Press Conferences (Joey Bosa) Elite Edition September 3

0:00I really plan as much so I just wanted to get like more experience under my belt so I can know bring younger guys with me because I've been through a lot of it. One of those younger guys we're seeing it out here it's the first time I've scored all of these last years. What have you seen from Lil? I kind of felt like last year we all forgot about him because he was hurt. Now he's running you know almost a second man out behind you and tied. What have you seen in your memory? What have you seen in your dreams? Well, it was a workhorse. He goes stay quiet, he goes work hard and that's all I love about him. He focuses, he don't really talk much. He's going to get the job done, do a job right, rarely has any mistakes. What would be a successful season? A national championship? I ring when all the games we don't want to lose anything. We got a mindset that we can't beat and we just got to go show it. That mindset different. It seems like you guys expect a national championship every year. This year even more so you guys have all come back for this. You guys have all decided like enough is enough. Does that feel the difference or is there not really any difference?

1:02It's just the same. It's definitely a difference. Everyone working harder. We noticed our last run. Most of us don't have any years after this so we got to go bigger going home and we not trying to go home. Finish big. We know what you guys think of Michigan but when you look at what they did they won the national championship and you guys took them down to the final minute. You were right there. Something goes a little different. You guys could have won that game against them. Does that tell you anything about like that? Hey, you guys want to win a national championship but you played to the 59th minute with the team that won the national championship last year like you're that close. So I'm saying we just work harder. That's kind of a coach makes of saying nobody cares. Work harder. Like those one plate Georgia is the same thing. Last play they went on the win in 90 so we just got to get over that hump at the end of the season. I think we'll be fine. How frustrating is that? You're that close against the last two national titles.

2:02Of course it's frustrating but you can't change the outcome. You can't really dwell on it. You just got to come back and work harder. Do things better than you did last year and hopefully the outcome will change. Is that as you get older you kind of learn. I thought that was working harder than you always find out there's a little more than you could have been doing. Yeah definitely. I mean that's how that's what growing up is basically in college. I thought freshman year I was working as hard as I could but now I look back at it. I really wasn't working hard at all compared to what I'm doing now so just to learn anything. The stamina is a 16. What do you need it to be to be your best? I mean it's all on me. I think it's a little higher. I was just trying to be funny but I mean it's all on me. I just got to run harder. Get the shape. So that's the stamina. Did you get the heart rate? It's been a thing. Yeah. The idea of a concentration is 16 to 17. Yeah. How do you say about that idea?

3:03Does it make you nervous about can you last that long? Do you have worries? I think we are. I think we are. I think we are definitely going to get last. We got to get the young guys to come along with us. We can't play 50 snaps again. That's just too much on our bodies. Just everybody. It's like online, online. We got to get those younger guys to play and get depth pieces on the online and online and everywhere else so we can last that long. Speaking of that, would you like playing that new snap again last year because I don't know if any of us were really expected to be playing that next time? Yeah, I did. Unless we were winning by a lot. I thought there are no moments you can sit down or something. But we are playing in big games, in order to end two or in those kinds of games. Of course I want to be in because I know I can contribute. I won't want to put that on anyone else when I know I can get the job done. What stands out about Kaden McDonald? You got the kick. You got the little second here. Yeah, definitely. K-MAC is an animal. You haven't really seen it yet, but in practice he shows all the time.

4:05He's growing right now. He has a work ethic. He just has to get in the playbook and things like that. You guys are about the exact same size. Listen, you're both listening to 6-3. You're 3-27. He's 3-26. Yeah, he's very open. I kind of look at him like my junior, but K-MAC, he's going to be a great player. He's got to develop more and get in the playbook. It's really a lot on you, older guys. There's that large group of young guys and then there's the seniors in your back. Is that part of your task for this year to bring those guys along as well? Yeah, definitely. We've got to be leaders. Like I said, we've got to have them play this year. We can't just play all the snaps. They've got to get in there and get some work. We've got to get them right, earn all season so they can play. Not just play, they want to contribute, make plays, tackle, and sex. It seems like these guys get bigger. Each one of the freshmen class is bigger or bigger. Those guys kind of, those are going to kind of while you're in the cell. Yeah, they're definitely some big dudes. And they all work hard. I haven't really seen much of some of the day too when I'm passing on.

5:06But throughout the workouts, they've been working hard. They're determined. I just say that. And it looks like they're ready to work with me. How important is those? It feels like there's a lot of great defense. You have big athletic defense attackers who can eat up space, but also move right through this back. Does that have an environment maybe through great defense? To have guys like you that have some balls, but also a great team. I think that is definitely. I think if you look at the last couple of national championship winners, like Team of North A, they got two good, two athletic detacles. Look at Georgia, two athletic detacles. I think that's definitely neat if you want to go on that big run and beat those big teams. If you think about this, they're going to be defined by the defense attack. It's like, what's Jordan Davis and Daniel Carter? I think Michigan is Chris Jenkins. Tell them more questions. You might as well know how you understand it because you play it.

6:08But I feel like some time I don't know. Are people realizing how important defense tackles are? A little bit more than they used to? I think so. I think they're starting to develop more and more of these like freakiest detacles. Yeah. In the combine, just now you see in like those guys, they're moving forward to 478 and things like that. So we'll see. And when you think about those freakiest out there, how do you think you fit into that mold of that kind of player? You watch that and say, yeah, that's me. Yeah, definitely. I think I'm top notch when it comes to detacles. But I don't want to get a big head, but I watch it come on. I watch it do the drills. I have tape here. You're like, you're looking much. My film. So I think I'm up there with all those guys. Do you become like a artist who comes to the bad end passes the figure way? It's kind of your thing. I mean, you're going to bring practice. You're not doing as much a weapon on the left. I mean, how do you work on that? Do you have like a goal in mind? I don't remember how many bad last you're going to have. Do you have a goal in mind? How many do you want to have? I mean, as many as I can have, I think I have more than that.

7:11But I think he said it on the other side. I think it counts some of them. And it's some of them where I just missed it. So, but I think we work on drills matching the hand. I think that goes big. And what we do is a D line, you know, just affecting the quarter of Vegas. Anyway, you can. It's just great for the defense. You know, just that little thing covering his eye, you know, he might throw it a little bit to the left to our players. So, it's something that you really, really have to work on. It's one of the things that you've maybe worked on the most during your time here because there are a few guys that I've seen. Like, oh, that passed me about a down. We don't have to ask this. We're kind of kind of expected for the second. I think I just have like an eye for the ball comment. I kind of just look at the quarterback and just, I see him like load up. I just try to get in his way and sometimes he throws it to me. I don't know. I'm your opponent. If you want to be a high state quarterback, you can get back down passes. I mean, they get frustrated, but you know, we're a team, you know, we're just getting better. I should lot of, a lot of different backs, man, they just learn and grow for them.

8:13If you got to pick your top three backs, you got to pull right now. Uh, I don't really have a top three, but I'll get back to the top three. But I'll give you, I'll give you one. I would say, say, Juan Gibbs and I like McCaffrey. Although he was injured this year, I like McCaffrey. Best back in this drive. I lead out of the yard. That's y'all decision. Playing with Will Howard, what I'm going to remember most. We're a Howard man. He's just such a great lead. He's just like in moments where, you know, usually a lot of players they fold, man, he was just always calm and relaxed, man. And he just the leader that he was, man, that's one thing I'm going to remember about him. Yeah, he's, he's going to be really good, man. He's on Coastal like I think he got the transfer in as well from West Virginia.

9:15Just that one two punch with them both as well. They're going to be really good backs. And so James people's man, he's smart. The way that he goes about his business, man, he's mature. And so man, he's growing, you know, just as a person and as a player. And so man, yeah, definitely Ohio State, you know, that running back room is in great hands. Yeah, coach, coach Heartline, man, he's full of energy, man. And he's creative as well, you know, I'm just learning from him as well, you know, I'm trying to run more outside the backfield was being able to learn from coach Heartline. And so he's definitely creative at what he does. And he brings a lot of energy to the team as well. And so I think that would do really good. Just intensity, man, then, since he got the playoffs, every game, man, it's like the intensity got, you know, higher and higher. And so, you know, being able, I know in the lead, it's the same thing, even if it's not

10:15the playoffs, just every game and intensity keeps getting higher and higher. And so, yeah, you just, I know you got to bring it, you know, each and every day and come in and work just like Ohio State. You know, I definitely feel like Ohio State, they definitely do a good job of preparing us for that. You know, I just remember even before going through this process, I'll talk to a lot of players before that. And they told me a lot of just about how much Ohio State prepared them, you know, for the NFL. And so, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I know I took a couple of days off after the National Championship and then shoot right after that. I'm writing sample Florida and I'm writing to it. And so, yeah, I think while I trained, I trained at YoMurf Performance. I think it's called the House of Athlete or the Compound now. They did a good job, man, they're just bringing us in. The way they went about training us, man, they did a really good job. I mean, that would be cool, you know what I mean? The Bucking Nears, you know what I have in it.

11:16Temple, a nice, this is a nice city, man. Really nice. The 40, the broad and the vert. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, man. It's really all about technique and then it's about mindset as well. And so, I say, you know, it's for the love of my brother, it's for the love of Wil Howard, it's for the love of the receivers who I got on the perimeter. Just making sure, you know, first of all, my quarterback doesn't get sacked. And I told Wil, I think it was before the first game. I was like, I got your brother. I said, man, I'm not going to let you get hit, you know, and so I don't know if I gave up a sack, I'm not sure that, but I know if I did, I haven't given up too many. And so, man, it's for the love of my brothers, though, man, making sure that the ball get in their hands, you know, the guys on the outside and making sure they get fed.

12:17You had to hit the practice field later today. What is something you've been working on right now? In my game. You can't really work on this, you know, in all season, I feel like it's more so, you know, you got to put the pads on. You got to go through some inside run, you know, maybe it's really just continuing run through tackles. And so that's, I feel like that's one of the areas in my game. You know, I want to continue to get better. I feel like I did a good job of that in my senior year. And so I just want to continue to build on that. So you know what I'm saying? Yes, I did. Yes, I did. So people say you look like now that you are out there, you get back in nursing, you have been met with people on the ground. I did meet with New Orleans as well. I never got that comparison. Actually, I know I have a Camera shoe. Yeah, man, I have a Camera great, great back, man. Just what he does and those 101 matchups, he's dangerous, man. And he's so smooth. He's so smooth as well. I'm not going to lie. He's smooth. So the picture play from my face. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Inside zone from stack, being able to hit that thing downhill.

13:21And I'll say the next one is probably just an option route out of the back. You know, man and man coverage, you're getting on that line backer. And so. Yeah, I say the man, the biggest thing is the way that he carries himself, man, and the way that man, he approaches the game. He comes in with the mindset, you know, he's going to work every single week, you know, every practice, you know, he's working hard, you know, even shoot. I don't know every good, I think he had every game was a good game for him, man. And so but still, man, he always has the mentality to mindset that, you know, he's going to come in each and every day. He's going to continue to work and get better, man. And so he's definitely man, he's going to be a special player, man. He really is. I'm starting to get into the out of the way. I'm starting to get into the middle of some entries. I think it's a massive difference. When he looked back on it, what do you stand for?

14:21A lot of ups and downs, man, it's just how you respond to adversity. And I feel like that's something that God has definitely helped me to do better. Is this, I'm not having something to lean on now. You know, I remember before I met him, you know, going through those adversity, I had nothing to run to. You know, you can run to people, but they still can't, it's not too much, they can't truly help you. You know, I feel like, you know, I feel like the only person that can truly help you is your relationship with Jesus Christ. And so being able to lean on him, you know, he gives you, in those moments where it's tough, you know, where it's slow. And when you're behind the scenes and you're going through things that people don't know about, he gives you that peace and comfort, you know, even in those moments, man, where it's so hard that you can't explain. It's like, man, I'm going through this, but like, how am I still filled with this internal joy? You know, how do I have so much peace in this situation? And so that's something that only Jesus Christ can give you. And so... The back of the firm, Peterson Howard and John Jackson, who are back with, which aspect of each of those other individuals that you run to, and from being around Howard and

15:26Scott? Um, man, those guys have such a great mentality, man. I just really love their mentality, especially Q as well. You know, I talked about Will Howard, his leadership, but Quincham mentality, man, um, that boy just, yeah, that boy just gifted. You know, you see, you know, sometimes he put in a situation where he looked like, you know, he should have a negative five yards. And as soon as you know it, you know, he, that running through somebody, still forming somebody, and shoot, it's a game to 10. And so... It's like, do someone think that he does, he just realizes two different guys. Yeah. Shoot, I think... Yeah, man, I think it's just like, he's just gifted, man, too, beyond it. He's just gifted. You know, he's a big back. You know, he's strong. And so, you know, he's able to do it. He's able to do those things. And so, yeah, man, it's definitely, you know, I look at his game and I want to, you know, at the same time, I want to learn from Quincham, you know, I want to look at his game and it's like, man, where, where can I get better at as well? You know, that's the type of player I am. I'm always looking to get better, man. I'm always looking to grow as a player.

16:26What's your last one to be in San? Julian San. Oh, yeah, he's going to be a great, but he's going to be a great quarterback, man. He's so, so accurate. And so, um, he's definitely, man, I know Coach Dez is definitely going to get him right. Container grow as a leader, container grow as a player. And so, he's going to be really good for high state. He's, I know just the quarterback position. I feel like, you know, the quarterbacks in the past, they've, they've definitely been vocal. And so, I feel like that's something that they're definitely going to ask Julian San as well. It's to be that vocal leader and lead the, and lead the offense and lead the team. Thanks, thanks, thanks. Shoot, man, he has, he has a build like JK Dobbins. And, um, I kind of see them, you know, similar, similarities in their game as well. And I know JK Dobbins, he was a great running back. Um, I feel like he's not talked about his, not a lot, but man, his career here, you watch his highlights is, is great. I remember, um, before I recruit, before I committed here, I remember watching JK Dobbins

17:28highlights like every, every, um, one of his years here, like, four or five times. And so, man, he was such a great back. And, um, I feel like, you know, when I see JK Dobbins, when I see, um, James people, I see similarities to both of their games, I feel like they play the same. And so, appreciate you all. Yeah, I'll be going.

19:31Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, I got coming in last year. I knew the role. So I just tacked Eric Dave, really the same way. He's taking the van. Very rough physically. How different are you? Weight wise, body wise, all that from the year. Um, I think I got a lot bigger. I'm like 240. I'm like 240, 44 right now. Last year, I played at like 236 to 37. What does it feel like at 244 or a belt? You feel like almost a different machine out there. Yeah. What does it feel like to be running around out there like you are, but with more and a more bad. I just feel like I'm like, like, like more downhill, like stronger. Like I'm taking all the bloods better. It's bigger. No. I mean, I think it is. It's don't think, uh, maybe that's not the correct term, but to think you're going to

20:32be playing much more than you did even last year and you played quite a bit last year and stuff. What do you have to get straight in your head about being on the field that much more? Is it going to get ready to just play 30 more snaps? So. But are you, are you, how would you describe how much you're looking forward to it from an eight stand? Yeah. Yeah. I'm looking forward to it. I'm ready for it. It's a rematch. But it's not really two different teams compared to the last time you all played and stuff. How is that enhanced this camp for you and this team getting ready for the, we're an opener of that magnitude? Yeah. What an opener like that. We've been, um, with the emphasizing it a lot. We know we got coming. So we know we've got to do. We've been prepared for it. I don't know if he does probably work today. I think Rowley ready to play right now. He advanced freshman like he ended up here in the book. He stood in like he advanced and his measurements. It's crazy like he saw like the saw line to say you're ready. What was that process like during last season?

21:33Could you feel yourself becoming more and more ready? The team needed for you? Yeah. Because that's pretty much what my role was. Just whenever I was needed, I had to step up. So I feel like that's what built me into me being able to say I'm ready for this year. When you say ready, is it more a physical thing? Is it a mental thing? When I say ready, I think it's pretty much like everything physically, mentally, emotionally. I think I'm there. What difference is that feeling this year is that life? I asked a one more time. How different is that responsibility? That should be that you could just call that. When you were last year, you knew you were a homemaker. I feel like it's a way bigger responsibility with me having to step up this year. But I kind of go about it the same way. Like last year, I was attention over everything I did. I feel like this year is going to be the same thing. It's probably a little bit more. Is somebody who's somewhere in the same place? How do you try?

22:36And what work? How's everybody working? I say... Scrabbing. When you think of me, you think of like a bullet, like a silver bullet. I don't really know what it is. That's how I like to play and think. What do you think of it? No, I ain't got to be my nickname, but... Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's it. How does that fit you? What are you enjoying about it? I think it fit me because I don't know, I just like the defense. I feel like we got, like you said, we got a lot of freedom and we moving around a lot. A lot of the terms is like, you know, I don't know. I don't really know how to answer that. That's okay, does it? You can go on your instincts a little bit more, maybe? That's not so thinking of too much. I don't even know if I say that because there's a lot of thinking going on,

23:38but it's like, I just like it's defense. I like how it's pretty defense. I think what you got going on. What was it sad when CJ left the ring? Yeah. Now, I wanted to say that, I was kind of like happy fun. No, that's what you want. No. No. All right. No, that's my dog, I'm going to say it. Kind of missing a little bit, but yeah, I'm happy fun, though. Well, don't thank you. Go ahead, one last question. Coach Daze talked a lot about the guys who played some last year, but maybe weren't the starters and the hunger for... I don't know. That wasn't maybe your national championship you guys were going to win your own. How much do you feel that as a guy who certainly contributed last year, but will be in this bigger role and a lot more some of your classmates? Yeah, I do feel like... Yeah, I do feel like I did win a Natty Lash, but like you said, my role wasn't same as how it's going to be this year. So yeah, I definitely want to go get another one, experience that feeling, maybe on the field, a lot more place. Great. Thank you very much. Thanks, I got it. We will open up the floor for questions for Rebecca Bucco.

24:40We're here to write down some very... I'll be the NS. Just the feeling you guys have for us today and get another crack in these guys. Yeah, we're super excited. I think that, you know, I played in the Rose Bowl my freshman year. It's an amazing venue. It's so beautiful. They do a great job. Helstening for the players and coaches and families. So it really doesn't get much better than this. And having a chance to, you know, redeem ourselves from what happened earlier in the season we don't take lightly, so we're very thankful. Austin Ward, the podcast. Mike, what if I told you that Germany is to force a freshman over the year of national? I did hear that. Yeah, that's a little... I don't even know who won it. Who won it? Oh, it's... It also has that exact same thing. Yeah, I mean... I don't know. That's a... You know, we know what we got here on our side. We're not too worried about, you know, awards and stuff like that. So I know JJ. The type of kid he is, that's only going to motivate him more. So it's fuel to the fire, which I think is good for us having it into this season. What do you got here? What was the first moment that you saw him at the Thelos? This could be something.

25:41I would say probably just his mindset, not even obviously he's a freak when it comes to, you know, his body and stuff like that, just his physical nature. But I think just his mindset, the way he approached the weight room, it didn't really seem like a way of freshman would. And he was our only freshman ever to receive, you know, Iron Buck I reward, which, you know, is something I was pushing towards my entire time being here. But, you know, it takes another level of dude to be able to receive that reward, especially as a freshman. So, you know, that's kind of what I knew. Steve, it means, what do you mean about that? More on that. When you and Mara first got here, Garrett and Chris were adamant about the way that you guys, even as freshmen, were pushing two guys who were about to be first round draft picks. And Mara kind of said the same thing about Karnel and Brandon last year. How did JJ push you guys when he first got here as the young guy and now you guys are the older guys? Yeah, I would say it's very similar. It's kind of the same exact thing. And I don't know what it is about the culture and its own taste, but we keep bringing in these type of people year in and year out.

26:44That's what makes our room so great. But I think that something that JJ was able to push me in was just, you know, he was able to push me in my leadership. I needed to grow in that aspect, but he also was able to challenge me when it came to the weight room and on the field. Because we were always paired together when it came to summer and when our workouts were always lifting together. You know, I get a couple of wins, he get a couple of wins. So, it was really that next level step of competitiveness that I needed and that edge that I needed. That Murphy, 24-7-4? You guys came into the Tennessee game with a lot of outside motivation with Michigan boss and kind of the three weeks of talk. I know obviously there's still that motivation to go on and win a national championship, but how do you keep that kind of edge to life with better term mentally after some of that stuff has kind of gone away and probably the big one? I would say, kind of if you lose your edge, I wouldn't really call you a true competitor. I think that, you know, the way with the college football playoffs is structured. The intensity cranks every single week.

27:46So, if you're not more intense than you were the last week, then something's wrong with you. I think that, you know, Tennessee was a great win, great for our momentum, but we have our full focus on Oregon. Not worrying about anything in the past, nothing in the future, our full focus is towards this game. And then, you know, we win this one, we go on to the next one, our full focus is going to be on that one. So, it's just, you keep moving down a ladder like this. Step on Christy, please go to the dot com. Mecha, there's been a lot of change in college football in the playoffs, and things of that nature. But, you know, the way in some of your teammates and coaches talk about the Rose Bowl seems like that's one game that's really, you know, maintained a lot of that tradition. You play the net, you know, what it's about. Could you explain it to, you know, also, you would never have a chance to play that why the Rose Bowl does maintain, you know, that level of respect from players and coaches? Yeah, I think, I don't know, they're just something about it, something in the air down there in the past of Dana. It's just a beautiful venue, especially that time of the year. Like you said, the tradition is held year in and year out, and it's kind of the game you dream of playing in when you're a little kid, you know, playing backyard football with your friends. The Rose Bowl is always one that tends to come up, so just having a chance of playing it is definitely very surreal.

28:51And this is going to be my second time, so I'm going to do my best to take it all in while also being fully focused on Oregon. Dan, hold on, let me worry. The macro will study still has 90 minutes about that first game in Oregon. What kind of drive you seem to him this week wanting to get back to this one? Yeah, Will is, he's a laser focused person. He goes about his business. He's very loose and he's very calm and he's able to rally the team, but you can see it in his eyes that this game means everything to him. So every single practice, every single huddle, making sure we're sharp, making sure we have a better practice than we had last. Then yesterday, a better practice in Oregon is having so his full focus is on being this team. And, you know, obviously it's hard not to think about the stuff of the past, but I know he's laser focused on what we got coming up. Tony Gurman, Buck I have a, Mac and one of your kid playing backyard games about the game, what team are you playing for? Honestly, I wasn't, I was never really a, a buck I fan until, you know, I really committed here and I saw what it was all about.

29:55I was actually an Oregon fan growing up, especially on the Pacific Northwest. You know, my grandpa went to UW and stuff like that. So I like the Huskies too, but there was a legendary football player named Foto Liatto from my high school and he went to Oregon. And a couple of y'all probably know that story from a couple of years back, but he tragically died in the car accident. You know, he was, he was someone I looked up to in high school. You know, I was relatively close with him even though he was a bit older than me in age, but I'm just seeing what he did at my high school and then going on to play big time football out Oregon. That was a school that I really dreamed of going to. They build a bit like this back. I think actually another Jeremiah question, but I asked it. Is there one moment, one play, one something that made you just go, oh man, I've never seen it before. That's just incredible. Yeah, I'll say it's happened multiple times. There's not really one. I can pinpoint, but the more he does it, the more I tend to react less. So I would say probably my earliest memories of it were in spring ball.

30:56Kind of getting the first glimpse of him when he's making all these ridiculous catches and he still does it time and time again even now, but it's just more common now for me. The land is one that's been taken to the North. But you had, I think, was 12 touches in the first game against Oregon, 10 or so just two carries. Is there something about this matchup that favors you? And now that you have, where that productive, the first time you played this team, what kind of attention? Or I guess maybe different defenses are you expecting to see? Yeah, I mean, we're not entirely sure what their game plan is going to be, but we're paired for everything. You know, I'm not going to get too much into scheme and stuff like that, but we know that if the ball comes our way, we've got to make those plays. So whether I have 10 receptions again coming up this game where I have zero or one, we're just looking to get this win on the road, because it's really a road game for us, you know, flying across two times on. So I think that, you know, it's going to be a great matchup, whether they tend to focus on me more or not. It doesn't really matter to me because I know our team has a great plan regardless.

31:58So a couple more questions, Spencer, over a letterman role? You guys ever surprised when the game ended? You look at it, it's actually a car, and I'll certainly ask him for the order to get it. You can kind of feel it throughout the game, I would say. You know, he's a true competitor. He wants to get involved, but at the same time, he's super selfless. I mean, he's really humble, so he's going to do whatever it takes for the team to get a win. But it's the competitor nature in him that wants to, you know, contribute as much as he can. So, you know, I try to be in his ear to tell him to be levelhead and stuff like that, not that I need to. He's a very level-headed and selfless guy, like I'm saying. But, you know, sometimes that's just how the game goes. You know, I had a game this year where I only had one catch. But, you know, we ended up winning by lot. So, I think that, you know, it's hard, or it's easy to be focused on the personal attributes that you could have game in and game out. But no one's really going to remember those if we're holding up the trophy at the end of the year. He could be a number one, like, 95% of the balls were going up, and he's like number three. You see his work as a ball of those things that he doesn't have to be deployed.

32:58You guys ever come back and like, yeah, this guy can absolutely be a number one on the most golf ball. I would disagree with you. I think that he is a number one. I think that we don't have a number three receiver. I think we have three number one receivers out there. So, whatever the defense, you know, if they want to put their attention on one guy or a couple of us, they're not really doing themselves any favor because we're going to have a favor, we'll match up on the other side of the ball. That's never how we view ourselves. We know we're alpha dogs out there every single one of us. Knows we have the capability to be a number one receiver and we are number one receivers. And final question. Steve, how long has it been 24 hours? Yeah, and McAdda, at the end of that game, you made one of the clutch plays that passed down the sideline. At any time when you make that play, you think, did you ever, your mind that we're going to win this game after we're now close to field goal range? I mean, did that play in your mind, say, my goodness, we've got a chance to get out of here with the win. Yeah, I definitely knew where I caught the ball and I knew we were, you know, close to being in field goal range. So, you know, there was a sense of, you know, I knew I knew it was a big play that I made, but in those moments, you have to finish out the game.

34:02No matter what, you can't get a big head, you can't get complacent, you have to finish the game until the clock hits zero. So, that's something we've been working on, you know, we work on two minute every single Wednesday. Every single Wednesday practice. So today we'll work on our two minute and we don't even call it two minute. We call it clutch because in those times, in those games, in those big moments, someone has to make a clutch play. So, we're focusing on that every single game, knowing that we're going to have to make one of those plays coming down the stretch here. What would it mean if you're able to finish this one off and get to the final floor of this playoff? Just what, in your mind, just, would this be, you know, just the ultimate, I suppose, to be a team that's already beaten earlier this year? No, I think the ultimate would be winning the national championship. You know, we're focused on, this just happens to be the next team in the way. We're not focused on, when we played them earlier this year, whether they got the win over us, they're just a nameless, faceless opponent. So, we're going out there, fully prepared, not worried about what's happening in the past. You know, we played them before, we felt them out, so it's all about who got better from that point in time until now.

35:04I'm happy to thank you for your time. Thank you. We plan as much, so I just wanted to get, like, more experience under my belt, so I can, you know, bring younger guys with me because I've been through a lot of it. One of those younger guys, we're seeing it out here, it's the first time, it's hard all year, actually. What have you seen from Will? Because, kind of, I've never really ever got about it because he was hurt, now he's running, you know, almost a second man out of the human tie. What have you seen in the memories of the tournament? Well, as a workhorse, he goes, stay quiet, he goes, work hard, and that's what I love about him. He focuses, he don't really talk much, he's going to get the job done, do a job right, rarely has any mistakes. So what would be his accessible seat? A national tab, or so? A ring, when, all the games we don't want to lose anything, we've got a mindset that we can't be beat, and we just got to go show it. That mindset, different. It seems like you guys expect a national championship every year, this year even more so, you guys have all come back for this, you guys have all decided, like, that nothing's going to happen.

36:05Does that keep feeling different, or is it not really any different, it's just the same word? It's definitely a difference, everyone working harder, we noticed our last run, and most of us don't have any years after this, so we've got to go bigger, go home, and we're not trying to go home. Finish big. We know what you guys think of Michigan, but when you look at what they did, they won the national championship, and you guys took them down to the final minute, right? You know what I mean? You were right there, something goes a little different, you guys could have won that game against them. Does that tell you anything about like that, hey, you guys want to win a national championship, but you played to the 59th minute, with the team that won the national championship last year, like you're that close? So I'm saying, we just work harder, that's kind of a coach makes a saying, nobody cares, just work harder. Like, when we played Georgia, it's the same thing, last play, they went on the winning at E. So we just got to get over that hump at the end of the season, I think we'll be fine. How frustrating is that, you're that close against the last two national titles?

37:08Of course it's frustrating, but you can't change the outcome, you can't really dwell on it. You just got to come back and work harder, do things better than you did last year, and hopefully the outcome will change. Is that as you get older, you kind of learn, I thought I was working hard, and then you always find out there's a little more you could have been doing? That's what growing up is basically in college, and I thought freshman year I was working as hard as I could, but now I look back at it, I really wasn't working hard at all, compared to what I'm doing now, so just to learn anything. What do you need it to be to be your best player? It's 85, it's all on me, I think it's a little higher, I was just trying to be funny, but I mean it's all on me, I just got to run harder, get the shape. But the STEM I do, you have to have it, it's been a pleasure. The idea of the potential is 16, 17, 17, 17, 17, 17. Besides about that idea, does it make you nervous about can you last that long, do you really need a word, you're just wishing a ride out there?

38:14I think I definitely can last, I was just, you know we got to get the young guys to come along with us, we can't play 50 Snaps a Game, that's just too much on our bodies, just everybody, like O'Line D-Line, we got to get those younger guys to play. You know, get depth pieces on the D-Line and O-Line, and everywhere else, so we can last that long ride. Speaking of that, was that a life plan that you snatched again last year? I don't know if any of us were really expecting that next time. Yeah, I did, unless we were like winning by like a lot. I thought like there are no moments you know I can go sit down or something, but we're not playing them big games, like you know, Notre Dame, too, or North, those kind of games. Of course I want to be, because I know I can contribute, and I won't want to put that on anyone else when I know I can get the job done. What stands out about Kevin McDonald is he got that team, and you guys look second-hand. Oh yeah, definitely, K-Mac is a K-Mac animal, y'all, you haven't really seen the yet, but in practice he shows all the time, he's just, he's growing right now, he has the work ethic, he just has to get, you know, in the playbook, things like that.

39:16You guys are about the exact same size, you're both, listen to 6th or you're 327, he's 326. Yeah, I kind of look at him like my junior, but you know K-Mac, he's going to be a great player, he's just got to develop more and get in the playbook. So really a lot on you older guys, there's that large group of young guys, and then there's the seniors in the back, is that part of your task for this year to bring those guys along as well? Yeah, definitely, we got to be leaders, like I said, we got to have them play this year, we can't just play all the snaps, they got to get in there and get some work, and we got to get them right, they're in all season, so they can play, and I just play, they want to contribute, like make plays, tackle his steps. It seems like these guys get bigger, each one of the freshmen class is bigger or bigger, and those guys kind of, it doesn't kind of allow you in the cell. Yeah, they definitely do, and they all work hard, I've only seen much of some of the day too when I'm not passing on, but throughout the workouts they've been working hard, you know, they're determined.

