Press Conferences (Jordan Hancock) Elite Edition September 2

0:00They've been using you, you know, that almost at safety role of stuff. How much is it grown? Did you can put your finger on? Yeah, I was growing immensely. I mean, Caleb, he makes a lot of checks. Latham makes a lot of checks. I listen to them. Whatever they need, if I need to cover somebody, I'll go cover anybody. If they need me to do run support, I'll do run support. And it's really what Caleb does, what we do in Latham. It just goes back to the Cogees preparation. And everyone's preparation to give us more flexibility. And it doesn't matter who's in those positions. And we can all play every position, whether it's covering somebody or running and tackling. Did you feel like that was the case before the Oregon game? You're saying what I'm saying? I mean, is that something's been added? It just, you know, rely on a little bit more. Go ahead. Yeah, it did. I was probably playing a Nebraska game, me getting more safety reps. And we had a five week to prepare. So I really learned to play, but a lot more. Even though I knew to play, but I learned a lot more. I was just in the amount, like in debt.

1:00So really just after the Oregon game, it helped me a lot to go back to safety, go to NICU everywhere. Thanks, man. You Dan, hold on. Let me know, are you sure? Do you guys have had a lot of issues of giving up a big plays in the passing game of the first game against Oregon? What do you feel if you guys need to do better this time around to make sure that doesn't happen? Just the same mindset. We got to challenge these receivers. Every dog has their day. Maybe some people didn't have their day back game. But we'll look out there and hopefully change the narrative. And we still play with the same confidence, same technique. And yeah. Bill Rebino, it's a long list this batch. And Denzel obviously had a tough game. And that one, what have you seen from him and how he's responded? Do you get a sense of from him, how he's for this rematch? Oh, yeah, he's super stoked for this rematch. His preparation has been very good. He's always been preparing. Even though it didn't go the way he wanted to go that game. But he just always had his confidence.

2:02And we're going to see a big game out of him this week. And I know you guys wanted to play them in anapolis. But the fact that you get to play them at the Rose Bowl, get a second chance. And people have said, you don't get that very often. How determined are you guys to take advantage of it? We're super, super determined. We watched film. I mean, we've lost a lot of film. The first time we played them, now we got another six games that they played of film to watch. And they've grown a lot as a team. Same as us. We've grown a lot. We're not the same team. We were when we played them week one or week six or whatever. But now we're out there and going to play fast, physical, and everything like that. All right, Jordan, we're going to jump to the Zoom question here from Joey Kaufman. Columbus, this match. Oh, my bad. Not too Joey. Cameron T. Robinson, the athletic. Hey, Jordan, you've moved around a lot in the second day in your career and now kind of getting some many more safety reps. What is it like at this point when Walt or Coach

3:05Mills comes to you and asks you to do some else? And just how much can you lean on the experiences you've had moving around when you're trying to learn something new in the middle of the season? It means a lot. We always talk about this is even being on selfish, whether that's making plays or not making plays or doing your job so another person can make plays. That's kind of what we pride ourselves on. And it's just fun. Me moving around different positions. I'm always up for a new challenge. And a lot of people in the country can't do that. I just hold myself to that standard where I can play any position and excel at it. OK. If anybody else needs a question, let me know. But otherwise, we can go to Austin Moore, the podcast. Jordan, when you were talking about watching film Oregon, which one do you think is more valuable to you watching it against yourself seven games ago, even if you've changed, or the ensuing six games for Oregon? Which one do you put more stock in? Kind of both. For me, I kind of watched what I did, things I did well,

4:07things I didn't do too well against them. And their team is changing, their scheme has changed. Some players have been out those stretch of games. So I really watched the past game we played. And I know they're going to go back to some of the stuff that they liked, of course. And different games like Penn State, maybe Illinois, they run a lot of men. So just watching stuff like that, every game matters. So yeah. Jordan, thank you very much. Thank you. We plan as much. So I just wanted to get more experience under my belt. So I can bring younger guys with me because I've been going a lot. One of those younger guys, we're seeing it out here. It's the first time in this world. It's like, what have you seen from Lille? Because I don't know. I actually don't real forgot about it because he was hurt. Now he's running almost a second man out behind you and Ty. And what have you seen from that? Well, it was a workhorse. He got to stay quiet. He got to work hard. And that's what I love about him. He focuses. He don't really talk much. He's going to get the job done, do a job right. Rarely has any mistakes.

5:10So what would be a successful season? A national championship? A ring, win, all the games we don't want to lose anything. We got a mindset that we can't be beat. And we just got to go show it. That mindset, different. It seems like you guys expect a national championship every year. This year, even more so. You guys have all come back for this. You guys have all decided like enough as a month. Is that just to keep feeling different? Or is there not really any difference? It's just the same work. It's definitely a difference. Everyone working harder. We noticed our last run. Most of us don't have any years after this. So we got to go bigger, go home, and we're not trying to go home. So it's finished big. We know what you guys think of Michigan. But when you look at what they did, they won the national championship. And you guys took them down to the final minute. Right? You know what I mean? I mean, you were right there. Something goes a little different. You guys could have won that game against them. Does that tell you anything about like that, hey, you guys won a winner national championship. But you played to the 59th minute with the team

6:13that won the national championship last year. Like you're that close. So I'm saying we just work harder. That's kind of a coach makes a saying. Nobody cares. Just work harder. Those won't play Georgia. Same thing. Last play. They went on the win in 90. So we just got to get over that hump at the end of the season. I think we'll be fine. How frustrating is that? You're that close against the last two national titles. Of course, it's frustrating. But you can't change the outcome. You can't really dwell on it. You just got to come back and work harder. Do things better than you did last year. And hopefully the outcome will change. Is that as you get older, you kind of learn. I thought that was working harder than you always find out there's a little more than you could have been doing? Yeah, definitely. I mean, that's what growing up is basically in college. I thought, fresh me here, I was working as hard as I could. But now I look back at it. I really wasn't working hard at all compared to what I'm doing now. So just to learn anything. If the stamina is a 60, then the answer to what do you need it to be to be your best?

7:15It is at 75. It's only at 85. 80, 85? I mean, I can, it's all on me. I think it's a little higher. I was just trying to be funny. But I mean, it's all on me. I just got to run harder. Get the shape. So that's the stamina. You young the hard man. It's been a failure. The idea of a potential is 16 or 17 or 17. You're right. How do you do it? I'm sad about that idea. There's a make you nervous about can you last that long? Do you really need your worries? I'm just going to let that go. I think I can kill that out there. I think I definitely can last. I was just, you know, we got to get the young guys to come along with us. We can't play 50 snaps again. That's just too much on our bodies. Just everybody, like, online, online. We got to get those younger guys to play, you know. Get that pieces on the D-line and online. And everywhere else. So we can last that long. Speaking of the top light playing, I don't know if any of us were really expected to be playing that next time. Ah, yeah, I did. Unless we were like winning by like a lot.

8:15I thought like, there are no moments you know, I can go sit down or something. But we're playing them big games, like, you know, Notre Dame, too, or those kind of games. Of course I want to be, because I know I can contribute. And I won't want to put that on anyone else when I know I can get the job done. What stands out about Kaden McDonald and the ski guy that came up with you guys a little second? Oh yeah, definitely. K-Mac is a K-Mac's animal. Y'all, you haven't really seen it yet, but in practice, he shows all the time. He's just, he's growing right now. He has to work ethic. He just has to get, you know, in the playbook, things like that. You guys are about the exact same size. Listen, you're both listening to Sixth, or you're three-twenty-seven. He's three-twenty-six. Yeah, he's a very honest. I kind of look at him like my junior, but, you know, K-Mac, he's going to be a great player. He's just got to develop more and get in the playbook. So really a lot on you, older guys. There's that large group of young guys, and then there's the seniors in the back. Is that part of your task for this year to bring those guys along as well? Yeah, definitely. We've got to be leaders. Like I said, we've got to have them play this year. We can't just play all the snaps. They've got to get in there and get some work.

9:15And we've got to get them right, burn all season, so they can play. And not just play, they want to, like, contribute, like, make plays, tackle with sex. He's like, let's stay right about this first. You can do it. You can. It seems like these guys get bigs. Each one of the first-man class is bigger or bigger. And those guys kind of, it doesn't kind of allow you to solve the first. Yeah, they're definitely some big dudes. And they all work hard. I've only seen much of some of the day two when I'm passing on. But throughout the workouts, they've been working hard. They're determined to, I would say that. It looks like they're ready to work in the future. How important is that it feels like, because a lot of great defense is that you have big, athletic, defensive tactics who can eat up space, but also move, you know, right to this back. Is that an inquire that maybe for great defense, to have guys like you that have some fault, but also have great team? I think that is definitely. I think if you look at the last couple, not some championship winners, like, team of Northe,

10:16you know, they got two good, uh, detaco, two athletic detacos. Look at Georgia, two athletic detacos. I think that's definitely need if you want to go on that big run, and beat those big teams. If you think about that, they're going to divide by the defense with actors like, what's Georgia, is Jordan Davis and Daniel Carter? What's Michigan? It's Chris Jenkins. Tell them more questions. It is funny how, I mean, you understand it because you play it, but I feel like sometime I don't know. Are people realizing how important defense tackles are? A little bit more than they used to? I think so. I think they're starting to develop to develop more and more of these like freakiest detacos. Yeah. Like in the combine, just now, you see in like those guys, they're moving forward to 478 and things like that. So we'll see. And when you think about those freakiest out there, how do you think you fit into that mold of that kind of player? You watch that and say, yeah, that's me. Yeah, definitely. I think I'm top notch when it comes to detacos, but I don't want to, you know, get a big head, but you know, watch it come on. I watch it do the drills.

11:17I have tape to you like, look at my film. So I think I'm up there with all those lines. I mean, you're like, you're like a, you become like a artist and it comes in bad young passes. Yeah. I think your legs have your things. I mean, you're going to spring practice. You're not doing as much a 11 on 11. That's gross. How do you work on that? Do you have like a goal in mind? I don't remember how many that last year, but you have a goal in mind. How many do you want to have? I mean, as many as I can have, I think I have more than that. But I think he said it on the, I think it counts some of them. And it's some of them where I like just missed it. So, but I think we work on drills matching the hand. I think that's, uh, goes big. And, uh, what we do is a D line, you know, just affecting the quarter of the against. Any way you can is just great for the defense, you know, just that little thing you cover in his eye, you know, he might throw it a little bit to the left to our player. So, so let's something that you really, really have to work on. You can do that with what you can do. It's, it's a theory that's one of the things that you can maybe work on the most. You can do your time here because there are a few guys

12:17that I've seen, like, oh, that passed me two times. We don't have to ask this, but kind of, kind of, kind of expect it for some of those people. I think I just have like a, like, a eye for the ball kind of, I kind of just look at the quarterback and just, I see him like, load up. I just try to get in his ways. And sometimes he just throws it to me. Oh, I'm irritated if you want to be a high state quarterback. So, I'm going to be a bad dumb pass. I mean, they get frustrated, but, you know, we're a team, you know, we're just getting better. I should lot of, a lot of different backs, man, to just learn and grow for them. If you got a pick, you're top three, bags, you got a ball right now, one, two, three. Uh, I don't really have a top three, but I'll give you, I'll give you one. I would say, say, Juan Gibbs and I like McCaffrey. Although he was injured this year, I like McCaffrey. I appreciate it. Who's the best back in this drive? Best back in this drive. I'll lead that up to y'all. That's y'all, that's y'all decision. What do you think about your own member coach

13:17that has played the best back in the world? Playing well, Howard? What I'm going to remember most? We're a Howard, man. He's just such a great leader, man. It's just like, in moments where, you know, usually a lot of players say, fold, man, he was just always calm and relaxed, man. He, just the leader that he was, man, that's one thing I'm going to remember about him. What do you think of James P. Yeah, he's, shoot. He's going to be really good, man. He's on Coach Lock. I think he got the transfer in as well from West Virginia. Just that one, two punch with them both as well. They're going to be really good backs. And so James P. was, man, he's smart the way that he goes about his business, man, he's mature. And so, man, he's growing, you know, just as a person in as a player. And so, man, yeah, definitely Ohio State, you know, that running back room is in great hands. I was riding on my dad's looking at his POC spot and put on his top face, and personality, and the coach helped keep that up. It's all in the same way. Yeah, Coach Hartline, man, he's full of energy, man.

14:17And he's creative as well, you know, I'm just learning from him as well, you know, trying to run more outside the backfield, was being able to learn from Coach Hartline. And so, he's definitely creative at what he does, and he brings a lot of energy to the team as well. And so, I think that would do really good. Straight away, he's got a way to play off run. I can't wait to see what strength it takes. Just that intensity, man. And since he got the playoffs, every game, man, is like the intensity got higher and higher. And so, you know, being able, I know in the lead, it's the same thing, even if it's not the playoffs, just every game and the intensity, it keeps getting higher and higher. And so, yeah, you just, I know you got to bring it, you know, each and every day, and come in and work, just like Ohio State. You know, I definitely feel like Ohio State, they definitely do a good job of preparing us for that. You know, I just remember, even before going through this process, I'll talk to a lot of players before that. And they told me a lot of just about how much Ohio State prepared them, you know, for the NFL. And so, yeah. You should've been here, Richard. I'm not sure if you could talk about it.

15:18You should be able to play off run. Yeah. Yeah, I know I took a couple of days off after the National Championship. And then, shoot, right after that, I'm right in Sample Florida, and I'm right to it. And so, yeah, I think while I trained, I trained at Yo-Murth Performance. I think it's called the House of Athlete or the Compound now. They did a good job, man. They're just bringing us in. And the way they went about training us, man, they did a really good job. I mean, that would be cool, you knew it? The bucking nears. No, I haven't. Do you think it's a city champion? Temple, a champion, nice. It's a nice city, man. Really nice. I think it's really easy for me. The 40, the broad and the vert. Train, you've been on the races, it's an awesome locker. Do you speak to your mentality of when you've got a line back or something in the shaft, bigger than you and you're in ready to score a ball? Yeah. Yeah, no, man. It's really all about technique. And then it's about mindset as well. And so I say, it's for the love of my brother.

16:19It's for the love of Wil Howard. It's for the love of the receivers who I got on the perimeter. Just making sure, first of all, my quarterback doesn't get sacked. And I told Wil I think it was before the first game. I was like, I got your brother. It's like, I said, man, I'm not going to let you get hit. And so I don't know if I gave up a sack. I'm not sure that. But I know if I did, I haven't given up too many. And so, man, it's for the love of my brothers, though, man, making sure that the ball get in their hands, the guys on the outside and making sure they get fed. So you had to hit the practice field later today. What is something you've been working on right now? In my game, you can't really work on this. In all season, I feel like it's more so. You got to put the pads on. You got to go through some inside run. Maybe it's really just continuing run through tackles. And so that's one of the areas in my game. I want to continue to get better. I feel like I did a good job at that my senior year. And so I just want to continue to build on that. So you get all the sides of your team? Yes, I did. Yes, I did.

17:19So people trained on it, you look like a lot of them are out there. You get back in nursing. Have you met them before? I did meet with New Orleans as well. I never got that comparison. Actually, I know I have a Camera shoe. Yeah, man, I have a Camera. Great, great back, man. Just what he does and those 101 matchups, he's dangerous, man. And he's so smooth. He's so smooth as well. I'm not going to lie. He's smooth. So it's your favorite offence? Yeah. Yeah. Inside zone from stack, being able to hit that thing downhill. And I'll say the next one is probably just an option out of the backfield. And man coverage, you're getting on that line backer. And so. Maybe it will be here a couple of years, Jeremiah. You'll have the perfect course. It will be a challenge. It's how you approach it. It's always a good thing. And that pressure is so much attention. Like I said. Yeah, I say to man, the biggest thing is the way

18:20that he carries himself, man, and the way that man, he approaches the game. He comes in with the mindset, you know, he's going to work every single week. You know, every practice, you know, he's working hard, you know, even shoot it. I don't know. I think he had a, every game was a good game for him, man. So, but still, man, he always has the mentality to mindset that, you know, he's going to come in each and every day. He's going to continue to work and get better, man. And so he's definitely man. He's going to be a special player, man. He really is. Man, a lot of ups and downs, man, it's just how you respond to adversity. And I feel like that's something that God has definitely helped me to do better. Is this, I'm not having something to lean on now. You know, I remember before I met him, you know, going through those adversity, I had nothing to run to. You know, you can run to people, but they still can't, it's not too much. They can't truly help you. You know, I feel like, you know, I feel like the only person that can truly help you is your relationship with Jesus Christ.

19:20And so, being able to lean on him, you know, he gives you, in those moments where it's tough, you know, where it's low. And when you're behind the scenes and you're going through things that people don't know about, he gives you, he gives you that peace and comfort. You know, even in those moments, man, where it's so hard that you can't, you can't explain. It's like, man, I'm going through this, but like, how am I still filled with this internal joy? You know, how do I have so much peace in this situation? And so that's something that only Jesus Christ can give you. And so, The back of the firm, Peterson Power and Judges, who are Black men? Which aspect could be to those other individuals that you run to, and from being around power and... Um, man, those guys have such a great mentality, man. I just really love their mentality, especially Q as well. You know, I talked about Will Howard, his leadership, but Quincham mentality, man. That boy just, yeah, that boy just gifted. You know, you see, you know, sometimes he put in a situation where he looked like, you know, he should have a negative five yards.

20:24And as soon as you know it, you know, he, that running through somebody, still farming somebody, and shoot, it's a game to 10. And so... You some of the things he does, he just realizes two different things actually. Shoot, I think... Yeah, man, I think it's just like, he's just gifted, man, to be honest. He's just gifted, you know, he's a big back, you know, he's strong, and so, you know, he's able to do those things. Yeah, man, it's definitely, you know, I look at his game, and I want to, you know, at the same time, I want to learn from Quincham. You know, I want to look at his game, and it's like, man, where can I get better at as well? You know, that's the type of player I am. I'm always looking to get better, man. I'm always looking to grow as a player. What are your last moments of dreams? Juel and San. Oh, yeah, he's going to be a great, he's going to be a great quarterback, man. So accurate, and so, he's definitely, man, I know Coach Dez is definitely going to get him right. Just, you know, continuing to grow as a leader, continuing to grow as a player. And so, he's going to be really good for a high state. I know just the quarterback position, I feel like, you know, the quarterbacks in the past, they've definitely been vocal.

21:29And so, I feel like that's something that they're definitely going to ask of Juel and San as well. It's to be that vocal leader and lead the offense and lead the team. Next track. Shoot, man, he has a build like JK Dobbins. And I kind of see them, you know, similar, similarities in their game as well. And I know JK Dobbins, he was a great running back. I feel like he's not talked about his none. A lot, but man, his career here, you watch his highlights is great. I remember before I recruit, before I committed here, I remember watching JK Dobbins highlights like every, every one of his years here, like four or five times. And so, man, he was such a great back. And I feel like, you know, when I see JK Dobbins, when I see James people, I see similarities to both of their games, I feel like they play the same. And so, appreciate you all.

22:36Thank you. Thank you.

23:36Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I'm really glad to hear that. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. All I got coming in last shot, I knew it was all so I just tacked every day. Really the same way. It's taking a very rare physically very different. Are you weight wise, body wise, all that from the year? I think I got a lot bigger. I'm like 240. I'm like 240 for right now. Last year I played at like 236 to 37.

24:42What does it feel like at 244 or a value? You feel like almost a different machine out there. Yeah, like what does it feel like to be running around out there like you are but with more and more back? I just feel like I'm like like like more downhill like stronger like I'm taking all blocks better. It's bigger. Maybe that's not the correct term but to think you're going to be playing much more than you did even last year and you played quite a bit last year and stuff. What do you have to get straight in your head about being on the field that much more? Is it going to get ready to just play 30 more snaps? How would you describe how much you're looking forward to it from an 8-stand point? I'm looking forward to it. I'm ready for it. The text is opener. It's a rematch. It's not really two different teams compared to the last time you all played and stuff. How has that enhanced this camp for you and this team getting ready for the where an opener of that magnitude?

25:42Yeah, with an opener like that we've been emphasizing it a lot. We know we got coming so we know we got to do it. I already just probably worked with it. I think Riley ready to play right now. He advanced freshman. He ended up here in the book. He stood in like he advanced and his measurements was crazy. He saw it and saw it. You said you're ready. What was that process like during last season? Could you feel yourself becoming more and more ready? Yeah, because that's pretty much what my role was. Whenever I was needed I had to step up. I feel like that's what built me into me being able to say I'm ready for this year. When you say ready, is it more a physical thing? Is it a mental thing? When I say ready, I think it's pretty much like everything physically, mentally, mostly. I think I'm there. What difference is that feeling this year's analyze? Asked one more time.

26:48I feel like it's a way bigger responsibility with me having to step up this year. But I kind of go about it the same way. Like last year I was attention over everything I did. I feel like this year is going to be the same thing. It's probably a little bit more. It won't work. How many words do I say? I say, describe my game. I say, when you think of me, you would think of like a bully, like a silver bullet. I don't really a bully. I'm always on the ball. That's how I like to play and think. No, I ain't got to be my nickname, but. I feel like I'm a bully. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's it.

27:49I think it fit me because I don't know. I just like the defense. I feel like we got, like you said, we got a lot of freedom. I don't know. I don't really know how to answer that. That's okay. You can go on your instincts a little bit more. Maybe that's not so thinking of too much. I don't even know if I say that because there's a lot of thinking going on, but it's like I just like his defense. I like how the pressure deep is I like what you got going on. Now I want to say that I was kind of like happy fun. Yeah, that's what you want. No, no. That's my dog. So yeah, kind of missing a little bit, but I'm happy fun. Well, thank you. Go ahead one last but coach days talked a lot about the guys who played some last year, but maybe weren't the starters and the hunger for that wasn't maybe your national championship you guys will win your own. How much do you feel that is a guy who certainly contributed last year, but will be in this bigger role and a lot of some of your classmates?

28:55Yeah, I do feel like, um, yeah, I do feel like I did win a national championship, but like you said, my role wasn't same as how it's going to be this year. So yeah, I definitely want to want to go get another one experienced that like feeling with me be on the field, a lot more place. Great. Oh, Bill, thank you very much. I feed and I just see what you can do right now. Sometimes I'm still sometimes like basketball, I want to be on that just like defend, but you know, I got to stay in the stage playing some of us. Exactly. Yeah, that's a great question. I mean, I feel like these two can answer that for the beer right now. I think KTA and Euro can answer that. I don't know what to say about that. What do you guys think? I go against every day. You know, this man is strong. I'm talking about like you get the basketball field. You sound like you can't just see what he said. He was really fast. Just over on the surface. He had, and he got the grip.

29:57He doesn't give up on the playing. Like you said, he's going to go in and watch the film. It's like a coach man. He's like a coach. Chip Kelly's in full exchange. Your mind about maybe like the idea of tackle versus garden because obviously his offensive predilection is for like offensive. as you can, a part of you settling in the guard? I want to say maybe, I don't know, but I mean, when I'm pretty sure you got the job, I was really excited because I'm one of those guys who's the tempo, I can run with the tempo, you know what I mean? I'm playing basketball all life in set up football and I feel like just the fast pace off and so we're running. It really fits the guys we have right now. I'm really excited for that. I know you can throw a football like 65 yards, but can you kick a football? 75 yards of quick interest? Probably question.

30:57Lincoln, what's your question? How is your, your roommate, I can view him. He's a blessing man, I can't complain. He's a great guy. What's his name? His name's Lincoln. Keen Holtz. Oh, he's a cleaner. I think we're both really clean, that's why we kind of picked each other as roommates because we're very clean and we don't like our rooms really messy. Well it's true though, it's true, they're both pretty clean. Luke, are you still a cross-training at Tagel some or have you just been all guard this break? So far I've been all guard. I really don't know. Like I said, I'm taking it practice by practice. I could end up being back at Tagel, I could not, but I'm just really focused in on this past practice and the next one would be some. What do you mean? Oh, that mean a lot. You know, you put a lot of work in to play here. And it's been a dream just for being in Ohio kid. I'm from a Ohio kid's perspective. I mean, that's the biggest wish possible. I would just, I would say, that's, that'd be pretty cool.

31:58What was it like just last year at first game getting on the field for the first time? What kind of guy? It didn't, like, this is gonna be a weird answer, but it could feel like I was playing a game yet, if that makes sense. I was pretty locked in. I felt like just no anxiousness, no stress, no nothing really. I just went in that first game, was like, shoot out here now, it's time to roll, you know? It didn't really hit me. I was like, it didn't even hit me after, but my mom was like, what would you feel there? And if like, getting out there at the end of it, I just like, honestly, I don't know. I felt less nervous than I did in high school and it makes no sense. A lot, I mean, I'm learning from Josh Aniston. I think, prior to that, when my biggest role model is here, he's my bigger brother in my first game over here. So I'm up to Dian? I don't know if it's to Dian. Okay. Yeah, no. Yeah, yeah. So, yeah, to Dian Austin, those are my guys, man. I mean, even Miles too, I mean, all three of them, those are my roommates and they're progressing every day as well on. And I'm excited to see where they can get to. I'm excited to play on the field with them.

33:00Oh, yeah, Enoch's been really helpful, you know? Just keeping my mind just settled and straightforward on the next play. It's a great question. Like I said, I mean, I just need to stay consistent in my work, I think. That's the biggest thing for me is just ain't consistent and worry about the next play. So you got it from the guy you were in the play. Yeah. Wow, that's weird. Yeah, that's mean, I guess they didn't want to get my nerves up, but like I was ready. I mean, I did, I took most of the ones, perhaps all camping, I mean, I was already, I was pretty much set. Yeah, I wasn't really nervous, I started the game. What was his advice to you? He said, you got it. You mean, you're going against Tyleek and Kyle every day in practice, I mean, it's not different. Almost different. You now, though, two weeks into the two-star tent, as a player, you know, having that under your belt. I'm more confident. I know what's going on. I can see, like, I can see what's going on with the defense.

34:00I know what's going on. I know what's coming. I mean, I understand them, the game's a lot better than what it was. I don't say last year. Which adds up to what? Fast, the start, the end, etc. You playing with that dust for a while? I mean, if we get out early, it's, you get the defense change in place. It's changing their defense. Start fast, they're trying to get the call in the play, but you start fast, I'm not going to back you. Which has a lot of touch-ups. Yeah, of course, Dave's pretty much dead, though. He deserved the play, man. You know, let's come to our last question. What, were you expecting this week in terms of your role? Um, wherever they need me, if it's left right, wherever it's I didn't go in, I'd go in and go to talk to Dave in front of me. How did I play in Tyleek? Took me back to high school days, but I should back in high school, it was really random ball luck, really, and doing passes, but it was fun, change, and you got my feet better, I would say. How confident you feel like you could play there if you need? If they want me there, I'll guess I'll play there.

35:01I mean, they need me, they need me. Also in the illness that swept through the office of the line room. A lot of times, coaches and players just said that that was still relying for the groom. You know, getting you experience among others. What was that like for you and double dipping, playing some tag or playing some guard, the same practice as that? Um, it was based like a group effort, like for me, we had guys out and we just had to go back practice. All five guys, wherever they were playing, we just got to go. How much of that accelerate your development, like that time with the ones you were actually going? They really said, then I was jumped in there, I didn't really know. So we wanted to practice with practices, but like after those, I was like, I was good. You know, my confidence grew. Yeah. It seemed like there was sort of a settling in process for you and the Akron game, maybe play got better if the game went on. It really seemed to, especially in the ground game, things seem to take effect. What was there a moment when it clicked on the field for you?

36:02Like was there nerves and then a time of settling in? I guess how, take me through kind of that first game mentally? Yeah. First game, obviously you can have nerves for the first time, so I'm sorry. But then like after the first couple of plays, meaning I'm nerves naturally, so that's the first couple of play that I was good, I was just rolling. Also, there's a weird meaning for the first time. I was trying to play in the high state, it was also the first start. Yeah. You, yeah, it's, but like, I prepared well and camp and practice all week. And I was, I was ready. Um, yeah, I have two multi-year starters. It did a lot. I mean, I couldn't ask them, hey, what we got here, but I was prepared well. I was telling Jimmy and said, it's like, hey, we, we're in a classroom. I'll be emotional, excited. What's the guy from Ohio? What does it mean to start a beginning? Um, it was always my dream to come here and play and start

37:03and having that like, I mean, I just like keep going, keep building those days, and go to games and just keep building. What a much younger Austin, though, you do it, you keep posting me with that? Uh, no, not really. I don't think, even, I told him, like, I asked him, yeah, younger self, even committed him, I wouldn't believe that. Now, having a couple of starts, yeah. Awesome. Has this happened faster than you? I think we're going to come here with the players, I guess you're technically a sophomore, I think you can play as a richer professional. No, I knew that year two, I was going to see you some playing time. Now, starting week one, year two, I didn't see that, but like, I was ready in spring ball, like, I knew I was going, I was going to play some soccer. But, so. What does it mean to you to, it's not only get the opportunities to play, but it's like you play well enough now, and coaching staff trust you, you're being able to put it right there, whatever the situation is, but it's that earned that, so early on in your career. I guess it shows like my preparation, my hard work,

38:07and just everything I put into this, and I just finally show up on a field. There are moments, the top season, the end of the spring, and training camp, but I don't realize that you could play at this high level, high up with the ones, you know, if you need to. Yeah, but definitely was in a training camp. I mean, blocking highly can tie every day, so like, it feels, it feels a lot of confidence, and doing it well, and not like getting balled or anything. So, there's defensive tag wasn't that, I was just out of the team, you know, hero in Jason Moore in Taiwan, all those guys, I mean, pretty much anyone on the defensive line gets your face all the time, so, and Kay mag as well, so. Yeah. I'm also used to a lot of my hard work, I collected how about this ability, and the greatest in a lot, how much can he help you, and how you actually can serve your best friend? He helped me a lot, and I'm proud that he's, our starting center, not someone else's, but, I mean, he's like the captain of the line. He's another voice on the line,

39:08with guys like Josh Fryer, Josh Simmons, Donnie and Tiger, that means another voice and another captain on the line. He's like, ways of having, and I'm with this much experience. Help. During the year, in the middle of the year, I mean, a lot, he can tell you, like before the play was going on, like how to block someone, like, what you need to do, and it helps a lot. Tiger is talking about how calm he is, and how much does that benefit you? You have a guy who's kind of been there, and seeing the line. It makes us more calm, especially me and Tay, as a first star, so we were up here, with Seth, he brought us down, and we were like five. Like our emotions weren't high, we settled in. Is that something he tells you, is that something you could pick up on by how he's acting, how do you kind of mean sense what he's trying to do? By how he's acting, and what, I mean, him, when we're on the side of him, both Josh Donney, like he was telling us, like, hey, we're cool, like we got it, but it's pretty much like, oh, everyone,

40:09old cool group. How much do you do that? As a first time starter, how much did you end that? Me, and a lot. That was my first time ever using iPads. We didn't use the iPads in high school, but, I mean, you can, so like, try to remember the defense, you can just come on the side, and bring up a play and get help up really, and then, probably the first or second, but after that, I thought we'd say all right. And so, great. Josh Donney, thank you very much. You think it seems like training part is a part of a good timeable thing, or getting bigger and stronger. Yeah, it's like the culture part. Yeah. And it's how much of a factor is that in a part of your change? It's also, it's a lot. And I mean, I feel like you can't be able to transform your body like I have with people here, come and do that without having that mentality part with it. It's like we always talk about competitions here, and our culture is fight, so we're always here to compete.

