Radio Show Hour 2 – 2026/03/14

0:00You're listening to the Liberty News Radio Network, and this is the Political Cesspool. The Political Cesspool, known across the South and Worldwide, adds to the South's foremost Populous Conservative Radio Program, and here to guide you through the murky waters of the Political Cesspool, is your host, James Edwards. Welcome back everybody, our march around the world, and what a march it's been so far. We're in the second hour of the second week of this year's installment, last week, England, Australia, Mexico, Canada, tonight, first hour. We're in the far reaches of Eastern Europe and Estonia, with Ruben Caleb, we are back tracking now to a more centralized part of Europe, Croatia, with Dr. Tomislav

1:00Sunnich, the retired diplomat, professor, political savant, an all-around man-about town. That is exactly right. Now Tom is one of our regulars, and he is back with us tonight, once again, to join our annual World Showcase to bring us the latest news from the Balkans, but we are certainly going to get into Iran a little bit more this hour, and so much more, but first let's say hello, Tom. Hello, and how are things in Zagreb tonight? Well, thank you, thank you for your call, James. I am awake, and well, often I am already for your question, and how do I feel? I feel very well, except for the early, early, early late, it's one I am in the morning, you know, how a local time here, so I'm staying up. Anyway. Well, I'll tell you, and I say this, I mean, the audience is probably thinking I've got it on repeat, but I want to be sure to tell everybody who appears on this show in March, that I appreciate them staying up so late.

2:01I say it every week, the audience hears it all the time, but the individual guest only hears it once, and so for Rubin Caleb, and it's 2 a.m. in Estonia now, we're going back now to Tom and Croatia, where it's still 1 a.m., but still late. That's for sure Keith, what are you going to be doing at 1 a.m. tonight? Hopefully sleeping. But not Tom and not Rubin, and not anybody who appears on this show this month. So Tom, we do appreciate it. We've got so much to get into tonight with you this hour. Let's get started. And just, well, first just give us the pulse of Croatia this year. We always like to check in on these distant ports of call to see how our people are faring. How are things going for Whites and Croatia? There's still one of the whitest nations of Europe, and certainly one of the last nations to fight with the good guys. Go ahead. You go ahead. I'm glad it's not because this is an ethnic white town clay here, so I would certainly encourage all our friends, you know, all white friends from the south, especially because

3:02you know, I like Southerners very much. Do come over, at least do some scouting and check it around, and if I can give any assistance whatsoever in terms of relocating, I'll be happy. It'll help you out. You know, there are quite a few, you know, quite a few of Americans, quite a few of Croatian Americans. Of course, you know, a large day aspera, Croatian aspera in the state, so that people are now moving quite a few of them. I'm moving back to Croatia and settling down here, so I would encourage you again, folks, if I can give any assistance, I'm more than happy to help you. One interesting development, which may be of interest for your listeners is James. Let me tell you what happened the other day. The other day, the Israeli ambassador to Croatia was summoned by the president of Croatia Milanovic to his office, and he was given up dressing down the trail for his earlier remarks about Croatia, harboring quote-unquote, the Israeli terrorist and the Israeli, the Iranian

4:06terrorist in the Iranian embassy, let me just avoid confusions. The Iranian embassy, apparently, according to the Iranian sources, he's in, according to the Israeli sources, he's in, I'm always confusing those two words, I'm sorry about this. So, anyway, there was a diplomatic scandal, and the next day, of course, the Croatian president Milanovic, he gave a dressing down to the Israeli ambassador, he told him, you cannot behave like this, you know, and then publicly he stated, we don't want to have quote, germs and vermin, you know, you know, you know, in Croatia, you know, he was a very graphic language, very slang, I know this guy, I mean, I worked with him a long time ago in the back when I was a diplomat, you know, he is a left-leaning fellow, let me tell you the Milanovic, and please, to keep in mind, we have a sort of a cootier government, you know, on the one hand, you have a president of Croatia, it's got a Milanovic, it's very sturdy guy, well spoken, by the way, and on the other hand, on the other hand, you have

5:08Plankovic, who is a minister, a prime minister, and he is very much, you know, how can I say, he's very much in line with the European Union, he doubles down on his European sort of causing up to Ursula von Ryan and so on and so forth. So anyway, what happened yesterday is the Israeli government accused, but is it a Milanovic up, you know, the standard stuff, the usual stuff, of using, quote, the anti-Semitic rhetoric and of not behaving probably inappropriate fashions, so basically, you know, I don't want to say that the diplomatic relations have been broken, but by large there was a big stir, there was a big rupture, so to speak, in the communication, and now you have millions of millions of what you call it as memes and comments on social media, so please do check it, just check the Google on your Google president Milanovic and Israel and the Israeli ambassador

