S15 EP165: Hour 1 - The Resurgent Doomers

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2:04They tend to happen after about 3 pm Eastern. And before you get home, you might as well learn about them before you're on the evening news. That's my job. I'm Eric Erickson, tune in wherever your podcast are available on YouTube, Spotify, Apple, whatever. You'll get the four things to know in the afternoon. Search Eric Erickson or go to EricEarickson.com forward slash four things to know for the links. Be more informed than your family and friends. Welcome to the Eric Erickson Show podcast, hour one. Greetings conversationalists, it's Eric Erickson here. Glad to have you with me. 7-7-9-7-3-7-425 is the full number. Time is running out to get your tickets to hang out with me October 10th at 7 pm at the gas out theater. Text show to 3-3-7-7-7 and you can get tickets to the not safe radio show. It's October 10th, 7 pm. Come hang out with me. You're going to have a ton of fun.

3:05It's not get friendly or mother approved. But boy, do I have stories? All of them true to be told live on stage before a live audience and you're not going to want to miss it. This is probably the last one we do. So you either come now or you miss your complete chance to ever do a tick show to 3-3-7-7-7. I'm tired of doing live events. We got to talk about AI a little more before you change the channel before you change the channel because I know some of you're just just well, you're exhausted by the topic. You don't understand the topic. Let me just make it a little bit smarter. What are the AI companies? They're math nerds, many of them autistic. They have no social skills. And they, well, they're like sci-fi nerds. You all know the stereotype of the Star Trek conventions. You have seen these people. Have you ever seen Galaxy Quest?

4:07Galaxy Quest is considered one of the most perfect movies ever made. I'm not actually making that up. Was it Terrence Mann or the director? The famous director says it's one of the only movies where every scene is perfectly made. It's a Tim Allen Sigourney Weaver comedy. It's about a group of actors who play in a Star Trek style show and well, an alien civilization has seen their show and builds their spaceship. The show has been canceled and they're going to the nerd conventions and the nerds come up and say, hey, in episode 300, you did this thing with your hand and laser beams shot out. How exactly did the laser beams manifest from your hand? And the actor, one of them is what's his name? Alan Rickman, Snape and Harry Potter, Hans Gruber from Die Hard. It looks to them is like it was special effects. And they're like, I know, but how did you conjure the lightning from your, it just, yes.

5:10That's he didn't really happen, but it's the type of nerds, the type of nerds that you get at the Star Trek convention. When I was in 10th grade, one of my favorite teachers was Dr. Jessica Scott. She was my chemistry and physics teacher. She allowed me to skip school to go see Star Trek 6, the undiscovered country on the condition that I wrote a report. She wanted me to go opening day to give her the review. She and her husband literally would dress up in Star Trek uniforms. When I stood in line with my buddy Clayton, when the iPhone came out, yes, I stood in line when the iPhone came out, the iPhone, the original iPhone. We were at North Point Mall and Alfa Redham, my buddy Clayton and I. And my wife called me while we were standing in line, waiting to buy our iPhones. And she says, I have a question. Which of you is Princess Leigh and which of you is Chubaka? I may be a nerd, but not that much of one, but these people are.

6:11They are nerdy math nerds and they've invented a math equation that learns how to pull an information to mimic the English language to synthesize and understand things and give you answers. And yet it can't actually book you a room at a holiday in and it can't give you directions half the time without running you off a cliff. And yet these people are, I mean, that may be the way it kills us all as it gives us directions into an oncoming train. But they've really decided that, oh my gosh, it's going to, it's going to kill us all. It's, we're all going to die from the technology that they're building and notice they won't stop building it. These guys are in love with their own thinking. They are some self-absorbed narcissists. They're the nerdy kids who got swirlyed in high school and now suddenly they're billionaires on top of it. It's like Bill Gates. Bill Gates wants to like zap the sun or burn up the atmosphere or or hang out with Jeffrey

7:13Epstein to see hot girls that he's never seen before. I don't know what Bill Gates eats. He's a creepy fella. His daughter is apparently a weirdo too. I mean, if I was raised by a billionaire Bill Gates, I probably would think that I could dominate the world. What time is it, rain? It's time to tech over the world, pinky. I mean, literally, we've got, I mean, pinky in the brain running the, the anthropic and they're all a bunch of doofuses. Then they've invented a math equation and an algorithm that they think can destroy the planet except they don't really because they would stop building it if they thought it really could destroy the planet. What they're really after is the government taking them over and protecting them from competition. Why? Because it is extremely expensive to build the data centers needed to get the computational power to do the math equations. All we're talking about with the data centers and with AI is mathematical equations.