41:10And I feel like that is just, that's what gets you in this mindset. When you talk about that transformation, can you just give us a little sense, maybe with numbers or body fat, or what do you do in the weight group, how big is that transformation? I don't have really specific numbers, but it's more just like, I can just, I feel like feeling when I'm playing. Like I remember how I felt the play when I just got here and now, I know how it feels to play like, like just today, like it feels physically different on my body. It's like, it's, I'm getting used to it, that makes sense. That was, you guys, I can't imagine feeling like that. Padilla also said about you, that you are just a completely different guy from last year. We're here to work this year, so get it done. Do you feel like you weren't at that place mentally? I think I was, but I think I had some,

42:13I would say, like, kind of like confidence issues, like I was just, but, you know, I mean, I work past it and I know, I know who I am, and I know I can be here. So, Should a past confidence issues, how do you get through it? Is it yourself, is it teammates, is there someone in your family that makes you believe that you can do it? I know I can do it. It's not like, those are all, it's on the past now. Did the past of play time and the very obvious opportunity, guys had to step up and be able to be on the business, that helped you get over that confidence issue there, because it's now a demo, it's a good opportunity. So, kind of, it's just like, just, I mean, it's just being here, like I feel like being here every day, working with the guys every day, it's just like, you know, you become this person that you might not have, like,

43:15you might not have felt like you were before that, but like coming here, working every day, stacking these days, like, like, you know, I just feel like I realized who I am, and I know what I can do now. Well, I want to maybe, I'm not sure what is the trouble, are you? This is the second kind of, like, convince yourself that you actually belong here, and you're good. I knew I could play here. I mean, it's just, it was like the, like, I just, I'm not sure if I can do it. Like, I just, I don't know how to explain it. I just, like, I've always known I could play here. It's just, I'm just, like, let's go. Like, I'm ready, like, I'm ready to attack. What are the guys doing to help you to figure that out? To that point? For sure, I think KJ was a big influence, Tye Hamilton, Tye League, they all, they all helped me a bunch last year, kind of just pushing through, you know. All right, well, playing as much. So I just wanted to get, like, more experience under my belt. So I can, you know, bring younger guys with me

44:15because I've been through a lot of good. One of those younger guys we're seeing right here, it's the first time I've scored all of his last years. What have you seen from Will? Because I kind of felt like last year, we all forgot about him because he was hurt. Now he's running, you know, almost a second man off behind you and Tye. What have you seen to your younger kids? Will is a workhorse. He, he goes, stay quiet. He's going to work hard. And that's all I love about him. He focuses. He don't really talk much. He's going to get the job done. Do a job right. Rarely has any mistakes. What would be a successful season? A national championship? Ring? When all the games we don't want to lose anything. We got a mindset that we can't be beat. And we just got to go show it. I'm saying, that mindset different. Seems like you guys expect a national championship every year. This year, even more so, you guys have all come back for this. You guys have all decided, like, that nothing's going to be a different season. Is that the case? Is that the case? You can feel the difference? Or is there not really any difference? It's just the same. It's definitely a difference. Everyone working harder.

45:15We noticed our last run. Most of us don't have any years after this. So we got to go, go bigger, go home, and we're not trying to go home. So it's finished big. We know what you guys think of Michigan. But when you look at what they did, they won the national championship. And you guys took them down to the final minute. Right? You know what I mean? I mean, you were right there. Something goes a little different. You guys could have been one that came against them. Does that tell you anything about like that, hey, you guys want to win a national championship? But you played to the 59th minute with the team that won the national championship last year. Like you're that close. So I'm saying, we just work harder. That's kind of coach makes of saying, you know, nobody cares, just work harder. Like those, you know, we'll play Georgia. It's the same thing. Yeah. Last play, you know, they went on the win in 90. So we just got to get over that hump at the end of the season. I think we'll be fine. How frustrating is that? You're that close against the last two national titles. Uh, of course, as you know, it's frustrating. But you can't change the outcome. You can't really dwell on it.

46:17You just got to, you know, come back and work harder. Do things better than you did last year. And hopefully the outcome will change. As that is, you get older, you kind of learn. I thought that was working harder than you always find out. There's a little more you could have been doing. Yeah, definitely. I mean, that's how that's what growing up is basically in college. I thought freshman year I was working. It's hard as I could, but now I look back at it. I really wasn't working hard at all compared to what I'm doing now. So just to learn anything. If the stamina is a 16, then the answer to like, what do you need it to be to be your best? Uh, 80, 85. I mean, I can, it's all on me. I just, I think it's a little higher. I was just trying to be funny. But I mean, it's all on me. I just got to run harder in shape. The idea of the potential to be 16 or 17 or 17. I have about that idea. Does it make you nervous about, can you last that long? Do you have worries? I think I'll kill that off the rack.

47:17I think I definitely can last. I was just, you know, we got to get the young guys to come along with us. We can't play 50 snaps again. That's just too much on our bodies. Just everybody's like, online, D line. We got to get those younger guys to play, you know, get that pieces on the D line and the online. And everywhere else. So we can last that long. Speaking of that, we'll have a light game. And then we'll snap. If you like playing that mini snap again last year, if you love them, I don't know if any of us were really expected to be playing that mini snap. Uh, yeah, I did. Unless we were like winning by like a lot. Uh, I thought like, there are no moments you know, I can go sit down or something. But we're playing them big games like, you know, Notre Dame too, or Notre Dame's those kind of games. Of course, I want to be, because I know I can contribute. And I won't want to put that on anyone else when I know I can get the job done. What stands out about Kaden McDonald is he got the key. You guys in a second. Oh, yeah, definitely. K-Mac is a K-Mac's animal. Y'all, you haven't really seen it yet. But in practice, he shows all the time. He's just, he's grown right now. He has to work, I think. He just has to get, you know, in the playbook, things like that.

48:19You guys are about the exact same size. Listen, you're both listening to 6th, or you're 327. He's 326. Yeah, he's, I kind of look at him like my junior. But, you know, K-Mac, he's going to be a great player. He's just got to develop more in getting the playbook. So really a lot on you older guys. There's that large group of young guys and then there's the seniors in the back. Is that part of your task for this year to bring those guys along as well? Yeah, definitely. We got to be leaders. Like I said, we got to have them play this year. We can't just play all the snaps. They got to get in there and get some work. And we got to get them right, learn all season so they can play. And not just play, they want to like contribute, like make plays, tackle, sex. That's a good thing. That's a good thing. That's a good thing. It seems like these guys get bigger. Each one of the freshmen class is a bigger, bigger. Do those guys kind of, it doesn't kind of allow you on the cell in the first? Yeah, they definitely use some big dudes. And they all work hard. I'm going to be seeing much of some lead day too. I'm not passing on. But throughout the workouts, they've been working hard. You know, they're determined. I'd say that.

49:19And it looks like they're ready to work with me. How important is this dude? It feels like there's a lot of great defenses that you have big athletic defensive tactics who can eat up space, but also move, you know, right? That is that. Is that an inquire maybe from a great defense? To have guys like you that have some fault, but also a great team? I think that is definitely. I think if you look at the last couple of national champions and winners, like Team up North, they you know, they got two bit, uh, detaco, two athletic detacles. Look at Georgia two athletic detacles. I think that's definitely neat if you want to go on that big run and beat those big teams. If you think about this, if they want to find by the defense, because actors like, what's Georgia? Jordan Davis and James Carter. Let's miss you again. It's Chris Jenkins. Tell them more questions. You might as well ask how, I mean, you understand because you play it, but I feel like some time that I don't know are people realizing how important defense tackles are a little bit more than they used to?

50:21I think so. I think they're starting to develop to develop more and more of these like freakiest detacles. Yeah. Like in the combine, just now, you see in like those guys, they're moving four to four, seven, eight, and things like that. So we'll see. And when you think about this freakish out there, how do you think you fit into that bold of that kind of player? You watch that and say, yeah, that's me. Yeah, definitely. I think I'm top notch when it comes to detacles, but I don't want to, you know, get a big head, but you know, watch the combine. I watch it do the drills. I have tapes here. You're like, you're looking my, my film. So I think I'm up there with all those. It's totally good. Do you become like a artist when it comes to the bad guy that passes the figure away, he's kind of your thing? When you're going to spring practice, you're not doing as much a weapon or the weapon. That's the thing. How do you work on that? Do you have like a goal, what, my, I don't remember how many you had last year, but like, you haven't go on that. How many do you want to have? I mean, as many as I can have, I think I have more than that, but I think they're counting. I think they're counting some of them.

51:22And it's some of them where I like just listed it. So, but I think we work on drills matching the hand. I think that's, uh, goes big. And, uh, what we do is a D line, you know, just affecting the quarterback is anyway you can. It's just great for the defense, you know, just that little thing covering his eye, you know, he might throw it a little bit to the left to our player. So, so it's something that you really, really have to work on. You can do that with what you do. It's, it's, it's really that's one of the things that you've maybe worked on the most. I'm just trying to keep it in your time here, because there are a few guys that I've seen, like, oh, that pass rate is down. We don't have to ask this. I kind of kind of expect it for the difference. I think I just have like a, like, a eye for the ball kind of, I kind of just look at the quarterback and just, I see him like load up. I just try to get in his ways. And sometimes he just throws it to me. Oh, no. How irritated you are to the Ohio State quarterbacks, do you have any bad down passes? I mean, they get frustrated, but you know, we're a team, you know, we're just getting better. Watch a lot of, a lot of different backs, man. They just learn to grow for them.

52:22You got to pick your top three backs. You got to go right now. One, two, three. Uh, I don't really have a top three, but I'll give you, I'll give you one. I would say, say, Juan Gibbs and... I like McCaffrey. Auto, he was injured this year. I like McCaffrey. I appreciate it. Who's the best back in this drive? Best back in this drive. I lead out of the yard. That's y'all decision. What do you all remember most about playing with Howard? Playing with Will Howard. What I'm going to remember most. We're a Howard, man. He's just such a great leader, man. It's just like in moments where, you know, usually a lot of players, they fold, man. He was just always calm and relaxed, man. He just the leader that he was, man. That's one thing I'm going to remember about him. Yeah, he's shoe... He's going to be really good, man. He's coastline. I think he got the transfer in as well from West Virginia.

53:22Just that one, two punch with them both as well. They're going to be really good backs. And so James, people's, man. He's smart the way that he goes about his business, man. He's mature. And so, man, he's growing, you know, just as a person and as a player. And so, man, yeah, definitely Ohio State. You know, that running back room is in great hands. Yeah. Coach Hartline, man. He's full of energy, man. And he's creative as well, you know. I'm just learning from him as well, you know. I'm trying to run more outside the backfield. It was being able to learn from Coach Hartline. And so, he's definitely creative at what he does. And he brings a lot of energy to the team as well. And so, I think that would do really good. Just the intensity, man. And since he got the playoffs, every game, man, it's like the intensity got, you know, higher and higher. And so, you know, being able, I know in the lead, it's the same thing. Even if it's not the playoffs, just every game and the intensity

54:25it keeps getting higher and higher. And so, yeah, you just, I know you got to bring it, you know, each and every day and come in and work. And just like Ohio State, you know, I definitely feel like Ohio State. They definitely do a good job of preparing us for that. You know, I just remember even before going through this process, how I'll talk to a lot of players before then. And they told me a lot of just about how much Ohio State prepared them, you know, for the NFL. And so, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I know I took a couple of days off after the National Championship. And then, shoot, right after that, I'm writing sample Florida and I'm right to it. And so, yeah, I think while I trained, I trained at your most performance, I think it's called the House of Athlete or the Compound now. They did a good job, man. They're just bringing us in and the way they went about training us, man. They did a really good job. I mean, have you played in the NBA? The Bucking Niers. No, I haven't. We think it's City Tampa. Tampa, Tampa, nice.

55:26It's a nice city, man. Really nice. The 40, the broad and the vert. Yeah. Yeah. No, man. It's really all about technique and then it's about mindset as well. And so, I say, you know, it's for the love of my brother. It's for the love of Will Howard. It's for the love of the receivers who I got on the perimeter. Just making sure, you know, first of all, my quarterback doesn't get sacked. And I told Will, I think it was before the first game. I was like, I got your brother. It's, I said, man, I'm not going to let you go. I'm not going to let you go. I'm not going to let you go. I said, man, I'm not going to let you get hit. You know, and so I don't know if I don't know if I gave up a sack. I'm not sure that, but I know if I did, I haven't given up too many. And so, man, it's for the love of my brothers, don't man. Making sure that the ball get in their hands, you know, the guys on the outside and making sure they get fed.

56:29In my game, you can't really work on this, you know, in all season. I feel like it's more so, you know, you got to put the pads on. You got to go through some inside run, you know, maybe. It's really just continuing to run through tackles. And so that's, I feel like that's one of the areas in my game. You know, I want to continue to get better. I feel like I did a good job of that in my senior year. And so I just want to continue to build on that. Yes, I did. Yes, I did. Uh, I did meet with New Orleans as well. I never got that comparison. Actually, I know I have a Camera. Sure, yeah, man, I have a Camera great, great back, man. Just what he does and those 101 matchups, he's dangerous, man. And he's so smooth. He's so smooth as well. I'm not going to lie. He's smooth. Yeah. Inside zone from stack, being able to hit that thing downhill. And I'll say the next one is probably just an option

57:33route out of the backfield. You know, a man and man coverage. You're getting on that line backer. And so. Yeah, I say the man the biggest thing is the way that he carries himself, man, in a way that man, um, he approaches the game. He comes in with the mindset, you know, he's going to work every single week. You know, every practice, you know, he's working hard. You know, um, even shoot, I don't know every good, I think he had every game was a good game for him, man. And so, but still, man, he always has the mentality to mindset that, you know, he's going to come in each and every day. He's going to continue to work and get better, man. And so he's definitely man. He's going to be a special player, man. He really is. I mean, you look like someone who's been watching you. Man, a lot of ups and downs, man, it's just how you respond to adversity.

58:34And I feel like that's something that God has definitely helped me to do better. It's just, um, not have something to lean on now. You know, I remember before I met him, you know, going through those adversity, I had nothing to run to, you know, you can run to people, but they still can't. It's not too much, they can't truly help you. You know, I feel like, you know, I feel like the only person that can truly help you is your relationship with Jesus Christ. And so, um, being able to lean on him, you know, he gives you in those moments where it's tough, you know, where it's slow. And um, when you're behind the scenes and you're going through things that people don't know about, um, he gives you, he gives you that peace and comfort, you know, um, even in those moments, man, where it's so hard that you can't, you can't explain. It's like, man, I'm going through this, but like, how am I still feel with this internal joy? You know, how do I have so much peace in this situation? And so, that's something that only Jesus Christ can give you. And so, The fact that you're from, uh, Peterson Power and Judgment, you've experienced that, which aspect of each of those other individuals that you run to, the model of the game from being around the power of the hands? Um,

59:36man, those guys have such a great mentality, man. Um, I just really love their mentality, especially, um, Q as well, you know, I talked about Will Howard, his leadership, but Quinchiam mentality, man, um, that boy just, yeah, that boy just gifted, you know, uh, you see, you know, sometimes he put in a situation where he looked like, you know, he should have a negative five yards. And as soon as you know it, you know, he, he's running through somebody, stiff arm and somebody and she, that's a game to 10. And so, uh, um, shoot, I think. Yeah, man, I think it's just like, he's just gifted, man, too, beyond it. He's just gifted, you know, he's, he's a big back, you know, he's strong and so, um, you know, he's, he's able to do, he's able to do those things. And so, um, yeah, man, it's definitely, you know, I look at his game and I want to, you know, at the same time, I want to learn from Quinchiam, you know, I want to look at this game and it's like, man, where, where can I get better at as well? You know, that's the type of player I am. I'm always looking to get better, man. I'm always looking to grow as a player. What's your last experience in the game?

1:00:37Julian Sand. Oh, yeah, he's going to be a great, but he's going to be a great quarterback, man. He's so, so accurate. And so, um, he's definitely, man, I know Coach Day is definitely going to get him right. Just, you know, um, container grow as a leader, container grow as a player. And so he's going to, he's going to be really good for high state. Uh, he's, uh, I know just the quarterback position. Um, I feel like, you know, the quarterbacks in the past, they've, they've definitely been vocal. And so I feel like that's something that they're definitely going to, um, ask Julian Sand as well. It's to be that vocal leader and lead, um, and lead to offense and lead to steam. Shoot, man, he has, he has a build like JK Dobbins. And, um, I kind of see them, you know, similar, similar to his inner game as well. And I know JK Dobbins, he was a great running back. Um, I feel like he's not talked about his, no, um, a lot, but man, his career here, you watch his highlights is, is great. I remember, um, before I recruit, before I committed here, I remember watching JK Dobbins highlights like every, every, um, one of his years

1:01:39here, like four or five times. And so man, he was such a great back. And, um, I feel like, you know, um, when I see JK Dobbins, when I see, um, James people, I see similarities to both of their games. I feel like they play the same. And so I appreciate you all. Yeah, I'll be going.

1:03:58Last year, I knew we're all so I just tacked Eric Dave really the same way. It's taking advantage very well. Physically, how different are you? Wake wise, body wise on that in the year. Um, I think I got a lot bigger. I'm like 240, you know, like 244 right now. Last year, I played it like 236 to 37. What does it feel like at 244? I feel like an almost a different machine out there. Yeah, like, what does it, what does it feel like to be running around out there like you are, but with more, uh, more back. I just feel like I'm like, like, like, more downhill, like stronger, like I'm taking all the bloods better. It's big. Yeah. Is it daunting? Uh, maybe that's not the correct term, but to think you're going to be playing much more than you did even last year. And you played quite a bit last year instead of what do you have to get straight in your head about being on the field that much more? Yeah. I just got to get ready to just play 30 more snaps. So, but are you, are you, how would you describe how much you're looking forward to it from an eight-stand point? Yeah, I'm looking forward to it.

1:05:00I'm ready for it. My, I'm ready for it. The text is open. It's a rematch. So, but it's not really two different teams. The better the last time you all played and stuff. How has that enhanced this camp for you and this team getting ready for the, we're an opener of that magnitude? Yeah, with an opener like that, we've been, um, we've been emphasizing it a lot. We know we got coming. So, we know we got to do, we've been prepared for it. I already just probably worked today. Um, I think Riley ready to play right now. He, he advanced freshmen like he ended, he in the book, he stood in like, he advanced and his measurements was crazy. Like he saw like, saw like two. Orbel, you said you're ready. What was that process like during last season? Could you feel yourself becoming more and more ready for whatever the team needed for you? Yeah, because that's pretty much what my role was. Just whenever I was needed, I had to step up. So, I feel like that's what built me into me being able to say I'm ready for this year. When you say ready, is it more a physical thing? Is it a mental thing? When I say ready, I think it's pretty much like everything physically,

1:06:04mentally, mostly. I think I'm there. A different piece that he wanted to share a Van Lass figure, that's possible. Oh, ask the one more time. How different is that responsibility? That should be that you just call that. If it was last year, you knew you were a homemaker. Oh, I feel like it's a, uh, it's a way bigger responsibility with me having to step up this year, but I kind of go about it the same way. Like last year, I was intentional with everything I did. I feel like this year is going to be the same thing. It's probably a little bit more. For somebody who's some reason, I'm sorry. It won't work? How's everybody working? Uh, I say, describe my game. I say, like when you think of me, you would think of like a, like a bullet, like a silver bullet. I don't really a bullet. I'm always on the ball. That's how I like to play and think. What do you do?

1:07:05No, I ain't got to be my nickname. But Oh, yeah, yeah. Um, think of fit me because I don't know. I just like the defense. I feel like we got, like you said, we got a lot of freedom and we're moving around a lot. A lot of the times is like, no, I don't know. I don't really not answer that. I don't even know if I say that because there's a lot of thinking going on, but it's like, I just like it's deep. I like how the pressure deep is. I like what you got going on. Now I wanted to much sad. I was kind of like happy for you. No, that's my dog. I'm kind of missing a little bit, but yeah, I'm happy for you.

1:08:08Well, don't think go ahead one last but coach days talked a lot about the guys who played some last year, but maybe weren't the starters and the hunger for that wasn't maybe your national championship. You guys will win your own. How much do you feel that as a guy who certainly contributed last year, but will be in this bigger role and along the summer year, your classmates? Yeah, I do feel like I did win a national championship, but like you said, my role wasn't same as how it's going to be this year. So yeah, I definitely want to go get another one, experience that feeling maybe on the field, a lot more place. Great. Oh, Bill, thank you very much. Thanks, I got a lot of questions. You need to offense compared to NFL. Especially with the way he uses receivers, how do you anticipate your role changing and how do you view the offense from a receiver perspective specifically? Yeah, I mean, I think he likes to really push the ball down the field. He likes to be balanced. He likes to give different looks to a difference. You know, we're going to not to try to get too much into it, but you know, we're going to use some motion, move some guys around and things of that

1:09:09nature. I think for myself, I feel comfortable playing any of the positions that is asked whether it's the slot, the outside positions and unique part about our offenses. I don't think necessarily you play the X or the Z because the pit on the formation of the hash, you can be the opposite. You can be the X, but then you're to the field now you're the Z. So you got to really learn the entire concept and know where you're out in the field, which I think makes everybody smarter players because you don't pigeonhole yourself, I just play X. You know, I'm only in this position. You get in two minutes, you're the Z. Now you got to know what to do. You may have the clear outrouter. You may have the backside dig. Like you got to know what you're doing. So I think he doesn't just say like we're going to do this offense. He's really trying to create an offense that hits our personnel really well. That field boundary thing. That's a thing in college, but it seems like it's more unique to clip. Is that something you're used to seeing? Another offense has been in the... Yeah, definitely. I mean, I think if I'm on the left hash,

1:10:09like technically I'm the X, you know, I'm in the boundary, but if we're on the right hash, I'm still on the left side. I'm really the Z in the concept because I'm to the field, I'm to the strength of the tie-down. So I've been in offenses like it's similar like that before. And, you know, I just think he... One thing I think that's really stood out is the compliments of our routes that we have so far. I feel like we have a chance to really run similar stems, but there's different routes off those stems and things like that, which I think for receiver like myself who you get, you know, a really good look at DBs and they study your film, they study your splits. Like having routes that look the same, but break off at different angles is extremely important because it feels like you have some versatility in your bag to go out with versus like, you got this hitch again, you're back side, like that's all you got, you know what I mean? So, yeah, he's just been a really good player, person to work with and he's been really communicated with the leaders and how we want this offense to look like in some of the ideas

1:11:11that we may have as well. So it's been a really cool transition. You talk about the transitions, you've heard offense in three years, probably your fourth and six years. Yeah. How do you not kind of build up some barriers? Yeah, man, I gotta do this again. Right. I think, you know, human nature is always a factor in whatever you do in life, but I think I try to make a conscious choice of coming in with a new year mentality each and every year. And I think it's easy because we've had so many changes and it's been great working with Marcus and Jaden and Jeff and Sam, all of everybody. Like it's been great with working with all the quarterbacks and I just have a mentality of not really being complacent. Like I try to really focus on the things that I can come back better at this year and I've been working my butt off to do that. So I think the easy thing and when I was younger, you're like, dang, like you just want that consistency. You know what I mean? Like you want that something you could depend on,

1:12:15but like life isn't, life isn't always like that. So I've been reinvigorated because of just the energy that DQ brings into our building each and every day and the coaches as well. Like it's fun competing, you know what I mean? And sometimes I could get lost in the grind, but I think the reason why you make it here at this level is because you fall in love with the competition of it. And I think the competition breathes the success because that is really where you, the iron, truly sharpens iron. So you know other guys are going to make plays, but when you get excited to go in there and know that the next day we're going to go right back after the defense. So for myself, I'm just looking forward to continue to grow with the quarterbacks that we have. I'm I mean, year six now, which is extreme blessing and leader, one of the leaders in our room. And I just try to take the bull by the horns with that. And so that's really been my focus and you know, I'm excited for another year. To us, it's looked like you're being more vocal on the sideline.

1:13:17So help young guys. Definitely. Something you decided this offseason? I think that's been a part of my maturation process as a leader. I've always seen myself as somebody that was a a leader by example. But from coaches and other teammates I've had over the years, guys like to hear what I have to say for whatever reason sometimes, you know. And I think the biggest thing where I've tried to figure out where I fit in with my vocal leadership is I never wanted to be like a dictator. You know what I mean? I never wanted to tell guys what to do or or be a yellow or things like that. Like when I say something, I wanted to have power. I wanted to have meaning. And I hope, you know, the guys would feel the same way if they were to ask them that question. Because I want to see all these guys when man, like it's hard to make it in this league and stay in a career. And so anyway, I could help the receivers, the DBs. I'm talking to some alignment. Johnny who's who's rehabbing his foot. You know what I mean? Like everybody has a role and everybody has a different story and path. And so if I could share what I've been through

1:14:17my testimony to help them or do things that kind of slow down the process, I'm going to try to do that because we need everybody from the rookies to the 10 year vets to make this thing work. So more so I try to speak to what I know and really those honest conversations that I try to have with guys where they know I'm coming from a good place. And I think I'm not the type of guy where I'm just going to talk at them. Like if they see something like I could take a coaching point from Luke McCaffrey. I could take a coaching point from Deami from Jahan from Marcus from anybody. You know, like I think that's what makes you a great player when you can really be coachable from anybody and not take it from a personal standpoint. Hi. Good. Going back to what you were saying about Cliff and how is he as a teacher in teaching all this? Yeah, I mean, I think he does a really great job of making things simple, first and foremost, he doesn't overcoach. And I think that's the

1:15:17trust that he has in our group and his coaches, our position coaches to fill in the details. So we'll have an install meeting and it'll be a good amount of time, but then our position coaches will have time and we'll make it specific to that position. And so then we'll come in and have a walkthrough. And then after that, we'll have another walkthrough. And so I don't think there's been a time where I've come out here and I'm kind of worried about what I got. You know what I mean? And when you get into certain offices, there could be so many details where you could be overwhelmed. And I think then it it forces it kind of separates guys in a sense that like one guy may study more than another guy. But when you have these these sessions that we have where we're having an installs in the morning, we're having two walkthroughs and then we're coming on the field and doing it. Like I think you notice a lot of guys are playing a lot faster and more confident because he's keeping it simple. But also he's very particular in what he's expecting, but it's not a lot. So there's not a pressure of to get it right, but at the same time you know it's expected of you and you know you're going to

1:16:20have the tools given to you to be successful out there on the field. And this is off season, just the totality of change from front office players coaches, the turf field. What does that have been like for you just to see what's going on? It's been fun. You know I think from Mr. Harris and the entire ownership group down to Adam Peters down to DQ down to Jada who he drafted and bringing in Marcus and Jeff and all those guys and down to leaders. We have on our team. I think it was extremely specific on the way they tried to build this thing going into this year. First having the right people bringing in leaders, bringing in guys who love to compete. First thing that DQ said when he came here was in his first meeting like if you love to compete, this is going to be the place for you. And I love it. You know what I mean? I love bags and going at it with the DBs every day. Like the little mundane stuff can seem a little boring, but that's I think that was where you make the gains during the off season where you're really focused on. Hey, I'm going to give all I got for this day and I'm going to get better and then I'm going to

1:17:24learn from the film and come back tomorrow and ready to do it again. And he also understands the benefits of having breaks. He's given us breaks. We've had weeks off here in the other week and compose ourselves, but then come back and give it all we got. You know what I mean? And when you got a coach that understands the physicality of an entire season where you guys do need breaks by the same time we're going to get after it, it makes it fun as a leader because you can take that to your room and be like, yo, we got these, we got this week. I mean that's extremely important, but we have this little break coming up where you're going to get your mind and your body and your soul right. So coming into this season, I'm really optimistic to go what we can be this year. And I think it started with the foundation that the ownership group and the entire staff has built. And now it's on myself as a leader to continue to hone that in into the locker room. But I think it's great because we have so many great leaders from all across the league who have won and we got Bobby Wagner in there. You know what I mean? I asked a Hall of Famers. So like, you know, being able to have kind of guys like that that you can

1:18:26lean on that can sometimes take over that leadership role where it doesn't fall on one person. I think it's extremely refreshing and knowing that everybody's on the same page and the message is the same allows you to go out there with confidence and always expect to know you. Terry, you seem to spend many of your off seasons learning about things beyond football, hobbies, what have you, did you do anything this whole season so far to hobbies or increase your knowledge of this the world around you? Let's see the question. Play a lot of golf. That day just keeps my competitive juices flowing. Planning the wedding. That's going well. And I mean, I've just been grinding like honestly, you know, I mean, I've been hungry this all season. Like, I started working out, you know, pretty early and you start to see guys like coming back and it's just fun to like to be here and compete and feel like everybody's on the same page, you know what I mean? Like, and so for me,

1:19:28I'm a grind every off season, but just this one just feels like it's the start of something, you know, new and special and the foundation of is extremely important and to be a part of that to have a hand in that, you know, it's an honor, you know, and I put a lot of expectation on myself to come out here and be the guy that I know I'm capable of and also like taking the next step and being somebody that our quarterbacks that can trust and believe in. So this all season was pretty simple for me. It was just really about, you know, working and grinding and getting better. He talked about Jayden before. If anything so far, I know we haven't seen everything, but in terms of his arm strength, the throws, he's making anything surprising so far about the types of his ability in that regard. Definitely. I think after the second or third crosser that he threw, I started telling the receivers like, hey, you gotta get your head around, you know what I mean? Because again, each quarterback throws the ball differently and sees the field differently. So sometimes on crossers, a lot of quarterbacks may like to see you cross the ball and get into that open zone

1:20:31over there if it's man flattened off. They like to see you get open. For him, he has a really good anticipation over the middle of the field where he can make those throws and give you a chance to catch and run. And he's really accountable too. Like we had a play today where he felt like he missed me and, you know, it's not a big deal at all. You know what I mean? Him and I could talk to those things and there's been a play that I've talked to him about. I could do a better job, but again, like that open that open form of communication from a rookie, I think is very rare. And I think it speaks to the confidence he knows who he is, but he's also not afraid to say when he's wrong. And he knows he needs room to improve. But his touch on the deep balls is amazing. You know, I love getting extra reps after practice with him. We're just catching the top end of a deep ball. As big for me, you know, I mean, I get to track the ball over my shoulder and as big for him to be able to get used to dropping the ball in the bucket. But he just naturally has an ability to throw the ball. He sees the windows really well. And now he's just, you know, continue to get adjusted to the speed in the past rush. I think he's these reps that he's getting are unbelievable during 11 on 11 because

1:21:35he's getting the field pain and Allen and DA and Cleveland Farrow. Like we got some dogs up there who are going to come after him. You know what I mean? And we got some great guys up front who are going to protect them. And so these reps, I feel like are even better than just 7 on 7. And 7 on 7, I think he could do in the sleep to be fair. Like he throws the ball really well. But when you get this 11 on 11, two-minute drill, you're putting them in game like situations. And I'm looking at him in his eye. I'm like, we play a real ball now. Like we we we playing. You know what I mean? And you just see no no anxiousness in his game and his demeanor, which is extremely exciting. And and then you know, he's extremely lighthearted and he's always smiling. So he's joking with lime and D line. He's just cool with everybody. And like I said, like for a rookie quarterback to come in like that where guys are gravitating to him and he's not afraid to be who he is. That's dope. I think he has a bright future for himself. The tough losses, the tough seasons can weigh on a player. You're entering the prime of your career. J.A. kind of mentioned it last year. All he cares about is winning. He wants to win now. Is there

1:22:37a sense of urgency? You obviously always want to win. Knowing that, you know, you're you're getting to the prime of your career. Like you want to win now. Yeah, I think that's a fair question. I think you know, you start to evaluate when you I'm in year six and you know how fast it goes. And I try not to put the cart before the horse were looking too far ahead by at the same time. You do want to win. You want to be a part of a winning culture and have a chance to win the Super Bowl and the playoffs and all those things. Like that's why we we do this personally. And I'm just excited with being a part of an organization in the environment where now like everybody's on the same page in the in the message is uniform and it speaks from the top down. And it reflects the guys that they're bringing in. You know, all the guys that they brought in are guys who are hungry, who are competitors, who not only fighting for spots, but we're going to help us win games. And when you're around environment like that, like that that makes you excited. It makes you hopeful. And you know, you don't know how it's going to turn out until we start playing

1:23:40games. But the foundation is extremely important. And I think this all season, we've really done a great job of building that they have. And then when a coach Quinn guy here building with this team. So I feel like we're going to be going into this off season really knowing we all got to do individually become ready for camp. But the message is clear to come back to camp ready to compete and and be ready to win. Thanks, Terry. Appreciate you guys. Yeah, we should. One of the funniest guys on the team right now is playing as much. So I just wanted to get like more experience under my belt. So I can know bring younger guys with me because I've been through a lot of the community. One of those younger guys we're seeing it out here. It's the first time I've heard all of your live series. What have you seen from well? Because kind of a question we all forgot about it because he was heard. Now he's running you know, almost a second man off the high. What have you seen?

