Press Conferences (Malik Hartford) Elite Edition September 2

0:00I mean he's coming to his own. Jim Dull said that for you it's confidence and reps and the most important thing is where you will come from right now is something. Like I said earlier just playing a lot faster. I feel like I'm more calm out there. I feel like the moment isn't too big. I feel like getting bigger throughout the year and when I was hurt definitely helped me. I think the great thing about Caleb is he's such like a likable person, a likable teammate, a great teammate. He will help any of the teammates. He definitely knows what he's doing. He's a great player. And for me he just pushes me to be better every day. I mean with your room being so stacked as this, you guys are piled right? Do you think that there could be the opportunity though for you guys to all see quite a bit of playing time throughout the season?

1:05And not just towards the end of games, mop up doing kind of playing time but like some real meaning for reps. I think that our room definitely has a lot of great players but as far as playing time, that's a question for Coach Lewis. I mean if you guys kind of been prepping for that though throughout the court camp maybe switching in and out and really kind of seeing a lot of room to action. We're definitely we're all getting like reps at each spot so like it's not just a just our abandoned anymore. It's not just you're here, you're there. We're all playing different positions. We're all learning different techniques so it's making each one of us more versatile. So you've been playing so many of the teams. How comfortable do you feel about strong state? I feel comfortable in any safety spot. So I mean the more reps you take the easier it is and I played both safety spots last year so it's not really that big of a transition. What are the differences between the two spots that you have to be used to? Honestly this year they made it so they're kind of they're I mean they're both you have to do each thing in both spots.

2:10So like you have to come down and make tackles at bandy you have to come down and make tackles at just at home. Obviously it's boundary and feel so that the spacing is a little different but I mean you have to do everything that both safes. What's different what's different this camp compared to last camp? For me personally I feel like I have I developed a better routine. I feel like I'm more mature and what I'm doing and I feel like just go out there and play and have fun. I think that's the biggest thing for me don't get too caught up on the last way. What have you added or what have you appeared to your routine? I think just getting here earlier and at times last year you know when it's hard to maintain that routine throughout the whole camp or throughout the whole year but this year it's easier to maintain that because I know what to expect. I know the requirements of me and I know that the team is following. Were there guys in last year for that influence do you to show up a little better?

3:11Yeah for sure I mean everyone is required. BIA our standard is so high that we challenge everyone. It doesn't matter if you're going to play this year it doesn't matter if you're going to play two years from now it doesn't matter if you're a true freshman. You're going to come in early and we're going to put in the work just like everybody else because it's not just the starters that are held to the standard as everybody. It seems like Jaylen McLean's kind of a similar trajectory as you were last year. He's pushing for playing time right away. What have you seen from Jaylen and that's interesting? He's all over the field man. I mean he runs to the ball every play. He hits hard. He's making plays on the ball so I mean he has like I said before he has a lot of potential and I'm excited to see what he does this year. You talked about getting bigger and bigger and you can't put out 25s last year. Yeah. You're able to keep that weight arm and what's it look like to gain even more weight? So I mean through the season it kind of fluctuated but right now I've gained even more weight so I'm at like 195 now. The plan is to get to 200 but it definitely builds confidence when you got to go down there and feel a gap.

4:15Yeah, imagine you play coach to the ball you say can't play. Exactly. Yeah. You were obviously on the long end of a play in that mission in game last year. Just what did you learn from that? I think that coach preaches competitive excellence and that means putting yourself in position to make the play and that means practicing harder. That means taking each rep like it's that big moment in the game and that's definitely what I'll try to do this year. You want to get better and then if you're struggling with some areas you got to figure out why. How are some of the guys who transferred in? How are they fitting in? They're awesome. I can't talk about speaking about them how they've been known as well. Ethan's amazing. He's done such a good job being able to learn the playbook and stuff because it's obviously hard here. It's an NFL style offense. It's a lot to learn and goes into playing the positions we play and I think Phil is also similar as well. He's doing an amazing job as well. So it's been awesome and you know the young guys are coming along as well.

5:15Jake Cook is truly surprised at me. He's balling right now and he's doing really well. Carter's getting there as well. He's doing great. And then obviously though as well they're all just good people that need to be in our little offensive meeting room. It's a good crew that we have going on right now. Obviously last year is last year. It's a new year and none of us have earned anything so we got to go and get it again. If we've been like to transition to being coached by Tyler. He's awesome. Coach Boatlin, he's amazing. Talk about him and obviously coach Johnson and coach Dickey and obviously awesome. Coach Austin Field. Obviously having four guys is amazing because you know it's almost like you have four offensive line coaches. You guys have to end of the day like you have five people on the line every time. And for one guy to be able to watch every play and in and out of the hood on stuff like that, that's hard to do. We're going to be able to just like look at all five and get treat treat. To take them and stuff like that and it's just good having all four of them here because obviously like there's a set of eyes on one or two guys every time for each guy.

6:22They're able to pretty. Everybody knows everybody new last year. Yeah, defensive line right now in the area that's getting you guys a little bit of trouble. Yeah, I mean, Edrick. Edrick and came back. They got a step up just like some of us have to step up. They did a tremendous job and done a great job. And I think the guys behind them are doing a tremendous job as well. I think it was. He's right there. He's grinding and stuff like that. It's been good so far and they're getting better every day and you can totally see it. They're getting some more fitting with coach Patricia's defensive scheme and stuff like that. It's been pretty cool. How much time is your status in life whenever you change from this time of year ago? Yeah. What's the detestment to sticking with you talking for some reason? Yeah. Because I think it's obviously the world's the nifty pay less for me. I'm a big believer in the Lord and just trusting in his mind and leading on him and leading on his understanding instead of mine.

7:23You know, I grew up in a faith-based household and I just leaned on him for a lot of times. And that's what's all about. It's a process here as much as you want to say something different. Like you know how to say, but your time's probably the majority of the people that are free. It's like Jay Jay. It takes time. You're good, but like it takes time for you to play with the guys. You got to learn the techniques. You got to learn them off the scheme. Everyone times different. And that's what I've learned here. It's got to enjoy the process because it's your story not anyone else's and it's going to be different. How much time are you spending at center? How's that split between center and guard? You look at building that pushability? Yeah. I think obviously just what Coach Day said, just the narrowing down of the roster and stuff like that. Obviously last year what happened, you know, like we had obviously Seth and Josh go down and a lot of us have stepped up in different ways. No Carson's long around, a Garmin center. I mean like we're all switch swaps, we're all switch swapping and cross training because we got to do that. You know, like we got to be able to go play different positions. It's one of playing that in a fell coach always tells us there's only guys that travel. So like everyone's got to know a different position because someone's going to go down and someone's got to be ready to go.

8:25What's your comfortable are you at center? How comfortable are you at center? I'm comfortable, yeah. I play a little bit of a Brian and I've been in high school and you know, I learned a lot from Coach Kelly last year. Because I'm obviously coached a line of stuff with the centers and Coach Fry as well. I'm just, I'm getting more comfortable because last year I was doing a lot of season cues and stuff like that for practice with starts. So it's good. Look, are you asking about Eastern? Yeah. I know about my team. Oh, okay, okay. Is your primary position left guard? Yeah, I'm just switching around honestly right now. Hey, look, one last question. After the street's paying through today. You and Tag Room, you know, that was a test to make to it. Yeah, you're right. You're talking about Texas. Yeah, the execution was not playing also. I'm pretty good at making a custom. No doubt. I'm going to make the hard ones that in the mid-stuff and stuff. Yeah, I want to perfectly block play on the game. I'll give you this story, this background.

9:26So last year we ran a lot, a lot of periods with streets and stuff like that. And we never really want to run in the game. So we were always like toss it out. Like, what are we doing? Like this, we never run this play coach. What are we doing, stuff like that? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So we always joke about it. Like it was the perfect play to the perfect look. I'm not sure how much time was on the clock. I think it was like 14 seconds or something like that. So we were getting out there and I'll be lying to you if I said, like, oh, just here we go. Like we're just going to run the clock out with this play. Yeah. And it was a perfect look, you know, it was the perfect play to the perfect look. And, you know, obviously with all the scheming and stuff we do, and obviously running to the place day and day out during that time. What we do now, like... What's the blonde tape Armstrong? It works because, you know, we were ready for it. And you got to be ready for it. And, you know, sometimes coach always talks about just, you know, like when we walk through... Maybe we might only walk through play one time before we play the game. But like, I'm not sure I'll also do that.

10:27And they got to be ready for that. And ready for that certain look that possible can show up. And that's what happened. And we ran it perfectly. And that's just a testament to the coach's continued to stick with it. And that's continued to stick with it. Jeez, Elise. You're with me to think about you guys proving that you was best defense on the field today. Was that a big rallying cry for your group to come again? I don't know. We have a confident group. Obviously, we knew they were at top defense. We don't do a lot of talking. We just like to go out in the field and play and have fun. And I feel like we did that today. Yeah. Yeah. And kind of what you guys do. I don't know if you could... It's huge to be able to rotate, to be able to be fresh. I mean, there wasn't even that many plays in the first half. Even, I think it was the third quarter. It wasn't a lot of plays either. But when you do have that rotation up front and in the back. And it just... Anybody can make a play on this defense. And everybody is training and preparing like they're the starter. And that's why you see so many guys out there making plays. Anything else? We drive right after the charges in the score there.

11:28First one on the first half. Yeah, it was huge. I think the offense, we did a great job responding. And we knew what kind of game it was going to be. So I'm just proud of the guys out there for, you know, responding like we did, especially after this quarter. That first touchdown, like you said, and going down and putting in drive together. It was good. On the touchdown to Calvin, what were you looking for there? Can you talk about what happened and just of course how big that play was? Yeah, I mean, of course he was play. They were just in zone. Of course, and you really just, you know, high low on that, you know, hook defender. The hook defender took GP underneath and Calvin was right behind him. So, you know, a great play call in that situation. Of course, you know, you always appreciate the yack. The yards after the catch that Calvin got us. And of course it was a huge play for us. Big picture. Can you speak to what Calvin and Scottie Miller brought to the offense? Yeah, I mean, those guys definitely stepped up today. You know, Calvin doing everything on offense and special teams as well. And then, you know, Scottie too. You know, he didn't, I want to be played last week. So I'm just coming in.

12:28He had a big third down conversion for us, broken tackle with some yards. So they both played great today. So you guys threw some exo, they were in the first of exotic blitzes that you guys. We're prepared for some of those strikes over the middle. You had the third down conversion and the touchdown. How does it feel to execute something like you guys playing it outside and you got that Those big plays. Yeah, it feels great executing. You know, we were preparing for it all week on, you know, certain looks. We would get in certain situations and, you know, like you said, we did a great job executing it. All lines of the great job today and, you know, holding up and receivers just being at the right time at the right place. Yeah. So when you heard all week that Dan was about to break on the offense, you guys stop. What sort of scoring that shot, but is this what it looks like when that dam is in the process of breaking? Yeah, it is. And I think we've scored one more touchdown if I didn't throw that out of the intersection. So like we say, we're just going to keep working and keep getting better and keep improving. What did you see on that in the center? Yeah, he just matched to stick our way too fast. And, you know, I just shouldn't throw on the ball, you know, got to it. But at the end of the day, either should have worked the other side of the field throwing it to the flat because they were so soft.

13:31You know, just throw the ball away, especially when we were already, you know, in field goal range at the 40 yard line. That can happen. That can happen against us. Do you still like you're improving your detractors' role from the tractor from Chicago days? I'm not really worried about that. I'm more so into improving myself, you know, right? I know what kind of player I am. I haven't changed kind of my whole life. So at the end of the day, my teammates helped me be great. Shout out to them, shout out to our defense, shout out to everybody else in the offense for pushing me each and every day at practice. You know, it's just a credit to them. So I'm definitely glad and just feeling good to be in this position to be honest with you. So, yeah. You talked about improving your three last tries, where it went after the field a little longer. I've touched on them from the clock out. What do you feel like you improved on as this game went on and how did you make some adjustments to kind of strong like you did? Yeah. The first half we didn't run the ball like we wanted to. So, you know, second half, especially late in the game, we had to run the ball. They're running back on the O-line to a great job.

14:31Even in situations where we knew we had to run the ball. They did a great job executing knives and CP. They were hitting the whole great. And, you know, we were getting first downs at the first down. So, any time you can get that run game going. And, you know, this just helps us out overall. Good does it feel for the offense to put together a performance like this again, such a good defense like the Chargers? Yeah, it feels great. We kind of knew what we were up against. Two great edge rushers. And I think they were number one defense in the NFL coming into this thing. So, we knew we had a big test in front of us, but, you know, we have a pretty good defense that we go up against every day as well. So, just going up against those guys on the other side of the ball on our team, just kind of prepared for this moment. And, like I said, everybody came out executed and we put points up on the board. So, it felt great. Did those guys drive make you more confident in the sense that the longer their defense did on the field, you could open up some more pathways to run as well as play action? Yeah, not for sure. You know, anytime you can stand the field as long as possible, definitely tires them out. I think, it was second quarter, maybe before the two-minute warning.

15:33They were glad that we actually didn't run a play because, you know, they were so tired. The linebacker kind of made a joke over to us. It was like, appreciate you all because they were so tired. But, anytime you can, you know, keep their defense on the field for a long time with their run game and with the play action pass, like you said, and have our defense on the sideline resting. That's the positive for sure. Just this is the first time in your career that you won three consecutive games in the NFL. What does that mean to you and what kind of momentum do you feel like you have through the first three weeks of the season? It means a lot, but at the end of the day, it's not just me winning games. It's the whole team. So I'm just happy to be a part of this team, happy to be a part of this organization, and we definitely look forward to keeping it going next week versus Indy. With some more opportunity, do you feel yourself getting more comfortable and more confident within the system? For sure. You know, I think I've just grown a lot over the past few months, really just this year. So definitely feeling more confident and more comfortable out there on the field. So I'm going to say that they read a confidence in you in the second half that you were going to win the game, and they fed off that.

16:34What made you confident in the same? I think we kind of knew. We knew what kind of game we were going to be in, and we knew that we didn't play well enough in the first half. We had a couple of miscues in the first half, and we knew we were better than that. So like I told a report out there, coach T-challenges at halftime to play better and be better, and we came out second half and I did just that. Justin, you said you've done a lot of grown in the last year and a half, where do you feel like you've grown the most or shown the most grown? Just overall, seeing the field, I feel like I'm just very calm out there, cool, calm and collected on the field, and really just that sense of peace out there on the field. And not really rushing things internally in my brain. Just staying calm in the pocket and just making plays when I can and just doing my job. I just see Brother Jones stepping out there. Of course he was benched last week, and this week he comes out, but he was a big part of the offensive line having a good day.

17:39He was part of the offensive. And that situation pops up, he's not really thinking all week that he's going to play, and then Troy goes down Friday. It just shows how prepared he was. He prepared all week like he was starter, and I definitely showed a big for us, especially with this defense that we face showed up you. So big shout out to 7-7 for sure. This is a second time you've had 20 plus completions in your last eight games. Do you feel it? Almost like you're running back in your duchons that you're playing ball where you need to go and you start the final round? Not for sure. Yeah, I mean, I think the biggest thing is getting completions all first, second down, and I'm saying that third and manageable. So I think that's the biggest thing in second shots when they come. So anytime you can get in the rhythm as a quarterback, you just feel that confidence kind of overflow. And kind of like I said earlier, you just feel very calm in the pocket. I think you completed maybe first 10 passes. Does that help you get in the rhythm? Does that help you down later in the game?

18:39I think so. But you know, our game plan was kind of, you know, we knew that we're going to give us completions all first and second down, kind of keep us show over the top. You know, they don't really want, you know, big plays, so they kind of play off and soft. So we knew completions were going to be there in the first, on first and second down. So I really want a big surprise, you know, just pitching catch with the guys and, you know, been making great plays and run after catch. Yeah. We asked if there's a ball start in the home opener and just hold your first impressions of playing here in Pittsburgh and this crowd. And I mean, it was great. Definitely a little bit different from preseason for sure, but the fans showed out great turnout. And you know, it was, it was awesome. It was definitely getting out out there, especially when the defense was on the field. So great turnout by civil nation for sure. What's the success of the run game? What was your thoughts on Cordell Patterson's contribution? He's huge, man. I'm just seeing some of those hits. I'm handing the ball off and just watching them go. I mean, I know I can't do that. So the fact that he's been in the league for this long is still doing that. I mean, it's really crazy to see it to be honest. So he definitely did his thing today for sure.

19:41Just yet to very pinpoint passage one Friday with my drop in the Calvin. Is that accuracy? Something that you've gotten better at? I mean, they were pretty flawless rows right there. I think I've always been kind of accurate, but I might be a little bit biased, but yeah, I mean, just those situations, like Jackie said, I'm just trying to get in a good field, field position before the two minute, but I mean, yeah, definitely, you know, definitely need accuracy at this level for sure. Anyone else? Thank you guys. Appreciate your help. And so hard and ever our tight ends on receivers. I mean, it was just it was a whole after man. That was a great job by the entire team. Does it make life easier when you come out of the gate running the football like crazy? Like the first quarter was like nuts? When you get a quarter like that up on the wall, is that make the rest of the game easier? I think so, man. I think it gave everyone confidence right away, which was important. You know, I think that was important for Malik and important for all, it's my important for everyone.

20:42So I mean, it was huge and it felt amazing. That was fun. How did you, I mean, what were your impressions of Malik like in the huddle and how he was handling the whole... I couldn't believe how calm he was in there, man. His play calling was super clear. He wasn't stressed out. Like you could tell, he was very under control, had his wits about him, did a great job. There was no issues on that whatsoever, which is unbelievable. Like that's amazing. You know, his quarterback rating ended up to be like 126 plus his first 100 yard game. That kind of spurs up the confidence of a guy. I mean, it's got to, you know, our front office and everyone, I mean, we brought him here for a reason. Obviously, he can throw that rock around. And then boy, he showed it today. Yeah. Everyone's got all the confidence in the world and that was fun. Just in general, it was probably our bread and butter and Detroit and glad it's the bread and butter over here. So, you know, this is, this is not going to be too hard of a transition and things like that are right up my alley.

21:49And then finally, you know, Matthew Stafford, I know you had familiar with him, you're a rookie year, but watching from afar, what he was able to do in LA and, you know, we saw him kind of get back to help being healthy last year. As someone who is going to be protecting him, how do you describe him? How would you describe what he's good at and what you need to do to protect him? He's in Detroit. We caught him the wizard. You know, he could figure it all out. And he can make anything happen. And, you know, I'm excited to be able to protect him and, you know, let him make us look good and make plays happen. Thanks, Joe. And congratulations. Thank you. Adam. Hey, Joe. Adam, we want to kind of register. Congratulations. Thanks Adam. Appreciate it. Yeah. I'm curious. Kind of look the process looks like, you know, you agree your terms about two hours into the pre-agency. What do those two hours look like? Who are you talking to? You talked to anyone, the range personally. It's like just what do those hours look like for you?

22:54Actually, me and my wife, we were just sitting at home and like the, I guess, 12 o'clock hit. And we were like, we thought it was going to be like immediate, you know, mayhem and kind of sat there for like 45 minutes of my age and was calling me. It was like, what do you think of Los Angeles? And I was like, I don't sound too shabby. And we talked about it. And, you know, this sounded like the right move, good weather, good place to be, good winning culture, great staff. And, you know, just everything overall was just a plus. So we couldn't deny that. I know this kind of nature of business. What is it like, loaded, make a decision like that? Like such a like altering decision, like Adam such short notice? Yeah, I mean, it is, it is pretty crazy, you know, just the amount of timing you have. But, you know, you kind of have a, I don't know, I've been on the outside looking in at this place for a while. So I kind of had a general idea what's going on. And a lot of familiarity within our building, like, Brad Holmes, you know, he was from here.

23:55So I kind of got to feel the people that, you know, they they've been around and how they run things. So I kind of got a good feel about how it be here. Thank you. Stu. They showed us to Jackson from the rain. So I can't be the one you meant my fellow Jackson brother. What's up, man? Hey, what's up? Listen, that you spend most of your football career, whether the college or obviously the NFL now in the Midwest or East Coast. So now that you're here, what's the light just being out here and, you know, being in Southern California now? I will say the weather is beautiful, you know, it's excellent. And definitely going to miss the East Coast. You know, I've got a lot of roots there. The Midwest, you know, I've started a lot there, but not like new beginnings and no better place to be here. And I guess what did you notice about just this offense from afar? I know Jordan asked you about some of the specifics with schematic carryover, but, you know, beyond that, beyond Matthew Stafford, what it would appeal to you about being a part of this offense and being a part of this team beyond those things.

25:02Yeah, just, I mean, a lot of similarities on what we do, you know, the gap scheme, play action and, you know, having to drop back, you know, I'm comfortable in whatever we've had. I've had eight. This would be, I think nine now, nine different offense, a coordinator since I started college. So I'm comfortable on whatever it doesn't really matter. But, like I said, the pieces to the puzzle were, you know, incredible, whether it's the wire receivers, they're running back the QB, the O line, the defense, you know, it's, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a it's a pretty good team over here. So I'm excited to be a part of it. Thank you so much. Appreciate it. Gary. Hi, Jonah. Gary Klein from the last time. Sarah, thank you, Gary. I'm curious to think what was it like to be part of, you know, a lion, a human organism, a human being, doing that, urge last season. And what, if anything, are your memories of playing against the Rams in that wild part game at Fortfield?

26:06Yeah, you know, being a part of something, you know, and the trick were for so long, the city was dying for a winner, and being able to bring it there and, you know, change the trajectory of everything and bring some light to the situation. It was awesome. And there's nothing like it. But, you know, when you, when you face the LA Rams, you know, they got it, they got a special defense and, you know, up front they, they got the guys, you know, so, being able to be on their team now makes it a lot easier. Sarah, Matt. We're happy to be with you, great. Hey, Jonah. Great to be with you. Congratulations, man. Thank you, sir. Appreciate it. In free agency, how did you weigh the opportunities in terms of second contract really important? I mean, that's your money. You got to take care of that. But you also talked about how you want to be in a winning culture. You wanted to be a player who you could succeed with a team, with a culture. How did you weigh those things and how grateful were you that an opportunity, I guess, arose with the team within established winning culture with all this kind of stuff? I mean, yeah, once I heard the Rams were willing to, you know, do what they did and be able to go somewhere and potentially win it all.

27:13I mean, there was no denying it. There was, there was some teams know maybe we could have done some more, but I wanted the perfect balance of being able to, you know, set my family up for life and be able to win football games. You mentioned that the Rams have like, you know, they have a good reputation. What is that reputation that other players on other teams, you know, they don't have a direct connection with the Rams. Think about the Rams. What, what is that? What is that vibe? Well, I mean, you just see it from the outside. You see that the quarterback and he's second and none. And, you know, just all, like I said, the pieces to the puzzle are just incredible. And then you see Coach McVey and how they run things and, you know, it's, it's a approachable approachable place you feel. And you feel like it's somewhere you can get settled and pretty fast. And that's why I felt like it was a good fit for me. I think my sciatic nerve and different things going down my leg and it was, some of the worst pain I've ever, I've ever dealt with. It was not a fun. I mean, it hasn't been fun. This week, last two weeks, it really been the first couple of weeks that I've really been improving and feeling better.

28:21You know, those first few days were really tough and, you know, it's been testing my mentality and, you know, been testing everything. Because it's hard to deal with pain, especially how these last few years won and how good I was feeling and coming back from the hand and having, having this adversity that I've overcome and then just getting hit with this random thing. I mean, of course, it's not random. Everything happens. Nothing just happens for no reason. But, yeah, it's, the main thing was it was a glute strain. And it just was, a lot of doctors were unsure because the pathology and the pain kind of, it wasn't really matching up. But I had some good conversations with some other doctors recently that kind of assured me that that's the only thing that's going on.

29:26Like, a million scans, kind of see if there was anything else going on, everything's clean, which overall is a good thing. But, you know, you're kind of hoping, like, man, I wish they would just find something so we can work on it and get it better. But, yeah, I think I'm finally over the hump. It's definitely not 100%. But I've played feeling worse before. Were you in pain just sitting watching television? It was the first few days, first week was just brutal. No sleep. Couldn't sit. I still have the medicine ball at my, or the exercise ball, the house that I stole from here, because that was my only safe place was laying on the medicine ball and like that fetal type position. I mean, that first day after the flight back was insane. I was laying in the training room for probably six hours on that ball.

30:29Couldn't move, try to get up and do some treatment and no position work. Still, I can't really sleep. It's last this week has been better, but I still, I'm a back sleeper and I can't really sleep on my back with the glute. But I've finally been getting good sleep. Feel just comfortable moving around. Feel much better out there, starting to feel more even on both my legs. I was able to, luckily I was able to, you know, stay on my feet, stay on top of my upper body lifting so I feel strong. My weight's good. My, my legs are coming back so it was, it was tough and, you know, I think, you know, the adversity I've dealt with over the years has only made me stronger and has helped me learn more about myself and kind of the things I need to do to, to be successful, you know, at this age,

31:29I'm not a fresh young rookie anymore that can get away with doing some things that I could, could back then. So, you know, I kind of definitely hit a low point dealing with this, but, you know, it's made me stronger mentally. I've been doing all the work I can with, with all the tools I have and the people around me. It's not only helped physically, but, but helped mentally and I think when I look back at this moment, you know, when you're in it, it feels hopeless sometimes and you're like, man, I don't want to do this, I listen to that, but I think I'll look back at this point and, you know, all these injuries that I've dealt over over the last three years and I think it'll be, maybe not a blessing in disguise, but, you know, an important part in my journey and my career that, you know, helps me take those few extra steps of things that maybe I wasn't doing before

32:43because I didn't have to, but this kind of has pushed me to, you know, be the best person I possibly can, not only physically, but mentally. And, like I said, I've learned a lot about myself and what I need now and, you know, I'm just grateful that I have a great, great team around me, my family, my trainer, everybody here. My therapist, Roger, shout out. He's the man, he's helped me, you know, through a lot of tough times in my career. And I don't think, I know for a fact that I would not be standing here or be as successful as I am without all these people around me, so I just want to, you know, thank everybody, including my teammates for, you know, having my back and not pushing me and just being there for me and knowing that I'm doing the things I can to try to get back and be the best teammate I can.

33:50And I think, you know, I don't have much time left in this game. You never, you know, dealing with stuff like this makes you realize that it can be over at any moment. And I just don't want to take anything for granted and I don't want to look back and be like, should have cut a wood. So I think I have a few years, maybe hopefully, hopefully a few good years left. And I just want to do everything I possibly can to take advantage of my opportunity. Or at that low point, what did you, what were you thinking yourself? Did you think this was the end? Yeah, no, I mean, your mind just tends to ruminate and go to the future, go to the past, so what if I did this, what if I did that? And when you get into that state, it's just important to kind of reel it in and take it, maybe not even a day at a time, but a minute at a time, an hour at a time. And I know it's pretty trendy to talk about being mindful and staying in the moment, but there's a reason it's popular because it's really important.

35:01And you know, when you're down and you're upset, you're not going to be thinking rationally and making the correct decisions. So just be able to reel it in and be mindful and take it one day, one minute at a time. It kind of puts things into perspective. And if you do the right thing, one thing at a time, eventually you're going to get to where you want to be. When the injury happened, it was on that first play. Yeah, no, I was not feeling great going into that game. I think that was the start of it after the Carolina game. And then that very first play, my left leg gave out and I just got absolutely planted in the ground, which I'm sure you're all of you, so I must have maybe strained it worse then or something, but I knew I wasn't able to finish that game. I definitely didn't expect it to be as bad as it has been.

36:05Even when I was in a lot of pain the first few days, I'm like, all right, structurally there's not anything that's too crazy going on right now. So maybe in a few days, this will calm down and it'll feel much better. And then it just kept dragging and dragging and dragging. And you know, here we are for five weeks later or however long it's been. So it was tough and you know, everybody's dealing with injuries. Everybody's dealing with something. Like sore warming up and like who's not sore warming up right now this point of the year, even after just week one, it's a tough league and a tough game. Yeah, I'm just happy that I stayed the course and I'm starting to see the other side. So you came out of the Carolina game feeling something in? Yeah, I came out of the game feeling good. Like the actually, right after the game, I was like, man, felt good, got limited reps.

37:08It was really hopeful for the next week and you know, those next few days just felt weird, felt like there's something going on. Didn't really think that it was the day after the game. And I didn't really think it was going to be any any problem. You know, I lifted as normal. I felt good. I didn't practice like super hard that week. I wasn't feeling amazing, but I definitely didn't see this coming. And you know, I went into that Steelers game with not a lot of confidence. I was really nervous. I'm sure if you watch me run out on the field, usually I'm flying off trying to be the first one out there. And I was like, this might not go well today, but I thought I'd give it a shot. And I figured out pretty quickly that it wasn't going to go well after that first play. But yeah, like I said, I'm just happy that I didn't let those, you know, dark thoughts or dark times kind of get pulled at me and keep me down because I mean, this bad is football gets.

38:16It's, I mean, it's the greatest thing that I've ever been a part of or ever, ever done. It's the best. The only thing I've ever been, you know, great at. And I just want to take advantage of my time here. And it's running out and it's running out for everybody. And time doesn't just doesn't stop. Just keeps freaking moving no matter what you do. And yeah, like I said, I just want to look back and be like, man, I'm happy that I did everything I could to, you know, make an impact. And, you know, be the best player ever can be. I think whoever's in the room, we just got to keep up, keep that stand. What was the most memorable part of the playout? The Texas game was a good game. I liked it. I liked how we put that game out. But obviously the match from championship just, just when the clock hit triple zero, you just feel like a champion.

39:16So probably a national championship, but the Texas game is probably my favorite game. I just, that experience that quite a run. It feels like my junior high school, my senior high school, my state championship, my junior and I just, I just remember to fill in just one. It's so bad again. It ended up coming up short. So I think you just stand on the guys and just stand on myself to do everything we can and just go back to back. It's going to be very hard and we know that. So I think you just got to support. What is it? Obviously climbing up. Just the bulls iron back and I didn't really do much. You got to go BS, you got to be the buck ass wherever you are. So I think when we go out there and BS, there's just really won't be any problems. There was some talk from the leaders about taking down a couple of banners and not wanting this year's team to think that they're champions, kind of building back up in there. Why is it important to do that? Kind of not allow last year to a championship? Because most of the team didn't win anything like the freshman class. They wasn't on the team last year. They don't have a national championship.

40:16And most of the guys are like, I wasn't a starter last year. So I want to start. I want to be a bigger regional while we're in the national championship. So I think most of the guys that we have on the team this year, we really wasn't champions. You didn't too much do anything. It was most of the seniors that gone. So I think it's just on our own. Like you really just want something for our own. Which receiver or receivers are we not talking about enough that you're out there covering? Who should we be talking about more and why? I like. I like. I like. I was in a lot of my. I like my. You just move. He's just very smooth. He's a good player. He's a great man. I know. It seems like every time we're out here, you're one of the guys you're always celebrating plays. You're always bringing a lot of energy. Like, how much do you do that? I think I think a lot of guys can feed off of my energy. So I just try to give my energy I can and just encourage out of the other guys and encourage even some of the older guys that's here and I just have as much experience on the field. So I think it's just giving people the confidence. I think confidence is the most important thing about this game.

