she's a sales sister. We always have the deep and meaningfuls when I see her. But I was surprised by how much she opened up on this podcast because she didn't have to do what she did. Sophie is marrying my gorgeous brother Sam. He's 11 years between myself and Sam. I remember the day he was born and it's been one of the biggest honors of my life to watch him grow over the last 30 years. They are so made for each other. They are so in love and their energy is infectious.

3:07I hope you enjoy this podcast and to you Sophie, thank you so much for what you bring to the world. That only is it full of joy and love and kindness like I said, but it's really important. And you speaking your truth today is going to change someone's life. I just know it will. Like I said, I cannot stop thinking about this podcast since I recorded it and I really hope you enjoy it. Sophie Murray, welcome to the Good Glow. I've waited so many years to say those words. But it's season 20. I think it's fitting. It's just giving. It's everything. So this week on Instagram, I was asking people who from my family do you think is going to be on the Good Glow this week? Obviously, everyone was hoping that it was going to be you. You know, I always say God didn't bless me with sisters, but he blessed me with the most incredible sister-in-law. I'm a little cry. You. And the amazing Julie and Jean and Kira and we're so lucky.

4:09You are sort of a big part of our family. We are embarking on the most exciting year as you get ready to marry my brother. Yeah. But I want to go way back to the very, very beginning. Because people I think are so curious about you and your life. And do you feel that from people? Well, it's funny. Even when you say people, you ask who from your family that people want to hear from, people said me, a lot of people don't realize we're connected, I think. Or maybe that's my audience. Because I don't know why, but I just sometimes I'm like, oh, yeah. George is my future sister and I'm like, what? People don't realize that your sound sister sometimes. Yeah. So it's crazy to me that people have connected that and said that. So I'm so grateful that people were able to expect to me. I think the reason maybe people, so many people don't know where connected is because we do keep the family still quite private, don't we? Totally. And I think that also says so much about us and our relationship, our work is our work. We have such a good relationship ourselves.

5:11So it was natural actually that it was now that we're doing it because we've always had this relationship. And now we can bring it to work and whatever we can do it online. But we've always had like us at home. And we keep, I think, our private things private. Yeah. 200%. And I think that's because we knew each other before it all blew up for you. You know, Sam was chatting about this beautiful girl, Sophie, who worked in Charlotte Tilbury and completely rocked his world. And then you came in and you rocked our worlds too. And we absolutely adore you. You're honestly going to make me cry because I always think I won the lotto with in-laws. I just got so blessed for you guys. You really are my family. Like I wouldn't even say second family or my family. And I just am always so grateful for that. So as much as I may have you rock sound the world, you rocked my world. Oh, let's go back to you. Baby Sophie. Sophie's childhood because there's people probably don't even realize that you lived in Australia

6:14for a time. Yeah. That's another thing. As I do kind of these chats, I'm like, yeah, there is something that I don't really talk about much online. So yeah, my mom was born in Australia. Then we all grew up here and then her siblings were still in Australia. So she thought, ah, I'm missing my siblings. I have all the kids. Let's all move. So we all moved. I was five. So I was very small. I do remember bits of it. But that's how my siblings and I, so my middle three are still in Australia because we all of the Australian passports. So when people here have an Australian passport, why are you still here? But I love Ireland. I wouldn't move that far away. But yeah, so my three siblings are there. And I miss them all the time. But I think so many people can relate to that as their siblings or friends being in Australia. But yeah, so I was in Australia for a while. That was five years old. So I don't remember much. I came back and then grew up. And I was born in Ireland. I grew up in Ireland. Went to Australia for a year. Came back and I've been here since. And why did you go and come back with that for parents work? Yeah. My mom again, so she was like, let's go. We all decided as a family to go. And then I think it was to do with work that it just not that it didn't work out.