1:24:44Well, it's a workhorse. He he goes stay quiet. He go work hard. And that's what I love about him. He focuses. He don't really talk much. He's going to get the job done. Do a job right. It rarely has any mistakes. What would be a successful season? A national championship. I'm reading when all the games we don't want to lose anything. We got a mindset that we can't be beat. We just got to go show it. It's definitely a difference. Everyone working harder. We noticed our last run. Most of us don't have any years after this. We got to go bigger and go home. We're not trying to go home. Finish big.

1:25:57What's the team that won the national championship last year? I'm saying we just work harder. That's kind of a coach makes a saying. Nobody cares. Work harder. When we played Georgia, it's the same thing. Last play. They went on the win in 90. We just got to get over that hump at the end of the season. I think we'll be fine. How frustrating is that? You're that close against the last two national titles. Of course it's frustrating. But you can't change the outcome. You can't really dwell on it. You just got to come back and work harder. Do things better than you did last year and hopefully the outcome will change. Is that as you get older, you kind of learn. I thought I was working hard and you always find out there's a little more you could have been doing? Yeah, definitely. That's what growing up is basically in college. I thought freshman year I was working as hard as I could but not look back at it. I really wasn't working hard at all compared to what I'm doing now. Just to learn anything. What do you need it to be to be your best?

1:26:59It is at 75. 80, 85. I mean, it's all on me. I think it's a little higher. I was just trying to be funny but I mean, it's all on me. I just got to run harder. Get the shape. I think I definitely can last. I was just, you know, we got to get the young guys to come along with us. We can't play 50 snaps of game. That's just too much on our bodies. Just everybody. Like online, we got to get those younger guys to play. You know, get that pieces on the D line and the O line and everywhere else so we can last at the long run. Yeah, I did unless we were like winning by like a line. I thought like there are no

1:28:01small means you know I can go sit down or something but we're playing them big games like, you know, Notre Dame too or North, those kind of games. Of course I want to be because I know I can contribute and I won't want to put that on anyone else when I know I can get the job done. Oh yeah, definitely. K-Mac is a K-Mac's animal. Y'all, you haven't really seen it yet but in practice he shows all the time. He's just, he's growing right now. He has a work ethic. He just has to get, you know, in the playbook and things like that. You guys are about the exact same size. Listen, you're both listening six three, you're three 27, he's three 26. Yeah, he's, I kind of look at him like my junior but you know K-Mac, he's going to be a great player. He's got to develop more and get in the playbook. So really a lot on you older guys, there's that large group of young guys and then there's the seniors in your back. Is that part of your task for this year to bring those guys along as well? Yeah, definitely. We got to be leaders. Like I said, we got to have them play this year. We can't just play all the snaps. They got to get in there and get some work and we got to get them right

1:29:02during the all season. So they can play and not just play. They want to like contribute, like, make plays, tackle sex. Yeah, there definitely some big dudes and they all work hard. I've only seen much of some like day two when I'm passing on but throughout the workouts they've been working hard, you know, they're determined to, I'd say that. It looks like they're ready to work with me. How important is this? It feels like there's a lot of great defenses that you have big athletic defense attackers who can eat up space but also move, you know, right? Is that the environment maybe for a great defense to have guys like you that have some balls but also a great team? I think that is definitely. I think if you look at the last couple of nice and championship winners, like, see my North, they got two good detacled two athletic detacles. Look at Georgia. Two athletic detacles. So I think that's

1:30:07definitely neat if you want to go on that big run and beat those big teams. What's Georgia? Jordan Davis and Dylan Carter. Let's miss again is Chris Jenkins. You understand it because you play it but I feel like some time I don't know, do people realize how important defense tackles are? A little bit more than they used to? I think so. I think they're starting to develop more and more of these like freakish detacles. Like in the combine, just now you see in like those guys, they're moving four to four, seven, eight, and things like that. So we'll see. And when you think about those freakish out there, how do you think you fit into that ball of that kind of player? You watch that and say, yeah, that's me. Yeah, definitely. I think I'm top notch when it comes to detacles but I don't want to get a big head but you know, watch it come on. I watch it do the drills. I have tape here. You're like looking like my film. So I think I'm up there with all the time.

1:31:07I think you become like a artist who comes to batting up passes the figure wags can't be things. When you're going to spring practice, you're not doing as much a weapon or a weapon. How do you work on that? Do you have like a goal one, Martin? I don't remember how many you have. I mean, as many as I can have, I think I have more than that. But I think they've encountered. I think they've encountered some of them and some of them were like just listed. So but I think we work on drills matching the hand. I think that's uh, goes big and uh, what we do is a D line, you know, just affecting the quarter bag is anywhere you can. It's just great for the defense. You know, just that little thing you cover in his eye, you know, he might throw a little bit to the left to our player. So, so it's something that you really, really have to work on. It's really good. It's one of the things that you maybe worked on the most. You can bring your time here because there are a few guys that I've seen. Oh, like, that past, you know, it takes a little bit and we don't have that. We don't have that sort of kind of expected person that you want to be.

1:32:09I think I just have like a like a eye for the ball kind of. I kind of just look at the quarter bag and just, I see him like load up. I just try to get in his ways and sometimes he's just those who take me. I mean, they get frustrated by, you know, we're a team, you know, we're just getting better. Yeah, a lot of a lot of different backs, man, they just learn to grow for them. I don't really have a top three, but I'll give you, I'll give you one. I would say, say, Juan Gibbs and I like McCaffrey. Although he was injured this year. I like McCaffrey. Best back in this drive. I lead out of the yard. That's y'all decision. Playing with Will Howard, what I'm going to remember most. We're a Howard man. He's just such a great lead, such a great leader, man. It's just like in moments

1:33:13where, you know, usually a lot of players they fold, man. He was just always calm and relaxed, man. He just the leader that he was, man, that's one thing I'm going to remember about him. Yeah, he's, he's going to be really good, man. He's on Coastal Lach. I think he got the transfer in as well from West Virginia. Just that one, two punch with them both as well. They're going to be really good backs. And so James people's man, he's smart the way that he goes about his business, man. He's mature. And so man, he's growing, you know, just as a person in as a player. And so man, yeah, definitely Ohio State, you know, that running back room is in great hands. Yeah, Coach Coach Heartline, man. He's full of energy, man. And he's creative as well. You know, I'm just learning from him as well. You know, I'm trying to run more outside the backfield. It was being able to learn from Coach Heartline. And so he's definitely creative at what he's, he does. And he brings a lot of energy to the team as well. And so I think they'll do really good.

1:34:23Just intensity, man. And since he did other playoffs, every game, man, it's like the intensity got, you know, higher and higher. And so, you know, being able, I know in the lead, it's the same thing. Even if it's not the playoffs, just every, every game and the intensity it keeps getting higher and higher. And so, yeah, you just, I know you got to bring it, you know, each and every day and come in and work, just like Ohio State, you know, I definitely feel like Ohio State, they definitely do a good job of preparing us for that. You know, I just remember even before going through this process, how I'll talk to a lot of players before then. And they told me a lot of just about how much Ohio State prepared them, you know, for the NFL. And so yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I know I took a couple of days off after the national championship. And then, shoot right after that, I'm writing sample Florida and I'm right to it. And so, yeah, I think where I trained, I trained at your birth performance. I think it's called the House of Athlete or

1:35:23the Compound now. They did a good job, man. They're just bringing us in and the way they went about training us, man. They did a really good job. The bucket near, you know, I haven't tamper, tamper. Nice. This is nice. It's a nice city, man. Really nice. The 40 to broad and avert. I'm trying to make my first visit awesome. Yeah. Yeah. No, man. It's really all about technique. And then it's about mindset as well. And so, I say, you know, it's for the love of my brother. It's for the love of Wil Howard. It's for the love of the receivers who I got on the perimeter. Just making sure, you know, first of all, my quarterback doesn't get sacked. And I tell Wil I think it was before the first game. I was like, I got your brother. It's, I said, man, I'm not going to let you get hit, you know, and so I don't know if I gave up a sack. I'm not sure that, but I know if I did, I haven't

1:36:26given up too many. And so, man, it's for the love of my brother's, though, man, making sure the ball get in their hands, you know, the guys on the outside and making sure they get fed. In my game, you can't really work on this, you know, in all season, I feel like it's more so, you know, you got to put the pads on. You got to go through some inside run, you know, maybe. I was really just continuing to run through tackles. And so that's, I feel like that's one of the areas in my game. You know, I want to continue to get better at it. I feel like I did a good job at that my senior year. And so I just want to continue to build on that. Yes, I did. Yes, I did. I did meet with New Orleans as well. I never got that comparison. Actually, I know I'm a Camera. Sure. Yeah, man, I've come here great, great back, man. Just what he does and those 101 matchups, he's dangerous, man, and he's so smooth. He's so smooth as well. I'm not going to like he smooth. Yeah. Inside zone from stack, being able to hit that

1:37:39thing downhill. And I'll say the next one is probably just an option route out of the backfield. You know, and man and man coverage, you're getting on that linebacker. And so. Yeah, I say the man the biggest thing is the way that he carries himself, man, and the way that man, he approaches the game. He comes in with the mindset, you know, he's going to work every single week, you know, every practice, you know, he's working hard, you know, even shoot it. I don't know, every good, I think he had a, every game was a good game for him, man. And so, but still, man, he always has the mentality to mindset that, you know, he's going to come in each and every day, he's going to continue to work and get better, man. And so he's definitely, man, he's going to be a special player, man. He really is. A lot of ups and downs, man, it's just how you respond to adversity. And I feel like that's

1:38:47something that God has definitely helped me to do better. It's just, I'm not having something to lean on now. You know, I remember before I met him, you know, going through those adversity, I had nothing to run to, you know, you can run to people, but they still can't, it's not too much, they can't truly help you. You know, I feel like, you know, I feel like the only person that can truly help you is your relationship with Jesus Christ. And so, being able to lean on him, you know, he gives you, in those moments where it's tough, you know, where it's low. And when you're behind the scenes and you're going through things that people don't know about, he gives you, he gives you that peace and comfort, you know, even in those moments, man, where it's so hard that you can't, you can't explain. It's like, man, I'm going through this, but like, how am I still filled with this internal joy? You know, how do I have so much peace in this situation? And so that's something that only Jesus Christ can give you. And so, which aspect could be to those other individuals that you want to follow and from being around power to heaven? Um, man, those guys have such a great mentality, man. Am I just really love their mentality,

1:39:53especially Q as well, you know, I talked about Will Howard, his leadership, but Quincham mentality, man, um, that boy just, yeah, that boy just gifted, you know, you see, you know, sometimes he put in a situation where he looked like, you know, he should have a negative five yards. And then as soon as you know it, you know, he that running through somebody, still forming somebody and shoot, it's a game to 10. And so, I think, yeah, man, I think it just like, he's just gifted, man, to be honest, he's just gifted, you know, he's, he's a big back, you know, he's strong. And so, um, you know, he's, he's able to do, he's able to do those things. And so, um, yeah, man, it's definitely, you know, I look at his game and I want to, you know, at the same time, I want to learn from Quincham, you know, I want to look at this game and it's like, man, where, where can I get better at as well? You know, that's the type of player I am. I'm always looking to get better, man, I'm always looking to grow as a player. Julian San, oh yeah, he's going to be a great, but he's going to be a great quarterback, man, he's so, so accurate. And so, um, he's definitely, man, I know Coach

1:40:56Dez is definitely going to get him right. Just, you know, um, container grow as a leader, container grow as a player. And so, he's going to, he's going to be really good for high state. Uh, he's, I know just the quarterback position. Um, I feel like, you know, the quarterbacks in the past, they've, they've definitely been vocal. And so, I feel like that's something that they're definitely going to, um, ask Julian San as well. It's to be that vocal leader and lead, um, and lead to offensive lead to steam. Shoot, man, he has, he has a build like JK Dobbins. And, um, I kind of see them, you know, similar, similarities in their game as well. And I know JK Dobbins, he was a great running back. I feel like he's not talked about his, no, um, a lot, but man, his career here, you watch his highlights is, is great. I remember, um, before I recruit, before I committed here, I remember watching JK Dobbins highlights like every, every, um, one of his years here, like four or five times. And so, man, he was such a great back. And, um, I feel like, you know, um, when I see JK Dobbins,

1:41:57when I see, um, James people, I see similarities to both of their games. I feel like they play the same. And so, appreciate you all. Yeah, I have a good one.

1:43:52Yeah. Well, I got coming in last round to the role. So I just tacked Eric Dave, really the same way. He's taking the van very rough physically. How different are you? Wait, why is body wise on that? Oh, I think I got a lot bigger. I'm like 240, I'm like 240, 4 right now. Last year, I played it like 236, 237. Yeah. What does it feel like to be running around out there like you are with more, more, back? I just feel like I'm like, like, like more downhill, like stronger, like I'm taking all the blocks better. It's a big, yeah. Is it daunting? Uh, maybe that's not the correct term, but to think you're going to be playing much more than you did even last year. And you played quite a

1:44:55bit last year and stuff. What do you have to get straight in your head about being on the field that much more? I just got to get ready to just play 30 more snaps. So, but are you, are you, how would you describe how much you're looking forward to it from an 8 stand point? Yeah, I'm looking forward to it. I'm ready for it. My, I'm ready for it. The Texas opener, it's a rematch. But it's not really two different teams compared to the last time you all played and stuff. How has that enhanced this camp for you and this team getting ready for the, we're an opener of that magnitude? Yeah, we're the opener like that. We've been, um, we've been emphasizing it a lot. We know we got coming. So we know we got to do, we've been prepared for it. I already just probably worked today. I think Riley ready to play right now. He he advanced freshman like he ended up here in the book. He studied in like he advanced and his measurements was crazy like he saw like the saw line to him. I feel like you said you're ready. What was that process like during last season? Could you feel yourself becoming more and more ready

1:45:57for whatever the team needed for you? Yeah, because that's pretty much what my role was. Just whenever I was needed, I had to step up. So I feel like that's what built me into me being able to say I'm ready for this year. When you say ready, is it more a physical thing? Is it a mental thing? When I say ready, I think it's pretty much like everything physically, mentally, mostly. I think I'm there. A different thing that you want to do here at the analyze. Oh, I asked that one more time. How different is that responsibility? I feel like it's a way bigger responsibility with me having to step up this year, but I kind of go about it the same way. Like last year, I was intentional with everything I did. I feel like this year it's going to be the same thing. It's probably a little bit more. For somebody who's not ready for this year, I was just kidding. It won't work? How's everybody working?

1:46:59I say, describe my game. I say, like when you think of me, you would think of like a like a bullet, like a silver bullet. I don't really a bullet. I'm always on the ball. That's how I like to play a thing. I think that's what you really want to embody that. No, I ain't got to be my nickname, but I'm not saying that the nickname is that so. Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. I think it fit me because I just like the defense. I feel like we got, like you said, we got a lot of freedom and we're moving around a lot a lot of the terms is like, you know, I don't know. I don't really know how to answer that. That's okay. Does it? You can go on your instincts a little bit more, maybe? That's not so thinking of too much. I don't even know if I say that because there's a lot of thinking going on, but it's like, I just like his defense. I like how the three are different. I like what he got going on.

1:48:02What was it sad when CJ left the room? Uh, now I wanted to much sad. I was kind of like happy for him. Like, yeah, that's what you want. All right. No, that's my dog. I'm going to say yeah. Kind of missing a little bit, but yeah, I'm happy for him. All right. Well, don't thank you. Go ahead. One last question. Coach Daze talked a lot about the guys who played some last year, but maybe weren't the starters and the hunger for, you know, that wasn't maybe your national championship. You guys know when you're out. How much do you feel that is a guy who certainly contributed last year, but will be in this bigger role and along the summer year. Your classmates? Yeah, I do feel like, um, yeah, I do feel like I did win a national championship, but like you said, my role wasn't same as how's going to be this year. So yeah, I definitely want to go get another one experienced that like feeling with me, be on the field, a lot more place. Great. Oh, Bill, thank you very much. So I feel like we kind of have a lot of leaders on the D line at the D in position, so we kind of all kind of just count off each other.

1:49:16Um, it's really competitive and we love it. We all competitive people, we all love to fish each other and I feel like the springing the best side of all is. I feel like we're all just kind of bouncing off each other and seeing what one person does and we kind of better than the art toolbox and we all kind of just kind of built one great thing. So I definitely didn't in high school. I was full back and a little bit of tidied in, so I feel like it kind of saw what I could do there in Coach Wilson, honestly. You left watching it too before you left and I feel like you playing that seed in Coach Day's head and Coach Day kind of just went for it and tried to do the best I could to do it. Does that make Chid doing now? Do you need anything to experience? New playbook, I did not know you haven't got that far. I like to think myself as a football player. I can really play any position on the field. You need

1:50:17me to just give me a weaker two to learn it and kind of perfect it and try to do my best for you. Kit Jack, you're the same thing. Oh yeah. Well, don't laugh. Graphically, that's why. Kit is talking to Coach Johnson on Tuesday about some of the conversations and sort of sought you and got out to have some conversations after JT and Jack decided to come back. Just we're going to win into those real perspectives and how did that help you maybe get the right mindset I guess a million years from. I'm definitely kind of seeing it all the way through. I feel like people kind of just see what happened and they don't know everything that goes into it. How long the season is now. What you got to do to prepare for and what to happen in all that time from here to to this. So I feel like we definitely just coached in me kind of connected and we kind of just talks man-to-man and he kind of just sent it straight to me and I feel like we kind of both are pretty honest and we know we're making it. We're making each other better every day and we got the four best games, five best games honestly and coach football and we're going to be one of the best D-Lines and coach football. How do you feel like a better player today at any more

1:51:18again this year? I feel like I've taken big steps in my roles of just being responsible and being more of a leader and kind of stepping up and taking a step to kind of get out there more on the team and kind of bring people in and I feel like I'm kind of helping out more. How do you record a head-around in the past? Does that sound? I mean it sounds bizarre but I mean the season goes by so fast already so when you're kind of like week 10 and you're like wow it's already week 10 so now it's kind of getting more time to kind of enjoy it and kind of save for it because I'm already here for it. You're all fun. You're like I'm fresh with some ice crazy. But you don't want to spend all your powder in the first month of the year right now. There is a not pace yourself that but I mean there's a mindset. Yeah definitely definitely gonna have to have the mental stability to handle all those weeks and all those practices. How much has Larry talked to you guys about? Last question right here. 2016, 2017, 4 NFL 2 Finch Awards all in semi-intention. How much does he talk to that man?

1:52:19I mean he doesn't have to talk about it. We know about it. We've seen it every day. We watch the film. We see them all working together. We know what it could be. We know we could become so we know we we're right at the same, we're at the right place at the right time and God wanted us to be here and he knew we wanted us all to come together and kind of play together and be able to bounce off and just perfect our craft together and I feel like we all are just great individuals and we come together. It's something special. We plan as much so I just wanted to get like more experience under my belt so I can know bring younger guys with me because I've been going on. One of those younger guys we're seeing it like it's the first time it's heard all your last year's What have you seen from Will? I don't know if I should have real forgot about it because he was heard of how he's running you know almost a second man out behind you and Ty. What have you seen Will's a workhorse. He goes stay quiet. He's going to work hard and that's what I love about him. He focuses. He don't really talk much. He's going to get the job done. Do a job right. He rarely has any mistakes. What it would be a successful season? A national championship?

1:53:23I'm reading when all the games we want to lose anything. We got a mindset that we can't be beat and we just got to go show it. It's definitely a difference. Everyone working harder. We noticed our last run. I mean most of us don't have any years after this so we got to go go bigger. Go home then. We're not trying to go home. Finish big. We know what you guys think of Michigan but when you look at what they did they won the national championship and you guys took them down to the final minute right you know what I mean I mean you you were right there something goes a little different you guys could have won that game against them. Does that tell you anything about like that hey you guys want to win a national championship but you played to the 59th minute with the team that won the national championship last year like you're that close. So I'm saying we just

1:54:25like work harder that's kind of coach makes of saying you know nobody cares just work harder like those you know one plate Georgia is the same thing. Last last play you know they went on the win the 90s so we just got to get over that hump at the end of the season I think we'll be fine. How frustrating is that you're that close against the last two national title? Uh of course as you know it's frustrating but you can't change the outcome you can't really do other one uh dwell on it you just gotta you know come back and work harder do things better than you did last year and hopefully the outcome will change. As soon as you get older you kind of learn and I thought that was working hard and you always find out there's a little more than you could have been doing. Yeah definitely I mean that's how that's what growing up is basically in college. I thought French Mira was working as hard as I could but now I look back at it I really wasn't working hard at all compared to what I'm doing now so just to learn anything. What do you need it to be to be your best? Uh 80 85 I mean I can it's all on me I just

1:55:29I think it's a little higher I was just trying to be funny but I mean it's all on me I just got to run harder. Yeah the shape. It's the idea of the potential. I think I think I definitely can lie as I was just you know we got to get the young guys to come along with as we can't play 50 snaps again that's just too much on our bodies uh just everybody like online D-line we got to get those younger guys to play you know get that pieces on the D-line and online and everywhere else so we can last that long run. Speaking of the top life plan and then snap it. Did you like playing that new snap again last year? I don't know if any of us were really expected to play that next time. Uh yeah I did unless we were like winning by like a line. Uh I thought like there are no moments you know I can go sit down or something but we're playing them big games like you know Notre Dame too or North those kind of games. Of course I want to be because I know I can contribute and I won't want to put that on

1:56:34anyone else when I know I can get the job done. It stands out about Kevin McDonald and you got the Oh yeah definitely. K-Mac is a K-Mac's animal. Y'all you haven't really seen it yet but in practice he shows it all the time. He's just he's growing right now. He has to work I think he just has to get you know in a playbook and things like that. You guys are about the exact same size. Listen you're both listen to six three you're three twenty seven he's three twenty six. Yeah he's I kind of look at him like my my junior but you know K-Mac he's going to be a great player he's got to develop more and getting a playbook. So really a lot on you older guys there's that large group of young guys and then there's the seniors in your back is that part of your task for this year to bring those guys along as well. Yeah definitely we got to be leaders um like I say we've got to have them play this year we can't just play all the snaps they got to get in there and get some work and we got to get them right during the all season so they can play and not just play they want to like contribute like make plays tackles sex.

1:57:44Yeah that definitely some big dudes um and they all work hard I've only seen much of something day two when I'm passing on but throughout the workouts they've been working hard you know they they're determined and it looks like they're ready to work. I think that is definitely I think if you look at the last uh a couple of nice and championship winners uh like see my North they didn't know they got two good uh detaco two athletic detacles look at Georgia two athletic detacles so I think that's definitely neat if you want to go on that big run and beat those big teams. If you think about this they're almost defined by the defense attack. It's like what's Georgia? Jordan Davis and Janet Carter and what's Michigan is Chris Jenkins.

1:58:45Couple more questions for you guys. How do you understand it because you play it but I feel like some time I don't know are people realizing how important defense tackles are a little bit more than they used to? I think so uh I think they're starting to develop to develop more and more of these like freakiest detacles. Yeah like in the combine just now you see in like those guys they're moving four to four seven eights and things like that so we'll see. And when you think it when you think about the freakish attack how do you think you fit into that mold of that kind of player? You watch that and say yeah that's me. Oh yeah definitely I think I'm top notch when it comes to detacles but I don't want to you know get a big head but you know I watch it come on I watch it do the drills. I have tape here you like you're looking like my film so I think I'm up there with all those things. Do you become like a artist who comes and bad guys? The thing the way I get your things. I mean when you're going to bring practice you're not doing as much a weapon or a weapon. I don't know how to do that. How do you work on that?

1:59:45Do you have like a goal or mine? I don't remember how many I've last year but you have a goal or mine? How many people do you want to have? I mean as many as I can have I think I have more than that but I think he said it on me. I think maybe it counts some of them and it's some of them where I like just missed it so but I think we work on drills matching the hand I think that's uh goes big and uh what we do is a D line you know just affecting the quarterfegges anyway you can it's just great for the defense you know just that little thing covered is I you know he might throw it a little bit to the left to our player so so it's something that you really really have to work on. You just throw that with what you do in the past. It's very that's one of the things that you maybe worked on the most. It's really your time here because there are a few guys that I've seen like oh that pass through the back down. We don't have to ask this trial. I don't know if we're kind of kind of expected for it. I think I just have like a like a eye for the ball kind of I kind of just look at the quarterback and just I see him like load up I just try to get in his ways and sometimes he just throws it to me.

2:00:47I mean they get frustrated but you know we're a team you know we're just getting better. I should a lot of a lot of different backs man and just learn and grow for them. You got to pick your top three backs and you have a goal right now. One two two. Uh I don't really have a top three but I'll give you I'll give you one. I would say say Juan Gibbs and I like McCaffrey. Although he was injured this year I like McCaffrey. I appreciate it. Who's the best back in this drive? Best back in this drive. I lead out of the yard that's y'all that's y'all decision. Playing with Will Howard when I'm going to remember most. We're a Howard man he's just such a great lead such a great leader man. It's just like in moments where you know usually a lot of players they fold man he was just always calm and relaxed man he just the leader that he was man that's one thing I'm going to remember about him.