41:22Confidence is where it needs to be and you feel confident to do your job. It's going to do. We can go with us. I kind of got thrown out there for a fire as a freshman. Some great moments. What do you think is compared to you to be ready to play as a freshman? It builds. I think just taking every day. Coach is just telling me there's always stay ready. I think just taking every day. Just like that you're going to be out there and just prepared that you never know when that play is going to come. You know, like Texas game I played the whole second half. You got to be ready for that. If you just sit in the center of silence and think that you're not going to play and think that I'm not going to get in this and that. Get tough for you and then that's when you just your mind start playing tricks. So I think just being prepared and standing ready at all times. What do you think about it? Last question. I think having this is how you handle it and really as a freshman. I think he looks better than me even when I came in and the spring. I think that was going to be a very good football player here. You just have to just come on with the little things but that was going to be a great for them. I just did.

42:22I think I was a little more raw as a prospect. He's coming out. I think he's more put together. He's a big refrain. I think he just he has a little bit like, oh no, I just playing it but he just I like it. Not really. I mean it's a long season ahead of us or me. I'm just taking the day by day. You don't see many true freshmen make that the game for you. Play it in the national championship game. What's the key for you to stay hungry to continue to grow and make your zone? I mean just something to me. I mean just because I made that one play. I have that year after that. I just can't get big headed. I always feel like it's one for improvement. I feel like you just got it. That's one thing. A lot of people mess up one for like, oh they have one good year. Okay, I'm relaxed. That's not any. I'm a no-continent doing for years and years to come. I feel like to myself for sure. What do you know about that? It's important. Of course you party no big. It's all received just like me. I just came in and kept it set. Now I'm just working on my high BCS future here at Ohio State. Probably going to be no next one for sure.

43:23What's it like seeing all these like the national championship banner and seeing all the new signage. You know, you played a huge role. I mean it's no subclass. No, the same play. No. A role and no. The night he run that we had as a true freshman. But no, it's time to move on. I mean, that's behind us now. And I can't wait for this season to come up. What kind of obligation do you feel to a guy like me? To be kind of like me when you're waving, showing how you work. I feel like he already got that. Just coming in. He already got that hard work at the quiet. Just like me as I came in. Just all about ball really. I mean, he ain't here early. I mean, spend the time on Coach Hartline meeting and everything. He doing it the right way, I should say. And he have a bright future here. Coach Hartline said he wants you to become more of a good player. Yeah. He said, you are now on a brand new year. I'm going to be a good player. I'm going to be a good player. Coach Hartline said he wants you to become more of a good player. Yeah. He said, you are now on a brand new year. He's a good player. Yeah. How much for a challenge that you are kind of a quiet guy? Yeah, there's a challenge. No, just no stepping out my comfort zone. I mean, something everybody wants to see for me. Not just my coaches, but players on the team as well. We have a leadership meeting. There's a lot of people call me out on. Just saying they want me to talk more. I'm working on it. Takes time. Not really a guy that's talkative. I'm working on it.

44:23I'm working on it. I'm working on it. I'm working on it. I'm working on it. I'm working on it. Takes time. Not really a guy that's talkative or no, but lay by a zombie. But one thing I'm definitely working on is trying to talk more and get more of my comfort zone. And just build it. Is that open with? Yeah, for sure. That's definitely the biggest challenge. I mean, I can say just that my comfort zone and the guy is leading the guy as well. You guys open with Texas next year. Going back to the playoff game. Do you think about that moving forward just kind of how you were taken out of that? Oh, yeah, I think not really think about it. I mean, that's behind me. Maybe one of the game. We ended up going to the national championship. I mean, we see it on week one. I just know can't wait to face a great opponent. What's your impression of Devin Sanchez so far? Yeah, big on corner. Corrine. Physical. He got it all. And I can't wait to see things he do here this year as well. What if you know his difference? Are you think different about this defense of these first three weeks of spring?

45:23That's a culture ride. They just fast. Physical and willing to hit somebody. I should say saying they nothing really changed for me. Guys, they'll go no do they've been doing over the last year and a half. And so in the year and a half was I should say. Coach, that makes the quarterback is live like he did for a couple of practices last week. As a live receiver. Gardnell, right? How do you think your quarterback is responding to that? Over authoring. I think there was my first time in the game. Over authoring. I think they responded pretty good. I did not expect the quarterback to be live in a scrimmage. That surprised me for sure. Coach, they definitely surprised me with that. But I feel like they handled it very well. They took hits. Something we need. They needed. I should say tough enough. Right. Why are receivers going all the way about quarterback seeing how they handle that since? Obviously not a norm to be that. Learn anything. No, but it's definitely not known to see a quarterback get hit. It gets his no defense, I should say. But no, guys, they was getting hit for sure, but they was getting right back up.

46:26So command. Who knows if I'm for that. Two more questions. What's that? Definitely can't get better. No, no, it's a lie. I'm getting complacent. Always want to prove that. No, I'm just taking the day by day. And just getting better each and every day. And I'm not why do you prepare for this group name? In the expectations you're going to get on an X2 season here. Not the season you just had. Not really focused on the espacation that I have coming up or the year after that. No, just focus on spring. Spring and you know, just going to follow count. And just get ready for the season as you say. Espacations go be there. Not really. No, something high. No. In my mind right now, I'm just no. Being leader and just focus on the team. Jeremiah, how much changes is right? Probably. I don't really know. We haven't really spoken about that right now. I don't really know. What's that? Jeremiah, a lot of guys just said that they want a lot of championship. They don't want to see it. It's moving into the CS2 and the team. What is how important is that for you?

47:27And why do you think that's significant for the team? I mean, like I said, we can't live in the past. The club, the 2014, they won the national championship. This year, we did it. So, I mean, we just. I mean, we just. I mean, we just. Take everything down in the weight room and everything. So, no, we could focus on being ourselves and. No. This our season. We had the opportunity to win multiple times. And for us not to, you know, get it down to suck, man. Honestly, I'm actually looking to this. Into this loss and the frustration and try to move forward. Because you've got to buy week. And then try to turn the season around. What's that balancing? Yeah, I mean, it's tough. But, you know, we got to. You know, I mean, that's all we can do. For, you know, what is our problem, which, you know, I don't think it's hard to see. And, which is, you know, just executing, you know, and hone down on our assignments. And, you know, just get the job done. And, you know, we got to buy a week, you know, rest up

48:30and get ready for San Francisco. Yeah, a couple of top plays at the rest of the four. That would be an interceptions. But you're able to mount the drive down the regulation. What is your confidence that you know that he would bounce back and be able to reach you in a way that you didn't get that final drive? Yeah, total confidence. I mean, he's done it, you know, again and again, honestly. And, you know, every time we go, we take the field, you know, again, the huddle. You know, I know we're going to give our best effort. You know, I know if we give him time, we run the right routes. We know we're supposed to do. He's going to put the ball where it's supposed to be. And, you know, that's all we can, you know, do. But yeah, we have total confidence when we go out there. We just got to stop beating ourselves, honestly. Should you rather have zero yards in a win, but you just had a career day? Well, I just want to, what you take from that is quite the loss. Man, I hate losing, you know, I'm saying whatever. I rather win, you know, 100%. You know, my confidence level, you know, it's always been the same.

49:31You know, I've known that, you know, I could break out and have an amazing game, you know, whenever. But it's the wins that count. Can you kind of walk us through the last touch down there at the time of the game for you? I'm taking the big hit and everything. Yeah. You know, corner out, you know, through a perfect ball. Had to put it really back shoulder for me, you know, to make a play on it. And, you know, just made a play on it. Just about it. You know, that is kind of, so what do you have to catch in the game? What do you have to catch you thinking about absorbing the hit of the second ball that you've played? Yes, sir. You know, I make sure, you know, I see my surroundings, you know, some guys trying to take your head off. So, you know, yeah, I do. But I think, at the end of the day, when I see the ball, it's about the ball and catching it, you know, that's my job. And, you know, I consider all those things, but, you know, getting the job done is first. The port in five, they set that up. What did you guys see on that play? Port in five, something like coverage, you know, and saying, be, be your man catchable.

50:36You know, guys on that team, we knew they were going to fight their ass off. And, uh, it's a heavyweight balance, an asshole championship. That's what it's all about. And we knew we were going to have to take some shots and, uh, you know, keep swinging. It's a perfect deal. It's a perfect deal. And that meeting that you guys had, the edge of the race is easy. To him, to stand in front of you guys, a whole team, and you're vulnerable like that, and to make changes, what is it say? I mean, it just speaks to how great a coach is. I think a lot of coaches would have, you know, had a lot of self-ego, thrown in that meeting. And, um, he didn't at all. I mean, he loves us, you know, all of us like, with his sons. And we felt that form, you know, that loss, you know, we knew that we had a rebound like we did. Um, I mean, I can't say enough, like, how much he means to me, and standing means to me. The way he goes about business, and we don't, we don't go about it. Like a lot of teams do about fear of losing your job. We go about as a family, as a lot of love. And, uh, we knew we had to execute him, and we did that tonight. How happy are you for a coach today? You know, and how close you are, you were his first kid, right? It's a brand new building. I'm happy good. Yeah, I mean, it's a dream come true. Like I said, I mean, God is so great.

51:37And during that, it took us down, and, uh, it took Coach Day on this family on, I mean. And then I'll be curious like we did at night. And then I'll say I'm sorry. I mean, it means everything to us. And, uh, the scene, I have the success, you know, it makes me so happy. I know, I just saw the smile as a wife on her face, and, um, stuff that she ever do, and it's gonna be an excellent stuff. And that guy in Clarence, who wrote, it's terrible. And, uh, to come out tonight, and win this game for them, it's awesome. Yeah, he dropped a Recon of Burrana. It was a championship for bust. All that he's experiencing with this team at any point, you know, that it was the best thing to do. You know, we knew what the expectations were going to the season. You know, we knew that we're at a high estate, and, uh, the top of hand every year, as if you're not competing for a national championship, or not doing your job. So, um, you know, what never at Burrana, it's kind of a motivating factor. You know, do what we're doing right now. We just did, and, uh, we just left, it's something that, you know, you can't put in the words on what they mean. So, we never looked at it as an emergency, but it was an opportunity, and we did that just tonight.

52:37Check, you dropped your name in the microphone. You dropped it a championship. When did you sense that? Well, look, we never thought it was going to fight to the end. But it didn't just, you know, during the season, it was during the season you felt that you felt that you did. I think that before the season, we knew that we were capable of a national championship, just because of the guys we had and the coaching staff. We knew that we were capable of this, and, uh, through all the ups and downs, we were able to persevere and keep fighting, keep swinging coach day-to-day, always says, and you got to fight your way out of bad times and, in life, and, and as a player, as a coach, as a family, really, for him, you know, he's got to fight himself out of bad times, and he did just, uh, made the adjustments, made the change that had to get made, and now we're champions. So, like I said, God is so good, and the journey brought us on was amazing. Hey, Jack, I believe I was last week to send your debug guide, honestly, group and picker, and, uh, when did you allow yourself to think about what this moment would be like, and what it would mean for your legacy at Ohio State that you could get this done? When did you allow yourself to think about that? Yeah, I know. I mean, honestly, I haven't still even thought about it. I'm just so happy to be able to celebrate this in the squad, guys. It's not about me at all. It's about this team and the coach day, and the city of Columbus has been waiting for this for a long time for 10 years,

53:40and, uh, now, I'm just so happy for this group of guys, and the stuff that we went through and heard, and we keep getting up and keeping shadow of the practice and going as hard as we can, and, and approaching with a positive attitude and trusting that God's plan, and, uh, you know, here we are in our national champs, and they can never take that away from us, so, um, just so happy that we will finish our job, and, and we're, uh, you're a jack now that is gone. You're a jack now that is gone. What were your thoughts right there, Jack? You said that again, please. It looked like you kind of dropped your knees at one point, and, uh, we're giving some kind of thanks or whatever, but what was going on in there? Yeah, I was just thinking God. I was thinking God for all the ups and downs, and my career, and, and everyone else's career, and then to end it, this way, it's so special. I mean, you know, when you put your faith in God, you know, He says it's not going to be easy. It hasn't been easy for any of us, and, uh, you know, we kept trusting Him and, and believe in His plan, and here we are, national champions, you know, when, I don't want to say all your guys didn't believe it, but, I'm sure you guys, you're doing the thing we did the job, and, uh, we can November, so, um, here we are, national champs,

54:40so that it feels great to say. Who brought those regards? Who brought those regards? And I think they did just that, and I think for us, we just had to go out there and just accomplish the, the plan, and, uh, whatever play was called, whatever maybe, just go out there and execute it. Um, one thing we've been preaching is, execution is, is, uh, really the motive, um, you know, anything may be called, but, as long as everybody's mindset is, has one mentality, which is, uh, just go get it, and, you know, make sure there's no yard gain. I think that, that changes the, the mindset of everybody on the silver bullet defense. Did they feel like big changes to you all, as they were ongoing, or? Uh, I mean, at first, like, you know, it was a tough loss, so, you know, as any of you felt like everything was big, and, you know, it was kind of just take your time to look at everything, analyze everything. It was just like, man, we just, we just need to keep anything simple, um, make everything, and just, uh, just about us, and, you know, not, like, feel like we're, um, you know, making everything about them. It's, you know, we can dictate what they do,

55:40and I think that was the mindset. Did it make? Let it render off? Yeah. Uh, JT, I know you get to watch a little bit of video, uh, of Caleb and, uh, Lathan and Jordan. What stands out about that group from your, from your vantage point? They're respected. They're relentless, man. I mean, Lathan, uh, Caleb and, I mean, everybody in that BIA core, um, yes, they can cover, but, you know, when it's time to, you know, stop the run, they'll come down 12 yards out, however, however, however far off the front line, scrubb is coming, you know, though the nose in there, and, you know, I respect them for that, because, you know, there's gonna be times where we need them, make them tackles, and, I mean, they're displaying it this whole season. Yeah, how critical are they in a game of this magnitude? Obviously, everybody's critical, but you know what I mean? Yeah. Sort of the last line of defense, but sometimes the last line of defense is in the middle of it. Yeah. I mean, they play a huge role. I mean, like you said, it takes everybody, uh, from the front four. It's like a check reaction. The front four don't do their job, then, you know, it falls, you know, the back end, so we off to work as a collective unit. And I think there's a reason that there's 11 of us out there, and, you know, it's crazy if one person doesn't do their job, then, you know, something can go wrong,

56:41but if we just all continue to stay, uh, communication will go on the other, uh, continue to just lay each other, you know, we have each other's backs and just trust one another. And man, I think that, uh, that performance is going to be off the charts. For the right, Kelly and, uh, Stitz, WSWF. DT, how would you describe the mentality of the defense right now getting this opportunity for a rematch in the world in? Yeah. Uh, hungry and thankful. I mean, uh, we know how the last, last time when, you know, we, uh, we had to chip on our shoulder. I mean, we were riding high before that game, and we took that loss, and we came back, had to make a couple changes, but I think we understand what, you know, everything's that stick right now, um, you know, uh, just fighting to where another house, stage, or for the next game, that's what's on stake, and just, uh, be able to represent this, this, uh, this state and this, uh, this team. I mean, we understand what's, uh, what's on the line, and, you know, we're just hungry and blessed that we get this opportunity to play in the Rose Bowl. Right behind your Adam King, WBNS. What do you remember most about walking off the field in Eugene? What was kind of all your lines in that moment? Uh, just, uh, I mean, there is, uh,

57:43I don't think anybody imagined it, imagine us losing, um, you know, I didn't, uh, that's for sure, and I think after that, it was, uh, kind of hit deep, uh, understanding that, man, we still, there's still a lot of ball left to be played. I mean, you can let it sting for a little bit, but, you know, if you let it carry over too long, then, you know, there, there goes, there goes your whole, um, season, but I think we did a great job of just understanding, coming together in this room right here, um, not being afraid to display, um, or hold accountability for one another, and, you know, as, as that happened, we came back, we grouped, and, you know, we're just, we're just going right now, um, and, and I'm just blessed for those specific moments, you know, losing. I mean, no one wants to lose, but the, the testimonies and the things are taught within those little situations speaks of all of you. Spatial over, letterman girl. Hey, Jay, what did you see from Kenya? The last couple of weeks, that, was there like a push from him?

58:43And, yeah, there were many conversations with him. He seemed like he was playing some special points, and see. Yeah, I mean, that's, that's my boy. He's in the R2X club, too, but, um, you know, uh, Kiyada, I mean, every time there's, his numbers call, he goes out there and makes the, the most of it, um, no matter, uh, where, where we at in the game, when he goes out there, he's just hungry. He wants to go make plays, and, you know, we see it in practice, so it's, it's not surprising to us. Bill Rebino, it's a bonus this batch. Dylan gave us obviously a very elusive and a talented, and he's not very tall. Um, how important it could be to just kind of stay in your past rush lanes and neglect a lot of balls and, and kind of make a difference that way? Yeah, I think it just, uh, comes out and being disciplined. Uh, no one who you're playing against, like you said, Dylan, he's a, he sure, but he's very elusive. I mean, he can, he is making throws. I mean, he get out the parking, do everything. Um, so I think for us, we just have to discipline him and just continue to just, uh, meet with Coach Jay, meet with, uh, Coach Knowles, and understand how we can, uh, just eliminate that.

59:44One more question about you and Jack. I mean, your personality seemed to be a little different. You're more on the quiet side. He's, he's not. Yeah. How about you? You've played together four years, both five store guys, kind of describe your relationship with him, uh, friendship with him, and just kind of how you cop with any other. Man, that's, uh, that's my brother, like he said. Um, we're different, but very alike. Um, I think outside on, like you said, he's louder, I'm quiet, but you know, once we're on that field, we're like the same person. Um, we're, we'll do anything for this team. You know, we'll, we'll die for our players and we'll give everything we got. Room together for four years, correct? Yeah. Fall camps. Every room. Yeah. Sometimes go over there. So over there. So yeah. The neat one, who's the messing one? Uh, we have our share of days when we, when I'm neat, he's neat. Or, you know, we might both be messy, but we do a, we do a good job. Yeah. Uh, I'd probably say I would better kick the jack though. Tony Gertman, like I held. Uh, when you're playing a team for the second time,

1:00:44and that was almost a season to go by now, how much of, are you at square one with, with this scouting and preparation? Or how much do you take from that game? How much do you avoid taking so that you don't have any creativeignotion to much of going up against offense on the offense blind? I say it's, it's pretty 50, 50. I mean, uh, that game, like you said, it was, it was a while ago, but at the same time, they elevated as a team, and so did we. So we understand that they, they had, they made some changes for sure. Um, you know, there's, there's a certain density we can take back from that game, but we also understand that, um, they went on a little run after that, and we can see that they elevated as an offense. So we just got to continue to watch those games, dissect the other games, and just continue to see, um, what stands out and what they changed from the, for the past game. We got a couple calls on zoom that will wrap up with, uh, first we have Nick Hamilton from nightcast media. Nick? Uh, just wanted to ask you basically about the synergy of this defense

1:01:44and how you guys were able to, uh, not only celebrate the triumphs, but get through the adversity, be able to be this top-notch defense that you are in college football today. Uh, here, feet, the question one more time. Yeah, no problem. Um, wanted to ask you about the synergy you are able to develop over course of the season, obviously celebrating the triumphs, but also getting through the adversities to where you go all, all the top-notch defense that you all are today. Yeah, I mean, like you said, that we went through a lot of trials to trials, um, but there's also, there's a lot of things we can take away from all the wins and losses. Um, and from those, those wins, we understood that, hey, we can be the best, uh, defensive of the country. And from those losses, we understand that there's still, um, things that need to be fixed. And I think when you take all that in at once, um, they come down to the, the common goal or the common topic, which is you can, there's always learning points everywhere. And depending how we dissect those games or how we just continue to come as one and, uh, elevate, um, you know, we, we continue to just, um, collect all those,

1:02:45those learning points and just continue to grow from them. And one final question, Joey Coppin, Columbus Dispatch, Joey. JT, uh, what, what have you guys done better in the, especially in the Tennessee game and just late in the season, you think about turning some of the, the pressures that you've got on the quarterbacks and the sacks and getting home in some of those situations? Yeah, I think it was more just, uh, understanding the defense as a whole, understanding everybody's job, uh, thing as the season went on, we got to understand that, you know, we have to know what's going on in the back, can we have to know what's going on to, the linebacker crew to understand, uh, what plays we have, uh, room of freedom. And I think once we understood that and got a better understanding of the, of everybody's job, I mean, it, it showed this play because, you know, everybody knows what each other's doing. It's not like, uh, the linebackers know what they're doing, uh, and the corners and B.I., they know only their job. I think we all know each other's job and we continue to ask each other questions, um, on, you know, if they're listening to how they can get to the quarterback,

1:03:45and, you know, if I'm dropping, playing quarterbacks, but I can ask Cody on how to open field tackle it. So, you know, we just, we just kind of lean on each other's understanding, because, uh, you know, like I said, like Denzel knows how to play corner-bedded, then I know how to play corner. So, you know, he has more, more wisdom at that position than I do. JT, thank you very much. Thank you. Thanks, man. Yeah. He's, he continues to grow and to grow and to grow. Um, like I mentioned, again, the line was another guy to, not only tight end position, but tight end on Ohio State. Um, I mean, playing out of Ohio State in general, I mean, that's a, you know, it's a high standard, but then to play the position of tight end, it's not easy. And so I've seen, um, Jolani take big strides on and off the field. Um, I think, same with him. I think he's just going to have to continue just to put those days in back to back to back and, uh, same for him. He'll be able to look up one day and be excited for where he's at. He's very talented. He's very gifted. Um, God has given him a lot of great abilities. And I think, um, it's just his job to put into the work, put in the work and he'll look up one day and he'll be excited about where he's at.

1:04:47Um, yes, yes, I was really from over camp. How much do you try to push him along? Yeah, I think when his, his freshman year, I was doing that a whole lot more. His freshman year, I feel like every two seconds, every time I turn around, I'm trying to correct him and get him an alignment. Um, but I mean, man, he's, he's, he's taking steps. He's taking steps in the right direction. Um, I'm proud to see his growth. Did you remember the both of you? Yes, freshman year too. No, he didn't job me nuts, but. Did you drive him nuts? Nope. That's my guy. Gee, will Howard, president of experienced any side of him? When you're out there, do you feel that he's seasoning on the field and running with my feet? He's throwing the football? He feel like he notices where you're at at all times. Yeah. I mean, not particularly. I feel like I trust that he's going to do his job. Um, I feel like he knows his reads that he's going to go through his reads and he's going to get the ball. Um, to who he's supposed to get it to predicated on the play and the coverage that we're going against.

1:05:47And, um, he's done, you know, he's done amazing things in the field this entire. I mean, even going back to spring, he had a great summer and then, um, to see the kind of player that he's really growing into even this camp has been great. And so I have to just trust and faith that he's going to put the ball exactly where it needs to be. All it's my job just to go finish the play. Did you go back and look to see how much? Like when Will Howard transferred over, did you go watch check him out at camp? Thanks so much. You get there on the tight end? No, I haven't. It was Ben, Ben sent it, right? Yeah, no, I haven't really checked it out. I know he was a great player. I know he's somewhere in the NFL right now. Um, but no, I'm focused right here. Um, building camaraderie with him right here and putting up, putting good things on tape. Will, first walked in, do you think he was a new tight end transfer? Yeah, he was big. Yeah, I think he's lost like 20 pounds since he's been here. That dude is a big boy. Yeah, what is his presence? I mean, how does it show up out there? Yeah, he does a great job, man. I think that's, he's grown to be one of my great buddies, Subjoron. He's grown to be one of my, you know, really, really good buddies. I'd say one thing with him, he does a really, really good job of, you know,

1:06:47the ability to turn it off and turn it back on. I think when we're off the field or having fun, you know, he's one of my closest friends. But then when we're on the field, he's locked in and he's, he's ready to roll and he's able to take the lead of offense. If you could tell, you're lying, Thermon, one thing that will get him on the field more often this year, what would it be? I don't know, where do I start? Let's see. I don't just keep doing what you're doing, you're doing good things, man. Yeah, what is showing out about him? I guess in this camp. Yeah, I mean, I kind of mentioned earlier. I'd say, you know, like I mentioned, God's giving him so many great abilities. I'd say ultimately the ball is in his court to take full advantage of that and ultimately bring the best out of himself. I think that's one of our missions as a culture is to fight to be the best versions of ourself. So I think if he continues to do that, he's going to be excited about where he's at. What do you like about this one game? Everything. I like the mindset behind it. Maybe not as much, you know, X's and O's is great. But I love the mindset that we have about our intentions running the ball. We're not just running the ball to be flashy, but we want to be downhill.

1:07:48We want to have a place in our football and just impose our will on teams. That's kind of our mindset going into playing games. That's our mindset going into practice. And ultimately we believe practicing that way is the how we're going to do it on the field. What's it like trying to do that against this defense? Oh, they bring it. The defense brings it every single day. It's a constant iron and sharpening iron. Another matter who's in, ones, two's, guys are good. The guys are flying around. They're playing fast, they're playing violent. But we're often we're going to bring it. Did Chip Kelly, how did it become obvious to you that there was going to be a little bit of a new approach to the running game? Mindset, what do you want to call it? Was it a big meeting or is it just y'all got out there in practice and hey, things are different? You know what I mean? How did it show up, I guess? No, I mean, I wouldn't say there was any catastrophic event. I think there's a mindset shift. Like we want to run the ball. We want to be the most physical, fast team in America. Running the football is, you know, it's pretty universal wherever you go.

1:08:48Every team's going to run counter. Everyone's going to run zone. Everyone's going to have, you know, it is what it is. The mindset going into it, how efficient are we going to do what we do? And I feel like I'm very excited about, you know, the mindset that we have going in and running the ball. That we want to be tough, we want to be physical, and we want to impose our wills on the team that we play. You know, will at Ohio, right now, Chip's sweet, have you guys, I did not know that. You guys, do you ever talk about that? No, I'm not, I'm not just asking about that. I had no idea that he did that. That's hilarious. He is fast for a big guy. He is. Yeah, he moves very well. You're sitting here, what, less than two weeks away from the start, what your last season, right? Yeah. Do you feel like this is the year, I mean, you know, where you contribute even more? I mean, just what's your mindset? Yeah, I'd say my mindset is to ultimately be the best, the absolute best teammate inversion in myself that I could possibly be this year. I think if I put in my due diligence of studying film, practicing hard, and laying everything out there,

1:09:49I have faith in the Lord that he's going to take care of everything else. I don't feel pressure of numbers or stats or things I need to put on tape. I just know that my absolute best, my greatest effort will be enough. Whatever happens from there, it's working for my good. Can you faith this driven you a lot in your game in general? How does that really help connect the team off-bends and we keep fans clean and come together for your final season? Yeah. I would say I've seen the Lord working a lot of ways on this team and just bringing guys closer. And it's good to have that common ground with different guys on the team when things may be rocky on the field, or things may be rocky in the classroom or in the film room, whatever it may be, to have that common ground that we understand that the Lord is working the things that we're going through for our good. And that we can just continue to keep our eyes on him in the midst of rocky times where we're in the valleys or we're on the mountain top. That we just keep our face from. All right. Chief, back in. Yeah. Back in you?

1:10:49Yeah. We're up in Christmas. Okay. What do I do? Good. Good. I just got lost that up with the carers. It's okay. I just got lost that up with the carers. You got your laundry, throw them back to the old line. Oh my god. It's all right. I'm getting the day. We've got to put them in zone. We're not doing that. We're not doing our job. Are you guys creating more explosive plays as an offense? Right. I think you stick with it. You know, the explosive plays are going to come and now we just got to trust that and they'll be there for us for sure. Coach Sins has been here for highs and lows over the many, many years. He's been with this program now. What sort of his message to your group right now or when you're turning to him, what is he saying as far as how to get through this? Yeah. So I think it's just really just coming and attacking every day as you would, regardless. And staying, staying even, even through hardship and attacking it, attacking it the same way every day.

1:11:50That's really all you can do. And you just get a little better every day and see where it takes you. Based on the way things are already we're setting up, but then also the way Jason Simmons was calling the game on Saturday. It seemed like tight ends are going to be a big part of this as you guys are trying to pull out. And what role do you think you guys are going to have in trying to get this offense? Yeah, I think we, I think the role is always try to help the offense move the ball. And whether they were called upon to do that in the past game or the run game, we just got to step up and do our job at a high level. And whatever you ask from us, we just got to do it at high level and let the offense go. You're some of leaders on the offense. I would say Gus is a big leader. I mean, he's been doing it for a while. And someone that everyone trusts is going to do his job at a high level. I think we have Hudson's a good leader too as well. Obviously, he's a quarterback, so he takes on that leadership role. And I think we just have a good amount of leaders throughout the offense.

1:12:55You were told George might be fairly close to getting back what would mean to get him back in the mix with the tight ends. Yeah, it'd be great. I mean, George is a great athlete, so having him out there can only help. You know, we're really excited about him and what he can do on the field, so it'd be great. I've always known so it's all getting better and improving things that were big discrepancies in my game. Did you see that? Obviously, we've used some dominant jacks in Josh Ryer, but a lot of guys back in the national championship took the right U-N, and Daniel's just really about the depth of the overall. I mean, it's an amazing thing. We're all pushing towards it to be great. It's competitive, which is, I mean, that's the best place to get better. Did you see Gato Howe State, or they see Q-Other? No, I was definitely thinking about how it stayed. You did? Yeah. And how did you know you had a shot that even come here? You know what I mean, Ethan? How does that work in the portal? Honestly, I really didn't know. I was just kind of a hope thing. I put a lot of prayer to it. My family and my agent, my old coaches at Rysan, they're really helping through the process.

1:14:00Without them, I don't know whether I'll be here right now. Yeah, but by the grace of God, I ended up here really grateful. Obviously, Justin Fry was the coach when you came here. What was that kind of transition like of him leaving in a time of going coming in? I see it was pretty seamless. I see some of them are incredibly good coaches. They both know what they're talking about. They're really tuned into the fine details. So, I mean, I wasn't worried at all. It was just business as usual. What are the biggest things you'd like about playing for Coach Bowen so far? He's a really good communicator. We meet a lot and he's really good at just kind of putting out the fine details and how you can prove your game and then when it comes to different skills and everything, how do I find to win it through practicing everything? Would you please sign two more questions? I guess I'm trying to live by being the hardest working person in the field. That's why I want to spend the most time watching films, spending the most time

1:15:03after practicing getting an extra work to and more of that edge. I feel like that's how I would describe myself. What do you think about the conditions and what do you try to do? Well, I can always be better at a lot of things, but just really for working on the thing. That's the biggest thing. That's the biggest thing. That's the biggest thing that's the biggest thing that's the system that's working on. You talk about rough dropping that weight and the weight. You say that's the best thing. Is that an adjustment playing that weight you're hearing? I feel better. You feel better, okay? So you didn't lose any strength? Did you know you got to lose better? I knew and then I'm talking to the diet dishes and everything. How's your diet change? Well, I focus a lot more on getting the right macros into my meals. That was really the biggest thing. The biggest thing about losing weight is diet.