40:16I can say that, and it looks like they're ready to work with me. How important this notes feels like, there's a lot of great defenses there, you have big athletic defensive tactics, you can eat up space, but also move, you know, right? Did it happen? Is that an environment maybe for a great defense? To have guys like you that have some balls, but also a great feature? I think that is definitely, I think if you look at the last couple of national championship winners, like Team up North, they got two good, two athletic detacles, look at Georgia, two athletic detacles. I think that's definitely neat if you want to go on that big run, there'll be those big teams. If you think about this, they won't be satisfied by the defense attack, it's like, what's Georgia, Jordan Davis and DL Carter, what's Michigan, it's Chris Jenkins. A couple more questions for you. You might as well ask how, I mean, you understand it because you play it, but I feel like some time I don't know, are people realizing how important defense tackles are?

41:18A little bit more than they used to? I think so. I think they're starting to develop more and more of these like freakiest detacles. Yeah, like in the combine, just now you see in like those guys, they're moving four and a four seven eights and things like that. And when you think about those freakiest attack, how do you think you fit into that mold of that kind of player? You watch that and say, yeah, that's me. Yeah, definitely. I think I'm top notch when it comes to detacles, but I don't want to, you know, get a big head, but you know, watch the come on. I watch the doodoo drills. I have a tape to you, like, you're looking like my film. So I think I'm up there with all this. I think you become like a artist and it comes in bad young passes. I think your legs have your things. I mean, you're going to bring practice. You're not doing as much a weapon on the weapon. How do you work on that? Do you have like a goal? I don't remember how many Adlaid's you're going to have? I mean, as many as I can have, I think I have more than that, but I think they've counted.

42:18I think they've counted some of them and some of them were like just listed. But I think we work on drills matching the hand. I think that's, uh, goes big. What we do is a D line, you know, just affecting the quarter of that is. Any way you can is just great for the defense. You know, just that little thing covering his eye, you know, he might throw it a little bit to the left to our player. So it's something that you really, really have to work on. You do that with what you do. It's really, that's one of the things that you've maybe worked on the most. You're trying to hear because there are a few guys that I've seen. Like, oh, that pass through the back. We don't have that. We kind of kind of expected. I think I just have like a, like, a eye for the ball kind of, I kind of just look at the quarterback and just, I see him like load up. I just try to get in his ways. And sometimes he's those. I'm here to do it to the Ohio State quarterbacks. I mean, they get frustrated, but you know, we're a team, you know, we're just getting better. I've got you a lot of, a lot of different backs, man.

43:18They just learn to grow for them. You got to pick your top three backs. You got to go right now. 12. Uh, I don't really have a top three, but I'll give you, I'll give you one. I would say, say, Juan Gibbs and I like McCaffrey. Auto, he was injured this year. I like McCaffrey. I appreciate it. Who's the best back in this drive? Best back in this drive. I lead out of the yard. That's y'all. That's y'all decision. Playing with Will Howard, what I'm going to remember most. We're a Howard, man. He's just such a great leader, such a great leader, man. It's just like in moments where, you know, usually a lot of players, they fold, man. He was just always calm and relaxed, man. He, just the leader that he was, man, that's one thing I'm going to remember about him. Yeah, he's, he's going to be really good, man. He's on Coach Lock.

44:18I think he got the transfer in as well from West Virginia. Just that one, two punch with them both as well. They're going to be really good backs. And so James people's, man, he's smart the way that he goes about his business, man. He's mature. And so man, he's growing, you know, just as a person and as a player. And so man, yeah, definitely Ohio State, you know, that running back room is in great hands. And so, he's right there looking at the U.S. spot and then on this top of the race, he has a personality and a coach of defense. And so, you know, same way. Yeah. Coach, Coach Hartline, man, he's full of energy, man. And he's creative as well, you know, I'm just learning from him as well, you know, trying to run more outside the backfield. It was being able to learn from Coach Hartline. And so he's definitely creative at what he does. And he brings a lot of energy to the team as well. And so I think that would do really good. And you're running this way for the playoffs. That's what we want to say to the top. Just the intensity, man. And the intensity of the playoffs, every game, man, is like the intensity got, you know, higher and higher. And so, you know, being able, I know in the lead, it's the same thing.

45:20Even if it's not the playoffs, just every game and the intensity, it keeps getting higher and higher. And so, yeah, you just, I know you got to bring it, you know, each and every day and come in and work. And just like Ohio State, you know, I definitely feel like Ohio State, they definitely do a good job of preparing us for that. You know, I just remember even before going through this process, I'll talk to a lot of players before that. And they told me a lot of just about how much Ohio State prepared them, you know, for the NFL. And so, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I know I took a couple days off after the National Championship. And then, shoot, right after that, I'm writing Tampa, Florida and I'm right to it. And so, yeah, I think while I trained, I trained at YoMurf Performance. I think it's called the House of Athlete or the Compound now. They did a good job, man. They're just bringing us in and the way they went about training us, man, they did a really good job. The Bucking Nears, no, I haven't.

46:21Tampa, Tampa, nice. It's a nice city, man. Really nice. Really nice. The 40, the broad and the vert. You've been on the races, it's an awesome locker. Do these beat-tier mentality of like when you've got a linebacker, so you're in the gap, you're bigger than you, and you're in red. It's more like a locker. Yeah. Yeah. No, man. It's really all about technique. And then, it's about mindset as well. And so, I say, you know, it's for the love of my brother. It's for the love of Will Howard. It's for the love of the receivers who I got on the perimeter. Just making sure, you know, first of all, my quarterback doesn't get sacked. And I tell Will, I think it was before the first game. I was like, I got your brother. It's, I said, man, I'm not going to let you get hit, you know. And so, I don't know if I gave up a sack, I'm not sure that. But I know if I did, I haven't given up too many. And so, man, it's for the love of my brother, it's the man. Making sure the ball get in their hands, you know, the guys on the outside and making sure they get fed.

47:21You had to hit the practice field later today. What is something you've been working on right now when you need to start? In my game, you can't really work on this, you know, in all season, I feel like. It's more so, you know, you got to put the pads on. You got to go through some inside run, you know, maybe. It's really just continuing to run through tackles. And so, that's, I feel like that's one of the areas in my game. You know, I want to continue to get better at it. I feel like I did a good job of that in my senior year. And so, I just want to continue to build on that. So, you get all the way to the stage. Yes, I did. So, people say you look like, I'm going to bar out there. You get back in your seat. I can melt a little bit more. I did meet with New Orleans as well. I never got that comparison. Actually, I know I have a Camarit. Sure, yeah, man, I have a Camarit. Great, great back, man. Just what he does and those 101 matchups, he's dangerous, man. And he's so smooth. He's so smooth as well. I'm not going to lie, he's smooth. So, I mentioned to play the ball. Yeah. Inside zone from stack.

48:23Being able to hit that thing downhill. And I'll say the next one is probably just an option out of the backfield. You know, a man and man coverage. You're getting on that linebacker. And so. Yeah, I say the man the biggest thing is the way that he carries himself, man. And the way that man, he approaches the game. He comes in with the mindset, you know, he's going to work every single week. You know, every practice, you know, he's working hard. You know, even shoot him. I don't know. I think he had every game was a good game for him, man. And so, but still, man, he always has the mentality of mindset that, you know, he's going to come in each and every day he's going to continue to work and get better, man. And so, he's definitely man. He's going to be a special player, man. He really is. is. Man, a lot of ups and downs man, it's just how you respond to adversity and I feel

49:33like that's something that God has definitely helped me to do better. It's just not have something to lean on now. You know, I remember before I met him, you know, going through those adversity, I had nothing to run to, you know, you can run to people but they still can't, it's not too much, they can't truly help you. You know, I feel like, you know, I feel like the only person that can truly help you is your relationship with Jesus Christ. And so being able to lean on him, you know, he gives you, in those moments where it's tough, you know, where it's low. And when you're behind the scenes and you're going through things that people don't know about, he gives you, he gives you that peace and comfort, you know, even in those moments, man, where it's so hard that you can't, you can't explain. It's like, man, I'm going through this but like, how am I still filled with this internal joy? You know, how do I have so much peace in this situation? And so that's something that only Jesus Christ can give you. And so, you know, the back of the firm, the power of judgment, which aspect that each of those other individuals have chewed on to the model and from being around power and... Man, those guys have such a great mentality, man. Am I just really loved their mentality,

50:39especially Q as well, you know, I talked about Will Howard, his leadership, but Quinch, Sean, mentality, man, that boy just, yeah, that boy just gifted, you know, you see, you know, sometimes he put in a situation where he looked like, you know, he should have a negative five yards, and then as soon as you know it, you know, he, they're running through somebody, still forming somebody and she was just gaining a 10. And so... You some of the things he does, he just realizes two different guys. Yeah, um, shoot, I think... Yeah, man, I think it's just like, he's just gifted, man, too, beyond it. He's just gifted, you know, he's a big back, you know, he's strong, and so, you know, he's able to do those things. And so, yeah, man, it's definitely, you know, I look at his game, and I want to, you know, at the same time, I want to learn from Quinch, you know, I want to look at this game, it's like, man, where, where can I get better at as well? You know, that's the type of player I am. I'm always looking to get better, man, I'm always looking to grow as a player. Julian Sand, oh yeah, he's gonna be a great, but he's gonna be a great quarterback, man, he's so,

51:39so accurate, and so, um, he's definitely, man, I know Coach Dez definitely gonna get him right, just, you know, um, container grow as a leader, container grow as a player. And so, he's going, he's gonna be really good for a high state. He's a, I know just the quarterback position, um, I feel like, you know, the quarterbacks in the past, they've, they've definitely been vocal, and so I feel like that's something that they're definitely going to, um, ask Julian Sand as well, is to be that vocal leader and lead, um, and lead the offense and lead the team. Thanks, thanks, thanks, thanks, thanks, thank you. Shoot, man, he has, he has a build like, JK Dobbins, and um, I kind of see them, you know, similarities in their game as well, and I know JK Dobbins, he was a great running back. Um, I feel like he's not talked about his none. Um, a lot, but man, his career here, you watch his highlights is, is great. I remember, um, before I recruit, before I committed here, I remember watching JK Dobbins highlights, like every, every, um, one of his years here, like four or five times. And so, man, he was such a great back. And um, I feel like, you know,

52:42when I see JK Dobbins, when I see, um, James people, I see similarities to both of their games, I feel like they play the same. And so, appreciate you all. Yeah, I'll be going.

54:37Yeah. Well, I got coming in last year, I knew the role, so I just attacked every day, really the same way. It's taking the van's area, right? Physically, how different are you? Weight-wise, body-wise, all that from the year. Um, I think I got a lot bigger. I'm like 240, you know, like 240, 44 right now. Last year, I played at like 236, 237. What does it feel like at 244? I don't know. You feel like almost a different machine out there. Yeah. What does it, what does it feel like to be running around out there like you are, but with more, more back? I just feel like I'm like, like, like more downhill, like stronger, like I'm taking all blocks better. It's bigger. Yeah. Is it daunting? Uh, maybe that's not the correct term, but to think you're going to be playing

55:39much more than you did even last year and you played quite a bit last year instead. Yeah. What do you have to get straight in your head about being on the field that much more? Just got to get ready to just play 30 more snaps, so. How would you describe how much you're looking forward to it from an 8-stand point? I'm looking forward to it. I'm ready for it. My, I'm ready for it. The text is open. It's a rematch and so to say, but it's not really two different teams compared to the ones that I'm going to play and stuff. How has that enhanced this camp for you and this team getting ready for the, we're an opener of that magnitude? Yeah, with an opener like that, we've been, um, we've been emphasizing it a lot. We know we got coming, so we know we got to do, we've been prepared for it. I already just probably worked today. Yeah, I think Rowley ready to play right now. He advanced freshman, like he ended up here in the book. He stood in like he advanced and his measurements was crazy. Like he saw like the saw line too. Or like you said you're ready. What was that process like during last season?

56:40Could you feel yourself becoming more and more ready for wherever the team needed for you? Yeah, because that's pretty much what my role was, just whenever I was needed I had to step up, so I feel like that's what built me into me being able to say I'm ready for this year. When you say ready, is it more a physical thing? Is it a mental thing? When I say ready, I think it's pretty much like everything physically, mentally, mostly. I think I'm there. A different is that feeling this year of the analyze? I asked that one more time. How different is that response? I feel like it's a way bigger responsibility with me having to step up this year, but I kind of go about it the same way. Like last year I was intentional with everything I did. I feel like this year is going to be the same thing. It's probably a little bit more. For somebody who's some reason, I'm sorry.

57:43It won't work? How's everybody working? I say, describe my game. I say, like when you think of me, you would think of like a like a bullet, like a silver bullet. I don't really a bullet. I'm always on the ball. That's how I like to play a thing. What do you want to embody that? No, I ain't got to be my nickname, but I'm saying that the thing to be that's so important. Oh yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's like, think it fit me because I don't know, I just like the defense. I feel like we got, like you said, we got a lot of freedom and we're moving around a lot a lot of the times. Just like, you know, I don't know. I don't really not answer that. I don't even know if I say that because there's a lot of thinking going on, but it's like,

58:45I just like it's deep, I like how the pressure deep is. I like what he got going on. What was it sad when CJ left the match? Uh, now I wanted to say that I was kind of like happy fun. Like, yeah, that's what you want. No, no. No, that's my dog. I'm going to say yeah, kind of missing a little bit, but yeah, I'm happy fun. I don't think go ahead one last question. Coach Daze talked a lot about the guys who played some last year, but maybe weren't the starters and the hunger for that wasn't maybe your national championship. You guys know how much do you feel that as a guy who certainly contributed last year, but will be in this bigger role and along the summer year. Your classmates? Yeah, I do feel like, um, yeah, I do feel like I did win a national championship, but like you said, my role wasn't same as how it's going to be this year. So yeah, I definitely want to go get another one experienced that like feeling maybe on the field, a lot more place. It's great. Oh, Bill, thank you very much. Thanks. Here, I want to be a part of this team and you know, when you when you when you want to and you

59:47have passion to add value, uh, that makes it a little easier to get up and do the workouts in the off season, um, you know, whether you're 22 or going to be 31. Um, so yeah, I mean, it's, it's definitely special. You talked about the organizational movement. I mean, they have always had this work as a reputation of rewarding the players. You see this off season, St Brown, golf, you know, a name, not yourself. What does what does it say about the organization that you know, you feel like it's changing the reputation a little bit? We're worthy guys like this. Well, first and foremost, those three guys absolutely deserving of every penny they got, um, incredible. And you know, me being in the room with Penae every single day, like I was, you know, ecstatic for him. Um, and of course the other guys, but Penae is, he's my line. He's my guy. Um, I think it speaks to a good culture that's been built, um, and it's not built on sand. It's, it's genuine. It's real. Um, you bring certain guys in because of what they can add, not just as players, but as people. Um, and like I said, it's,

1:00:57it's a genuine thing that the, that the staff is looking for. And it's not, oh, we're just going to bring this guy in and then get rid of him and try to find something cheaper. Um, I just think it speaks to the culture. We find guys that fit, we find guys that represent what we are about. Not only are they phenomenal players, um, but they represent us. They represent the city. Um, and to be able to keep a core group of guys around, I feel like more and more in the NFL, you got guys coming in and out. Um, and it's hard to develop kind of some cohesiveness. And especially us on the offensive line, we got to play together for a long time now. Um, that's valuable. I mean, it's, that's big time. And then you think even the quarterback position, where his drops are, how he moves in the pocket, things like that. And then Jared and his familiarity with, with Saint. Um, I think it speaks to, they want to win. We want to win. This is what we're here to do. We're here to win. So we're going to keep our guys. They can help us win. Um, yeah.

1:01:59We can express your desire to stay, but it didn't sound like anything was imminent. Can you just take us through how this came together from your perspective? Um, so I bring, I've been going back and forth a little bit for probably about a year and a half now with, with the organization, because I knew like, I want to be here. Um, there was no, no questions for me like, this is the place I want to be. I want to stay here. Um, and then there's just a lot of moving parts. I'm not the only person in this organization. I'm not the only guy that wants to contract extension. Um, and then I think, coming off two surgeries, I think they probably wanted to see how I was moving around a little bit. And then in OTAs, I actually went up and I had a conversation with them. I was like, where, where are we at? You know, I hear things from my agent. Um, and, you know, from our, our salary cat people and their talk and I'm getting it kind of second hand information. I want to hear it. Like, tell me where we're at just so I know I just want the information so it's communicated well. Um, and

1:03:01pretty much what he told me was to it to you what happened. Um, and I just basically had to, had to stay patient. And, and for me, it was never going to be hold out of training camp. If it comes to the season, we're not going to play games like, uh, that's just not me. Um, I'm going to show up and I'm going to play because that's what I do and that's what I'm here to do. So I think it was pretty seamless. I just talked to Charlie and Disneyer upstairs and said it was super smooth. I think it happened in a day, um, which was pretty much how my, my second one happened and my third one happened as well pretty quickly. So I think there's, uh, I think there's value in just showing up and, and going to work. And, uh, I think the team knows that I'm not going to change if just because I'm not getting what I want when I want it. Um, and then ultimately we both got what we wanted. Um, so for me, it was just I got the information that I wanted from Dan and when we

1:04:03communicated, man to man and it was very amicable. And since that conversation, I felt like it was promising that it would happen. I didn't know when exactly. I had a ballpark idea. Um, and then it all worked out. You know, I showed up to camp. I went and played and the agents and the salary kept people do their thing and now, you know, moving forward, I can just focus on playing football going through camp day to day. I don't have to have any of that hanging over my head and, um, it's pretty good feeling. You know, there's, there's a couple times every single camp where Dan will come into the offensive line room and he'll say, I need to see it today. Um, and I've never had a head coach come in our room

1:05:12and say say something like that. And he would pop in every now and then and just say like, today, I need to see it from you guys. Not that we're not out there working hard every single day, but he's like, my eyes are on you guys today. Um, and it seems like a lot of those times, they're kind of some ballbuster practices that are, they're going to be kind of a grinded out and that's what offensive line is. Um, and I think you see it with the way they draft, they draft guys and the trenches and even Dayton back to before they were hired. This organ is it. I was drafted, Graham was drafted, Joe was always drafted in my class. Um, Frank was draft, like we were drafting lineman. We were trying to build this team the right way. Um, and we had some pieces and then, uh, Brad and Dan just continued to build on that. Um, and I think it's paying dividends. And I can't speak enough to, you know, going back to the culture fit of the quality of people that they bring in and how when you get along, I don't know, just people's play flourishes even more.

1:06:16And that's, that's another big reason like this is where I wanted to be. Like I had pretty much no interest in going to any other team. I wanted to be here and a big factor of that is the guys that I get to play with and I want to continue to play with them because they're important to me. And I think, you know, the offensive and defensive line based on how the drafts have gone and based on the quality of player that they've brought in. I mean, you can see that it's, uh, it's definitely of importance to the organization. Kind of along the same lines, given where the roster is, given the success of the teams that had recently, is there something extra validating about getting your first contract extension under this specific regime? Yeah, 100%. Um, not that I didn't think that they wanted me here because if they didn't want me here, I wouldn't be here. Um, but I had gotten my second contract from, from, you know, a previous regime basically. Um, it's not like I never felt like I was like

1:07:17wanted here, but it's just like that little extra. Hey, we want you here and we want you to continue to add value, um, because we were a young team and I'm not getting any younger. Um, but I still think I can play and I think I can play for as long as I want. And that's kind of kept me young and I feel like that's kept me, um, motivated to kind of have that edge. But yeah, I mean, it's just that, that little extra where just kind of reconfirmed. So I mean, when Dan was hired, he called me that same day. So it's not an instance of, oh, I'm not wanted here. They just kind of doubled down with this contract. We, we love you, we respect you. We want you here. We think you can play. We think you can continue to add value. And, and let's get this thing going. Thanks, guys. You guys travel, your fans travel very well, but obviously this game is in Dallas.

1:08:22Do you guys kind of thrive and like the playing front of hostile crowds? I think guys kind of like going in enemy territory sometimes. You know, it feels good being a little bit of the villain you could say, but uh, yeah, I mean, obviously you got to taking the fact that it isn't in Texas. So it could be a lot of environment. It could be like an away environment. We obviously know that, but I mean, that's right. Where you put the ball down, we're just going to come show up and play. And I think there's a staff that you guys, that your opponents have not been called for a holding call since September or something like that. Is that something that you guys are aware of? And do you guys point out on the film? Anything called out? One of them, they didn't call that one. Yeah, we're aware of this that. We don't pay attention to too much. So you guys just play. Um, you know, we really got too much to say about that. You got to just play through it and just let your, let your talent take over. Don't let it come down to a refecision. Well, we're here to the right Austin Ward for podcast. So I mean, it didn't feel like against Oregon that you guys had two bullets as much as you had in maybe some other games in the second half of the

1:09:24season. Why is that? What does it allow the linebackers to do when you don't have that responsibility? What, what made that a successful approach on Wednesday? Yeah, I think, uh, when you got a as talented as guys, we do a front with those four guys up front. I mean, a four man pressure is feeling like a six man pressure to the quarterback. So you're able to drop out and be able to drop everyone else in the coverage. So it makes a lot easier on our defense when the defensive line is just taking over like that. I mean, it's, it's tough for an offense to do anything. We got four, four man, four man rush feel like a zero coming at you. And then you got everyone dropping in the coverage. It's kind of just shout over the field. So I mean, it's definitely makes the defense a lot easier for everyone else when the defense line's playing like that. Jim Knowles talked about this a little with having so many veteran players that you could make different game plans. You don't have to just be, you know, pigeonholed into one thing. We have to week. Does it feel when you get in there and you guys start game planning like they are very different for every opponent for you guys at this point? I mean, I don't know if I'll say that. I think they

1:10:28keep it simple enough where guys aren't like confused when we're doing. I mean, might, like, look like that for like the quarterback. We might be giving different looks and things like that. But I don't think it's over complicated at all. But I mean, that might just be because we got a veteran defense as well. So it could be a little bit biased. But that's kind of the way it feels. It doesn't feel overly complicated when I got. I'm going to Joey Coppen Columbus this back. How do you think it's helped you guys to put Caleb Downs, Jack Danmore into the box. Later, late in the season, I've been doing that. It seems like more. How does it help you guys? Yeah, I mean, I think both of our safeties have done a really good job, you know, dropping down in the box again, coming down fast and running, running support. I mean, I think when you see guys coming from 12 yards and they're making tackles or two yards games, it's all that's pretty impressive. I mean, you saw Latham's last game come from the weak side, boundary hash, about 10, 12 yards. You come down, hit the dude at two yards and then home was knock him out. So I mean, both our safeties are. They're super impressive in the run game. So it definitely makes the health of the defense.

1:11:29You know, usually you're dropping the safety in, usually those four yard runs, five yard runs, and where they're stopping for two yard runs, no yard runs. So it's super impressive and it helps the defense out a lot. We'll go to Jeremy Birmingham, the podcast. So how much does the defense structurally changed since the Oregon game in engaging or is more of a loss of time, like you guys just being more veteran and knowing the defense better, or has there been fundamental changes that have been made? Because it looks a lot different. Yeah, I mean, I think there's been some changes, but I think a lot of it's been a mentality of trying to be more aggressive, that we're just trying to, it's having an aggressive mindset. I think you've seen that when it showed up on tape with the pressures, the TFLs and things like that. And I think we've gotten a lot better since the beginning of the year. And we've kind of improved on the issues that've shown up each week because the issues are always there. And I think we've improved on those really well. And then obviously looked like completely different team now.

1:12:31Different aggressiveness from the coaching staff. So it's not just coach, you know, individuals, position coaches like coach, or not, but even from my day, like, it's, has he been a different type of leader? I think he's been a great leader the whole year. And I think after that team on Norfolk, we kind of hunkered down and say like, hey, we're going to, we're going to get up and we're going to start swinging. And we're going to keep swinging as hard as we can. And see what happens at the end of the game. And I think that's what we've been doing the past two games, and it's worked out pretty well. Next to Mick Walker, Letterman Rowe. Sonny, you mentioned a great kind of earlier. What stands out to you about Gunner Hellman? How do you kind of take out a guy that's at such a focal point for us? I think he runs great routes. He has good hands. I think they set up some really nice plays for him. You see some of those plays where he kind of sneaks out of the protection and comes out, comes out wide open. I think the biggest thing that stands out is probably the routes in the hands. He's super impressive for a tight end. You know, obviously, you always be aware of where he's out on the field. And there's going to be

1:13:34some explosive plays set up for him. Any other questions here? Absolutely. Yeah. Letterman Rowe. I'm sorry. Good minute eruption. Jerry. When you were in a nutshell, how would you describe him to someone? Because he seems even more effective when he kind of gets out of the pocket or moves around and stuff. Sonny, what do you see when you think of him? I would say the capability of like early on the game, now him getting his routine, like some of those routine throws, routine throws, they run the ball, then it's play action shot, 50 yards, not feel. It's like that. I think he's a super good job with that. Be that with a cell to play action and pull the safety's up and then hit you down, feel with a 60 yard bomb like that. So I think that's the biggest thing that stands out to me on film. He's a super talented quarterback, super talented arm talent. He can get the ball out in many different ways. But that's probably how I put it in the show. He's just super talented player. He can make any throw on the field. Like he said, he can move around a little bit. I don't think

1:14:37people respect that enough of his legs. He can move around and extend the plays and hurt you down, feel. Did he really add the guy he used to be in this building, at least for four or five months? I wasn't really here with him, but I don't think it's really odd. You played some former players before, but obviously he's a talented player. I think a lot of guys have a lot of respect for him. So it's just going to be a good match. I'm excited for it. We'll go to Bill Rebellion. Columbus this batch. Adam, the win will talk to you next. I'll ask you now. I'm sure the last year on your line, we talked about. Do you have any idea what you're going to do about next year? I mean, obviously you can go to the NFL. Do you have any thoughts on that right now? No, I haven't thought about it at all. Just worry about winning. Got you. That's it from Columbus for sunny styles. Any more on your end? No more on our end. Thank you, sunny. Thank you. My reps and he's had his first year of game time reps with those third downs and things like that. I think he's came in and done his job pretty well. But I think he's just already trust each week. We have to wake up the week. He's our entrust with coach Nose. So I think he's

1:15:43going to keep it better. I'm proud of him. I don't know. Honestly, I don't know. He wrote both of you good hits. Yeah, I mean, I think Coach Day talked about all the time when you go out there and play a game, where you go on the game, there's going to be individual players on both sides of the ball that are setting the tone. For example, you see like, like, you can play the word in that running back or in the game. I feel like that sets a tone. Or you see our old line firing off the ball, putting people on their back, tra-traveeing on the gunshot running through people like that sets a tone. And I think the rest of the team beats off the energy. So it definitely does something.

1:16:46I mean, yeah, obviously what sets a tone is the lineback. You would be physical. You wouldn't let it go. You wouldn't let it go. You wouldn't let it go. You wouldn't let it go. I know we'd be here for quarter quarters. But I'm not chasing after the play. But I mean, definitely feels good to be the one set the tone. But I think that we've got a variety of backs. Running backs that are all explosive love. They got 24. They got the other kids 20. That needs to be in the field player. And then also another part of the right game is quarterback. He's very explosive. He runs hard. But I think there's just a variety of ways they can do it. And they're very physical and with the way they run the ball. I think as a whole other dimension to the game, as a whole other dimension to the game. And obviously, you have a quarterback running the ball. I have to actually have extra hat in the box or extra blocker. So I kind of mess with the deepest sometimes. Sometimes sometimes you may have that brain extra head to the box and match with that. So it can be a little tricky sometimes. Yeah, I think he's the interest either or.

1:17:53I think sometimes the scrambles are more dangerous. You've got guys dropping over the covers, taking their eyes off the first that get kind of opens up the field form. That's like a guaranteed like 10 yards. You don't have someone's buying them. So that that can hurt you. You feel like you have one cover in the turn around. He's he's springed down the field for 10, 15 yards. There's a tough play. We covered three. We got to protect the inside first. It's fast guy. But I think you got to get hands on him. You got to collision him. The mess of the timing on the route. That's why I wanted to do everything. The only way to look is if you can get more of the DB on the line. I'm going to be a younger or probably receiver. I don't know if you can play that. Probably more receiver. He was always like so exposed to his forms and many touchdowns. But as we got the high school, I could see like his build and his speed and size and his

1:18:56county. We definitely work at DB as well. So I was pretty interested to see if he was ever going to switch to DB, which obviously didn't have. You got to match your physicality. You got to match their will. I mean, when you say they find a way, I think that's something with their will and start with their head coach and coach Freeman. I think it does a great job with the team. And I think it flows all the way down through the players. I think the quarterback, Ryder Lennon, I think he's a huge part of that will to just get it done. Do you see a lot of times in like fourth and one, fourth and two or third and three, third and six. They give him the ball. I think that's their guy. I think he's a great competitor. He's a great leader. I think the offense fees off. I think he can continue to take steps in his career. He's still very young. So he has a lot of good football ahead of him. And obviously this whole office is just beginning literally. Your sense of like can you bury your ball fence and how things might be different for the offense? Yeah. Yeah. We haven't honestly even started install yet. So I haven't even got a lay of the

1:19:58land quiet yet. I'll probably take a look at just got our iPads within the last few days. So I'll try to take a sneak peek at what we have looking for. But you know, I know with him talking to Zach Irts, he does a great job of trying to get his playmakers involved, which I think we have a really good group of guys from the run-of-backs, the receivers and some solid tight ends as well. So I'm just looking forward to see where I fit into that. And you know, I think with him, his biggest things is making sure the playmakers are making plays and trying to fit the scheme around that, which is always good to hear. Good to see you too. This is what your fourth officer said he's adopted this. Yeah. It's easier if you want to do this. He's definitely you know an adjustment. Obviously when you're learning a new offense and it's kind of the same mentality I take into last year and years past where you kind of just want to take a day one approach. You kind of erase what you've learned in the past. But at the end of the day, I think, you know, schemes and NFL are relatively similar.