2:01:48Yeah he's he's going to be really good man. He's um coach lock. I think he got the transfer in as well from West Virginia just that one two punch with them both as well they're going to be really good backs and so James people's man he's smart the way that he goes about his business man he's mature and so man he's growing you know just as a person in as a player and so man yeah definitely Ohio State you know that running back room is in great hand. Yeah coach coach hard line man he's full of energy man and he's creative as well you know I'm just learning from him as well you know I'm trying to run more outside the backfield was being able to learn from coach hard line and so he's definitely creative at what he's he does and he brings a lot of energy to the team as well and so I think that would do really good. What's your intensity man? Just intensity man and intensity of the playoffs um every game man it's like the intensity got

2:02:51you know higher and higher and so you know being able I know in the lead it's the same thing even if it's not the playoffs just every every game and intensity it keeps getting higher and higher and so yeah you just I know you got to bring it you know each and every day and come in and work just like Ohio State you know I definitely feel like Ohio State they definitely do a good job of preparing us for that you know I just remember even before going through this process how I'll talk to a lot of players um before then and they told me a lot of just about how much Ohio State prepared them you know for the NFL and so yeah yeah yeah I know I took a couple days off after the um national championship and then shoot right after that I'm right in right in Tampa Florida and I'm right to it and so um yeah I think while trained I trained that um your morph performance um I think it's called the House of Athlete or the compound now um they did they did a good job man it just um bringing us in and the way they went about training us man they were they did a really good

2:03:53job the bucket in the airs no I haven't Tampa Tampa nice this is nice this is a nice city man really nice uh the 40 to broad and avert yeah yeah yeah no man uh it's really all about technique and then it's about mine said as well and so um I say you know it's for the love of my brother it's for the love of will highway it's for the love of the receivers who I got on the perimeter just making sure you know um first of all my quarterback doesn't get sacked um and I I told will I think it was before the first game I was like I got your brother it's uh I said man I'm not gonna let you get hit you know um and so I don't know if I don't know if I gave up a sack I'm not sure that um but I know if I did I haven't given up too many and so man it's for the love of my brother's though man making sure the the ball get in their hands you know the guys on the outside and making sure they get fed

2:04:57you had to hit the practice field later today what is something you'd be working on right now in my game uh you can't really work on this you know in all season I feel like it's more so you know you got to put the pads on you got to go through some inside run you know maybe uh it's really just continuing run through tackles and so that's I feel like that's one of the areas in my game you know I want to continue to get better I feel like I did a good job of that my senior and so I just want to continue to build on that yes I did yes I did uh I did meet with um New Orleans as well um I never got that comparison actually um I know I have a Camera shoe yeah man I have a Camera great great back man um just what he does and knows 101 matchups he's dangerous man and he's so smooth he's so smooth as well I'm not going like he's smooth yeah um inside zone from stack being able to hit that dang downhill and I say

2:06:04the next one it's probably just an option route out of the backfield you know and man and man coverage you're getting on that linebacker and so yeah I say to man the biggest thing is the way that he carries himself man in the way that man um he approaches the game he comes in with the mindset you know he's going to work every single week you know every practice you know he's working hard you know um even shoot it I don't know every good I think he had every game was a good game for him man and so but still man he always has the mentality the mindset that you know he's going to come in each and every day he's going to continue to work and get better man and so he's definitely man he's going to be a special player man he really is man a lot of ups and downs man it's just how you respond to adversity

2:07:09and I feel like that's something that God has definitely helped me to do better is this um and I have something to lean on now you know I remember before I met him you know going through those adversity I had nothing to run to you know you can run to people but they still can't it's not too much they can't truly help you you know I feel like you know I feel like the only person that can truly help you is your relationship with Jesus Christ and so being able to lean on him you know he gives you in those moments where it's tough you know where it's low and um when you're behind the scenes and you're going through things that people don't know about um he gives you he gives you that peace and comfort you know um even in those moments man where it's so hard that you can't you can't explain it's like man I'm going through this but like how am I still filled with this internal joy you know how do I have so much peace in this situation and so that's something that only Jesus Christ can give you and so you know how are you

2:08:11man eight those guys have such a great mentality man I might just really love their mentality especially um Q as well you know I talked about will how are his leadership but Quinch I'm mentality man um that boy just yeah that boy just gifted you know you see you know sometimes he put in a situation where he looked like you know he should have a negative five yards then as soon as you know it you know he that running through somebody step on him somebody and shoot it's a game to 10 it's uh I think yeah man I think it's just like he's just gifted man to be honest he's just gifted you know he's he's a big back you know he's strong and so um you know he's he's able to do he's able to do those things and so um yeah man it's definitely you know I look at his game and I want to you know at the same time I want to learn from Quinch time you know I want to look at this game is like man where where can I get better at as well you know that's the type of player I am I'm always looking to get better man I'm always looking to grow as a player

2:09:12Julian San oh yeah he's gonna be a great but he's gonna be a great quarterback man he's so so accurate and so um he's definitely man I know Coach Dez definitely going to get him right just you know um continue to grow as a leader continue to grow as a player and so he's going to he's gonna be really good for high state uh he's uh I know just the quarterback position um I feel like you know the quarterbacks in the past they've they've definitely been vocal and so I feel like that's something that they're definitely going to um ask Julian San as well it's to be that vocal leader and lead the um and lead the offensive lead to steam right next track shoot man he has he has a build like JK Dobbins and um I kind of see them you know similar similarities in their game as well and I know JK Dobbins he was a great running back um I feel like he's not talked about his none um a lot but man his career here you watch his highlights is is great I remember um before I recruit before I committee here I remember watching JK Dobbins highlights like every every um one of his years here like four or five times and so man he

2:10:15was such a great back and um I feel like you know um when I see JK Dobbins when I see um James people I see similarities to both of their games I feel like they play the same and so I appreciate you all yeah I'll be going

2:12:11yeah well I got coming in last year I knew the role so I just attacked Eric Dave really the same way it's technically very rare physically how different are you weight wise body wise on that from the year ago oh I think I got a lot bigger I'm like 240 you know like 244 right now last year I played it like 236 to 37 what does it feel like a 244 or a belly you feel like an almost a different machine out there yeah like what does it what does it feel like to be running around out there like you are but with more more back I just feel like I'm like like like like more downhill like stronger like I'm taking all blocks better it's a big yeah is it don't think uh

2:13:12maybe that's not the correct term but to think you're going to be playing much more than you did even last year and you played quite a bit last year instead of what do you have to get straight in your head about being on the field that much more this is gotta get ready to just play there are even more snaps so but are you are you how would you describe how much you're looking forward to it from an 8th standpoint yeah I'm looking forward to it I'm ready for it my I'm ready for the Texas opener it's a rematch so to speak but it's not really two different teams comparing the ones time y'all played and stuff how has that enhanced this camp for you and this team getting ready for the where an opener of that magnitude yeah with an opener like that we've been we've been emphasizing in a lot and we know we got coming so we know we got to do we've been prepared for it how are you guys probably working today I think Riley ready to play right now he he advanced freshman like he in the he in the book he stood in like he advanced and his measurements crazy like he saw like saw like so I told you said you're ready like you know you're ready what was that

2:14:14process like during last season could you feel yourself becoming more and more ready and so wherever the team needed to be yeah because that's pretty much what my role was just whenever I was needed I had to step up so I feel like that's what built me into me being able to say I'm ready for this year when you say ready is it more a physical thing is it a mental thing when I say ready I think it's pretty much like everything physically mentally mostly I think I'm there a different is that feeling this year's am I asked the one more time how different is that I feel like it's a it's a way bigger responsibility with me having to step up this year but I kind of go about it the same way like last year I was attention over everything I did I feel like this year it's gonna be the same thing it's probably a little bit more and what work

2:15:20I say describe like now I say like when you think of me you think of like a like a bully like a silver bullet but I'm really a bully I'm always on the ball that's how I like to play and think no I ain't got to be my nickname but oh yeah yeah yeah yeah and how it's free I mean how does that fit you and what are you doing about playing in that kind of stuff oh think it fit me because I don't know I just like the defense I feel like we got like you said we got a lot of freedom and we're moving around a lot a lot of the terms is like no I don't know I don't really not answer that that's okay does it you can go on your instincts a little bit more baby and it's not so thinking of too much I don't even know if I say that because there's a lot of thinking going on but it's like I just

2:16:22like it's defense I like how it's pretty different I like what you got going on uh now I want to much sad I was kind of like happy for you like yeah that's what you want no that's my dog so yeah kind of missing me a little bit but yeah I'm happy for you though oh well thank you go ahead one last but coach days talked a lot about the guys who played some last year but maybe weren't the starters and the hunger for that wasn't maybe your national championship you guys know when you're out yeah how much do you feel that as a guy who certainly contributed last year but will be in this bigger role and along with some of your classmates yeah I do feel like um yeah I do feel like I did win the nati last year but like you said my role wasn't same as how's my beat is here so yeah I definitely want to want to go get another one experienced that like feeling maybe on the field a lot more place championship in Nican you know before and everything like that and also

2:17:23to get your your teeth knocked in you know first game and you know can't have that happen because I don't know you know really doesn't mean anything and so just the constant mindset to continually get better but on the forefront of my mind and forefront of anyone here you can ask yeah yeah yeah I know we we look at the class sets every now and then I'd be like oh man they're gone they're gone but no it's been it's been good I mean the guys who are still here I'm as I have definitely kind of bonded together pretty good so yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah I mean you know Mark came in the other day is like that class 12 one best class ever and like yes sure okay you know I can't really can't really even you know just sitting to that you know I don't have much left but um uh yeah I mean to do what we can and do what we can for this team has been really important for all of us and I think um us now realizing where the veterans you know like

2:18:28with all guys not in the group has been um kind of strange at least to begin with you know because you go from um all those guys you like Donnie and Josh and those guys and all of a sudden it's Sunday we have a team meeting after the um like the celebration the shoe and all of a sudden the next day there's gone and you know it's it's just very different so I think us being able to step up as you know leaders and as as vets to help bring out you know along the team our units and this program has been really important. What are you doing overall two more questions just to try um um yeah yeah someone who went through that what have you been impressed by no it could spend doing really well I mean I could go in he goes to work um he's extremely athletic extremely flexible um you know he's a young kid obviously he's a lot of a lot of development a a lot of these little adversity all of us do.

2:19:30But I think he's going through that right now, but he's been coming out on the better end of it so far and excited to see what he can do because he's very impressive at this young stage. So it's easier overall level of excitement just to be back with the rest of this interior off into the line, when you guys have it, so just get it to back. Yeah, extremely excited. I mean, trying to just build that culture back up again, like what we had last year. I'm trying to do a little stuff here and there, I know I think we're going to Ray Race, a barbecue, I think tomorrow. So shout out Ray Race, but yeah, just trying to get that brotherhood back, get that oblock spirit back. Sure it's coming soon, hopefully. But just to kind of get those, not those same faces, but those same kind of mindsets back and our group is important right now. And it's been fun to meet new guys from different backgrounds and stuff like that. And try to figure out how to build that and mend that together. It's been pretty cool. Now as you are one of the most experienced veterans

2:20:31on this team, how much do you feel like you have to be a leader for the students here? Yeah, for sure. I mean, I think that comes, it's obviously, I don't feel like it's natural to anyone to immediately step up and that's something I've been working on every day and talking to God about. But I obviously understand that and that's something I want to continue to work on. I want to be able to be a guy that people can fall back on and like Coach was saying before, like we're going to have highs in those, but the great players, the ones we can set our clocks to. And I kind of want, that's my goal is to be one of those people that you can do that. And I think for especially a very new set of eyes in the Woody, not only coaches but players, I think it's very important to kind of keep that steady mindset. And I think for me, learning how to be a leader has been important just to not be too hard on myself, but also not let myself kind of slack off in some departments to try to keep steady. Just your story itself though, is testament

2:21:32of what it means to like for perseverance and stuff too though, right, Carson? You know, that's sort of, I have to stand up from somebody to say that, right? I mean, just, what do you think you've shown more than anything else in every card? Yeah, I mean, I've been blessed, you know, I've been blessed with a lot of adversity. I think that's definitely made me better on the back end. And you know, Coach Dei always talks about it and you don't, you know, great leaders aren't, you know, they can show it, but you know, a lot of people can show it. A lot of people can just talk about it, but to be about it is important. And I think to be enough, went through a lot of that adversity, I went through a lot of that stuff and my testament, you know, has been written in an interesting way. But I think for me to take that next step is really important for not only for this team, but for myself personally. Questions to be seen. Yeah, he's been doing great. I mean, he came in big, freaking strong. He's fun to be in the weight room with. He's kind of quiet. Like that's kind of my first impression on him,

2:22:33but he's actually pretty funny, dude. He and his dad come over and they kind of joke around. So he's been doing a great job, or he came talk, he's been doing a great job for his size. He has like freaky athletic feet, like I watched him do the ladders and that's a lot of massive overrun on those things, you know, doing the little icky shuffle, but I mean, he was killing it. And so he's been doing a great job. I can't wait to see how he kind of continues to develop throughout this summer and throughout this fall camp. First thing I asked you, I asked why I'm not that good. What it all has to be. To earn that. Yeah, Piggy has been doing great. I mean, he stepped up. Piggy, yeah, everyone refers to him as Piggy. It was his username one time. Nice, everyone's Piggy. But anyway, Pig's been doing great. He's been able to step up and kind of bring around along those younger guys. You know, everyone's kind of trying to figure out their new roles. And I think he's been a big body guy that he catched by can run between the tacos. His feet are quicker than what you think for a big guy. They have really good feet and good balance.

2:23:34So that's what makes him good. That's what I saw. Is that a comment for a bigger back? Like in the title, is it a presentility? Yeah. Right. I think that's probably a good way to bring back some on the tight end back. Well, tight end back ground. I don't know many with that type of back ground. But when he's high school, they try to play as an H back. Well, really good play. What are you looking at the portal for running back? So we want to try to recruit running backs. Does it matter to you if you have two different styles of running backs? Maybe one guy can do certain things better. One guy can do certain things. Or is it, you'll just say the best running back. You can find it. Do you want to have different styles? Yeah, I want different styles. You're going to try to take the same thing. You're going to take the same thing. You're going to take guys with different strengths. Whether they're big guys, small guys, past catchers, in between the type of runners. I don't know. I don't want to take the same thing. They're all different. Different backs. And you guys have built a wheel and clinch on you a lot of them. They're a slower red zone story. You guys actually are really in the corner. Was it important to find the back that has just sized?

2:24:35Like CJ has the ultimate weapon. And also, you know, I have my own opinion on the size they've been becoming the greatest. I had Jordan James out of the world. And he's my red zone running show. Yard line is a freshman. And probably way to 2, 10, 12, five, which is not very big. But they ain't got nothing to do with me. Some guys got a nose sticking about his own. And he played with a lot of aggression down here running. And that could be CJ. That could be James. Or what could be the freshman, though, Jackson? It's just who has a nose for getting his own. But that's who I'm going to go with. You don't have to be 62. No, just because you're being there, I'm making a pass. We need to get, obviously, you know, freshman running back coming in, and blowing it there here. But what do you need to see from a freshman to feel comfortable with that playing? In the first thing, will they own the ball? Will they do their little small detail,

2:25:35take care of the ball? The second thing will be how good they know when a pass ball. Because it's the hardest thing for high school, back because they're not really sure in high school. You have to understand the pass ball. But all their falls are he. So like they say, I'm in a person here, so that's why I need to see first, and everything, Jackson. I will understand to be the same. I can't be better than you need to be. Do you feel comfortable with, with Bowen, and Isaiah, where they're at, or at least where their time lives? Yeah, I think they wouldn't find. I can't say I tell all the young guys, he's a marathon, that was fun. The first day, first, you've been an earner, spot on specialty. You earn spot on specialty, then you earn the right to be a book I'll be. So they get that down to field. So I think they're training the right way. It's your first practice? Like it wasn't merit, some to build off for. I couldn't stop the work on it. Yeah, you better try now. Yeah, I'll see. I'll see. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

2:26:36Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Long day. I've just seen some of the younger guys in your room develop thinking about like, Etrick Houston is coming in this year, seeing him working with you guys. Joshua, we've been making it. I'm seeing you coming. I feel like they're definitely picking up quick. I mean, I was in their shoes one time, and I had Zach Harrison, and Javonte, and Tyler Friedell, and Frederick Mase. I thought I was trying to be one of those peers that they were for me, and kind of just giving them the steps to get there. And I feel like they're definitely picking up quick. And they definitely need to be one of the great Russian. So we got Joshua, so I can talk about it. JT and Jack probably need it. It's on their way. They're great. Same thing as some of the opportunities for me. They're a lot of people. Is there a difference in the work going that you've been getting through the Apple Jam putting the last couple? I feel like all the camps I've definitely gotten a big course learned, and I love that. So I asked Coach J4, and I love getting more reps, because I just like protecting my craft. So I mean, some people may not need it, some other people needed it, but I mean, it's like you

2:27:36have me reps like you have. What do you think about that course learning? So what do I mean? I mean, for me, it's always just kind of getting my little details perfectly, like my steps, my footing, kind of just affecting my toolbox, and what we call it, and my craft, and just trying to be a second whenever I get put in some kind of difference. What do you think about the biggest things you've done? What do you think about that? Do you have a good one? Do you see what I'm going to say about any of the audience? Yeah, I'm definitely just getting stronger faster, everything all the above. But one of my big things is being a leader, and kind of just not trying to look still look up to Jack and JT, and kind of have my own kind of leadership and be able to bring people into. So I feel like I kind of have a lot of leaders on the D line and at the D in position. So we kind of all kind of just count off the children and others. There have been a tough turn. So we do these a good stuff. We'll just open up these guys, playing with them, and we'll be right in the feet on the field, and then just start getting them out. And try to keep them as good as we like. So you need to do these guys. How's that position going to be?

2:28:36I'm so competitive, and we love it. We all competitive people, we all love to fish each other. And that's really the thing that bests out of all of this. We're all just kind of bouncing off each other and seeing what one person does, and we kind of build it into our actual box, and we all kind of just kind of build one great thing. Do you remember when last year, you got to get the shot of the full back in the corner? And did they approach you with that idea and two coached them? I mean, how did they come about? Because you're a good checksier sloppy. You get to test that. So I definitely did it in high school. I was pulled back and a little bit of tidied in. So I feel like it kind of saw what I could do there in Coach Wilson, honestly. He loved watching it too before he left. And I feel like he planned that seed and coach day's head and coach day kind of just went for it, and I tried to do the best I could to do it. Executive chin wing now. I mean, you can do anything in the screen. New playbook. I did not know you haven't got that far. Yeah, good, good. And how tough is that to you? But yeah, look at that. I like to think myself as a football player. I can really play any position on the field.

2:29:37You need me to just give me a weaker two to learn it and kind of perfect it, and I'll try to do my best for you. Kid Jack, you're the same thing. Oh, yeah. Don't want that. For athletes, that's why. I was talking to Coach Johnson on Tuesday about some of the conversations and sort of sought you and got out to have some conversations after the JT and Jack decided to come back. Just got to wait into it as we were expecting him. And how did that help you maybe get the right mindset I guess when it needs to come? Definitely kind of seeing it all the way through. I feel like people kind of just see what happened, and they don't know everything that goes into it, how long the season is now, what you got to do to prepare for, and what could happen in all that time from here to then. So I feel like we definitely just coached in, we kind of connected, we kind of just talked man-to-man, and he kind of just sent straight to me, and I feel like we kind of both are pretty honest. And we know we're making it. We're making each other better every day, and we got the four best D-ins, five best D-ins, honestly, in the college football, and we're gonna be one of the best D-lines in college football. How do you feel like a better player today

2:30:38than you were in this season? I feel like I've taken big steps in my roles of just being responsible and being more of a leader, and kind of stepping up and taking the step to kind of get out there more on the team, and kind of bring people in, and I feel like I'm kind of helping out more. I think record-in-wrapped costs are the TKFC. Zip sale? I mean, it sounds bizarre, but I mean, the season goes by so fast already, so when you're kind of like week 10 in, you're like wow, it's already week 10, so now it's kind of getting more time to kind of enjoy it, kind of save it, because I'm already in here for a feeling of refreshments for a face crazy. But you don't want to spend all your powder in the first month of the year, right? Oh yeah. There is that pace yourself there, but I mean, there is a mindset there, that's the season. Yeah, definitely, definitely gonna have the mental stability that hand all those weeks, all those practices. How much has Larry talked to you guys around a bit? Last question right here, from 2016, 2017, four NFL D-French events, all in the same amount as you know, which is, does he talk to that guy?

2:31:39I mean, he doesn't have to talk about it. We know about it. We've seen it every day, we watch the film, we see them all working together, we know what it could be, we know what we could become. So we know we're at the same, we're at the right place at the right time, and God wanted us to be here, and he knew we wanted us all to come together and kind of play together, and be able to bounce off, and just perfect our craft together. And I feel like we all are just great individuals, and we come together, it's something special. How did your expectations, like, as to meet up with, how do you feel, do you plan on doing this point of guess? I feel like I've made the plays that came to me, and that's where the Aakim control, had more opportunities, those years progressed, and been in the spot to be here on the ball. But the expectation was to come here, and contribute to the team, and try to help find a way to, push the team to win games at our level, and to be better than they were, and for me to play better than I was last year. So really just coming to try to grow with myself,

2:32:40and with the team, so that was my big goal, and I feel like I've done a good job, and the team has done a good job, progressing through the year and getting better. So yeah, that's all I can say about that. We're here to the right, to the main, let it go. Yeah, okay, I'll just stay here right now, just feel like a different season. What does it feel like for you to go in and play out? You know, you know, you'll get the goal you wanted, necessarily to make your season, but here you are, right? I mean, what is that sense? That you have right now, it's a different game, a lot of rigging season. I mean, everybody wants to say it's a new season in terms of, because if everybody's 0-0 right now, when you keep going, if you lose, you're done. So, I mean, but generally, that's how you get to play every game. You know, to play every game, like it's your last game. So for me, I don't think it's really any difference to get to go play at a high level every game, that can't be based upon, is a player of game, is a game game. So, you know, I don't go play every game, like he's the same thing. So, I would say in terms of that,

2:33:41no, you just have to play the game. Play the game is there. What feels difficult is defense right now, going into this, you know, Y'all feel even more... The fight we do, you know, up by the tide, and we close together. What was that? I mean, what was your sense of the brotherhood, so to speak, of the defense? I feel like we progressed throughout this season. We had to make a change after... Game 6, because we lost, and we didn't play well that game. And I feel like we'd grow up from that, and add to a better place. And over these past two weeks, off just realizing, okay, these are the things that we messed up throughout the year. These are what we need to face. These are what this team is trying to exploit on us. So just really going back to everything, seeing what we can do better for this kind of game, and for the next couple of years. Last couple of questions. Deep, Tony, you heard me, fuck a hell? How does the Tennessee's widespread with their receivers impact you as a country? I feel like it makes the game more, more, more, more game.

2:34:42It makes you receivers, and you're in DB, you set the place, set the game, and the guys up front. And it makes it, truthfully, like those guys have to do their job, and these guys have to do your job. You gotta be able to stop the run with the people they have in the run fit, and you have to be able to stop their path with the people they have out there. So that's what they do, and they do it at a really low, so it's gonna be tough to go in. And final question, Joey Koffin, on this discussion. Killer coach knows the time about the speed at which, there, you guys are at the call end, the lane is built for 10-hundreds of the top fans that you can play call end, what is the player kind of end, is it that gives you just speed at which you just call them? It allows you to get your clean senator, so earlier just a ability to see the formation, see what keys that you have before the play, have knowledge of your job, and not really thinking, being able to play and not make during the game is a really big thing. So whenever you can get the call, I'll fast or play a high level, and play without thought,

2:35:43that's a really good thing for you. Okay, look, thank you very much. Appreciate you. Yeah, come on, Patrick. You already got a check, so all your was locked in. You get to test that. So I definitely didn't in high school. I was pulled back in a little bit of tidan, so I feel like, I kind of saw what I could do there, and Coach Wilson, obviously, he loved watching it too, for what he loved, and he felt like he planned that seed and Coach Day's head, and Coach Day kind of just went for it, and tried to do the best I could to do it. Is that good, Chen, right now, I mean, or do you think anything in the screen? New playbook, I did not know you hadn't got that far. Yeah, good, but how tough was that, for you to look at back up? I like to think myself as a football player, I can really play any position on the field, you need me to just give me a week or two to learn it and kind of perfect it, and I'll try to do my best for you. Could Jack do the same thing? Oh yeah. What would you like? Graphically, that's why. Can you just talk into Coach Johnson on Tuesday about, some of the conversations, and sort of start viewing the out-to-outs of conversations after JT and Jack decided to come back? Just want to lean into those,

2:36:44and you're expecting to do it, and how did that help you maybe get the right mindset, against getting into this question? Definitely kind of seeing it all the way through. I feel like the people kind of just see what happened, and they don't know everything that goes into it, how long the season is now, what you got to do to prepare for, and what's happening all that time, from here to then. So I feel like we definitely just coached JT, and me kind of connected, and we kind of just talked, man-on-man, and he kind of just sent straight to me, and I feel like we kind of both have been honest, and we know we're making it. Making each other better every day, and we got the four best D-ins, five best D-ins, honestly, in the college football, and we're gonna be one of the best D-lines in college football. So you feel like a better player today, any more against me, see? Well, I feel like I've taken big steps in my rules, just being responsible and being more of a leader, and kind of stepping up and taking a step to kind of get out there more on the team, and kind of bring people in, and I feel like I'm kind of helping out more. I think record ran the process, so the T-K-H-C, and zip-sale, and gift-match.

2:37:47I mean, it sounds bizarre, but I mean, the season goes by so fast already, so when you're kind of like week 10, and you're like, wow, it's already week 10, so now it's kind of, gives you more time to kind of enjoy it, and kind of savor it, because you've come already here for a fairly refreshment, so it's crazy. But you don't want to spend all your powder for the first month of the year, right? Oh, yeah. There is a, not pace yourself, but I mean, there is a mindset, and I did that in season. Yeah, definitely, definitely gonna have to have the mental stability to handle all those weeks, and all those practices. I look at it, how much is Larry talking, guys, about like that? Last question right here. Okay, 16, 2017, four NFL two French veterans, all in so much, does he talk to that guy? I mean, he doesn't have to talk about it. We know about it. We see him in every day, we watch the film, we see him all working together, we know what it could be, we know what we could become. So we know we're right in the same, we're at the right place at the right time, and God wanted us to be here, and He knew we wanted us all to come together, and kind of play together, and be able to bounce off, and just perfect our craft together. And I feel like we all are just great individuals, and we come together at something special.

2:38:50You get like good coaches who believe in you, and like they give you the tools to go out there and just play with confidence, and you know, not out there doubting yourself, like you got your teammates, we got your back, like my first play when I got up there to the seat, like when to sail, IGB and I remain, like first thing they say is like, no, where you just go out there and play with confidence, you know, the tools, there's usual tools, it's just go out there and make a play, and where about a play coming to you? Now, where is your time, and show your job, and you just do it, and then like, say what coach wants, like he gives me, he puts me in a position like, at the drills we put in, the work you put in, the one-on-one tools to just go out there and just perform at the highest level. How much better are you right now than maybe last month, and forcefully right now? I mean, I got to lay better just because I've transitioned a little bit to the inside, Nicholas Fawcett, like now I'm actually trying to like catch, catch, take me, again, it's often covers not, it's not always press at the line, so it's like not able to like move my feet, move my hands, like see, like what I gotta do, just like just in case I gotta go back in corner, I can, I plan off now, I'm very confident out there. Do you think that was a natural fit for you

2:39:51or have you had to kind of convince yourself to transition around? I mean, I feel like it's natural fit for me because I feel like me, individually I'm a fast learner, a fast learner, like coaches help us like learn fast, like because they're always on us about the techniques and stuff, so you like, you might down, like you pick up all the things and then like, when we get out here, they coach us to like the techniques, so we used to go out there and play like fast spot, and it would like, like, you're able to go out there and just compete. Is that where you kind of stuff, just spring or do you get kind of mounted? So I've really been stuck there, this spring a little bit, but like whenever you get it to like other things, I just bounce out there every once in a while, just like have fun, see if I still got it every once in a while, so it's as good as to go out there to compete at most spots. You mentioned the technique, what technique, you know, tips and things that you had to pick up and learn from what's walking from taking the inside. I mean, it's always like, he always, because what preaches are asking hands, I see it, you see it, move your feet, and then get your hands on the mat, so it's like,

2:40:51when you get like, when you out there, you able to like process like the way the receiver comes off the ball, looking at the hips, and seeing like the way he moves, and are you able to pick up like the row constant, you can get out of that, like so it's being like other coach walls for me, like as a player, and just like him breaking out football to you, like one on one, it's like very beneficial. What was the hardest part of making that transition from outside inside? I really just saying like, cornering you got to cover two, you cover three, you cover one, it's easy, but then you got nickel, not so many responsibilities, you got to see like the row concepts, you got to be able to process, like dying those rows faster then, but you got to be able to do that corner, and just be able to like everything's quid, like a transition, you got to like, you got to move fast, you got to just learn to move fast. It's like game recognition, where do you think maybe from the balls since you got to, and how since you got to go to the ball, I'll definitely say, I'll definitely say, because how you get to like college, it's a little bit different, high school, you don't got to worry about things like that, when you get to college in school like this, like your recognition of plays,

2:41:53and like your loyal jobs, the way like the coverage is supposed to be played, I understand all your teammates or the first thing you have in field, it's like it gets easy. What have you heard out of the band? I'm a dead man, so far. He's very talented, he's a great dude, he's a humble guy, great teammate, very supportive, as I've got that you don't want to run, because you can feed off your energy, because you can see when you make a play, he's like, he like IGB, it's like IGB 2.0, so he's like, when you get off there with guys, like that would get energy, it makes you play a little bit harder, and it's like, when you make a play, it's out there, it's helping you, it's being out there with him, he's a good player. One of those guys, the first question, is it's a powerful kid, it's a couple of higher state obviously, in the last couple of years, so, probably so you're pretty, so now, what is it about one build that gets you through any play at all times? It's a big question, I know. It's a big question. Yeah, it really starts with a bit more, because we have so many kids come out of Google, and just play at games, and leave school, and then like,

2:42:54like, tracks a big part of it, because, I mean, after you know, Google, everybody got to run a track, like it's mandatory, you don't really get a choice. You able to just like get out here and like know how to compete, and then like, G like, getting builds that mental toughness into you, so it's like, have you like, have you're now, you got to be mentally tough, because I'm not like, life's not going to be easy, so it's like being out here, being able to compete, and when you down, just pick yourself back up, I mean, that's what being is done for me, and that's what being does. So, yes, why? Did you, how would you describe the mentality of the defense right now, getting this opportunity for a rematch in the world, and? Yeah, hungry and thankful. I mean, we know how the last time when, you know, we had a chip on our shoulder. I mean, we were riding high before that game, and we took that loss, and we came back and had to make a couple of changes, but I think we understand what everything's at stake right now, you know, just fighting to where another house, stage, or anything, and that's what's on stake, and just to be able to represent this state and this team. I mean, we understand what's on the line, and we're just hungry and blessed

2:43:55that we get this opportunity playing the Rose Bowl. Right behind you, Adam King, WBNS. What do you remember most about walking off the field in Eugene? What was kind of also your mind in that moment? I mean, there was a, I don't think anybody imagined it, imagined us losing. You know, I didn't, that's for sure, and I think after that, it was kind of hit deep, but understanding that, man, we still, there's still a lot of ball left to be played. I mean, you can let it sting for a little bit, but, you know, if you let it carry over too long, then, you know, there, there goes, there goes your whole season, but I think we did a great job of just understanding coming together in this room right here, not being afraid of display, or hold accountability for one another. And, you know, as that happened, we came back, we grouped, and, you know, we're just, going right now, and I'm just blessed for those specific moments, you know, losing. I mean, no one wants to lose,

2:44:55but the testimonies and the things you're taught within those little situations speaks of all of them. After all of them, later on. Jay, what did you see from King Adam the last couple of weeks, that was there like a push from him, and there were many conversations with him, and we can see that he's playing since the best performance I've seen. Yeah, I mean, that's my boy, he's in the R2X club too, but, you know, Keata, I mean, every time his number's caught, he goes out there and makes the most of it, no matter where we are in the game, when he goes out there, he's just hungry. He wants to go make plays, and, you know, we see it in practice, so it's not surprising to us. Bill, we're a bit of a waste of time, it's this bad. I'm still in Gavreau's obviously very elusive and he's not very tall. How important it could be to just kind of stay in your past rush lanes, and neglect a lot of balls, and kind of make a difference that way? Yeah, I think it just comes out being disciplined, no one who you're playing against, like you said, he's a, he's sure, but he's very elusive.

2:45:55I mean, he can, he is making throws, I mean, he get out the parking to everything, so I think for us, we just got to discipline and just continue to just meet with Coach Jay, with the coach knows and understand how we can just eliminate that. One question about you and Jack. I mean, your personality seems to be a little different, you're more on the quiet side, he's not. Yeah. How about it? You've played together four years, both five store guys, kind of describe your relationship with him, friendship with him, and just kind of how you cop with each other. Man, that's my brother, like he said, we're different, but very alike. Think outside, like you said, he's louder, you know, once we're on that field, we're like the same person. We'll do anything for this team, you know, we'll die for our players and we'll give everything we got. Room together for four years, correct? Yeah, fall camp. Every room. Yeah, sometimes go over there, slip over there. So yeah. There's the neat one, who's the messy one? We have our share of days when we,

2:46:56when I'm neat, he's neat, or you know, we might both be messy, but we do a good job. Yeah, I'd probably say I would better kick the jack though. Tony Gertmann, Black guy, how? When you're playing a team for the second time, and that was almost a season to go by now, how much of, are you at square one with the scouting and preparation, or how much do you take in that game? How much do you avoid taking so that you don't have any preconceived notions of what you're going up against on the offense or on the offense flying? I say it's pretty 50-50, I mean, that game, like you said, it was a while ago, but at the same time, they elevated as a team, so did we, so we understand that they had, they made some changes for sure. You know, there's a certain tendency we can take back from that game, but we also understand that they went on a low run after that, and we can see that they elevated as an offense, so we just got to continue to watch those games, dissect other games and just continue to see what stands out and what they changed from the past game. We got a couple calls on Zoom that we'll wrap up

2:47:57with, first we have Nick Hamilton from Nightcast Media. Nick? Just wanted to ask you basically about the synergy of this defense and how you guys were able to not only celebrate the triumphs but get through the adversity be able to be this top-notch defense that you are in college football today. Here, Pete, the question one more time. Yeah, no problem. Wanted to ask you about the synergy, you are able to develop over course of the season, obviously celebrating the triumphs, but also getting through the adversities to where you go all the top-notch defense that you all are today. Yeah, I mean, like you said, we went through a lot of trials to trials, but there's also, there's a lot of things we can take away from all the wins and losses. And from those wins, we understood that, hey, we can be the best defensive country, and from those losses, we understand that there's still things that need to be fixed. And I think when you take all that in, at once, that comes out to the Comma Gold

2:48:57or the Carmen Taco, which is, you can, there's always learning points everywhere, and depending how we dissect those games or how we just continue to come as one and elevate, you know, we continue to just collect all those, those learning points and just continue to grow from them. And one final question, Joey Kaufman, Columbus Dispatch, Joey. JT, what have you guys done better in the, especially in the Tennessee game, and just late in the season, you think about turning some of the pressures you've got on quarterbacks in the sacks and getting home in some of those situations? Yeah, I think it was more just understanding the defense as a whole, understanding everybody's job. The thing as the season went on, we had to understand that, you know, we have to know what's going on in the back end, we have to know what's going on, the linebacker crew to understand what plays we have, room of freedom, and I think once we understood that, and got a better understanding of everybody's job, I mean, it showed this play, because, you know, everybody knows what each other's doing.