1:16:04It's like a lot more protein that's part of stuff like that. Not should be. All right. Thank you. Thank you. All right, y'all a good day. But yeah, every game is, there's always one moment where you like, if I did do this in the weight room, you get better at this, then I won't be in that situation. So pretty much every game. You guys defensive tackle, how's that going to be? I was really good. Not to set a stone just yet. We've been rotating times to see what best works. And we've been all driving at the same time. You see yourself in this season. Was that about the physical stuff? Was that something else that you were doing? Most of the game was just into the position. That was the main thing. Just seeing everything. But Tally, you really have a lot throughout the process. Tell me you're better at getting there. Go in after him.

1:17:04Go in after him. Tell him if you're getting there. Next, bro. What is your name? I'm Tally. I think you're really kind of less than me. Really? He told me. Main thing he would tell me was stop overthinking it. Just block their play. And that really helped me because you know, new position. Trying to find my rare stuff. So it was pretty good to give assistance on it. Is there anything that you want to do like the physical stuff? I'm, uh, three-tay. I mean, the strength wise, like I was saying, and speed gets those words. That's really helps me a lot. What were the conversations like when this first came out, that you possibly think, who were you talking to? What was it like in your mind when they asked you about the tension? Well, I talked to Coach Jay. Coach Jay was the main one. He wasn't forcing me or nothing. He just said, if you want to move inside, you can't. If not, you still did, then you can't do that as well.

1:18:04But I saw that I could help the team out. Get some death right there. So I told the moving side. Okay. That was the thing that we really wanted to change. David Vikes? Yeah. Oh,�. I see it. I remember Jack, JT, Tileek, every time I'm to a great leaders, ordered off the field. They're helping me with just simple stuff. Like if I didn't know where to go, get something down, they'll tell me, or they just like hanging out with a dude in the closer, just a lot of different small things that got brought us closer to like last year. They already started going this year. I haven't started yet, but I'm gonna give a turn.

1:19:04You feel them? Yeah, I feel like, uh, maybe we teach them how to read it that anybody can be a leader no matter what year, first year, so I'm more junior or senior, or even if we're walking, everybody can be a leader, just, um, yeah. Instead of winning, it hits you last year that, yeah, this is great technique. This thing can work for me. I mean, don't need to get, you have to grow into it. I had to grow into it a little bit. Um, it's very new, especially playing D in my own life. Right. But I had a colleague help me, like I said, throughout the whole process. Yeah, when did it really strike you that I could be a factor? Oh, you know, what game or, you know, how do I win the two-field comfortable on this or anything else? I would say closer to us to playoffs, uh, me and my colleague a lot, uh, I felt comfortable. I okay, I can actually do this because he showed me some strengths I have, like, see him, like, see, you can do this, and, uh, that really helped me get the confidence and know that I can. Yeah, but then you became a factor. You know, uh, basically through the playoffs and stuff.

1:20:04What did mean to you to be a factor that early? Uh, all the word of God first of all, to keep me healthy, to keep doing that. But it's been a lot that Coach J, trusted me enough to go in and the big games like that. And I'm new to now. We have produced. What about your skillset, do you think? Good so far. Uh, definitely speed and strength was my made to. I was saying, will help me in the inside of those guards. I think that was really right inside. But you were actually really, you wanted to be a, you know, interventional right? So what's the, what changes in the mental age? It's just realizing your body's taking you there. What is the moment for you to, what character are you going to take it up to? Definitely my main thing also, uh, and so I thought the interview, talk about some of those interviews I said, the main thing was being a team player and moving the three teams was going to help the team. I was really moving to say anything. It's the competition. Jason and Will and Timewan.

1:21:05Aiding from the team. It's a different team. It's very competitive. We, we all come in trying to see where we need to get better. Uh, just to keep moving forward. So it's pretty good competition and I love them. But uh, and you made the move like during the biweek last year, is that right? What was the toughest part about that whole crash course? Uh, really meant that I really embraced it. Uh, I knew that, uh, I made the movement side, uh, in order to help out the team. And we asked really great years last year, that you know, and uh, JT Jack came and carried him to the game. So it was pretty good. And then moving the three-take, I also asked them down there while, uh, still been able to showcase what I got there. Did you feel like you, like, just needed to get done quickly? Like, did you feel like pressure to get it done quickly? Because you needed to be ready for that next game? No, they, they were, um, all in on me, just whenever I'm ready. Just let them know how I feel about moving in or something.

1:22:05Did you just get asked about, you know, these are three freshman now. I was in the room with you. You played as a freshman. So it takes a little bit of pressure. So you, you're trying to raise those guys. I think you should think that they're going to be the same. Uh, Jack, where I was chasing all the guys that came in, uh, they, they continued to work hard every day. Uh, even if they don't get it the first time, they don't ask us, uh, what are they doing in this situation to help me out? So, uh, the, the ability to keep trying to learn from people that's playing in their big stage. Uh, that's the word really going to keep them going. Were you surprised how quickly things did start to click free? For you inside, just, given you said they were going to be patient with you. But by the time you get to the playoffs, you're, you're playing like that. Was that the surprise how quickly it just kind of happened? I'm not really. I knew once I got it, Jose was going to trust me a lot more than to keep going out there each and every time. So, uh, I appreciate them. Uh, like I said earlier, thank you, Lord. And thank you guys. All right. Thank you. In, in that vein, obviously, some different guys doing things at guard.

1:23:06I know you were obviously focused on being attacked, but how much ownership do you take on trying to get some of those guys ready for what will be obviously a tough challenge? Normally, this game will potentially down the road. Yeah. Um, everything with the guards, I try to get my input to because, you know, for, um, really three, three years, I played that position. And so I was like, look like, um, what you're doing is not working this way. You got to do it this way because I've had experience to join against, uh, next to really good tackles and next playing at a really high level at guard. I was like, uh, I can help you out with this because I know what it's like or taking my experience of playing next to Paris. I was like, this is what I did with him. And we got to be on the same page in terms of double teams because if we're not on the same page, then that's how we get split. And that's how, you know, we work against each other and there's no movement. So trying to get on the same page with the guys playing next to me and the guys on the other side of the line to try to perform at the highest level. Uh, if we're all right, uh, Cameron D. Robinson, the athletic, Duncan, I know 22,

1:24:0722 didn't necessarily go to death rate, but after that mission, I'll also seem like building that game because we're playing on the free a lot more of our loose. What experiences can you take that lead to this lead up to obviously want to win this game for just to play free and play on one loose end this game? Yeah, I mean, um, playing free and playing loose is a lot better than playing uptight. You know, um, we're just focused on playing as fast as possible. You know, our coaches put us in the right position to do so. So it's our job to execute it in terms of what happened, you know, was it two years ago? Yeah, two years ago. I can't really speak on it now because I'm where you always have it now. But, um, you know, it's just, uh, playing, playing with the brothers next to you, playing for the man next to you and, uh, not trying to let him down rather than your own selfish successes what we're all aiming for. Right in front of him, Stefan Krasnick, cleanland.com. Seth is a guy who's, you know, had, had the playup experience. He's also probably stepping this tennis CT in years past.

1:25:07Maybe more so than anyone. How much kind of as a coach now is he been able to help out these, you know, last few weeks, whether it be Michigan, we've been out letting up the tennis team? Yeah, you know, um, he helps out as much as he can. He's always here, you know, um, you know, maybe not in the outdoor practice. He hasn't really gone to those, but, um, um, the indoor ones, obviously in meeting rooms. He's, uh, he's a, um, a really insolval person. He's always helping out Carson, always helping out the guards because, yeah, you're right. You know, he's played against the team many times, being at his former institution. Uh, he's just given us, uh, insight on, uh, what we need to do, um, to compete at the highest level against this, uh, D line, because obviously they're a great group. And then, uh, just helping us improve as best he can. So, you know, he's still just as involved as he was, um, before the incident happened. He's just trying to give back as much as he can. Second, we're right. Bill Landis, games of the North. We've seen, we saw a Loot play center, some in camp. I know I played some tackles, you played some Jumbo tight end.

1:26:07What in your mind would make him a good guard for you guys? Uh, I mean, all of that is just versatility. You know, I feel like, uh, Luke is, uh, versatile enough to play, uh, plug and play anywhere we need him to be. And, uh, he's, uh, had some great success at guard in the past couple of practices. But, um, he, uh, he's shown, uh, a great ability to anchor and, uh, being able to, he's been playing stronger in my opinion. So, he's developing the right, uh, direction. But, um, we, like I said, like we just need to write a step up at this point. Because, um, even, even the younger guys, like we need them to have the mindset of that. They could play at any time. Because it's unfortunate what's happening. But, like, we need everybody to be able to go. Uh, Frank Roe, Bill Rebenowitz, Columbus Dispatch. I don't know when you started the year playing your normal position behind our next two, uh, the first one big at Josh and, uh, the guys who are not to be the rimmington trophy winner. Um, both of those guys are going to be on your playing a new position. Tell me what it's been like on the offensive line for you, um, especially having played the Michigan game

1:27:09and that didn't go well. And now we have a chance to do everything you wanted to do. I mean, what's the mindset of the off the line right now? Yeah, I mean, it has been easy. You know, you lose, um, the best center in the country. You know, it's, everyone knows he's the best center in the country. He's a brain of the operation. He, um, put his position to succeed. And obviously you lose, uh, Josh Simmons, who used the lockdown tackle. Like you didn't have to think about who was going against you. Like, you know, Josh got it. Like we can worry about what we got to do everywhere else because Josh is going to handle this stuff. So now we got to, um, take a step back and be like, okay, like, where can we attack to put our guys in the right position? Because, um, what we did before is not what we can do now. And so, um, we got new guys stepping up playing and they're playing at, uh, at the time, at, uh, competitive level. But we got to put guys in the right position to succeed for, uh, games coming forward. And we, uh, we didn't execute, um, nearly as well as we wanted to last game, obviously. But, um, we, uh, it's a beautiful thing about football, beautiful thing about the playoffs that we have another opportunity to go out there and play.

1:28:12Uh, Austin Ward, podcast. You think back to, you know, we mentioned in camp. Maybe Austin would have to fill in for you in the short term. Like, what advice do you have? And Zen goes into the line at, then Carson comes back in. You have this now with Luke. Is your conversation advice communication the same with all four? Have you had to tweak the message? I'm sure you're tired of having to keep going through this process, really. Are they, are all cases the same? You tell them the exact same message no matter who it is or different depending on each of those four guys. Yeah, I've gotten really good at giving motivational speeches, um, this year. But, um, uh, yeah, it's, it's always different. You know, with, with Zen coming in, um, uh, what will start at the beginning with Austin going in, um, it was like, hey man, you're fine. Like, this is the same game you've been playing just in front of a lot more people. You know, you've been doing it all for a long time. Just keep doing what you're doing. Then when, when Zen came in, I was like, look man, I'm here next to you the entire time. Like, you're not doing this alone. Just communicate and we'll be eyeed. And, um, it's, the message changes varying per position.

1:29:12Everyone takes messages different ways, but, um, the end goal is all the same as just to play absolutely hardest and worry about the result later. And final question, Tim May. Yeah, I was wondering, is there a common theme when you're going against a talented defensive front like, you know, the previous game and in this one with Tennessee that, uh, they may not, they may not be as tricky because they're, they're really good players. You understand what I'm saying? I mean, it, it can sometimes win one on one battles and stuff. Just, what does, gotta be the mindset against going against a, uh, a defensive front like this one? Yeah, I mean, uh, um, the defense from going against Tennessee is very talented. You know, they rotate a lot of guys and all those guys can go like they're relentless. I don't give you a time to breathe because once one guy goes in another guy goes in and he's just as good as the one that just came out. So, uh, the main message is just, it's just to, uh, uh, strange, strange, about all, man, get out. You got one year one on one. Like you said, like, um, they're gonna, they're gonna play you.

1:30:14They're gonna play their defense and it's our job to execute our offense. So a lot of respect for their front. I feel like, um, obviously that very talented guys on that front across the board from interior to the edges. But, um, we just got to execute what's called to the best of our abilities. Thank you, Donovan. Thank you very much. Thanks, man. Me having that opportunity is good and, you know, I'm gonna, I'm always gonna come out here and compete. Like I said, I'm putting myself at the bottom so I'm working, I'm gonna work every day like I'm at the bottom and I gotta, I gotta get to the top. How, well, what do you feel like it's gonna take for you to get from the bottom to the top? You know, just, just discipline. They're big on discipline here and, you know, competitive and excellent. So, it's just staying consistent every day, just doing the rights, having little to none mental errors. That's gonna give me on a sale. And, you know, I do, I do what I'm supposed to do. That's, that's gonna give me on the field. How do you manage those expectations for people to think that you should be playing week one, what season comes around? How do you manage people basically? You know, I don't really let, let me get to my head because, you know, like I'm here, you know, I got dudes in the room that are, you know, like I GD, you know, he's gonna be a three-year star.

1:31:20I got your main, a person from all American, you know, he's gonna play the shit too. So, I can't let what people say on the net, you know, get to me because, you know, anybody can say, oh, he's gonna play this year. But, you know, I actually got to prove it. So, I just got to come out here, you know, work, you know, and that spot. What's the most important thing you've learned so far in your three months here? Um, competing every day. That's, that's the biggest thing. Having to compete, you know, these guys appear. They take winning and losing to heart. So, you know, my first, my first week up here when we did our competitions, you know, I was winning, did I ask you, I got that first loss on my belt and, you know, it kind of opened my eyes to like, these guys take it to heart when they lose. They don't like it. So, you know, I kind of got that now where I don't like losing. You had the opportunity to be around the team for a VAT, you know, CFP Ron. What did you learn from Just Goast II being seeing this team make that run? You know, being real tight with your brothers, you know, they're real tight. You know, they push each other, you know, it's a real brotherhood. They don't let nobody down. They always got each other back.

1:32:21So, I mean, it's a new team now. So, you know, we got to build that chemistry with each other, you know, just get tight. And I feel like when I was there for that playoff running and I practiced, when they were at the National Championship, you know, I just got to watch, you know, how guys are, you know, real locked in. They're close with each other. They're not letting nobody slack off. And, you know, I feel like we had the opportunity to do that with this team now. How did you handle Luke? You handle that first loss? That first loss, you know, it kind of got to me. It was the IGB. You know, he, you know, he let me hear. So, after that loss, I was like, nah, I can't let this happen anymore. It's because it's like, now it's not high school where you used 17, 16 years old. And if you lose, you lose. Up here, it's not. If you lose, the coach will see that. So, and they're going to see how you respond to it. So, I feel like I had to, you know, open my eyes, I had to go and go in there and lock them. Like, yeah, I can't let this happen anymore, you know. So, I got to go up and, you know, these guys are counting on me too. So, it's really important that I don't lose. If you hadn't described yourself as a competitor, how would you do that? I'm a great competitor, you know. I like winning.

1:33:22Who does win like winning? So, I mean, winning is, it's in my blood. You know, my parents taught me that at a young age, you know, going after a competing for anything that you want. And I feel like if you can go out there to compete for, you know, as yours. And if you compete for it all the time, who don't take it from me? So, I mean, I'm a good competitor. I'm always going to go out there and try to take what's mine. If it's out there, then anybody can have it. And I'm going to be the one who's going to get it. There's some role-makers in your room, obviously. Are you a talker? What would your natural, personal, or anything else? Yeah, I mean, it could come out on me, you know. But I don't really, I really know my game through the talking for this part. But, you know, if it gets there, it gets to that point where, yeah, I can bring it out. Because, you know, regardless, I'm not just going to let nobody just come out here and just, you know, catch balls on me. So, if I'm having a good day when I'm consistently getting T.B.U.s, yeah, I'm a talker. But, you know, being in that room, you kind of got to talk. You know, you know, you got IGB, you know, those real talkers in that room. So, it kind of makes you want to bring it out. And, you know, when you bring that out, that just brings energy out on the whole defense. And when you got the whole defense clicking, I mean, you can see what happened.

1:34:22Is there anyone that's kind of a competition you have? It was during the winter. We were doing, you know, just stuff on the field. We was just having the time of the field. Just a lot of competitions. So, I mean, he just kind of, it was a day where, you know, they had us going up again. Just a freshman. And then they kind of threw us in there and fired against the older guys. So, we had to, you know, we had to wake up and, you know, we all kind of lost. And it all kind of like, we all kind of can't get that professional group like, what are we going to do about this? Cause, you know, some of their kind of mess to step up in those roles. Is that kind of you're welcoming the college? Yeah, definitely, definitely, definitely, my work in college moments. You know, you know, just showing that, you know, it's real now, a medal, Ohio State. I'm not in Houston, Texas, I'm wearing my school. Far from my family, you know, I got to wake up, I got to grow, I got to mature fast. And, you know, I just got to get ready for the next level. You've mentioned high school a couple times. How did, you know, grow it out there in Texas, playing at that level. How do you feel like that helped you prepare for Ohio State? I feel like you prepared good, you know, I feel like I went to a powerhouse in Texas.

1:35:22We obviously ran the Houston area. You know, we've been running the Houston area for a long time now. And I feel like, you know, we're a real college program. We live just like these guys who do the same this. You know, the level of ball I play, the highest level ball in the Texas 6A. You know, we're going against guys like Dunkin' Bill, North Crowley, those top schools, you know, receive the coin more I go against. And I want to get some three times in my career. So I mean, those that really prepared me for this level, you know, coming in like, okay, this is not where it's a little school where, oh, they don't believe that I can come here and make an impact. I came from big schools, so they're counting on me to make an impact. You know, I think, I mean, everybody would say Texas is one of the highest football players in the country. You know, they go as Florida and they're probably Georgia. So I mean, they're counting on me to be ready and that level of ball prepared me real, real well. How'd you do against DeCaurie? You know, it was when lose, when lose. You know, I went something, he lost something. So I mean, it's just getting better on a shot from higher.

1:36:23Because, you know, he's the top receiver, obviously, in our class. You know, I feel like he's going to have a good impact at the working. So, I mean, it's just, it's just, it's just, just, you know, what's going to happen next? Looking forward to seeing him again? Yeah, definitely, definitely. I, you know, I plan on planning against him. We don't, we want to see him this year. Hopefully we see him in the big team championships. So, you know, I, I want, I want, I want to rematch him. DeVa, you committed super early in the process six months after that. You shut things down when, quite frankly, someone of your caliber didn't have to do that. You could have, you've seen kids play the game a little bit longer than that. But you chose to not do that. It's kind of a lot getting here. Why? You know, because this was, this was, this was where I felt this was home. You know, I didn't really feel like, you know, standing Texas was a good thing for me. I didn't, I didn't feel like that was home for me. Up here, I just felt like it was home. You know, because of all, because they, you know, they're making it, you know, making me feel important up here. And then, you know, like you could ask, because what, how many times I came up here? Do I, my high school career, I came for 13 times. So, we got to the point where I was knowing the guys on the team.

1:37:24I had the numbers just like that. When I come up here, you know, I don't got to always build the coaches. I can go chill with some of the guys on the team. So it's just, just me, you know, knowing what I want to play in my college ball at, you know, knowing where I felt like it was home and then, you know, it was also my parents too, you know, my mom being, you know, feeling safe that, you know, I'm up here, you know, I'm handling the business and not having to worry about me. When she goes to sleep. All right. Fifth row of medals, Stephen Leonard College football fouls. Yeah, kind of piggybacking on that. How much of it was there offensive line being a strike that our team versus Dylan Gabriel being able to escape and the lack of pressures that we had on our defense? Oh, yeah. I mean, when you got a good offensive line, I mean, it makes it even better for a quarterback, you know, being able to roll out, you know, that your line was going to help you protect you when you're in the pocket. So, I mean, it makes it easier for throws and it makes it harder for us, honestly, for having a good offensive line. So, I mean, like I said before, just being able to attack the offensive line, attack the weaknesses and be able to go after them and make it harder for the quarterback, maybe it's harder for them or world. Four to four right.

1:38:24Andrew Gillick, believe in Doc Brown. What's the challenge similar to Tim's question? And, you know, when you play a team like this that runs the level of RPOs that they do that was in the last two years. How do you stay true and be aggressive and force the issue where, you know, Dylan Gabriel is really going to make it up for you. Oh, yeah. Like I said, just putting pressure on him, I mean, do you be able to get it back there? I mean, we got a lot of different plays that can help us get back there faster in playing and playing to their tendencies, you know. A lot of times they have the RPO, the RPO helps them out. It means you get the ball out fast. I mean, things like Jackson and JTB, you know, get their hands up. Knock the ball down. Crazy stream. I'm out of pressure for the quarterback when you got hands in your face all times. And final questions. Bill Rebeno, it's Columbus Dispatch. We've asked about Dylan Gabriel and the receivers. They're not one dimensional. They're a good one back in Jordan James. What makes him special and what's the challenge for you guys? I think he's definitely one of the better running backs in the conference of well. I mean, just how hard he runs is it's hard to bring him down at times. So I mean, as a front pro, we probably stop in the run. That's the first thing we're going to do as we go on the game.

1:39:24I mean, past rushing is good and all, but we can't stop the run. I mean, they've been running the ball there and throw all the time. So all the time we have to figure out how we're going to stop them. We're going to run the ball and then we're going to take them down. So I mean, it's our job as a front pro to go on there and stop the run. We're going to make them one dimensional as we go out there. So I mean, if you get out there every time every mindset, we go out there and we're going to get them. We're not going to allow them to get in the yards, allow them to get going. We're going to stop them. We're going to make them throw the ball. What JT was up here asked him about how to compare contrast him and Jack as personalities. What's your take on that? How different are they as just personalities? I definitely think Jack is more outgoing. I mean, the guy he needs, like the light that shines around me and everybody goes around him and everybody loves him. He's an outgoing guy. Come to you, shake your hand any time of day. And then JT is more of the blue guy. I mean, a lot of guys gravitate to him. He just has a bright smile on him all the time. He's just a great guy that people like to be around. They're two good people, so it's hard to tell. And Ty, I do that one more question for you. Tony Irvin, by God help.

1:40:26You guys obviously have faced stuff while you did it last week. What's the key for you as a defensive one in facing tempo? Yeah, I mean, we've been going through all week in the past two weeks to just get set. I mean, that's the first thing you do. If you're not set, it makes it harder to do your job. So let's be able to get on the ball, get set before they're lined up and set the ball. It's one and more important thing. So when we're set, we're able to do our jobs at the efficiency before they can do theirs. How difficult is that? It can be difficult at times. You know, you gotta look to the signline first. You gotta get the call. I mean, the call has to be set down first. It can't be difficult at times, but that's the definitely what we've been working on the past few weeks. You just get the call, get the call early, get set, so we can go and be play faster. Is there a time where you're like, you've changed the play to one side of the field. And now it looks lined up, they're gonna be heading to the other side. So like, you've got to just run the signline to signline just to get the money. Oh, yeah. I mean, I have been a lot last game, you know. It's hard. It's definitely tough. I mean, that's what we work on and practice. Just moving as fast as we can, we're simulating these things so we can get into the game. It's a lot easier. So we move it around side to side, run around, do an extra conditioning just for moments like this.

1:41:28Time, thank you very much. Alright, thank you. So the games, you know, so you know, the guys is definitely getting off that ball. So definitely excited when I'm playing with those guys. So are you pleased with the pressures on them? You got to get the section one usually when you get the pressures those acts will come with them. Yeah, they're gonna come in. I ain't too worried, you know, just keep playing my game and just keep doing what I'm doing and then I know they'll come. Does it feel like the pressure is dead effect? Alright. I definitely did. I think he reinforced in completion, he reinforced in interception. So I think it definitely had a hand on the game for sure. Dennis said that, you know, a lot of people that were down on you all last week are now praising you all this week. Is it hard to kind of block out that noise and not get too high or too low or is it easy? It's pretty easy for me. I don't really listen to none of it. I'm just locked in, like, you know, tunnel vision blinded on and just doing my thing. Are you hoping now that deep offenses will pay so much attention to a long detail that it priestesses?

1:42:33Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's just, yeah, then that play that we ran as a great play, great call by coach. You know, we kept sticking with it. Man, that boy, that boy, he did this thing. You mean one of the sacks, he ran behind you to go get it. Did you pick with him about A and you took my quarter back down? Nah, nah, you know, you know, sacks, sacks, you know, they worked a lot. So I'm glad he could pick them things up. What does that, his performance say maybe about his skill and how have you seen him like as a player? Yeah, I mean, I'd say a great player, fast, physical, you know, just loves ball. I think he's very good and I think he's going to have a very good year. I know you all probably haven't really gotten into a game plan to fulfill me up, but just kind of thoughts on Dagon Dallas and his kind of initial take on them. Yeah, I mean, we know the, you know, good team, you know, discipline team has great players. But, you know, I think we are that too. So I think it'd be a good match up in the, I guess we're going to see.

1:43:39After many things have picked up, going against him over the years? Yeah, you know, I ain't tripping over my car boys for real. I feel like just in terms of, because I played in my whole, most of my whole career, going in the same week, you know, watching him, and trying to put, you know, trying to put ourselves in the best position to win. And watching him for so long, do you kind of carry some of that rivalry still with Dallas? Not just more of a, you know, knowing what those play them, you know, multiple times. You know, knowing what those guys are about, knowing that we have to put our best foot forward. So there's not that much extra motivation to go get a sack on deck, even though you're playing too many times? Motivated to get a sack of it, so that ain't, that ain't the one just doing that. Your pressures were like a team high, to come in right away, like, to, one, like, did you feel like you could make that impact right away, and what does that do for the rest of the defense when you are performing at that level? Yeah, man, you know, I know what I can do. I'm very confident in my ability, and I know what I can bring to the table when, you know, I go.

1:44:45So, you know, I'm happy I can help the team, the way I'm helping the team, and my job is to keep going. How much does the way that offense played have an effect on what you guys can do defensively? Oh, a lot. You know, when you put points from the board, you know, teams have to pass the ball. That's more sack opportunities, more pressure opportunities. As you see more opportunities to get interceptions and force-trainovers. Do you feel like the offense defense, they're really kind of coming together? When you talked about it a lot over training camp, the team seems like the bond is stronger. Yeah, definitely from this game, you can tell it was a complimentary football. The offense was, they were sitting on all cylinders, literally, and you know, defense. You know, we did our thing, and you know, it just kind of played hand-to-hand. Thank you, Jay. Thank you. I would say I was a physical in high school, but I've been a lot more physical I can tell, just, you know, coach making the strength staff. You know, they help you a lot, just exposing, and all that, so I appreciate the strength staff a lot.

1:45:46And once you're January and year with the team, how much has that helped you and the other early enrollees? Not just getting their pair of businesses, but learning the culture of our athletes? So, coach, they asked all the seniors before we came in. They asked us if they were okay for us to come with the playoffs with them, and they all just give it a green light. They wanted us to experience that for the next time we're in the playoffs, so we could see that I think that's helped tremendously. I think it made us mature just being around those guys and knowing what to do when we do get into that place. Are there ways that you've already seen that pay off? I definitely can say, you know, just maturity-wise, especially from this class. I think we all just came in a little bit maybe immature, but we've definitely grown throughout that process. Just see the way a guy like Dott of Enchaps and stepped up for Ohio State last year. How inspiring was that for you? It's very inspiring, you know, me and Dany were pretty close to like to talk to him a lot. So, you know, just seeing him move from guard to tackle and just make such a huge jump in that little time was just really cool to watch. Carter, especially the three primary coaches you're working with, do they all speak the same language? If you follow my drivetrain, I mean, who do you listen to most, I guess, in those kind of situations?

1:46:46You know, they're all from different places, so at first I think it was a little hard for them to mention on their own. But now they've got it down, they're all at the same exact thing, so that's been helping a lot. Obviously they can explain stuff a little different if you like them too, but they've been doing a good job of keeping everything together. And Coutic in particular, what's he brought to you? What are some tidbits or things he's brought to you? Open your eyes a little bit. Just let the little older playstyle, I could say. He's not like too fancy on all the technique stuff. Yeah. So I like just how straightforward he is with all the technique stuff for sure, just very straightforward. I know you know Luke pretty well, both of you from Toledo. How have you just seen Luke Bro here or so far going into this year? I think I've been watching him for a while, you know, I've known him like you said. But I've just seen him grow as a leader, it's been really cool. Just seeing him a while back, you know, I think all the software he's just seeing you, we're always playing each other. But seeing him move into that leader role has been really cool to see. What kind of leadership is he bringing to that unit right now? Just always talking to the younger guys, then encouraging us, you know, tell us what we need to do. And not only the younger guys, but the other guys just encourage us as a whole.

1:47:47And what does his story mean to you? I mean, obviously this time of year ago, he wasn't even sure where he was going to fit in or whatever. Now, especially through the playoffs, he was a force. I mean, what does it just tell you about perseverance, but also a season? I think it really is just never give up. I mean, obviously you might not start the first game, maybe not even the second game, but you can always make an impact if you really, that's your desire. Who you've been meeting on, that's going to really explain it on team. Nice car. I kind of teach you the ropes, I kind of teach you tricks and tricks. You're actually a trained student. Who, you know, all the offensive lines I've helped you. I would say Austin and Luke a lot, you know, I talked to him for your offense, especially about technique stuff. I've also been playing a little different places. So he's gonna help me a lot of my small technique things. Just what to do for sure. Is it the small stuff that is a big adjust from playing golf? Is that really what kind of thing is? Yeah, it's definitely the smaller stuff. There's like, you know, hand protection stuff like that. Nothing to address it. So it's been good. The trade just hasn't been too crazy. Exactly what positions have you been repiting?

1:48:48Only a left tackle. Yeah, so far. You feel pretty comfortable there. I feel very comfortable. These are grown men. You're going against Kinyada and Kaden, like 22, 23 years old. Yeah, yeah. Obviously that's a lot different than the high school you're playing, what, 16, 17, most 18. So it hasn't been a lot different. I first co-practice were my best. I've definitely adjusted a pretty well this spring. Two more questions. I asked Jay about the counter-sensing. You guys obviously pushed my words very close. He came up to lead a handful of time, then all of a sudden. But the time you get up here, he's gone. How's it been getting the know the new offensive line? It's been really good. Obviously we had all the freshmen had a really good relationship with Coach Fry. Men seeing him leave was actually a little hard, but we all kept our minds open with Coach Bowen. We're lacking him a lot. We've been developing relationships with him. And he's been really good to us so far. Good. All right, Carter. Thank you. Thank you. I still feel a little off. I'm full of balance to my stance. And to show you the small technique we can do on a field, just still doing it. You're not left-talking. Just because part of my routine, I was part of my process.