1:21:04It's just the names and the formations that may be a little different. So I just get used to the terminology and cliffs offense is just going to be something that's adjustment for all of us. But the good thing about it is I got some good time on my hands to really put some work in studying when I leave this place. So I could come in here and we have walkthroughs and we start to put our helmets on. We can really get the ground running. So so far it's we haven't learned anything yet. But my approach is the same. Try to take good notes in there. Ask good questions and then study on my own at night. Yeah. Yeah. I think I got some really good work down in Florida. Just working on my footwork. Just getting better at the top of my routes. Sharper on my speed cuts, dig routes, out routes. And just being cleaner with my footwork at the top of the routes. I think, you know, with a little bit of zone covers that we've seen in the past with some teams kind of running more to high-shel. You're going to get a little bit more of catch

1:22:07technique where guys are kind of sitting at the top of your route. So I want to be better at being efficient again. All those routes when the guys kind of sit in my depth, whether it's a 15-yard comeback or a 12-yard curl route, you know, being able to get out efficiently so I can create and keep the separation within my route. So obviously I'm always still working on my ball skills and making sure I'm just catching a lot of footballs in the all season, but just really being better at the top of the routes and you know, sharper out of my cuts is something that I think I can improve on. Good to see you too. You know, you're obviously one of the leaders of the team that's been in and with so many new faces, new players in the locker room. What is the challenge you're going to have in the other leaders in that locker room? Yeah. And landing with everything together, this is something new, different personality. Yeah, I think I think that's really started with Coach Quinn in the way he's really integrated everybody over the first two days. I think we haven't even gotten into X's and I was quite yet. We just really begin to know one another,

1:23:09getting out there with Chad and the strength coaches and getting some good workouts in, just kind of creating a fostering an environment where everybody's the same and continuing to have a competitive environment. I think that brings out the best in one another. And obviously, you know, you have guys like Zach Erts who's played a lot of football and won a championship, a Marcus Mariotta, obviously Bobby Wagner who's a future Hall of Famer. So you've got some guys who have been brought in here who know what it's supposed to look like at this level and for myself, I just want to continue to add my value and be even more vocal this year than I have in the past, especially with possibly a new quarterback coming in. I think that can really help our offense have, you know, some more unity with the guys who know what it looks like, helping bring those guys, the younger guys along. So I don't know if you had a chance, the lot can't spend opening press conference. You didn't want to use the word, uh, retail. Yeah. When it terms all the changes going on with the franchise, right. You would view everything of all the new changes, new coaching staff, all the new

1:24:10players. Is there a certain word you would use or how do you view kind of the whole brand, honestly, I just think of it as a new year. Um, just talking to Sam Cosme, we've been here for a few years. So there's a lot of new faces. I think, um, you know, this is probably the most, I would say, turnover we've had in the last few years. So, um, there's guys coming from all different areas, walks of life. And, um, but I think the one thing is the saying they're all coming in, looking for an opportunity to compete, taking another step in their careers and prove that they're one of the best players at the position. And I think Coach Quinn, um, has emphasized that we're going to have the opportunity to prove ourselves, um, whether you're a 10 year vet or a second year player, you know, this is a clean slate for everybody. So, um, I think it's just about getting on the same page, um, and joining coming in here and working together. And also, uh, just pushing each other in these workouts. And then when we start getting on the field, uh, really get that competition going, try to simulate, uh, as we go along in this all season process of how the games are going to be.

1:25:11Hey, hey, how are you doing? Good to see you again. Good to see you too. Yeah, I think Coach Quinn has really assembled a very unique group of coaches. There's multiple head coaches. There's multiple quarter, uh, coordinators have, uh, come from different places. And so, you have guys who have a lot of football experience, some have played, some have coached in big games. And then you bring in, you know, the talent that we have, defensively and offensively. And I just think you can feel the unity and the sameness and, and the message that he's trying to, um, preach to our team. And it's, we're going to be tough and we're going to be competitive, but we're also going to have fun. And he, like, I think he said in your guys interview, he said he likes to do, you know, hard shit with good people. So, um, I think that's fun. You know, a guy like me,

1:26:16likes to put my nose down and grind and work. So I know him and I are going to continue to hit it off. And, you know, it's just my job to help bring other guys along with me. Thank you, Lord. Very good. Look like sitting here next step as a vocal leader. Yeah. Do you think it's a number? What does that mean to you? Um, I think for me, I've grown a lot in my vocal leadership. I think I try to always find the balance of when to say something, when not to say something. I think I never want, I always wanted to be a person when I say something and mean something. Like you don't want to be, you're giving all the motivational speeches, but you're not backing up with your play or you're talking so much, your kind of message gets drowned out. And so it's kind of continuing to find that balance of when to say things and when to kind of just take a step back. But, um, I think I've gotten a really good feel of how to do that. I think obviously with a new coaching staff, you just try to understand what they, how they want things done and you try to, you know, bring what you do well into that. And you also try to encourage the guys who haven't taken

1:27:21those steps in their career to do that as well. So, um, I think for me is just really starting in my position group. I think we have, uh, still a very young group, um, kind of inexperienced for the most part. But I think we have a lot of talent in there and it's just my job and, and Bobby's job and, um, to continue to bring that group along, um, as we go throughout this season. Hey, what's Harry up in? I guess I guess I was just a lot of turnover work and just planning for a milestone person. Yeah. First, I was in the age somewhere, you need to be come to come in. Yeah, I hit it really hard this off season. So I kind of started training a little bit after the Super Bowl. So I got a good six to eight weeks in. So where I feel football ready right now, which is great for me because, you know, obviously we're probably having a mini camp at the end of this month. So that'll be, um, I'm already in football shape. So that's, that's excited to know that I'm ready to be able to run routes and get going with our quarterbacks and get going with

1:28:21our system. So, um, you know, as this off season goes on, I just trust the plan that Chad and, and the guys have here. I want to be here for all the workouts and things like that and be a part of the team building and, uh, just continue to learn the playbook as we start to install things and, be at a point where I could go out there and be confident in my game, what I've worked on this off season and, um, and put that into how that fits into this off. And so, um, I always try to pry myself on knowing multiple positions just to have be flexible for the team and be flexible for myself. So, um, I'll, I'll be ready for whatever they, wherever they put me. Ben, my phone, Hey, Terry, I'm sure you're facing a career. You're not surprised. You're going to have a new quarterback this year. Yeah. You never, um, well, I'm not saying never, but it's, it's always tough seeing like some of you build a really good relationship with, go on and, and move on in their career and especially your quarterback because as a receiver, you want to continue to try to build that chemistry. You know, I mean, that was only our first year playing

1:29:23with one another and I feel like, um, him and I had our, our, we made some great plays and we had some, you know, room for growth. And I think that comes with any new quarterback receiver relationship. And so, um, but to see him go in a situation where we'll have a chance to compete and play under a really good quarterback in Geno. Um, and I think he'll, he'll really like playing with receivers like, uh, well, throwing the receivers like lock it and, and, and Jackson Smith and Jigba and DK, you know what I mean? So I think he's going in a situation where if I have a chance to continue to show that he can play quarterback at a high level in the sleeve, which I still truly believe in. Um, we know this is a business and, you know, I think hopefully things work out for both sides, but, um, I always have a lot of respect for Sam. How he handled things good and bad last year. And, um, you know, I think he took a really big step in his career to continue to prove that he can play at a high level. Thank you guys. Good to see you. Yeah. Appreciate it.

1:30:37Yeah, that's it. We're done. Yeah. To get that call from Coach County made my day. I was so excited and my family was excited. And, you know, we're just, we're just so glad to be here and still water and, you know, to be here at Oklahoma State. Yeah. So compare, uh, or, or not more than Hattincans, this, he's still water. What's that, uh, transition? It's been great. You know, I, I, I tell you, there's probably a little, a little more similar similarities than there are differences, you know, both really good college towns, both great fan bases. Um, you know, not big, not, you know, just great college towns. So, um, you know, the people are awesome here and, um, you know, it's just, I'm just excited to be here. It's a, it's a, it's a beautiful place. I'm really enjoying it. Yeah, Coach, and give us some of the names that are, haven't really been talked about enough

1:31:39on the offensive line in your group that you think should be talked about more. So, the young names. Well, I mean, they're all, they're all worthy of being mentioned. I, I think they're all working really hard. They're all really good, good kids. Um, you know, the guys that stand out to me right now, I mean, in terms of just guys that have shown great leadership on Marcus Keener and Johnny Wilson. I mean, I really appreciated their leadership and, and, and how they've handled themselves because they've been here the longest and they've had to go through, you know, a couple off at the non-coaches, you know, and I know it's, the transition has been hard, but they've been awesome, you know, great leaders and, um, just, have done a really nice job in that regard. Some of the younger kids, I talked about, uh, you know, Bryce Bray, you know, he's a lecturer in freshman, but he, he's been competing at that

1:32:39left half of spot. He was starting for us with left half of this whole screen. So, going into the, in the fall, he's going to be competing with Dylan, Galowe, because Dylan started some, I think he like started six games last year. So, so that'll be a nice little battle, you know, Jacob Ferrell, I'm very impressed with him, you know, I've been impressed with that, with Hunter Wooders, you know, in terms of his toughness and, and how he's, uh, his work ethic. Um, so, uh, but there's a lot of, a lot of, a lot of good young guys that have been working really hard, you know, uh, Hunter Anthony and Ty Wolliams, I'm excited about those guys as well. I've got a good young coach. Thank you. Thank you for your time today and we're very welcome. Thank you. Thank you. So, you were, uh, coaching under Bill Snyder forever. Yeah, you could probably write a book about what you learned, but maybe in the synopsis, where did you learn from Snyder coaching? Jeez, well, I mean, just, um, we want to try to get better every day, you know, um, and never be satisfied,

1:33:47uh, and, uh, you know, he, he, he, he, he, he, he was, uh, very demanding, you know, very demanding on his players, he's demanding on his coaches. Uh, you know, he just, uh, very competitive, you know, and, and, and I've said this before, uh, there's just, there's a lot of similarities between, between these two programs, or maybe the personalities are different, but, you know, but, but, but, but, but, but, you know, when I first, first day, I got here, first day, our first staffman coach, kind of talked about, about us being a more tougher, more physical, more disciplined football team, and that's all coach Snyder taught, you know, those are the things he would talk about, you know, and, uh, just having us being, being, being, being, being the toughest, most disciplined team out there, and, and, and, and that's, you know, so it's like, it was left, we're hearing the same thing, and so, and that's what we're stressing, and that's what we want to be,

1:34:51and that's what we're trying to be, that, that, this year, we hear, and, and, it'll go on that day. Well, some of, some of them, these best teams, especially early on, nasty. Yeah. It's a line they got away from that, I don't know, maybe some of them, but how do they get back to, um, just being like that physical? Well, yeah, I think we got to, I mean, I, we got to be demanding on them, and we got to, we got to instill the toughness, and continue to, and still the toughness, continue to instill discipline, and, and, uh, and just not be satisfied, you know, and, and, and, and, and, and just be demanding on them. What does it mean for us to be talking? Well, I mean, I, I just, I just want us to get better every day, and I want us to, uh, my, my goal, again, is for us to, to, to, to be tougher, and to be more physical, and, and, and, and, and, and, to be, and to be, uh, and to be more disciplined, you know, and, and, and, and really focus on those, focus on those attributes, and, and I know if we do, that that will carry over to us, being successful

1:35:56in the field. Yeah. It's, meaning, being such a veteran, um, how do you see the social media and the media? Well, it's, it's impacted quite a bit. Yeah, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's very interesting, you know, and, it's, it's, it's taking me, you know, I got a, you know, wow, to get used to all of it. I'm not saying I'm great on it, but you're on the Twitter. Yeah, but I'm on Twitter and all that good stuff, and so, so, uh, you know, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's been, it's been fine. It's been, it's, but it is, it is, it is having an impact on, on, on, on, on recruiting, for sure. Well, that's a great question. I mean, that was probably the biggest transition. For me, was, was just, uh, and one of the most exciting things for me was being able to be a part of this office, because Coach Gundy's offices have been the best, some of the best in the country period.

1:36:56I mean, they've been awesome. So I wanted to be a part of it, but with that, it was, you know, it can't be stayed. We were, we were, you know, ground and pounded, and we were a lot of quarterback running games, something, you know, and, and, and, but also just taking as much time off the clock as we could, so we could keep the, keep the ball away from other defenses, you know, for other, other, other offices. And so just slowing down and that type of stuff. So here was playing fast and getting guys to just teaching my guys to, you know, to get up and make the calls and get the points, and that was different. And so, but, but that's kind of where I was, where I was going to, where, where I was, you know, where, hey, I just, being able to, to, to resource Johnny and Marcus, say, you know, how'd you guys do that? You know, what, what, what was some of the things, you know, and, and Jason Meckendood was really helpful with that as well, you know, so, but it's been a great transition, been a great transition. How does your job in a needle with Sean Wilson,

1:37:58and depending upon who wins the quarterback job, one of the even more logos than the other, what is that type of work you're going to like it? What's been great with Sean? Sean's awesome. I mean, I've said, Sean's got a, he's got a vision. He knows where he, what he wants, and he's very passionate. He's very intense, very detailed, and, and so, you know, he, he knows, he knows exactly where he wants this offense to go, and so I'm really excited. I'm really excited, he's got a chance to work with him, and the whole offensive staff has been awesome, you know, Waz and, uh, and Casey and, uh, and Matt had all been, been great. So it's really good. Touchkundy talking fast about trying to work, you can't escape before, obviously, at this time, but, or those pitches like in those conversations that I did with them at those times. Well, I mean, it was great. Coach Gundey's, uh, you know, he's, he was awesome, and, and so, it just circumstances just, for whatever reasons, just didn't allow me to, to be able to, to,

1:39:03to do it, but, but, but I'm just grateful now for this opportunity. I'm, I'm just grateful for what you gave me a call, and just that's one thing I am very grateful for. I'm very, very thankful for that he, you know, he gave me that call, so I'm very, really excited to be here. It's been a long time. It's about that. It's the last year that I'm like, when we think back to the overboard, it's the last year, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know. What has the last kind of here been like for you as you look back on from the player that was kind of brought us in. I was definitely chasing like, because I was always on, my sophomore year, I was hurt, and my junior year, I got hurt during track, so I was able to, like, I was a highly excluded athlete, and this time last year was like, when my recruitment really picked up, and it's just like, it's been crazy, like, must have another, like, he was just leaving me, in my corner, in my coach's empty, I just just give it the motivation to go.

1:40:12Oh yeah, that's a big good, before I even got a hosting offer, and before I even knew he was exactly actually through with them a couple of times in both. Bella Flatt, she's trotting, yeah, I was working with, I knew his head coach, and he invited me to come and run routes, and I actually ran routes for a table in the fight, if we was exactly headed like, uh, we first came to New Year, we had a lot more, we got got together, hustled freshman class, and he's working on everything, he's definitely got nice on. This cornerback in the years, I think it was pretty tough, how has that kind of helped you the first time? The cornerback? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, they're definitely challenging it, and say, as I always say, I just love it, and they make it hard for you, and just, when you play this high level competition practice, and you go on a game, like, twice as easy as the practice, and he's really built on stuff.

1:41:13Is there going to be a moment in question? I just kind of looked at it, oh wow, it is just, this is so different, this is so different, you know, I guess like a one more call. I guess there have been kind of like a moment first, I've realized, oh wow, these guys are, these guys are really good at this, like, they're really good. Uh, yeah, just like, I just first, like, on high school, I just take some like reps and I've seen with this guy, yeah, I just had past speed, and uh, we catch the abilities, like, face separation, and I come to college, and go, everybody's fast, everybody's big, so you have fun new ways to get open, just really good push yourself to, uh, higher high q. If you're a dancer or everything, because like, uh, coach Dayson, you guys are just first day you show up here in the room. Yeah, I think that leading, are you, are you doing the little things, and so, what's that like? I think that's, kind of with that report, when you're at a big time program, I'm like, how to stay, I think everyone's judged, you know, everything you do is important, how you, uh, how your locker looks, it's important, um, all the small details. How do you handle, oh, go ahead.

1:42:14I'm calling you face, you can be your parent. I mean, a lot of people think you're going to be the guy. What do you think you have to prove over the next several weeks, and then, appreciate it. Yeah, I don't, I always say, yeah, outside noise. I'm just focused on getting better every day, you know, getting ready for Friday's practice, uh, just, I'm thinking about practicing. I was going to kind of ask the same question, and then how do you handle that, like having not really people here to watch a practice, or, you know, being or walking around in Columbus, when you know that the quarterback's probably in most judge position, maybe in all of college football. You know, I think, how, like I said before, I'm, I'm really just focused on the fundamentals and improving every day, and just getting better, you know, taking what coach day, coach making, coach wrestler, bringing this, bringing it to us in the court. It's one thing you think you have to be careful with. Yeah, I think this winter, I've, uh, gained a little bit of weight, got stronger, so that was a big point. I was just in the winter, and I really just, you know, focusing on, uh,

1:43:16just getting, getting bigger and stronger. Uh, I've looked about, uh, gained about 10 pounds, so I'm just, I'm looking forward to having more, like, physical, brother, and how ready to do field fields for now. Uh, I feel, I feel good now, uh, just, you know, being a little bit heavier, it was good, it was big, big thanks to coach Macon, and the sole season. What do you think of being the starting quarterback at Ohio State? What does that look like to be? What does that? Yeah, it's definitely, uh, definitely the goal. Um, we're so long as life, just different. Yeah, 15 characters, just different. What should that person look like? Yeah, I think, um, you know, the type of sky, first guy in, last guy out, kind of like everyone says, and, uh, you know, being that leader of the offense. What are you able to do last year? What's not with you last year about, you know, Billy Fessler, what he was able to do with the quarterbacks and how much did you specifically get to work with them? Yeah, he had, uh, he had so much impact on our quarterback room last year. Um, him and coach Kelly both did a great job with us, and, uh, I was really appreciative of those guys. Uh, just, we're, uh, we work closely with the coach Fessler, and, uh,

1:44:17I was happy to see you in the end. How much different do you feel to talk about putting on the weight, but we talked to you in your yoga experience practice, you can just get in here, come from Alabama. How much different a year later do you feel in this program as a quarter of that, yeah, I think when you, when I first got here, I was still learning how everything works and learning what you're doing. And now I think I know what I would know what I'm doing, uh, within the plays or within, um, how the program works. So I think it's, uh, it's been good to just get adjusted, but, uh, still, still trying to improve. And when you talk about, talk to Sky, first one and last one or, there's two other guys that are trying to do that. How do you be that guy when two other guys know that that's what they're doing? So we're trying to be good at that job. Yeah, I think it's, um, our room is very competitive, but we're also very close. Uh, it's only three, it's only three guys in our room, so I think it's, um, it's important for us to just be close, but also better. I want you to be able to watch. Go ahead. Yeah. Uh, watching you throw one of the biggest things that stands out, I think it's our quick release is still how much, is it you can be on the course?

1:45:18How did you develop that quick approach? I think, um, I've naturally had a kind of a quick release, you know, kind of out of high school, I was always, I was just kind of had a quick release and I've been trying to get a clicker in it. You said the watch will and Devon to the battle last year. What did you learn from that? Well, maybe you and Luke can kind of take it and understand that it's competition, but also trying to get each other better for the team. Yeah, I think Will and Devon had a great friendship, but they were all very competitive. So I think it was, uh, it was definitely good to see and that's something that we had in our room this year. I just want to show you the toughest guy when nobody can touch your friends. I think there's a lot of ways to show toughest toughest supporters back. I think, you know, taking mental reps, um, you know, finishing out plays, bursting through the line, I think all those control toughies. Just like, I'm all on this. You know, we spent a lot of hours here, we're, you know, watching tape, um, giving our practice a lot of time. You have a couple of, I'm gonna get it, you know,

1:46:19and it's like, I'm gonna stay away from the point. I wouldn't say that. I think, um, I think we all, kind of, the whole choreographer is held to a standard and we all are, you know, together in this tournament, uh, beyond time and show up early. Just how it was a little bit easier for me. Like I've said, just a familiarity with the facility and the people and the coaches. So the rest of the society built and they, they kind of understand how I learned and how I operate in my mind. So they've been able to coach me and adapt to how I learned teaching for our things. You know, um, it's the biggest thing that I've tried to focus on is translating everything from those mediums to the field as quickly as I can. Just picking up on every, um, quick note that I can, any advantage I can get, um, you know, on the, on my opponent, I want, I want to have that advantage. And so I learned everything in the meeting and trying to listen to the field as quickly as possible. I'm trying to be like, okay, how do you do that?

1:47:21Like, what's different about that? Yeah, coach, coach wrestler and coach CK, um, our assistant quarterback's coach and the other quarterback's in tie-downs will get together like every time I walk the loose. Whether that's just me, Toman, and having a little meeting with Coach Fester, um, before workout or after workout. There's something going on every single day, um, just to build my development and really give me, like I said, an advantage. I'm just trying to learn everything I can and be, uh, the best possible player and person off of me. Coach, they said, we're back together. It's a lot of how, uh, where are you on that special medal? Yeah, really, like I said, just learning everything. I got to understand why we're doing things we are doing. And, you know, what we are trying to do with it and how we're going to do it and how we're going to accomplish it. Um, you know, that's still a learning thing for me. Just start second practice. I really just trying to get better and, you know, amplify it and make it better. Um, so that won't fry this practice on the day. I mean, it's like, it's taking a snap. So, uh, I opened this up to, I was five,

1:48:24five-star, um, one-footed in the country. You get here, there's just a few things like that. Is it, um, I opened, is it scary? Is that scary? Yeah, definitely very, uh, opening for me just because I didn't. I think coming from the place that I came from, um, like, like you said, not doing under-center things like that. Like, there's good intricate details even to just taking a snap under-center that I never knew were there because I never done it. So learning that stuff and, you know, fine-tuning everything that has to be, that has to go into being a great quarterback. And it was definitely very eye-opening. The first day I got here and I was so happy to get the first day of the rehearsal. So, if the session were to be, you know, you know, versus the second-second department. Yeah, really just, you know, I think, I think I'm getting better every day. That's the main focus. Just trying to develop everything with that. Get better at everything and our can. And be a better leader for the team. Be a better teammate. Be a better person outside of practice. That's really been the main development.

1:49:24We'll see where it takes me throughout the spring. But just trying to get better every single day. Developers in the day is only focused. The better leadership that you have for your team and the official relationships that you have, the longer it will take you. With him, I saw just, nobody hated, but nobody decided that everybody loved well. He was comfortable talking to anybody. And that's something I'm going to carry with me. Just trying to be familiar with everybody. Know everybody. Know everything about them. That's really been the main focus. She's been in relations with people that I don't really want to talk to. And really just trying to build that kind of cheer on and see it's been the main focus. You're the body I've been all the time trying to build. But there are no other body like you. I think the first time that I had taken a snap with my offense on the field, my group of offense on the field, it was like, this is actually happening now.

1:50:25And it's not just a dream that I'm trying to make happen. It was a dream that I'm living now. And so I just take every opportunity I can. Bless to be here. I live here. I'm a little chained for the world. So, for sure, it's like, you do some great things. Great. Really just like I said, you're better every single day. The guys in the room are really best in the country. So you just don't have to compete every day. I don't know how state that's what it leads to. So competitions will be talked and that's what we do. Really just get better every day. That's been all of our focuses. I'm going to try to work. I was curious how you assess Texas offense. And they've had their struggles in the running game. So they look like a team that's kind of pass heavy and leads into the past first. And how would you evaluate that part of their game? I mean, you say they struggle the past a few games in the running game. But I think they got a super explosive run game. If you watch the Clemson game, I think they put up almost 250 rush hours or something like that. I think their team that's capable of putting up around 50 points if you let them.

1:51:25Deep thing I showed right here play. It's in an extremely talented offense on all three levels. I think the quarterbacks great player. The running backs are very, very explosive. She was very explosive. They got great tie-down and great online. So they're a well-rounded offense. And you guys are big favorites in the game. Do you worry at all about, you know, overconfidence or complacency just because the way you have dominated the opposition so far? No, I don't think anything outside knows matters. I think there's things that you said about it before. We won those two games and now they're thinking set up about us after we won those two games. And they'll think we'll be different. And it really doesn't matter to us. We're just focused on the opinion inside the woody. And we know we got a bear in egg in every single week. I mean, it's a really good team. It doesn't matter how it beat the last two teams. This is a whole completely different team. Thank you. That's all our questions on Zoom. All right. We'll go back to the local level here. Phil Rebenoins, Columbus Dispatch. I mean, you guys travel. Your fans travel very well.

1:52:26But obviously this game is in Dallas. Do you guys kind of thrive and like the playing front of hostile crowds? I think guys kind of like going in an enemy territory sometimes. You know, it feels good being a little bit of the villain you could say. But yeah, I mean, obviously you got to take into fact that it isn't Texas. So it could be a lot of environment. It could be like an away environment. We obviously know that. But I mean, that's right. I'm aware you put the ball down. We're just going to come show up and play. And I think there's a staff that you guys, your opponents have not been called for a holding call since September or something like that. Is that something that you guys are aware of? And do you guys point out on the film? Anything called out? Or maybe call that one? Yeah, we're aware of this. That we don't pay attention to too much. So you guys just play. Now we've got too much to say about that. You got to just play through it and just let your talent take over. Don't let it come down to a ref decision. Over here to the right, Austin Ward, the podcast. Something that didn't feel like against Oregon that you guys had to blitz as much as you had doing.

1:53:30Maybe some other games in the second half of the season. Why is that? What does it allow the linebackers to do when you don't have that responsibility? What made that a successful approach on Wednesday? Yeah, I think when you got as talented as guys, we do the front with those four guys up front. I mean, a four-man pressure is feeling like a six-man pressure to the quarterback. So you're able to drop out and be able to drop everyone else in the cover. So it makes a lot easier on our defense when the defensive line is just taking over like that. I mean, it's tough for an offense to do anything. We got four-man rush. Feel like a zero coming at you. And then you got everyone dropping into the cover. It's kind of just shout over the field. So I mean, it definitely makes the defense a lot easier for everyone else when the defense line is playing like that. Jim Knowles has talked about this a little with having so many veteran players that you could make different game plans. You don't have to just be pigeon-hold into one thing. We kept it weak. Does it feel when you get in there and you guys start game planning? Like they are very different for every opponent for you guys at this point.

1:54:34I don't know if I would say that. I think they keep it simple enough where guys aren't like confused when we're doing. I mean, it might look like that for like the quarterback. It might be giving different looks and things like that. But I don't think it's over-complicated at all. But I mean, that might just be because we got a veteran defense as well. So it could be a little bit biased. But that's kind of the way it feels. It doesn't feel overly complicated when I got a win. We'll go to Joey Kauf and Columbus Dispen. So how do you think it's helped you guys to put Caleb Downs, Jack Dan Moore to the box? Later, late in the season, I've been doing that. It seems like more, how does it help you guys? Yeah, I mean, I think both of our safeties have done a really good job. You know, dropping down in the box again would come down fast and run support. I mean, I think when you see guys coming from 12 yards and they're making tackles for two yards games, it's all that's pretty impressive. I mean, you saw Nathan's last game come from the weak side boundary hash about 10, 12 yards. You come down and hit the dude at two yards and then Columbus knock him out. So I mean, both of our safeties are super impressive in the run game.

1:55:34So it definitely makes the health of the defense. You know, usually you're dropping the safety in. Usually those four yard runs, five yard runs, and where they're stopping for two yard runs, no yard runs. So it's super impressive and helps the defense out a lot. We'll go to Jeremy Birmingham, the podcast. So how much does the defense structure really changed since the organization and the game, or is more of an awesome time, like you guys just being more veteran and knowing the defense better, or has there been fundamental changes that have been made? Because it looks a lot different. Yeah, I mean, I think there's been some changes. But I think a lot of it's been a mentality of trying to be more aggressive than we're just trying to just have an aggressive mindset. I think you've seen that when it shows up on tape, with the pressures, the TFLs and things like that. And I think we've gotten a lot better since the beginning of the year. And we've kind of improved on the issues that have shown up each week because the issues are always there. And I think we've improved on those really well.

1:56:36And then obviously, look, I completely different now. You got a different aggressiveness from the coaching staffs and not just coach-n-olds, individual position coaches like coach Jordan. But even from my day, like, is he been a different type of leader? I think he's been a great leader the whole year. And I think after that team on Norfolk, we kind of hunkered down and say, hey, we're going to get up. We're going to start swinging. And we're going to keep swinging as hard as we can. And see what happens at the end of the game. And I think this will have been doing the past two games. And it's worked out pretty well. Next to Mick Walker, Letterman Row. Sonny, you mentioned a great kind of thing earlier. What stands out to you about Gunner Allen? And how do you kind of take out a guy that's such a focal point for all of us? I think he runs great routes. He has good hands. I think they set up some really nice plays for him. You see some of those plays where he kind of sneaks out of the protection and comes out wide open. I think the biggest thing that stands out is probably the routes in the hands. It's super impressive for a tight end.

1:57:38You know, obviously, you always be aware of where he's out on the field. And there's going to be some explosive play set up for him. Any other questions here? Can you tell me? Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, Letterman Row. I'm sorry. Good minute eruption. Jerry, when you were in a nutshell, how would you describe him to someone? Because he seems even more effective when he kind of gets out of the pocket or moves around and stuff. Sonny, what do you see when you think of him? I would say the capability of like early on the game, no him getting his routine, like some of those routine throws, routine throws. They run the ball, that's plaques and shot. 50 yards now, feels like that. I think he did a super good job with that. Being able to sell the play action, pull the safeties up, and then hit you down, feel with the 60 yard bombs and like that. So I think that's the biggest thing that stands out to me on film. He's a super talented quarterback, super talented arm talent. He can get the ball out in many different ways. But yeah, that's probably how I put it in the nutshell. He's just super talented player.

1:58:40He can make any throw on the field. Like he said, he can move around a little bit. I don't think people respect that enough for his legs. He can move around and extend the plays and hurt you down. Bill. Is there really a guy who used to be in this building, at least for four or five months? I wasn't really here with him, but I don't think it's really odd. You played some former players before, but obviously he's a talented player. I think a lot of guys have a lot of respect for him. So it's just going to be a good match. I'm excited for it. I'm going to Bill Rebellion. Columbus, this back. Adam, the wing will talk to you next. I'll ask you now. I'm sure it's the last thing you're going to mind when we talk about. Do you have any idea what you're going to do about next year? I mean, you obviously can go to the NFL. Do you have any thoughts on that right now? No, I haven't thought about it at all. Just worry about winning. Scotty, that's in from Columbus for sunny styles. Any more on your end? No more on our end. Thank you, sunny. Amazing. End of this game. We knew we needed to be physical, play downhill football, and go out of them.

1:59:40And I think our O-line took that challenge and ran with it, man. Those dudes are bad SOBs, man. And they're coming downhill and just rocking people off the ball. And I think they're playing really, really good football right now. They're just continuing to get better every single week. I think they played really well last week. I think they played really, I haven't watched the film yet, but I think they played really, really well this week. Love you. Who is that? Nick. Love you, Nick. But the overall, man, those guys are playing their butts off. And then, you know, I mean, you let Q and Trey do the rest. And we say we want to have our O-line get to, and our backs get to every single play. And I think our O-lines get in us for, and our backs can get us 60 plus. So I mean, it's good. And our O-lines playing at a really, really high level right now. Across the board, I'm really proud of those guys. Noah Weiskov, the Lantwer. After that first half, what was the message to the team in the locker room? I mean, I wouldn't say anything was really different, man.

2:00:42We just came out and we said, you know, it's a new half. And, you know, every, we always put the emphasis on that middle eight, you know, and ending the first half the right way, and starting the second half the right way. And we didn't, we did not execute the middle half in the first half, but coming out of the half time, going down, getting the score, you know, getting a couple turnovers, like that was huge. And that was, you know, our emphasis was like, we have to come out and start fast. We've got to go down, get a score. You know, we deferred, so we get the ball first. And then we got to come out and get some stops. And, I mean, the defense played an unbelievable game today. And when you got defense, it's going to shut them down like they did. I mean, it's hard, hard not to win a lot of games. Andy Backstrom, Letterman Rowe. Talked about earlier this year. There's Open, and then there's Ohio State Open. How much of that factor in the red zone with a Mecca? And just where you at, with kind of adopting that? Yeah, absolutely, man. It's, it 101, you know, is, they're open. And I've said that. And, you know, I have all the trust in the world and those guys. And I've seen them do it and practice.