2:49:59It's not like the linebacker know what they're doing. The corners and B.I., they know only their job. I think we all know each other's job, and we continue to ask each other questions, on, you know, if they're listening, how they can get to the quarterback, and, you know, if I'm dropping, playing quarterbacks, well, I can ask Cody on how to open field tackle it. So, you know, we just, we just kind of lean on each other's understanding, because, you know, like I said, like, Denzel knows how to play corner-bedded, and I know how to play corner. So, you know, he has more, more wisdom at that position than I do. JT, thank you very much. Thank you. Thanks, man. The first race of the moment, like, Denzel, in the ball time, I'm in the way. Definitely, a little bit of both. Obviously, I just wanted the team to win. I think we got a chance to win. No, definitely towards it, and then it stretched out last drive. I was a couple of plays here, a couple calls that he made me should have gotten, but, I think the frustration more so it just comes from, you know, wanting to win more, anything. As you said, he was a little surprised, so much attention, right away, from your defense. How about you?

2:50:59Yeah, definitely. We maybe killed him, or one of the ones, kind of how the game plan was set up. You didn't have to go like, you know, different coverage on the cloud to my side, and I just kind of had to gain those. What's the process then? I like sometimes where, but whatever reason, it just, just, just see that. Yeah, definitely. Especially in college, a lot of the game friends, defensively, were taking me away. You know, they had a lot of success. I was, they obviously, one of the boys had in different, the weapons, they kind of still get the victories, and I was, yeah, you continue to do better jobs doing it here. Why are you keeping the process been like post game, getting on the same page with Kyler, just, you guys exchange tax, do you guys get into the film? Yeah, film them, definitely, kind of asking what did I see there, kind of go over and play, and, I just, I give him what I saw, and kind of different feedback there. Mark, I get it, we're asking questions about the previous game. But are you the type of guy to let a game like that winger,

2:51:59or how do you flush it? You got to move on, got to move on, it's a long season guy. Like 16 more of them. Hopefully, no, I can stay healthy throughout the year and just continue to build and get better each week. You guys did so much work throughout the off season to get on the same page. How different is it when you get into that regular season? Yeah, it's totally different. It's totally different. You can do a lot of things, you know, inserts and shorts, and then once you go out there, put practice, and you got pads on, you do like the point practice we do with the colds, but there's nothing like actually going out there and live action, and really trying to get the same case. So I think that would really should both continue to develop and look at better. Is that it, just a matter of reps then, as much as I think is. Yeah, definitely, definitely. Like I said, I was kind of my first live action together. So I can continue to give it a game. When you're early impression, so I turn around the field together and I'm going to increase the season with cows. Yeah, but, now obviously I have a death serve to respect the JG's call or preseason, and obviously be all feel really healthy. That's kind of the most important thing that I was able to get a lot of healthy even going forward.

2:52:59So, that's it. I can see it. I'm already early impression to the Rams. What do you think of the Rams? Yeah, I mean, they're a good team. They're a good physical team. I got a new, a lot of new guys up front, I think. That's kind of where they're strong to it is. Kind of a little different to Buffalo, come over a little match coverage. So I'm excited to go against it. Personally, when the belts take taking one of them, it's having fun today. Wasn't many of them. Wasn't many of them. So, Beth, I think we could... I'm sure you think game versus just playing. You're not getting a preseason game, actually. I think it was preseason. It was definitely, definitely thinking a lot out there. And I think I'll come with reps. I think to think and less and just going out there and playing, definitely come with reps. And it's something you're gonna get better at, but I think definitely, say I was thinking a lot out there. Is there anything you can do to bring that? That's from the coverage. I think you did the best because you're gonna face that a lot. I'm gonna say that. Yeah, I mean, you just got to team, get open for yourself, make yourself available. And when the ball does, go away and make it into play.

2:53:59This, the heat is just taking you away. That means other guys are having a chance to get open. So that's how kind of high it is. No longer since it's you, no offense. That's the best thing for us. That kind of thing would be with Tyler. Is this something that comes pretty quickly in a new game or something like that? Mine is. Hopefully sooner or later, I think. I'm gonna look into you to see. We'll see. I don't think we're in a bad place right now at all. Obviously, I don't think that. But just a live episode will continue to grow and show. I think how I believe maybe different than somebody else may believe in. I like to practice at least. I could be positive. I mean, so, but the energy I would be on, just how high the view on, I'm starting to feel. So that's kind of how I would be. I was going on, literally my whole iPhone again. I felt team captain, like specifically, and I felt I wasn't a captain in high school. Wasn't a captain in college. But I want me to jump across high schools. I feel like I'm nodding to the captain till I get that I felt.

2:55:00Yeah. But that would be awesome. But, you know, that happens. That'd be great. But not either way, I want to assume a role as a captain from the perspective of guys on the video award and to get back to that point. Yeah, I mean, I can't say that, I mean, I guess the biggest thing is that I felt like how you used to move past, but it didn't take just the first LTAs and took training and left and right. Once this season ended, because I know what it was going to be. So, it's like a lot of reps, just to get back to feeling like myself for the LTAs. And then that whole first week, but now, like today specifically, just changing some small things with my feet. That is it. Talking about the long coach. Got some things I'm doing my feet to get to that, to sell my traditional angle that I love to sit on. Thought I felt great already, but I'm okay.

2:56:04I felt even better now than I did. Sorry, the more excited tomorrow now, I'm getting my feet back and how I like the right side and on the left side. So, I'm excited. I mean, obviously I feel like, in the league, whether you're left or right, you're still going against Premier Guy. So obviously, you're high expectations for the LTA. I'm not going to tackle, but definitely the level of energy and the expectation is definitely taking the human side. Because now, I can not get blind side. That's the D-tackle wall. You know, so, yeah, I would say, in terms of communication as far as this, even outside of the facility, and stuff like that, like really creating that, but in tackle quarterback, Bonnie Bumwong, the field, I think, has been something that's even good. Cool. I got the text one day, as I had, like, you put it up, I was like, you can't get it. You know, yeah, I've been training both. I've been training both. You know, I asked after the season there, like, honestly,

2:57:05you know, we'll talk to you, simply in the season, and I just got the text one. And I was like, I'm having what happens with the free agency. Then, so I was like, you know, what, I had an overseas and right tackle. So, if I get the word, I'm going, I'm staying in a right tackle. I just do what I did before I'm built on that. But I was like, oh, I was trying to left tackle now. As if I'm going to be left tackle. And I'd rather do that than training on right tackle with the color, you know, left tackle. I was like, oh, I was going to switch my feet. You know what I mean? So I'm like, let me just prepare it in advance. I was like, yeah, it was good. You know, I think occasionally, on third down, there would be a lot of twists. That was just not like, it's on a magic hook. And I think that was my mindset for like the first half of the season. Like, I didn't have to go into the game with some pros. Like, oh my gosh, I did that. I tried to figure, okay, like, this is the type of rush. I mean, again, this is how this guy usually rushes. If I get the vibe, this is how it begins, like, the rush, you know, tackles that first year guys.

2:58:05You got the premier patch on already, you know, what it was going to be, already, you know, what would be every stunt. And honestly, just knowing that's kind of an advantage to, so you're not, you're not, oh, the brother twists my sight again. It was never aerodontal, but it comes out the hot, like, three plays in a row. In two minutes, I knew that. It was going to be a lot of, you know what I mean? So I'm watching more everybody else, and you really, you know, it goes out there on occasion, on third down, I was like, you know, I was like, he's going to pick me, you know what I mean? So, that, that, it's kind of, it's also kind of an original way. But it's also exciting, like, okay, I'm going to get the hardest to look, you know, those are real, real reps, you know, the day, some, really out on our way to kind of process. And I was like, hey, when they tell me, they'll let me know about, I'm just going to train it. I was training all the way to T.A.'s, I guess, if I didn't hear anything about T.A.'s, I came in like, so, you know what I mean? Because just like, I'm cool with training both,

2:59:07I would have been cool with training both continually, but I feel like anybody, any position will be like, okay, like, you want as soon as possible to get your feet kind of settled in, your hips settled in, your hands, so then, second kind of like, we've been hard of it, you work both very hard to you. No, you know, but they're definitely, but sometimes the development is definitely a lot faster to stay on one side, but I think having that week that we had the transition with the seasons over, you've been like, it was fun, you know. It could turn me up, put them on the front, and we think it's at a time right now, but when it comes back, I'm going to show them that you're in the house, so I've got a house not too far from, so I told them, I got that house, like, I got a yellow outside. DJ. You don't have anything, so. Yeah. That's doesn't have any stock or anything.

3:00:08Doesn't mean anything, so we have to play on Friday, and that's really all that matters. We're going to take two more from Zoom before turning it back. Our first one's going to come from Stephen from Cleveland.com. Go ahead. It's the fun, I'm sorry. Hey, Caleb, we've seen, you were talking about the Ohio State Office, the success that they've had. Obviously, Jeremiah has been a big part of that. What's it been like this year going against him in practice, and after doing that, does it surprise at all to see him having a success he's had as a freshman? No, it doesn't bring surprises. It was pretty easy to see the talent that he has and the blessings that God has put on his plate. But it's always a challenge going against Jeremiah and the other receivers in Mecca and Karnel in practice, and even guys like Brandon and his impression Rogers, they do a great job bringing lists for the defense and create a lot of obstacles. I'll find a question from Zoom is going to come from Dan Hope.

3:01:09Go ahead, Dan. Caleb, you've been had a lot of success against you guys when you played him at Alabama last year. Just what do you remember from going up against him last year and what can you learn from that game? Really smart quarterback knows how to operate their offense, push the ball in the right places, and then Coach Sarkisian does a great job putting him in positions to win. Jerry, back to you. Yep, thank you, Rob Aller. Columbus Dispatch, Caleb, JT and Jack playing opposite sides. And they is opposite off the field. As they are on in terms of personality and just the people they are. They're offices, but they're also one of the closest people I know they spend a lot of time together. They've come from different sides of the country so they're different people for sure, but they're both really great people, a really great man. I'm sorry, I respect both of them. You have the personality. How did you do that?

3:02:12I'm not going to do that. I'm sorry. I'm not going to do that. It's going to be awesome, Warren. Come on, Cap. Throughout the season, we would always see you on Wednesday nights, you and Nathan would be some of the last people off the field. Are the things that you're working on after a practice always the same? Is it a routine? What are the things that you're hoping to get out of those extra moments after practice? So routine, pretty much, the keys that we need to go into the game with. And then also changes week to week on based on what our jobs are going to put us into doing. So every week we go through the same things and then we add certain things that we do for the, what the team that we play is going to ask us to accommodate. Bill, we're going to win. Pull him as this batch. Yeah, I already got one here. Oh, OK. Joe and Goplin, pull him as this batch. Kill him. One. Texas uses play action and Nathan uses play action to clear a bit. What do they do well in those spots? What's the key for you guys in those moments with Quinn? They do a really good job with I Candy.

3:03:14And it creates a lot of challenges for defense in order to see if it's runner pass. And see, because that's when they're going to take their shots to as well. So really just having great eye discipline, seeing the line and seeing what it's telling us. So that's what it does. Keep right. Nick Walker, Letterman, roll. Hey, look, you guys had a pretty good game playing for Tyler Warren. What do you guys play? You guys have another Texas has a good tight end and Gunnar Hound. What are you guys going to have to do to limit him and what do you think about his game? He's a really good player. He makes a lot of plays. And he has a lot of receiving yards this year. So really just do the same thing we've done all year. Just be disciplined in our responsibilities. And if you're on them, you've got to make a play when it comes. Right. One of the main drillists, Clayman.com. When you look at their receivers, it's kind of a whole, they spread the ball around. It seems like a lot of what stands out about the way that they can spread the ball around with those guys. A lot of really good athletes.

3:04:14I play with Isaiah Bond, last year, who's a really great receiver, a lot of speed. And then all their receivers have made a lot of plays. So everybody has to be on that peasy queue as if we're going to stop them and have a do a really good job. Front row here, 10 May, Letterman Row. Yeah, Kale, you moved up here. I don't have to tell you when you moved it. Basically a year ago. And stuff. It was a little bit of a leap of faith, because you know how many athletes are on this team and get athletes to stuff. Why didn't you really feel this defense come into its own? And then past that, man, watching you in the Rose Bowl, you're recognition of what was coming seem to be on point. Did it feel like that? I mean, you personally. I think the defense has played really well throughout the season. I think we've had games where we played better and games where we haven't put it all together. But I think that's how all defenses are. So I can't say there's a certain moment where I think we put it together.

3:05:15But what's your second part of your question? You seem really on point against Oregon about recognizing what was coming. I mean, you were really active out there directing and things like that. Did it feel like that? I guess. I feel like, as Luke said earlier, the preparation that we put in goes into that. And just feeling comfortable in what we're doing, comfortable in what we're seeing with the other teams. I feel like that allows us to play fast and me and Laketon to communicate to everybody else. Do I miss anyone's questions here? Steve, how long have you been playing in sports? Yeah, Caleb, but you came to Ohio State to play for National Championship. And there were a lot of ups and downs throughout the season. Just to be in this position, the last four teams still live. Just you feel validated by that. And did you always have faith that this is how it was going to turn out? I came to Ohio State to become a better player and to help the team be as good as it can be, not to win a national championship. Like that wasn't the only goal for me coming here.

3:06:17Really just wanted to be in the team and be with the brotherhood. But it's a great feeling being in the final four and being with the team and everything that comes with that. But it's a blessing to be here. And one final question, Bill, where Ben wants to play this back? Yeah, I did want to follow up. When I talked to you at the after the game, you said when they scored their first and second touchdown, you were really hot on the sidelines. What was your message to the team? And that's a good off, that's they're going to score against most people. Really just because we didn't execute, which let them score. So we've done that a lot, which is something we can't do in these big games and these games where it's winter go home. So we got to make the plays when they come and get our competitive excellence as Coach Dases make the play where your number's called. Caleb, thank you very much. Come on. I feel like they're definitely picking up quick. I mean, I was in their shoes one time and I had Zach Harrison, Javante, Tyler Friedell, I'm trying to meet you. That's where I'm just trying to be one of those peers that they work for me and kind of just give them

3:07:17the steps to get there. And I feel like they're definitely picking up quick and they're definitely going to be one of the great rushmen. So when Coach Dases on the road, JT and Jack probably didn't meet at the time of their experience, maybe that's some of the opportunities for you to be able to do a lot of, is there a difference in the work going because you've been getting through half of camp with the last couple? I feel like all the camps, I've definitely gotten a big course load and I love that. I asked Coach J4, I love getting more reps because I just like protecting my craft. So I mean, some people may not need it, some people need it, but I mean, it looks like he has made reps and it looks like he has. I'm going to speed up on that course load. So what's going on right here? I mean, for me, it's always just kind of getting my little details perfectly, like my steps, my footing, kind of just perfecting my toolbox and what we call it and my craft and just trying to be a second winner every place we're trying to do. I think you're trying to figure something out. I'm going to try to do it. You see what I'm going to say about any order in this game?

3:08:19Yeah, I'm definitely just getting stronger, faster, everything all the above, but one of my big things would be the leader and kind of just not trying to look still look up to Jack and JT and kind of have my own kind of leadership and be able to bring people into it. So I feel like I kind of have a lot of leaders on the D line and have to be in position. So we kind of all kind of just kind of talk with each other and kind of. It's been a tough time. I'm going to show you a music video. I'm going to talk to you guys, playing with the role of you and all the fans and just kind of trying to do it. And try to keep it going. So you need to keep these guys positive. It's competitive and we love it. We all competitive people, we all love to fish together. And I feel like the springing the best side of all is, I feel like we all just kind of bounce it off together and see what one person does and be kind of better than the archival box. And we all kind of just kind of build one great thing. You remember last year when you got the shot of the full bag hit a close. And did they approach you with that idea and you could catch them? I mean, how did that come about? Because you heard Jackson, all your clock in.

3:09:20You could get the test done. So I definitely did it in high school. I was full back and a little bit tired. And so I feel like it kind of saw what I could do there in Coach Wilson. Honestly, he left watching it too before he left. And he played that seed in Coach Day's head and Coach Day kind of just went for it and tried to do the best I could to do it. Is that the chin ring now? I mean, do you need anything in the spring? New playbook. I did not know you haven't got that far. Yeah, you haven't got that. How top is that? But you're looking back. I like to think myself as a football player. I can really play any position on the field. You need me to just give me a weaker two to learn it and kind of perfect it and try to do my best for you. Kit Jack, you're the same thing. Oh, yeah. And we'll walk back. We're athletes, that's why. I think it's talking to Coach Johnson on Tuesday about some of the conversations and sort of sought you and got out to have some conversations after JT and Jack decided to come back. Just got to win into those from your perspective and how did that help you really get the right mindset I guess community experience? Definitely kind of seeing it all the way through.

3:10:21I feel like people kind of just see what happened and they don't know everything that goes into it, how long the season is now, what you got to do to prepare for and what could happen in all that time from here to then. So I feel like we definitely just coached in me kind of connected and we kind of just talks man-to-man and he kind of just sat straight to me and I feel like I'm kind of both a person. I mean, no one making it. Making each other better every day. We got the four best DNs, five best DNs, honestly, and college football. And we're going to be one of the best DLines in college football. How do you feel like a better player today than you were in this season? I feel like I'm checking big steps in my roles of just being responsible and being more of a leader and kind of stepping up and taking a step to kind of get out there more on the team and kind of bring people in and I feel like we're kind of helping out more. How do you recommend a round of past DLs? So a TKFC, ZXL, DL? I mean, it sounds bizarre, but I mean, the season goes by so fast already. So I mean, you're kind of like week 10 in,

3:11:22you're like, wow, it's already week 10. So now it's kind of, it keeps you more time to kind of enjoy it and kind of save it. Because you've come already here for a feeling of freshness, freshness, freshness, crazy. But you don't want to spit on your powder for the first, first month of the year, right? Oh, yeah. Is that not pace yourself, Dan? I mean, there is a mindset that I did that season. Yeah, definitely. Definitely going to have the mental stability that I hand all those weeks and all those practices. How much has Larry talked to you guys around like that? Last question right here. 2016, 2017, 2004, and about two-fetched dollars in total. How much does he talk to that guy? I mean, he doesn't have to talk about it. We know about it. We've seen it every day. We watch the film. We see them all working together. We know what it could be. We know we could become. So we know we're at the same, we're at the right place at the right time. And God wanted us to be here. And He knew we wanted us all to come together and kind of play together and be able to bounce off and just perfect our craft together. And I feel like we all are just great individuals. And we come together at something special. Great. Doing it, what were the deliberations? I'm surprised it's even a conversation.

3:12:23Like, it should always be live. Let's tell you. Let me play football. So obviously there's a proximity to the season, which is a little reckless, I understand that. But in spring, when you're competing for jobs, I mean, if I'm a quarterback, I'm asking to be live. So I can show him how I'm different than, you know, anyone that can't be live. You know what I mean? They're always trying to find an edge. And if you're never fully live, I don't think you fully give guys opportunity to be who they want to be or who they can be. So that being said, you know, I will cast my vote, but that will not be my final decision on that. But I will cast my vote. I think I can handle it well. It was good for all parties involved. And more we can do that, the better, but I'm sure that is coming to a close here very quickly. So. At Murphy, 24-7. Right. General Maya off the field, we saw after practice on the Saturday, the mob that came to get autographs and things.

3:13:24When you're working with him on all these things you're talking about, but also dealing with the life of being one of the biggest names in college football, how do you help mentor him in that aspect? Yeah, I mean, it's a blessing to be in a position where, you know, can provide insight or, I wouldn't say recommendations, but just give perspective. Well, he chooses to receive the perspective or not one or not. He always does, but which is fine. But to be in that position is really humbling. That being said, he does a really good job on his own. He doesn't need to check the one too much. He's really done a great job. Again, the way he was raised and his morals and humble and always sign and taking pictures. I'm always trying to be the bad guy for him because he's not going to be and just says again more about his character. But he's not the only guy. Any guy would kind of do that. We have a group full of awesome young guys, but Jeremiah has done a great job with it, and he's handling it.

3:14:24And it's definitely growing at an exponential rate, to say the least. But I think he's built for it. And he's been handled at a high level. But those around him were trying to help him out a little bit. Yeah. What made Quincy the first freshman to do this black track this year? Uh-huh. Yeah, I mean, that's a good question. I think that, uh, you know, frankly, you know, I don't, I'm not really fully evolved with that. So that can be, but I wasn't. You know, I think that people on the outside would be defense or even coach day or anybody brought it to my attention. You know, we're kind of just going about practice. And that's our expectation to make plays, not make mistakes. And he was starting to make a lot of plays consistently. I think the consistent level that he's been as a person, being on, being on time and doing what his job description on each play and the ball is coming your way

3:15:25and making some big plays. And, uh, you know, it starts, it starts being seen by your peers. And your peers are asking for it. They start barking, getting a stripe off all those kind of things. That's the ultimate sign of respect. I think when your peers, you know, go to your bat. And he's not going for his bat. No one, uh, people are bringing it to your position coach. I think it speaks volumes of the general respect that you're earning through the process. So I think it's something like that happened. And, you know, as well as there based on his peers and the other coaches. Step on the creation. Cleveland.com. Ryan Day was talking about how impressed he's been this spring with Austin Sarevold. All that he's been able to do. And Tyler Bohn was talking last week about the importance of the cross-training and all that that goes into that. Just how much have you seen Austin benefit from this spring and everywhere that he's been? And how big of a piece do you think he's going to be regardless of where he fits on this offensive line? Yeah, I think Austin's been awesome. I mean, he literally, you know, what was they say? He played every split, every position. We just move around, you know, and handles it. And, you know, he's one of those guys.

3:16:27I feel like you watch film over and over again day after day. His name never really gets brought up, you know, in a good way. Like, you know, the old line, your name gets brought up when, uh, usually not going as well, you know, I mean, they're literally at the point of attack on every single play. So there's nowhere to hide. And so, uh, but Austin, when his name gets brought up, he's like, man, that was a good job. Very good job. Pass off that combo. It's always positive and, uh, been really impressed with him. He started in the winter. Did a great job through the winter, again, continuing to build their respective peers. And then he's going to a good job. Really good job just being a very consistent two spring. Our left, Jeff Gilbert, press pros. Brian, since you've been working more with the whole offense, so when it comes to quarterback play, what has grown in your, I don't know, appreciation of that position and what those guys have to do and go through? What do you think more about those guys versus maybe what you thought before is just a wide receiver guy? Yeah, I mean, I mean, there's no just a wide receiver guy. Do you want to be a wide receiver guy?

3:17:28But you won't be a very later on. It's all about, it's all about quarterback play, you know, so I think in that same world, though, to the point is that, you know, in order to be a great receiver, or receiver guy, whatever you want to call it, there's only one page, just the quarterbacks page. So everything is based off them. Whether they're progression, they're timing, the stresses they have is what we're trying to minimize. So if you don't fully understand the quarterback play, it's hard to maximize receiver play, I think. That being said, yeah, I'm still always learning. I think that I can't say anything's jumped out massively right now. But I would say that, you know, I guess I would say that the preparation level, I mean, that what is required to execute and play at a high level, it's just not capable in the a lot of time, right? I mean, there's only so much time where I'd be with players. If you're not willing to spend, you know, your own time, getting prepared for practice to be to maximize one's ability,

3:18:32there's a good chance you're not going to maximize your ability. So, you know, other positions, I mean, O-line same thing, I mean, receiver play sometimes can, you know, get away from it. We do a great job studying and being in the room extra for sure. But the requirement of a quarterback to know, the fixed protections, the BR run game coordinator based on the calls, you know, to get us in different checks. I mean, there's so much they need to know. And frankly, you know, the O-line's only as good as the quarterback, the receiver's only as good as the quarterback, the offense is only as good as the quarterback. And it's our responsibility to put guys in position to maximize with their capable of maximizing. But their inability to notice that they can just spend extra time outside the allotted time, I think is critical. And the amount that it takes, I guess that's maybe a little naive too, but the guys are doing a great job doing it. Just a couple more coaches got a beating, Rob Aller, Columbus Dispatch. Brian, you know, you guys reached the mount top. You got a banner out there, national champs. I think you keep these guys grounded.

3:19:32Being in the moment, looking ahead, not back. Do you have a tougher on them? Because no, I think that, I mean, I think we have a lot of guys, you know what? I think it's understanding that we were trying to build the map to get to where you wanted to get to. But now that we have the map, doesn't mean we've traveled the path. So like, we know what it looks like. The guys that are here know what it's supposed to look like. The guys that for us, say, unbelievable example, how to get to where you want to get to. So the focus is on trying to replicate what they just did and how they operated. Can't say we've done that right now. So it's very easy to stay motivating because they already know it's not good enough, frankly. And so the last thing they want to do is put in a ton of effort and then not reach their goals. So motivation, I don't think is needed. I think there is a catching up of those and maybe aren't quite sure what it takes. But overall, motivation is not what we've needed.

3:20:34Clarity of message is definitely what we've been focused on. And I think the message is being received. So not concerned about motivation and the looking back, if you will, I think everyone's pretty focused on being forward and knowing we haven't accomplished anything. Steve, it means Cleveland, Dr. Ong. Who would you say is the leader of your wide receiver who we're going to bring now? Well, I would say Colonel Tate, Brennan Innis, probably done the most outspoken in the room. Yeah, I would say they're doing a good job. Those are probably the two guys that would jump out of my room. Yep. I mean, because Brennan, he's been in trouble. Obviously, Colonel taking on that role more and being more vocal. He's in the football court, obviously, and he's the only other, but that process for him and becoming a more vocal leader took for you to say that along him. What was the question? What do you think the growth part of it? Yeah, I mean, I think he's pulled guys aside. You know, it had one-on-one conversations with him.

3:21:37He's locked in, you know, just, I think he saw the impact that I'm eccomade and the role he played. And to think that we're going to lose that and then be a better group, probably doesn't mathematically make sense to him. So someone's got to set up in that role. And one, I don't want to respect them too. He knows he's capable of it. And it's just the desire and the appreciation, I think, to be at the table now, the overhead. And appreciate the way I met, could probably win about his business. And so he probably valued that, appreciated that. And he's just being assured we still have that. Final question, Bill Rebell, explain this back. Could you assess the running back room? I think it's pretty much assumed both those running backs, to CJ and James think that's hand-in-system is probably the way you better go again. How is it working? And do you see third and maybe fourth guys up in the mirror? I think that in college football, in a football, any football really, you've got to have depth in the running back room. I think that it's very apparent in the NFL.

3:22:39It's usually a two-back system, very rarely, is it one guy. But in college, I think we saw the benefit of that last year. The ability to complement each other is really important. And the ability for us to identify what they do great and put them in good positions to be what they are. And what they're best at, I should say, is really important as a coaching staff. I've been very impressed with even the younger guys, Sam, and Bo, and the way they've come along, the consistency, so what you're chasing, right? You're always able to, that's why you're here. But how often you do it ultimately dictates how much you play. But overall, I think locks have been on them. They'd understand the standard in pass-pro, and not being a guy we got to sell out, because you can't pass, protect. So we were blessed, especially with Trey last year, and Quen Shan. So, but no, these guys are done a good job. They're competing. They've been very coachable. No, it's really, it's shown a plot on film. But yeah, I mean, it's always hard on backs. I mean, every opportunity you get to go live

3:23:39and break tackles really keeps you the most feedback on what these guys are capable of. If you're just playing tag out there, you never get any art, unless you shouldn't. But the running backs on contact day has done a good job. James has done a really good job growing, really excited about him. Everyone's really excited about him and CJ. So, I think ultimately, how good will the group be? It's probably based on the bottom horizon, right? I mean, you're gonna have some guys at the top, but where's the floor? And so I think Bo and Sam has done a really good job, many some more guys to get healthy, and more guys on campus, but very encouraged. And you saw him improve. And then McLean, I think, is a great plus. I mean, he is a guy that has football and intelligence. He's picked it up. You know, he's kind of of those incoming freshmen who still should be in high school.

3:24:40He's a guy I think you're gonna point to, and you can see right now he's gonna be a player. Over to the right, Austin Ward, the podcast. A healthy Mitchell Melton. How does he fit in for your defense? What does he bring to it? Yeah, he's, you know, matches that combination player, you know, in our four down, you know, he's a guy that can do a lot of things, drop, fold in there, and make plays, you see some of that all the time. Really athletic, you know, we're kind of loaded at that end position. So he's gonna play there. But, you know, like I said last year, we haven't needed it, but he's a guy you would point to along with C.J. Hicks, you know, for the long season. People get injured, you get a little light inside. It's always hard on the defensive tackles. But if you're gonna play with three ends, you know, that matches a guy who definitely can do all that.

3:25:41He has that. Over to the left, Joey Kaufman, Columbus Dispatch. Jim, you've talked about this before, but I think in past years where you're going up against a really talented receiver group offense to encourage your players to, it's not okay if they give up the play and to go nearly almost the first half. Today, where you, the offense didn't get in the end zone until the late in the second half, just, and you guys have guys down the second area, just what did you think of that sort of trend and how it's evolved in the way you guys almost shut them out of the first half? Yeah, I think it's become, you know, an expectation now. You know, our DBs, you know, our BIA, Best in America, we led the country in past defense, right? I think it was 96, what I got here, and it was number one last year. So they've taken that spirit. So it's a competitive spirit. It's an expectation now. It doesn't matter who we're going against. It's, they view it as a standard.

3:26:42So that was good to see in the first, first half. Over to the right Spencer Holbrook, Letterman Rowe. Jim, we've talked about safety, changing the way that you play defense in the Leo and the linebackers, but how much does having the depth that you guys have in defensive tackle change the way that you can do things defensively? Yeah, I mean, you're going to play to your strengths, you know, and that's, that's my job. This is to, what do we have and what do we do best? And when you have defensive tackles, but I've said it before, it helped our defense so much last year, when you have defensive tackles that actually make tackles, which is what we have right now. It changes the way you call a game. You know, it certainly helps you be in better shape on explosive plays on the back end. You don't have to do a whole lot to help those guys out because they're making tackles. So you got to go, you got to go with that. You know, you got to let those guys play and, and they're good.

