Rapid Fire: Blue-Gold Quick Sacks, Jadarian Price Talks Transfer Temptations, NFL Draft ,

0:00Every team, every topic, everywhere. This is believed. Our number two of the show and that means forgot to add this guy. Maybe I didn't forget to add this guy. Bobby Hensley is here and it's rapid fire time. Jesse's here. I'm Sean Steyer's Bobby Hensley is here. Is everybody ready to mix it up? Honestly, I've been looking forward to this this moment all day. I realized that Monday means Bobby and that means I get to do some rapid fire with Bobby. That's funny that you're very really even here on Mondays and you remember that it's Bobby day when Vince is here every

1:04week and he never remembers Bobby's going to be here. So I think I'm his fever dream that he just blocks out a week and then I pop up and he's like, oh, great. Yeah, exactly. I was at the blue gold game. Thanks. I didn't know you were there. I got this random text. He said, so taking the day off. Were you in the press box? Where were you, Bobby? Yeah, I was on the press box and then you were on the field. Yeah, I was on top. Thought about the roof. Yeah, no, I wasn't the press box and then I was on the field at the end. And I was like, I don't see Sean Steyer's anywhere around here. Yeah, he had to do was look to your left. We were in the first booth. We're, you know, like left of the main press box in the radio booth. I told you we were going the game. Yeah, you told me that after I texted you, I think that I exist to you one day a week and, you know, Saturday's not Monday. So you didn't want to double down and have two times. It's not my fault that you haven't heard me mention for the last month that we were calling the game.

2:07Come on. Well, you know, maybe on social media, you put out a little graphic. So you were coverage. You were just saying that. Don't you be his personal producer at this point, right? Like it goes back to that one day a week thing. So you were just saying that the draft in the blue gold game, not necessarily your cup of tea because neither one of them is a real game, huh? Yeah, for me, the drafts incredibly boring. They did a better job speeding it up. But the draft is a quintessential Jesse vibe. He loves it. He likes looking at who they could take, who they're going to take, how long they're going to be on the roster, how they'll fit it in the depth chart. I don't care. Let's give me at least some preseason football to see him on the field. They can do the whole draft behind closed doors. No one knows and the season will roll around and Bobby would be perfectly happy with that. You would take preseason football over the draft is what you just said.

3:10Yes. And the only part that would make it even close is the top of the first round. But after pick five, who cares anyway? This explains your dirt track fascination. Well, how many how many draft picks from last year's draft? Do we care about this year already? How many of them fall off? Especially after the top. All right. Save it. We've got more draft talk coming up. You're sticking on the draft and the blue gold games just to practice anyway. It is. It is. Also, but it's a public practice where that people get to see. It's kind of like the unveiling the T's going into the offseason to make people feel good. You know, a lot of people came in from out of town to go to the blue gold game. It was a beautiful weather day. I like, I don't think you could ask for a better day to be out there at an overboom practice at Notre Dame Stadium. No, that part. I love all that and I love it more than the draft. It's more entertaining than that. But it's still, you know, we got some players on the field. I got to see some ball. So that part's not bad, but we're in baseball season now. All right. Bobby coming in hot as always. It's no surprise that the fighting Irish quarterbacks were in the red jerseys for Saturday's blue gold game.

4:18But the quick calls on the sacks are what one of the things I think that stood out here is a little sample. That's a territory. They're going to sack. Come on. C.J. Carter was stepping up in the pocket. A pinky nibbled him and they're going to call that a sack. This is where I got a problem with the blue gold game because every time, you know, we get sacks like this. You know what I mean? Like there was no way that in real life that that's a sack. I don't know. I don't know. Are you good with the quick sack calls in the spring game like we saw Saturday? You're okay with the quick sack calls because really it's it's really hard for the defense in those situations because if you don't go just touch sacks and you allow some sort of physicality, the defense is going to take every advantage of every part of that opportunity.

