Press Conferences (Joey Bosa)3 Elite Edition September 2

0:00I'm around this place by now, so I told Doc, can you just put one on everyone, every bone in my body? Yeah, but yeah, yeah. So that would have been nice, but probably a little more than a two week recovery time, but maybe next off season I'll look into it. This is a cool deal. When he first got here, did you anticipate that you guys would be as close off the field as friends as you guys have become? No, I guess you never really have those expectations. You hope to have a good relationship and to not clash with our personalities and all that. But I mean, he's one of the easiest guys to get along with, really laid back. Good, great leader, a lot of interesting knowledge and stuff when he picks his brain outside of football. So it's just, it's really been ashamed to not be able to, you know, get that chemistry

1:05going for more games with everything that's gone, gone on over the last couple years, but I'm really looking forward to this year. I'm happy to get another shot. I think us both coming back shows what we want. Want to win. We want to play on a great team together and we feel that there's something special that can be forged here. But yeah, he's, I'm grateful to have him in my life and hopefully we can have at least one great year, but maybe a couple more. If it does come together this year for you guys as far as like both being able to stay on the field, having the production and then like what you're talking about having that team success, do you think it'll be sweeter because of the relationship that you guys have sort of cultivated off the field over the last three years? Yeah, I think that's, you know, the whole team and a big aspect of kind of being a team,

2:05loving one another, doing team bonding, not just being work buddies that you fill up, go home, do your own thing. You know, Bud, Bud had to speak in front of the room whatever however long ago and he's like, he's looking forward to kids coming up to him and calling him Uncle Bud and you know, having relationships with your teammates and not just them but their family, their kids. And it's just that bond, you know, strengthens your motivation for playing. It's not, you know, it's not all about you, it's not all about your family, it's if I mess up here, you know, I'm letting down everybody. So I mean, I think that's kind of preached in a goal on every team that anyone's ever a part of. So yeah, obviously the more time you get to spend together, the closer we get and I think the coaches are doing a good job of harping on that and making sure that especially the

3:11ex-players that have come in, Coach Bowman has talked about her bunch like, these are your brothers and it's really important to grow that bond. So when bullets start flying on Sunday, you know, you're really willing to maybe not die for one another but you're willing to push it close to that level. And obviously you start winning a few games, it's kind of easier for that bond to grow and get tighter. Start losing, you know, fingers pointing, bubble-bubbles and that you've seen it all but I'm just excited, hopefully to get off on a good start. Preseason training camp all behind, how confident are you feeling in your new DC, Jessie's system and is there anything that has been so dramatically different under him? No, no. At this point it's mostly just new names for things, little tweaks to techniques that I've

4:14done before. But yeah, I feel very confident and you know, every coach on the staff, he's a great leader, he takes command in the defensive room and he's very straight to the point, doesn't sugarcoat things and I think he gets his message across well and he does a good job along with every coach in the room, you know, making sure we're all on the same page on what we want to accomplish as a defense. So obviously we get more time, it'll get tighter and tighter and tighter and nothing's like actually getting those game reps so it'll probably, hopefully, come out flying but you know there might always be that a tentative first few plays and then we were counting on one of us to make a big play and then just start rolling from there. Where are you that conditioning-wise after, you know, missing obviously a bunch of training

5:14right? It's hard to truly know until you're out there on Sunday but I've been pushing it, I've pushed it really hard this week, yesterday was a real long day, it's been pretty hot last couple days. So I've been really making a point to run to the ball, just getting a little extra running every chance I can get on plays and stuff but there's really nothing like Sunday and having to play for real at the next year and there's always going to be moments where you're tired out there but overall I'm feeling really good. So you said mind knowing that you guys basically have a second line of, you know, toolean and bud so if you are having a perfect at some point, like there's not really a massive drop off. Yeah, it's huge, it's huge. If there is any drop off at all to be able to have guys like that which I've mentioned is like having two sets of starters out there because those two guys can go to a bunch of other teams and probably end up being a starter on the team.

6:16You know, it buds down for a long time and tole is always just improving getting better. So we're really going to have each other's backs out there. We're really going to stay locked in on what the alignment are doing against each other and we're really just going to try to bring four guys together and try to get the most out of it. One of the coaching staffs, it's kind of said two guys, I'm prepared to guys with a hot word to tell you something. Well it's been quite nice out here. It's a little cooler than Orange County so we haven't had any super hot days but you know the last two, it's been warm but it's all the usual hydration. Make sure you're taking care of body this and that because it starts now a few days out from the game. You get a hydrate now because if you start Sunday morning it's going to be too late by then but you know it's not the hottest thing ever.

7:18It's South Florida. Yeah, it's in route Carolina so that'll be nice and cool. Yeah, it's a factor but it's always hot with the turf but the sun shouldn't be beating on the turf and so far too bad so just always, we're always trying to hydrate right so. If you're just starting now you're probably a little far behind. I love how he's still my coach but he's just another one of the guys, he's super personable. He can talk about different things, nothing's too strict, too serious. It's just we're chatting through techniques and stuff like that. It's just, he makes it a lot really fun and enjoying the club. I mean see your former teammate Sam was with. What do you talk to him about all about Ohio State before he transferred here? I mean not in the back that we're coming here but he said he loved it here and one time

8:20he said he was a bar at an OU. Two years ago he was first to come on the axon and see where the help people could be dealt here. I know you're not going to hide it all. Yeah, no, Jan's been one of my biggest friends. He's put all together, I just put all together, I asked all together. I felt when I told him that I was going to be really excited. I was like he's a bright guy. I said about Sam, he's about to be able to do anything. I'm sure you've seen the highlight of the program in Dad's career. I mean how can you treat no Atlanta? I've been on the like block in here and see him all over the wall. I don't know, yeah, seeing what he said, seeing it in the space in the walls is something like that. It was awesome. He's just a say, just a say that I never said that.

9:22Well, I've been in pressure here for years to come. I've seen it done so much. It's a good thing. Well, apparently he's been a long way. Oh, actually the tight ends have been super welcoming. The G.H. Sean and Chris Cee, they've been super welcoming. And I guess the pretty big cross-lice. I don't want to welcome him. I haven't been out there for a long time. Every one of you guys has shown us that they just have a gesture. They're just a baby. They're really wonderful. They support us. How would it feel to help out? You look out here. Is this crazy? Oh, absolutely. You just have to sort of...

10:23I've tried to work with earlier. This is a bunch of guys in the cell. It's not that much of a job. At first I thought it was. That was your just like football and everyone's serious about it. It's like you're not here. Well, sorry. It's something that you don't know. It's really the poor thing that you have to remind of. I don't know, how does the caliber swear? They should be reaching out the minute. What would you expect? You made that. No, I touched on it earlier. No, you're good. It was a hard process for me, my friend. I entered in three layers. I went out on the news. I knew I could play with the sandboards. I knew where they are. As soon as I entered the quarter, I was just going to mention the punch in all over. I was serious, so that's a great thing. You can mention how the press worked.

11:25What if you think you put on that? Absolutely. You can stand out with this? No, I believe on the selfless player. I don't do anything with the face of the player. I'm going to put on the first down there, AER. I can play hard. I like to get my nose dirty. I just love football. When the conversation, I don't know how quickly it goes. I'm interested in you. I want to reach out to the world. Here's what you're role. What happened? Is that part of the initial research? Sorry. What is your power? What is your... What is interesting in use? Why were you interested in that? Is that part of the initial conversation? Is that later on? What's your gift? Yes or no? Nothing is given to me. I work for... You definitely have to work for the playing time. You can constantly bring somebody that could potentially fill that hole. And you'll watch out for this. It's my role as far as I'm here.

12:26I'll look at that. Will, you said you fell in with a good play at this level. How long have you been taught that? You think I've had a high school year, you just had to buy your time. Absolutely. You've been in the middle of the morning. I'm not working very well. No, I know since high school that I had this evening. The recruiting process was really difficult for me. We had time with COVID and stuff like that. And I was blessed in the land from Ohio. And I was completely to work there. And I'm still fine. I'm playing hard for that team. And I was sad it was a little bit too much in the quarter. I tried to make that next level where I thought I could have done it. I'm sure a lot of guys went through that. We were in the beginning of the year. We were totally playing. I'm not getting the exposure. I should be getting it. I know what's happening in the world. I'm just looking back because what was the link to go through that. And it's funny to you. Or how do we put these on the platform?

13:27You got to where you want to go through your year. It's a different path. Yeah, no. It was really exciting and very stressful process. But like you said, this is the path I got here. And I don't know if you've got here. So it's really just what's to do here. And I was like, how would you say you made the most progress for me? I don't know. You went there as better than I was. How much better before you are you now coming here? What areas do you make the most progress for me? Yeah, so my freshman year I was red-shared. And we had a really good time at that time. And I was on scout team. And that's when I was just every day I put on the work and a treat that I like my game. So I felt like that's where I got acclimated to the college level. I was a sophomore year in this past two years. I went to your sophomore year. It was really rare in my impact on the field.

14:27I mean, all my coaches believed in me there. And I love all those coaches down there. They're awesome people. They program. And they just put a lot of faith in me. Back in that, we just tried to make plays. There's a little girl besides the Ohio State. Oh, there's a head in fear. There's a couple of schools in the Ohio State. There's a lot of schools in the Ohio State. I come by and I'm a coach. I'm a coach for the Ohio State. Did you visit anywhere else besides the Ohio State? I did not. It was a good way to go. I just feel like the field is a little bit in the field. It's just getting to the field to get in the field. It's certainly a little bit in the field. Oh, yeah, absolutely. Nothing's given to me. I work for every other day in the morning. But that's what I was going to do.

15:29What's your strong, what's your world? I love walking. I feel like that's one thing that I can separate myself from others. I love how they involve me in the past. How do you put it in? Awesome. Yeah, first week, I mean, obviously it was taught me. I was like a bit unsettling. I got to know a lot of the guys. How about the morning work now? Oh, yeah, they're easy. I just had one. I had a pretty solid one. You're feeling good. Yeah, I'm feeling good. Yeah. Oh, yeah, no. I know. I think they have a little bit of past work. Some of them. So, I'm saying good things about each other. And it was really cool.

16:29Do you see this in the movies? Oh, actually. They're like this. They get the traditional movies. That one. Yeah. I don't know if that's something you can't really get. You don't know how this goes. Yeah. No, they're both young guys. They're the Super�ion of the movie. They're not like coaches. I could treat them like they could treat me like we're the life of a buddy. I think that's something that we really, really like, got through, kind of, you know, and really, you know, having more questions. Is there anything you'd like to say? There's just all of these things. Where is there anything you'd like to say about this? No, I'd say it's super, super similar, especially mocked and wise. Like, I'll try and just same job done. Some sources might be a little bit of a difference, but I think it's pretty similar. What do you think will be enough for people with name watching? You're just, how hard I go and just like how I do it.

17:33I mean, you can finish blocks, right? You can play with people. That's the goal. I mean, I guess I've been training for this. I think that's a lot of time. I guess so. It's just awesome culture. I'm a cultured person. Yeah. You can't just sit down. I'm a traditional movie. It was a little rough in the game. Just not knowing a bunch of people here, but I was a little welcoming. And I'm trying to make this happen. I feel like you and you are all probably together. Yeah, everyone's different. We still have some weaknesses. Probably because we're starting this, so I'm excited about really looking at those guys. And it's called, not just, how much just getting the plague into this. I think that's one of the best defense in the country. I think that'll be awesome for me. It's just how I can even games. It's like, I'm going to get some of the best in games

18:34where I'm going to be like that alone. So, you know, you're awesome. You're like a talent game in games. I just always like to learn a few things. Just to get all of that. Yeah. What is it like for you? No, I think Athens is an awesome place. Yeah, I know. I mean, again, they are full of injuries. I'm definitely the best level of positive, but, I love that. I think the super-places are just polished and I know all the signs out there. I mean, it's close by. I'm sure I'll visit here in New York, New York,

19:43New York, New York. All those guys want to pass the players. They're very good people and really good coaches. And they're just around the corner of the house. This is where we are. There's some work that I would like to do. You know, for the last two weeks, you can get your whole set of 27, 27, 27, and then you can get your personal guess. You can get your personal guess. I'm sure it's something that they can get. I'm sure they can get their personal guess. Right. You can get their personal guess. It's pretty similar. But how does this really get to you with the two-bid-hands? Well, I haven't got the play, so I'm still up for it. I just have to interrupt, but just like the culture and the awkward stuff like that, when you're saying that you're going to say the goal well, I'm going to play it with you. Yeah, I like that. It's a really good question to build on. Awesome. Awesome guy, he's super friendly.

20:45He came out and reached out to us when we're throwing out skins and making sure we're doing it. He's always wanting to get the best test of us, and making sure that we're on top of our stuff. He's really nice to me. He's really nice to me. I used to have a ball dance in the back. He's a 2-1-2, 24-1-2. He's about to put the side up. Yeah. So I was a late transfer portal, which brought a lot of stuff like that. He was just that we're not option. And it was pretty stressful when I entered the portal. There's a lot of coaches we're reaching out. But I'm not going to say just that I'm telling you that the coach is the success in background in the culture. This really impressed me, and I think this is that reason for having a lot of fun. The same rules, so how do you feel about this little traction? Yes, this way, the play culture.

21:45Well, it was honestly just opportunity wise. Ohio is my only home for high school. So it's a street up a lot of stuff. And I'm super grateful. I feel like it's well behind the deck. I think I'm the way to go. But yeah, that's why I came out here. And yeah, it's how we're going to have fun. How was it to see you? As you can see, we were in tradition. We were still in the Chicago area. We saw this all the time. We were in the hypertension. The pain took a little bit longer. Yeah. We're all in the opposite way. Yeah. You know what? No, I'm still getting used to it. Yeah, it's really about the face of these things. I'm getting used to that. I'm trying to do the walking, but off the field. It was a matter of course.

22:46You know, there are methods for me. It's a very simple thing. People saw me the police, I think. There's a few of them that are in practice. I mean, yeah, I love this. I love this little house pizza. Yeah, some good house pizza, never. I've never seen that before. But now there's some things that I've seen with these three guys. And now it's oversteer. There's still a lot of options. Oh yeah. No, I've been aware of some of the work that came to the event. So, I'm just going to close. Thank you. Thank you all. Oh yeah. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. How far back? Sixteen feet back. Was almost six feet like this. Nine, ten, twelve.

23:47The biggest wasn't that long. Was it somebody from that area? Wait. Sakita Tokyo. They, ups in the downs of the season, which every team goes through. I know I got a little off topic, but I think the X's and O's are going to come, but the camaraderie that I feel on this team that's being built right now is extremely special. And I think it makes the grind a lot easier. Cliff runs a unique offense compared to NFL. Especially with the way he uses receivers, how do you anticipate your role changing and how do you view the offense from a receiver perspective specifically? Yeah, I mean, I think he likes to really push the ball down the field. He likes to be balanced. He likes to give different looks to a difference. We're going to not to try to get too much into it, but we're going to use some motion, move some guys around and things of that nature. I think for myself, I feel comfortable playing any of the positions that is asked whether

24:48it's the slot, the outside positions, and unique part about our offenses. I don't think necessarily you play the X or the Z because the pit on the formation of the hash, you can be the opposite. You can be the X, but then you're to the field now you're the Z. So you got to really learn the entire concept and know where you're out in the field, which I think makes everybody smarter players because you don't pigeonhole yourself, I just play X. I only know this position. You get in two minutes, you're the Z. Now you got to know what to do. You may have the clear out route or you may have the backside dig. You got to know what you're doing. So I think he doesn't just say like we're going to do this offense. He's really trying to create an offense that fits our personnel really well. That field boundary thing, that's a thing in college, but it seems like it's more unique to clip. Is that something you're used to seeing with other offenses? Yeah, definitely. I think if I'm on the left hash, technically I'm the X, I'm in the boundary, but if we're on the right hash, I'm still on the left side. I'm really the Z in the concept because I'm to the field, I'm to the strength of the

25:52tie-downs. So I've been in offenses like it's similar like that before and I just think he, one thing I think that's really stood out is the compliments of our routes that we have so far. I feel like we have a chance to really run similar stems, but there's different routes off those stems and things like that, which I think for receiver like myself who you get a really good look at DBs and they study your film, they study your splits, like having routes that look the same, but break off at different angles is extremely important because it feels like you have some versatility in your bag to go out with versus like you got this hitch again, you're back side, that's all you got, you know what I mean? So, yeah, he's just been a really good player, person to work with and he's been really communicated with the leaders and how we want this offense to look like and some of the ideas that we may have as well. So it's been a really cool transition. You talk about the transitions, your third offense in three years, probably your fourth

26:53in six years. Yeah. How do you not kind of build up some barriers? Yeah, man, I got to do this again. Right. I think, you know, human nature is always a factor in whatever you do in life, but I think I try to make a conscious choice of coming in with a new year mentality each and every year and I think it's easy because we've had so many changes and it's been great working with Marcus and Jaden and Jeff and Sam, all of everybody. It's been great working with all the quarterbacks and I just have a mentality and not really being complacent. I try to really focus on the things that I can come back better at this year and I've been working my butt off to do that. So I think the easy thing and when I was younger, you're like, dang, you just want that consistency. You know what I mean? Like, you want that something you could depend on, but life isn't always like that. So I've been reinvigorated because of just the energy that DQ brings into our building

27:58each and every day and the coaches as well. Like, it's fun competing, you know what I mean? And sometimes I could get lost in the grind, but I think the reason why you make it here at this level is because you fall in love with the competition of it. And I think the competition breathes the success because that is really where you, the iron truly sharpens iron. So you know, other guys are going to make plays, but you get excited to go in there and know that the next day we're going to go right back after the defense. So for myself, I'm just looking forward to continue to grow with the quarterbacks that we have. I mean, year six now, which is extreme blessing and one of the leaders in our room and I just try to take the bull by the horns with that. And so that's really been my focus and, you know, I'm excited for another year. To us, it's looked like you're being more vocal on the sideline to help young guys. Definitely. Something you decided this offseason or? I think that's been a part of my maturation process as a leader. I've always seen myself as somebody that was a leader by example.

29:04But from coaches and other teammates I've had over the years, guys like to hear what I have to say for whatever reason sometimes, you know? And I think the biggest thing where I've tried to figure out where I fit in with my vocal leadership is I never wanted to be like a dictator. You know what I mean? I never wanted to tell guys what to do or be a yell or things like that. Like when I say something, I wanted to have power. I wanted to have meaning. And I hope, you know, the guys would feel the same way if they were to ask them that question. Because I want to see all these guys win, man. Like it's hard to make it in this league and stay in a career. And so anyway, I could help the receivers, the DBs. I'm talking to some alignment, Johnny, who's rehabbing his foot. You know what I mean? Like everybody has a role and everybody has a different story and path. And so if I could share what I've been through my testimony to help them or do things that kind of slow down the process, I'm going to try to do that because we need everybody from the rookies to the 10 year vets to make this thing work. So more so, I try to speak to what I know and really those honest conversations that

30:12I try to have with guys where they know I'm coming from a good place. And I think I'm not the type of guy where I'm just going to talk at them. Like if they see something, like I could take a coaching point from Luke McCaffrey. I could take a coaching point from Deami, from Jahan, from Marcus, from anybody. You know, like I think that's what makes you a great player when you can really be coachable from anybody and not take it from a personal standpoint. Hi. How are you doing? Good. Going back to what you were saying about Cliff and the offense, how is he as a teacher in teaching all of us? Yeah, I mean, I think he does a really great job of making things simple, first and foremost. He doesn't overcoach. And I think that's the trust that he has in our group and his coaches, our position coaches to fill in the details. So we'll have an install meeting and it'll be a good amount of time. But then our position coaches will have time and we'll make it specific to that position. And so then we'll come in and have a walkthrough. And then after that, we'll have another walkthrough.

31:12And so I don't think there's been a time where I've come out here and I'm kind of worried about what I got. You know what I mean? And when you get into certain offices, there could be so many details where you could be overwhelmed. And I think then it forces, it kind of separates guys in a sense that like one guy may study more than another guy. But when you have these sessions that we have where we're having installs in the morning, we're having two walkthroughs and then we're coming on the field and doing it. Like, I think you've noticed a lot of guys are playing a lot faster and more confident because he's keeping it simple. But also he's very particular in what he's expecting. But it's not a lot. So there's not a pressure of to get it right. But at the same time, you know it's expected of you and you know you're going to have the tools given to you to be successful out there on the field. And this offseason, just the totality of change from front office players coaches, the turf field. I mean, what does that been like for you just to see what's going on? It's been fun. You know, I think from Mr. Harris and the entire ownership group down to Adam Peters,

32:16down to DQ, down to Jada, who he drafted and bringing in Marcus and Jeff and all those guys and down to leaders. We have on our team. I think it was extremely specific on the way they tried to build this thing going into this year. First, having the right people, bringing in leaders, bringing in guys who love to compete. First thing that DQ said when he came here was, and his first meeting, like if you love to compete, this is going to be the place for you. And I love it. You know what I mean? I love bags and going at it with the DBs every day. Like the little mundane stuff can seem a little boring. But I think that was where you make the gains during the offseason where you're really focused on, hey, I'm going to give all I got for this day and I'm going to get better. And then I'm going to learn from the film and come back tomorrow and ready to do it again. And he also understands like the benefits of having breaks. He's given us breaks. We've had weeks off here and there that we can compose ourselves, but then come back and give it all we got. You know what I mean? And when you got a coach that understands the physicality of an entire season where you guys do need breaks by the same time we're going to get after it, it makes it fun as a

33:19leader because you can take that to your room and be like, yo, we got these, we got this week. And that's extremely important. But you know, we have this little break coming up where you're going to get your your mind and your body and your soul right. So coming into this season, I'm really optimistic of what we can be this year. And I think it started with the foundation that the ownership group and the entire staff has built. And now it's on myself as a leader to continue to hone that into the locker room. But I think it's great because we have so many great leaders from all across the league who have won and we got Bobby Wagner in there. You know what I mean? I asked a hall of fame or so like, you know, being able to have kind of guys like that that you can lean on that can sometimes take over that leadership role where it doesn't fall on one person. I think it's extremely refreshing and knowing that everybody's on the same page and the message is the same allows you to go out there with confidence and always expect to let you. Teri, you seem to spend many of your off seasons learning about things beyond football

34:21how you do it in this whole season so far to how these are increasing your knowledge of the world around you. That's a good question. Play a lot of golf. That day just keeps my competitive juices flowing. Planning the wedding. That's going well. And I mean, I've just been grinding like, honestly, you know, I mean, I've been hungry this all season. I started working out, you know, pretty early and you start to see guys like coming back and it's just fun to like to be here and compete and feel like everybody's on the same page, you know what I mean? And so for me, I'm a grind every off season, but just this one just feels like it's the start of something, you know, new and special and the foundation of is extremely important to be a part of that, to have a hand in that, you know, it's an honor, you know, and I put a lot of expectation on myself to come out here and be the guy that I know I'm capable

35:23of and also like taking the next step and being somebody that our quarterbacks that can trust and believe in. So this all season was pretty simple for me. It was just really about, you know, working and grinding and getting better. He talked about Jayden before. If anything so far, I know we haven't seen everything, but in terms of his arm strength, the throws, he's making anything surprising so far about the types of his ability in that regard. Definitely. I think after the second or third crosser that he threw, I started telling the receivers, like, hey, you got to get your head around, you know what I mean? Because again, each quarterback throws the ball, definitely sees the field differently. So sometimes on crossers, a lot of quarterbacks may like to see you cross the ball and get into that open zone over there if it's man flat and off. They like to see you get open. For him, he has a really good anticipation over the middle of the field where he can make those throws and give you a chance to catch and run. And he's really accountable too. Like, we had to play today where he felt like he missed me and, you know, it's not a big deal at all. You know what I mean?

36:24Him and I could talk to those things and there's been a play that I've talked to him about. I could do a better job. But again, like that open former communication from a rookie, I think is very rare. And I think it speaks to the confidence he knows who he is, but he's also not afraid to say when he's wrong and he knows he needs room to improve. But his touch on the deep balls is amazing. You know, I love getting extra reps after practice with him. We're just catching the top end of a deep ball. As big for me, you know, I mean, I get to track the ball over my shoulder and as big for him to be able to get used to dropping the ball in the bucket. But he just naturally has an ability to throw the ball. He sees the windows really well. And now he's just, you know, continue to get adjusted to the speed in the past rush. I think he's these reps that he's getting are unbelievable during 11 on 11 because he's getting to feel pain and all in and DA and Cleveland Farrow. Like we got some dogs up there who are going to come after him, you know what I mean? And we got some great guys up front who are going to protect them. And so these reps I feel like are even better than just seven on seven. Seven on seven, I think he could do it in the sleep to be fair.

37:24Like he throws the ball really well. But when you get this 11 on 11, two minute drill, you're putting them in game like situations. I'm looking at him in his eye. I'm like, we play a real ball now. Like we, we, we plan. You know what I mean? And you just see no, no anxiousness in his game and his demeanor, which is extremely exciting. And then, you know, he's extremely lighthearted and he's always smiling. So he's joking with lime and D line. He's just cool with everybody. And like I said, like for a rookie quarterback to come in like that where guys are gravitating to him and he's not afraid to be who he is. That's dope. I think he has a bright future for himself. Last one. The tough losses, the tough seasons can weigh on a player. Sure. You're entering the prime of your career. J.A. kind of mentioned it last year. All he cares about is winning. He wants to win now. Is there a sense of urgency? You obviously always want to win. But knowing that, you know, you're getting to the prime of your career. Like you want to win now. Yeah, I think that's a fair question. I think, you know, you start to evaluate when you, I mean, year six and you know how fast it goes.

38:25I try not to put the cart before the horse. We're looking too far ahead by the same time. You do want to win. You want to be a part of a winning culture and have a chance to win the Super Bowl and the playoffs and all those things. Like that's why we do this personally. And I'm just excited with being a part of an organization in the environment where now like everybody's on the same page in the message is uniform and it speaks from the top down. And it reflects the guys that they're bringing in, you know, all the guys that they brought in are guys who are hungry, who are competitors, who not only fighting for spots, but are going to help us win games. And when you're around environment like that, like that, that makes you excited, makes you hopeful. And you know, you don't know how that's going to turn out until we start playing games. But the foundation is extremely important. And I think this all season, we've really done a great job of building that. They have. And when a coach, Quinn guy here building with this team. So I feel like we're going to be going into this off season really knowing what we all

39:28got to do individually to become ready for camp, but the message is clear to come back to camp ready to compete and be ready to win. Thanks, Darry. Appreciate you guys. Yeah, we should have appreciate that. One of the funniest guys on the team right now is the time to look at everything and analyze everything. It was just like, man, we just need to keep everything simple and make everything and just about us. And I feel like we're making everything about them. We can dictate what they do. And I think that was the mindset. Did it make Letterman wrong? Yeah. JT, I know you get to watch a little bit of video of Caleb and Nathan and Jordan. What stands out about that group from your vantage point? Oh, they're respected. They're relentless, man. I mean, Nathan, Caleb and everybody in that BIA core, yes, they can cover.

40:30But when it's time to stop the round, they'll come down 12 yards out. However far off the line of scrimmage they're coming, though the nose in there and I respect them for that because there's going to be times where we need them to make them tackles. They're displaying it this whole season. How critical are they in a game of this magnitude? Obviously, everybody's critical. But you're going to mean that the last line of the fence, but sometimes the last line of the fence is in the middle of it. They play a huge role. Like you said, it takes everybody from the front four. It's like a check reaction. The front four don't do their job. You know, falls, you know, the back end. So we off to work as a collective unit. And I think there's a reason that there's 11 of us out there. And you know, it's crazy. If one person is doing their job, then you know, something can go wrong. But if we just all continue to stay, communication with one another, continue to just lay each other and we have each other's backs and just trust one another. And man, I think that that performance is going to be off the charts. Well, for the right, Kelly and Stitz, WSYF. QT, how would you describe the mentality of the defense right now, getting this opportunity for a rematch in the world?

41:31Yeah, hungry and thankful. I mean, we know how the last time when we had a chip on our shoulder. I mean, we were riding high before that game and we took that loss and we came back and had to make a couple changes. But I think we understand what everything's at stake right now, just fighting to where another house stage jersey for the next game. That's what's on stake. And just to be able to represent this state and this team. I mean, we understand what's on the line and we're just hungry and blessed that we get this opportunity to play in the Rose Bowl. Right behind your Adam King, WBNS. What do you remember most about walking off the field in Eugene? What was kind of going on in your mind in that moment? I mean, there was, I don't think anybody imagined it, imagined us losing. I didn't, that's for sure. I think after that it was kind of head deep. I understand it that man, we still, there's still a lot of ball left to be played. I mean, you can let it sting for a little bit, but if you let it carry over too long then

42:33there goes your whole season by. I think we did a great job of just understanding, coming together in this room right here. Not being afraid of display or hold accountability for one another. And as that happened, we came back, we grouped and we're just going right now. And I'm just blessed for those specific moments, you know, losing. I mean, no one wants to lose, but the testimonies and the things you're taught within those little situations speaks of all of you. It's after all, right? Letterman, right? Jay, what did you see from Kenya? The last couple of weeks, was there like a push from him and then there were many conversations with him and he could see like he's playing in this best form of fantasy. Yeah, I mean, that's my boy, he's in the R2X club too, but, you know, Kiyada, I mean, every time his numbers call, he goes out there and makes the most of it, no matter where we are in the game. When he goes out there, he's just hungry.

43:33He wants to go make plays and, you know, we see it in practice, so it's not surprising to us. Bill, we're been away from this. This back. Jay was obviously very elusive and he's not very tall. How important it could be to just kind of stay in your past rush lanes and neglect a lot of balls and kind of make a difference that way? Yeah, I think it just comes out being disciplined. No one who you're playing against, like you said, he's surely very elusive. I mean, he can, he is making throws. I mean, he get out the pike, he can do everything. So I think for us, we just have to discipline and just continue to just meet with Coach Jay, me with the coach's nose and understand how we can just eliminate that. One question about you and Jay. I mean, your personality seems to be a little different. You're more on the quiet side. He's not. Yeah. How about you play together four years, both five store guys, kind of describe your relationship with him, friendship with him, and just kind of how you cope with each other? Man, that's my brother. Like he said, we're different, but very alike.

44:36I think outside, like you said, he's louder, I'm quiet, but once we're on that field, we're like the same person. We'll do anything for this team. We'll die for our players and we'll give everything we got. Room together for four years, correct? Yeah, fall camps. Every room. Yeah, sometimes go over there. So go over there. So yeah. There's a neat one who's the messy one. We have our share of days when I'm neat. He's neat. Or we might both be messy, but we do a good job. Yeah, I'd probably say I'm a better coach than Jack though. Tony Gurgman, like I held. When you're playing a team for the second time, and that was almost a season to go by now, how much of a square one with the scouting and preparation, or how much do you take from that game? How much do you avoid taking so that you don't have any creative signals to what you're going up against offense on the offense line? I say it's pretty 50-50. I mean, that game, like you said, it was a while ago, but at the same time, they elevated as a team, so did we.

