Press Conferences (Ethan Onianwa) Elite Edition September 2

0:00So how did the visit go? Oh, it was great. Yeah, I loved it. The staff here in Catelle has really good family ties and strong connection. What were some things that you were looking for on your visit? Whether it's talking to coach Norval, stewing, I guess what was important to you on this visit? So, I mean, for me, I mean, this was kind of a big decision for me where I decided to like not fish my degree of rest and then from the courtroom to the side. And I find the place where I can develop the most. And then just to go to a wine coach, you know, final place where I can face a good competition, not only in games, but also in practice as well. And probably the most important is just finding a good guy that are dedicated to winning, dedicated to it to being great because I mean, we have a team of me guys who aren't serious about wanting to be great. He's wasting time and money, so I mean, to the problem, I'm not big green with the culture being kind of important. Being around the coach of hand today, what was kind of the things that you noticed around

1:04him, just whether it's how he is or just what your thoughts of him being around him most of life? He's an incredibly detailed guy. Yeah, I got that for sure from him. It's like Washington Phil, like he broke down, just like some gang fun with me, and he also kind of broke down. And the guys that he's coaching the past that are similar to me. And you know, it was a, it was just show how good a coach he is. Getting no coach from a bellgrain this experience, what has happened? It was good. He's a very passionate guy. And I mean, I loved that. But a head coach should have that and, you know, you can tell how much he cares about what the guys want to program about the psyche being dedicated, being driven to win and to succeed. What did they tell you about the opportunity here in SCARZ, meeting a player of your sort at a position? Well, I mean, they see me at a left tackle and it was, I'll be a good fit, you know, coming in. I was a coach, no golf, stress, you know, and also the other great, I want to focus

2:04on blind men in the portal that have lots of risk of being able to say that Phil lives on now, be a good fit when a coach is, such as what you guys do. What's kind of the ultimate feeling now about FSU? Have you solved this big experience with them? What's kind of the feeling about them? Yeah, it's definitely a good feeling. It's great. I don't know. I'm glad that I was actually able to come down here because I mean, the Zoom calls and the phone calls are nice, but, you know, in person is a lot different. And this is a good to know the staff here, a good to know coach here, a coach, but all of it is a great experience. Who else have you checked out during this process? What are their schools? Well, I've talked to some other staff, talked to a house in Iowa and A&M, really just, yeah, that's what I've been, I've tried to keep the short-cathed and try to keep the sweet, or really need to be 20 bucks a schools. I mean, that's not the main priority. Are you entering decision mode now or do you intend to take some trades in Army January? Yeah, I'm going to be one of those.

3:05I'm going to be one designed. Sometimes I'm focused. What all? For those of us who have seen the mid with the highlights of the mid with kind of your strengths and areas that you're looking to improve. So, shrink wise, I would say probably just move in. I mean, I'm so going to go short. I'm a big love for a 300, a 400-top-top guy. I have a big son. I quite, I've never done an off-thul. It's like I've done to get my stances. I think you could be so big, and it's going to be able to go to other people. But at the same time, also, doesn't need to insistent and can't place a bunch on a forward you in general to technique. I mean, if you're a big strong guy, you can only do so much. You don't have to write to any of these. That's a big reason why I want to have a good online coach for the world. So, we'll find out that it needs to be precise with everything. Yeah, that's kind of like what we're doing. That's a little tricky. Cool. I think you mentioned that Austin Sheriff of Los

4:05was a dying bus guy again. What have you seen from him, the soft season? How soon did he kind of flip that switch we saw? Are there these guys with Jive about what he wants to do in 2025 or go down the last season? Yeah, I think Austin's always had a good demeanor about him. And I think he's elevated that even more. I think it feels like there's been a lot of police that he's instilled in himself to see himself do that over time. And really he's just been really impressive. He's one of those guys, in my opinion, that he's just don't talk about a lot because he does everything right. When you're playing online, you're always at the point of the attack. So it's easy to get exposed. The people are talking about you a lot. It's usually not a good thing. And Austin is the complete opposite. So we'll make sure to identify all these great things he's doing. And he just continually does his job at a high level. And I expect that to continue. I expect that to develop more and more into a leadership role, which we already feel.

5:07And be a mainstay and bring along that online group, which we're excited about. So Austin's a big topic. Brian, I think it was around the same last year where people were talking about Brandon being such a big leader behind the scenes. And I know he didn't play maybe Starter Smash last year, but how important was he to just what you wanted that room, the chemistry to be and how much brother you see from that? Yeah, Brandon's always been a big part of our learn, our secret wise coach really. He drives it, he helps run it. Carnell was taking a big role in that as well this year. Frankly, all those guys are stepping up. And Carnell, JJ, David Adolf, these guys were all, I've made progression. But from a leadership standpoint, those guys are really trying to take over with BIP and they're at the forefront of that. So I expect that. And that's good. He holds himself to a high standard, but I want him to start bringing more and more guys at all. And that's the best thing that Jeremiah does in the plays and the reps.

6:08He doesn't have a lot of sense. You know, I think that best thing Jeremiah does is just, he just always wants to learn. So as a coach, you can't, you know, baby him. You can't like put him on a pedestal. He does not want that. So he being held accountable, you know, there have been opportunities that he finished more and held the ball on your hands, turned off field. I identify it and he applies it. So I'm not going to say there's one individual thing in the ball's hands. I think just overall for him, he's always trying to learn, he's always trying to contribute whether he's that, you know, he knows there's a decoyish mentality. Or blocking mentality, because he's a big guy or whatever that role is, he just loves learning the why and then I'm then applying it in that role and that. Brian, we're trying to help him last week, which they talked about, far now, maybe taking the biggest strides out of anyone in terms of leadership this all season. Did you guys have the push now? Was that all kind of him naturally kind of stepping into that role?

7:10No, it's more him for sure. There's probably a conversation that was had, obviously, that, you know, we know you are capable of this, why not be this guy? Whatever those conversations are between myself, coach, making, coach day. But ultimately, you know, players apply, players choose to do things. We can recommend and suggest all we want, but ultimately players are responsible for making plays and making changes. So yeah, I would agree with coach. He strides, you know, love him for it. He's the right kind of guy for it. He's the right kind of well. We're no BS kind of guy. A lot of guys had a lot of respect for him. So doing a great job after we love it, and then those conversations that had were received and a lot of sees really taking the, taking the reins of it and ran with them. All right. Go ahead. Talk to the board about what it takes and what kind of a second group to get on field in terms of replacing those guys and what not. Are you seeing that maybe more of an opportunity to have some rotation this year, given what you've

8:15got in terms of experience and what not. Yeah, there's always a chance. I mean, there's so many reps being had in practice. And you're either, you know, playing at the level of the guys that are starting or you're not. Ultimately, that sort of comes down to you, right? So if you can match the execution level and or a bet or whatever, ultimately the film tells you who should be on the field on Saturdays. And at what point in the game, you know, and whether it be situational or not. And guys maximizing his rep opportunities ultimately dictates how that works. So we've got lots of reps really inspiring and we got two fields going. We got tons of reps happening. And more times than that, it kind of shows itself. But yeah, I do that, frankly, every year. And it's the same opportunity, but those guys just have to do it. And you know, love defining roles, but guys define roles and they earn range.

9:21And if you keep it that way, ultimately the respect in your room and in the position room on your team should stay true. And so a lot of competition right now, a lot of good stuff happening. We're just going to try to see who does it more consistently over time. Every time we've done it, it seems like it's been a long year to catch up. A lot of you roll really. Like it's like a stab with family. Where have you seen and shaped the biggest stuff? Since the spring to the last song. Yeah, I think him going through his first spring really helped him first winner, really helped him being grounded for his first for a summer. You know, instead of like showing up and having acclimations for a month before you actually could into it. I mean, all of those things, you know, almost makes you feel like you're in your third year like for Jeremiah or these young guys that came in this year to come in January. But at the time you get to your second year, you almost feel like it's your third year because you've worked with Coach Mac, you've had a spring, you've had a summer, you've had a fall, you've had a fall season and you're like, gosh, it's only a second year.

10:27I always say when you come in June, it's still all new until you get back to June. And so that's what my own experience, my own now, I mean, he fully understands. Like, I mean, there you don't understand it. I'm good, I'm good, I'm good. You don't realize it. So, yes, and it dates your question long windedly and say that my own is in a really good spot. And he's put himself in a position to compete for getting on the field. Whether it be offensively or special teams, I expect him to earn roles in special teams even before you even get on offense. That's how we're built here, right? Defensively and offensively, you can't get on special teams. I don't know how you expect to pay off with a defense. So, you know, the guys on special teams are the best football players, period. So those guys, I like to see him on in that light, but obviously he had a great spring. He's growing and I want to see him keep building on what he's doing. You know, I don't want to have step backs. I know he's not going to understand the progression he's on is really good.

11:27What kind of asset has Tyler but do you think last couple of things? Yeah, I love really enjoyed getting to know Tyler. I think really how they have his football IQ and his personality and how he commands with his room and his guys and how he puts relationships. The overall having Tyler in the building is a great honor, a great situation. I mean, I can't say that anything like it's only day two. So like we're going to see about the body of work. These guys have, they've done a pretty good job of making the plays we're supposed to make. And then we'll go from there. So this day one day to install, we're looking at the body of work for guys to separate themselves, not just today or day. And the quarterback, so just kind of a general. What are you looking to see first day, second day, third day? Consistency. What you do most often is exactly who you are.

12:28So when you consistently make the play, because it's the communicator, because it's the loud, because it's energy consistently to prayer well, whatever that is, the consistency level of anybody ultimately dictates your identity. So we're chasing that to early right now. We're going to see the big past that, but like when he built, I talked yesterday about how important the cadence is with the quarterback. So what he's looking for there. Have you seen both those guys deliver what you're looking for? Yeah, they're going to go job they're going with it and they understand the weapon. David eight off on the phone. You're working out there and bonding. You have a time. You have a different thing does that and you can have that time to work together. Yeah, I think anytime you can work together, guys are going to feel for each other. Not only just, oh, he throws the ball like this. It's more about the camaraderie. He has my back. More than anything, you can't challenge a relationship.

13:30You don't have a relationship. So you can't challenge a guy. You can't be out of guy. You can't get, you know, push a guy unless the relationship is built first. So the faster you get the relationship built, the quicker you can get to uncomfortable conversations. And ultimately you grow. So during the foundation is still number one. And those guys doing that in their own is a good sign. From your space player, you're able to kind of do a way. Obviously you work here the most. You're able to get away kind of keeping it together and kind of push each other in that sense. How much does that help you build? I don't know how much you're pushing each other on your own. Again, when they're on their own, they're going to do it on their own time. And so it feels there's a lot more ownership, I think, at times when you do stuff like that. But again, ultimately it's just the bond going. What's up? What's new? It wasn't there in January.

14:36It's August now. Oh yeah, it's all personal. I guess. You talk a little bit about the cool basketball. That seems like a ministerial offseason. What can you learn about it? Oh, it was awesome. We're playing full basketball and we're literally trying to drown each other to win. Everything here, right? I mean, there was no files. We just want to know who could execute it. Might the plays, coaches included. And literally when I say like nothing was off limits, there was nothing off limits. So one, the guys kind of who show up, the guys that compete, the guys, oh that's it. I mean, I'm poor son. He gets evaluated on everything he does. It doesn't matter. You know, every coach is probably that way. Anytime you're around, people manage this. It's a human nature, if you're worried about that. But it was a lot of fun. The cool basketball, I mean, it's not real basketball.

15:38Yeah, but like, the athleticism drive. It is. Yeah, I don't like it. I think of our group. There was a three sum that was pretty good. Went all a little under. But then me, JJ, who else beat him. No, I did not. We lost the first time. We were off the bat. But it was, it was car now. It was B.I. And it was Lincoln. Those three we cannot, they went for a run. Good seven or eight. A row. We did some bad turnovers in our first game. We were identifying as the toughest competition. Got chance to plan again, but there was like the eighth game. And we dominated. We've heard a lot about Lincoln's athleticism. How much does it show up in everything? It seems like it does involve baseball, school basketball. Do you see it everywhere? It is a competitive. I think that's the biggest thing that comes off on the link.

16:38And it's enjoyable to look sports with him. He's on your side. We plan as much. I just wanted to get more experience under my belt. I can bring younger guys with me because I've been going on. One of those younger guys, we're seeing it on the first time. We've heard all these last years. What have you seen from Lillie? We've kind of felt like last year we all forgot about him because he was hurt. Now he's running almost a second man out behind you and Ty. What have you seen in the legend? Well, it was a workhorse. He goes, stay quiet. He goes, work hard. And that's what I love about him. He focuses. He don't really talk much. He's going to get the job done. Do a job right. Rarely has any mistakes. What would be a successful season? A national championship? I ring when all the games we want to lose into things. We got a mindset that we can't beat. We just got to go show it. That mindset different. It seems like you guys expect a national championship every year.

17:38This year even more so. You guys have all come back for this. You guys have all decided like an opposite one. Does that feel the difference? Or is there not really any difference? It's just the same work. It's definitely a difference. Everyone working harder. We noticed our last run. Most of us don't have any years after this. So we got to go bigger. Go home. We're not trying to go home. Finish big. We know what you guys think of Michigan. But when you look at what they did, they won the national championship. And you guys took them down to the final minute. You know what I mean? You were right there. Something goes a little different. You guys could have won that game against them. Does that tell you anything about like that? Hey, you guys want to win a national championship. But you played to the 59th minute with the rest of the team. That won the national championship last year. Like you're that close. So I'm saying we just like work harder. That's kind of coach makes a saying. You know, nobody cares. Just work harder. Like those, you know, won't play Georgia. The same thing. Yeah. Last, last play. You know, they went on the win in 90. So we just got to get over that hump at the end of the season.

18:40I think we'll be fine. How frustrating is that? You're that close against the last two national titles. Of course, as you know, it's frustrating. But you can't change the outcome. You can't really dwell on it. You just got to, you know, come back and work harder. Do things better than you did last year. And hopefully the outcome will change. Is that as you get older, you kind of learn. I thought I was working hard. And then you always find out there's a little more. You could have been doing it. Yeah, definitely. I mean, that's how that's what growing up is basically in college. And I thought, freshman year, I was working. It's hard as I could, but not look back at it. I really wasn't working hard at all. Compared to what I'm doing now. So just to learn anything. If the stamina is a 16, then the answer to like, what do you need it to be to be your best? Uh, it is a 75. 80, 85. I mean, I can, it's all on me. I just, I think it's a little higher. I was just trying to be funny, but. I mean, it's all on me. I just got to run harder in shape. That's the standard up to you. It's been a thing.

19:40The idea of a potential is 16 or 17. But, uh, I think, I think we, I definitely can last. I was just, you know, we got to get the young guys to come along. We're this, we can't play 50 snaps again. That's just too much on our bodies. Uh, just everybody's like, online, D line, we got to get those younger guys to play, you know, get that pieces on the D line and the online. And everywhere else. So we can last that long. Speaking of it, I'm like, what's up? Like, what's up, what's up? I'm, I'm like, what's up? I'm like, what's up? I'm like, what's up? I'm like, what's up? I'm like, what's up? I'm like, what's up? I'm like, what's up? Do you front? 掉?. GO. I don't down in the yard. Now. If you, I see the. Yeah. You know, not, I say you know what I'm saying? I don't know. Really kepada Adecede with Master Kต. When you're ahead two years younger than me, you expect that. I was excited. I think d season just gave me that wind. When I fell or you were dead. And the throughout those touchdowns. The endpoint came last, you actually thought that without, everything like that. Like what can you do? Like you different Pr volta? What stands out about Kaden McDonald? Is he got the key?

20:40I'm the guy's in the second here. Oh yeah, definitely. K-Mac is a K-Mac's animal. Y'all, you haven't really seen it yet, but in practice, he shows all the time. He's just, he's grown right now. He has to work, I think. He just has to get, you know, in the playbook, things like that. You guys are about the exact same size. Listen, you're both, listen to Sixth, or you're three 27, he's three 26. Yeah, he's a very old man. I kind of look at him like my junior, but you know, K-Mac, he's going to be a great player. He just got to develop more and get into playbook. So really a lot on you, older guy, there's that large group of young guys, and then there's the seniors in the back, is that part of your task for this year to bring those guys along as well? Yeah, definitely. We got to be leaders. Like I said, we got to have them play this year. We can't just play all the snaps. They got to get in there and get some work. And we got to get them right, during the all season, so they can play. And not just play, they want to like contribute, like, make plays, tackle, and sex. That's the stage I'll work with. It seems like these guys get big. Each one of the freshmen class is a bigger, bigger.

21:42Do those guys kind of, does it kind of allow you on the first? Yeah, they're definitely some big dudes. And they all work hard. I've only seen much of some lead day too, when I'm passing on, but throughout the workouts, they've been working hard, you know, they're determined to say that. And it looks like they're ready to work with me. How important is those? It feels like, you know, there's a lot of great defenses that you have big, athletic defensive tactics, who can eat up space, but also move, you know, right? It is that, is that an inquire maybe for great defense? To have guys like you that have some balls, but also a great team. I think that is definitely, I think if you look at the last couple, national championship winners, like, Team of North, they didn't know they got too good, detaco, two athletic detacles. Look at Georgia, two athletic detacles. I think that's definitely neat, if you want to go on that big run, and beat those big teams. If you think about those, they're going to be fired by the defense attackers. Like, what's Georgia, Jordan Davis and Daniel Carter? Let's miss you again.

22:43It's Chris Jenkins. Couple more questions. You get this funny, like, how? I mean, you understand, because you play it, but I feel like some time, I don't know, people realizing how important defense tackles are, a little bit more than they used to. I think so. I think they're starting to develop more and more of these like freakish detacles. Yeah. Like, in the combine, just now, you see in like those guys, they're moving four to four, seven, eight, and things like that. So we'll see. And when you think about those freakish out there, how do you think you fit into that old of that kind of player? Will you watch that and say, yeah, that's me? Yeah, definitely. I think I'm top-notch when it comes to detacles, but I don't want to, you know, get a big head, but, you know, watch it come on. I watch it do the drills. I mean, I have tapes here, you're like, you're looking much, my film. So I think I'm up there with all those things. So I think you become like a artist and it comes in bad end passes. The figure wags have your things. I mean, you're going to bring practice. You're not doing as much a weapon on a weapon.

23:44That's strong. How do you work on that? Do you have like a goal in mind? I don't remember how many that last year, but like, you have a goal in mind? How many do you want to have? I mean, as many as I can have, I think I have more than that, but I think they've counted. I think they've counted some of them. And some of them were like just listed. So, but I think we work on drills matching the hand. I think that goes big and what we do is a D line, you know, just affecting the quarter of the against. Any way you can is just great for the defense, you know, just that little thing you cover in his eye, you know, he might throw it a little bit to the left to our players. So it's something that you really, really have to work on. You do that with what you do. It's really, that's one of the things that you've maybe worked on the most. You can bring your time here because there are a few guys that have seen, like, oh, that pass, we're just doing that. We don't have to ask this trial. We're kind of, kind of, kind of expected for the defense. I think I just have like a, like, an eye for the ball kind of, I kind of just look at the quarterback and just, I see him like load up. I just try to get in his ways. And sometimes he just throws it to me. Oh, no.

24:44How many of your stages do you want to be or are you staying quarter-backs getting? You're not getting a bad down pass. I mean, they get frustrated, but you know, we're a team, you know, we're just getting better. Yeah. Watch a lot of different backs, man. They just learn to grow for them. You got to pick your top three backs. You got to go right now. One, two, three. Uh, I don't really have a top three, but I'll give you, I'll give you one. I would say, say, Juan Gibbs and... I like McCaffrey. Auto, he was injured this year. I like McCaffrey. I appreciate it. Who's the best backer? Best back in this drive? I lead out of the yard. That's y'all decision. What do you want to remember most about playing with? Playing with Will Howard? What I'm going to remember most. We're a Howard, man. He's just such a great leader, man. It's just like in moments where, you know, usually a lot of players they fold, man. He was just always calm and relaxed, man. He just the leader that he was, man.

