Reddington Asks Trump For Clancy Pardon, While POTUS Honors The Man In The Red Bandana | 9.08.26 - The Grace Curley Show Hour 1

0:00Sugar, Spide, and everything. These were the ingredients chosen to create the Grace Curly Show. Radio TV, print, Grace Curly does it all. She sings, she dances, she acts. I'm waiting for the door for my Pulitzer. She's in the video. She's just the worst. Yeah, she's a wacko. She is, she is the devil. I'm in hell. Now here's the millennial with the mic. She still leaves me both breathless and speechless. I love her. I love her. She is the best. Does anybody want to ask you to say Grace? Grace Curly. Right. Hello, everyone, and welcome back to the Grace Curly Show. I hope you're all having a great start to your work week. I know a lot of people had the day off yesterday. I hope you enjoyed it. And we, I would say we are back, but we never went anywhere, Taylor.

1:01We were live yesterday. We're live today. And we're going to bring you guys a great, great show. A lot happening today in the news. Yes, Kevin Reddington. Man, this, this guy is a lightning rod. He, he, really, everywhere he goes, he's creating headlines. I think that's kind of the point. And we're going to talk about this latest one, asking Trump to pardon Lindsay Clancy. I don't really understand how that would even work. I don't think it would. I don't think he can pardon her when she was tried or if they're trying her under Massachusetts state law, but he threw it out there. So apparently there's this theory now because he, Kevin Reddington, he appealed to the, the Massachusetts Supreme Court asking for, you know, a stay on this, this, this juror, that the juror be dismissed on the grounds that he violated the American Disabilities Act. Right. Right. By not applying law to somebody who allegedly had a mental health crisis, which was the

2:03whole basis of what they were deliberating on to begin with. So that wasn't really the side of time. As Jonathan Turley said when he heard about this part, Taylor, he said, now we're bordering on the surplus. No, these, yeah, these, these are, these are the Patrick Clancy conspirators. I think that are coming up with this. It's now that that distinction is made, the pardon at the case goes into like secret maritime law. And that falls under President Trump's complete jurisdiction based on parties. So yeah, it's, it's, it's President Trump is going to, he's going to become Speaker of the House and he's going to become president for the third time. That kind of thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, which must be fun. Like that, that world living in that world where these things happen. Oh, yeah, Jared's perpetually there. Yeah, yeah, say hi to one for me, you know, when he's there because I'm sure you're right. He is, but yeah, this kind of stuff. I, it's the way and I actually want to start with something else, Taylor, but I do want to, I don't know if I'm the only one picking up on this. It's like the way Reddington is talking about her is giving me the heavy duties.

3:07He's really laying it on. It's like, remember when, all right, so Taylor's also with the other kid and they used to say, you know, you have to let people suspend their disbelief, but there's a limit to how, how much people can suspend their disbelief. So you have to be in that world. So sometimes you're, you're in a play or something. It's too far fetched. You lose people. You got to keep it, you got to keep the reality here. I can't suspend. Like, maybe you could convince me, oh, she was having this mental break and she was like, okay, that's one thing. But what you're trying to convince me of now is that she, somebody I should admire or that she's some sort of wonderful person we should all aspire to be. And that's where I go, you're losing me, Kevin. You're losing me. I'm lost. I'm out of here. I don't like this. I think it's crazy. And he was doing that whole stick with George Stephanopoulos. I get that he's her defense lawyer. I get that he's her attorney. I get this is his job. But I don't know if it makes it right. Do you ever, do you ever think like that Taylor, where it's these lawyers?

4:08Did they reach a point where they go, yeah, I got to do the best job for my client. But do I have to do this? Do I have to talk about how she turned me on to rascal flask? No, this is part of becoming a defense lawyer. You just, you sign the paper willingly to sell your soul. Oh, okay. But you know what? I don't remember Alan Jackson acting like this with Karen Reed. You know, I mean, whether or not you think Karen Reed did it, I don't think he never said, oh, she's a terrific woman. And she's, you know, such an upstanding citizen. I mean, yeah, she stepped in when, you know, he had to take on the two kids of his sister. But it never really went on to hero worship. This is a whole new level. That's where the hero worshiping is where I just think he's pushing it. He's really pushing it with that. And there's a couple of other things that stood out to me. And I do understand because I've been reached out to now by a few people, a few legal beagles. And I respect it because you guys know them on the opposite side here. I couldn't be further away from that.