6:14to Croatia. So anyway, this is the latest news now in Croatia, which is quite significant, because the second gives you the idea of how Europe, bar large reacts to this mess, if I can put it that way, in the Gulf and in the Middle East. Well, what you've got, Tom, is this, you've got Milanovic being taken to task by the Israelis for behaving like the Israelis do, they don't want strangers in their midst, but of course, they get to do it, no one else, including the Croatians get to do what they do. Absolutely. Well listen, all European leaders must have their, excuse my words, their share of ground nosing, you know, you don't want to, you can talk about absolutely everything, whatever you like, but you don't want to make negative statements about Israel, that's one thing and this is like the, like the gospel, okay, and you understand it, yeah, it's interesting

7:18with Croatia, because I don't know how many years we've been doing this march around the world series, it doesn't go back to the very founding of the show, but we've been doing it for several years now and Tom, you have always been a mainstay on this, I think you've appeared in every single installment we've done, whether it's been five or six years have, however long it's been, and remembering that, I recall you having told me before about, first of all, the Croatia being one of the most white nations of Europe, but also that not only did they fight on the German side of World War II, they fought, they continued to fight about beyond the Germans, what the Germans did, and so, you know, do you think that in any way still has a lingering effect on the thinking here? Okay, look, I don't want to, you know, the Croatia is just like most Eastern European nations and for that amount of European nations, they like to brag about that national consciousness, their cultural memory and what have you, but again, there's always a backlash, there's

8:19always the bad side on it, there's a disadvantage, if I, how can I put it better in? Because unfortunately as I keep saying over and over again, you know, the Croatia's worst enemies under quotation marks says, are the neighboring states, are serbs, are for that matter, you know, the Bosnia honestly, so on, so you have to put things in perspective just as much as I certainly admire the fact that Croatia is proud of their medieval culture and what have you, but at the same time, they have this, what I call it, this negative legitimacy, negative identity by trying to read the event and trying to, how can I say, create a generator identity by demonizing the other European nation, and this is unfortunate typical for all, all European nations. You look at the Flemish, Flemish and the Walloons, you look at the Poles, you look at the Germans, it's constantly have this thread of those, of those very important, but they all have a much bigger enemy than, you know, the neighboring

9:25nation. Even on the official level, if I can just sum it up a little bit, even in the European union, the European union, it's just a joke, you know, let me put it that bluntly, you know, I'm now retired, so I can say it's a thing that I've been talking about, but the fact that the letter is, it's a joke, it's just a money machine, you know, people's playing lots of lots of money, you know, we are talking about 40,000, 40,000 people, you know, directly, I mean, directly being involved in this money machine, okay, so I don't, I don't think they can do anything, and that's, you know, if I could just back, back pedal a little bit and make a digression, that's why I'm fully in agreement, at least I wasn't fully in agreement with President Trump, you know, it was quite critical of the European union, it was quite critical of their known decision making, and he deserves, or rather he deserved credit for, for his stand, stand on the European Union bureaucracy. Now, as far as the Middle East and crisis is concerned, we can continue about that, and of course, I'm not happy with what's going on now, and I'm

10:28not happy at all with his decision about bombing Guy Ran, you know, whatever I can think about. But then on the other hand, Tom, Tom, we need to question whether or not that's his decision on that in the office. Well, we know that it was that in Yahoo's, but nevertheless, Trump's still signed off on it, and that the buck stops here, right? Well, listen, we're going to get into all of that, and the rock and roll, and I'll tell you, and Tom, and also, like our first hour guest, Rubin Caleb of Participated in this, hey y'all, do you enjoy great tasting coffee but are tired of supporting companies that hate you? If so, let me tell you about above-time coffee. Above-time coffee is a privately owned and operated small business. They hand-rosed coffee and shimp into customers throughout the United States, and abroad. Above-time coffee was launched, because they saw a need for more pro-white businesses serving our people. The time has come to take our own side, and did I mention their coffee tastes great? It's the best coffee I've ever

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12:31As you are aware, America is divided over every fault line possible. This is intentionally fostered by those who do not love God, family, or country. We believe a peaceful future as a free people absolutely depends on civility. Clarion Call for civility is looking for funding and volunteers at every level to make our hopes and efforts a reality. Please donate, sign our pledge, and help us in our sacred cause. Please visit callforcivility.com for more details. Callforcivility.com. Welcome back everybody. When we called this our march around the world, we mean it. England, Australia, Mexico, Canada, Estonia, and now Croatia so far, and we're only in what the 5th hour of this month for our broadcasting schedule. We are making haste and putting on those frequent flyer miles. I always love having Tom Sunich on. Tom is a mainstay on this program.