5:27It's just how basically if you don't allow anything but touch, what's going to happen is is how do you control how physical you can be because I think it's subjective at the end of the day and especially for defensive guys who want to make a play. They almost need like when you do the laser tag thing, you know, like obviously you're not going to shoot them, but like they need some kind of laser sensors on them. But like you have to touch them hard enough that you make like the sensor go off at least like that way, it just felt, it just felt very quick, you know. Yeah, I guess you're right. I understand Jesse's point. How do you curtail it? It's like, you know, terrible analogy. It's like WWE. You can't pull a punch back. It looks way too fake. And that's what we're doing here. You're telling the defense to go at him and look like you're throwing a punch, but don't actually hit anybody. So I understand you're protecting obviously we want healthy players. So I understand all that, but man watching that it was a couple of times. I was in obviously the press box as far away, but did they even touch them? I have to like look in and see a replay.

6:30And to the point of there wouldn't have been a sack in real life. It wouldn't even have been remotely a sack. So I don't know how you can fix it in this situation. So I guess I'm okay with it because I don't have an answer for how to make it better. But it is painful to watch because like, oh, it takes you out of the moment almost because it's such a light touch. Well, yeah, because you know, again, like there were a couple times like that. That was like the tail end. I didn't play the full play, but like you couldn't even tell from live action that there had actually been a touch. It's almost like the quarterbacks need to wear like flag football flags or something like you at least have to grab the flag for it to be a sack. That would that would satisfy me. I think a little bit more than like Jesse said, breaking a finger now coming around and grazing part of the jersey. I understand you've got to protect the quarterback. I've got no, you know, and that's that's important, especially when the first team is just playing.

7:31Thud touch anyway, you know, like you have to make sure that the most important guy in the field is not going to be injured. So I get it, but it's a little tough to watch. Like, like I say, I was surprised to see that on your show topics because I noticed it jarringly in person that you couldn't see anybody being touched. And it's like, well, at that point, they should almost just make the quarterback. All right, you're down, throw the ball. Anyway, so we can practice getting the CB some reps. Right. All right. Well, after being drafted onto some draft topics at the end of the first round by the Seattle Seahawks former Notre Dame running back. Jadarian price did an interview with Brock with the Brock and sock show in Seattle. They asked him about his decision to stay at Notre Dame as the backup to Jeremiah love. And here's what price had to say times where it was hard where you and your agent and your mom and family are like, who's pretty life changing money that someone's thrown at me. Were any of those conversations very difficult? Yeah, right after the National Championship season, I think it was like two weeks after he did multiple calls, teams from Texas coming back home.

8:40I could come back home, post with family, everyone gets come to games, North Carolina with the check like multiple, I mean, it's bad like when you we don't come from much and then your mom here is to offer their give you up front. And she just came to tears like it's just really like real and I felt I felt the type of way when I had to tell her, I have a plan and I think I want to stay at Notre Dame. Even though I'm going to be making half of what you know, this light change and money is, but yeah. And I feel like that plan working so. All right. So there's Jadarian price. What stood out to you? First of all, they're Jesse. Yeah, I think what stood out the most is, you know, someone having their plan, a young, you know, young man having a plan and sticking to it despite, you know, lots of money being thrown in his face. I think that's an incredible amount of discipline and is really just a testament to who he is as a player because I think he was looking at more of the long term plan instead of kind of the short term.

9:53And I think it paid off for him in the end, because he ended up being a first round draft pick. And I don't know if you could say the same would have been true. How'd he gone elsewhere? Yeah, like the specific one was like he talked about Bill Bella check in North Carolina. I probably would have heard his draft stock by going there because he who knows how successfully could have been in that system that was broken all year. I think what makes it hard would be two things one that he's taking a half price hometown discount. And when I say hometown, I mean, Notre Dame because his actual hometown area is trying to get him back some schools from that area. So it's kind of it says a lot about him, but I think like you were kind of saying when he goes in those interviews and the combine stuff, it's really easy for him to say he's loyal and he's a good guy because he can sell himself on the fact he came back. Plus he sold he saved a lot of tread on his tires by being one of the tandem backs instead of being a bell cow standalone at a different college that might not have been as prestigious or he might not have been viewed as much.

10:54I mean, yes to everything that you guys are saying, but yes to what Irish shite town says is well very honest, but sounds a lot like tampering not sounds a lot like tampering it. I'll just remind everyone. Jardarian price never entered the transfer portal, yet all of these specific teams. And as he said, North Carolina with Bill Bella check flat out offered him money, having never entered the transfer portal. Look, we know this stuff goes on all the time. So so yes, there's there's devotion and dedication to Jardarian price and obviously applaud him for that for, you know, not just bailing for money and for having a plan. And knowing that the plan was going to work out for him and being willing, you know, to sacrifice a bigger role by going to one of these other schools and staying here and being in tandem with Jeremiah love. But the guy never entered the transfer portal and he's talking specifically about Bill Bella check offering him whatever lot of money that is out there that like sent off alarm bells for me right away.