5:09But a few people have said to me, like he's not going to defend Patrick Clancy because that's not his client. And it doesn't help his client to squash these theories or to squash, you know, all the noise surrounding him. And again, I sit here as just a girl. I'm just a woman standing in front of a microphone, making the case that I don't know if that's right. Like I get it. Okay, take away all of the strategy and the planning and what you got to do and you want to win. I know it's all about winning for people. But this guy is being completely hung out to dry. And he was a witness for the defense. He was a witness for the prosecution too, but he was a witness for the defense. And this is what he gets is he getting stalked in New York City by paparazzi and people think that he did it. And the best you can say is like, well, you know, I didn't accuse him of it. And I'm curious. Lawyers out there texting. Is that the right move? Because again, sometimes I'm just not smart enough like these lawyers to understand that it's business. I'm just trying to operate as business.

6:11I let emotion get into it. I do think that's wrong. I do think you owe this kid something like he testified. He's been honest. There's really no facts that are supporting these theories. And yet you're kind of, I think, giving oxygen to them. But it's in his benefit. It's for his benefit to have a potential jury pool out there for another trial that's filled with wackos who will believe anything that comes across. And the more something pervades throughout society and just continues to get any kind of steam, as long as he doesn't stick a knife in the tire himself and deflate it, just says, yeah, I don't know what that's about. You know, I didn't put that forward. But it's up here. But here's the question, Taylor. And I want you to answer me honestly. Do you think there's lawyers who could defend Lindsey Clancy, who if the situation arose and they were asked about this, would feel compelled to say it or would feel compelled in their own minds to go, yeah, it might benefit me in a long run to give this oxygen or to not, you know, to not put a nail in this coffin.

7:14But I'm still going to say that I don't think he had anything to do with it. Even if it's not your weapon, it's one that's helping you and your cause. And you can, you can distance yourself from it, but you don't have to deflate it. Like I said, you sign a contract and sell your soul. Yeah, sell your soul. Taylor, you would have been a great defense attorney. That's, I think you missed your calling, bro. No, I'm just kidding. I wanted to, and we'll take your calls on this, what you think, 844-542-42. As always, I'm open to hearing from people. If I'm totally off base, I'm too sensitive, though. I'm too sensitive. I think of it as like the right versus the wrong. And I know that's not the world we're in anymore. I know that that's not how these lawyers work, especially. I'm not that naive where I think they're all, you know, trying to do the right thing. I wanted to start with a few updates on what Trump is doing today, which I think is extremely important, extremely moving. As I said yesterday, this is the week of the 25th anniversary of 9-11, which will be on

8:15Friday. And I think it's incredibly important to not just remember what happened, but to remind people what happened, to reflect on it, to educate people about that day that changed everything, changed so many lives forever. And Trump is hosting the Steel Across America event today at the White House. This is a major event today. He's honoring 9-11 first responders. And there is a 12 foot nearly 17,000 pound steel beam recovered from the World Trade Center South Tower is being displayed. And what I thought was really amazing is that every year, I try every year to watch the story of the man in the Red Bandana that's Wells Crowther who was the 24-year-old. He was an equity straiter. And college lacrosse player, he was 24 and he was in one of the towers and he went back up and down the stairs three times. I watched it this morning, actually. So the fact that his mother is there today, getting this award from Donald Trump honoring

9:15her son, the presidential medal of freedom, really stood out to me. It would have anyway, but just because it was so fresh in my mind, I was watching it today, Taylor. And I'm like, it's hard to, I don't think you can put into words. The level of courage and goodness that someone has to have at 24 years old to go up those stairs once and lead people to safety and bring them down. I guess what happened was he went up the stairs, got a group of people, brought them down to firefighters who were on a lower level and who were putting people in elevators, any of the elevators that were working. And then according to the people that he saved, he went back up for the second time. Now at this point, you're going back up a second time. That's already crazy. Goes back down, brings another group down, goes up a third time and he died in the tower. But I just, I was thinking about that. I'm like, as a parent, you must, because you know your reaction as a parent when you find