13:39Not just in this special series that we've been doing for a few years, but going back all the way to the beginning. I remember picking strawberries with Tom and Memphis back in 2008 and we went over to a Council of Conservative Citizens Conference in Alabama together. We drove together. Tom has just always been there. Tom, I think I got a picture of Tom holding my daughter who turned 16 next week when she was a newborn. No, I can't. And I've got two Christmas ornaments on my tree every year that you and your wife set us. I mean, you know, there really is a familial thing here when we call our friends and our listeners and our guest family. We mean it and I certainly mean it with you. You go back to the very beginning. I really respect and admire you my friend. Well, thank you. Well, listen, I'm not ruling out relocating and going back to the states, whatever happens because we want to come to Croatia and we'll train. We can be places because, you know, I like southern areas, you know, for a variety of reasons, I've written about that,

14:41I've given speeches and I was putting a good word for you, you know, wherever I go to. I appreciate that. We need it. We certainly need it. You know, you know, where I'm coming from, I'm the very fact that the United States is turning more and more into a third world country. I'll tell you quite openly and I just, I don't feel comfortable over there. Certainly more so than it is. You wondered whether you're into book tour, whether you're someplace in Africa, you know, it's just no longer white. Well, you know, you know, of course, the United States is so expansive from sea to shining sea. It depends on where. But certainly there are a lot of places in the United States that look a lot more like Paris and, you know, London, then do Zagreb or Taiwan. 60% white in America and it's typically 80% or more white in European nations. Well, in Memphis, it's, you know, majority black, but you can go to some places in America and it's, you know, virtually 100% white. I mean, it is, it is a vast expanse. But I want to talk to you about

15:43this very quickly, Tom, what you were talking about before. And that is, you know, we were talking about this with Ruben Caleb in the first hour. The distinctions between Estonians and Russia, the Russians, the distinctions between Walloons and the Flemish, our friends, Philip DeWinner, and Ankhavana Mersh there in Belgium and the Poles and the Germans. How do we reconcile the national distinctions versus the, we are true outsiders. Still one people when it comes to the true outsiders as Keith puts it. It can that be done. It's a trick that Europeans haven't learned to make yet. And jump that chart. I'm very pessimistic about this. I'll tell you quite frankly. I don't want to, you know, live in those self denial on it. This is very typical for many Christian nationalists in the world. And even in some German nationalists, I'll be a guest. In fact, I got to speak and engage in

16:46Germany and into German language, by the way. And I feel pretty much at home there as well. But there is always this, this, what you call it, this, an undercurrent. What's the best word? This deep resentment against the first-door neighbors. And then they, of course, they're coming up with their own and a horror story from the Second World War. It's just a theme that always keep popping up over and over again. A little long that you can feel daily here between Serbs and Croats, two neighboring nations. So again, I don't want to sound too pessimistic, but the fact of the matter is I don't know what major shock we need here in Europe to really stay united. So please do not idealize too much. Don't romanticize the European quote, quote, quote, unquote cause too much, you know, so I guess I would advise you. You have $8.33 since remaining. Please enter the telephone now. All right. So not exactly sure what happened there, but let's use, I use that other,

17:52other number that we gave at the beginning of the, all right, we'll get Tom soon to show back. Let me, in fact, as a matter of fact, let me text him. So he knows what's going on. Keith, live radio is always, why don't you hold the fort here and continue what, continue to expound upon the point that Tom was making? Well, the point he's making is that it seems like most Europeans would rather fight and squabble with their next-door neighbor nation and turn a blind eye to all of these racial strangers, these Muslims and Africans and others that are finding their way to their shores and are taking them over. Basically, I think every European needs to read Camp of the Saints by genre of spawn. Well, I mean, this is it, Keith, as we're talking here while our producer reconnects with Tom and Croatia, Europeans have always loved to fight each other. I mean, this goes back. Well, I mean, look, yeah, I mean, North and South, certainly, you know, when you