1:49:51I get into my stance. So stuff like that that he taught me from day one. Obviously in practice, it was fun just competing with him. You know, just to meet at the back of the pocket and to dab each other after every rep. That was competing. You know what I mean? That's my guy. What is your love and share the website? How bittersweet is it, at a certain matter? Because it would happen to him. Yeah, that's the thing. That's not how I was definitely know how I thought about a transitional girl. You know, about the, you know, I'm some time in a car no soul career. You know, I want to play or forever, you know, I mean, talk about his plans. So, you know, you wish transitions like one of those fairy tales, like, to your time now. But again, either way, you know, we talk about it, you know, that's the toe goes. You know, but obviously, you know, he's, he's, he's, he's been one of the big supporters.

1:50:56Again, I think everybody leads in their own way. You know, not everybody's the, bro, guys, come around. Like, that's not everybody, right? Like, I think for me, that's me specifically on game day. With the O-I and after we do the little one, like, that's my like, well, hump did. Like, that's my like, big, vocal time I feel like. I've talked to him about this, you know, just recently. Talking about how, what I want to do for the world is, I want to bring that hump energy, the Hebrew. Right? So last year, of course, I'm sure he's been doing for years, but the year when I spent my own, he brought a lot of energy and excitement and happiness in the room, which is his natural energy, to where I only had to focus on me. You know, I didn't have to make sure other, other guys are, you know, feels the type of way when it came in here, because hump brought that. I'm not here, but I saw a way you did for the room.

1:51:58I want to be that guy to make sure I was an amptical to practice everybody's, I'm taking a big team on period, you know, it's a low day, or something, you know, it's a bit of a event, but like, I want to make it feel like hump comes. Like, yeah, pairs of tricks. I want to bring that, because that's what me and hump did to each other, we would have each other up to do something, like, to walk, or flip. I want to do that, I want to bring that energy, I want to make, bring more guys, you know, to do that. I want to do that from day one, you know, I kind of, I want to do that from day one, talking to them, and obviously it's that time I spent, obviously, the before OTA started, just being in my self-just thinking about what the room needs, you know, because I know I knew Rural as one of the leaders, you know, on the offense, is that we need a guy like that, just going to make sure the O-line is picked up, ready to go every day, I want to handle a little things,

1:52:59don't have enough practice for people, saying anything, and how I may leave, maybe different than somebody else may leave, you know, like, at practice, it looks like a legal positivity, you know what I mean? So, but he, the energy I would be on, just like, hyperb-b-on, so that's kind of how I want to be going on, living my whole life on again, I felt, team captain, like, specifically, and I felt I wasn't a captain in high school, wasn't a captain in college, but I want to make a joke, because I was in high school, so I feel like I'm not going to be a captain to like, is that I felt? But that would be awesome, you know, but, you know, if it happens, I'd be great, but not either way, I want to assume a role as a captain from the perspective of guys, on a team visual work, and to get back to that work. Yeah, I mean, I can't say that, I mean, I guess the biggest thing is that

1:53:59I felt it has felt like how it used to be in the past, but it didn't take just the first LTAs, it took training, left and right, once this season ended, because I didn't know what it was going to be, so I took a lot of, you know, grips, just to give back to feeling like myself for they want LTAs, and then that whole first week, but now, like, today specifically, just changing some small things with my feet, that is it, talking about the long coach, about some things I can do with my feet, to get to that, to sell that traditional angle that I love to sit on, I thought I felt great already, but I felt even better, so I need to work more excited tomorrow, now I'm getting my feet back, now I like the right side, and on the left side, so I'm excited. I mean, obviously I feel like, in the league, whether I left or right, you're still going against premier guys, so obviously, you have high expectations for your left and right tackle, but definitely, like, the level of energy,

1:55:03and like, the expectations definitely take the human side, because now, I can narrow the blind side, that's the, as the tackle role, you know, so, so yeah, I would say, in terms of communication as far as this, even outside of the facility, and stuff like that, like really crazy, but tackle quarterback, and bond even more off the field, I think, has been something that's even the cool, I got a text one day, as I, like, you put it left, I was like, yeah, I've been training both, I've been training both, you know, I asked after the season, they're like, honestly, you know, we'll talk to you separately in the season, and I just got a text, and I'm like, depending on how this went with the free agency, then, so I was like, you know what, I had an old season right tackle, if I get the word, I'm going, I'm standing right tackle, I'll just do what I did before, I'm building on that, but I was like, I might as well just train the left tackle now, as if I'm going to be left tackle, and I'd rather do that, than train all the right time,

1:56:05good to call it, and be left tackle, I'm like, who, I don't switch my feet yet. You know what I mean? So, I'm like, let me just prepare an advance, and I'll say, yeah, it's gone. You know, I think occasionally, on third down, there'd be a lot of twists, I was just not like, it's automatically going to come. And I think that was my mindset for like the first half of the season, like, I didn't have to go into the game with some pros, like, oh my gosh, I did that. I kind of figured, okay, like, this is the type of rush, and I'm like, this is how this guy usually rushes. If I get the vibe, this is how it ends like the rush, you know, tackles that, you know, first year guys, you got to premium your patch on, already know what it was going to be, already know what would be every step. And honestly, just knowing that's kind of an advantage to, so you're not, you're not, oh, they brought the twist on my side again. It was never air gone, but it comes out to my, I was like, three plays in a row, and in two minutes, I do that, it was going to win. I said, you know what I mean? I'm watching more everybody else, and he rarely, he only goes out there occasionally, on third down, I was like, you know, I was like,

1:57:05he's going to pick me. You know what I mean? So, effect, effect, it's kind of, it's also kind of an advantage in a way. But I thought I'd kind of talk to him about this, you know, just recently, talking about how what I want to do for the Rommas, I want to bring that hump energy, the he-braw, right? So last year, of course, I'm sure he's been doing for years, but the year when I spent my own, he brought a lot of energy, excitement, and happiness in the room, which is his natural energy, to where I only had to focus on me, you know, I didn't have to make sure other guys were, you know, I was feeling some type of way when it came in here, because hump brought that. I've been out of the hump tonight here, but I saw when you did for a room, I want to be that guy to make sure I was an amptical practice. Everybody's, I'm more taking a field team on period, you know, it's a low day, there's something, you know, it's a event, but like, I want to make it feel like hump comes.

1:58:06You know, you have the parents of the trip. I want to bring that, because that's what me and hump did to each other, and hump did to each other, we would have each other do something like that too. It's probably a walk, we're flit. So I want to do that, I want to bring that energy on, make, bring more guys. You know, you should do that, you know? Yeah. I want to do that from day one, you know, I kind of, I want to do that from day one, just talking to him, and obviously it's that time I spent, obviously it's a before OTA started, just being on my self-justing about what the room needs, you know, because I know I knew well as one of the leaders, you know, on the law of funds, is that we need a guy like that, just going to make sure the O-line is picked up, ready to go every day, I want to tell him a little things, don't happen to practice, and people aren't saying anything, and how I believe, maybe different than somebody else may believe, you know, like, that practice, at least like a legal positivity, you know what I mean?

1:59:06So, but he, the energy yet, would be on just the high to the beyond, so that's kind of how I want to be going on, learning my whole life, I want to get an NFL team captain, like specifically, and I felt I wasn't a captain in high school, I wasn't a captain in college, but I want to make a joke, I was in high school, so I feel like I'm not going to get a captain to like his NFL. You know? But that would be awesome, you know? But, you know, that happens, I'd be great, but not either way, I want to assume a role as a captain from the perspective of guys, onto the visual words, and get back in that way. Yeah, I mean, I can't say that, I mean, I guess the biggest thing is that, I felt like I was used to in the past, but it didn't take just the first day, it took training, left and right. Once this season ended,

2:00:06because I didn't know what it was going to be, so I took a lot of reps, just to get back to feeling, like myself, for day 1, and then I hold for a week, but now like today specifically, just changing some small things with my feet, that good thing, talking about the long coach, about some things I'm going to do with my feet, to get to sell my traditional angle that I love to sit on, thought I felt great already, but I felt even better, so I need more exercises tomorrow, now I'm getting my feet back, and how I like the right side, and on the left side, so on the right side. I mean, obviously I feel like, in the league, whether I left or right, you're still going against premier guys, so obviously, you have high expectations for your left, and you're right tackle, but there's definitely, like the level of energy, and like the expectations, definitely take the human stuff, because now, tonight, the blind side, that's the,

2:01:06that's the tackle world, you know, so, so yeah, I would say, in terms of communication as far as this, even outside of the facility, and stuff like that, like really crazy, but tackle quarterback, bond even more off the field, I think has been something that's, even the cool, maybe, I got the text one day, and I said, hey, I keep put it left, and I was like, you know, yeah, I've been training both, I've been training both, you know, I, I asked after the season there, like honestly, you know, we'll talk to you, some play in the season, and I just got a text, and I'm like, having what happens with the free agency, then, so I was like, you know what, I had an old season right tackle, so, if I get the word, I'm going, I'm standing right tackle, and I just do what I did before, I'm build on that, I was like, I might as well as train the left tackle now, as if we're going to be left tackle, and I'd rather do that, than train the right tackle, because I'm going to call it, and you're left tackle, I'm like, who, how do you, how do you,

2:02:06how do you switch my feet yet? You know what I mean? So, I'm like, let me just prepare an advance, I'll say, yeah, let's go. You know, I think occasionally, I'm very down, there would be a lot of twists, I was just not like, it's automatically good to come. And I think, that was my mindset for like the first half of the season, like, I mean, I think I'm just like, I think I kind of just, I think I actually did that. I kind of figured like, okay, this is the type of rush I'm going to get. This is how this guy usually rushes. If I get the vibe, this is how the end is, like the rush you know. Taffles that are first year guys. We got the premier patch on. I already know what it's going to be. I already know what it's going to be. Every stud. And honestly, just knowing that's kind of an advantage, to, so you're not, oh, they brought the twists on my side again. It was never air-doll. I got to come out a lot. I was like, two minutes, I knew that. It was going to happen. You know what I mean? I'm watching more everybody else. And you really, you know, it goes out there on occasional third down. I was like, you know, I was like, are you going to pick me? You know what I mean? So, effect, effect.

2:03:06It's kind of, it's also kind of an advantage in a way. But it's also exciting. Like, okay, I'm going to get the hardest look. You know, those are real, real reps, you know, the things. So, really, I'm going to kind of process that I was like, hey, when I tell me, let me know about, I'm just going to train it. I was training all left. So, TAs, I guess if I didn't hear anything about TAs, I would have came in like, so, you know what I mean? Because just like, I'm cool with training both continue. I would have been cool with training both continually. But I feel like anybody, any position will be like, okay, like, you want to as soon as possible, give your feet kind of subtle day, your hips subtle day, your hands, so then, certain kind of that. Would it have been harder to hit your work both during TAs? No. No. But they're definitely, but in terms of the development, they definitely lie faster, they're staying on one side.

2:04:08But I think having that, the weeks that we had to transition to seasons over, I'm going to like, respond. You know, good. I'm trying to get up, put up my mind, and wink. Things that are telling right now, but when it comes back, I'm going to show them to you on the house. I've got a house that's not too far from, so I told them, I got that house, so I could, like, I could yell outside. Like, DJ? You know what I mean? So, yeah. My mom says, you know, just go out there, my dad just dominated the person I was confronting me. You know, just do what I've been doing for the last two to three weeks, I should say. But, you know, they play men on men, so I'm just ready for the challenge. Yeah. I mean, feels good. Just say somebody going out there and playing men on men, guess Ohio State receivers is something crazy.

2:05:08But, you know, we just ready for the challenge. They say they're not changing their game plan, but we got to go out there and show them the reason why not the play man on men. Well, in the recent announcement of the month 2016, I saw you talking about it right now. Sure, we're going to be the conversation. Yeah. When you go to Carson Bay, you have to tell the other guy, it's a case that he's going to have to work with. I mean, I don't really, if I be on a curve, I be on a curve with me. It's not really a big deal to me. It may definitely be a blessing for sure, just to be on a curve of a game. But, you know, it's not really a dream of mine. It's a dream of mine, but I don't really think too much of it. I mean, no, not yet. Probably hit me after this season. No, just no. Playing in the Carlos football playoffs as a freshman, playing in the Rose Bowl as a freshman, putting in a Cardinal Bull, not in the National Championship.

2:06:08I mean, it's a blessing for sure, but they haven't hit me yet. My favorite catch, I would say we play Michigan State, the one I caught up to, defenders, definitely probably my favorite for sure. Or you could go the one from Iowa, I should say, and the answer, probably the one too. I'm curious, from the health of the game, the Rose Bowl, you know, is like that. And it's only different than the Texas State. Obviously, it's going to be a classic. It's going to be a fun, you know, a big difference. There's a classic, they're going to be a different, they're going to be a different, next to the football player. I mean, like you said, it's pretty frustrating me having a game that I had in the Rose Bowl. They're coming to the Cardinal Bull, you know, just doing different things, chasing their scheme up for, uh, against me. But, I mean, like you said, whatever I could do to make, I mean, help the team win.

2:07:08It's not really a big deal for me, as long as we win, that's all I really care about. And you got to set that to your championship. Right here. You might have to park the steering to your team and then working out for 14. You never get to the football team. Like, let's be a part of the guys. We will help you get to the ground. You're also down the corner. We'll have to take a picture. It means a lot. We put a lot of work in this, uh, this season. Uh, we have, how's we have lows. We have people cutting us out. Um, but we hear now, we just ready to put on a show Monday. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Uh, first of when there's a national championship, because there was means a lot. Um, you see everything that he bent through this year. People, uh, saying should be fired and this is not the third, but, uh,

2:08:09when you see everything that he bent through this year, I mean, I see everything I had bent through this year. Um, see everything. People saying about him on Twitter. Um, I wasn't here. Uh, he first got the head coach and job, but I know this year for sure, we definitely got to win this for him. Uh, I mean, it's a lot, uh, a lot of people in the league. I should say, I can't really say who, but I mean, you had guys like, oh, there. You had guys like, uh, oh, there. You had Stefan Dicks. It means a lot of, uh, Michael Tom is Chris Carter. Just a lot of, you know, guys that played in NFL and stuff like that. But yeah, really them guys for sure. Okay. Uh, no, just keep going. Um, you got it. You messed up for sure. Really. Yeah. Really that. Yeah. So they said. Uh, like, uh, physical defense, uh, like like you said, like people say, like they like to play man.

2:09:15They're not changing their scheme. So we're just ready for the challenge. Uh, like you said, probably the best defense week. We probably go see all year and we just got to be ready to go out there Monday and just put on the show. Um, I'm excited for will. Um, um, first coming here in Ohio State January our first workout we had together. Um, I mean, just everything that we did through the season. Um, I mean, I'm just happy for will for him to be in this position right now, but we got to finish the job and that's the winning at the old Monday. Uh, I mean, it's pretty funny. Um, them saying that because I'm just only a freshman, but um, it's a pleasure for sure people to even say that, but I got two three more years left for Carlos.

2:10:21I'm just focused on cars right now. I'm not really worried about the NFL right now. Uh, it's very special for me. Uh, just being a freshman and playing the national stage, like a peer for national titles, something that I dreamed of as a very young kid. Um, I'm just happy to be here and I just can't wait to put on a show Monday for you guys. Yeah. Uh, I mean, all of us used to sit on the bench and we just see him hit the quarterback the ball come out and we all just got up and just started jumping up and down. We all decided. Uh, happy for jacking that moment and we just knew that that moment like, you know, this we go on to the daddy for sure. So I'm going to have to stay championship back with you.

2:11:21Yeah. So like less than 40. What is it? It has to be a higher school. And national championship. How does that feel to have that all the same? Is that true? Uh, me. It shows a lot on me, you know, going from high school or when the three state championships, uh, Salman, Madonna, then you know coming to Ohio State. So just competing for national child right now. Me just showed that I picked two great schools. Um, but I'm happy to be here and I just came with the point of show Monday. The coolest person. Um, I mean, you got a lot. I can't really say just a specific person. You got a lot of great guys. Reach out and leave like, um, oh, there. I got like stuff on the eggs. Um, a lot of other places where I just can't cut my mom, but really, really into guys with short of dollars. I'll step on this. You're looking at their name.

2:12:21You got on your mind. The track attack is going to dominate. Yeah. Yeah. Um, I mean, like they say, they play man. So I'm just ready for the challenge and just get ready to go out there Monday and just no put on the show. Thank you. We're going to back. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The vice genome had gave me, um, I said just keep golfers. Um, you know, he, I know the reason why I'm here. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like he said, just keep golfers and just no keep the main thing and the best corner I face this year. Um, I. I mean, I face a lot of great corners. I can't really say, but yeah, I face a great daughter. The daughter of the corners here really put a name on it. Yeah. What is your main occasion?

2:13:29My dream occasion is, uh, Terence and K-coves. Oh, good. Are you? Yeah. I'm, uh, I say both respect and frustration as well. Um, but I mean, I thought they come out there and triple teaming me and they say he's sticking to what they've been doing all year and that's playing man covers, uh, which is ready for the challenge. Uh, pretty good group. Uh, Christian Gary 29th, a great corner, uh, 15, uh, Lenard Moore, uh, two great guys and, um, I'm out there, um, very physical, but you know, we all have to receive us.

2:14:32So we ready for the challenge. Um, I say just no understanding the defense, understanding the defense, uh, understanding the game plan, understanding what Coach Kelly is trying to get done. Um, I mean, just coming in, I felt I progress from our first game against Akron to now. I feel like I better each and every week, um, me being slowed down a lot for me. Um, but yeah, really just no understanding devices and no understanding what they're trying to do to me for sure. Um, two guys, great part of the best we go see all year for sure. Um, two, two, uh, physical guys, um, but you know, we're ready, we're ready for the challenge

2:15:34that they're coming with and that's the play man, oh man, and you know, we ready to go on Monday. Yeah. Uh, I mean, environment is pretty crazy, uh, seeing all these cameras, uh, something I never thought I'd see them alive, but, uh, it's a blessing for sure, this is the main disposition right now. Um, and we just had a, uh, prayer, prayer, uh, prayer meeting and, you know, we all, they all, the, we all discussed the issues because they discussed these issues, you know, which is what the word, uh, mean, not two and a half weeks we had off before Tennessee game and we just played, came out there, um, Tennessee game and we played with a chip on a chip on our shoulder, um, all throughout the playoffs and we go continue to play with that chip on our shoulder and, uh, that's the championship on Monday.

2:16:39Uh, do you know how that very, uh, impactful, uh, yeah, the very impact on my career, I just say, uh, you know, just going to his games as a, uh, very young kid, seven, eight years old, um, him playing Westwood, him playing for Westwood, you know, they played Clemson, Orange Bull down in Miami, um, he just going to, they're seeing his games. It was like, yeah, I definitely want to play on the stage and I can't, uh, wait till I get to know that moment for sure. How are you? Um, I was gay. Uh, cause they really just in his own, his own little space. Uh, he's just walking around trying to get his mind right, trying to get his mind ready for the game. Um, but you know, he, uh, he just gave everybody hype in the locker room and he just trying to get us ready to go to win the game. Yeah. Oh yeah, oh yeah for sure I mean you go play mangas Ohio State receivers I mean just

2:17:45be ready because you know we definitely go come out there and know give our best and I mean they said not go change what they do so we just ready for the challenge. Not a year later definitely sometime my career college but not my first in college I should say I mean just to be able to be in this position right now is you know a blessing or just a yellow key if I'm not in me to be here and I won't take it for granted I'm ready to go out there and give them my all Yeah yeah I mean I was watching I gave my gets was it Georgia I believe yeah I was

2:18:51in I gave I was pretty sick myself because I was actually committed at that time so I mean yeah they left a bad taste in them off but I mean we ready to go out there Monday to redeem myself and they'll just go put on show Monday Oh I mean me I just laugh but you know that's what they do they're not gonna change what they do just because we're high state so you gotta go out there and put it on put it on why not to play man on man it gets us so we just gotta go out there show them my day can you say the year sorry my journey here at Ohio State repaired me a lot for not your shape of shit me just going through

2:19:54everything that I've been through my first guy here all the Matt Jules all the hard workouts that we had all the hard practices um just preparing all of us for this moment and I'm just ready to go out there and give it up my all Monday okay okay yeah we just squeezed this two hundred me here's big and scrubs I wanna 20? Yeah that's great yeah it's really good.

2:21:23Uh, it went out probably like the most is the one against Michigan State when I caught over two defenders on their saw line. Put it like one or the one after that I should say or you go the one against Iowa. Probably them three probably my best ones for sure. Oh I mean just we'll put in the ball in my area and I just know how to make a play for them. Even though somebody was grabbing my face my I just know I still how to make a play because the ball touched my hand so I mean just when the ball and the other thing I how to make the play no matter how the ball comes at me. After a big game um I mean we really they really feed us Chick-fil-A or piece out of the game so it's really either Chick-fil-A or piece so yeah probably Chick-fil-A for sure.

2:22:24Yeah. It went it went pretty good everybody just uh speaking with their thing is uh going right and what they think is wrong um which is a lot of the older guys watching their opinions on what we need to do to uh come to get as a team um but you know that me and DeFi uh helped us in a in a big way because it helped us on the field as well because we play in a great football right now and we got to tell you that one Monday. Yeah it definitely got emotional uh can't really say uh what really was said because that's no players only and coaches only but it would definitely some stuff said that um people took uh

2:23:27people took and uh went with it and that's the reason we planned the way we planned right now. Uh yeah make help me a lot this year um him being our older guy in the room um me help me in a car now as well and Brendan and his and all the guys in our scene room as well me just a great guy as well so very smart uh me and make just been a big part of the reason that I'm having the season I'm having a look because he's been a big you know older guy been there been a lot of great guys in our room like Chris Alivegaard Wilson Marvin Harrison Jr. Jackson Slickman Jibba so he seen all the grids I've been through there and he teaching us the right thing and the right way and the buck out way for sure. I love that that means they don't know what's coming out next we got 12 personnel 11 personnel you could throw two of us in throw one of us and you gotta stop it all. What have you made of the quarterback stuff for three of them? Not too much I feel like they all come in here working I feel like everybody's making their throws making their passes and everybody making their corrections.

2:24:29What did you take away from last season? What did you take away from last season? When the next game that was it when the next game go out there on Saturday beat the man in front of you and you came out with a nice and checkish shirt on the dentist. Spring balls about improvement as I leave the video when you work on this. I'm looking out every day I'm trying to get my game as well as vice-degree I'm not trying to come out to fill it on. I feel like we've had leaders from last year that came back and I feel like we got new guys that stepped up into their roles and their roles and around the team that become leaders. Being a leader you all always have to be vocal you can have certain examples on the field or you can be vocal or do both. I was happy for G.I.C. and I heard Grind and I heard him last year Grind and getting an extra work.

2:25:38There's ball is ball we come out here and play ball he's out here doing a pro day yesterday I just you know ready to go make some real money. What place do you feel like you're a different player now going into this year and maybe you were last year? I feel like every year I've just improved on my overall game blocking and catching consistent wise people used that were but I feel like I'm just overall better. I came in here ready to go. How much does it push you when you're in a room of guys like Max and Will and Bennett that you know you've got to be on your game if you're going to get on the field? Man I feel like Arya is sharp by Arya every day and come in and work and they go push me every day to work and it's just like I'm a do-do. Why have you got answers before? It's now crowded room. You got answers before so what's the impression of having a Max? I love more honestly. Max, Max Claire, Max LeBron, both of them. I love them. What's your flashed any time you're here? Is this the year work at all from the other side? I feel like Arya was my year but hey you're going to see this year I'm ready to come out here

2:26:42and put on a show for the Bucket Nation. I feel like everybody on the field is ready to go put on the show. We're trying to go back and back. You got a play quite a bit though last year tonight. What did you pick up from all of that? Especially in a championship run. They were counting on you. Honestly just be ready at any time. You can be throwing in at any time just like I was. I probably had some rest while I was just throwing in and you got to get it done. If you don't get it done they're going to find somebody who has to do it. I think we asked you this every time we get a few jump points. We're definitely seeing what you've progressed as a tight end. All of that means. Honestly over the spring and some of this I feel like I've told them my body a lot and I got stronger in the way we were. I've also got a little bit faster so I can get in and out of breaks a little bit. And just the mine part of the game. The middle part of the game. If you got even better at that I mean how would you describe that? I'll say it again. The mine part of the game.

2:27:44Well I feel like it's a lot more fun. I say like the tight ends we come here. Five o'clock every other day we do walk through more film. We're just more students at a game now. We're like that. I feel like it was just an exciting play. I was the last read on it. Like the very last read on it. I don't go out I came down with the catch so we did the first down. You know it wasn't going to be. You're but I still had a great rookie year. Six yards of carry you know things like that. I think it was like nine touchdowns ten including the playoffs. And so there's always been like all right. God bless me show my talent trying a little bit like even when I had the knee so I had the knee right a lot of people don't know like I didn't get hurt again whenever I got you know you got cleaned up so I went down in 21 right. Had the injuries the knee injury and then came back later the next year and I

2:28:47and I played the first few games and I just feel that there was a lot of scar tissue in there. So I had to get it cleaned up. I didn't get hurt again. I could have played the whole year but I got it cleaned up so I can feel like me and so after I got that cleaned up I the first two games back from the injury I had over 120 yards rushing right and then went on had great great ending of the year you know 100 total yards in the play-out game we lost which I hate the most styles don't matter me I want to win but then come back the next year hurt again like tornadilly so two really unfortunate injuries but that's just a guy's plan you know and I think that the storm is now over you know and I do think that I'll be able to shine a light to the whole world. Are you concerned that you have that label or you can't stand it? I could care less because I do I do I know this out there because as it should be it should be I got hurt two major injuries back or not back to back years but you know so I haven't been on

2:29:49the field as much as I should that's true that is true but it's not like I'm having these little dinky injuries and sitting out it's something I can't control literally so that's why I'm not bother by it like yeah I am injury-poin you can say that you know but I do think that the chargers are getting a guy that's gonna be healthy from now on you know guy will it and it's gonna be great and I do think that it's gonna be it's gonna be a great however many years here when you're out there you're very productive how much confidence does that give you that really only means it's not the two you know all the confidence in the world you know the way I work I want to say just from the numbers but just the way I work my work ethic you know and I'm my relationship with Jesus is like I have the most confidence when I step out there because I do know like if he grants me the health it's over with is I don't think I'll be you know I think it'll be a great

2:30:55year whatever couple years however many years he grants me great health you know and I think just the work ethic my prayer and all that stuff that's what help me have that confidence with the numbers will be there and they they might be higher after this year you know Zen and it's crazy to think about because I had six point yards or six yards per carry you know so we'll see you know I play with Bradley I play with him you know I know Slater I know all the I know all the guys you know and I'm I'm excited I think it's like I said earlier it's a talented group you know we just got put together win some games because that's why I came before I wouldn't I wouldn't say a part of the recruitment but like whenever I decide I was going to sign it was great to have him in the room yeah we're great we're we have a great relationship that's he's like my brother I think it accomplished it complimented each other very well you know um he can do a lot of

2:31:59stuff too you know a lot of people think he's just power power power but I think he has some other parts that was game too which it it'll be great because I feel like I could do everything and when we wanted to get tired we we can roll it in we keep rolling win some games when you the two of you get going how do you think this is going to look for work work but what will be that partnership that back there I know that's a hard question um how do I think I think it'll look beautiful you know I um a lot of people call this a passive league but I think you got to run the ball to win a Super Bowl you know if you look at the the teams who win the Super Bowl they can run the ball they can control the clock and so if we're both good it'll look great beautiful I would I would describe it as you know a great offense um I think he he gives a quarter he's going to give the quarterback a lot of options he's going to give the running back a lot of options he's going to give the receiver a lot of options you know and I think it'll be I

2:33:02think it's going to be great his offense is going to be amazing one thing when we talk to him you know I was like why are you going to build something good rush not this is you know throughout your career and you said that one part of it is just you got to call the plates you got to call the run the plates as we're running back you know how much confidence how much you say this will give you you know you play caller that's going to stick with it and allow you and the offense to give you a little bit gives me a lot of excitement you know it's going to be like I say it's fun to play his offense you know and I think he does have some good things in the past game too but like you said he sticks with the run and that's that's the identity you you want to offense that has an identity right you don't want to be looking everywhere else to find your your identity you want you want to have it and so I think his offense has that and the guy she builds and puts in there it it compliments that I didn't see so I think it's going to be great

2:34:03I ain't going to answer any of the four if it's up to me yes look because I had this problem like three two years three years ago I'm thinking I'm full go I think I'm ready to go and then next you know I'm on P.U.P like hey look some stuff above my prey pay Gray so but I don't know hopefully I can start I think I'm ready to start you know at the beginning training camp but that's not up to me as I've learned I wouldn't say that I think I've been I've been in some great organizations and I think this this organization is a great organization and the training staff is great and so they just want what's best for for me you know and they're they're taking care of me which that's what you want in an organization and so that's where that comes from which I appreciate it like I really appreciate it you know because I'm a type of guy like I work really hard so maybe sometime I'm blind to you know the danger of something you know so I appreciate it but like I

2:35:07say if it's up to me yeah I'm out there but never know any frustration for you during the getting into free agency you know dealing with rehab and not you know having a full season of tape or production to go out there was there any part of that where you're like I wish I you know I did with the open market with a different situation you know I like it I like how would I say this I like it the hard way but not you know I like it the hard way I like it I like trial and tribulations so I mean the dice that I was given the role was I was coming off a or Achilles and that was that was the Lord's plan so it was beauty in that like I was comfortable I was caught like there was multiple teams you know I wasn't it wasn't like I didn't have any other team but I was comfortable and

2:36:08sitting back and just enjoying the process letting myself get fully healed so whenever that team whoever I would sign with who now is the Chargers is gonna get the best me you know and I think people all around the league know that like okay this guy okay it's a high risk high reward type thing right not even a high risk low risk because you it's a business right so I got hurt last year so not as much money and he's be throwing that but I think everyone around the league knows that whenever I am on the field the numbers don't lie and so they know that and a lot of teams what like are here you can we give you this but we want you to be healthy so when I'm healthy it's gonna be great this the chance that I've been giving here I'm so grateful and I know that's gonna be they won't be they won't regret it are you the type of person that likes to hurt people wrong like you've done a couple things like the high risk high reward injury prone you know like are you the type of person that really tries to prove people wrong no I hear it I see it it's pretty

2:37:17cool like you'll never see me unless I'm just like in a bad mood you never see me like oh like if I have a great game or a great year like I have this wonderful year I ain't gonna go back and you're like yeah like yeah what happened no because I don't care like you're eventually see like I'm like I'm a guy that's really good so I ain't worry about that but I'm proving myself right that I am one of the best in the league right so forget all the naysayers and people that talk about e-begin injury prone because whenever I have this great year it's gonna be forgotten you know to do I give that energy yeah I was you know we just with him you know he's a great guy I mean he was in my class I remember seeing him on we were at an award show because I was a dope walker finalist and I'm like I've seen him play but I didn't know he was that tall like I didn't know he was like six years old when I first saw him this was years ago in college and I'm like damn this