10:18out your kid is in danger. It's like, you get out of there. You know, I'm parent. I know that's how parents operate. It's like, you get out of there. Get out of there. Get yourself to safety. And then you've got this kid. He's 24 years old and it's like, no, I'm going to keep going. I'm going to keep trying to help people. I just, I can't imagine what you have to have done right as a parent and what kind of kid you have to raise to have that be his last moments on this earth. I find it every time I read about it, every time I watch it, I cry. I can't really put into words that kind of heroic spirit and what I think of when I think of that, it breaks my heart. But I'm also like, wow, what a testament to that person. 24, he's a kid. And he's, and he had the reason he's called the man with the red bandana is because when he was five or six, his dad used to carry around his like comb, his pocket comb and a red bandana. And he gave it to his son and he used to wear it in his helmet. It was like his good luck charm. He used to wear it during lacrosse games.

11:18So we had it with him that day. And that's how all of these survivors were able to figure out who he was and then tell people after the fact that that was the person who saved them. This is one story that is remembered and reflected on every year on the anniversary. But there are so many like this. There are Todd Beamer. That's another story we'll talk about. There are so many like this that it doesn't, a week does not do this justice. A week does not give us enough time to talk about all of the heroes. That one seeing his mother up on the stage today with Trump so moved, thanking Trump for this great honor that has been bestowed on her family that is so well deserved. It's just, it's an emotional week. And if you, one of the things that sometimes I think people can feel a little bit goofy about Taylor is if you ask them to talk about where they were, if they didn't have a direct connection to New York City that day. Like if you're not in the towers or if you're not around that area, then maybe your story

12:21isn't as interesting. I actually feel the opposite. I love to hear about where people were, what people remember. I think that it just brings us back to that moment and that collective and that shared panic and fear. And I think there's value in that and remembering that day. Even if you were in Ohio and you were just watching it on the news gobsmacked, you're about to take your kid to jimbery and you know, you saw it on the news. I think all of those stories and those moments of I remember that day vividly are good for people, younger people too, who either don't remember it or weren't born yet and are ignorant to just how impactful and devastating it was. So all week long, I have the lines open and anyone who wants to call in and just share anything about that. I would really appreciate it. I'd say it's 844-542-42. But again, just a really beautiful ceremony today put on by the White House looking at that 17,000-pound steel beam recovered from the south tower being displayed at the White

13:23House honoring those families. And I think this is a really good use of everybody's time to take a moment and remember and also just to be grateful. Don't take anything for granted. I know it's cliche. It's become cliche to say that. And on a week like this, you look around and you think about your blessings and you just you try to impart something into people who don't remember it or don't take it as seriously as they should. So we'll be back. We'll take your calls and we'll continue this conversation on the other side. More of the Grace Curly Show up next. This is the Grace Curly Show. Welcome back everyone to the Grace Curly Show. The families of 9-11 victims are holding a press conference asking the mayor of New York

14:27cities to run mom Donnie not to attend the ceremonies on Friday in New York City. Taylor, I don't see a world in which he doesn't attend. I mean, he's the mayor of New York City. I'm not saying it's right that he attend. I'm not saying I want him to attend, but I don't see him bowing out of this. Kind of a loose, loose for him. He goes, he pisses off all these families, but he doesn't go and he pisses off anybody. Why weren't you there? You're the mayor of New York City. So it is crazy though that we have these like 9-11 apologists and then you've got Hocle and the hijab and it's 25 years later and I just don't think anyone would have believed it. And that's Michael's list from yesterday. Yes. 10 years. What would you have told Grace 10 years ago? Oh, well, the governor of New York will be wearing a hijab and the mayor of New York City will be being asked by the 9-11 families not to attend the ceremonies because he's so insensitive and some of the things that he said about 9-11 make my skin crawl or the some of the people he's associated with and the things they've said and the support