8:17That's it. So the nerds have found these math equations that can solve problems and write your kids college paper and solve math problems. And as all this is a math equation, an algorithm is an equation and it takes a lot of computing power to do these equations and the bigger the math equation, the harder it is. Now let me just basically explain infinity to you. Why is math infinite? Why are numbers infinite? OK. A one. Now you add a one next to the one you've got a 11. Now you add a one next to the one you've got 111. Now you add a one next to the one you have 1111. Now you add another one. You've got 1111 11. Now you add another one. You have 1111 1111. And on and on it goes. You just keep adding ones and ones and ones and infinite them.

9:19Well, the more ones you add over time, the longer it takes the computer to process it. And so you need bigger computers and you need bigger, more chips and you need more room and you need more power to fund the chips. And at some point their math equations become so complicated to run to become bleeding edge that they're out of money. They haven't made a profit yet. And so what they want the government to do is to force them to slow down because they can't make a profit and they want to stay ahead of their competitor. And so the only way to stay ahead of their competitor and not go completely bankrupt is to get the government to tell the competitors you're no longer allowed to do this. You don't have enough revenue. You don't have enough bandwidth. You don't have enough GPUs. This is all about getting the government to protect them from their competitors. And the way they're doing it is trying to scare everybody. But wait a second, they're joined by people in the media. This is Cara Squisher, who is a hyper progressive leftist.

10:21She gives great interviews, but she's a hyper progressive leftist that CNN allows to come on as some sort of authoritative voice in technology, which she used to be at the Wall Street Journal, but she's just an angry progressive who for some reason CNN wants to treat as a voice of authority. Just listen to this. You think that there is, can this industry regulate itself without Congress and you're you? No, no, that's ridiculous. It's like, can you imagine when we had nuclear proliferation that Oppenheimer sold his bomb to regular companies? This is on that level. And it's, you know, we somehow we manage in 80 years not to blow ourselves up because we had a global agreement around nuclear and non-proliferation. Now we have more than enough bombs to blow this entire planet up. And yet we've managed to handle it because we work together, including with China, including with all the different powers in the world that we should be doing things around robots, around AI, around things we should ban.

11:22And you know, it's absolutely responsible in this groundbreaking technology, which could do so much good for the world to be able to control it in ways that help people. And I'll make one more observation. They always say AI, there's a 10% chance that AI will kill us. Let me just tell you, AI isn't the problem. It's the people who make AI. There's a 10% chance that people who make AI will kill us. And if you've noticed, none of them have said anything about liability, including criminal liability, the way pharmaceutical companies, if they have a explosion or car companies or anybody else, they should have the same liability that other manufacturers have. And that's what they are. And so you don't hear them. It's always AI doing it. Because if electricity killed this or the phone killed this or guns, the same thing, it's the same nonsense. She's right on that last part, but on the first part of the nuclear proliferation, keep in mind that the Soviet Union refused to deal with the United States until it faced economic annihilation and it needed to slow down.

12:25It needed, Gorbachev knew they needed to slow their role because they were going to have an economic catastrophe and Reagan knew that the United States economy could run over them. The Chinese now believe their economy can run over us. They have no intention of dealing with us. They have no intention at all of negotiating with the United States on this. It's a pipe dream for care if it's wish or to stay so. And she uses the nuclear analogy and this is the thing I want to point out to you. In the 1970s, I wrote about this this morning. There's a Michael Douglas-Jane Fonda movie came out, The China Syndrome. And it was about some reporters who happened to witness a nuclear meltdown on a California nuclear facility and there's a massive cover up including the assassination of witnesses to make sure the public doesn't know that the nuclear power reactors are capable of annihilating people. It was a box office success. Twelve days later, three mile island melted down.