18:56think about it in contemporary terms in you, Ukrainians, well, that's very contemporary. But, you know, going back a little bit further than that, World War, World Wars 1 and 2. But before that, the French and English, the English and the Scots, I mean, what in the hell's our problem? The Franco-Prussian War. Big time, big time problem. Now, yes, the Indians did it too. The Feather Indians did it too. The Blacks do it. I mean, they all enslave and rape and genocide each other. But we want to be better than that, right? You know, we certainly want to be better than that, and not the same as them. Yet, here we are. Tom, apologies for that. Continue on with your thoughts. Sure, you hung up on me. I don't know what happened in it, but anyway, actually, it was Keith, and that's why he did that, he did that, he did that, he did the hell out of it. No, it wasn't, it wasn't. James, James is credit card right now. Can you hear me well now? We hear you fine. Keep your out of here, son. You're done. Oh, I knew it was your great card. It won mine. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, that's why we need some contributions for that.

19:58Keep going, keep going, keep going, Tom. Sure. Well, anyway, look, I told you, I don't want to sound too tragic or too pessimistic, but the fact of the matter is, regardless of what's going on now with this massive flows of migrations that we're talking about, millions of millions of people, and the whole ethnic profile of Western Europe has changed dramatically. I mean, if you go any place, you know, in Western Europe, you know, that's the reason even when I get invitations from my friends from Frankfurt or for that matter, even from UK, or so, I just, I feel uncomfortable. I just come, you know, in the wild, you can hear wild, I don't feel at home at all, you know, because change dramatically. But other than that, keeping mine is always this undercurrent of different, you know, diverse resentments, those historical memories, playing a certain role in antagonizing, in mutual antagonization of nations and then people's living here under vicinity. And I, you know, I'm sort of a, I'm not a preacher of a pan-European

21:01ism. It has a different connotation here in Europe, but I certainly would like people to stress more their, their, their roots, their ethnic roots, and of course, if we get there, their stories, and which sometimes don't make much sense in the first place. I don't know if that makes me a ton, but what you need to do, what you need to do is make genre spalls, camp of the saints, required reading for every European, that needs to be taught. Well, that goes for Americans too, I mean, you know, us too, but that, that, that's, that's for sure. But, a little American problem with Christian Zion is that it blamed them most, you know, I don't blame so much. I'll tell you quite frankly, I don't want to, I'm not a spokesman of President Trump, but I still have a pretty good opinion of this gentleman. But the fact of the matter is, it's been really, you know, it's been trapped. He's been, I don't know what happened, but I don't blame him. Well, the team's controlled Russia in the 19th century. I mean, in the 20th century, and it looks like they're bound to, to, to control America in the 21st century.

22:06And when I look behind this wall, I don't know if I can even say about it. I mean, Netanyahu, yes, but at the same time, Trump has a sound, we, we cannot absolve him of that responsibility. So he, the buck stops here. And it's a terrible thing. Although like Tom, I understand that this is a horrible situation. It is a huge issue, but it is not the only issue. And I appreciate Tom with what Tom was saying a second ago, you still have to put all the issues on a balance and ask yourself, are you better off with Trump or Abigail Spanberger, governor of Virginia, you know, people like that running your country. That's not to resolve him. This Iranian thing is an F minus. It's terrible. Nobody's giving him any quarter for that. But Tom, I appreciate you as a seasoned diplomat and politician and spokesman for our people, being able to see the widescreen vision here. Absolutely. Again, I'm, you know, if you ask me about this, I really took them by surprise. I was

23:12not just disappointed. I was shocked, you know, when this whole thing happened. Keep in mind, you know, what happened just a day before this bombing started, you know, I think that Tucker Carson was in his office. He was trying to dissuade him from, that's what I've heard, you know, I don't know whether whether this is true or not. And some other good guys that I've certainly respected, Tucker Carson, of course, you know, what we said, a high opinion of him. And of course, some other gentlemen, including that lady from Georgia, and I am afraid for all movements. Marjorie Taylor, but that don't compare with Ben's been Nanyahu. Nobody has a power that Nanyahu has and see Trump knows, like most people, he'd rather live rather than die. And you, if you buck, what we call the Eskimos over here, that's how you want it. That's what happened to Charlie Kirk. That's what happened to John F. Kennedy. And that's what happened to Soleimani and I told him. That's not it. You know, the truth is no excuse. Death is

