Projector Room Episode 205 Wolf Nipple Chips! (05/03/2026)

0:00Hello everyone and welcome back to Project Crew. The podcast where we, Gareth Miles and I talk about films, cinema and TV, so we're blowing the face. Gareth, is your face blue? It's not, but you say my name twice, that's amazing. No, no, it's not blue. It is cool outside, so it could be turning blue, and I'm just not aware of that. Well, by the end of the show, it might be because then we would have fulfilled the criteria. The show is 205. It's Thursday, the 5th of March due to a Wednesday night cock-up last night on my part, sorry everyone, and it is show 205, I've already said that, projectorroom.co.uk as our website, where you will find all sorts of lovely stuff that is in the links way, with

1:06the way of links. Maybe group is where we scoop up most of the stuff that we are talking about, but Urfan Ali in the group, fed back on the last show, he said, but beyond 1981, poor, it is what you were talking about, was my first foray into horror, Gareth. What? I watched the first 10 minutes at my uncle's video rental shop, and I was hooked. Ah, amazing. So it was his for it's not, he didn't watch it recently, and then suddenly go, ah, I'm going to go try and go investigate this horror genre and the tender age of ah, Urfan's what? I don't know how it is. I can't remember if I ever asked him. Amazingly, years later, he goes on in uninterrupted, I had the pleasure of meeting David Warbeck in person at a film festival, very charming guy, says, ah, a front door with lots of

2:06he's not David Warbeck. Very charming guy with lots of stories, Ruma had it, he was in the running for James Bond, but lost out to he thinks Roger Moore. I can I can I can elaborate on that if you wish me to, but I wouldn't dare interrupt you, carry on. And a last note to me, he says, Ted, you should check out Open Black if you like Titania Maslani as per notes on last show's keeper, what we were talking about, as she plays about 10 roles, she's already good actress. I did actually have a quick look at Urfan Black, and I realised that I started watching it before, so I watched one episode and kind of gave up at the same point really, it wasn't really for me, but I did note that she was a good actress, right? You can now talk about James Bond. Well, David Warbeck, he's quite the commodity, he's a wonderful actor, and he's strange, how he just sort of bleeds into things that you're doing. Obviously, the story about James Bond

3:13is kind of up in the air, but from what I can gather from various different sources and books that I've read and a particular book that I happen to have one of very few copies of, which is a biography about David Warbeck, it says that he was, David Warbeck was kept on retainer by United Artists, who made the James Bond films at the time, and what they would do is whenever Roger Moore was coming in to negotiate the salary, they would say, well, how much are you looking for for this film, and Roger would say, well, do two million would be fine, and they would go, we could do you one and a half, and he would go, no, two million, or I'd walk, and they'd go, right, okay, well, we got David Warbeck sitting there, so we'll just bring him in, bring him David Warbeck, and Roger Moore would think, oh, right, okay, I'll do it for 1.5 million, so they pay

4:13David Warbeck to have him do that over a couple of the films, but it meant that Warbeck couldn't go and take larger jobs, so we ended up doing episodes of TV shows like Minder and stuff like that to keep in his insurance and stuff like that, but he couldn't go and give himself over to a film that was going to take a year to make or whatever, with all the publicity and stuff, because he was he was under contract and the deeply affected his career that way, but he could flitter off to Italy and make the Beyond or Ark of the Sun God or something like that, that might take a couple of weeks and then come back again and not have to worry about things, and he was just getting a nice little bung from Cuppie Broccoli to be there when a rainy dinner, so that's something that they do to keep negotiation smooth between stars and the films, but there was something I was watching quite recently, Steve Cougan did a live stand-up show a couple of years ago, sort of

5:21out of randomly, I don't know where they did this live random show, I think it was Alan Partridge live on stage, and if you watch that, there's a segment in halfway through it where he's showing off you know, fashion, Alan Partridge style fashion, and the show looked at pictures of David Warbeck, because he was a catalog model as well back in the late 70s, and it was just bizarre, why is David Warbeck in the middle of this? Is there some gag there that I'm completely missing, but yeah, no he's a great actor and I'm very envious of Erfinali getting to meet Mr. Warbeck when he was alive because he passed away at a quite an early age, which was deeply unfair. Right, okay, well thank you for that phone, certainly generated some conversation there, so well done indeed. Right, our new section called News, last but not least we forgot.

6:23The first thing, well I was going to say, the first time we did it, we had about six stories, the second time was about four stories, last week, last time we forgot all together, and now we're down to two dubious ones. Well, the last year was really quite long, so I figured I'll just walk in a couple of stories that might generate quite a bit of chat as opposed to trivial stuff that we might try and stretch out or something, so I'll let you start first with your exciting one. Oh no, it's not very exciting, it's a Guardian report that reckons that more of us are watching YouTube on televisions now than on any other medium, so not laptops, not phones, not tablets, nothing like that, we're all putting it on our telly, and this did ring true with me because that is absolutely true for me. My YouTube time is in the evening sitting in front of the television with my remote control in my hand, the app on my Roku box, and that's when I use, and that's when I watch YouTube, now that's not

7:28strictly true. If I'm doing some research in the day for a phone or something, I might jump in and quickly look at something, but 95% of the time, probably more, I'm following this pattern, and they reckon that they've done this research with all sorts of age groups, and there are varying numbers between age groups, but the YouTube viewing for over 55s, for example, has just gone up and up, and the, what else have we got here? The stats are showing the 16 to 34-year-olds are more likely to be using it, but anyway, I'll put a link in the show now if you want to drill down to the stats, but does this ring through with you? Do you or your family? Are they more likely to watch YouTube on a telly? Absolutely, yes. I think there's two ways to look at this, but yes, the main way I would

8:30watch YouTube is on my TV night, and even to the point where if there's YouTube, I want video that I want to watch, and I'm not near my TV, I'll be sticking it on my watch later list, and then when I get to my TV, I will watch it back, and that goes for shorts as well. I rarely watch shorts on my phone, but I think that where people are using their phone, they're tending to use shorts like TikTok, or let's see, on Facebook, because it reels, or something like that, or Instagram, they kind of scroll that way, and then whenever they're done with that, and they're sitting down in front of the TV, that's whenever YouTube comes on, and they're not using YouTube on their phone anymore, because YouTube is, they're bigger videos, I keep sitting down and going right, what I'm going to watch night, oh, that's 20 minutes long, I don't know if I want to spend 20 minutes watching a YouTube video right now, and I'd rather watch this, it's only four minutes long, so, you know, I think people are just, they get comfortable, settle down and go right, I'm going to devote

9:34half an hour to watching this video now. Yes, I think you're right, and of course it's, you're more likely to get more content in landscape, TV shape format, so it just makes sense. It's okay to flick through TikTok on your phone, because it kind of lends itself to that, but but yes, there you go then, we're the same. I haven't even got an arrow in my TV, I've not got a TV license, and that's all I kind of do really, but yeah, anyway, that was the story, it's in the Guardian, linking the show notes, what have you got? Well, it's the big, big story about Netflix pulling out of the Warner Brothers deal, and it looks like Paramount is set to somehow dump up 111 billion dollars, you know, because whenever you're broke, you've got that,

10:34to take over Warner Brothers. Paramount has new money, Larry Ellison is coughing up this cash along with his son, who is the CEO of Paramount that's David Ellison, so that they can make the purchase, because you know, he just rolled into a bank and withdraw your savings and things that got now 111 billion dollars. So, but you know, it's one of those things that's got everyone really worried like what's going to happen here, but there's some things that are happening, there's fees that need to be paid, Netflix is actually getting $3 billion for this, which is bonkers, because they didn't go through, and they weren't able to take on the debt and all that kind of stuff, because Warner Brothers, it's not just about buying Warner Brothers, you're buying their debt too, and Netflix eventually walked away from it, but they got $3 billion for all their

11:35negotiations so far, which is easy money, but it was announced that Paramount lost about 570 million dollars in the last quarter, and perhaps Netflix is thinking that if they waited out, they might be able to buy both Paramount and Warner Brothers for right about the same amount of water we're looking to pay for Warner Brothers. Yeah, the Warner Brothers CEO, Zazlav, said that he's going on the record to say that the deal may not pass, but Warner Brothers will get $7 billion for the breakup fee from the Netflix possibility there, and Zazlav might, I don't think he's going to stick that money into developing feature films, I think he'll be handing that money out to the shareholders so that they get something before Warner Brothers goes tits up,

12:42but it'll be interesting to see what happens going forward. At the moment, I think the only positive about Paramount buying Warner Brothers is, and I'm reading this into it, is Paramount is quite good at releasing physical media, Netflix is terrible at it, they don't like to do it, because why would they release a blue ray of something like that whenever they want you to go to subscribe to their streaming service to watch it? So Paramount has a whole arm of that, and Warner Brothers as well have a really big arm of physical media, so hopefully the two of them managed to come together on a range, some sort of forward-thinking physical media arm so that people are buying it, because once again, this quarter sales of physical media are on their way back up again, because people are wanting to cancel the whole Netflix and streaming thing, so I'm hoping that the tables are finally turning, but that could be dying to the idea that, you know,

13:46what is it, Gen Zad, who are now running out to get DVDs and VHSs and things like that, are just going into charity shops and buying them all there, they're not quite going to Amazon or or a boutique blue ray stores online to buy the big expensive blue rays and things that are coming on, they're quite happy just picking up an old DVD copy of Swordfish and taking that home for a pint, and that's them, they've got that film, they can watch it anytime they like, they don't have to pay any streaming costs whatsoever, TV shows and that sort of thing, they're grabbing all of those big box sets of the wire and breaking bad and stuff, taking those home, so if you have media or physical media still, you might be lucky, that might be worth a bit of money in the future, because the price of it is going back up, what do you think, Ted? These things go in cycles, don't they? Because in five years time, we'll be reporting the opposite thing, and DVDs are dead,