13:28People had gone to see the China Syndrome. Twelve days later, three mile island melted down and people didn't believe that there was no major fallout. In fact, there was a commission set up a 12 person presidential commission by Jimmy Carter set up to investigate it. They found that the dose of radiation people got from the three mile island meltdown was less than half the dose she get from a chest X ray. And yet there are people today who believe that it was a massive disaster in meltdown. I got a person in my sub stack this morning that I wrote about it and she's, she's claiming that there was a huge cover. No, there wasn't a cover up. I mean, we do not have like in the three mile island area, there is not a disproportionate rate of cancer in the area from people who live there at the time. Anything that we would show there was a cover up doesn't exist and yet people believe it. And the anti nuclear people sprung into action and the United States killed a hundred nuclear power plants that were scheduled to be built. Instead we went with coal and we went with natural gas and our economy exploded and those

14:29anti nuclear people then became the anti coal and anti natural gas people. We call them the climate change people and we know that it was the Soviet Union from when the Soviet Union fell and we go into their archives, we know it was the Soviet Union that funded the anti nuclear program in the United States that funded the environmentalists who were hated it and then funded their pivot to climate change. And now it's the Soviet Union doesn't exist and it's China funding a lot of the tumors but it's not just China. It's also anthropic. Anthropic is the biggest of the AI companies out there. It wants to have an IPO in the next two months and anthropic needs the government to tell them they're not allowed to grow further so that they can finally make a profit because they're spending all their money on GPUs and data centers to do bigger and bigger math equations. And they know the competition is coming for them and in fact, so there's a closed model where the computer programmers hide at anthropic. They watch Star Trek and they program on their computers and you're not allowed to ever see their code. And then there's the open model that Meta uses where they put their code out on the web

15:31for anybody to look at and say, here's how I can improve it. And you have to improve it for everybody, including Meta. And those open models are only a few months behind the closed models and they're gaining on them. And anthropic is really nervous that a group like Meta which turns a profit is suddenly going to eat their lunch. And so now they're like, government, you must regulate us or we're all going to die. It's like the nuclear, it's like the nuclear reactors. They were going to kill everybody. Climate change was going to kill everybody. And now this it's the same people. It's the same dooms. They've gone from anti nuclear to climate change and now they're anti AI. It's the same people funded by the same groups. And at the end of the day, they only have two things in common. The anti nuclear movement, the climate change movement of this have two things in common. It is funded by communists and it really is in addition to corporations in a way that is designed to restrain the United States, not the communists.

16:32And it is conducted by a group of people who want to be given the power by government to control your life in the same way that climate change dooms. One of the power to tell you what car you can drive, how many kids you can have, what stove you can use, what refrigerator you can use, where you can live and how often you can smoke meats outside. The same people now want to be able to control you through a math equation that the nerds have invented. Can I just tell you guys that for the last 72 hours, I heard nothing but man, Kansas City doesn't look good. The chiefs just do not look good. The chiefs, they're off their game. I got, I've had friends of mine who were Kansas City fans who are like, I don't know about this year. They beat the Broncos 31, 10 last night. Now they may not be the strongest team in the NFL this year, but there was a whole

17:36lot of dumerism about the chiefs. And I thought they did a pretty good job. Blassey was a good game. By the way, I got to play this clip for you. This is from the vice president of the United States talking about all the AI demands for regulation. I have to say just personally, I feel a little bit weird about the fact that you have so many frontier AI tech companies kind of coming to the government and begging the government to regulate them. It feels a little bit to me like a bit of a Trojan horse. So I think we just have to be careful about this. Yes. And by the way, this is a guy who is from that tech industry worked with Peter Thiel and the like. This is David Sacks who is one of the president's AI guys. So Dario Amade, you think is incorrect in predicting the worst outcomes here? Well, I think if Dario believes that we're going to have the worst outcomes, my question for him is, why are you doing this?

18:36It doesn't make sense to me that you're running a frontier AI company if you think frontier AI is going to end humanity. So again, I would push that back on him and say, how are you going to make this safe? And if you don't think you can, you should probably either shut down the company or step aside and let someone else lead it. Exactly. Call their bluff. Good for David Sacks. Good for David Sacks. Old glory bank is calling your bluff. You think you can do a good online bank and you're not using old glory bank. I got to, I got to tell you, I used an online bank. It's one of the biggest online banks out there. There's a stadium name for the online bank I used and they couldn't figure out how to deposit cash. Old glory bank figured it out. Not only that, they figured out how to let me use my debit card and tie it to the app on my phone and geolocation. So if someone steals my card and a transaction processes and my phone and my pocket says I'm not near that location, it doesn't go through.