2:01:44You know, it makes my job easy when I can, when I can throw a ball that, a Mecca on that corner route, that last touch on that, that we had. Wasn't a great throw, honestly. You know, we, we, we practiced that play on the hash mark. You know, where I had a little more time to throw that. And, you know, we have it in the right middle. So it's a little more off the hash. We got to be a little quicker with it. And I left it a little inside. And Mecca made a great play. And, you know, it's just like things like that, just giving guys chances. And I mean, in JJ, like that one hand to catch is, I mean, it's stupid. Like it's, it's, you know, you just let them, let them go make plays, man. And, and it's, and it's fun to watch. It's, it's easy. And, you know, it makes, makes my job, makes my job pretty nice. Over to the right. James Watkins, Cleveland.com. What are you playing, big games before? Which means you played in games before, big games before, trapped games, something to say. What do you think you learn about a team in these kind of moments? And what did you learn today? Yeah, we, we said this coming into this game, you know, we were going to learn about this, we were going to learn a lot about this team and our toughness and our, you know, our ability to, you know, block out the noise and go down and get to work.

2:02:44And, you know, we knew we had a big one coming up this week. But we knew that this was a big one too. And I think our ability to just come out there and play some smash-mouthing football a little bit, you know, I think we started well. You know, the first quarter, we only had one drive. It was 14 plays and we went down and scored. And, you know, the second quarter, you know, just, you know, two turnovers, the turnover on downs, you know, we beat ourselves, you know, it's, it's never, you know, the other team beating us is us beating ourselves. But, you know, it's all about how you respond and we came back and we did a great job. So, you know, I'm proud of the way that we played, but, you know, we got to be going coming up next week. So, I'm excited. If we can start to wrap up with Donovan Jackson in the back, please, and we've got two more questions for Will Howard up front. Bill Rabinovitz, Columbus Dispatch. Everyone is pointing to this orange game. All season, I was out of his test. How well prepared are you guys? How do you feel going into that game with all the states? I think confidence wise, we feel great. You know, we've continued to iron things out and get better every single week. And I think that's true. I think we've learned a lot about ourselves and about this team.

2:03:46You know, I think going into this game, you know, we know that it's a big one. And, you know, I haven't really looked at it yet. We knew that this Iowa team was going to be a good team. So, I mean, you know, I looked at it a little bit, and you know, on the by-week, and I started checking them out and seeing, you know, what they're about. And, you know, I'm excited, man. It's going to be a good challenge, you know. Played against Dylan a couple times. He's a great player. You know, their defense is good. You know, I know Dan Coach landing is a good coach, and he's going to have them ready. So, I'm excited to get home now and start watching some film and get ready for these guys. And final questions for Will, Tim May, Letterman, or all? Yeah, just real quick. Well, the way the first half ended for you is, you know, in a monologue going, hey, I'm better than him. You know what I mean? Absolutely. Just get straightened out, I guess, at halftime. And then, in number two, because I won't get another question, you and Dylan gave it. You know, two guys from a big club not going against each other, and a big pinch show, yeah. Just, what does that mean to you? Yeah, man, it'll be fun. You know, going into halftime, yeah, I was,

2:04:46I was, yeah, I was, I was pissed at myself, you know, because I feel like it's uncharacteristic, you know, putting the ball in harm's way like that. You know, I want to be safe at the ball in my decision making. I'd like to hang my hat on that. And, you know, it's just like, but at the end of the day, man, like, you just got to flush it and move on. You can't dwell on it too long in the moment. You know, we'll go back right now, and I'll go watch the film and, you know, be critical as critical as possible and say, you know, can't do this. You know, it got to be better. But in the moment, like, it's very, very, very important to just move on and brush it off. And then, yeah, going in and next week, you know, with Dylan, man, I actually, in 2022, we played at Oklahoma, and I was ageing with still playing. So I never actually have got to play against Dylan. But I know him. He's a good dude, man. And, you know, I got one of my, one of my boys from, from K-States, one of their safes. So excited to go out there. It's going to be, it's going to be a fun game, man. Well, thank you very much. Thank you. I'll go books. You know, go up in the ball. It's fun to play with guys like that. And, you know, just up and up the offense as a handshake. So it's a lot fun.

2:05:47What's the, what's the answer to the struggles in the rhythm of your stuff? Yeah, I think we just need to connect some little things. I mean, it's one of two things every time. So, we definitely got to figure that out and clean it up as we go. Back to you, we talked about the talent. But you guys had an on that. And then when you have those vets on the struggles, how do you get in the game? You got to stay there, don't let your talent talent go. Yeah, I mean, he's got to stay steady. I mean, we know what we're capable of, and we're the guys. So, you know, we're still confident on what we can do and we stay confident. So, First day is, Coach Day's talk about, the versatility he wants to see all over the field, but especially with the tight ends. Sound fun as it being, what's the like being part of an offence that you don't ask you to do, so many different things. How's so many different formations and things like that? Yeah, no, it's fun. I mean, rolling it out with those guys, a lot of fun, cats, cats, and so on. So, it's been fun to do a lot of different things and it's a lot of new things that, you know, adjust and do a lot better. So, we decided about that. When you're sitting,

2:06:49yeah, I think I've become a lot better. I mean, the goingness is perhaps three day. RV fans and some real decent stuff. You have no option but to let them set up this in love. When you're out there, Oh, yeah, I mean, we have these four games, stretch kind of stuff. We have a lot of equipment to make and I think we're excited about that. See what we can do. After this five weeks. Well, for you, what's the biggest lesson? Biggest lesson, or stay in the stadium and queue. Don't get tired. Don't get too low. I mean, there's going to be up some bounds, but you've got to stay. You've got to stay in the same time. When you're out there with JJ, does it amazing you some of the things that he does? Yeah, I mean, you see that every day, the fact is certain. So, honestly, now I see it. Like, he doesn't really amazing as much, but you just see it every day. So, it's a special talent. You have a chance to certain plays. We get to do that and then allowing certain guys and certain blitzes to really mess up the, what the quarterback is thinking. So, it allows us to have more pressure and be able to allow us to do more moves at the time because it makes it all so confused that what we're doing is about

2:07:50allowing putting blitzes in there really mixes up the past first force. And I was just going to get sad. Tim May, let him enroll. Yeah, with that said, like, for example, S-E-R-D-N-I against E-M-A-L-E-A-V. I said it right. I think. But he was quite elusive in stuff. Was that a good, I don't know, prep for this week? I mean, because Dylan gave us a little bit different scramble, but he still gets the job done. Oh, yeah, that was definitely good to have because, like I said, I mean, all the quarterbacks are very mobile and being people that have more experience versus mobile quarterbacks, helps us obviously, you know, just help us home and learn from our, where we have, how to go through the hole and how to make scramble is where we can learn from those crampals. And we go from that game and the past game we played against Oregon just learning learning the quarterbacks tendencies and when they like to run, where they like to run, everybody helps us out really closing the cage and cage and pocket ball. Is there a fine line between being aggressive but also being wary? This guy can slip away. You're saying what I'm saying, timing? Yeah. You can't just go right at him and go ahead, I'm sorry. Yeah, he's definitely a quarterback and then gets out of the pocket.

2:08:51So I mean, being, he's definitely a threat. He's a main guy in offense. He runs the show. So I mean, being able to stop him and contain him really slows the offense down so being able to cage the pocket and be able to slow him down and make him make more decisions on the run and moving around that really helps us. Go ahead, just have one more. Him, I'm sorry. Well, no, I didn't want to ask about their center. Their center, I impressed with you with him the last time you guys played. He seemed to have a pretty good game, you know, and he's kind of a, kind of a, you know, actually, kind of a tough guy to move out of there and stuff that he looks like. I mean, what's your impression of him? He's definitely one of the better centers in the conference, I mean, he's a really good guy. I mean, being able to be in there and be able to be in the size and be able to move the way he can is really hard to get around him at times. But he's definitely having the game plan and working against and working to tend to see that he has and be able to work against that really helps us, helps me. Wow, dude. Yeah. He's fifth or old, middle, Steven Leonard, college football, college. Yeah, kind of piggybacking on that. How much of it was the offensive line being a strength that are team versus Dylan Gabriel being able to escape and the lack of pressures

2:09:53that we had on our defense? Oh, yeah. I mean, when you got a good offensive line, I mean, it makes it even better for a quarterback, you know, being in the rollout to know that your line was going to help you protect you when you're in the pocket. So, I mean, it makes it easier for throws and it makes it harder for us, honestly, for having a good offensive line. So, I mean, like I said before, just being able to attack that offensive line, attack that weaknesses and be able to go after and make it harder for the quarterback when he's harder for them or world. For throw right, Andrew Gillis, Cleveland.com. What's the challenge similar to Tim's question? And, you know, when you play a team like this that runs the level of RPOs that they do that was in the playoffs and how do you stay true and be aggressive and force the issue where, you know, Dylan Gabriel is really good at making the grades. Oh, yeah. Like I said, just putting pressure on them. I mean, do you see how they get it back there? I mean, we got a lot of different plays that can help us get back their passer in playing and playing to their tendencies, you know. A lot of times they have the RPO, the RPO helps them out. It means you get the ball out fast. I mean, things like Jackson and JTB and get their hands up. Knock the ball down. Crazy string. I'm out of pressure for the quarterback when you got hands in your face all times.

2:10:53And final questions. Bill Rubino, it's Columbus Dispatch. We've asked about Dylan Gabriel and the receivers. They're not one dimensional. They have a good running back in Jordan James. What makes him special and what's the challenge for you guys? I think he's definitely one of the better running backs in the conference of well. I mean, just how hard he runs is it's hard to bring him down at times. So I mean, as a front four, we probably stopping the run. That's the first thing we're going to do is we go on the game. I mean, the past rushing is good and all, but we can't stop the run. I mean, we're going to run the ball there and throw all the time. So all the time we have to figure out how we're going to stop him. How we're going to run the ball and then we're going to take him down. So, I mean, it's our job as a front four to go on there and stop the run. We're going to make him one-dimensional as we go out there. So I mean, if we get out there every time I have a mindset, we go out there and we're going to get him. We're not going to allow him to get in the yards, allowing him to get going. We're going to stop him. We're going to make him throw the ball. When I, JT was up here asked him about how to compare to trust him and Jack is personalized. What's your take on that? How different are they? Is just personalized. I definitely think Jack is more outgoing.

2:11:54I mean, the guy he's like the light that shines around me and everybody goes around him and everybody loves him. He's outgoing guy. They're going to come to you shake your hand any time of day and then JT is more of the glue guy. I mean, a lot of guys gravitate to him. I mean, he just has a brice mile on him all the time. He's just a great guy that people like to be around. And there are two good people. So it's hard to tell. And Ty, I do that one more question for you. Tony Irvin, Bucket Hut. You guys obviously have faced Tepo. You did it last week. What's the key for you as a defensive one facing Tepo? Oh, yeah. I mean, we've been going through all week in the past two weeks. It's just getting set. I mean, that's the first thing you do. If you're not set, I mean, it makes it harder to do your job. So let's be honest, be honest, a game on the ball, get set before they're lined up and set the ball is one and more important thing. So when we're set, we're able to do our jobs at the efficiency they can before they can do theirs. How does it belong to him? It could be difficult at times. You know, you got to look to the signline first. You got to get the call. I mean, the call has to be set down first. So it can't be difficult at times, but that's definitely what we've been working on the past a few weeks to just get the call and get the call early. Get set. So we can go and be

2:12:55play faster. You've chased the play into one side of the field. And now it's lined up, they're going to be heading to the other side. So like, you've got to just run the same line side, like just to get to the right side. Yeah, I mean, I have been a lot of last game, you know. It's hard. It's definitely tough. I mean, that's what we work on to practice. Just moving fast that we can, we simulate in these things. So we can get into the game. It's a lot easier. So we moving around side to side, running around, doing extra conditioning just for moments like this. Hi. Thank you very much. All right. Thank you. Thanks, Tom. Want to try to get better every day? Yeah. And never be satisfied. And, you know, he was very demanding. Very demanding on his players, he's a man on his coaches. You know, he just very competitive. You know, and I've said this before, there's just,

2:13:55there's a lot of similarities between these two programs. And maybe the personalities are different, but, you know, but, but, but, but, you know, when I first, first day, I got here, first day, our first statinist coach, kind of talked about, about us being a more tougher, more physical, more disciplined football team. And that's all coach's now talking, you know, those are the things he would talk about, you know, and just having us being, being, being, the toughest, most disciplined team out there. And, and, and, and that's, you know, so it's like, it was left here in the same thing. And so, and that's what we're stressing, and that's what we want to be. And that's what we're trying to be, that this year, we hear, and, and, and, and, well, some of, some of them, these best teams, especially early on, are just nasty. Yeah. It's a line, and it got away from that, I don't know if that maybe some of them, but how do they get back to just being like that physical? Well, yeah, I think we got it. I mean, I, we got to be demanding on them,

2:14:55and we got it, we got to instill the toughness, and continue to instill the toughness, continue to instill discipline, and, and, and just not be satisfied, you know, and, and, and, and, and just be demanding on them. What is it being, what is it going to be talking about? Well, I mean, I, I just, I just want us to get better every day, and I want us to, my, my goal, again, is for us to, to, to, to be tougher, and to be more physical, and, and, and, and, and, and to be, and to be, and to be more disciplined, you know, and, and, and, and, and really focus on those, focus on those attributes. And, and I know if we do, that that will carry over to us being successful in the field. Yeah. It's being, being such a veteran. How have you seen social media impact? Correct. Well, it's impacted quite a bit. Yeah, it's, it's, it's, it's very interesting, you know, and, it's, it's taking me, you know, I got a, you know,

2:15:56while to get used to all of it. I'm not saying I'm great on it, but you're on the Twitter. Yeah, but I'm on Twitter and all that good stuff. And so, so, you know, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's been, it's been fine. It's been, it's been, it's been, but it is, it is, it is having an impact on, on, on, on, on, on, on recruiting. That's for sure. Yeah. The differences between these types of style of offense and the state's, the most spread out. How does that affect the area of the jail? Well, that's a great question. I mean, that was probably the biggest transition. For me was, was just, and one of the most exciting things for me was being able to be a part of this offense because Coach Gundy's offenses have been the best, some of the best in the country, period. I mean, they've been awesome. So, I wanted to be a part of it. But with that, it was, you know, it can't just stay, we were, we were, you know, ground and pound and we were a lot of quarterback running the game somewhere. And, and, and but also just taking as much time off the clock as

2:16:57we could so we could keep the, keep the ball away from other defenses, you know, or for other, other, other, other offenses. And so just slowing down and that type of stuff. So here was playing fast and getting guys to just teach my guys to, you know, to get up and make the calls and get the points and that was different. And so, but that's kind of where I was, where I was going to what, where I was, you know, where I had just being able to to resource Johnny and Marcus. Hey, you know, how'd you guys do that? You know, what, what, what were some of the things, you know, and Jason Meckendood was really helpful with that as well. You know, so, but it's been a great transition. It's been a great transition. How does your job in Amigo with Sean Joyce? And depending upon who wins the quarterback job, one may even work over with another. What is that? What is the relationship like? What's been great with Sean? Sean's awesome. I mean, I've said that Sean's got a great, he's got a vision. He knows where he, what he wants and he's very passionate.

2:17:57He's a very intense, very detailed and, and so, you know, he, he knows, he knows exactly what where he wants this offense to go. And so I'm really excited. I'm really excited. You get a chance to work with him and the whole offensive staff is going to awesome. You know, Waz and Casey and Matt have all been great. So it's really good. Touch Gundy talked to him fast about trying to recruit you from Kansas State before and obviously this time. But, yeah, those pitches like in those conversations that I did with them at those times. Well, I mean, it was great. Coach Gundy's, you know, he's, he was awesome. And so it just circumstances just, for whatever reasons, just didn't know I'd be able to, to do it. But, but, but I'm just grateful now for this opportunity. I'm, I'm just grateful. He gave me a call. I'm just that's one thing I am very grateful for. I'm very, very thankful for that he, you know, he gave me that call.

2:18:59So I'm very, really excited to be here. I was, we all have work to do. So we're going to keep doing that. But he's a, he's a great guy. Yeah, you know, just to try my hardest in spring, obviously, move in the fall can't be no do my job. And wherever, you know, they're going to put the best five on the field at the end of the day. So whatever Coach Boen thinks that's going to be his decision. You mentioned having four offensive line coaches. How much does that help to have, you know, so many different range? You can pick problems. It definitely helps a lot, you know, whenever you have a question and so easy to get feedback. You don't have to ask his coach Boen. You guys dig you if you want to whoever you want to ask is just so many resources. So, compared to, you know, last year we just had, we had a three, three guys. It was just in Friday and coach lean and I won over God, but it's been a lot different. And I've been lacking a lot more. Do you feel like you're able to get more, you know, individual instruction of having something like coaches like that? I definitely said that. We know we hold a lot of meetings. So, you know, talking to specific coaches about different things, you know, all them explains have a little different just to be able to find one that is, you know, it speaks to you in the way you like it to.

2:20:00So you're not helpful. Are you said that you changed your body a little bit? Did you got here? Have you felt the difference already in spring? I definitely have, you know, I would say I was a physical in high school, but I've been a lot more physical I can tell just, you know, coach making the strength staff, you know, they help you a lot, just exposing all of that. So I appreciate the strength staff a lot. What's the January year with the team? How much has that helped you in the other early enrollments? Not just getting the pair of businesses, but learning the culture of high school? So, Coach, they asked all the seniors before we came in. They asked us if they were okay for us to come with the playoffs with them and they all just give it a green light. They wanted us to experience that for the next time we're in the playoffs. So we could see that I think that's helped tremendously. I think I made us mature just being around those guys and knowing what to do when we do get to that place. Are there ways that you've heard you see that fit off? I definitely can say, you know, just maturity wise, especially from this class. I think we all just came in a little bit maybe immature, but we've definitely grown throughout that process. Just see the way a guy like Donovan Jackson stepped up for high school. So you're how inspiring is that for you? It's very inspiring, you know, me and Donnie were pretty close like they talked to him a lot.

2:21:01So, you know, just seeing him move from guard to tackle and just make such as he was jumping that little time was just really cool to watch. Carter, the especially the three primary coaches you're working on, do they all speak the same language if you follow my draft? I mean, who do you listen to most, I guess, in those kind of situations? You know, they're all from different places. So at first, I think it was a little hard for them to mention the one that would linger open. Now they've got it down packed. They're all at the same exact thing. So that's been helping a lot. I mean, obviously they can explain stuff a little different if you like them too. But they've been doing a good job of keeping everything together. And Coach Dickin in particular, what's he brought? What's he brought to you? What were his tidbits or things he's brought to open your eyes a little bit? Just let the little older playstyle, I could say. He's not like too fancy on all the technique stuff. So I like just how straightforward he is with all the technique stuff for sure. Just very straightforward. I know you know Luke pretty well both being from Toledo. How have you just seen Luke Brogher and so far going into this year? I think I've been watching him for a while. You know, I've known him like you said. But I've just seen him grow as a leader. It's been really cool to see him a while back.

2:22:02I think I was a software he was a senior. We always played in each other. But seeing him move into that leader role has been really cool to see. What kind of leadership does he bring into that leader right now? Just always talking to the younger guys. Then encouraging us, you know, tell us what we need to do. And not only the younger guys, but the other guys just encourage us as a whole. And what does his story mean to you? I mean, obviously this time of year ago he wasn't even sure where he was going to fit in or whatever. Now, especially through the playoffs, he was a force. I mean, what does it just tell you about perseverance but also a season? I think it really is just never give up. I mean, obviously you might not start the first game. Maybe not even the second game. But you can always make an impact if you really, if that's your desire. We've been meeting on the team. That's kind of the way he's played on the team. Nice car. Kind of teach you the ropes. Kind of teach you the ropes. Here's some training to move all the offensive lines out of the team. I would say Austin and Luke a lot. You know, I talked to them for your office. Especially about technique stuff. Austin's been playing a little different places. So he's been helping me a lot of my small technique things. Just what to do for sure. Is it the small stuff that is a big adjust from playing top?

2:23:04Is that really what kind of means? Yeah, it's definitely the smaller stuff. Just like, you know, hand protection stuff like that. Nothing to address it. So it's been good. The treasure has been too crazy. Exactly what positions in the rep. Only a left tackle. Yeah, so far. You feel pretty comfortable there. I feel very comfortable. Yes. These are grown men you're going against. Kinyada and Kaden are like 22, 23 years old. I think they're going to be a little bit more comfortable. I think they're going to be a little bit more comfortable. Yeah, Kinyada and Kaden are like 22, 23 years old. Yeah, yeah. Obviously that's a lot different than the high school you're playing. What? 16, 17, most 18. So it hasn't been a lot different. I first co-practors were my best. I've definitely adjusted a pretty well this spring. Part of it. Part of it. I asked Jay about some kind of sampling. You guys obviously switched my list very closely. Came with Toledo, Hamptoy and all of a sudden. But the time you get up here, he's gone. How's it been getting in there? The new offensive line. It's been really good. Obviously, we had all the fresh matter. We had a really good relationship. We coached Fry. I've been seeing him leave. It was actually a little hard. But we all kept our minds open with Coach Bowen. And we're liking him a lot. We've been developing relationships with him.

2:24:04And he's been really good to us so far. Good. All right, Carter. Thank you. Thank you. Guys, in the room. I mean, I'm not sure it's probably something you got to ask him. But you know, Jeremiah has played with a lot of great guys throughout his career. He's seen all the talent you can see in the world. But I don't know if he's ever in all. Oh, and I, oh, yeah. I mean, I'm not surprised at anything he does now. Like, I've seen him just out. We were nine years old. So anything he does, any one hand catch, I've seen, I'm not surprised at anything he does. When he was nine, do you know this is not a, this is something special we've been met. Maybe the nine? Oh, yeah. I mean, coaches were coming up to us complaining that we were nine years old. Like, can we get their IDs and stuff like that? So, I mean, I mean, there's definitely some footage. I, we got to go find, but the place we used to make when we were younger and just to see where he is now is amazing. It seems very unaffected by all of the starter.

2:25:05Yeah. How does, how does that happen? I think how he was raised. He's just, he's very level-headed. He knows his goals and what he wants to get done in life. And this is just one step of the way for him. Can I throw a back to Texas for a couple of questions on Zoom, Scotty? Yes, sir. We're going to start with Defond from Cleveland.com. Go ahead. Brandon, I want to go back to what you were talking about with Coach Day earlier. You know, whenever he talks about this team's success, he says, all the credit goes through players. It seems like the players think that he deserves some of the credit. How, how big, how influential I see been, you know, in the turnaround you guys have had these last few weeks. He's been huge, man. Coming here after that team of North Wallace, you know, it was heartbreaking, of course. But we came in here. We had a leadership meeting and he was in here. I mean, and then we had a team meeting after that. Hearing the stuff he had to say and we had to say, going back and forth, we just, we knew, we would have his back no matter what.

2:26:07I mean, there's a lot of stuff set about him and his family and stuff like that. But hey, here we're brotherhood and we're family. And we just, we go stand by him no matter what. Our next question is going to come from Dan. Hope Dan go ahead. Brandon, I mean, I'm sure you came in here to Ohio State thinking you'd probably be starting here in your second year. But it seems like you really embraced the growth process. Just what's kind of that process that like for you, of kind of embracing your role this season and continuing to develop? Yeah. In life, things doesn't go the way you exactly planted, too. And that just happened, you know, things happened to Mecca last year that allowed him to come back. And that allowed me to learn more. And that's just how I see it. It makes me a better football player for the future. So yeah, I mean, yeah, let's see that. Three more on Zoom. Next one is going to come from Stefan Means.

2:27:07Go ahead. I'm Steven, but I'm sorry. Yeah, you're good. Brandon, there are a lot of clips of you this year where you're super, super excited after a block. And kind of showing your emotion there. What about blocking do you love so much as a receiver? Just being able to hit another guy with all my power, the hardest I can without any, get any consequences. Except if you accept a few hold, of course, but yeah, just bringing that power. I mean, I heard some of the defensive guys telling me yesterday they were like, I hate to go against you. So knowing that from the defensive guys. So I know what the other defensive guys are thinking like, just keep bringing it to them. They're not going to like it for four quarters. That's my mindset. Next question is going to come from Danny Davis. Danny, go ahead. Brandon, what are your impressions of these Texas defensive backs and this kind of we've seen from them on, on, on, on, film so far?

2:28:10Yeah, the last couple of days we watched them, they're fast team. They don't give up many big plays down field. They're aggressive, but I actually know some of the, the DBs they have at corner there. I play with them. Well, I played with Malik Muhammad at SFE, so I might know him a little bit. Yeah, but watching them, they're fast team, they're physical, they're disciplined, but we just got to get the job. Give any Malik stories or any, any, what do you say? Give any Malik stories or anything you remember about playing with them? Yeah, but I'm not going to say them here. Yeah, we'll just keep that. So, a lot of questions going to come from Kurt Bowles, Kurt, go ahead. Hey, Brandon, one of the issues Texas has had the second half of the year is finishing. And what if you can speak to, and they had a trouble obviously in the Peach Bowl, you know, blew a 16-point leak?

2:29:13And you talk about finishing and having a killer instinct, and you guys obviously seem to have that now. Yeah, I think that started in off-season training at Fall Camp. We always say, go plus two. If you're doing a 10-yard pro-shut, you have to go plus two throughout the line, and that's just finishing as well. And then, Fall Camp, we had these long two-and-a-half hour practices or whatnot, and then we came out, and we had to do these finishers. We called them, ask for games, late in the year like this. I think Coach Day has a great job preparing all of us for these moments, and we're ready to go. We have time for just a couple more questions and clumpets so we can wrap up with our other two guys. Bill Landis, Kingston the North. Brandon, what's your opinion on the second touchdown run? It seemed like you took two players out of the play, first with your release, and then with the guy you actually walked. Is that how it's designed, or was it just lucky that the guy decided to take off his title for the release?

2:30:15It's actually designed for me to block the safety and lead the corner 101 with the running back. But I was surprised that the corner actually came in so far in my release. I think he thought it was a pass. But I think he was the edge of the defense if you go watch that play, but I don't know why he came in so far, but it helped out for us. I made my block interior score. Is there any lesson there for even a young receiver watching that, that even if you know him a play, you're not getting the ball, you're intended to block. But your release has to be at all point as if you're going to go catch a pass. Yeah, definitely. Every little detail matters, and then type of plays. We were in a red zone there, so we say every yard matters as two yards. So the block I made is just a testament to Kyle. Coach Hardline's print me throughout the week to make that block. And final question. Joy Conference, Columbus Dispatch. And it will, and there's been some of the ball to eat well lately, and some of the special things you guys have opened games.

2:31:15What do you think is his cook for you guys and for him in watching those plays? I think a lot more confidence. I say throughout the year, we were always there as offense. We didn't quite know our identity, and now slowly but surely I think we found that, and we're going to keep on rolling. And he's made some great throws. I'm sorry, Brandon, I do have one more steep. That one, you do the 24-7 score. And there have been opportunities for you to play a huge role on offense, and the number of plays you play in game can differ from one week to the next. But the opportunity is coming sooner rather than later for you to be in every down player. Just what are the things you need to do in your game to take it from where it is now to be in every down guy? I think there's a lot of things I could recall in my game. I would say continuing to be football smart by IQ, just knowing what the defense is going to do before they do it. My routes always can get better. My hands always can get better staying on the jugging machine.

2:32:21Work ethic, keep on top of it. Don't get satisfied with anything I do. And don't get too big, don't get too low, don't get too high, don't get too low, that's what they say. You feel like a guy that the people follow, it seems like, in your mind, even the second-year guy that you're working toward being a leadership type guy. I got to have guys that will take that role. It's a great feeling, of course. No guys are watching what you do and listening to what you do. But we do that with a lot of players here, not just myself, but the leadership we have on those teams is like no other. That's what I've got so far. Brandon, thank you very much for being in meetings last year and being around the program. Does that show up more on the field during the call? If there is any advantage for him? Yeah, I mean, he wasn't out here practicing last year. So the first time that he was out here running around on the field was in December when he came up for practice as an early and early January or whatever that was.

2:33:25So I think there's a little bit of advantage there just because he did get to see practice before. But again, I think that you do have some understanding and awareness of the offense and maybe it's not the first time you hear about the formations, but to be able to go and apply that to the field. I mean, that takes a lot of work. So there is a slight advantage there just from how much you are around the program. But I'm not sure if in the meeting room or on the field, which one affects more ultimate, we're judged based on what we do on the field and our goal is to go out there and execute it. How do you guys show that they are the toughest guys on the team when they get your touch? Yeah, we talk about it all the time. So if we want to show where the toughest guys on the team, we can do that by showing where the hardest working guys on the team. We can show that we are the mentally toughest guys on the team. We can make sure that we don't ever get too high or too low and we play with passion and emotion without letting that emotion and passion play with us and affect us. And we talk a lot in the quarterback room about moving on to the next most important thing.

2:34:26So if I have a play where maybe I made the wrong read or screwed something up, I've got about half a second to kind of be bummed out about it. But I've got to learn from it and I've got to move on to the next most important thing because so many guys let that first play affect the next play. So we're really working to continue to grow from that. But as far as showing that we're tough, I even sell our guys that, hey, if I'm, I don't know, lost in cerebell and I'm watching film and I see in the back of that film that Julian is up or Tavian is up, but Lincoln and the opposite of Julian and Tavian are standing in the back doing a mental rep. And I'm like, that gives me confidence if I'm Austin that those guys, one understand what they're doing and two are committed to get better, right? And are going to be in position to be tough and we need to be tough. So like little things like that are something that we're constantly working on to show that we're being in that position. What have you seen from Lincoln in your first year working with him to help? What he's been doing with him? I've definitely seen a lot of growth from getting in here in June last year.

2:35:30And to what we're seeing about now, you know, it's just a full year of understanding the offense, a full year of getting a feel for what we're trying to do and what we're trying to accomplish. And you know, just the, this whole new details about where my eyes need to be, how I can tie my feet in with my eyes, how I can make sure that, you know, I'm not just throwing the ball to the right receiver because that's what my red dictated. But I'm also throwing it at the right time. And I'm, you know, I have accuracy within that accuracy that I just displayed by putting it on the right shoulder, right? Or the right, you know, to offset our receiver and throw them away from a defender or whatever that may look like. So that's what I'm excited because you're starting to see more and more of that from Lincoln as we've getting into the two practices. We've only had two practices, but, you know, just that growth that I don't think is a growth that happened over two practices growth that happened from the time we got here and I got here in June through right now. And that's a success. He said now, three quarterback coaches in three years, three, like all there's in three years, can that be like an advantage for him, like understanding different concepts, different reads, having to see things through different languages because he's had so many different voices inside.

2:36:38And how do you kind of give that? Yeah, I mean, he's had, he's had different quarterback coaches, but the reality is it's been the same tasking. It's been the same system. So it's not like we changed the way we read a play based on who the quarterback coach was before. We may miss like tweaks, right, or adjustments or, you know, I had a new concept in her to, but I think what Lincoln can get from having those three different quarterback coaches is maybe just three different slightly different perspectives where the message is still the same. So maybe it's just a slightly different delivery of the same message. And I think that can definitely be a advantage because he still knows, you know, on this concept, this is where my read is, but maybe he heard it a different way over the last three years. And I guess could be an advantage. If you are he's quarterbacks and they're supposed to be the toughest guy, first guy in the early last guy to leave, but they're all trying to do that. How do you then separate yourself as one of those guys given they're all trying to strive to do the same things because they're a different.