15:29that they have for 9-11 would make your skin crawl. That would be a doozy for 10 years younger Grace Curly. It really would, I think it would be a doozy for a lot of us. I saw one and this is kind of a standing thing, but every, every time around this year, a lot of us try to watch documentaries about 9-11, try to remember people like Wells Crouther and other heroes Todd Beamer. But then there are people working overtime, working on to five pumping out articles like this one in the Detroit news 25 years after 9-11, many Muslims fear a new backlash. There is Norm McDonald rest in peace norm, but everything that tweet from Norm McDonald aged like a fine wine. It is so true. That's what everyone's worried about right now in the media. They're not, they're worried about backlash Taylor from Muslims on this anniversary of 9-11. That's number one and number two is they're still worried about that decoy plane.

16:32What the hell are you going to do about this decoy plane situation? No one seems to care about this. They have their priorities. You just have to pay attention to what those priorities are. All right. Now, as I mentioned, we open the show with it. Kevin Reddington creating more controversy today when he asked Donald Trump to intervene in Grant Lindsey Clancy apart in. I didn't think it was possible because this is state, you know, this is the federal or state kind of thing. Taylor explained this five-dimensional chest that could occur in order for this to happen. It brings us to our poll question, which is brought to you by J.J. Vanning auctioneers, whether residential commercial or land, J.J. Manning can get your property sold now to learn more contact Charlie Gill at 800-521-0111 or go to J.J. Manning.com. Taylor, what is the PQ and what are the results thus far? Today's poll question, which you can vote in at GraceCurlyShow.com is, will President Trump pardon Lindsey Clancy? No. 96% say no.

17:34I also, and Reddington mentioned this, he said, oh, well, the president felt compelled to speak about this. So I thought I would ask him. I looked at that up because I didn't know that Taylor. I didn't know that Trump had answered a question on Friday about Lindsey Clancy. Based off the quote I read, and you know, maybe his delivery was different, but based off the quote I read, it didn't sound like someone who was leaning towards too much sympathy for Lindsey Clancy. It's a Hail Mary throw, but I don't think it's going to work. We'll be right back. We're going to talk Nick Shirley, who is going to be speaking at Harvard tomorrow and the reception he's getting in the comments of the Instagrams. The GraceCurlyShow is on the air. And what do you say to those critics who say this is a rationalization? What we're talking about here is just plain evil. Oh, please. It's nothing. It's not evil.

18:34These people don't understand. They don't know what she went through. They didn't see her text messages. They didn't see her journal. They didn't see the notes that she wrote. They didn't see the text she sent to a mother on October saying, Mommy, can you please come to here? I am sick. Something's wrong. And it was a result of the medications. They don't know about the number of times that she reached out. She went to the woman in infants. She went to the suicide hotlines. She reached out to everybody and anybody that would listen to it and kept saying, I am not good. I am not well. And it was ignored. All right. So a few things here. One is that I find, Reddington, and this is just a style critique. I find him to be a little pompous. And it's starting to wear on me a bit. Like I've watched a lot of him over the last couple days. And I don't like his attitude. Even that laugh right there where it's like, oh, it's not evil. It's not. It's killing your three kids. It's not that evil to me. But then the other part of it, Taylor, I don't understand why we're acting like these things have to be mutually exclusive. You can be in post, let's go into the world where she was in post-partum psychosis.

19:35And I kind of do believe that because I have a hard time figuring out how someone could do this otherwise. Who's to say that you can't be in post-partum psychosis and also be doing something evil? Why are we acting like one of those things negates the other? Well, it can't be evil because she was, well, what do you call it then? What do you call this? He's really, he's getting lost in it. And then the last part of that cut is what I had an issue with with his attitude towards that one juror, which is you just don't get it. Like the people who think that she's evil just don't understand. They haven't seen her journals. Well, I've been following this case pretty closely. I've read a lot of the text and you know, anything that we were privy to, anything that we could see as media or journalists or just people who were following it. I've read all that. I can still look at this and say she's, this is an evil act. And it's not because I don't get it. That stuff pisses me off more than anything. Is the condescending attitude of anytime someone disagrees with you or anyone someone has an opinion that doesn't align with yours.