12:02I don't know about you guys. Am I just am I just being naive because we know that it all happened. So, you know, like, why should we have, you know, have any alarm that he's singling out mentioning specifically teams that were coming after him. I think it's funny that he's singling out teams, but I mean, to me, it's like everyone's doing it, you know, does that make it good bad. I don't know, but, you know, everyone's doing it at this point. So, I can't imagine how many other nerd aim players get contacted just like Jadorian priced it. Right. And I, they may have said, you know, they probably know the legal ways to say stuff to get away with it. So is it tampering? Yeah. But like you say, it's happening everywhere and probably the multiple players on the roster. But they probably say something to the effect of what a player like you, if you were to transfer, we could offer that player this kind of a deal in third parties. I'm sure we're involved in the whole thing. But I mean, we've seen a couple of situations was that you, you an LV quarterback that they started out for no last year and they promised a money, but then he never got it. So he quit while they were ranked at the bottom of the pole and inside.

13:15Right. So this stuff's always going to be messy. So that's why I kind of ignore it in that statement. I'm taking the good out of it that he doesn't regret it and it worked out well for him. And it's a happy story because the tampering, yeah, it sucks, but it's only going to get worse probably nothing else, Jesse. Jesse shaking his head. Have you been tampered with Jesse? Double muted myself. I wish I wish I had been tampered with. Yeah, I wish you had been tampered with as well. All right, with the new fast pace of the first round of the NFL draft Bobby's favorite subject with only eight minutes on the clock per pick for NFL teams. ESPN's Mike Greenberg, who of course is one of the TV hosts of the NFL draft. He's got an idea. He wants the host to have one time out. He was on the rich eyes and show and talked a little bit about it for a few moments in the draft.

14:16That maybe demand is too strong a word, but certainly suggest that we should pause and reflect on it for a moment. It would be nice for a week if we could just say, all right, hold on, we're calling out. We get like two time. Oh, it's a broad record. So we can stop the clock. Hold it a second. Okay, just put the who was for Tennessee. Put Tennessee on pause. Yeah, just a minute. We need three minutes to talk about this. And then the same thing at 13. I like it. I like it. I Simpson just went 13 rounds. Most of it. I think we could just roll along. There were a few moments that I thought it would have been nice to have a little extra time. So how does it, by the way, great idea. How does this work, though? Like what if recent, I don't agree with your decision to stop the clock on ESPN. If you ever watched like America's got talent, sure, each of them are getting one golden buzzer. Oh, I'm going to get to put with like, you know, Simon gets one person out of the holes. So each of us gets one. So there'll be three. Yes, so Rich, you get one. You got to use it judiciously. Yes, please gets one and I get one. Whereas over the course of the night, there will be three pauses. Yes. And we need to get to choose where they go.

15:20Okay, so there's Mike Greenberg. And of course, he was the host of the NFL draft on ESPN. Reese Davis was the host of the NFL draft with the college game day crew on ABC and Rich Eisen. The host on NFL networks. That's kind of what eyes rich eyes and excuse me was alluding to it's like, well, okay, it's great for you, but we've got three different networks. So how do you control it? Well, each network basically gets to use the golden time out to stop things down. So you have the potential for three stops and three time outs in the first round of the draft because it was a lot quicker paced this year compared to previous draft. So they went from 10 minutes last year to eight minutes per pick this year, just a few years ago was still 15 minutes per pick. So what do you think about the proposal that Greenberg is throwing out there, Jess? I'm going to be honest here. I think it's a lot of whining at the end of the day. You know that there was whining that the draft takes too long. And now that we've sped it up a little bit, it's, oh, it's, it's going too quick. You know, I thought the tempo was great. And I understand it probably put a lot of pressure on the on the networks that we're covering.