2:37:43Yeah, you know, I think the ultimately right is can I sustain it? Can I be the guy that does it most consistently? I think every single one of them, I know every single one of them saw that quote by coach day, which is pretty awesome. It's so real. It's who we have to be. We've got to be the toughest guys in the building. We've got to be the hardest working guys in the building. So it's easy to go ahead and, you know, do that and be that guy. You know, the next day after seeing that quote, can I continue to be that guy when we're in practice 11 of spring ball or we're in summer and we're going through workouts with coach Mick. And it's June 17th, you know, can I be that guy with that consistency all the way up through fall camp? It into moving on into next year. And I think that, you know, anyone can do something just once. But can I be the guy that can do his consistency and if you look at anyone and say anything great, it's been because of their consistency.

2:38:44What do you think being all the traits where does can't you be the quarterback that Ohio state in the kind of magnitude? Is the able to handle that position? What is that fit into your evaluation? Yeah, I think, you know, all these guys were a lot of that was done in the recruitment process. I'm confident that all three of them can be the guy I don't want to say. I think that those guys already kind of check that box. So, you know, now it's just a matter of who goes out as into job. And again, we are so far away from that point, but you know, when we're recruiting a guy, we try to figure all that stuff out. We're gathering as much data as we possibly can to learn about the person and to understand their mental makeup and to make sure that they're fit. It's pretty cool up in the quarterback room. We've got pictures of all the great Ohio state quarterbacks up on the wall. You know, you go through and take a look at those guys and, you know, it's just pretty neat. But above all, you can talk about some of the different guys' mental makeup and what made them different. And so how do we find those guys in recruitment and recruiting? And so we get to the point like we are now where you feel really confident about all three of those guys that they are, you know, mentally tough enough and can be at that point that they can't be that guy.

2:39:50What do you think they learned the most from Will and the job he did last year overall? You know, close to that. Where do I start? You know, Will, when it came to intangibles was, you know, I haven't been, I can't say I've been doing this for 35 years or anything crazy like that, but was by far the best I've ever seen to. And just as far as what he did the best, you know, I think it just having such a complete understanding of the offense, you know, from the run game to the past game to the particular game. And just understanding, you know, the ins and outs and the little details and everybody's job and where, you know, certain concepts or protections or play styles were weak and how to adjust them if we were going to see something that made us weak there. And having that total command because I think, you know, a big part of trust is showing that, you know, I'm competent and I understand.

2:40:54And so, Will built that trust in his teammates by showing that, you know, he was extremely competent. He understood everything and all the ins and outs and he could tell everybody on the field what to do. And from there, then he built it, you know, grabbed on and grabbed the trust of all of his teammates and then he could start to lead. So, you know, the biggest thing, it's tough to say, but I think that everything that he did was kind of built off this total understanding of what we were trying to do offensively. Billy, thank you very much. Thanks guys. Thank you very much. How much pressure is on Steve Fancy to perform to the higher level of expectation in the last two years? I would say that last year was, you know, we excelled in certain things, but we were also trying to get back to where we were in the past. So, we got some great additions and we're excited for that. Ultimately, it's to use some of these guys to be the number one defense in the league and that's always going to be the goal. So, whatever we can do to utilize all the different talent that we have on this team to be the best and play as a team and to build the best chemistry that we got, that's what we're going to do.

2:42:02Which stands out about this offense? Just early, this early in the game, which stands out about the offense. Yeah, we're not used to going against the normal offense I have been the past three years. So, it's been a lot more moving pieces. Definitely have to use your eyes pretty well because if not, then somebody's going to be open. But I like what they're doing. I'm very excited for it. I just know it's making our defense a little bit better because we're having to do different things, not just the normal offense we've been used to. That was going to say just because every other team has some variations that they were going to miss. Does that kind of, do you think that'll kind of benefit you because you've seen that more than for us? I would say so. I mean, as the league has changed over time, I think they revert to certain offenses that do well in certain systems. I would say we're taking maybe a little bit pieces from other offense that we see to do well. So, I like what we're doing. I mean, I don't know as much as some of these quarterbacks that we have on the team, some of the offensive players, but I just know it's tough to go against.

2:43:09I'm a low second number last year, but still wanted to talk to the team scoring defenses. What do you guys really need to do to finish after the quarterback? Yeah, I would just say place heavy emphasis in practice. It's always going to start in practice with getting after the quarterback, not touching him in practice, but making some good moves. And I would just say rush more. I mean, there's so much that goes into it, goes with the coverage. Everybody works together. I would say that we had great numbers, but we are trying to get that number up, but the ultimate goal is always going to be the ball. Getting the ball taken away, getting off the field, we're putting our offense out there on the field, and we're staying off that means that we're doing a good job. And you're already asked about it from a competition standpoint. Before my electric standpoint, having new wins tomorrow, we're going to go to the field. What kind of a cheerio can that do for a defense? When this guy's a limit with this group, I do believe we have one of the most talented linebacker core groups in the league.

2:44:11So just excited what we're going to be able to do out there on the field. I think we all compliment each other super well. Bigger guys that are explosive, so I'm excited for it. I'm going to make it back. Amogies recently, but yeah, it's there. Are you seeing from sunny this off season open into? He's really stuck up as our like later of the defense. I mean, he's, you know, being in his room. I really get to see how he operates every day like he doesn't take a single rep off. He's not just like the most vocal leader, but he's also like he leads by example. Like he is. He is one of the biggest, fastest, strongest dudes we have, but he's also the hardest working dude we have. Like he's he's never skipping out on recovery. You know, watching film literally everything. He's, you know, he represents what a buck I feel about players should be and just learning from him every day. It's helped me a ton. With the position you're not in my middle.

2:45:12Just every day. I mean, he's pretty, he's pretty athletic. He knows what he's doing to. He's he's a savvy football player. And so it's good having him in the locker right next to me and us just talking ball every day. You know, how he could have done this better and I could have done this better. It's just making each other better and we're we're having fun out there and flying around. Hey, you guys talk about. You have. I just think that that is also. Kind of. How does that help? I mean, it's awesome having him because like he unders he really does understand it. I would say he understands the more the most guys like he was captain in all American here. You know, like the stuff he's doing today like every day he'll show some sort of, you know, every single week we're going through camp every day. He's going he's posted a picture of every all American linebacker we've had and we got to learn about him. Like not just the brotherhood we have here, but the past brotherhood.

2:46:14So we learn new new all American linebacker every week and we got to learn what he did for the bug guys and what he didn't leave and stuff like that. So I think it's helped a lot and then you know, he's having the young guys learn the fight song and pop quiz and stuff. So it's great. We're having a lot of fun. Like you go actually. You get accruated to the standard. I helps a time because heat. I mean, like when you walk in the linebacker room, you just like when I walked in, I was like, man, this brotherhood is real. And I have older guys helping me when I got here because we had a we had a pretty old team last year and they brought me in and I came in on a food. And you know, I didn't know how I was going to go and they were they were all cheering me on even though like I was hurting the way, way room on getting cheered on and competitions and stuff like that. And guys like they know your name, you know, really, it's it's helped a lot. And so I think like this past year has really helped me, you know, bringing the young guys, you know, help with them and stuff like that.

2:47:17We're super tight as a linebacker. So it's been very. Who's this week's all Americans? We had today was a pepper Johnson. Number 98 is a baller. So we've had we've had one every day. We've had different guys. So we had spiel in yesterday. So it's just someone new every day and it's it's fun. Did you get here? Yeah, Lauren isa lot of stories about them, which is some funny stories. He hasn't he hasn't posted his yet. So eventually I think you will. So. I think I mean, I think all of them there just, there's so like there's so many that have come through here. And I think it helps like there's a standard like you can play linebacker here. Like the goal should be the best linebacker unit in the country across the board and have the best linebackers. And so I think that's really set a standard for us. You're getting it's structure.

2:48:19Been there done that. I mean, at the highest level, how much does it enhance what he's telling you? Yeah, 100% I mean, it validates a lot of stuff. He says and I think that's one of the main reasons I like them so much is that he's not only our personal relationship is great, but like he knows everything about the game. And I'm learning so much every single day. And like you can't you can't find the coach. He doesn't know more about linebacker than he does. And he's been through every situation. He knows you know, when the offense does this play, what's, you know, what's what's hard for the linebacker on that play and he understands it, you know, finds ways to help us, you know, get through those plays and stuff like that. And then a lot I was I feel like it was one of my biggest conflict accomplishments in my life. That's now obviously I could go one day to be a captain here, but feel like they'll be in an iron buck. I have a big big off season or getting bigger and stronger. I think you just meant a lot because our teammates vote on it too.

2:49:19And so just knowing that like every day when we do those one-on-one competitions and leading guys, people are noticing that I was given everything I had. So it hasn't been a lot to have coach make and all they choose me to do an iron buck. When the past of this off season did you start, you kind of visualize some goals that you had and was that one of them? Yeah, I mean, I think right right off the bat, right when the last season ended, you know, my goal was to be a starter and iron buck guy and just taking steps every day. And we read a book, chop with care water, and it's a lot about living in the present. And so I think that's helped all of us at time is like, what can we do today? We're very best. And so I think that's helped me a lot. I mean, I still don't want to really go. So I mean, we still got playtime for this. Are you just being you the last question you did that? I mean, you're the main group. Are you getting your workers kind of just being you? Is that your work ethic anyway? Yeah, I mean, my parents have instilled a strong work ethic at me and not backing down for many situations and stuff like that.

2:50:19And so I think just going in, you know, leading and giving everything I got every day is just, you know, how it happened. Great. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. And I mean, we're just all excited to go out there and be cute. Okay, well anyway, the fact that the way that this defense has additions on every level, talk about chasing other people to blind and the draft into their, you guys have willing to second level in the third level, to go on with Sean and the rest of them. How much pressure is on this defense to perform to the higher level of expectation in the last time? Right. I would say that last year was, you know, we excelled in certain things, but we were also trying to get back to where we were in the past. So we got some great additions and we're excited for that. Ultimately, it's to use some of these guys to be the number one defense in the league. And that's always going to be the goal. So whatever we can do to utilize all the different talent that we have on this team to be the best and play as a team and to build the best chemistry that we got, that's what we're going to do.

2:51:28What's the answer out about this offense? Just early, this early in the game. What's the answer out of that? Yeah, we're not used to going against the normal offense I have been the past three years. So it's been a lot more moving pieces. Definitely have to use your eyes pretty well because if not, then somebody's going to be open. But I like what they're doing. I'm very excited for it. I just know it's making our defense a little bit better because we're having to do different things, not just the normal offense we've been used to. That was going to say just because every other team has some variations of that one in this game, does that kind of do you think that kind of benefit you because you've seen that more than the rest of it? I would say so. I mean, as the league has changed over time, I think they revert to certain offenses that do well in certain systems. I would say we're taking maybe a little bit pieces from other offense that we see to do well. I like what we're doing. I mean, I don't know as much as some of these quarterbacks that we have on the team, some of the offensive players, but I just know it's tough to go against.

2:52:35Hello, Zach, number last year, but still one of the top teams scored in defense. What do you guys really need to do to finish after the quarterback? Yeah, I would just say place heavy emphasis in practice. It's always going to start in practice with getting after the quarterback, not touching him in practice, but making some good moves. And I would just say rush, rush more. I mean, there's so much that goes into it and goes with the coverage. Everybody works together. I would say that we had, we had great numbers, but we do, we are trying to get that number up, but the ultimate goal is always going to be the ball. Getting the ball taken away, getting off the field, we're putting our offense out there on the field and we're staying off. That means that we're doing a good job. And you've already asked about it from my competition standpoint, but from my elective standpoint, having you wins a margin, we're going to go to the field. What kind of a tree can that do for a defense? This guy's a limit with this group. I do believe we have one of the most talented linebacker core groups in the league.

2:53:36So just excited what we're going to be able to do out there on the field. I think we all compliment each other super well. Bigger guys that are explosive. So I'm excited for it. It's really just our family versus their family and we just got a person beer and we got to win the games and give back to the net. We're talking about the part line. The part line was saying that Carm Allen ran in a really good leaders and the wrong self. For sure. What if how have they both been leaders for you and the every almost even? They've been leaders just in multiple ways, whether our column. We're in there in the film room together on the jugs. I'm asking them about this route. How I could run it better. I'm asking them how I run this route on this play just many different things. I feel like those guys. They're like big brothers and all that. A valuable is that to have guys in the play line football, but also in college for a while. So we're asking various things about college life. I value. It's real valuable for sure because they're their first round pit guys.

2:54:36So I feel like just being in a room with those guys and if you're able to thrive with those guys, you know, some's going good for you. I had always had a good relationship with Tavian. He recruited me hard to come here. So I feel like we always talked and he came here and he's been doing this thing. They've all been doing their thing and Julian saying he's another Cali Kinsel. I had a little relationship with him too. So good to see Julian Lincoln and Tavian all doing real good. What is that next step for you to play in terms of evolution? What do you want to do? What do you want to do? I just really just everything. I feel like you can never be too perfect and I feel like you just got to keep doing your job. So I say maybe just just showing up more and just doing my job to the tee. Going against these corners of these TVs. How does that kind of make you better? It's their hotel. In high school, I had a five star corner DJ DJ on Lee. He's at Alabama. So I always had good work with corners.

2:55:41So I feel like it's just a lot. I'm going against a lot of good guys now. Instead of just being one on one that practice with DJ. So it's real good for sure. Does it take more courage to play the slot? What do you mean by that? Because there's more stuff. But I think there's bigger hitters inside. You have to have a thing. You've got to be aware of it. But there's a lot of courage to do that. I guess you could say that. I feel like I just always play slot and I feel like that's what I've been better at. So I feel like I feel like it's just what I have to do to be on the salt. No matter who's in front of me. How big he is. How strong he is. I feel like if I got in the assignment, I got to do it. I'm looking around. I remember my first day. I'm looking around. I'm looking at July. Crazy. Then I see Jeremiah crazy. I'm just looking around everybody. KJ. Can't and crank it off the bar. I'm okay. Like this. This is the real deal. Sure. How do you how do you take that?

2:56:43Holy crap moment. And then go for it. I really just take that and I just. I just think of the challenge. Okay. Like we got all these attributes. He'd make all these things. But can they get past me? Can they beat me though? So every day just working on that. Just getting better and better. Have you been using all the strong race jumping. Paul Strasford? Yeah, that's my dog. You know, we came in together and just like talking to each other about the process, especially when I push right left. And I was like, you know, we're going to do you and me and then we just suck through it. And then I just talked to them every day. That's my bully and working on different things. Because he's at the left. I'm at the right scene. Things with different point of view. So it's great. I was transition going for you. I was going to make it. I feel every day get better and better. Going against the best every day. So you have to be on your A game. And going to do like CJ. That's my boy. Just getting better and better and transition. Just not an hour, half away from home.

2:57:45So this has been pretty good. You started for games last period. So those. What do you kind of think you did? No, remember, I know you've got to go game. What do you think you learned? I think like for my role, I think I did just enough. When I was a person, I was a person. I feel like I would have done lay better, but just going into that role, helping that's helping Minnesota. I feel like I did just enough, but there's always. I always do. Where's always one for equipment? Where did you see this? I don't see anything. What's specific about our crew? Pass, pro, and my first steps. Working on those things. I had to lift out the power. I just, I was all over the place. And just every, I feel like every game I was understanding on how the game worked. And how to attack, how to be passive, how to work together. As an online unit, not to be by myself. You mentioned the first step. What, what about that first step?

2:58:45Really just make sure I feel powerful out of my stance. That was the one big thing I had to work on. Especially at my last school. Working on my stance. Make sure I can push off and like, gain ground. And I felt like sometimes I wasn't doing that. Even when you mentioned that he had to lose 30 pounds. And he got here. Did you have to change from your body at all? Definitely. I was three, 20 coming in. And I played at three, 20. I felt great. And then they told me they wanted me to go down to three, 15. And I was like, nah, I want to do that. I got three, 15. I started running. I started, they started putting me on the meal plan. They started doing all this. I'm like, oh, how do I see the vision now? Yeah, I was like, yeah. I definitely changed before my body. My arm is steadily getting bigger. The weight room is going to amazing. I'm growing every day. It's hard every day. But I love it though. Like, I'm getting work after practice. I have to go away when I'm cooked. But I can see the results and see the games. What is it like, you leave a place. You know, you're probably breaking some people's hearts back there.

2:59:48Describe what it's like to make a move like this. You know, I mean, basically the midst of a college career. What were you seeking for the event? It was definitely a big move. What was I seeking? Just the development with knowing I can, I wanted to go and get some of the best dudes every day. And coming here, I'll be able to do that. Just to train in program in the culture here. And it's summer. Minnesota. So it was definitely like a easy merge. You had said, of course, you hadn't really thought about Ohio State being not really willing to put a house. How quickly did it sort of emerge? What do you remember about just some of the people that you're going to be? I remember coach Fry call me when I hit the portal. He was one of the first people to hit me up. I was going to I was going to go home anyways, because I was going to go to my mom house because I fasted. When I hit the portal, make sure I was making the right decision. And I was going to go home with my family and just talk about it.

3:00:50And my cousin and I never like a variety of now and half a way. So you might as well just see what's up there. They want to show an interest and I was like, you know, it buys you a. You mentioned the transition from fried a Tyler Bowen just wasn't like playing for both of going so far. I don't really know too much about coach Fry, you know, just a little bit. But what I was in here, I definitely saw like dudes definitely develop like I can see it on tape. Not necessarily like really see that practice, but with coach Bowen. And every day just improving and he's just always telling me things. Little things I don't even notice that I need to work on. Especially with coach Johnson and coach Dickey. Having no story in the room is probably the best thing ever for you. Got some great additions and we're excited for that. Ultimately it's to use some of these guys to be the number one defense in the league. And that's always going to be the goal. So whatever we can do to utilize all the different talent that we have on this team to be the best and play as a team and to build the best chemistry that we got.

3:01:54That's what we're going to do. Stand out about this offense. Just early in the game. Yeah, we're not used to going against the normal offense I have been the past three years. So it's been a lot more moving pieces. Definitely have to use your eyes pretty well because if not then somebody's going to be open. But I like what they're doing. I'm very excited for it. I just know it's making our defense a little bit better because we're having to do different things. Not just the normal offense we've been used to. I was going to say just because every other team has some variations of that one in this year. Does that kind of keep it that kind of benefit because you've seen that more than the rest of it? I would say so. I mean as the league has changed over time, I think they revert to certain offenses that do well in certain systems. I would say we're taking maybe a little bit pieces from other offense that we see to do well.

3:02:54So I like what we're doing. I don't know as much as some of these quarterbacks that we have on the team, some of the offensive players, but I just know it's tough to go against. I'm a lowest at number last year, but still wanted to talk to the school in defense. What do you guys really need to do to finish after the quarterback? Yeah, I would just say place heavy emphasis in practice. It's always going to start in practice with getting after the quarterback, not touching him in practice, but making some good moves. I would just say rush more. I mean there's so much that goes into it and goes with the coverage. Everybody works together. I would say that we had great numbers, but we are trying to get that number up. But the ultimate goal is always going to be the ball. Getting the ball taken away, getting off the field. We're putting our offense out there on the field and we're staying off. That means that we're doing a good job. And you already asked about it for my competition standpoint. I'm going to put my elective standpoint, having you wins a Morgan, we're going to go field.

3:03:54What kind of a trio can do for a defense? The sky is the limit with this group. I do believe we have one of the most talented linebacker core groups in the league. So just excited what we're going to be able to do out there on the field. I think we all compliment each other super well. Bigger guys that are explosive. So I'm excited for it. The guard was going to be up in the air. So I think for me, just starting out, I took it something that was kind of important to me. That whoever was, everyone competing for that spot, I wanted to create a bond with them. Because I feel like a tackle guard bond is important in terms of communication, understanding. Because again, a left tackle is only as good as a guard is and vice versa. You know what I mean? I feel like I've done a good enough job so far of starting to develop that relationship with each potential guy. So that way as we, as spot, as a spot is getting, you know, as people start to compete for that spot.

3:04:56Again, I feel like I should be able to pop in with whoever. And we should continue to keep the standard of the standard if that makes sense. First, there's a guy competing for a spot and I've never spent any time with him. Just one on one during the summer and just taking reps before camp. Hey, what's coming to facility? Let's do XYZ. Let's talk about this tape XYZ. Then they come in and then now there's no kind of flow. So now I'm not really seeing how we're going to fit together. But I want to fit with as many people at left guard as possible that way when the situation's been made. There's no new startup process. I got to start over my process with this guy. I've kind of already been flowing. That makes sense. I think that the mindset for me as always has been that when I win my, one on one, the ball goes down the field.

3:05:57You know what I mean? I think that's what I'm most excited about just being a left tackle is that, especially with the protections that are a little bit of longer plays where the left tackle tends to be. One on one or my, the plays I tend to love the most because kind of halfway through the play, you're locking them up and you just know that he can't go anywhere. You start to smile a little bit. You're like, oh, dude, ball's gone. And it's going to be a touchdown. It's going to be a huge gain. So I think for me, that's kind of the mindset you have to have to have the left tackle spot as soon as I win my rep, we're going down the field. So that's just the mindset I have in terms of how well I have to prepare. How did you go on that mindset and where the people able to get there? Honestly, I would say that mindset kind of came from college. Again, obviously I played with a lot of great guys in college, you know, and glad we have on those guys here. You know what I mean? To throw the ball to as well just because against one of those things like with CJ, you just, again, a left tackle, my mindset was just,

3:07:05well, that CJ just do his thing and that's my thing. I want Kyle to be able to do his thing. Don't worry about whoever's over here, just do your thing. That's why you're here and just throw it to Marvin. And you know, it will be good. You know what I mean? So that's something excited about. And I think all that starts because of what we do on the line. So I think just not just myself, but the entire room takes pride in. Hey, like when we do our job upfront, that's where everything else goes. So let these guys we have with the ball in their hands do all that magic. We just got to do our job just to maintain it when you're one on one, you know. Do you want to just plan that that spot and mean something special just because of the history of that position and, you know, just of all the great sort of play left tackle. I mean, do you ever think about just the past and the, you know, the people, the players before you who were in that spot and did great things. Yeah, I mean, again, I feel like just from just as a young guy in a game, I of course try to, I like to watch the, the greats the game.

3:08:07I like to watch guys like a weight worth, of course, you know, a really Anderson, you know, he played on the right side, but again, I think continuing to watch the greats that played the game just can take the dominate for those guys from me to be able to talk to them again to be able to learn from their story and their journey and how they developed. Of course, I understand I want to create a, I want my game to be able to be like there's no way to where it's talked about in a way of like that's a guy you need to watch just to watch with, you know, the fight that you played with the finish that you played with the technique you played with because those guys played almost 20 years, you know what I mean. So, and again, I think that's something when you watch the guys though, the legendary guys come before. Yeah, you know, they're strong and they're tough guys, but, you know, I don't know, but when you're like 36, 37 years old, you probably not that's not a strong use to, but that technique and just the skill set, that's something that I admire. You mentioned earlier about the guys going out to UCLA and kind of getting out of the heat. I'm curious, when you're working out here, do you do anything outside or do you avoid it altogether right now?

3:09:18I don't know, I'm always outside. I'm always outside. I don't mind the heat. I love the heat. And honestly, for me, it helps. I'm off like 30, 20, so I kind of warm up quickly. So, it's kind of nice when I warm up. I don't have to be doing like 30 minute warm up. You know, you kind of just be outside long enough, go like this and your joints are on go. So, I actually, I like it a lot. Going back to the players that have been in the league for a while, Calvin Beachham is one of those guys that's been in the league for a decade plus. What have you been able to learn from him? I think, again, just learning how to be a pro in terms of certain things. For example, I'm a guy that when I like to train by myself, I just take a thousand reps of a set, a thousand reps of a reach block. I'm a rep, rep, rep, rep, and type, I've done a hundred times and I wrote perfect. And some of that beach is like talking about in terms of being a pro and I thought to me, that's me being a pro is a young guy. I've got a lot of reps in my body. So, I'm going to take a lot of reps and preparation.

3:10:20But beach is a guy where it's like, it's not about necessarily the quantity in terms of it's really through the quality. But even more so, you know, you're off season, you don't got to be doing something like this every single day. But when you do it like from your first rep, even your first rep is not like here. I'm taking this rep. Oh, it wasn't good. It's going to be better on the second one. Like each rep, even when you're by yourself is just kind of, I guess a mindset, I just give yourself 15 reps instead of doing 60 reps. And I sounds like a huge difference, but then you out of mind taking 60 reps from by myself. And there's nobody that's waiting around on me and I'm by myself. I can take my time and I'll do that. But just being like, I'm going to do 15 perfect reps. And I'm just going to slow down and take all my time. Stuff like that. That way your body. I way or not. You're not, you're not doing too much before. Can't, you know. Many of the guys that left guard in the mix were here last year, except forever. How does that relationship develop around other?

3:11:24Yeah, I mean, so honestly, I like that. That's my guy. We like to compete. We've been competing in the weight room since day one in terms of just like what we consider like athletic competitions. So like even in the weight room, I'm at the very end of the week. When we're done lifting, I'll talk to Evan. I bet now you're standing. We'll just do some sort of competition, whether it's grip or whether it's John, but where it's pull ups or something. And I don't let him leave until I beat him in all these two things. Like so. So if we do, if we do a jump thing and like I always thought was the best kind of the most height when I jumped out of. Oh, I could dominate anybody and that, but he beat me in that surprising size. I know what happened on the bike. And then we did this bike thing. I beat him on a bike. I don't pull ups. I beat him on a personal kid. I can leave. But we just have that. We're just always just competing. And then again, obviously, you know, he wasn't on the team with us last year. I think what he brings at the table with being a vet is that he's like a plug and play guy. You know, he knows he's been in those scenarios before. He's played with guys like Penae when he was with Detroit. So obviously, just being able to talk to him and how this is how it was.

3:12:35When I was setting with Penae, this is how it was. I was saying to see all these are the different things that I can do that me or some things like in your game, how you set. And I'll talk to him about what I like to do in certain scenarios and how his set can sort of match that. That makes sense. So I think he adds a lot. So long as you stayed after until you. To the point where a strength coaches like you guys got to go like, you guys should go. You know, we're not trying to we're not trying to break any rules around here. But you know, but it's just me and him just going any loves it. You know, so and even us starting to do that we started to get other guys in the online that tried to hop in on our competition for fun. But only matters what be Evan is just I'm just beating you know, so it's fun. I couldn't back up an opportunity to try and bump that up and go somewhere.

3:13:46I did. I was really just watching it because I mean we played me very well.

3:14:47But you know, I feel like my strength. But I also feel like I can do really good things. Oh, it had a huge huge impact on you know, I love my guys in case they have nothing bad to say about them. I mean the talent here is just being it being around the guys and the thing that's impressed me the most about especially the receiver room is how driven. Much they want to work. I don't have to go out there and beg these guys to go catch and they're already out here catching on the drugs when I come out the truck. They're incredibly hard working just all across the room. We got to use like car no and for him to be honest and obviously a mecca and all those guys like I mean that's just the that's just the ice made like there's so much down in that room.

3:15:56Being able to throw the guys like that makes my job a lot easier. He's a dude man. I haven't gotten to talk to him that much yet. You know just because we've been in different groups lifting and stuff. But man he's a specimen. I mean that dude is a freak show. I mean he is I'm excited to see him on the field. I feel like the resounding thing that I heard from these NFL guys and from people around the league was need to play more. We need to see more high level play. I played a lot of football in my time at the A.C.A. but I only had one year where I was really the true starter and where I played the whole year. The most part I was a backup filling in and I felt like there's a bunch of statistics and things that they look at.

3:17:03I was on the very lowest end of the amount of yards that you're supposed to throw for. You look at the success stories versus the failure stories. And there was just so many signs of a point in becoming back. And really in my heart and that was at the end of the day. I mean it was up to me. It was my gut. I felt like I just wasn't ready to leave college yet. I was a little more. I want to go to a competition. I think I'm going to make a lot of things. I'm going to walk in and just keep going. I think I'm going to have to go to the first. Absolutely. And I mean the biggest thing was I felt like I could come competing here to win an national championship. And that above anything else was one of the most important things. I felt like I just had more. I want to go to college and I wasn't feeling yet. And that was I think what really drew me here. Obviously you know getting to the next level and you know playing in an offense like this. I think it's really going to prepare me for that next level and give me the best shot. And that's all I just really shoulder on the cake.

3:18:04You know for me. Yeah, I mean we definitely talked about it. You know, we're all here to compete and we're all here to, you know, help the buck guys win. That's all we're here for. And I think that was, you know, that was made evident when I came on my visit. And you know, the thing that I'm the most fired up about is how good the dudes in the dream are. And how good they've been to me. You know, I they could have, you know, believed me. I've been in a situation where we brought in an older trans. And you know, they could have been, you know, mad and not taught me and helped me out. But I mean, Devon and Lincoln, the guys that have been around, they've really helped us a lot. And I know I'm older and I've done things but still just learning a new system, learning, you know, how we do things.

3:19:08And how we, you know, go about our visit. Just everything's a little different. So I'm so thankful for those guys. They've just, I mean, they've helped me so much just getting, getting accustomed to, you know, being in this building. Really good. Really good dudes, really good kids. And really talented too. I mean, they can both spin the ball really well. You know, they're young and they, you know, they know they got a lot to learn and so do I. You know, I'm right there, you know, I think we're all trying to learn this together, even, you know, approach over high in a little bit. And we're, we're hitting the ground running. But you know, it's exciting. No, it's those two guys there are especially special individuals. Do you want to have a ride? You didn't, you didn't, you didn't have a foot really going up there. I'm so happy with what you're doing. It's hard to say. I would probably say the draft would have been my, you know, I was, I was talking to some other schools, you know, Miami and, you know, USC were in there in the mix.

3:20:11But it was really, I would say here in the draft at the end of it. You know, there was a lot of different things going on. It was a long hard-prop, but yeah, I would say. I mean, that was the most like, when you first thought you talked to about the way you were acting. I mean, I think it's going to be a good point. How did the competition fall? I mean, nothing, nothing crazy. You know, it was just. I appreciate that. I'm not a spider fan. Yeah, I appreciate it. Yeah, there you go, a little sidetrack. But, no, I, what was the question again? I'm sorry. Spider controversy. What's up? How did the competition fall? Yeah, no, it was, I mean, it wasn't really anything crazy, I would say.

3:21:11You know, I just, you know, nothing really changed. It was really kind of, you know, they were kind of holding me off a little bit. Still after that game, just in fairness. You know, I was, I was patient and waited my time. And, you know, it all worked out. Did Coach Day live on now? You could kind of make the question. It's hard to tell. I don't really know. I'm just a world wind of a process. You know, I started hearing initially they might be interested, but I hadn't really heard anything directly. And then, you know, really getting in like, I really started to feel that interest. Did Coach Day let you know there was a change coming? Did Coach Day let you know there was a change coming? Did Coach Day let you know there was a change coming? Did Coach Day let you know there was a change coming? His point was, you know, it's in the best interest to him and the team.