2:38:19was pretty tall like it's cool though like I like I never really got to I ain't gonna lie I thought it was gonna be kind of you know you know nerdy there's ways he's cool dude very late but no we'll face to him you know it's just because like the last three years has been disappointed at the end of the season so I feel like we put more work in I think that's what we're missing we're just putting more work in and he's got to do that throughout the summer the spring the fall and then he's got to show it on the field tell the guy just ask Jack this when you take a just like in a moment or a practice and you look at it through all of the deep fits and you look at the person L-chains will fail coming in with sunny woman up in the post-reline spring with all the guys in the description coming back what's your like just a view of what's out there on defense and how it may be a milder to do some things uh it's kind of just like I don't want to like high part has too much but I kind of look like a like a legendary defense kind of I feel like we got playmakers everywhere and then moving

2:39:21sunny down I think that's a great move for him you know he's a big athletic dude um he can play in a box he can play like safety thing that's just showing how like versus how he is and Caleb you know you've seen Caleb how he plays he's an animal he's only a sophomore I think and I feel like the guys we brought back you know we all can we're all dominant so I feel like as a collective unit we're going to be like unstoppable so confident it's a problem no well there's a part of that too and as I mentioned they're about pacing yourself so if you get there's that much self belief then there's also that part of going to build depth you know in case you have injuries case you have vision so how do you look at spring in terms of getting the guys that are next in line as prepared to keep that standard high I think you just got to set a great example for the young guys and just showing them how to how to practice how to like watch film how to take care of their body because those are the things we're going to need to like going as deep run and I think it's like 17 games or something that we're not we add in games so the young guys are going to have to play we can't just play fit the games to snap that's not going to happen

2:40:24so you is going to keep working kind of keep running uh getting the shape you played so many things you know what's kind of surprising to me that you said you said that it was a joke I'm sure but like you know surprising to hear that from you it's very humbly snapped you play last year but that kind of take it to a new last year do you think that you need to you know push it even further getting better shapes so you can play all 16-17 games yeah definitely I got to get way better shapes than I've been and I feel like um it was kind of like it was a joke but of course I needed those snaps because the years before I wasn't really playing as much so I just wanted to get like more experience under my belt so I can know bring younger guys with me because I've been through a lot of those younger guys we're really simple because

2:41:31uh will as a workhorse he he goes stay quiet you go and work hard and that's all I love about he focuses he don't really talk much he's going to get a job done do a job right rarely has any mistakes what would be a successful season uh a national championship I'm reading when all the games we don't want to lose anything we got a mindset that we can't be beat and we just got to go show it oh it's definitely a difference everyone working harder um we noticed our last run like we most of us don't have any years after this so we got to go go bigger going home and we not trying to go home finish big we know what you guys think of Michigan but when you look at what they did they won the national championship and you guys took them down to the final minute

2:42:31right you know what I mean I mean you you were right there something goes a little different you guys could have been one that came against them does that tell you anything about like that hey you guys want to win a national championship but you played to the 59th minute with the team that won the national championship last year like you're that close this is how I'm saying uh we just like work harder that's that's kind of coach makes uh saying you know nobody cares just work harder like those you know won't play Georgia it's the same thing uh last last play you know they went on the win in 90 so we just got to get over that hump at the end of the season I think how frustrating is that you're that close against the last two national title uh of course as you know it's frustrating but you can't change the outcome you can't really do other one uh do it on it you just gotta you know come back and work harder do things better than you did last year and hopefully the outcome will change as that is you get older you kind of learn I thought I was working hard and you always find out there's a little more than you could have been doing yeah definitely I mean that's how that's what growing up is basically in college and I thought French me I was working it's hard as I could but now I look

2:43:35back at it I really wasn't working hard at all compared to what I'm doing now so just to learn anything uh 80 85 I mean I can it's all on me I just I think it's a little higher I was just trying to be funny but I mean it's all on me I just gotta run harder get the shape up side about that idea does it make you nervous about can you last that long do you have worries? I think I think I think I definitely get lies I was just you know we got to get the young guys to come along with us we can't play 50 snaps again that's just too much on our bodies uh just everybody like online D-line we gotta get those younger guys to play you know get depth pieces on the D-line and O-line and everywhere else so we can last at the long run

2:44:35speaking of life plan and all of them snap is that if you like playing that new snap again last year because I don't know if any of us were really expected to play that next time uh yeah I did unless we were like winning by like a lot uh I thought like Daringles mom is you know I can go sit down or something but we're playing them big games like you know Notre Dame too or North those kind of games I of course I want to be because I know I can contribute and I won't want to put that on anyone else when I know I get the job done. What stands out about Kaden McDonald is he got the kick of you guys a little second? Oh yeah definitely K-Mac is uh K-Mac's animal y'all you haven't really seen it yet but in practice he shows all the time he's just he's just he's growing right now he has to work I think he just has to get you know in the playbook things like that you guys are about the exact same size listen you're both listen to six three you're three twenty seven he's three twenty six yeah he's I kind of look at him like my my junior but you know K-Mac he's gonna be a great player he's got to develop more and get into playbook so really a lot on you older guys there's that large group of young guys and then there's the seniors in the back is that part of your

2:45:38task for this year to bring those guys along as well yeah definitely we got to be leaders um like I say we got to have them play this year we can't just play all the snaps they got to get in there and get some work and we got to get them right during the all season so they can play and not just play they want to like contribute like make plays tackle sex yeah they're definitely some big dudes um and they all work hard I'm really seeing much of some day too when I'm not as on but throughout the workouts they've been working hard you know they they're determined to I'd say that and it looks like they're ready to work with me I'm going to score this notes it feels like there's a lot of great defense that you have big athletic defense attacks who can eat up space but also move you know right then is that is that an environment maybe for great defense to have guys like you that have some balls but

2:46:40also a great team I think that is definitely I think if you look at the last uh a couple of national championship winners uh like team of North they you know they got two good uh detaco two athletic detacles look at Georgia two athletic detacles so I think that's definitely need if you want to go on that big run that beat those big teams I have a more questions you might as well as how I mean you understand it because you play it but I feel like some time I don't know are people realizing how important defense tackles are a little bit more than they used to I think so uh I think they're starting to develop to develop more and more of these like freakiest detacles yeah like in the combine just now you see in like those guys they're moving forward to four seven eights and things like that so we'll see and when you think it when you think about those freakish athletes how do you think you fit into that all of that kind of player you watch that and say yeah that's me yeah definitely I think I'm

2:47:42top-notch when it comes to detacles but I don't want to you know get a big head but you know watch it come on I watch it do do the drills I have tape here you like you're looking like my film so I think I'm up there with all those I mean as many as I can have I think I have more than that but I think they count I think they count some of them and it's some of them where I like just missed it so but I think we work on drills matching the hand I think that's uh goes big and uh what we do is a D line you know just affecting the quarterback is anywhere you can it's just great for the defense you know that little thing you cover it is I you know he might throw it a little bit to the left to our player so so it's something that you really really have to work on

2:48:47here because there are a few guys that I've seen like oh that passed me about it I think I just have like a like a eye for the ball kind of I kind of just look at the quarterback and I see him I load up I just try to get in his ways and sometimes he throws it to me I mean they get frustrated by you know we're a team you know we're just good but take time to grow you know you don't have to have the the pig mentality of problem of of instant gratification you know you can develop and grow so and sometimes you may be and behind a guy that's a really good player is nothing wrong with developing and growing and playing when your time is right and if the time is right right now is a freshman like what's your name did you play early you know um so we try to also sell that you know we care about them as people and try to prepare you for life after football um so it's bigger than just football

2:49:47going to prepare you for life whether it's the NFL or on with a regular career in in a workforce we want you to prepare you as a young man and we try to sell that and preach that uh to the parents with germane having that impact you mentioned pulling all these different spots do you anticipate you know there wasn't a lot of rotation among the cornerbacks last year when everyone was healthy do you anticipate maybe growing him for the rest guys here with the longer season potentially yeah we play it about here you know I mean we see how it goes by time we get in the camp but you know obviously he's earning his stripes so you know I mean when you earn your stripes you know a lot of job to create an opportunity for you you know I mean we have to see how it goes with all the other stuff you know once we get closer to the season um and we're getting the game plan stuff but he's doing a great job and he's and he's taking a great step forward the way he kind of establishes room now it seems like it's been like centerpieces kind of relationships and kind of building bonds but I'm curious is that something that you came in with the it's like a couple years ago with the intention of doing or is that something that you're like

2:50:48that's kind of been cultivated over the course of your time as a position coach here no it's been there for a while I've been doing that for a long time it's all about relationship if you develop real relationship and you know authentic in your communication and you have honest feedback and you have you know direct teaching um the guys that have a value in character and they appreciate that stuff they're embrace that um so but they have to know you care and you have to know that it's real and they have to know that you you're really concerned about there where being as a young man and when you get close to him it's been a lot of time with him off the field you could coach him hard and you can you can you can you can say truthful things to him and then they'll embrace it and you have real conversation because you know the only goal is to help them get better as a young man yeah it's them balanced up a little bit now uh that goes with great competition we have the uh we go against the best receivers and call it football so that helps escalate your growth

2:51:50process because if you don't figure it out real fast you're getting embarrassed um so that competition but what happened with that I guys start competing I guys start growing I guys got better and now is even up a little bit so where you get really good work at practice today you know I mean so it's competitive it's fun those guys both on both sides of all care about each other so it's great competition and they all real close so you know I mean it's that stuff that gets us better uh that will prepare for Saturday I know it's just it's it's gonna competitive man they got the best group in the country that you're going against every day so you have to bring it every day you know I mean so they they we got a great quarterback room we got a great receiver room the running backs are really good so when you out there going against them is deep so you have to be ready for it and obviously man we're seeing a lot of good stuff with with with with stay in coach Kelly doing over there and so it prepares you a lot and it helps us grow yeah all that's because you know that's

2:53:05where you get better iron shop is iron so you know you get to see that every day of practice that helps you grow it's no better uh thing to go against every day than to see that on a daily basis we're just moving a lot of guys around we watch our practice we have a lot of guys in there right now you know we pop out there are four different guys in there obviously the ringzoles in their germane is in their Caleb miles we we have we have about four or five guys moving around right now we just try things out in spring ball see what it fit you know see what things work together so it's gonna probably some more guys in there you know we move it around to try to just get the right fit throughout the N and C how it goes by time we get ready start the season he can run any strong you know I mean he's fast uh very serious about his business uh he's big it's 200 pounds he can run he's strong he's conscientious you know me and he's starting to grow and he's starting to get get better with it you know I mean so we look for big things for him to spring keep competing you know I mean now he's made the uh the transition um competing the day

2:54:07you know I mean start going in that transition is all just like I'm in germane last year you throw him in the fire you let him go you compete you go by time we get out of end of training camp you'll be them figured out yeah I want that but now you just throw it all at him compete continuing to grow continue to learn he has the skill set he has to length now you just got to put it all together and it takes time to do that um and hopefully you see that by time we get in the training camp it seems like a bit of a pressure spring you kind of click for germane last year and you start to see and perform a little better in practice is that like a benchmark for where you want here and to be by the middle of spring because you have to be in a certain point where you want it to start clicking yeah by the time you start getting about two weeks from now that last week you know because it takes time because there's a lot of stuff going on but you know by the time you get into that last week of spring ball you you'll look to start seeing the things that you look for show up and then you know you get another evaluation again we'll get into training camp see if this stuff carried on to make sure we go up for starting in September so what's your assessment of growth that you've made now that he's kind of got his feet under one defense or do you like about him and that knickles about the thing he's very conscious inches he's smart

2:55:10he can run he's tough um he's made the adjustment because he's out of Europe on his belt so now you can see he's not making a lot of mistakes he competes he's real conscious inches and uh and uh and he has a physical presence so the growth has been really good and we look to continue that throughout spring coach thank you very much right now the the the culture here's real of course they does a great job of building the culture our room is close knit the guys on defense are real close those guys want to come back they have an agenda you know we want to come back they want to come back and and and and and and walk away with something so it didn't shock me but what is a good environment for them too you know I mean that's when you see those guys come back that's a testimony to the the the culture that's set here their brotherhood the environment and how coach they runs the program for those do's don't want to come back because we go at it it's hard it's not easy it's not easy but what what we do so in fact they come back and do that as a testament to how he runs

2:56:12the program coach wall thank you very much as far as intensity how would you evaluate I think a dinged early on how would you evaluate your games yeah my goal was just to come out play as hard as I could it was a little weird last week for the first time in my career playing a game that doesn't necessarily mean anything in terms of playoff contention and I kind of had to check myself and and this week come in with a mindset of every game matters and and we need to put the best product out there that we can and and that's what I try to do later now it was a good push or you looked at the looking into you for a push up when you returned you didn't seem shaken up right after you kind of just talk about what happened yes Sam just tried to get it on it and caught me it was more of like a stinger clip thing but the ref wanted me to go to the tent so I had to go answer

2:57:13some questions who's like jammed yeah my neck yeah maybe when it hits the top like that it's not as good but I played these guys 11 months ago kind of crushed their dreams do you get the sense they're kind of a different team or and also that they this was a very important game for them to win I don't think they're that different I think they've had a ton of injuries on defense which hurts them but the mentality of the head coach you could see it throughout everybody it's really a cool team I could just see from afar that it's probably a fun team to play for and they've they come out and they played a win every game and I respect that put so much emphasis on the ball all meetings and takeaways and I think you got two since the by-week is there any accounting for that

2:58:15I mean is there's so many different things that go into a turnover or takeaway how do you wrap your brand around it goes into every level the defense when you have your opportunity I know we had two against Stafford that could have made I mean if maybe if we get those it sparks a bunch of other ones so you just have to make your make your plays when they're there and then just be in being the right spots and I don't think we've done a great job of that this year it's good he's a really good player and yeah I wanted to see where I'm at against him and you ever seen anything like the James and William's touchdown or it's pop back to him and you see something like that I was in the tent so I had no idea that happened it was playing this game

2:59:15with Mustafa kind of a misdirection sprinted all the way across the field to make the play did you see the play and I think it was it the one Gibbs cut back yeah I had like a 10 yard cushion and he ran by me like I was didn't exist and I tried to sprint and I just just like I don't have this and thankfully Mustafa is a heat seeking missile and he made the play so I mean I think we came in with the right mindset as a team just myself it felt a little like dead energy wise but yeah it was a learning a moment for me to learn and and make sure that I come in with the right

3:00:16mindset every single week there's a lot of plays where you guys get to the final pass breakups and it'll be like a couple plays for row and then there's next close up about what can you what you're thinking about the ecosystem is yeah I mean we did we did get them to second third longs and then yeah they they would make a big play and you definitely want to capitalize when you when you back them up like that we didn't do that tonight and that's why they scored 40 points I'm sure yeah sure oh yeah for sure you had guys like Chris Carter you had guys like Michael Talman's really new two guys for sure um me uh Michael Talman's was talking to me before the game

3:01:20with a Rose Bowl and Chris Carter in after the game as well me just them giving me advice uh just you know telling me keep going first and you know just keep doing what I've been doing the whole year um I mean I'm got bugger legends so definitely uh look at them guys for sure major respect uh it means a lot uh me just a kid from Miami uh just be able to play an astro championship as a freshman uh something that I've dreamed of as a kid and I'm here now and there's K-rated K- K-rated Pooner Show Monday he said he did not get it uh I mean the Tissues know like he says they're crazy each and every week uh playing um but you know you can't can't let it get to my head I should say um let me just football at the end of the day but you know just no happy business with this one

3:02:32oh none of us think we could be covered man oh man um I mean we're actually talking about this yesterday as well but you know I mean that's what they do that's what they do I mean we should go to the league uh god there you know play our game and no so the reason why not to play men on man two four three five the problem. My mom said, you know, just go out there Monday and just dominate the person that's

3:03:35confronting me. You know, just do what I've been doing for the last two to three weeks, I should say. But you know, they play men on men, so I'm just ready for the challenge. I mean, feels good, just say somebody going out there and playing men on men gets Ohio State receivers, it's something crazy. But you know, we just ready for the challenge. They said they're not chasing their game plan, but we got to go out there and show them the reason why not the play man on men. I mean, I don't really, if I be on a curve, I be on a curve, it's not really a big deal to me. It may definitely be a blessing for sure, just to be on a curve of a game, but you know, it's not really a jammer, it's a jammer mod, but I don't really think too much of it. I mean, no, not yet.

3:04:36Probably hit me after this season, just playing in the Colour football playoffs as a freshman, playing in the Rose Bowl as a freshman, playing in the Cotton Bowl, not in the National Championship, I mean, it's a blessing for sure. But I haven't hit me yet. My favorite catch, I would say we play Michigan State, the one I call the two defenders, definitely probably my favorite for sure. Or you could go the one from Iowa, I should say, and then answer, probably them two. I mean, like you said, it's pretty frustrating me having a game that I had in the Rose Bowl,

3:05:47and they're coming to the Cotton Bowl, just doing different things, chasing their scheme up against me. But I mean, like you said, whatever I could do to make, I mean, help the team win. It's not really a big deal for me. As long as we win, that's all I really care about, and it got us to the National Championship. It means a lot. We put a lot of work in this season. We have highs, we have lows, we have people cutting us out, but we hear now, we're just ready to pull on the show Monday. Oh yeah. Yeah.

3:06:49First of all, the one that's not so championship because there means a lot. I mean, you see everything that he bent on this year, people saying he should be fine, this is the third, but I mean, you see everything that he bent through this year. I mean, I see everything that he bent through this year, see everything, people saying my head on Twitter. I wasn't here, he first got the head coaching job, but I know this year for sure, we definitely got to win this for him. I mean, it's a lot of people in the league, I should say, I can't really say who, but you had guys like Odele, you had guys like Odele, you had Stephard Dicks, it means a lot of Michael Thomas, Chris Carter, just a lot of guys I played in NFL and stuff like that, but yeah, really them guys for sure. No, just keep going, you got it, you've next up for sure, really, I really appreciate that.

3:07:52You got two of the top defense, you've mentioned one of the top defense games, you see everything that you've mentioned. Physical defense, like people say, they like to play man, they're not changing their scheme, so we're just ready for the challenge, like you said, the best defense we probably go see all year, and we just gotta be ready to go out there Monday and just put on the show. I'm excited for Will, him first coming here in Ohio State, January, our first workout we had together, just everything that we did through the season, I'm just happy for Will for him to be in this position right now, but we got to finish the job and that's the winning thing that I did.

3:08:53It's pretty funny, I'm just only a freshman, but I'm just a blessing for sure, people who even say that, but I've got two, three more years left for callers, and I'm just focus on callers right now, and I'm not really worried about the NFL right now. It's very special for me, just being a freshman and playing the national stage, like a peer for national titles, something that I dreamed of as a very young kid, I'm just happy to be here, and I just can't wait to put on the show Monday for you guys. I mean, all of us, we were just sitting on the bench and we just see him hit the quarterback and the ball come out, and we all just got up and just started jumping up and down, we all

3:09:56decided, happy for Jack and that moment, we just knew that that moment, like, yeah, we're going to the daddy for sure. So, like, last important thing was to have to meet the highest school in the league, the national championship, how much that video, how much that video, how much that video, is that that much? I mean, it shows a lot, I mean, going from high school, winning three-state championships, Shamanama Donna, then coming to Ohio State, just competing for national title right now, and just showed that I picked two great schools, but I'm happy to be here and just came with the pool and show Monday. The coolest person? I mean, you got a lot, I can't really say just a specific person. You got a lot of great guys, Richard and Alie, like, oh, Dale, you had guys like,

3:10:58Stefan Deakes, a lot of other players in the world, just came to my mom, but really, really them two guys, Michelle O'Dell, and Stefan Deakes. Yeah, yeah, I mean, like they say, they play man, so, I mean, I'm just ready for the challenge and just get ready to go out there Monday and just no put them in the show. Thank you. The vice-geno, how you gave me? I said just keep golfers. I know the reason why I'm here. Like he said, just keep golfers and just no keeping the main thing and the best corner I've ever seen. I mean, I've faced a lot of great corners.

3:12:01I can't really say, but yeah, I've faced a great, a lot of great corners. I can't really put a name on it. I'm going to see what it's like to see me. What is your dream vacation? My dream vacation is, uh, Terence and K-Copes. I'm going to see what it's like to see me. I'm going to see what it's like to see me. I'm going to see what it's like to see me. I say both respect and frustration as well. But I mean, I doubt they come out there and try to put to me and they say they stick it to what they've been doing all year. That's playing man covers, which is ready for the challenge.

3:13:01Pretty good group. Christian Gary 29 is a great corner. 15, Lenard Moore. Two great guys are right there. Very physical, but you know, we all highest never see this. So we ready for the challenge. I say just no understanding the defense, understanding the defense, understanding the game plan, understanding what Coach Kelly is trying to get done. I mean, just coming in, I felt I progressed from my first game against Akron to now. I feel like I better each and every week. I mean, things slowed down a lot for me. But yeah, really just no understanding, Devices and no understanding what they're trying to do to me for sure.

3:14:13But I'm two guys. Great part of the best we go see all year for sure. Two physical guys. But you know, we're ready for the challenge that they're coming with. And that's the play man, no man. And you know, we ready to go on Monday. I mean, environment is pretty crazy. I mean, we just had a prayer, prayer, prayer meeting. And you know, we all, they all, we all discussed the issues because they discussed issues. And you know, we just want the work. I mean, not two and a half weeks we had off before Tennessee game. And we just came out there on Tennessee game.

3:15:13And we played with a chip on our shoulder. All throughout the playoffs. And we go continue to play with that chip on our shoulder. And that's the championship of Monday. Do you know how that very impactful, he had a very impact on my career I should say. Just going to his games as a very young kid, seven, eight years old. Him playing West Virginia, they played Clemson, Orange Bull, Don and Miami. I mean, just go there seeing his games. It was like, yeah, I definitely want to play on the stage. And I can't wait till I get to know that moment for sure. I'm going to tell you. Because they really just in his own, his own little space. He's just walking around trying to get his mind right trying to get his mind ready for the game. But you know, he, he just gave everybody hype in the locker room.

3:16:14And you know, just trying to get us ready to go to win the game. Yeah. Oh, yeah, for sure. I mean, you go play mangas Ohio State receivers. I mean, just be ready. Because, you know, we definitely go come out there and know. Give our best. And I mean, they said not to change what they do. So we just ready for the challenge. And here I go this time. Not a year later, definitely sometime my career in college, but not my first in college, I should say. I mean, just to be able to be in this position right now, it's not a blessing. Just to get here from Miami to be here. And I want to take it for granted. I'm ready to go out there Monday and give him my all. Yeah.

3:17:35Yeah. I mean, I was watching a game against, was it Georgia? Yeah. I was pretty sick myself because I was actually committed at that time. So, I mean, yeah, they left a bad test name off. But, I mean, we ready to go out there Monday to redeem myself. And they'll just put a show Monday. Yeah. I mean, I just laughed. But, you know, that's what they do. They're not going to change what they do just because we're a higher state. So, I'm just going to go out there and put it in. Put it in. Why not to play? Oh, man, oh, man, it gets us. So, we just got to go out there and show them Monday. So, keep setting it. I'm sorry.

3:18:39My journey here at Ohio State, prepared me a lot for not just checking the shit. I mean, just going through everything that I've been through. My first guy here, all the Matt Jules, all the hard workouts that we had, all the hard practices. I'm just preparing all of this for this moment. And I'm just ready to go out there and give it up my all on Monday. Okay. Okay. Yeah. We just squeezed this. One or nine. Two hundred, me is big and strong. Yeah. Yeah, I'll go. I'll take it now.

3:19:39One 20? Yeah, that's great. Yeah, pretty good. No problem. Yeah. Why? Why, I wasn't selling it. What I probably liked the most is the one against Michigan State, when I Colt over to defenders on their side line, party, like one or the one after that, I should say, or you go, the one against Iowa, probably them three, probably my best one professional. Oh, I mean, just will put in a bar on my area, and I just know how to make a

3:20:43Even though somebody was grabbing my face, I just know I still had to make a play because the ball touched my hand. So, when the ball is able to think, I have to make a play no matter how the ball comes at me. After a big game, they really feed us Chick-fil-A or piece out of the game. So it's really either Chick-fil-A or piece. So yeah, I'm probably Chick-fil-A for sure. It went pretty good. I just speak with their thing, going right in what they think is wrong. Which is a lot of the older guys, the boys and their opinions on what we need to do to come to get as a team.

3:21:47But that me and Deftly helped us in a big way because it helped us on the field as well. We played at a great football right now and we just got to tell you that on Monday. Deftly got emotional. Can't really say what really was said because players only and coaches only. But it would definitely be some stuff said that people took and that's the reason we plan to run. We plan right now. How are we wearing some back-up? You know, maybe it's a matter of time. Yeah, make helped me a lot this year. Him being our older guy in the room. Me and Carl are in the end as well. And Brennan is in all the guys in the receiver room as well. Me just a great guy as well. It's very smart. I mean, make just been a big part of the reason I'm having a season I'm having a look. Because he's been a big older guy. Been there. Been a lot of great guys in that room.

3:22:47Chris Olalvegaer was in Marvin Harrison Jr. So he's seeing all the greats I've been through there. And he teaching us the right thing and the right way and the buck out way for sure. I was along with him. It's a lot of fun. I was in the other way. Did you feel underrated as an officer? No, I was not. I was really underrated. You know, right? I mean, some actors got me different. I mean, I just feel like I had all the office behind me. I had just like down like a crew and work sites. But it doesn't matter if you get here enough on a stop or a wreck. What was it like to make that exception? You know, I felt good. I felt like I had a hard work and I stood out the screen. I had a teaching echo. You gave me notice paid off. I didn't know this way. I was playing with the camera. They give me two deep breaths. True freshmen out the length of an office. I'm two idiots. I'm just working. I'm just working.

3:23:47I'm just working. I work my tail off. I can make a roll for myself. I can train specifically. I was like, I got a lot more aggressive. I gave some weight now. I'm pushing 200 pounds now. I'm not against Harvard. Coach Patricia, what have you seen for the day? He's a great guy. I like him a lot. He's a great guy. He cares about his players. He's a master in the behinders. He's my respect. He's a football player. He's taught me that I felt so I felt he was a good player. Whether it's like the starter or occasional piece. What is he going to expect to see from this day? Do you feel a lot more focused here? Or are you less interested in that? I feel like I'm starting to feel a lot more focused here. Oh yes for sure.

3:24:47I feel like I'm starting to lose to everything here. I feel like I'm just trying to be a lot more on the last year. I'm like I said, I'm not going to make a roll with my players. What? I was going to say, my mindset at the beginning was starting to scratch. I'm letting too much of the shadow of the national team. How was the team really embraced that mindset and say competitive? You know, you have one of our ideas so far. We're trying to stay determined. I know just trying to dominate. We're not learning in the past anymore. It's like it never happened. We're just trying to get another one. What are the coaches that you're having? The coaches that you're having an A and B rule. You have a B rule that you're going to have a full one in. You have to get to a good position. Obviously right now playing Stony and Friess A. You just trying to craft myself and make myself more versatile for the team. Where are we going to do? They're getting some more last part of it. That's kind of limiting his reps. Obviously he's living in like a playoff. So obviously I'm leaving this now. And to him, you're already in line with this and all this work.

3:25:47I mean, skipping, skiing better. Thank you. Appreciate it. You know, they have to be in the line. There's some stuff that at least we did over there in order to name. That we'll see if we're able to implement something here. I'm sure some may be out. Others, depending on what our guys do best. Probably a time I see Jay because it's like it's a fresh start. I do say the eyes on him. And I think it's an opportunity to be multiple and use him. And what he does best, you know. So that's the exciting thing. You know, when you really studied what coach Patricia has done in the past. Is he likes to take like who are like who are our players? And then let's build it around those nights. And I think CJ has had a hell of a winner. I think he's one of those guys. So I'm excited to see how we create up a new zone into the spring. Does that mean you see how to be like flow is more of an edge defender? You've kind of definitely been to guys. I think yeah, I think he has that. I think that's exactly what kind of like potential CJ has. It's the ability to, you know, get on the edge, move around.

3:26:48The nice thing about that is that you're not handicapped. Just with CJ doing one thing off the edge. You think you have the ability because he understands conceptually. Zone drops linebacker terminology, right? You can get really creative how you use him. But I think he definitely needs to utilize it. Whereas a just got to the heart back. Go go be destructive. What's happening? See about your new. I don't know. I don't know. Find out on Monday. What about Matt? What about Matt as a leader of you guys? Is this coaches? How are you? How's he all fit with the guys? And how are you seeing that? And how do you feel about the higher? I love the higher. I got a lot of respect for coach Patricia. I got her since he worked me a Microsoft back here. And what we were talking about that when you first was. And the interview process is kind of how fast time goes. But. I'm really excited just to continue to learn. Like I said, like there's some.

3:27:49Because there's some terminology that when I was at Notre Dame, you can use and I can at least speak some of his language with what he's called things before. And you're trying to morph everything together right within these things that we've done. What he knows what we do. Like it's a lot. And. But he's been incredible with. I think the staff he's very organized. He's detailed. You'll have. Constant clear communication. You know, and they're going to get together at this time of the movement. Like you're just efficient in your wallet. And it's been a lot like when you're come from. Outside and you come back into it. You have to try to catch them up on the recruiting board. It's in. You know, like you have a lot of these conversations. Okay, what are we looking for at these positions now? How do you see it? Because you don't under one coordinator. You might see a my linebacker needs to be this. And under this coordinator, well, I think the my backer needs to be this. So you have to have those conversations at every position. And you just kind of keep going through. And. I'm just excited to learn.

3:28:50I think the more systems, I mean, luck. Played the system here in college. Played the system underneath. Vagnolo. Played the system. Well played the system under Greg Williams. That is Alan. Coach of Galagol. And Jim. Like. Every one of those. There's like different terminology for everything. So you're just you're learning a different language. Call them think you know, I mean, there's concepts. And. I mean, I think you're going to collect over time. What you think is. Really good stuff and how you do stuff. A big deal different. I'm just really excited to learn from that. I'm so excited. He seemed very excited over there. Talking really to be here. Yeah. Focusing college with. Yeah, whatever. So long. What's his person? How do you like to meet you guys? Yeah. He's been great. I mean, his energy is incredible. He's very. He is. He's authentically excited to be back in college football. He could tell there's like a yearning to get back to. Like the why you got the coaching right is the impact young people. It's the impact. And teach the game of football. And so. A few times it's been a fun, you know, kind of like talking to the guys.

3:29:51In a sense like. He's excited to just teach more. You know what I mean? And. Kind of ironically like you know, sit learning a lot of things that chips at last year, right? Yeah. Get back. And I'm just excited to. And so he has that excitement. He's done a phenomenal job, I think of getting to know the players. Just kind of like walking around versus like popping in, making sure that he's in front of them and they get to know him. And he gets to know them and it's a lot that you can imagine when you come in. You have all these guys, right? And. Trying to learn all these guys. I'm learning recruiting, trying to learn the staff, trying to learn dynamics. Like it's a lot, but he's handled it really well. You know, he's an old school ball coach. He's a grinder. So he's really good jobs. James, I probably not going to need to do much this spring. How much more can you get down with the young guy? I'm not telling him that. So I got to do a lot. But in terms of Ryan Dair, he said, you know, 50% 75% or whatever. How much more can you get down with the young guys when they're not worried too much about the senior? Yeah, I think.