25:44That's one thing I'm going to remember about him. What do you think of James P. Yeah, he's... He's going to be really good, man. He's on Coach Lock. I think he got the transfer in as well from West Virginia. Just that one-two punch with them both as well. They're going to be really good backs. And so James P. was, man, he's smart the way that he goes about his business, man. He's mature. And so, man, he's growing, you know, just as a person and as a player. And so, man, yeah, definitely Ohio State. You know, that running back room is in great hands. I was right there looking at the UFC spot, but I'm just not the best in personality and I'm just trying to keep that up until the same way. Yeah. Coach Heartline, man. He's full of energy, man. And he's creative as well, you know. I'm just learning from him as well, you know. I'm trying to run more outside the backfield. It was being able to learn from Coach Heartline. And so, he's definitely creative at what he does. And he brings a lot of energy to the team as well. And so, I think that would do really good. So, you know, just in intensity, man.

26:48And in intensity of the playoffs, every game, man, is like the intensity got, you know, higher and higher. And so, you know, being able, I know in the lead, it's the same thing, even if it's not the playoffs, just every game and intensity, it keeps getting higher and higher. And so, yeah, you just, I know you got to bring it, you know, each and every day and come in and work. And just like Ohio State, you know, I definitely feel like Ohio State. They definitely do a good job of preparing us for that. You know, I just remember even before going through this process, I'll talk to a lot of players before then. And they told me a lot of just about how much Ohio State prepared them, you know, for the NFL. And so, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I know I took a couple days off after the National Championship. And then, shoot, right after that, I'm right in. I'm right in Tampa, Florida, and I'm right to it. And so, yeah, I think while I trained, I trained at your birth performance. I think it's called the House of Athlete or the Compound now. They did a good job, man.

27:49They're just bringing us in and the way they went about training us, man, they did a really good job. The Bucking Nears, you know what I have in it. Tampa, Tampa, nice. It's a nice city, man. Really nice. Really nice. The 40, the broad and the vert. I'm trying to make my father a racist and awesome locker. Do you speak to your mentality of like when you've got a linebacker or something like that, figure that you and you're getting ready to swear a lot of it? Yeah. Yeah. Nah, man. It's really all about technique. And then it's about mindset as well. And so, I say, you know, it's for the love of my brother. It's for the love of Will Howard. It's for the love of the receivers who I got on the perimeter. Just making sure, you know, first of all, my quarterback doesn't get sacked. And I tell Will, I think it was before the first game. I was like, I got your brother. It's, I said, man, I'm not going to let you get hit, you know, and so, I don't know if I don't know if I gave up a sack. I'm not sure that, but I know if I did, I haven't given up too many.

28:51And so, man, it's for the love of my brother's, though, man, making sure the ball get in their hands, you know, the guys on the outside and making sure they get fed. You had to hit the practice field later today. What is something you've been working on right now when you need to? In my game, you can't really work on this, you know, in all season, I feel like it's more so, you know, you got to put the pads on. You got to go through some inside run, you know, maybe it's really just continuing to run through tackles. And so, that's, I feel like that's one of the areas in my game, you know, I want to continue to get better at it. I feel like I did a good job of that my senior year. And so, I just want to continue to build on that. Yes, I did. Yes, I did. So, people try to look like, I'll let him borrow out there. If that can be heard, say, I can mail him to the number one. I did meet with New Orleans as well. I never got that comparison. Actually, I know I have a Camera. Sure, yeah, man, I have a Camera. Great, great back, man. Just what he does and knows, one on one matchups, he's dangerous, man. And he's so smooth. He's so smooth as well. I'm not going to lie. He's smooth.

29:51Yeah. Inside zone from stack, being able to hit that thing downhill. And I'll say the next one is probably just an option route out of the backfield. You know, a man and man coverage, you're getting on that linebacker. And so. Yeah, I say the man, the biggest thing is the way that he carries himself, man. And the way that man, he approaches the game. He comes in with the mindset, you know, he's going to work every single week. You know, every practice, you know, he's working hard. You know, even shoot, I don't know, every good, I think he had it. Every game was a good game for him, man. And so, but still, man, he always has the mentality to mindset that, you know, he's going to come in each and every day. He's going to continue to work and get better, man. And so he's definitely man. He's going to be a special player, man.

30:52He really is. Man, a lot of ups and downs, man. It's just how you respond to adversity. And I feel like that's something that God has definitely helped me to do better. Is this, I'm not having something to lean on now. You know, I remember before I met him, you know, going through those adversity, I had nothing to run to. You know, you can run to people, but they still can't. It's not too much, they can't truly help you. You know, I feel like, you know, I feel like the only person that can truly help you is your relationship with Jesus Christ. And so, being able to lean on him, you know, he gives you, in those moments where it's tough, you know, where it's slow. And when you're behind the scenes and you're going through things that people don't know about, he gives you that peace and comfort. You know, even in those moments, man, we're so hard that you can't explain. It's like, man, I'm going through this, but like, how am I still filled with this internal joy? You know, how do I have so much peace in this situation?

31:52And so, that's something that only Jesus Christ can give you. And so... How are you doing? Man, those guys have such a great mentality, man. I just really love their mentality, especially Q as well. You know, I talked about Will Howard, his leadership, but Quenchon mentality, man. That boy just, yeah, that boy just gifted, you know. You see, you know, sometimes he put in a situation where he looked like, you know, he should have a negative five yards. And as soon as you know it, you know, he, that running through somebody, still farming somebody, and shoot, it's a game to 10. And so... Yeah. Shoot, I think... Yeah, man, I think it's just like, he's just gifted, man, too, beyond it. He's just gifted, you know, he's a big back, you know, he's strong.

32:53And so, you know, he's able to do those things. So, yeah, man, it's definitely, you know, I look at this game and I want to, you know, at the same time, I want to learn from Quenchon. You know, I want to look at this game and it's like, man, where, where can I get better at as well? You know, that's the type of player I am. I'm always looking to get better, man. I'm always looking to grow as a player. What's your last one to treat? Julian Sand. Oh, yeah, he's going to be a great, but he's going to be a great quarterback, man. He's so, so accurate. And so, he's definitely, man, I know Coach Dez is definitely going to get him right. Just, you know, continuing to grow as a leader, continuing to grow as a player. And so, he's going to be really good for a high state. He's, I know just the quarterback position. I feel like, you know, the quarterbacks in the past, they've, they've definitely been vocal. And so, I feel like that's something that they're definitely going to ask Julian Sand as well. It's to be that vocal leader and lead the, and lead the offense and lead the team. Thanks, Jay. Shoot, man, he has, he has a build like JK Dobbins.

33:53And I kind of see them, you know, similar, similarities in their game as well. And I know JK Dobbins, he was a great running back. I feel like he's not talked about his none. A lot, but man, his career here, you watch his highlights is great. I remember before I recruit, before I committed here, I remember watching JK Dobbins highlights like every, every one of his years here, like four or five times. And so, man, he was such a great back. And I feel like, you know, when I see JK Dobbins, when I see James people, I see similarities to both of their games. I feel like they play the same. And so, appreciate you all. Yeah, I'll be going. Yeah.

35:17Yeah. Yeah.

36:18Yeah. Well, I got coming in last year, I knew it was all so I just tacked Eric Dave really the same way. Basically, basically, basically, basically, how different are you weight wise, body wise on that from your, uh, I think I got a lot bigger. I'm like 240, you know, like 240, 4 right now. Last year, I played it like 236 to 37. What does it feel like at 244 or better? You feel like almost a different machine out there. Yeah, like, what does it feel like to be running around out there like you are, but with more, more back? I just feel like I'm like, like, like more downhill, like stronger, like I'm taking all blocks better. It's a big, no. Is it daunting? Uh, maybe that's not the correct term, but to think you're going to be playing much more than you did even last year. And you played quite a bit last year instead of what you have to get straight in your head about being on the field that much more.

37:25Is it going to get ready to just play 30 more snaps? So, but are you, are you, how would you describe how much you're looking forward to it from an each standpoint? Yeah. Yeah, I'm looking forward to it. I'm ready for it. The Texas opener, it's a rematch, but it's not really two different teams compared to the last time you all played and stuff. How has that enhanced this camp for you and this team getting ready for the, where an opener of that magnitude? Yeah, with an opener like that, we've been, um, we've been emphasizing it a lot. We know we got coming, so we know we got to do, we've been prepared for it. Already this is probably what it is. Um, I think Riley ready to play right now. He, he advanced freshman like he ended up here in the book. He stood in like he advanced and his measurements was crazy. Like he saw like, saw like to. Or like you said, you're ready. You know, you're ready. What was that process like during last season? Could you feel yourself becoming more and more ready? So whatever the team needed from you? Yeah, because that's pretty much what my role was.

38:26Whenever I was needed, I had to step up. So I feel like that's what built me into me being able to say I'm ready for this year. When you say ready, is it more a physical thing? Is it a mental thing? When I say ready, I think it's pretty much like everything physically, mentally, mostly. I think I'm there. A different is that feeling this year than last season. That's the most possible thing I've ever had. Um, asked a one more time. How different is that recross ability? That should be that you should be emotional. If you want to ask you, who knew you were a homemaker? Um, I feel like it's a way bigger responsibility with me having to step up this year. But I kind of go about it the same way. Like last year, I was intentional with everything I did. I feel like this year is going to be the same thing. It's probably a little bit more. Somebody who's some reason they were saying this. How do you decide? And what were? How's everybody working? Uh, I say.

39:29Scrabbing. And I say that when you think of me, you would think of like a like a bully, like a silver bully. I don't really bully. I'm always on the ball. That's how I like to play and think. You know what I'm gonna body that? No, I ain't got to be my nickname, but. So I'm not saying that the nickname beat that so hard. Oh yeah, that's it. Yeah, yeah. You want a body? Yeah, that's it. I'm gonna go for a question. What's your first question? How does that fit you? And what are you going to show me about? The bullying and that kind of stuff? Um, I think it fit me because. I don't know, I just like the defense. I feel like we got, like you said, we got a lot of freedom and we're moving around a lot. A lot of the terms is like, you know, I don't know. I don't really not answer that. That's okay. Does it kind of, you could go on your instincts a little bit more, baby? And it's not so thinking of too much. I don't even know if I say that because there's a lot of thinking going on, but it's like, I just like his defense. I like how the pressure defense. I like what he got going on. What was it, sad when CJ left the ring? Uh, now I wanted to say that I was kind of like happy for you.

40:33Like, yeah, that's what you want. No, no. No, that's my dog. So yeah, kind of missing a little bit, but yeah, I'm happy for you. I felt like, go ahead one last question. Coach Daze talked a lot about the guys who played some last year, but maybe weren't the starters and the hunger for, you know, that wasn't maybe your national championship. You guys will win your own. How much do you feel that is a guy who certainly contributed last year, but will be in this bigger role and a lot of some of your classmates? Yeah, I do feel like, um, yeah, I do feel like I did win a nati last year, but like you said, my role wasn't same as how it's going to be this year. I definitely want to want to go get another one experienced that like feeling maybe on the field, a lot more place. I said, great. Oh, Bill, thank you very much. Thanks. Left side of your office of line, how they great out they look good up to the naked eye. How they look when you watch the film. Yeah, both created out champions and, um, I thought they played their best down the stretch.

41:37In particular, that last drive. So, um, that's good. You should, again, keep saying this build confidence. We move forward. Both those guys being in that spot. So new challenge this week. You know, that game's behind us. You know, time to focus on. I'll, you know, Purdue line real quick. Is there any update on time beyond that? Can you just get into how well Caden McDonald is playing up front? Yeah, a K Mac really stepped up for us and, um, you know, we're hoping that he can continue to give us, you know, more more snaps, but great to see him. You know, with the game in a line. I think it was the third down play where he really got a lot of movement on the center and that made a huge difference in the, in, in on that play, especially, but he was in there for all those plays two weeks in a row. So big spot for him to step up in. So we're going to continue to try to find ways to get him on the field and. Tally is doing good. He's day to day. We'll see how he is when he comes in. Tony Gerber, what kind of battle? What is that defensive tackle situation? What is Andrew Houston done to get involved there? Yeah. Well, he's got a very bright future ahead of him. I think he's going to be really good football player. Hasn't played a lot inside.

42:43So he's learning that position, but I think that, um, when you look at, you know, how he projects out. You know, we got, we got one here now. He's got to keep growing. He's got to keep learning from, from Ty and Tyleek and, you know, the age of crises of playing inside because it is different than playing on the edge. But he has a size, the power, the strength, toughness to play inside for us. But he's going to stay there. What was his response to the position? He really embraced it. You know, I think he sees what this could be for him. You know, not saying that, you know, maybe down a row, we wouldn't move him back outside, but I think he realizes, you know, when you go from being, you know, very athletic and strong defensive end and now moving inside. Now you become elite as a three technique because you have that speed and quickness and he does have the power to hold the point of attack. Over to the right down the barrier. We be in that coach. I was a first, uh, rankings come out of matter. Will you pay attention to that? And just any thoughts on it? Yeah. No. No. No. Just focused on Purdue. That's all that matters. You know, in rankings right now.

43:48For us, again, don't, don't mean anything because you got to keep winning. And that's, that's, you know, for us every time we walk off the field on a Sunday, no matter what happened the game before that game is over with. It's on to Purdue. I think Purdue, you know, their record may not say it, but they've been playing good football and, you know, we've got to come in and play physical in this game. And we've got to continue to build on what, what happened last week. And, and that's, that's what today is going to be all about in a Tuesday practice because, you know, whatever rankings are they are the matter. I can you, as we've always said, the ones that matter at the ones at the end of the year. It was obviously a huge win over there. Love the celebration afterwards. I didn't know you were such a great dancer. As far as what that does for the confidence, because you know, it's one thing to say is that, but to go do it and the way you were able to drive down the field and close out that game, what's it to for your close confidence? I think we know we can do it. It's been two weeks in a row. We've done that now.

44:53Do I think that we should be in that situation in that game? No. You know, I think our execution has got to be better this week, you know, for where we need to go and what we want to do. But we also know the game of football takes twists and turns along the way and you're going to find yourself in games. You know, there was on pluses and minuses on both sides, positive plays on both sides and negative plays on both sides. But you know, you got to win the game in the fourth quarter and a big part of that is being physical so that you can control the game at the end of regulation. You know, like we did, we milked the clock there with five minutes plus to go in the game. And you know, I've been in games before where, you know, in five minutes, there's about four or five different possessions. You just go back and forth and you know, it turns into a shooting match. So it's a 35-28 or 48, you know, 42. And this one here, you know, we ran the ball and milked the clock and finished the game that way. And that's what this game needed. You never know what's going to come up next if we don't get to stand on defense off as to go out and get a score.

45:55So whatever it takes to win the game is what we got to do. But it all comes down to how physical we are running the football and stopping to run. You know, will is should be your stable force being such a veteran as you quarterback a couple turnovers. I know the one of the two lines and a bit looking the way that thing came out for touchback rule is what it is. Any concerns of as far as will trying to protect football in big games, what's it for? What can happen that can't happen, you know, it just we got to take care of football and you know, the first play, you know, you got you got, you know, fooled a little bit in terms of what he saw. And so that, you know, unfortunately, sometimes like that, those things will happen. But we can't funnel the balls out of ten yard line. Just can't do it. So, you know, we were like he said, you know, we were fortunate in the game because of, you know, the play of so many guys down the stretch and turned into a four quarter game because of that. You know, we take care of the ball better. It doesn't doesn't have to be that way. So he knows that. And you know, we're going to keep hammering at home this week and a huge emphasis on execution and take care of football.

47:00What about the whole world? What about the whole world? What did you like from what's causing you guys that enough garbage? What did he show you in the rest of the weeks and things? Thank you. It's ready. I'm really not playing the whole game. Yeah, you know, we looked at him during, you know, the preseason. He was out with illness. He was playing back up center. We moved into guard. We felt like at that time, you know, Tegrig gave us more at right guard and with Donnie at left guard, Seth was, you know, solidified at center. So we kept Carson right there at center at the time. Since, you know, Donnie got moved out, you know, we felt like there was a hole there that we needed to fill. And you know, we had a couple different options there and some good options. But in this game, we felt like experience was the right thing to go with. And you know, after watching the film, he stepped up in a big way and showed us that he can play guard. And so we're going to continue to go with Carson. And, you know, we saw what we saw in film and now he's got to keep building on it. You know, we've got to be really happy about that. Right. Obviously, Carson, giving you that boost is helpful because it answers one question. I'm curious about the last week with Donnie and the decision to move in the tackle for a kid that played guard for three years as a lot of health prospects, etc.

48:16How is the conversation with him about taking that risk of moving out there? How does he handle it? Post game? How does he handle it? And how does it feel different after the game? You know, I think anytime you're making a move like that in a big game and going against a high end player like Carter is, you know, there's a lot to process there, but he never flinched at all. You know, he never thought twice about it. He embraced it. I think, you know, Justin did a great job of preparing him, you know, in one week. Now he had been getting reps out there and practice, but it's not the same as preparing to play in a game, especially when you're on the silent count, especially against a great player like Carter. And so, you know, we really did tailor the game the best we could around that. There's a couple of third downs. We just had to call it and play it and we did help with the cadence at one time and then Carter got us, you know, on the other ones, but, but I thought Donnie absolutely just fought his tail off and played physical the whole time and wore those guys down and embraced a new role in a tough spot. So I think he can be a very good tackle. I mean, just watching his athletics is his, his length, the way his feet move. He can play good tackle for us. Now we've got to keep getting on the reps and keep getting more and more of the experience of being out there and confidence, but, you know, he's showing now that he can play both positions. I think it's only going to help him.

49:34Fourth and two in the second quarter from the field, where it's a risky play call up the risk giving momentum back to the state of the field. They're called that play to Delani. What have you seen out of him in the last couple weeks to put him in that spot because it seemed like a player who maybe hadn't found it. Yeah, those are those are not easy decisions, but you know, you got in that moment. I felt like, you know, we, we had run the sneak before. We wanted to take try to get will on the perimeter. They did a nice job of, you know, kind of sniffing it out, but we'll continue to keep the play alive. We didn't think it would get all the way to Delani, who was actually the last read in the progression. You know, we had a tail back in the flat. We had Jeremiah on the over and then here comes. And Delani on the side of you mirror, which I don't think we threw all week. So for those guys to do that. And like I said the other day, I think you got three catches and three drops on one play. Delani is on that play. It was just one of those plays you got to make and he did. And what a sideline was excited for him. But I think when you look at Delani, you see somebody who has a tremendous amount of talent. He's growing every day, he's maturing every day.

50:44You know, when he's consistently doing his job and knowing what he's doing, you see it. You know, and I think that's been the thing that's held him back a little bit, but he's making those improvements now. And the more he can build trust in the staff and making a big play like that in a big spot. Certainly does a lot for him. And I think that's a lot of work for Carson. Since he didn't play in that combo, what growth have you seen from him really since that recent game last year. Now that makes you think this can be a consistent step. Carson has toughness. Carson has athleticism. Carson's smart. And I think after watching the film and maybe not taking on as much of the stuff in terms of making all the calls and everything like that that maybe having set there next to him and Donnie over here next to him allowed him to focus on his job and not, you know, be worried about all the different things that happen. You can just can go play football. And and that's what he did. So I think there's a lot of growth and maturity there emotionally.