14:51and no one's buying physical media, and the streaming services have wise up, and they want that they've made it attract more attractive and blah, blah, blah. How is that going to really sit in the mouths of the customers? There's a term for this now that seems to be rampant at the moment, called insitification, where you pay for something, a service, and gradually things get worse, the perfect example is Amazon Prime, where you pay for a monthly subscription, and now you're getting ads in that monthly subscription, and the same with Netflix, that's insitification happening, so if they start to lose their customer base, and they go right, well, we'll just remove the adverts and get people back on again, who's going to, in the right mind, go back on and go, quite happily jump back on board. I think it depends on, as soon as they go back up, they start throwing ads at you. I think it depends on the content creation, though, because if Amazon are

15:55making stuff that people really want to see, and they're not putting it on to optical discs or physical media, then people will still want to see it, because they're friends that we're talking about it at school or down the pub or whatever, and so the only way you can watch it is on Amazon, and the same thing will be true of Netflix if they decide to stick with their policy. I think you're, you see, you're seeing this from the perspective of someone that is really into physical media. I'm looking at from the perspective of people that Joe Public probably doesn't really care about physical media. Now, I do accept that Jen Z might change that, fair enough, okay, but up till now, we haven't had that argument. I think that Joe Public just doesn't give us stuff, as long as they can watch somehow what they want to watch, and it's been proven that people outside of me and you seem to be okay with watching Adverse. I just can't believe it,

16:57that people have YouTube subscriptions and just watch Adverse, and it would just drive me nuts. Oh yeah, absolutely, but then on the other side of that, the whole rise and success of streaming media, let's not forget, both Amazon and Netflix originally got their audience by having a huge catalogue of movies, not through creating their own stuff, whenever they became a movie studio themselves, they changed exactly what they were. If Paramount back in the late 90s was to say, you have to be a member of Paramount to be able to watch Paramount movies. You would have gone, no way, sold Paramount, I'm not having anything to do with that. I want to be able to buy whatever media I want to buy, but Netflix did that slowly over the course of time, and now you're watching Netflix exclusives, a bit like BBC iPlayer. They have an array of films that they have for a small

18:03period of time, but that's it. Everything else there is stuff that they're producing themselves, so they're a movie studio with a captured audience, and they're losing that audience, and I think that people will start to wise up whenever they're going, well, there's nothing I want to watch here, or I've seen everything that's good, so what do I do next? And they don't like the idea of you swinging from tree to tree and moving from Disney Plus to there to there. People don't want to watch Disney Plus, and they're losing subscribers left right and center. The only people who are stuck on Disney Plus are families with young kids who don't really get what's happening in Star Wars or Marvel. No, it'll be interesting to see what happens. Sorry, I'm going down a tangent. We've got the gold into it. We've got no time for the rest of the show now, so thank you for

19:04listening, everyone. It's been really nice to bring you today's news. To the news, it's such a time consumer. Sorry. Right, let's go to suggested viewing and reviews from our lovely listeners, and we're going to start, you're going to start with a shudder trio from Phil Harding, aren't you, Gareth? Well, yes, well, you did ask me at the start of the show if I was blue-faced. Well, I'm a little red-faced because it turns out that Phil Harding is an all-power of mine for years ago, and I just thought it was a coincidence. He had the same name as someone I grew up with, but it's not. It's the same person, and he actually lives closer to you than he does to me, so yeah. Phil has watched Together from 2025, which is a body horror starring a real-life actor, couple, Dave Franco and Alison Brie. Oh, I remember, we had this in coming soon. We did. And Alan was a bit kind of squeezy about it. The pair are having

20:08relationship troubles, so they move from the big city to rural community to try to get closer together. Turns out the locals have a freakish marriage cult that literally fuses people together. So boy, they're alert. Some really good practical effects on display in this and convincing performances from the leagues. You don't find out about that until about four-fifth through the film. That's a real spoiler alert that is. Oh, sorry. I didn't know. No, no, it's not. It's not you. I'm blaming Phil. But anyway, I have seen it, and it's a really good film. And when the reveal comes, whichever one knows now that listens to this, it's really quite shocking. You know, what on earth is going on here? And he's right. The effects have done really well. So I recommend that as well as Phil does. Cool, cool. Well, Phil also watched The Ugly Stepsister from 2025.

21:11A really dark alternative to Bridgerton. This is a Norwegian production, best with subtitles, not dubbing. It's a darkly funny take on the Cinderella story with some of the most two-curling, shocking body horror I've ever seen. We're meant to root for The Ugly Sister, I think. Ted, I've got a funny feeling you've seen this as well. Yeah, I have. And it was an absolute scream. I watched it this week. It's on, again, it's on show, all of these are on Shudder. And I cut it. It is a take on the Cinderella story. But the Cinderella character kind of switches around in the middle of the film and then back again and it's all, and then it gets a bit kind of darkly, darkly dark. And in the, I'm not going to say anything more because in the last half hour, it really comes to life. And I was sit, I sat there, I'm kind of almost open mouthed, eyes wide, watching what was going on. And it's worth watching. I think you can almost just watch

22:16the last half hour, to be honest. The rest of it was a little bit boring at times. But yes, it's Norwegian. Good shout again, Phil. Is The Step Sister really ugly? They've made her look ugly, yeah, by making her up that way. But of course, you know, as the film goes on, as the characters switch around, she becomes less ugly. So yeah, it's, you need to watch it to understand what's going on really. Okay, it's not like that teeming of the story or whatever it was. She experienced well, they have the really ugly person in terms of they're actually really beautiful. The ugly duckling. Now, once was an ugly duckling. I don't know anything about Shakespeare. I'd like to tell you that when I went to school, when I went to school, not once, did anyone, in all the schools I went to and all the classes I went to mention Shakespeare. Now, nothing about

23:17Shakespeare. Well, whenever you went to school, had Shakespeare written anything? Right. So Skinner Merink is the next one. Phil has what? This much hyped Canadian, Canadian experimental horror takes its inspiration from common nightmare tropes based on crowdsourcing social media responses. The result is disjointed and they had to read the plot synopsis to follow it. That's so good. Our two kids have seemingly abandoned, have been seemingly abandoned in their house with parents nowhere to be found. Some of the imagery is quite creepy. It's not really an entertaining watch. It's more of an arty, beard-strucking curio. I remember this coming out and people saying that it was the most terrifying thing they had ever seen until it was actually released and then people stopped talking about it quite quickly.

24:19Ted, you've watched it. It's a bit spooky. I do agree with Phil that it is quite creepy and the imagery is where all the power of it is. I got it fed up with it. I started watching it, but it's just kind of arty-farty and it's a bit off the wall for me or rather off the ceiling in this case. There's lots of strange camera angles and it's quite, you should give it a go. You might get more out of it than me and Phil clearly have. Yeah. Well, I didn't realise it was on Shutter, but I see that written across the middle of the poster. Maybe I did and just forgot about it and it hasn't popped up on my feed in a while. But I noticed the director Kyle at Red Ball. He's making another one called The Lound of Nord. It signs equally as scary. We'll discuss it with that. Okay. Anyway, thanks a lot Phil. Nice little trio of recommendations there. Right, next up is Chad Dixon on Send Help. 2020-26 film, Cinema's Only for Now. I'll put a link

25:24in the show to Chad's full review on my blog of which the following is an edit. We put this into coming soon. Just thought I'd remind you of that. And what? Because it's Sam Remy's new film and Bruce Campbell's in it. Indeed. Sam Remy is back in the director's chair with his survival horror thriller that starts like an office romcom that quickly descends into a bloody nightmare. Rachel McCadams stars as Linda Little, a tireless but in an unappreciated corporate analyst. When her arrogant new boss, Bradley Preston, played by Dylan O'Brien, bypasses her for a well-deserved promotion, giving it instead to his frat buddy, Donovan, whatever that means. Linda. Linda. In fact, Donovan is just a horrible name. No, I meant sorry Donovan. Linda is incandescent with rage. That's a good word, isn't it? Linda is incandescent with rage.

26:31Despite the tension, she's roped into a high-stakes business trip to Bangkok. The flight takes a dark turn when the executives begin mocking a video of Linda's audition for a survival reality show. Seconds later, this is the bit I remember from our coming soon. Seconds later, catastrophic decompression rips the plane apart. And I think we all thought that bit was done quite well. In a harrowing sequence, Linda watches her colleagues get sucked into the night before the ditches enter the ocean. Linda wakes up on a tropical beach, only to find her boss Preston nearby with a shattered leg. This is where the movie shifts gear, says Chad. Linda's obsession with survival shows pays off. She becomes the protector while the invalid invalid invalid invalid Preston is forced to rely entirely on the woman he dismissed.

27:32True to Ramy's style, the third act, delivers plenty of a wince inducing gore and gross out humour that earned big laughs in the cinema. While the ending feels a bit predictable, McCannum's and O'Brien carry the film with high tempo, believable performances is a grizzly, entertaining survival film perfect for a rainy afternoon and Chad gives it his solid recommendation. So yes, I remember watching that. I think Alan was still here then and we all thought that that scene of the plane breaking up was actually quite done quite well. Do you remember that? Oh, absolutely. I'm dad excited about this. I just haven't been able to fit it in to be able to give it to the cinema to see it, but I will make a point of doing it. I am wondering, is we had a 15 or 18? Just how gore it is because I do have a sensitive wife who tends to

28:33tends to turn pale at the sight of blood and eye for all the age. She doesn't listen. Alan's really are. So yeah, I'll probably have to watch this on my own. Okay, then. We'll just wait until it comes on a 4K DVD which you can buy because you're not no, let's not go there again. Right, who's next? The last one here is from Carlyong who has written in about the odditurs, odditurs, odditurs, which is a 12 episode Netflix TV series, which one are episodes each. And you have, I don't know, second, there we go. I'll try and get it all on the one page. You have to hand it to the Koreans. Who else can make a highly watchable series about odditurs? Shin Haiqun plays the new compromised oddit team leader determined to clear

29:38out corruption. He transforms the team members to follow the true spirit of odditing. I've said oddit three times so far and I'm struggling to stay away. It's not really with you, Carlyong. It's just oddit. As the film uncovers case after case of corruption, it leads to one of the biggest release of the biggest one within the firm that employs the drama all the way to the top I tell you. The drama moves quickly along that quick piece and it teases us to binge it all in one go. The lead is a multi award-winning actor. He plays the poker-faced team leader who is hard as nails on the outside but soft beneath a bit like an armadillo. Sorry. There are twists in each of the cases to keep you guessing. Though some can't be obvious and for a seasoned audience,

30:46highly enjoyable series. Ted, let me guess, you've tried this. Whenever Carlyong puts something in the group, I feel that I should have a go and watch it because no one else ever seems to comment on it or know anything about it. Whenever he does that, I make a point of going and trying to watch at least one episode. I think personally that the problem with this is that there's so much dialogue in it and everything because I guess it's an auditing team and then office-based and whatever. It's all really quick fire and trying to read the subtitles while that's going on. It was just impossible but I spent all my time looking at the bottom of the screen and none of my time looking at what was actually going on. You need to watch it twice to kind of, anyway, laying that aside, it does look as though it's pretty well made, interestingly executed. The

31:51cinematography is really good, so lots of nice camera work, angles, lighting and special effects, all of that side of it's done really well and also the acting was very good. I do totally agree and it's also interesting to learn more about the Korean culture. I always come back to this one but I really enjoy the way they speak. They're intonation in their voices. It's really good. And Mr. Hardnose Shin Kai Kyun, he really is, you know, the Hardnose. He's really ruthless and that's quite good fun watching him. That comes out even in the first episode. I just think it would have been much more enjoyable if I could understand Korean. That's what I should do. Go and learn Korean so that I don't have to read the subtitles. But yeah, it's very, very talky, loads of dialogue. So I try not to put subtitles on these things. I'd rather enjoy it as it is in good Alan's style.