45:36So we understand that they made some changes for sure. There's a certain tendency we can take back from that game, but we also understand that they went on a little run after that, and we can see that they elevated as offense. So we just got to continue to watch those games, dissect other games and just continue to see what stands out and what they changed from the past game. We got a couple calls on Zoom that will wrap up with, first we have Nick Hamilton from Nightcast Media. Nick? I was wanting to ask you basically about the synergy of this defense and how you guys were able to not only celebrate the triumphs, but get through the adversity to be able to be this top-notch defense that you are in college football today. Here, you need to be patient one more time. Yeah, no problem. I want to ask you about the synergy you are able to develop over the course of the season, obviously celebrating the triumphs, but also getting through the adversities to where you

46:36are all the top-notch defense that you are today. Yeah, I mean, like you said, we went through a lot of trials to trials, but there's a lot of things we can take away from all the wins and losses. And from those wins, we understood that hey, we can be the best defensive country. And from those losses, we understand that there's still things that need to be fixed. And I think when you take all that in at once, that comes out to the common goal or the common target, which is you can, there's always learning points everywhere. And depending how we dissect those games or how we just continue to come as one and elevate, we continue to just collect all those learning points and just continue to grow from them. And one final question, Joey Coppin, Columbus Dispatch. Joey? JT, what have you guys done better in the Tennessee game and just laden this season, you think about turning some of the pressures that you've got on the quarterbacks and the sacks and getting home in some of those situations? Yeah, I think it was more just understanding

47:41the defense as a whole, understanding everybody's job. I think as the season went on, we had to understand that we have to know what's going on in the backhand. We have to know what's going on in the linebacker crew to understand what plays we have room of freedom. And I think once we understood that and got a better understanding of everybody's job, I mean, it showed this play because everybody knows we each other's doing. It's not like the linebackers know what they're doing. The corners and B.I., they know only their job. I think we all know each other's job and we continue to ask each other questions on, if they're blitzing how they can get to the quarterback and if I'm dropping playing quarterbacks, I can ask Cody on how to open field tackle. So we just kind of lean on each other's understanding because like I said, DeZoe knows how to play corner-bedded and I know how to play corner. So he has more wisdom at that position than I do. JT, thank you very much. I know when I came, I had a little extra energy, but you know, when you come to a place like this, from our owner to coach Reed,

48:45Brett Veech, Spags, I mean, you know, Nags and Coach Tullum, I mean, it's an unbelievable environment and the record speaks for itself. So when you come here, you know, maybe it's a breath of fresh air from where you've been, I don't know. And it's an opportunity with a guy like Pat, my homes as you quarterback and Spags as you defensive coordinate, whatever it may be. And so I think he's excited to have an opportunity to play with the guy like Chris Jones in the room, Mike Dana, who is his college teammate and just a room that we have and obviously playing for Coach Bags. You mentioned a couple of times, Chris Jones, you know, a problem for everyone who's been trying to have to try to block him. He maybe doesn't have all the sacks that he might want to have. Would you grade him out if you're internal grading? How good has he been for you guys this year? Oh, he's been, he's been as disruptive as he's ever been. I mean, he's not only playing the pass really well, but he's really physical inside in the run game and thinking up to sometimes

49:45three blockers. But he's really having a fantastic year. I'm impressed with even with the depth behind Chris inside of the Terpson Mike Pennell in that group. Oh, I mean, that whole group, when you look at Turk where he's come from, I mean, he's having a he's doing a great job. Mike Pennell, Derek Nadi, Marlin, who we got from Philadelphia and we have a really deep group and the guys are really working hard and you know, like in Coach Bags, once guys rolling and when the guys are in there, they're starters. And I've been impressed with the way the guys have been playing. Jim, then we'll do a couple more. Jim, how much of the week is about you and Chris discussing where he might move at certain matchups to maybe get a one-on-one? And I guess what's it like for you to watch him go through the game and sort of try to find his one-on-one's if he's switching positions right before, you know, the ball is mad essentially. You know, there are certain things like I said, the chess match and Coach Bags does a great job, you know, you know,

50:46well, you want to put him, what you want to do. This is where we can put him. So we decide all that, but truly an opportunity, he has an opportunity to win on certain plays of five spots on the line of Scrimmage and there are certain ones where he's delegated to a spot on the line of Scrimmage. So, I mean, obviously, that's decided as you should go through the week, see the opponent that you're playing and maybe who would try to exploit, but it's just, it's a weekly deal. Who does that remind you most of whether it's someone you've coached really seeing your career or just watching other guys throughout the league who have that amount of flexibility, freedom and obviously some responsibility to it. Well, when you look at it, so within this game and Coach Bags does, like I said, a great job with that and Chris is good at defensive player. I know I'm being biased in the league, but that I've coached. I've coached some good ones and he has that unique ability to go outside and be to tackle or stay inside and be to guard. Not many can do. They have some ends that can do

51:47that, but not many true defensive tackles can go outside and be to an offensive tackle. What's the, what's your role in the timeline? We're going to make it an in season trade, as far as when Brett made, bring up a name and talk to you and you can kind of contribute. No, I think when you look at it and not necessarily Josh, but other guys, but you might have done them in the past, you might have did them in the off season as you're attacking free agencies. So, you have a familiar, familiar, with the player, but Brett does a great job. He'll go to, if he's looking at a guy who coached Spags or the position coach and get your opinion, he does a great job of that. Thanks, coach. Appreciate it. Thank you. Breaking free, you're turning around and you saw them coming? Well, no. The first 40, I don't like, oh, yeah, bye-bye. Because I was putting away from him and then after that, I was like, oh, shit, I got heavy. So, I was like, alright, let me just cover the ball. I got time for it.

52:56I got Justin's back. A quarterback especially. Right? A quarterback is great. He can't be Superman, you know, that's what the team is for. And that's what they brought me here for, to have his back. Next week, I bet you feel better with that. We kept hearing this is going to be Jim, I was going to run the ball. I was going to run the ball. I really have it more, especially in the second half. Because you feel them stop in the offensive game and don't even know what's going to work in the first half. Oh, yes. I always took with it. Always believe in, always fight. I knew we were going to crack some, you know, hard. I knew we were going to crack some lines. I need you to offensive lines going to fight. I want to fight with them. I'm going to have that back. And you saw that. Jake, after everything, how did that feel? After everything, how did that feel to have their performance out there for your first team or game with the chargers? Hey, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, look, get him on camera, get him on camera. But just looking at my, that's how you eat, how you eat right now. It felt good though. It felt really good. But now I'm, don't get you ready for next week.

53:59The type of guy who will have a good game, go back to the draw board and let's get better. But, you know, I think this guy is still put, plays the key and, you know, went in the ball game. But, you know, I think you, he's seen every coverage. It's not like you're going to fold that much. But, you know, you've got to have good disguise, good communication, you know, good execution. In terms of their history, you like look back and what they did together at Green Bay and look at that film and things like that. Yeah, you know, I think Aaron's always done a good job of putting the ball organ to go. And, you know, there's routes that Devante likes, his outs, back sort of fades. You know, that's nothing I can really need to worry about. But, I think just the relationship there and how they want to play and how they want to, you know, dominate a game, you know, you got to be ready for that. In terms of facing Aaron, it's fairly similar to what you guys have revealed with the black hole. And then it's a better way to get rid of the ball quickly and it's great down the defense.

55:01And it's not going to kind of allow it all any easier. You know, they're different in some approaches, but, you know, like you said, work, you know, they do spread the ball around and he's able to get it out quick. So, that relies on our secondary to be, you know, pretty close in coverage and make sure we mix it up. You can't just be into a rhythm where he knows where to go, you know, playing and playing out. But, you know, we'll see what we can do. Can we sing Queens numbers, bro? Week to week? What's a mild death? How do you feel like it's kind of settling into the role of this defense? You know, I think he's just getting more and more comfortable with how we play. You know, there's different styles of football. And, you know, we didn't play that much the preseason altogether, but I think he's more comfortable and more confident. Hopefully that's not just the ceiling. I think he can continue to keep growing and the best suggest to come. Can you guys have talked a lot about communication?

56:02Is that more of a concern or more of a point of emphasis when you're playing a better more back like Aaron Rogers is knowing for getting those replays and catching the events on balance? You know, I think communication, you can't have those breakdowns, especially on the back and, you know, you could hide it up front to extend and you can just move to it, but on the back and it definitely stresses a lot of people. Sometimes, you know, that's our own going, trying to do too much or, you know, but we have to execute at high level or, you know, who's going to have a lot of success. You know, one thing Aaron's always been good at is substitution, taking advantage of that as well. So, you know, for some of the guys, we've got to make sure we run off the field. We're ready to have 11 guys on there. You have your own super bowl winning, bettering quarterback in consideration of play this week, where you're not something potentially getting rust back for this one for something I football against Rogers. Well, you know, I just think we got to support both of those guys, Justin and Russ.

57:02You know, Justin's had a hell of a start. I don't know who's starting. You know, I'm not going to pretend to tell you I know, but, you know, on that side of the ball, I'm really worried about it because it doesn't change what we have to do. We've got to make sure we take care of our business and, you know, make sure we get them to ball back as much as possible. Pretty unique situation in the frail and all in the book. The change of pace back is actually maybe the bigger, more than the physical guy. What does that do? You have to deal with the guy with grease hall and then he wears you down. The next guy is you could be the biggest one. Yeah, you know, I think, I think when you have two running backs, it allows everybody to stay fresh. And it really stresses the defense. Look at back in the green bag when they had their two monsters. You know, even here when we have Naju and we got Jaylin, and a little bit of Quakero Patterson, I think, you know, running back by committee, committee really stresses the defense. What they're doing up there is just, you know, they're toting the rock as a boy. You look at that Buffalo game, they had a lot of rushing yards and, you know,

58:04it's really allowing their office to flourish. All the Wisconsin guys have any intel on him? I'm sorry to hear what Wisconsin. You know, I ask them see if they got anything, but they haven't mixed anything. When you look at that personnel, it seems like this is a team that's super proud of you, and you're spoon with one, but it has a lot of good players. When you see an office like that, what do you make of that, do you, like how do you kind of go into a game knowing that, he thinks it's much better than a record. You know, I think between good and great is a very fair line, and they're just into the way from it. So we have to be ready for it all. We have to make sure that we actually get a high level to prevent that, but, you know, it's no shortage of talent. They have plenty of talent on there, and, you know, they're looking to build it to all of them. We do in Vegas after the game, how special the performance that was, like, you jave it after watching the film, you guys have been more of an appreciation for what he did, or you guys have fun watching other functions as follows out.

59:06No, we expect them. You know, we practice them, we get them we go, and, you know, I think, we get to see, you know, how the sausage is made, and, you know, TJ's work ethic explains it all, and I think, when he does it on Sundays, we've just come to appreciate it, and it's wonderful. I'm one kind of guy who, this first time, felt caring. Sorry. Cameron, why do you and TJ work so well and compliment his captives? I don't know. I think, you know, we've been around each other a lot. You know, he was on my side, then he left. I don't know what that's about, but, you know, good communication between ourselves, and, you know, what we expect out of the group, and we're not afraid to challenge each other. And, you know, I think when we have that in the room, it allows us to be better.

1:00:08What is your own sprouted to camp? Oh, you know, I think experience, you know, leadership and professional. I think, you know, Russ is a professional, knows how to work, knows how to prepare. It's a lot of your other guys to step on the game. But as far as, you might talk about the way you guys were able to finish, or if you're dead about the only running game, be able to finish, is that something you can go off of it? What did you see seeing, watching film, maybe, that even look better than what you saw in the books on that? Yeah, man. I saw all of 11 in this, Dick John Dick outblocks, and working down fill for blocks too, like Pat had that one that's probably loose. But things like that, like I said in the press conference, I'm after the game, is that's what makes the big plays, the big runs that people see, that we want to, is just the extra block that happens down fill. You know, I mean, getting through the line is just one thing, but getting back to the second level and helping out with blocks too, that's what springs the big plays all across the league, and that's what we're trying to focus on that. How's your what's the Katie Karing that over building on that? Practice, you know, I mean, in practice finishing blocks,

1:01:10and you got guys finishing plays and straining all the way through the play. And, you know, just because it may look like the plays over with, you still should get on blocks, man, because anything could happen. You know, I mean, it's people could break more tackles, and you know, I mean, think to happen. So just really straining and working down fill for blocks. As a hobby, what do you feel with having less on the field, in the case of home starts? We got to actually get the game plan. I mean, like, you guys focus so much on one player, as if like, he's getting like, it's all 11 of us. You guys will worry about the quarterback, but I'm worried about all 11, the quarterback and the line, and the receivers and the runner back. You know, I mean, so, you know, Russ being out there, I mean, he got to do the same thing that Justin had been doing. Justin had been doing a great job for us. This is the best start I think I had throughout my years being here. So, you know, I saw some comments that Justin said about him being doing the best that he can. But, you know, I think that he did the best he possibly can, I think he did a really good job, and he shouldn't. Well, I know what he was trying to do, but, you know, just me saying publicly that we're all proud of him.

1:02:11I mean, like, you know, we don't be so hard on yourself. We got you back. I got you back. But, you know, I think that this all 11 of us got to pitch in and being there, because we need both of them, for sure. So, yeah. How's Ryan McCullough? He's been on the sweet. I'm sorry, what do you think? I'm sorry. Ryan McCullough, what's he been like this week? I have no idea what to say. Yeah, he's been good. You know, he has a very, very smart. So, you know, his IQ of the games is very big. So, we wasn't really, you know, tripping off of that, because, you know, his experience, just knowing the IQ of the games, making calls, doing things like that, the protection slides, and whatnot, that other people don't see. I think that he does a good job of that. So, you know, we're all excited for him too. Like I said, it's the next man up mentality. You know, we all got to be ready for what's going to, for, you know, next man to be up. How have you, and Pat Barnett, grown its teammates and friends, and passed you and your students together? Pat? That's the home, man. Pat, me and Pat came in together. That's why I was extremely excited for him to get it.

1:03:12That extension, because he was telling me all, you know, all throughout the process, how it was going, and stuff like that. So, you know, me seeing Pat, you know, get that extension is kind of like, you know, in a way, it's like, I got that extension, because Pat is like my brother. So, you know, see him, see him happy, and see him smiling, and see him providing for his family is always a good thing. So, me and Pat has been, we've been locked in everything we got here. So, you know, we joke around a lot and do things. Again, I think that you do have some understanding and awareness of the offense, and maybe it's not the first time you hear about the formations, but to be able to go and apply that to the field. I mean, that takes a lot of work. So, there is a slight advantage. There's just how much use around the program. But I'm not sure if, you know, in the meeting room or on the field, or which one affects more ultimately, you know, we're judged based on what we do on the field, and our goal is to go out there and execute it. How do you guys show that they have the toughest guys on the team when they get your touch? Yeah. We talk about it all the time. So, if we want to show where the toughest guys on the team, you know, we can do that by showing where the hardest working guys on the team. We can show that we are the mentally toughest guys on the team.

1:04:15We can make sure that we don't ever get too high or too low, and we, you know, play with passion and emotion, without letting that emotion and passion play with us and affect us. And, you know, we talk a lot in the quarterback room about moving on to the next most important thing. So, if I have, you know, a play where, you know, maybe I made the wrong read or screwed something up, you know, I've got, you know, about a half a second, right, to kind of be bummed out about it, right? But I've got to learn from it, and I've got to move on to the next most important thing, because so many guys let that first play affect the next play. So, we're really working to continue to grow from that. But as far as, you know, showing that we're tough, I even sell our guys that, hey, if I'm, I don't know, lost in Sarabot, and I'm watching film, and I see in the back of that film that Julian is up, or Tavy in his up, but Lincoln and the opposite of Julian and Tavy and are standing in the back doing a mental rep, like that gives me confidence if I'm Austin, that those guys, one understand what they're doing,

1:05:15and two are committed to get better, right? And are going to be in position to be tough, when we need them to be tough. So, like little things like that, or something that we're constantly working on to show that we're being in that position. What have you seen from Lincoln in your first year working with him? Tell me how he's been able to do it. Yeah, you know, I've definitely seen a lot of growth from getting in here in June last year, and to what we're seeing about now, you know, just a full year of understanding the offense, a full year of getting a feel for what we're trying to do, and what we're trying to accomplish. And, you know, just the, just my new details about where my eyes need to be, how I can tie my feet in with my eyes, how I can make sure that, you know, I'm not just throwing the ball to the right receiver, because that's what my red dictated, but I'm also throwing it at the right time, and I'm, you know, I have accuracy within that accuracy that I just displayed by putting it on the right shoulder, right, or the right, you know, to offset our receiver and throw them away from a defender, or whatever that may look like. So that's what I'm excited, because we're starting to see more and more of that from Lincoln, as we've getting into, you know, two practices,

1:06:17and we've only had two practices, but, you know, just that growth that I don't think is a growth that happened over two practices, growth that happened from the time we got here, and I got here in June through right now, and that's what's exciting. He's had now three quarterback coaches in three years, and three, like, all there's in three years, can that be like an advantage for him, like, understanding different concepts, and different reads, having to see things through different languages, because he's had so many different voices on his head, or how do you kind of gauge that? Yeah, I mean, he's had different quarterback coaches, but the reality is it's been the same tasking. It's been the same system. So, it's not like we changed the way we read a play, based on who the quarterback coach was before. We made mistakes, like tweaks, or adjustments, or, you know, had a new concept in her too. But I think what Lincoln can get from having those three different quarterback coaches is maybe just three different, slightly different perspectives, where the message is still the same.

1:07:18So maybe it's just a slightly different delivery of the same message, and I think that can definitely be a advantage, because he still knows, you know, on this concept, this is who my read is, but maybe he heard it a different way over the last three years, and I guess could be an advantage. Is it going to be a little bit more fun? If you are, he's quarterbacks, and they're supposed to be the toughest guy, the first guy to do the last guy to leave, but they're all trying to do that. How do you then separate yourself as well as one of those guys, given they're all trying to strive to do the same things, Coach Dei's prediction? Yeah, you know, I think the ultimately right is, can I sustain it? Can I be the guy that does it the most consistently? I think every single one of them, I know every single one of them, so I'm sorry, I quote by Coach Dei, which, you know, it's pretty awesome. It's so real. It's who we have to be. We've got to be the toughest guys in the building. We've got to be the hardest working guys in the building. So it's easy to go ahead and, you know, do that and be that guy.

1:08:18You know, the next day after seeing that quote, can I continue to be that guy when we're in practice, 11 of spring ball, or we're in summer, and we're going through workouts with Coach Mick, and it's June 17th, you know, can I be that guy with that consistency, all the way up through Fall Camp, it into moving on into next year? And I think that, you know, anyone can do something just once, you know, but can I be the guy that can do it with consistency? And if you look at anyone that's something great, it's been because of their consistency. What do you think being... The way it all betrays. Where does, can't E.B. be the quarterback at Ohio State fit in, the kind of magnitude of, is he able to handle that position? What does that fit into your evaluation? Yeah, I think, you know, all these guys were... A lot of that was done in the recruitment process. I'm confident that all three of them can be the guy I don't want to say. I think that, you know, those guys have already kind of checked that box. So, you know, now it's just a matter of who goes out as an InstaJop. And again, we are so far away from that point. But, you know, when we're recruiting a guy,

1:09:20we try to figure out that stuff out. We're gathering as much data as we possibly can to learn about the person, and to understand their mental makeup, and to make sure that they're fit. It's pretty cool up in the quarterback room. We've got pictures of all the great Ohio State quarterbacks up on the wall. And, you know, you go through and take a look at those guys. You know, it's just pretty neat. But above all, you can talk about some of the different guys' mental makeup. And what made them different. And so, how do we find those guys that bring them in and recruiting? And so, we get to the point like we are now, where you feel really confident about all three of those guys. That they are mentally tough enough, and can be at that point, that they can't be that guy. What do you think they learned the most from Will? And the job he did last year overall? You know, close to that. Yeah, I mean, where do I start? You know, Will, when it came to intangibles, was, you know, I haven't been, I can't say I've been doing this for 35 years or anything crazy like that. But was by far the best I've ever seen to it. And just as far as what he did the best, you know,

1:10:23I think it just having a such a complete understanding of the offense. You know, from the run game to the past game to the protections, just understanding, you know, the ins and outs and the little details. And everybody's job and where, you know, certain concepts or protections or play styles were weak and how to adjust them if we were going to see something that made us weak there. You know, and having that total command, because I think, you know, a big part of trust is showing that, you know, I'm competent. And I understand. And so, Will built that trust in his teammates by showing that, you know, he was extremely competent. You know, he understood everything and all the ins and outs. And he could tell everybody on the field what to do. And from there, then he built it, you know, grabbed on and grabbed the trust of all of his teammates. And then he could start to lead. So, you know, the biggest thing, it's tough to say. But I think that everything that he did was kind of built off his total understanding

1:11:24of what we were trying to do offensively. Okay, Billy, thank you very much. Thanks guys. Appreciate it. Yeah, excited to meet you. Yeah, I mean, just, just, yeah, just, you, you, you, you, in a room that seems to have on three, you kind of are, with different body types as of one. I mean, how do you fit in this team? Well, I fit in well, but I think this is a really great thing. I can, I can, I think it's really a great thing. Yeah. I think it's like the one that I was the one that I think, I just want to, and I think that it's like the one that I think it's like the one that I've been. I'm trying to do my gaming. I mean, obviously, they're not from the teams that you guys go against or run driven. I mean, just how much do you look forward to that opportunity to get in there and being that, you know, that, that rough stuff? It's a great opportunity. I'm putting the work really, really good in the work. I feel like Saturday is just like just showing the world, but they're awesome. The boys are awesome. That's what I'm really counting for. That's what I'm really counting for. I really come across. I'm just thinking different. How different you are. I was, I was a pure and spring practice.

1:12:26And maybe called practice last year. And it's not even like 50 years, but I, we've talked to players that like some of my bodies, they're gonna score. I, you know, the game was slowed down. I mean, where are you going to play my career? And you're gonna play that. I'm gonna like, I'm going to game more, uh, transfer. I was just in high school last year, going in the fall game. So I just do it. But now I'm learning the game and I know the standards I gotta do. And I'm just doing my job. That's what Coach Johnson was really being on. What did you take out of last season? You mentioned coming straight out of high school. Don't play a ton. How much, how much did you take away? What kind of things did you learn from freshness? I'll say, it was tough, you know, but I'm wondering from guys like Mike Hall, Tom Hamilton, Tyler Lee, these guys are pro at guys. So I'm just trying to get, I'm gonna ask many questions I have for them. And uh, just really just getting better. Just everyday. Thank you. We're so grateful, man. Uh, full back. I like the score. So when you got the opportunity to become, how much, how much, how much

1:13:28the potential to be added that year. Uh, no petition, no petition. Um, I just wanted to do my job. I'm a team player. So whenever I gotta be from my team, I'm going to. When did you get out of the team for a great fight? Last couple days, I got a couple of, I got a few of the people that have been in the team. Obviously, I should say to you, I think it's just surprising what you do. You just feel like a great partner. No, this is not surprising to me. I've been putting in the work. I'm working my whole life, but I feel like coach Nick, I just, this all season, it's really big for me. Uh, I like being on it. You see the results. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. You see, I know. You see, you got stuff, another panel or two. Right.

1:14:30That's a good motivation. Um, I want to say a photo of it, but uh, I'm here for a reason. Uh, God, I got me here for a reason. So, whatever happens, you know, it happens. I love the year. I just know that's be great. That's a lot of times like to play early in the year, when it comes to that opportunity. So I imagine it or something. I should find a shoulder, but it's not a big issue. It's better here. I'm sure people here are planning to go. Really, yeah, I got a big chip on my shoulder. You know, I'll take nobody's for granted. I know, because we've got to play every play like your last play. So that's how to do it. I'm just looking motivated. Some X-E's are coming up 17 games. Somebody got to step up. And they leading on the young guys like me and Jason. He wrote, it's time for us to step up. Can we see your full back in the spring game? Can we get a touchdown in the spring game? I don't know. We ain't really meant to talk about it, but I think during the season, we got to save it.

1:15:30We got to see it. I can't wait to see it. I want to see the season. I just got to see it. Can't let the opposing teams know when we got the green. How did you think that went, sir? In the competition? Yeah, I'm looking forward to the full back. It was awesome, man. It just felt like high school days. I'm excited. I'm blocking for guys like Kushan, Train, Darling. I mean, it's going to open it. Do you have to fight with Kaden for that role? Because he was just talking about it, too. So clearly, is it good work? We share a couple of plays. But whatever it is for my team, I'm going to do it. So you're getting to do it or I do it. I think it's going to be a good thing for us. We'll see our page of the line when you're going. D-L-O-L that gives you the best flu. We had the best matchup. I like going against Darling and Fry. I feel like, these are pro guys. So I'm going to get to the best. You're at the Ohio State. So every day, you're going to compete with the best.

1:16:31So you got to breathe. Then you mentioned, I was 17 games when that's just got to be more depth inside. Set competition like when you talked about hero games. What's that competition like? I was really competitive. I'm trying to be them to the ball. I feel like all of us, we just work in getting better. We know what's upstate this year. We're trying to be the top of Northland in the last four championships. That's the only thing we haven't mind. But we just want to be spring. We've been taught that first to get ready for the season. How have Thailand and the state of the standard? Those are events. I'm glad they came back. They saw me being, you know, little things. Like the little things I'm working on. Like technique wise, he's my game. So it's really good for them to come back. Kind of like the logistics. Thank you very much. Coach, like I said, you know, any team that drast me, you know, I'm going to be excited. It's going to be a blessing. And I can't wait. Yeah, I mean, I'm excited about it. You know, people think that I'm just going to stay in Ohio my whole life.

1:17:31But, you know, wherever I go, I'm going to be happy. So if I leave the state of Ohio great. Yeah, Edger can be, you know, as good as anybody else in the country, you know, if he wants to be with his size and his speed and his athletic ability, how strong he is, too, he could be, he could be the best guy in the country's position. So I think you guys will see him take a big leap going into a sophomore year and be a really productive player already. Yeah, I'd say what's next is, you know, like I said, Edrick, you know, you got Kate McDonald, Kate and Curry, Kenyatta Jackson. I mean, those four guys right there are going to fill players too. So I'm excited to see what they're going to do, you know, with their first year all as a group together playing. Sky's the limit for those guys too. You know, I know Coach Johnson's going to get those guys right.

1:18:32I look forward to having them have them all having a great season. Yeah, I like to watch a handful of guys, you know, coach Johnson's always bringing stuff in and chopping it up for us from the pro level. So I watch a lot of TJ Watt, a lot of Miles Garrett, you know, Nick Bosa, all those guys, Max Crosby, you know, all the guys are just the best of what they do right now. So just taking a mixture of things from all those guys, you know, trying to emulate in your game. Say that again. Yeah, no, I think I'll bring a toughness and, you know, that competitive drive, you know, and leadership. So what ever team drafts, we're going to get one of the hardest workers in his draft. And that's really whom I'm about. The title is raised, you know, going in the locker room and, and just putting your head down and bust in your ass every day. Yeah, a lot of good bounces. No, but I just, you know, get into the side of the ball and just scoop it up, make sure your feet out of the way. And then just run into the end zone, doing the rest.

1:19:38Say that again. Yeah, I have. I have met with the Giants. It was good. It was really good, you know, table and those guys do a really good job. So, you know, they're a great team and they've had really successful seasons and, you know, they're going to have great season in the future too. So it was good, you know. I really like their meeting as well. So I was thinking, you know, I'm going to be all right. I know we're in the opposite of the conversations like we're out of the side, you know, we're going to run it back. Yeah, the all season with the conversations were about, you know, one of the national championship and one of the games on defense side of the ball and being the best defense in the country. You know, nothing else. And, you know, it's cool looking back on it now and realizing what we did, you know, really this time of the year, last year, all coming back and deciding to run it back and then being able to be the best defense in the country and one of the national championship, you know, it's just such a blessing from God to be able to do those things and do with that group. It's because of the CFP. It's seen like the most physical team won the whole same every game. Right. What was it about physical calories, especially among the guys on

1:20:39line, the real flying games in the game? I wouldn't feel like that. Yeah, I mean, the games won up front. Every game is one of the, in the trenches, you know, whether the team does for 400 yards or not, you know, can't do the job that the offense align in defense the same way. So, you know, I mean, going in every game, we're always trying to be the most physical team. It's something we preach going into every year and every game. Tyleek and Ty Hamilton lead it off and do a great job in the middle. And then, you know, me and JT, hold down the edges and the guys behind us flying up, making plays, you know, like guys like Lathen Ransom coming up in the hole and knocking guys out on the run and, you know, Cody and Sonny being all over the place too. So, playing physical and playing fast and violence like RMO, at Ohio State. I think we got a lot of similarities and we got some differences. And I think that, you know, JT is a hell of a player and it's been so much fun playing alongside him for four years.

1:21:40And we were just talking about last night. It's going to be weird lining up and not being across from each other for the first time since high school. So, you know, I'm going to let the scouts do the comparisons, but, you know, I'm just happy for him and I'm so excited to see where he's going to go too. You know, he's a phenomenal player and it's, you know, always rooting and praying for him, it was my brother. Yeah, I'm all of you been able to have formal meetings with so far this week? Yeah, I am full, guys. And they've all been good too. They've all been good meetings and I get a lot of good feedback and learn about some stuff too at the next level. So, I'm just taking this process one step at a time and I'm excited about it. Say that again. My best trait. That's a good question. Probably, uh, probably toughness or physicality. Most underrated part of my game. Probably my past rushing. I think that it's, I think at the end of the season I was able to prove myself as a past rusher. More than I was in the beginning of the season. And, uh, but still I think that, you know, I still have so much left to prove,

1:22:42because I know I can be a great past rusher in this league. I know I can get out to the quarterback with the best of them in this league. So, just continue to work on anything I can to be better at that. I mean, not too much, you know, maybe a couple people here and there. Uh, just football fans, you know, we, we met and JT and I had dinner with Will Howard and a couple other guys out there and, you know, we got recognized as a group a couple of times. But other than that, that's about it. What's that? Uh, yeah, I mean, you know, we got punched in the mouth in the year and I was a great opportunity for us to go one of two ways. And we chose the way that was one of the national championships. So, um, really, you know, I was just all about regrouping after that game. And we did that and was able to put our best foot forward and win a national championship. When you were, when you being able to participate in the first 12 team,

1:23:43you constantly up and obviously go on to win it. What are your thoughts on the new format as they continue to think about what the best process to play on this? Yeah, I think it's great. I mean, think about it, you know, the teams that played in the national championship wouldn't even been in the playoffs this year had to not been for the 12 team playoff. So, I think it just goes to show you that like an NFL, you can lose a couple games and the best team might lose three or four games in regular season, but they'll still go out and win the Super Bowl. So, to me, it just feels like it's becoming the NFL playoffs for me. And, you know, across the country, that's how it's going to look for the next few years. I think it's going to be a deep feel for me in a foul because I'm going to pull that away over for me. Yeah, I think that being able to experience that longer season would help me a lot. And I think that it helps you find that routine and really have to stay in it, you know, for the extra month and a half that you're playing games. So, I think that helps a lot. Yeah, I think I'm a lot more prepared. I think that I came back and was able to do the things that I needed to do to prepare myself to come to the next level. And right now, I'm really confident in going to the next level and excited for the opportunity to compete against some of the best players in the world.