51:48So you don't want to pull into a being a guard or center right now. Right. You talk about not having the responsibility to make no calls. Playing a being guard, getting next assessing him. How does that help him whether I think you'd have to ask him. But from my point of view, having set in there certainly has built a calmness isn't the word, but a confidence. A, you know, they're much more sure themselves in there and in, you know, Seth gets everybody in the same page, but also, you know, talks to them about how we're going to do things, you know, in terms of footwork about hand placement about the double teams. And I think that's been great for Carson to see that. You know, when you think about Carson's. You know, first couple years here, you know, I don't think we ever expected Luke to leave after three years. And he did and kind of left the hole there. So Carson got forced in action a year early. Another year under Luke and seeing Luke operate for another year as a senior would have gone a long way. And that's usually the ideal situation for a center.

52:53Carson got forced in action sooner than we have liked it, but now he's got a chance to see Seth work. And I think that's really going to help him in his future and you saw it there on Saturday. And like you said, whether it's guard or center, I think he's in a better place now and certainly going out there and doing it on the field, you know, leads us to believe that's the case. So follow up on the offensive line there, you guys, you know, celebrated for the guys as the offensive players of the game. What board did you can see from Tyra kind of moving forward to have better performances? Yeah, we try not to do that too much in terms of putting out the grades when he was close, but you know, the grades of the grades and you know, you got a grade out of champion in order to get player of the game. But we thought he played his tail off. He played really, really hard just a couple things in there that you know, we got to clean up and this is not a feel good situation. Either you grade out or 80% or you don't and he was right there. But you know, we were real with the grading and doesn't take away from the effort and what he did and we definitely called him out in the meeting and made sure everybody understood that, you know, he was right there and gave a great effort. It was part of the offensive line. So, you know, when you're grading, you're looking to decide me, you're looking at technique.

53:59Rahal, on his back. We'll Howard, when he makes mistakes, he seems to move on from the pretty well. At least we're talking to him after the game. That seems to be something he really has. Is that better than me? Is that just wiring? Is that something you guys can coach into someone to move on to the next flight? Does he bring sports psychologists into the situation? Have you seen a guy like him and moved on that quickly? I mean, I know he does. He definitely does. He's got to he's got an act for that. And I, you know, we talk a lot about there's a fine line of like, you know, you make a mistake and it's like, well, I'll just go on to the next step. And so, we're going to do a lot of things in a month. We just, you know, have a major problem here. So there's that fine line there. And so we try to do in practice. And I try to do is whether it's a quarterback, the kicker, the left guard, or, you know, the corner. Is, you know, make it hard for him in practice. When they do make a mistake, I mean, just, you know, get all over him so that they feel what that's going to be like in a game.

55:02And then you watch to see how that respond. You know, if that play bogs them down for the rest of practice, then you know, we got some growing up to do here. And so we try to do that in practice, but, but wills not somebody's been in the program for a long time. So I can't sit here and say that, you know, any of the coaching staff is any credit for that. This is this is something that wills had. And, you know, whether he earned that when or learned about this when he was in high school or gained it from being a Kansas state, you know, you have to ask him, but, but that's something that we all try to do. You know, and again, whether it's a corner getting beaten a goal ball, you know, you got to like Davis and the way he came back after they get in that, you know, that completion on them and they did call the hold on them to come back and make that play like that's what you have to do in these types of games. And I will say that I do feel right now in the middle of the season, probably more than in years past that we've been tested more. Our players have been tested more, the team has been tested more so that we're a little bit more resilient than maybe in the past. And we played against, you know, teams or had games where we find ourselves in, you know, games that were a little bit lopsided, you don't really get tested, you don't really get putting that some of those tough situations.

56:09So, you know, we're kind of on that to be a difference. Are you concerned at all with Seth Snaps? I saw during the game there were some low ones and will at one time kind of try to calm him down, I think. I don't know if that's nipping or if you've seen anything. No, we want, we want very, very accurate snaps. It makes a big difference, but I think he's been accurate with them. I thought he handled the environment. I thought the fact that our offensive line at zero falls starts, zero holding calls was big in the game. That's what we needed. We needed a clean game. And so there's a lot going on there. And as you know, with the silent cadence, you kind of saw we were tapping and then moving our head. And the head movement is so that the offensive line can then realize, okay, the ball is about to be snapped and anticipate that. And I didn't realize it, but if you ever try to just like on the move your head quick and then snap the ball, I mean, you can get dizzy quick. You know, you can almost feel like you have vertigo. And so it's not easy. It's not. And I thought Seth handled himself well and handled the environment well overall.

57:11Don't David, don't you have, right? It should seem like he is at his best. I'm excited. What were your thoughts on the game that he called? Were there moments throughout the game where you thought he was looking at what I called there? Yeah, I mean, we all work hard putting the game plan together. And I thought he called a good game. I thought he had patience. You know, I'm not always the most patient. I think he's more patient than I am. And I think, you know, he understood that we need to establish the run in that game and be physical. And, you know, I think he did that in the game. And then when it was time to call some things that put guys in conflict, I thought they were well designed. And in those plays, they take a lot of work, you know, whether it comes from the design of the play really in the week, then it comes to, you know, how we're going to wrap them. The scout team look the protection. I mean, there's just so much that goes in like the one play to Mecca. I mean, that took a lot of work and meetings, walkthroughs, corrections the next day. Just to get to that, get to be a competitive excellent. Then you got to get the right coverage, you know.

58:11So a lot of things came into play and even just a strain by Donovan on that play just to give enough to push that, you know, defender off to give will one more second to flip the sips to get the ball thrown. So, but that's what it takes in terms of execution. Those plays were well executed and we need more of that. And we got to be clean and simple so our guys can play fast. But I do think he called a good game. Yes. How much of that is experienced just in games and how much of that was experienced in atmosphere like that he's been in atmosphere like that. So he wouldn't be overwhelmed by the moment. That was what we were counting on. Yeah. And I do feel like Carson was practicing better. But I can't sit here and tell you that there was a whole bunch of practice that, you know, put him ahead of anybody else. But then when he had the opportunity, that's life. He grabbed it. But now now, now where we're going from here. You know, I mean, again, that, the Penn State games over like we got to worry about pretty well. We got to keep moving forward. So, you know, now we'll see kind of how things go as we move forward. But he showed he can do it. And again, I hope that builds confidence for him as he moves forward. One of the Penn State offensive lineman said after the game that he felt like your D line was doing things, particularly against the run that they hadn't seen all the time before.

59:18Some stunting and things of that nature. And it does this until the last two weeks. There happened some noticeable differences with structures of these things like that. Where are you, I guess, in putting on the field some of the conversations you guys had coming off of the Oregon game. How has that looked to you over these last two games? I think I mean, it's looked the way that we've wanted it to look. You know, we almost, you know, kind of a goofy word, but like reengineered the defense. We had to almost start from scratch after the Oregon game. What I mean by that is not like, you know, scrap everything, but like, okay, what are the base foundations of what we're trying to get done? Who are best players? We got to put our best players in a position to be successful. What are teams, you know, scheming us up, you know, in terms of what are they looking at? And you start going through that process and you almost have to kind of knock it down and rebuild it a little bit. Now, you know, to the naked eye, there's probably not a lot out there that you're really noticing. But there's significant things that are going on that I think are giving our guys confidence. I think we're doing a better job putting our guys in a position to be successful.

1:00:19I think we're getting lined up better. So we got to keep building on it though. I mean, a lot of football left and we've already put a lot of football on film. So we've got to keep upgrading. And there's that line of, you know, doing what you do well and being able to play really fast and then making sure that you have enough changeups. So guys can't, you know, nail you down. I imagine that's only possible if you have veteran players who can handle those kind of things like how much of the key has not been as you changed it. But it wasn't, it wasn't, I guess it wasn't like hey, we're redoing all of this. It's like let's just trim all this out of here and just focus on these things right here. These are the best things we do right now and then kind of go off and have the one off from there. So like again, you know, you didn't all of a sudden start to see, you know, a three down front. You know, so it wasn't like that. It was just really cleaning up some of the communication, how we do things, putting the right guys in the right spots. But, you know, it doesn't take much to be a little bit off.

1:01:20You know, and I think that, you know, we're moving towards where we want to be. And you know, there's going to be really good offence is coming out of here soon. By the way, I think Purdue's offense is playing well. I think both quarterbacks are talented. They do a good job on offense. So like, you know, if our guys think that like they're just going to go out there and play this Saturday, they're wrong. I think, you know, they're a much better team than their records shows. So we got to have a great week of practice and keep growing. And you know, if anybody in this building here is thinking about last week, then they're distracted and that can't happen. How do you feel about that kind of building off that road foot deep fence? How much you say you want to be more involved in meetings and hands on? How much do you think that's helped in kind of the reengineering and changing a little bit? I mean, I think we have a really good system in place. I think we have really good coaches. I do think that maybe just being in there and being a little bit more systematized in terms of, you know, here's what we're thinking on first and second down.

1:02:22Here are some thoughts I have. How do we tie this all together? How do we put our best players in place? You know, what are we thinking here on third down? What are the first few calls in the red zone? And just, you know, making sure I got a good feel for that. And then giving just a little bit of feedback, not a lot. I don't want to bog them down, but a little bit of feedback on what I'm seeing as an offensive coach to make sure that you know, they know not only on that room together. Like, you know, when they leave, like they're on the same page, but I think the communication has been good. And I think, yeah, I do think at least being in there has helped. Listen, you know, talking to the coaches and making sure on the same page. If you're going back, you covered a crossroads game against Penn State. There were things said after the brass game, after the organ loss, there was obviously a big game moving in Happy Valley. You guys win that game, how have you seen the energy from the week before? Kind of shift now in this in this place with everything now in front of you. We'll find out today how we do it, you know, in our 230 team meeting and how we do it practice and where we go to Purdue.

1:03:27That's it. You know, I mean, was it a good win? Yeah, it was a good win. But it's just allowed us an opportunity to go chase our goals. That's all it's done. You know, we knew we had to go do that. And, you know, we knew when we looked at the schedule going to Oregon to Penn State, we're going to be two great road opportunities for us. You know, we didn't get the first one. We got the second one. So that was good. But a lot of football ahead of us. And that games behind us now. Hey, folks, I'm Matt. We can try to keep one question. We'll talk about that time. Our last two new things will be DNA. Because Jeremiah Smith is on to such a great start. He scored a touchdown in every game before this one. Your perspective was it how would you make the fact that he actually didn't score a touchdown? We just didn't connect on it. Yeah, we wasn't for lack of trying. But, you know, he is off to a great start. And I thought even for again, for a freshman in both of these two environments, you know, he didn't he didn't flinch at all. And I think now we're now that we're in mid year. He's become a veteran player. He's not really a freshman anymore in my eyes. Steve L.A. at 24.4.

1:04:28Yeah, coach, the last drive when I asked about that first player on the one yard line, you got to get it out of the shadow of your in zone to avoid a safety and get them all back. That play ends in the quarterback and all five of the offensive linemen are together at the five yard line. Just, I mean, you could have had two or three of them get there, but everybody got there and she'll have been safe back. Just how important was it to start it by taking away the risk of the safety and then going from there? Yeah, I mean, that was that was it. I mean, we're we're backed up on the one foot one yard line and we got we got to bang it out. We got to get that first first down. Not only do you get to get past the five because of the backed up punt, but you know, you got to get that first down. You got to get it out of there. And, you know, we know there's going to be a ton of guys in the box and it's just going to come down to, you know, running through the extra guy and making sure you get moving up front. But to see the offensive line jump up and fist pump and, you know, we'll get the thing out. I think to the four or five yard line. I mean, just I mean, that's what we needed right there in that moment.

1:05:30And the huddle was like that. And then in the next play, you know, what we're on getting vertical and, you know, getting downhill and started with the offensive line. But how they're running backs ran hard to, but that's got to be who we are. I mean, that doesn't matter if we don't do it again next week. It's got to be the same thing. So, but good to see us finish that finish the game that way. I know you didn't get to the lead no doubt part of this game, but it turns up the way that the new playoff structure isn't everything. How much does that matter in retrospect anymore with when stopped? Like, aren't really as big of the owes as they used to be? Is it as a win or win? Yeah, win is a win. And I was thinking about that a little bit this week is, you know, with us huddling now and with everything going on. Like, it's a different style of game. Yeah, I don't remember finishing a game with five some odd minutes on the clock. And that was it. I mean, the game was over milked it out. And we had some longer drives. And, you know, we're not snapping the ball at 20 seconds. So the number of plays are way, way down.

1:06:31It's almost more like an NFL style of game nowadays because you're huddling. So, yeah, the number one key is turnovers, rushing yards. You know, all these situations become more and more critical. And we do good job in the red zone. You know, it's cost us the game. And so the situational football becomes more and more important. But, yeah, I mean, these games are going to be that way because, you know, we're huddling now and a lot of teams are huddling now. And so, you know, I just think that, yeah, the game has changed a little bit in terms of that. Certainly much different than it was, you know, five years ago when it was just back and forth and high scoring game. So, efficiency and execution are all time high. And, you know, one more. You talk several times now about that. The goal line stand and you can talk about defending an inch of grass there. But just what goes into from your eyes, a goal line stand, and what is important for getting that sort of a stock? Because, obviously, it had two of them on side of that. Well, it starts with the guys up front. Yeah, it starts with K-Mac and Hero and Ty and JT Jack.

1:07:31I mean, those five guys holding the line right there. And then it's this next level of guys. It's Cody, it's sunny, you know, those guys. And then like as the pile is there, I mean, you got to push that pile back. You got to drive it back. I felt like in the four-minute drill in offense, like we were pushing the pile one way. And I thought, you know, the goal line stand, we were holding our ground right there and pushing the pile. It's just a mindset, you know, that, you know, we got to go win this game. And to get two stops inside the five guard line in this game was the huge difference. That murky point of worth that support. When you talked about Caleb and his intelligence taking meetings to the field and all that. I think some people just look at the stats and say he's not having the year. He had it all of them up last season and understanding it's a different defense. But just Saturday show exactly what you're talking about where he's taking away a guy like Tyler Warren. He's making plays. It's kind of the culmination of things with him. Yeah, yeah. No, he's all over the field. He's had a huge impact on our defense and had some huge tackles in the game, some huge plays in the game.

1:08:36And he's a huge part of our defense. Awesome work. I'll give you an image in that shot to Jeremiah. It was just fractionally awful. There was another to Carnell. I think the first flush instinct is always just look at the quarterback. When you evaluated those two plays, what could be done not just by Will maybe to execute those. Carnell did a great job off the line of scrimmage. Got behind the defense. The cornerback slipped a little bit and there really wasn't anybody there. And Will in that moment, you know, just needs to keep the ball a little bit more inside. And the carnell made a great catch, but you know, kind of landed out of bounds. And then on the second one, you know, I think Jeremiah felt like, you know, the safes were so deep that the ball wasn't coming his way. And you know, we tell Will and if he's anywhere near the depth of the safe, you just launch it as far as you can. That's what happened. So, you know, he just has to stay with it. But you're right. I mean, those are two missed opportunities that could have been much different. You referenced that earlier. There were pros and cons. You could have not been in that game. Those are the ones you think about.

1:09:38The turnovers, the conversation with Will, these are four opportunities that change things. I mean, that's why, you know, execution, we got it. We got to be efficient. We got to execute. You know, I think the mentality and the physicality and the toughness was all there on Saturday. That's it. And in the end, that's what won the game. And so that's good, but you know, it doesn't need to be that way if we're executing better and cleaner and taking care of football and those things. So, you can do both. They're not mutually exclusive. So, looking to combine all those as we head into the back half of the season. Follow up with Tegrif and Rullier. Do you feel like he's, you know, firmly that starting right guard for you guys at this point? Are you still looking to mix an Austin and American? Yeah. No. I mean, Austin's ready to go. And he maybe would get some reps, but Tegrif's our right guard right now. Andy, back to the letter call. It's time's just surprised. He's a me classical season. Just how validating would see the way the line played on Saturday. And it was just one year. You could put him for just an how valid. Did you review for trusting the process? Yeah. I mean, a big step in the right direction for sure. And if we can keep building on this, then yeah, that'd be a heck of a deal.

1:10:44And I think, you know, it's staying after it and being resilient. And that's what it's going to take. You know, and I think now, you know, there's a confidence coming out of it. Like, okay, we just did this. This is who we can be. But it's no good if we don't do it again this week. I know what you like about it. I know what you like about it. I think it's a lot of things to like about him. You also talked about the things that went on in Penn State. This team is obviously loaded. How confident are you that he is the quarterback who can take you to the championship level? Yeah, I think what you saw at the end of the game, you know, made a difference in finishing this game. We hadn't really finished a game like this in a while. But having his legs, having his physicality and all that made a big difference in this one. So now we know, you know, how capable he is and a lot of different areas. He is the leader of this team and the guys believe in him.

1:11:47You know, we know we can win every game with Will Howard. And so I think the more and more he's in this offense, the more and more he feels what it's like to be. The Ohio State quarterback, the better. But at the end of the day, it's about winning the game. And he did that and he's a winner. So again, a lot to come out of the game, a lot to learn from. And you know, we have to play cleaner, but you know, we love his fire. We love his competitiveness. We love his composure. The guys believe in him. And he can make a lot of throws. What is Zen status if he does return this week, next week, future time? How does that prompt you to just evaluate your left side of the game? Yeah, we'll see. Yeah, right now we're going to stick with what we have. If Zen were to become available, then that would give us more options. You know, I don't think he'll be available this week. He is getting getting better. So we'll kind of see how he is and have an update later in the week. But I think we're in it right now. The focus will be to stick with what we got right now because we feel like there was a good synergy coming out of that game.

1:12:49And final question. 10 May. Oh, five weeks. I got this. I got this. 10 May. You want to go next? No, no, no. Okay. Hey, Brian, was there was there a drive? Obviously, the last drive was gutter rolled to the to the end degree. But was there a drop Saturday where you looked out there and go? This is what I envisioned when I brought in Chip Kelly and Will Howard, etc. Where you just felt like things were under control, so to speak. It was kind of what you envisioned. This offense being about. I would say the responses after the interception, you know, we kind of went out there without, you know, any hesitation and just started rolling pretty good and the combination of run pass and play action and all that was really what we're looking for. And I think the perimeter blocking, you know, has got to be better. We left a lot on the field because of some of those perimeter blocks. And so, you know, we're going to work hard to get that fixed. But yeah, I think the response that we had after the interception for touchdown.

1:13:49That was just a confidence level that I think had an effect on the whole entire game. And then it just responded like that. And then the other drive we got down there and through the touchdown to Brandon and it was good run pass mix there. I do think if we connected on a couple of those shots because that still has to be a part of our game, then, you know, you feel a little bit different coming out. Obviously the ball coming out on one yard line. That was a good drive as well. I mean, the block that Travy on had, I mean, no one's going to talk about that because we've fallen on a play. But man, it was a great play. I think it was good run pass. We were efficient. You know, enough to win the game, but we need to be more efficient. You see those guys, like you say, Quichon and Travy on something now. I mean, I mean, that just tells you everybody gets it. What do you know? Well, that's the mentality. The mentality was right in the game. And it's got to be continued to be. That's what we got to start every week. That's the mentality. But, you know, you want the scoreboard to look different and execute better. And finally, question. I just, even with that, that's where our George and Ian more in terms of their level development right now.