7:18We had a fabulous time and we all loved it. Everyone we are always in kindergarten. I wore like the little Australian sun hat, which was your uniform. It was so cute. Like it was really different to here, obviously. But we did end up coming back. I think it was probably she was work at the time. And yeah, that was it. So you grew up then in colline. And I think a lot of people maybe looking from the AIDS idea and would look at how beautiful you are and you're from this AIDS side of Dublin. And you know, you are so privileged. But it wasn't completely straight forward. And you know, you have spoken about how close you are to your mom and that relationship is rock solid. Why do you think that is and where did that come from? Again, so I won the lot I was in laws and I won the lot I went with my mom. I think you're the same. Like you and Chevy me and my mom were so blessed with the relationships we got. So yeah, I grew up in a beautiful area. I grew up in a bubble.

8:18Like I really am aware of that. And I know that. And it was until my bubble kind of burst 18 families split like all that kind of stuff. Moot, trough coat my mom. And that really probably brought me my mom even closer. But since I came out the womb and was still attached to that one. Like everywhere we went, holding her hand, we have this thing where she'd squeeze twice, I'd squeeze five, she'd squeeze three. Like we just had this little thing together. And she's always been my best friend. But I think that time in Rothkuhl after leaving the family home, it was just me and her then. It really made us even closer. I think being an adult as well, you have way more empathy for your mom. She had four kids by the time she was my age because I'm the fifth. So when I think of that, it's crazy. So yeah, I'm blessed with her. She's my best friend. She's taught me the best part of me. She's everything. So my parents split up when I was two. So I have absolutely no recollection. Like life was always, you know, with Mom and Joe and then my dad had his life.

9:23It must be a completely different experience when your parents split up when you're an adult. I feel I'm luckier that it happened later. But that's just my experience because I was 18 and it wasn't a fabulous couple that I looked up to as what I want in my life. So it wasn't like this devastating. How could they split? I wouldn't say it wasn't surprising. I would happen was surprising and it did come out of nowhere almost. It kind of, everything kind of blew up. So it's very different, but I think probably easier for everyone in the sense of you're not having to tell little kids that moment, dad or splitting like we're all adults. Obviously, it's sad because it's seen my mom go through it was horrendous and everything had brought us. So yes, different, but I in my opinion think better because before all that, I did have a fabulous child touch like I had a beautiful upbringing.

10:24Like I said, I was an abubble and I'm very aware that, you know, I'll always get comments of, oh, D4, oh, daddy's money, things like that. But take daddy's money as a compliment. I'm like, okay, you're calling me a rich man. Thank you. Thank you so much because I've done this on my own truly and I'm so glad it happened. I know that's strange. You know, when you hit rock bottom and you're thinking, why is this happening? Why is this happening in hindsight? Made me who I am. I think. Yeah. And you can see that in everything that you have built, Tony Robbins, one of my favorite documentaries, not another girl. I watched this years and years ago and I've watched it many times since. And I remember there was this girl and she was in the arena and people stand up and they tell their stories and she was telling, you know, this really sad story. And Tony was like, you're lucky that happened to you. That has made you who you are today. That has made you not stand for certain things. That has made you the woman who is standing before me and is going to build all these incredible

11:27things. And I think, you know, these earthquake, you know, moments come along in our life. And like what Gabby Bernstein says, the wound is the place where the light enters you. Yeah. Oh, I love that. So let's talk. So you're 18. Oh, sorry, am I jiggling? Oh, wait, is it my bank? I'm just running there. Sam, will you just text Mom and say, did she ring me by accident? Yeah. So you're 18 and it's a new beginning. And did that kind of change in your life, put a fire in your belly? Oh, that's such a question. Because in hindsight, yes, like in hindsight, it changed everything at the time. I also was, so yeah, I was going to my first break up and six months later, my family, that whole thing happens. So I was in the gutter. Like I described that as my first rock bottom bubble burst, which in need of to be burst, I needed to like, I was just stuck in this privileged little almost things were handed