3:27:42So you can't get too far away from the scheme of having those defensive tackles make place because they're doing it and it works. Over to the left, Tony Gurdman, Buckeye Huddle. Jim Ryan talked about the quarterback run being more of a thing with the offense cheer during the season. How much of, when you're facing a team like that, how much does that impact your day-to-day throughout the week preparing for that? Yeah, it's a ton, you know, it, I think it changes everything you do on defense. You see it everywhere from the NFL on down if you have a quarterback who can make plays with his feet. Your scheme better be designed that, you know, to, to take that away into account for it. So it changes the way you look at everything when you're game planning. Thank you, Donovan. Over here to the right, Tim May, the Tim May podcast. Yeah, Jim, you might be the interviewer when I asked Ryan about just, for example, Calvin Simpson Hunt, but the corner scene did be playing almost with the chip owner, shelter to a certain extent. I mean, Davis and Nick Benosin took the day personally. It looked like, you know what I mean?

3:28:43Because some of the height going into the game. But what do you see from that group in particular that Buies you going into this offseason? Yeah, when you can, when you have corners that you can count on, again, just like having defensive tackles in the run game, when you have corners you can count on that are going to compete all the time. No matter what the situation is, and we've developed that, again, it changes the way you call the entire game. I mean, you, you're able to leave those guys on an island. You're able to switch out converges and they know what they're doing and they take great pride in it. So having those guys out there in the development, it's a big deal. It really is. And it's not just the picture of the board. I just came in late back here. Yeah, I mean, he's, he did come in late and, you know, he compete, he's one of those guys that just competes every day, doesn't say much, you know, he's trying to live up

3:29:43to the standard of the other guys. And you, you see him coming along, you know, you see him step by step coming along and, and, you know, put him in a, you know, competitive atmosphere, same step up. That's a great sign. And final question for coach Noel is Dan Hope, 11 Warriors. You mentioned CJ Hicks a few minutes ago. Have you seen him take the strides? You need to see the spring to trust him as a guy who could be a potential starter on his defense? Yes, I mean, I think CJ has shown that he has talent. And I think it's my job to put him in the best situations for him because he can be a force. You know, he's much better when he's blood-sing or he's directed because he's able to use his athletic ability. But he has certainly shown that he's going to be able to help this defense. Coach, thank you very much for your time. Hi, Jim. Hi, Jim. All right. And we will bring offense of court dinner and quarterback coach Chip Kelly to the podium now.

3:30:47We'll open up the questions over to the left Bill Rebenowitz Columbus dispatch. Hey, Chip. What are your just general impressions of the offense coming out of spring, especially at quarterback? We'll look at all 15. So I think this day is a big part of it, because it was the first time they were going to play. Some of those guys that were going to play in from the crowd. And that was an amazing crowd. You needed 80,000 for spring game. Now, you could see some of the young guys kind of looking around like, wow, this is different than the indoor. But that's what they have to get ready to play in. So we got better from practice 1 to practice 15. It's still in evaluation through the whole process. But it's not something in the players, too, that we're not making a decision walking off the field today, saying, hey, this is the direction that we're going in. We'll be very authentic and look through everything and make sure that we get a really good feel for what it all looks like and then who will best move this offense. That's what our decision's going to be. What about the situation? I do. I think we got a lot of guys there. That part's tough.

3:31:47I think because there's guys that deserve reps. And they're all competing for it. So sometimes you'd like to be. Sometimes when you had a guy who was an initial starter, well, he's going to get the bulk of the reps. He's going to get them better. But they capitalize on it. We really rolled them. If you were at some of our screen practices, you're watching all those guys rotate in, rotate out. And as we talk about all the time, the old adaches don't count your reps, make your reps count. And we'll put it all together and really come up with which guy do we really feel is going to help us move this offensively. Over to the far right, Bill Landis, the podcast, Kings of the North. Hey, Chip. You said when we first talked to you that the basis of a lot of your success running the football just kind of figuring out what your guys do best and then leading into that. Over 15 practices now, how good of a field do you think you have for that? And then what did the next few months look like as you try to piece that all together? Really good question. It's interesting because the one thing that I think sometimes makes it tough and in evaluation is what a good front we want to get.

3:32:47So for 15 practices, those guys on the other side of the ball were pain. Jack and JT and Tileek and those guys. But I know come fall. There's not going to be anybody more happy that we have those guys on the defensive side of the ball because of what they can do. So I still think we'll have to really evaluate that, what we're good at, what we're not, what we got to get better on, what we got to work on. But I think the work we got against such a quality defense was really key for us. Over to the far left, Nathan Barrett Clealand.com. So you were go at this time. It came out of the spring with still a lot of question marks about the offensive line. And even I guess that last season came out with question marks. What have you seen that progress in the time that you've been here and what's your confidence level that that offensive line's going to allow this offense to do everything it wants to do this fall? Yeah, I mean, I've been here short amount of time. So I didn't know. I really don't have anything to compare to. So I kind of tabular rassa come in with a blank slate and just observe it. I think we're really athletic. I think Donnie and Seth and those guys inside are really smart and really intelligent.

3:33:49They allow you to be able to make adjustments in game. Just tuck and football with some of those guys. It's like, well, these guys are wired the right way. And a lot of those guys have played a lot of football. So they can bank on their experience there. I think we've got about four guys that have played significant amount of snaps. And we've got to make sure we can find out who the fifth guy is. But that's similar to where the quarterback spot is, I think. And I also think in the offensive line, you're not going to play a 16-17 game season and just play with five guys. You really have to develop your depth there. There's going to be a number two center that's going to play a lot of football. There's going to be a number two guard, whether it's on either side of the ball. There's going to be a third tackle. I think you're going to get tested, especially in this new playoff format. You really have to think that way. So you're not looking for five starters. You're really looking for 10 starters because you're going to have to probably play 10 guys to get when you get through a 16-17 game season. Over to the right, Austin Ward, the podcast. I think it was the first play of the game, the T-Formation. And then the reverse center spin move with Will Howard, under... What's the inspiration for that package

3:34:50and that sort of rink of what the quarterback? Mr. Hayes. Do you have a... There's a looming figure around this whole program. We get to go to work every day and the Woody Hayes Athletics Center. So it was good enough for Woody. We're going to stay there. We're going to do it. We ran some last year. I think we took 21 snaps at UCLA and T-Fed a short yardage formation for us. And we've done some different things with it. But I also think our players had a lot of fun, practicing that and doing some different things. So it's a small part of our offense. We will not be in the T21 times in one game. But we may get in in some short yardage situations. And I think it's come back. There's a lot of schools right now that are starting to do that. It's really just you're trying to... You've got a half a yard to get. You're trying to get your big guys in the game. And I think we use three tight ends and two running backs in our formation today with Pecker and being the full back in that situation. So there's a lot of different things you can do in short yardage. But a little bit of a tribute to Coach Hayes

3:35:51and what he means to this program. Joey Kaufman, Columbus Dispatch, over to the left. Chip, did you look back? Now, you've been here two months, 15 spring practices. Is there something you feel best about what you've been able to accomplish with this offense? Well, I haven't accomplished anything because I didn't take a snap. But I think the most impressive thing since I've been here is how close close this football team is. Some programs talk about a brother. This is really a brotherhood. Our practices, as we talked about, how good our defense is. They're highly competitive, but they're not combative. And those guys really work very, very well together, both the whole line in the D line, the secondary and the receivers. The competition is the best. It's got to be the best there is in the country. And that makes you better. But I think sometimes competition guys can lash out and it gets really combative. And then all of a sudden, the fight breaks out, and the fight breaks out. And we're trying to accomplish and get footballed on. And I think the way these guys cooperating and work together as a group is a special bond. And I think you're going to need the closest team and the most connected teams on the ones that win.

3:36:52Over to the right here. Andy Baxter, Letterman Rope. Chip, obviously, there's been a lot of talk about Jeremiah. But Ameca is the big return in this group. He kind of reminded everyone what he can do today. What's it been like working with him? And what kind of weapon can he be for you guys? Good point. And Ameca has reminded me and the other 14 practice sessions of what he can do. Special player. And JJ is a really talented player also. But I think all of the whole group, Cornell tape, did some really good things watching him this spring. And for all of them, I mentioned it with the offensive line. I came in with a blank slate. I had no opinions formed. Not that really just wide-eyed and just observant. But I think that wide-receiver is really special. And I think there's a bunch of guys in there. And again, you have to play multiple games after the regular season is over. You're going to make sure you're going to need depth like that. And the fact that you feel a little bit comfortable right now, that we got some guys there that can make some plays on the perimeter. And that really dictates how people are going to defend you. So you got a couple of really good running backs.

3:37:54So you're really going to load the box. So you're really going to load the box and leave those guys in one-on-one coverage. Well, then it's the quarterback's responsibility to decipher that and get the ball to those guys. So we're going to do the atlicit double covers. They list the double covers. And now it's a little bit lighter box. And you can run the ball. So having too many weapons is a good problem to have. Second roll left, Pat Murphy, 24-7 sports. Chip, we've talked a lot about the quarterbacks, maybe vying for the starting spot. But some of the younger guys, what have you seen from them? We got an opportunity to see more of them today than we probably have. What's your assessment of them as they get in this? I always am so impressed with young guys that enroll early in watching how they get acclimated and what they do. And you look at Julian and Aaron and JJ. They should be in the hot lunch line of their high school. And they're out here playing in front of 80,000 people. And they've really progressed when you watch them in meetings and listen to them. And they interpret. So basically, the whole concept, too,

3:38:55is we throw them in the deep end and see if they can swim. This, we didn't baby anything. We don't put the install in with, hey, you guys are in. We're going to install this with the older players. And then you guys go sit at the kitty table. And we're just going to do the really simple things with you. They get it all. And the more they can digest, the more when you're in a room, when you're checking for understanding and asking questions. And they can spit back to you the more confidence you have when they get in there with the plays that you can call for. So those guys have been impressive. They're still learning. They were the guys today that we're kind of looking around and saying, wow, there's like 80,000 people here. Along with the offensive coordinator and the quarterback coach, because I was kind of looking around. Because I had actually never been in the stadium until yesterday when we had our 14th practice in there. So I played Ohio State once when I was at Oregon, but that was in the Rose Bulls. I had never been actually in the stadium until yesterday. So I caught myself when I went into the stadium today, looking around saying 80,000 for a spring game. That's impressive.

3:39:56Got time for just a few more folks over here to the right Dylan Davis. Delaware Gazette, given what you just said about throwing them into the deep end, what stood out the most to you about Julian's progression through 15 practices and where he is as you guys head out of spring? Julian is a very fast processor. He really thinks very, very quickly on his feet. He makes really quick decisions. He doesn't stick on and read. He can progress in any C-s things really well for a young player. And not having been exposed to a lot of college defenses. And especially what Jim does. Jim can make a young freshman quarterback cry with some of the stuff he does. But I never saw that with Jules. And that's been impressive his ability to retain him and JJ. The compliment I would say to him is, if you got here and you didn't know what class they were in, you wouldn't say that those guys' refreshments in terms of how they've picked things up. And sometimes freshmen act like freshmen.

3:40:57But the guys who are special, they don't act like freshmen. They act like football players. And those are two guys that are examples of that. Far left. Cameron T. Robinson, the athletic. On the topic of freshmen, James Peebles and Sam got around the second half. You talk about how deep you need to be in this era of college football. But as you search for RB3, what did you see from them today? And what is their growth been like in this spring? Yeah, James really flashed early for me not knowing, again, kind of. Let's just take a little worry about what the background is. Where they're from, who they are. The this guy of this stars. That's guy of that stars. It's they're all bakai. So there's how they do it. I think James has got really good feel and vision. He can hit things. My thoughts, Sam, did some really good things today. TC is another guy who really came along during the spring. And we're constantly talking in our staff meetings about depth. We're very cognizant of the fact that the playoff situation has changed. So you have to develop that depth. Used to be maybe have a parent of spare.

3:41:58It was what everybody says. But I think you may have to have more than that. You're talking about 16, 17 games. You're really going to be tested that way. So I was really happy with how those young guys have come along here in the 15 training sessions that we've had. Oh, over here to the right. Tim May, the Tim May podcast. Thank you, Jerry. You have your own podcast? Yeah. These guys all had like a name next to their channel. Your name? Tim, right? OK. That's going to be cool. He must have some juice if you got your name in your podcast. Definitely. OK. By the way, it's not just the lunch last, the hot lunch last while I was. It's a hot lunch last. Yeah. Just too quick. He's number one. Do you feel compelled to let these quarterbacks know where they stand? You know, it's coming up Tuesday. You know what I mean? Yeah. You know, where does that go? I mean, in your mind. Yeah, we're all sit down as a staff and visit me on it. And then maybe he does an unbelievable job of I think all our players understand where they fit and what the picture is. And we'll give them our assessment. This isn't, you know, we're not going to come back. But we do it after every day.

3:42:59They know where they stood after practice. One, after two, after three, after four, we grade everything. They're getting constant feedback in terms of where we are. And then after 15, which we had today. But we can't do it unless you watch the film. And can really look at the things. Because you may see something, but you're on the sideline. You know, why did he make that decision? Well, I couldn't really see the field safety from where he was. OK. Now I understand why you made that decision. So, you know, what they'll have meetings with all our players. And that's always been the method. So this week during, you know, between Monday through Friday, we're all scheduled. No one's going on the road, he's recruiting until after that. But we're all applying meetings at every position. You know, offensive line, defensive line, linebacker safety. Is everybody's going to sit down with their position coaches and know where they fit and when we see them? Do you feel a pressure with the transfer portal looming? I mean, you've been a head coach for a long time. I mean, is that on your mind at TSD? Yeah, I think all the work you got. We're aware of it. And I don't think it's pressure. But I think you just open lines of communication

3:44:00and everybody knows what your evaluation was through the training sessions that we have. Guys, we've got to have real quick. Last two questions. Dan Hope and then Rob Aller. Feel like you need to have a starting quarterback named by and whatever the biggest things you're going to be looking for between now and then and determining who that guy's going to be. Well, between now and whatever then is, we're not allowed as coaches to go back out and practice with them. In college football, you get 15 training sessions in the off season. And then they'll go back to work and with Mick in the weight room and getting bigger, getting faster, getting stronger. They'll have organized activities themselves. And they do a really good job of that. But once there's a football out, like we're not allowed to be there to evaluate and even assess. So they're really from a football standpoint around their own until August. So you always want to do it earlier. But I also believe every time I've been involved in this is that it kind of happens organically and authentically because the players know.

3:45:03If you say, we decided we're going to be with Joe. And they all think it's Tim. They're in the locker room with them every day. Players understand who they'd feel is the guy. And most of the time, the decision is very obvious. And you just say, hey, this is where we are with it. But that timetable thing, I can't give you an exact timetable on that. Rob. Chip, you talk about Julian. But typically in your experience, you've done it again, like Tim said a long time. How long does it take for the game to slow down for a young QB? I think it depends on the individual. I've had some kids where early, you were like, wow. Marcus Murray, older, was like that. Remember vividly second practice. And he got to the fifth reading, the progression, and threw it out here in his big game. And I asked him, why I do it all? I asked why, because I just want to understand it. And I said, why did you do that?

3:46:03And he goes, I don't know what we call that defense. But there was like a lot of guys over there. And they didn't seem like there was anybody over there. But for him to process at that thought, he was right. And he came back the other day. Whether that was cover 60 of the day coach, I learned what you guys call the coverages. But it all happens differently. I've got guys that for two years seem like they're really struggling. And then the light bulb goes off and you know, whoa. They got it. So everybody has different learning styles. Our job in the evaluation process is to identify those learning styles. So they cognitive learn, they an auditory learner. Do they learn by field? Is it more a field guy, a more film guy? It's all different. And I think we have to keep poking and prodding. And for us as coaches, that's the challenge too, is what is their best learning style? And how can we convey it? Because education basically is just a transportation of knowledge. But it really doesn't matter what I know or what I know. It doesn't matter what they know. So that's always kind of what we're working on and studying

3:47:06and thinking about and kind of where we are and how much can they handle. And then how much is too much? Because this may be a great play. I agree 100%. But if you don't feel it's a good play, then why is it in? You know what I mean? And that's this whole feeling of process that we're all, they're learning us and we're learning them. So I have identities. So do coaches really? Running quarterbacks. That's something you've always sort of lean toward. Or is it year by year, case by case? What advantages do you like about? Because all your guys can run a little bit. Yeah, I think a running quarterback causes problems for defense. So when plays break down, the unscheduled plays, if you just go back to the recent Super Bowl, on that last drive, the two big plays were Mahomes Run. But Petra Mahomes is not a runner. Andy's not calling design quarterback runs for Pat. But when the defense matches up and plays two men and turns their back to the quarterback, well, maybe the best decision is to take off.

3:48:06You know, the second one he took out, I'm like, he may score. You know, a lot of guys go and they want a hook side. You know, and there's times where you have to understand if you do have a running quarterback, and we talk about the best ability is availability. You know, you're not low on your shoulder and taking people on, but we are always looking for quarterbacks that have the ability to run. We're not looking for running backs that can throw. You know, so you're not going to see us 20 times a game where running the quarterback. And there are people that run offensive styles and are really successful with it. But with this group we have right now, that's not. Now they can hurt you with the feet. We'll did it when he was at case date. You know, obviously Devon took off a couple times today. He took off a couple times today. Lincoln's a really, really good athlete. Julian can run, but you know, we're not calling design quarterback runs, you know, you're not going to see, you know, a tremendous amount of respect for Coach Hayes and the legacy that he left here. The straight T is about as far as we go. We are not going single wing. So we are not going to snap and run quarterback ISO and quarterback power. So, but it is a, it's another weapon, you know,

3:49:07and if it also keeps defense is honest, you know, if your defense event is going to continue to bend from the quarterback closing, he's on the edge and he's gaining first downs, well then the defensive end has to stay outside and contain the quarterback. Well, then we can run the ball up and hand the ball off. Sometimes in our running game, our quarterback really is a blocker. He's responsible for a defender, if the defender was cheating and fitting in on the run, well then his responsibility is to make the defense be honest. And that's really, Eric did that a couple times today. Now we had a block that safety was sticking his face in there. So we took off around the edge. What happens in next play, the defense is wider. Then what do we get to do? Hit and chance to hand the ball off to the running game. Coach, thank you so much for your time and thank you for being a buck eye. All right, thanks. It was definitely addressed here, you know, this pretty easy. I think Austin Saribel stepped up in a big way, you know, with Donnie being out. And then, you know, you know, Carson can play both guard and center, which is good. And, you know, we've actually, you know, Sen has done a nice job as well. But it was good to see Austin, you know,

3:50:07he moved from guard to tackle a couple times even with the ones he was in there battling his tail off. So I think we have built some depth there. But again, you know, we got to go play some games and see what that. Rob Aller. And what's the main thing you want to see out of here? Why are you talking to your back here? Yeah, you know, again, whether it's whatever happened last year or last year, but I know that the message to our offensive line is we want to play, we want to be the hardest playing offensive line in the country. Now we've got to play with technique. But at the end of the play, like knock the line of scrimmage back and play with your hair on fire. It's hard as you possibly can. There's a lot of goals that be playing in the offensive line. It's all a communication. There's a lot of things that have to get into place. I think Seth has done a nice job of communicating and understands the offense better now. He takes control up front and brings everybody together, which is great. But to me, like that's it. Now we could list a bunch of other things. But to me, we've got to move the line of scrimmage. We've got to be just playing with our hair on fire and knocking people back and playing physical. And that's the start to game. That's the end of the game. This is a destination spot for wide receiver. Do you know what I'm doing?

3:51:08Maybe not for a line. You see that definitely and how do you get over that? No, I don't see it that way at all. I think we'll see what we got this year. But I feel like we've got some really good young players in the system. I think that we should have the best offensive line in the country. That's the standard here. It has been for a long time. And so we'll keep pushing towards that this year. And I think everybody in that room will take the same thing. Tony Gerber. Brian, how's the situation? The real linebacker. You should have gone right now. I don't know if I'll see that going. Yeah. So Sonny has really stepped up and played well. He's made this transition from safety to linebacker very well. I think he did a nice job in the spring. But you could definitely see as he went into the summer and just bigger, stronger, being more comfortable closer to the line of scrimmage. It's different when you're closer to the line of scrimmage. He's doing a better job getting his hands on offense

3:52:11alignment and getting off of blocks. He's doing a better job with his hands. I think he understands the communication. The linebackers always have to be involved at the front. They can be involved and fit into the back end. He's doing that. I think he's looking forward to playing in a game and getting an idea of what it all looks like. But I can tell you in practice, he's playing fast, he's playing violent. And I think he's, you know, he does a nice job of taking the meeting to the field, being very intentional about his work, but playing really hard. He's the number one unit. Yeah, I haven't talked to Jim because, you know, we'll make that final decision here over the weekend. But he's certainly the leader in the club bus. Hey, Mike. Can you tell Ryan, I mean, Seth McLaughlin, can tell he's been there, done that. Is he projected that to the offensive line? You're still, when I'm safe, I'm a leadership stand going to be a grown man. Yes. How does that just come up? How does that show up? A bunch of ways. It just poised. It's not getting rattled when, you know, coach parks at you.

3:53:12It's, you know, OK, I got this. Let me get it under control. It's seeing something in practice and being able to adjust on the move. It's being prepared when you walk on the field. It's recognizing how hard you have to play at the position. It's kind of all of those things into one. But he's got great communication up front. He talks to the guys. He's moving quickly in there. And when you have experience like he has, you know, the game seems to slow down at times yet. He seems to be playing it off. You got a fast lover. Coach Bensohova. I see a lot of people. It was a point where you got a black stripe off. And I feel like you took a step in the right direction. When you come in in the summer, it is very difficult to get on the field, especially early in the season. Whether he does or not, I will see.

3:54:13But if he continues to practice, the way that he's been practicing, then he'll give himself a chance to be in the rotation midway through the season or later in the season, which is similar to some of the go-ah to see everything back before. You've seen some of those guys get some reps really in the season, but then make an impact later in the season. I think that's probably more his path right now now. It shows up and starts doing great. And we'll give him the reps he deserves, or like Jeremiah is in a different situation because he came in here in January, and he was a little bit ahead. Anybody who comes in and January to me, I don't look at them as a freshman anymore. They've been here during the program. And we expect them to contribute. I'm still in there, right there.

3:55:16I'm talking and communicating. But in the scrimmages we've had, it's been offense for his defense. So I've mostly been on the offensive side still kind of going through all those types of things. And there's a lot to work through this year, just with the play clock. And then to want to mean that, is close to play a communication inside of 15 goes off. There's a lot of things that go on there. We don't really get notification on that. So I'm trying to just help chip with that so communication that way, personnel. But I'm going to do very much involve with special teams. I think with the two minute warning, there's some strategic things that are going to go on again and again that I have to really be involved with. But to your point, just overall, just looking guys in the eye and making sure that, you know, they have to right look in their eye, that they understand, you know, with the situation, what's going on in the game. You know, I think that happens sometimes with young players, you know, they just like playing the next play. And that's not just how it works. We'll get to win the situations. And so all those things will come into play

3:56:17and make an in game adjustments, you know, be involved with all three phases, you know, watching the game in a tab with the try to identify what happened in the last series. I think all those things will be happening. Right now, Nick is going to be the starter. And you know, that competition going for next week, but right now, as we head into the weekend, he is the starter and the plan is ready to be the first hunter to go up in the go inside of him. Exactly. He's got a strong leg. He's made it a good transition into the country, but also just playing, you know, football and not Australian football, which is very, very different. The snap to kick has really improved. You know, that was one thing as he's a taller guy. So the ball has to get out of his, you know, get off his foot faster. I think he's done that his hang time has been good.

3:57:18And he's been more consistent. You'll see, you know, he'll kick a few, but just go right out of the stadium. And he just got a strong, strong leg. So we're looking for that consistency. He's shown that here most recently. So he's got the upper hand right now. And last question, Jeremy Bergen. Well, Ryan, I don't know if it's because Will maybe took a little bit longer to make a decision in December than some of the other top of the line quarterback who was dead or because maybe there was a thought he wasn't going to be the starter. It kind of stayed this year, but it seems like people have viewed him kind of as a game manager type of quarterback. After eight months with him, where do you see his ceiling? What, what, what is Will's special trait to you? And where do you see him take himself? I see a bunch of traits there. I think the first trait is size. He can stand in the pocket and he's strong. So I mean, that's the first thing he noticed about him. Again, whether it's standing in the pocket with poise, I think that's another trait that he has. That's excellent. He, he feels the rush, but he stands right in there.

3:58:20I think the next trait is just, you know, his top end speed. And he can run 22 miles an hour at that size, which, there's not a lot of guys who can do that. So I think that's the extraordinary trait. And that would, I would say his overall leadership command and the huddle is, is another, you know, something that he's, he's really, you know, grown into in the last few months when he's been here. And then his accuracy, he's been very accurate since he's been here. And when he knows what's going on and he can't, to spell what's happening, I mean, it looks right. Just feel it. And, and he can hurt you, you know, a bunch of different ways. So, yeah, his ceiling, that's, that's going to be kind of, you know, up to how he plays his season. But, you know, I see a player who has a lot of great skills that, you know, translates well to the next level. So, we'll see. But I know his first focus is on winning games around here. Coach, thank you very much. You're welcome. Coach, you have Takeer, Symbola. And the goal line and Donovan Jackson.

3:59:22I'm excited. I mean, you have nerves naturally. So, the answer first come play that was good. I was just rolling. Also, it was a weird thing for a first start. The first player in the whole state was also the first start. Yeah. You, yeah. It's, but like, I prepared well. And camp and practice all week. And I was, I was ready. I have two multi-year starters. I did a lot. I mean, I could ask them, hey, what we got here, but, you know, I was prepared well. I mean, I was telling Jimmy and said, it's like, hey, we, we're going to block through it. I'll be emotional. I was just, as a guy from Ohio, what does it mean to start it? It was always my dream to come here and play and start. And having that played me. I was going to keep going, keep building those days, keep building. What a much younger Austin, though, you do it.

4:00:24You can also use it as a player. No, not really. I don't think even I told my life. I asked my younger self, even committed. I wouldn't believe that now I have a couple of starts. Awesome. Has this happened faster than you? I think we're going to come here with players. I guess you're technically a sophomore. No, I knew that year two. I was going to see you some playing time. Now starting week one, year two, I didn't see that, but like I was ready in spring ball. I knew I was going to play some soft games. What does it mean to you to not only get the opportunities to play, but to like you play well enough now. Coaching staff trust you. Right there. Whatever situation. I'm going to earn that. So where are we going to get to? I guess it shows like my preparation, my hard work and just everything I put into this. And I just finally show up on a field. There are moments, the soft season, the end of the spring.

4:01:25And I'm going to realize that you could play at this high level. I was with the ones. You know, if you knew you'd get to. Yeah, but definitely was in a training camp. I mean, blocking highly can tie every day. Like it feels, it feels a lot of confidence in doing it well and not like getting balled or anything. So there's defensive tag wasn't that. Hero and Jason more in Taiwan. All those guys. Pretty much anyone on the deepened line gets. It's all time so. And came back as well. So yeah. I'm. A lot of. I would more collected how. I'm a great. How much can he help you? He helped me a lot. And I'm proud that he's our starting center. Not someone else's, but. I mean, he's like the captain of the line. He's another voice on the line. With guys like Josh Fryer, Josh Simmons, Donnie and Tiger. That means another voice and another captain.

4:02:25Look, ways of having. And I'm with this much experience. Help. Yeah, a lot. You can tell you like before the play was going on. Like how to. Black someone like we need to do. I'm like. That's a lot. Tiger talking about how calm he is. How much does that. You have a guy who's kind of been there. It makes us. Us more calm. Like especially me and Dave. That's our first start. So like we were up here. What. What said like he brought us down. I mean, we were like five. Like our emotions weren't high. We were so in. Is that like something he tells you? Is that something you pick up on by how he's acting? How do you kind of mean sense what he's trying to say? How he's acting and what. I mean him when we're on the side of him. Both Josh Donney, like he was telling us like a cool like we got it. But it's pretty much like everyone. Old group. How much do that? As a first time starter, how much of the end that?

4:03:25Me a lot. That was my first time ever using high pets. We didn't use the iPads in high school. But. I mean, you can. So like try to remember the defense. You can just come on a silent and bring up. I'm really glad. I. Probably the first or second. But after that, I thought we'd say all right. And so. Awesome. Thank you very much. Thanks for all your work. That's me. I probably. Settle again to go. That's um, I want to say. Maybe I don't know, but I mean when I first heard you got the job, I was really excited because I'm one of those guys who's. I can run with the tempo. You know, I mean I'm. I'm playing basketball all my for the set up football. And I feel like. Just the fast pace often. So we're running. It really fits the guys we have right now, I'm really excited for that. I know you can throw a football at 65 yards. But can you kick a football 75 yards like Lincoln? No. Probably. Lincoln, what was your question? How is your room at the.

4:04:25He's a blessing, man. I can't complain. He's a great guy. What's the name? His name is Lincoln. He knows. Oh, he's cleaner. I think we're both really clean. That's why we kind of picked each other's roomies because we're very clean and we don't like our rooms really messy. Well, it's true though. It's true. It's a true. They're both pretty clean. Luke, are you still a cross training in Tagel some or if you just been all guard this break? Oh, so far I've been all guard. Um, I really don't know. Like I said, I'm taking it practice. I practice. I could end up being back attack like that and I'm just really focused in on this past practice and the next thing. Yeah. Oh, that mean a lot. You know, you put a lot of work in to play here. It's been a dream just for being an Ohio kid. I'm from Ohio kids perspective. I mean, that's the biggest switch possible out. I would say that's going to be pretty cool. What was it like last year at first game getting on the field for the first time?

4:05:27It's going to be a weird answer, but it feels like I was playing a game yet. That made sense. I was pretty locked in. I felt like just no anxiousness, no stress, no nothing. I just went in that first game. I was like, shoot out here now. It's time to roll. You know, it didn't really hit me. I was like, it didn't even hit me after. I was like, what would you feel doing this like getting out there at any end? I was like, honestly, I don't know. I felt less nervous that I didn't high school and it makes no sense. What is it? What have you seen in the middle of that last game? A lot. I mean, I'm learning from Josh Ann Austin. I think, prior to my biggest role model series, my big brother, my first major. I'm up for the end. I don't want to stay up to the end. Okay. Yeah, no. Yeah, yeah. So, yeah, for the end of Austin, those are my guys, man. I mean, even Miles too. I mean, all three of them. Those are my roommates and they're progressing every day as well. And I'm excited to see where they can get to. I'm excited to plan and feel with them. Oh, yeah, he's been really helpful. You know, just keeping my mind just settled and straightforward on the next play.