1:14:55Something else will happen. Yeah, yeah. I mean, they're ready. They're working hard. They're getting the reps in practice. And, you know, they got to stand ready. You know, sometimes it's not always easy to be that guy who's one snap away, but hasn't really been in the game much. So, you know, if it's appropriate, we'll try to get him in the game to get him some game reps. But, they need to keep coming. They need to get the reps in practice and be prepared because you just never know how it's going to shake. And the radio show you say, who communicated to you guys? I do it was clearly trying to figure out your guys' snap count. That makes you guys want to switch some things up there and be caught up on the... Oh, he's, you know, there was nothing like in terms of communication. He's a great player who tries to get a jump on the ball. You can see that on film. And so, you know, we came over. You know, there was a timeout. And then he just said, you know, in this third down, there's an opportunity to get maybe, you know, a free one here. And so, you know, we don't typically use a bunch of cadences when it comes to silent count. But the guys were disciplined enough to use the double head bob. And that was enough to get a first down, which turned out to be pretty big.

1:15:57Anytime you get those first downs like that, it was big. But we had everybody over in the sideline and we communicated that to Seth. And Seth was great and the guys, you know, hung in there on it. And it was a big play for us. Coach, thank you very much. I think you're right. Did you feel, ever run up against an offensive on the field like, do you feel like you're at a good way from now where you can do things against them, no matter what offensive loss you are? I mean, yeah, I mean, this year is kind of different because I obviously I'm closer to the ball. But it kind of feels the same. You know, the thing I like being able to play, so he's like tiny things up and being able to run full speed and be able to hit somebody and catch them off guard. And that's just what I'm able to do now. This only ball and closer to him. We haven't really talked about like a few guys, but he's talking about like, what is the beginning? I got the chance to work with him with my, my junior at the opening.

1:17:00But that was different because I was playing off guard. Boom. Yeah, that's the thing we got. They know what Smith is going to do. Let's see the way that he coaches. I mean, he doesn't give a lot of this to his eyes to make him kind of what is his style? It's very intentional, but he knows that we're hitting him. So, you know, he knows nobody's going to be perfect and it's okay to mess up, but the thing is being able to learn from that mistake and not do it again. How different is this? How different is your future? What's up? How different is your future? It's different, but like I said, I've just been enjoying the ride. You know, I like riding on that, so I'm just going to grow at this fight and get to where I want to go. Imagine that we're in the process. 100%. 100%. That's what I said. No, it's very hard. Even if you just look at our 2020 hoop class, we've got a lot of guys. Now we're probably going to have like five or six guys here, exactly.

1:18:01So being able to just stick it through and just, you know, I feel like these things here, each year, I feel like I was telling this thing. Because yeah, it was opportunity to transfer, but I just kept feeling like God just stay. Let his will be done, just let his will, you know. Is it true or is it like when you know you may make a misplition change? No, I try to, every little drill that we do, I try to make sure I'm doing it to the team. I don't like to mess up, and that's why you see me after practice working with Coach Johnson or Coach Patricia, because of the fact I know it's very urgent, but I still feel like I have time. I'm going to spring about 158 days probably to replace it. So I'm going to be there throughout December, obviously. What exactly did you start to make that transition though? And you heard they were hiring an officer in this corner? Um, obviously in December it was different because we had Coach Knows here, and Coach Knows here somewhat.

1:19:07He was telling me different ways he was going to use me with the Jagged and where he was going to have me line up and things like that. Coach Day, what he was telling me was, we're going to bring in different coach and just, you know, there'll just be a specific coach just for the position I was playing. That way it could just be easier on everybody. And that probably was just going to be Coach Knows because obviously it's his defense, but with Coach Patricia coming in, I feel like it's a lot easier on everybody because of the fact. Like I said, his experience and everything that we're doing now, it just feels like everybody can just play faster to be themselves. When you see my question, 158 days, what would you know that number? We talk about it every day. Yeah, Coach Day brings it up every day. It tells the fact that we got to, like, yeah, we have one good day today, but we do have to stack day on top of day on top of day because of the fact that we played Texas and Texas is just in the playoffs. You know, they're not on sawdust either. You know, that they're probably in the same mindset as we are right now because they lost a lot of starters, but it still doesn't mean that. I mean, see guys like that like a part of the real part of they started their career trying to back with the edge.

1:20:11How much does that inspire you to see what comes to that? No, I feel like watching those guys. I feel like you can see like it helped them in the longer, especially with the blue, especially with the blue, especially with the blue last year because of the fact it was, it's first year on the line of scrimmage, but I'm. No, obviously I watch those guys. I watch other guys, but I'm on the way. Deep in tabs on everything because like Costa Dei said, you guys are just for the day you show up here. Yeah, I think that's leading. Are you are you doing the little things instead of what's that like? I think that's the fish ball. Kind of with that report. When you're at a big time program, I'm like, how to stay. I think everyone's judge. You know, everything you do is important. How you hire locker looks important. All the small details. How do you handle all good? Colin, you basically the air parent. I mean, a lot of people think you're going to be the guy. What do you think you have to prove over the next several weeks? And then I don't know. I always say the outside noise. I'm just focused on getting better every day. You know, getting ready for Friday's practice. I just I'm thinking about practice.

1:21:12I was going to kind of ask the same question and then how do you handle that? Like having that really people here to watch a practice or you know, being or walking around in Columbus when you know that the quarterback is probably the most judge position. Maybe in all of college football. You know, I think, like I said before, I'm really just focused on the fundamental. So I'm improving every day and just getting better. You know, taking what coach day, coach making, coach wrestler. Bringing to us the course. What do you think you have to do? I'm very excited to see this. Yeah, I think this winner. I've gained a little bit of weight and got stronger. So that was a big point. This is the winner. And I really just, you know, focusing on just getting bigger and stronger. I've looked about, I gained about 10 pounds of soul shit. How much better? I feel good now. I feel good now. Just, you know, being a little bit heavier.

1:22:13It was good. It was big, big thanks to coach Macon. It's so easy. What do you think of being the starting quarterback? What does that look like? Yeah, it's definitely, definitely the goal. We're so long as life. It's just different. We got 15 times easier. What should that person look like? Yeah, I think, you know, the first guy in the last guy out, kind of like everyone says. And being that leader of the offense. What are you able to do last year? What's that I with you last year about, you know, Billy Fessler, what he was able to do with the quarterbacks and how much did you specifically get to work with them? Yeah, he had so much impact on our quarterback room last year. Him and Coach Kelly both did a great job with us. And I was really appreciative of those guys. We worked closely with the Coach Fessler, and I was happy to see him yell. How much different do you feel when you talk about putting on the way through? Do you talk to your younger, your spring practice? You can just get in here and come from Alabama. How much different a year later do you feel in this program as a quarterback all of a sudden? Yeah, I think when I first got here, I was still learning how everything works and learning what you're doing.

1:23:18And now I think I know what I'm doing within the plays or within how the program works. So I think it's been good to just get adjusted, but still trying to improve. And when you talk about toughest guide, first one in the last one or one, there's two other guys that are trying to do that. How do you be that guy when two other guys know that that's what they're trying to do in that job? Yeah, I think it's our room is very competitive, but we're also very close. It's only three guys in our room, so I think it's important for us to just be close, but also better. I'll actually give you a throw to watch. Go ahead. Watching you throw one of the biggest things that stands out, I think is how quick you release is. Still, I'm actually thinking about how did you develop that quick approach? I think I've naturally had a kind of a quick release. And I'll come out of high school, I was always, I was just kind of had a quick release and I've been trying to get a quicker. You, yeah. You said to watch Will and Devon to the battle last year, what did you learn from that?

1:24:20Maybe you was looking to kind of take it and understand it. It's competition, I was trying to get each other better for the team. Yeah, I think Will and Devon had a great friendship, but they were all sparing competitive. So I think it was definitely good to see and that's the thing that we have in our room this year. I want to show the toughest guy with nobody to touch with friends. I think there's a lot of ways to show toughness and support back. I think taking mental reps, finishing out plays, bursting through the line, I think all those control techniques. Just like you. We spent a lot of hours here watching tape, getting ready to practice, so we spent a lot of time. I'm going to get it right. I'm going to stay made with my team. I wouldn't say that. I think the whole core program is held to a standard. We all are together in this tournament, beyond time and in the show. Just how it was a little bit easier for me, like I've said, just a familiarity with the facility and the people and the coaches.

1:25:22So the rest of you have already built and they kind of understand how I learned and how I operate in my mind. So they've been able to coach me and adapt to how I learned and teach for my things. Is that your position or your practice field or in the classroom? You know, the biggest thing that I've tried to focus on is translating everything from those mediums to the field as quickly as I can. Just picking up on every quick note that I can. Any advantage I can get on my opponent, I want to have that advantage. So I learned everything in the meeting and trying to understand to the field as much possible. How do you do that? Yeah, coach Fester and Coach CK, our system for best coach and other quarterbacks in Tata. We get together like I walk through. Whether that's just me, Tomane and Havana, a little meeting with Coach Fester before workouts or after workouts. There's something going on every single day, just to build my development and really give me, like I said in that management, I'm just trying to learn everything I can and be the best partner.

1:26:27Coach Fester, what are you doing? Yeah, really like I said, just learning everything. I got to understand why we're doing things we are doing. What we are trying to do with it and how we're going to do it and how we're going to accomplish it. That's still a learning thing for me. I'm just trying to get better and amplify it and make it better so that I can try to practice. I'm ready to go. I'm going to do a lot of things. I'll open this up until I realize I was five stars in the whole country. You get to hear there's just a little things like that. Is it public? Is it eye opening? Is it scary? Yeah, definitely very eye opening for me just because I didn't. I think coming from the place that I came from, like you said, not doing under-center and things like that. There's little intricate details even to just taking a step under-center that I never knew were there because I never done it.

1:27:29So learning that stuff and finding something that has to go into being a great quarterback. It was definitely very eye opening. The first day I got here, I was touching on to everything I did. So I'm just working to see if you will feel comfortable. What are you doing today? I like what I'm doing. Versus the things you want me to do. Yeah, really just, you know, I think I'm getting better every day. That's the main focus. Just trying to develop everything with that. Get better at everything and I can. Be a better leader for the team. Be a better teammate. Be a better person outside of practice. That's really been the main development. We'll see where it takes me throughout the spring. I'm just trying to get better at everything that I've ever done. I've been focusing on the focus. And now I'm doing these two four weeks of play-off. You're watching us on a lesson. So close to what you had. I've got to focus two hundred. The better leadership that you have for your team and the close relationships that you have, the longer it will take you. With him, I saw just nobody hated, but nobody just like everybody loved.

1:28:31He was comfortable talking to anybody. And that's something I'm going to carry with me. Just trying to be familiar with everybody. Know everybody. Know everything about them. That's really been the main focus. It's been a relationship with people that I don't know what they thought to. And I'm really just trying to build that chemistry around the team. It's been the main focus. You get a buddy that I've been all the time coming for you. Is there a brother like what they would be doing? You get a little bit of a small team real. It's kind of difficult to do that. But this way you're at it. Yeah, I think the first time that I had taken a snap with my offense on the field. It was like, this is actually happening now. And it's not just a dream that I'm trying to make happen. It was a dream that I'm living now. And so I just take every opportunity I can. Bless to be here. I love it here. I'm not a little chained for the world. So, we're just going to do some great. Really just like I said, you're better every single day. The guys in the room are with the best in the country. So you just got to compete every day. I don't know how to say that's what they breed. So, competitions will be taught. And that's what we do. So, really just get better every day.

1:29:31That's been all of our focuses. I'm going to try to work. Amen. I was curious how you assess Texas offense. And they've had their struggles in the running game. So they look like a team that kind of passed heavy and leans into the past first. And how would you evaluate that part of their game? I mean, you could say as you say the struggle to pass a few games of the running game. But I think they got a super explosive running game. If you watch the game, you can see that they're going to be a little bit more aggressive. I think they got a super explosive running game. If you watch the Clemson game, I think they put up almost a 2050 Russian or something like that. I think they're a team that's capable of putting up around 50 points if you let them. So, I mean, we're deep in the shoulder ready to play. It's in an extremely talented offense on all three levels. I think the quarterbacks are great players. The running backs are very, very explosive. She was very explosive. We got great tie-down and great online. So they're well-rounded offense. And you guys are big favorites in the game. Do you worry at all about, you know, overconfidence or complacency just because the way you all have dominated the opposition so far?

1:30:31No, I don't think anything outside knows matters. I think there's things that you said about it before. We won those two games and now they're thinking about us after we won those two games. And those things might be different. It really doesn't matter to us. We're just focused on the opinion inside the Woody. And we know we got a bear in egg in every single week. I mean, it's a really good team. It doesn't matter how it beat the last two teams. This is a whole completely different team. Thank you. Sorry. That's all our questions on Zoom. All right. We'll go back to the local level here. Phil Revenoins, Columbus Dispatch. I mean, you guys travel. You're fans travel very well, but obviously this game is in Dallas. Do you guys kind of thrive and like the playing front of the hospital crowds? I think guys kind of like going into the enemy territory sometimes. You know, it feels good being a little bit of the villain you could say, but uh... Yeah, I mean, obviously you got to take into fact that it isn't in Texas. So it could be a lot of environment. It could be like in a way environment. We obviously know that.

1:31:31But I mean, that's where you put the ball down. We're just going to come show up and play. And I think there's a staff that you guys, your opponents have not been called for a holding call since September or something like that. Is that something that you guys are aware of? And do you guys point out on the film? Anything called that one? Anything called that one? Yeah, we're aware of this. You don't pay attention to too much. So you guys just play. Um... I don't really have too much to say about that. You guys just play through it and just let your talent take over it. I want to come down to a rest decision. Over here to the right, Austin Ward, the podcast. So I mean, it didn't feel like against Oregon that you guys had to blitz as much as you had been. Maybe some other games in the second half of the season. Why is that? What does it allow the linebackers to do when you don't have that responsibility? What made that a successful approach on Wednesday? Yeah, I think when you got as talented as the guys we do in front, with those four guys up front, I mean, a four-man pressure is feeling like a six-man pressure to the quarterback.

1:32:31So you're able to drop out and you're able to drop everyone else in the cover. So it makes it a lot easier on our defense when the defensive line is just taking over like that. It's tough for an offense to do anything. We got four-man rush, feel like a zero coming at you. And then you got everyone dropping into the cover. It's kind of just shelt over the field. I mean, it definitely makes the defense a lot easier for everyone else when the defense line's playing like that. Jim Knowles had talked about this a little with having so many veteran players that you could make different game plans. You don't have to just be, you know, pigeon-hold into one thing. We've got to week. Does it feel when you get in there and you guys start game planning? Like they are very different for every opponent for you guys at this point? I don't know if I would say that. I think they keep it simple enough where guys aren't like confused when we're doing. I mean, it might look like that for like the quarterback. We might be giving them different looks and things like that. But I don't think it's over-complicated at all.

1:33:31I mean, that might just be because we've got a veteran defense as well. It could be a little bit biased, but that's kind of the way it feels. It doesn't feel over-complicated when I got. I will go to Joey Coppen Columbus this back. Sonny, how do you think it's helped you guys to have the kill of downs, drop down more into the box? Laying the season I've been doing that seems like more, how does it help you guys? Yeah, I mean, I think both of our safety's have done a really good job, you know, dropping down in the box and being able to come down fast and run support. I mean, I think when you see guys coming from 12 yards and they're making tackles for two yards games, it's all that's pretty impressive. I mean, we saw Latham's last game come from the weak side, boundary hash, about 10-12 yards, you come down, hit the dude at two yards, and then home was knock him out. So, I mean, both of our safety's are super impressive in the run game. So it definitely makes the deal. It helps with the defense, you know, usually you're dropping the safety in, usually those with four yard runs, five yard runs, and where they're stopping for two yard runs, no yard runs. So, it's super impressive and it helps the defense out a lot. We'll go to Jeremy Birmingham, the podcast.

1:34:33So, how much does the defense structureally changed since the organization, or is there some more of the lost side, about you guys just being more better in and knowing the defense better, or has there been fundamental changes that have been made? Because it looks a lot different. Yeah, I mean, I think there's been some changes, but I think a lot of it's been a mentality of trying to be a speed more aggressive, and we're just trying to, it's having an aggressive mindset. I think you've seen that in shows up on tape, with the pressures, the TFLs, and things like that. And I think we've gotten a lot better since the beginning of the year, and we've kind of improved on the issues that have shown up each week, because the issues are always there. And I think we've improved on those really well, and obviously looked like completely different teams now. You got a different aggressiveness from the coaching staff, since then, not just the coach knows individual position coaches like coach Lord Knight, but even from my day, like, is he been a different type of leader?

1:35:34I think he's been a great leader the whole year. I think after that team of Norfolk, we kind of hunkered down and say, hey, we're going to get up, and we're going to start swinging, and we're going to keep swinging as hard as we can, and see what happens at the end of the game. And I think that's what we've been doing the past two games, and it's worked out pretty well. Next to Mick Walker, Letterman Row. So, you mentioned a great fight in earlier. What stands out to you about Gunner Hellman? How do you kind of take out a guy that's such a focal point for us? I think he runs a great route. He has good hands. I think they set up some really nice plays for him. You see some of those plays where he kind of sneaks out of the protection and comes out wide open. I think the biggest thing that stands out is probably the routes in the hands. He's super impressive for a tie-down. Obviously, y'all always be aware of where he's out on the field, and there's going to be some explosive play set up for him. Any other questions here? Absolutely. Yeah. Letterman Row. I'm sorry. Good minute, Rupshed.

1:36:34Jerry. When you were in a nutshell, how would you describe him to someone? Because he seems even more effective when he kind of gets out of the pot, or moves around and stuff. So, what do you see when you think of him? I would say the capability of like Erwin on the game, no him getting his routine. Those routine throws, routine throws. They run the ball. It's play action shot. 50 yards in the field. It's like that. I think he's a super good job of that. Being able to sell the play action and pull the safety's up. And then hit you down, feel it. The 60 yard bomb, something like that. So, I think that's the biggest thing that stands out to me on film. He's a super talented quarterback, super talented arm talent. He can get the ball on many different ways. But, yeah, that's probably how I put it in the nutshell. He's just super talented player. He can make any throw on the field. Like you said, he can move around a little bit. I don't think people respect that enough. His legs, he can move around and extend the plays. It hurts you down, feel. Did he really use to be in this building, at least for four or five months?

1:37:35I wasn't really here with him, but, I don't think it's really odd. You played some former players before, but obviously he's a talented player. I think a lot of guys have a lot of respect for him. So, it's just going to be a good match. I'm excited for it. You're going to build a bit with Columbus this batch. Adam, the win will talk to you next. I'll ask you now. I'm sure it's the last year on your line. Do we talk about, do you have any idea what you can do next year? I mean, you obviously can go to the NFL. Do you have any thoughts on that right now? No, I haven't thought about it at all. Just worry about winning. Scotty, that's it from Columbus for sunny styles. Any more on your end? No more on our end. Thank you, sunny. End of this game. We knew we needed to be physical, play downhill football, and go at him. I think our O-line took that challenge and ran with it, man. Those dudes are bad SOBs, man. They're coming downhill and just rocking people off the ball. I think they're playing really, really good football right now.

1:38:35They're just continuing to get better every single week. I think they played really well last week. I haven't watched the film yet, but I think they played really, really well this week. Who is that? Mech. Love you, Mech. But the overall, man, those guys are playing their butts off. You let Q and Trey do the rest. We say we want to have our O-line get to, and our backs get to every single play. I think our O-lines get in us four, and our backs can get us 60 plus. It's good, and our O-lines playing at a really, really high level right now. Across the board, I'm really proud of those guys. Noah Weiskov, the Lantern. After that first half, what was the message to the team in the locker room? I wouldn't say anything was really different, man. We just came out and we said it's a new half. We always put the emphasis on that middle eight, and ending the first half the right way, and starting the second half the right way.