16:33But, you know, I'm going to probably sound kind of rude here, but you got to adapt. You got to adapt to. Adaptor die. And so, you know, I get it. It was tough, but this was the first year for them as well. And so maybe you go back into the war room and you figure out how you can sharpen your coverage of the NFL draft here a little bit. So, you know, I didn't mind it. And so. And again, I hate, I hate to say this because we all kind of, you know, work in the same realm at the end of the day. It's not about the networks. It's about the players. It's about the draft. And it's about keeping this thing from going, you know, five hours till midnight 1 a.m. Eastern time into the morning. On a Thursday. Yeah, I got to work the next day. I want to see my team's first drum pick. Yeah, I got to work the next day and see how many Notre Dame guys go. And I want, and especially with Jadari and price going 32. That was the whole reason I stayed up because that's where I said he would go. And I felt like if he had a chance to go, that was going to be the best one. So I stayed through the whole draft.

17:40I've had that been a couple of years ago. That might have went to one in the morning. It's exactly right. It would have been a lot later. What do you think, Bobby? I hate the idea of that buzzer for everything, Jesse said. I think it's stupid. If you had like some unique coverage that was like entertaining. I mean, like more than just a talking head. Like, I don't know what it would be. There'd be a way that maybe you could make that more entertaining and have to slow it down just to keep it. Keep them involved. But if you're just talking about Greenberg Eisen and who is the third one, Reese Davis, Reese Davis, they could. If you can't tell a story in three or four minutes, you're taking too long to tell it. See, that's the thing. Like Rich Eisen said that they were like two picks behind. And I think Reese Davis said though they fell behind because the college game day, you know, the one that rich. That Reese Davis does. There are, you know, there are a lot more story oriented and all that kind of stuff. It's like, you know, I agree with what Adam Springman is saying here in the YouTube, Jesse said so the broadcasters are more important than the actual draft.

18:41No one cares what these people have to say. They aren't the real scouts. Yeah, we're 200 in to see the draft. And like how many times, especially when it was 15 minutes per pick a few years ago, it's like you're just sitting there waiting and waiting and waiting and waiting. It's like, just make the pick already. We're all waiting for the pick. That's what we want to see. The bottom line is what all these shows are. They are over bloated. All the, you know, whether it's the draft show or the pregame shows or, you know, every like we don't need six guys up there on your stage talking about these guys. I think what it says is, little this thing down, you know, whittle it down. You only need, you need a host and probably two other guys, you know, it's in terms of the analysts. You don't need five or six guys up there and even more because then you're also throwing it, you know, to the, to the stage for the interviews and stuff like that. You don't need to have five and six guys debating all this stuff in the moment. That's what get up and first take and all these other shows are for the day after we don't, we don't need you to talk on and on and on about these guys.

19:47I agree with what John says. I'm tuning in for Mel Kiper. Some people are tuning in for Daniel Jeremiah or whoever it happens to be. A couple guys, you don't need five and six and I think that was the last point I wanted to make trim the fat off, you know, you got one and you got one Mel Kiper. You got one rich Eisen and you got kind of a guy in between, you know, for each, basically what I'm saying is you have one analyst that's like Mel Kiper who studies nothing with the draft. You got rich Eisen who's the host of the show for the network and then you got probably someone in between, you know, that that's kind of a hybrid of both. And that's really the issue is they're going to have to cut down the production a little bit and not everyone's voice matters every draft pick. And then Bobby major league baseball pitchers. I think some of them still don't like the pitch clock and obviously like John Smoltz. Everyone's favorite and I'm saying that saying that sarcastically major league baseball announcer doesn't like the pitch clock. But look, again, adapter die like pitchers had to get used to the pitch clock because it's there. You might not like it, but you got to get used to it.

20:52And I think that that's what this comes down to is like the, you know, it was a first time thing and these guys have to learn to adapt to it now going forward. It's not like they woke up Thursday morning and found out the format. And I don't know why they couldn't have watched last year's draft and like had a fake clock that would tell them when to move on. Do your homework evolve, get better. You're asking them to actually prepare for this thing. Well, and then it's one thing to put together your information packets, but you've got to get used to that pace, right? With people and you only do it once a year. So I understand that it's a different type of event. But then also you're telling me that like if there was a trade or something crazy that Greenberg might call his golden buzzer time out when the jets are on the clock. I could see collusion there tampering. So it wouldn't be fair that this extra team would have. And that's true because then you're giving another team more time on the clock by doing this. Yes, or for trade or pick. Yeah, I don't. So I think all of it. I think it's just Greenberg trying to be funny, but you actually made a good point. I didn't think you were going to have a good point in this segment. And you came up with a good point. You're get by calling a time out.