20:40Well, you just don't understand. And Taylor, you got a lot of this on Instagram. Anytime Taylor opens his mouth about this, he's told another man who doesn't understand. Oh, yeah. And I'm like, yeah, he is a man. And most of the time he doesn't understand, but in this case, I don't know if that's applicable. I don't understand why you can't disagree with people without it being thrown in your face. And I think Taylor, what a lot of people also why can't evil exist inside of a psychosis. Exactly. Exactly. What who's to say it's mutually exclusive. But the other thing Taylor, which I think people assume about you, is that when you make these comments about Lindsey Clancy, that you're therefore saying or that you're kind of implying that you don't believe that postpartum depression or any of these things can exist. And I've talked you off the air and you fully understand what what's how these that how women can suffer from this stuff after giving birth. But you just don't think that that is a legitimate excuse or a legitimate reason to let her

21:44off. So a lot of personal accountability that needs to take place. And if Lindsey Clancy was doing all of that and still being ignored, find that explains her story up to that point, but it doesn't explain to me why she killed her children and thought nothing of it or thought enough of it to realize that she had done something terrible and tried to take her own life. But no, I do understand what postpartum depression is about. I've in my own family had to deal with that. And we got through it. It's something that it takes a toll and it takes a lot to go through. But once you're through it, it is such a cloud that's lifted. But while it's there, it's rough. It's rough for everybody. So I do sympathize with, or empathize I can never remember which one it is with women who do go through that. It's terrible. And I just hate to see that happen. And I also don't excuse behaviors just because there is a psychosis attributed to it or

22:47depression attributed to it. I have to take some personal responsibility for what you do. I agree. And the way that he's talking about her, like let's take, for example, cut one place. This is Kevin Rankton. Again, this is this morning he was on with George Stephanopoulos. This is the interview everyone's going to be talking about today. This is cut one. Talk a little bit more about your client. What was her reaction when the mistrial decision came in? Well, anybody that knows Lindsay knows her background. She's very, very intelligent, hardworking, theme in the trial that people that knew her. She was a labor and delivery nurse, well respected in mass general hospital for about nine years. Just a wonderful neighbor, friend, wife, mother. Just an incredible person. I wouldn't, I mean, I would even assume that behind the scenes, Lindsay Clancy is cringing listening to that.

23:48Like if she really thinks she was inside, if she was really in psychosis and she did this and she regrets it, which is what we're being told, then I wouldn't want anyone extolling all my virtues on TV at that point. I would be like, all right, let's see. You know, you'd get me in a mental facility, but we don't have to tell people how wonderful I am. I kind of think that ship has sailed. No. Maybe that's just me being sensitive. Then he says this and again, he's very obsessed with talking about his bond with Lindsay Clancy. This is cut two. And say she's like a daughter to you. What do you want people to know about her and what did she say to you after the trial? Yeah, we, I do feel a very strong bond with Lindsay because of the type of person she is. You have to understand that, for example, when she was a mass general, she was, the people, the nurses just were coming forward to testify for her as to her character. When she was all beat up and injured and in the Brigham of Women's Hospital, one of the the chaplain got to know her and literally visited it and to this day is still visiting

24:53with her. For three years, three and a half years, Dr. Cizal, three and a half years later, all these people continue to visit with her just because she's such a wonderful, wonderful person. Oh, God, it's, it's a lot. He's laying it on really thick. And I had to watch the entire presser on Friday, but now hearing him request this part, it's, it's becoming, it was already a circus, but this is just taking it over the top. Let's hear this one and then we'll go to the calls. This is cut 10. What's next for Lindsay? I'd like to say that perhaps Donald Trump, who felt compelled to speak out about this case, made very well as the president, I would hope that you would consider this young lady type of person she is, what she's been through and consider a part of it. Oh, did this, the other part of it? My pleasure. That's the other part of it, Taylor, what she's been through, what she's been through.