3:30:51I mean, you're always just looking for competition, especially like in spring ball. That's what it's all about, right? You're trying to have. It's so cliche, but it's true. Like iron sharpens iron mentality of. You want your room to be super competitive. To where. Hey, the guy on fire, he makes a play. My next set of four plays I go out there. I have the point, right? And it's a constant driving of the room. Forward. So. Yeah, son, he gets 50 or how many reps off 50% rubber coach said. That means more opportunity for somebody else to play, right? So that be more for our values that scheme flexibility with our value. Pay pierce around. We set TJ Riley. You like all these guys stove. We're all going to get more ruts. I think it's great. So we got to do it this point of season. But I think you know, yes, there's still stuff that within their level of a sunny is that he's going to be. Clon to try to get those reps. Because he's a he's a true pro. And.

3:31:51That's been the most enjoyable thing about working with him is like. You get a kid who's played safety. His whole life comes to the back. Or he just wants to learn the why behind everything. And. You know, very similar to the fact of Cody like we have guys where that easy to work with. You're not trying to like not worried about texting anybody in our own. About coming over and trying to learn all. You know, I mean like where you at, you know, like. They're obsessed with the game of football. They're always around when they're at class. So it's like. It makes it really easy as a coach because they're passionate for the game. So strong. You mentioned C.J. in terms of the higher with the map. Just what can sunny like what do you envision more with him with all of that stuff? I think I think we just have a lot of guys with a lot of length. It's about sunny styles long run or velveteers long run like. It's crazy because you see sunny. Like, okay, this guy like. Wish I was built like that when I played and then you see our Val stand next to sunny.

3:32:54Like, you know, those, you know what I mean? And so like, and then you look across the room like as the room warms up. You're like holy smokes like we just have a bunch of guys. And that's a lot of credit to make coach made as a phenomenal job. I was just. Talking to burn about it like. To see even our media guys what they looked like when they showed up during. Like the whole of the whole on that. He run and they're kind of hanging out during practice. And see the high school bodies to see what they look like today before they go red. And like the shoulders are all like everything is just different. And they've been indoctrinated into the brotherhood. So I think you know, there's just a lot to work with. So what he's really good at right is like he's talked about it. One year he has junior say out will even get us Mike variable, you know, Roosevelt Colvin. And those guys. And a couple of years later he has Brandon spikes. So he's like, okay, I just I just put his blitz brand in the middle all the time.

3:33:55So he was 260 pounds and he's. He always says he was my best nose guard. From Mike backer, right? And then the year after that, he gets, you know, got Jamie Collins and Dante high talent. So now we can do a lot of stuff, right? So. They're not just like, hey, this is what we're doing. We got plenty of people in there. Hey, here's what we got. Let's utilize it. So that's what strength will be. While going the lab and figure out what that means, I'm sure through spring ball, there'll be like. Hey, here's what we do really well as unit. This unit is going to be different, right? I mean, you know, there's a lot of production. So you know, we'll be different. So you kind of got to reform your own identity and. You're re-hearned that silver bullet big name and mantra. How many guys can look at our bell? I'm just like he's on a very good track. Is that it? It's just like this. It's just a lot. Right now he's locked in. He's done a great job becoming a leader. Coming out of his shell. I think I think for Velley, it's all about consistency and just preparation.

3:34:55And I'm proud of our bell. You know, he's through the season. You got way better at, you know, a lot of it's little things. Just note taking and stuff. Like sometimes these kids are always on their phones and stuff. Not like the meeting rooms or anything like that, but just naturally. So like to get out of pen and paper and like. You hear things and I mean, oh yeah, I got it. What you do until your dog tired and then you forget. Because you know what I mean, but when you really understand it, you know what I mean? Like go play faster. He got so much better through the year. Just a lot of that's because of Cody like becoming a pro. And then now it's like Sonny's pulling him along. He's pulling pain along the pain to pull in TJ and Riley and Eli. So I can still like. So I kind of love the competition room right now. And the way it's made up. Yeah, that was on a great path. How many different guys do you feel like can be in that Mike spot? But that was obviously losing Cody and now having that. I think that's something that's fluid as we kind of go. Because you know, week one, Sonny actually started at Mike for us.

3:35:56And Sonny smart off to play them all. Our Vel is smart off the play them all. Painter is smart off the play them all. And that's also like how did you like depends on what what scheme you're running. Where they how do they be utilized as well? You know what I mean? So you say my like my backer, you know, whether it's Tommy, I can very grow up in research, two different people and Cody's different than those two. So I challenge to like a lot of the guys that come in. And so you got to learn both the more you understand about the scheme in general. The faster you will play. You know what I mean? Like if I just sit here and I say, hey, I got there Mike. My drop is this and that's all I need to know. Like, well, no, football happens so fast and all the shifts and motions that like, if you're out there just playing and you're waiting for a call and you're just reacting, like you're so worried about what's going on on your side of the ball. You haven't recognized that the offense is telling you something's what they're doing. So if I'm out there and also I'm not getting a call,

3:36:57I know what the call should be. Like, hey, are we playing? You know, let's go. Now listen, you get it. You can look. I can see, okay, here's what the tight ends doing. That's what the backs doing. Here's what plays are coming. If you just line up and play as a runner pass every time, like you know, stay in a chance. You got to eliminate plays in your mind by seeing what the offense is doing. Like they tell you a story every time they line up. They just window dressing. My people motion and show us to try to, okay, are they trying to do man's own indicators? Are they trying to make sure that they're getting the same formation on the same place? But they just shift the people and then they motion and they move and they don't want you to recognize. So if we're always worried about what work you don't mean, so the more you know, the faster you can play. You're not sitting there thinking, oh, what do I have for you? You're reacting. It's where I know you have. So my challenge to guys is like, there's always a no both. So I think a lot of it would just be on depth of sure guys get, you know, if Sunnies are only doing 50 to 75% of the plays, then probably more guys get more will reps than they had because we need more will bodies. That's technically where Sunnies started. But we'll rotate them through.

3:37:57Let the production kind of show what it does. I think sometimes, you know, you'll live with some mistakes just from getting into this spot but you'll be able to judge too like who's actually getting in the book. You know, I mean, who's actually studying? How much of a break have you seen from Sunnies this time of year ago through the National Championship game and then what's next for you? Man, I mean, definitely, I know Sunnies has big goals and you should. I do as well for him to see how far he's come. You know, first thing kind of stands out is just like his, his footwork has gotten so much better. You know, when you're in the boxes of the linebacker, you got to be able to remember loop thickly to say it all the time and you got to be slow until it's time to be fast. And when you're twitchy like he is, a lot of times, you know, when you're about safety, you're used to pulling a trigger and rolling like you got to learn how to shuffle and not cross over and he got so much better as a year or not. I think a lot of people question whether he be able to hold up his

3:38:57Caliwise and you know, he was, he was great, you know, he's the season guy. He's really good with his hands. He's a really natural ability to snag. We'll keep challenging him. I think he should be a dominant guy in coverage. Like he needs to be a guy that we can put on a tight end and be like, he's not going to be in the catch on the ball. You know what I mean? Because he has that athleticism. I think we need a challenge in there. Challenge them. I think everything is just, this is not just Sunnies. It's everybody's urgency in zone coverage. I mean, the urgency with you, if you have the break on the football to close that space, not at the ball carrier, have so much space on you to cut and make him miss. It's critical. I think sometimes he's, he can do so athletic that, you know, you can get away with some stuff. And he knows anything that I'm saying right now, here he knows. So the best part is a lot of times like he'll come to me before film and already said, man, coach on that play, I should have, you know what I mean? Like he knows. And the best part is that he's humble enough. Our whole problem is that they just want to be, they want to be pushed and they want to be coached. And so the thing that he has to ask for, right?

3:40:00Like, how is that? Like, what do you mean for me? Just, just keep making sure like you're pushing it. Let me settle. Let me settle. So he's probably the best in the room with that. Do you look at Sunnie and Arvel as being this kind of your top-view guys right now? Yeah, I mean, I think going into it, you know, I think it's a, just accomplish the plan and whatever play was called, whatever it may be, just go out there and execute it. One thing we've been preaching is execution is really the motive. You know, anything may be called, but as long as everybody's mindset is, has one mentality, which is just go get it and, you know, make sure there's no yard gain. I think that changes the mindset of everybody on the cerebral defense. Did they feel like big changes to you all as they were ongoing? I mean, at first, like, you know, it was a tough loss. So, you know, as any of you felt like everything was big, but then when you kind of just take your time to look at everything and analyze everything, it was just like, man, we just, we just need to keep everything simple. Make everything and just, just about us and, you know, not like feel like we're,

3:41:01you know, making everything about them. It's, you know, we can dictate what they do. And I think that was the mindset. Did it make? Let it make it wrong? Yeah. JT, I know you get to watch a little bit of video of Caleb and Nathan and Jordan. What stands out about that group from your vantage point? Oh, they're respected. They're relentless, man. I mean, Nathan, Caleb and, I mean, everybody in that BIA Corps, yes, they can cover, but, you know, when it's time to, you know, stop the run, they'll come down 12 yards out, however far off the front line, the script is coming, you know, though the nose in there and I respect them for that, because, you know, there's going to be times where we need them to make them tackles. And I mean, they're displaying it this whole season. Yeah, how critical are they in a game of this magnitude? Obviously, everybody's critical. But you know what I mean? Yeah. Sort of the last line of the fence, but sometimes the last line of the fence is in the middle of it. Yeah. I mean, they play a huge role. I mean, like you said, it takes everybody from the front four. It's like a check reaction. The front four don't do their job. Then, you know, it falls, you know, the back end. So we off to work as a collective unit.

3:42:01And I think there's a reason that there's 11 of us out there. And, you know, it's crazy. If one person is going to do their job, then, you know, something can go wrong. But if we just all continue to stay, communication with one another, continue to just lay each other. You know, we have each other's backs and just trust one another. And, man, I think that that performance is going to be off the charts. So the right Kelly-Anne Stitz, WSYF? G-T, how would you describe the mentality of the defense right now getting this opportunity for Greenhouse and the Warden? Yeah, hungry and thankful. I mean, we know how the last time when, you know, we had a chip on our shoulder. I mean, we were riding high before that game. And we took that loss and we came back how to make a couple changes. But I think we understand what, you know, everything's at stake right now. You know, just fighting to where another house, stage jersey for the next game. That's what's on stake. And just to be able to represent this state and this team. I mean, we understand what's on the line. And, you know, we're just hungry and blessed that we get this opportunity to play in the Rose Bowl. Right behind your Adam King, WBNS.

3:43:01What do you remember most about walking off the field in Eugene? What was kind of going on in your mind in that moment? I mean, there was a... I don't think anybody imagined it. Imagine us losing. You know, I didn't. That's for sure. And I think after that it was kind of head deep. But I understand it that, man, we still... There's still a lot of ball left to be played. I mean, you can let it sting for a little bit. But, you know, if you let it carry over too long, then, you know, there goes... There goes your whole season by. I think we did a great job of just understanding, coming together in this room right here. Not being afraid to display or hold accountability for one another. And, you know, as that happened, we came back, we grouped, and, you know, we're just... We're just going right now. And I'm just blessed for those specific moments, you know, losing. I mean, no one wants to lose, but the testimonies and the things you're taught within those little situations. Speaks of all of them.

3:44:02It's after all, right? Letterman, right? Hey, Jay, what did he see from Kenyatta in the last couple of weeks? Was there like a push from him and then there were many conversations with him? He seemed like he was playing some special ball in Tennessee. Yeah, I mean, that's my boy. He's in the R2X club too, but, you know, Kenyatta. I mean, every time his numbers call, he goes out there and makes the most of it, no matter where we add in the game. And he goes out there, he's just hungry. He wants to go make plays and, you know, we see it in practice, so it's not surprising to us. Bill Rebino, let's play this back. Dylan gave us obviously a very elusive and he's not very tall. How important it could be to just kind of stay in your past rush lanes and neglect a lot of balls and kind of make a difference that way? Yeah, I think it just comes out being disciplined. No one who you're playing against, like you said, he's sharply very elusive. I mean, he can, he is making throws. I mean, he get out the parking to everything.

3:45:02So I think for us, we just have to discipline and just continue to just meet with Coach Jay, meet with the coach's nose and understand how we can just eliminate that. One question about you and Jack. I mean, your personality seems to be a little different. You're more on the quiet side. Yeah. You've played together four years, both five store guys, kind of describe your relationship with him, friendship with him, and just kind of how you cop along each other. Man, that's my brother. Like he said, we're different but very alike. I think outside, like you said, he's louder and quiet, but, you know, once we're on that field, we're like the same person. We'll do anything for this team. You know, we'll die for our players and we'll give everything we got. Room together for four years, correct? Yeah. Fall camps. Yeah, sometimes go over there. It's the go over there. So yeah. There's the neat one who's the messy one. We have our share of days when we, when I'm neat, he's neat or, you know, we might both be messy, but we do a good job.

3:46:02Yeah. Oh, I'd probably say I would better kick the jack though. Tony Gertman, like I held. When you're playing a team for the second time, and that was almost a season to go by now, how much of, are you at square one with this scouting preparation? How much do you take from that game? How much do you avoid taking so that you don't have any preconceptions of what you're going up against offense on the offense line? I say it's pretty 50-50. I mean, that game, like you said, it was a while ago, but at the same time, they elevated as a team. And so did we. So we understand that they had, they made some changes for sure. You know, there's, there's a certain density we can take back from that game, but we also understand that they went on a little run after that. And we can see that they elevated as an offense. So we just got to continue to watch those games, dissect the other games and just continue to see what stands out and what they change from the past game. We got a couple calls on zoom that will wrap up with first we have Nick Hamilton from nightcast media.

3:47:03Nick. I just wanted to ask you basically about the synergy of this defense and how you guys were able to not only celebrate the triumphs but get through the adversity be able to be this top notch defense that you are in college football today. Here, keep the question one more time. Yeah, no problem. One to ask you about the synergy you are able to develop over course of the season, obviously celebrating the triumphs but also getting through the adversities to where you go all other top notch defense that you all are today. Yeah, I mean, like you said, we went through a lot of trials to trials, but there's also, there's a lot of things we can take away from all the wins and losses. And from those, those wins, we understood that hey, we can be the best defensive country and from those losses, we understand that there's still things that need be fixed. And I think when you take all that in at once, they come down to the common goal or the common talk which is you can there's always learning points everywhere.

3:48:03And depending how we dissect those games or how we just continue to come as one and elevate, you know, we continue to just collect all those learning points and just continue to grow from them. And then one final question, Joey Coppin, Columbus Dispatch, Joey. JT, what have you guys done better in the, especially in the Tennessee game and just late in the season, you think about turning some of the pressures that you've gone on in quarterbacks and the sacks and getting home in some of those situations. I think it was more just understanding the defense as a whole, understanding everybody's job. The thing as the season went on, we had to understand that, you know, we have to know what's going on in the back, can we have to know what's going on to the linebacker crew to understand what plays we have room of freedom. And I think once we understood that and got a better understanding of everybody's job. I mean, it showed this play because everybody knows what each other is doing. It's not like the linebacker know what they're doing.

3:49:03The corners and B.I. they know only their job. I think we all know each other's job and we continue to ask each other questions on, you know, if they're listening how they can get to the quarterback and, you know, if I'm dropping, playing quarterbacks back and asking Cody on how to open field tackle. So, you know, we just kind of lean on each other's understanding because, you know, like I said, like Denzel knows how to play corner better than I know how to play corner. So, you know, he has more, more wisdom at the position than I do. JT, thank you very much. Thank you. Thanks, man. More and more. Can you tell us similar, will you role be in terms of playing the football you did in Denver? I don't know that yet. I kind of just mentioned previously. I don't know my role. I don't know the engine out yet. So, once we will get, you know, through the protocols and NFOPA, we'll talk about, you know, the schemes and everything. Great. Hello, so welcome. When you were in Denver in the three, four, where did you find your self most comfortable, most effective in water?

3:50:04I played a lot of different positions in Denver. I mean, early in my year, I played zero. I played three, two, one. I mean, I definitely more comfortable in a shaded position, mainly being a three technique and five technique. That's why I found myself to be more comfortable, whether I'm standing up or I'm not, whether it's runner or pass. Those seem to be my best fits. And what is your impression of deep-carose defense and whole environment in Seattle from afar? It seems like he holds in on a defense a lot. I can't really say too much about that. Yeah, I don't know. I know Pete Carroll very little. So, I'm just trying to figure out more and I'll give you a better answer later. What's the reputation around the league about the C-Harm? You know, hard-knows, hard-hat type of team. Definitely on a little more lack side as opposed to being a stuck up or military style. Which is definitely good because then this program is one of a lot of football games. It's been super-excessive for many years. As long as I've been alive and as long as I've been watching football.

3:51:05And, definitely, this has been a good program. And Pete Carroll has been a hell of a coach for a long-sock of memory. He and Beckin is college today. So, I'm looking forward to experiencing that. Child, while? Yeah, I know you said he doesn't know yet what your role is going to be. But what kind of player are you that you don't understand who haven't watched the C-Harm? But what kind of player does he have to get? Definitely a high motor. Definitely not a one-trick-pulling type of player. I like to attack. You know, whether it's first or first to before or now. I like to attack. I'm always on the apply pressure. I'm definitely just a high motor guy. I'm not even. Maybe. Are there any Anderson for me? Nice to meet you. Nice to meet you. Yeah, this is not a team that really makes big splash sign-ins in brand new seed. Do you think going into it that Seattle would be in play? No, not at all. It's kind of like being a kid at the candy store here. You know, got a whole bunch of different options coming at you. You're hearing a whole bunch of different crazy things.

3:52:05And, you know, you only get to choose one. And this is the place that we both chose each other. And I mean, I'm loving Seattle so far. I like these colors. For real. What did you got to do in Seattle and see since you've been here? Not much. Just kind of just drive around the city exploring. Get down to the market a little bit. I want to get on the Ferris wheel. Do some more like touristy type things, you know. I'm new to the city and I got a lot to learn about the city. Larry. Yeah, there's been a lot of comparisons with you to Michael Bennett. I wonder if you know Michael Bennett at all. And if you think those are actually. I know Michael Burr Bennett. Like, I don't know nothing about it, but besides his style of play. But I'm honored to be considered in the same conversation as him. And style of play, you know, he's a Hall of Fame type of deep lime. And I've known about this. I was a kid. I mean, last time he played here, I was in high school. So, you know, it's cool to. It kind of came full circle a little bit watching him on TV. And now I'm being kind of compared to him in a way. You know, I mean, I'm not touching the surface of Michael Bennett.

3:53:07You know, he's a Hall of Famer. And I'm not there yet. So, you know, I just have to keep doing my due diligence to be a better player. Corbin. Hey, Dream out. Welcome to Seattle. I know you get to play several seasons for Vic Fangio in the three, four style defense. And Seattle's playing a similar system now dating back to last year. I think the defensive line and what do you think is most important to be successful in that system? Maybe fundamentals or just playing style to be successful? Um, just from what I learned, being gap sound and being patient has always been the biggest thing. And that's how we've been successful when I was in Denver. Um, just kind of like relying on each other. I know that sounds kind of cliche, but like this kind of like the, the realm of being in three, four defense. You got to really rely on the guys behind you and the guys on the side of you to really make their, to do their job to make your job easier. Bob. Yeah, Dream up. You're a, you're going to have a state violence that you didn't start playing football to you or junior high school.

3:54:10But you played basketball so that next, just, uh, what made you, I guess, to say to go play football and then was that a hard decision? Did all the kind of away from basketball? No, no, I'll, I'll always love football first. Uh, it was just kind of just, uh, just playing it out, you know, I let a hoop, but you know, football was definitely about calling and giving. I was, uh, 265 pound, powerful and I was like, see, I'm six, three, some change. So, you know, I kind of chose a route that guy gave me. No, I'm not six eight. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You've been loaded. You just talked a little bit about that. Uh, that. I think that some of you said, you know, for his kind of talent, I was thinking, you might wait more on that. Um, just for a standpoint, like I always get like over, over shadowed over look, whether it's, uh, and something, you know, saying like. I feel like I do a lot more than what can be, uh, sitting by the, the eyes of the inexperienced, you know, scout.

3:55:12And I do a lot of different dynamic things that help make place for others, you know, I'm definitely an active player. I'm always doing something, whether in a run or pass game. So, you know, I think that goes on. Sometimes and, um, I'm looking forward to playing people on notice. Brady. What, uh, what do you like to do outside of football? Uh, big gamer. Um, I'm definitely, I'm, I'm again to a lot of chess lately. So, uh, just to expand my brain. Uh, I'm trying to get into reading, but if it's not supported related, I, I really not interested in reading that much. But mainly just video gaming in chess. And then when we write and say your name, do you prefer gray or gray? I mean, you can say, you can say Dreymont Jones, I mean, but like just, I feel like personally just call me Drey because it's easy because people like to f my name of a lot. And they call me Drey Montet. I don't know why you put a Dreymont, T in my name or Drey Montet. Whatever you want to say, I was going to go by Drey to keep it simple. Thank you. Michael Sean.

3:56:12Hey, Drey, what's specifically you bring to the C-Mars as a pass question? Uh, some of the new era of the pass question, you know, someone was on the little lighter side of the average through technique and bring that explosiveness, that quickness. Someone was great with their hands, someone was very extensible and someone was a go getter when it comes to the run-and-pass game. Appreciate it. Yeah. John Boyle. Yeah, Drey Jones, that was said after the trade, after the signing, that you actually got, they wanted it to trade last year. The Russell was the trade, but Denver said no. It was that time you were aware of it all? Yeah, I was aware. I mean, like, shit. I mean, they just traded me from the jump, but it was cool to, I guess, it kind of came full circle for Seattle a little bit. I was including to the trade and Denver said no, and then Denver kind of, I don't want to say that word, but Denver didn't pay my part respect. So I'm here because they respect me from the jump.

3:57:16All right, anything else, guys? Thank you. So, everything's doing well, and so it's been really good. How much were you talking to Kayne as you got here and kind of going through that first year? Obviously, he's doing his own thing, but just what this is all like? Yeah, I think having him go through the whole process has been a big thing. Kind of having him in my corner just to talk to you or call him whenever I need. We still talk a lot, and I asked him questions whenever. So a lot for Scott here, he was still here in the training and everything, but he had a fail. So I have him whenever, so it's like, what's it like watching you now in the NFL with the Texans? You guys not seeing you know pretty well doing, and living out his dreams? Yeah, no, it's going to come. And super happy for him. He's down there in Houston, you know, CJ and everything, I think he really likes it. So I'm excited to see what he does this next coming year.

3:58:16Just how different your career will be? Wasn't he a college student in the club pool? Not in all this things? Just wondering if you feel like you're not missing anything? Yeah, I think you kind of realized that this is your life. You've got to come in here and play a high state playing with the best ever since the day. You know, you've got to make sacrifices, what you want to get out of it in the end. You know, long-fIGHT school, just live on your own. It's good for you to teach us a lot, and it just makes you better overall. Did you graduate from here when you were two? You have got like Riley and Peter Andrew you, and you looked up to you guys, and you're going to pick that role now. You have got to have a kind of leadership quality, so you can have to move off the agency grow, and you know, you know, just kind of, you know, just show them the way around the building. You know, just how we do it here at the high state, how we operate. You know, they've, you know, I think all three young guys coming in have done a great job.

3:59:17You know, they've, you know, great work ethic. You know, I think, you know, for me, you know, the offseason, it was more like a lead by example, kind of thing, and springing a little bit of, you know, vocal leadership in there as well, but you know, just kind of work with them and you know, kind of showing them how, you know, build a guy's and how we do things in the room is, you know, definitely carried on to that. Being a part of that championship round last year, I guess what did you learn from that? What did they went on? You guys went on that, I guess, what do you learn about what it takes for us to do? This is just a big problem. I would just say, you know, staying together, you know, our biggest thing was each week was just trying to keep that group together each week. You know, I think last year we had such a strong bond together, you know, with all the guys. I think that was really the motivation, you know, just staying together and like a, like a band of brothers. James has talked about the past. I think you have decided in our reality, you know, kind of made that two-deep, but James has talked about the past, and you're playing well, you're making plays consistently in practice.

4:00:18You're going to play playing well. You're going to be seeing us doing good, how we're pressing this stuff that approach you though. You're not going to log into those guys' friends, you're making a play, you're going to be playing well. I mean, I think, you know, just starts with, you know, coming out to practice every day, you being up, you're head down, just making sure you're going hard, having a school play, you know, knowing what you're doing, you know, so you can build that trust. But I think, you know, just having the guys around, letting them like Sunny, R.V.L. Payton, you know, you know, who's, you know, been in there, you know, playing in games, everything like that. You know, to lean on and ask some questions and stuff, so you're ready. Where you said that was like, what was the problem? I'm like 227. What's the problem for 40-ball and how to roll? It's still 225 right now, but I think it'll bump up to like 238, so I'm just getting a little more. Great, Michelle. So, I thought that, do you feel a sense of urgency to be part of that two-deep to provide depth, or maybe more than that, this season? How do you go into your two?

4:01:19Yeah, I mean, I think all right now, kind of focus on it, just getting better someday. I think that's kind of what it springs for, is, you know, individually just, you know, continue to perfect your craft every single day. So that's a technique, or, you know, scheme, or whatever it means. But, uh, well, yeah, I mean, I think, uh, that's, you know, definitely, you know, something in my head, you know, obviously, you know, came here to play. So, I think that's definitely a big thing. I'm just saying I had the chance and getting, getting past those third downs, converting on those third downs. I mean, that's what we got to be better at. Um, within the day, we got to put in the ends on, for not doing that, we're not doing our job. So, are you guys creating more explosive plays, as an offense? Right, I think, uh, you stick with it. Um, you know, the explosive plays are going to come, and now we've got to trust that, and they'll be there for us for sure. Coach Sins has been here for, uh, high as and lows over the many, many years. He's been with this program now. What sort of his message to your group right now, or when you're turning to him, what, what is he saying, as far as how to get through this?

4:02:21Yeah, so I think it's just really just coming and attacking every day as you would, um, regardless. And, uh, you know, staying, staying even, even through hardship and, uh, attacking it, attacking it the same way every day. Um, that's really all you can do. And, uh, you just get a little better every day and see where it takes you. Based on the way things are already we're setting up, but then also the way, um, um, Jason Simmons was calling the game on Saturday. It seemed like tight ends are going to be a big part of this as you guys are trying to pull out. And what role do you think you guys are going to have in trying to get this offense? Yeah, I think we, I think the role is always try to help the offense move the ball. And, well, they were called upon to do that. And the past game or the run game, we just got to step up and do our job at a high level. Uh, whatever you asked from us, we just got to do it at high level and let the offense go. You're some of the leaders on the offense. Some of the leaders, I would say Gus is a big leader. I mean, he's been doing it for a while. And I, and it's someone that everyone trust, um, is going to do his job at a high level.

4:03:25Um, I think we have, uh, Hudson's a good leader too as well. Um, obviously, he's a quarterback. So he takes on that leadership role. And, um, I think we just have a good amount of leaders, uh, you know, throughout the offense. We were told George might be fairly close to getting back what we mean to get him back in the mix with the tight ends. Yeah, it'd be great. I mean, George is a great athlete. So having him out there can only help. Um, you know, we're really excited about him and what he can do on the field. So it'd be great. They don't care about that. So you know, it's, it's developing yourself to have a great mindset early. Uh, you know, having that grown man mindset at 18 years old, uh, it's, it's really important because a lot of people don't really care about feelings. So it's about, you know, just coming up here, you know, being a man that you think you are, you know, having to go out there and, you know, prove it. David, what's been the easiest thing in the most difficult thing about your transition years so far? Uh, the easiest thing I would say, I mean, it's really not that easy about this. Uh, you know, coming to a top program, I think you know, especially coming off from national championship.

4:04:26Uh, it's really not easy. You know, they're, they're pushing for the same thing and trying to go back and back. So I mean, we just got to come up here. We got to, we got to step up. Uh, but the hardest thing I would say, uh, you know, just, just having to grow up, uh, you know, going from high school where, you know, I've been the man there for three years. So I mean, coming up here where you started the bottom again. So I mean, I told my parents this all the time, like, you know, I think my history is repeating itself. Cause when I went into high school, the high school, I went to her a part house. So I, I was at the bottom there and had to work my way up. And I feel like that's just repeating so here. And I met the bottom here. You know, I put myself at the bottom. So I have to work my way up to the top. And so, you know, just going to get these guys, they're competing every day. You're not going to get a day off where, you know, she was just coming out here and just, just be essence. So I mean, you got to be a piece of cute all the time. When you see what a guy like, sorry, David, can you just get up? When you see what a guy like JJ did last year coming in here playing immediately, is that inspired you to want to be able to do the same thing as a freshman? I mean, definitely, you know, just just what he did last year is a true freshman.

4:05:28You know, him being able to play an impact team like that. Obviously, I want that for myself. So, you know, I'm going to push myself to that limit, you know, try to be on the field here when that's my plan. That's the biggest reason I came here because I have an opportunity to play here one. So, me having that opportunity is good and, you know, I'm always going to come out here and compete. Like I said, I'm putting myself at the bottom, so I'm working. I'm going to work every day like I'm at the bottom and I got to get to the top. How, what do you feel like it's going to take for you to get from the bottom to the top? You know, just discipline. They're big on discipline here and, you know, competitive and excellent. So, it's just staying consistent every day, just doing the rights, having little to none, mental errors. That's going to give me on the field. And, you know, I do what I'm supposed to do. That's what give me on the field. How do you manage those expectations for people to think that you should be playing week one, let me see some of them. How do you manage people? You know, I don't really let it get to my head because, you know, like I'm here, you know, I got dudes in the room that are, you know, like IGB, you know, he's going to be a three-year star.

4:06:29I got your main, first in all American, you know, he's going to play this year too. So, I can't let what people say on the net, you know, get to me because, you know, anybody can say, oh, he's going to play this year. But, you know, I actually got to prove it. So, I just got to come out here, you know, work, you know, and that spot. What's the most important thing you've learned so far in your three months here? Um, competing every day. That's the biggest thing. Having to compete, you know, these guys appear. They take winning and losing to heart. So, you know, my first week up here when we did our competitions, you know, I was winning. Actually, I got that first loss on my belt and, you know, it kind of opened my eyes to like, these guys take it to heart when they lose. They don't like it. So, you know, I kind of got that now where I don't like losing. You had the opportunity to be around the team for that, you know, CFP Ron. What did you learn from Just Go's few weeks seeing this team make that run? You know, being real tight with your brothers, you know, they're real tight. You know, they push each other. You know, it's a real brotherhood. They don't let nobody down. They always got each other back. So, I mean, it's a new team now. So, you know, we got to build that chemistry with each other, you know, just just get tight.