21:55You're giving whatever the next team is an advantage that the unfair advantage aren't going to have. Yeah, a completely unfair advantage by giving him essentially 11 minutes to come up with the trade or whatever else. And like look how that would have impacted that whole Pittsburgh Eagles thing with you know with the trade that that went down with time winding down on the clock. I mean, April 27th and I'm done for the year. Got my one good idea for the year. Vince would have given me a bell. Jesse, what do you got for me? That's fine. I'm just glad you're not muted yet. I have to always check myself because you know with these dogs back here, it's just you got to be quick on the mute button. And sometimes after Bobby, you know, rambles on I forget that that is still muted. I think they're there, you know, it might be time for a, you know, like a green room for the dogs when the show starts. Maybe it's maybe it's time.

22:56Speaking of, you know, they visited this weekend. Did you enjoy your time with Henry and Scooby this weekend? I did. I never enjoyed as much as your mother and sister do. At least you got to work for a little of it. Right. You're smiling about something. Jesse, what's going on over there? Just was texting one of my buddies through the break, you know, this is prime time MLB roster lineups are becoming final MBA hoops injury reports are coming final. You know, we are scheming get a little scheming done for my bets this evening. Oh, okay. Not betting on hockey then. No, I don't know enough about hockey. The NFL draft is we've been talking about came and went this weekend. The NFL already had things, of course, like the combine free agency to occupy time and oxygen. This off season, my question to you guys, let me, I'll just start with you on this one, Bob, because we don't always start with you.

23:59Even though you bring your shiny, smiley, happy people face in here every Monday. What's the best off season topic college football has to talk about? I mean, every year, I think it's about if Notre Dame's going to win the championship or not. You're not even a Notre Dame fan. That's true. There are my top two or three, but I think it's right now, I think in the off season, it's always kind, like my friends and I will just sit around and talk about how many teams should be in the playoff or what the bracket should look like next year moving ahead. How do you get the guaranteed teams in? So I think that's the best thing college football has to talk about in the off season because you can spend hours talking about it. There's no right or wrong answer, but it doesn't occupy hour after hour, like the draft does or like the combine does and every, you know, and free everything leading up to the draft. Like there are these just big chunks of content that, you know, like the NFL gives us in this continual cycle from February through we're all, you know, we're almost at the end of April now.

25:07The last week of April and then we're going to have a big schedule or at least coming up here in a little bit. It's going to give us at least a little bit more time. What do you think, Jess? I think this is a really hard question and to be honest with you, I don't know what college football has in the off season that really is anything but speculation at the end of the day. It sucks because it's just the dog days of football, you know, like that's when I kind of submersed myself in being nothing but a cubs fan because I don't have anything football to get me, you know, fired up and enthused and, you know, I know it's not everyone's cup of tea, but the NBA playoffs. We're getting towards the finals and that sort of stuff. So for me, it's just kind of like, all right, one spring ball stops and then basically until, you know, fall camps starts. I'm completely tunnel vision on on my Chicago Cubs, but, you know, if you had to pick something, I think it's everyone's favorite kind of topic when the season's not going is who's the next big guy that we're going to get who's who's going to commit who's going to sign.

26:24So it's going to be the five you're on here in the chat. You say it's recruiting basically. I think so at the end of the day because, you know, I was going to get you so far, you know, because again, it's not like unbridled free agency. You know, like there's only so much and it's the recruiting is only so good as when the next guy is going to commit how big a recruit he is and that kind of stuff. But again, it only goes so far, I think. I guess if you're talking about events, the spring game, especially living in South Bend is probably the best one. So you see players on the field. It's cool to be in the stadium. Reminds you that, you know, football still exists other than that. Honestly, for me, the next big college football thing is just about what the video game this year is going to be and what the release on that is on the for PlayStation. SCI agree. I think it is spring football, you know, not even necessarily specifically the spring game. I think for, you know, like power for like bigger power for programs were, you know, obviously Notre Dame being one of them, like, you know, pretty much any any of the top 15 or 20 teams. I think that spring football is it because, you know, like think about all the the topics and content that we've had around spring football leading up to the blue gold game and now coming out.