32:53But with this one, maybe that's what you need to do. I hadn't realized that. It's from 2024, maybe I read that, I just didn't take it in. But yeah, I'd never heard of it before. No. Well, it's these obscure Korean things, which as I said at the top, I do appreciate Ko Lyong, bringing these to the group. Because like I say, no one else does. And I quite like to have a go at these Korean things, because sometimes you just find a pearl, a pearl amongst swine. Yeah, that's quite right. Well, fandom focus is next, and it's my turn. And I have always been a great fan of the feature films of Monty Python. Monty Python and the Holy Grail in 1975, the life of Brian 1979, the meaning of life in 1983. And I'm going to add one that is one of the kind of offshoots from one of the members of the team or team members or three members.

33:54And that's Jabba Wocky from 1977. Because I thought also thought that was really, really in keeping with the quality of the other three films. Now, we've spoken about Monty Python and the Flying Circus TV show quite a few times on the show. And we've always said that a lot of it misses. There's some great sketches going on in the TV show, 12 series of it. And it's like, sorry, four series of it with each one with 12 in it. And a lot of the sketches just miss. They're not funny, but most of the rest of it kind of holds up and it works quite well. Well, when it came to these three films or four, if you include Jabba Wocky, it all just seemed to come together that they put their writing hats on and their thinking hats on and they spent a lot of time. I don't know the backstory about the money or how they produced it or how long they took to do all this, but the point is that it all comes together. And it's hardly

34:57on all these films. There's hardly a thing done wrong. It just every scene is funny, every line is funny almost. The meaning of life gets some bad press because they kind of, most people kind of think that that's the weak link in the trio. But actually, I think the meaning life is really good. It's got lots of good stuff going on. But it is different. I was first introduced to these films with the Holy Grail, obviously, because it was the early one. But the one that impacted me most was The Life of Brian, which had all the who-ha from the religious people, of course. And because of that, I think I got stuck into it even more and it was just, I found it like it was my badge of anti-religion stuff, even though they had got it wrong and it wasn't really about that at all. But anyway, that's a debate for another day. So The Life of Brian,

35:58to me, always was the favourite one. And Jabberwocky, I just, I couldn't believe that when I discovered Jabberwock. It was just so funny. And furthermore, I watched these films so many times that I have worn out VHS tapes, you know, that you just watch and watch them again. I knew the script for every sketch. Me and my friend, actually, I think I might have said before on the show, me and my friend, we actually perform some of these sketches and stuff on the stage. It's just so funny. But the point is, the central point that I'll come back to is that, yes, it all came together. When they decided to make these full length films, everything just seemed to come together in a way that it often missed in the TV show. And I shall always be a fan of the feature films of Monty Python. Nope, I hardly agree with you. They are, there's four Monty Python films as

37:02they're not. You've left off and not for something completely different, which is just a bunch of sketches. It was, but it was a feature film that they put out to sort of introduce it to America, because it went out into an American cinema. So it does actually kind of, it makes sense to it. It's usually the strongest of sketches. So it's the best way to introduce people to the sketches who have maybe never seen them before. And whenever you're watching them, you'll know them best from the TV show. So they're all just that wee bit weirder. And they maybe don't have the timing that you remember quite so well. So it's been of an odd one to watch. But I know many of life the best. Right. And I love Holy Grail wholeheartedly. I've actually only seen life of Brian a handful of times. I haven't seen it as often as I, maybe I should have, but I know meaning of life inside out. And I have to soundtrack. And I quite frequently quote little bits of it. You know,

38:02you really obscure quotes as well. I just think that that film, it does what I know for something completely different dolls, but with all new material. And you get, I'll just like a long episode of a TV show with a massive amount of sketches throughout. And you know, the TV show had ambitious sketches as well that kind of stretched on for almost half an episode. And you get that with the meaning of life, because there's really long sketches like the Crimson Permanent Assurance. It's more 25 minutes long. And that's, that's the prologue to the film. I think you haven't even started the film by the time that's over. I don't know that it was originally released with it attached to it, but it became part of the film. It was. I saw it at the cinema. And that was in the beginning of it. But it's such an impactful series of films as well. Like you lump in Jabberwookie. I'm always looking

39:05for ways that you can, you know, dump in other films that there are kind of Monty Python and Spireworks, got a few elements of it. And you're like, isn't Monty Python? Like Yellowbeard springs to mind. And even that, what was the one that they had? Was it the women in the Welles, I think, actually, they, the majority of the Python's were in that as well. I think it was directed by Terry Jones. Yeah. And he played Mr. Toad, Mr. Frog, Mr. Toad. If you go up on a tangent, you can pull all sorts of stuff in like riffing yards and fish called Wander. Yeah, a fish called Wander. And yeah, I mean, I had, before I cut this list down, I had a co-bunch of them, one assigned to each of these people. What was that? Yeah. There was that one that Graham Chapman did when he was the board office worker. What was that called?

40:07Although almost Peter Kirk was that? Yeah, yeah, that's right. Yeah. And I can't remember the name bit. But yeah, if you go up on a tangent, I thought that the Jabberwookie was the one, if I was going off on one tangent, that would be the one I was going to. Time bandits as well. Time bandits, yeah, that's right. Even Brazil. Yeah, Brazil is a really off the wall film. If you're going to go to Terry Gilliam's work, I think Brazil is quite hard work. Whereas Jabberwookie is not. And there was that other one, Munchowsons, there was that. Oh, the adventures of Baron Munchows. Yeah, that's another Gilliam thing, isn't it? Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, it's just, it's a wonderful piece of history. I wonder how well it's going to do it. If the kids of tomorrow, I wonder if they will get it. I don't think they will. And I was talking about Holy Grail the other day.

41:09He must be a king. How do you know? He hasn't a chit all over him. Yeah, I used that. And it's some lovely felt down here. Well, you can just, you know, in my youth, we were just quoting at each other, me and my friends, all this stuff, all the time. We just were so in love with it all. Yeah. Yeah. I'd love to watch it again. I think they're all coming out in 4k. I urge y'all to go out and buy them. I know that was my that was my fandom focus. And next time it's your turn. Terrific. Terrific. Good call. Good call. Flop of the phone. Anything in there? Yes. I'm going to throw in one that I was, I wanted to watch for a number of years. I remember as a kid, a friend of mine's older sister and her friends were really excited about this film coming out. And it had, I was supposed at the time. Maybe I just knew him from hot shots or something like that or Ferris Beater, but it had Charlie Sheen and Emilio as defense and they

42:12were dead excited about this because they were, they were two really handsome young actors that the girls all loved. And they, I think they hired this on video because I might have gone direct to video here in the UK. And it's always sat there as one of those films that maybe I should watch that, but I don't know if I fancy it that much. It's the two of them play garbage men. And it's a, it's a comedy that has action sequences in it. But I don't know that that's right. But I finally got a Rhine to sitting down and watching it. And I have to say it is a ginormous steaming pile of crap. It's written and directed by Emilio as defense. And I think it's one of his first films on the back of his sort of celebrity starting to happen. And obviously he's, he's cast with his half brother Charlie Sheen. And the two of them do have some chemistry on screen, but you would expect so much more from them. Keith, Keith David is in there as well. And he's

43:14almost like the sort of the third wheel on the on this comedy pack. And he is, by far, it away the best of the lot here. But it's one of those films that feels really like an extended sitcom. And it has some, I think slightly passable gags here and there, but not enough to build a film around. It's about two garbage men who discover a body in the trash and realize that it's all connected to this conspiracy to dump toxic waste or something like that because they're garbage men. They get involved. But I checked out after about 40 minutes. I didn't laugh once. I might have, I might have smirked at the delivery of a line as opposed to a line. But everything's just so uncomfortable. You know, there's a moment where Charlie, Charlie Sheen, who I have,

44:19I've a bit of renewed faith in because I loved that movie, The Chase, that I eventually got to say because he's so good in that. Here he's really awkward. And there's a there's a sequence where he has to run away from people with Leslie Hope and the two of them are having an exchange as they're they're running away from something. And they're, I think he's having to run slowly, but he's making it look like he's running fast and taking extra steps. But it just feels so awkward and weird. I think the whole film just is summarized by that scene because none of it is funny. None of it feels natural. Everything that they go to do feels like it's the set up to a gag and that gag doesn't pay off. It's an abomination. It really is poor as get out on a media West. If as it proves themselves to be a pretty decent director, there was a film that he made a couple of years ago called This Is The Public. I think it was