3:22:11I was all in. I completely understood, you know, the decision and why he did it. What was the defense to about your opinion during the other tournament? Yeah, I mean, there were a lot of things that were said. You know, a lot of things that were attracted to me about this offense and about what he kind of thought about my game and how he thought he did. You know, elevate me to where I wanted to be. And, you know, I feel like one of the biggest things was how pro style be offensive. And, you know, a lot of these other schools that I was looking at, you know, maybe these air raid-type schools. You know, they got great offenses. And, you know, I just put up a lot of numbers, but I don't know how much that was developed. And, you know, playing in a system that coached Ryan, I'm using the big gun, I don't know how much. How much better can you prepare for the NFL than with somebody who's coached at a head coach level

3:23:12and then a poor day level at the NFL? You know, there's just all the things pointed to him. I think you know, you just know that it's mostly the fact that you're just starting to like a pair of years to make off the NFL. Yeah, I know I took a couple of days off after the national championship. And then, shoot, right after that, I'm writing sample Florida and I'm writing to it. And so, yeah, I think while I trained, I trained at your birth performance. I think it's called the House of Athlete or the Compound now.

3:24:13They did a good job, man. They're just bringing us in and the way they went about training us, man. They did a really good job. The buck in the ears. No, I haven't. Temple, a nice, it's a nice city, man. Really nice. The 40 to broad and avert. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, no, man. It's really all about technique and then it's about mindset as well. And so, I say, you know, it's for the love of my brother. It's for the love of Will Howard. It's for the love of the receivers who I got on the perimeter. Just making sure, you know, first of all, my quarterback doesn't get sacked. And I told Will, I think it was before the first game. I was like, I got your brother. I said, man, I'm not going to let you get hit, you know. And so, I don't know if I gave up a sack. I'm not sure that, but I know if I did, I haven't given up too many.

3:25:16And so, man, it's for the love of my brother's, though, man, making sure that the ball get in their hands, you know, the guys on the outside and making sure they get fed. You had to hit the practice field later today. What is something you've been working on right now when you need to? In my game. You can't really work on this, you know, in all season, I feel like. It's more so, you know, you got to put the pads on. You got to go through some inside run, you know, maybe. It's really just continuing to run through tackles. And so, that's, I feel like that's one of the areas in my game. You know, I want to continue to get better at it. I feel like I did a good job of that in my senior year. And so, I just want to continue to build on that. So, you know what I was saying? Yes, I did. Yes, I did. So, people say you look like, I'm not in the bar out there. You get back in the nursing. I think that would be more. I did meet with New Orleans as well. I never got that comparison. Actually, I know I have a Camera shoe. Yeah, man, I have a Camera great, great back, man. Just what he does and those 101 matchups, he's dangerous, man. And he's so smooth. He's so smooth as well. I'm not going to lie. He's smooth.

3:26:22Yeah. Inside zone from stack, being able to hit that thing downhill. And I'll say the next one is probably just an option. Out of the backfield, you know, and man and man coverage. You're getting on that line backer. And so. Yeah, I say to man, the biggest thing is the way that he carries himself, man. And the way that man, he approaches the game. He comes in with the mindset, you know, he's going to work every single week. You know, every practice, you know, he's working hard. You know, even shoot him. I don't know, every good, I think he had a, every game was a good game for him, man. And so, but still, man, he always has the mentality to mindset that, you know, he's going to come in each and every day. He's going to continue to work and get better, man. And so he's definitely man. He's going to be a special player, man. He really is. Man, a lot of ups and downs, man.

3:27:24It's just how you respond to adversity. And I feel like that's something that God has definitely helped me to do better. It's just, I'm not have something to lean on now. You know, I remember before I met him, you know, going through those adversity, I had nothing to run to. You know, you can run to people, but they still can't. It's not too much. They can't truly help you. You know, I feel like the only person that can truly help you is your relationship with Jesus Christ. And so, being able to lean on him, you know, he gives you, in those moments, where it's tough, you know, where it's slow. And when you're behind the scenes and you're going through things that people don't know about, he gives you that peace and comfort. You know, even if you're not able to do anything, you're not able to do anything. You know, I feel like I'm not going to be able to do anything. He gives you that peace and comfort, you know, even in those moments, man, where it's so hard that you can't explain. It's like, man, I'm going through this, but like, how am I still filled with this internal joy? You know, how do I have so much peace in this situation? And so, that's something that only Jesus Christ can give you. And so... The back of the firm, the spirit of power and justice, we want that.

3:28:26Which aspect, the future, those other individuals that you want to follow, will gain from being around power and peace and comfort? Um, man, those guys have such a great mentality, man. Am I just really loved their mentality, especially Q as well. You know, I talked about Will Howard, his leadership, but Quincham mentality, man. That boy just, yeah, that boy just gifted, you know. You see, you know, sometimes he put in a situation where he looked like, you know, he should have a negative five yards. And then as soon as you know it, you know, he, that running through somebody, stiff arm, and somebody, and shoot, it's a game of 10. And so... You some of the things that he does, he just realizes two different things actually. Yeah. Shoot, I think... Yeah, man, I think it's just like, he's just gifted, man, to be honest. He's just gifted, you know, he's a big back, you know, he's strong, and so, you know, he's able to do those things. So, yeah, man, it's definitely, you know, I look at his game, and I want to, you know, at the same time, I want to learn from Quincham.

3:29:27You know, I want to look at his game, and it's like, man, where can I get better at as well? You know, that's the type of player I am. I'm always looking to get better, man. I'm always looking to grow as a player. What's your last experience? Druel Insan. Oh, yeah, he's going to be a great, but he's going to be a great quarterback, man. He's so, so accurate, and so, he's definitely, man, I know Coach Dez is definitely going to get him right, just, you know, continuing to grow as a leader, continuing to grow as a player, and so he's going to be really good for a high state. I know just the quarterback position. I feel like, you know, the quarterbacks in the past, they've definitely been vocal, and so I feel like that's something that they're definitely going to ask him, saying as well, is to be that vocal leader and lead the offense and lead the team. Shoot, man, he has a build like JK Dobbins, and I kind of see them, you know, similarities in their game as well, and I know JK Dobbins, he was a great running back. I feel like he's not talked about his none.

3:30:27A lot, but man, his career here, you watch his highlights is great. I remember before I recruit, before I committed here, I remember watching JK Dobbins highlights like every, every one of his years here, like four or five times, and so, man, he was such a great back, and I feel like, you know, when I see JK Dobbins, when I see James people, I see similarities to both of their games, I feel like they play the same. I appreciate you all, you all, you all going to be back.

3:32:31So, well, if I could pues and see the difference, I'm still out in one, yeah, I can still, yeah, I may have to talk about that. I'm going to go out there and just present my best self here and make me a better person. I have talked to the chiefs. I was a great conversation. These guys have a lot of good, deep lines out there. Having guys there, I mean they feel like I could fit in very well. Being able to have guys pull me in and really help me out and allow me to get in their fist system and fit in there and be a good player there. You talked to him about the watch came and he went to the watch. Yeah, Chris Jones, that guy is amazing. Be able to explore the way he did in the past few years.

3:33:32That guy is practically unblockable. Watching him a little bit, the way he uses his hands, he doesn't allow people to touch him. What was your favorite game or memory in the past season? Definitely win the national championship. There's no better feeling than that to be able to go out there. I mean, with a whole bunch of guys you grew up with for the past five years. You see us pull through out there, hitting a couple of bumps in the road and being able to really exert ourselves and make it all the way to the national championship. You want it all, man, it's a great feeling. What's it feel like? Since being off the team now, definitely sunk in now that we really won the national championships. We're going to sink in anymore. We'll be able to see the rings that we got. We can get here in probably the next month. What's the LXJ team in Japan so close? What does that mean? I mean, it's nice. I mean, especially to have the entire defense line here at the combo. And it's amazing. It's not too many times you get not too many teams of you to have that. It just shows the elite level that we have and that they have been at Ohio State.

3:34:32It just shows how great we are and how great we can be. It felt like a whirlwind going from the plate of championship game in Montreal to now you're here. Yeah, I mean, it feels like I'm still playing for Ohio State, but it's like I'm not playing anymore. So it's kind of weird trying to get to Justin Point that I'm stepping into a new chapter in my life. Just being relaxed, calm, and just walking there and being myself. Are you planning to work out tomorrow? Oh, yeah. I'll be doing the drills. What's about it? How much time have you had? How much time have you taken off yourself? We had a week, a week out through the game and then after that, I flew straight to California when we're on the train. You mentioned that it's like you feel you're still playing for Ohio State. But you've been there for five years. Like how hard is it to like pull away from that and not be apart? Yeah, it was definitely hard the first couple of weeks. I mean, trying to, it was definitely a slower pace. I mean, being in a Ohio State, everything was up temple, upbeat, everything was hard work. I mean, you're doing group activities all the time. It's hard to be able to adjust to be more of a calm setting. I mean, you're doing a lot of things on your own when you get in a NFL.

3:35:33You're not guided anywhere. So you got to be able to adjust to that. That's probably the biggest thing. How well do you feel like that with your energy growth next level? I don't have the time to go for a more recent. I'd like to say that Ohio State is the best of preparing. I mean, you can see player after player going to the NFL. I mean, it's just one of the best players because it's the way Ohio State and the system that they had. I mean, they did things in an excellent way to prepare you before the league. And this is, it's fine, great for the beauty of go to that school. I think it's not about going to line up next time. I don't feel it's about those defense lines. We're talking about next season. You know, in a part of the year, or in general? Yeah, it's kind of sad. Obviously, I wish we could have even just one of them be with me and make it even a better experience being there. I mean, a lot of questions they like to ask is like, who would you bring with you? I mean, of course, it's here. Anyone in my D line and bringing those guys with me. So this is definitely going to be different. But I mean, there's a lot of great talent on these teams, a lot of great D line men in there. So I love to learn from other people, learn from them and be able to grow from them. Do you and cast talent on Sorrento and Sunny, they have the carrier of Pickering to your time?

3:36:33Oh, yeah, of course. I mean, I like to say all the time, man. The Columbus fan brings to Ohio State, man, it's the best player. So being there and being still representing Pickering to the mean, you got a lot of good guys still on Pickering to that. Still in high school. You get the guilt there, so them representing this. It's great. What we was talking about, the Sunny being a potential team of Walker and the Tampa and the Dents of Captain for the team. Where have you seen Sunny kind of grow as a leader? And what do you think about the new role that we've been getting as leadership? Oh, yeah, I think that just the leadership off the field made it so much better. I mean, from a guy who started off at safety, moving the linebacker. I mean, it was a natural adjustment for him. He made no complaints to none of that. He just came in and worked, and kind of like me. We just worked as hard as he could every single day. Just learned a playbook. You can see the leadership on the field. When he's out there calling the plays with confidence and being out there supporting his team, man. His team rallied behind him. You see him very much. It's interesting. I mean, I have no comments on him. I want nothing but the best form, but being at the Penn State. I mean, it's not for the best form. How do you see emerging as a leader on that team that's in line for the last day of the season?

3:37:36I feel like this role, man, I've talked to him. He definitely wants to step up. You stepping up this year. I mean, he's played a good amount of time last year. I feel like him being a go out there and really step up and be a leader for the team. That's something you can do, especially with the talent that you have. What are you up to, Cheryl? What do you got pads on, stuff like that, being a special interior guy. You really don't get to see me run. So being able to go out there and really run and be able to see my movement, be able to see my men and my ability to move around. Definitely surprising a couple coaches. Who is the most pivotal moment that the season could you guys? As hard as it is to say being a loser to him, I mean, that was kind of like the pivotal role that really hit the whole team in the face. And allowed us to really kick the fire underneath us and be able to play with our best abilities. That we knew we had since the beginning of the season. And much of it hurts to lose. It kind of set the tone for the rest of the team and you see how we dominated teams in the playoffs. And people talk about that meeting. Did your opinion of Friday change or how did it change after that meeting?

3:38:37Knowing that he's the coach sitting there taking that's good, the good run. Feedback. Yeah, I mean, I didn't change at all. That's how it should be. I mean, being a coach there, I mean, he's up front and he's going to tell you everything. He takes criticism and that's just something that being a man to be able to drop your ego and take criticism. I mean, that makes him even a better coach. And I mean, not a lot of coaches can do that. So it makes me a better day. He's here for his team. He's not just trying to be the head coach. He wants to be for his team. So I appreciate him for that. So you want to have your championship in the middle of the competition? How much does that still bother you? Is that a lot of food from one? Of course. I mean, yeah, I mean, the whole goal going to a house that you want to be the team of North. I mean, especially with my brother, he's never lost to him. So it's kind of like a brag right to the dinner table. But I mean, every day we won a national championship. So that's something I get to carry on for rest of my life. You mentioned being able to surprise and be able to feel like you're a little bit overlooked just because of how much you had around your life. We had a lot of good guys. I mean, that's what comes to being on a holiday. And you got to tell it everywhere.

3:39:37So I mean, just being able to just be myself and just be able to show people who I am. And that's why I'm here for it. So I'm just going to do everything impossible to be able to prove to the people that support me right. Where do you see or something? Are you going to stick it? No, just give it. What do you think you would do? I want to be versatile. I want to be like I can play a little bit of three tape play nose guard anywhere on the inside. I feel like I'm playing maybe even a little outside with notes. So just being a big versatile feel like a player on a holiday. We were allowed to move around a little bit and allowed me to show my talent. So being able to be versatile and play anywhere allows me to be a better player in the league. You mentioned getting out of it. What are people going to see for him this year? They're going to see it more developed player. I mean, I feel like this year is kind of the set and stone of him being. Being able to take over the role of being a defense and out of a holiday. So I feel like he has all the talents, all the skillset to be able to go out there and be one of the best deans to come out of a holiday. So it's up to him to be just honing on a leadership and be able to be the best player you can and lead others to be just like him.

3:40:40What do you feel like you're the best match for you to get a run for the whole time? I'm obviously just being able to shut down the run. I mean, I feel like I pride myself in my run game and not being blocked by a single person. So I'll just be able to go in there and be able to be a lead run stopper. But also be able to go on on third down as well and be able to show my past rush. I mean, go out there and do the best I can. So I didn't really get to do what I always said. How much do you feel like you've grew as a past russer out of Ohio State? Where do you feel like you've used up your own history? Yeah, I mean, I feel like power is always my go to a past rush. I feel like it worked. We didn't really get the rush as much of the Ohio State. But at times I did get the rush that showed me my power and my skill set allowing to move guys out the way and make sacks. I mean, it's something good. I mean, I feel like I obviously always need something to work on a past rush. There's different moves that come off of it like finesse moves, any type of chops and stuff like that. Just to work on those and finishing sacks is something I could work on. What do you think of the biggest lessons you'll take from Larry Johnson with these videos? Honestly, just focus on the little things. I mean, technique is critical when it comes to defeating a block or getting blocked.

3:41:42So I mean, just honing on those small techniques so I'll always make sure that I'm critiquing myself in the best way possible and not getting complacent. I don't think we got a good other than to your guys who are taking so much. We got guys like Edrick in there, Jason Moore, Ty Worm alone. I mean, the younger freshmen in there, I feel like everybody can step up. I mean, those are guys that have played a little bit last year. I feel like having every position vacant. I mean, it allows for competition. So being able to those guys to step up and really prove themselves that they can play at an elite level is going to be something I'm looking forward to see. I want for you to leave that room in a way that they are prepared to step up. It's super important. I mean, I feel like that was a whole goal as leaders to be able to just elevate the younger guys and allow them. So when we leave that, they can carry the torch. So we're like to say, so everybody moves up from back seats to the front seats. So I feel like we give them the possibility to be able to move up to the front seats and be ready for every challenge that's thrown at them. I think JT said there would be another 15 block guys here next year. Yeah. You're prediction on a number?

3:42:42I have no idea. I mean, there would be a lot of guys. We like a lot of good town, a lot of young guys. I mean, who knows? What do you think it would mean for this group of guys that's here to retire, break the record of one sport that didn't draft it enough in the draft? The record's 15 now. Yeah. It would mean a lot, honestly. I mean, these guys work hard. I mean, being in a hall stage, you got a lot of great guys there. I mean, guys we showed and our film shows, man. I mean, this is probably one of the more complete teams that we had in college football. So I feel like I'm just going to ask how good are the guys we have? And not only do we have good on the field, man, great character guys, man. So yeah. How good is something to talk about? Oh, he was great, man. I mean, being able to come from Bama and build a jump on a hall stage, you feel like you played on for him the whole time. I mean, this guy was a great guy and not only off the field, but on the field as well. I mean, he was very technical-sounding, man. He had a great technique because it's hard to get around him and practice. I mean, definitely showed in games. So he's a great guy. I appreciate him.

3:43:49What's your best guy's here with the longer season potentially? Yeah, we play it by ear. You know what I mean? We see how goals by time we get in the camp. But obviously he's earning his stripes. So when you earn your stripes, you know, a lot of jobs to create opportunities for you. You know what I mean? We have to see how it goes with all the other stuff. You know, once we get closer to the season, and we're getting the game plan stuff, but he's doing a great job and he's taking a great step forward. Tim, when are you the way that you build the room or the way you kind of establish your room now? It seems like it's been like centerpieces, kind of relationships, and kind of building bonds. I'm curious, is that something that you came in with the, like a couple years ago, with the intention of doing it, or is it something that you're like, that's kind of been cultivated over the course of your Thomas position? You guys should be. No, it's been there for a while. I've been doing that for a long time. It's all about relationship. If you develop real relationship and you're authentic in your communication and you have honest feedback and you have, you know, direct team. The guys that have value and character and appreciate that stuff, they're embrace that. So, but they have to know you care and you have to know that it's real and they have to know that you're really concerned about there.

3:44:53We're being as a young man and when you get close to them, it's been a lot of time with them off the field. You could coach them hard. And you can say truthful things to them and then they're embrace it and you have real conversation because you know, the only goal is to help them get better as a young man. And as you see, computers go, and then those journalists and the receivers go for ahead and order a bit of kind of skewed that evaluation. How's that dynamic change in these two years as the scoop's gotten older and you've been better even more counting? Yeah, it's done balanced up a little bit now. That goes with great competition. We have the, we go against the best receivers in college football. So that helps escalate your growth process because if you don't figure it out real fast, you're getting embarrassed. So that competition, but what happened with that eye guy started competing, eye guy started growing, eye guys got better and now it's even up a little bit. So will you get really good work at practice today? You know what I mean? So as competitive, it's fun. Those guys both on both sides of all care about each other. So it's great competition and they all are real close. So you know what I mean? It's that stuff that gets us better that will prepare us for Saturday.

3:45:57So that's the same idea. So like first day practice actually receivers kind of got them because I didn't kind of make a poll maybe for this. No, it's just, it's going to competitive, man. They got the best group in the country that you're going against every day. So you have to bring it every day. You know what I mean? So they, we got a great quarterback room. We got a great receiver room. The running backs are really good. So when you out there going against them is deep. So you have to be ready for it. And obviously, man, we see a lot of good stuff with what goes day in coach Kelly doing over there. And so it prepares you a lot and it helps us grow. So what are your room playing kind of an associate for green and green? What's that? It's the one that you're reading. Or a white or see room kind of like a part of your green. It's like these are the guys you get to play against. Yeah, all that's because you know, that's where you get better. Our shop is iron. So you know, you get to see that every day of practice that helps you grow. It's no better thing to go against every day than to see that on a daily basis. I'm also near room massage.

3:46:57You're looking at to play that. We just moving a lot of guys around. We watch that practice. We have a lot of guys in there right now. You know, we pop up for a four different guys in there. Obviously, Lorenzo's in there. Jameen is in there. Caleb miles. We have four or five guys moving around right now. We just try things out in spring ball. See what it fit. You know, see what things work together. So it's going to probably be some more guys in there. You know, we move it around to try to just get the right fit throughout the N and C. How it goes by time we get ready to start the season. What's going on about Calvin? He can run any strong. You know what I mean? He's fast. Very serious about his business. He's big. It's 200 pounds. He can run. He's strong. He's conscientious. You know what I mean? He's starting to grow and he's starting to get better with it. You know what I mean? So we look for big things for him in the spring. What do you want to see from here? This spring. Keep competing. You know what I mean now? He's made the transition. Competing the day. You know what I mean? Start going in. That transition is all just like I'm in your main last year. You throw him in the fire. You let him go. You compete. You go by time we get out of the end of training camp. You'll be them figured out. Yeah, I want that. But now you just throw it all at him.

3:47:59Compete. Continue to grow. Continue to learn. He has the skill set. He has the length. Now you just got to put it all together. And it takes time to do that. And hopefully you see that by the time we get in the training camp. It seems like it went with your springing kind of click for your main last year. And you start to see and perform a little better in practice. Is that like a benchmark for where you want here? And to be by the middle of spring because you have to be at a certain point where you want it to start clicking? Yeah, by the time you start getting about two weeks from now, that last week. You know, because it takes time because there's a lot of stuff going on. But you know, by the time you get into that last week of spring ball, you'll just start seeing the things that you look for show up. And then you get another evaluation again when you get into training camp. See if this stuff carried on to make sure we go up for starting in September. What's your assessment of growth that we've made now that he's kind of got his cute under one defense? Or do you like it on him and that thing will start to change? He's very conscientious. He's smart. He can run. He's tough. He's made that adjustment because he's out of Europe on his belt. So now you can see he's not making a lot of mistakes. He competes. He's real conscientious. And he has a physical presence.

3:49:02So the growth has been really good and we can look to continue that throughout spring. Coach, thank you very much. I can ask one more. All the guys that came back like Denzel's a great example. That surprised you as you reflect on all these guys that came back late for the LAN. So they could have turned pro. No, the culture here is real. Coach, they does a great job of building the culture. Our room is close knit. The guys on defense are real close. Those guys want to come back. They have an agenda. You know, we want to come back. They want to come back and walk away with something. So it didn't shock me. But it's a good environment for them too. You know what I mean? That's when you see those guys come back. That's a testimony to the culture that's set here. Their brotherhood, their environment. And I coach, they run the program for those dudes to want to come back. Because we go at it. It's hard. It's not easy. It's not easy. But what we do. So in fact, they come back and do that as a testament to how he runs the program. Coach, thank you very much. Yeah. What were the conversations like that? That led to you making an addition that goes into the mic. Making that transition.

3:50:03I mean, there was already a little talk about playing some linebacker. Like before season 8. And it's like I was already like kind of like wasn't really learning it. I know it was teaching me, but I was getting to know linebacker a little bit just because I knew I probably would play linebacker at some point. So then like obviously when Downs came here, it's like, all right. So where can I help the defense the most? I'm saying, we're trying to get our best level on the field. We're going to help the defense the most. So that's what kind of like conversation was. And I just want to do whatever I can. Whatever the defense need me, wherever I can impact most, that's kind of the conversation. What's been the most difficult thing about making that transition? It's less time in space. So less waste of movement. We plan to save you. You can kind of a little more waste move with your feet. You can take longer strides, you know, linebacks will look like everything's short. Choppy, heat-stained power, keep your race. So I mean, that's just something like every line progress the words are honest with you. That's kind of been a big thing. There's a lot of things to work on obviously. Why is it that you and the staff decided that my bad marks were you having made?

3:51:06I think my capability, what I'm capable of, and then like the personnel we have, like I said, we're going to try and get the best level on the field, whatever that may be. So you're still trying to figure that out. Just the moment the conversation was about, you may have been hard being to keep your weight down the stage. Do you look bigger? How much have you changed physically? Are you allowed to just like finally eat now? I mean last year I was eating regular like I was like two thirty to two thirty five the whole year last year. I don't know if people thought I was two twenty five, but I was like two thirty five sometimes last year. So it's not really like anything changed, you know. Obviously I'm a gradually getting some more weight, you know, I'm listening heavier weight. It was different training to be a DB than training to be a linebacker. So you can gradually get a little bigger. Do you, are you embracing that different kind of training? Yeah I love it. I love to be with the linebackers. I think with the DBs, like sometimes in the way, especially in the way where I was expecting the win.

3:52:06So like when I won, I was like, oh, sunny one. But that was the linebacker now. It's more of a composition, you know what I'm saying? Not any hits with the DBs. I'm two thirty going against someone who's two or five, you know what I'm saying? I'm expecting the win. So I love the competition aspect of it. Yeah Cody said you came in and was like, well, he's already bigger than most of the linebackers. So you've been playing Will and Sam, how was the position? I've been working on both, yes. Is there any fundamental difference between the two in terms of boxing? I mean, obviously the Sam, more outside of the box, outside my backer overhang. You walked up on the edge on the tight end. Will's more inside the box. I think the biggest difference from Sam and Will, Sam, you've got to be more outside sometimes during the slot with two. But I think it's similar concept because you just do the same thing in the boundary. It's almost more like the San Francisco feeling of Will's at the boundary. So I think it's pretty similar, honestly. The only difference is that Sam last year I never really was an interior run fitter like in the A gap, you know, going A to B or whatever that might be.

3:53:10So that's a little different. But I mean, I think I got some of that experience as a safety just from a few yards back. So like I said, the only difference really is now is just suggesting the less time. Yeah, Coach Melisid, you've come from where you've come from. You have a better perspective of what's going on. Because you played safe in the early game. Yeah, I feel like I have a great understanding of the defense. I think that safety, I kind of already knew what the linebacks were doing. So now what I'm really starting to learn is exactly like every little detail what the D line's doing. That's not really what I didn't know every little aspect of it. I think I'm starting to learn that now, obviously a linebacker got to be knowing that more. So I think when it's all said, no, I think we have a really, really, really good understanding of the defense and knowing exactly what everyone's doing. So you feel like you're one of the more in the mix of the deepness to the linebackers. You're sounding as you can drop in one minute, fast-reson that you're being. I think you can make some of that anyway. Yeah, actually said, I think you can say it would be an linebacker in the play, you're almost in every play. Yeah. Obviously the play can run away from you, but you know, safety sometimes you're just back there, playing every guest.

3:54:13You take two back battles and it's a tackle. So I think yeah, a linebacker, you're in the play more chance, more opportunities to make tackles. You feel comfortable there. I mean, what about that, obviously your dad is staying out like right there? Yeah, I feel super comfortable with it. Like I said, I think it's just going to be adjustment. Obviously he's different playing from a five than it was from playing from my 10 last year. So I think it's an adjustment, but I'm super comfortable with it. So any of you talk to your dad and give you any advice on the new position? Oh, yeah, we watch tape all the time, watch practice. You know, he was a high level linebacker. You know, I'm just getting started with this. He gets a little footwork and stuff like that, but it's good. I get good teaching him. Obviously coach Lord Knight is great player, great teacher for him, coach and goals. He knows his super smart football mind. So I'm getting great teaching all around. The linebacker, everything happens quicker for you. How much did the experience playing some of that sand stuff by your health? I think it helped a little bit. It's been like in terms of physical like being in the box down on the line.

3:55:14But I do think the the run fit as a will and the sand can be a little different. And like in terms like I said, like being an interior fitter, like your 30 backer, when a you get pools, how you going to go spill it, so things like that. But I think I'm adjusting well. I think I'm picking up on stuff pretty fast. It's still going to be a lot of stuff for work on though. Do you feel more pressure talking to the media with your brother sitting right there? Not at all. What do you think has been the biggest change from linebacker safety? I think the biggest change will probably be that that's 10 to 5. Because it's a big adjustment because everything's happening faster and you got to react faster. And like I said, the waist and movements, I think footwork is huge. You see the great linebackers. As soon as the play happens they're going. They're not taking any wasted steps or not fall stepping, things like that. So I think wasting, wasting movement and being able to see what's happening in the effort fast. It's been a big spend fitter for being on the same table with your brother.

3:56:15I mean, you know you got someone out there that's, it's more than a team. You know, we call each other brothers, but you know, bloods, bloods, a little thicker. So that's always pretty cool. It's always, it's never 101. Yeah, but when he tells you something, he doesn't observe that, you know it's coming from. Yeah, I think when you're blood like that, I think he's not scared of telling me the truth, you know what I'm saying? Obviously guys here, we have tough love, but I think it's always going to be a little different when it's your brother. Because he's going to keep it 100% blood exactly what you need to hear and I wish you want to hear. What's your advice on playing Dickel? Oh, for him? Yeah. I mean, he just so out of leather, he keeps trusting his instincts. I think he's going to be great. I think what's huge for him is like I said, the athletic ability speed. You know, he bliss off the edge. He's, he's, he's blissing super fast. And he's just great in coverage too. So I think something really good. I think we'll do a lot of different things. Kind of like you to a handcock.

3:57:15Obviously, a little different body than a handcock, but I think he's going to be really good at once. I think he's going to be a little different from that feeling. He's, he's, he's, he's just telling. Thank you. Great. A temporary injury here that, you know, we're hopefully getting them back here soon. Yeah, I know progress being made and, you know, the biggest thing you try to figure out is when, when guys make mistakes, do they learn from the mistake and move on from it? He's done that. He's, I saw him flash today in special teams. So, so that's good. That's positive, but, um, but yeah, I think the more guys are throwing into the fire, kind of find out how they respond and, and, you know, a lot of the installs kind of in now. I think we'll still continue to install some things and look at some different schemes on both sides of the ball. But the next two weeks, it really an opportunity for guys to go compete and he's going to be one of them because we're trying to build three deep at each position based on, you know, the way next year is going to be and what to play off. And everything like that. We know we're going to, we used to say a pair and a spare. And now we need three at each position. So, uh, need to build depth at all positions.

3:58:17And so he'll, he'll be somebody that'll be in the mix. Yep. Yeah, they were in the backfield of bunch, especially like you said in the coming out period, you know, first time doing coming out, a little, uh, you know, too loose on offense. You know, we got to tighten that up. You can see the quickness with some of those interior guys and you know, you see Caden and you see some of the movement that's going on in there. I think Jason Moore, I think Larry talked about that he's flashed and showing that he can do it. So, you know, and then also, you know, on the edge, you see Mitchell Mellton getting the backfield as a rush. You got a couple of sacks, I think today. So, you know, same thing. We're looking for, for, you know, three, three guys at each position because all those guys are going to play and we're going to roll this year because we know it's going to be a long season. Yes, yeah. Um, they get any time you have somebody who's as talented as both of those guys are, you know, you get excited about them, certainly in the recruiting process.

3:59:29But then when you have guys who have discipline and then skill like they do, that's when you have a chance to have a great player. I think both of them have discipline in their life. I think both of them have built up a skill package. Caleb already has a year of college footballer is belt at a high level. So, you know, he's further along that way, but but Jeremiah has really stepped in. You know, he got his black black stripe off real quick. He's got a great approach and, you know, I'm going to be careful what I say, but he's, he's been certainly a pleasure to watch and we're all feeling good. He's going to play a lot of football and certainly would have a chance to start as well. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

4:00:35Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

4:01:36It's kind of a build up. You kind of watch them. You know, this project. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. very, very, so it's a challenge for him to be stronger and play on contacts, but if you

4:02:38could do that, the hell definitely could be so. Yeah, well, I think all the other ones actually run hard just for instance. So, I think that's a little bit of a different scheme that we do. Not that they're not that different, but that's a little bit different. They're taking that up really well. It's crazy, it's kind of a great job, but it's really just a challenge that we do. It's a job coming down 8, so it's really well. But it's great to see both games and say and coming in and fresh, we're taking that step. You can see both of that down. It's so much better about all of them, and I think it's a good deal. I'd like to see the suggestion of a certain talent in the country that's been in the building. You know, the guy who's been very, very good, I think he's been a very good player. He's got a very good job, he's a very disciplined and approach.