19:39It's pretty genius what they did. They believe in banking freedoms. They believe in your freedom to bank and their good people, good conservative guys who started this bank and women as well. Old glory bank dot com slash Eric, you can get a business account with them. They are a pro business bank. They're very hands on. In fact, their lending department uses actual Americans in the United States and they help you grow same with individual accounts. It's all US based customer service. Old glory bank dot com slash Eric, member FDIC, equal housing lender terms and conditions apply and it really is my bank. Greetings my friends. It is Eric Eriksen. I am delighted to have you and we need to talk about weirdos. All right, we've been talking about the weirdos this morning and I got to keep talking about the weirdos because boy, do we have some weirdos out there and we're going to keep focusing on them right now because you need to know what the effective altruism movement is.

20:41Listen, I have seen some nuttiness out there just so you understand. There is some I have seen. But remember, what was the the hellbop comment people? I saw someone earlier, they gave this example and it is such a good example that the hellbop comment people remember back when was it the 90s, they were convinced that that this comment was taking them to some sort of like like special place or afterlife or something. It's been a while and I was young at the time, but essentially that they all committed suicide and were convinced they were being raised to a higher plane of existence. The effective altruism people are about as insane as as the hellbop comment people and yet the hellbop comment people were a fringe group, the effective altruism people have placed people all over the place and there's a great piece by Shiam Zanker today in the free press.

21:41I want to I got to read to you part of this. You in I really do have to read part of this. If you turned on cable news last week, you might have seen Jacob Cox and a software engineer who resigned from anthropic and immediately embarked on a media tour. It began on September 8th when Cox and Ward on X that the people building AI earnestly believe that it could kill us all by the end of the decade. A current employee at a frontier lab climbed it chimed in and confirmed that yes, he and many of his co-workers do believe that there's a significant chance AI will kill us all. The odds he said are perhaps greater than 10%. Now pause, pause. How many of these people do you think are Christians? How many of you believe these people Christians? I have a point for raising the question. One of the tenants of Christianity is humility.

22:42Another tenant is God's sovereignty. If you really believe that you have the power to build something that will annihilate humanity, you believe your God, which means you're not actually following Christian tenants of God's sovereignty and humility, which suggests you're not a believer, which suggests you believe you yourself can be a God. There's somebody who wrote a book, you shall be as gods. And it talks about this sort of stuff that the people who believe themselves to be gods. I think his name was Eric Erickson. It was a book came out I think a year ago called you shall be as God. Yes, my book. These people believe they have the power to annihilate the world. You may not be a believer and I can't help you if you're not, but I'm just telling you, we can't annihilate the world. We cannot annihilate the world.

23:42Even himself can do it. And yes, he can do it through us, but I've read the end of the book. We are definitely in the end times I mean, you can see it. You can feel it. There's something happened in the world today. It doesn't feel normal, the earthquakes and the volcanoes, the tsunamis and the storms, the people at each other's throats, the churches tearing each other apart because of politics, the people leaving churches for other churches, because their ears are eachying and they want go find people who can scratch the itch and tell them what they want to hear. It's picked up pace. There's a quickening. You can tell it, but it doesn't end with the robots killing us all. It doesn't end with the man in the machine annihilating us. But these people believe they are gods. And they genuinely believe it. And many of them are in this movement called effective altruism. They are unchurched pagans. Back to the piece. These vague and apocalyptic warnings caused a firestorm online,

24:45including calls for AI safety regulation from the leaders of almost every major AI company. But there's a reason for skepticism. The warnings from Cox and others are infused with an ideology called effective altruism. The term will be familiar to some a few years ago. It was the idea that crypto entrepreneur Sam Bankman Fried said motivated him. Sam Bankman Fried, you may remember, was supposed to be the good billionaire. He made a fortune with his company FTX and gave it away to protect humanity's future, especially from big existential risks. Instead, he stole billions from his customers and was sentenced to 25 years in prison. Today, effective altruism or EA is the unseen force driving AI safety discourse. Its ideals and money, course through institutions seeking to build and govern AI and with an America's future. And Americans deserve to know about it because the EA crowd is trying to restrict your access to the most important technology of the 21st century. Sam Bankman Fried explained the EA approach to morality in a 2022 interview. He said, and I quote, there's something very quantitative about how you view the world.