45:22called. That was a really well-mead light comedy drama about a public library. But yeah. Oh yeah, I saw it here. Yeah, it was well done. It was well-mead. Yeah. But this was just, it was wretched, absolutely wretched. Don't bother with it. Have you ever heard of it or seen it? No, it sounds dreadful. I was just trying to focus in on who Charlie Sheen is. Two and a half men. I think I've seen one episode of that at some point. So I know who he is in that, but he's Martin Sheen's son. He's a bit of a, he's my little child. You know, from Pocalypse Die. Oh, right. Okay. Yeah. And he was in being John Markovitch. I probably wouldn't know him from that because he was the guy that was no thing about with the girl in that. So yeah. Anyway, yes, again, it's one of these kind of 80s people that you know really well and I have no idea about it. We've seen Wall Street with

46:24Michael Douglas. I think I might have done, but I couldn't Charlie Sheen's the Nadi's, the young plucky young. I couldn't tell you anything about it. Young guns, hot shots. No. I've seen hot shots. I would see the one that is jumping around with a strap round his forehead. Well, he's talking Harley and that he rides a Harley, Devton. No, he sees. You see, all of this is so long ago and I've only ever seen it once because it's not really my kind of thing that I've just completely forgotten about it all. Well, anything in the 80s, might you, this is 1990. Yeah. Okay. One year's major in the 80s. Anyway, well, stay away from that one. Charlie Sheen's in better comedies. I run that time. I can assure you I'll stay away from that one. Let's go to private screening. Your choice last time

47:24on the back of Robert DeValle passing away. Well, yes, I wanted and I have been wanting to revisit a film that I watched when I was actually quite young. I think it was on the middle of the day, maybe on a Sunday afternoon, on ITV, or probably channel four, back around 1990 or so. And I'm a bit surprised that I'd seen it, but I wanted to watch it again because I don't remember it particularly well and I never really connected it to being, or I didn't know who Robert DeValle was when I first watched it at that time. But at my young age, I appreciated this as just a good film. And I wanted to watch it again because it's a real, it's just a little slice out of life, a little tale that you're not going to find anywhere else that someone might tell you, just over the counter or whatever, whenever you're having a chat.

48:28You know, it's a bizarre little film that went on to big things because DeValle was, I think he actually got the Academy Award for it. Tass Harper, it was her first film, and she was nominated for a bunch of different reviews, or a bunch of different awards. Alan Barkin is in there as well, quite a young Alan Barkin. Wilford Brimley is in there too. Still looking the same age as he would do for the next 20 years. Betty Buckley, who I did not recognize at all. It was afterwards when the names were on the screen, that I was like, that was Betty Buckley. Wow. Doing some country master in singing, but it's about DeValle playing a broken-dying country singer who's hit the end of the line. He's not going, well, he's not maybe an alcoholic, but he's got alcoholic problems, and he's broke, and he's destroyed, and his

49:31career is never going to come back, although there's an opportunity for him to potentially try, and he's got this burning anger inside him, or the curiosity to know what would happen if he was to try, could he recapture, and he's constantly at war with himself as to whether or not he should, because he knows what the story, the path that his character goes down in the story, gives him everything that he needs in life, and it's almost a real second chance. Should he risk it all and try to recapture the magic that he had in years gone by? And we just follow him for a couple of years, as he doubles with this, as he feels the difficulties of adapting to a modern life and giving himself truly to someone that he loves.

50:36And it's just a beautiful, sweet little story that doesn't do anything particularly elaborate. It doesn't have any hugely dramatic moments, or anything, it's just such a small, nice little film that covers an interesting period of time in someone's life, after their star has faded, and I think it's an absolutely phenomenal movie. I really enjoyed watching it again. I really enjoyed the connection between all of the characters, as we get to see Devile's character of Max Ledge, which is one of the coolest names in cinema, I have to say, and it's weird that it's in such a little dying beat drama, and not some sort of big action movie. But as his character interacts with his old life and meets his ex-wife and and deals with his family that came from that life before, as he moves into his new life with

51:42his new wife, Tess Harper, who is just a meek and quiet woman who has built a life for herself, and she's satisfied with that, she's content with that. And yeah, it's a wonderful movie, I would implore anyone to give it a go if they haven't seen it, and they just want that sort of lazy Sunday afternoon drama to tell them a nice little story, and Ted from the mind of Rad, I can see in the show notes, I've got a funny feeling that you didn't particularly enjoy this one. Well, firstly, I don't know any of these people are apart from Robert DeVile, so the same thing applies again, it's a 1983 film, it's full of 1983 people who you clearly know really well, and I've never heard of them, Betty Buckley and Tess Harper, I don't know who they are, and so you would have been turned on by the fact that a partner and he else, a partner that

52:43it's full of these people you know, and I don't know any of them. Robert DeVile, I thought was, I mean, his performance was okay, incidentally, I spent the first 30 minutes of this kind of fighting to stay awake, it was just so boring and dull and I was yawning and trying to keep my eyes open, it was just so, and you know, dated as well, everything looks like it's, you know, small town America again in its 1980s fashions and country music, if I had to choose one genre of music, that would be absolutely the bottom of my pile, you know, and when they started singing country music, oh, and then, and then they start on religion, all the religion comes out because that's what they do in that part of America apparently, or they did then, and I just don't get the whole the whole scene, what I was going to say was though, that his performance I thought was okay, but actually he

53:46looked to my mind as if he was about as bored doing it, as I did watching it, and I can't believe that he's one, I had no idea that he'd run awards or Oscars or whatever for it, I didn't, I didn't know that at all, but it's just, it's just so boring, I hated this film, I got through, in the end, I got through half of it, and also you should know that I can't stand films about show business people and about musical performers, you know, when I talked to about that Ozzy Osborne film I watched, there was vomiting blood because of that, and how tedious all these performers are, it was like watching paint dry, I couldn't stand it any longer after about 45 minutes, and it wasn't a long film, I could, I could insure it was stuck it out probably, but I was just saying pissed off with how crap and boring it was, and I couldn't keep my eyes open hardly, and you know, this is just

54:52one of the ones that I would score zero for them afraid, if you let me score it. Oh right okay, so there's nothing redeeming about it at all, I couldn't find anything, I did watch half of it, and I couldn't, apart from yeah okay, his performance seemed okay, but like I said, he was, he wasn't trying very hard, he didn't appear to me to be trying very hard in the, in the half of the film that I saw, and he looked bored doing it as well, it's like he was just like, this was a payday, an easy payday for him. Oh I think this was a really cheap movie actually, they, I think they even used one car in it twice, but it's, I suppose this type of film isn't for everyone, and it depends on the mood that you're in whenever you sit down to watch it, I know that whenever we're doing these reviews we can, and it's someone else who suggested I generally find them more

55:53like homework, and if someone had told me to watch this, whenever I could have been watching the sorority bibs, three, and then I, you know, I wouldn't be getting into this, so it would, it would be a chore, and I felt that, and I think Alan as well, whenever he was on, he, he would say that too, you know, he just can't get into it, you have to be in the mood to watch it, and it's more like, I agree, I agree, but yeah, it was, it was wonderful to revisit this film, and I think it's an excellent film, I think the art of all is superb in it, and he just has that, burning inside him, you can see him behind his eyes, and how, how upset he is, over the, or how, oh, what's the word, I can't think of the word as well, you know, you're, you're at a crossroads, and you're trying to work out what you're going to do, and you know, it just, it just all works, and I'm sure you could read a lot more into it, but because it's a

56:54petrol-filling station, you know, in the middle of nowhere, and that is, that itself is essentially a crossroads, like in his life, and he can take one road and another road, and we get to sit with him, as he chooses which one to do, but I think Deval is, it's just phenomenal, and this is one of his, his particular must-do's of films, you know, because he, he'd done the Godfather and things like that, prior to this, and I think he wanted to do something that was just, that just, you know, bored him, increased his range, you know, the late 70s, he played a lot of sort of tough cops and things like that, so this was a lot more, a much more gentle film, and I'm surprised at how gentle it is as well, you know, it is really a PG, and I think that's why I saw it so young because it was on during the day, and it doesn't have anything that you would associate with, you know, a raw drama, you know, where he's maybe effing and blinding or something like that, or, you know,

57:58as his star fails, as celebrity disappears, he's unable to defunction as a normal person, or there might be nudity or something like that, and yeah, it's enough, enough, enough, enough, I get that you like it, for fuck's sake. It's like, it's like, we're doing fanfakers again here. Well, no, I do wonder, I think it's country and western singers as well, there's something about torn up country and western singers like that, crazy heart with Jeff Bridges and walk the line and things. You've got to, you've got to, you've got to be able to stomach country music though, to begin with, I would think that often, there's a couple of numbers, but it's not me, I'd rather watch, I'd rather watch Virgin River than this, and that's saying something. All right, okay, well, we'll go to the scores then, because I've got a funny feeling it might be low. You've got to give it 15, no, I'm going to get 13, it's not perfect, but that's not perfect.

59:00I just can't believe you can't find anything redeeming in this one. Well, maybe it was all in the second half of the film, but in the first half of the film, it was shite. Okay, all right, well, we've been in there and it's in with, um, what's, what, what, what's the comparison? Oh, the light we cannot see, a nearly normal family, the gorge, I thought that was great, I was going to wire you to mark that down, I love that. You must expect it, probably, and awake. No, in the gorge, we saw him coming soon, and I was immediately drawn to it and say we're you in coming soon, and then when we came to watch it, you and Alan thought it was crap. Yeah, because it was. Well, that just goes to show that we're not going to ever agree on anything on this show, but that'll be interesting going forward. My pick for the next show is something that we both saw in the coming soon, and both said that looked really interesting. So don't you come back to me and say it was crap, and I told you it'll be crap.

1:00:06This is the thing called Scar Petter, um, and it's going to be arriving on Amazon Prime video on the 11th of March, which is just in time a week before our next recording. They're going to drop all eight episodes on Amazon Prime. This is the thing with Jamie Lee Curtis and Nicole Kidman and Bobby Canaveral. I don't know who that is. You taught me who that is. Yeah. A brilliant forensic pathologist uses forensic technology to solve primes. When this was in coming soon, we kind of said, yeah, this looks good, and it'll be worth a look. So I'm generating that look. All right, I was lying. I followed the crap. Right, let's go to themed treats, and I'm going to be the one that was leading on this, and I picked child actors and child actors because one of the reasons that that got picked as a theme was because I wanted to have a look at Village of the Damned and Village of the Damned 2,

1:01:09one or not two, the remake. So the Village of the Damned, the first one, 1960, was a really super film, really well acted. It was frightfully kind of stiff up a lip wood and reflecting when it was made, I suppose, but it was very sinister. It was made in black and white, and there was some humor injected through it here and there, here and there. The kids in the film did okay, they did their job okay, but mostly, to be honest, they only had to stand still while kind of special effects crews glow their eyes, and clearly nobody was particularly stretched. They were given the brief of, just stand there and look sinister, don't smile, and so they kind of did that. But the strength of this one over the remake in 1995, I think, is the not knowing. It's all very hitch-cockian again in the 1961, leaving the imagination to fill in the gaps.