4:03:39You know, he's a guy that you know can really bring value for. You know, I think you can see a little bit more of the content I thought. You have to be a good person, you know, but I think that they're just going down for it. He doesn't really get job in the market, but having food. I felt like he's just around and great to see the content. I think he's really seeing the positive, he's getting to see the positive. And he's just seeing that I think he's right. I think he's just right. He's got a good way of having food back there. So, you know, we have different needs, different kinds of eyes.

4:04:39He's just kind of like a man. He's got his own food, so he's really good. I think he's a good guy. He's got a good food, so he's got a good food. I think he's a good progress, but I really like to see a picture next step that I see. Yeah, I just want to make sure we have that we have to move to the good candidate. That's a really good conversation. I just want to make sure we get the right person in place and definitely taking conversation and feedback from a lot of people in the program to make sure we have the right guy. Because you're right, like right now, there isn't, you know, like have to get it done right now because of recruiting. I feel like we should have somebody in place here by next week.

4:05:42Well, he's finally healthy and he's actually, you know, putting stack and practices together. So I think that's probably the biggest thing because I don't think, you know, he's been able to really show what he can do because he's had some, you know, injuries here and there. And, you know, he put on a lot of strength and a lot of weight early on and then had a few issues, but now he's healthy. So at least we're seeing, seeing him out there learning and growing and making some plays. So, you know, I think we're kind of halfway through and figure out how we grade it out today. But at least we're making progress because he's getting on the field and he's getting those reps under his belt. All right, guys, thanks. Fans says, okay, and having a plan, right? What if it's not the look that I thought it was going to be now what? Where do my eyes need to be and how does that affect my decision? But constantly playing those games both on the field, but also I think it's just as important to play that in your head.

4:06:43You know, we talk to those guys all the time that we're laying around at bed and maybe watching some film and, you know, looking at a clip and it'll be okay. What would I do here on this play? What would I do here on this play and constantly challenging your mind to play with an imagination even when we're not out there on the field doing it? It's an opportunity to grow up as an opportunity to get better and maybe somehow mentally I can put myself in that position. So if I do get a look that hadn't shown up on tape all year long, but they give us a different look on defense than maybe they've shown, I'm ready for that moment. We're going to see Lincoln grow. What's that? Well, number one, you know, he's an ironbucker. So which is pretty incredible. Obviously, we know that's a big deal around here and his work in the way room was tremendous. So as an athlete, we've definitely seen that. And then, you know, I'll talk to that. We've seen him grow as a leader. He's more vocal. His presence has felt, I think he's playing with a little bit of an edge to him, which is good to see. I think you have to play that position with a little bit of an edge without ever getting too higher to well.

4:07:44And that's contagious. So we're seeing that right now from Lincoln. And then, you know, as far as mechanically, it goes. You know, we're definitely seeing Lincoln get the ball out quick. I think he's accurate. You know, I think that his base has improved. There's been a couple of things that in the spring, he was working on with his footwork. And we've seen some drastic improvements that way. Because Lincoln's specifically, you know that he's at the Black Jersey on a lot of things that bloodstained from the distance. Taken away by going to play day and things like that. How do you see him as an athlete in that regard, while also not being able to see it as much on the practice field since he's not alive? Yeah, I mean, you know, you definitely can't see it to the full extent as though you go live. But we still see it, you know, we still see it. And you know, there's times when he's extending plays or stepping up through the pocket and taking off and going and, you know, there's no question. Lincoln's a great athlete and that's got to be something that he plays through his strengths. You know, that's got to be something that his game has in it, which he's shown to do a great job of.

4:08:44You know, he's been a couple of places throughout spring where he's extended the point and kept his eyes down field and made some great throws. So, you know, that's although we can't see that quite as well because we're not going live, there's still definitely a feeling for that. You're going to work that out when it says, and you're going to kind of make sure that things that do really well. How do you make sure that those guys are trying to win the competition on what they do well, but also making them get out of their comfort zone. So they're being thrust into positions that maybe they're not super comfortable with to show you guys what they can do with those things. Yeah, I mean, you know, as we as we script practice and we go through it, we try to be extremely detailed in the different reps that everyone's getting in. It's not like, you know, we would ever script a certain play on purpose because it fits someone's strengths better. You know, we want them to run the offense. You know, the offense is always going to adjust to the skill set of the players that are in the entire offense, but at the end of the day, you know, the offense is going to be the offense. So from a decision making perspective, from a throw perspective, those guys are going out there and getting those reps and competing in it.

4:09:46So I assume at this point, training camp here, not really taking the intro to who's ahead. At what point do you need to start thinking that way? Are you just right now? Yeah, right now we're just we're just taking a day by day and really period by period on the field meeting by meeting on the field. You know, and you know, the one thing that's pretty cool is those guys are very competitive and they push each other hard and they're, you know, they're ultimately really good for each other because they both make each other uncomfortable because, you know, they're both very good players, you know, and and Tavians right there with them included in that mix and and above all that, they're still friends, you know, I think it's pretty cool right now. It's just, you know, you walk into that quarterback room and you got a bunch of really, really good guys that all get along well and, you know, are willing to help each other out and give each other pointers and tips of the AC something and, you know, it's, it's an enjoyable environment to be able to do. It's an enjoyable environment to be around every day but, but ultimately those guys are competing, you know, they're going out there and they're trying to win the job and I think they realize that every moment is important and every period is important and they're going out there trying to get done.

4:10:56When you talk about a quarter back getting the ball out quicker, how much of that is efficiency of mechanics and how much of that is mental, like how quickly they see something to get the ball out. Definitely a combination of both, you know, I think when you look at a concept, you know, how quick can I process the information I'm getting from the defense and the way that I can process that information quickly is where my eyes are my eyes in the right spot. If I'm looking at the right thing and I can anticipate what that defender is going to do and make a decision and get the ball out, right, that's that's a major major factor in it. There's also a piece of it, right, that it comes down to the mechanics as well, but I think more than anything, you know, it's about making sure my eyes are in the right spot, making sure that I'm trusting what my read is and making sure that I'm getting the ball out and making a great decision with football. Coach, I still thank you very much. Thanks guys. It's not too hard for me to put it behind me. Some have happened in life, some have happened in a game that may not go our way, but it just about responding and coming out here and having fun.

4:12:00So when you see older players, you know, for previous generations, the game that you've had concussions and some of the struggles they're having in their older life, what are these specialists telling you to alleviate any concerns that you may have about the potential of having to deal with those same problems, those forms of concern. That's a great question. A lot of the information and a lot of things before, like during the time of those older players are a lot different than the knowledge and information that we have now and I mean, we're able to treat concussions and also back then is like if you got a concussion, they were sending you right back into the game. Now it's a lot different. We got a protocol and it gives your brain time to heal and everything. So I think things are setting plays now where it's a lot better than before and that time where we're making problems later on. So that's why I'm not really too concerned about it. The new helmet recommended by the trainer or Michael Stank.

4:13:03No, I just wanted to get into a new helmet. I mean, people have a refer to they also don't know team meeting has said how there's a number of helmets are better than other helmets right now. So I just wanted to check those out and see what they are. Is this no question anymore severe than the others you had? No, and that's one of the other things. I mean, I'm not going to give a whole seminar on concussions over here. But no, it's not necessary. More severe. Each concussion, like just what I learned, each concussion is its own specific concussion. And you gotta give that time to heal and then once that's healed and ready to go once you get back out here, you're good. So it's not like concussions are building on top of each other. Like if you give it time to heal, but I think like before what guys were getting trouble with a long time ago, it's like they get a concussion, not fully healed and they go right back out there and playing. Then's a little captain see a side or maybe part of it. Can you just reflect on how you've grown since showing up here fairly 21? Yeah, I've been here for a little while now. I've been enjoying every second of it. I always came in trying to be a captain and trying to lead these guys as best as I can.

4:14:05And I definitely feel that I've grown vocally and just trying to help build the team up and build myself up. So I'm just trying to do anything I can to help this team. How about in a concussion situation like this? You're so close to reminding your brother. Do you have to sort of involve the family decision? Yeah, definitely. They came down with me. So when I was I had like when the team was here doing meetings, I was driving up to a Pittsburgh meeting with the concussion specialist and everything. And they were with me and just easing their mind. That's the biggest thing. easing their mind. They're all they're worried and everything, but they'll be okay. So the play was a large amount of your head and your drum and your head. We saw the play practice. Did you think you could be up for two weeks after that? I mean, I was good. It was that day that I was kind of had a headache and everything. But I was pretty much good after that. But it was just about going through the protocol. I mean, there was no rush back. We weren't playing regular season games. So I mean, I was just really getting the time to heal. It wasn't any rush.

4:15:07So it is very hard to get in the cap and still had a helmet to helmet. From your perspective, it has to be an expert. Are those doing what they're intended to do? You know, you have to take care of it when he got to. You know, I'm saying like guys are still getting concussions and getting a wearing. Yeah, it's definitely still a physical sport. So I mean, concussion happened regardless. I know if you were in a guardian cap or not. I think it could be looked at too. I know and just talked about it on the guardian cap. I don't think in the back that is much padding is I would like. But I feel it could be looked at. But I think you get a concussion whether you're wearing a guardian cap or not. So I mean, stuff happens. This is a physical game. Sorry. Just to clarify this, you said you're going to get any income. Also, where the guardian cap is during the game? No, I'm not going to. You feel good about this game helmet. Yeah. Yeah. The game and the brand of helmet like any details you have. Oh, I'm not sure the brand of name yet. I have to get it from those guys inside.

4:16:09But you guys will definitely be seeing this on the. I haven't got it just yet. How do you feel about not playing in a pretty good game? You have to say your career where it's not a big deal. I want to say it's not a big deal, but I don't feel any pressure any like I'll just need it to play in a pretty season game. I feel that's a great opportunity for the younger guys to get out there and showcase what they're able to do. Well, I've still been practicing and playing and working out and getting ready for the season. So I mean, I know the game. I'm looking forward to that first game. And I'm not really concerned about not being able to get a snap of the preseason. I think about MJ did feel and be particularly during the joint practice is against Jefferson. Yeah. MJ is the number one corner. I mean, you you guys see it. He's going to be big for this year. And I think that's what's special about this team. We got three number one corners myself. MJ and Greg. I feel we all number ones and we able to do different things out there on the field. And other one guys out another guy can step in and not lose track or not lose pace on what we got going on. MJ, I'm going to have a few rows as a leader.

4:17:10And maybe a three in here is trying to pick on this one as a guy that's bringing energy and also trying to bring it along. Yeah, definitely. Like you said, bring it in. That's exactly bringing energy, bringing guys along. MJ is real vocal out there and he competes as he's in competitor out there and just working hard and trying to be the best. He got the mindset of wanting to be the best and he is. So we just go out there and compete with one another. We have happy to see CD Lam get his contract signed and be ready to go out there. I play this game and can face the belt. I'm definitely happy for him. That's like changing contract and everything for him and his family. So definitely happy for him and looking forward to going to having that match up in the game. Always love going against the number one guys and best guys on that team. So I'll be looking forward to it. It ends up we got more to history. The concussions. People talking about. I think when you suffer the latest one, people who cover the team and then fans are wondering how loud the discussion. Could you contemplate the tie or anything?

4:18:12Did that ever go through your mind or do you immediately know that you're going to come back? Yeah, like I said, this is a game I love. I love playing this game. Being with the guys out here. I really don't see myself doing too much other stuff. Unless I'm just really physically unable to play this game. I don't see myself stepping away from football no time soon. Like I said before, I can't take it easy on these receivers out here. So me being out here, I got a good look and just go out there and play. But I answer your question now. I haven't seen myself walking away though. Are you actually at a protocol now? Yes. Hey, did you sell a grade called miles hard in the steel drafts? What are you seeing? Say it again. It's a grade called miles hard in the steel drafts. What have you seen from him over camp? What kind of excites you by hand? Yeah, miles. He's been balling. He's been showing out, making plays against the Vikings. And just making plays out here. So it was big for him to make the team. I was happy for him. We all congratulate him. And he's going to be a big piece on our team. We're coming going forward. And so often, another rookie you mentioned making the receivers better.

4:19:13How have you made Jamari talk about how you helped him as a rookie? What have you seen out of him in his development? Yeah, he's been looking good since he came in. I think he's been getting better and better. He's night and day from once. He came in to where he's at now, I believe. I think that's just his competitive nature. And what he's been doing out there in practice. And us going against one another out there. So he's been good and he's going to be a big piece as well. That's our offense. So what do you get receivers? How can you help other receivers? Yeah, I mean, it's a constant communication. If I were to win on a red, they may come and ask me what it is that you've seen on that play. That you're able to get in position. And I'll tell them that. I may ask them a question. So it's just that constant communication on how we can get each other better. Are you shaded? Thank you guys. Thank you. Thank you. Glad to see you back.

4:20:15Is that kind of the mindset that you take in every day in practice? You just say you're not happy during my catch. I just hold on to people like 98 out of 100 receivers. Is that kind of the mindset that you're not catching? That's right. Is that kind of the mindset that you're having when you're going against Jeremiah and Carnell and Brandon and Amecha? Yes, that's my mindset. In practice all day. I want those boys to give me everything that they have. So I go, I go, I go, I go, I go, I go, I go, I go, I go, I go, I go, I go, I go. And inside of this, it's going to be easy for me and I'll be prepared. What have you seen with the growth of these young foreigners? Obviously we saw that they're not a Jeremiah last year. They're your main sorry. But Calvin and some of the errands and the young guys, how have you seen them come along? And Scott has gotten completely better from his brain. Glad completely better. Is that just time in the program? I'm just getting used to the speed of college support, I would say. What about Calvin? He was obviously here last year. He was. I'm Calvin has gotten a lot better. I would say that he's gotten a lot smarter.

4:21:15And then he also write GB. I think he's about Calvin's intelligence, you know, where he's grown. Where specifically is it? The film room? Is it when I pick it up, you know, the playbook? Where have you seen that? The brain up a grab? I would say Calvin has gotten smarter just like his game now. It's like expecting like a different kind of routes and stuff like that. What did everything start to click for him the last year? Was it in the soft season? When did you feel just coming up with him? I would say in the spring, I started to get a lot more comfortable in our defense. We said you break up the past history with the German name, though, sorry for your ask, but it's earlier. But what is like going up against him to you? It seems like you enjoy it. Yeah, I love it. He's tough. I like going against him a lot. He's really good. What have you improved in your game just from that, for example, those 101 matchups? This preseason or whatever. You know how belly-hoo this game is? So, Jim, he forces me to play the back of the game. If you don't play the belly-gains, then you go get it.

4:22:15Yeah, yeah. And you, Dave, send it. How would you describe this defense now compared to this time a year ago from the standpoint of a confidence factor? You don't mean that you guys feel on the field? How would you describe it? It's different about it, I guess. I feel like everybody has a lot more smartness there, right? Everybody's like, I would just say that we're going just just just just smarter. Yeah, but when you look up and late and ran some decided to come back and Caleb down, transfer it in. What did you feel about that? Did it just grow stronger in that one week span, two weeks span? You're still on up saying? I feel like. Those guys have played at that level. So, level those guys have played at? Yeah, I would say that. I would say that. Like, a downcoming and, what they say he was coming back, Zell say he was coming back, but just still like, I'm really happy to be the netty. Thanks, man. Of course. Variance versus mobile quarterbacks helps us, obviously.

4:23:17You know, just help us home and learn from our, where we had them going through the hole and had them scrambles, where we can learn from those scrambles. And we go from that game and the past game we played against Oregon just learning the quarterbacks tendencies. And when they like to run, where they like to run, everybody helps us out, really closing the cage and placing pocket ball. Is there a fine line between being aggressive but also being wary? This guy can slip away. You're still on up saying, Tommy? Yeah. You can't just go right at him and go ahead. I'm sorry. Yeah, he's definitely a quarterback and then guess out, guess out the pocket. So, I mean, he's definitely a threat. He's a main guy in offense. He runs the show. So, I mean, be able to stop him and contain him, really slows the offense down. So, be able to cage the pocket and be able to slow him down to make him make more decisions on the run and moving around. And he helps us. Go ahead. Do you want to ask about their center? I impress with you with him the last time you guys played. He seems to have a pretty good game. You know, and he's kind of a tough guy to move out of there and stuff he looks like.

4:24:18I mean, what's your impression of him? He's definitely one of the better centers in the conference. I mean, he's a really good guy. I mean, being able to be there and there and be there. The size and being able to move the way he can is really hard to get around him at times. But he's definitely having a game plan and working against and working to tend to see that he has a good work against that. It really helps me. Yeah. Fifth throw of middle. Steven Leonard, college football, Dow. Yeah, kind of piggybacking on that. How much of it was there offensive line being a strength that our team versus Dylan Gabriel being able to escape? And the lack of pressures that we had on our defense? Oh, yeah. I mean, when you got a good offensive line, it makes it even better for a quarterback, you know, being able to roll out to know that your line was going to help you protect you when you're in the pocket. So, I mean, it makes it easier for throws. And it makes it harder for us, honestly, for having a good offensive line. So, I mean, like I said before, just being able to attack that offensive line, attack that weakness system, be able to go after it and make it harder for the quarterback. And he's harder for them, a world. Worker or right, Andrew Gill, like, believe in Doc Brown. What's the challenge similar to Tim's question in, you know, when we play a team like this that runs the level of RPOs that they do that is in the same place.

4:25:21So, how do you stay true and be aggressive and force the issue where, you know, Dylan Gabriel is really going to make it a great. Oh, yeah. Like I said, just putting pressure on him. I mean, do you be able to get it back there? I mean, we got a lot of different plays that can help us get back to our passer in playing and playing to their tendencies, you know. A lot of times they have the RPOs, the RPOs helps them out. It means you get the ball out fast. I mean, things like Jackson running in JTB and get their hands up, knock the ball down, crazy string them out of pressure for the quarterback when you got hands in your face all times. And final questions, Bill Rebenowitz, Columbus Dispatch? We've asked about Dylan Gabriel and the receivers. They're not one dimensional. They're good running back in Jordan James. What makes him special and what's the challenge for you guys? I think he's definitely one of the better running backs on the conference of well. I mean, just how hard he runs is it's hard to bring him down at times. So I mean, as a front pro, we probably stopping around. That's the first thing we're going to do as we go on the game. I mean, past Russian is good and all, but we can't stop the run. I mean, they're going to run the ball there and throw all the time. So all the time we have to figure out how we're going to stop him.

4:26:21We're going to run the ball and then we're going to take him down. So I mean, it's our job as a front pro to go on there and stop the run. We're going to make him one dimensional as we go out there. So I mean, if we get up there every time every mindset, we go out there and we're going to get him. We're not going to allow him to get in the yards, allow him to get going. We're going to stop and we're going to make him throw the ball. When J.T. was up here asked him about how to compare contrast him and Jack as personalities. What's your take on that? How different are they as just personalities? I definitely think Jack is more outgoing. I mean, the guy that he's like the light that shines around me and everybody goes around him and everybody loves him. He's outgoing guy. They're going to come to you and shake your hand any time of day. And then J.T. is more of the blue guy. I mean, a lot of guys gravitate to him. I mean, he just has a bright smile on him all the time. He's just a great guy that people like to be around. And they're two good people, so it's hard to tell. And Ty, I do that one more question for you. Tony Irman, Bucket up. You guys obviously have faced tough play. You did it last week. What's the key for you as a defensive one facing tempo? Oh, yeah. I mean, we've been going through all week in the past two weeks.

4:27:23It's just getting set. I mean, that's the first thing you do. If you're not set, it means it makes it harder to do your job. So let's be able to get on the ball, get set before they're lined up and set the ball. It's one and more important thing. So when we're set, we're able to do our job set in efficiency before they can do theirs. How do you call it that? It could be difficult at times. You know, you've got to look to the signline first. You've got to get the call. I mean, the call has to be set down first. It can't be difficult at times, but that's the definitely what we've been working on the past three weeks. So just get the call, get the call early. Get set. So we can go and be play faster. You've chased a play to one side of the field. And now it looks lined up. They're going to be an end to the other side. So like you've got to just run the signline side, just to get the line. Oh, yeah. I mean, I have been a lot last game, you know. It's hard. It's definitely tough. I mean, that's what we work on to practice. Just moving as fast as we can, we're simulating these things so we can get into the game. It's a lot easier. So we moving around side to side, running around, doing extra conditioning just for moments like this. All right. Thank you very much. All right. Thank you. I think you're not going to get hit, but more preseason and first couple games on the sides of CC with that look like.

4:28:27I think of the sheets, especially on the side of it, man. Like I said, from jump, he's a special, special player. You don't really get that so many players like him that's so quick, so fast, at least speed and anchor around routes too. So I'm excited to see what he does in the future, but I feel like that's the least they can do for him this year. How do you think he would get me out of like one another? It's just speed, man. Speed. You can't teach speed at all. Just having us on opposite sides, even to play on both sides. It's just speed down the field. You can run 15, 20 yard in-breakers out-breakers. And like I said, you're going to have to play two safes most of the time. Or you can run the ball. You can get underneath or else. It's going to be a great compliment to the offense, so I'm excited. Chris, you said you hope this new offense will put playing makers in the position of a player. What about you specifically, what's an area where you think you'll have more opportunity to face your game? It's a lot of areas that you can see to look at, to improve my game, but yards out the cases are one I'm looking forward to.

4:29:35Just more opportunities with that, more space. Just to showcase my speed and my ability with the ball. I'm excited to do that this year. I'm not really showcase the first two years, so I'm excited to be with... It's something that I like to... It's something that I could quick game out of and I've been just getting the ball in your hands. Yeah, quick game, play action. More over the middle routes. It's a lot of different things that you can say that this guy is going to help that, but like I said, I'm excited. How would you describe the chemistry between you and Eric? We're getting way better, man. I mean, it was our first year last year. So it was kind of up and down, but that's what it comes with the game of football. So we worked a lot this off season, OTAs, which was really good. And we got off to a good start these first two days at Camping, getting extra working. But that's not coming with time, so I'm not worried about that at all. We both competitors, we both want to be the best, so we got to do something to be good.

4:30:35Where do you kind of notice that difference is just like feel on the route? What do you kind of notice now that it's here too? That's more natural. What do you mean? It's like, Eric, are you when you're dancing? What do you kind of notice? It's just like, it's more than that, man. It's in a fail. Everybody's good. So we just got to know what each other is thinking, prec and that post-nap coverage is where the ball's going to go. Just read, what read I am and then progression, everything goes along with that. So just being on the same page, being like I said, chemistry is built with time. So it's just little stuff like that that turns into big things is going to be huge. You've come from Spencer Routland at A2, what are your early impressions from? He's real talented. That's the first thing I've seen from him. His arm talent is all the charts. He's a real natural feel out there. He's going to be real good. I want to see him in action, but from my first impression, he's going to be a real good player. It's going back to the sheet that you talked about all the different stuff you should do.

4:31:36You think there's still a lot more there for him? Oh yeah. He hasn't really, I think this is the first year of being receiver two or really receiver. In my opinion, we both are receiver one. So just be able to move around, run real routes. Feel like it's going to be a huge advantage for the same. It's a special player and I can't wait to see him ball. I can't wait to see him get more opportunities. You can see what he can do. By run real routes, you can get opportunities and all the run. Yeah, just getting more, he hadn't really played too many plays in his first few years. He kind of just get thrown in there when he's getting the ball or when he's a decoy or something like that. But he's actually being involved in the offense, always being in. Even on run plays, I feel like he's going to be a huge advantage for him to get a feel for the game and be more natural out there. How far is the receiver like that? The shed kind of, you know, think of him as a deep threat label and then so people just think of him as a deep threat.

4:32:38But you can do more. How hard is it to kind of shed that label or that perception right? I mean, that's what life, everybody is trying to label somebody as one thing or two things. I feel like the showcase, I mean, that's not really who we are, you know what I'm saying. As it gets more opportunities as you can see, you can see he can do more and more. That's what anybody on the team. I'm excited, like I said, for his huge opportunities, I'm going to get this year. It's going to be a big one for the Saints. Does this scheme ask for more blocking from the receivers as ever more responsibility? Oh yeah, for sure. I mean, that's what I told you too. We both have to block. I know we're not the biggest guys or the strongest, but like I said, we want to be on the field. We got to be on the field for the play action plays, all those things. So we both got to go block D-Lime and block linebackers, but that's what comes with football. So we both got to take that next step in our game. Is that somewhere there's a payoff? Like, you know, I thought you'd play from play action next time.

4:33:39Oh yeah, there's going to be a huge payoff. Like I said, most of our office is based on play action. All the in-breakers, all the yards at the catch of a play. So we got to go in there and block. Like I said, take that next step and be able to be great for our team. Like you in here? Oh yeah. So, I feel the weather out here, man. That's what I'm used to. Not using the war and then it's out there trying to catch my breath. It's a great opportunity for us. Are you going to chance to see family or friends at all? So this is their football friend there. Not yet, but they don't come out every single day. Appreciate you all enough. Thank you very much. I would like to see the whole field of all these in-the-well, these in the pocket. Are two big things in terms of his accuracy? All right, down to Barry W.B.A. And Coach, this is kind of uncharted waters with the new playoff system and everything from an offensive standpoint. How much of the offences in? And are you holding things back because there's some poofy? I mean, how do you manage all that?

4:34:40Yeah, I don't think we hold anything back. I think our offences always game plan specific in terms of who we're playing. And how do we attack what they do? Each defense you face is somewhat unique. You know, and so you can say, hey, just teams a little bit like this team, but not totally like that team. So I think it's not, hey, this is a really good play. Let's not run it because we're going to need it down the road. It's, you know, you have to win every game. And I don't think you can take that approach of let's save this for another game because you don't know how games are going to express themselves during the course of the game itself. So everything we do is just game plan specific, especially now that we've gotten into the conference play. Pretty much in. Yeah, I mean, we could add stuff that I think we may have done in the spring, but we haven't used yet just because we haven't faced that defense yet. And for all of our other roles, Chip, in 2022, your UCLA offensive line was a semi-finals for the Joe War award. Today, just offensive line was made by semi-finals for that.

4:35:42Do you see similarities for the way that that unit was playing and the way that Justin has your guys playing right now? Do you make me think back? I think they're different. I don't really, I've said it before. I'm not into comparing one group to another group. I didn't know that. That's pretty cool for those guys. That's a prestigious award. You know, those guys usually go unnoticed. That's the nature of the position. If you're an offensive lineman, they, you know, they're by their close to two value hardware. They don't really get a lot of attention. They're not the guys that are out in the limelight. Let's some of these other guys. But they work their tails off. You know, I think that's the, the gist of any team that's going to be a really good football team has to be strong on both lines. And the fact that they've been recognized for that, that's something that's, that's pretty cool. But now we got to live up, we got to live up to that standard every day. So. You guys don't go on a side of those awards as coaches, but to see the, the way that those guys have responded since losing Josh has a play car and the leader of the office. How do you, how do you, how do you, how do you, what do you think of the even the way that's playing without you?

4:36:43I've been really impressed. And I think really Donnie and Seth have really stepped up in, in, in that leadership part, you know, and I think the two of those guys have really kind of led from the front to tough, hard-knosed physical players. Obviously Donnie being selfish and moving from left-guard to left tackle was a really big deal for us. And he continues to work in his craft every day, because, you know, I think everybody just thinks, oh, line. But, you know, all, all five of those positions are really different. And it's not easy to go from one position to another position. And the fact that Donnie's done that has been great. And I think Seth really, because he calls all of our identifications and, and directs what our blocking schemes will be, you know, is really kind of fell into that leadership role for us. And I think our guys are rallying behind those two. All right, Dave Holmes. WSYF. Ryan talked a little bit about his upbringing at Fenway Park and the store at baseball venue. He's wanting to get your thoughts on playing a game in Wrigley. Yeah, I think it's cool. You know, I, I, I've not seen, I've seen just highlights of a football game in there. And I've been to a game at Wrigley when I was out recruiting once. But, the fact that you can play in settings like that is,

4:37:45it's pretty cool. And I think it makes it unique. You know, obviously, they're refurbishing their stadium. So, you know, they got to be on the, they got to either build the one that they did on campus or go to Wrigley. So, the fact that we get to be the one team that plays in Wrigley, I think it would be pretty cool. And I think our players won't do that. Awesome. More on the podcast. Chip, I know every, every game plan every week is, is different. Contention on the opponent. But it's felt like the last couple of game plans and, I mean, a little bit more on Will's over Russian threat. What's, what's motivating that decision? The defense is that the people deploy. You know, sometimes they, they always have an extra guy in the box. And if you run the quarterback, then that evens numbers back out. It's as simple as that. You know, some teams don't do that. And other teams do do that. So, you know, it's, it's just sometimes when you get, especially when you get in a conference play, I think there's a lot of people in this league that know how to stop the run. So, you know, you got to be able to have a mobile quarterback. And it helps that Will has that mobility. Bill Landis, Kings of the North. Chip, do you, do you ever interrate off the play or change something up? And kind of just for the sake of doing it to break a tendency or

4:38:48put something different on film, or is it always opponent specific? No, it's always opponent specific, but you still self-scout yourself. And what are we doing out of this formation? And what is our run pass ratio? And even within that, within, out of this formation, all runs are this, you know? And then that's always the, the fine line. Well, we should do something different. Well, what we're doing is working. Why would we do something different? You know, so you kind of play that game and go back and forth with it. But we're constantly working on self-scout of ourselves and tendencies that we're trying to, just understand, but some tendencies are good tendencies. You know, you could be, hey, you're 90% run out of this formation. You're also 90% success out of this formation. So, you know, do you not call that ever again because you think that they think that you think this. You know, you can get into that real dilemma of just, you know, it's still about executing and still about lighting up and playing. But we do spend a lot of time on that. That's part of what our weekly game plan meetings are about. There's going to be more emphasis on that in a college football season. They can now be 17, 18 games where you want to make sure you're, you're sprinkling in different things

4:39:52so that if you could game 17 and a team has a pretty expansive football game, you guys feel wise that they can't, you know, key in on something you've done all year. You want to make sure you have those changes. Yeah, there has to be some of those. But again, I think you can drive yourself crazy. But we put this on tape and they think that we can do this because they know that we can do that. They can't do that. And we do that. And I didn't make any sense what I just said. And that's what's going on in your head when you're starting to think about all that stuff too. So, it's that process. You know, I still think you have to part of being really good at it is what are we good at? And how do we continue to be good at it so that everybody in the stadium doesn't know, hey, they're running the ball over the right side on this play because that's what they always do. I think you're still trying to mass some of those things, but you still have to play to your strengths. Can we be broad enough for the athletic shift? You can't offer a question about what's running. I think maybe the last thing that we're going to go, you mentioned, you don't have to do anything. You don't have to talk about it to be powerful all the time. But how do you see and wills progression in understanding or reading what you guys want?