24:13no excuse. You know, I, I say, and we've all put it on the line here. But I mean, no, I mean, if you're, if you're willing to be president of the United States, you have to be willing to die. And you have to be willing to die. I mean, seriously, you have, I mean, if you're going to put yourself out to that level, you have to understand that there are some, well, I haven't seen that in the oath of office, but maybe there are threats attendant to having that, anyway, level of power. You got to take a quick break. We'll be back with Tom Shortch. We always talk about the riffs on the right. Some people actually seem to enjoy it. What about the riffs on the left? He'll tell us about it. I'm back. Good point. News is hour from Count Hall. I'm Mary Rose. Iran is urging people to evacuate major ports in the UAE as it's war with the US and Israel enters a third week. Iran has warned people to evacuate three major ports in the United Arab Emirates, including the busiest in the Middle East

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30:33and we'll be down there in the third hour, so stay tuned for that. And still, we're not even quite halfway through our march around the world, still two weeks to come. Before we get into confederate history month in April, a lot of special programming coming up in the next few weeks here in TPC, but I gotta say, before we toss it back to Tom, that it's not like this, folks, that remind me why we do what we do. I don't think there's ever been one time in the last 22 years where I left the studio saying, you know, we really laid an egg tonight. That was just not a good show. I've never said that, but there are some shows where you just feel like this is exactly why people support us and why we do this. And, you know, I felt it last week with Nick Griffin. I feel it tonight with Ruben and with Tom. And this is it. I mean, this is the show. This is TPC. And Tom, let's get back to what we were talking about right before the break, that little teaser. You've noticed a rift on the left. I mean, so often,

31:37people in our circles talk about the infighting on the ride, and certainly that's a problem. But you asked the question, why are Jewish academics in the European Union, and even the SPLC and ADL, et cetera, more conciliatory now to write wingers? Are they more afraid of their leftist antifra progeny now, who they broke long ago? Frankenstein's monster. Oh, I guess we can call it the negative dialectics. If I can put it somewhat in the Marxian lingo, you know, like once upon a time, keep in mind, Frankfurt School and even prior to that, Jewish intellectuals from Europe, from Paris, from Berlin and so on. In a way, they birthed it. They gave birth to those different leftist movements and different anti-fascist movements all over Europe, especially in academia and in higher learning. And what happened over the last couple of years is that the left that

32:37more or less that Jews had created in the first place is now turning against Israel. So I'll see another paradox, which is a logical paradox, by the way. Those who are quite to vocal, and actually the most vocal opponents of Israel, and those who are the most vocal supporters of Palestinians who are waving those Palestinian flags and so on, are the leftist. You don't see right wingers at all, which makes sense because keep in mind, again, as far as the psychology of right wingers, even educated right wingers here in Europe is concerned or for that matter in the United States is that we still suffer from this stigma, from this mortgage, how can I solve the second world war, or the stigma, or the shut up word of anti-Semitism. And it's the reason that left bar and large, especially on campuses from Berkeley all the way down to Colombia. Much more, how can I put it, they have more of a leeway. They can say certain things that I

33:40wouldn't say, because I would automatically get a label of a being an anti-Semite from the SPLC and ADL. Now, as far as the ADL and SPLC is concerned, including the Christian friends and the different Amadelles-Stiftung, the leftist-Stiftung, which is fairly financed by the by the German government. Of course, they are becoming a little bit more conciliatory to the right wingers precisely because they now feel more of a threat coming from the left. So even the Jewish identity, if I can put it somewhat bluntly, because I don't have time to explain it all in an academic language. But the fact of the matter is that they've introduced identities now, there's been threatened by the very same poe folks that they once created, even the mass migration, even this phenomenon of multiculturalism. Who are the loudest spokesmen of multiculturalism? Well, look at the American Civil Rights Act in the early 60s. So for that matter, look what at Merkel, look at what's going on in Europe over the last 60 or 60, 70 years. The loudest

34:44spokesmen were basically academics of Jewish extraction. And now it's time's monster has turned on Dr. Frankenstein. He absolutely. That's the paradox of history. Well, look at even if I, I don't know if I, if you have time, at one more minute, I got to explain it. Even if you look at the Bolsheviks, and of course there was a large segment of Jews, from Russian Jews, who are the proponents of Bolsheviks. In fact, in the government in the early 1970s, 1920s, there was quite a few of them as a matter of fact. But by and large, they suffered Jews tremendously from the very same ideas that they once created. That's the paradox of all history. So, you know, there is a nice saying in English, don't ask them, don't claim for something that it can, it will come to my mind. Be careful what you wish for, what you're doing. Be careful what you should. In fact, you know where it comes from. I got to always quote him, I give a speech in French and in Juvenile. Juvenile is a great Roman author. He actually