1:02:11Unlike the later one, which I'll come to in a second, which kind of lays the whole back story on a plate for the viewer, I haven't read the book that this is all based on, but I'm guessing that the 1960 version probably is more in keeping than the American-based 1995 one. Also, the 1960s Village Life, for me, you'll talk about you in the 1980s. Well, me in the 1960s, this was just so nostalgic for me that when I was growing up, those were all the cars that were driving around, and that's what Village post offices were like, and it just reflected my childhood in so many ways, and it was a delight to kind of be back there and see what that going on, and be able to remember my childhood. So I moved then on to the 1995 version, but very sadly, I thought that this was, it just had the very dull feel of a not-very-interesting remake of something,

1:03:13had the feel of a kind of 1980s film or TV show, even though, yes, all right, it was in the 90s, but it felt like it was in the style of the 1980s, really. Pretty ropey acting, apart from the main leads, I suppose, with Christopher Reeve, he was all right, but he wasn't trying very hard, annoying adult characters, and more annoyingly again is that Carpenter had injected those religion into it again, because it's, I guess it's because it's in America, and all Americans seem to all be religious, and you know, there was none of that in the 1960s version, and I'm guessing not in the book either, but they've just injected it in and made one of the key characters, the vicar of the religious people. Anyway, laying that aside, focusing back on the kids, the children were given much more to do in this 1995 version. They had much more scope than the

1:04:15original, and the main two or three or four of them did that really well. So yes, I think that the kids were given more to do, and they did it well, and it worked pretty well. They didn't quite have the same sinister look of the 1960s kids when they were just stood looking, but there you go. Also, Carpenter tried to introduce some silly jump scares into it. There was none of that in the original. He tried to make it more like an alien themed film than the original. There's a big shootout at the end, which is, or you probably love this big shootout, but the bones of the story, I guess, are somewhat the same as the 1961, but they just made it feel like a 1980s American sick, not sitcom, exactly, but just a American 1980s film, Small Town America, and they tried to make it more about, they gave you more about the backdrop to what was going on,

1:05:24and made it more alien themed. In the original one, that was all suggestion. There was nothing on a plate for you. Because of that, I think that the 1960s one was much more enjoyable, even though the kids had more to do in the second one. You watched the second one, haven't you? I did. I hadn't seen that remake. It was one of the John Carpenter movies that had ignored really to be honest, so I thought I'd take the opportunity since you mentioned. You were going to be watching it to give it a view as well. I thought I was about cropped, to be honest. We agree. By far and away, Carpenter's worst movie, although I will say that in that I haven't seen Goose of Mars, but Carpenter's one of my favorite directors. This felt, I think it's more of an American TV movie with that kind of, it's got a really clean look to it. It's bright and

1:06:26colorful at all stages. It has a fantastic cast, and I have to say, the first 15 minutes, I was rocking this film. I was really enjoying it. I was thinking, this is going to be good. This is going to be a quality diamond in the rough, because you've got Peter Jackson, you've got our Peter Jason, sorry, who, the best way recently, who's John Carpenter's go-to guy. You've got Mark Hummel, Michael Parry, Kirstie Alley, Christopher Reeve, Linda Kuzolski, Paul Hubin's wife, isn't she? From Crocodile Dundee, Meredith Slung, Solinger. I absolutely love every name that I saw coming up. It was like, oh, yeah, yeah, absolutely. As the film went on, I picked up my phone, and I got bored, and by the time we got to the climax, I couldn't have given two turts as to whether or not these kids survived or not. I like Christopher Reeve, and I have to say

1:07:29that I haven't seen that many of his films outside of Superman and Street Smart, such a great lady, Dynan. Great skip, too. I've seen that because it's on the 4K. As an optional, arzoan extra feature on the greatest skip. But you know, most of his 90s stuff, this was the one he was in before he had his accident. So this was his last big feature film. And he wasn't great. I don't, I wonder if he, if it was a paycheck to him, and it's not the sort of film that he saw himself doing. And maybe he was kind of descending to that level. I've just noticed in the trailer there, Buck Flowers isn't it, as well. He plays the janitor. It's great to see him as well, because he's drinking at the start, if you remember him, from back to the future. He's a crazy drunk driver, and he always plays an old drunk dude in any films that he happens to be in. But yeah, it was, it was pretty woeful. I didn't enjoy this at all,

1:08:32and I was a bit shocked to see some people saying that this is great. I can't imagine why people like this, because it just doesn't do anything. Even the climax wasn't particularly exciting. There was a shootout, and I put my phone down for that bit, and then picked it back up again, as the tension ramped. And I couldn't believe the climactic moments where the time is ticking, and there's a brick wall. And I was like, this is supposed to be tense. It was tense, and I did a little bit of research into it, and John Carpenter said anyway, he wasn't interested in doing this either. It was a contractual opportunity, and so he just shot something out. He's like, fair enough, John. That's off to you. To be honest, if this is what your shit looks like, then, then, you know, we need some more top-notch things from you, because, you know, you compare this to something like the thing. That last scene in the 1961,

1:09:36with the brick wall is actually full of suspense. You should watch it. You should watch the original. Yeah, maybe well, but this remake is taking note of me. I don't care about those kids anymore. There was another one as well. Wasn't there was children of the Damned or something? I was there. I think there was another movie in the series. Oh, right. I didn't know that. Are you speaking to the first one? Okay. I might read the book. I'm quite keen to see, now I've seen both of those films, which one, you know, took more liberties. I'm guessing the original is very closer to the book. I might read it. No, okay. Check you out in your reading skills. Yeah, there was children of the Damned. It was made in 1964. Okay. It's apparently quite good for people. I'll see if I can track that down then. Okay, but that was quite interesting watching those two films anyway. You had one other? Well, yeah, it's because we were doing kids. I'm pretty curious that because we were

1:10:38thinking about kids in films. The Omen is a particularly good scary movie with a kid in it. And I think the kid who's near house ladders in it, and it signs a bit like Harvey Stevens, he was fantastic in the Omen. I really read that as one of the best kids portrayals on film ever because he was genuinely terrifying. And I'm saying this from the point of view, the first time I watched the Omen, I was utterly enthralled. I don't know if you've seen the Omen, but it is one of the finest horror films. I was scared shitless. I saw this at the cinema when it first came out. I was 14. I wasn't supposed to be in there, but I was a big bloke, a big kid, you know, and I was scared shitless. Some of the imagery and the photography in it was just like spooked me for months on end. Yeah, yeah. And Gregory Pack as well, you know, I love whenever they

1:11:43just get a big quality star and put them in. What could, obviously, just work out to be a Ruby movie, but then that just excels it. And he gives a dynamite performance and the two together, an unreliable remake as well. She's amazing and a two-in-a-two, David Warner. Yeah, that's such a phenomenal movie. And Harvey Stevens cements it. He doesn't seem to have done anything else much. He's always going to be compared to that. Yeah, but his list of credits is only three things. And also huge gaps between each of the three. Oh, yeah, he's in the remake of The Woman and The Woman. And then a TV movie in the Ines. Yeah. That's strange. Perhaps he decided to step away. Probably, yeah. If anything, maybe from The Woman, he's got a trust fund that was set up and

1:12:47he's never had to work again. Yeah, maybe. Why would you? Mm-hmm. Yeah, I agree. I was scared, shitless. And I was just spooked. For months on end, when I was the ice to shut the curtains perfectly so that I couldn't see the floating figure outside, it was just really, really spooky. Yeah. Just a quick mention for a few others. Danny Lloyd in The Shining. Kirsten Dunst in The Interview with the Vampire, just brilliant performance, I thought. Haley Joel Osmond in the sixth sense. I watched a bit of that this week, just a few snippets. And it reminded me of how incredibly well he performed in that one as well. Just in Henry, played the little boy who I can't remember his name in Kramer versus Kramer. Good catch. Good thinking. Yeah. And he was really good in that. It was a little bit dated and wooden compared to some of

1:13:50the other ones, but he did a really good job being this kind of kid that was in the middle of this big kind of hoo-ha with all the rest of them. Then I thought half of the cast of The Sound of Music, which was great, and they all performed really, really well. If you study their performances in that musical, they were really well-picked and did a great job. And lastly, I wanted to just give a shout for Natalie Portman in The On The Professional. The On The Professional, that was her first film, I think, and it really brought her out. It just showed how, but there's so many. When you start looking at child actors and start to kind of choose one to highlight, that there's tons of them, aren't there? Over the hundred and whatever years of cinema, there's just, there's loads and loads of them. And the choice is enormous. And it is, yes, there are lots of children. There tends to be

1:14:51almost as many children as there are parents. Yeah, thank you for that analysis. Yes, it's deep and meaningful, I know. So Leon is a very good one to point out. I think Alan actually mentioned in the podcast a number a couple of years ago, but on the blue ray or the 4k in the came out, there is the other cut of Leon. And if you watch that, oh, you need a shower afterwards because it, it'll make you feel, oh, achy and dirty at that. Yeah, I've seen those. I've seen that extended cut. I didn't think it was as bad as people had kind of made it out to me, but yeah, it was a bit taste untasteful for sure. Yes. But yeah, there you go. That was my lot. Right, your turn next time. What are you picking for our theme?