1:39:36We did not execute the middle half in the first half, but coming out of the halftime, going down, getting a score, getting a couple turnovers, that was huge. Our emphasis was like, we have to come out and start fast. We got to go down, get a score. We deferred, so we get the ball first, and then we got to come out and get some stops. The defense played an unbelievable game today. We got defense, it's going to shut them down like they did. It's hard not to win a lot of games. Andy Baxter, a letterman row. Talk about earlier this year, there's Open, and then there's Ohio State Open. How much of that factor in the Red Zone with a Mecca, and just where you at, with kind of adopting that? Yeah, absolutely, man. It's at one-on-one, you know, is they're open. I've said that, and I have all the trust in the world and those guys, and I've seen them do it in practice. It makes my job easy when I can throw a ball to Mecca on that corner route, that last touch on that we had. Wasn't a great throw, honestly. We practiced that play on the hash mark, where I had a little more time to throw that,

1:40:40and we have it in the right middle, so it's a little more off the hash. I got to be a little quicker with it, and I left it a little inside, and Mecca made a great play. It's just things like that, just giving guys chances. I mean, it's JJ, that one-handed catch is stupid. It's like you just let them go make plays, man, and it's fun to watch. It's easy, and it makes my job pretty nice. Over to the right, James Watkins, Cleveland.com. What do you play in big games before? Which means you played in games before big games before trapped games, something to say. What do you think you learned about a team in these kind of moments? And what did you learn today? Yeah, we said this coming into this game, you know, we were going to learn about this thing. We're going to learn a lot about this team and our toughness and our ability to block out the noise and go down and get to work. And we knew we had a big one coming up this week, but we knew that this was a big one too. And I think our ability to just come out there and play some smash-mouth football a little bit, I think we started well. The first quarter, we only had one drive, it was 14 plays,

1:41:40and we went down and scored. And the second quarter, just two turnovers, a turnover on downs, we beat ourselves. You know, it's never, you know, the other team beating us is us beating ourselves. But, you know, it's all about how you respond, and we came back and we did a great job. So, you know, I'm proud of the way that we played, but, you know, we got a big one coming up next week, so I'm excited. If we can start to wrap up with Donovan Jackson in the back, please, and we've got two more questions for Will Howard up front. Bill Rabinovitz, Columbus Dispatch. Yeah, everyone has been pointing to this already game all season. I was out of his test. How well prepared are you guys? How do you feel going into that game with all the states? I think confidence-wise, we feel great. You know, we've continued to iron things out and get better every single week. And I think that's true. I think we've learned a lot about ourselves and about this team. You know, I think going into this game, you know, we know that it's a big one. And, you know, I haven't really looked at it yet. We knew that this Iowa team was going to be a good team. So, I mean, you know, I looked at it a little bit, you know, on the by-week, and I started checking them out and seeing, you know, what they're about.

1:42:41And, you know, I'm excited, man. It's going to be a good challenge, you know, played against Dylan a couple of times. He's a great player. You know, their defense is good. You know, I know Dan Coach Lannings, you know, a good coach, and he's going to have them ready. So, I'm excited to get home now and start watching some film and get ready for these guys. And final questions for Will, Tim May, Letterman, or all? Yeah, just real quick. Well, the way the first half ended for you is, you know, in a monologue going, hey, I'm better than that. I mean, you know what I mean? Absolutely. I just just get straight down, I guess, at halftime. Any number two, because I won't get another question. You and Dylan Gabel, you know, two guys from a big play, I'm not going against each other, big pin show, yeah. What does that mean to you? Yeah, man, it'll be fun. You know, going into the half time, yeah, I was, I was, yeah, I was, I was pissed at myself, you know, because I feel like it's uncharacteristic, you know, putting the ball in harm's way like that. You know, I want to be safe at the ball in my decision making. I'd like to hang my hat on that. And, you know, it's just like, but at the end of the day, man, like,

1:43:42you just got to flush it and move on. You can't dwell on it too long in the moment. You know, we'll go back right now and I'll go watch the film and, you know, be critical as critical as possible and say, you know, you can't do this. You know, it got to be better. But in the moment, like, it's very, very, very important to just move on and brush it off. And then, yeah, going in and next week, you know, with Dylan, man, I actually, in 2022, we played at Oklahoma, and I was ageing with still plans. But I never actually have got to play against Dylan, but I know him. He's a good dude, man. And, you know, I got one of my boys from K-States, one of their safes. So, I'm excited to go out there. It's going to be a fun game, then. Well, thank you very much. Thank you. I'll go books. You know, I'll go up the table, so it's fun to play with guys like that. And, you know, just opens up the office as I have to. So it's a lot fun. What's the answer to the struggles in the rental and the push down? Yeah, I think we just need to plan up some little things. I mean, it's one of two things every time. So, we definitely got to figure that out and plan it up as we go. Back some of you, we talk about the talent of US head and all men.

1:44:44So, we have those red zone struggles, how do you do? Yeah, I see. I see. I see. I see. Yeah, I mean, these guys take steady. I mean, we know what we're capable of, and there's, you know, we're still confident on what we can do, and we stay confident. So, I'm just saying. First day is, first day is talk about, you know, the first day you can want to succeed. I won't over the field, but especially with the tight ends. Yeah. Does it sound fun as it being? What's it like being part of an office that, you know, has you to do so many different things? Have so many different formations and things like that? Yeah, no, it's fun. I mean, rolling it out with those guys is a lot of fun. Cash, my account is fun. So, it's been fun to do a lot of different things, and it's a lot of different things. You know, I'm just going to see a lot of better roads. I'm excited about that. I guess so. Yeah, I think I've become a lot better. I mean, the goingness is gas every day. I'd be fans in some real business. You have no option, but we're going to have to spend a lot of time. When you're out there, what's your best side? When you've seen it as a rule. Going to be a good guy, I think that's the best thing I've ever seen. Oh, yeah, I mean, we have this four games, trash kind of stuff.

1:45:46We have a lot of different things to make, and I think we're excited about that. See where we can do this. Act as a by week stuff. What's the biggest lesson about that? Biggest lesson, or say, stay in the queue. Don't get to die on the table. I mean, he's going to be up some bounds, but he got to say, you know what I'm saying. When you're out there of JJ, does it amaze you some of the things that he does? Yeah, I mean, you see it every day of practice. So, honestly, now I see it. It doesn't really amaze me as much, but you see it every day. But he has a special talent. You have a chance in certain plays. We get to do that. And then allowing certain guys in certain places to really mess up the whole thing. And then, you see, mess up the quarterback is thinking. So it allows us to have more pressure and be able to allow us to do more moves at the time because it makes the offense confused. And what we're doing is about putting blitzes in there really mixes up the patch first for us. And allow us to get sad. Tim May, under the role. Yeah, with that said, like, for example, S-E-R-D-9 against E-M-A-A-V. I said it right. I think. But he was quite elusive in stuff.

1:46:46Was that a good, I don't know, prep for this week? I mean, because Dylan gave it a little bit different stram, but he still gets the job done. Oh, yeah. That was definitely good to have because, like I said, I mean, all the quarterbacks are very mobile and being, people that have more experience versus mobile quarterbacks helps us, obviously, being able to just help us home and learn from our, where we have, and how to go through the hole and how to unscramble us, where we can learn from those crampals. And we go from that game and the past game we played against Oregon just learning, learning the quarterbacks tendencies. And when they like to run, where they like to run, everybody helps us out, really closing the cage and placing the pocket for them. Is there a fine line between being aggressive but also being wary? This guy can slip away. You're saying what I'm saying, Tommy? Yeah. You can't just go right at him. I mean, go ahead. I'm sorry. Yeah, he's definitely a quarterback and then gets out of the pocket. So I mean, he's definitely a threat. He's a main guy in offense. He runs the show. So I mean, be able to stop him and contain him, really slows the offense down. So be able to cage the pocket and be able to slow him down and make him make more decisions on the run and moving around. That way it helps us.

1:47:47Go ahead. Do you have one more? Him? I'm sorry. Well, no. I didn't want to ask about their center. Their center. What I impressed with you with him was, I mean, you guys played. He seemed to have a pretty good game, you know, and he's kind of a tough guy to move out of there and stuff he looks like. I mean, what's your impression of him? He's definitely one of the better centers in the conference. I mean, he's a really good guy. I mean, be able to be there and there and be there. The size and be able to move the way he can is really hard to get around him at times. But he's definitely having the game plan and working against and working to tend to see that he has and be able to work against that. It really helps me. Why? Yeah. You've got the real middle. Steven Leonard, college football, fouls. Yeah, kind of piggybacking on that. How much of it was there, offensive line being a strike that are team versus Dylan Gabriel being able to escape and the lack of pressures that we had on our defense? Oh, yeah. I mean, when you got a good offensive line, I mean, it makes it even better for a quarterback, you know, to be able to roll out to know that your line was going to help you protect you when you're in the pocket. So, I mean, it makes it easier for throws.

1:48:47And it makes it harder for us, honestly, for having a good offensive line. So, I mean, like I said before, just being able to attack that offensive line, attack their weaknesses and be able to go after them and make it harder for the quarterback, means harder for them or rural. Or for all right. Andrew Gillick, Cleveland.com. What's the challenge? It's similar to Tim's question. And, you know, when you play a team like this that runs the level of RPOs that they do that was going to be able to do. How do you say true and be aggressive and force the issue where, you know, the other players really are going to make it look great. Oh, yeah. Like I said, just putting pressure on them, I mean, do you really get it back there? I mean, we got a lot of different plays that can help us get back to your passer and playing and playing to their tendencies, you know. A lot of times they have the RPO, the RPO helps them out. It means you get the ball out fast. I mean, things like Jackson and JTB, you know, get their hands up, knock the ball down, crazy stream them out of pressure for the quarterback when you got hands in your face all times. And final questions, Bill Rubinole's Columbus dispatch. We've asked about Dylan Gabriel and receivers. They're not one dimensional. They have a good running back in Jordan, James. What makes him special and what's the challenge for you guys?

1:49:47I think he's definitely one of the better running backs on the conference as well. I mean, just how hard he runs is it's hard to bring him down at the time. So, I mean, as a front pro, we probably stopped in the run. That's the first thing we're going to do as we go on the game. I mean, past wrestling is good and all, but we can't stop the run. We're going to run the ball down and throw all the time. So, all the time we have to figure out how we're going to stop them. We're going to run the ball and then we're going to take them down. So, I mean, it's our job as a front pro to go on there and stop the run. We're going to make them one dimensional as we go out there. So, I mean, if you get out there every time every mindset we go out there, I mean, we're going to get them. We're not going to allow them to get in the yards, allow them to get going. We're going to stop them. We're going to make them throw the ball. When JTB was up here asked him about how to compare contrast him and Jack as personalities. What's your take on that? How different are they as just personalities? I definitely think Jack is more outgoing. I mean, the guy that he's like the light that shines around me and everybody goes around him and everybody loves him. He's an outgoing guy. They're going to come to you and shake your hand any time of day. And then JT's more of the glue guy. I mean, a lot of guys gravitate to him.

1:50:48I mean, he just has a bright smile on him all the time. He's just a great guy that people like to be around. I mean, they're two good people, so it's hard to tell. And Ty, I do that one more question for you. Tony Herman, like that. You guys obviously have faced tough, but you did it last week. What's the key for you as a defensive one in facing tempo? Oh, yeah. I mean, we've been going through all week in the past two weeks. It's just getting set. I mean, that's the first thing you do. If you're not set, it makes it harder to do your job. So let's be able to get on the ball, get set before they're lined up, and set the ball is one and more important thing. So when we're set, we're able to do our jobs at the efficiency day before they can do theirs. How does it feel to them? It could be difficult at times. You know, you've got to look to the signline first. You've got to get the call. I mean, the call has to be set down first. It can't be difficult at times, but that's definitely what we've been working on the past three weeks to just get the call, get the call early, get set, so we can go and be play faster. You've changed the play to one side of the field, and now it looks lined up. They're going to be handed to the other side. So like, you've got to just run the signline side like this to get the money. Oh, yeah. I mean, I have been a lot of a last game.

1:51:49You know, it's hard. It's definitely tough. I mean, that's what we work on in practice. We've moved as fast as we can, we've been simulating these things so we can get into the game. It's a lot easier. So we move around side to side, run around, doing extra conditioning just for moments like this. Time. Thank you very much. All right. Thank you. Thanks, John. You want to try to get better every day? Yeah. You know, and never be satisfied. And, you know, he was very demanding. He was very demanding on his players. He's demanding on his coaches. You know, he just, very competitive. You know, and I've said this before, there's a lot of similarities between these two programs. And maybe the personalities are different, but you know, but when I first, first day, I got here. First day, our first staffing coach, Connie, talked about us being a more tougher, more physical, more disciplined football team.

1:52:56And that's all coach and I would talk, you know, those are the things he would talk about, you know. And just having us being, being, being, being the toughest, most disciplined team out there. And, and, and that's, you know, so it's like, it was left here in the same thing. And so, and that's what we're stressing and that's what we want to be. And that's what we're trying to be this year. We hear, and it'll go in the state. Well, some of them, some of them, these best teams, especially early on. And that's the last one. Yeah. It's a line and they got away from that, I don't know, maybe someone would do this. But how do they get back to being like that physical? Well, yeah, I think we got to, I mean, I, we got to be demanding on them and we got to, we got to, instill the toughness. Continue to instill the toughness, continue to instill discipline. And, and just not be satisfied, you know, and, and, and, and just be demanding on them. What does somebody call me? Well, I mean, I just, I just want us to get better every day.

1:53:56And I want us to, my, my goal, again, is for us to, to, to be tougher and to be more physical and, and, and, and, and to be, and to be, to be more disciplined, you know, and, and, and really focus on those, focus on those attributes. And, and I know if we do, that that will carry over to us being successful in the field. Yeah. Being, being such a veteran, how have you seen social media impact recruiting partners? Well, it's impacted quite a bit. Yeah, it's, it's, it's, it's very interesting, you know, and it's, it's taking me, you know, I got it, you know, I got it, you know, while to get used to all of it. I'm not saying I'm great on it, but you're on the Twitter. Yeah, but I'm on Twitter and all that good stuff and so, so, you know, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's been, it's been fine. It's been, it's been, it's been, it's been, it's been, it's been, it's been, it's been, it's been, it's been, it's been, it's been fine. But it is, it is, it is having an impact on, on, on, on, on, on, on recruiting, that's for sure.

1:54:56Yeah. The differences between these types of style of offense and how do you think states are, what does that affect? Well, that's a great question. I mean, that was probably the biggest transition for me was, was just, and one of the most exciting things for me was being able to be a part of this offense, because Coach Gundy's offices have been the best, some of the best in the country period. I mean, they've been awesome. So, I wanted to be a part of that. But with that, it was, you know, it can't just stay, we were, we were, you know, ground and pound, and we were a lot of quarterback running games, something, you know, and, and, but also just taking as much time on the clock as we could, so we could keep the, keep the ball away from other defenses, you know, or for other, other, other offices. And so, just slowing down and that type of stuff. So, here was playing fast and getting guys to, just teaching my guys to, you know, to get up and make the calls and get the points, and that was different.

1:56:00But that's kind of where I was, where I was going to, where I was, you know, where, hey, I just, being able to, to resource Johnny and Marcus, hey, you know, how did you guys do that? You know, what, what were some of the things, you know, and Jason Meckendou was really helpful with that as well. You know, so, but it's been a great transition, it's been a great transition. How does your job in Immigil with Sean Mason, depending upon who wins the quarterback job, one may be more old than the other, what is that, what is the kind of working relationship like? What's been great with Sean? Sean's awesome. I mean, I've said, Sean's got a, he's got a vision. He knows where he, what he wants, and he's very passionate. He's a very intense, very detailed, and so, you know, he, he, he knows, he's got a vision. He knows, he knows exactly where he wants his offense to go, and so I'm really excited. I'm really excited to get a chance to work with him, and the whole offensive staff has been awesome. You know, Waz and Casey and, and Matt have all been great.

1:57:03So it's really good. Touch Gunday talking about trying to recruit you, who can't estate before, obviously, this time. All of those pitches, like in those conversations that I did with him at those times. Well, I mean, it was great. Coach Gunday's, you know, he, he's, he was awesome. And so, it just circumstances, just, for whatever reasons, just didn't allow me to, to, to do it, but, but, but I'm just grateful now for this opportunity. I'm just grateful to give me a call. I'm just that's one thing I am very grateful for. I'm very, very thankful for that he, you know, he gave me that call. So I'm very, really excited to be here. Obviously, we all have work to do, so we're going to keep doing that, but he's a, he's a great guy. What are your expectations? Yeah, you know, just to try my hardest in spring, obviously, moving the fall can be, you know, do my job. And wherever, you know, you're going to put the best five on the field at the end of the day. So whatever coach Boeing thinks that's going to be his decision.

1:58:04You mentioned having four offensive line coaches. How much does that help to have, you know, so many different brain. It definitely helps a lot. You know, whenever you have a question and so easy to get feedback in me, you don't have to ask this coach, but when you guys did, if you want to whoever you want to ask is just so many resources. So compared to, you know, last year we just had, we had three, three guys. It was just in Friday and coach lean and one of a guy, but it's been a lot different. And I've been lacking a lot more. Do you feel like you're able to get more, you know, individual instruction of having so many coaches like that? I definitely said that we know we hold a lot of meetings. So, you know, talking to specific coaches about different things, you know, all them explains stuff a little different just to be able to find one that is, you know, it speaks to you in the way you like it to. So, it's been a lot helpful. So, you said that you changed your body a little bit since you got here. Have you felt the difference already in spring hall? I definitely have, you know, I would say I was a physical in high school, but I've been a lot more physical I can tell just, you know, a coach making the strength staff. You know, they help you a lot, just exposing to all that. So, I appreciate the strength staff a lot. And once you're January, you're with the team, how much has that helped you and the other early enrollees?

1:59:04I'm just getting a pair of businesses, but learning the culture of a high school. So, coach, they asked all the seniors before we came in. They asked us if they were okay for us to come with the playoffs with them, and they all just give it a green light. They wanted us to experience that for the next time we're in the playoffs. So, we can see that I think that's helped tremendously. I think I made this mature just being around those guys and knowing what to do when we do get to that place. Are there ways that you've already seen that fit off? I definitely can say, you know, just maturity-wise, especially from this class. I think we all just came in a little bit maybe immature, but we've definitely grown throughout that process. Just see the way a guy like Dott of Inchax and stepped up for obviously, unless you're how inspiring is that for you? It's very inspiring, you know, me and Dany were pretty close to like, to talk to him a lot. So, you know, just seeing him move from guard to sac, going to just make such a huge jump in that little time was just really cool to watch. Carter, especially the three primary coaches you're working with, do they all speak the same language? If you follow my drill? I mean, who do you listen to most, I guess, in those kind of situations? You know, they're all from different places. So, at first, I think it was a little hard for them to mention the one that will link open.

2:00:05Now they've got it down packed. They're all at the same exact thing. So, that's been helping a lot. I mean, obviously they can explain stuff a little different if you'd like them to, but they've been doing a good job of keeping everything together. And Kurt Dickian in particular, what's he brought? What's he brought to you? What are some tidbits or things he's brought to open your eyes a little bit? Just let the little older playstyle, I could say. He's not like too fancy on all the technique stuff. So, I like just how straightforward he is with all the technique stuff, for sure. Just very straightforward. I know you know Luke pretty well, both being from Toledo. How have you just seen Luke grow here or so far going into this year? I think I've been watching him for a while. You know, I've known him like you said. But I've just seen him grow as a leader. He's been really cool. Just seeing him a while back, you know, think all the software he's just seeing here. We always play to each other. I've seen him move into that leader role, has been really cool to see. What kind of leadership is he bringing to that unit right now? Just always talking to the younger guys, then encouraging us, you know, tell us what we need to do. And not only the younger guys, but the other guys just encourage us as a whole. And what does his story mean to you? I mean, obviously this time of year ago, he wasn't even sure where he was going to fit in or whatever.