35:47talked about this phenomenon. Don't ask for something that he can hurt you. It's a backlash, it's just going on. And you have precisely the same situation now happening all over Eastern Europe as well. And I guess I just, I don't, in fact, I understand what's going on. I presume I understand very well what's going on through the mind of many Jewish intellectuals in Israel as well, because now, of course, they have to cope with the fact that they're their brain children. Their brain child is now turning against them, you know. It's called negative dialectics. Let's put it in a somewhat academic way, a link of whatever that means. And it can have some very, very bad consequences for the Jewish identity for that matter, even in the state. I don't know if you follow the news. If you read, I read quite often, you know, that what the SPLC and ADL, you know, comments and I read the Israeli newspapers as well. And I notice a certain amount of, I don't want to say paranoia, about a certain amount of tension,

36:48a certain amount of self denial as well. And I don't know, I don't know which side it would take. You know, there's some great Jewish authors, we both respect very much, you know, like Ron Ernst who is an excellent piece. And then he took Shamir as well in the Finkrstein. I mean, certainly admire those folks who are having the guts, who are having the balls of saying certain things, which are the folks, which are the Aryans folks, without Gentiles, wouldn't say. Well, what they say about the Jews and what they say, Tom, is that the Jews like on the both sides of each coin. I'm sorry, but that's, so here we are. I was going to say that Jews like to own both sides of each coin. So you'll find out that the top left is on top right. Absolutely. And I guess again, what, you know, as far as the right fingers as far as the nationalists is concerned, I don't need to rehash that and recap over and over again. The fact of the matter is that we have this stigma of Nazism, of Ustashism,

37:50of fascism, of white racism, whatever that means, means nothing. And hence the reason we are much more cautious and hence the reason also that many of those folks, and I know some of them, not high level, but low level folks in the FBO in Austria and FD, they have some of them are conciliatory that trying to buy some favors with Israelis. They stage pilgrimages literally to this wall in Jerusalem. And they want to buy some favors from Israelis, not all of them, but quite a few of them, precisely because they want to exonerate themselves from those, what I call it. Well, just about every member of Congress has a picture of himself wearing a Yarmacan kissing the Wailing Wall. Yes, yes, yes, it's called the politics of penitence. I had a piece on that in New York, because it's mental observer, quite a large one, the politics of penitence. And I guess we all have to go through it. And I assume, I'm just taking a while, please don't quote me on that, but I assume that also Donald Trump has been subjected to this type

38:54of brainwash, if I can put it that way. Without question. Well, look, you're not going to be a success in real estate development in New York City unless you've made peace with you. Well, that's the big question. I mean, you think it's going to be the pain forever. We will have made a billion times. Well, I mean, it's all true. Was Trump always a Trojan horse? Has he been compromised? Does he genuinely agree with us, but has been compelled to at least give the Jews Iran? We could talk about that all day. And nobody really knows. Let's not kid ourselves. But Tom, like you, there has been some good that Trump has done, even in light of Iran, even the post Iranian Trump assessment has to be somewhat objective and be put on a balance. A scale has to be balanced. And this is an issue. It is a big issue. It is not the only issue. We're going to talk about that with Jared Taylor and Dr. Michael Hill as we get into the next few weeks as we clear, you know, our march around the world. But I mean, Tom, you've already, you know, of course, is sort of touched on that tonight. And that is not to absolve Trump of the catastrophe.

39:56The complete and utter failure that his decision on Iran has been. But do you really want Abigail Spanberger and her look running the country? It's just a fair question. I'm not saying that as a Trump loyalist. I don't, you know, I view Trump as a utility. Can he help white people? That's all I care about. But I'm going to have to be honest. I'm more concerned with internal issues. And I love it. I've got to give him a massive credit crimp. I'm talking about him for standing up for, for our folks during those, what you were, the Washington, the Congress, the January 6 protestors, you know, certainly. And I'm doing that. He let all of them out of jail a year ago, you know. And I, I commanded him on his understanding what this law for a means, you know, this law for the United States of America. It's worse than in Congress. Hold on right there. My friend, we got to take a, you know what, that's saying something like that as well. That's saying something. We got to take a quick time out. Last break of the hour. We'll come back when I talk to Tom about right-wing parties in Europe,

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41:59Isn't this great? Just the two of us. No work, no interruptions, no phone, no TV. Finally, we have a chance to just talk. I mean, how long has it been? Well, first of all, we should talk about your schedule. There are a few things that could use some adjusting, but overall, I think it's going all right. Basically, I think we're doing a pretty good job of communicating, which is good. You're doing a really good job of letting me know how you feel about things. I want to keep the lines open if you know what I mean. Jerry, it's four o'clock in the morning. What are you doing? Oh, I was just giving Emily a bottle. Who are you talking to? Emily. She's only three weeks old, and she's a slave. I know. I was just practicing. Family, isn't it about time? Isn't this great? Just the three of us. No work, no interruptions, no phone. From the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