12:31to me. Like I just, I absolutely grew up very blessed and very lucky and the bubble had to pop. So I was going through the low to low. And it was from that that I was like, I can either stay like this and hate myself because I was already this whole thing made me realize how I spoke to myself and the self-loathing that I was doing and like how I dealt with rejection because that was a double whammy rejection, you know, first, first boyfriend and man and you're like, you know, double whammy. So I was dealing with this total chaos and everything that it, it made me realize, okay, something's got to give like something's got to change. Yeah. I did in hindsight, set a fire. I don't think at that time was I like, but I remember my mom, my sister, Lucy coming into me. I was in the bed, ball and crying. It wasn't that it was my first year of college and I wouldn't go no, no, not going just in self-pity, low thing, which I think sometimes you have to do. You have to just sit and let it all fall down.

13:32Let it all fall down and they were like, no, up yet. And that is very much my mom like she is so resilient and she's been through so many things that so many things that knock her or should have her in the gutter, but she never lets it put her there or keep her there. And so yeah, I just, they tore me out of the bed ripped open the curtains at the daylight. I like to in the day. And that was kind of it. It was get up and get back at us. That's my mom. She's, we don't wallow. We don't wallow like get up girl. So you, I've been looking off to meet Madre. You're amazing, mom. And she is quite strong and I think her nature is like yours is quite happy go looking. You know, Kathy's always in grade four, always up for a great chance. So by the sayings of it, she was almost stronger in that time than you were. She held and what was going on, she held it all down like she was so and what she must have

14:38been going through, we didn't see it. Like she for us kept it together was making sure we were okay and we were looked after and again, like back at 18, you kind of don't you're thinking about yourself. You're not thinking like, oh God, like this is happening to my mom. You just think, oh, it's happening to me. It's happening to me. But she, yeah, she, I, me and her the same person. We, I get that kind of happy go lookie from her. She doesn't stress, she doesn't fret like you could, I could say to her, but what if this happens, she said that won't happen. What if this thing's happened? That's not going to happen. She is queen positivity. She just doesn't let you think that the bad things will happen. So I definitely got that from her. Oh, I love that. Yeah. She reminded me of something that I haven't thought about in ages and all the way back in season one, when I recorded an episode with my own mom. I remember saying to her, like, through my illness, what really helped me was you saying to me all the time, everything's going to be okay. And even though I knew my mom didn't know if everything was going to be okay, it's still

15:41the most comforting thing to hear from your mom. It's so, it's everything you need. Because, and you know, sometimes you just cry and you're like, I just need my mom. Because they're going to be there to just tell you it's going to be okay. And I think it's the one person they say and you do trust us. Yeah. And I want you this far, you know, so it's like, okay, if she says it's going to be okay, it's going to be okay. Yeah. It's like a feeling more so than a promise. Yeah. Yeah. So let's talk about then starting off in your career. And did you always have a feeling that you wanted to work for yourself or what did you imagine for yourself at that time? Yeah. That's a good question. Because me and Simon spoke about this for me, kind of share this in common. And I was little, I remember me and my mom will pass a shop and it had shut down. And she was telling me a story and I just remember being like, I want to do it on my own. I don't want to work for someone. And I was young. So I didn't really know what it meant. But I just remember being like, I want to do it on my own.

16:42And then went through school, went into college, didn't know what I wanted to be doing, studied art history and sociology, did arts because I didn't get into psychology again thought, oh my god, I didn't get what I wanted it for again. I just meant to happen that way, rejection is redirection because did art history sociology was great, met lovely people. But in that I realized, okay, I'm going to go and do makeup, went and studied makeup, which then led me to Charlotte, Hilary. And that's where we first officially met. And I met you on the counter before you, I was with Sam. And I was like, George, you have my god, like such a fan. Which is so funny now. Crazy. I was so excited and yeah, so I just knew the corporate world wasn't for me. And then actually left Charlotte, Hilary and then went into KPMG as a little receptionist. Good morning, I will help you. I actually loved it. That was me to it. Every morning like, good morning, I will help you. Room booking? No problem. I loved it. I did all the KPMG heads.