2:01:06Now, especially through the playoffs, he was a force. I mean, what does it just tell you about perseverance, but also a season? I think it really just never give up. I mean, obviously you might not start the first game, maybe not even the second game, but you can always make an impact if you really if that's your desire. Who you've been meeting on, so that's going to be a player on team. Nice car. Kind of teach you the ropes. I kind of teach you tricks and tricks. You're so trained to move, you know, all the offensive lines out of the team. I would say Austin and Luke a lot, you know, I talked to him for your office, especially about technique stuff. Austin did play a little different places. So he's been helping me a lot of my small technique things. Just what to do for sure. Is it the small stuff that is a big job from playing golf? Is that really what kind of? Yeah, it's definitely the smaller stuff. There's like, you know, hand protection stuff like that. Nothing to a drastic. So it's been good. The trade just hasn't been too crazy. Exactly what positions in the rep? Only a left tackle. Yeah, so far. You feel pretty comfortable there. I hope very comfortable.

2:02:06Yes, these are grown men. You're going against Kinyata and Kaden, like 22, 23 years old. Yeah, yeah. Obviously that's a lot different than the high school you're playing, what, 16, 17, most 18. So it hasn't been a lot different. I first co-practice were my best, but I definitely adjusted a pretty well this spring. Two more questions. Part of that. I asked Jay-Mont. You guys obviously coached my, it was very close. He came up to Lido, a handful of time, and then all of a sudden by the time you get up here, he's gone. How's it been getting the know the new offensive line? It's been really good. You know, obviously we had all the fresh amount of really good relationship with coach Fry. You know, then seeing him leave was actually a little hard, but we all kept our minds open with coach Bowen, and we're liking him a lot. We've been developing relationships with him, and he's been really good to us so far. Good. All right, sir. Thank you. Thank you. You guys in the room. I mean, I'm not sure. It's probably something you got to ask him, but you know, Jeremiah has played with a lot of great guys throughout his career. He's seen a lot of all the talent you can see in the world. But I don't know if he's ever in all, but I mean, you and all of you.

2:03:09Oh, and I, oh, yeah. I mean, I'm not surprised at anything he does now. Like I've seen him. We were nine years old. So anything he does, anyone hand catch, I've seen, I'm not surprised at anything he does. When he was nine, did you know this is not a, this is something special we've met at nine? Oh, yeah. I mean, coaches were coming up to us complaining that we were nine years old. Like, can we, can we get their IDs and stuff like that? So I mean, I mean, there's definitely some footage that we got to go find, but the place we used to make when we were younger and just to see where he is now is amazing. And it seems very unaffected by all the start. Yeah. How does that happen? I think how he was raised. He's just, he's very level headed. He knows his goals and what he wants to get done in life. And this is just one step of the way for him. Can I throw a back to Texas for a couple of questions on zoom, Scotty? Yes, sir. We're going to start with Defond from Cleaning.com. Go ahead.

2:04:10Brandon, I want to go back to what you were talking about with Coach Day earlier. You know, whenever he talks about this team success, he says all the credit goes through players that seems like the players think that he deserves some of the credit. How big, how influential has he been during the turnaround you guys have had these last few weeks? He's been huge, man. Coming here after that team of Northwest, you know, it was heartbreaking, of course. But we came in here. We had a leadership meeting and he was in here. And then we had a team meeting after that. Hearing the stuff he had to say and we had to say going back and forth, we just, we knew we have his back no matter what. I mean, there's a lot of stuff set about him and his family and stuff like that. But in here, we're brotherhood and we're family and we just, we don't stand by him no matter what. Our next question is going to come from Dan. Hope Dan go ahead. Brandon, I mean, I'm sure you came in here to Ohio State thinking you'd probably be starting here in your second year.

2:05:10But it seems like you really embraced the growth process. Just what's kind of that process been like for you of kind of embracing your role this season and continuing to develop? Yeah. In life, things doesn't go the way you exactly planted to and that just happened. You know, things happened to Mecca last year that allowed him to come back and that allowed me to learn more. And that's just how I see it. It makes me a better football player for the future. So yeah, I mean, yeah, let's see that. Three more on zoom. Next one's going to come from Stefan means. Go ahead. Steven, but I'm sorry. Yeah, you're good. Brandon, there are a lot of clips of you this year where you're super, super excited after a block. And kind of showing your emotion there. What about blocking? Do you love so much as a receiver?

2:06:10I mean, I just being able to hit another guy with all my power. It's hard as I can without any consequences. Except if you hold, of course, but yeah, just bringing that power. I mean, I heard some of the defensive guys telling me yesterday they were like, bro, I hate to go against you. So knowing that from the defensive guys. So I know what the other defensive guys are thinking like, just keep bringing it to them. They're not going to like it for four quarters. That's my mindset. Next question's going to come from Danny Davis. Danny, go ahead. Brandon, what are your impressions of these Texas defensive backs and this kind of we've seen from them on film so far? Yeah, the last couple of days we watched them. They're fast team. They don't give up many big plays down field. They're aggressive, but I actually know some of the DB's they have at corner there. I play with them. Well, I played with Mollick Muhammad at SFE.

2:07:10So I might know him a little bit and we have been watching them. They're fast team. They're physical. They're disciplined. But we just got to get the job done. Give any Malik stories or any any. What do you say? Give any Malik stories or anything you remember about playing with them. Yeah, but I'm not going to say them here. Yeah, we'll just keep that. Our final question's going to come from Kurt Bulls. Kurt, go ahead. Hey, Brandon. One of the issues Texas has had the second half of the year is finishing. And what if you can speak to and they had a trouble, obviously, in the peach bowl, you know, blew a 16 point leak? Talk about finishing and having a killer instinct. And you guys obviously seem to have that now. Yeah, I think that started started in offseason training at Fall camp. We always say go plus two. If you're doing a 10 yard pro shuttle, you have to go plus two throughout the line.

2:08:14And that's just finishing up as well. And then fall camp, we had these long two and a half hour practices or whatnot. And we had to do these finishers. We called them ask for games late in the year like this. And we, I think Coach Day has a great, did a great job preparing all of us for these moments. And yeah, we just were ready to go. We have time for just a couple more questions and clumpets so we can wrap up with our other two guys. Bill Landis, Kings of the North. Brandon, maybe on the second touchdown run. It seemed like you took two players out of the play first with your release and then with the guy you actually blocked. Is that how it's designed? Or was it just lucky to get the guy decided to take off inside of the release? It's actually designed for me to block the safety and lead the corner 101 with the running back. But I was surprised that the corner actually came in so far in my lease. I think he thought it was a pass. But I think he was the edge of the defense. If you go watch that play, but I don't know why he came in so far.

2:09:17But it helped out for us and I made my block and turned it off score. Any lesson there for like a young receiver watching that that even if you know on the play, you're not getting the ball. You're intended to block, but you release has to be at all point as if you're going to go pitch pass. Yeah, definitely. Every little detail matters and then type of plays. We were in a red zone there. So we say every yard matters. It's two yards. So the block I made is just a testament to Kyle coach hardline prep me throughout the week to make that block. And final question. Joy Conference, Columbus Dispatch. Brandon Will and then there's been some of the ball to eat well lately. And some of the special way you guys have opened games. What do you think is this clip for you guys and for him and watching those plays? I'm a lot more confidence. I say throughout the year. We were always there as offense. We had we didn't quite know our identity. And now slowly but surely I think we found that and we're going to keep on rolling. And he's made some great throws and yeah.

2:10:21I'm sorry Brandon. I do have one more steep. How many of the 24-7s for you? Brandon, there've been opportunities for you to play a huge role on offense. And you know the number of plays you play in game can differ from one week to the next. But the opportunity is coming sooner rather than later for you to be in every down player. Just what are the things you need to do in your game to take it to where it is now to be in every down guy? I think there's a lot of things I could work on in my game. I would say continuing to be football smart by IQ. Just knowing what the defense is going to do before they do it. About routes always can get better. My hands always can get better staying on the jug machine. Work ethic, keep on top of it. Don't get satisfied with anything I do. Don't get too big. Don't get too low. Don't get too high. Don't get too low. That's what they say. You feel like a guy that the people follow it seems like. In your mind, even the second you're guy that you're kind of working toward being kind of a leadership type guy.

2:11:24I got to have guys that will take that role. It's a great feeling. Of course, no guys are watching what you do and listening to what you do. But I just feel like we do that with a lot of players here and not just myself. But the leadership we have on this team is like no other. That's why we got so far I think. Brandon, thank you very much for being in meetings last year and being around the program. There's that show up more on the field during the course. If there is any other battles for you. Yeah, I mean, I he wasn't out here practicing last year. You know, so the first time that he was out here running around the field was in December when he came up for practice as an early and rolly or January or whatever that was. So I think there's a little bit of an advantage there just because he did get to see practice before. But again, I think that you do have some understanding and awareness of the offense. And maybe it's not the first time you hear about the formations, but to be able to go and apply that to the field. I mean, that takes a lot of work. So there is a slight advantage there just from how much you use around the program.

2:12:27But I'm not sure if, you know, in the meeting room or on the field, which one affects more ultimately, you know, we're judged based on what we do on the field and our goals to go out there and execute it. How do you guys show that they are the toughest guys on the team when they get the touch? Yeah. We talk about it all the time. So if we want to show where the toughest guys on the team, you know, we can do that by showing where the hardest working guys on the team. We can show that we are the mentally toughest guys on the team. We can make sure that we don't ever get too high or too low and we, you know, play with passion and emotion without letting that emotion and passion play with us and affect us. And, you know, we talk a lot in the quarterback room about moving on to the next most important thing. So if I have, you know, a play where, you know, maybe I made the wrong read or screwed something up, you know, I've got, you know, about half a second, right, to kind of be bummed out about it. Right, but I've got to learn from it. I've got to move on to the next most important thing because so many guys let that first play affect the next play. So we're really working to continue to grow from that.

2:13:27But as far as, you know, showing that we're tough, I even tell our guys that, hey, if I'm, I don't know, lost in cerebellt and I'm watching film. And I see in the back of that film that Julian is up or Tavian is up, but Lincoln and the opposite of Julian and Tavian are standing in the back doing a mental rep. Like that gives me confidence if I'm Austin that those guys, one understand what they're doing into your community to get better, right, and are going to be in position to be tough when we need them to be tough. So like little things like that are something that we're constantly working on to show that we're being in that position. What have you seen from Lincoln in your first year working with him to help you with ease? Yeah, you know, I've definitely seen a lot of growth from getting in here in June last year. And to what we see about now, you know, it's just a full year of understanding the offense, a full year of getting a feel for what we're trying to do and what we're trying to accomplish. And you know, just this one new detail is about where my eyes need to be, how I can tie my feet in with my eyes, how I can make sure that, you know,

2:14:29I'm not just throwing the ball to the right receiver because that's what my red dictates, but I'm also throwing it at the right time. And I'm, you know, I have accuracy within that accuracy that I just displayed by putting it on the right shoulder, right, or the right, you know, to offset our receiver and throw them away from a defender or whatever that may look like. So that's that's what I'm excited because you're starting to see more and more of that from Lincoln as we get into the, you know, two practices. We only have two practices, but, you know, just that growth that I don't think is a growth that happened over two practices growth that happened from the time we got here and I got here in June through through right now. And that's a success. He said no. Three quarterback coaches in three years. Three like all there's in three years can that be like an advantage for him like understanding different concepts and different reads having to see things through different languages because he's had so many different voices and his head. How do you kind of give that? Yeah, I mean, he's had he's had different quarterback coaches, but the reality is it's been the same past game.

2:15:30It's been the same system. So it's not like we changed the way we read a play based on who the quarterback coach was before. We may make makes like tweaks right or adjustments or, you know, I had a new concept in her to, but I think what Lincoln can get from having those three different quarterback coaches is maybe just three different slightly different perspectives where the message is still the same. So maybe it's just a slightly different delivery of the same message. And I think that can definitely be a advantage because he still knows, you know, on this concept, this is where my read is, but maybe he heard it a different way over the last three years. And I guess could be an advantage. If you are he's quarterbacks and they're supposed to be tough as guy first guy, the only last guy to me, but they're all trying to do that. How do you that separate yourself as one of those guys given they're all trying to strive to do the same things? Yeah, you know, I think the ultimately right is can I sustain it?

2:16:33Can I be the guy that does it the most consistently? I think every single one of them, I know every single one of them saw that quote by coach day, which you know, it's pretty awesome. It's so real. It's here we have to be. We've got to be the toughest guys in the building. We've got to be the hardest working guys in the building. So it's easy to go ahead and, you know, do that and be that guy. You know, the next day after seeing that quote, can I continue to be that guy when we're in practice 11 of spring ball or we're in summer and we're going through workouts with coach Mick. And it's June 17th, you know, can I be that guy with that consistency all the way up through fall camp and into moving on into next year? And I think that, you know, anyone can do something just once, you know, what can I be the guy that can do consistency? And if you look at anyone that's done anything great, it's been because of their consistency. What do you think being able to do all the traits? Where does can't we be the quarterback that Ohio State fit in? The kind of magnitude is the able to handle that position? Where does that fit into your evaluation?

2:17:37Yeah, I think, you know, all these guys were a lot of that was done in the recruitment process. I'm confident all three of them can be the guy that I want to say. I think that, you know, those guys are already kind of checked that box. So, you know, now it's just a matter of who goes out of the answer job. And again, we are so far away from that point, but, you know, when we're recruiting a guy, we try to figure out that stuff out. We're gathering as much data as we possibly can to learn about the person and to understand their mental makeup and to make sure that they're fit. It's pretty cool up in the quarterback room. We've got pictures of all the great Ohio State quarterbacks up on the wall. And, you know, you go through and take a look at those guys and, you know, it's just pretty neat. But above all, you can talk about some of the different guys' mental makeup and what made them different. And so, how do we find those guys and bring them in and recruiting? And so, we get to the point like we are now where you feel really confident about all three of those guys that they are, you know, mentally tough enough and can be at that point that they can't be that guy. What do you think they learned the most from Will and the job he did last year overall?

2:18:38You know, close to that? Yeah, I mean, where do I start? You know, Will, when it came to intangibles, was, you know, I haven't been, I can't say I've been doing this for 35 years or anything crazy like that, but was by far the best I've ever seen do it. And just as far as what he did the best, you know, I think it just having such a complete understanding of the offense. You know, from the run game to the task game to the protections, just understanding, you know, the ins and outs and the little details and everybody's job and where, you know, certain concepts or protections or play styles were weak and how to adjust them if we were going to see something that made us weak there. And having that total command because I think, you know, a big part of trust is showing that, you know, I'm competent and I understand. And so Will built that trust in his teammates by showing that, you know, he was extremely competent.

2:19:41You know, he understood everything and all the ins and outs and he could tell everybody on the field what to do. And from there, then he built it, you know, grabbed on and grabbed the trust of all of his teammates and then he could start to lead. So, you know, the biggest thing, it's tough to say. But I think that everything that he did was kind of built off this total understanding of what we're trying to do offensively. Billy, thank you very much. Thanks guys. Thanks for going on with Sean and the rest of them. How much pressure is on his defense to perform to the high level of expectation and the rest of me? Right. I would say that last year was, you know, we excelled in certain things, but we're also trying to get back to where we were in the past. So we got some great additions and we're excited for that. Ultimately, it's to use some of these guys to be the number one defense in the league. And that's always going to be the goal. So whatever we can do to utilize all the different talent that we have on this team to be the best and play as a team and to develop the best chemistry that we got, that's what we're going to do.

2:20:46What's the end of about this offense? Just early in the game. What's the end of that? Yeah, we're not used to going against the normal offense I have been the past three years. So it's been a lot more moving pieces. Definitely have to use your eyes pretty well because if not, then somebody's going to be open. But I like what they're doing. I'm very excited for it. I just know it's making our defense a little bit better because we're having to do different things, not just the normal offense we've been used to. That was going to say just because every other team has some variations of that one and this is, is that kind of, do you think that'll kind of benefit you because you've seen that more than versus way? I would say so. I mean, as the league has changed over time, I think they revert to certain offenses that do well in certain systems. I would say we're taking maybe a little bit pieces from other offense that we see to do well. So I like what we're doing. I mean, I don't know as much as some of these quarterbacks that we have on the team, some of the offensive players, but I just know it's tough to go against.

2:21:51I'm lowest at number last year, but still one of the top two in school in defense. What do you guys really need to do to finish getting it after the quarterback? Yeah, I would just say place heavy emphasis in practice. It's always going to start in practice with getting after the quarterback, not touch him in practice, but making some good moves. I would just say rush more. I mean, there's so much that goes into it, goes with the coverage. Everybody works together. I would say that we had great numbers, but we are trying to get that number up, but the ultimate goal is always going to be the ball. Getting the ball taken away, getting off the field, we're putting our offense out there on the field, and we're staying off. That means that we're doing a good job. When you're already asked about it from a competition standpoint, but from a collective standpoint, having new wins tomorrow, you're going to be able to feel what kind of a cheery-o can do for a defense. The sky's a limit with this group. I do believe we have one of the most talented linebacker core groups in the league.

2:22:53So just excited what we're going to be able to do out there on the field. I think we all compliment each other super well. Bigger guys that are explosive. So I'm excited for it. Thank you, Jimmy. I'm OGs recently, but yeah, it's there. I think you've seen from sunny this off season moving into a new goal. He's really stepped up as our later of the defense. I mean, he's, you know, being in his room. I really get to see how he operates every day. Like he doesn't take a single rep off. He's not just like the most vocal leader, but he's also like, he leads by example. He is one of the biggest, fastest, strong students we have, but he's also the hardest working dude we have. Like he's never skipping out on recovery, you know, watching film. Literally everything he's, you know, he represents what a buck I feel ball player should be in. Just learning from him every day. I just, it's helped me in time. With the pressure you're not going to have.

2:23:55He's, every day, I mean, he's pretty, he's pretty athletic. He knows what he's doing to. He's a savvy football player. And so it's good having him in the locker right next to me and us just talking ball every day. You know, how he could have done this better and I could have done this better. Just making each other better and we're having fun out there and flying around. You guys talk about it. You have a whole new thing, but I just think that it's also kind of built. How does that help him? He has our experience. I mean, it's awesome having him because like he really does understand it. I would say he understands it more than most guys. Like he was a captain in all American here. You know, like the stuff he's doing today, like every day he'll show some sort of, you know, every single week. We're going through camp every day. He's going, he's posting a picture of every all American linebacker we've had. And we got to learn about him, like not just the brotherhood we have here, but the past brotherhood.

2:24:56So we learn new all American linebacker every week. And we got to learn what he did for the bug guys and what he didn't believe and stuff like that. So I think it's helped a lot and then you know, he's having the young guys learn the fight song and pop quiz and stuff. So it's great. We're having a lot of fun. I think it's helped you. Like you go actually a couple of years and you think that's how it's helped you get acclimated to the standard of the opposite. It helps a ton because heat, I mean, like when you walk in the linebacker room, you just, like when I walked in, I was like, man, this brotherhood is real. And I have older guys helping me when I got here because we had a pretty old team last year and they brought me in and I came in on a boot. And I didn't know how I was going to go and they were all cheering me on even though like I was hurting the weight room. I'm getting cheered on in competitions and stuff like that. And guys like they know your name and you know, really, it's helped a lot. So I think this past year has really helped me bring in the young guys and help with them and stuff like that.