1:15:55Well, I thought we haven't done a sports movie. So I figured, basket ball. Oh, no. No, no, no, no, no, no. You don't have to go for some sort of sports movie. You can just have something that's centered around a basket ball. Yeah, you know, that's a woodsmut. That's a basket ball. Yeah, okay, no problem. So we'll do basket ball on the next show. So watch out for that one, everyone. And then we're going to go to the main feature in the coming soon. I think on the last show or the one before that, I can't remember. We had a quick look at this film called The Drift, which is also known as ice skater. And it popped up on Apple TV. And I thought I'd give it a go. It's a survival drama about an ice skater stranded on an ice flow in the Arctic sea. When the ice flow starts to float towards the south and melt, the ice skater must use all means necessary to survive. Now, I did a review of this and I'll link to it in

1:17:01the show notes. But the main problem I had with this film was that they used so much CGI AI. I went on a discovery tour with Gemini's trying to work out because half of it looked just so it was animated. And this is a finished film, which apparently was really low budget. And I discovered that the main character in the film called Emily tended to look a bit like a high-end video game character half a time. And apparently this is because of AI and Hans' digital doubling and it saves costs. And you know, there's a scene with some polar bears in it. It's just so obvious that they're not real and they're just created. And it kind of takes it away from it. I think we spoke about this before where you've got a film where the storyline and the

1:18:03impact of what's going on makes up for that kind of thing. But in this one, I don't think there was enough there, really. The story about the girl, another thing about the setting is that she's on this 20 foot by 20 foot bit of ice. And whenever you see a long shot of the bit of ice, it's completely still. It's so static. It's not moving with the sea at all. And it just makes you, again, you make sure you think this is inside. Even if this is not CGI, at best it's going to be in some tanks somewhere and which has been rooted to the floor. No attention to detail at all that has gone along with it. The other thing is that half the time you're not really quite sure if what's going on is real or whether she is imagining stuff. It is quite moving at times. And she, I think she's looking past her digital game show character thing. And I think she as an actor

1:19:11has done pretty well in it. And you know, it is quite moving. And I won't tell you what the outcome is. But in actual fact, when you see the outcome, you're not 100% sure at the end whether it's real or whether it's not happened or happened. There's a lot of ambiguity going on in the whole ending of the film. And throughout rarely. But there's a real feeling of isolation here that what it is good at is showing, you know, her plight. She's stuck on this thing. She's getting hungry. She's getting thirsty. She tries to drink the sea water and quickly spits it out. She starts to, because the sea is warming up, bits of the 20 foot thing she's on starts to break away. And in the end, she's on a really tiny bit of a bit of the ice that's left. And she's got a bag of sweets and she tries to ration herself with these sweets throughout. But yeah. So,

1:20:17so there is quite a lot in here that you could take away and say, yeah, that's okay. They've done that quite well. The storyline kind of holds it together. But in this case, I think that the CGI just spoils it, particularly when the polar bear who is equally hungry with with her cub comes up to her little tent. And all she has to do is zip herself up in her tent. And the polar bear gives up and goes away. Well, she would have been eased by that polar bear. No question at all. And also, she ends up in this ice cold water at one point. You know, she would not have survived in this water for a, but then we go back to the whether or not the thing is happening or not. And it's all a bit ambiguous and hallucinatory at times, I think, but not sure. You've got to kind of read into it what you want to some degree. And I'm waffled enough about it now. So I will finish.

1:21:21Well, I was quite interested listening there. I'm disappointed, I suppose. I thought this looked really good. I was quite excited for it. Well, give it go. I will, I will. Absolutely. I think I want it this weekend. It's at Science Farm. What's as your Apple TV, you said it was on, didn't you? It is, yeah. But you do have to pay a few pennies or use a, use a, what's it? If you haven't got even, even if you are an Apple TV subscriber, you still have to pay a few pennies. I suppose even whenever you think about the idea of are being on the ice, if they were to, if they were to film it up in the Arctic sea, it would be incredibly dangerous. It would. It's just, just to film it here. It's just, it's just low budget. If, if money have been spent on this film, they would, they could, they could have made it look brilliant, even though they weren't in the finished waters in the Arctic sea. It's just, it was all just on a tight,

1:22:26clearly, on a tight budget. And actually, I'll actually be really interested to see what you think of it. Yeah, yeah. Well, these, these types of films, I know they're more, more, more. So where people are trapped in a small confined space, like buried and what was that one where the car was stuck in the mud? Yeah, buried in the mud. They, they, they, they come out quite frequently and it's always unusual and interesting to see where they think of next. I've never seen talking to a girl and work and she said that she went on holiday and she had a terrible time because she went out onto the, the balcony and the, the, the, the French doors behind her, collect them locked and she was stuck right there for the best part of a day in the meeting. Some, I was like, oh, that all of a sudden, it might be me a good thriller, aside from a big stupid one. And she came back in and had to get some after some. Yeah. Right, okay. Well, that's

1:23:35cool. I'll give that a go with the weekend, I think. I watched a TV series that is doing the lines here. I don't know how I celebrated it is across the water on the mainland or if it's even doing the lines in America or something like that, but it's, it's quite a personal TV series because it's got the name of the city that is just down the road from me. It's called How to Get to Heaven from Belfast. And it's from the writer Lisa McGee from Who Did Derry Girls, a TV series. I am not enthusiastic about it, but I figured I'd give this a go because my wife told me I needed to give this a go and she wanted to watch it. So we've been watching it. And it's all right. I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm not, I can't put it in the flop of the four night because I don't hate it, but I just find it, it's a very complex series that tries to be an awful lot more than it, it actually works out to be. It's, it's, if you're, you've seen

1:24:42in Bruges, haven't you? Yeah. With Colin Farrell. I have. And most of the comedy in, in, in Bruges comes from Colin Farrell's personality. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. His, we, Narn Ireland type personality, where he, he says certain things that come off to be most witty in that Belfast type of way. This has three leads who are of that caliber. They, they talk exceptionally fast. They're, they're somewhat brutal. They are mean. But, you know, the, where they're mean, they, in the Belfast way, because we are all ourselves over here. Um, they are mean from the point that, uh, there's no harm in it really. Um, they're constantly skeptical about things because Northern Ireland people just don't believe you. Um, whenever I started doing talk sport, um, I would tell some people

1:25:46that did that and they wouldn't believe me at all. And I had to prove it to them. And I, it was just like, you go to America and say, yeah, I'm on the radio. And they're like, wow, man, let it tell us more. Whereas here, it's like, no, you're fucking not. Let's hear it. Let's hear it. No. If you can't play it to me, no, then it's not true. Look, are you going to tell us what this thing's about? Tell us what this, what's the storyline in this thing? All right. Um, yeah. Uh, it's, it's about, uh, well, it's a bit more of a serious story than you might be expecting from something that's supposed to be a comedy. Um, it's about three or four girls who do something whenever they are quite young. And three of them, uh, have to try and piece together a mystery that is connected to what happened to them whenever they were young. Um, and it takes them all over, well, Ireland, uh, out to Portugal back again. Um, and they, they meet, they meet, meet all of these weird and wacky, uh, characters

1:26:46along the way as they try to piece together. What's going on? Um, it's all right. It is, it's an intriguing enough story. Yeah. It's just it's hard to get through because it has such a modern feel forced upon it. Um, whilst I think the, the, the cast are particularly good. Um, Rushing Gallagher, who's from Andy's time up in Belfast, she is phenomenal. Absolutely anchors this in every way. She's absolutely brilliant doctors. Really, she makes this show tolerable. Um, the, the other two girls in the leads, Jeanette Keenan, um, um, I'm not even going to try that. Miss Dunn, who plays Tara, uh, the, the two of them are, are pretty good and kind of work off Rushing's leading role, you know, and they become quite a good, uh, trio at the, at the center of the

1:27:49story. But the production side of things has decided to make this really modern and snappy. So there is a constant use of, I'm not even going to say modern pop songs. I'm going to say late 90s pop songs where, you know, it, it, a lot, a lot of songs can open with a really fun and, and, and, and, and, and energetic, um, opening like, uh, the spice girls or something like that. Um, and, and you identify it straight away and whenever you're here coming on the radio, you know it, and a lot of, of, uh, of cuts happen whenever they move from one scene to another scene, you suddenly get this blast of an older pop tune. And then it starts to mallow white and it's trying to keep itself hip and trendy with the young kids and, and it, it becomes really tiresome

1:28:50after a while. And it slows maybe if you're watching it week to week, it might be okay and you might think this is great. But, uh, you know, I've watched about three or four episodes, um, three nights in a, four nights in a row. And, um, it, it started to get to me. And it was constantly being hip and trendy and, and, and modern. It was, it was like, okay, settle down, settle down. I let, let's get into the story and let's just enjoy this. Um, but it doesn't, it keeps, you know, ripping things up and then all of a sudden it's playing this new tune and they're going off on the zippy, uh, wild chase or something like that. And it, it's not what I was looking for from this at all. And, and it, it's almost like it's continually trying to win you over like a TV series should do in the first half hour. And then after that, you know, I can settle down and, and, and we'll read you in. Um, it's, it's too much. Have you seen the time? Have you seen Duke? Oh, yeah. Yes, I have. I was about to say, um, he is the clear winner out of this.