27:42We're talking more blue gold game and we'll have a little bit more this week, you know, some little double doubles of stuff coming out of the spring. It feels like that's it. It feels like that's the biggest offseason thing that you've got and then sporadically you've got some of the recruiting topics. I think that come with it in the offseason as well. I guess the draft is almost kind of like graduation because that's almost an NFL event to me more than it is college. Yeah, because you're looking back on the college players. Obviously, but all of the talk isn't what they've done. It's what they're going to do. How they're going to fit in. So I don't even think that one should be on I think spring football is the right answer. Yeah, I got one more draft topic. Oh boy Brian Curtis from the ringer had an interesting draft coverage idea. Would you want to see something on the screen during the draft that shows the odds that the guy being picked will actually be on that team that's drafting him in four years.

28:46You know, so in other words, here's the number 31 pick of the first round. And on the screen, here are the odds that this guy will actually be with his team four years from now. Would you want to see something like that? To be honest, no, I guess I'm not too sure where the question is stemming from, but it just kind of sounds random to me at the end of the day. And most guys basically is it saying like, will they get the second contract once the rookie contract is up. What are the odds that they're going to be retained for, you know, whoever's team. I just, I don't know, I just feel like that that's not really something noteworthy and something that would be intriguing at the end of the day for for someone like myself. See, I agree with you. I don't know. I kind of rude, I guess, too, is where I'm at. Like, it's just like, it feels kind of insulting at the day. It's like, oh, do we think this guy's actually going to be pretty good?

29:47I guess I don't know if it's more about the player themselves or if it's about the team that's drafting them. Right. So I guess that's kind of my thing, too. It's a guess. Why do I care? Because in four years, I'm not going to remember that the analysts had odds of this that this guy would less. Kind of fun. Like, when you talk about the draft, we're almost all talking about day one, hardly anyone's watching the seventh round of the draft. So in the seventh round, how many were going to be on the same team in four years? None of them. So I think it'd be better. I don't want like, how about the last four years, what this team has done or this specific spot of the draft, what have they done or how long have they lasted? Give me the trends from that pick, not necessarily this exact pick for this guy moving forward. Well, no, it's not, that's, that's, you just said what it's about. It's, yeah, like here are the averages that you make this specific. Obviously, how are you going to know how long this specific guy is going to last? It's about, okay, here's pick 31.

30:51Here, here's what the last pick number 31. Here's what the numbers say, pick number 31 or any pick is going to do. To me, it's a little bit like two pragmatic because like, as fans, we're watching the draft because we have hope for what this guy is going to be. We don't want to know that there's a 31% chance or a 45% chance that this guy's actually going to still be around in five years. We want to have the hope that by our team drafting this guy, he's definitely going to be there, you know, four years from now or eight years from now or however long it's going to be. It's going to be, it kind of kills the joy of the pick by having that kind of data, you know, like everything is about analytics these days. I feel like it kind of kills the joy of the pick by having that kind of information on the spring. I agree with what you're saying. It ultimately kills the optimism of the first round. The whole point of the first round is to rebuild. You want to see that guy and you're so excited about, you know, what the potential that they can add to the team.

31:51And, you know, like if you're a Browns fan, that's the last thing that you want to see. Because they all are going to end up not being good unless your miles get it. That's really funny. I was just thinking of the Browns as you talking to them. You said them. Yeah, it depends on the team, the roster. I don't, the odds thing doesn't really add anything to the coverage for me. And plus, like you said, they're already not able to keep up with each pick as it's going. Why would you add another layer of something for them to talk about that would make them fall back behind to give Greenberg his golden I'm out buzzer. Well, again, this would just be on the screen. This would not be the, you know, them talking about this would just be like ESPN's analytics people saying. Here's the percent chance that this guy is is still around. For me, no, still I think we're unanimous. We're all a no on this. I like it better on the UFL games when they told show like draft King odds on the next play like live before it happens. That's more fun because it's live. It's dynamic. It's happening. But for a draft. No, I'm a big cell.