1:24:49Say that again, please. Yeah, I haven't met with the Browns, but looking forward to here soon and it'll be exciting. Jack J.T. was talking about Johnson saying that he was a really great job. And despite his effort, I really mean I'm going to be my year as a footballer. Yeah, I mean, Coach Johnson's still at the top of this game. No matter what anyone says or has their opinion on Coach Johnson still, you know, the best defensive line coach in college football. And it's simple, really, as a recruit. Look at all the guys that he's helped produce to come out of Ohio State to go to the next level and all the first rounders and all the players. And he's coached in his time at Ohio State and a Penn State. So it's an easy pitch for me if I was a recruit. But other than that, he cares about you more than just a football player too. He cares about who you are as a person and developing as a good young man as well. So love Coach Johnson. He's still at the top of this game, no matter what people say about his age.

1:25:49So, sonny. Yeah, well, sonny's one of the hardest working kids I've ever been around, you know. Me and his older brother were good friends growing up. So I've got a chance to know Sonny's since he was just a little guy. And seeing him now, you know, the freak of an athlete that he is and the type of man he is, you know, just happy form. And I think going into year two, he's going to take a huge jump playing linebacker. He had a great year this year, obviously, in his first year playing it. And he's a super smart kid, super competitive kid, tough kid. And obviously he's got the traits, you know, at the top 10 picks. So I'm excited to see what he does this year in his second year. And I know it's going to be something great. Yeah, Coach Noel is going to Penn State. I think that he's bringing, you know, that smarts. And obviously now he's done it at the highest level, one in national championship with us. And, you know, helped us get to where we wanted to go. And I know he's going to do the best he can at Penn State, you know.

1:26:51Obviously, I'll still always be rooting for Ohio State, but I definitely root for Coach Noel's and his success. Because he's been a huge part of our journeys and a great guy, a great guy to play for. And, you know, he's always going to be my DC. So I wish him nothing but the best, but that one game every year we're rooting for the Buckeye. So look forward to seeing that match up. You're having your head, your head, your nose got a lot of criticism, especially after the show. Yeah. And if it had been a 14-flayout, he wouldn't have been there if it had been a chance. And it's just been off the charts for a top. But what have you proved during the playoffs and just to see him in a three-year career? Justify who he is and see us up the after the show. Yeah, man. Coach Day is one of the toughest, most resilient guys I've ever been around. That's the reason why we all love him. It's the reason I love him so much. You know, no matter what's going on, no matter all the unfair shit that's being said about. I'm sorry for cussing, but he's going to stand in there and stand strong and take it all on the brunt. Take a head on for us and take all the blame even if it's wrongfully deserved. So playing for him and seeing the way he's responded the last few years, especially this year.

1:27:54It just shows everyone across the country what he's capable of and that he's the best head coach in the country by far, I think. And college football unbiasedly. So being able to see us have that happen here all the things that we heard in Columbus and him and his family go through the things that they went through and come out the back side of it and win the national championship manager. Just meant the world to me and meant the world to us and him and his family. So coach Day is one of the toughest guys I've been around. That's the biggest thing that stands out to me. I mean, like a lot of guys you coming to college with an idea of how it's going to go and then it goes completely opposite for the first couple of years. And I think that's the beauty of growing up and becoming a man and growing in football too is that things aren't always going to be easy. Talking to guys who've been in the league, things have been quite frankly the opposite of easy for a long time and then they have a breakthrough and become one of the best players in the league. So I think I learned a lot about myself just going through those tough times and being able to develop when it feels like you're not developing.

1:29:00And then being able to come out of it those first two years and be able to be a productive player and be one of the best players for your team and help one of the national championships. I think the development part is something that you just show up every day and keep working and eventually all the hard work you put in is going to show up. Yeah, we talked to him. I just texted him, he's down to say, good luck with everything coach, appreciate everything. So we've chatted back and forth a little bit and he texted our senior group chat a couple of days ago and we got out here to the combine and just said good luck and a couple of other things I can't say on here to go out there and kill it. What are you waiting at? 35 to 40, what were you waiting for? What's it been like? What's it been like? Yeah, well, it wasn't great. He's been good. Somebody that's came in, humble and is ready to work. That's been the only words that I have for him. Not a minute, just many words, but he's here to appear to work and he's done just that.

1:30:02And I'm just, we've got to have... Sorry, you missed the ball. That's what he's doing. Yeah, I think essentially that's the culture of our room. When we come off the ball violent. We're looking as soon as hard as we can but clean up the details out. So that's kind of our mindset going into it. You went through your fucking watch. How hard is it to be received or something? In reality, you know you're using a lot of things. How hard is it to kind of change the perception? Or do you guys don't pay attention to outside noise but also a lot of things that you just got. Pretty good to walk on. Yeah, it starts off with like you've got to, it starts off with tuning out the outside noise. And what other people have to say about it? And it's really good. I kind of look at it as if it's like a drop in a bucket.

1:31:02You know, if I got a big bucket, there's no one thing I'm going to do to make this bucket full. It's a daily thing where I put one drop in it a day. And you look back over a year, two years, three years, and look back and be like, man, I've gotten a lot better. So like I said, I'm just very thankful for the unit. The guys that I have around me push me very hard and I'm just thankful. You mentioned that the development of this part of TEDx. What was the book challenging part of you to develop things into the play? Yeah, I'd say definitely the size component. You know, you got to be someone that's, you know, when you got to be big, you got to be strong, you got to be fast, there's a lot of jobs that you have to do. It's a very asking job. You need to buck the big, some of the biggest guys in the field. But also run routes off some of the smallest guys in the field. And so I think just thankful just to be out here and do exactly that. What was it like to get that shot the other day from the pros counts? You know, just run routes, catch balls. Oh, yeah, show off. Yeah, no, there's a good opportunity. I think some of the big, you know, reason behind it was just kind of giving those guys out there that were at Pro-Day.

1:32:02We have limited numbers. So just get out there and give those guys a breather. But maybe the opportunity you get to go out there in front of scouts. I think that's a pretty good deal. And you're taking only a quarterbacks to this point. Quarterback battle is going on. What's been your take on Will, for example, get to know him. And then of course, David, I think the mindset that we have body around here is ironing, sharpening iron. So that's kind of like, it's not just one room. It's from top to bottom throughout this whole team. No matter what position you are, we're here to work. And I think we're all here to make each other better. Whether it's in a quarterback room or a tight-in room, we're running back room. Offense for his defense coach, for his coach. It doesn't matter we're all just ironing, sharpening iron. Especially this time of year in Spring Ball. We're not doing too much game planning for next week. And we're really just spending this time to get better. And build a good foundation for ourselves and something to work on moving forward. If you've seen Will have it fitting in more and more, as the practices have gone on, you know, getting to know everybody and all that kind of... I mean, I've always been here for a while. Oh, sorry. Yeah, I think that's time. I think it's time's goes no matter where you are. You start to adapt and you start to get used to what we have going on here.

1:33:04And so it's good to have... Thanks. Yeah. You're coming in. Thank you. Thank you. What's it been like? Yeah, it's been a lot of years. Learning solutions. Yeah. I'd say when it comes to that, I think it's all the glory to the Lord. And I decided to give my life completely to the Lord a little over a year ago. And that kind of really changed my outlook on the way that I approach football. It's no longer something that I idolize. It's just something that I do. And I think the time of my life where I stopped, you know, compartmentalizing who God was in my life. God was something that I do on Sundays or something that I do in a Bible study. It went from what I do to who I am. And so now I embody that as who I am. And so some of the fruits of the spirit is peace, patience and kindness. And so those are the kind of things that I've started to embody on this journey. I think it's easy to kind of compartmentalize football away from faith. But ultimately, it's all one.

1:34:04It's all one. So it's giving me a spirit of patience, peace, and joy with the guys around me. And so I'm just... I'm thankful. I'm thankful to be here. But being quite honest, I know for a fact I wouldn't be where I'm at right now. And I know I'm outside looking in and I'm asking, you know, where are you right now? But I wouldn't be where I'm at right now if it wasn't for my relationship with Lord. It really came into my life and changed around for a better. G, what did you see from Bennett Christian last year? How did you know that suspension? How did he work with that? Yeah, I think he did a great job. A lot of perseverance. I think that's no matter who you are, we're kind of hearing news like that. You're going to be out for a year, that's hard. No matter where you are. I'm really proud of him because he came up and he came to show up every single day. And he got better. He got better. The easy thing to do in that kind of situation is throwing the towel. Be like, man, forget this or I'll get better next year. But I saw the drive at him and one thing I see in every day he showed up. He got better. And I'm proud of Bennett and I'm proud of this unit.

1:35:12I don't know how to answer that question because if you go from one unit to another unit, the moment you trade units, you're no longer in the unit you are initially in. So you're now a tight end. And so I mean, to answer that question, I think the time that I went from in the receiving it to the tight end unit is the moment I became a tight end. Kevin Wilson was my coach. Coach Lanners was my coach and I was a receiver. It's just different. It's two different roles. I think I'd say to answer that question. The moment that I decided to come to play tight end was the moment I couldn't tie it in. And so now over the years I've gotten better at playing in the position. But the moment that I transferred over, I've been a tight end. And I'm excited to be a tight end. Another position I'd rather play. Will Buckass. Thank you, Gene. Yeah. Yeah.

1:36:18Yeah, definitely. Me, Coach Walt, other DBs, you know. We did a great job bringing BIA back for like two or three years now. And it's in a great place. It's in great hands with Coach Walt and can't wait to see them boys play. Did you met with the club in the years? No, I had not. You could play at a high level. You just got to continue to keep developing, continue to just work on this confidence and continue to just keep producing on the field and making sure that he prepares at a high level. And you know, he gets under the wing of Germain and Davidson and just continue to elevate his game. David Sanchez. Solid player. You know, he's only got the song to practice his really. You know, he just fresh out of high school. So really looking forward to seeing them play. He heard a lot of good things about them. So excited to watch.

1:37:22Got to find a way to separate yourself. Whatever it is, give you watching film, getting extra work in. And just having that confidence knowing that you're that guy. And yeah. In practice, Marvin Harrison. I feel like I could play all areas of the game. I could play inside. I could play outside. I could play off. I could fit in any type of scheme. I'm physical. I'm great run support. And I watch a lot of film. I have not spoken with the Steelers. I just can see and just mature as a corner. You know, I've brought a lot terms of just learning the game. From the mental side of things. And anticipating things and playing fast.

1:38:23I always say, just continue. Just keep working on his man press technique. Continue to keep working on his man press technique. Keep working on his man press technique. Continue to keep working on his man press technique. technique, continue to keep evolving as a corner, and just continue to have that confidence as you have and understand that you are that guy. And just continue to play the game at a very high level. Just some being a leader, and being vocal, his decision making. Just leading that offense, man. And he's done a great job. We won a national championship with him, so cool to listen to him. I'll say, either Chris Olabe or JJ.

1:39:24Yeah. Yeah. It means it means everything to me. We just stood on everything. We talked about, we went through the fire, came out of it, and we went on one hell of a run. Oh, not at all. No, we the buck guys, so you know how I go. It's a lot of games, really. I said the national championship, team of North Game last year, Maryland 23, Nebraska from this year, really a lot of games. I wouldn't really say play.

1:40:25I would just say hosting the national championship trophy at the end of the day. No better feeling than that. And you know, we remember forever in Ohio, so it's awesome. Really just from the head down, understanding that as you continue to get older, your body starts to wear down. So just playing a game from a mental side of things and understanding that you've got to continue to keep preparing yourself, playing at a high level, always be available and consistency. Yeah, man, you know, it's part of the game, especially me playing corner. You know, and everything's going to be perfect, but you know, even though you try to make everything perfect, just the matter is just continue to be. And just next next play mentality and continue to keep pushing forward. Oh, dog. I expected a lot out of him.

1:41:26He gonna go crazy. Mark, why words? I would like to ask you to be my roommate. It was very important. Just leave the room. You know, the blueprint that Coach Wall gave me, another blueprint that I came in as a freshman and just being a four year starter, being the number one guy for four years, understanding that, you know, his BIA is a standard and you guys got to continue to live that standard. No, I don't think so. Just him being in lead for 12 years, you know, him giving me the blueprint of, you know, what it takes to be. A guy that's in a lead that's always accountable, that's always consistent, just sustainability and how to play it again the right way and how to move in this business. How's that gonna translate to the NFL and help you on your rookie season? Really just being comfortable and confidence. That's all that matters for you.

1:42:27Just being confident in yourself, being confident in the scheme that you're in, how you play your role in the scheme, how other people are playing the role in the scheme and just playing out a very high level and just believing in yourself always. Yes, I did. Yeah. It went well, man. It was a great meeting and walked some ball, talked a little bit and really happy to build, it was happy as a former. A game was an anomaly. It just wasn't my day, but I wasn't who I am and just had to keep a push. How did you process all that? We've watched your previous videos and we do that that's not true. How did you process that? How long will you take me to find out what you're like? The next week, really. That Monday, Tuesday practice, on to Nebraska. That's what it was. Got to charge it to the game and just continue to keep building on my craft, man. Just honing on the people around me and that's it.

1:43:32Now, I don't drive starting, I really a big thing to me, man. I let the game so much, man. I just want to continue to keep playing the ball, playing football at a very high level. I have a 10, 12-year football career. I really wasn't about revenge for me. It was really just about the team aspect and understanding that we got the national championship right in front of us. So just a matter of just continuing to keep playing and just be yourself. That's what it was. That was awesome. Probably one of the best things that ever happened at Ohio State. It's like a lot of teams really do that and really trying to get on the same page of everybody else. Everybody has their feelings, their emotions and come together at the end. Just the camaraderie, the love that we have for each other, the everyone care.

1:44:35That was what was really important and glad that happened. Oh, definitely. A lot of things that we weren't doing, a lot of things that we needed to do. So just having that meeting, having that loss, even though we don't want that loss, but national champs now said that's what matters. Is that Purdue? It was cool. I don't really guard like that, but. Yeah, Lichten was guarding them and you didn't want to make it too many plays, but Lichten, he was doing his thing. But he was giving us great looks and great addition to our team.

1:45:39I think Julian, that guy to be honest with you. Lichten is pretty good too, so I'm happy to see this little match up they're going to have. Julian is a great player, great zip on the ball, great pocket presence. He's going to have a good career. I mean, a couple of practices in. Money first guy here. Just the way he's throwing the ball, how he's to himself, how he's all about ball. I could just tell. Yeah. I'm going to say that he has a good arm, but I won't put nothing on him right now, but he's going to be a great player. Not really vocal yet, but as he continues to be in the building more, be around the guys more, get more experience. I feel like he'll start being more vocal, and I feel like I was one of the things he could work on, because he's really quiet.

1:46:41Yeah, man, JJ, he's a great player. He's blessed. And if he continues to keep going at this level, he'll probably be one of the best to come to college. Cardinal Tate and Miley Graham. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, he could be a great player. Me and him be going out a little bit in practice, but that's just me out of love just trying to continue to get him better. And he's quick, good hands, good casualities, good releases. Really excited for him and his fusion. Really depends on what type of guy you are.

1:47:46For me, I wasn't, money don't really move me. It's all about the love of the game, but all the guys I feel like, all this money that's coming in, don't lose your passion, don't lose your love for the game. And go to a culture that's going to build you and mold you and grow you into a man, and the money's going to come. Yeah, definitely, but I ain't going to put him out like that. What it takes to win a championship? That's probably the biggest one. No, I didn't. The variable? Yeah, I got some familiarity with him, but never really met formally. Freshman?

1:48:47Oh, no. Huh? Yeah, for sure. He's a lot. When he got in the building. I feel like I had a great career, a lot of ups and downs. Once again, you got charged to the game, but I've been the number one guy. Since I walked into the building for four years straight, never had a guy. Only had one guy over a hundred yards on me, my whole career. And I feel like I'm, I'm staying cornering. I'm just continuing to keep evolving on my game and, you know, helping to have a long NFL career. No, I had a phone interview with them though. Yeah, a little bit. I like it in McDonald, our Ville Reese. I feel like CJ Higgs. He's going to be on the rise.

1:49:56I feel like this is his year. Sunny Stiles going to have a great year. Yeah, that's who I go and King out of Jackson. A plus, I mean, probably one of the best receivers off the board. One of the probably the best receiver off the board. Yeah, he's a great player. Can't say I can say I can say everything about him, but you know how it is. You've seen him play. I don't know because you know, we got a new DC now. So, maverick was Lorenzo Stiles. So to your point, you know, I think that there is good depth there, but we're going to need them all. Is this is good at depth as you've seen defensively in a few years? I mean, from your vantage point. At corner, yes. I think we're still for me to say that the best we've seen at all positions. No, I don't think we're there. Yeah.

1:50:57Yeah, but at corner and maybe a couple other positions and then some other positions. We got us a little bit better. Okay, final question for coach Day Spencer Holbrook, Letterman Roe. Ryan, you've talked a lot about needing guys for 16, 17 games in depth, but one of the positions that we haven't talked about that with is receiver. Do you feel like you guys have the receiver depth that you need right now? And can those guys, those top four or five play all 16? Or do you need guys younger guys or veterans who haven't really contributed to step up? Yeah, I think it's a little bit of a question. You know, I think when you have you have Mecca and Carnell and then Jaden Ballard, Jeremiah, then you get into, you know, Bryce and Rogers who has done some really good things in spring. I know we had a couple of tough plays today, but we think he can really help us next year. We're missing Brandon and his, Brandon is same thing. He was having, you know, a lot of momentum and then there was a procedure. We just felt like out of, out of caution, we had to get it done. We just didn't want it to linger so we did that. So we'll need him to step up in a big way and then like you to your point, we're going to need a couple more guys to step up to build that depth there.

1:52:01Because, you know, we do have some really good players, but we're going to need them all. So I think it's, it's important that some of those younger guys do step up. We are going to get, you know, my own this summer and we're going to get, you know, Damarian Witten, who's going to play, you know, a little bit receiver, a little bit of tight end. So we do have some young guys and to your point, they're going to have to help us. Do you think that, Jaden, is in that group right now that can't help you? I think Jaden took a step here last week, you know, he's been challenging him. There's been a couple plays one in particular. Like, you know, he needed to make some plays to say, okay, I'm here and you can count on me. There was a really contested play in the red zone that he made. He made a, you know, a big play on a post out here the other day. So you're starting to see him make those plays and if he can do that for us with his, you know, deep speed down the field, he can really stretch the defense. And so we're going to need him to and we did see things in the last couple of weeks to let us to believe that he can. I'm sorry coach, I got one more Joey Kaufman, Columbus Dispatch, and then we've got coach Noles. Ryan, as you look back on not just today, but all 15 practices and assess the impact that chips had for you guys.

1:53:02Is there something you feel like or just in general where he's helped maybe the most for his presence last two months is giving you as a biggest boost? Yeah, I think he brings one voice to the defense and I think that's very, very important. Certainly has an unbelievable history of running the football and and I think when you start to tie in some of those quarterback runs and you notice those quarterback runs aren't design quarterback runs really. Most of them are reading an end and those aren't holaceous hits, you know, they're, they're, they're things where we're going to keep guys upright and he doesn't really good job of that. But the other thing too with with chip was you know, he got here just a couple weeks before spring started. So you know, we kind of got the spring going, you know, pushed through the spring, learned about the personnel. I think the next couple of months will be important to figure out where we go now. You know, what do we do? What is the install look in the preseason and and then we go from there. Like any any spring you want to identify the personnel and get guys better and then really dive into the scheme and the chemistry as we head into the summer coach.

1:54:03Thank you. Do you feel like you're going to go to the court back to know where they stand before Tuesday? We're going to give them feedback for sure. You know and go from there. But yeah, I mean, I think we, you know, after you go through 15 practices, you want to give feedback. Great coach. Thank you very much. All right folks, we're going to bring coach Jim Knowles up here and then after that, we'll have Chip Kelly. We will open up the floor for coach Knowles over here to the right Dylan Davis. Delaware, because that. Hey, Jim. Taiwan Malone is a guy who really flashed out there today. I'm just curious, where does Taiwan fit in your depth defensive line right now? It's a guy who probably doesn't get talked about as much, but where does he fit in that right now? What did you see from in the spring? He's developed for sure, you know, wasn't quite ready last year for a lot of reps, but he showed marked improvement. So, you know, long season, we play a lot of guys up front.

1:55:06We really need him to come to come along and he showed flashes to that. Over to the left. Nathan Barrett, Cleveland.com. With guys like, uh, Nathan and Malik and I guess Lorenzo also not being able to play. And that's been against the case through most of spring. Just what did that open up for you as far as developing more depth at safety and how have you seen guys like, uh, Bonsu and McLean assert themselves as spring? Yeah, every situation like that gives somebody an opportunity. We were, our depth was really down at safety this spring. So, because you had Nathan, you had, um, Jihad, you had Malik and then Lorenzo. So, it opened up opportunities and Bonsu is a guy who really got a lot of reps and you saw him improve. And then, um, McLean I think is a, is a great plus. I mean, he is a guy that has football intelligence. He's picked it up.

1:56:07You know, he's kind of of those incoming freshmen who still should be in high school. He's a guy I think you're going to point to and you can see right now he's going to be a player. Over to the right, Austin Ward, the podcast. Uh, healthy Mitchell Melton. How does he fit in for your defense? What does he bring to it? You know, Mitchell is that combination player, you know, in, um, in our four down, um, you know, he's a guy that can do a lot of things, uh, drop, fold in there and make plays. You see some of that all the time. Really athletic, um, you know, we're kind of loaded at that end position. So, he's going to play there. Like I said last year, we, we haven't needed it, but he's a guy you would point to along with CJ Hicks, you know, for the, for the long season. Um, people get injured. You get a little light inside. It's always hard on the defensive tackles.

1:57:07But if you're going to play with three ends, you know, that's Mitch is a guy who definitely can do all that. He has that over to the left. Joey Kaufman Columbus dispatch. Jim, you've talked about this before, but I think in past years where you're going up against a really talented receiver group offense to encourage your players to, it's not okay if they give up to the play and to go nearly almost the first half. Today, were you, the offense didn't get in the end zone until the late in the second half just. And you guys have guys down the second area. Just what, what did you think of that sort of trend and how it's evolved in the way you guys almost shut them out of the first half? I think it's become, you know, an expectation now. You know, our DB's, you know, our BIA, best in America, we led the country in past defense. Right. I think it was 96 what I, what I got here and it was number one last year. They've taken that spirit. So it's a competitive spirit. It's an expectation now.

1:58:10It doesn't matter who we're going against. It's, they view it as a standard. So that was good to see in the first, first half. Over to the right Spencer Holbrook, Vladimir and Ro. Jim, we've talked about safety changing the way that you play defense in the Leo and the linebackers. But how much does having the depth that you guys have at defensive tackle change the way that you can do things defensively? Yeah, I mean, you're going to play to your strengths, you know, and that's my job. What do we have and what do we do best? When you have defensive tackles, I've said it before, it helped our defense so much last year. When you have defensive tackles that actually make tackles, which is what we have right now, it changes the way you call a game. You know, it certainly helps you be in better shape on explosive plays on the back end. You don't have to do a whole lot to help those guys out because they're making tackles. So you got to go, you got to go with that. You know, you got to let those guys play and they're good.

1:59:15So you can't get too far away from the scheme of having those defensive tackles make place because they're doing it and it works. Over to the left, Tony Gurdman, Buckeye Huddl. Jim Ryan talked about the quarterback run being more of a thing with the offense this year. During the season, how much of when you're facing a team like that, how much does that impact your day to day throughout the week preparing for that? Yeah, it's a ton, you know, it, I think it changes everything you do on defense. You see it everywhere from the NFL on down if you have a quarterback who can make plays with his feet. Your scheme better be designed that, you know, to take that away into account for it. So it changes the way you look at everything when you're game planning. Thank you, Donovan. Over here to the right, Tim May, the Tim May podcast. Yeah, Jim, you might be the interviewer when I asked Ryan about just, for example, Calvin Simpson Hunt, but the corner seemed to be playing almost with the chip owner shoulder to a certain extent. I mean, Davis and Nick Benosin took the day personally, it looked like, you know, to me, because some of the hype going into the game.

2:00:18But what do you see from that group in particular that Buies you going into this off season? Yeah, when you can, when you have corners that you can count on, again, it's just like having defensive tackles in the run game. When you have corners you can count on that are going to compete all the time, no matter what the situation is. And we've developed that again, it changes the way you call the entire game. You're able to leave those guys on an island, you're able to switch up converges and they know what they're doing and they take great pride in it. So having those guys out there in the development, it's a big deal. It really is. And it's not jumped into the picture of the board. I was thinking that late back here. Yeah, I mean, he's, he did come in late and, you know, he compete, he's one of those guys that just competes every day, doesn't say much. You know, he's trying to live up to the standard of the other guys and you see him coming along. You know, you see him step by step coming along and, you know, put him in a, you know, competitive atmosphere, same step up. That's a great sign.

2:01:30And final question for coach Knowles, Dan Hope, 11 Warriors. You mentioned CJ Hicks a few minutes ago. Have you seen him take the strides you need to see the spring to trust him as a guy who could be a potential starter on his defense? Yes, I mean, I think CJ has shown that he has talent. And I think it's my job to put him in the best situations for him because he can be a force. You know, he's much better when he's bloodsing or he's directed because he's able to use his athletic ability, but he has certainly shown that he's going to be able to help this defense coach. Thank you very much for your time. All right. And we will bring offensive coordinator and quarterback coach Chip Kelly to the podium now. We'll open up the questions over to the left bill Rebenowitz Columbus dispatch. Chip, what are your just general impressions of the offense coming out of spring, especially quarterback?

2:02:32We'll look at all 15. So I think, you know, this day is is a big part of it, you know, because it was the first time they were going to play some of those guys that were going to play in front of a crowd. And that was an amazing crowd. You know, you get 80,000 for spring game. Now you can see some of the young guys kind of looking around like, wow, this is different than the indoor. But that's what they have to get ready to play it. So we got better from practice one practice, 15, you know, it's still an evaluation through the whole process, but it's not something in the players, though, to the will, we're not making a decision walking off the field today saying, hey, this is the direction that we're going in will will be very authentic and look through everything and make sure that we get a really good feel for what it all looks like and then who will best move this offense. That's what our decisions can do. I do. I think we got a lot of guys there. That part's tough. I think because you got it. There's guys that deserve reps, you know, and they're all competing for it. So, you know, sometimes you'd like to be sometimes when you had a guy who was an initial starter, well, he's going to get the bulk of the reps to get him better, but they capitalize on. We really rolled him, you know, if you were at some of our spring practices, you're watching all those guys rotate and rotate out.

2:03:37And as we talk about all the time, you know, the old adage is don't count your reps, make your reps count. You know, and we'll put it all together and really come up with, you know, which guy do we really feel is going to help us move this offensively. Over to the far right, Bill Landis, the podcast, Kings of the North. Hey, Chip, you said when we first talked to you that the basis of a lot of your success running the football just kind of figuring out what your guys do best and then leading into that over 15 practices now, how good of a field. Do you think you have for that? And then what did the next few months look like as you try to piece that all together? Really good question. It's interesting because the one thing that I think sometimes makes tough and an evaluation is what a good front we want to get. So for 15 practices, those guys on the other side of the ball were pain, you know, Jack and JT and Tileek and those guys, but I know come fall. There's not going to be anybody more happy that we have those guys on the defensive side of the ball because of what they can do. So I still think we'll have to really evaluate that what we're good at what we're not what we got to get better at what we got to work on, but I think the work we got against such a quality defense was really key for us.

2:04:46Over to the far left, Nathan Baird, Cleveland dot com. So you were go at this time, it came out of the spring with still a lot of question marks about the offensive line. And even I guess that last season came out with question marks. How have you seen that progress in the time that you've been here and what's your confidence level that that offensive line is going to allow this offense to do everything it wants to do this fall. Yeah, I mean, I've been here short amount of time. So I didn't know. I really don't have anything to compare to. So I kind of tabula rassa come in with a blank slate and just observe it. I think we're really athletic. I think Donnie and Seth and those guys inside are really smart and really intelligent. They allow you to be able to make adjustments in game. Just talking football with some of those guys. It's like, well, these guys are wired the right way and a lot of those guys have played a lot of football. So they can bank on their experience. I think we've got about four guys that have played significant amount of snaps and we've got to make sure we can find out who the fifth guy is. And I also think in the offensive line, you're not going to play a 16-17 game season and just play with five guys. You really have to develop your depth there.

2:05:52There's going to be a number two center that's going to play a lot of football. There's going to be a number two guard, whether it's on either side of the ball, there's going to be a third tackle. I think you're going to get tested, especially in this new playoff format. You really have to think that way. So you're not looking for five starters. You're really looking for 10 starters because you're going to have to probably play 10 guys to get when you get through a 16-17 game season. Over to the right. Austin Ward, the podcast. I think it was the first play of the game, the T formation and then the reverse spin move with Will Howard. What's the inspiration for that package and that sort of wrinkle with the quarterback? Mr. Hayes. There's a looming figure around this whole program. We get to go to work every day and then Woody Hayes Athletics Center. It was good enough for Woody. We're going to steal it. We're going to do it. We ran some last year. I think we took 21 snaps at UCLA and T. We've been a short yardage formation for us and we've done some different things with it. I also think our players had a lot of fun practicing that and doing some different things. It's a small part of our offense. We will not be in the T21 times in one game.