43:08And welcome back with Tom Sunnich, and he, like Ruben Caleb in the hour prior to this, both of them, along with nine other contributors, all great and good, responded to my question, my request for opinion on the war in Iran. It's going to be a very big expanded feature piece in the very next edition of the American Free Press coming out this week. So if you're a subscriber to the American Free Press Checker mailbox for that, so many of you are. If you're not, you can be at americanfreepress.net. Now Tom, let's talk about this. Again, one of the purposes of our march around the world is to inquire of our guests. The situation our people are facing or enjoying or being subjected to in these distant ports of call. And we do that.

44:09But I also want to know about these right wing parties in Europe, which again, it's all a matter of perspective. Here we have the Republicans in the Democrats. In Europe, depending on the nation, you have any number of parties that are either more or less favorable than what we would desire. But here, of course, you know, the Republicans cozying up to the Jews in Israel is a very big problem. Let's talk about the right wing parties of Europe cozying up to the Jews in Israel. What are you seeing? What are the real parties that are advancing our position and what parties are sort of playing? Well, not necessarily. Well, I mean, we'll be playing a little bit too close with, with fancy with the Jews. There you go. Well, take it Tom. Look, James, I said at the beginning of our discussion that this national memory, I'll put it on the quotation marks and the historical memory of European nations is just as much as it can sound very rosy and very very academic, very nice and romantic.

45:10It also has bad sides. Namely, it is often used as a weapon pass. It's being weaponized against the neighboring nation because if you look quite openly at the map of Europe, you know, every European nation at some point at the recent history has been in war with the neighboring white nation. Now, that's our tragedy and you've got to ask yourself a question who you want or who benefits from it and we know very well who benefits from it. Okay. Now, as far as the current situation is concerned, also keeping mine, for instance, my friend and my colleagues, I will be in Finland shortly with Taylor and Gregory Johnson as well. I'll tell you one thing. When I speak with those guys with Scandinavian nationalists, they're quite not all of them, but quite a few of their very, very pro-Ukrainian that's siding up with the Ukrainian nationalists with all due respect. However, if you move down south, if you look to the friends and I have friends, I also have friends, you know,

46:13both nationalist friends, you know, you know, some of them very well. And in central Europe as well, in Germany, you have the opposite side. I don't want to say that they have Russian agents, but they're much more conciliatory folks in central Europe saying, Hungary is nationalist in Hungary, they're much more conciliatory towards Putin and to Russia. Then their friends, their nationalist friends in Scandinavia. So again, you have this rift also. We can call it the religious rift as well. Why is it, Paul Tom? Why would the people in Scandinavia be interested? Because, you know, Scandinavian Finland has had very bad, for instance, Finland had very bad relationship. It was part of Russia. That's exactly what Rubin was talking about. Yeah, absolutely. Well, whatever side Russia is on there against it. Absolutely. Why is Estonia? And I certainly appreciate it. I like Estonians, I like the Baltics and nations, they're great nations, but the

47:16fact of the matter is they suffer it under communism tremendously. You know, they lost their gene pool over there. It wasn't destroyed. But the problem is that. And not just by the communists, but even prior to that, during the Tsarist-Rusarist Russia, during Alexander III, and then Joe Nicola. And in fact, you've got to check out both sides just as much as I can appreciate my story, my creation story. I've got to look at the other side as well. And of course, you know, it doesn't mean that we've got to demonize the Russians quite to the contrary. But you've got to, we've got to actually always keep in mind. We have a common thread. We are Europeans. We have a European gene pool. And we've got to stick together and forget our tribal issues, our in-group issues, because it's not going to take us anywhere. This is probably the benefit of the United States. In the province of the civil war, you know what happened during the civil war? I'm well, I will decide, James, I will decide with you more on that issue.