4:07:36And I feel like when I was there for that playoff running and I practiced, um, when they were at the National Championship, you know, I just got to watch, you know, how guys are, you know, real locked in. They're close with each other. They're not letting nobody slack off. And, you know, I feel like we had the opportunity to do that with this team now. How did you handle Luke? You ran through that first law? That first law, you know, it kind of got to me. It was the IGB, you know, he, you know, he let me hear. So, after that loss, I was like, nah, I can't let this happen anymore. Cause it's like, now it's not high school where you used 17, 16 years old. And if you lose, you lose. Appearance is not. If you lose, the coach will see that. So, and they're going to see how you respond to it. So, I feel like I had to, you know, open my eyes, I had to go and then lock them like, yeah, I can't let this happen anymore. So, I got to grow up and, you know, these guys are counting on me too. So, it's really important that I don't lose. If you had to describe yourself as a competitor, how would you do that? I'm a great competitor, you know, I like winning. Who doesn't like winning? So, I mean, winning is, it's in my blood. You know, my parents taught me that at a young age, you know, going after competing for anything that you want.

4:08:40And I feel like if you can go after it to compete for it, you know, it's yours. And if you compete for it all the time, who's going to take it from me? So, I mean, I'm a good competitor. I'm always going to go out there and try to take what's mine. If it's out there, then anybody can have it. And I'm going to be the one to get it. There's some role-mokers in your room, obviously. Are you a talker? What would your natural life be like? Yeah, I mean, it could come out on you know. But I don't really know my game to talk for this part. But, you know, if it gets there, it gets to that point where, yeah, I can bring it out. Because, you know, regardless, I'm not just going to let nobody just come out here and just, you know, catch balls on me. If I'm having a good day when I'm consistently getting P.B.U.s, yeah, I'm going to talk. But, you know, being in that room, you kind of got to talk. You know, the Jamei, you got IGB, you know, those real talkers in that room. So, it kind of makes you want to bring it out. And, you know, when you bring that out, they just bring it to energy out and hold defense. And when you got the whole defense clicking, I mean, you can see what's happening. Is there anyone that's kind of a competition you're at? It was during the winter. We were doing, you know, just stuff on the field.

4:09:40We were just having the time of the field. Just a lot of competitions. So, I mean, he just kind of, it was a day where, you know, they had us going up against just a freshman. And then they kind of threw us in there and fired against the other guys. So, we had to, you know, we had to wake up and, you know, we all kind of lost. And then we all kind of, like, we all kind of came to get that as a freshman group, like, what are we going to do about this? Because, you know, some of their kind of nice to step up in those roads. Yeah, definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely, my work on college moments. You know, just showing that, you know, it's real now, a middle-high old state. I'm not in Houston, Texas, I'm more in my school. Far from my family. You know, I got to wake up, I got to grow, I got to mature fast. And, you know, I just got to get ready for the next level. You've mentioned high school a couple of times. How did, you know, grow it up very in Texas, playing at that level. How do you feel like that helped you prepare for Ohio State? I feel like it prepared good, you know. I feel like I went to a powerhouse in Texas. We obviously ran the Houston area. You know, we've been running the Houston area for a long time now. And I feel like, you know, we're a real college program. We live just like these guys who do the same, this.

4:10:41You know, the level of ball I play, the highest level ball in Texas, 6A. You know, we're going against guys like Dunkin' Bill, no crowded, those top schools, you know, receive the Coyote more I go against. And I want to get some three times in my career. So, I mean, those that really prepared me for this level, you know, coming in like, okay, this is not where it's a little school where they don't believe that I can come here and make an impact. I came from big schools, so they're counting me to make an impact. Because, you know, I think, I mean, everybody would say Texas is one of the highest player bars in the country. You know, they go as Florida and they're probably Georgia. So, I mean, they're counting me to be ready and that level of ball prepared me real, real well. How'd you do against DeCory? You know, it was when lose, when lose. You know, I went some, he looked some. So, I mean, it's just getting better on Shob and Iron. Because, you know, he's the top receiver, obviously, in our class. You know, I feel like he's going to have a good impact at Oregon. So, I mean, it's just, it's just, it's just, just, what's going to happen next?

4:11:42Looking forward to seeing him again? Yeah, definitely, definitely. And you know, I plan on planning against him. We don't, we want to see him this year, hopefully we'll see him in the big team championship. So, you know, I want, I want, I want that rematch, man. DeVa, you committed super early in the process, six months after that. You shut things down when, quite frankly, someone of your caliber didn't have to do that. You could have, you've seen kids play the game a little bit longer than that. But you chose to not do that. Just kind of lock it in here. Why? You know, because this was, this was, this was what I felt, this was home. You know, I didn't really feel like, you know, standing, chasing such a good thing for me. I didn't, I didn't feel like that was home for me. Up here, I just felt like it was home. You know, because of all, it was day, you know, them making it, you know, making me feel important up here. And then, you know, like you could ask, because what, how many times I came up here, throughout my high school career, I came up here 13 times. So, it got to the point where I was knowing the guys on the team, I had the numbers just to fight that, when I come up here, you know, I don't got to always build the coaches. I can go to some of the guys on the team. So, it was just, just me, you know, knowing what I want to put in my college ball,

4:12:43you know, knowing what I felt like it was home and then, you know, it was also my parents too, you know, my mom being, you know, feeling safe that, you know, I'm up here, you know, I'm handling the business and not having to worry about me. And she goes to sleep. I've been practicing at 4U and I've been seeing the other guys in the district. Well, Coach Hardman, the coach, Dr. Javier and Stepup, and he helped us out everything we did to do. He's a big help. And I just like, make sure we stand on time and all that stuff. What you're just talking about is stepping into a big role in the slide. How much do you watch, I like that, every day, try and take things, whether it's preparation, stuffy, those on the field, just learning from a guy like that. Yeah, every time I watch, every time I watch him, so I have to take some of this and I had it to mind. And I'm rising largest too. I take some of this, all the receivers. Yeah, they always help me out on the activity. There's lots of life walking into this room specifically at the higher stage

4:13:43with all the history of a new already smiling. You know what it means to be a part of this world? Yeah, it's a big step. It definitely holds a lot like a shoulder. So you've got to get a big quick. It's definitely a big dream for my team. It's never been to a lot of, I'm blessed to be here. You won that? Yeah, that's why you come. That's why you come. That's why you come. What's the reason I'm an advice for some of the workers that has already even before Springgolf started to talk to the Mecca, some of those guys that you're on? Like, try not to take everything personally. Like, I'll say like, you know, time will come. We'll make a comment, try to make that play. And I'll be looking forward to that any day. And I'll be staying up late, but because that's going to get you to find your life. And find that in this game. Yeah, like that. Yeah, like that. As you got pregnant, you was a guy right away. It's last two years. You were able to get this out with your team at the bottom. How much is patient to require? Obviously, you don't get off the field.

4:14:43But how much is patient to have an important child? You see that, essentially. I'm not everybody having the same amount. So, some people always have a living term. But you just got a, like I say, a related time. You just got to make that play. And it's going to go off from here. Awesome. Thank you. It's actually really big. You know, I still have everything to keep it getting off of her period. My life has just started. I just wanted to say it. I just wanted to say it. I just wanted to say it. I mean, not even, you've got a couple of reasons for you. Did there? I'm curious about how you picked your Ohio State. I think it's pretty good. You started to do your part, but I mean, in terms of the guy who you want to join, how do you decide? You're a testie car. You're not a missing box or a lot of you. You're a testie car. You're a champion. You're a champion. You're a champion. You're a champion, shirt. You're a center of creative centers.

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4:17:35of your commitment like you're locked in the last eight and you send it over and over, but you're making visits around the country, you're seeing other schools. It's almost a totally different mindset. What's that code to be of a must-eck? How do you approach those other visits and how do you communicate with a lot of state about them? What's been the message that you've been talking about? I think it's a different house. They had just left the building. I'm always locked in, you know, I'm still enjoying the buses. This is only having one time, so I'm very interested in it. Enjoy it. So, the other school that I'm talking about, yes, we really are a gigantic place. So how's the state going to be? What is it that made you want to take photos of this? I'm not going to put out one specific film. You're going to have to leave it here. Find yourself in the grocery and get frustrated with moments like that in the bulk time. Definitely. A little bit of both. Obviously, I just wanted the team to win. I think we got a chance to win. You know, Death Eat towards it. And then it stretched out last drive.

4:18:37I was a couple of plays here, a couple calls that he made me should have gotten. But I think the frustration more so it just comes from. There's no one's going to win more than anything. You said he was a little surprised how much attention you got right away from the defense. How about you? Yeah, Death Eat. We maybe gave him more one-on-ones kind of how the game plan was set up. We didn't have a lot of different coverage. A lot of cloud to my side. And I just kind of had to gain those. What's the process been? We're whatever reason. Just to see that. Yeah, definitely. Especially in college, a lot of the game plans defensively were to take me away. You know, we had a lot of success. I was there, I was there. One of the boys had different weapons. They kind of still get the victories. And I was there to continue to do better jobs when I had. A lot of communication. The process has been like post-game, getting on the same page with Kyler. You guys exchange text. Yeah, they're filming. Definitely. Kind of asking what did I see there?

4:19:37Kind of go over and play. And I just kind of give him what I saw. And kind of different feedback. Change words. Mark, I get it. We're asking questions about the previous game. Are you the type of guy to let a game like that winger? Or how do you flush it? You got to move on. Got to move on. You want some long season guy. 16 more of them. Hopefully, no, I can stay healthy throughout the year. And just continue to build and get better each week. You guys did so much work throughout the off season to get on the same page. How different is it when you get into that regular season? Yeah, it's totally different. It's totally different. You can do a lot of things, you know, in shirts and shorts. And then once you go out there, put practice and get pads on. You do like the point practice you get with the colds. But there's nothing like actually going out there. Not in live action. And really trying to be on the same page. So I think that would really just hit both the team to develop and develop. Is that it just a matter of reps then this month or something? Yeah, definitely. Definitely. Like I said, I was kind of my first live action together. So I can continue with. When you're early impressions on your time on the field together and in the preseason with cows?

4:20:40Yeah, but now obviously I have a death certificate respect, you know, JG's call or preseason. And obviously be also really healthy. That's kind of the most important thing. Obviously that will help you going forward. So, um, that's it. Marvin, what are your early impressions of the Rams? What do you think of the Rams? Yeah, I mean, they're a good team. They're good physical team. I got a new lot of new guys up front, I think. That's kind of where their strong suit is. Kind of a little different to Buffalo. Come over a little match coverage. So I'm excited to build this. Personally, when the bells take you one of my opportunities, how do you feel today? It's been a good time. Wasn't many of them. Wasn't many of them. So, uh, I thought I needed to do it. I'm just where you think game versus just playing. You know, not getting a preseason game. I think it's the most three season. Definitely, definitely thinking a lot out there. And, um, you know, I think I'll come with reps. I think to think and less and just going out there and playing. Definitely come with reps. And it's something you're on, you're better at. But, um, definitely say I was thinking a lot out there. Is there anything you can do to prove that that's for your coverage?

4:21:40Anything you can do to prove that? You're going to finish that a lot. I'm just going to prove it. Yeah, I mean, you just got to team, get open for yourself, make yourself available. And when the ball does, make a way to make it into play. Um, this, the beef is just taking you away. That means other guys are having a chance to get open. So, that's how kind of high it is. No longer season of offense. That's the best thing it's for us. That continuity with Tyler. Is this something that comes pretty quickly? Or something like that? Hopefully sooner or later, I think. Um, I'm looking to see. We'll see. I don't think we're in a bad place right now at all. Obviously, I don't really think that. But, uh, just a live episode continue to grow and show. It's a little about life. It's like, it's like, it's like, it's like helping us. Like, saying what kind of GM goes, what? Everything's not like it's about ball with them. It's about like, focus on like, how do you become a better man? A better player individually? It's only one player that you're interceptionist. I always did that. I'll keep the offense wise heading into this next season. Kind of trying to push for a job.

4:22:40Is that like a confidence booster for you? I mean, I'll say it was a confidence booster. One reason I say that because you get like good coaches who believe in you. And like, they give you the tools to go out there and just play with confidence. You know, not their doubting yourself. Like, you got your teammates who got your back like my first play when I got a third to the seat. Like when the sale, the IGB and the domain, like, personally, they say it's like, no, where you just go out there, play with confidence. You know, you know, the tools is usual tools. It's got to make a play. And where about a play coming to you? You know, where is your time? This your job? You just do it. You know, the same goes for you. Like, he gives me, he puts me in a position like, like, the drills we put in, the work we put in, the one on one, so I just go out there and just push on at the highest level. How much better are you right now than maybe last month, like, four sprint practice? I mean, I got a way better just because I've transitioned a little bit to the inside. Nick was far so I'm like, now I'm actually trying to like catch, catch, take me again. It often covers not. It's not always press at the line. So it's like, not maybe to like move my feet, move my hands. See, like, what I got to do just like, just in case I got to go back in corner, I can, I'll plant off.

4:23:43Now, I'm very confident out there. Do you think that Nick was a natural fit for you or have you had to kind of convince yourself to transition around? I mean, I feel like it's natural for me because I feel like me individually, I'm a fast learner. I'm a fast learner. Like coaches help us like learn fast. Like, because they're always honest about the techniques and stuff. So you like, you write down, like, you pick up all the things you did. You get out here, they coach us to like, the techniques always, you just go out there and play like fast spot. And then you know, I would have like, you're sort of telling me you're able to go out there and just compete. Is that where you kind of stuff, just spring or do you pick out of mountain? So I'm really, you've been stuck there this spring a little bit, right? Whenever you get into like other things, I just bounce out there every once in a while. Just like, have fun. See if I still got it every once in a while. So it's as good as to go out there to compete at most spots. You mentioned the technique. What technique tips and things that you had to pick up and learn from coach walking from the beginning to the end. I mean, it's always like, you know, because what coaches ask me hands, like see it.

4:24:43You see it. Move your feet and then get your hands on the man. So it's like, when you feel like, when you out there, you're able to like process like the way the receiver comes off the ball, looking at the hips and seeing like the way he moving. Are you able to pick up like the row concerts you can get out of that. It's being like under coach walls. I mean, like as a player and just like him breaking out football to you like one on one. It's like very beneficial. What was the hardest part of making that transition from outside the inside? I really say like the corner you got to cover two, you cover three, you cover one. It's easy, but you got nickel. There are so many responsibilities. You got to see like the row concepts. You got to be able to process like diagnosed routes faster than what you got to do out corner and just be able to like everything. You got to quit like a transition. You got to like, you got to move fast. You got to just learn to move fast. It's like game recognition. Where do you think maybe you've thrown the ball? Since you got to, since you got to go to the ball. I would definitely say, I would definitely say yes because when you get to like college, it's a little bit different. Like in high school, we don't got to worry about things like that.

4:25:44When you get to like college in a school like this, like your recognition of plays and like your loyal drops the way like the cover just must be played. I understand all your teammates are plus if you have any feel. It's like it gets easy. What if you're a freshman? It's not far. He's very talented. He's a great dude. He's a humble guy. He's a humble guy. A great teammate. He's very supportive. He's like a guy that you don't want to run because you can feed off your energy because you can see like when you make a play. He's like, he's like IGB. He's like IGB 2.0. So he's like, when you get off there with guys like that with good energy, it makes you play a little bit harder. And then like when you make a play, he's out there and like just helping you. Like he's being out there with him. He's a good player. One of those guys, twice question, handful of kids. No, I would say obviously over the last few years. So, it's probably serious. Now, what is it about one build that gets you to play at a high school? It's a big question, I know. It's a big question. It's a big question. You have so many kids come out of Glimbo and just play at leagues.

4:26:46I'll leave like elite schools. And then like like tracks a big part of it because I mean like to actually in a Glimbo everybody got to run track like it's minutes right. You don't really get a choice. You able to just like get out here and like know how to compete. And then like, dude, like getting builds that mental toughness into you. So I was like, have you like, I've heard now you got to be mentally tough because I'm not like. Life's not going to be easy. So it's like being out here, being able to compete. When you down just pick yourself back up. I mean, that's a being down to me. That's a being down to me. That's a being down to me. I'm going to play here forever. I mean, I was talking about his plans. So, you know, you was transitions like one of those fairytale, like to your time now. But again, either way, you know, we talk about it. You know, that's that's the toe goes, you know, but obviously, you know, he's he's he's happy. And one of the explorers. Again, I think everybody leads in their own way.

4:27:47You know, not everybody's the. Guys, come around. That's not everybody, right? Like I think for me, that's me specifically on game day. With the O line, after we do a little more like that's my like, well, I'm dead. Like that's my like a cool time. I feel like I'm talking about this, you know, just recently. Talking about how what I want to do for the run was I want to bring that home energy. The he brought, right? So last year, of course, I'm sure he's been doing for years, but the year when I spent my own, he brought a lot of energy, excitement, and happiness in the room, which is his natural energy. To where I only had to focus on me, you know, I didn't have to make sure other, other guys are, you know, feels the type of way when it came in here because hump brought that. I mean, I'm not here, but I saw when you did for a room, I want to be that guy to make sure

4:28:48I was amptical to practice. Everybody's, I'm taking a built team on period, you know, it's a low day or something, you know, it's a different, but like I want to make it feel like home. I want to bring that because that's what me and hump did to each other. We would have each other do something to get walked or flipped. So I want to do that. I want to bring that energy on me, bring more guys. You want to do that? Yeah. I want to do that from day one, you know, I kind of, I want to do that from day one. I'm just talking to him and obviously it's that time I spent in the off season before I started. Just being in my self-just thinking about what the room needs, you know, because I know I renewal as one of the leaders, you know, on my offense is that we need a guy like that. It's going to make sure the O-line is picked up. We're ready to go every day on how to kind of a little things don't happen to practice people aren't saying anything and how I may leave, maybe different than somebody else may leave.

4:29:53You know, I like to practice at least like a legal positivity, you know what I mean. So, but he, the energy yeah, we're going to be on just though, hyperb-b-line, so I think so. So I was kind of, I want to be going on really my whole life. I followed the NFL team captain, like specifically, and I felt I wasn't a captain in high school. Wasn't a captain in college, but I want to make a joke because I was in high school. So I feel like I'm not going to be a captain until I get that I felt. But that would be awesome, you know, but you know, if it happens, I'd be great, but not either way. I want to assume the role as a captain from perspective of guys on team visual work and get back to that point. I mean, I can't say that, I mean, I guess the biggest thing is that I felt like it has felt like how it used to in the past, but it didn't take just the first ALTAs and took training and left and right once this season ended because I know what it was going to be.

4:31:00So, I took a lot of reps just to give back to feeling like myself for the ALTAs. And then that whole first week, but now like today specifically, just changing some small things with my feet. I've been seeing talk about the long coach, about some things I can do with my feet to get to sell my traditional angle that I love to sit on. I thought I felt great already, but I felt even better. So I need to work sides with tomorrow now, get on my feet back and how I like the right side and on the left side. I mean, obviously I feel like in the league, whether I left or right, you're still going against Premier Guy. So obviously, you have high expectations for your left and right tackle. But there's definitely like the level of energy and like the expectations definitely take the human side. Because now, I can either blind side, that's the tackle role. So yeah, I would say in terms of communication as far as just even outside of the facility,

4:32:06just stuff like that, like really creating that, but tackle quarterback and bond even more off the field. I think it has been something that's even been cool. I got the text one day. I said, hey, you put it left. I was like, you know, yeah, I've been training both. I've been training both. You know, I asked after the season there, like honestly, you know, we'll talk to you in a separate season. And I just got a text one, having what happens with the free agency. So I was like, you know, what I had a whole season right tackle. So if I get the word, I'm going, I'm standing right tackle. I'll just do what I did before I'm built on that. But I was trying to left tackle now. As if I'm going to be left tackle. And I'd rather do that than train all the right time with the call. I didn't switch my feet yet. You know what I mean? So I'm like, let me just prepare an advance. I'll say, yeah, it's gone. I think occasionally on third down, there'll be a lot of twists. I was just not like it's automatically going.

4:33:07And I think that was my mindset for like the first half of the season. Like I didn't have to go into the game with some problems. Like, oh my gosh, they did that. I kind of figured like, okay, like this is the type of rush. I'm going to get like, this is how this guy usually rushes. If I get the vibe, this is how it ends like the rush. You know, tackles that are first year guys. We got to premiere patch on already. You know what it was going to be. Already, you know, every step. And honestly, just knowing that's kind of an advantage to, so you're not, you're not, you're not, oh, they brought the twist on my side again. It was never air gone. But they come out the hot. It's like three plays in the world. Two minutes, I do that. It was the one. He said a lot of, you know what I mean? I'm watching more everybody else. And he rarely, he only goes out there occasionally. Third down, I was like, you know, I was like, are you going to pick me? You know what I mean? So, effect, effect, it's kind of, it's also kind of an advantage in a way. But it's also exciting, like, okay, I'm going to get the hardest look. You know, so it's a real, real reps, you know, the things.

4:34:09So, really, I'm on our way to kind of process. And I was like, hey, when I tell me, let me know about I'm just going to train it. I was training all left. So, TAs, I guess if I didn't hear anything about TAs, I would have came in like, so, you know what I mean? Because just like, I'm cool with training both continue. I would have been cool with training both continually. But I feel like anybody, any position will feel like, okay, like, you want as soon as possible to get your feet kind of settled in, your hips settled in. Your hands, so then, certain kind of what? We would have been harder to get you work both, or how to use. No, no. But they're definitely, but in terms of the development, they're definitely a lot faster to stay on all the way inside. But I think having that, the weeks that we had to transition with seasons over, I'm like, what's fun? You know, good, good. I'm trying to eat up, put them in the front, and eat.

4:35:11Things at a time right now. But when it comes back, I'm showing them to the other house. I've got a house that's not too far from, so I told them, I got that house, like a yellow outside. DJ. You know what I mean? So, yeah. Communication with the team. You know, I was communicating with guys left and right. You know, front office, coaches, teammates, and all I care about is how I am with my teammates. I don't want them to ever think I don't care about them, or how I'm not in it. And, you know, you can say whatever you want about me besides that. But I always dedicate anything I can to them. And I don't want that to every question. I think I said that it felt like sometimes you were holding up somewhere watching film. You texted me, you said, hey, you missed this, or you want to tweak that? Well, like the first day, he was batting all of Russ's passes, so I had to let him know. You know, you got to take advantage of that.

4:36:11You got to make sure guys are, you know, know that you still care and you still want to be a part of this. You know, just watch and practice. There's a couple of little things we're doing different. Whether I'm communicating with Gumbarr or other people. You know, so you're also talking with him. Do you give him pointers during the off season, just to the constant communication? How do you see him grow as a person, you know, in part of how he's approaching things, and how he getting ready for this season versus his rookie? You know, I think the thing with Keanu is he's more comfortable. You know, it's not his first time around the track. You know, it's actually like he can, you know, catch his feet under him. You know, I always think when you're in your rookie season, you're going from bowl game. I don't even know Wisconsin playing a bowl game. Sorry Wisconsin, I don't even know, but, you know, personally, I just think when you go from bowl game to training for the combine to, you know, rookie minicamp, OTAs, the, you know, many can't, I mean, the training camp, the regular season.

4:37:12You really don't get the time to really catch yourself. You know, you understand to play book now. You can be more vocal. You know, I think with my absence, the other guys' absence, you know, you need guys like that to step up and be ready for those opportunities. What do you think of the surgery you had in the off season? The same you had during the season, was it more thorough? What was, just tightened down everything. You know, my left side, because I was over-compensating a little bit. But, you know, it was, it wasn't anything that lingers. You know, I'll say this, a groin's not like an ACL. It's not like anything's that we're going to get affected again. You know, you know, feeling good, able to do everything, squat and heavy. With power and speed. So, you know, it feels good to get after a gun. You think of what the team was able to accomplish, it's not a fee to return to praying guys like wrestling and things like that. You know, I think they're all good acquisitions. But, you know, you never want to be known as a paper champ. So, you can't win the off season.

4:38:13I think the work gets done out here on the field. It's done in the classroom. It gets done training. You know, and then you see where you're at in the training camp. You build on that. You know, I think we got the right guys in the building. It's just about putting a complete team on the field. Can't have typical isn't to separate the business part of the game in the actual football club. Oh, you know, you always want to, you always have to treat it like a business. Because, you know, one day it's going to end. And that's a good job. It's not like in college where, you know, you got four years guarantee. Well, now you don't even know what the NIL knows, it's a transfer portal, but, you know, you have to, I still have love for this game and I still work my tail off and I still put everything into it. And that's not going to change. But, you have to know what you bring to the team and what your value is.

4:39:16And I know you're going to be able to be out there with your teammates today, am I showing? Great, you know, we got a new training staff and still learning the warm up. A little different. But, you know, I loved it. You know, just getting after it. Learning new guys, going through the same drills I've been doing by myself. I actually like having more people around because like, kind of go stir crazy when it's just you and another guy you're like, damn, I got to go back up for another rep already. And so, you know, it's nice to be up here and get a chance to be with my guys. Can we confident that we'll get down with your emotion? Oh, I'm going to try to remain pretty neutral because I don't want to be to either way. All I know is I want to be here, but we'll see what happens. It's my last year here. I've had a great career here, but I look forward to playing next year.

4:40:17What that second surgery you said at this time was on the left side, was the first time around on the right side? Right side during the season, left side. And that was just tightened down my core muscle. It wasn't the same as my ad doctor. You know, you can ask Dr. Bradley, Dr. Zuckerbron, who did the surgery as well. You know, if anything, it's going to help me and make me a lot stronger from here on up. Can you say you were training with another guy who have you come to me? Tyson, I've been training with him for the last eight years. We've always trained together. We've got to train her up north, Cheryl Cohele, who's my guy. He trained a Heath Miller, Brett Kiesel, multi-tudent guys that I'll respect. And we've just been getting after him. Can you give me a few guys historically, 35, they paid big contracts, and I think that's held against you? I think there's not a lot of history behind it.

4:41:17But, you know, for me, I look at as I'm not looking to be like anybody else. You know, my game is different from everybody else, and I like to think, you know, I can play the run in the pass, and that's where I'm different. I remember last year, Mike T. you just brought to my attention. The thing that's really cool is you watch powerlifters. And my game's built on power and technique, and those guys go into the 40s. And so, you know, that's what kind of research I'm doing behind the scenes. But, you know, we'll see what happens. There's not a lot of history, but I'm here to make history. I'm here to win another Super Bowl of Air, and you know, have a great season. Do you have a set goal for yourself, or how many years you want to play in the NFL? Or do you just take things here right here? You know, it was tough answering that question right after the season. I will say this guys, I can't keep answering that question right after the season.

4:42:17That is not fair to the season that's not fair to my family. But in my mind, I got three years, and I want to maximize them. I want to play at a high level, and I want to go deep into playoffs. And, you know, we got a good team, and I'm going to do my part to be ready for all those situations. You've been playing on practice in the New York Port of La Cerve, or is it possible that you might fold in and, unfortunately, those years will... I have not even thought that far, and I've taken a day. My day, you know, I told my agent, and we talked about it. We were cool coming out here. I'll be here for many. And then I'll be there for training. I don't know what the work entails, but when we get there, we'll cross-uproot. Why would a guy for you work? For a minus deal, or for three years? You know, there was a conversation between me, Omar, and Mike T.

4:43:17And there are certain guys that are at One Helma Guys. And I want to be one of those One Helma Guys. And, you know, there's a hunger and desire there. But that doesn't mean just hanging it up and calling it a career. To me, I think, you know, I got more bullets to fire, and I'm excited to do that. What's the meaning of last one? You and Russell Wilson are going to be out there with Walter Menn. What's Peyton Menn of the year patch stuff? I saw Russ as on social media. But I have an idea to see it. I like the surprise happens when it happens. But, you know, it's cool to have another Walter Peyton Menn of the year winner. You know, I think it's an honor to be there. And I'll say one thing. I won't be here. I'm just telling you guys, so it's not a big deal. I won't be here because I have to do a Walter Peyton Menn of the year thing on Thursday. So it's not like I'm skipping. So, all right.

4:44:17But, you know, it's an honor to be with Russ. And, you know, it's an honor of doing things in the community. Doing great work. And, you know, the cool thing is, as much as we get honored and nominated for these things, the work doesn't stop. And I can see that with Russ' foundation, you know, we had an event for our foundation. And my mom was quick to tell Russ, hey, we need the partners somehow. Let's just enjoy the event. But, you know, it's really cool to be a part of a lead group. All right. Thank you. Thank you. Oh, it's been good. I mean, just trying to, it's just a different way of play, different terminology, different, it's a whole different scheme. So just learning how they want things done compared to how you used to do things is really the... So, like being in that tight end room, everybody's got their skills to see. Everybody's different, but you all do some of the same things. Right. Yeah, no, it's a great room. A lot of really good guys have grown really close with a lot of those guys.

4:45:18So, everybody helps each other, a really nice learner from Dalton, breadin' those guys. Dalton's done it for a really long time, so he helps me a lot with things that really aren't coachable things, you know what I mean? You mentioned how to family at the game, but what about working out here at this high school? You're still in Ohio, that's gotta feel good. And, I don't know if your high school is like this, man, that's feel good. What's your different name, like? I don't know what the Lexington Hut is about. They're eighth of the size of this place. Yeah, this is not like my high school, but this is a healthy place. But it's super cool to be home and just be back and give you a little sense of comfort, I guess for me, especially being my way for as long as I've been. So, I was a man in the kind of war around the city, and you've been there, and you've seen a bunch of fuck out fans that have wanted to get your autographs, take a picture, call your venue. I don't get, I don't go out of the hole. I actually went home yesterday. I went back to the farm for a little bit, which was great for a couple of days. He did all my family and stuff, and see my grandparents and everything. So, it was good. But I really haven't been out enough to know, so I try and keep her inside. Yeah. Do you think it was a tough one, but you can come this, what do you think of your play and I really showcased it?

4:46:23Oh, that's a good question. I don't think that's for me. I'm just trying to give. I mean, every time I think you can play this game for 50 years, and there's always going to be something you leave to feel with. I wish I would have been better in that area. I wish it would have been better in some other, you know what I mean? Like, it's never going to be. This is absolutely perfect. So, like, to me, that's... Right now, the hardest part of this is just mental toughness of it all. I mean, physical toughness. I mean, you either have it or you don't, in my opinion. So, I mean, I've always felt like I was kind of bred in that area with things, and that's just kind of way happens naturally. So, just play after play. That's kind of how we roll it. I'll say. Good afternoon. Thank you guys. We are now. We got to get you on the boat. Yeah, I was growing immensely. I mean, Caleb, he makes a lot of checks. Latham makes a lot of checks. I listen to them. Whatever they need, if I need to cover somebody out, I'll go cover anybody. If they need me to do run support, I'll do run support. And it's really what Caleb does, what we do in Latham. It just goes back to the Coach G's preparation and everyone's preparation to give us more flexibility. And it doesn't matter who's in those positions.