2:06:59But we may get in in some short yardage situations. I think it's come back. There's a lot of schools right now that are starting to do that. You know, it's really just you're trying to, you know, you got to have a yard to get. You know, you're trying to get your big guys in the game. I think we use three tight ends and two running backs in our formation today with Packard being the full back in that situation. So there's a lot of different things you can do in short yardage but a little bit of attribute to Coach Hayes and what he means to this program. Joey Kaufman, Columbus Dispatch, over to the left. Chip, as you look back, now you've been here two months, 15 spring practices. What do you feel best about what you've been able to accomplish with this offense? Well, I haven't accomplished anything because I didn't take a snap. But I think the most impressive thing since that Benner has helped close this football team is. You know, some programs talk about a brotherhood. This is really a brotherhood. Our practices, as we talked about, how good our defense is. They're highly competitive but they're not combative. And those guys really work very, very well together, both the whole line and the D line and the secondary and the receivers.

2:08:02The competition is the best, it's got to be the best there is in the country. You know, and that makes you better. But I think sometimes competition, you know, guys can lash out and it gets really combative. And then all of a sudden the fight breaks out and the fight breaks out and we're trying to accomplish and get footballed on them. But I think the way these guys cooperate and work together as a group is a special bond. And I think you're going to need the closest team and the most connected teams with the ones that win. Over to the right here, Andy Baxter, Letterman Rolk. Chip, obviously there's been a lot of talk about Jeremiah but Ameca is the big return in this group. He kind of reminded everyone what he can do today. What's it been like working with him and what kind of weapon can he be for you guys? Good point. And Ameca has reminded me and the other 14 practice sessions of what he can do. Special player, you know, and J.J.'s a really talented player also. But, you know, I think all of the whole group, a Cornell tape, did some really good things watching him this spring. And for all of them, you know, I mentioned it with the offensive line. I came in with the blank slate. And I had no opinions formed, not that really just wide eyeed and just observed them. But, you know, that, I think that wide receiver is really special.

2:09:05And I think there's a bunch of guys in there. And again, when you have to play multiple games after the regular season is over, you're going to make sure you're going to need depth like that. And the fact that it's, you feel a little bit comfortable right now. And that really dictates how people are going to defend you. You know, so you got a couple really good running back. You know, so are they going to load the box or are you really going to load the box and leave those guys in one on one coverage? Well, then it's the quarterbacks responsibility to decipher that and get the ball to those guys. Or do they at least a double coverage? They list a double coverage and now it's a little bit lighter box and you can run the ball. So having too many weapons is a good problem to have. Second roll left, Pat Murphy, 24-7 sports. Chip, we've talked a lot about kind of the quarterbacks maybe vying for the starting spot. But some of the younger guys, what have you seen from them? We got an opportunity to see more of them today than we probably have. What's your assessment of them as they kind of get into this? I always am so impressed with young guys that enroll early in watching how they get acclimated and what they do.

2:10:12They look at Julian and Air and JJ. They should be in the hot lunch line of their high school. And they're out here playing in front of 80,000 people. And they've really progressed when you watch them in meetings and listen to them and they interpret. So basically the whole concept here is we throw them in the deep end and see if they can swim. You know, this we didn't baby anything. We don't put the install in with, hey, you guys are in install. We're an install. This with the older players. And then you guys go set at the kitty table and we're just going to do the really simple. Things with you, you know, they get it all in the more they can digest the more when you're in a room when you're checking for understanding and asking questions. And they can spit back to you the more confidence you have when they get in there with the plays that you can call for them. So those guys have been impressive. They're still learning. You know, they were the guys today that were kind of looking around and saying, wow, there's like 80,000 people here. Along with the offensive coordinator and the quarterback coach because I was kind of looking around because I had actually never been in the stadium until the day before. I've never been in the stadium until yesterday when we had our 14th practice in there. So I played Ohio State once when I was at Oregon, but that was in the Rose Bulls.

2:11:18I had never been actually in the stadium until yesterday. So I caught myself when I went into the stadium today looking around saying 80,000 for spring game. That's impressive. Got time for just a few more folks over here to the right Dylan Davis Delaware Gazette. Given what you just said about throwing them into the deep end, what stood out the most about Julian's progression through 15 practices and where he is as you guys head out of spring? Julian is a very fast processor. You know, he really thinks very, very quickly on his feet. Like he makes really quick decisions. He can stick on and read, he can progress in any ceasing. It's really well for a young player, you know, in not having been exposed to a lot of college defenses. And especially what Jim does, you know, Jim can make Jim can make a young freshman quarterback cry with some of the stuff he does. You know, I never saw that with Jules and I that's been impressive his his ability to retain and, you know, him and JJ, the compliment I would say them is if you got here and you didn't know what class they were in, you wouldn't say that those guys are freshmen in terms of how they've picked things up and, you know, sometimes freshmen, act like freshmen.

2:12:29But the guys who are special, they don't act like freshmen, you know, they act like football players and those are two guys that are examples of that far left. Cameron T. Robinson, the athletic chip. On the topic of freshmen, James Peebles and Sam got on the run the second half. You talk about how deep you need to be in this era of college football. But as you search for RB3, what did you see from them today and what is their growth been like in this spring? Yeah, James really flashed early for me, not knowing again, kind of, let's just take. Don't worry about what the background is, whether from who they are. The this guy of this stars, that's guy of that stars. It's the raw buck ice and just how they do it. I think James has got really good feel and vision. He can hit things. I thought Sam did some really good things today. T.C. is another guy who really came along during the spring and work constantly talking in our staff meetings about depth. We're very cognizant of the fact that the playoff situation has changed. So you have to develop that depth, you know, used to be maybe have a parent of spare was what everybody says, but I think you may have to have more than that.

2:13:34You're talking about 16, 17 games. You're really going to be tested that way. So I was really happy with how those young guys have come along here in the 15 training sessions that we've had. Oh, over here to the right. Tim May, the Tim May podcast. Thank you, Jerry. You have your own podcast. Yeah. Like these guys all had like a name next to their. You're in a way show. Okay. That's pretty cool. He must have some juice if you got your name in your podcast. Definitely. Okay. By the way, I like it. It's not just the lunch last, the hot lunch last while it's hot lunch. Yeah. Just two quickies. Number one, do you feel compelled to let these quarterbacks know where they stand? You know, it's coming up Tuesday. You know, to me. Yeah. You know, where does that go? I mean, in your mind. Yeah. We're all sit down as a staff and visit me. Don't mind. Maybe he doesn't unbelievable job of I think all our players understand where they fit and what what the picture is. And we'll give them our assessment. This isn't, you know, we're not going to come back. But we do it after every day. They know where they stood after practice. One after two after three after four. We grade everything.

2:14:35They're getting constant feedback in terms of where we are. And then after 15, which we had today. But, but we can't do it unless you watch the film and can really look at the things. Because you may see something, but you're on the sideline. You know, why did he make that decision? Well, I couldn't really see the field safety from where he was. Okay. Now I understand why you made that decision. So, you know, what will, but they'll, we'll meetings with all our players. And that's, that's always been the method. So this week during, you know, between Monday through Friday, we're all scheduled. No one's going on the road recruiting until after that. But we're all a player meeting. It's at every position. You know, offensive line, defensive line, linebacker, safety is everybody. Everybody's going to sit down with their position coaches and know where they fit. And we see them. But do you feel a pressure with the, with the transfer portal looming? I mean, you know, you've been a head coach for a long time. I mean, is that on your mind at Tuesday? Yeah, I think all three of us are aware of it. And I'm 100%. And I don't think it's pressure. But I think you just open lines of communication and everybody knows, you know, which, what your evaluation was through the training sessions that we have.

2:15:39Guys, we got to have, we got real quick. Last two questions. Dan Hope and then Rob Aller. You feel like you need to have a starting quarterback named by and whatever biggest things you're going to be looking for between now and then in determining who that guy's going to be. Well, between now and, and whatever then is we're not allowed as coaches to go back out and practice with him. You know, in college football, you get 15 training sessions in the, in the off season. And then they'll go back to work and with Mick in the, in the weight room and getting bigger, getting faster, getting stronger. They'll have organized activities themselves. And they, they do a really good job of that. But once there's a football out, like we're not allowed to be there to evaluate and even assess. So they're really from a football standpoint on their own until August. So you always want to do it earlier. But I also believe every time I've, I've been involved in this is that it kind of happens organically and authentically. You know, because the players know, and if you say, hey, we decided we're going to be with Joe and they all think it's Tim.

2:16:41You know, they know they're in the locker room with him every day. Players, players understand, you know, who they feel is the guy. And most of the time it, the decision is very obvious. You know, when you just say, hey, this is where we are with it. But there's that timetable thing. I don't, I can't give you an exact timetable on that. So Rob, Chip, you talk about Julian. But typically in your experience, you've done it again, like Tim said a long time. How long does it take for the game to slow down for a young QB? I think it depends on the individual. You know, I've had some kids where early, you know, you were like, wow, Marcus Murray, what was like that? Remember vividly second practice and he got to the fifth read in the progression and threw it out here in his big game. And I asked him why I do it all. I asked why, because I just want to understand it. And I said, why did you do that? And he goes, I don't know what we call that defense, but there was like a lot of guys over there. And they didn't seem like there was anybody over there. But for him to process it that foul, he was right.

2:17:46And he came back the other day and that was cover 60 other day coach. I learned what you guys call the coverages. But it all happens differently. I've got guys that for two years seem like they're just, you know, they're really struggling. And then the light bulb goes off and you know, whoa, like they got it. So everybody has different learning styles. You know, our job in the evaluation process is to identify those learning styles. So, you know, they cognitive learn, they an auditory learner, you know, do they learn by feel? Is it more a feel guy, you know, a more film guy? You know, it's all different. And I think we have to keep poking and prodding in in in for us as coaches, that's the challenge too is what is their best learning style? And how can we convey it? Because education basically is just a transportation of knowledge. But it really doesn't matter what I know or what Ryan knows, it matters what they know. So that's that's always kind of what we're working on and studying and thinking about and kind of where we are and how much can they handle? And then how much is too much, you know, because this may be a great play. I agree 100%. But if you don't feel it's a good play, then why is it in?

2:18:51You know, I mean, and that's that's this whole feeling of process that we're all they're learning us and we're learning them. So I have identities. So do coaches really? Running quarterbacks. Is that something you've always sort of lean toward or is it year by year case by case? What advantages do you like about? Because all your guys can run a little bit. Yeah, I think a running quarterback causes problems for defense. So when when plays break down the unscheduled plays, you know, if you just go back to the recent Super Bowl. On that last drive, the two big plays were my home's run. But Patrick, my home's another runner. And he's not calling design quarterback runs for Pat. But when the defense matches up and plays two men and turns their backs to the quarterback, well, maybe the best decision is to take off. You know, the second one he took out, I'm like, he may score. You know, a lot of guys go and they want to hook side, you know, and and there's times where you have to understand if you do have a running quarterback. If we talk about the best of the best ability is availability, you know, you're not lowering your shoulder and taking people on.

2:19:52But we are always looking for quarterbacks that have the ability to run. We're not looking for running backs that can throw. You know, so you're not going to see us 20 times a game where running the quarterback. There are people that run offensive styles and are really successful with it. But with this group we have right now, that's not. Now they can hurt you with the feet. Will did it when he was at case date, you know, obviously Devon took off a couple of times today. He took off a couple of times today. Lincoln's a really, really good athlete. Julian can run. But, you know, we're not calling design quarterback runs. You know, you're not going to see, you know, a tremendous amount of respect for coaches in the legacy that he left here. The straight T is about as far as we go. We are not going single wing. So we are not going to snap it and run quarterback ice on quarterback power. So, but it is a it's another weapon, you know, and if it also keeps defenses honest, you know, if your defensive and is going to continue to bend from the quarterback and he's on the edge and he's getting first downs, within the defensive end has to stay outside and contain the quarterback. Well, then we can run the ball up and hand the ball off. Sometimes in our running game, our quarterback really is a blocker.

2:20:55He's responsible for a defender if the defender was cheating and fitting in on the run. Well, then his responsibility is to make the defense be honest. And that's really air did that a couple of times today. Now we had a block that safety was sticking his face in there. So we took off around the edge. What happens in next play the defense is wider. Then what do we get to do? We got a chance to hand the ball off to the running game. Great coach. Thank you so much for your time and thank you for being a buck. I thanks. You know, we're very, very excited right now and it's a fun group to be around every day. Coach Mix has been doing a great job and you know, some of the workouts we've had this summer. But now as we head into the preseason camp, it's going to be critically important to build the foundation every year. You know, you you rebuild the team. You don't just jump back to where you were the year previous and where we're going to work really hard to have a physical preseason camp and build that foundation is that's going to be what's going to be the difference in the end. So Denzel Burke is one of the first guys that are here. Denzel has already had a tremendous career to Ohio State and made that decision like one of the other guys to come back and play his senior year.

2:22:01And Denzel has already played a high level of football, but he's going to be one of the best corners in America. He's shown great leadership. He's made great strides as a player, but also just in his maturity. We're talking on the the plane right over here about how you approach preseason camp. A lot different now in his point of his career than he would as a freshman. And he's much more intentional with everything he does. And I think it's a chance to be the best corner in America next season. A mecca Buka can't say enough about who a mecca is. A mecca is an old soul. Since he's been here, he's been a warrior. He has his degree. He had to make his decision on whether he wanted to go to the NFL or not. He decided to come back with a degree in hand. And we didn't get a chance to see the best version of him last year with his ankle injury, but we're seeing it now. And he's always been a leader. He's been a leader since he walked in the building as a freshman, but now he gets an opportunity to do that as a senior. And then last is Jack Sawyer. A lot of people lead different ways. Jack leads by his actions.

2:23:03And then he started off by being one of the first guys to commit to me in the class as a head coach, but also in every crew in that class. But also decided to come back this year. He was one of the first sat down with Ian as that lion said they have unfinished business here. And they started to get the guys to come back and build that group together that wanted to come back and leave a legacy behind. And so, you know, being a buck, I mean a lot to him being from Ohio. And he's going to continue to lead explain his best football. Did it at the end of the season and we'll continue to have a great off season. So these three guys are here that they're unbelievable representatives of representative Ohio State and proud that they're part of part of our team. The last thing I'll just say in the open up to questions is just that, you know, our focus is on this preseason. It's the next step. And, you know, sure, a lot of coaches will say it. You can't really focus on what happened the year before. You can't get too worried about what's coming down the road. But we don't know there's a lot of, you know, noise and a lot of hype around this team.

2:24:06And what we can't do is, you know, let those distractions, you know, grab our focus from what we need to do day in and day out. We know it's going to be a long season, but we got to have a great preseason. We got to have a physical preseason. We got to lay that foundation for what's going to come as we head throughout the season. But we're very, very excited about our guys. We have great experience in that locker room and some great talent. But it's going to take more town. It's going to take all the no talent issues to get to where we want to be and reach our goals. So appreciate everybody and we'll open up to questions on your left. Dave Biddle 24 7 Sports Highlight. I want to ask you about your offensive line entering camp. How do you feel about your own line overall entering camp? And then in addition to that, who do you expect will be your right guard or who are the guys competing there right guard? Yeah, as you know, the old line has been the area that we've been really, you know, locked in on. I think that coming out of the summer that their bodies look different. I think you'll see them next week. You know, we have some of those open camps. Our days of camp that they look good mixed on a great job. And they've had a good, good summer.

2:25:10But we know how important that is. I mean, you know, this, this team is going to go as the offensive line goes. This team is going to go as a defensive line goes. And so we know how important the offensive line is going to be. So I think that some guys have really stepped up Josh Breyer to me has had unbelievable summer. Donnie's been much, much a leader. When it comes to that right guard position, I think, you know, you're going to see, you know, Carson, his been in, in Seth, you know, they're both can swing between center and guard. But then Tecger, Shabola is someone that has had another, another guy stepped up and had a good summer loop want, comery. It would feel like we have some decent guys in there that can, you know, fill that role. But we're going to go put it on the field now and see how this training and everything that's happened this summer is going to translate to being on the field. On your right side, go. Hey Ryan, Dylan Davis, Deliver Gazette. I know you've talked about debt that receiver being a big part of what you need the accomplish in the preseason. I guess, where do you, what do you feel you're out with that debt and behind a macro? Who's kind of started to emerge in that four to five member group? Yeah, it's a great question. I feel like we, we have a good, you know, we're kind of top heavy there. And then, you know, okay, where is four, five, six to seven?

2:26:20Brand in us, you feel branded in us when you're out there. So this is going to be a great opportunity for him to do that. You know, Jay Ballard is another guy who's been in the program a while. We need him to step up and make an impact. He's down the field threat with great speed. And again, this is something that's been in our program now. And I think that's another part of this team that we have is, you know, two, three, four. These guys have been in the year in the program for a while now. So there's been a lot of built up, you know, springs and summers and practices and development along the way. So we need, we need JB to step up and he's been charged with that challenge along the way. Bryson Rogers, another guy that gives us some, um, play an ability in the slot. You know, he's got bigger. He's gotten stronger. He needs to continue to play that way because he has the ability to run routes and get open against anybody in the country, in my opinion. You know, Kodja Antwiz, somebody that has to step up as well. And then we have some other young guys in there that have an opportunity to do that. So, you know, that that four, five, six and seven is going to be critical and, you know, solidifying the wider seabird depth.

2:27:27But that's going to have to happen this preseason. I mean, Tim may have a role on three dot com. Right. I'm just wondering if you have you told your team to embrace these expectations for this season and number two in your mind, how legit are these expectations? Well, I think anytime your your out of state, you know, we know you're going to have expectations, but you know, there's always going to be chat. There's always going to be noise and it's our job to block all those things out and just focus on what really matters. And I think especially this time of year, the easiest thing to do is focus on, you know, the goals focus on the end of the season. But that's really is a waste of time if we don't build the foundation right now. Now our guys, they know what the expectation is. You've heard some of them say, you know, what what what their goals are. And we're not going to shy away from that. You know, we want to win the rivalry game, be right in this stadium right here when this big 10 championship, what a national championship. You know, we know that. But at the same time, like that can't be our focus because that's that's a distraction from where we are right now.

2:28:32And so where this season goes and what this team looks like is going to look a lot different than it did last year. And this is a new journey. We've got to rebuild that to get to where we need to be. And that's our last last winter. But the next step is now in preseason. And so, you know, we know the expectation. Every time, you know, I've, you know, gone into a season in Ohio State. I guess this is going to be my eighth season now. You know, six is the head coach. You expect to win every game. That's just what it is. And if you don't think that's the case, try losing a game in Ohio State. I mean, you're expected to win them all. So that's not new. We embrace it and recruiting and we want to make sure that those type of people are in our program. Right. Jimmy, Jimmy Watkins Cleveland.com. In delegating play calling duties to chip. I just think that's going to change your your perspective on the game day. Change your responsibilities on game day a little bit. How, how might that change the way you manage games on a situational basis?

2:29:35Well, I think this year there is a change with two minute warning. I think that needs to be something that we take into consideration. You know, just how the games are going to change at the end of the end of the game. But, but other than that, I feel like, you know, I've always had a pretty good handle on that. So going into each game will have a game plan in place. You know, chips here for a reason to run the offense. But I think it's my job as the head coach to look on the horizon and figure out what's coming. And in this conference, you know, have experience of what's coming down the road, the games we need to win, how we need to win. Also with the type of players that we have. So that'll kind of be my input in the offense knowing, you know, what we're doing. And the great thing for he and I is, you know, we see things the same way and we've been in the same offense together in our careers. So I think there'll be a lot of that. But chips, one of the best offensive minds in, you know, the history of college football in my opinion. He's a great play caller. So, you know, he's got to do that. He's just got to go and get a feel for our guys and let them call it.

2:30:36But in terms of the management of the game and everything, it allowed me an opportunity to be on both sides of the ball, including special teams. And have a great feel for that and making those decisions. Hey, coach, Mike Regolato, Bruno, Port online, sticking with chip. And last few years, I've been able to see his innovation and his creativity with players. Aside from that, how is that ever you to see what he can do with this team and what else does he bring to your program? Well, I think when you look at any offense, what you're trying to do is you're trying to figure out what plays maximize the guys you have in the locker room. Chip has a background of doing things a lot of different ways. I think everyone immediately goes to the spread offense and, you know, when he was at Oregon and some of the no huddle stuff. But, you know, he's, you know, he's UCLA. You saw him do things with three 10 ends in the game, you know. Before that, you know, there was a lot of two back stuff. There's, you know, there's a lot of different versatility in his background. And so I think the idea is, all right, what fits our guys?

2:31:40It starts with the quarterback and then it goes with the offensive line, the running backs, the receivers and how that all gets put together. I think he would tell you he's very excited about what he has, you know, in terms of the town level, you know, in the perimeter up front, the running backs, the quarterback options, the tight ends. So that's the journey that we're on. You know, what is it that fits that? And then it's my job as the head coach to make sure it fits complimentary football across the board and that the offense is complimenting the defense. And so in terms of the second part of your question, you know, what he brings, you know, for me turning it over, you know, I really wanted to have somebody that, you know, had had coaching experience. Now, you know, never thought that, you know, you'd have somebody that was a head coach the way he has been in college and in the NFL and that background. And so it allows me a little, you know, more of a piece of mind and certainly a lot of trust there. I mean, I trust Chippell my life. And that's a big part of anytime you're, you know, handing something over like that, but you've done, you know, you're almost your entire career.

2:32:42Coach Ryan, they thank you so much for your time. Thanks guys. All right, this concludes the opening media session with our coaches, podium sessions on the South end of the field. The Alas is sitting here for coaches and students will begin at 1 to 15 p.m. Say, hey, okay, not only within games, can we keep guys fresh, right? But can we do that so that when you get to the last few games in the season that act that are the big ones, right? The ones that you're judged off of when you get to the game, are we healthier? And I think that's, it's kind of a both, a both-hand, right? So I'm still confident with five guys and that's going to be a week to week. You know what I mean? Like these guys know, I think honestly, who start to be week to week? If you display during the week of practice that you're locked in and somebody else has a bad mental week, well, I can't reward you with starting if you have six mental errors during the week, you know what I mean? Just because you started last week. So I think it's got to be that iron sharpens, iron constant complications due to the whole fall.

2:33:56I always felt when I was here that they were trying to out-refruit me, which is the reality, right? Which is why it prepares you so well for the National Football League. That's why Ohio State prepares you so well for the league because now it's like they're trying to out-draft you. And so I used that as fuel, but I also thought firsthand, you know, like there was a season where it was John Kerr, Marcus Freeman, certain guys rotating week to week. And so I thought like, should it have happened to them that could happen to me? So I just tried to be a certain way in practice. Like I tell the guys all the time, you have to control the things that take no talent. You have to eliminate all loves. Like if you if you love on the field, you're a traitor, like you should just go play through their team. Like that can't, you can't be coaching effort. And then you can't have mental errors because if you have a mental error, then you can't trust you. So those are the two things I always had the player was like, all right, you're not going to catch me, loping and you're definitely not going to catch me, not knowing what I'm supposed to do. I might get beat, and that's inevitable. That's football. Everyone's on scholarship, right? But those two things you can control every single day.

2:34:57What's the next step in the sun? I think it's just, you know, we haven't we haven't done like any of my series. So we know he can tackle and all that. But I think it's just the repetitive grind of a football game from in the box, the constant. And he's been he's been willing so far, you know what I mean as far as his hand placement has been good, even more on the strike. He's tough. So it's just continuing to have him challenged to there's plays right now where he's seeing it from the first time from the will backer. So the next time he sees it, maybe a throw catch tackle is at the intersection. You don't even mean because he's seen it before from that perspective. Everything he's seen before this has been from top down off the shelf, right? So now it's dropping back. That'll drive him. He's made great progress and I'm really happy with how son he's done. James, look at that recruiting. It seems like it's going really well for you. Obviously you can't talk about specific recruits, but just overall how do you feel like that's going and are you enjoying your recruiting? I am. I am enjoying it. I think it's it's fun to build relationships and get to know so many different types of kids, you know.

2:36:06Ohio State presents opportunity, right? And so many different ways. You're not going to get developed better anywhere else in the country. We have the largest fan base, largest alumni, and there's this opportunity everywhere, right? So you try to just like explain your passion for the school that did so much for you, you know, especially being an out of state kid, not being formal, Ohio. And then realizing how much Ohio State changed my life. And so now you communicate that to other young kids who kind of see it and try to tell them the vision like where you can get to. I think the fun thing for me is that most of the kids I'm recruiting are way more athletic than I ever was. So it's like I tell them if I can the only way I survived in the NFL eight years was the fact that I had football intelligence like I knew where I was going. You know what I mean? I knew where I was fitting. And so now if I can impart that information on kids who are extremely athletic, well now you're now you got something special.

2:37:09How much of you guys have already talked about long season and the need to play more guys? Well, I think yeah, you're going to have to have that. That's just the reality, right? It's a longer season. There's more game and there's no excuse that a place like here like if you're all on playing with a maybe a guy who was third or fourth, that doesn't matter. You know, like you got to be ready to go. So I think depth is crucial at all of the vision because injuries are going to happen there's part of football. You know, you never want to wish it upon anyone and you're certainly not, but it's just you can't be naive to think that you're just going to have every single starter healthy for the whole season. You talked about your mentality as a player and then you're recruiting different players than you were. How do you, how do you marry that when they made that same mentality that you need? But you want them to have that. Well, you figure that out when you get to know them. And there are certainly some kids that you start to recruit to where you see like, you know what? Ohio State might be too big. It might be too big for them. You know what I mean? And so it's not for everybody.

2:38:13You have to want to come in and compete against the best and realize that you have to win every single game to be the best in the world of what you do. That's the expectations that Ohio State. And that's certainly not for everyone. And that's okay. But you have to through the process kind of find out who has that mentality, who really craves football? You know, like who craves football versus a lot of the other fluff that kind of comes with it? Who craves ball? Because when they crave football, then the other stuff will take care of itself, right? And we'll just keep getting better and better and better if they want to be the best. Do you want questions for games? I mean, I think that's your job as recruiters. You got to figure out what's the mindset of the kid. And are they serious about football? And you have to talk to the people that are around them. And you got to figure out how to talk to coaches. You just got to try to figure out like who loves ball? And they had a felt they do the same thing, right? Now they're attending massive amounts of money. And they're saying, okay, we're going to get this person money as a change their motivation or they still love balls. So now it means, and college is the same thing. Like who actually wants to be the best or who just likes the attention that comes with playing football?

2:39:18Jake, I've already talked about it, but can you tell a little bit of the elevation from our bell from end of the class? Obviously, Mr. Time last year was the injury, but where he's at now versus the expectation that he had to move this way? Our bell, I mean, showed a lot of progress. Most importantly, mentally with the playbook and everything. I think our bell last year, there was a couple things, right? Because of injuries on the D line and camp. He moved to end for a little bit and then we brought him off the ball and then he had an injury and he kind of missed some time. He wasn't an early mid-year, so he comes in right in the summer. And so he missed some reps there. So the see where he's at right now is extremely impressive. And for a guy of that size and that much power and his ability to run, he's a special athlete. And so our bell is at a good spring. He's got to continue to dive into the playbook and got to continue to learn all the little things. And as you go, right, like week one, week two, you start seeing new schemes, new schemes, things build. And it becomes kind of a lot. He's just got to continue to comb through it all because athletically, you know, he's one of the most gifted guys that we have in the room.

2:40:24I know, and I'll probably make sure he's put a lot of effort. What has changed time that you've been recruited to now that you're with me and like, you're there on the mental differences you've noticed in your own area? No, I think it still comes down for the most part. Like, NIL is certainly an aspect for some. For some, it could be the most important thing. It's always a factor. But I think you still just need to find out who are the kids that love football and they want to be developed. And it's about the relationship to an extent. Like, a relationship gets you to the final stretch. For some kids, I don't know, I might be the thing that pushes them over the top. I mean, I don't know. Like, every kid is so different, right? I try to view it as you're just building relationships. And are you going to get a young man to trust you to develop them into not only the player that they want to be, but the person that they want to be in the future. And you can convince mom and dad that you're the right person to do that, you know what I mean? So I think one of the things that is helpful is my playing experience. I think, you know, when you've played and you've done it and the drills that you're doing, you know that they work.

2:41:30You're not going to waste your time on stuff that doesn't work. And then the fact that, you know, I am blessed to be at my alma mater. You know, if there's no sense of trying to leave here, you know, and then you have the question, I get a ton. Is what do you see yourself in five years? I'm like, where I'm sitting? It's my alma mater. You know, my kids love it in Columbus. Obviously, I love Ohio State. So I think those are things that can kind of be in the van. Okay, but I've even worked with you know, kick off the club team as well as what's that that's like for you and your goal to get involved with that thing. Yeah, it's awesome. Maybe I love it because it gives you an opportunity to coach the whole team. You know what I mean? Like special teams in a spot where the whole team probably minus the quarterbacks, right? Is all in one team room and one meeting room. So you get to actually directly impact other positions and just your own. And I think it also gives. It gives a little bit of urgency to your own room. Like when you're in there every single time, you better be making an impact on pun. If you're a linebacker, you better be making an impact on kick return or on kick off kick off return.

2:42:31Punt return all those things. You better be making an impact, right? Because your coach is in. You know, play a man we can and not fully sure what how that's going to look like yet, but we're going to be ready for it. So you get a sense of pressure being. How much do you want to do? He's gone through so much. I don't think he deserved any of the stuff he's gone through, but you know, he's he's our leader. No matter what, he's always standing in front of the team and he's he's taken all the heat and taking all the bullets from everybody else. So, you know, if we can get this done for him, it'll be it mean everything because he's got to so much. What is low-awaited leadership and the mistake is here? He's a wonderful leader and I mean throughout all the adversity we've gone through, especially injury wise. I mean, he's been. He's been. A person he could always look to. He's always confident. He's always upbeat and.

2:43:35And he was really beaten this past week too, which is like. Brown the guys and making sure everyone is still focused on the mission and I just can't say no good things about him. He's a great. Things you guys have seen for a bit of a while. I mean, one thing I like about him, he just I was I think he stays tough in that pocket. I mean, I know it's tough. You guys guys want to all feel trying to come and attack you, but he's always stayed tough in there. And he's ready to make a throw or whatever it takes to keep the offense going. And he just I feel like I just get confident when I watch him out there. Well, Kiel Daza thinks that door for word finalists, I'm not mistaken. It's been at least here in the last couple of minutes, but what have you been most impressed by about this young guy? Do you have like grown up conversations with him when you talk to him? How would you describe your interaction with him and what he has brought obviously? Oh, yeah. He's he's supervised beyond his ears. I mean, he's still. He's a sophomore right now, but he's like he's a he's a knack for the game. He's a knack for just I guess like experience and everything.