1:29:55Ardland, no hunger is in there. And I have the pleasure of being able to say that I met Ardland, uh, about 25 years ago. Um, and he is hilarious. He's not in a very much. He has basically one scene per episode. And if, if you watch the first episode, you'll see his scene and you'll get exactly what he's doing. And he is, he's the funniest thing in the whole thing. Um, the, some of the lines are quite snappy and unpretty cool. A lot of them are, are quite obvious. And you can feel that, you know, they've been thrown in because, you know, they've got to keep the comedy up. So they're looking for more comedy here and there. It's not, um, hilarious or cutting edge comedy. It is, you know, that it's, it's, it's quite tried and tested comedy. But it's got a new take on it because it's been done from a Northern Ireland point of view. Um, Bruno Gallagher is fantastic. Another one that I can say I, I spent today with Bruno

1:30:59Gallagher back in 25 years ago on a film called The Most Fertile Man in Ireland. She's, she's, she's often phenomenal wit. And, and she's quite well used here, but she, I still feel she's underused because she's, she's a lot better than the role she's playing. And then there is the girl from dairy girls, who's me and I don't know. But she has a, a really, a really quirky character. And it's the most out there character in the whole thing. Um, um, my wife thinks she's absolutely superb. Um, to me, I just felt like it was like, we've got to throw in a really wacky character. And here's that wacky character. And she's wacky in the way that wacky characters are wacky. Stereotypical wacky. Why don't you like dairy girls? Because I didn't find it very funny at all. All right. Okay. Um, and I think it's probably in that Northern Irish way. I don't like fellow countrymen who are successful. Yeah. That's what Alan

1:32:02was saying. I'm not watching that. I'm not watching that because they wouldn't let me act in it. Oh, yes, that, um, you know what, uh, Alan Paul and I wrote a banger of a TV series and it got turned down. Um, whereas old Lisa McGee, she was like, she's got two of them now. Um, so, uh, she's been successful. So obviously her TV shows are fucking shit. Um, but that's that's no for, yeah, she's well done. You're well done, Lisa. Very, very aggressive. Well, yeah, it's a hard watch, I would say, but I think a lot of people will get more mildly, drive a bit if they stretch it apart and watch it. Um, every, every once in a while or one episode a week, maybe two episodes a week. And you might get the benefits of it. It's, it's not bad. It's, it's an interesting story and it's got, it's got dark things. It's got a wee bit of horror. It's got a wee bit of ghosty supernatural stuff going on, but it's, it's just peppered with

1:33:04wee bit too much comedy and, and energy. I'm, I'm, it's tiring. Okay. Okay. I might have a look at it. I, I think, um, Douglass, um, it's made me give it a go. Even if it's only in a few minutes. Yeah. Yeah. Um, he needs more, more, he needs his own TV series. What was the one that he was in? Was it my family or something like that TV series around here? When he was an alien. Oh, was it, um, my, something my hero, so my, something about hero, my hero, yes, 45 episodes. Yeah, yeah. And he was an alien. I remember watching that. I'm just going to the cover. He's barely on the cover. He's sort of hidden down in the bottom corner and everyone else who's in it, all the British. I took a cast or a rotten center. I'm easily done there. I remember watching that and, um, it's very kind of low budget. It's,

1:34:09it, it's not badly written though. You know, some of the lines are quite good. I seem to remember, um, but the whole cut and the girl as well, the girl that is in it, she was a, I see remember that she was a, um, a very good little actress. I can't remember her name though. Anyway, um, there you go. Uh, if you get a chance and you want to investigate art, uh, oh, hamlin a bit more, uh, go on to YouTube and have a look for a flying saucer rock and roll by a guy called Andy Hughes, um, that was written by, um, Mick Duffy, who I, I worked with. Um, and you can't see, I, I didn't make the cut, but I'm in the cinema scene, uh, with a bunch of moments. All right. Um, that's, it's a, it's a cracker of them. Maybe it's only like 10 minutes long, but, uh, it was one of the most inventive and interesting films that come on in Northern Ireland for a long time. Yeah. Okay. Cool. Okay. So how's it get to him from Belfast, 2026?

1:35:10Links in the show notes for all of these from the main feature of course, and now it's time for coming soon. What do we have in, uh, in coming soon? Well, we're going to start with something that I ignored whenever I first saw, but now I realize it's not what I thought it was. Uh, bases of death. Um, the, the first thing I read about this was that it was a remake of the original phases of death. Uh, um, which, if I, you've heard of it. Yeah. I have. Yeah. And I thought, and I, when, when I saw this in the recording notes, I thought that's what it was until I saw the date. Yeah. Yeah. Um, phases of death was an early compilation from like 1978 or so, um, where it collected together a real footage of people dying. And, uh, well, yes, being killed on film. Um, and, and put them together into a, a film and released. And it got multiple parts. I think

1:36:13they got up to like part six or something like that. And it was just one of those sick, terrible TV series that, um, are not TV series, but, um, videos that you never wanted to see. But there's a new movie coming out that is, that is something to do with that. And, you know, I think about it. I think I forgot to watch the trailer. Um, I put it in and went, oh, what's that? And then forgot to watch it. But, uh, because it's, it's, it's a proper narrative, it's a proper movie, a bite, the phases of death. So, uh, it might actually hook into, to the legacy of those older films and be something more recognizable and a bit more tasteful. What did you think of the trailer? I think, well, I think you're probably right. I think that, but it, you know, it is, there's a lot of handheld camera going on and this whole found footage thing and people making videos in spooky rooms and stuff. Um, I, I don't know,

1:37:16I just, I think I'd much rather see us a proper story than stuff like this. It does look quite scary in places. Um, but I, no, I don't know the background. I don't know if it's in any way like the proper phases of death or tries to be or pretends to be or whatever. Fair enough. Okay, look, uh, well, moving on because, uh, and it could be good, it could be that, 500 miles is a new Irish drama, uh, with your mate Bill Nye. Um, this is about two brothers who run away from home, uh, in England to reach their estranged grandfather on Ireland's west coast. I would say, you know, uh, it's more like I'm like, um, and this, uh, it looks like a fairly decent little drama. Ted, did you like this? It looked really dull and boring to me, but I, I do like, Bill Nye, as you said, and I also like Maisie Williams, who's in it. And they, she was in that, um,

1:38:17comedy, kind of dark comedy two weeks to live that I brought to the show a while back. And going back even further, she was in the falling, which was that film about these school girls that fell, um, and, and, and the book of love she was in as well. Anyway, the point is that Maisie Williams was on my radar. And when I saw her in this, I thought, oh, yeah, I know her. And with Bill Nye, it might just push me over the edge to have a go, even though it looks really dull and boring in terms of a story. Fair enough. What a way to describe it. Yeah, okay. Right. Uh, next up is, uh, I have to say John Oliver was going to turn me on to this because I had to have a look after he mentioned it, an issue. But, um, Joe Nesbo's detective haul, um, is a new detective series featuring Detective Hall, uh, coming to Netflix. And Detective Hall, um, goes out and investigates

1:39:18stuff whilst being called Harry Hall. Um, obviously this is, uh, not English, Etna Norwegian thing, but, um, the fact that his last name is Hall is really funny, I think. Let me, um, let me fill in the gaps for you. Joe Nesbo is, um, an author and created Harry Hall was detective. I read Harry Hall. I read one of these books. I read, um, the snowman. And would you read the whole thing? Um, and there's, there's a whole series of these books that, that have Harry Hall in it, the bat, um, the red breast, the, uh, cockroaches, um, the devil star, and so on. So if you were a, um, there's lots, you could really go down a rabbit. You're on the, on the ball today, aren't you? Um, and yes, you're right. It is Scandinavian. And, um,

1:40:24the, uh, books are actually, my sister has read all the books and told me that they are really, really good. And, um, she'll be all over this, um, and she'll be going down that rabbit hole as well. Um, so, so that's the background to this. And I think it looks as though it's quite well made from the trailer. It looks dark and sinister, but then I think most of the, Jonas, both things are dark and sinister. Um, I, when I read the snowman, I can remember thinking, it's not terribly exciting, but when I told my sister that, she said, I think you picked the wrong one because actually most of the books are really good. So, um, anyway, there's your background. Well, I do think it looks pretty interesting. I like Joel Kinnaman, uh, who is in, um, for all mankind. And he was the, the remake rubble cop. Um, so that should balance it out quite well. So, um, Peter Stormer is in there who's, who's always good. Um, so yeah, I think, I think this

1:41:30sounds like it's, it's worth a go. Yeah. I think you're right. Yeah. It's just a shame that they called the character Detective Hall. Well, that's been around for a long time. 99. Take your book since Shubmop your 1997. This is not new. Oh, the books are. Yeah, but the new TV show is coming in that text. Yeah. Um, on March 26, which is in 19 days. No, it's not. No, today's the 5th of March. Uh, it's in 21 days. Very clever. Well done. I might be 19 days by the time you listen to this. Um, the next is Mother's Pride. Mother's Pride. I don't recognize this at all. Did I put this in here? No, I put it in. And I couldn't make up my mind about it, ready. It, it looks like one of these, um, Tweet Brit comedies. Um, the, the cast is really good. So Martin

1:42:33Cloons is, Martin Cloons takes the lead. Mark Addy is in there from, um, that, um, Super Mark Almond. Oh, yes, I'm right. He was in the full Monty as well. I want to, Josie Lawrence, who we still all love. James Buckley from Zapped, uh, Miles Jup and a load more of people, a grieving man, family man, a grieving family. I'll start again. A grieving family who own a failing pub have their lives changed by brewing real ale and entering the British, the great British beer awards. So just by that, you can just tell it's some British Tweet comedy, and it could be crap or it could be funny. It could be light and fluffy for family viewing, which it, it just, it stinks of Martin Cloons, doesn't it? Being just Martin Cloons, being Tweet and, and, and awfully nice. And, um, you know, from Brit, British sitcom land almost,

1:43:36um, but it, as always with these things, it'll come down to how well it's been written and how funny it is and what, um, I, I don't know, I think it could go either way. Yeah, it's, um, it's funny. You mentioned Jiles Mupp. Sorry, Miles Jup. Um, I, I don't know them from anything other than panel shoes, but I've always found them to be really witty on those panel shoes. Yeah, it does, uh, eight or ten cats and would I lie to you and things like that. Yeah, but, um, I have nicely seen them in anything, and I know he was in a TV series. Was it, uh, what's the story in Bala Mori, that thing? Um, but I've never actually come across him acting. Okay. Well, no, it's your chance. Yeah, he's got a huge themography that goes all the way back to 2001. It might be just far too Tweet to be stomachable. It's the, it's the kind of thing that my dad would probably watch and think it's frightfully, frightfully nice because it's so frightfully British. Well, you know, I,

1:44:42I don't think you can ever fall to Lindsay. Uh, Coons is, um, a national treasure. I love the man and I will forever watch anything that he's in. I even watched, uh, Nativity 3, wasn't it? Um, I don't know. Yeah. I mean, and Jesse Lawrence, good to see her back on screen. Yeah, yeah, totally. She's, she's really funny. Yeah. Cool. Yeah. No, that, that looks good. I'll give that a go. Okay. And finally, normal. We did this. I was, we did, we did it in show, um, 200, the last one that Alan was on. And we all, I think, said it looks really interesting because it starts off with, um, that the cop being like, um, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob and Coke being like he is on Fargo, this kind of, um, this kind of nice cop who you wouldn't say boot or goose. And then halfway through the film, he turns into the bloke from nobody and starts