2:26:00We're super tight as a linebacker unit. So it's been great. Who's this week's All-American? This week's All-American. Today was Pepper Johnson. So number 98, he was a baller. So we've had one every day. We've had different guys. So we had Spielman yesterday. So it's just someone new every day and it's fun because you get here. Lauren isa's a lot of stories about them, which is some funny stories. He hasn't posted his yet. Eventually, I thank you Will. So we will see. You guys got like us. You guys resonated with like it. You good guys. I think all of them, they're just, they're so, like, there's so many that have come through here. And I think it helps like, there's a standard like you can play linebacker here. Like the goal should be the best linebacker unit in the country across the board and have the best linebackers. And so I think that's really set a standard for us. It's a matter of you. And going out of our way, you're getting it struck.

2:27:01You go from a down. Been there done that. I mean, at the highest level, how much does it enhance what he's telling? Yeah, 100%. I mean, it validates a lot of stuff he says. And I think that's one of the main reasons I liked him so much is that he's not only our personal relationship is great, but like he knows everything about the game. And I'm learning so much every single day. And like you can't, you can't find a coach who doesn't know more about linebacker than he does. And he's been through every situation. He knows, you know, when the offense does this play, what's, you know, what's, what's hard for the linebacker on that play? And he understands it, you know, finds ways to help us, you know, get through those plays and stuff like that. What do you think it is to be a live player? I mean, a lot. I was, I feel like it was one of my biggest accomplishments in my life up to now. Obviously, I think it'd go one day to be a captain here, but I feel like, you know, being an iron buck, I have it a big, big off season or getting bigger and stronger. I think you just meant a lot because our teammates vote on it too.

2:28:02And so just knowing that like every day when we do those one-on-one competitions and leading guys, people are noticing that I was given everything I had. So it, it'd been a lot to have coach make and all been choose made a, getting an iron buck. When the class of this off season did you start, you kind of visualize some goals that you had, was that one of them? Yeah, I mean, I think right, right off the bat, right when the last season ended, you know, my goal was to be a starter and iron buck guy and just taking steps every day. We read a book, chop with care water, and it's a lot about living in the present. And so I think that's how, helped all of us at time is like, what can we do today? We are very best. And so I think that's, that's what's helped me a lot. I mean, I still don't want what we really do. So I'm not playing tankers. Are you just being, you know, the last question you did that, I mean, you ever made me work? Were you getting rewervers? You don't have just being used, that you're working at the anyone? Yeah, I mean, my parents have instilled a, you know, strong work ethic at me and, you know, not backing down for many situations and stuff like that. And so I think just going in, you know, leading and giving everything I got every day is just, you know,

2:29:06how happened to us. Great. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. I'm all excited to go out there and give you a kiss. Okay, well, anyway, the fact that the way that this defense has additions on every level, you know, talk about chasing the people to the line and the traffic there, you guys have believed the second level and the third level, who they go on with Sean and most of them. How much pressure is on the state defense to perform to the higher level of respect and should last on me? Right, I would say that last year was, you know, we excelled in certain things, but we were also trying to get back to where we were in the past. So we got some great additions and we're excited for that. Ultimately, it's to use some of these guys to be the number one defense in the league. And that's always going to be the goal. So whatever we can do to utilize all the different talent that we have on this team to be the best and play as a team.

2:30:06And to build the best chemistry that we got, that's what we're going to do. What stands out about this offense? Just early, just early in the game. What stands out about these guys? Yeah, we're not used to going against the normal offense I have been the past three years. So it's been a lot more moving pieces. Definitely have to use your eyes pretty well because if not, then somebody's going to be open. But I like what they're doing. I'm very excited for it. I just know it's making our defense a little bit better because we're having to do different things, not just the normal offense we've been used to. I was going to say just because every other team has some variations that they were going to notice. Does that kind of, do you think that kind of benefit you? Because you've seen that more than the rest of the week. I would say so. I mean, as the league has changed over time, I think they revert to certain offenses that do well in certain systems. I would say we're taking maybe a little bit pieces from other offense that we see to do well.

2:31:09So I like what we're doing. I don't know as much as some of these quarterbacks that we have on the team, some of the offensive players, but I just know it's tough to go against. Hello, Seth. Remember last year, what's still one of the top two scoring defense? What do you guys really need to do to finish getting the after the quarterback? Yeah, I would just say place heavy emphasis in practice. It's always going to start in practice with getting after the quarterback, not touching him in practice, but making some good moves. And I would just say rush more. I mean, there's so much that goes into it. It goes with the coverage. Everybody works together. I would say that we had great numbers, but we are trying to get that number up. But the ultimate goal is always going to be the ball. Taking it away, getting off the field. We're putting our offense out there on the field, and we're staying off. That means that we're doing a good job. And you're already asked about it from my competition standpoint. But from my collective standpoint, having you wins a margant, we're going to go to the field.

2:32:09What kind of a cheerio can do for a defense? In the sky's limit with this group, I do believe we have one of the most talented linebacker core groups in the league. So just excited what we're going to be able to do out there on the field. I think we all compliment each other super well. Bigger guys that are explosive. So I'm excited for it. It's really just our family versus their family. And we just got a personal beer and we got to win the games and get back to the net. The first line was saying that Carmellan ran in the really good leaders. For sure. How have they both been leaders for you and the young seniors? They've been leaders just in multiple ways. Whether our column, we're in the film room together on the jugs. I'm asking them about this route, how I could run it better. I'm asking them how I run this route on this plate. Just many different things. I feel like those guys, they're like big brothers and all that that has helped me. A valuable is that to have guys that are playing like football. And also been a college for a while.

2:33:09So I mean, you could ask them for various things about college life. How valuable. It's real valuable for sure because they're first round pit guys. So I feel like just being in a room with those guys. And if you're able to thrive with those guys, you know, some's going good for you. What have you kind of known about him and what have you been doing? I had always had a good relationship with Tavian. He recruited me hard to come here. So I feel like we always talked and he came here and he's been doing this thing. They've all been doing their thing and Julian saying he's another Cali Kisle. I had a little relationship with him too. Good to see Julian, Lincoln, and Tavian all doing real good. What is that next step for you to play in terms of evolution? What do you want to get better at? It's pretty much just right. I just really just everything. I feel like you can never be too perfect. And I feel like you just got to keep doing your job. So I said maybe just just showing up more and just doing my job to the tee.

2:34:09Going against these corners of these TVs. How does that kind of make you better? I used to play in high school. In high school, I had a five star corner DJ DJ on Lee. He's at Alabama. So I always had good work with corners. So I feel like it's just a lot. I'm going against a lot of good guys now. Instead of just being one on one that practice with DJ. So it's real good for sure. Does it take more turns to play with slot? Say it again, please. Does it take more courage to play with slot? What do you mean by that? Because there's more stuff that I think is bigger. Inside you have to have a thing. You've got to be aware of it. But it doesn't take more courage to do that. I guess you can say that. I feel like I just always play slot. And I feel like that's what I've been better at. So I feel like I feel like it's just what I have to do to be on the spot. No matter who's in front of me, how big he is, how strong he is. I feel like if I got an assignment, I got to do it. I'm looking around. I remember my first day. I'm looking around.

2:35:10I'm looking at July. Crazy. And then I see Jeremiah crazy. I'm just looking around everybody. KJ came cranking off the bar. I'm okay. Like this is the real deal. Sure. How do you take that only fat moment and then drove from it? I really just take that and I just, I just think of the challenge. Okay. I'm not the right thing. Things from different point of view. So it's been great.

2:36:10How's the transition going for you? I was going to be amazing. I feel every day get better and better. Going to get the best every day. So you have to be on your A.K. And going to get the news like CJ, that's my cool way. Just getting better and better and transition. Just not an hour, half away from home. So this has been pretty good. You started for games last period. And so those, what are you kind of taking care of? No number of games. What do you think you learned? I think like for my role, I think I did just enough. Like as a person I am now, if I was a person, I feel like I would have done way better. But just going into that role, helping that's helping Minnesota, do what we got to do. And I feel like I did just enough. But there's always, I could always do, there's always been a pretty good. Where did you see the real deal? Let's specifically do a few more. Pass, pro and my first steps. Working on those things. I had the lift, I had the power.

2:37:10I just, I was all over the place. And just every, I feel like every game I was understanding on how the game worked. And how to attack, how to be passive, how to work together as an online unit. Not just be by myself. You mentioned the first step. What, what about that first step? Um, really just, uh, making sure I feel powerful out of my sense. That was the one big thing I had to work on. And especially at my last school working on my stands for making sure I can push off and like, gain ground. And I felt like sometimes I wasn't doing that. Even I mentioned that he had to lose 30 pounds and he got here. Did you have to chance from your body at all? Definitely. I was three, 20 coming in and I've known, I played at three, 20, I feel great. And then they told me they wanted me to go down to three, 15. And I was like, nah, I want to do that. I got three, 15. I started running. I started, they started putting me on the meal plan. They started doing all this. I'm like, oh, no, I see the vision. I was like, yeah, um, I definitely chose for my body.

2:38:10My arm is definitely getting bigger. Uh, weight room. It's going to amazing. I'm growing every day. It's hard every day. But I love it though. Like, I'm getting work after practice. After the weight room. I'm like, cooked, but I can see the results and seen the games. So what is it like? You leave a place. You know, you're probably breaking some people's hearts back there. It's not that the describe what it's like to make a move like this. You know what I mean? And basically the midst of a college career. What were you seeking more than anything else? It was definitely a big move. What was I seeking just, um, just a development with knowing I can, I wanted to go and get some of the best dudes every day and coming here, I'll be able to do that. Just a training program in the culture here. And it's summer. Minnesota. So it was definitely like a easy merge. You had said you were lucky. We hadn't really thought about a high state being an option. When the hotel house is quickly to sort of emerge.

2:39:12What do you remember about just some of the people that you. Um, I remember coach Fry call me when I hit the portal. Um, he was one of the couple of first people to hit me up. I was going to, I was going to go home anyways. Because I was going to go to my mom house because I fasted. Um, when I hit the portal, make sure I made the right decision. And I was going to go home with my family and just talk about it. And my cousin and I never like, um, you're already an hour and a half away. So you might as well just see what's up up there. They want to show an interest. And I was like, you know, I was a transition from fry to Tyler Bowen. Just what's it been like playing for both of them so far? Um, I don't really know too much about coach Fry. You know, just a little bit, but what I was in here, I definitely saw like, dudes that we developed like I can see it on tape. Not necessarily like really see that practice, but with coach Bowen. Um, every day, just improving and he's just always telling me things. Uh, little things. I don't even notice that I need to work on, especially with coach Johnson and coach Dickey.

2:40:12Uh, having no story in the room is probably the best thing ever. We've got some great additions and we're excited for that. Ultimately, it's to use some of these guys to be the number one defense in the league. And that's always going to be the goal. So whatever we can do to utilize all the different talent that we have on this team to be the best and play as a team and to build the best chemistry that we got. That's what we're going to do. What's the end of about this offense? Just early, just early in the game. What's the end of that? Yeah, we're not used to going against the normal offense I have been the past three years. So it's been a lot more moving, moving pieces. Definitely have to use your eyes pretty well because if not, then somebody's going to be open. But I like what they're doing. I'm very excited for it. I just know it's making our defense a little bit better because we're having to do different things. Not just the normal offense we've been used to. I was going to say just because every other team has some variations that they were going to see.

2:41:14Does that kind of, do you think that kind of benefit you? Because you've seen that more than the rest of it. I would say so. I mean, as the league has changed over time, I think they revert to certain offenses that do well in certain systems. And I would say we're taking maybe a little bit pieces from other offense that we see to do well. So I like what we're doing. I mean, I don't know as much as some of these quarterbacks that we have on the team. Some of the offensive players, but I just know it's tough to go against. Hello, second number last year, but still one of the top teams scored in the defense. What do you guys really need to do to finish after the quarterback? Yeah, I would just say place heavy emphasis in practice. It's always going to start in practice with getting after the quarterback, not touching him in practice, but making some good moves. And I would just say rush more. I mean, there's so much that goes into it. It goes with the coverage. Everybody works together. I would say that we had great numbers, but we are trying to get that number up.

2:42:20But the ultimate goal is always going to be the ball. Getting the ball taken away, getting off the field. We're putting our offense out there on the field and we're staying off. That means that we're doing a good job. And you've already asked about it from a competition standpoint. But from a collector standpoint, having new wins tomorrow, we're going to be able to feel what kind of a cheerio can do for a defense. In the sky's limit with this group, I do believe we have one of the most talented linebacker core groups in the league. So just excited what we're going to be able to do out there on the field. I think we all compliment each other super well. Bigger guys that are explosive. So I'm excited for it. The third part is what was going to be up in the air. So I think for me, just starting out, I took it something that was kind of important to me. That whoever was, everyone competing for that spot, I wanted to create a bond with them. Because I feel like a tackle guard bond is important in terms of communication understanding. Because again, a left tackle is only as good as a guard is and vice versa.

2:43:21You know what I mean? So I feel like I've done a good enough job so far of starting to develop that relationship. With each potential guy. So that way as we, as spot, as a spot is getting, you know, as people started to compete for that spot. Again, I feel like I should be able to pop in with whoever. And we should continue to keep the standard of the standard. If that makes sense, that's my mindset. First, there's a guy competing for a spot. And I've never spent any time with him. Just one on one during the summer and just taking reps before camp. Hey, what's coming to facility? Let's do XYZ. Let's talk about this tape XYZ. Then they come in and then now there's no kind of flow. So now I'm not really seeing how that, how we're going to fit together. But I want to fit with as many people at a left guard as possible that way when the decision's been made. There's no new startup process. I got to start over my process with this guy. It's kind of already been flown. That makes sense. That's what tackle is a position that draws a lot of focus.

2:44:22Arguably this is more pressure than a position on the line. In your opinion, what is the problem mindset to succeed at that position? I think that the mindset for me, as always, has been that when I win my one-on-one, the ball goes down the field. You know what I mean? So, and I think that's what I'm most excited about just being a left tackle is that, especially with the protections that are a little bit, a longer plays where the left tackle tends to be a one-on-one or the plays I tend to love the most because kind of halfway through the play, you're locking them up and just know that he can't go anywhere. You start to smile a little bit, you're like, oh, dude, ball's gone. You know what I mean? Like, ball's gone and it's going to be a touch that's going to be a huge gain. So I think for me, that's kind of the mindset you have to have at the left tackle spot is that, as soon as I win, like, my rep, we're going down the field. So that's just a mindset I have in terms of how well I have to prepare.

2:45:25How do you go on the mindset and where the people able to get there? Honestly, I'll say that mindset kind of came from college. Again, obviously I played with a lot of great guys in college. You know, I'm glad we have all of those guys here. You know what I mean? To throw the ball to as well, just because against one of those things, like with CJ, you just, again, a left tackle, my mindset was just, well, as CJ just do his thing. And that's my thing. I want Kyle already to be able to do his thing. Don't worry about whoever's over here, just do your thing. That's why you're here and just throw it to Marvin. And, you know, it will be good. You know what I mean? So that's something excited about. And I think all that starts because of what we do on the line. So I think just not just myself, but the entire room takes pride in. Hey, like when we do our job upfront, that's where everything else goes. So let these guys we have with the ball in their hands do all that magic. We just got to do our job, just contain it when you're one on one, you know. You know, just playing that, that's fine.

2:46:26It means something special just because of the history of that position. And, you know, just of all the greats that have played left tackle. I mean, do you ever think about just the past and the, you know, the, the players before you who were in that spot and did great things? Yeah, I mean, again, I feel like just from, just as a young guy in a game, I of course try to, I like to watch the, the greats the game. I like to watch guys like a weight worth, of course, you know, a really Anderson, you know, he played on the right side, but again, I think continuing to watch the greats that play the game. Just contain to dominate for those guys from me, be able to talk to them again, to be able to learn from their story and their journey and how they developed. Of course, I understand I want to create a, I want my game to be able to be like theirs in a way to where it's talked about in a way of like, that's a guy you need to watch, just to watch with, you know, the fight that you played with, the finish that you played with, and the technique you played with, because those guys played almost 20 years.

2:47:28You know what I mean? So, and again, I think that's something when you watch the guys, the legendary guys come before, yeah, you know, they're strong and they're tough guys, but, you know, I don't know, but when you're like 36, 37 years old, you probably not that strong. Not as strong as you used to, but that technique and just the skill set, that's something that I admire. You mentioned earlier about the guys going out to UCLA and kind of getting out of the heat. I'm curious, when you're working out here, do you do anything outside or do you avoid it altogether right now? I don't know, I'm always outside. I'm always outside. I don't mind the heat. I love the heat. Honestly, for me, it helps. I'm off like 320, so I kind of warm up quickly. So it's kind of nice. My warm up. I don't have to be doing like 30 minute warm up. You know, you kind of just be outside long enough, collect this. And your joints are on go. So I actually, I like it. Going back to the players that have been in the league for a while, Calvin Beachham is one of those guys that's been the league for a decade plus. What have you been able to learn from him?

2:48:34I think, again, just learning how to be a pro in terms of certain things, like for example, I'm a guy that when I like to train by myself, I just take a thousand reps of a set, a thousand reps of a reach block. I'm a rep, rep, rep, rep. And Tyfig, I've done a hundred times and I wrote perfect. And some of that beach is like talking about in terms of being a pro. I thought to me, that's me being a pro. As a young guy, I pick up a lot of reps in my body. So I'm going to take a lot of reps and preparation. But beach is a guy where it's like, it's not about necessarily the quantity in terms of it's really through the quality. But even more so, he's like, you know, off season, you don't got to be doing something like this every single day. But when you do it like from your first rep, even your first rep is not like here. I'm taking this rep. Oh, it wasn't good. It's going to be better in the second one, like each rep, even when you're by yourself is just kind of, I guess a mindset, I just give yourself 15 reps instead of doing 60 reps. And I sounds like a huge difference, but then you out of mind taking 60 reps from by myself. And there's nobody that's waiting around on me. And I'm by myself.

2:49:39I can take my time and I'll do that, but just being like, I'm going to do 15 perfect reps. And I'm just going to slow down and take all my time. Stuff like that. That way your body, that way you're not, you're not, you're not doing too much before camp, you know. Many of the guys that left guard in the mix were here last year, except for Evan. How does that relationship develop throughout their overseas? Yeah, I mean, so honestly, I like that. That's my guy. We like to compete. We've been competing in the weight room since day one in terms of just like what we consider like athletic competitions. So like even in the weight room, I'm at the very end of the week when we're done lifting. I'll talk to Evan, I bet now you're standing. We'll just do some sort of competition, whether it's grip or whether it's jump or where it's pull ups or something. I don't let him wave until I beat him in these two things. So if we do, if we do a jump thing and like I always thought was the best kind of the most height when I jumped out of a line, I could dominate anybody and that, but he beat me in that surprising size.

2:50:44I know what happened on the bike. And then we did this bike thing. I beat him on a bike. Now we don't pull up. So beat him on a personal kid. Now we can leave. But we just have that that in words is always just competing. And then again, obviously, you know, he wasn't on the team with us last year. I think what he brings to the table with being of that is that he's like a plug and play guy. You know, he knows he's been in those scenarios before. He's played with guys like Penae when he was with Detroit. So obviously, he's being able to talk to him and how this is how it was when I was setting with Penae. This is how it was. I was saying to see all these are the different things that I can do that made some things like in your game, how you set. And I'll talk to him about what I like to do in certain scenarios and how his set can sort of match that. That makes sense. So I think he adds a lot. So long as you've stayed after until you beat him. To the point where strength coaches like you guys got to go. You guys should go. You know, we're not trying to break any rules around here.