2:44:35So I mean, he's he's a unique player. And I mean, we're so thankful to him because he brings another like coach like my set to the team. And I mean, he's he can't really say enough good things about him either because he's a wonderful player. Is he ever learned to see before play? Hey, I think this is what's coming. I mean, I mean, how often does that happen or does it? No, I mean, that's not only as common just because it's sometimes he's loud and everything, but you know, I think that's where our coach knows is really good because he'll put us in a heart call to prepare for a certain situation. What do you say to him? You've mentioned basic family many times. You're talking to one obviously the main is the number one priority to the team, but the team's toughness has been questioned after this game last few years. It doesn't matter who you play, especially the other person at the time. You know, 100%. I mean, that he got here early in such a big impact or developing. I think you've got to have it back together. Yeah. I guess class was like a list that always doesn't have a good team. Come together for some reason.

2:45:35Yeah, it would feel good. Like you said, I think I heard last year had a like a amazing impact. Spuceless as a person, but yeah, I mean, it would feel pretty good. Both of us in the same class that happens to stand kind of in front of them. It's a bit like watching bright hard line and stepping into his role. What do you think of his offense? I like it. I feel like he's more aggressive. Well, I like it. He still does a great job coaching himself, even though he doesn't maybe have as much time. But I'd be so lucky to do a great job with us understanding he has to do with us and the whole offense. He's getting to them. He talked about other guys. Yeah. Guys and guys. How much of an impact do other coaches make helping to keep trying to receive a room at the scanner? Maybe some of the older guys. Yeah, I feel like coach Jordan, man, the older guys, the better in our room, be a good job of stepping up when coach hard is not available. I feel like coach Jordan did a great job. People who I first back here last year just having extra meetings with him outside of our already meetings, having extra meetings with him, just learning more, just taking away from him. I feel like he's been doing a great job since I got here.

2:46:36Do you think of fresh room that would come in? I think they're solid. You talk about an RC room with your staff. Yeah, I think they're solid. I like all of them. I feel like they all can grow definitely. And they all, like, I know what they're feeling because of how I just got here last summer, but I feel like they're all doing a great job. Did you have to remind some of those guys that just because we've been here a longer, doesn't feel like we're too much further ahead than you guys? Yeah. Well, yeah, kind of. But I'm not really considering myself like a young guy anymore. Since I've been here throughout the summer and the season, I kind of just trying to prepare myself to be a bit almost. We're not really a younger guy, but I do try to be like a better and type of person to the young guys. When did that start? Three years. When did you stop feeling like a younger guy? I'd say really just, just the upcoming of the spring in the winter, I feel like I learned a lot as being in season, last year with the team. And that, like I could say, I would have a big role and just take a bigger step with the team in the office.

2:47:38So I don't want to just consider myself like I'm the more. Right. Saturday's practice seems like the competition between the receivers and the foreigners is so classy. Watch us how talented those sides are. What would have been thought of that quarterback room and the way that they battle against you guys to crack this? Yeah, yeah. It's always like that. The idea is there, I mean, they're local. I mean, it's always like that. Even when people aren't here to see, like we go back and forth and almost like every day we crack this. So, I mean, it's not new to us. It's just a standard of the I have for some suits. I'd say it was the best. I should talk around the other side. I'd probably say I should be here to take me. They both did after. Do you feel like the return game is the place you're going to make them back this year? Yeah, I do. I do feel that way. I have did a little bit of a permuterning with some of our returners. I feel like I could attack it. How much is it you forward to being in the shoot? Saturday being part of the offense? Really for the first time as a partner? Yeah, I'm excited. I'm just actually get the step foot and actually get rolling in the shoot. It'll be a great feeling.

2:48:38I'm pretty excited for it. You put yourself in the position to play. That means going hard every play. That means going through a play every night. So, I mean, he's coming to his own. Jim Miller said that for you, it's complicated to wrap up the support. But where you more confident right now is something. Like I said earlier, just playing a lot faster. I feel like I'm more calm out there. I feel like the moment isn't too big. I feel like getting bigger throughout the year and when I was hurt definitely helped me. Caleb's Mr. Fashley from Stair is kind of legendary. He's the way that I was. I think the great thing about Caleb is he's such a likable person, a likable teammate, a great teammate. He'll help any of the teammates. He definitely knows what he's doing. He's a great player. And for me, he just pushes me to be better every day.

2:49:38I think with your room being so stacked as this, you guys. I like it. Do you think that there could be the opportunity though for you guys to all see quite a bit of playing time throughout the season? Not just towards the end of games, mock up doing kind of playing time, but some real meaningful reps. I think that our room definitely has a lot of great players, but as far as playing time, that's a question for Coach Lewis. I mean, if you guys kind of have prepping for that though throughout the club camp, maybe switching in and out and really seeing a lot of one-two action. We're definitely, we're all getting reps at each spot. It's not just the just our band anymore. It's not just you're here, you're there. We're all playing different positions. We're all learning different techniques. So it's making each one of us more versatile. So you've been playing so banded too. How comfortable do you feel about strong safety? I feel comfortable in any safety spot. The more reps you take, the easier it is.

2:50:39I played both safety spots last year, so it's not really that big of a transition. What are the differences between the two spots that you have to be used to? Honestly, this year they made it so they're kind of... I mean, they're both... You have to do each thing in both spots. So like, you have to come down and make tackles, you have to come down and make tackles that adjust their own. Obviously, it's boundary and feel so that the space is a little different, but I mean, you have to do everything that both say these. What's different, what's different this camp can hurt the last camp? For me personally, I feel like I have... I develop their better routine. I feel like I'm more mature and what I'm doing. And I feel like just go out there and play and have fun. I think that's the biggest thing for me. Don't get too caught up on the last play. What have you added or what have you improved to your routine? I think just getting here earlier, and at times last year, you know, it's hard to maintain that routine throughout the whole camp or throughout the whole...

2:51:43the whole year, but this year, it's easier to maintain that because I know what to expect. I know the requirements of me and I know that the team is following. Were there guys in last year who made that influence you to show up a little bit early? Yeah, for sure. I mean, everyone is required. BIA, our standard is so high that we challenge everyone. It doesn't matter if you're going to play this year, it doesn't matter if you're going to play two years from now. It doesn't matter if you're a true freshman. You're going to come in early and we're going to put in the work just like everybody else because it's not just the starters that are held to the standard as everybody. It seems like Jaylen McLean, one kind of similar trajectory as you were last year, where he's pushing for playing time right away. What have you seen from Jaylen and it's interesting? He's all over the field, man. I mean, he runs to the ball every play. He hits hard. He's making plays on the ball. He has, like I said before, he has a lot of potential and I'm excited to see what he does this year. You talked right into favorite play you can play like 20 times last time.

2:52:45Yeah. Were you able to keep that weight on? Was it good for you to play to Gandy? So, I mean, through the season, it kind of fluctuated, but right now I've gained even more weight. So I'm at like 195 now. The plan is to get to 200, but it definitely builds confidence when you got to go down there and fill it up. You were obviously on the right hand of a play in that Michigan game last year. Just what did you learn from that? I think that Coach Preaches competitive excellence and that means putting yourself in position to make a play. And that means practicing harder, that means taking each rep, like it's that big moment in the game and that's definitely what I try to do this year. I'm going to have to spend here at OST and I'm going to throw a 1-4 with the bounce. I'm going to have to go back. Coach, today you want to have some of the fours off. Yeah. So I ended up letting our defense coordinator go. I mean, we wouldn't have gotten a whole new staff.

2:53:47So I just decided getting the chance for something I wanted to do. And I just wanted to go to a 4-1 and get a lot more on the ones. I was excited. So that's awesome. Yeah, it was too happy. It's just to, yeah, on my double teams. Are you surprised to see here from my side? I didn't know what to think during the transfer of so I think it always was. What other programs did you hear from? I heard from quite a few. I heard from Texas A&M, Missouri, from Oklahoma, Wisconsin, Nebraska. Once you've committed here, you obviously got to kind of see firsthand what it takes to make a national championship run. What did you maybe take away from kind of watching that being involved in practice that whole time?

2:54:49The biggest thing I took away was seeing how the guys practiced. I was able to go on the scout team to see how the offense did things very particularly sharp. So it was an influence on me and how I have to do things right here. Since you've been out fully in practice, not just scouting. What's been the biggest difference maybe in the jump-up to let Moller-Horr is there for you? Yeah, no. I'm just seeing everyone's practicing hard. Everyone's trying to make the play do their job to the best they can. Just to speed. That's the biggest difference. When you've traveled through all those fields, you've got to go to one thing like the sea, the depth and the potential. I would have been proud of seeing you. I think I can see that. I'm going to see if the goal is that like today. No, it was amazing.

2:55:49I don't really know. Going from graduated right after COVID happened. So you get really recruited. Being able to be recruited. And to see what that was like was awesome. I didn't see it for a while. Yeah. The beauty people I've seen for you. The player that you've gotten yourself after. So maybe you should highlight college with all that you're traveling with. Man, I see a question. Not a particular person. I just see a bunch of highlights. I see a lot of those highlights. Maybe the tweet, maybe like, you'll stop being a bunch of you, bridge. What kind of things do you have to do in the form? Yeah. Just like footwork, honestly. It's going from two gaping, just holding the edge. You know, just putting it just. So I'm fitting that one.

2:56:50Different. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm like, should you, before you able to believe from me, like it's learned, talk to you with so dear. I know you have to take on spring practice. And I did the best I could to learn from Jack and JT. Just to see how they practice and what they did. And I was able to ask them for points. One of the biggest. Yeah, no coach Johnson. Like, for me, told me you could develop me and I firmly believe that. He involved people to do that. So I decided to get my knowledge in. Do you remember where you were in the church? Yeah, I know. I was on my way to dinner with my family. And I just got a call on the car.

2:57:50Coach Jay. So it's pretty. I was unbelievable, actually. Yeah, it's great. How do you develop the development of the plant? What was that? What is the technology? Obviously it's new each year. We bring in different guys. And we have the freshman. The freshman coming as well. So it means different is because like, we all develop like a good relationship with each other too. You feel like you're is a pecking order right now in that room. I mean, one, two, three or a team. Is it feel wide open like we're being told it is? I, yeah. I'd say it feels wide open. So what is that? How does that hit you going from a standpoint? Do you feel like you have an even steep chance to be the starting quarter back here? Still what I'm saying. Yeah, I got you. I mean, it feels good because I'm. I'm going to go every day and. It's time to be the best club back to the nation. I'm going to try to do a story for you.

2:58:52My first impression was just a certain. I'm as players and they're both really talented and both really good quarterbacks. Both really smart too. So I'm excited to see what the spring brings us. Obviously, I'm. I mean, how the honestly wasn't super vocal, but he kind of led by example. I mean, I think a bunch of people follow his lead there and then will was more vocal and. Yeah, we also will also let by examples too. So also, I think it's going to help me move forward. So you think you have a vocal voice different ways of leading better show you. Yeah, what you think coach day wants to see out of you.

2:59:54I would say. I'd be more a leader. I mean, I said earlier, speed guy, your teammates can look up to. In for a few things, you can make a play. Get first down, keep the drive going, stuff like that. And also be more consistent. And I guess take care of the ball. These are pressure every day in this kind of competition. How would you describe that aspect of it? No, you've almost got to be. Make perfects. Maybe the wrong work and on point. I mean, yeah, there's always pressure. I mean, just being a quarterback here at high state. I was always going to be pressure, but. I think pressure is a privilege. Obviously, Tavians have been on campus quite a bit the last couple of years. How have you seen that help him with his acclimation? Sorry, I say. Tavians have been on campus a lot. How have you seen that help his acclimation into the room to spring? Yeah, I mean, the first guy here obviously has a new freshman. They're super like involved with other people. You start to find his voice, find his way around.

3:00:54And it's good to see him get more comfortable and more confidence. All right. Thank you. What's the key to that? Just give back. Keep on quarterback watching his eyes and don't make a plan. So how are you doing now? Like, safety's are playing both spots in the spring. Like, how are you finding that to like you? Yeah, I'm adjusting really well to that because I just. I can just do more than just like one play one to one. So I just want to. What Ryan said yesterday about how you guys have the green things up in that even last week. Anything to add all to emotional? Can you give us an insight into how competitive this spring has been? Yeah, you know, we're all just we're just women as well competitive. You just want to win. So. What have you been able to learn from Caleb down to? So, the approach to the game, how he plays, what have you kind of been able to take away? I've seen. Really just like his mentality, you know, he has that dog mentality. So I'm able to just you know pick up every single day, you know, mentally and physically for them.

3:01:55How much does it inspire you to come in last year? See what Caleb did? See what life then did and you know, know you have a chance to follow him or what's that? It's just it's very special because you know, I know I can be that great of a athlete as well. And maybe some men. What do you look out for this year? What do you need to do and give yourself a chance to get on field once here? Just really, it's the more of my notes, my playbook and hopefully just they better and talk about it. You said get bigger if you put on more weight in the last year? Yes, I have. What do you have to do right now? Home liners. How much, how do you think that will help your game? A lot because you know, it's a physical game and you got to be in and out. I was coached at Rary, helped you because I was better at saving. He really knows the stuff so just being able to take in every piece of advice that he knows he's telling the man that he's just... What's the kind of professional like? He's good, I like him a lot. He always talks to the guys, he's really loving and knows about him.

3:02:59Actually, the game like this where they are lining up quickly and stuff is your job at hand-stummy or maybe for a complicated, how can you say it? Yeah, I feel like one of the keys to victory is always, you know, communicate. You can't run the defense you want to run without all being on the same page. So, yeah, I think that, you know, I say these DB's linebackers. We always do a great job communicating anyway, but you know, in any game you got to be at the highest level of communication. I think that's what we're going to do. And you're running back. What just jumps out to you about your cup of gas and talk about your patients? You kind of run it intelligently. You pull up in other terms. What just jumps out to you? Today's a great running back. A sure new patient, a great contact balance. You really got to run your feet when you're tackling him. And you know, he's explosive and has that home run speed, so you know, we're really excited for the challenge and excited to play another great back. Rob Hall, our team is this bad smart right now. Mechrow is just up there and he says, can you meet the players who can hold coaches accountable in this program? What's that look like? How does that work? Is it widely done, loudly?

3:04:01Yeah, I think that's what's so special about our team is, you know, obviously when you say, you know, holding a coach accountable, there is no disrespect in that matter. As far as, as we're looking for ways that they can make us better and the look for ways that we can make them better. So, you know, having that relationship, you know, just benefits the team. I'm sorry. Tony, I got you already. Bill, we're going to ask this question. Come back to that. How much do you appreciate flying next to K.L.? And what does he maybe teach you? You know, to hear younger. This is being around him and watching a lot. Yeah, I appreciate K.L. You know, he came here and like I said beforehand, I'm self like a pro. K.L.A. asked him a bunch of questions, you know, what's his fun is learning as much as he could at such a fast rate. You know, continues to learn, I think you just being with someone like K.L. We just, someone I constantly compete with. And he makes me better by doing that. So, I think we're always just in competition with each other obviously. It's we support each other more than I think anyone else in the go-do. So, I think just having a brother like that that I can compete against at such a high level, with also having the support from him is extremely special.

3:05:02You're almost being fired, so you guys are playing lights out. You know, if it takes that to really an aspect of your question, you know, the question is talking about the why and who knows how the danger going to go. When it comes down to you guys having to win, how much confidence is there on this team? You're actually not in a day. We are completely comments in our offense first of all. But, I mean, as a defense, we go out there every time we step on a field in the back, and we're expected to, you know, get the stop, expect to win the game. Coach knows it's a great job, you know, of making sure that we feel that every day I practice that if it comes down to the defense, I mean, we need to be ready for that moment. So, I think we'll be ready. Every time for just one more, that's especially needs getting ready to come in here. Tony Gurman, Fakhat, Lacon with the splits of Tennessee's receivers. How does that impact your job? Yeah, I think just obviously those are unique splits and, you know, why does that a little more? And there's more space, but it just, I mean, just preparing for that game. I want to say really affects our job, but we just have to be ready for that. It's something that we haven't seen before, and I think our coaches and, you know, team has done a great job of showing us those looks, uh, to be fair with the game.

3:06:04Thank you very much. Thank you guys. I'll say, I want to say after sophomore year, that's when, you know, it was a lot of ups and downs, and, you know, even this past year, it was a lot of ups and downs, but, you know, mainly from last year, it was a lot of ups and, you know, just like let him control everything, you know, I'd say, you know, overtake, you want to control things myself, but that's not how God works. Like I said, God has a pen for everybody, He's patrolling my, patrolling my path. What is the biggest thing you see in your life? You talk to a team that showed you how to lead this game. Just like consistent, you know, everybody, it's different leaders. You know, you got the vocal leader, you got the leader that said by example. You know, it's different personalities in the group. So I'll say, you know, just, I can't talk to Edward, I talk to, you know, I can't talk to, I can't talk to, I can't talk to, I can't talk to, you know. So it just, you know, it is, you know, stay consistent, you know, stay positive, you know, everything, you know, you can take care of stuff. You made bloods last year, you know, you made your part of this defense, right? What's your sense of this defense? A couple of back, this is placing eight starters.

3:07:06How quick are y'all to make another point? You know, everybody, you know, everybody's working. Like you said, we lost, you know, a lot of good players, man, a lot of good leaders, man. But, you know, the guys that stepped up and we just got to step up, we just got to, you know, take on what the guys that, you know, left for us, pretty much it. It was definitely a good defense of mine. Good. It was a good one. It was a good one. It was a good one. It was a good one. The same mindset that we had last year, you know, this said consistent. And on our toolbox and trust in Coach Jay, whatever he, you know, we got for us. Okay. The rest of you guys on the defensive side or to Tennessee about what that game was going to be like. Yeah, I mean, we knew how important it stops. We're in that game and, you know, more so than the hit, just to be able to get off the field. I think that was the huge part for us because we know if they can drive the ball and create a big place, it would be tough. It's tough on a long day for us on defense. So, you know, I would just, I'm happy that we got those stops that we needed to get. And that was one of them. And, you know, all those stops really prepared us to have a good game on defense. Bill Romino, it's Columbus Dispatch.

3:08:07What changed the most after the awarding game and the reengineering of the defense? Was it mindset? Was it a schematic thing? What changed the most? I'd say the most prominent change is really this attitude in that mindset. I mean, we know we played good before that and we've done a lot of things. But, you know, sometimes you need a little, a little like juice and a little bit of that. So, obviously stuff has changed. Scheme has changed. Stuff has, like, attitude has changed. But I think we have that mentality that we have to, like, we have to be able to win games no matter what on defense. And to be able to do that, I mean, we say it all the time in our meetings. Like, it doesn't matter what the offense does. We should be out there and go out there and be able to win a game. So, I think we brought back that mentality and it's just got to keep going. You know, it can't just stop a tendency. It has to keep going to Oregon. You've played so well before that. And then that kind of came out of nowhere. How about you, the legal awakening? Was it how much they make you realize, okay, we're not there yet?

3:09:07I know, we had, that was a rough two weeks for us after that game. We had to, like, really, we had a lot of tough conversations. We had a lot of overhaul and just, you know, really looking in words at ourselves and what do we have to change? And, you know, I think what we've done so far has been pretty well. And we have to keep that going because it doesn't matter. It's really what you've done lately. So, we have to do that for this next week. Stephen Means, Cleveland.com. If you were a coach, how would you grade JT Snap with a linebacker against Tennessee? Snap was a linebacker. No, I mean, I give a lot of credit to, to, to Nico as a quarterback. I mean, he, he did this thing, moving around the pocket. It's not easy, like, trying to, oh, you said JT as a linebacker, or for me, how I would... How would you grade it as a linebacker? I don't know what's that. I mean, some tough plays. I mean, that's football though. Sometimes, you know, guys get juked, guys get whatever happens. But, you know, he always keeps coming. That's the best part about JT. Like, he'll never stop playing as hard as possible.

3:10:07So, we're, I'm just, I'm happy he kept going and he made a lot more plays after that too. So... You said that it's very different talking and running back than a quarterback. Just, you know, what's the main difference between having to tackle those two types of players? What I've noticed is, I mean, when quarterbacks are scrambling and they're particularly, like, good scramble threats, they use that ball fake a lot more. And it's, no matter what, even if they're passing line, it's still threatening, like, it's just the mentality, like, the... The playing defense. You're always worried about them throwing the ball. So, they can, they have a little bit more wiggle, whereas running backs, you know, there's a certain amount of jukes that they could use, or whatever moves they use. So, I mean, I think a lot of the things that we do is just trying to just treat quarterbacks you scramble, like, running backs, you know, just try to stay down because, you know, your presence affects it no matter what. So, if you're jumping for throw, you're probably going to be wrong. All right, we have time for a couple more. I think we just have one. Someone else wants to jump in, but we got Tim May. I'm in the wrong. I was trying to hold my hand up.

3:11:07Cover, what has your interaction been like with Caleb and Lathan especially from standpoint of feedback? You know, maybe between plays, maybe on the sidelines after series and stuff? Is it grown as the season has gone? And what do those guys especially bring to the table in that regard? I mean, they've always been really great, really great problem solvers. So, at this entire year, you know, our communication is strong in the team drives and everything. I think they do a wonderful job. Both of them just, you know, diagnosing what's going on. And then, you know, if we need to fix, they're always on top of this stuff. Our coaches are great at that too. They make sure that any little issue is being taken care of. And we communicate within the positions, but, you know, they really get that stuff. And one other thing with you, I'm just being honest, I thought from like the late and the fourth quarter on against Nebraska and then since then, you seem to have been a different player. Maybe I'm wrong. I mean, I don't know if there was an epiphany there or whatever, but can you describe your drive or whatever from, you know, that was a close game.

3:12:11It was, you know, I think surprised a lot of people. You understand what I'm saying, but you seem to be a, you're personally seem to be a more driven, different player. Am I wrong about that? Well, I mean, I don't, I feel like I've been taking, you know, the meetings to the field to practice everything. I want to say I've been consistent and, you know, I'm just being able to be in position to make more plays. And, you know, I'm thankful for that, but I mean, we're just really, really just, you know, me. I first went in last one or, there's two other guys that are trying to do that. How do you be that guy when two other guys know that that's what they're doing? So we're trying to be a good job. Yeah, I think it's, our room is very competitive, but we're also very close. It's only three, it's only three guys in our room. So I think it's, it's important for us to just be close, but also competitive. I wasn't even able to watch. Go ahead. Yeah. Watching you throw one of the biggest things that stands out, I think it's our quick-to-release is, you know, how much, is it you can be on the course? How did you develop that quick-to-release?

3:13:12I think I've naturally had a kind of a quick release. I've had a lot of high school hours always. I was just kind of had a quick release and I've been trying to get a quicker in it. You said the watch will end up getting to the battle last year. What did you learn from that? Maybe you were looking to kind of take it and understand it. It's competition, but also trying to get each other better. Yeah, I think Will and Devon had a great friendship, but they were all sparing competitive. So I think it was, it was definitely good to see and that's something that we had in our room this year. I just want to show you the toughest guy when nobody can touch with friends. I think there's a lot of ways to show toughness and support back. I think, you know, taking mental reps, you know, finishing out plays, bursting through the line, I think all those control toughness. It's just like, you know, we spent a lot of hours here. We're watching tape. I'm getting ready to practice. So we spent a lot of time. I'm going to get it. I'm going to get it. I'm going to stay made with my team.

3:14:13I wouldn't say that. I think we all kind of, the whole core record is held to a standard. We all are together in this tournament, beyond time and show up early. I think that's the first place to be in the tournament. How much does it cost? Yeah, I definitely, I saw that last year. Just how much, how much noise there is. But I think you have to walk out the noise and I'm just focusing on spring practice and just get better every day. We're talking to you a lot about the leadership things of that from year one to year two. Where have you made the biggest thing? Two more questions from the QL East. I would say I think just knowing where I'm going with football and understanding football IQ. I learned a lot from Coach Kelly, Coach Day, and Coach Vessel. And they've been, you know, there's still more room to improve and remember grow, but I think they'll learn a lot. Which is like to work with.

3:15:14With Bradson. Yeah, I love Coach Harlan. He's a, he had a lot of impact on obviously the offense last year. So I give the relationship and I first know what Ace of the Day has been doing. How much of your things changed and you think under Coach Harlan offensive? Much. I'm not sure. Yeah, I mean, what, what if you know this, I guess, as well? Not sure. You're supposed to say. Yeah, I'm not sure. But I would say about a scheme wise. Yeah, yeah. If you like the direction, she's going. Yeah, I like him as OC. I like him as a, it's our coach. So I think it's a, it's been good. It was a really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really. How he was that for you? Talk about a little bit of Coach Kelly, ladies, I think you're going, hey, what's up? And then Coach Vessel is still there. What does that mean? No, I think we had so much trust in Coach Vessel last year. With him just helping out the offense and I was, I was really excited to see him day elevated. And I can't, I can't. I'm really talking about it.

3:16:14It's a really tough one for me. It's a tough one for me. It's a tough one for me. How was he done that with you and how he responded? Yeah, I think Coach Day definitely tries to make it tough and practice on the quarterback. So it's a slow but easier in the game. But I think it's, it's been good. We, I think the whole product loves the challenge. You like the work? Yes. All right, Julie. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you for being with me and all the asked the pictures and everything. I wish I could get everybody but you know, sometimes I can't do it. It's too much sometimes but I mean, some people they understand but you know, I was, you know, thank you for them and all. So is there a specific thing that you want to get better at? I know you're limited. Yeah. Is there one specific area? I mean, you want to know just know getting a better understanding of the game. That's the biggest thing. I miss a little of everything. It's me and Coach Hartlan. Talk about you want me to prove one and stuff. I asked you when the proof of it as well. But that's one thing just know getting a better understanding of the game for sure. Yeah, right. So many snaps. Actually, you probably knew how much of you have you found that?

3:17:15How much do I have to be out there every single snap? Yeah, I mean, no, the competitive nature in me, you know, when I go out there and practice, you know, but you know, I listen to my coaches, you know, but you know, for me, you know, I always want to practice, I always want to go out there and compete. You know, sometimes you know how to listen, you know, just know, take a little break sometimes. So how come I caught that one that all the way? Not really. I mean, it's a long season ahead of us. So I mean, I'm just, you know, taking the day by day. You don't see many true freshmen that make the game for you. Play it in the national championship game. What's the key for you to stay hungry, you know, to continue to grow and make the best? I mean, you know, just, so do you name me. I mean, just because I made that one play, I have that sure. Um, you're after that. No, just can't get big headed. Um, I always feel like it's one for improvement. I never feel like you, um, just got it. That's one thing a lot of people mess up one for like, oh, they have one good year. Okay, I'm not saying any. I'm a no consider doing for years and years to come. I feel like to myself for sure.

3:18:15What do you know about this important? Well, cause you party, no big talk receiver, just like me. Um, no, just came in campus. Now I'm just working on my happy to see this future here at the Ohio State. Probably gonna be, you know, next one for sure. What's it like, you know, you see the national championship banner and see all the new signage. You know, you played a huge role. Uh, I mean, it's no sub blessing. No, the cell play, no. A roll and no, the night he runs out. We had as a two freshman. Um, but, you know, it's time to move on. I mean, that's behind us now. And I can't wait for this season to come up. What kind of obligation do you feel to a guy like me? To kind of take what you're waiting to show him how you work? I feel like he already got that. Well, just coming in, he already got that hard work at the quiet, just like me as I came in. Just all about ball really. Me and here early on me spending time with Coach Hartline meeting and everything. He doing it the right way. I should say he have a bright future. Coach Hartline said he wants to come up with a good game. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. How much of a challenge that you are kind of a quiet guy?

3:19:18Yeah, it was a challenge. Uh, no, just, no stepping on my comfort zone. Um, I mean, something everybody wants to see for me. Not just my coaches, but players on the team as well. We have a leadership meeting. There's a lot of people call me out on just saying they want me to talk more. Um, working on it takes time. Um, not really the guy that's talk talkative or no, but lay by the time. But one thing that's definitely working on is trying to know. Talk more and get more of my comfort zone and just build you. Is that okay? Yeah, I feel more than anything on the field. Yeah, for sure. That's definitely the biggest challenge. Um, you know, I got to say just stepping on my comfort zone and the, the in the guys and the in the young guys as well. Do you guys open with Texas next year going back to the playoff game? Do you think about that moving forward just kind of how you were taking out of that game? Oh, yeah, I think not really thinking about it. I mean, that's behind me. Um, maybe we won the game. We ended up going to the national championship. And, I mean, we see it on week one. I just, you know, can't wait to know face the great opponent. What's your impression of David Sanchez so far? Yeah, big long corner of the Corrine.

3:20:19Um, physical. Um, he got it all and I can't wait to see things he do here this year as well. What do you know? Is there anything different about this defense of the, you know, these first three weeks of spring that's a culture ride? Uh, they just passed. Physical and willing to hit somebody else to say, saying they got to really change for me. And guys still got no doing. Over the last year and a half and so I should in the year and a half. I should say, yeah, Coach, that makes the quarterbacks live like he did for a couple of practices last week. As a live receiver, right now, right? How do you think your quarterbacks responded to that over all three? Uh, I think they responded pretty good. I did not expect the quarterbacks to be live. Um, then the scrimmage. Um, that surprised me for sure. Coach Dave definitely surprised me with that. Um, but I feel like they handled it very well. They took hits. I thought that we need they needed. I should say, you know, tough enough. They're all about quarterback seeing how they handle that. Since obviously not a norm to do that. Uh, learning anything now, but it's definitely not known to see a quarterback get hit.

3:21:22It gets his no defense, I should say. Um, but no, guys, they was, they was getting hit for sure, but they was getting right back up. So command, uh, good old. How much more questions? Uh, definitely can't get better. Um, I don't know, I feel like I'm getting complacent. Um, always want to prove that. And, you know, I'm just taking the day by day and just getting better each day. Why do you prepare for this group name? In the expectations you're going to get on the next two seasons here. Uh, off the season you just had. Uh, not really focused on the espacation that I have coming up or the year after that. Um, no, just focus on spring. Spring and you know, just going to tell the fall camp and just get ready for the season. So, as best as you can go be there and I really know something high. No, in my mind right now, I'm just, you know, being a leader and just focus on the team. How much changes in right? How much you guys are? I feel like he already got that.

3:22:25Just coming in. He already got that hard work at the quiet. Just like me as I came in just all about ball really. Me here early on me spending time with Coach Hartline meeting and everything. He doing it the right way. I should say and he have a bright future here. Coach Hartline said he wants you to be called more of a major. Yeah. You should call him. Yeah. How much of a challenge that you are kind of quiet guy? Yeah, there's a challenge. Uh, no, just no stepping on my comfort zone. Um, I mean, something everybody wants to see for me. Not just my coaches, but players on the team as well. We have a leadership meeting. There's a lot of people call me out on just saying they want me to talk more. Um, working on it takes time. Um, not really the guy that's talk talkative or no, but lay by the time. But one thing that's definitely working on is trying to know talk more. Give my my comfort zone and just build it. Is that open with? Yeah, for sure. That's definitely the biggest challenge. Um, you know, I can say just that my comfort zone and the in the guys and the in the younger guys as well.