4:40:58And to do what it comes to handing off to Q or Dre, calling or is that more from you guys? Do you have a whole list of more questions? No, no, it's a good question. We don't tell him we want you to do this or want you to do that. It's totally a lot of that stuff is if it's a read play, it's he has to read it out and how he sees it. Just like we don't tell him where to throw, you know, it's the plays called to the Curl or the flat, but it depends, those are defender defend the Curl or defender flat. Like you can't tell him before the play, throw the curl because I know the guy's going to chase the flat. Well, then he sits in the curl and you throw a pick and it's coach told me to go there. You know, we know we told you to read this player. So it's the same thing with some of the read plays that we run. And I think he does a really good job. You know, he was really well trained. I think Chris climate does a great job and calling climate a great job at case date. And you know, so Will's got a really, really good understanding of our running game. You know, it was more of just learning the terminology here as opposed to what it was like there. But I think he does a really, really good job of that. And when we put something in new, it may be new to this unit, but it's not new to Will.

4:41:59It's just, oh, yeah, we run this. And then we'll go back and actually look at case date with him and kind of pick his brain. How do you read? How is it presented to you? What's the best way for us to present it so that we can execute? You know what I got from this back. What do you see as the advantage from huddling more and just sort of playing in a slower pace of playing offense versus basketball years? You have to remember we're more plays for men than you are now. It's a little slower. Just what you see the advantage of that? Yeah, I think you can communicate better. You know, so obviously the thing that's changed this season, and I think a lot of people have slowed down, is the ability for the quarterback to communicate with everybody before the play. You know, before it was just everything was driven by signals and everybody was looking to the sideline and then getting everybody on the same page. So there's some teams and sometimes when that's to your advantage. You know, I think more people do it to us because they don't want the bone or hands so that I think the game has, we don't get as many possessions right now as we have in the past just because I think both sides are doing it a little bit more.

4:43:05But I think the communication thing that you're allowed to talk to the quarterback up to 15 seconds on the play clock is one of the advantages of huddling. You guys have also done it to get more on business. Does it keep you going to be able to do the other team to see? Yeah, it gives us an advantage again from being able to communicate so what we'll can talk to the offensive line about. You know, I mean like normally you'd send a play in but he couldn't give them like hey, these guys are 85% twist and boundary corner on this play. So make sure that we're really high alert for that. You know, so there's a lot more that goes on. It's not a two-way conversation because he can't talk back to you. You know, we have a style of speaking in that situation so that we can communicate some different things before it was you just called the play and broke. Now you can give him a lot more information. You know, there may be a player got injured to play before. Hey, there's a new left corner in the number 15. We talked about him. We saw him on film. This is what he's susceptible to. Let's make sure we're attacking him when you know he's in. Instead of you waited till you get to the sideline between series and go, hey, there's a new corner and I didn't know he was in.

4:44:06But you can communicate that stuff now. Give me. Let him be wrong. Oh, thanks, Jerry. Hold up on that a little bit or just on offensive plays. Do you ever have times in games where you have to say to yourself, I got to be disciplined here. I got to call some run plays. I know it sounds kind of stupid, but I mean to have the balance when you look at this lineup with Jeremiah and Emma and Carnell. And you know, you could throw them all 50 times a game and nobody would question that either. You're still on the same visit. Take discipline to also stay with the run game. I think it takes discipline to know what the defense is trying to take away from you. So, you know, for you to try to continue to throw it if they're going to play high safety and light boxes. You know, you should be running it more than, you know, and when people are loading up the box to take away your run and saying, hey, we're not going to let you run the ball in the situation. And you are still trying to run the ball in the situation. That's, that's what I think the discipline is. So, sometimes it's not consecutive plays in a row or series. It's just kind of what are they like?

4:45:07Because you take, say you're playing Northwest, you have nine game breakdown in Northwestern. This is what they've done for their last nine games. What, as you go into the really first, second, third series of a game, is what we saw in the last nine games actually happening in this game. And if it is, then we're pretty solid in terms of our game plan. If not, then you may have to morph a little bit towards run or a little bit towards pass based upon how they decided they were going to come out this week. Because they may have come out in the previous nine weeks and done this. But in your game, they're doing it a little bit differently. So, it's the ability to make those adjustments and kind of lean one way or the other. You know, I think it's the discipline part you're talking about. Not just saying, well, we're just going to chuck it. You know, but if, if they're playing really deep and you're still trying to throw it deep, then that's not smart either. I don't mean this sort of thing, but deep every time. Okay. You just want us to throw it over there? Yeah, yeah. That's fine. My loss of winning doubt aired out. But follow up on what you can do. You're not a Woody Hayes guy then, huh? Yeah, and that one.

4:46:07Well, come on. You can't go both ways. I've never been out of any of my texts. Okay. See, you're not a bearer, Brian guy. Yeah. Yeah. We've talked about that later. Okay. When you walk into a place like Wrigley Field, you seem to have a feel for history and stuff. And Gail Sayers ran there, you know, Dick Buckis played there. Yeah. Most people know they take the role played and so is your field and stuff. Do you think about that kind of where you are? I will Friday, because we're actually going to get to the stadium and get a chance to kind of look around and see what it looks like. But is that end to the... Yeah. Do it too. And always does. I mean, I love whenever we were wherever I've been, when you get a chance to go play in some of these iconic stadiums and players that you saw when you were growing up and play here, that's always a really cool part about what we get to do. But yeah, that'll be... It'll be fun. I think everybody's excited about playing this game. Great. Go, thank you very much. All right. Thanks, guys. You know, just more so let's get off the ball. What kind of impact did working with Brian, young, this past week half, the defense line as well? I met a big impact.

4:47:08B-Y, you know, obviously, a little bit. You know, we went back to the basics just on technique, footwork, just to fundamentals. And I think that definitely helped prepare this for the game. Did Reels rotation something defensive line different this week? Just getting maybe more plays to sequence together, set a counter rotate while I... Yeah, it was more so, you know, six-play, if a guy gets tired, it's rotate out. But it's a cool rotation. And definitely helped us stay fresh. Even that last drive during the fourth. Guys, we were just a lot fresher, able to rush the pass here. So I felt like it benefited us. Is there also just a moment of just like getting into the game flow when you're not... Yeah, kind of subbing it out as well. Yeah, so you know, you can get more into a rhythm. No, definitely. Cam, I came up with that sack in the fourth quarter.

4:48:11I don't know if it pushed him out of the elbow range, but obviously, Mr. Fogel right after that. Like, Cam's obviously a leader on this team. When he makes a big play like that, like how much maybe does that give a boost of adrenaline to the defense? A big boost, because you know, that's... That's always he can. You know, that's been his can right there. You know, all you look at and just smile. But it was a big boost. You know, definitely makes you get on your horse a little more. And just keep your head down and keep grinding throughout the game. That's key and prestige the way that he's kind of accepted his role this year. You know, he's not playing as much as he used to, but obviously, him kind of just embraced that and does it do anything for you. Yeah, I mean, I've been learning a lot from Cam, especially technique-wise. You know, I would ask him about just, you know, I would look at his old film, and I ask him about, you know, what was he saying? And, you know, during this particular play. But I think he's an awesome leader.

4:49:11He welcome me and we're open arms. I'm coming here. And, you know, that's my guy. Yeah, when, like, some really tired, stands up front of the team, so like, I've been playing up to my expectations. Like, I will be better in the play. What does it mean when somebody hits the staff with a lot of people gruff watching him? Yeah, I mean, T-5, he had to, man. I mean, you know, every game may be your best game. That's the lead. You know, but he came up close with a pick. I mean, you know, regardless of it all, he always finds a way to get an acceptance. I don't know how he keeps doing it. But he definitely, I smile at that too. It's like, you know, I watched him high school, where he just his whole career. So it's an honor to be playing with him. Rizzie talked about kind of changing some things every now and then to make keep your body uncomfortable. What's the value of that from a player perspective?

4:50:12I think just in terms of, you know, staying uncomfortable, things that mental aspect, you know, going through a game, you know, things may not go your way. Just being in that uncomfortable state always having the will to push them, fight through. How have you seen the changes with the benefits rather of those changes that you all make this week? I mean, like, from practice to schedule to your position, roles in the locker room? Yeah, I mean, I think we can see it, you know, during the game, we just watched film. I even know myself during the run. I was just in my hand placement. It was a lot better. You know, because we were just refining a lot of the smaller details. That be why I felt like we needed to fix. So, my think is paying off. And you also talked about confidence, a minute ago. From you all side of the ball, obviously, up there, big round, rising on the past week, how much of the confidence boost do you get from this win? Oh, a lot.

4:51:13I'm a lot. I feel like we, the whole week, you know, we was talking about finishing. And I feel like we did that. You know, we kept our heads down. We went back to the basics. The fundamentals, technique, hand placement, you know, that lean that you have to have. And, you know, just refining the small things and it all paid off. So, it was definitely a confidence boost. How would you describe Peyton Turner from your time with him watching him through training camp and then having a bigger and better success week? Yeah, now Peyton, great player, great teammate. You know, that's a, that's a, I think, a guy that's a team I grew closer with. But, great, I mean, he's a, he's a great player. Hell of a guy. Thank you. Thank you, Mark. Your ship not only from me, but from a few other guys in the online group. It will be really special for us next 18 days. What is that about Austin Terrible? What's that?

4:52:15What is it? It's about Austin Terrible. Yeah, no, I mean, you know, Peyton, he's been, he's been doing, you know, everything right. I mean, he's been, you know, bouncing around. He's been, you know, physical out of adversity as well. But I mean, he's, he's, he's prevailed. And he's been doing a great job leading and stuff like that. Being a younger guy, I'm self-reliant to step up and take their roles. Been huge and only for me, but for our entire team and our, our unit. And so for him to continue to take those steps is, you know, it's going to be really important to this offseason, or throughout this season, through this offseason, because we have a really long season coming up. Like we know, you know, it's going to take everybody. And last year really showed that. So I think that leadership not only coming from you know, like a couple of guys, but from the entire group. And it needs to be so important, because we're, like I said, we're going to need everybody. We're floating on top of the barrier. I mean, we're playing for a while. Then you become a starting left guard. Then you move back to center. And you become a starting center on the national team. Yeah. It's under your audience. It's a little bit of a place question. But what a whirlwind last year came out on top of it. Yeah. As you reflect on that, what does it find? Yeah, I mean, just how blessed I was. Just, you know, continuing to come up with blessings.

4:53:17I mean, I never thought, you know, that would be the case. You know, I know going into Penn State with coach for hours. Like I never played it, but you want to give her shot. And I was like, shoot, why not? And through that, you know, I couldn't be more blessed. And then from taking over after Steph got her. Steph got injured and then being there still coaching me not. Not just like taking a back seat and working on it's NFL journey. But he really sat, you know, sat back and helped me out. Was a blessing as well. Being able to play with guys like with two first rom picks. And three all Americans and Josh Farrish would have been all Americans. So really for all Americans, it was really, you know, such an honor to me and be able to play with those guys. I just been blessed to play with a lot of really great people. Coach has talked about, you know, Austin's development and how quickly kind of he flipped the switch out of the title game, how motivated he was. When did you kind of see him flip that switch? Did you talk to him at all like the motivation he had to get better and play a big role this season? Yeah, you know, I mean, pigs always a really intense guy. I mean, especially when, you know, we're doing any off season training or something like that.

4:54:18Like he's definitely got that gets people going. He's a really strong guy, really competitive. And so for him to just kind of, you know, unravel a little bit more of that and just kind of like bring that raw emotion. I think to what we do has been really just fun to see. And I think it's kind of like a culmination throughout the entire off season from winter training to summer training to now. And he's just continued to steadily incline on that. They're really great leadership. So the long way to go by I think he's been doing a really great job in learning. And so I think that's the key to the capabilities and what he's able to do for the group. I'm just kind of what K. How valuable is the last summer so once it's stability for you to just kind of be able to. Yeah, it's been awesome and to work with guys like I said before like the Charles has been like all like. Probably one of the greatest blessings I've been able to have throughout the last seven months. I mean, through what he's done for me through what coach bone has done for me coach Dickie, coach Johnson. All those guys have really helped me out to become such a better player than I was.

4:55:19It's just been really important just so I can narrow down on what I need to do because you know, as a center, you kind of need to be able to play all three positions and. Getting comfortable like in my body posture and. And stance and how I drive off the ball and stuff like that is important not only for center, but for everything. So I've just been blessed with opportunity and people honestly. The work was playing behind. We obviously played next to the end of home players. What did you learn mentally to help your game grow? Yeah, and I think. You know, from being those huddles being with, I mean, even with great leaders like well Howard and stuff like that. I found that we always play the best when we can play fast and we're having a lot of fun. I think we play really, really hard when we're having fun with each other. And I kind of have that mindset of we're going to burrow down and you know, it's us against, you know, whoever it's us collectively our unit. Against whoever wants to, you know, land up across from us. I think that's what we have our strongest mindset and collective force together.

4:56:21And I think playing with Donnie and playing with Josh fire and Jot or Jimmy and Seth and you know. All those guys in the past and stuff like that. They've taught me that. You know, physically we can be really capable of that for mentally all together. Like we're pretty hard to deal with. Of course, you're going to be like, go ahead and get the biggest difference between a center who's getting ready to start for the first time in his life. And a center who's been through battles and has a bunch of experience. Yeah, I mean, a center who has a lot of green mind as he goes up there and he. He's really just hoping he just doesn't mess up. He's hoping you know, the snag is to go to the back. He's, he's hoping on a lot of stuff. He's not really dictating anything. He's not he's not going up there and deciding. He's like, OK, I'm going to give this guy two options. I know I've watched enough film. I know the tendencies of this player. I've played these guys before. I kind of have a feeling of what this decordinator can do or what he likes to do just from learning from different experiences and different coaches. So just being able to go there now with experiences huge.

4:57:21I didn't think I knew how valuable experience was two years ago. And I saw a lot of experience to get yet. I think in my experience or in my journey, my career. But so far, I think the experience has been invaluable for me just from those past two years to now. Yeah, I'm excited. I was looking up a bunch of like trash talk in German forum. Just so the ref doesn't get us on the couple, you know. But no, I'm pumped actually. It's it's me fun to see him. I mean, I'm hitting me and him. You know, been best friends for the past couple of years living together. And so it's been, you know, it's a blessing to be able to go and play up against him. And I don't really know where he's playing at right now. I guess position wise specifically, but wherever he's at, I'm pretty excited for a double TMI. I'm hopefully rolling over a couple times. I think you can repeat what German. I really just call upon this, which is like chubby.

4:58:25I'm kind of the type to like just kind of keep moving forward and we'll celebrate out here. But a lot of the guys were talking to me about it. We'll never we go. It was pretty cool. I don't know if you also had like a little tent on the sideline because it was like hot. Yeah, our equipment team did a really good job with that. So it was kind of a cool vibe because you couldn't really see like the fans or anything. It was like right over you. It was it was cool. And yeah, I felt like a little huddle. But uh, yeah, I don't know. I didn't really let it. I didn't want to let it get to me because sometimes what can happen is like once you start getting like numbers up, like you'll kind of get satisfied. I'd be like, Oh, okay. I'm kind of done for the game. I don't really need to win. Really, you can get a lot more. So yeah, I don't know. I think it was the first drive was like 1.5. Yeah. And yeah. So I mean, like the second most in a game in Carolina history, like the only one who had more was Julius Peppers. Yeah. You don't seem like somebody who would get to excited about that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I didn't even know that. Honestly, uh, it's still after the game. And that was pretty cool. Would have been nice to get one more. Yeah, it was that was pretty cool. Hopefully all of some more opportunities do that.

4:59:31Yeah. But yeah, it was pretty cool. Yeah. You have taken some heat for your celebrations. Not using the by week to refine any. No, I mean, especially like I'm sure you all saw the video that they put out with like the whole. Yeah, that was pretty funny. I think honestly at this point, I got to like stick to it now. Like now that I've like there's a name for it. Yeah. But honestly, it's pretty because like I've basically like sent, I mean, you guys like my parents like since I was in like middle school, I've never like been like soup. Like I just get really excited. I just like start like flexing out. Since I've been like 11 years old, I've always done that. And yeah, there's like a ton of high school pictures of me doing it. And yeah, that's just what I've always done. So it's pretty funny. I think a big positive for that celebration is like normal people in the stands can do it. Yeah. Yeah, which is not the case with some celebration. Yeah. Yeah. Like even I could do the both. Flex. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There we go. Yeah. But I like the way he doesn't like he doesn't stand over the quarterback.

5:00:33He's just celebrating like dude, he just got the quarterback. It's time to both. Yeah. Have you heard from either of both flex or bow jangles are on the carol. I have not. I mean, I haven't I guess I haven't done a great job of reaching out. But yeah, I probably shouldn't. Let's go. Well, they should call you. You don't. Yeah. Yeah. It feels like it's obvious. It's bow time. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. If I can't buy the bow meal at Kenan Stadium by Saturday at 8 p.m. Do you like the bow seconds? And it's kind of hard to do. Yeah. I like it. I like it. Um, that's actually interesting because uh, came in actually was the one who made that up last year. Like our first game last year, we played South Carolina. And I had like two or one to have or something like that. And so came in was calling me that last year too. So it was pretty interesting to see like the origins of that. Yeah, just need a little momentum. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. Okay. You've legally agreed to give us 10% of anything. You had to go. Um, were you impressed jealous or something else with Javari Ritzies pick six against Virginia?

5:01:40Oh, no, that's that. I mean, I'm sure you all saw the clip too. Like that was all him. Like there was literally like a shallow pat like it wasn't even like a screen or something. The shallow he like tipped it up caught it and then heisman the quarterback while holding the ball like a loaf of bread in the other hand. And like, I don't know. He's a freak for sure. So I mean, that was just straight impressed there. I don't know. I haven't had it interception here. And I don't know if I had any high school either. So really? Yeah, that was that was pretty sick to see him doing it. And then like running down the field next because I was on the field at the same time. Yeah. Yeah. Were there any moments where you wondered if he was going to run out of gas? Honestly, no, just because I like I mean doing like the workouts the whole summer with him like he's a three tech. But like he's not really because like he's just so free. Like he's big enough to do it. But he's also so athletic for his size that. Yeah. No, he's a freak for sure. So all right. Tell us a little bit about growing up bow young bow. Tell us a little bit about your background up. Hmm. Um, I started playing football when I was like seven or so.

5:02:44My dad played college football at Yukon. And my mom played college volleyball at Yukon. So they were both there. And so I always was around athletics pretty much my whole life. We were like super competitive. Like anytime we get in trouble, we'd be doing like push ups and that stuff. I remember when I was like five years old, like we'd have a game where like my dad would sell the cash and we'd like go back basically doing like one on one, like playing receiver and DB versus I have two brothers and a sister. So very competitive household. I started playing football when I was like seven or whatever. Mostly because my dad played football into my older brother. I don't know. I'm not sure if you're all familiar with the like the pop Warner Super Bowl stuff where you like you go to Orlando. So my older brother had done that a couple of times. So after that, I was like, okay, I definitely want to start playing football. Sorry, playing my dad was my coach. And then we end up doing the same thing. We went to Super Bowl twice and seventh eighth grade. And then from there is history high school football. Where do you fall in the siblings?

5:03:44So I've won older brother, me younger brother, younger sister. What's the game most likely to cause a fight if y'all are all playing? Oh, definitely basketball. My little brother was a very big, he was quite the referee during some of that stuff. And he'd always get mad and like call penalties and yeah, definitely. I don't know. We played a lot of basketball. We also, we had like our neighbor had like a football. It wasn't. It was just like a their front yard was like kind of like curved. So we'd like play football on that every time. And like you could throw the football over the house for like the deep balls and it was cool. Yeah, no, we played. We were always outside growing up the whole time. Would you beat your little brother up? So it was kind of a thing where it was like he'd start ref it like and it would give me really mad. And then like I'd like chase up to him and then he'd like kind of like be like, what's that animal that like plays dead? Oh, a possum? Yeah, he'd be like a possum. He just lay down on the ground. And then I kind of like get over him, but like I would never actually do anything because like,

5:04:45I don't know. I didn't want to like actually hurt him and like have him go tell my mom or something. I mean, I mean, I didn't mind about hurting him. I didn't want to get down. Yeah, exactly. But yeah, so there was a lot of that going on. I'm sure he could tell you more, but yeah. You you were academic all ACC last year. Yeah. And you're in the business school. Yeah. Both those things are no joke. How do you manage your time to do all these things successful? Hmm. It's a good question. Um, I don't really know. Yeah, you just kind of, I feel like if you care about something, you can make time. I'm not sure. I've always been like a very big math person my whole life. And luckily for the business school here, that was like the big criteria. Like you do the calculus and the stats and the e-con. So that was kind of right up my alley. Not past my. Yeah. And then also having like good friends to be around. Like I'm sure you all know Will Hardy and Connor are both in the business school with me too. So like we kind of been on the same track our whole career, which has been pretty cool and been nice to have like other people around you to help you get better and stuff.

5:05:48So yeah. That sounds like a very intelligent household you guys have. Yeah. You guys just like Friday night or Saturday night after the game everybody's like out and you're like guys look. We got some e-con. We needed to celebrate like normal with calculus. Yeah, I guess so. Yeah. What do you like to do outside of football? Hmm outside. I've recently I've gotten into fishing a lot more, which has been we. My girlfriend has a beach house or that they live at the actor from Morehead City. And so I went fishing with her dad and stuff and it was really fun. I don't know. I like to do very spontaneous things all the time. I'm sure I can talk to y'all more about that later, but I don't know. But yeah, we I don't know me. Me Carnwell do a lot of interesting fun things.

5:06:49I don't know. We played a lot of pickleball and that kind of stuff. I don't know. We did like a whole scavenger hunt one time. It was funny. I don't know. But yeah, fishing with the girlfriend's dad can be some pressure because like you want to do well, but not too well. Yeah, how did you handle that? It was kind of he's he was legit legit. He's lived his whole life. I was not legit. I caught like maybe two fish the whole time, but it was fun. It was sometimes like the great thing about fidget is kind of like more of like just being out there and like the peaceful vibe was. Almost better than actually catching sometimes. So I thought that was pretty cool. You set up a scavenger hunt? Well, actually Connor will set it up and then he just like randomly like. So like me and Conor were roommates will was not at the time. And they just like really like put a note card outside my door and then me and Kate law. Yeah, yeah. And we had yeah, they just did a whole spontaneous scavenger hunt.

5:07:51And yeah, it was it was fun. It was very cool. Take all day like it was yeah, it was at like 6 p.m. or 7 p.m. And we finished at like 10 p.m. But yeah, they were so even in acting. Yeah, yeah, it was it was it was fun though. It was very very creative by Conor. Well, yeah. So there has been a lot that has happened with this team this year, both on the field and off the field. Yeah. How have you guys tried to manage all of that? I mean, it's just it's a lot to happen to people. Yeah. How have you guys tried to manage that maybe individually and together? Yeah, I think it's definitely everybody handles it a lot different. I mean, just a lot of different especially like obviously all this stuff with Ty Lee can be very tough. For me, I just tried to keep focused on my goals and trying to individually work to get better. Like and focus even more on football and in school and stuff. And I don't know for other people.

5:08:52I think that's kind of like the mindset of the whole team is just we want to move forward and in the right way. And I think that by week was very important for us to kind of like take a time out, reset mentally and lock back in. And I think that showed pretty well these past two weeks. You're talking about that first by week. Yeah, the first by week. What's the best advice you got during that time? I think kind of just that like just focus on what's important and like not let the outside noise affect you too much and almost like just shut your ears off to the outside noise and just focus on the next thing ahead of you. Coach Marrakeen talked a lot about like you know, you have like the high beams on your cars and like just turn the high beams off. Just focus on what's in front of you right there and yeah, I think that was pretty good advice. He seems like a really good coach to me. Have you enjoyed working with him? No, he's awesome. He's awesome. Yeah. What is what what is that relationship been like? What what has been beneficial for you? What's been beneficial? He's just the amount of knowledge he has is is pretty insane.

5:09:57Obviously he's in the NFL for a long time and coach some pretty dang good players. But just like being able to watch film with him and be able to look at different tells or he does a big like run cut up every week for what the team's main runs are obviously like this week. We're playing like week force and they do like the big mesh stuff and so I don't just like little details that a lot of people don't tend to see that we can look closer as. Yeah, he helps a lot of that. Coach Brown has talked a lot about and this has been a heavy topic for a lot of the year, particularly with the defensive life. About rotating you guys in more so that the amount of snaps that everybody plays isn't as high at the end of the year. So maybe instead of playing 70 plays early in the season, somebody's playing 40 or whatever. Do you think that's been beneficial? Like can you tell a difference? Do you think your teammates and your fellow defensive lineman can tell a difference? I mean, there's definitely a big difference. I think last year I was averaging like 15 snaps if that a game and then now I'm these past few weeks, I've been getting like 30 something.

5:11:03So for me, I mean, I can't speak to the fact of like playing too much and then like your body hurting because that wasn't the case for me last year. But I'm sure that like guys like came in and days probably feel that a lot more so being able to stay fresh is a big thing because like I don't know, like say like you're playing the game for 60 plays and like they're like throwing the ball. And you can't even put your best stuff on film really because you're tired and your gas. That doesn't really work well for anybody. So like playing more plays is not necessarily equal more production. That's defending that slumash feels like it would be tough. Yeah. What's what's one or two things I can look for when I'm watching on Saturday that'll help me try to be able to figure out what they're doing. The biggest thing coach Collins has talked about is just like penetrating like if you sit there just sit on the block and just let them do their thing. It's going to put a big bind on the guys in the back end and because like they have to play the run in the past that whole time. So for us just being able to penetrate and we have some really big strong defensive tackles.

5:12:09The quarterback will like step up really far when they're riding that match. So for them to be able to get through the line and get in the quarterback's face. And again like with him stepping up like getting your hands up was a big thing too. But for us on the edges just getting off the ball and trying to get to him as fast as we can. That's a big thing putting the pressure on them versus letting them dictate us. That's that's probably the biggest thing I'd say. All right. Three weeks left in the regular season. Yeah. It feels it just feels like a different team. I don't know how else to say it like what what in your mind is kind of the mindset of these last couple of weeks. And what do you think will be important for you guys to continue to play well? Yeah mindset wise. I don't know. I think I think we're just starting to focus on like the little things even more and just completely buying into that. And I don't know everybody is since since summer workouts we've always talked about like we break everything down on champions and like we want to be the best thing that we can be.

5:13:11And I think now we're kind of like getting towards that point and just finishing this year like going three and no in these last three weeks. I don't know. I feel like that's very important to everybody and everybody's pretty bought into that. That's my like a vocal time. I feel like I'm talking about this. You know just recently. Talking about how what I want to do for the run was I want to bring that energy paper. Right. So last year. Of course, I'm sure you're doing for years, but the year when I spent my own. He brought a lot of energy, excitement, happiness in the room, which is natural energy to where I had to focus on me. I didn't have to make sure other other guys are you know, feels the type of way when it came in here because hump brought that. I'm not here, but I saw a way different room. I want to be that guy to make sure it's an amptical practice. Everybody's high.

5:14:11We're taking a field team on period. You know, it's a low day or something. You know, it's a bit sick, but like I want to make it feel like home. Like you're parents to trip. I want to bring that because that's what we all did to each other. We would hide each other. I want to bring that energy on me, bring more guys. I want to do that from day one. I want to do that from day one. I talk to them and obviously it's that time I spend the offices of the four OTA started. Just being in my self-esteem about what the room needs. You know, because I know I knew we were all as one of leaders. You know, my mom and I thought, is that we need a guy like that is going to make sure the OTA is picked up. We're ready to go every day and I know how to kind of a little things are having a practice and people are saying anything and how I believe maybe different than somebody else maybe.

5:15:13You know, like a practice at least, like a legal positivity. You know, I mean so. But he, the energy yeah, we're beyond just all hyper-view on. So I was kind of, I want to be going on. Really my whole life, I want to be an NFL team captain, like specifically an NFL. I wasn't a captain in high school. I wasn't a captain in college. But I want to make a joke, I was in high school. I feel like I'm not going to be a captain like his that I felt. But that would be awesome. You know, but you know, that happens. I'd be great. But not either way. I want to assume a role as a captain from the perspective of guys on the video award and get back in that way. Yeah, I mean, I can't say that. I mean, I guess the biggest thing is that I felt it has felt like how you used to in the past. But it didn't take just the first day of the day. It took training left and right once this season because I know what was going to be shared.

5:16:20So I think a lot of the grips just to get back to feeling like myself for a day one of the days. And then that whole first week, but now like today specifically just changing some small things with my feet that visit talking about the long coach. I've got some things I can do my feet to get to that to sell my traditional angle that I love to sit on. I thought I felt great already, but I felt even better. So I need more insights tomorrow now, get on my feedback and how I like the right side and on the left side. So I'm excited. I mean, obviously I feel like in the league, whether I left the right, they're still going in. Premier guys obviously, they're high expectations for the left and right tackle. But definitely like the level of energy and like the expectations definitely take the human strength because now tonight the blind side, that's the tackle role. So yeah, I would say in terms of communication as far as just even outside of the facility, just stuff like that, like really creating that.

5:17:28But in tackle quarterback, bond even more off the field, I think has been something that's even better. Cool. I got the text one day. Is that how you put it left? I was like, you know, yeah, I've been training both. I've been training both. You know, I asked after the season there, like honestly, you know, we'll talk to you. So for the season, I just got a text one, I didn't have as much with the free agency. Then so I was like, you know, what I had, I had an old season right tackle. So if I get the word, I'm going, I'm standing right tackle. I'm just doing what I did before I'm built on that. But I saw, I was like, I might as well just train the left tackle now. As if we're going to be left tackle. And I'd rather do that than train all the right time with the call A. I didn't want to switch my feet yet. You know what I mean? So I'm like, let me just prepare an advance. I'll say, yeah, let's go. You know, I think occasionally on third down there will be a lot of twists. I was just not like it's automatic or the car.

5:18:28And I think that was my mindset for like the first half of the season. Like I didn't have to go once again with some pros. Like I said, did that. I kind of figured like, okay, like this is this is the type of rush. I'm going to get like this is how this guy usually rushes. If I get the vibe, this is how the ends like the rush you know, tackles that. First year guys, we got the premier patch on already know what it was going to be. Already know every stud. And honestly, just knowing that's kind of an advantage to so you're not, you're not, you're not, oh, they brought the twist on my side again. It was never airing off. But it come up and I was like, three plays in the world. Two minutes, I knew that it was going to happen. You know what I mean? I'm watching more everybody else and you really, you know, it goes out there occasionally. I was like, you know, he's going to take me. You know what I mean? So, that effect, it's kind of, it's also kind of an advantage in a way. But it's also exciting. I'm going to get the hardest to look. You know, those are real, real reps, you know, the things.

5:19:29Really out on our way to kind of process. And I was like, hey, when I tell me, let me know about, I'm just going to train it. I was training all left. So TAs, I guess if I didn't hear anything about TAs, I came in like, so, you know what I mean? Because just like, I'm cool with training both continue. I would have been cool with training both continually. But I feel like anybody, any position will feel like, okay, like you want as soon as possible. So, you know, you want to give your feet kind of settled in, your hips settled in, your hands, so then, you know, certain kind of that. Would have been harder to hit to work both, or how to use. No, no, no. But, they're definitely, but in terms of the development, it's definitely a lot faster to stay on all one side. But I think having that, the weeks that we had to transition less seasons over, you know, you've had to like, it was fine. We have had, I think, change it up for the moment when we went.