17:43I knew. Just a reddish sunshine to them. I knew a lot of them as well because a lot of them were, you had just finished college and got in, got into their craft program. So it's part of me felt a little silly, you know, they're all training to be a countenance and I'm here behind the desk. But I also was like, no, like I always kind of believed in following your own path. And I was never too bad for comparing myself with like, oh god, they're becoming a doctor and this is what I'm, it's like, no, everyone has their own path. Yeah, I'm behind the reception and there may be making a load of money for coming partners of the firm. But I am really enjoying it here and I like my time here and I know that I will continue and flourish. But right now I don't have to be where they're asked. Like it's not a race. So it was, it was very funny. I see people that I knew and yeah, I had a great time there, but I just knew corporate life wasn't for me. I was just being for someone wasn't for me, which I know is probably quite, maybe a bit

18:44of a bratty attitude of me. I'm like, I hate being told what to do. But I just realized I just, I don't know, I just want to do it on my own. I just, I knew I could do it. I knew I had it in me. I never knew what it was going to be and I thought it was going to be being a freelance makeup artist, which I was using my Instagram to post about and then COVID hits and I started talking to my phone, getting the goss from the girls and it was called Agniant and that's when my online started. So it was 2020. Wow. Yeah. First of all, I had such a thought of Suzanne Jackson who started on the reception in spin in 98s and went on. Yeah. And we were, you know, still in the office, just in awe of everything she had created. And I love that point of like we're all on our own path and, you know, show up as yourself and all will be revealed. Yeah. And I think as well with Agniant and you were, it was loads of people who were remembered

19:47so you'd go on Instagram and people would write in the dilemmas and you would give your take on it. And a lot of it was really funny. But there was a lot of wisdom in Agniant. And I think that came across to people and I think it still really comes across in everything you do online. It's not just fashion, it's not just beauty, it's lifting people up and encouraging people to believe in themselves. And when we look back then at everything you'd been through when you were 18 and on your own journey, like that wisdom was obviously coming through. Oh, that's so nice here because that's a big thing for me is I love the fashion. I love the beauty. I love nice things. But that's not actually what's important in life. And I used to, I would have definitely been very materialistic when I was younger and I have to have this and I have to have that. And I've just gotten older and realized, yes, I still love the nice things, but they're not, they're not what's important.

20:49And I want to, my audience to, yes, I want to inspire you. I'd forgive you makeup tips, but I also want you to know that I have been exactly and maybe still have the same self-tight that you have, the negative self-talk. And I want the audience to know like, I get that and I have that too and you don't have to be like that. It can change. You can change your thinking. You can change everything about your life if you really put your mind to it and if that's what you want to do and not be afraid of what everyone is viewing. This country, it's small town syndrome. I actually think that's how I began on line was because I was in Rath Cool. We're just still joblin' obviously, but I wasn't bumping into anyone I knew in the shop. I wasn't driving past anyone I knew. So I think a part of me wasn't like, oh, I might bump into someone right after I post that story. That's really embarrassing. Do you know that? I actually think I felt like I was kind of distanced from it all and was just like, oh, go fresh, just post this, just talk.