32:56Well, you took us right into the next topic with that one, Bobby fill in the blank. It's blank that Texas Tech quarterback Brendan Soresby is taking leave of absence from the program for a gambling addiction. I think it's absolutely hilarious. I think this and I guess I should add some follow up context because, you know, that's the point of the show and my role here. There further information came out. I don't know if you saw this. But what he does is he goes to a large amount of reds games. He sits at the games and he bets baller strike every single pitch. Wow. He bets either a dollar to $2.50 on every pitch. So basically, he probably walks in with 200 bucks, puts loads up it up in his account and bets on every single pitch. Because I imagine, you know, that's that's that's probably at least three four hundred pitches.

33:58And if you're betting a dollar per pitch, you know, that that's that's kind of the math behind it. And so, you know, when I sent it to some of my buddies, I said, he's one of us, you know, at the end of the day, he's one of us. And so I think it's really funny, especially learning his kind of means and methods. Well, and I think it's weird. If I didn't know the reds part, but of course, there's going to be a gambling controversy. You got to have the Cincinnati Reds involved somehow. That's what I hate this because it's in Ohio. And there's already, it's not said about anything betting in Ohio. Yeah, I mean, and that's where the scandal was a few years back with one of those coaches was was based out of in the Guardian's pictures that got caught up in the first pitch. I think it's no wonder all the Ohio lawmakers want to get rid of sports racer. It's taking a look at across every sport too. Now, I think it's transparent. At least he said he has a problem. I think you say that right before you get in trouble, right? It's like, well, he's working on it. He's aware, you know, it was going to happen.

35:03But it's funny because like even the other day I was at a Cubs game. I was looking and you can bet on pitch speed even for every pitch. And the result you can bet on exit V low now. Oh my God. That just seems like a lot of ways to lose money. Yeah. And that's I mean, if he's betting every pitch balls and strikes that like that that feels like even if it's just a dollar. Like that just feels like the definition of someone who's addicted to it, you know, like that's like you're saying that it's that it's hilarious. I think it crosses a line of hilarious, you know, like the I didn't realize it was that. But according to some stuff that I that I read today, you know, he started his career at Indiana before he transferred to Cincinnati. And when he was at Indiana, he redshirted as a true freshman four years ago. And he was betting on games that season. He was betting on Indiana games that season while he was on the team.

36:05So that's where the lines crossed, obviously, because I don't know. That's been built upon. It's not just a one time thing. And that's why I think that there's, you know, the admission of the addiction, like because it started at that point. And now it's got to the point where he's betting on balls and strikes. Sorry, Bobby. No, we're saying the same thing. It's I just don't know how you can take it and be like, well, OK, if you're not playing baseball, you can gamble on baseball. And especially if there's a history of betting on your own team, that's that almost as a suspension. Like I don't think when somebody gets caught doing it, they should be able to play again. But if that same kid takes $300 to a casino, that's not a problem. But the fact that the sports are involved is where the problem lies. So you got to get help for it because you just can't do it. I don't know. He's got a decent spot. I'm sure he's making enough money. He doesn't, he just needs the rush, I guess. I don't know. Well, he was, but I like this. There's, it's pretty uncertain now in terms of whether or not he's ever going to be able to play for Texas Tech.

37:06Now, because of the fact like if they, if they find out, you know, again, this is just reporting that he bet on Indiana back in 2022. But the NCAA has a policy against any type of gambling by athletes on what they say, you know, intercollegiate amateur or professional athletic competition. And apparently, you know, he is, he is basically bet on all of those now at this point. So I don't know how he has a future left in college football. If that's the case, if they find him to be, you know, guilty of any of the, you know, if these, if any of these things end up being true. If you're a college athlete, you're not supposed to be betting on anything. And I, and like they almost pass that thing. Remember, like just this past fall that was going to allow college athletes, as long as you weren't betting on, you know, like college stuff, you were, you were going to be able to and like it feels like this is a prime example of why the NCAA doesn't want anyone who's playing sports betting on anything because it ends up, you know, it might just be a 1% thing.

38:09But you can have like you can become a major issue for any of these guys for anyone. Yeah, that's a slippery slope for sure. But I mean, you're telling me that no college football players put money in a March madness pool for the tournament. It's, it's just really, really hard to get ahead of and make rules that actually stick are consistent. No. I feel like, I feel like Bobby's on vacation today sometimes sometimes I wish I was. I'm just saying they make a lot of money on gambling. So how can you limit and take the college kids away from being able to do it if it's not even their sport. Well, there's a role in place that says they can't. That's how it's not. I don't agree with the rule either, Bobby, as long as you're not betting on basically insider trading, I think that they're like, I could say here's where I was going to line. I don't, if you play whatever sport college baseball MLB NFL, just don't bet on your league, but I don't think there's anything wrong with the college football player betting on NBA games.