25:46If you're thinking about things from a utilitarian perspective, in the end, you turn things into numbers and you decide which number is the biggest. That approach allowed him to justify enormous fraud in the present for what he believed would protect a better future. Effective altruism is a utilitarian philosophy that claims to use evidence and reason to do good, ranking competing needs through a common calculus. It leads in strange directions. For example, in a truly universal moral frame, effective altruism argues, why should a single country like the United States or a single species like humanity take precedent? According to effective altruism, shrimp welfare is an urgent priority. All right, I'm sorry. I got to click the link. What the heck is shrimp welfare? We guide the shrimp farming industry towards higher welfare practices for more sustainable and ethical future. 400 billion shrimp are farmed each year. That's more than five times the total number of all farmed land animals combined.

26:49That makes shrimp welfare an area of high impact. Really? Because we harvest so many shrimp for the world to eat, we need to treat them better than cows. Okay, that's shrimp welfare. Wow. Hey, I bet JD Vance is going to get him on the government goal. Effective altruism is obsessed with quantifying existential risk. A fact that explains why discourse around AI has taken an apocalyptic turn. If tortured thought experiments can show that AI is a risk to humanity for all time, then that risk must outweigh virtually any benefit it can provide in the present. The problem is, while effective altruism philosophy claims rationality and precision, it delivers neither. And it could not be further from the views of the American people, which remain stubbornly attached to such things as their country, their children, and their freedom. Consider what it would take to make a true accounting of existential risk. How many people might exist 100 years from now, let alone a million?

27:49What probability should we assign to a machine god destroying humanity? How much should people living today sacrifice to change that probability? Effective altruism shows how a human life can become a rounding error in somebody else's calculation of the greater good. Future people cannot challenge the assumptions made in their name. The philosopher appoints himself the representative that announces that their interests outweigh yours, putting disrupted moral judgments and uncertain prophecies into an equation does not turn them into scientific facts. This is hardly an irrelevant academic exercise. Effective altruism is the belief system of the majority of AI researchers. It is endemic in the AI safety community across all the labs and nonprofits. We, a McCasco founder of the Center for Effective Altruism, help persuade Bankman Freed to pursue earning the give and later join FDX Future Fund team discussing EA in 2022. He called himself remarkably aligned with Sam, Bankman Freed. Remember, Sam, Bankman Freed is the man who justified stealing billions of

28:50dollars from customers because of the better tomorrow he would be able to build with it. Anthropic was tied to Sam, Bankman Freed. Jan Tallinn, who's an investor in Anthropic is. Avital Ballet, a member of the future fund team who resigned with FDX Claps is now the chief of staff to Anthropic CEO, the effect of altruist sort of voting vast sums to push their ideas. Now, I realize this is esoteric for some and that it goes on and I don't want to bore you by by reading someone else's work. So let me just explain this to you. Bottom line is these people believe that they know best for you and the way they do it is through math calculations. Now, I want to I want to play this audio for you. This is Beth Barnes. She is a leader in the effect of altruism cult, giving a TED talk.

29:52She is also the CEO of meter, which is the watchdog group that Dario O'Modie, a Modi of Anthropic wants to be in charge of AI. Now, Jim, it's been a while since I've heard this clip, but I don't believe there's any bad words in it, but just so we just so we're safe, but it's a TED talk. Just y'all listen to this with you. Again, this is the woman that the AI companies want to put in charge of regulating AI. If an outsider looked at our world, they'd wonder what on earth we are doing. We have plenty enough resources to fix all the worst problems. We're just not using them right. She's showing a graph that the world spends more money on male pattern baldness than malaria. You got that. She's showing a graph that the world spends more money on male pattern baldness than malaria. And she's upset about that. This isn't exactly the fault of particular individuals.

