S2 E2: Jessica Zwaan on AI and Tech's Equity Evolution

In this week’s pod, Hebba sits down with Jessica Zwaan, COO of Whereby and the author of "Built for People,” to chat about AI’s potential impact on the structure of compensation and equity in the workspace and the evolving landscape of HR. Jessica unleashes a few of her hottest HR takes, predicting a shift towards employees demanding more equity stakes in something she affectionately calls "tech space communism." Then, she and Hebba speculate on the future of compensation structures before bonding over the importance of long-term incentives in companies. Plus, Jessica reveals why HR professionals need to get more obsessed with the numbers— and explains why being obsessed with the metrics is one of the best things you can do for your HR career.    And if you love HR Therapy, sign up to I Hate it Here, the newsletter for jaded, overworked, and emotionally burnt-out HR/People Operations professionals needing a little inspiration.   https://workweek.com/discover-newsletters/i-hate-it-here-newsletter/   0:00 Jessica’s Background 3:59 HR Hot Take 10:34 The Tech Startup Equity Model 18:41 The Role of HR in Equity 21:02 HR and Structuring 23:50 How HR Can Improve at Business Ops 31:00 Market Shifts 36:52 Setting Yourself Up for Future HR Success 41:16 An HR Hill to Die On   For even more exclusive insider content, don’t forget to check out my YouTube page.    Follow Jessica:  Get the Book: https://www.koganpage.com/hr-learning-development/built-for-people-9781398608023 Website: https://www.jessicamayzwaan.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jessicamayzwaan/   Follow Hebba:  LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/hebba-youssef Twitter: https://twitter.com/hebbamyoussef 15Five is the performance management platform that drives business results and gives HR teams a complete solution to deliver high employee performance, engagement, and retention while improving manager effectiveness.  Find out more about 15Five here.