21:49And I did. And I got it, because that's what got me here today. Whoa. Yeah. So I see so many people online. I talk to so many young girls. They're like, but how do you do it? Or like even someone with a business, not even fashion or beauty, not influencing, but just they have a business and they want to talk about it. But how do I talk to camera? I was pretty, pretty scared to show themselves and to be themselves online. People call it cringe. It's embarrassing. It's cringe until you make it. They got to do the cringe. There's freedom in the cringe. So be cringe. Oh, I love that. And remind me of something myself and Jerry had spoken about. I must go find the episode and I'll link it in the show notes. And it must have been all about self belief and taking the plunge and doing the scary thing. And I put that to, and I said, you know, people are afraid maybe because we live in small times and villages and he said something that was like, such an aha moment, he said, I

22:49come from a small town as a state of mind. That's a story you're telling yourself. And I think it's so interesting that you actually took yourself a physically out. And maybe that is, I think the step further, that people need to do or block everybody they know and stars, you know, being your true self online. If that's the path you want to go down, but that's so interesting that actually you physically being somewhere else. I really think that you free. Yeah. And like if someone had said, go off and disappear, go somewhere. And again, it was literally like 30 minutes away from my friends and stuff. So I wasn't barred and I'm talking like I was somewhere far far away. I was, I was still close by, but it just was, it felt like I was in my own little place. I think that I don't know. I just have such fun memories of that house, me and my mom and Rathkel. It was just, I'm locked down like it was so tragic, but it's when it all began. And I just thought, I'm giving up caring.

23:51And I still have to work on that. It's, it's so easy. Say, oh, don't care what they think. Don't care what they say. I always have to practice actually not caring, but my delusional, I'm proud of my 25 year old self just said or 24, just start caring. And I did. I thank her for it. I don't know where she got the gombs. I just went for us. So cool. There's so many places that I could take this next. Of course. I think, I think it's really interesting that sometimes we have to be, sometimes we have to go through something to see it and other people and the way you are able to give people advice and lift them up. And I think recently you said that you just paused your podcast because you didn't want to be giving people advice when you knew you still had inner work to do. Totally. And I think as well for me, sometimes I disappear as well. If I'm having like, sometimes I could have bad ears. And I'm like, I feel, yeah, I can't show up.

24:52And people look at me, they're like, oh, you're so fit. You're so healthy. And you're so, and I'm like, yeah, but I'm like, oh my God. And then you're feeling like, am I lying to everyone? And then you give yourself imposter syndrome then because, yeah, people have this idea of you and you're not trying to create this fake idea. It's just what it's, you know, you want to help people, you want to give advice. But I realized it was last, it was sort of this year, but last year I realized it was like another rock bottom. I had just gone low without even realizing it. I was drinking all the time. And I've said this on my TikTok, like it wasn't, it wasn't mad night's out. It wasn't. And she's so much drinking at home that sometimes I'd end up drinking a bottle of wine at home and go to bed drunk. Actually, I would remember even sometimes getting into the bed and then I'd wake up feeling like shit, but go to Pilates, do the things, but feeling miserable and then would have another glass of wine. Then that evening because I needed to decompress. And I actually spoke to my therapist right now.

25:52I was like, John, I'm a little bit nervous about my drinking and she was like, well, talk to me about it. She was like, tell me, okay, tell me the routine. And I said, well, in the evening, it'll be five, maybe six o'clock. And I'll decide, okay, I'm going to decompress now. I'm going to have a glass of wine. And she's like, okay, we'll tell me about the glass. Is it in, is it in your water container? Kind of, she's trying to figure out am I hiding it? Like am I pouring alcohol and bringing a bottle, you know, that's what you want? No, no, no, it's not that bad. I'm not, I'm really not going cray cray. I just at night or in the evening would feel. I need to decompress in here glass wine. And then sometimes I could turn into the bottle wine. It then turned into like a Monday to Friday and then Saturday Sunday and then Monday again. And at the end of this year, I just realized, oh my god, Sam, I drank my way through that whole year. What didn't help was bail. My mom's puppy got stolen. So then that I'd say I had a bottle wine every bloody night and I became obsessed with