3:23:25You guys open with Texas next year. Going back to the playoff game. Do you think about that moving forward just kind of how you were taking out of that game? Oh, yeah, I think not really think about it. I mean, that's behind me. Um, maybe we won the game. We ended up going to the national championship. I mean, we see it on week one. I just know can't wait to know face a great opponent. What's your impression of the percentage? Yeah, big on corner, the Koran, um, physical. Um, he got it all and I can't wait to see things he do here this year as well. And what if you notice differs or anything different about this defense of the, you know, these first three weeks of spring that's a culture. I, they just passed physical and willing to hit somebody. I should say saying they got the really changed for me. And guys still go know doing they've been doing over the last year and I was in the year and I was. Because it makes the quarterback is live like he did for a couple of practices last week. As a wide receiver, right now, right? How do you think your quarterback responded to that over all three?

3:24:27Uh, I think they responded pretty good. I did not expect the quarterbacks to be live in a scrimmage. Um, that's a prize me for sure. I could definitely surprise me with that. But I feel like they handle it very well. They took hits. Something we need. They needed. I should say, you know, tough enough. Right. Why do you want to see? They're all like about quarterback seeing how they handle that. I'm not going to be in the North to be that. Uh, learning anything now, but it's definitely not known to see a quarterback get hit. It gets his no defense, I should say. But no, because they was, they was getting hit for sure, but they was getting right back up. So command could also don't for that. Do you want questions? Definitely can't get better. No, feel like I'm getting complacent. Always want to prove that. And no, I'm just taking the day by day and no, just getting better each and every day. And why do you prepare for this group name? And the expectations you're going to get on the next two seasons here off the season you just had? Uh, not really focus on the espacation that I have coming up or the year after that.

3:25:30Um, no, just focus on spring. Spring and you know, just going to follow camp and just get ready for the season. I should say, espacations go be there. And I really know something high. No, in my mind right now, I'm just, you know, being leader and just focus on the team. Jeremiah, how much changes is right? How much changes? How much changes? I don't really know. We haven't really spoken about that right now. I don't really know. Jeremiah, a lot of guys have said that they want a lot of championship, not taking down. They don't want to see it. It's moving into the CSAT and ETA. What is how important is that for you? And why do you think that's significant for the team? I mean, like I said, we came live in the past, um, the club, the 2014, they won the national championship. Um, this year we did it. So, I mean, we just took everything down and the weight room and everything. So, you know, we could focus on being ourselves and, you know, this our season. What do you like about this new defense, so to speak?

3:26:31I really like this game. I just really can't get into too much. But I really like, I really like Patricia and I just engaged with the guys and just, this is impacting us. I appreciate it. I see Mike that get over. I'll come for you. I don't matter to me. I just want to be on the field wherever I'm at. I'm going to just give them all. How does that old, though, maybe kind of accentuate what you do as a player? Um, just give me a chance to be closer to the ball. I get to just two more. She showed that I can do more of them. It's being outside, I could be inside as well. So, it's just being closer to the ball and showing I can do different things. I just really coming on. It's comfortable to get better. It's technically getting better. You just getting better every day on all the young guys. I think they're all just they all coming along. We're all at the same level as the talented and the best talent for the country. I think we have a lot of times we're going back to the country. I thought we were just the last year and as well. So, I think it really just nothing changes.

3:27:32We be out here for a reason. So, I think whoever's in the room, we just got to keep up keep that stand. What's the most comfortable part? Well, the Texas game is a good game. I like that. I like how we put that game out. But obviously the national championship just win. The clock hit trippers. You just feel like a champion. So probably the national championship, but the Texas game is probably my favorite game. I just that experience. I try to run by the way. It feels like my junior high school, my senior high school, my state championship, my junior year. And I just remember to feel that I'm just wanting to win. I'm so bad again. I ended up coming up short. So, I think you just stand on the guys and just stand on myself to do everything we can. And just go back to back. It's going to be very hard and we know that. So, I think you just got to support. What is it all about? You know, obviously climbing down there. Yeah. Just the bulls out. I don't think it's really too much. It's got to be us. It's going to be the buck ass for every reason. So, I think when we go out there and be us, there's just really won't be any problems.

3:28:33There was some talks from the leaders about taking down a couple of the banners and not wanting this year's teams to think that they're champions. Kind of building back up in there. Why is it important to do that? Kind of not allow last year to have that position? Because most of the champions are winning things. The freshman class, they wasn't on the team last year. They don't have a national championship. And most of the guys are like, I wasn't on the start of the last year. So, I want to start. I want to be a bigger regional while we winning national championship. So, I think most of the guys that we have on the team this year, we really wasn't champions. We didn't do too much doing anything. It was most of the seniors that gone. So, I think it's just on our own. Like, you really just won something for our own. Which receivers are we not talking about enough that you're out there covering? Who should we be talking about more and why? I like, I like, I like, I like, I like, I've been seeing a lot of minor grand. I like minor grand a lot. Thanks to him. He's just smooth. He's just very smooth. He's a good player. He's a great player. He's a great player. We all know that Jeremy is.

3:29:34It seems like every time we're out here, you're one of the guys. You're always celebrating plays. You're always bringing a lot of energy. Like, how much do you do better than the part of who you are just bringing in me energy? I think, I think a lot of guys can feed off of my energy. So, I just try to give my energy I can and just encourage out of the other guys and encourage even some of the older guys that's here. And probably doesn't have as much experience on the field. So, I think it's just giving people the confidence. I think confidence is the most important thing about this game. If your confidence is where it needs to be and you feel confident to do your job, it's going to be really going to go well for us. You have kind of a thrown out there for a fire as a freshman in some big moments. What do you think is the pair of you to be ready to play as such a freshman? It will. I think just taking every day, coaches are telling me, just always stay ready. I think just taking every day, just like, that you're going to be out there and just prepared that you never know when that play is going to come. And you know, like, Texas game, I played the whole second half. You've got to be ready for that. If you just sit in the center side of the club, that you're not going to play and think that, I'm not going to get in this and that.

3:30:34You can get tough for your end end. That's when you just, your mind starts playing tricks on you. So, I think just being prepared and staying ready at all times. You think about it? Yeah, the last question is performance. I think having this, his hand on the very last freshman, I think he looks better than me, and then I can't man in the spring. So, I think that was going to be a very good football player here. You just, as to just. He said he got a game. I mean, the teacher knows, like he says, very crazy each and every week playing. But you know, I can't, can't let it get to my head, I should say. I mean, just football at the end of the day, but you know, just, you know, happy business position. None of us think we could be covered, man, oh man. I mean, we're actually talking about this yesterday as well, but you know, I mean,

3:31:35that's what they do, that's what they do, man. We just go out there and, you know, play our game and, you know, sort of reason why not to play men on men. Two. Four. Three. One. I'll go five. That's good. No problem. My mom said, you know, just go out there. My dad just dominated the person I was confronting me. I mean, I'm just going to say, you know, just do what I've been doing for the last two to three weeks, I should say.

3:32:38But you know, they play men on men, so I'm just ready for the challenge. Yeah. I mean, feels good. Just say somebody going out there and playing men on men, guess how high your state receivers is something crazy. But you know, we just ready for the challenge. They said they're not changing their game plan, but we got to go out there and show them the reason why not to play men on men. Yeah. I mean, I don't really, if I be on a cover, I be on a cover. It's not really a big deal to me. It may definitely be a best of a show just to be on a cover of a game, but, you know, it's not really a dream of mine. It's a dream of mine, but I don't really think too much of it. I mean, no, not yet.

3:33:41Probably hit me after this easy. No, just no. Playing in the Carlos football playoffs as a freshman, playing in the Rose Bowl as a freshman, playing in a Cardin Bowl, not in the National Championship. I mean, it's a blessing for sure, but it hasn't hit me yet. My favorite catch, I would say we play Michigan State on the one I call over to defenders. Definitely probably my favorite for sure. Or you could go the one from Iowa, as I say, and answer, probably them too. I mean, like you said, it's pretty frustrating me having a game that I had in the Rose Bowl,

3:34:43and they're coming to the Cardin Bowl, you know, just doing different things, chasing their scheme up against me. But, I mean, like you said, whatever I could do to make, I mean, help the team win. It's not really a big deal for me. And as long as we win, that's all I really care about, and it got us to the National Championship. It means a lot. We put a lot of work in this season. We have highs, we have lows, we have people kind of out. But we hear now, we just ready to pull the show up on there.

3:35:44First of all, the one that's not so championship because there means a lot. You see everything that he bent through this year, people saying he should be fine, and just dying a third. But, you see everything that he bent through this year. I mean, I seen everything that he bent through this year, and see everything. People saying about him on Twitter. I wasn't here, he first got the head of coaching job, but I know this year, for sure, we definitely got to win this for him. It's not all in this season, I'm not going to be great right? I mean, it's a lot of people in the league, I should say, I can't really say who, but you had guys like Odeal, you had guys like Odeal, you had Stefan Dicks. It means a lot of Michael Thomas, Chris Carter, just a lot of guys that played in NFL and stuff like that. But yeah, really them guys for sure. What did they say to you? Just keep going. You got it, you netstuck for sure.

3:36:45Really, I really appreciate that. Physical defense, like people say, they like to play man, they're not changing their skin. So we're just ready for the challenge. You said the best defense we probably go see all year, and we just got to be ready to go out there Monday and just put on the show. I'm excited for Will. First coming here in Ohio State, January, our first workout we had together, just everything we did through this season. I'm just happy for him to be in this position right now, but we got to finish the job and that's the winning out of the Oman. I mean, it's pretty funny.

3:37:50Them saying that because I'm just only a freshman, but I mean, it's a blessing for sure people to even say that, but I've got two, three more years left for college. I'm just focused on college right now. I'm not really worried about the NFL right now. It's very special for me. Just being a freshman, I'm playing a national stage, I appear for national titles, something that I dreamed of as a very young kid. I'm just happy to be here, and I just can't wait to put on some Monday for you guys. All I received was just sitting on the bench and we just seeing him hit the quarterback and the ball come out. We all just got up and just started jumping up and down.

3:38:52We all decided, happy for Jack and I moment, and we just knew that that moment. We're going to the ad for sure. How does that feel to have that moment? Me and Shul is a lot going from high school, winning three-state championships, Shamanama Donna, coming to Ohio State. Just appeared for national title right now. I just showed that I've picked two great schools, but I'm happy to be here and I just can't wait to put on some Monday. The coolest person? I mean, you got a lot. I can't really say just a specific person. You got a lot of great guys, recharging the lead, like O'Dell.

3:39:54You got guys like Stefan Dex. A lot of other players will just get cut off my mind, but really, really them two guys will show O'Dell a Stefan Dex. Like they say, they play man, so I'm just ready for the challenge and just get ready to go out there Monday and just no put on the show. Thank you. We're going to go back over there. The vice-geno had gave me. I'll just keep guard first. I know the reason why I'm here. Like he said, just keep guard first and just no keeping the main thing and the best corner I've faced this year.

3:40:56I mean, I've faced a lot of great corners. I can't really say, but yeah, I've faced a great corner. I can't really put a name on it. I'm going to give it a shot. I'm going to give it a shot. I'm going to give it a shot. I'm going to give it a shot. I'm going to give it a shot. What is your dream vacation? My dream vacation is Teresan K-co's. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Good. Yeah. Yeah. That's like you want to be signed for SPAC or for like future. Yeah. I say both respect and frustration as well. But I mean, I thought they come out during triple t-me and they say you stick it to them. I thought they come out there and triple teaming me and they say you stick it to what they've been doing all year and that's playing man coverage. We just ready for the challenge.

3:42:04Pretty good group Christian Gary 29 is a great corner 15. We are going to learn more, two great guys are right there. Very physical but we are highest there and we are ready for the challenge. Other questions? I'll say just no understanding the defense, understanding the game plan, understanding what Coach Kelly was trying to get in the way. I mean just coming in I felt I progressed from my first game against Akron to now. I felt I got better each and every week. I mean, things slowed down a lot for me. But yeah, really just no understanding the differences and no understanding what they're trying to do to me for sure. I'm two guys, great. Part of the best we're going to see all year for sure.

3:43:13Two physical guys. But we're ready for the challenge that they're coming with and that's the play man on man and we're ready to go on my day. I mean, the environment is pretty crazy. Seeing all these cameras. Suddenly I never thought I'd see them alive but it's a blessing for sure to be in this position right now. I mean, we just had a prayer, prayer, prayer, prayer meeting and you know, we all, they all discussed the issues because they discussed issues. You know, we just want the work. I mean, not two and a half weeks we had off before Tennessee game and we just came out there on Tennessee game and we played with a chip on our shoulder.

3:44:13All throughout the playoffs and we go continue to play with that chip on our shoulder in that championship on Monday. Do you know how that very impactful, yeah, the very impact on my career as you say, you know, just going to his games as a very young kid, seven, eight years old. Him playing West Virginia and they played Clemson, Orange Bull down at Miami. I mean, just going there seeing his games. It was like, yeah, definitely when the player didn't stay and I can't wait till I get to know that moment for sure. Who are you? Because they really just in his own, his own little space. He's just walking around trying to get his mind right trying to get his mind ready for the game. But you know, he just gave everybody hype in the locker room and you know, just trying to get us ready to go to win the game. Yeah.

3:45:18Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, for sure. I mean, you go play man against Ohio State receivers. I mean, just be ready because you know, we definitely go come out there and know. Give our best. And I mean, they said not to change what they do. So we're just ready for the challenge. I mean, just to be able to be in this position right now is you know, a blessing, just to get here from Miami to be here. And I won't take it for granted. I'm ready to go out there Monday and give them all. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

3:46:24Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I was watching that game against was a Georgia. I believe. Yeah. I was watching that game. I was pretty sick myself because I was actually committed at that time. But I mean, we ready to go out there Monday to redeem myself and just put on show Monday. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, I mean, I just laugh. But you know, that's what they do. They're not going to change what they do just because we're a higher state. So when you got to go out there and put it on, put it on, why not to play a man on man against us. So we just got to go out there and show them Monday.

3:47:24So. He said again. Sorry. I'm just going to go out there and give it up. Okay. Yeah. We just squeezed it. Oh, no, no. 200. Me is big and strong. Yeah.

3:48:28What's the wedding? Yeah, that's pretty good. No problem. Yeah. The one I probably liked the most is the one against Michigan State when I caught over two defenders on their side line. Probably the one or the one after that I should say, or you go the one against Iowa. Probably the number three. Probably my best one, for sure. I mean, just will put in the ball in my area and I just know how to make a play for them.

3:49:39Even though somebody was grabbing my face, I just know I still have to make a play because the ball touched my hand. I mean, just when the ball and the other thing I had to make the play no matter how the ball comes at me. After a big game, I mean, they really feed us Chick-fil-A or piece after the game, so it's really either Chick-fil-A or piece. Yeah, probably Chick-fil-A for sure. I went pretty good. Everybody just speaking with their thing is going right in what they think is wrong.

3:50:39Which is a lot of the older guys, what's in their opinions on what we need to do to cut and get as a team. But that means definitely helped us in a big way because it helped us on the field as well because we played at a great football right now and we just got to tune out on Monday. Yeah, definitely got emotional. I can't really say what it really was said because that's not players only and coaches only, but it was definitely some stuff said that people took. People took and that's the reason we plan to run with plan right now. Yeah, make helped me a lot this year. Him being our older guy in the room. Me and Carl are in the end as well. All the guys in the room as well. Me just a great guy as well. Very smart. Me and make just been a big part of the reason I'm having a seat that I'm having to work because he's been a big.

3:51:39You know, older guy been there, been a lot of great guys in that room. Chris Aliveve, Gary Wilson, Marvin Harrison Jr. Jackson, Smith and Jibba. So he's seen all the grids I've been through there and he teaches us the right thing and the right way and the buck out way for sure. So you've got to get what's next, right? Yeah, got to climb with the depth of your life. You got to see the good under Justin Fry now and Tyler Bowen. What is that relationship been like with Tyler? It's been really good. I love Coach Bowen. The guys who came in with him too. Coach Dickey, Coach Johnson, Coach Fields. They're all great guys. Definitely great O'Line coaches. You get feedback from all of them and they're all on the same page every day. So it's really good. Have a moment. I'm really happy moments here just that it's exciting for sure. What do you think of these last couple of weeks of spring ball and went to workouts? I guess where and what do you think your biggest growth has been? I'd say my biggest growth has definitely been probably like a strength factor. I'd say that it's definitely like from the winter. Definitely like the strength of getting working into spring ball more. Just being more focused kind of like to big more calm.

3:52:45Kind of, that makes sense. Just not freaking out before the play. What am I doing? Just playing football. That's probably my biggest growth. I was practicing different before offensive line coaches. Do you feel like it has changed the way that you're getting reps in on a reps? No, I mean, after every play, you're getting feedback from everyone. It's great because you'll have Coach Bowen and Coach Johnson still coaching the ones or the three of the twos. And then when you're running off the field, you got Coach Dicky or someone else coaching you up telling you what to do. I think it's really awesome that we are capable to have four coaches in the room with us. So that's definitely great. Have you been strictly at center? Are you playing some guard? I'm playing left guard right now. Do you feel like there's a shift to center potentially down the road? I know. I don't know. I don't know yet. I mean, just left guard. That's what I've been taking reps there right now. As a freshman offensive lineman, this is pretty important because the development is part of that position.

3:53:50How do you as a guy who was playing on high school? How do you develop that patient's knowing it might be a year or two? I take it as like, you know, you just got to keep just stacking days. Like you can't get down on yourself if you're not playing. You just got to keep developing. And like the guys we have in our room are awesome. Like all the, you know, uppercise my glue, Josh Austin, all those guys, like they're great dudes. So it's really awesome being able to learn from them. Like watch them get mental reps of them every day to see what they're doing. And then just take that back and just use what they use. So I mean, it's definitely just like keep stacking days. Just keep working. Don't really pay attention about that. Just work. It's really the interior of the line. I just see a lot of guys played a lot of football. A lot of important football. Who would you kind of lead on? To try and learn very steady. Definitely, I'd say look one, that's a guy who I just, every practice, I'm just, when I'm not here,

3:54:52I'm just watching him take his reps, like see what he's doing when he has like a two-eye or a three-hundreds in front of him. What footwork he takes, what footwork he puts his hands and said, so I definitely say, because a guy that I never watch, close, just try that. I see what he does. Is that one of the biggest transitions to making even the jump from high school to college on the offensive line? Just the small steps in the hand placement. Yeah, that's definitely a huge thing when I first got here was like there's different forward, pretty much every block you gotta take. I think it's the most detailed position on the field. You just need, everything needs to be perfect and block. You're taking steps in placement. Oh, it's good. I'd say it's good. I mentioned that to bars, you've got a position you see yourself sticking with or is that just kind of where it's starting? I mean, I could see my stuff sticking out of the guard, but I mean, I could play pretty much anywhere.

3:55:55I think I obviously, it's here. But right now it's just been my start. You've been in that stuff, but... Jake, you had the opportunity to watch those bowl games first and kind of get that experience on what it's like to be part of a championship roster. What was kind of the biggest thing you took away from that whole couple of weeks experience? Yeah, I would say definitely watching all those bowl games and the national team just watching the guys carry themselves, like how they, like the preparation itself took it ready for that, just how they go about their days, like when they're out here practicing, how they practice. It was pretty much just feeding off the moment what they're doing. I kind of got a glimpse to see what it takes to get to a stage like that and just start acting stuff. Jake, thank you very much. You ready to roll again? Our final one from Zoom is going to come from Kurt Bulls. Kurt, go ahead. Hey, gee, I don't know if you even watched the Texas game or what to their tape, but they obviously blew a 16 point lead.

3:57:00The way you guys are riding high at the dominate, do you feel like that gives you an edge in confidence in this game? And do you think you all play a more physical brand of football in Texas? No, I wouldn't say that we find our confidence in anything that an opponent would do. Like I mentioned a moment ago, we, all of our confidence and all of our motivational, all of our motivation comes internally. We don't look at an opponent and say, you know, they blew a 16 point lead or so we're just going to give us more confidence that, you know, how much more can we do? Or we're not going to look at team that maybe just blew out another team and maybe be a little bit more timid because this is going to be a good team. I think a lot of our motivation and a lot of our drive comes from what happens internally in this building. I don't care what anyone says, you can show it before games, you can take your shirt off, you can try to flex your muscles and, you know, look however you want to look. But when you cut on the tape, ultimately what you put in this week and throughout the week preparation and what you did this whole entire year is what's going to show up on Saturdays. The raw raw stuff, the, you know, the false motivation that may come from, you know, what happened week prior to that team.

3:58:06That's all, that's all meaningless. What really is important is what did you do that week to prepare to be ready for competitive excellence on Saturday. And so that's the mission around here is to make sure we're doing our due diligence. We're doing, we're putting the work in necessary to show up on Saturday to be confident and dominant. We have time for a few more questions here locally. The cold shearant WBNS. What's it going to be like going up against Queen Ears and what was your relationship like with him when he was here? Yeah, I briefly met. It was good having him here. He was definitely a cool guy. He wasn't here long enough for him and I had to be very close. But obviously, you know, when you line up on the other side of the field, it's, there's no, you know, friendships in that moment, you know, where they're the winner game. And so I think I don't think it really makes a difference if, you know, who's that quarterback? And I don't think that's something that we're going to be thinking about. But obviously, you know, after the game or, you know, it's going to be exciting to play against, you know, someone that you know, but ultimately, doesn't really matter who's in their uniform.

3:59:09We're going to our goal is to come after them, regardless of who they are. So let Noah Weiss got some pleasure. How have you seen Will change on the field and off the field for the moment you first met him? Yeah. Will has, you know, continuously became more of a confident leader. He's somebody that I've seen take tremendous strides in his faith and his servant leadership. And it's just been amazing to be a part of and amazing to witness. I think he's just been kept continuously growing to be more comfortable and confident. And this is all of just one year. I mean, I could only imagine if he were to have two years here and what he would be able to accomplish. But it's just been amazing to be around him. He's grew to be one of my better friends on this team. And, you know, I'm assuming I'm speaking off all of the book I nation that we're excited to have him. There were been ones. This is fast. G you and everyone in your class that ups and downs and previous years you fall short of your goals. I know you're focused on the moment, but are you guys savoring this that maybe the disappointments have made this even more special even within this year?

4:00:16Yeah. I ride on my eye black every game Romans 828. And we know that all of things work together for the good of those who love the Lord. And I'm just a firm believer that everything that we have been through as a team, all the hurt, all the hardship, all the tears, all the shame, everything we've been through has ultimately led us to where we are today. And I have confidence in that. And that's why I'm not a big believer in getting too high or getting too low. When I lose games, I try to stay. You know, it's even kill as possible. Same way when we win games because I ultimately just have the faith and the ability to know that the Lord is working all of these things together to make us better. So these moments, I think through hardship, I believe that makes people closer. And so I think as a result of the things that we have been through, you're looking at a very tight knit team. And so I'm just excited for what the future holds for us. And you know, like losing a game is not a crime. It's just a disappointment. But is that the kind of pressure that you guys feel here that when you lose, it's not just a loss. It's shame.

4:01:22Yeah, it's important right here. It's not especially at the Ohio State University. From the time that you sign up here, you know exactly what you're getting into. And our coaching staff does a great job of making sure when it's time to, you know, after you go through a whole spring, summer and off season. That by the time we get to game one, you know exactly what you're up for. And so losing is absolutely unacceptable around here. And there can be a bit of shame to maybe even show yourself in public because of a loss that you've had. But again, my point being is that despite the things that we have been through, I'm a firm believer that there has to be a certain amount of faith that you have trust that all of these things are working for moments like this. And you know, even in my, I don't know how this might sound, but even in my personal life, regardless of even what happens in the future from today moving forward, I will continue to keep the faith that it's working for my good, whether it's making me a better father one day in the future, a better husband one day in the future. However, that may look, I believe in how the faith that the Lord is working all things together for the good of those who love him.

4:02:23A couple more questions. Do you have any Birmingham podcast? Yeah, I'm starting to go down the road. I was just going to ask about it anyway because the transformation you as a person. So I think obviously everyone. Can you imagine yourself three years ago, the person you are now and now leaving, why I say whenever it happens, whether it's one week or three weeks from now? Like with the lights in your living here, is it something that you would have ever imagined about yourself? No, no, I think there's, I think what has taken place in my life and the lives of other people on this team. And I know that this I'm here to talk about football, but it's a true testament of the Lord that I serve. He's taken my heart and he's made me new. His word promises that he'll take your heart of stone and make it a heart of flesh that he will soften you and making you more into his image when you take on your cross and know him. And I think that's exactly what has taken place in my life. And just when I look back on my journey and the things that I've been through, even that question that you just asked me, it kind of made me a little emotional just because when you said that for whatever reason, I just thought back just some years ago when I, when I headbutted that guy from Team North and just the amount of public ridicule.

4:03:39And I know that I received from that and the anger that I've received from that. And you know, that's just one thing that was blown up big, but there were other things that were going on that maybe like that was a behavior pattern that I maybe I had. And I just look at what the Lord has done in my life and not just myself, but other guys on this team. It's just been amazing to say the least. And I'm able to stand here confident and say the things that I do because of the revelation that he has given me that he is true and that no matter what happens on this field. That there's a place that I can call home with a relationship with him. It's an interesting juxtaposition of you were on the way to being like the bad example. So like, don't, here's a guy with all this opportunity and took this path and you took it and changed it. And I just, I just think it's fascinating. But we don't talk to all of this. No, man. So were you suggesting that you will you know five or six years? No, not at all. No, no, no, man. But you're absolutely right.

4:04:43And again, I say it again and I emphasize it that it's just a true testament of Christ. And I just encourage everybody that's even, or they're in the room or watching it, that if you may feel like you're that protocol, you're that one who's felt like you straight away too far. And there's no way that a Lord can forgive the Lord that you're talking about can forgive the things that I've done. I just want to encourage you that there's no sin that you've committed that can outweigh his justice and outweigh his grace that he has for you and the love that he has for you. And so I think there was intentional the things that I went through to get to where I am now to maybe shine that light on somebody else. To watch from Columbus here. Joey Coffin, Columbus, this path. Texas is past defense just to go to living big plays and getting interceptions. What stood out about that back end when you watched my film? Yeah, I think just for a couple days of how to watch them on film, I think top to bottom, they look like a pretty good team.

4:05:44It looks like they do a good job all the way around. They look again, they look good, but these are the moments that you live for. These are the moments that the reasons why you come here to a house date. We preach all the time to like when you come here, you play for games where you play against someone we call these matchup games where you're almost playing against yourself. And when you're playing against yourself that means you're not just going to be bigger, you're not just going to be stronger, you're not just going to be faster. And so the question comes down to, well if I'm not bigger and stronger or faster and we kind of look the same, then what's going to make me win? And I think ultimately the answer to that question is all the intangible things that you work on throughout the season. The things that kind of you can't really see on the outside. The grit that you may have in your heart. The distance that you're willing to go to win the game. The skill that you have acquired throughout the season. All of the intangible things are going to be on display this weekend and we'll see either them or ourselves who is put more into the intangibles to win these kind of games. Any final questions? Tim Mayn, Letterman or?

4:06:46Keep in speaking here. Gee, I'm just saying of other teams I've covered in the past, really good teams and stuff. I had one guy one time tell me there was almost like a home in the background when you're in this building and stuff of like work being done and things like that. And you kind of, you have a feel for the spiritual aspect of this team also and stuff. Do you feel that special home or where we want to call it about this team at this moment? Without a doubt, I said it a few times in an interview post game and I'll say it again. There was a moment that we were able to share after coming after that loss against team of North. We had a player-led meeting where we were able to hash out some of the differences what we think is going wrong. There was just a moment to be very vulnerable with each other as brothers. There was some frustration that was going on and ultimately at the end of it in this room actually. We stood in here all 100 plus guys and we locked in arms. We put arms around each other. Actually, when we looked around in that moment, there were actually a few guys that were even tearing up just because of the powerful moment that it was and we were able to pray together.

4:07:51And I think ever since that moment moving forward, I wouldn't even say it's just from that moment. I kind of knew all along, but I believe that there's something very special about this team. And I think people are getting ready to witness the special ability that this team has. I've received many, a lot of ridicule and coming after losses of just how people may say things like they, I miss real football players. I'm tired of these Christian athletes on the field. I miss the real gritty football players and I think here moving forward, people are going to be able to witness the strength of the Lord that we serve. Your day is over in my mind, Karrist. Toughest team wins bottom line. Yes. You feel that in your heart too. The toughest team finally wins these games. Yes. Yes. I think, let me, there's an accumulation of a lot of things. There's being tough, having discipline, not getting dumb penalties, having great technique. You know, again, when you get in these matchup games, it's all the intangibles that you can't really see.

4:08:52I'm not just going to walk out in the field and just have confidence that I'm bigger than them and I'm stronger than them like we can and maybe some other games. That's just not how it works. And so it's going to come down to all the intangibles. Am I more disciplined? Am I not going to hold on this play? Am I going to make the catch when the ball comes to me? Am I going to uplift my teammates? Am I going to be positive when we're going to be at Cancer on this team? You know, all those little things are all what goes into winning these kind of games. Like you mentioned toughness. And so we hang our hat on that and that's the goal is to go out there and be tough and put all these things together and get a win at Down in Texas. Thank you very much. Thank you guys. We're gone. You know, he didn't even bang in. The next step, you know, after your practice, you're most likely starving. And so, you know, I feel like I kind of like feeling myself a little bit more. I normally go to see the solid with a little bit of ranch. I go with a bison burger. You know, it's kind of not the same as a beef patty. It takes off. Like I said, calories off your diet. It's definitely upside-bite. Then I normally wrap up with grilled chicken, mashed tails and broccoli half the time.

4:09:53You know, it's like when I go to my pre-workout foods. I try to eat some pretzels. You know, there has a little bit of carbs on there. So it gets my body started. I know everybody's different, but for sure works out for me. And then after I don't just do a shake, I feel like I took a diet too full before lunch. So I definitely just do a shake, you know, after practice or after live, you know, just to make sure, you know, getting a protein and just getting everything back that while I swear I'm working out. All right. It's time for some rapid fire questions. Do I care about macros? I try to, you know, you're supposed to eat brown for me. It's like 2,500 to 3,000 calories. And so I definitely try to make sure I'm accumulating them every day until, you know, how much I need this day and that day. Because you know, sometimes, you know, my appetite's kind of different depending on how I'm on my days. My favorite carbs, for sure, I can eat one of my favorite foods is french fries. And so, you know, it kind of definitely plays a hurt in my diet. For sure, breakfast, you know, it's my favorite meal. So, you know, it's the easiest thing to make. If I did my piece of crust anything, it had to be cheese or, man, I thought you can't go wrong with either one.