4:06:34That's a great question. Like I said, I mean, I just need to take consistent in my work. I think that's the biggest thing for me is just to take consistent and worry about the next play. I think it's actually not those big ones. You guys started turning out. It's handplugs here. But did it beat off each other? Absolutely. I mean, when you see defense or. And you see a difference to start arguing with each other and things like that. I mean, that makes it a lot easier. You know, I have those 10-11 play drops. What was that like? This was what we should be. It started feeling like you guys were doing an outstanding play. You were playing on a good play, good mouthhold. They think that was the same. I mean, it feels good to rip off these runs because I mean, we put them so much work on those. And practice and, you know, seeing a product that had worked. Tech, reserve sense that just off its line, why does this young prepare this week? We've done Jonathan back in there. They've done a whole first time really. This season. You know, it's not particularly in Austin.

4:07:36It's just more of Jonathan Jackson, great season all-American, etc. I don't mean join the group, you know. Jonathan Jackson is a very good football player, man. When he's on the field, he makes his presence tough. I mean, we've all been training. I'm like, if there's no tomorrow, just go through and you know, okay. It's him, we know it can be. Yeah, there's seat to be. There was a sense of watching you guys last week. You're even more of a force. It felt like watching you guys. Maybe even if you feel like that. Yeah, I mean, we put in the work during practice. We practice really hard. Coach, they really challenge us to practice hard. Positions, coaches really challenge us to practice hard. I was just a result of it. When it's growing like that, what does it feel like being in the mix? It's a long time. It's us. When you work hard for something and you're able to see like what comes out of it, like that's, there's no better feeling in there. You know, I mean, I was really funny to see.

4:08:49What has Seth been watching you guys for the first of the games? What's it been like playing X&M for the last two? You know, he's really calm and stormy. You never see real panic and having a guy like that messier. You know, you're having really played as many men as the snaps. There's no one outside of the rest of my left and right. For Seth, you know, those guys, they do so much for this offensive line. People talk about his intelligence really kind of showing up in the film room and on the field. Where have you noticed that intelligence and how has that helped you? Yeah, like I said, and crunched him, you know, when things aren't exactly looking like how we practice it, you know, having a guy like that that will slow down. We'll do this, this, this, and then we execute having a guy like that like this. There's none better than that.

4:09:53What's your role? What's your role? What's my favorite cake? Right brother. Uh-huh, and now that. I almost came back with a couple of sunigas and more. Take a look at it, Marshall. They got a couple guys with a deep inside of it that has big tin bodice. Absolutely. What do you see when you look at their tape and see 13, 7, a couple of those guys have been pretty big. Yeah, those guys there, they're real players. They're real players. You can sell their coach well. You can sell them. They go hard, you know, they're real players over there. We've been practicing to the best of our abilities, you know, and respectful. And I'm prepared for that. You see, they made your gene technology last year. They're different. They take the lead. Yeah, they play a good ball over there and, you know, their defense plays hard.

4:10:59They challenge teams, you know, sometimes they might be overlooked and they still challenge teams. You can sell they come out there with the mentality like, no matter who's in front of us or when it won't happen. I mean, the actions right there right in front of you right now, which is kind of a good thing and kind of a bad thing. You should shift off the rest, you know, hitting back in it inside. You talking to your fans and you know, that's awesome. Yeah, I mean, I hear from Paris every once in a while trying to not sit by there. I'm so much better. It's always it's always good to hear from guy like that guys like the one even Matt Jones would turn him back. All right, Tiger, thank you. Appreciate it. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Then for this year, just be able to confront that job. No, no skill. Thank you.

4:12:00Thank you. I think it's a lot of things. I wait my height, this is more regard height, but I'm faster my feet and I'm just saying that you need to kind of sometimes like basketball or want to be on that just like defend. But you know, you're going to stay in the stage where you're somewhere. Exactly. Yeah, that's a great question. I mean, I feel like these two can answer that for the year right now. I think KK here. I can answer that. I don't know what to say about that. What do you guys think? Well, I don't know what to say about that. What do you guys think about that? I don't know. I don't know. I go to the age of a day. This man is strong. Ready? I'm talking about like, you have the basketball here. You know, you can't just do what things I mean. He's the kind of really fast man. Just the whole way I'm sure he's the kind. And he got the wrist ready. He doesn't give up on a play. And like you said, he's going to go in and watch the film. He's going to hit the day and then you can see the hundred feet.

4:13:00And then come back this one. So now that this guy is considered proven at the game. Here, can he respond well? Well, I'll be in the middle. He's something like a coach, man. He's something like a coach. Chip Kelly's in full exchange. Your mind about maybe like the idea of tackle versus dark. Because obviously his offensive predilection was for like, yeah, offensive blind play. And when did it have seen the partly settling in the guard? That's um, I want to say maybe I don't know. But I mean, when I'm pretty sure you got the job, I was really excited because I'm one of those guys who's the tempo. I can run with the tempo. You know what I mean? I'm playing basketball all life in the set of football. And I feel like just the fast pace often. So we're running really fits the guys we have right now. I'm really excited for that. I know you can throw for ball like 65 yards, but can you kick it for ball 75 yards and blink it? I'll tell me a question. Lincoln, what was your question? How is your, uh, your roommate at the game? He's a blessing, man. I can't complain.

4:14:00He's a great guy. What's the name? His name's Lincoln. Teen Hoes. Oh, he's cleaner. I think we're both really clean. That's why we kind of pick each other's roommates because we're very clean. And we don't like our burdens really messy. That's true though. It's true. They're both pretty clean. Luke, are you still cross training at TACO? Some or if you just been all guard this break? Oh, so far I've been all guard. I really don't know. Like I said, I'm taking it practice by practice. I could end up being back at TACO. I could not, but you know, I'm just really focused in on this past practice and the next one is some. You've got to be able to do it. Yeah. Oh, that mean a lot. You know, you put a lot of work in to play here. And it's been a dream just from being in Ohio kid. It's from a high-o'-kits perspective. I mean, that's the biggest wish possible. I would say that's going to be pretty cool. What was it like to last year at first game getting on the field for the first time? It didn't feel like, this is going to be a weird answer, but it feels like I was playing a game that made sense.

4:15:04I was pretty locked in. I felt like just no anxiousness, no stress, no nothing really. I just went in that first game. I was like, shoot out of here now. It's time to roll. You know, it didn't really hit me. I was like, it didn't even hit me after. I was like, what would you feel there? And if I get out there at Indiana, I just like, honestly, I don't know. I felt less nervous than I didn't high school and it makes no sense. What is the reason that you're playing this game? What is it? What did you see in the back of the stack? It was just a shame. Yeah. A lot. I mean, I'm learning from Josh and Austin. I think Friars is one of my biggest role models here. He's my bigger brother in my first game. What's up, Padilla? I don't know. This is the deal. Okay. No. Yeah, yeah. So, yeah, Padilla and Austin, those are my guys, man. I mean, even Miles too. I mean, all three of them. Those are my roommates and they're progressing every day as well on. And I'm excited to see where they can get to. I'm excited to play on the field with them. Oh, yeah. You know, it's been really helpful. You know, just keep in my mind. Just settled and straightforward on the next play. What is the biggest step? It's a great question.

4:16:06Like I said, I mean, I just need to stay consistent in my work, I think. That's the biggest thing for me is just staying consistent and worry about the next play. It's my game. And I was like, whoa, I never had that happen. No other school, like just Ohio State field can't win. And I was like, wow, that's crazy. Do you like, I mean, you're quiet, but also do you like that? Do you want everything that comes to mind? I do, but at the same time, I don't just like to be a normal person. I don't really like to. What's going on in the field? Are you a showman? I mean, how does he describe this kind of like your art form? Yeah, I mean, yeah, I want to feel I'm a little bit more chipier a little bit, but sometimes I still require them to. What's the competitive part of you? What did that point that you know to set about yourself? Oh, I've been having that. I mean, since I was like eight, nine years old, you haven't, you mean, just high-end, house rate, just to be competitive. That's the reason why I chose to come to Ohio State. Just to compete each and every day, I guess to go against the best DB group in the country.

4:17:06That's all I would say is you've been enhanced in the last several months. I mean, you want to get in the notes and then, then sell Perk, etc. Oh, yeah, for sure. Just going to get into the best two DBs in the country. I mean, that's the reason I came here. Just going to get God just going to make me better each and every day. Yesterday, you were in the fourth downplay in the red zone. Yeah. Yeah. You just said work. And then two plays later, you call world. Yeah. You're going to say work better. I said, I said, well, he said, when he defed little boy, he said, I'm here. I said, okay, I'm going to be back. And that's something to be back. Then when I'm going to be to play, I just walked off. That's it. When you're in the park, the ball will be saved. I said, I told you I'm coming back, right? You're back. What's it like to be back to the car now, say, you're back now. You're back. It feels great just us doing a fair together. We've got to make a lot of plays this year. What's the biggest game you've ever been learning about over time? I learned a lot, especially from Cardinal, because we both play outside. So, me just learning from him and the things he learned, he just teaching me.

4:18:09And he was behind Mar, and stuff like that. So, he just teaching me the game for sure. What specifically you got better at that in time compared to what you've heard Scott. I said my footwork. That's the biggest game. My coach, I was looking at that's one thing I need to get better on. So, I mean, I just worked on that in all seasons and just got better over time. What can still be your work ethic in here? It's still my work at the end. I mean, just, I really don't know. I can't really answer that. But it just, it's just in me. Like, I just want to work. That's one thing. I think I say, I get it from my dad. My dad really the reason why I worked so hard, because since I was like eight years old, he just wanted me to just work and be the best at what I do. So, I mean, I really, I said, get from my dad. I actually like, I'm trying to do it on my own. Yeah, yeah, yeah, sitting. How close did you come to? I wasn't, I wasn't sweeping out of, I don't know why. I couldn't make it to see my kids that I was a black guy.

4:19:09And that's it. How did your dad set me to? He said the biggest example. I mean, just, I ain't go say it was only just my dad. It was, I mean, I have a cousin named, you know, it's very pretty fun to see how to see how. So I was, I looked up to him as well. I mean, seeing what he was doing at West Virginia, was taking Austin and Steadman Bayley. So I mean, he was a motivation for me. And just old the guys that grew up before me and I'm minding the guarders area, a brow area for sure. I mean, just looking at those guys, guys like, I say Brandon and us for sure, he was class ahead of me. So I seen things he was doing in eighth grade. And I was just like, whoa, I mean, that's something I want to do. What do you know about the expectations for you? I mean, I Chris Carter on my podcast team, which is actually the, it gets you to be a factor from the first place, first day, first game, et cetera. Those are big expectations. Do you have bracelets? I really don't. I mean, I know it's big, especially for me because, you know, no one playing the country coming in and all the hype around me. So, I mean, I just try to block out all that stuff and just focus on the main thing,

4:20:10just the team and I receive a room and a locker room and know just first game come. If I don't, you know, see the expectations that you have for me. I mean, I don't really care. I just want to go out there and win a game. I'm much of a confident for you. When people like Chris Carter, Marvin Harrison Jr. are saying, this guy can be the next favorite of Ohio State. I mean, it's something great. I mean, I just got to go out there on the field and just show you guys that I could beat it. That's probably the greatest, great Ohio State receiver to come through here. I mean, it's a blessing and know how that, but I mean, I got to go out there and play and show you guys. What does it mean to start on by that? It means a lot for me to be, was it the first freshman? Yeah, I mean, just, that's a blessing for me for sure. Just, you know, shows all the hard work that I put in on the way to the way to the room. What is your majority come up with? My dad really, I mean, the maturity, you know, just be older than,

4:21:11I don't ask my age, I go through my age. I mean, a lot of people tell me that I don't ask my age, I'm way, I'm way beyond my years. I mean, just, you just got to be mature and, you know, don't add like a kid. What is the couple more questions for Jeremy? What is it about 50-50? 70-30. What is your name? I'm a 10. It's just, you know, when I see a 50-50 ball, I mean, just, I just think it's, I gotta make the play. And it's on me, you know, matter how the ball is, if it's a bad ball, I just feel like, I gotta make that play, no matter what the certain sense of this, you know, matter if it's a bad ball. I feel like the ball is mine, no matter who I'm fronting me or no, no matter. What is it about getting between the ball and the fender come from? I mean, that talent sets you apart in my opinion a lot of ways. Do you always have that net? Oh, yeah, I did. Always had that net, because I was like, since I started to play with you right, like eight year, nine years old, I just found the way to, you know, make sure that ball is mine when it's in the air. And I just, I always find the way, the way to make my quarterback look good.

4:22:12Can you say that I got a good look? I already talked about it a lot, and I can't find it, I can't say, go Howard's looking more, picking Soul, more comfort, what do you say? Oh, yeah, for sure. He definitely made a big jump from in the spring. I like his confidence. He's starting to talk more, talk a lot of mess on the field. And I like that about my quarterback, but I love quarterback, so about the talk. You know, just get around his players and make him feel good about it, so. He talked on the field, you know, just, you just say a lot of stuff, I can't say, but he'll talk for sure. Okay, Jeremiah, thank you very much. Thank you guys. It was on me, my split was two, he wanted me to come, my split down. So that was, that was on me, that wasn't a good one. The result of that play is silence, clear that will the offense, recognize your single, up one on one, press man, they're willing to take that shot to you every time. Were you expecting to have this bigger role in the offense this early?

4:23:14Not at all, not at all. Just coming in, you know, just a lot of you'll stay and just all the receivers that been here, and I was here before I got here, so I did not have no expectation that was having the role that I had right now. So I mean, I just get all the things they got and they would have been this position right now. So real to you then, to be putting up kind of numbers you already have. Oh yes, for sure. I mean, but no job, not finished it, I said to me, finished him. What does this have on the trust? He tells me a lot, each and every day that you know, single, single covers, one on one, going to you don't matter who or you don't matter, just throwing it up, you know, it's good, I just got to make a play. I was up to you realize that you're pressing the other thing. Was there a moment of the spring or this, you drink camp or? I say, I say fall camp. That's really when he was just trusting me, just throwing it up and I'm just going to go get it. Yeah, I'm the place that they would say you said you're supposed to see why? Yeah, to why. Yeah. I should have cut my spit.

4:24:15Now I think I was, you know, like bottom of the numbers, I should have been like numbers plus, numbers plus two, I believe. Yeah, something like that. That's the reason why he just played over top. That's just an obsession. I think there are numbers he played, the history of our harsh moment on Ohio State. This is the goal coach for the program. You feel like a normal parchment? I mean, you're an exceptional freshman for the State of America. Yeah. National in the wild. I mean, I love it. I still feel like I'm just a regular freshman, but you know, a lot of people say I'm not, but I mean, just the role that I have just coming in is just, it's been a blessing. I just can't think, uh, can't say it's on me, it's on God and just the coaches for Justin, me to ever put a freshman out there and just to go out there and make plays and just build out. You're hearing from your teammates and the golf and then you, but you said you didn't expect to have playing time. You came in.

4:25:15So what did you actually expect? How much do you think you would have gotten? Not that much because you know, you got you got a card. They'll take you got make up Google. I came back. You got bringing in that big, up your, uh, Justin ballot. Uh, all of them guys. So really my mentality of just coming in just working, learning and just, you know, play special teams and make plays on special teams. I love my mentality was. You expect this to be different. Big ten. Yeah. What do you expect to be different? Um, I mean, just watching them. They, uh, we've been attending the last three teams in place. So I mean, it's going to be a better team that has last couple years that, um, we played a higher state play them as we could they said. So I mean, it's going to be a good game. You got to go to a higher state as always better be. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Oh, yeah, for sure. We hungry right now. I can see everybody. I was everybody in office office along quarterback. Well, how are we receiving? We definitely hungry for sure. We're ready to go out there and has a dinner and just put on the show.

4:26:16Austin Warren, the podcast. Should you? I have to set it up. What would it know you more? Being interfered with not getting the call or not being able to catch you? I say be able not to make the catch anyway. Uh, I feel like everybody's throwing me. I have to catch it no matter how different the army or not. I just feel like I have to make a play no matter what. Um, I mean, I play Saturday. I feel like I could have caught it, but you know, it was a passing difference, but it touched my hands. I should have caught it. Dan, hold on. Worrier. Jeremiah, there's a lot of discourse from fans this week about you not winning the Sean Alexander freshman year award. Just what's your thoughts on that? Uh, I mean, me calling is a great player as well. I mean, I can't really not kill. Um, no, Sean is a great guy. I talked to him two weeks ago. It's a great guy. I learned a lot of things from him outside of football as well. So I mean, I really can't focus on that. I'm just worried about beating Oregon and just going out there to pass a deal and just putting on the show. And what else is question? Tom Moore, fuck, I'm not.

4:27:16You mentioned getting bragging. It's like Michigan. He's that frustrating. We've seen that from the father teams. Yeah. Is that frustrating? Is that, you know, you and it feels like you always think you're open or you still open when you're bragging? Oh, yeah, for sure. I feel like I'm still over no matter if I'm bragging or not. Um, I mean, they just came out with a good game plan to break it me and a mecha. And, you know, uh, me just, you know, things didn't go as planned as we thought it would, but we just got to keep moving on and just move forward. As I was saying, uh, Steven, how I did 24 seven sport. Did you mind the two touchdown plays that you had with Will Howard? How many times do you think you guys rep that to get, you know, those were perfect throws, perfect patterns. And you beat your guy off the line of scrimmage. Just how many times do you think and what does it take to perfect that? I think we read the least. I don't know how many times and practice over the weeks that we had off. Um, I mean, just came down to, you know, they press me. We, we taking a shot. That's what they told me, uh, the week we was off. And he told me her before the game in the locker room, I just got to get you a shot.

4:28:17And that's what he did. And I just made a play. The first game to get started and just how tough was that challenge against their secondary? I know you have to get the end of the game, but you guys made plays all day long against them. Just what, what's your thought about the challenge? Those guys gave me a good. I say the challenge is going to be, you know, a good challenge. They have some great global guys there. Jabbar Muhammad number seven, uh, Nikari, uh, the other corner of my nine over there. A great global guys. Um, I mean, probably the best we go see all year for sure. Um, we just got a good name. You know, bio, Ohio State. That's all Tony. You're not open. Uh, uh, probably wouldn't hold a team on me. I should say, uh, uh, I mean, I'm always open for, to me, for sure. Um, let me just, you know, throw the ball in my area. I'm going to find a way to make a play as I was. That one. Christ. You know, some of the great athletes that, you know, got challenged and you aspire to be like, I guess,

4:29:17where's that confidence kind of come from for you? How long have you had that confidence that, you know, you have the ability to be, you know, one of the greatest in this sport? Uh, I mean, a lot of people tell me that I'm going to be great at what I do. Um, since I was about, um, going into high school, a lot of people tell me that, um, me just, you know, football is all I know. And that's all I really want to do. Like I live, breathe, sleep football. Like that's all I really care about. Don't care about everything outside of football. Like football is all I know. And I just want to play football rest of my life. And for homework, let him and her off. I don't know if you have a vote or tried to collect on some of those defaults throughout the year. You'll be able to finally do those in that moment. Kind of carried that forward. Was it the same other way that you had to continue to progress? Um, I mean, just, you know, the weeks that we had all, we were just working on deep, deep shots, uh, cause they tell us, uh, in meetings that we have, uh, we got to take shots down, feel, um, we just got to connect on them. And, you know, will tell me before, uh, before the games, like I said, um, you just got to throw the ball out there and just give me a chance.

4:30:21You can play for you. That's what I, that's what he told me. And I just got to make a play for him. Adam, can you know, we can all joke, we can all talk about the expectations and the start of this become, you know, you were just 13 games. How do you handle that? I mean, just a freshman, how do you take all these expectations? Know when you step on the field that you're always open and still go out there and fly? Uh, mean, expectations. I mean, I can't know how you stay for a reason. That's what I wanted. Um, when it be challenged, I wanted the expectation, uh, I mean, Coach Hotline just helped me, uh, throughout the whole year, just preparing me for each game, each week, uh, a mecha, buka, uh, cardinal tape, Brendan, and it's really the whole receiver on just helped me, uh, stuff I don't really know about, uh, it just helped me throughout the whole week. You know, I can't really say it's all on me because my talent is, but they really been a big part of the reason I'm having the season that I'm having for sure. Uh, Andrew Gill, what do you mean, that kind of, Jeremiah, over a thousand years, professional freshman, when you first year, when you look back at your freshman year, what was the most important about adjusting to the college game?

4:31:27What was the part that you had, you know, the hardest part about trying to train this one? Uh, learning that playbook. Uh, I playbook is something else, uh, just coming in, uh, spring ball, uh, mecha's new plays in every week. I'm like, well, what is this? Like this new plays every day in Coach Hotline, like, you, you go, you go to be good. Uh, we got no summer fall camp. You go to be great. So, I mean, just, you know, that said, that's definitely what's the hardest part to learn the playbook and a lot of other things. How long have you been trying to get that down pad? How long have you been taking these days? I'm pretty sure I got it down pad right now, but, uh, net season, I really want to learn everything, the HZ, uh, yeah, I really want to learn everything in the playbook for next year, for sure. That might be 24-7 sports. You mentioned how many guys it might take because you do not feel as much. So when you are one-on-one, and Will's talking about what EC's, you mean one-on-one? What is going through your mind as you wind up and realize there's one guy covering.

4:32:28Win. That's all I could say. I mean, as a Coach Hotline, uh, we do something like in a hotel, Friday night before the year, he asked me like a question, like, you get one-on-one, something like that. He asked me, uh, what do you do? I say win. And everybody just started laughing. I don't know where I be like. It's just true. Like, you got a win. You're one-on-one. Uh, about us. Um, are you going to the right, Bill Landis? Share my energy around something and send a seed to the point where you get a couple matchups against linebackers. Yeah. What goes through your mind when you find yourself matched up against a linebacker. Uh, I just started laughing in my head a little bit. Um, I mean, linebackers can't really cover receivers like that. So I just know like it's most likely to be open. Um, but you know, they just try to move around a lot because you know, people try to bracket me when I'm outside just alone by myself. So that's why they're moving me around a lot. Or less. Jerma, you mentioned the most difficult part of your freshman campaign has been learning the playbook. What has been the best part so far?

4:33:29I was going to rub off on people eventually. Um, and I would also say that, you know, you kind of have to understand who you're talking to. And people, certain stuff makes different people tick. So you've got to kind of know your guys. You know, if you got to get harder on somebody to make them go or if you got to kind of relate to them, you know, pull them aside, I haven't talked. So I think that all goes into leadership and you have to be able to that has to be a skill that you have to be able to do. How much coach day now is it true coach? You know, he's given political and duties. What's been different about you? I want to say, you know, too much has necessarily changed, but you can tell the instrument trust and coach Kelly. I'm in what he's what he's going to do in the kind of the schemes and everything that he's brought into our program. So the fact that, you know, he has such confidence in him and his play call on your ability makes us tremendously confident. So coach days has always been coached to be and continue to stay that way. But I'm glad he's able to focus more on what he needs to focus on.

4:34:29He's kind of a field general in a sense, kind of a quarterback on that side. A lot of people may think just, you know, the Mike linebacker, we have Cody Simon who does that as well. But Caleb's kind of that for our secondary, kind of make sure things are clicking on all cylinders. And he's just a very cerebral kid, very smart. And he's able to kind of take control of the defense. So make the right calls, make the right checks. So he's definitely annoying for the office to deal with, but it makes us better. Is that the case? In fact, do you have any way where you are? Do you have a way to do that? I would say in fact, the entire offense. It's not like, you know, we're not oblivious to the fact of the caliber player he is, but, you know, as an offense, you come out and you expect to execute on anybody who's lined up a question. Thank you for your first catch. Yeah, I never really thought about it like that, but we definitely come a long way since my freshman year.

4:35:30Thanks for the Lord. They've come these years and come ahead and allow me to, you know, develop into the person that I am now. But so, you know, coming full circle, it is really surreal moments of being my senior year apprentice. You know, the key blog on my first freshman is so it's really cool. I remember Kyle getting yelled at. He was a ball. He was not supposed to throw. And I also remember getting pushed out at like the one or two year online. So that's kind of a bittersweet memory, but it was a great memory. I mean, I have to say yes. If I don't think I should explore it, I don't think I should be playing football. What kind of analysis? I don't really see how long it's going to take to hear you write any questions. Who's up? Yeah, my only came in. He kind of has all the intangibles ever received. You can tell he just loves the game the way he goes about his business. He runs every route to perfection. He's a very cerebral kid. And every time he gets on the field, he expects perfection. So he's just got to continue to develop, continue to work. And I'm really excited to see what he's able to do for us.

4:36:31I'm like, how much do you seem to recognize me? I roll over camp to be able to cook for this opportunity starting Saturday? Yeah, I think it's no secret that he has all the physical capabilities that you would want or receive at really any position. He could play any position on the football field with his athletic ability. But so a lot of it for him was putting together the mental piece of the game. Not just understanding what he has on a specific play, but the whole concept. Understanding defense and all that type of stuff. So there's nothing really that can get you ready for that moment for your first nap in college because it is different than high school. But once you get acclimated and gets used to it, I don't know. I have no doubts it's going to take off for us and do too many things. And how do you seem to continue to bring the team together? Yeah, I mean, it's been a huge part of everything that we've done. Been a huge part of a lot of the reasons why the teams came back and everything like that. So we have a team by the study that we continue to do and continue to grow. I'm kind of just pre-sistered with the other gospel, the other guys on the team. And it's definitely permeated throughout the team throughout the years because, you know,

4:37:31looking back a couple of years ago, there wasn't that many people on the team heavily into their faith. And along came a couple of special people who really changed the time and the time of our program. But, you know, the Bible says one man plans and the other man watches. But God ultimately brings the increase. So we're just trying our best to stay on the beat and so Lord, and he's done tremendous things. Who does choose special people in the country? I'll say kind of the founders. I'll say of the team's faith. We're definitely master team for one Cameron Bab and Xavier Johnson. So those guys. What do you view as your responsibility as captain? Really, what I view my responsibility as a captain is just as a person in general, is to push everybody closer to Christ. And, you know, by doing that, I try to walk as close to Christ as I can myself. I'm kind of lead that example and be that life where people look up to. And I think all the basic principles that are found in the Bible in the New Yorkshire and the University of Christ, we naturally make you a better leader, a better person, better football player in the sense.

4:38:31So I just try my best to anyway him. Yeah, I mean, we have specific goals going into every single week. Some of our goals for this week is, you know, things can get sloppy in the week one. You see it all across the country. You know, false stars penalty is all these types of stuff. So we're really just trying to be clean. Go out there, play a fast, complete football game, clicking on and firing on all of the cylinders. So by no means are underestimating it and you opponent, we go out there on the field every Saturday, expecting to pull out whoever lines up the cost for us. So that's just our mentality. So we're going to hold true to that.

4:39:37Yeah, very, very unseries guy, very funny guy kind of lines the room when he walking, when he walks in. And he's just, he's a true joy to be around. You can kind of throw will into any setting and he's going to get along with everybody there. So definitely up the team chemistry locker room. We love having him around. So we're super glad he's part of this team. A line they were getting back there, looked for him and took up that. And we also expected them to play, oh, come out with their edge. We like, we knew that they were in the team that gave it the honor. Like you mentioned, there was some past protect on the shoes of Rod and some things that maybe rushed the wheel around the place. But when the ball did come out, you guys were efficient in the passing game. 13 to 16, 13 to 20 years of the temperatures. What allowed this passing of fact to stay that Olympic as even the off at the wide room? They each from the bottom. The ball has just had to come out quicker and for, but then we have to see every day. And the line has just had to be in that big hand and they're running faster and quicker. How much do you feel like that game can be a building block for you in terms of continuing to be a big, a big party off that? I feel like each game, a building block, a stack each game and stuff like that.

4:40:41I just made big plays again. I just thought I could come out and go to block it from the mat. I'm not a lot of the blind men working so hard to see the numbers. They've been doing pretty good. They've been not in stuff like that. New guys, new places in stuff like that. We're all trying to pick up from the injuries and stuff. And you guys are the one being with this one last little game. How can the flagers do their help in that particular time? We do got good hands getting the box. You know, why don't we get in there and probably get the safety. We get linebackers or at the end, stuff like that, whatever they do just to do. On your touchdown catcher, this is like a distance ball allows to come down. They came down. They're throwing into the wind. Yeah. Yeah. Colonel, what's it like? Like I asked you earlier, did you figure the ball was going to be coming in sooner or later this year? You called him a girl, meaning, you know, they'll get three big time libraries. Maybe four or five. If you figure it out, it would find you insignificant. That's significant. Yeah, I knew it was all come my way. Each and every week, we have plays for each and all of us in stuff like that.

4:41:42It just really depends on what the defense gives us. Like give us one thing and then it's not a ball goes away from me or goes comes to me and stuff like that. So ultimately, it's not in my decision or ball goes. And yet you're blocking a state of point. So like you're blocking is that point? Yeah, our blockers from the Warners has been a big emphasis this year and stuff like that. Because we like that pretty much all last year. So they've been a big emphasis on blockers here from the Warners. And when you look at Vince made on the video, what just stands out about there and maybe their past with past what you. But you're going to be personally up against them. They're pretty good public points. They played Man and Elijah's stuff like that. So we got to win our 101s. I thought it was on the perimeter. I'm similar to today. I know you got to give them the game last year. How similar is that? Or just show the corner back to what you made yourself last year. I'm pretty much the same. I'm married covered all around. They got a little size on them. And stuff like that. They all probably pretty much the same size all around. Thank you guys. Thanks for coming. Thanks, guys. Hi guys.

4:42:43I'm Steve Bennett, pressure. He's walked away. He kind of brings some good energy. Jason Middleton right there too. He kind of oversees Max and Bronco a little bit. It's a pretty fun. And then catching. We all have some pretty good opportunities for catching. Especially practice, we're going to make some pretty good catches. Very competitive. We're fish here. Yeah. Definitely competitive, but in a good way. We're all there. Supportive. We all know our same conditions. We're all going to have to practice. We're working with each other. We hope each other get better. We all know that we're moving each other. We'll see you this one day.

4:43:50I think it's pretty good on that one. It's something that's starting to build down. So it was before that this one. The Broncos was just the first opportunity. Yeah. I think we had a lot of fun. We're working on it. We're all going to work on it. I think we're all going to have time. Stuff. He's definitely a lot tougher. And I like that. He's a lot tougher. Yeah. I mean, that's where our unit is. We're turning it into a toughest one. You know, it's going to be a tough one. It has the first person going. You see that, yeah. Where it didn't really get great. How were you going to have that part of the game? I would say we definitely have won. What it started in this way. That's where it was started. I just wanted to try and get it. Or just, you know, the hard one. I mean, I want to really say that it's real in the toughness.

4:44:53That's real in the counting abilities right there. So, you know, if it's a laugh, I wouldn't fall sorry. I wouldn't fall sorry. I would say our indie kind of drills are going to be toughness. I wouldn't be talking about toughness. Going full reps. I wouldn't be telling you what the block is. I wouldn't have asked you what the solidity of the game is. You're going to have to split. You know, the split. There's a really good one against you. Yeah. How much has your team family been up? Been a great resource. Been a football player here at Ohio State. I mean, being 20 minutes from home is pretty nice. I mean, playing here is a big one too. So, just being able to go back home and spend time playing is good. It's a good thing. How often do you go back? I would say probably once a week, but it's usually somewhere right around there.