1:45:48kicking a share of everyone. Um, do you remember now? Yeah. Oh, no, I do absolutely. And I remember the, this new trailer coming out. Um, I don't remember putting it in, but I think I was planning to put it in. Okay. Yeah. This, this does look like a creator mind the fun. It looks better than, than nobody and nobody to you, I think. And rather watch this. Yeah. It's going to be into Fargo about it. Yes. Definitely. The, the first half of the film looks like he, he is the cop in Fargo who, who was, who, who's just missed an ice guy and doesn't want any trouble with anyone and wants an easy life. And oh, for goodness sake, don't, don't stir that up again. Um, uh, Molly has Molly. Don't stir that up again. Molly, just leave that. We, we, we can leave that. Oh, I love Fargo. Yeah. Right. Okay. So that's the coming soon. The final curtain. Um, we have two

1:46:49people to consider. Well, yes. Uh, we, we've lost, um, Bobby Carradine, um, who is the middle son I think of, of, of, of John Carradine. He's the brother of Keith and, uh, I think there was, there was Bruce Carradine as well. And Christopher Carradine, yeah, there were four of them, um, of, of John Carradine's first groin of children. And then he had a few extra ones, uh, with David Carradine. Um, and then, um, is that a member of the, is David the kung fu one? Yes. And I think he made a couple of films with Robert Carradine as well. Um, but he, um, Robert was also the, the uncle of Martha Pimp, uh, Pimpton as well, who, um, I remember she was in Goonith and a couple of films with River Phoenix as well. But Robert Carradine was such a, such a difficult actor to pin down, um, in, in a particular type of rule. He made everything and he did it with

1:47:57so much ease. I would say that he is probably best known for the films, uh, revenge of the nerds and revenge of the nerds too, revenge of the nerds three and revenge of the nerds four, uh, where he played Lewis, uh, the bucktooth nerd, uh, with, uh, uh, tank topy type thing, one of those jumpers without sleeves. Um, and he was synonymous with that role. Um, however, he made so many other films that were just completely the opposite end. I'm one of a particular, which I reviewed on my site, um, called number one with a bullet, which is practically lethal weapon. Um, you know, it, it's amazing just to see him move from that, I, from that character to another character, you know, in, in, in a couple of years. Um, and as you look through his filmography, you get to see him, um, there, there was one film called, oh, what it was called, um, and he's, he's got a gruff beard and he is just, you know, action hero.

1:49:06Um, and it's, it's hard to think of him as that. There's, there's firestorm, which he, he was in and then, you know, from John Carpenter as well, it's gay from LA. But he, he can move so easily from one type of character to another type of character. It's phenomenal. Um, I first became aware of, um, Robert Karatine from Camenball, which sometimes called Carquick, which is a, I think David Karatine's in his, yeah, he's a star. Um, and it's, it's like a precursor to the Camenball run. It's much more serious and all more violent. Um, but it's just a big car-chairs comedy. Um, that, um, has a bunch of wack characters trying to make from sea to shiny sea. So it's a bit like Camenball run. Um, and it, it, it has that feel to it, but whilst being more violent and he was in there. And then there was a, a war film with Lee Marvin, but Mark Hummel was in. And I was excited about seeing it because Mark Hummel was in there, because he was the kid and the guy from Star Wars and Village of the Dump. Um, and he, uh, and Robert Karatine was

1:50:12in not two as well. It was a big, a big wartime epic. And it's just bizarre to see Lewis from Red Devented Nerds in all these other films, serious films, action films and that kind of thing. And looking at his, his filmography, you know, he's, he's, he's done over 150 films. He still has seven due to arrive. Um, which are, uh, and all in post-production. So we still have a decent amount of films to go. Um, but it is, it started, did Wayne a bit over the years and, and some of the films that he made in the last 10 years are, are not quite the, the crackers that you might remember whilst he was in Django on Chand. He was also in, shocked to post versus teradactyl. Um, and he started that as well, which, you know, was a, you know, a cheap genre movie. Um, and deep winter and, uh, seven, ten split, you know, these, kind of trashy little, um,

1:51:13direct video films that, but are obviously just, you know, uh, a film for him to, to do a, a paycheck for him and maybe have some fun while he's doing it. But he's worked with most of the career directors over the years. And, uh, and, and, and had a, a wild and very career. Do you know, Mr. Karinning? No, I, I know the Karinning name because of David and because of Kung Fu. Um, but I would never have known any of these other people, including him. And I, and I, I tried to track down some of the things that I knew that he'd been in. Um, Escape from L.A. I've seen Django on Change, you just mentioned. I've seen Orca the Killer Whale. I thought that was a great film. Um, and I've seen all of those, but I think that, and as I go back to the film and look at it and try and track down who he's played in there, I don't stand a chance really knowing who it is. Um, and this is often the case with me, I'm afraid is that I'm not, I don't know these, um, actors well enough to

1:52:16know the, you know, the, the, the, the backdrop as well as you do. Um, but, uh, he was 71, apparently. Yes, he, he, he suffered from bipolar disorder and, and unfortunately, he decided to take his own life, um, because I think, well, obviously, that, that, that must be, um, a very difficult thing to deal with and, uh, and it was a, a horrible thing for the family to have to experience. But I had a look, I look into his, his upbringing and things of course, because obviously, John Karadine is a, a well-known recognizable actor and, um, he appears to be a man with an incredible heart, uh, who, who was married a number of times and had, and there were children involved in those marriages, maybe prior to the marriage. Um, and he, he kept those children. He, he provided for those children and, and he ended up with a, a large family of about eight or nine kids, including, um,

1:53:18some that were his and then some that were, you know, uh, not adopted, but, you know, kids to, to women that he was, he was married to, um, and his second wife, the mother of Keith and Robert and, uh, Christopher, uh, was, um, I had, I, I, I believe, mental problems and they, they hid who Robert's mother was from him for many years and he believes that his, his step mother, that John would go on to marry after having the children was actually his mother until his, his brother Keith told him at the age of 14 or something they happened to, uh, be in the same room as, as their real mother and, and Keith told them that that's, that is our mother. Uh, and that one, I must be something else to have to deal with. But, uh, yeah, it, it was a,

1:54:19a really solid actor. He, during the eighties, he was a leading man and then it kind of waned off a wee bit in the nineties and, and then he became just a, a character actor in, in directivity of films, um, for the, for the next couple of decades with the old starring role, but very reliable, um, and, and decent actor. Well, it's very sad to hear him go out of, out of fairly young age too. So the other name that we lost was Rob Grant, um, who was one of the writers of Red to Worf, not the whole series of Red to Worf. I believe he left after Red to Worf six, seven, seven, eight kind of time. Uh, I went on to develop some of his own, um, some of his own other projects, but, uh, he had written for the likes of spitting image and, uh, and then he and Doug Naylor, um, created Red to Worf and it came from, oh, what was it Dave's, Dave, the holistic

1:55:26base adventure or something that was a radio play, uh, that they had based off of Dark Star, also directed by John Carpenter. This is John Carpenter, uh, broadcast, um, so they'd seen Dark Star wrote this radio play about it and then they decided to expand that radio play into what is now a Red to Worf. And we've had, oh, a phenomenal, much of Red to Worf and, uh, I don't think the quality is still there anymore after Rob Grant left. But, um, yeah, I think a lot of people have a lot of good things to say about Red to Worf. I'm actually most of the way through Red to Worf, what you get again with my son, uh, we're on Red to Worf ten, no, um, so I, I do plan to talk about Red to Worf in the coming weeks, uh, or months depending on how long it takes us to get to the most recent outing. But I think he has panned a new book as well for Red to Worf that, uh, will hopefully be released at some point maybe this year and next, which should be nice to see because he hasn't

1:56:26done too much in the way of Red to Worf since he, he left the, the partnership, uh, back around Red to Worf seven are in. Someone correct me if they, if they like. Obviously Ted, you know Rob Grant, don't you? Not at all. No, never heard of him. Um, but when I started to look into it, well, firstly, I would say that Red to Worf was just not on my radar. I know what it is and I've watched a few episodes of it. It doesn't particularly grab me as particularly funny. Um, and so it's just not for me. I don't particularly go with it. Um, it might be to do with the age I am as well and if I'd been a different age when it started, perhaps I would have been more into it, but um, I did notice from his, um, backlog that he was involved in writing for Carrot's lib. Now it's my turn to leave you out in the code because, um, Jasper Carrot when I was growing up was very much the comedian of the moment. Um, and I, and Carrot's lib was a TV show and I really enjoyed

1:57:28watching Jasper Carrot. I thought he was really, really funny. So there's that. And there's also the TV show that I've brought to the show before, which apparently he was involved in writing for, which is called Pushing Up Dazies, 1984. Um, if you're an America, it's just called Pushing Dazies, but the original title was Pushing Up Dazies. Um, and I don't know, but the Americans decided to take the up out, but there you go. Um, and, um, so, so that show I've spoken about on, on this podcast before and I think it's really good and it's a, it's a kind of mist jewel I think out there. It's really funny and it's really inventive and it's really, um, interesting concept of what's going on and he was involved in writing with that. So good for that. And also I was the right age, I think, for spitting image. And I thought spitting image was fantastic. And so I know that spitting image had tons and tons of writers. So who knows what bit he did and what he didn't sort of thing,

1:58:34but, um, even so, yeah, it's a good credit. So very sad. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. Well, that brings us to the end of that. And the end of the podcast. So thank you for listening, everyone who's made it through the two hours nearly. And, um, just some reminders, garruthmiles.com is where you'll find garruth stuff and, um, writings on what he's watching and other stuff as well. TedSaman.com is where you'll find everything else that we do audio podcasts, mewe groups, all the rest of that projectorroom.co.uk is our website where you'll find links to all the stuff we've been talking about today. And we will see you in the mewe group. We hope where you will tell us what you've been watching so we can bring highlights of that to the shows going forward. When we bring them to you every fortnight, which we shall do in two weeks time from now, in fact, from yesterday. Um, when do we hope you'll join us again in the projector room?