25:54And I understand she's as client and that's the line they're going with what she's been through and how awful this has been for her and how, and yeah, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, yeah, I would imagine that it would be awful for her to have to relive all this, but again, she's not the one who I feel all of this sympathy for. I feel sympathy for her three children who were lured down to the basement and strangled to death with exercise bands. And I am confused why he keeps making it out to be like, everyone's being so mean to her. I mean, if anything, she's getting a lot of this weirdo support from these pink-shirted people outside, but even that he's not happy with. It's like you guys have no idea. She had to come to trial every day. Well, yeah, yeah. And that was the other thing. Oh, she, and the way she came to trial every day and she worked so hard, well, if you kill your kids and you're on trial, yeah, you got to come every day. I don't even get it. I don't even get it.

26:54Jimmy, you're up next on The Grace Hurley Show. Go ahead, Jimmy. Hey, good afternoon, Grace. I think I'm going to shift topics on you. Yeah, please do. Honestly, Jimmy, please do. Yes. OK. I was telling you're call screener. I'm one of your New York listeners, you know? And I'm watching Fox News just now. And they had the press conference down in the city, the so-called press conference of the petitioners of the family members of the victims of 9-11. I do not want the mayor to attend the ceremonies this week. So they had everybody speak, they had up there, the head of the Catholic League was there, Councilwoman Paladino spoke. And they turned to the press corps and they said, any questions? And what you got was crickets. And even Harris Faulkner, she says it's a press conference. She says, you kidding me? She goes, I'm so glad we covered it as if to get like the word out. And that was my take on her comment. And it's just the disgrace. I mean, the New York press corps won't ask questions about 9-11. And all these victims families are there.

27:55I mean, this Mamdaniga, he's that radioactive that they don't want to touch a new story or ask a question. And it was really, it was an awkward silence and it was beyond bizarre. It's just. Yeah, but you know what Jimmy, on the flip side, because you know, I always love to go glass half full. It's better than they probably stopped themselves from asking a question along the lines of, do you think you're Islamophobic for not wanting? Do you think that you're actually these transgressions that you're committing against the mayor? Do you act? Do you fear for a Muslim backlash because of your press conference asking Mamdani who pals around with Hassan Piker not to come? I mean, that's what we could have been dealing with. So if that's the other option, I would take the silence. At least they had the courtesy to not ask the dumbass questions that were probably, you know, pouring through their heads at that moment. But I agree with you. I agree with you. I think that Mamdani is going to go to this on 9-11 in New York City. He is the mayor and like Taylor said, I don't think there's another option for him. But I totally agree with you that it's, it's disgusting.

28:57The way these families are treated the way the story or the narrative from our despicable press seems to always be about how the real victims are Muslims who are, you know, getting undue backlash and are fearful for their safety. That's not what the story is here. Like again, you guys have to, you have to, maybe we focus on the people 25 years ago who were jumping out of buildings. Maybe we focus on the people like, for example, and this is one of the stories that sticks out to me and a lot of people have been talking about it, Todd Beamer, 32. I remember when I was, when I, when all this was happening to her and I'd hear about these people, they seemed so old to me. You know, we were in fourth grade and you hear about the heroes and the firefighters and they seem old. Like you're in fourth grade. Everyone seems, oh, they're all adults. 32 years old. Father of three. His wife was pregnant with their third and he was on United Flight 93.

30:02And after the hijacking, this is from Nila Joy on Twitter. There's also video of this. I think there's actually audio of it too. Or there's maybe what I saw was a woman, the operator who he was on with explaining what she was hearing because that's another crazy part about 9.11 is the amount of people and I talked a little bit about this yesterday, the amount of people who knew what was happening to a degree, maybe not the entire scope, but they knew that their life was coming to an end. And it was probably coming to an end pretty fast that they were able to like a stewardess on the plane or that they were able to communicate with operators and explain calmly. Sometimes one of the women, 23 minutes talking about, here's what's happening, the hijackers and the cockpit. This is blah, blah, blah. This is what we think. This is what we heard. I mean, right there Taylor, like that's heroism. That's beyond what I think a lot, a lot of people like to think about, oh, if I was in a situation, you know, I'd be the.