4:45:53Not that far. There's some good people. Yeah, get a family. Yeah. No. Do you ever go back for a very high school event? Or go back to being? Yeah. When the schedule permits? I'm playing for me at byweights or this week I can go back. So, it's not that bad. When things ramp up for a school of 100 dollars fast, give your company a place. Yeah. Yeah, it does. Especially when the scheme is estimated. You really have to go to the nursing school and you have to build down on your physical needs. Now that one is over 10 years. What excited about it is just about getting on field and playing meaningful football? Being able to see the brothers succeed. You're just knowing that all the work that we put in and doing is going to go to the nursing school. That's awesome. Are you a big guy that had on the taking key to the environment where you just fall business once you step out of the business? I'd probably say it's in a whole business.

4:46:54I kind of just kind of went out there and was really fun. But there's moments when we had a big run at Notre Dame on the table now. That was awesome. There's moments like that we just kind of have to look at the right things. When you were at Notre Dame and getting a lot of things, what snacks? How can you prepare for that for everything? Is there a way that you can get practice in that moment? You know, I've played some years. Practice a hundred percent here. So that's when it's in the game. And then if it's in the same room you know, can you work on it? At the game it means just what I feel about practice and what's the best way to do it. What do you think about it? That's what you're talking about the D.D. It's the same thing you know as the type of working in tennis practice. How do they push you as to having an idea of the better and the free food? Hello, Dr. Demi.

4:48:26I'm going to have a question. Where are the things that are just on the table? How long have we all had that extra food in the school? What are the things that you're hearing about? How many guys have had an era back in the play? How many people had that eat? People don't know what that and what they're not doing. I mean, it's good. I mean, you've never made this game so much since I've been in the game with training. You know, I've been a tough one. It's a little, maybe it's a little bit different from what you've been doing. I'm not really going to explain it to you. How important is the relationship of the music on this? Good. Yeah, we're close with the talk a lot. How do we have to see? They're fast. Absolutely, but I would say during mid spring after spring, I said, I'm going to be better at this. I've had a really good summer, really good fall camp. And I grew up on a dirty team.

4:49:26What's like that reaction? Yeah, I mean, again, I've been a year ago and I'm way past it. I'm ready for this. What do you feel like your role can be? Whatever they need me to do. I'm self-reliant. I can invite a lot of black men and black men. It's been great. I personally think it's a bit late for all the guys. I can always be back for the first time. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Again, we back down the show. Sometimes we're watching film, I don't know. That's me or someone. I'm just really enjoying the film. It's great that you're doing this. Yeah. I just feel like body is like that.

4:50:27Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I'm like I said, there's a batch in the country. There's a station and in the going and standing. We're working with my technique, my hand plays my feet for a year. I developed a career in the race. What do you think? Yeah. It's good, but at the same time, we were different. We were tapped down 26,000 points, which is how they were placed. The year is more than that. We do do Zach Ryan, so it's different footwork and different body movements. I'm just curious, you know, what they're doing. I don't see you feel like there's just an opportunity for all of you in the tight end room, you know, with K now. Yeah. We're at this page, the career, but you know, we're, you know, we're communicating and we're meeting to a better. It's your five months. It's your five months.

4:51:28It's your five months. It just shows how what we have going on in the highest days. I think the portion of the upper half of the program, I mean, a day on national program. I think it shows the power of the program. This week in tow coatings that maybe that started last week before high-level. Your thoughts on how you guys move back here? Yeah. I think going back to this foundation, I think of it as a team. We believe that we're built on toughness. It's one thing to say, but I believe that we show up weekend. We got one show toughness. But to your point last week, I believe, you know, there was position groups that were challenged, not necessarily taking a personal, but just challenged to practice harder than let's see how hard can we practice. And so I think ever since then, there has been another step that we've taken. But that's the whole goal. I mean, I hope in two, three weeks from now, there's even another step that we take forward for where we are now. That's just the evolution of getting better as a team. And I think one thing I've noticed with this football team is I think every single week we play, we've continues to get better.

4:52:32But I mean, that's just life, right? I mean, the thing you continue to do, you have the hopes to continue to get better at it. But I think we're seeing that here with this football team as well. I think when we talked to you in camp, you said you were excited about how you guys are going to run the ball this year. And obviously, you've done that. At what point did it become clear to you that you guys are going to be able to kind of hang your hat for the ball the way you are now? I just think we're such a balanced offense. I think this kind of going against our team, especially in specifically against our offense, I think there's just too many things you have to respect. You've got to respect the perimeter and you have to respect the run game. You have to respect the stretch and the inside zone, all the different things that we can do, putting the ball over the field in perimeter or even taking shots down the field. You have to respect some of these things. That just leaves gaps in the ability to catch the ball for six and seven and eight yards. I guess to answer your question, the more dynamic we're ever to be on the perimeter, the more we're able to connect when we hit on shots, I think the better it's going to be able to open up the run game as well.

4:53:35But I think Coach Kelly and Coach Day they do an amazing job just putting us in the right position and we don't have to think about that kind of stuff. We just awful minds that is 4 to 6, 8 to V plus 2 to play as hard and as violent as we can. And we're looking at the scoreboard at the end of the game and see where we are. Is that balance the best you've had in the year? How would you guys characterize the balance? Yeah, I just think I don't know, I don't want to sum up, I don't want to compare, but I think we're just a very balanced team. I don't, it's not much weakness. Now, when I say that, we still have the humility to know that we must continue to be better weekend and week out. But when I just look at our team as a whole, I don't just see like, let's go pick on this guy because this guy can't do X, Y, Z or we can leave him. I think we have 11 guys on both side of the ball that are able to be dynamic and the physical and strong players. And I think we're just a complete team. But again, I say that with humility, we want to continue to weekend and week out be the best team. We know we have to show up because on any given week you can lose.

4:54:38So we show up every week with the intention that it's a national championship. So today's talk a lot about the Saturday days of the game. You're going to have this meeting for the Iowa game. Yeah. And for men, what's going to help you grow as a leader and what's going to help you grow more comfortable? I guess it's being kind of a voice in my mind. I would just attribute that to my faith and my Lord, they would do the strikes. I think before you can lead anybody else, you have to have a sense of the foundation of who you are. Having a sense of self-ideas, self. And I think the more that I've been able to be strong in my faith, the more confidence it has given me into being leaders to other people, being able to be a leader to other people. But I think that's where it starts. How can you lead people if you're not really sure of where you are? And then also when it comes to practice, practicality of football, I think the more you have an understanding of the offense, the more you are the more often the more that you know, the more ability you can then hand knowledge to the next group of younger guys coming behind you. So that all helped the leadership.

4:55:38But I would attribute that to my faith and my strong foundation and no one who I am. Maybe some of the better instrumentalist of the years that you kind of were able to learn from as well. I know that they were pretty good leaders as well. You asked who were some? Oh, there's so many. This is the name I fit here. I've seen many, many leaders all the way going back to my freshman who was just in and past school and Jonathan Cooper. Those guys to then the next group of guys with Chris and. I think there's something I would definitely say is something special with the leaders on this team. I would say there's not the leaders that we have on this team, but not just leaders due to seniority due to it's just my turn. But I would look at the leaders that we have on this team and say they're sincerely leaders not just by. It's not as hemi down. They truly we have great leaders on this team.

4:56:40The first question for Andy was saying that you feel like will it just build the moment? Do you kind of feel that way too? Yeah, I feel like he never. He never gets too high. He never gets too low. He just he's always locked in and focused and that's the kind of. I don't know what the right word, but the right attitude. If you were for like a better words, that's the right attitude that you know from a quarterback. No matter what spot we are in the game, we look to will and who will be able to lead our huddle. And we have we have confidence in that. All right, she thank you. Really, man, it's tough practices, you know, hard camp and so far and tough practices. So really just coming in each and every day, man, it's just trying to get better. So. How important is that we're on, especially now in big time. Man is very important on the coaches. You know, they stress that a lot. You know, we got to run the boss not to run, especially in these matchup games. You know, these big game. So, you know, we've definitely been working, you know, to try to do that.

4:57:41So what's the most intense memory you have the most lost loss in the last year? I angle a lot. It's so many. It's so many fall count down. I got so many there for a camp. But yes, it's a lot, man. Okay, what was the first impression when you went down all you guys first met? I think when he first got here, he came, he came in the room. And man, he gave us this speech. He was like, I'm a dog. I'm a dog. And man, that's right. I knew I was like, I we in it, man, we in it. But now I mean, I love good like man, the inside of the deep, brings him. I thank God for bringing him here, man. He's a man. He's been amazing, you know, in this room on the same man. He's been a huge part of the same. So, I was talking to you about that. Have you ever had a coach quite intense as with Carlos? Oh, yeah, man. Coach, coach offer was that way. You know, he coached me that way.

4:58:41And, you know, coach locked, coach locked does it as well. And so, yeah, man, both, both of those guys, man, I'm so thankful. You know, that got up has allowed us to cross pass. You know, they they both been really helpful in my life. But, man, whether it's that stuff, I'm not the sole of the other thing or we just kind of generally keeping you balanced sometimes. I was born as a for running back to work on stuff with a kind of your all-pan man. And you're not carrying this over. I mean, I feel like it's just a tool, you know, you can use, you know, sometimes that comes out. And so, one thing that coached lot help us work on is just using different tools. And so, it definitely, it definitely comes to show on Saturday. You know, sometimes, so, man, that's, yeah, it's really important to just try to work on those tools as a running back. What about contact now? And so, I'll do the perfect over the course of your career. It seems like that's going to strengthen you really. Yeah. Um, shoot, really, man, uh, just like the part of this program is getting developed. And so, really just, um, getting developed here, you know, um, the coaches here. They've been doing a good job of helping me, you know, um, grow and become, you know, a better running back.

4:59:45And so, especially having coached lot care, you know, he's been a huge part of, you know, the success. Um, I praise God, you know, first of all, most, but, you know, with him bringing coached lot care and leading coached lot care, man, he's been a huge part of that. So, with, with Punch on, you know, we talk so much, you guys have talked about it, you know, split carries. But now that you're actually in the season, you deal, you're in for a drive and coach on content, you go over that curve drive where, you feel that defenses are more worn down where you're not, you're not going to go in the, you split back, those before, you've always been a feature back. Now you're kind of split carries. Do you feel like, you feel the defenses are a little more worn down than you are when you get in there, you know, first, late first quarter or early second quarter? Uh, every now and, I mean, it really depends on the team. You know, there are some teams that play hard, you know, full four quarters. And so, yeah, it really depends on the team to be honest. Do you think split carries, what kind of help you at all in any way? Uh, yes. It has helped me in so many ways.

5:00:45And I, you know, it's a long season for real. And so, the biggest thing is just helping, you know, with the wear and tear. And I'm just building off each other moment of two. So, it's, it's helped in so many ways. And kind of building more in here to even help you. You know, you're not maybe getting the volume, it's not harder, but it helps at all. Coach, they actually talked about that, to be honest. Um, does he express to the team, you know, if you get tired, you know, we got, we got, we got definitely the same, you know, guys who can come in and make plays. So, he actually expressed that. Bigger tests to come, but what's impressed you about the offends and why in the month of the year? Uh, man, really the work they've been doing, you know, they're in practice. I mean, I know y'all see it, you know, they're in on Saturdays, but man, really the work that they put in there in practice, you know, it's, it's hard, man, it knows guys do a good job of, you know, just coming in each and every day and trying to get better. So, you talk about your thinking, getting off from Sean. And he comes out with a step arm. You come out to come in. You guys, you got speed off that mentality. I want to, one of another, one of another. Uh, yeah, man. Like I said, man, there's definitely, um, we build momentum, you know, off each other.

5:01:49And I definitely build momentum off my Sean, man. When Sean is a great running back, I believe the shoot of best running back in the country, man. That boy, how it's it, man? And, um, you know, I'm so thankful, man, to have him here, man. He's going to be a huge part of the scene. Thanks for joining us together. I was glad on the field and I executed. I thought it was just amazing to see. So as it's team, you know, I gave him the arms and the props and we got to the end of my bro. That's the hell of a lot, but is this good? Did you hear him yell from the side of my? No, I'm so loud. You could hear the TV microphones. No, actually, I did, man. I just seen the blitz. It would be wild. It makes you want to go out there and get one for sure. Yeah, for sure. How was your past bro and center? Oh, I thought definitely, you know, I didn't get a lot of blitzes as far as I think on that. Like, yeah, I didn't have any pressure on Saturday. So definitely want to share. Coach Kelly, yesterday is here. Does he call things differently when you're in the game? When he sees you're in the game or in when he sees Pravegan in the game? He says, no, he felt like that too, the packages, the packages, you all just run the place.

5:02:52Yeah, I think that's just the biggest thing, you know, like I don't totally play it. I don't draw anything else because I just go out there and just execute it in my head. Yeah, I know you all are trained the same, but you look at the guy you see. He's a little bit different from that guy. Yeah. How do you like this package? It's all right. This office. You know, it's only the first game. So I wish I could say, yeah, definitely how much I like it so far. I think as we continue throughout the season, we get to showcase a lot of different. That's why how does it compare to like what's your game? The Ole Miss stuff, the variety of plays, etc. I think just starting off the season at the point that we're now like we haven't really done too many crazy games. Just frankly, it's your practice. Yeah, you already did. I mean, does it feel pretty deep to you? Oh, yeah, definitely. It's going to be fun and it's time to share. And I just feel like you guys are close in the run game. The bus is you open. Yeah, I definitely think so. Like I said, we see on the fan, you know, how everybody has collectively come together and improve things that we're missed or love like that, but I think we definitely will.

5:04:00I think we've gone straight at that big wall. We've got Brandon in it. No, what's your point of view of that? We're watching back on film. What's that reaction to you and how much of an emphasis is that? Yeah, definitely, definitely a big emphasis, especially at our position, super important, just to see what we do in practice together in the Eagle XB. What was the reaction to seeing the NF lock with that? I mean, at the moment, I just like, dang it, I'm like, too far. Sure. Coach Kelly was talking about you, Jamie on James Peoples. It doesn't really matter who's in the game. They call it the same way. And James, like, what did you see in his first performance and you see some similarities that all between you guys? I think in James, man, just saying how about there and be super excited with the performance, like go out there for his first game and see him get the run and get the dirties out. Just see him get the experience of like his first game, me and Tray both just enjoy it.

5:05:00Are you surprised at all the sea terrorizing that happened first ever game? Just as a team and like, we're so talented and everybody just worked so hard since we've been here and you get to see what each of your teammates can do. So it's like when they go out on Saturdays, it feels like us. Great question on thank you very much. Thank you guys. Thanks for watching. Really just coming in each and every day, man, it's just trying to get better. How important is Navajo and the run especially now in big time? Man is very important. The coaches, they stress that a lot. We've got to run the boss, not to run especially in these match-up games, these big-game games. So we've definitely been working to try to do that. What's the most intense memory you have of the most lost ones in the past year?

5:06:04I ain't going to lie. It's so many. It's so many. Paul County, no, it's Paul County, man. I got so many there. Paul County. It's a lot, man. Okay, what was the first impression when you went shot and all you guys first met? I think when he first got here, he came in the room. He gave us this speech. Jesus, I'm a dog. I'm a dog. That's right, I knew I was like, I, we in it, man. I love Coach Lock, man. It's all the deep brains here, man. Thank God for bringing him here, man. He's been amazing. In this room, on the same man, he's been a huge part of the same. I was talking to you around the corner. Have you ever had a coach quite intense as with Carlos'? Yeah, man. Coach Ophor was that way. He coached me that way. Coach Lock does it as well. And so, yeah, man, both of those guys, man, I'm so thankful. You know, that God has allowed us to cross paths.

5:07:06You know, they both been really helpful in my life. Maybe on whether, whether it's that stuff I'm up to, so the other day, or maybe we just had a generally keeping balance sometimes. I was born as a herd running back to work on stuff with the kind of off hand, and you're not carrying it all over. I mean, I feel like it's just a tool. You know, you can use sometimes that comes out. So one thing that Coach Lock helped us work on, which is using different tools. And so, it definitely comes to show on Saturday. You know, sometimes, so, man, that's, yeah, it's really important. Just trying to work on those tools as a running back. What about contact now? I don't even prove that over the course of the program. It's like that's going to be a strength for you. Yeah. Shoot, really, man. Just like the part of this program is getting developed. And so, really, just getting developed here. You know, the coaches here, they've been doing a good job of helping me grow and become a better running back. And so, especially having Coach Lock here, you know, he's been a huge part of, you know, to success.

5:08:06I praise God, you know, first and foremost, but, you know, with him bringing Coach Lock here, and him leading Coach Lock here, man, he's been a huge part of that. So, we've been showing you, we've talked so much, you guys have talked about it. You know, it's split carries. But now that you're actually in the season, you deal with your in-for-drive and the coach comes in, you go over that nerve drive. You feel the defenses are more worn down where you're not in first time. You split back, you always have been the feature back. Now, you're kind of split carries. Do you feel like, when you feel the defenses are a little more worn down than you are, when you get in there, you know, first, late first quarter or early second quarter? Every now and I mean, it really depends on the team. You know, there are some teams that play hard, you know, cool four quarters. And so, yeah, it really depends on the team, to be honest. You think split carries, what kind of help you at all in the end? Yes, it has helped me in so many ways. And you know, it's a long season for real. And so, the biggest thing is just helping, you know, with the wear and tear.

5:09:07And I'm just building off each other moment of two. So, it's helped in so many ways. And kind of, what we learned here is even helps. When you get down up like, you know, you're not maybe getting the volume, it's like, it's not harder, because then I don't have it helped at all. Coach, they actually talked about that to be honest. To see his press to the team, you know, if you get tired, you know, we got, we got, we got definitely on the same, you know, guys who can come in and make plays. And so, he actually expressed that. You're trying to succumb, but what's impressed you about the offense and why? Man, really the work they've been playing in, you know, during practice. I mean, I know y'all see it, you know, during, on Saturdays, but man, really, the work they're playing during practice, you know, it's hard, man, and those guys do a good job of, you know, just coming in each and every day and trying to get better. So you talk about your thinking, getting off from Sean. And he comes out with a step arm. You come out with a step arm. You guys, you guys feed off that mentality. I want to, one of another, one of another. Yeah, man, like I said, man, there's definitely, we build momentum, you know, off each other and I'll definitely build momentum off.

5:10:07I'm saying that, when Sean is a great running back, I believe the shoot of best running back in the country, man. That boy, talented man. You know, I'm so thankful, man, to have him here, man. He's going to be a huge part of the scene. Thanks, Sean. Yeah, man. He's been working really hard, man, even before the season. He had a great spring, great summer, especially throughout fall count. He took a lot of reps and went against Shooter, the top players, taught defense in the country. So I think, I think he's ready to have the better. As a bad team, when you recognize what team is happening whether they bring off the band as they go over, then coming in, or against two players, those three. I'm not going to lie. Sometimes I'm too locked in, I don't really know to it. But it might seem even going down, and it was still clear that it's in K-RM. And so this is trying to motivate anybody. You know, he can do it, man. The manager, the manager is a great doctor. We have the team to try. Praveen, on whatever things you can do, add the veteran as a back, then to help those guys out front.

5:11:11I think the biggest thing, you know, is continuing to encourage each other. And those tough times, you know, when it gets hard, I think that's the biggest thing. I think there's a lot of times of time to get hard. You know, you can get selfish, I think I'm talking to him. And so that's something that God has been helping me work on. And those tough times, you know, to not be selfish, you know, at all, and really encourage the guys around me and spread his life. That's when you've seen throughout the team here, it was possibly going to happen. Yes, definitely seen that, man. We've definitely been listening each other up, and encouraging each other. You know, just, they're really trying to put the page and focus on the basketball. We'll talk yesterday about how this roster is going to affect you in the right way. You haven't had a lot of chances. That just has a lot of importance. How do you feel like you guys are turning the page of the game out of the game? I think really, that was, that was like, the biggest focus. When we, when we came in after that loss, I met as a team. It's just like Coach Day, really did a good job with that.

5:12:12You know, just like, man, we all got to own up to the mistakes that we made. But, you know, one thing I love and respect about Coach Day, is that he took it upon himself. You know, he called himself out, and it was like that, so I know. But it's, and really it's on all of us, you know, as a team. And so that's one thing I really love about Coach Day, that, you know, he was willing to check himself. What was the last thing you practiced, like, specifically coming off that game? It was, it was, it was tough now. It was, it was a great week of development, you know, getting, getting better and cleaning up the little details of things. You know, I think, you know, we, that we continue to strive on the little things, the little details, you know, we can, we can really go forward. What's different about coming off the loss early on in this season, compared to coming up that first loss later in the year? I think the biggest thing is it just, it humbles us. You know, it keeps us focused on the right thing. Like, I believe, this is a test of our faith, you know, in the Lord. I, I think this, I believe, you know, he wanted it to go this way. You know, in test our faith, you know, we, we continue to trust him,

5:13:12even when things don't go our way. And, you know, he's helping us pass that test. You said Coach Day called himself out. What did he call himself out on? What, what kind of things do you say? Really just, as a head coach, you know, this is his team, you know, he's like the guy. And so he was just like, it really starts with me. And so we love that, you know, I think a lot of times, you know, coaches were 10-pointing on everyone else, but Coach Day, you know, man, he just took the pun of stuff and like, that's all new. And, you know, he's going to get it big. And, you know, he's definitely been pushing us, man, and pointing us in the right direction, man, and helping us clean up things. Trey, I think you're on the glee, didn't just fall on the ground. So how many moments of this career? What do you see from him kind of bouncing back from that? This week, this week, we've got three of us, but I've received your down as well. But where is he at in terms of responding to that? Quashon, man, he's been responding to that virtually really well. Yeah, he's definitely not used to putting the ball on the ground. And so he's definitely been working hard in practice to get that fix.

5:14:14And then Quashon is a really great player, and he's definitely going to bounce back. Is he the kind of guy he has to go over to right after that happens? He gave him some motivation to comfort. You kind of leave it well. Yeah, I mean, we always go to the bench, and we encourage each other, man, Quashon. He encourages me, I encourage his parents, so man, it's like, we're just shopping with each other, and then, and therefore, each other, you know, when you meet him. Trey, you're on the 2014 title team getting in front of you. Is there a 10-day anniversary? Do you remember watching Zika and those guys as a kid, and how did they put your memories of them? I'm not going to lie. I did not watch it at the kids. I'm not going to lie. Have you gotten to know them now, or just what's your sort of like, you with that team? Yeah, that team was loaded. That's what I heard about the team. It was really loaded. I see highlights every now and then, I think, leaping off the like the Champions League against the Vemma, right? Yeah, he had like four, right? Four tuts for the four.

5:15:14Yeah, I think so, but I know that team with Stagman was loaded, so a lot of great guys on that team. Thank you, baby. Thank you for having me. Thank you, Tom. Appreciate it, Tom. I think that's why, you know, just coming in, you know, with the right mindset, trying to put it in the work each and every day and get better as a team, so. What are some ways that you and Gen Shron kind of contrast the complement one on the one hand, and some things that you may not be able to do as well as them and vice versa? Shoot, I don't know. We'll see. Where is Gen step number four, so come face it. That's what he's doing. Man, Gen Shron has been so good, man. He's a really good person, man, good player. And he comes in every day, you know, just trying to get better. You know, he kind of reminds me a lot about myself, and so, man, this is hunger. And everything is coming in. He's going to be a great player, man. He's continuing to buy, you know, it's a little bit hell here, and you know, where we're trying to go.

5:16:16You know, he's going to be a decent part of this offense. He's a good person, too. What's the matter about this game? Man, he just brings someone to join, man. He's a funny dude. And, man, yeah, I just love him as a brother, man. I got you, you know, just a chance. You know, I knew James when he was recruited, and so we talked a little bit. And just like being here, man, just being there, you know, helping him with his search family, and the little coaches of the group, it's been done, man, the conversation that we have, and so just off the field. And so just being able to be that one, you know, when he needs me, you know, I'm just thankful for that. They trade with, with Caleb Dows, every situation is a set of build-up. How does he impact the one in the run again? Yeah. How does he, how does it, how does it, how does it, how does Caleb Dows affect the one in the run again? Oh, man, Caleb Dows, he's a good player, man. I was so glad, you know, he's here, man. He's been really good for the defense, man, and, yeah, man, he's, he's all around the field, you know,

5:17:16making plays in the ranked game, past game, everywhere, man. He's so good everywhere. What is it we with the always positive, as a captain? As a captain, Jesus teaches greatness and serving. And so I just, you know, I think for me, you know, I just want to be, you know, the Lord's humble servant and just be able to serve others, you know, the players on my team, you know, how I reckon do so, and be the captain that the Lord wants me to be. And so, you know, it's a big responsibility, you know, the biggest thing is just like that I pray on it, and that the Lord helps me to remember is that, you know, I'm trying to please him and not others. And so, you know, just keep my eyes on the Lord and continue to allow him to work on my heart to be a better team-mate captain for my team. I think that's, it's, it's going to be really good. That's how you would be goal for you when you got here to be a captain over the team. Uh, she's not really a man. Yeah, not really, man. I'm just so thankful, you know, that God has placed me in this position. And that my team makes, you know, they pick me to be in this position.

5:18:18And yeah, I'm just so thankful, man, and just being in this position, like I just want to be able to bring Lord to the Lord's name. And so, like I said, man, just leaning on him, you know, it's tough, man. It's tough being a captain because every day, you know, you got to come in and people are looking at you, do things right. And so, there's been days where I struggle and just gotten to see the place with the Lord and just asking the Lord to for help, you know. And he, he bought me through, man, and he's continuing to make me a better person, a better team-mate. What do you do to your coach? What do you do to your coach? I do two steps in his first son-in-law's center day and one of the things that I don't get met with. Uh, I don't even think we talk much about that yet. Yeah, I don't know how much we talk about that. We still locked in there right now, man. It's just, when that time comes, we come. What would you tell him about the atmosphere of what is going on on the Saturdays, you can keep on fast. Uh, it's a side of, man. It's a side, especially first game, being back in the shoe, um, the walk and seeing a fans and everything.

5:19:20You know, it's a huge environment. So, yeah, I'm, man, I know he's going to be so excited. You guys are bringing over two in the country. You're loaded. Well, people expect y'all to make a run all the way to the championship game. Who knows what happens in. How legit is that in your grand school, in your city, in where you're sitting? I'll trade you on about this team. Yeah. Shoot, man. Um, you know, it's a long season. And so I think the biggest thing is that we're trying to do as a team. You know, this year, it's not looked too far ahead. It just taking one game at a time. You know, I think that's the biggest thing right there, man. Let's, like, let's just focus on hacking and martialing the next game. And then, um, eventually, like, we'll get there, man. We'll get there. But just every day just trying to focus on one day at a time, putting in the word. And I'm preparing for the opponent. You know, we have each week. All right, right. Thank you. Thanks for that. Appreciate y'all. Appreciate it, man. I'm so, um, you know, it's been great. And the more that I just throw to these receivers and, and just get, you know, get around these guys, you know, the more.

5:20:21We're coming together and becoming a team. And it's, it's cool to see. And we just got to keep, keep doing it and keep practicing as hard as we event. I practice. It's been what it's like. Not like. Um, you know, I think I've, I think I've done a pretty good job protecting the football and, and being smart with my decisions. Um, you know, I think that I want to continue to push the ball down the field when I, when I have opportunities to and be accurate down the field and get, get some more arrow my, on my deep balls. Um, those are just a couple things that I've, I've thought about personally, but, you know, I think, I think one of the bigger things is, you know, what are we doing as a team? And, you know, obviously, you know, I'm thinking about myself and how I can be better, but, you know, the bigger thing is, how can we be better as a team? How can I facilitate that being a quarterback? You know, how can I encourage somebody, you know, before we go out there to remind them, hey, you know, if it's a running back, you know, make sure on 60 and whatever protection, you know, you got these guys. Um, you know, doing, doing things like that is, is something I, I want to continue to grow in for my team, you know, because that's at the end of the day, you know, all 11 guys have to do their job, every single play and, you know, being the quarterback, you kind of have to facilitate that a little bit and help those guys and make sure that, you know, we're being the best team we can be.

5:21:38Yeah, yeah, I felt fast. It was nice to get out and running a little bit. You know, I, I, we made a little, made a little QB call on that play and got out and ran and, um, it was fun. You know, obviously, it's, it's nice to compete with those guys and running, you know, trying out runs and some, some BBs that are really, really fast. Um, but yeah, it was a good play. I don't know when you're in your, you want to go to the past, you know, big, fire, if you come in, you feel like you're like, oh, yeah, absolutely. That's a big part of my game and it's going to need to be a part of our game as an offense. You know, whether that's in the re-game and in the scramble game, whatever it may be, and, you know, I just want these guys on my team to know that, you know, I'm willing to run the ball and go get that extra yard when I need to, you know, because, at the end of the day, that's what really, that's what it really comes down to is, you know, are we going to run some quarterback, you know, run play, sure, but, you know, at the end of the game when it's third and five and everyone's, you know, everyone's covered down the field, am I going to be able to tuck the ball down and go, you know, go get 60 yards and run someone over that.

5:22:52That's, that's one of the bigger things and I think, you know, I want those guys, you know, they're out there with me to know that, you know, I'm going to go get that extra yard. I'm going to be able to run for the day because some quarterbacks are able to run, but not willing to be. Yeah, as a visit you were P.W. I mean, I've always, I've always, yeah, I've always definitely, you know, when I was a young kid, I was a pretty good runner when I got to high school, I was a tall, you know, skinny pocket passer kind of, and I wasn't really known for my running ability. I ran it, you know, from time to time, but when I got to K state, I put on a little weight. I started to get a little stronger in the, you know, in my, in my, my leg areas and, you know, I'm actually my first start against TCU third play of the game. I ripped off like an 80 yard, QB draw, which I surprised myself a little bit. Like, you know, I had had some good runs in camp and people knew I was good athlete, but like, I was like, man, I just really just do that. And from then on, you know, it just kind of became a part of my game. And, you know, I just got more and more confident with it. And, you know, the more you do it, the better you get at it, you know, throughout my whole career there, obviously I ran ball, I get them out.

5:23:58I enjoy running ball. I think, you know, people always ask me, is it more fun to run a touchdown or throw a touchdown? I like to run it. I think it's pretty cool to, you know, run in there and celebrate with the teammates, but, you know, yeah, it's definitely been a, been a big part of my game. Well, the guys have said it. It's a good question. Everything is everything's heightened here, you know, I think, you know, the, you know, you, you feel, you feel the eyes a little bit and you feel, I think, I think that, you know, the one thing I would say is that I don't feel like I have to be a hero here. And I feel like I have the guys around me to where I just need to facilitate and just get them involved and make good decisions. At the end of the day, I don't have to go out there and do anything super, super human, you know, I just have to be myself and trust the guys around me. And, you know, in going through camp and through spring ball, like, it was talking to you earlier, Adam, like going against his defense every single day is a, is a blessing, man.