4:10:59I eat in bed, yeah, I do. You know, I'm a big guy, you know, I'm not a friend of a human like before. From where I'm at, I'm all talking about it, but, you know, you do the other thing. When I drink taco, I think it's just normal bread tacos, you know, it's pretty good. I wanted to say this guy is the protein and my pain, you know, sometimes it gets just a little gritty and, you know, once she makes it that well, I think it really helps out the shake a lot. I just want to say, just work hard to stay dedicated to whatever you're doing. Everything's not going to be all right sometimes, but, you know, it's going to be all right after time. But, you know, it's going to work out of there. Brotherhood, they don't let nobody down, they always got each other back. So, I mean, it's a new team now, so, you know, we got to build that chemistry with each other, you know, just get tight. And I feel like when I was there for that playoff running and I practiced, when they were at the National Championship, you know, I just got to watch, you know, how guys are, you know, real locked in.

4:12:01They're close with each other. They're not letting nobody slack off. And, you know, I feel like we had the opportunity to do that with this team now. How did you handle that first lock? That first lock, you know, it kind of got to me. It was the IGB, you know, he, you know, he let me hear. So, after that loss, I was like, nah, I can't let this happen anymore. Because it's like, now it's not high school where you used to have 16, 16 years old. And if you lose, you lose appearance. Nah, if you lose, the coach will see that. So, and they're going to see how you respond to it. So, I feel like I had to, you know, open my eyes, I had to go and lock them. Yeah, I can't let this happen anymore, you know. So, I got to go up and, you know, these guys are counting on me too. So, it's really important that I don't lose. If you hadn't described yourself as a competitor, how would you do that? I'm a great competitor, you know. I like winning. Who doesn't like winning? So, I mean, winning is, it's in my blood. You know, my parents taught me that at a young age, you know, going out there competing for anything that you want. And I feel like if you can go out there compete for, you know, as years. And if you compete for it all the time, who's going to take it from you?

4:13:02So, I mean, I'm a good competitor. I'm always going to go out there and try to take what's mine. And if it's out there, then anybody can have it. And I'm going to be the one to go get it. There's some roles in your room, obviously. Are you a talker? What would your natural resources be? Yeah, I mean, it could come out on me, you know. But I don't really, I really know my game, through the talk for this part. But, you know, if it gets there, it gets to that point where, yeah, I can bring it out. Because, you know, regardless, I'm not just going to let nobody just come out here and just, you know, catch balls on me. So, if I'm having a good day, when I'm consistently getting TPUs, yeah, I'm going to talk. But, you know, being in that room, you kind of got to talk. You know, the Jermaine, you got IGB, you know, those real talkers in that room. So, it kind of makes you want to bring it out. And, you know, when you bring that out, that just brings energy out on the whole defense. And when you got the whole defense clicking, I mean, you can see what happened. Is there anyone that's kind of over the competition in that? It was during the winter. We were doing, you know, just stuff on the field. We were just having the time on the field. Just a lot of competitions. So, I mean, he just kind of, it was a day where, you know, they had us going up against just the freshmen.

4:14:05And then they kind of threw us in there and fired against the other guys. So, we had to, you know, we had to wake up and, you know, we all kind of lost. And then we all kind of, like, we all kind of came to get that professional group, like, what are we going to do about this? Because, you know, some of their kind of nights to step up in those roles. Yeah, come here, welcome to college. Yeah, definitely, definitely, definitely, my welcome college moments. You know, you know, just showing that, you know, it's real now, a metal high-oh-state. I'm not in Houston, Texas, no more in my school. Far from my family, you know, I got to wake up, I got to grow, I got to mature fast. And, you know, I just got to get ready for the next level. You've mentioned high school a couple times. How did, you know, grow it up very in Texas, playing at that level. How do you feel like that helped you prepare a real high-oh-state? I feel like it prepared good, you know. I feel like I went to a powerhouse in Texas. We obviously ran the Houston area, you know. We've been running the Houston area for a long time now. And I feel like, you know, we're a real college program. We live just like these guys who do the same lifts. You know, the level of ball I play, the highest level of ball in the Texas 6A. You know, we're going against guys like Dunkin' Bill, no college, those top schools, you know,

4:15:06receive a decoy, and where I go against them. I want to get some three times in my career. So I mean, those that really prepared me for this level, you know, coming in like, okay, this is not where it's a little school where, oh, they don't believe that I can come here and make an impact. I can't come from big schools, so they're counting on me to make an impact. Because, you know, I think, I mean, everybody would say Texas is one of the highest football players in the country. You know, they go as floated in the Poly Georgia. So I mean, they're counting on me to be ready and that level of ball prepared me real, real well. How'd you do against DeCory? You know, it was when lose, when lose. I went to some, he lost some. So I mean, it's getting better, I'm shopping higher. Because, you know, he's the top receiver, obviously, in our class. You know, I feel like he's going to have a good impact at Oregon. So, I mean, it's just, it's just, it's just, just, what's going to happen next? Looking forward to seeing him again? Yeah, definitely, definitely. I, you know, I plan on planning against him. We don't, we want to see him this year. Hopefully we see him in the big team championships. So, you know, I, I want, I want to rematch him.

4:16:07DeVa, you committed super early in the process, six months after that. You shut things down when, quite frankly, someone of your caliber didn't have to do that. You could have, you've seen kids play the game a little bit longer than that. But you chose to not do that. It's kind of a lot getting here. Why? You know, because this was, this was, this was where I felt, this was home. You know, I didn't really feel like, you know, standing Texas was a good thing for me. I didn't, I didn't feel like that was home for me. Up here, I just felt like it was home. You know, because of law, it was day, you know, they're making it, you know, making me feel important up here. And then, you know, like you could ask, because what, how many times I came up here? Do I, my high school career, I came up here 13 times. So, it got to the point where I was knowing the guys on the team. I had the numbers and stuff like that. When I come up here, you know, I don't got to always build the coaches. I can go chill with some of the guys on the team. So, it's just, just me, you know, knowing what I want to play in my college ball at, you know, knowing where I felt like it was home and day. You know, it was also my parents too, you know. My mom being, you know, feeling safe that, you know, I'm up here, you know,

4:17:08I'm handling the business and not having to worry about me when she goes to sleep. Playmakers in position to make a great play. So, I'm excited to be able to play in this offense, especially with the playmakers around me and see what we can do this year. You talk a lot about the yards after the catch for the soft fence. Just important is, for an offense, to have that in general nowadays, when you were hit by the best offense, it's in the NFL. If you think how that is, how necessary is that to have that to be in top line? It comes along with the scheme or along with the playbook, you know. Like I said, the West Coast offense brings a lot of opportunities. You've got to playmakers to make plays, get to playmakers in space. And I feel like he's doing that. In OTAs, we did that a lot. And I'm excited, like I said, to be able to play in space, be able to play in open holes and a defense and make plays after the catch. Chris, is it really, when you make a catch and you're trying to make the determination of going forward to get some yacke or not having a necessary hit?

4:18:09How do you make that calculation, when it's worth it? Just all feel really, just seeing, where you can really see a pre-snap from the coverage post-snaps, see what they do, what the defense does. You can really feel the defenders around you. Like I said, if you can see three or four people around you, you can really do so much. But like I said, a lot more space with his offense, a lot more holes in the defense that you're trying to get the playmakers into. So I'm excited to be able to work with that. You can't really do it as much in practice, you know, you're not going to get hit. But more pre-season and first couple games, I'm excited to see what that looks like. Can you pick a bump, she's an extension? I'm excited, man. Like I said, from jump, he's a special player. You don't really get that so many players like him that's so quick, so fast, at least speed, and I ain't got run routes too. So I'm excited to see what he does in the future,

4:19:09but I feel like that's the least they can do for him this year. How do you think he would get the help of it for another? It's just speed, man. You can't teach speed at all. Just having us on opposite sides, even playing both sides. It's just speed down the field. He could run 15, 20 yard end breakers, out breakers. And like I said, you're going to have to play two safes most of the time, or you can run the ball, you can get underneath or else. It's going to be a great compliment to the offense, so I'm excited. Chris, you said you hope this new offensive put the play makers in the position of that place. What about you specifically? What's an area where you think you'll have more opportunity than face your game? It's a lot of areas that you can see to look at, to improve my game, but yards out the cases are one I'm looking forward to. Just more opportunities with that, more space. Just to showcase my speed and my ability with the ball.

4:20:09I'm excited to do that this year. I'm not really showcased the first two years, so I'm excited to be with the players. It's something that's like the quick game element of it, just getting the ball in your hands. Yeah, quick game, play action, more over the middle routes. It's a lot of different things that you can say that it's going to help that, but I got sad I'm excited. How would you describe the chemistry between you and Eric and his own? We're getting way better, man. I mean, it was our first year last year, so it was kind of up and down, but that's what it comes with the game of football. So we worked a lot this off season, OTAs, which was really good. And we got off to a good start these first two days of camp getting extra working, but that's going to come with time. So I'm not worried about that at all. We both competitors, we both want to be the best, so we got to do something to be good. Where do you kind of notice that difference is just like feel on the route? What do you kind of notice now that it's year two that gets more nap? What do you mean? It's like, Eric, bring you when you're just getting that.

4:21:10Where do you kind of know? It's just like, it's more than that, man. It's in a fail, everybody's good, so we just got to know each other, and we've been preaching that post-knife coverage, where the ball's going to go. Just read, what read I am, and then progression, everything goes along with that. Just being on the same page, being, like I said, chemistry is built with time, so just little stuff like that that turns into big things is going to be huge. You caught one from Spencer Ratlady, too. What are your early impressions from him? He's real talented. That's the first thing I've seen from him. His arm titles out the charts. He's a real natural feel out there. He's going to be real good. I want to see him in action, but from my first impression, he's going to be a real good player. Going back to the sheet, you talked about all the different stuff he should do. You think there's still a lot more there for him? He hasn't really, I think this is the first year being receiver two, or really receiver.

4:22:12In my opinion, we're both a receiver one, so I just be able to move around, run real routes. Feel like it's going to be a huge advantage for his saying. It's a special player, and I can't wait to see him ball. I can't wait to see him get more opportunities. You're going to see what he can do. By run real routes, he's going to get opportunities. Just getting more, he hadn't really played too many plays in the first two years. He's going to get thrown in there when he's getting the ball, or when he's a decoy, or something like that. He's actually being involved in the offense, always being in, even on run plays. I feel like he's going to be a huge advantage for him to get a feel for the game, and be more natural out there. How far is the receiver like that to the shed kind of, you know, to figure him as a deep threat level? People just think of him as a deep threat, but how hard is it to kind of shed that label or that perception? I mean, that's what life, everybody is trying to label somebody as one thing or two things, but I feel like you can showcase.

4:23:15That's not really who we are, you know what I'm saying? As it gets more opportunities, as you can see, you can see he can do more and more. That's what anybody on the team. I'm excited, like I said, and for his huge opportunities, I'm going to get this year. It's going to be a big one for the Saints. Does this scheme ask for more blocking from the receivers? Is there more responsibility? Oh yeah, for so. I mean, that's what I told you to, too. We both have to block. And I know we're not the biggest guys or the strongest, but like I said, we want to be on the field. We got to be on the field for the play action plays, all those things. So we both got to call block B-line, and block linebackers, but that's what comes with football. So we both got to take that next step in our game. Is that somewhere there's like a payoff? I thought you'd play from play action next time. It's going to be a huge payoff. Like I said, most of our office is based on play action. All the end-breakers, all the yards at the catch of a play. So we got to go in there and block.

4:24:15And like I said, take that next step and be able to be grateful for our team. Like being here? Oh yeah. So after I filled the weather out here, man, that's what I'm used to. Now using the war and then out there trying to catch my breath. It's a great opportunity for us. You get a chance to see family and friends, and also this is their football friend here. Not yet, but they're going to come by every song. Appreciate you all. Thank you very much. Jacob Ferrell, I'm very impressed with him. I've been impressed with Hunter Woodard, in terms of his toughness and how he's a work ethic. But there's a lot of good young guys that have been working really hard. Hunter Anthony and Tyree Swoleons, I'm excited about those guys as well. I've got a good young class today. You sure do, Coach. Thank you for your time today. And we're very welcome. Thank you. Thank you. So you were coaching under Bill Snyder for forever.

4:25:18Yeah. You could probably write a book about what you learned. Maybe in the synopsis, where did you learn from Snyder coaching under him? Well, I mean, just want to try to get better every day. And never be satisfied. And he was very demanding. Very demanding on his players. He's a man on his coaches. He's just very competitive. And I've said this before, there's a lot of similarities between these two programs. And maybe the personalities are different. First day, I got here. First day, our first staffman, Coach Cunning, talked about us being a more tougher, more physical, more disciplined football team.

4:26:18And that's all Coach Snyder would talk about. Those are the things he would talk about. And just having us being the toughest, most disciplined team out there. And so it was like we're hearing the same thing. And so, and that's what we're stressing and that's what we want to be. And that's what we're trying to be this year. We hear at Oklahoma State. Well, some of them, these best teams, especially early on. And that's nasty. Yeah. It's a line that got away from that, maybe some of them. But how do they get back to being like that physical? Well, yeah, I think we got to, I mean, we got to be demanding on them. And we got to, we got to install the toughness and continue to, and still the toughness, continue to, and still discipline. And, and just not be satisfied, you know, and, and, and, and just be demanding on them. What does somebody call you, a football camp? Well, I mean, I just, I just want us to get better every day.

4:27:18And I want us to, my goal, again, is for us to, to, to, to be tougher and to be more physical and, and, and, and, and to be, and to be, and to be more disciplined, you know, and, and, and, and really focus on those, focus on those attributes. And, and I know if we do, that that will carry over to us being successful in the field. It's, being, being such a veteran. How have you seen social media pack? Well, it's, it's impacted quite a bit. Yeah, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's very interesting, you know, and, it's, it's, it's, it's taking me, you know, I got a, you know, while I get used to all of it. Yeah. I'm not saying I'm great on it, but, you're on the Twitter. Yeah, but I'm on Twitter and all that good stuff and so, so, you know, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's been, it's been fine. It's been, it's been, but it is, it is, it is having an impact on, on, on, on, on, on recruiting, that's for sure.

4:28:18Yeah. The differences between these types of style of offense and we can say it's not a big deal. Well, that's a great question. I mean, that was probably the biggest transition for me was, was just, and one of the most exciting things for me was being able to be a part of this offense coach, kind of, these offenses have been the best, some of the best in the country period. I mean, they've been awesome. So, I wanted to be a part of it, but with that, it was, you know, it can't just stay, we were, we were, you know, ground and pounded and we were a lot of quarterback on the game, something, you know, and, and, but also just taking as much time on the clock as we could, so we could keep the, keep the ball away from other defenses, you know, for other, other, other, other offices. And so, just slowing down and that type of stuff. So, here was playing fast and getting guys to just teaching my guys to, you know, to get up and make the calls and get the points and that was different.

4:29:22And so, but that's kind of where I was, where I was going to, where I was, you know, hey, I just being able to, to, to resource Johnny and Marcus, hey, you know, how do you guys do that? You know, what, what were some of the things, you know, and Jason Meckenduth really helped with that as well, you know, so, but it's been a great transition. It's been a great transition. How does your job in illegal with Sean Mason, depending upon who wins the quarterback job, want to maybe work more, what is that, what is that, what's been great with Sean? Sean's awesome. I mean, I've said that Sean's got a, he's got a vision. He knows where he, what he wants and he's very passionate. He's a very intense, very detailed and, and so, you know, he knows, he knows exactly what where he wants this offense. So, I'm really excited. I'm really excited to get a chance to work with him and the whole offensive staff has been awesome. You know, Waz and Casey and, and Matt have all been great.

4:30:25So, it's really good. So, I'm really excited to be able to talk to Sean about what he's been doing and what he's been doing. It was great. Coach Gundey's, you know, he's, he was awesome. And so, it just circumstances just, for whatever reasons, just didn't allow me to, to be able to, to do it, but, but, but I'm just grateful now for this opportunity. I'm, I'm just grateful he gave me a call. I'm just, that's one thing I am very grateful for. I'm very, very thankful for that he, you know, he gave me that call. So, I'm very, really excited to be here. We need a guy like that is going to make sure the O-line is picked up, ready to go every day. I was held accountable with things or having a practice and people are saying anything and how I may leave, maybe different than somebody else may leave. You know, I like to practice at least like a legal positivity, you know what I mean. So, but, he, the energy had, would be on just, I'll hype up the beyonds, like to, so I was kind of, how I want to be, go on my, literally my whole life, I want to be on a NFL team captain, like specifically on a NFL.

4:31:39I wasn't a captain in high school, wasn't a captain in college, but I want to make a joke on those in high schools. I feel like I'm not going to be a captain like he's that I felt. But that would be awesome, you know, but, you know, that happens, I'd be great, but not either way, I want to assume a role as a captain from perspective of guys on a team visual word and get back in that way. Yeah, I mean, I can't say that, I mean, I guess the biggest thing is that I felt like I was used to in the past, but it didn't take just the first LTAs, it took training left and right once this season ended because I know what was going to be the champion. So, it's like a lot of, yeah, grips, just to get back to feeling like myself for the LTAs, and then that whole first week, but now like today specifically just changing some small things with my feet, that is it, talking about the long coach,

4:32:42about some things that I'm going to do my feet to get to that, but to sell that traditional angle that I love to sit on, felt even, I thought I felt, I thought I felt great already, but I'm okay, I felt even better, I feel like I'm starting to get more excited tomorrow now, get on my feet back, and how I like the right side and on the left side, so I'm excited. I mean, obviously I feel like in the league, whether I left or right, you're still going against Premier Guy, so obviously you have high expectations for your left and right tackle, but there's definitely like the level of energy and like the expectations definitely take the human side, because now connect the blind side, that's the tackle role, you know, so yeah, I would say in terms of communication as far as this even, outside of facility, and stuff like that, like really creating that tackle quarterback, bond even more off the field, I think has been something that's even the cool way to do it. I got a text one day, as I had, like you put it left, I was like, yeah, I've been training both, I've been training both, you know, I asked after the season, they're like honestly, you know, we'll talk to you some play in the season, and I just got a text one, depending on how this puts with the free agency.

4:34:00Then, so I was like, you know what, I had an O-season right tackle, so if I get the word, I'm going, I'm standing right tackle, I'm just doing what I did before, I'm doing that, but I saw, I was like, I might as well as trying to left tackle now, as if I'm going to be left tackle, and I'd rather do that, then train on right tackle, because I'm going to call my day, I'm going to be left tackle, I'm like, who? I was just pushing my feet, you know what I mean? So I'm like, let me just prepare in advance, I'll say, yeah, let's go. You know, I think occasionally, on third down, there would be a lot of twists, I was just like, it's automatic, and I think that was my mindset for like the first half of the season, like I didn't have to go into again with some pros, like oh my gosh, they did that. I kind of figured, okay, this is the type of rush, this is how this guy usually rushes, if I get the vibe, this is how the end is like the rush tackles at it, first year guys, we got the premier patch on, already know what it was going to be, already know, every stunt, and honestly just knowing that's kind of an advantage to, so you're not, you're not, oh, the brother twists on my side again, it was never air-d傲, but to come out the house like three plays in a row, in two minutes, I knew that L-season.

4:35:10I knew that L-season when he said, you know what I mean, I'm watching more everybody else, and he really, he really goes out there occasionally, and I was like, he's going to pick me, you know what I mean, so, that effect, it's kind of, it's also kind of an advantage in a way, but it's also exciting, I'm going to get the hardest look, you know, those are real, real reps, you know, the things, really out on our way to kind of process. And I was like, hey, when I tell me, let me know about, I'm just going to train it, I was training all left, till TAs, I guess if I didn't hear anything about TAs, I came in like, so, you know what I mean, because just like, I'm cool with training both, I would have been cool with training both continually, but I feel like anybody, any position will feel like, okay, like, you want as soon as possible, give your feet kind of settled in, your hips settled in, and you're in. Your hands, so then, a certain kind of way.

4:36:11Would it have been harder for you to work both, or how TAs? No, no, no, but they're definitely, but in terms of the development, they're definitely a lot faster, they're staying on one side, but I think having that, the weeks that we had to transition with seasons over, I'm going to like, respond. You know, I'm trying to get up, put them in the car, and wait, things out of town right now, but when it comes back, I'm going to show them to you on the house, so I've got a house that's not too far from, so I told them, I got that house, like a yellow side, like DJ. You know what I mean, so, yeah. Catches feet under them. You know, I always think, when you're in a rookie season, you're going from bowl game, I don't even know what's going to play in a bowl game. Sorry, what's going to happen, I don't even know, but, you know, personally, I just think, when you go from bowl game to training for the combine, to, you know, rookie minicamp, OTAs, the, you know, many can, I mean, to training camp, the regular season, you really don't get a time to, really catch yourself.

4:37:21You know, you understand to play book now, you can be more vocal, you know, and I think with my absence, the other guys absence, you know, you need guys like that to step up and be ready for those opportunities. What's the surgery you have? You know, saying you have during the season, what's the, just tightened down everything, you know, on my left side, because I was overcompeting a little bit, but, you know, it was, it wasn't anything that's lingers, you know. I'll say this, a growing is not like an ACL, it's not like anything's ever going to get affected again, and, you know, you know, feeling good, able to do everything, squat and heavy, with power and speed, so, you know, it feels good to get after it. What do you think of what the team was able to accomplish in terms of season, in terms of bringing guys like Russ and, you think, Randy? You know, I think they're all good acquisitions, but, you know, you never want to be known as a paper champ, so, you can't win the off season. I think the work gets done out here on the field, gets done in the classroom, it gets done training, you know, and then you see where you're at in training camp, and then you build on that.

4:38:30You know, I think we got the right guys in the building, it's just about putting a complete team on the field. Can you tell us how difficult is it to separate the business part of the game in the actual football club? You know, you always have to treat it like a business, because, you know, one day it's going to end, and that's been a job. It's not like in college where, you know, you got four years guarantee, you don't even know what that I know, it's crap, it's a transfer portal. But, you know, you have to, I still have love for this game, and I still work my tail off, and I still put everything into it, and that's not going to change, but you have to know what you bring to the team and what your values. Can you have any other way to be out there with your teammates today emotionally? Great, you know, we got a new training staff, and still learning the warm up, a little different, but, you know, I loved it.

4:39:33You know, just getting after it, learning new guys, going through the same drills I've been doing by myself. I actually like having more people around, because, like, kind of go stir crazy when it's just you and another guy, you're like, damn, I gotta go back up for another rep already. So, you know, it's nice to be up here, and get a chance to be with my guys. Can we confident, and they will get down with your emotions? Oh, I'm going to try to remain pretty neutral, because, you know, I don't want to be to be the way. All I know is I want to be here, but we'll see what happens. It's my last year here. I've had a great career here, but I look forward to playing next year. What that second surgery you said at this time was on the left side, but the first time around on the right side? During the season, left side, and that was just tightening down my core muscle.

4:40:34It wasn't the same as my ad doctor. You know, you can ask Dr. Bradley, Dr. Zuckerbron, who gets the surgery as well. You know, if anything's going to help me, and it'll make me a lot stronger from here on up. Can you say you were training with another guy who have you come to? Tyson, I've been training with him for the last eight years. We've always trained together. We've got a trainer up north, Cheryl Cohaley, who's my guy. He trained a Heath Miller, Brett Kiesel, multitudin guys that I'll respect. And we've just been getting after him. Can we do very few guys historically, 35, they paid big contracts, and who that's held against you? I think there's not a lot of history behind it. But, you know, for me, I look at as I'm not looking to be like anybody else. You know, my game is different from everybody else in the league. I like to think I can play the run in the past, and that's where I'm different.

4:41:38You know, I remember last year of my team just brought to my attention. The thing that's really cool is you watch powerlifters. And, you know, my game's built on power and technique. And those guys go into their 40s. And so, you know, that's what kind of research I'm doing behind the scenes. But, you know, we'll see what happens. There's not a lot of history, but I'm here to make history. And I'm here to win another Super Bowl there, and you know, have a great season. Do you have a set goal for yourself or how many years you want to play in the NFL? Do you just take things here right here? You know, it was tough answering that question right after the season. I will say this guys, I can't keep answering that question right after the season. That is not fair to the season that's not fair to my family. You know, but in my mind, I got three years. And I want to maximize them. I want to play at a high level, and I want to go deep into playoffs. And, you know, we got a good team, and I'm going to do my part to be ready for all those situations.

4:42:42You've played on practicing when you report to the church, or is it possible that you might hold in and enforce an issue? I have not even thought that far. I've taken a day by day. You know, I told my agent, and we talked about it. We were cool coming out here. You know, I'll be here for many. And then I'll be there for training. I don't know what the work entails, but when we get there, we'll cross that bridge. Why is it a guy who's bringing you more? You know, there was a conversation between me, Omar, and Mike T. And there are certain guys that are one-helma guys. And I want to be one of those one-helma guys. And, you know, there's a hunger and desire there. But that doesn't mean just hanging it up and calling a career. To me, I think, you know, I got more bullets to fire, and I'm excited to do that.

4:43:44What's the meaning? Last one. Can you and Russell Wilson are going to be out there with, well, to pay men in the year pass? I saw Russell's on social media, but I have an idea to see it. I like the surprise happens when it happens, but, you know, it's cool to have another watch-pating man in the year winner. You know, I think it's an honor to be there. And I'll say one thing. I won't be here. I'm just telling you guys, so it's not a big deal. I won't be here because I have to do a watch-pating man in the year thing on Thursday. So it's not like I'm skipping. But, you know, it's an honor to be with Russ. And, you know, it's an honor of doing things in the community, doing great work. And, you know, the cool thing is, as much as we get honored and nominated for these things, the work doesn't stop. And I can see that with Russ' foundation. We had an event for our foundation.

4:44:45And then my mom was quick to tell Russ, hey, we need the partners around. I was like, mom, let's just enjoy the event. But, you know, it's really cool to be a part of a lead group. All right. Thank you. And we're getting the game plan stuff, but he's doing a great job and he's taking a great step forward. Tim, we're going to be using the way that you've been building the room. The way you've kind of just established your room now, it seems like it's been like the centerpiece is not a relationship. And kind of building bonds. I'm curious, is that something that you came in with the, like, a couple years ago, with the intention of doing it, or is it something that you're like, that's kind of been cultivated over the course of your time as a position, both here and the guys. No, it's been there for a while. I've been doing that for a long time. It's all about relationship. If you develop real relationship and you're authentic in your communication and you have honest feedback and you have, you know, direct teaching, the guys that have value and character and they appreciate that stuff, they're embrace that. So, but they have to know you care and you have to know that it's real and they have to know that you're really concerned about there.

4:45:45We're being as a young man and when you get close to them, it's been a lot of time with them off the field. You could coach them hard and you can, and you can, you can say truthful things to them and then they embrace it and you have real conversation because you know, the only goal is to help them get better as a young man. Did you see computers go in those toneless and the receiver room is so far ahead of the border, we're going to kind of skew that evaluations. How's that dynamic change in these two years? Is it scooped out in the older and you've been better even more counting? Yeah, it's done balanced up a little bit now. That goes with great competition. We have the, we go against the best receivers in college football. So that helps escalate your growth process because if you don't figure it out real fast, you're getting embarrassed. So that competition, but what happened with that, I guys start competing, I guys start growing, I guys got better and now it's even up a little bit. So will you get really good work at practice today? You know what I mean? So as competitive, it's fun. Those guys both on both sides of all care about each other. So it's great competition and they all are real close. So you know what I mean? It's that stuff that gets us better that will prepare for Saturday.

4:46:48I asked Denzel here about this, that same idea. And the first day of practice actually the receivers kind of got them, was I being kind of like, would wake them up all maybe for this? No, it's just, it's going to competitive, man. They got the best group in the country that you're going to get every day. So you have to bring it every day, you know what I mean? So we got a great quarterback room, we got a great receiver room. The running backs are really good. So when you out there going against them is deep. So you have to be ready for it. And obviously man, we seeing a lot of good stuff with, with Dave and Coach Kelly doing over there. And so it prepares you a lot and it helps us grow. So why are you playing kind of an associative for green and green? What's that? It's your green or a white receiver room kind of a part of your green. These are the guys you get to play against. Yeah, all of that's because you know, that's where you get better. Iron Shop is iron. So you know, you get to see that every day of practice that helps you grow. It's no better thing to go against every day than to see that on a daily basis. I'm also near room massage.

4:47:49We're looking at to play that in the despot. We just moving a lot of guys around. We watch our practice. We have a lot of guys in there right now. You know, we pop out through a four different guys in there. Obviously the ring's old in there. Jameen is in there. Caleb miles. We have about four or five guys moving around. Right now we just try things out in spring ball. See what it fit. You know, see what things work together. So it's going to probably be some more guys in there. You know, we move it around to try to just get the right fit throughout the N and C. How it goes by time we get ready start the season. He can run any strong. You know, I mean, he's fast. Very serious about his business. He's big. It's 200 pounds. He can run. He's strong. He's conscientious. Now, man, he's starting to grow and he's starting to get better with it. You know, I mean, so we look for big things for him in the spring. What do you want to see from this spring? Keep competing. You know, I mean now he's made the transition. You know, he's starting going back transition. It's all just like I'm in your main last year. You throw him in the fire. You let him go. You compete. You go by time we get out of the end of training camp. You'll be them figured out. Yeah, I want that.

4:48:49But now you just throw it all at him. Compete. Continue to grow. Continue to learn. He has the skill set. He has to let. Now you just got to put it all together. And it takes time to do that. And hopefully you see that by time we get in the training camp. It seems like a bit with your springing kind of clip for the main last year. You know, you start to see and perform a little better in practice. Is that like a benchmark for where you want here? And to be by the middle of spring? Does he have to be in a certain point where you wanted to start clanking? Yeah, by the time you start getting about two weeks from now, that last week, you know, because it takes time because there's a lot of stuff going on. But, you know, by the time you get into that last week of spring ball, you look to start seeing the things that you look for show up. And then, you know, you get another evaluation again when you get into training camp. See if this stuff carried on to make sure we go up for starting in September. What's your assessment of growth that we've made now that he's kind of got his few under one defense? What do you like about him and that next one? He's very conscientious. He's smart. He can run. He's tough. He's made the adjustment because he's out of Europe on his belt. So now you can see he's not making a lot of mistakes.