48:22You always have to ask yourself a question. How do my adversaries, my enemies, my foes, how do they look at me? How do, for instance, folks, let's say, that 40 million non-Europeans who live in the European Union, most migrants, for a second, third generation. How do they look at the European Union? I know what you're saying. And I just can't bring myself to it. You know, what was, what was the Lincolnites thinking? You know, honestly, Tom, if the Confederates had won that war, we white people would have, there would have never been a World War II. I mean, America would never have gotten involved. Exactly. I know there is a book, a nice book on that issue. I can, I could talk about this precisely. This is, in fact, the first world war started with a defeat of the Confederates, you know. And it is processor, even of the verbal and this law for it. I like this word law. Even the process of demonizing in the international law, it started with a, with a, with a, with a defeat of the, of the, of the South, you know, and then you have

49:30the demonizing criminal logical pathologizing in language. And I wrote about this quite extensively together with Kevin McDonald. Exactly. It's, it's, it's, it's so true that the, the, the defeat of the South led to the World Wars as we know them. Now, I think is, they don't want us to split up because they don't want an America that's half as large, half as wealthy, half as populated, they couldn't be used. And we probably would not have been involved in World Wars one or two had the Confederacy prevail. All right. Tom, we got just a minute or two remaining. And I want to be sure to work this in. If you want to read Tom's thoughts on Iran, you can check it out in the next issue of American Free Press. I'm going to ask you a two-part question with about two minutes remaining. And we have to make a case. I could have gone three hours with you as I said with Ruben earlier. What is the average Croatian citizen thinking about the war in Iran? I mean, are they that concerned about it? And then give us a very quick preview of your upcoming schedule and projects because I know you're always on the speaking circuit. All right. As far as the Iran

50:33issue is concerned, there is not a uniformed opinion about that, even in the government circle. Some folks are just too hesitant to afraid of speaking out loudly against this joint bombardment by the Israeli and American forces, precisely because of the Israeli issue. Probably there would be more, you know, a couple hundred percent. They beat up on the Americans without the money. Nobody wants to touch this, you know, they take a 10-foot pole, you know, and they just own as far as Israel is concerned, it's the biggest taboo, especially, you know, you know, what the laws are, the legislations, you know, the European Union, just for a minor joke, you can end up in the Jamie, you know, so we don't have the first amendment here anyway. But, you know, folks are, but I'm glad the things are there were folks are waking up, you know, even folks, you know, are not necessarily academics, but they see more clearly now than let's say five or six years back. Now, as far as my tours are concerned, well, I'm proud to tell you that next week, in fact,

51:34next Tuesday, I have a speech in a nearby Hungary, and I like the Hungarians. Believe it or not, there's a large German community. I'm not talking about all community ethnic Germans from proud to the Second World War, and they are descendants, but I'm talking about the Germans who literally immigrated, who settled down, who relocated to Hungary, you know, and Hungary, it's a nice place, you know, the bullet on lake, I mean, when I check on the map, so I'm having a speech on the German jurisdiction, on the German law firm, of course, in a very mild language, in a very, I can say, a very convolutive language, because I cannot be too explicit, but Hungary, it's two hours right from here, by the way. So this is my first speech in German, and I'll talk about generally, about the German audience, about 50, 60 people, and then let me tell you, I will be next month in April of the 19th in Finland, and I'm glad to announce that, folks, and you may want to, you may want to spread this message, spread this news. Jared Taylor will be there as a speaker,

52:38I will be as a speaker, Greg Johnson, some other folks from Europe will be speakers, and I was there last year with Jared Taylor and some other folks from Europe, and we had a very good turnout, very rich, very nice, very well organized by the guys, and I got to get credit to this guy, Tuku Karis, a thinny guy, you know, man, it's very nice, very well spoken, and I'll speak perfect English, the well dressed, well groomed, so there's no nothing wild, and I enjoy being there. And then right after the, I have that in Germany, again, for the folks, I guess, that's May, 20th May, 20th in Wutmanhausen, it's a nice place in, in Turinja, I have a talk on the ancient myths in German, of course, ancient myths and modern myths, and what's the, what's the difference? What do they have in common? So by May, May thesis is basically that we can learn from Homer and Ovid, Ovid, Ovidius, much more about the lies and deceptions and self-denial and how

53:45people transform themselves, how the metamorphores themselves into different species, then we can learn from all those sad treatises from quote-unquote modern experts and world knowers and world enablers and world-improvers, that's my major point. Tom, you know, every year that passes, brings me to a point where I say, you know, I can't possibly admire or appreciate this guy anymore, and then you come back on the show and that capacity just expands as it is done tonight. Thank you so much for informing us for another hour this evening live from Croatia, another appearance during our march around the world, and for all you do for our people, all you have done, all you are doing, and all you will continue to do as well, you've just given us a couple of stops you're going to be making in the very near future, much more to come from Tom Surnich as you're always. Thank you Tom. Thank you and my best regards to your friends, tell them to

54:48write to me if I can be of any.