39:20And that's where I would draw the line. I just think it's too slippery a slope because, you know, especially with all the money that these guys are making now, you know, you can say, well, they should be able to do what they want with their money. But if they have that money and they become addicted like this, they can also lose all that money very quickly. And even if you start off by betting on another sport, it can lead to you betting on your own sport in your own team. Because now you're trying to make up that money. And you know, once you start losing a little bit of money. And it's like, well, here's a sure thing. I know about this. So I'm just going to, you know, put some money on my own team. I'm only going to bet on my team to win, but you're chasing money in that in that case. And that's why I don't, I don't think that any of them should be allowed to do it. So you're saying them basically we've made the movie blue chips come to life. There you go. Joe Allen going back to Mr. Henry in Jesse's background, barking there.

40:24Joseph's bark collars. That's all they have to say. Have you ever thought about a bark collar, Jesse? Um, they don't work on our dogs are our dogs. First of all, their necks are so small. And the bark collar has to be latched on real tight. It's just it, it can't, it can't stay securely fast into the point where the shot does anything to them. They'll just keep barking either the either either they're just immune to shocking or it doesn't stay on tight enough because we've tried them before and they continue to bark bark and bark. I was watching an episode of the pit and this guy apparently, he bought a shot collar for his dog and I don't, I think it was like his girlfriend didn't like it. So she super glued it to the guy's neck and every time he raised his voice, it would shock him. And so they were trying to figure out how to get the bark collar off this guy's neck because of super clue to his neck.

41:28I bet you wish you had a shot collar when I'm talking half the time, don't you? Yes, we do. I quit it. Final topic tonight. Notre Dame men's basketball got both a transfer portal player as well as a high school commitment over the weekend. Jacob Burrow is the incoming freshman for the upcoming 2026 class. So this is obviously a very late commitment. Rice dorsch, arise from Rutgers. You feel blank about how the Irish men's roster is now taking shape. I still think that that's any player for them's good. I'm glad they're rounding out the roster. I wish it's nice to get a fresh mix. Now they have a guy with multiple years that they can use. At least they're not getting guys that have like no pedigree. They got the guy from Winthrop that was the big South player of the year. It seems like they at least that the roster is filling roles that they need for the roster, like a shooter, a defender from Gonzaga, but I don't see any optimism of how that's going to transfer to ACC success.

42:36Yeah, I mean, you know, I guess kind of where I'm at is, you know, any good news is positive for Notre Dame men's basketball right now. Yeah, like any positive news is like is good news in terms of guys being added to the team or recruits committing to the team because I mean the roster is going to be a complete turnover again next season. So, you know, I want to get up here and say, oh, you know, like they should be aiming better than a Rutgers transfer because like Bobby is saying is what kind of impact is that really going to have in a conference like the ACC. I don't know, but I feel like that's a little bit harsh and unfair for me at the end of the day to say that sort of statement because really what what is Notre Dame men's basketball been in the last. However long five seven years to say that they deserve you know better players so for me it's like at least we're getting the news of it's no longer this guy's leaving and this guy's leaving and this guy's leaving and you know Burton's going to I you and and Serta is going here and and Harlison is going to Tennessee at least we're seeing a little bit of the more fun side of things where players are deciding to come to Notre Dame.

44:00Yeah they're bringing them in and you know look getting a high school player this late it's not like he's going to be a four star guy but you know he's a guy who averaged over 20 points a game in high school will see what he does for the roster they you know they continue to fill some specific needs you know I've talked about at less athleticism at least the guy from Rutgers looks like he's got some of that even though as I said whatever power for guys that they ended up adding we're probably going to be about a three and a half point per game score. And that's that's kind of what they get with George but I mean they're they're filling it out Tom noise says there's there's a chance they might add one more guy as well so you know we'll see we'll see what it looks like at least it's going in the right direction like you said at least they're not leaving and they're adding them right now. Alright probably appreciate you coming in as always Jesse thanks for stepping in for Vince today we'll be back tomorrow glad to have you with us and we will see you then Budweiser's Weekday Sportsbeat with Irish Breakdown.com.

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