4:49:49He competes. He's real conscientious. And he has a physical presence. So the growth has been really good and we look to continue that throughout spring. Coach, thanks very much. I can ask one more. All the guys that came back like Denzel's a great example. That surprised you as you reflect on all these guys that came back late for the rounds. They could have turned pro. No, the culture here is real. Coach, they does a great job of building the culture. Our room is close knit. The guys on defense are real close. Those guys want to come back. They have an agenda. You know, we want to come back. They want to come back and walk away with something. So it didn't shock me. But it's a good environment for them too. You know what I mean? That's when you see those guys come back. That's a testimony to the culture that's set here. Their brotherhood, their environment. And of course, they run the program for those dudes to want to come back. Because we go at it. It's hard. It's not easy. It's not easy. But what we do. So, in fact, they come back and do that. It's a testament to how he runs the program. Coach, thank you very much. I think the biggest difference from Sam and Will.

4:50:51Sam, you've got to be more outsized sometimes during the slot with two. You know, but I think it's similar concepts. Because you can do the same thing in the boundary. It's almost more like the San Francisco field in the Wilson, the boundary. So I think it's pretty similar, honestly. The only difference is that Sam, last year, I never really was an interior run fitter. Like in the A gap, you know, going A to B or whatever that, wherever that might be. So that's a little different. But I mean, I think I got some of that experience at safety just from a few yards back. So like I said, the only difference really is now just suggesting the less time. Yeah, Coach, how's it coming from where you're coming from? You have a better perspective of what's going on. Because you played safe. Yeah, yeah. I feel like I have a great understanding of the defense. I think at safety, I kind of already knew what the linebacks are doing. So now what I'm really starting to learn is like exactly like every little detail what the D lines doing. That's not really what I didn't know every little aspect of it. I think I'm starting to learn that now because obviously the linebacker got to be knowing that more. So I think what it's all said now, I think we have a really, really, really good understanding of the defense

4:51:52and knowing exactly what everyone's doing. Do you feel like you're warming up the more in the mix of the deep fits too? And that linebacker's down the side because you can drop in one minute. Pass rushes, you know me. You can actually get in some of that anyway. Yeah, actually said that. I think you can say, like being a linebacker in the play, you're almost in every play. Yeah. Obviously the play can run away from you. But you know, the safety sometimes you're just back there, playing every guest. You take two back pedals and it's a tackle. So I think yeah, a linebacker, you're in the play more. More chance, more opportunities to make tackles. Can you feel comfortable there? I mean, what obviously you're staying out like back there? Yeah, I feel super comfortable with it. Like I said, I think it's just going to be adjustment. Obviously it's different playing from a five than it was from playing from my 10 last year. So I think it's an adjustment, but I'm super comfortable with it. So any of you talk to your dad and give you any advice on the new position? Oh, yeah. We watch table all the time. I watch practice. You know, he was a high level linebacker. And I'm just getting started with this. He gets a little footwork and stuff like that. But it's good. I get good teaching him.

4:52:52Obviously coach Florida night is great player, great teacher for him, coach knows. You know, he's a super smart football mind. So I'm getting great teaching all around. You live back for everything happens quicker for you. How much did the experience playing some of that Sam stuff last year helping with this? I think it helped a little bit. It's been like in terms of physical like being in the box down on the line. But I do think the the run fit as a will and a Sam can be a little different. And like in terms like I said, like being an interior fitter, like your 30 backer, you want to get pools, like you got to go spill it. So things like that. But I think I'm adjusting well. I think I'm picking up on stuff pretty fast. You know, there's still going to be a lot of stuff to work on though. Do you feel more pressure talking to the media with your brother sitting right there? Not at all. What do you think has been the biggest change from blind backer safety to blind backer?

4:53:52I think the biggest change will probably be that 10 to 5. Because it's a big adjustment because everything's happening faster and you got to react faster. And like I said, the waist and movements. I think footwork is huge. I think when you see the great linebackers, as soon as the play happens are going, they're not taking any wasted steps or not fall stepping, things like that. So I think wasting, wasting movement and being able to see what's happening, reacting fast. It's been a big, spent fitter for being on the same team with your brother. I mean, you know you got someone out there that's, it's more than a team. You know, we call each other brothers, but you know, bloods, bloods and little thicker. So that's always pretty cool. It's always, it's never 101. Yeah, but when he tells you something, he doesn't observe that. You know, it's coming from. Yeah, I think when you're blood like that, I think he's not scared of telling me the truth, you know, thing. Yeah. You know, obviously guys here, we have tough love, but I think it's always going to be a little different when it's your brother. Because he going to keep it 100% blunt exactly what you need to hear and know what you want to hear. What's your advice on playing Niko?

4:54:53Oh, for him? Yeah. I mean, he just so I've let it, he got to keep trusting his instincts. Now, I think he's going to be great. I think what's huge for him is like I said, the athletic ability speed. You know, he bliss off the edge. He's, he's, he's, he's blissing super fast. And he's just great in coverage too. So I think something really good. I think we'll do a lot of different things. Kind of like your two hand caught. Obviously, a little different body than a hand caught, but I think he's going to be really good at once. Except for that feeling. He's, he's, he's, he's just time. Thank you. Great. Straight. Honest communication, honest assessment. The character, the value, the work at it and the main thing is the competition. You got to compete. If you don't want to compete, it's not going to be the place for you. Because that's the, that's the thing that will get us where we need to go is competition in the room. And those guys here love to compete. We sell that. We're looking for guys who embrace that, who chairs being in those spots.

4:55:56And you can take time to grow, you know. You don't have to have the, the pig mentality of problem of, of, of instant gratification. You know, you can develop and grow. So, and sometimes you may be behind a guy that's a really good player. There's nothing wrong with developing and growing and playing when your time is, is right. And if the time is right right now, is a freshman like what's your main? Did you play early, you know? So, we try to also sell that, you know, we care about him as people and try to prepare you for life after football. So, it's bigger than just football. We're going to prepare you for life, whether it's the NFL or on with a regular career in, in the workforce. We want you to prepare you as a young man and we try to sell that and preach that to the parents. With, remain having that, in fact, you mentioned, growing all these different spots. Do you anticipate, you know, there wasn't a lot of rotation among the cornerbacks last year, and everyone was healthy. Do you anticipate maybe growing him through the rest guys here with the longer season potentially? Yeah, we play it about here. You know what I mean? We see how goals by the time we get in the camp. But, you know, obviously, he's earning his stripes.

4:56:57So, you know what I mean? When you earn your stripes, you know, the hard job to create opportunities for you. You know what I mean? We have to see how it goes with all the other stuff. You know, once we get closer to the season, and we're getting the game plan stuff, but he's doing a great job and he's taking a great step forward. Tim, when are you the way that you've been building the room? Or the way you've kind of established your room now? It seems like it's been, like, son of pieces, kind of relationships, and kind of building bonds. But I'm curious, is that something that you came in with the, like, a couple years ago, with the intention of doing it, or is that something that you're like, that's kind of been cultivated over the course of your Thomas position, both here and the guys who? No, it's been there for a while. I've been doing that for a long time. It's all about relationship. If you develop real relationship and you're authentic in your communication, and you have honest feedback, and you have direct teaching, the guys that have a value and character, and they appreciate that stuff, they'll embrace that. But they have to know you care, and you have to know that it's real, and they have to know that you're really concerned about there. We're being as a young man, and when you get close to him, it's been a lot of time with him off the field.

4:57:57You could coach him hard, and you can say truthful things to him, and then they'll embrace it, and you have real conversation, because you know, the only goal is to help him get better as a young man. As you see, computers go, and you think those are still listed though. The receiver and the sofa ahead of the corner is going to kind of skew that evaluations on. How's that dynamic change in these two years? Is this group's gotten older, and you've been bad at even more counting? Yeah, it's done balanced up a little bit now. That goes with great competition. We go against the best receivers in college football. So that helps escalate your growth process, because if you don't figure it out real fast, you're getting embarrassed. So that competition, but what happened with that, I guys start competing, I guys start growing, I guys got better, and now it's even up a little bit. So where you get really good work at practice today, you know what I mean? So it's competitive, it's fun. Those guys both on both sides of the ball care about each other. So it's great competition, and they all are real close. So you know what I mean? It's that stuff that gets us better that will prepare us for Saturday. I asked Denzel, how about this same idea?

4:58:58First day of practice, actually, the receiver's kind of gone down, because I didn't kind of, but the wake of Paul made me feel this, but no, it's just, it's gonna competitive, man. They got the best group in the country that you're going against every day. So you have to bring it every day, you know what I mean? So we got a great quarterback room, we got a great receiver room, the running backs are really good. So when you out there going against them, it's deep. So you have to be ready for it. And obviously, man, we're seeing a lot of good stuff with Coach Day and Coach Kelly doing over there, and so it prepares you a lot, and it helps us grow. So why don't you go into a room, kind of an associative for free and victory? Is that? Is the associative for free and victory? Or a wide receiver room, kind of, like a part of your agreement? Like, these are the guys you get to play against. Yeah, all of that's because, you know, that's where you get better. Our shop is ours. So, you know, you get to see that every day of practice that helps you grow. It's no better thing to go against every day than to see that on a daily basis. I'm also near room besides Jordan, looking at to play that in the spot.

4:59:58We just moving a lot of guys around. We watch our practice, we have a lot of guys in there right now. You know, we pop out through a four different guys in there, obviously, the ring's old in there, the gymnas in there, Caleb. Miles, we have about four or five guys moving around. Right now, we just try things out in spring ball. See what it fit, you know, see what things work together. So, there's gonna probably be some more guys in there. You know, we move it around to try to just get the right fit throughout the N and C. How it goes by the time we get really start the season. What's your name? You can run any strong, you know what I mean? He's fast, very serious about his business. He's big, he's 200 pounds, he can run, he's strong, he's conscientious. You know what I mean? He's starting to grow and he's starting to get better with it. You know what I mean? So, we look for big things for him in spring. Tim, what do you wanna see from here in spring? Keep competing. You know what I mean? Now, he's made the transition competing today. You know what I mean? Start going in. That transition is all just like I'm in your main last year. You throw him in the fire, you let him go, you compete. You go by the time we get out of the end of training camp. You have to be them figured out. You have all that. Now you just throw it all at him.

5:00:59Compete. Continuing to grow, continuing to learn. He has the skill set, he has the length. Now you just gotta put it all together and it takes time to do that. And hopefully you see that by the time we get in the training camp. It seems like you've been doing your springing kind of click for your main last year and you start to see and perform a little better in practice. Is that like a benchmark for where you want Aaron to be? By the middle of spring, does he have to be at a certain point where you wanted to start clicking? Yeah, by the time you start getting about two weeks from now, that last week, you know, because it takes time because there's a lot of stuff going on. But, you know, by the time you get into that last week of spring ball, you'll just start seeing the things that you look for show up. And then, you know, you get another evaluation again when you get in the training camp. See if this stuff carried on to make sure we go it for starting in September. What's your assessment of the growth that we've just made now that he's kind of got his feet under one defense? What do you like about him and that nickel spot? He's very conscientious. He's smart. He can run. He's tough. He's made the adjustment because he's out of Europe on his belt. So now you can see he's not making a lot of mistakes. He competes. He's real conscientious.

5:01:59And he has a physical presence. So the growth has been really good and we look to continue that throughout spring. Coach, thanks very much. I can ask one more. All the guys that came back, like Denzel, the great example. That surprised you as you reflect on all these guys that came back late from the ransom. And they could have turned pro. No, the culture here is real. Coach, they does a great job of building the culture. Our room is close knit. The guys on defense are real close. Those guys want to come back. They have an agenda. You know, we want to come back. They want to come back and walk away with something. So it didn't shock me. But it's a good environment for them too. You see those guys come back. That's a testimony to the culture that's set here. Their brotherhood, their environment. And I coach, they run the program for those dudes to want to come back. Because we go at it. It's hard. It's not easy. What we do. In fact, they come back and do that as a testimony to how he runs the program. Coach, thank you very much. Respect to the win. So like, when I won, I was like, oh, something won. But that was the linebacker now.

5:03:00It's like it's more of a composition. You know what I'm saying? Not like, not any hits of the DB. I'm too 30 going against someone who's 205. You know what I'm saying? I'm expecting the win. So I love the competition aspect. Yeah, Cody said you came in. He said, well, he's already bigger than most people. I know. You see the cream play. Will and Sam. How was the position? I've been working on both. Yes. Is there any fundamental difference between the two in terms of both? Sam. Um, in the opposite of the sandwich more outside the box outside my backer overhang. You walked up on the edge on the tight end. Will's more inside the box. I think the biggest difference from Sam and Will. Sam, you just got to be more outside sometimes during the slot with two. You know, but I think it's similar concepts because you do the same thing in the boundary. It's almost more like the San Francisco field and Will's the boundary. So I think it's pretty similar, honestly. The only difference is that Sam last year I never really was an interior run fitter like in the A gap, you know, going A to B or whatever that whatever that might be.

5:04:00So that's a little different. But I mean, I think I got some of that experience at safety just from a few yards back. So like I said, the only difference really is now just suggesting the less time. Yeah, Coach Nelson, you coming from where you're coming from. You have a better perspective of what's going on. Because you played safe. Yeah, yeah. I feel like I have a great understanding of the defense. I think that safety I kind of already knew what the linebacks are doing. So now what I'm really starting to learn is like exactly like every little detail what the D lines doing. That's not really what I didn't know every little aspect of it. I think I'm starting to learn that now because obviously the lineback you've got to be knowing that more. So I think when it's all said, no, I think we have a really, really good understanding of the defense and knowing exactly what everyone's doing. I think you feel like you're warm enough. They're more in the mix of the defense to lineback your son because you can drop in one minute. Pass rusted that you or me. I think you can do some of that anyway. Yeah, actually said that. I think you can say it would be an online backer in the play. You're almost in every play. Yeah. Obviously the play can run away from you.

5:05:00But you know, it saves you sometimes you're just back there playing every guest. You take two back pedals and it's a tackle. So I think yeah, a linebacker, you're in the play more. More chance more opportunities to make tackles. Do you feel comfortable there? I mean, what does that, you know, obviously your dad will stand out like that. Yeah, I feel super comfortable with it. Like I said, I think it's just going to be adjustment. You know, obviously he's different playing from a five than it was from playing from like 10 last year. So I think it's an adjustment, but I'm super comfortable with it. So I need you to top your debt and give me any advice on the new position? Oh, yeah, we watch table all the time. Watch practice. You know, he was a high level linebacker and I'm just getting started with this. He gets a little shit with little footwork and stuff like that, but it's good. I get good teaching him, you know, obviously coach Florida night is great player, great teaching for him coach knows. You know, he's a super smart football mind. So I'm getting great teaching all around. The linebacker, everything happens quicker for you. How much did the experience playing some of that Sam? I think it helped a little bit. It's been like in terms of physicality being in the box down down on the line.

5:06:04But I do think the run fit as a will and a Sam can be a little different. Like in terms of like I said, like being an interior fitter, like your 30 backer, you want to get pools, now you're going to go spill it, so things like that. But I think I'm adjusting well. I think I'm picking up on stuff pretty fast. You know, there's still going to be a lot of stuff to work on though. Do you feel more pressure talking to the media with your brother sitting right there? Not at all. What do you think has been the biggest change from my backer and safety? I think the biggest change will probably be that 10 to 5. Because it's a big adjustment because everything's happening faster and you've got to react faster. And like I said, the waist and movements, I think footwork is huge. I think you see the great linebackers. Seems to play happens are going. They're not taking any waist and steps or not fall stepping, things like that. So I think waist and movement and being able to see what's happening react to the fast. It's been the big spin fitter between being on the same team with your brother.

5:07:07I mean, you know you got someone out there that's it's more than a team. You know, we call each other brothers, but you know, blood's a little thicker. So that's always pretty cool. You know, it's always it's never 101. Yeah, but when he tells you something, he does observe what you know it's coming from. Yeah, I think when you're blood like that, I think he's not scared of telling me the truth. You know, saying, you know, obviously guys here we have tough love, but I think it's always going to be a little different when it's your brother because he going to keep it 100% blunt exactly what you need to hear. Now what you want to hear what's your advice on playing nickel. Oh, for him. I mean, he just so I've let it he got you just keep trusting his instincts. I think he's going to be great. That I think what's huge for him is like I said, the athletic ability speed. You know, he bliss off the edge. He's he's been blessing super fast. And he's just brain coverage too. So I think something really good. I think we'll do a lot of different things kind of like you see a hand caught. Obviously, a little different body than a hand caught, but I think he's going to be really good at once.

5:08:09Except for that feel. He's needs, he's needs this time. Looks like and then they grow from there. So you're trying to see where they're at, but you're also trying to project where they can be as we head into the summer. Jeremy Burby, have podcast. Right. Obviously, uh, transfer for real things on Monday. In this era of California poll, how are you guys prepping for that? I mean, and how insane is it to think that you've just gone through these last six, seven weeks spring breakfast? And now you're looking at potentially another changing 10% of the roster by the end of Monday to the start of fall. Yeah, it's it is crazy. I mean, it's unique, but I mean, I feel like we have a team that, you know, has come together for a common purpose. And, you know, we talk about, you know, why, why do you play so hard here at Ohio State? It's because of the brotherhood, the love of your teammates. I think we have a good group that way. I think guys want to be here. They want to be at Ohio State to understand what it means to be a bug guy.

5:09:10They see the opportunity this season. So, you know, I don't see a bunch of guys that are just looking to run out the door. I think there'll be a couple of different situations that maybe it does make sense for for guys to maybe look at other places, but. And we'll just, you know, we'll adapt as those happen, but we know we're going to have to play with a lot of depth. Here, you're playing 16 or 17 games more than ever before. Guys are going to play football. So you might be a, you might be a two right now or you might be a three, but you could be in the college football playoffs fighting for, you know, a championship and be the guy that we're counting on. So, I just think this is, this is a different and unique time that we're stepping into. So, when guys are looking at the depth chart, I don't think it's as important as it always has been in the past. There's going to be a lot of football played next year. And we're going to roll guys and play depth, especially in the first half of the season, because we're going to need them in the second half of the season. Dan, 11 warriors. Ryan, what's the quarterback comment? Have you started to narrow it down at all? And has anybody started to separate from the others?

5:10:10No, I don't think we've narrowed it down. But, you know, you're seeing guys make certain plays and certain things that are showing up in practice. As we start to get into some of the move it stuff and you get in the situational things, you're starting to, you know, just see commonalities. A lot of guys, you know, these guys bring great things to the table. Each guy brings, you know, either an experience or a skill set that's different from the others. The good news is they all can move and that's certainly made an impact on the run game. And the past game, you know, there's good things there. There's still things that they're improving on. Yeah, you're seeing, you know, some separation. I wouldn't say that they, you know, read a name of starter and anything like that. But there's been good competition and guys have made plays. But I think ultimately we're looking for is the consistency over time. How much factor is Julian in that competition as a true freshman? He's in the mix. He is. Yeah, he's, you know, chip really rolls him. It doesn't matter if the ones, twos and threes.

5:11:14You get an opportunity to see what guys look like. I think sometimes maybe when you're young, you know, you get the three work and sometimes you can look at a mess out there. And so this has been a really good, you know, sample size to figure out where guys are at. But Julian's been competing his tail off and he'll continue to do that. And he's got a very bright future. He's got to have a really good summer. Hey, Eric, leave it dot com. We just follow him up on that. How do you use the quarterback on Saturdays or certain guys are able to go to the reps with the one offense? Yes, so the plan on Saturdays to, you know, we'll have our ones out there. You know, some of the guys who have, you know, 1000 plus reps who have played a lot of football here will be in a little bit of a thud mode early on. But then when it goes over with an extra, it'll be offense versus defense. It'll all be tackle the rest of the way. So we'll be smart about that. You know, someone like Travion Henderson doesn't need to get tackled on Saturday. But, but at the same time, it's going to be competitive. We're going to get after it and give the quarterbacks opportunities, even with the ones in there to go ahead and make plays and we'll try to create some situations for all those guys to get reps.

5:12:21And so yeah, we'll roll it and try to give guys as many reps as they possibly can and go from there. So we've been down and reportedly leaving informing you guys he's leaving. Do you guys have enough depth at running back in the quality? I guess one of the strengths that you want there. You have to look in the portal to subsidize. Yeah, you know, we're looking for five, you know, and and so, you know, I think I think we're in a situation where we'll be at five. You know, if if we need to add a six, then we'll look into that. But right now, I think we'll be in a situation where we feel comfortable with five guys. What was your initial conversation like with Carlos and did you have to recruit him pretty hard? I'm just curious how that first conversation went. You know, he was excited. We were excited, which is I think was kind of mutual. It's unique because of where it's at and spring. You know, and that's that's a tough spot for anybody to be in. And I felt it on the other end of it.

5:13:21So, you know, he's a guy who always wants to, you know, do things the right way and handle himself the right way. But I think you just saw this opportunity is such a great opportunity for him. And I think we were probably both recruiting each other the same. Yeah. Kelly and Stephs, I mean, yes. Coach, going back to the spring game, what does that say for it to be nationally televised? Was it safe at the momentum around this program and how excited are the guys for the summer? Yeah, I think it's a great, great day planned. An opportunity to be the first ever spring game that's going to be televised nationally on Fox. It's just so exciting for our guys. And for Buck, I nation and for the program. Really cool, really great opportunity. So our guys want to put on a good show. You know, have some fun with it. And like you said, you know, there's going to be a lot of great recruits here. There's a lot of great momentum around the program and how things have continued to build. And then even that night, you know, we have an event here in the Woody of concert. We call saddle up that, you know, it's an opportunity to raise some money, but but also, you know, getting a lot done just in terms of giving back and some charities as well.

5:14:32So it's a little bit of combination of NIL and some charity work. But also an opportunity to have some fun. So Carrie Levox is here in North to Nashville, something we started last year in the Woody where folks get to actually come into the Woody, which not everybody gets an opportunity to do. And actually have a concert on the indoor. So between that and the spring game itself, after the spring game, we do a barbecue for the families here. It's a long day, but it's a great day. And so we're praying for great weather. Bill, we're going to miss this. When we asked you about Will Howard last practice, you said, you know, he's kind of long. Obviously new system, but you wanted to see a lot of growth in the next two weeks. Have you seen that and where, where does is there a peck you are? Is he still the presumptive favorite? That's, that's, you know, we haven't really talked about that very much, but his experience is definitely showing. I think that he's played a lot of football before. And I think his combination on the field of being able to extend plays with his feet, run in the run game, you know, pull the ball.

5:15:37We've seen that happen before and then be accurate with the with with no in the pocket throwing the ball play action on the move. All those things put stress on the defense. And so we're trying to put him in the most difficult situations we possibly can. Third down, third and long second and long different situations is to see how those guys respond. It's like everybody else, but one thing about Will is he's working really hard. He's in the building early, he's in the building late. He's putting a lot of work and you can just see that. I think the guys see that. And you know, another part of all those quarterbacks is, you know, what are the guys think? What are the receivers think? What does the offense align think? And I think he's done a really good job of, you know, trying to win those guys over. I think a lot all the quarterbacks have, but you know, you definitely see the hard work there. You see the experience and you see the ability. I think every practice that he's out there is learning the offense and feel more comfortable with it. Devon looked really good in the practice. So you kind of assessed his spring. Yeah, I think that, you know, he's now in the year three and a lot of the things that we're doing is still what we've done in the past.

5:16:38So that he probably feels the most comfortable out there with the offense. And you see that. You know, the big thing with him is just being, being as consistent as he possibly can and keep the, keep the offense moving because he certainly has the ability and the offense. He certainly has the ability and definitely flashes. Austin Ward, the podcast. Who on the defense is giving the offense the biggest headache this spring? Jim Knowles. You know, I think with our defense this year, you know, with with Sonny, with CJ, with Cody, you're seeing Gabe in there, our Val Rice. We got some pretty good length in there at linebacker. They're flashing. But I would say probably, you know, it's, you know, the interior guys up front, you know, they're, they're, they're, you know, creating havoc in the backfield. DBs are, are very active. You know, they're getting their hands on a lot of balls. So I think it's everybody. I think the coverage and the rush is working together.

5:17:39You know, the scheme is now in a year three. I think guys are understanding. You're starting to see Caleb really understand now. The first six, seven practices now, like the second half of the spring, he's really taken off. You just see how fast you see it. But I think our guys have done a really good job of making, you know, zone look like man, man look like zone. The pressure, you know, all those things are really starting to add up and it's, it's, you know, it's not easy on the offensive side. So I think it's the combination of scheme and talent, but, but I do think overall we have pretty good athleticism and length, especially in, you know, in this second level. Tim May, podcast. Oh, thank you, Jerry. Do you even say it, for example, where are you in starting a freshman quarterback? Do you look at him as just another one of the guys competing out there? Or do you keep in mind he's a freshman? Just kind of what you're thinking a lot of those lines, right? I think it's just a mindset for him is that he needs to be ready to go, you know, play at Oregon.

5:18:39He's got to be ready to go play at Penn State. He's got to go ready to play against the team of North. He's got to play for the big 10 and a national championship. And that's in his mind because we know the last time a national championship was one. We're on the quarterback three. And, you know, with the quarterbacks having the build to run, like we're done that a lot here. Justin was probably the last one, but he really kind of limped in the last couple of games because of that. And so we're going to need guys. So I think, you know, now more than when we had CJ and Duane and even Kyle where we didn't really run those guys, they kind of survived the whole season. You know, we're going to run the quarterbacks on this year. And because of that, we're going to need depth and so that room's got to be strong. So to me, it's not about like, you know, maybe in the past where it was like just the quarterback, we're going to kind of keep him up right. You know, this year, we know we're going to do that with Chip. So we need depth in that room. So his mindset's got to be that I'm playing next year and he's the best available time that he's going to play. You know how the answer comes in sometimes they get in line, but sometimes they line up and they want to, you know, they want to go this way, not that way.

5:19:47Yes, stuff. Is he been like that a certain unbelievable? How has that shown up? I guess not just really good. I mean, has a good plan when he gets out there. You know, it doesn't want to get his handheld. I've been impressed with his approach. And like I said before, he's got a really, really bright future. I mean, how fast he gets on the field will be just, you know, kind of down. It's just to clarify what's down. It's easy told you his plans are to transfer to the field. Yeah, I think, you know, we're going to keep all those conversations private and kind of wait till, wait till next week to talk about it. Yeah. The land is the podcast Kings of the North. Right. He said, um, come ahead and spring ball that you know, you have to sort of figure out the right side of the line, but you felt confident you had the answers in house. You still feel that way. It's the spring ball. Absolutely. I think we have to look at everything. I don't, I'm not sitting here and say one way or the other. I think the, I like to watch the film today. We did a couple moving some guys around and see how that went.

5:20:48And then see how Saturday goes and then kind of go from there. But I can't sit here and tell you that, you know, I know that that right side solidified right now. So I think we got to keep looking at all options. You said you both tackles Josh's. I guess I have had improved just what specifically I've seen from those guys that they just. Um, I think it's just overall production. Um, you know, you just seeing, um, especially in past protection, you just see those guys in better position. Um, you know, against Jack and JT and can you out on those guys, you know, they're Mitchell, Kaden, you know, they're just more consistent blocking them. So, um, whether it's. But first off, I think Josh. Friar has really changed his body, you know, his body fats down. And that's something his diet and everything. We really hammered this off season. And so I think that was significant and how, how quickly his feet are moving because he's very sharp and what he does and he's bending better. I think for Josh Simmons, you know, that was never an issue, although he is in great shape. I think it's more of the experience and understanding of the offense, playing more football and more of the mental part of it.

5:21:59So I think both guys have benefited from another year, but both for different reasons. Stephen, it means Cleveland, you got a different. Variations of this question before, but you got a quarterback room with just a wide variety of different descriptions of guys from various, parents, guys to the Julia who may be a show up and look a bit better. The most freshman quarterbacks typically show up. Yeah, you've also got a season that's as you mentioned, a little bit longer, a little bit different, maybe a more favorable schedule this time around. And we've seen other programs do this before, but in your philosophy and picking a starting starting quarterback, what matters more, the older guy, maybe a little bit more experience or the younger guy who might be flashing some upside early on that you might be able to tap into at some point later down the line. Well, I think the good thing for us is that we might have both, which is great. So if that's the case, then we'll play, we'll play those guys. I think that's what the season offers the way that you look at the season. And we're going to do whatever we can to win games. That's what it comes down to.

5:23:00But we also know what our goal is at the end of the season and what is going to put us in position to do that at the end of the season and making sure we have two or three quarterbacks that can go help us reach our goals. It's going to be the number one thing. So how do we do that? We got to figure that part out. I don't think we're an area yet. Right now, the focus is just getting these guys many reps who can't evaluating them, but as we head into the preseason into the into the season, you know, that probably means getting guys reps on in the game so that they don't get put into a situation where they haven't played a lot of football before. You need to maybe in the past, you know, I think about where Lincoln was in that bowl game. He was not ready to play in that game. He would tell you it wasn't his fault. You know, just, you know, Kyle had played and then we in the portal and then you know, Devon went to was in the bowl practice and got hurt so early and then you know, he kind of got thrown into that. With this year, we can't be in that situation because we know we are going to run the quarterbacks this year. We have to build depth in that position. What you in the situation, maybe you're more open to maybe putting the guy out there and meaningful snaps and once the season rolls around just for the sake of not being thrown in that situation.

5:24:05We haven't talked about that, but that very possible could possibly could happen. Yeah, if that's what we're trying to do. That's a ways away, but we'll kind of cross that bridge and we get there. But I think that that's certainly something that's worth discussing. Andy Baxter, Blood and Monroe. Right. What have you seen from James people so far this spring and he's only prepared to be right away. Yeah, I think both freshmen and TC Kathy, all three of those guys. So Sam James and TC have had very good springs. I've been very impressed with their approach. I got a chance to spend time with them for those couple of weeks, which was great to see the way that they go into meetings, the way they answer questions, their attention to detail. I'm looking to see them run in live situation on Saturday because I think all of those backs have talent and all of them can catch out of the backfield. All of them are really good in protection and they can run outside and inside the tackles. So first time they get tackled to be on Saturday, but all three of those guys have done a nice job.

5:25:08And then the training quenchon have been really solid, but those three guys to see them go play in the game will be fun. And an opportunity for everyone to see those guys with the ball in hand. Andy, back to her. Dylan Davis, Dylan, because guys, I'm sorry, we are only guys trying to adjust a couple more. You mentioned that how quickly Jillian gets on the field is going to be up to him. What are some of the things you need to see from now to through the fall camp that may push him on to the field? Is it just a matter of adjusting the speed of the game? I guess where does he not measure up the will in the debon right now?