26:54finding her. And I got a burner phone. I had a burner phone for people to text because my mom was getting prank calls and all the type of stuff. I had a burner phone. I was on this burner phone. Sam had to feel like so if you just put down the phone, like stop it. I was on these resale of puppies all the time. So that was this time last year, actually. So that then made it all kind of even worse and crazier. I was already in the bin. And then that just was like, hey, can I handle it? Because I already wasn't processing any emotions. And then that happens and I was like, oh, this, I just, I'm done. I'm done. And then at the end of the year, I thought, oh my god, I'm not going into 2026 like this. I cannot do it. This is not me. And that's coming back to like taking a break from the podcast and you saying sometimes you feel like, is that me? Because people are seeing this. I do. I just felt like a fraud. I was like, how can I be telling people my favorite quotes that I love and that get me through the day, but I'm living life like this. Like I'm using drink to suppress any emotions.

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28:59It's a daily food supplement that combines 18 essential vitamins and minerals and 18 scientifically proven strains for your gut in one capsule. It's developed to support everyday well-being, including vitamin D for normal immune function and vitamin B12 to support energy release. You can find it in Tesco, Don stores and booths in store and online. Again, hindsight. Now, what are we almost September? And I'm just so, so glad I changed it. Because if I didn't do it then what I've done at it all, like I just needed it to stop and I did dry January. And again, I said I don't much to talk about this star chart. And that was to track every day that I didn't drink. And I was really nervous to do it. Because then I thought if I can't do this then I have a problem. Yeah. If I can't get through this, if I can't even do the first few days without a glass of wine, I'm in trouble. It was so much easier than I expected, seeing my little stars build up on the star chart. So now I've kept that star chart until today it's still going.

30:04And all my stars are now not fully sober. I love my drinking foods with the girls with Sam. Like I love an occasion drink. Absolutely. But I just have to track that I wasn't going to let the drinking at home come back. And it hasn't. And my stars are there. And then I've added in my 10k stepstars and my platy stars and start adding your little stars for an annual. Wow. Okay. Tell me about this to you. Like what does it look like? How can we do it? I literally just got a calendar. But it's down. I'll put anything you like. So a calendar on the wall wherever, packets of stars or stickers or whatever you like. And at the end of every day, put on your stars. I'm a bit of a perfectionist. I was like, oh, I have to get that star today. I have to get that star today. If I don't get that today, I've broken the whole pattern. So I got a little bit of that. So with the them, we've been out weddings all summer. So the past two weeks, I just blocked out as in there's no stars in them. And that's okay. I was away. We were having drinks at the wedding. I wasn't doing my 10k steps every day. I wasn't at my parties. So that's okay. Two weeks are just blank of no stars. But I allowed myself that I used to go so hard on like, okay, well, if I'm locking

31:08in now, I can't do anything. I can't, I can't eat nice food again. I have to be so strict. I have to live off lettuce. And I used to do it all wrong that it would never last. It was all extreme. It was so. It was such extremes. And I finally found the balance with drink, with food, with exercise, with everything of not having to push myself such extremes that I'll just say, oh, this is exhausting. I'm not doing it anymore. Like it's just, it's become a part of my day. Get your steps. Don't reach 10k, not the end of the world. Just get your little coffee walk in, do a flat-aise class this week and don't drink at home. And yeah, it's, it's really changed everyday. And do you feel, do you still feel, say on a Monday night, like, oh, I love the last one. Totally gone away. Genuinely. And I think it's because stopping it, it was really hard at first. And there's been the odd day, I'd say something, oh, yeah. Right now, I love the last one. But last year, I would have got up to the shop and gone and got a bottle of wine. But now I'm just like, no, I'll stay with the firm in it and be like, why do I want the