31:05I am so humbled and so in awe of people who in situations like this, not only remain calm, but have courage and do what's really hard and a lot of these people, they're on the lines with operators, they're giving them critical information that saved countless other lives because then they were able to figure out and actually what's so incredible about flight 93 and I know I'm not telling you guys anything you don't know, but because they were able to figure out that these planes were being used as weapons, they were able to rush the cockpit and the plane went into a field in Shang'sville instead of Washington. And who knows how many people they saved by doing that, by putting up that fight. So there's all of these stories that we should be talking about and sharing. And if you tune in to any of the mainstream media, it's like, let's talk about how everyone's being mean to Hassan Piker and he's just a streamer who wants to explain why we deserve

32:089-11 and you know why we deserve 9-11 because hurt people, hurt people. Who knows how many of these terrorists didn't have access to five star restaurants and Michelin quality dining. But that's if that's the other option that they set that one out for, I say to the reporters, good job. Maybe don't ask questions. Ron, you're up next on the Grace Curly show. Go ahead, Ron. Grace, how are you? I'm good. What's going on? So with the 9-11, I think another, I mean, there's a million stories around 9-11, but I think when it comes to warning people about Islam, then we need to talk about Daniel Pearl. But that's not the reason that I had called. I was saying that the attorney, the defense attorney for Lindsey Clancy, it sounds like in the process of trying to gaslight the public and everybody, he's gasping with himself.

33:09Yeah. That's a good way to say it. That's a good way. But then the part of it, Ron, that sticks out to me, and this was Mark Bedero who posted on social media. He said, the President of the United States has no ability whatsoever to issue pardons in connection with state criminal prosecutions, basic federalism. And a lot of people's responses to that was, or were, yeah, and he knows that. So a lot of this has to just be theater and has to be just keeping himself in the headlines and keep generating this hysteria around this case. I don't think he, I can't imagine that he doesn't understand federalism, that he doesn't understand Trump doesn't have this ability. And perhaps he just wants to keep it going. Keep up the obsession with this case. And maybe that as a lawyer, maybe that's a smart thing to do, but I'm just letting everyone know. And this is, this is my new thing. I get on these panels sometimes and say everyone's an expert. Everyone has a law degree. Everybody's smarter than I am. And I go, all right, that's all well and good, but can I just tell you how it reads to a normie, how it reads to a regular gal, it's weird.

34:09It's weird and it's upsetting. And it makes my stomach turn. And that's how I feel right now, which is if you know that Trump can't do that, the only reason you're saying this on Good Morning America is to get people to, and look at it's working. It's working. I'm happy for the distractions. Like when that caller said I'm going to change the subject, but it is a big story today. There's no questioning that. Thank you for the call, Ron. We'll be right back. We'll take more calls. I'm really loving how people are weighing in on all these different issues. And it's really open to you guys. If there's one story that is sticking out to you, feel free. I do want to hit on Nick Shirley's story before we wrap up today. So stay with us. We'll be right back. The Grace Curly Show will return. This is the Grace Curly Show. Welcome back everyone. We've got two big stories in the next hour. Nick Shirley speaking at Harvard and Courtney Lewandowski in his bomb show report in the

35:12Wall Street Journal. We'll get to both of those. Tom, your next up on the GCS. What's going on Tom? Hey, I was just saying is one of the things that with all this immigration talk is everybody forgets how the investigation unfolded afterwards. How these terrorists got into the country, how they took all the flying lessons and a few people saw red flags. But it was like, oh no, let's all just get along and then look what happened. Yeah. Yeah. And was it one of the people and correct me on this tom if I'm wrong? Was it one of the people? Who's that actor Taylor? He's a great actor. He's a Republican. He's on Twitter all the time. And he actually saw like a dry run and alerted federal authorities about it before 9-11. Do you remember this story? John Voight? No, not John Voight. I'm blanking on his name. My dad's going to be so mad at me because my dad.

36:12James Woods. James Woods, yeah. Yeah. And he saw a dry run of this or at least this is what's my reported and he alerted them. But to your point, Tom, you're right. I mean, when you aren't on top of it, and that's why everything has changed so drastically in this country now. But when you are not on top of who's coming into the country, there are a lot of bad actors out there. We are the devil to a lot of people around the world. And we'll talk more about that when we come back. But thank you for the call. Don't go anywhere. We've got more on this on the other side.