30:56It's just that our world is driven by systems that maximize values different from those ones that we actually most care about. For example, the businesses that dominate the market are those that are best at maximising profit. The politicians we get are those who are best at maximising their chances of getting elected. And the stories we're most likely to see and read in the media are those that are best at maximising the likelihood that people would want to read and share them. In the long run, this is bad because values we might care about more like the environment or the welfare of workers in factories or our access to true and useful information get bulldozed out of the way. I'm going to tell you about a system that doesn't do this. A system that allows us to direct our resources to exactly what we believe is most important. And that system is effective charitable giving. I say effective because it's not usually obvious which charities are actually doing the most good. And in the usual charity ecosystem, the charities that thrive are those

32:01that are best at getting people to give them money, not necessarily the ones that are actually best at making the world a better place. However, for research and transparency, it is possible to locate charities that are incredibly good at improving things. Schist's Semias' control initiative doesn't get a lot of funding because it's a weird disease with a long name and the 200 million people who are infected are mostly incredibly poor so no one's ever heard of it. But we know reliably that Schist's Semias' control initiative can treat one child for debilitating parasitic infection for just 50p. And deworming doesn't just improve health. Surprisingly, it's much better for improving educational outcomes than more obvious things like scholarships or giving textbooks to schools. A 70-pound donation to SCI will get 150 months of education for children living in poverty. Or, you know, you can do that money to buy what? Three meals a day?

33:02Because we're so used to this world in which hardly any of resources are actually invested in the most important things. It's astonishing how good charity could be if we just took it more seriously. Now this goes on for another four minutes but listen to what she's actually saying. She's actually saying that she and the effect of altruists are better able through math equations to determine how our world should be ordered than you. She believes that she and these people should be in charge of our lives and they should run math equations to determine what charity should be funded. Where medical research dollars should be spent? What should be taught in schools? These people are would-be dictators and they hide behind a math equation. Sam Bakeman-Freed was one of the big leaders of this and he genuinely believed that he could steal billions of dollars from people today and was justified in doing so because of how much better he

34:07would be able to spend their money than they would to build a better future. That's what the people in charge of AI are. This is their philosophy. They wish to be would-be dictators and so friends, this is why I oppose regulation of the AI industry more than anything else. The reason I oppose the regulation of the AI industry is that the people in charge of the AI industry are a bunch of weirdos and creeps who believe that they should be able to leverage their algorithm to tell you and me how to live and if the government protects them from competition they will be able to control our lives and the information we see and there are a bunch of progressives who believe in progressive values who would shift the whole narrative of the world towards their version of progressivism through a control of information derived through a mathematical equation that they don't want the rest of us to see and it's not a coincidence that they want regulation to shut out the people who believe that the whole world should be able to see the mathematical equation for themselves

35:09find out its weaknesses and tweak it to their own liking. They wish to control us and they can't unless the government gives them the power to regulate themselves and they want that woman you just heard to be in charge of the regulation. The woman who believes with a math equation she can decide which charity should be given money to not you. Mark of Cummins, I'm Raymond Hemey, I registered at trademarks of FCA US LLC. Y'all, you know, I cover the weirdos on the left and the effect of altruists. I want to tell you guys I am working on a piece because I've gotten a lot of questions from a lot of people about what

36:15is happening on the right. You're suddenly got all these people who are in defense of Franco, the Spanish dictator, all the anti-Semites and the racist, the fight within the Southern Baptist Convention for moving it to the right and all these calls to get rid of the 19th amendment for women and stuff like that. It's all an effort to shift what they call the over 10 window of the bounds of acceptable discourse. And I'm writing a big piece and I intend to push it out tomorrow on my morning newsletter and I am name and names. I am I am street. I am putting all the all the lines together and name of the names. There is an organized movement on the right to take over institutions and essentially not to fight them. And I'm not I don't use the notifying them lightly. It is an actual thing. These people are sympathetic to the Nazis, a lot of white nationalists. They're pouring money into take over the Southern Baptist Convention among other things. They believe in an ethno nationalist state in the United States. They're trying to

37:17take over the Southern Baptist Convention and the Presbyterian Church in America. They're trying to take over conservative institutions and they're succeeding. And I just want to give you a heads up. If you text Eric to 33777, you can click the first link and subscribe. And in the morning, I will name the names and tie it all together. These are some deeply weird, malcontented souls. One of whom actually says he wants America to come to an end so that he can be a dictator war lord and what's to come. And he's throwing his money into institutions on the right to co-op them and train staffers. And you'll be interested to know how many of them are in the vice presidents orbit. I'm name and names tomorrow morning. Subscribe today. Text Eric to 33777. It's ERICK. In Batavea, Illinois, at 240 in the morning, a woman woke up to a noise at her backyard in saw flashlight. She called the cops. Man was arrested. He had previously been thrown out

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