32:10last wine? Like what's going on? What am I trying to do? And immediately I can then be like, that's when a new meal day, I didn't even realize. Like sometimes you could see something on your phone. I'll put the phone down and then I realize, oh, I'm feeling a little something. I'm feeling, why am I feeling that way? And I'm like, oh, my God, it's because that thing I just saw on my phone. And I didn't, if you go throughout your whole day, seeing things, absorbing things without actually clocking, like checking on yourself, how did that affect me? Like is that sitting in my tummy? Is that making me feel really anxious? Yeah. Wow, Sophie. And like, it's so crazy to hear you even say this because we're family and I didn't know that. No, I know. And that's even when I say it, I'm like, it was quite hidden. But I also think I'm such a high-ensile kind of person. Like, I didn't fully realize what I was doing. I would let the week go by and internally, I'd be like, I shouldn't be drinking this much, but I'd do it again. Oh, okay, okay, I won't have a drink tomorrow. I'd have to drink tomorrow. And it's hindsight that I look back and you don't need another one.

33:13Start learning that I don't need one. I don't need one today and save it. And it's so much more rewarding when you say that me and Sam might go to our local and have two little bevies and then go home and that's all I need now. Whereas it used to be like, okay, well, let's bring a bottle of something home, you know? I think it's really important to talk about this because there is so much to do. So many people listening to this right now that it's even listening to this can will make you feel uncomfortable because you're seeing yourself. And I think podcasts are just such a great way to speak your truth. And I also think your generation are absolutely incredible at speaking about alcohol and things like that. You know, myself and Jamie back in corporate land, we used to have wine Wednesdays. Right. So wine Wednesdays were to get us through the week to Friday. Yeah. And obviously it didn't, it didn't last thankfully.

34:17But I do think that sometimes you have to have those really uncomfortable conversations with yourself. Thank you so much for sharing that Sophie. It's so huge and so glad that you're feeling better. This week on the go-klo, Sophie's back. It was literally this week last year. My mom rings me and she just says bell's gone and I immediately was like someone broken and she's gone. How I'd almost put it is self love. You have to build self love but to gain self love you have to get rid of self-loathing. Yes, there is a second part to my conversation with Sophie which is coming your way next Sunday. So why did I decide to split it into two parts? Well, I just feel like there is so much in this episode. There is so much to come next week on Sophie's beautiful dog, Belle, on herself loathing and how she got herself through that and back to a happy place. And there was so much in what we've just listened to.

35:18So I just felt like, you know what? Let's go process everything that Sophie said in the first half and let's go back next week because next week is even better. Huge thank you to Sophie for everything she has brought to the podcast. I was really blown away by her honesty, you know, you can show up on a podcast and go through the motions or you can show up on a podcast and speak your truth and change people's lives. And I really believe that that is what Sophie has done this week on the podcast. I can't wait for you to hear the second half. So interestingly enough, we are starting this September reset tomorrow, 10 minutes a day for 10 days, a chance to begin again, a chance to rewrite your story for the last four months of the year, a clean slate, my favorite time of year, just to get on the same page with yourself, okay, where am I, what am I doing, where am I going? And the first day, it's quite relevant to this podcast actually because it's about

36:20the poison, Darro. And what is your poison, Darro? What is the torn in your side that it is finally time to remove? Is it a way you're living a story you're telling yourself? And I really think before you level up, you need to let go. And day one of the reset starting tomorrow is all about that torn in your side, that poison, Darro and hundreds of us are starting this course tomorrow. So if you want to get involved, the early bird ends tonight, but you can use the code podcast for an extra discount, a leave a link in the show notes. I cannot wait to bring you the second half of this episode. But in the meantime, before next Sunday, I will be back with Jamie for the bonus episode on Wednesday, where we sit down and we discuss everything from that week's episode, all the behind the scenes content and Sam and Jamie were in the room for this recording.

37:21So I'm really looking forward to his take on us. So that's coming your way Wednesday. Sophie is back next Sunday. And if today impressed you just way for next week, I can't wait to bring it to you. Thank you for tuning in today. Appreciate you always. And thank you, Sandra, and multiple adults complete for supporting the good glow. Hey, if you enjoyed this episode, please leave me a review. I know everyone says that, but they really do go a long way. Thank you, and I'll see you on Wednesday.