4:47:24And we can all play every position, whether it's covering somebody or running and tackling. Did you feel like that was the case before the Oregon game? You're saying what I'm saying? Is it something that's been added? It just, you know, relying on a little bit more, go ahead. Yeah, it did. I was probably in a Brasco game, me getting more safety reps. And we had a five week to prepare, so I really learned to play. But even though I knew to play, but I learned a lot more. I'm out in debt. So, really just after the Oregon game, it helped me a lot to go back to safety. Go to NICU everywhere. You guys had a lot of issues of giving up big plays in the passing game of the first game against Oregon. What do you feel like you guys need to do better this time around to make sure that doesn't happen? Just the same mindset. We got to challenge these receivers. You know, every dog has their day. Maybe some people didn't have their day that game. But we'll look out there and hopefully change the narrative.

4:48:25And we still play with the same confidence, same technique. And, yeah. Bill Rebino, it's a bonus in this match. And Denzel obviously had a tough game. And that one, what have you seen from him and how he's responded? Do you get a sense of from him? How up do you use for this rematch? Oh, yeah, he's super stoked for this rematch. His preparation has been very good. He's always been preparing, you know, it didn't go the way he wanted to go that game. But he just always had his confidence. And we're going to see a big game out of him this week. And, you know, I know you guys wanted to play them in anapolis. But the fact that you get to play them at the Rose Bowl, I mean, get a second chance. And people have said, you don't get that very often. How determined are you guys to take advantage of it? We're super, super determined. We watched film. I mean, we've watched a lot of film. The first time we played them, now we just got another six games that they played. They've filmed a watch. And it's just, they've grown a lot as a team. Same as us. We've grown a lot.

4:49:25We're not the same team. We were when we played them week one or weeks six or whatever. But now we're out there and going to play fast, physical, and everything like that. All right, Jordan, we're going to jump to the Zoom question here from Joey Kaufman. Columbus Dispatch. Oh, my bad. Not too Joey. Cameron T. Robinson, the athletic. Hey, Jordan, you've moved around a lot in the second day in your career. And now kind of getting some many more safety reps. What is it like at this point when Walt or Coach Nolos comes to you and asks you to do some else? And just how much can you lean on the experiences you've had moving around when you're trying to learn something new in the middle of the season? It means a lot. We always talk about this is even being on selfish. Whether that's making plays or not making plays or doing your job. So another person can make plays. That's kind of what we pride ourselves on. And it's just fun. Me moving around different positions. I'm always up for a new challenge. And a lot of people in the country can't do that.

4:50:25I just hold myself to that standard where I can play any position and excel at it. Okay. If anybody else needs a question, let me know. But otherwise we can go to Austin more of the podcast. Jordan, when you were talking about watching film Oregon. Which one do you think is more valuable to you watching that against yourself? Seven games ago, even if you've changed or the ensuing six games for Oregon? Which one do you put more stock in? Kind of both. For me, I kind of watch what I did. Things I did well. Things I didn't do too well against them. And their team is changing that life. Their scheme has changed. Some players have been out those stretch of games. So I really watched the past game we played. And I know they're going to go back to some of the stuff that they liked, of course. And different games like Penn State, maybe Illinois, they run a lot of men. So just watching, watching stuff like that. Every game matters. So yeah.

4:51:25Jordan, thank you very much. Thank you. Shoot ourselves a foot high on the hand run game. How do I handle in the passing game? And really just stop getting our own way. It's a CJ first couple of weeks. It looks like you've been having more comfortable with off-skrit plays and taking more risks. Which you say that's something that's all that does this year for you. I mean, yes and no. You know, I don't choose a run. I run when I have to. I feel like I am agile and I can't get out. But, you know, I definitely, you know, try to read the defense to get my guys the ball. Because they're usually open every time. So, you know, it's just up to the pocket. You know, navigate and that. Trying to make my rely arrive also. You know, if I have to extend the play. CJ, you guys started going to last year's night to know how much different the things feel this year. Not even the whole season under your belt. What have you learned? What have you been like the best group? Oh, it's too, oh, it's a lot worse than the two. No, so, you know, I'm definitely grateful.

4:52:26Definitely, you know, blessed we playing this great game. But, you know, it's definitely a lot of things we can clean up. I think around the league and see that though, you know, I mean a lot of sloppy ball, you know, some teams playing better than others. But I definitely know that, you know, section 4 was not what we put on the field today. But, you know, at least in the second half would definitely be better for sure. You and Nico connected on a couple of scrambled trail style plays. Is that something you guys work on active plays that would focus the viewers? No. It's just two guys out there making plays. You know, we have a drill that we do at practice that, you know, it does help those things. But, you know, trying to just be two guys, be dynamic players. Do you think you're going to be born in that way, kind of mind-mode? So, speaking of you. Yeah, for sure. I think, I mean, Nico, we've always had a good relationship and always, you know, you're ready each other well on the field. But I think even now, you know, we'll take the next steps. And you can see, you know, step getting involved more, tank getting involved, dulled and breath. We're just trying to spread it around, you know, and we have so many dynamic players.

4:53:28So, you know, it's a good problem to have. You know, obviously, you know, all two are better than things of that nature. How do you balance, you guys have the win, but you said you let them put on Texans football. How do you kind of balance one of the correct order mistakes, but while also, you know, celebrating a win that you guys just had today? It's football. It's hard to win the NFL. I'm happy. Of course, I'm not satisfied. I'll never be satisfied. There's always things that you can point out. We're not going to let one half of football make us put our heads and we're going to stay confident. We're going to stay taking shots. We're going to stay, you know, betting on us. So, I definitely, you know, understand, you know, we need to be better. But, you know, like I, like you said, winning is number one. So, we won and now it's time to move on and get better. Can you talk a little bit about what Payne has meant to the team over these past two weeks? And as a quarterback, as an offense, does having a kicker that can hit from long range like that consistency,

4:54:28give you guys a little bit of extra confidence, you know, once you get over 50. Yeah, any guys in his aims, man, I'm super happy and proud of him. And he broke a record today or something like that. So, you know, we definitely need him. You know, all points are big points. And I definitely think like the preparation, just who he is at practice, you know, you can, you know that he's going to knock it down just because how hard he is on himself doing practice. And, you know, it was a great job. I especially teams today blocking it. Also, you know, point Tommy doing his job as well. So, you know, it takes three phases for water and for water. See the e-missing. All right, here's a little get those numbers. I promised it was not long. 4602, now through 17 career games. Remember, it's the couple a year ago due to that concussion. So, reaches his full quote unquote first season at least from a game standpoint here in week two of year two,

4:55:28proud when we looking up at a few. It's different for me. I'm really like a ball player type of guy. Not very, not the most outgoing and vocal, but we're not talking about real eyes that people listen. Just taking more of that type of aspect into my game and just making me more complete as a football player. How have you seen maybe change a little bit with Coach Hardline in a bit of a different role? Maybe whether it be other coaches, coach Jordan or players stepping up to have a big battle. I want to say a change once he's still super involved. He always tries to stay engaged with us guys. I mean, he's the Oc now and he's more skimmed, schematic and everything now, but he's still keeping that relationship strong with us and still really in there with the Civa Corrine.

4:56:36And shout out to Coach Jordan as long as stepping up, taking a big little coach Jordan. He's a huge factor in our lunch and so I've been here. So, it's a big cross the coach doing everything he's been doing. How do you feel like the spring's gone for you? Obviously you've done this now for just what have you taken from us? I'm extremely comfortable, super confident in my ability to do what I do. Just building that trust with my quarterback just pretty much what I came in when I do. Just let them know that they got it. They got to revive the offense and the third chain next time it's on the field. And you know, just establishing that, showing me, like I said earlier, to show my young guys a foundation, I was there for a moment. They want to come in and do and what's the expectation? I'll say a little favor. Real value last year for me. Did you caught them? Yeah. Obviously, the trust with you and the surface did. How long have you felt yourself building that trust with Lincoln? I think it's been good. Just being more vocal with them guys as well. Me and Lil are very vocal. Even in practice a lot of times, just things didn't go my way in the game, but even in practice a lot.

4:57:37Yeah, take care. I was very comfortable with Lil. More vocal guys. I got out of my quarterback's mouth and they're doing a better job. Just building so they can see it isn't taking our feedback, not for its criticism, but just because we love it. And you're the best thing to do. Just doing that and just keep growing on that all the way to far and all the way to the first game. You are doing some more outside for sure. You're stuck as well. Yeah, I've been more, the more years you get under your belt for the more experience you get, you start knowing this offense more and more. Not just your position or what you're doing, but like everybody's out. What you're doing, how you're doing and why you're in it. So I mean, yeah, I've been rapping the outside ZXH anywhere. Coach Hanlon needs me to just really be that guy and go make a play on it. What's the biggest difference for you between outside and outside? The pace. A route concept you can kind of get. The pace you can play within the slides more for next game in the slide. Something I got very comfortable with. Just the ways you can attack the defense, I think.

4:58:38Just you know, conceptually and also just, you're placed down. But I mean, just doing both and just making me a better guy for the NFL. And that's what Coach Hanlon produces on the NFL, on the NFL, on the NFL. And I'm producing NFL guys. I'm feeling very comfortable with that. Do you have to have a different mindset as a slide receiver? Because it cuts way longer than I do. Absolutely. I think it's more thinking. I think it's more of a, you have to have a hundred standing up again in the slide. You've got to have a feel. It's just natural. I feel like it's more natural to position. And on the outside, it's just more, you know, get different things. See different coverage. You see different player types of corners and nickel bats and safeties more in the slide. So just seeing how you can attack, knowing your person, now how you can attack some people. That's how I say the biggest difference. Do you have that more courage? You have that more courage in the slide? Oh, yeah, absolutely. Especially like being myself in the slide faster. My skinnier guy, the one who put hands on it, want to get physical with you. But you just got to match that and just let them know that you there too.

4:59:39You as in a ballast question, whatever gets you on to, regardless inside outside. I'm just wanting to make plays and show one one of the best receivers in America. So if that's in the outside, that's in the inside. Whatever coach I'm on in this team needs me help us win and show them one of the best receivers in America. Thank you, Bill. At that time, you go back to zero, zero. They scored a thing in a half. We knew they got the ball back. The defense wasn't quite happy that they gave that touchdown at the end. We knew they get the ball back coming out, but we was excited because we knew the job wasn't doing it. Bill Rebellion, Columbus, this back. You were a five star guy and that coming up. All these guys in the room almost were five star guys. And then there's Jeremiah. Does he like all you guys in the room? I mean, I'm not sure. It's probably something you got to ask him, but Jeremiah has played with a lot of great guys throughout his career.

5:00:39He's seen all the talent you can see in the world. But I don't know if he's ever in all. Oh, yeah. I mean, I'm not surprised at anything he does now. I've seen him. We were nine years old. So anything he does, anyone hand catch, I've seen. I'm not surprised at anything he does. When he was nine, did you know this is not a, this is something special we've met. Any of the nine? Oh, yeah. I mean, coaches were coming up to us complaining that we were nine years old. Like, can we get their IDs and stuff like that? So I mean, I mean, there's definitely some footage that we got to go find. And the place we used to make when we were younger and just to see where he is now is amazing. It seems very unaffected by all of the starter. Yeah. How does that happen? I think how he was raised. He's very level-headed. He knows his goals and what he wants to get done in life. And this is just one step of the way for him. Can I throw a back to Texas for a couple of questions on Zoom, Scotty?

5:01:42Yes, sir. We're going to start with Defond from Cleveland.com. Go ahead. Brandon, I want to go back to what you were talking about with Coach Day earlier. You know, whenever he talks about this team's success, he says all the credit goes through players. It seems like the players think that he deserves some of the credit. How big, how influential is he been during the turnaround you guys have had these last few weeks? He's been huge, man. He's been coming here after that team of Northwest. He knows heart breaking, of course. But we came in here. We had a leadership meeting. He was in here, I mean. And then we had a team meeting after that. Hearing the stuff he had to say. And we had to say, going back and forth, we just, we knew. We would have this back no matter what. I mean, there's a lot of stuff set about him and his family and stuff like that. But hey, here we're a brotherhood and we're a family. And we just, we go and stand by him no matter what. Our next question is going to come from Dan. Hope Dan go ahead.

5:02:42Brandon, I mean, I'm sure you came in here to Ohio State thinking you'd probably be starting here in your second year. But it seems like you really embraced the growth process. Just what's kind of that process been like for you of kind of embracing your role this season and continuing to develop? Yeah. In life, things doesn't go the way you exactly planted too. And that just happened. You know, things happened to Mecca last year that allowed him to come back and that allowed me to learn more. And that's just how I see it. It makes me a better football player for the future. So yeah, I mean, yeah, let's see it. Three more on Zoom. Next one's going to come from Stefan Means. Go ahead. I'm Steven, but I'm sorry. Yeah, you're good. Brandon, there are a lot of clips of you this year where you're super, super excited after a block.

5:03:42And kind of showing your emotion there. What about blocking do you love so much as a receiver? Just being able to hit another guy with all my power, the hardest I can without any, any consequences. Except if you, except if you hold, of course. But yeah, just bringing that power. I mean, I heard some of the defensive guys telling me yesterday they were like, bro, I hate to go against you. So knowing that from the defensive guys. So I know what the other defensive guys are thinking like, just keep bringing it to them. They're not going to like it for four quarters. That's my mindset. Next question's going to come from Danny Davis. Danny, go ahead. Brandon, what are your impressions of these Texas defensive backs? And this kind of we've seen from them on, on, on, on, to them so far? Um, yeah, the last couple of days we watched them. Um, they're fast team. Um, they don't give up many big plays down field. Um, they're aggressive, but I actually know some of the, the DBs they have at corner there.

5:04:44Um, I play with them. Oh, well, I played with Mollie Muhammad at SFE. So I might know him a little bit. And um, we have a watching them. They're fast team. They're physical. They're disciplined. But we just got to get the job done. Give any Malik stories or any any. What's on? Give any Malik stories or anything you remember about playing with them? Oh, um. Yeah, but I'm not going to say them here. Uh, yeah, what's this keep that? Our final question's going to come from Kurt Bulls. Kurt, go ahead. Hey, Brandon. Uh, one of the issues Texas has had the second half of the year is finishing. And what if you can speak to, uh, and they had a trouble, obviously, in the peach bowl, you know, blue of 16 point league. And you talk about finishing and having a killer instinct and, and you guys obviously seem to have that now. Yeah. Um, I think that started started in, um, the offseason training at Fall camp.

5:05:45We always say go plus two. If you're doing a 10 yard pro shuttle, uh, you have to go plus two throughout the line. And that's just finishing up as well. And then fall camp, we had these long two and a half hour practices or whatnot. And then we came out and we had to do these, um, finishers. We called them ask for games late in the year like this. And we, um, I think Coach Day has a great, did a great job preparing all of us for these moments. And there we just were ready to go. We have time for just a couple more questions and clumpets so we can wrap up with our other two guys. Bill Landis, Kingston, the north. Brandon, um, Shrevy on the second touchdown run. It seemed like you took two players out of the play. First with your release and then with the guy you actually blocked. Is that, is that how it's designed? Or is it just, was it lucky to get the guy decided to take off inside of the release? Um, it's actually designed for me to block the safety and lead, uh, the corner 101 with the running back. Um, but I was surprised at the corner. I see came in so far in my release.

5:06:46I think he thought it was a pass. Um, but I think he was the edge of the defense. If you, if you go watch that play, but I don't know, I, I don't really know why he came in so far. But it helped out for us and I made my block and turned off score. Is there any lesson there for, for like, even a young receiver watching that, that even if you know him to play, you're not getting the ball. You're, you're intended to block, but you, you release, has to be, at all point, like as if you're going to go pitch pass. Definitely, um, every little detail matters and then type of plays. We were in a red zone there. So we say every yard matters is two yards. Um, so the block I made is just a testament to Kyle coach hardline prep, prep me throughout the week to make that block. And final question, Joy Compton, Columbus this patch. And it will and then this has been some of the ball to equal lately, um, especially the way you guys have opened games. What do you think is this quick for you guys and for him and watching those buds? Um, a lot more confidence. I say throughout the year, um, we were always there as offense.

5:07:47We had, we didn't know, we didn't quite know our identity. And now slowly but surely, I think we found that and we're going to keep on rolling. And um, he's made some great throws and yeah. I'm sorry, Brandon, I do have one more steep. How many more seconds for you? Brandon, there have been opportunities for you to play a huge role on offense. And, you know, the number of plays you play in game can differ from one week to the next. But the opportunity is coming sooner rather than later for you to be in every down player. Just one of the things you need to do in your game to take it to where it is now to be in every down guy. Um, I think there's a lot of things I could work on in my game. I would say continuing to be football smart, my IQ, just knowing what the defense is going to do before they do it. Um, my routes always can get better. My hands always can get better staying on the jugging machine. Um, work ethic, keep on top of it. Don't get satisfied with anything I do. And don't get too big, don't get too low, don't get too high, don't get too low.

5:08:50That's what they say. Yeah. You feel like a guy that the people follow, it seems like just in your mind, even the just second year guy, that you're kind of working toward being kind of a leadership type guy. Yeah. Um, I got to have guys that will take that role. Yeah. It's a great feeling, of course. The no guys are watching what you do and listening to what you do. Um, but I just feel like we do that with a lot of players here and not just myself, but, um, the leadership we have on this team is like no other. And that's why we got so far, I think. Brandon, thank you very much. Not knowing anything, but to go hard and put his head down. Um, I'm super, super proud of Will and, uh, I think we can't feed off each other. Um, you know, he was a lowly or under recruited guy out of high school. So he always knows it's to go hard and what that looks like. So I'm proud of him. What do you think Max is better at? Absolutely. A lot, a lot of skill. I mean, the guy, um, he fits the room, personality wise. Johnny will tell you that. He's fun to be around. He's an outstanding route runner and he's, uh, he wants to get better.

5:09:53He's hungry, so he's a great addition. We can watch people from the outside will see that a new guy comes in and you guys have four or five guys who feel like they can get reps to. Maybe some people would have thought, it's obviously guys would be wide. Why would you guys say, why is this group so deep and state even though you guys brought in another guy? Yeah, I mean, I think it's just a testament to like how strong this brotherhood is, you know, when, uh, when coach told us that we were bringing him back, so I just, um, I thought it was a great opportunity for me to like, I can worship stuff and he's a great player. And I already have the desire of stuff for me and will and I think now we are sort of really big guys in the room. We just stay fresh. It was a lot of fun there and ultimately become the best players we can be. I think it was, was it Nathan? Yeah, I saw that. Like, take him. I'm not sure you're not watching for these offense, but you guys are getting ready for how quick did you kind of realize that? Like, this guy's legit. Like, you see the numbers, you see the number, you see the number, you realize like this guy's real good. Uh, but what I bet on the first day, he was a class of acting. For me, I think character is a big thing.

5:10:53Um, I had a really medical football player. It doesn't have good character. Um, and I bet on the first day I knew that he was a hard worker. It came in here and just grinded and then, you know, it's showing right now in the field. It's going great. What do you have to do to get better? To get better? To get better? To get better? To get better? Yeah, I mean, I just, I'm not really focused on specific areas. I was going to, uh, come a more polished outrouter, um, and then you get better at blocking and then you get better at past rotation. Um, so real I'm just working on everything, man, hopefully, you know, to get all of this together. I can handle that. Um, I've really good here. Is it feel good to have only touchdown catch from one of the point of action right now? Yeah, I do. Yeah, yeah, that was cool. That was a cool moment to have with them. How's that good working with Julian and Lincoln so far? You guys were so close with the little one. Yeah, it's great. You know, I remember when Lincoln first got here, I was dragging him out to the fields, uh, throw with me. So, uh, me and Lincoln go way back and I'm for the first got here.

5:11:54I love Julian and even Tavius coming in and he's, uh, he's impressed me. So, there's been a lot of talk about the quarterback, existing and leadership that goes just want to see. I mean, how are you seeing those three guys coming to the marriage? You know, as leaders and is it at role? Yeah, I think they at first weren't nowhere near as vocal as Will was when we got here, but I think they're really stepping up in that, in that role. And it's really good to see. All right, thank you. Awesome. Thanks guys. Thanks for sharing. Uh, I mean, just how I was raised, I just know how to work. That's all I had to do. Uh, just give an effort and just going instead of it. I want to say this with full respect. When we see JJ and Sonny, it's like, that makes sense. When you're the third guy, were you surprised to be named? What puts you in that same category? Yeah, I was a little surprised. I kind of have feeling because I kind of like, I mean, I kind of could have guessed it, but like, I just, I just knew that, um, I was one of my goal to talk to you behind Buckeye and I just put in the work that was in there.

5:12:57So, what did you get at now? What did it mean? How did you take it? Um, it was really special right after a text in my parents and, um, they really knew what it meant until like the video came out and the question explained it to them. So then, uh, absolutely. Yeah. That's what I was thinking. Back then, right? It was playing football back then right, bar and games. Did you think you'd tell the difficulties of going back and forth? Not just like we were learning them, but actually it happened to play both football. Um, yeah, it's pretty difficult, uh, especially dirt and game. You have to put the whole mind around. It's not easier in practice because it's like seven down, but like going left in my hand. It's pretty hard, but like in high school, like I was, it was every other player I was in back foot with the triple out. And so like I knew, I knew it, um, um, um, was comfortable with it. And sometimes I just take it, but when I'm walking to the reminds of my screams, I had like, uh, say it to be the say of playing in it. Again, I mean, sometimes I get into my head.

5:13:57I can bring it to back and then put it in the brain and then it's kind of fun to go there. I'm just going to put it in the open setting by back and I can put it out. So it's like, you know, that's also an awesome option. Yeah, so like, I got to set the example, um, and then like, my first two weeks here, I was like teaching them, like, like, I don't know what they're expecting these players because I've seen a new place with them. And even with defense, like, like technique two, because I keep saying technique, but, um, just helping them out because we need to. What's it like, when did the idea of playing tackle kind of come about? They do about like, rap, it seems mental, it's a good, going game, what's it like, when they've had a bad experience about it. Um, it came close to springtime. They want to have, um, they just want to have a good five out there and they don't play the best of it. They just won't get the chance. What's the deal? You do all sorts of hot spots. They're awesome. They're great. A lot of, a lot of eyes, and it's awesome because everyone's watching something. It's not like, uh, someone's only watching this place, so you know what's going on.

5:14:57Going to feedback to you, like, after a play, after a practice, we're like, all three off, we're all five. It's, it's awesome. Uh, they can, they can tell you like everything, because they know like what's the last time I had with, uh, like coach Johnson, coach Dickie's watching, watching the coach, um, the one who feels a lot from right. So like, you know, it was going on, but. How was the experience that you got the big reps and the big games, all that helped, was like coming into the side. It was my confidence, um, and like, and I can like lead the young guys to, so I know it was going on, because they really don't really miss his first time spring. So I like to do my stuff. So I just that leadership of the race. The ability has also been mentioned a lot. It's been all both sides of all playing in different spots. You know, I read on that. Yeah. Um, this. Yeah, I can beat that question. Can you just talk about the versatility that coach has been talking a lot about that. And I feel like you guys in different spots being able to win. Yeah. So like, you all see it in last year. We lost two stars. All maybe started.

5:15:57So like really guys, you stepped up and like going to season. I didn't know I was playing. I started, um, left guard. And I didn't really know I was going to bounce over the right. And what a donny news about Southam tackle. So like, it really helps. Everyone. Like, I think a lot of guys at season are playing multiple positions and it's going to help us. But if you learn from Donnie and. Jock. That. And all that. Just like technique wise, um, they really helped me like pretty snap stuff and my. No one might what's going to be guys. I'm right. I'm pretty twice. All right. Thank you. Yeah. That's only going to motivate him more. So, um, it's fuel to the fire, which I think is good for us having into this week. What was the, what was the first moment that you saw in the fellows? This could be something. Um, I would say. Probably just his, his mindset. Um, not even obviously he's a, you know, he's a, he's a freak when it comes to, you know, um, you know, his, his body and stuff like that.

5:16:57Just his physical nature. But I think just as mindset the way he approached the weight room. It didn't really seem like a way of freshman would and he was our only freshman ever to receive, you know, a ironbuck I reward, which, you know, something I was pushing towards my. My entire time being here, um, but, you know, it takes another level of doing to be able to receive that reward, especially as a freshman. Um, you know, that's kind of what I knew. Steven, what do you mean? More on that. When you and Mara first got here, Gary and Chris were out of the, the way that you guys even was fresh, going to push it to guys who were about to be first round draft picks. And then Mara kind of said the same thing about Karnel and Brandon last year. How did JJ push you guys when he first got here as the young guy and now you guys are the older guys. Yeah, I would say it's very similar. It's kind of the same exact thing. And I'm, you know, I don't know what it is about the culture and zone six, but we keep bringing in these type of people year in and year out. That's what makes our room so great. But I think that, um, something that JJ was able to push me in was just, um, you know, he was able to push me in my leadership.

5:17:59Um, I needed to grow in that aspect, but he also was able to challenge me when it came to the weight room and on the field. Um, because we're always, are always paired together when it came to summer and when our workouts were always lifting together. You know, I get a couple of wins. He get a couple of wins. So, um, it's really that next level, uh, step of, um, competitiveness that I needed and that edge that I needed. That worth the 2474. You guys came into the Tennessee game with a lot of outside motivation with Michigan loss and kind of the three weeks of the talk. I don't obviously there's still that motivation to go on and win a national championship, but how do you keep that kind of edge for a better term mentally after some of that stuff has kind of gone away? Probably the big one. Um, I would say kind of you lose your edge. I wouldn't really call you a true competitor. I think that, you know, the way with the college football playoffs is structured. The intensity cranks up weekend every every single week. So, um, if you're not more intense than you were the last week, then then something's wrong with you. I think that, you know, Tennessee was a great win, great for our momentum, but, um, we have our full focus on Oregon.

5:19:01Not worrying about anything in the past, nothing in the future. Our full focus is towards this game. Um, and then, you know, we win this one. We go on to the next one. Our full focus is going to be on that one. So it's just, um, you keep moving down a ladder like this. Step on cranks, please. I think that's a lot of change in college football and the playoffs and things of that nature. But, you know, the way in some of you and some of your teammates and coaches talk about the Rose Bowl seems like that's one game that's really, you know, maintained a lot of that tradition. You, you played in it. You know, what it's about. Could you explain it to, you know, also, you would never have a chance to play that why the Rose Bowl has maintained, you know, that level of respectful players and coaches. Yeah, I think, uh, I don't know. They're just something about us. I'm in the air down there in the past. It's just a beautiful venue, especially that time of the year. Like you said, the tradition is held year in and year out. And it's kind of the game you dream of playing in when you're a little kid, you know, playing back yard football with your friends. The Rose Bowl is always one that tends to come up. So just having a chance to play in it. It's definitely very surreal. And this is going to be my second time. So I'm going to do my best to take it all in while also being fully focused on organ.

5:20:03Dan, let me worry. Metro will study still has nightmares about that first game in Oregon. And just what kind of drive you seem to him this week wanting to get back to this one? Yeah, Will is, uh, he's a laser focused person. He goes about his business. I mean, he's very loose and he's very calm and he's able to rally the team. But you can see it in his eyes that this game means everything to him. So every single practice, every single huddle, making sure we're sharp, making sure we have a, you know, a better practice than we had last. Um, than yesterday, a better practice in organs having. So, um, his, his full focus is on being, um, this team. And, you know, obviously it's, it's hard not to think about the stuff of the past. But I know he's, he's laser focused on what we got coming up. Tony German, Buck, I have. Matthew, when you're a kid playing back yard, you're about to gain what team we played for. Um, honestly, I wasn't, I was never really, uh, a buck I fan until, you know, I really committed here. And I saw what it was all about. I was actually an organ fan growing up, especially on the Pacific Northwest.

5:21:04Um, you know, my grandpa went to UW and stuff like that. So I like the Huskies too. But, um, there was a legendary football player named Foto Liatto from my high school and he went to organ. Um, and a couple of y'all probably know that story. It's from a couple of years back, but he tragically died in the car accident. Um, and, you know, he was, he was someone I looked up to in high school. Um, you know, I was a relatively close with him, even though he was a bit older than me in age. But, um, just seeing what he did at my high school and then going on to play big time football out organ. Um, that was a school that I really dreamed of going to. Um, they build a bit like this back. I hate to ask you another, uh, Jeremiah question. Is there one moment, one play, one something that made you go, oh, man, I've never seen it before. That's just incredible. Yeah, I'll say it's happened multiple times. There's not really one, I can pinpoint, but the more he does it, the more, um, I tend to react less. So I would say probably my earliest memories of it were in spring bowl. Um, kind of getting the first glimpse of him when he's making all these ridiculous catches and he still does it time and time again.

5:22:07Um, even now, but it's just more common now for me. The land that one, uh, uh, gave the North. But you had, uh, I think it was 12 touches in the first game against Oregon, 10 receptions, two carries. Is there something about this matchup that favors you? And now that you have, where that productive, the first time you played this team, what kind of attention? I guess it's maybe different defenses. Are you expecting to see? Yeah, I mean, we're not entirely sure what their gameplay is going to be, but we're paired for everything. Um, you know, I'm not going to get too much into schemas, stuff like that. But, uh, we know that if the ball comes our way, we've got to make those plays. So whether I have 10 receptions again coming up this game where I have zero or one, we're just looking to get this win on the road, um, because it's really a road game for us, you know, we're just trying to find across two time zones. So, um, I think that, uh, you know, it's going to be a great matchup, but they tend to focus on me more or not. It doesn't really matter to me because I know our team has a great plan regardless. That time for a couple more questions, Spencer, over a letterman role.

5:23:07You guys ever surprised when the game and the strategy car繞 something else in the order two pages? You can kind of feel it throughout the game, I would say. Um, you know, he's, he's a true competitor. He wants to get involved, but at the same time, he's super selfless. He's really humble, so he's going to do whatever it takes for the team to get a win. Um, but it's the competitor nature and then that wants to, you know, contribute as much as he can. Um, you know, I try to be in his ear to tell him to be level head and stuff like that. Not that I need to. He's a very level headed and selfless guy like I'm saying, but, um, you know, sometimes that's just how the game goes. You know, I had a game this year where I only had one catch, um, but, you know, we ended up winning by lot. So, um, I think that, you know, it's, it's hard or it's easy to be focused on the, uh, you know, attributes that you could have game in and game out, but no one's really going to remember those if we're holding up the trophy at the end of the year. He could be a number one, but I think 95% of the bar off the ground, he needs to like, number three. You see his work as a goal of those things that he goes, and there makes play. You guys ever come behind him like, yeah, this guy can absolutely be a number one.

5:24:08The low scouts of bar off the ground. I would disagree with you. I think that he is a number one. I think that we don't have a number three receiver. I think we have three number one receivers out there. So, um, whatever the defense, you know, if they want to put their attention on one guy or a couple of us, um, they're not really doing themselves any favor because we're going to have a favor. We'll match up on the other side of the ball. So, um, that's never how we view ourselves. We know we're alpha dogs out there every single one of us knows we have the capabilities to be a number one receiver. And we are number one receivers. And final question. Steve, how long is 24 hours works? Yeah, and that could be the end of that game. You made one of the clutch plays that passed down the sideline. At any time, when you make that play, you think, and did you ever in your mind that we're going to win this game after we're now close to field goal range.