2:51:52But you know, but it's just me and him just going and he loves it. You know, so and even us starting to do that we started to get other guys in the O line that tried to hop in on our competition for fun. But only matters would be Evan. It's just I'm just beating you. You know, so it's fun. I couldn't pass up an opportunity to try and bump that up and go somewhere to see. I did. I was really just watching it because I mean we played the very last one this past year on that.

2:53:01But yeah, I mean the things that coach day does in the offense. I feel like really fit my my type. Where I was coming from the case day was very heavy offense, especially going back to him. Which I was very happy to do and I'm excited here to where I feel like it's more of a you know, where I can be that pocket batter and also use my legs when I need to. But you know, I feel like my strength. But I also feel like I can do really good things. Obviously being a quarterback you need to make those plays. Oh, it had a huge huge impact on you know, I love my guys at K state.

2:54:01I have nothing bad to say about that. But I mean the talent here is just being around the guys. And the thing that's impressed me the most about especially the receiver room is how driven how much they want to work. I don't have to go out there and beg these guys to go catch and they're already out here catching on the jugs when I come out the truck. They're incredibly hard working just all across the room. We got views like car now and Brandon and obviously a mecca and all those guys like I mean that's just the that's just the expert. There's so much talent in that room being able to throw the guys like that makes my job a lot easier. Dude, he's a dude man. I haven't gotten to talk to him that much yet. You know just because we've been in different groups lifting and stuff. But man, he's a specimen. I mean that dude is a freak show. He comes to physical. I mean he is. I'm excited to see him on the field.

2:55:03I feel like the resounding thing that I heard from these NFL guys and from people around the league was need to play more. We need to see more high level play. I played a lot of football in my time at the A-Cade. I only had one year where I was really the true starter and where I played the whole year. The most part I was a backup filling in. I felt like there's a bunch of statistics and things that they look at. I was on the very lowest end of the amount of yards that you're supposed to throw for. You look at the success stories versus the failure stories. There was so many signs of the point in becoming bad. And really in my heart, and that was at the end of the day. It was up to me. It was my gut.

2:56:04I felt like I just wasn't ready to leave college yet. I was a little more. I want to go to the competition. I was really happy to be able to have a big, high level play. Absolutely. And I mean, the biggest thing was I felt like I could come compete here in the United States. That above anything else was one of the most important things. I felt like I just had more. I wanted to accomplish my college and I wasn't going yet. And that was what really drew me here. Obviously, getting to the next level and playing in an offense like this, I think is really going to prepare me for that next level and give me the best shot. And that's all I just really took her on the cake for me. Yeah, I mean, we definitely talked about it.

2:57:06We're all here to compete and we're all here to help the fuck out of me. That's all we're here for. And that was made evident when I came on my visit. And the thing that I'm the most fired up about is how good the dudes in the Dreamark and how good they've been to me. They could have believed me. I've been in a situation where we brought in an older trans again. They could have been mad and not taught me and not helped me out. But Dev and Lincoln, the guys that have been around, they've really helped us a lot, especially us three new guys. And I know I'm older and I've done things, but still just learning a new system, learning how we do things and how we go about our business. Everything's a little different. So I'm so thankful for those guys. They've helped me so much, just getting accustomed to being in this building. What do you get to offer them here?

2:58:07Really good dudes, really good kids, and really talented too. They can both spin the ball really well. They're young and they know they got a lot to learn and so do I. I think we're all trying to learn this together, even approach over to Ryan a little bit. We're hitting the ground running, but it's exciting. Those two guys are especially in the field. What do you want to do with the draft? Do you have the right kids? It's hard to say. I would probably say the draft would have been mine. I was talking to some other schools, Miami and USC were in there in the mix. But it was really, I would say, here in the draft at the end of it. There was a lot of different things at Miami doing it. It was a long, hard process, but yeah, I would say. I mean, that was probably the most like it.

2:59:08When you first thought you talked to about the weight of the draft in the past, I mean, how did the competition fall in the mid-term? I mean, nothing crazy. You know, it was just... Oh, thank you. Appreciate it. I'm a fighter fan. Who really? I appreciate it. There you go, a little sidetrack. What was the question again? I'm sorry. It's fighter controversy. How did the competition fall? Yeah, no, it was... I mean, it wasn't really anything crazy, I would say. You know, nothing really changed. It was really kind of... They were kind of holding me off a little bit, so after that game, just in fairness. I was agitation and weight of my time, and you know, it all worked out.

3:00:11Did Coach Day live on now? You just kind of make the pledge? It's hard to tell. I don't really know. It was a whirlwind of a process. You know, I started hearing initially they might be interested, but I hadn't really heard anything directly, and then, you know, really getting in... Like, I really started to feel that interest. Did Coach Day let you know that there's a change coming? Good coordinator. You know what I'm saying? A little bit. I kind of figured that. I didn't know for sure, but he kind of hinted at it. And, you know, his point was, you know, it's in the best interest to him and the team. I was all in. I completely understood, you know, the decision and why he did it. You're talking about what this defense took out about years being considering other subsidiaries' problems. Yeah, I mean, there were a lot of things that were said.

3:01:11You know, a lot of things that were attractive to me about this offense, and about what he kind of thought about my name, and how he thought he could elevate me to where I wanted to be. And, you know, I feel like one of the biggest things was how Coach Day will be offensive. And, you know, a lot of these other schools that I was looking at, you know, maybe these air raid type schools. You know, they got great offenses. You know, I could put up a lot of numbers, but I don't know how much that was developed to be out of. And, you know, playing in a system that Coach O'Brien, I'm using the big picture of that, how much? How much better can you prepare for the NFL than with somebody who's coached at a head coach level and an important head level at the NFL? You know, there's just all the things pointed to it. You know, when it comes to safe harbor streamer, and I know this truck is a huge area, and it's not a much further danger at all. I kind of wanted to protect the nature of this,

3:02:14but it's just a major area. Obviously, it's the first season in the coming months. How do you say ready and prepare to get out, getting carried off from the field? How do you say ready and prepare for the summer? How do you say ready and prepare to get out of the field? How do you say ready and prepare to get out of the field? How do you say ready and prepare to get out of the field? I know I took a couple of days off after the National Championship, and then shoot right after that. I'm writing sample Florida, and I'm writing to it. And so, yeah, I think while I trained, I trained that your morph performance. I think it's called the House of Athlete or the Compound now. They did a good job, man. They're just bringing us in, and the way they went about training us, man, they did a really good job. I mean, that would be cool, you knew it? The bucking nears. No, I haven't. We think it's a city champion. Tampa, Tampa, nice. It's a nice city, man. Really nice. The 40, the broad and the vert.

3:03:15You've been on the races in Austin, Walker. Do you speak to your mentality of when you've got a linebacker, so you're the champ, and you're the new, and you're getting ready to score a ball. Yeah. Yeah, nah, man. It's really all about technique, and then it's all about mindset as well. And so, I say, you know, it's for the love of my brother. It's for the love of Wil Howard. It's for the love of the receivers who I got on the perimeter. Just making sure, you know, first of all, my quarterback doesn't get sacked. And I told Wil, I think it was before the first game. I was like, I got your brother. It's, I said, man, I'm not going to let you get hit, you know. And so, I don't know if I gave up a sack. I'm not sure that, but I know if I did, I haven't given up too many. And so, man, it's for the love of my brother's, though, man, making sure the ball get in their hands, you know, the guys on the outside and making sure they get fed. You had to hit the practice field later today. What is something you've been working on right now? In my game. You can't really work on this, you know, in all season, I feel like.

3:04:16It's more so, you know, you got to put the pads on. You got to go through some inside run, you know, maybe. It's really just continuing to run through tackles. And so, that's, I feel like that's one of the areas in my game. You know, I want to continue to get better, right? I feel like I did a good job of that in my senior year. And so, I just want to continue to build on that. So, you know what I say? Yes, I did. Yes, I did. So, people say you don't look like now. How long do you want to go out there and get back in nursing? Have you met with New Orleans? I did meet with New Orleans as well. I never got that comparison. Actually, I know I have a Camera shoe. Yeah, man, I have a Camera. Great, great back, man. Just what he does and those 101 matchups, he's dangerous, man. And he's so smooth. He's so smooth as well. I'm not going to lie. He's smooth. So, the picture paper box is made with the two features. Yeah. Yeah. Inside zone from stack, being able to hit that thing downhill. And I'll say the next one is probably just an option out of the backfield.

3:05:16You know, a man and man coverage. You're getting on that line backer. And so. What do you want? What do you want? What do you want? He needs to be here a couple of years. Jeremiah. You'll have the picture of the first little bit of the sound of this. How much is it that you want? And that pressure is so much attention. Like I said. Yeah, I say to man, the biggest thing is the way that he carries himself, man. And the way that, man, he approaches the game. He comes in with the mindset, you know, he's going to work every single week. You know, every practice, you know, he's working hard. You know, even shooting. I don't know. Every game. I think he had a, every game was a good game for him, man. And so, but still, man, he always has the mentality to mindset that, you know, he's going to come in each and every day. He's going to continue to work and get better, man. And so he's definitely, man, he's going to be a special player, man. He really is. I don't know. You look like a guy in your last game. Yeah, coming from a monster kid. You know, he's got some injuries. I think his master's injury. When he looked back on it, what do you want to stand down? Man, a lot of ups and downs, man. It's just how you respond to adversity.

3:06:16And I feel like that's something that God has definitely helped me to do better. It's just, I'm not having something to lean on now. You know, I remember before I met him, you know, going through those adversity, I had nothing to run to. You know, you can run to people, but they still can't. It's not too much. They can't truly help you. You know, I feel like, you know, I feel like the only person that can truly help you is your relationship with Jesus Christ. And so, being able to lean on him, you know, he gives you, in those moments, where it's tough, you know, where it's slow. And when you're behind the scenes and you're going through things that people don't know about, he gives you that peace and comfort. You know, even in those moments, man, we're so hard that you can't explain. It's like, man, I'm going through this, but like, how am I still filled with this internal joy? You know, how do I have so much peace in this situation? And so, that's something that only Jesus Christ can give you. And so... The back of the firm, Peterson Power and Judgment, is beyond that. Which aspect did you do those other individuals who run to the Bible and from being around power and health?

3:07:17Um... Man, those guys have such a great mentality, man. I just really love their mentality, especially Q as well. You know, I talked about Will Howard, his leadership, but Quincham mentality, man. That boy just, yeah, that boy just gifted. You see, you know, sometimes he put in a situation where he looked like he should have a negative five yards. And as soon as you know it, he, that running through somebody, still farming somebody, and shoot, it's a game of 10. And so... You some of the things that he does, he just realizes two different guys. Um... Shoot, I think... Yeah, man, I think it's just like, he's just gifted, man, to be honest. He's just gifted. You know, he's a big back, you know, he's strong, and so, um... You know, he's able to do those things, and so... Yeah, man, it's definitely... You know, I look at his game, and I want to, you know, at the same time, I want to learn from Quincham. You know, I want to look at his game, and it's like, man, where can I get better at as well? You know, that's the type of player I am. I'm always looking to get better, man. I'm always looking to grow as a player.

3:08:17What's your last one to be in San Francisco? Julian San. Oh, yeah, he's going to be a great, but... He's going to be a great quarterback, man. He's so accurate. And so, um, he's definitely, man, I know Coach Dez is definitely going to get him right. Just, you know, um, container grow as a leader, container grow as a player. And so, he's going to be really good for high state. Thanks, boss. Good luck. I'm going to start. Uh... He's... I know just the quarterback position. Um, I feel like, you know, the quarterbacks in the past, they've definitely been vocal. And so, I feel like that's something that they're definitely going to ask Julian San as well. It's to be that vocal leader, and lead the offense, and lead the team. Thanks, guys. Thanks, guys. Thank you. Thank you. Shoot, man. He has a bill like JK Dobbins. And, um, I kind of see them, you know, similar, similarities in their game as well. And I know JK Dobbins, he was a great running back. I feel like he's not talked about his none. Um, a lot, but man, his career here, you watch his highlights is great. I remember, um, before I recruit, before I committed here, I remember watching JK Dobbins highlights, like every, every, um, one of his years here,

3:09:21like four or five times. And so, man, he was such a great back. And, um, I feel like, you know, when I see JK Dobbins, when I see, um, James people, I see similarities to both of their games, I feel like they play the same. And so, I appreciate you all. Yeah, I'll be going. This. This.

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3:11:35You. So being able to go out there and just present my best self here, man, it makes me better person. I have talked to the chiefs. Yes. Oh, it was a great conversation. So, I mean, these guys, I mean, they have a lot of good, DeLine talent there. So, having guys there, I mean, they feel like I could fit in very well. I mean, do you have guys that pull me in and really help me out and allow me to really get in their fist system and fit in there and be a good player there. You talked to Dr. Bonsi with a watch came hay with a watch that I'm going to show. Oh, yeah. Of course, Jones, I mean that. That guy's amazing. Be able to explore the way he did in the past few years, man. He's great. I mean, that guy is practically unblockable. So, we're watching him a little bit. I mean, the way he uses his hands, I mean, he doesn't allow people to touch him. Yeah. So, I always hear a favorite game or a memory and element of his past season. Definitely win the national championship. I mean, there's no better feeling than that to be able to go out there. I mean, when a whole bunch of guys you grew up with for the past five years, I mean, see us really pull through. I mean, see us really pull through out there, hitting a couple of bumps in the road and do it.

3:12:35I really exert ourselves and really make it all the way to the national championship. One at all, man. It's a great feeling. You see like a sunken, you know, like, what's it feeling? Oh, yeah. Since being off the team now, definitely sunken now that we really won the national championships. It's going to sink anymore. We'll be able to see the rings that we got. We can get here and probably in the next month. So, yeah. It's all like a... What's it like seeing Jay-Zeen and draft it so close that they have it and see them here? They're waiting and they're going to sign like this. I mean, it's nice. I mean, especially, they mean to have the entire defense line here at the combat. I mean, it's amazing. It's not too many times you get not too many teams in the view to have that. It just shows the elite level that we have and that they have been at Ohio State. It just shows how great we are and how great we can be. It felt like a whirlwind going from the play to championship game amongst the guys and now you're here. Oh, yeah. I mean, it feels like I'm still playing for Ohio State, but it's like I'm not playing anymore. So, it's kind of weird. Trying to get to Justin Point that I'm stepping into a new chapter of my life. Just being relaxed, calm, and being just walking there and being myself. Are you planning to work out tomorrow?

3:13:37Oh, yeah. I'll be doing the drills. What's about it? How much time have you had? How much time have you taken off for yourself? We had a week. I mean, a week after the game and then after that, I'm fluent straight to California when I had to train her. You mentioned it. You know, it feels like you're still playing for Ohio State. When you've been there for five years, like how hard is it to like pull away from that and not be part of it? Yeah, it was definitely hard the first couple of weeks. I mean, trying to, it was definitely a slower pace. I mean, being in a Ohio State, everything was up temple, up beat, everything was hard work. I mean, you're doing group activities all the time. It's hard to be able to adjust to be more of a calm setting. I mean, you're doing a lot of things on your own when you get in a NFL. It's not you're not guided anywhere. So, you got to be able to adjust to that. And that's probably the biggest thing. How old do you feel like that here? You feel a nice level. I'm 10th over. I like to say that Ohio State is the best of preparing. I mean, you can see a player after a player going to the NFL, I mean, it just means one of the best players because it's the way Ohio State and the system that they had. I mean, they did things in an excellent way to prepare you for the league. And this is why I'm grateful to be able to go to that school.

3:14:37I think that's not going to lie down next time. I don't feel it. I don't feel it. Those defense lines are talking about next year. It's going to be a bit of a part of the year. Yeah, it's kind of sad. Obviously, I wish we could have even just one of them be with me and make it even a better experience being there. I mean, a lot of questions they like to ask is like, who would you bring with you? I mean, of course, is here any one of my deal I'm in, bringing those guys with me. So it's definitely going to be different. But I mean, there's a lot of great talent on these teams, a lot of great deal I'm in there. So I love to learn from other people, learn from them and be able to grow from them. Do you and Jack tell, uh, Sorrento and Sonny, they have to carry a picker in the two-door time? Oh, yeah, of course. I mean, I like to sell the time, man. And the Columbus being brings to Ohio State, man, it's the best player. So being there and being still representing picker and tinning, I mean, we got a lot of good guys still in picker and tinning, still in high school. We get to get there. So them representing this, it's great. What do you was talking about, uh, the Sonny being a potential block of men's and being a potential captain for the team? Where have you seen Sonny kind of grow as a leader and what do you think about the new role that you're getting as a leader?

3:15:40Oh, yeah. I think that just the leadership off the field made it so much better. I mean, from a guy who started off as a safety, moving the linebacker, I mean, it was a, it was a natural adjustment for him. You mean, he made no complaints to none of that. I mean, he just came in and worked and kind of like me, like, we just worked as hard as he could every single day. Just learned to play book and you can see the leadership on the field. We's out there calling the plays with confidence and being out there supporting his team, man. His team rallied behind him. You see him very much at home. It's interesting. I mean, I have no comments on it. I want nothing but the best for him, but being at the current state. So I mean, it's not for the best for him. Who do you see emerging as a leader on that team? That's the linebacker. I think I see you in a bit. I mean, I'm just, um, Keal Jackson. I feel like, uh, uh, this role, man, I've talked to him. He definitely wants to step up. You stepping up this year. I mean, he's played a good amount of time last year. I feel like him being able to go out there and really step up and be a leader for the team. That's something you can do, especially with the talent that you ask. What are you up to, Cheryl? What do you want to show him? What do you want to show him? Um, I mean, you, what you got pads on, stuff like that, being a, especially an interior guy.

3:16:40You really don't get to see me run. So being able to go out there and really run, see my movement, see my men and my ability to move around. I mean, definitely surprised a couple coaches. Who is the most pivotal moment that the season for you guys? Um, uh, as hard as it is to say being a loser to him, North, I mean, that was kind of like the pivotal role that really, um, hit the whole team in the face and allowed us to really kick the fire in the neith and some people to, uh, play with our best abilities that we knew we had since the beginning of the season. I mean, as much as it hurts to lose, I mean, it kind of set the tone for the rest of the team and you see how we dominated teams in the playoffs. So people have talked about that. Did you opinion of Friday change or how did it change after that meeting knowing that he's the coach sitting there taking the, that's good, the broad, uh, feedback. Uh, yeah, I mean, I didn't change at all. That's all it should be. I mean, being a coach there, I mean, he, he's up front and he's going to tell you everything. He's going to, he takes criticism and that's just something that, uh, being a man to be the drop of ego and take criticism. I mean, that makes him even a better coach. I mean, not a lot of coaches can do that. So it makes him even better that he's here for his team.

3:17:41He's not just trying to be the head coach. He wants to be for his team. So I appreciate him for that. How do you want to have your team to come up with a better team? How much does that snow bomb you? Is that a lot of food from one of them? Well, of course, I mean, yeah, I mean, the whole goal going to a house that you want to be the team of North. I mean, especially with my brother, he's never lost to him. So it's kind of like a pride and rights at the dinner table. But I mean, every day you want a national championship. So I'm not getting to carry on for rest of my life. You mentioned being able to surprise and be able to feel like you're a little bit overlooked just because of how much talent you had around you on a state. We had a lot of good guys. I mean, that's what comes to being on a holiday. I mean, you got talent everywhere. So I mean, just being able to just be myself and just be able to show people who I am is what I'm here for. So I'm just going to do everything impossible to be able to prove to the people that support me, right? Where do you see yourself? Are you going to stick it? Just stick it. No, it's going to be what I think. What do you think you put to fit best?

3:18:41I want to be versatile. I want to be like, I can play a little bit of three-take plate nose guard anywhere on the inside. I feel like I'm playing maybe even a little outside. Who knows? So just being able to be versatile. I feel like playing on a holiday state. We were allowed to move around a little bit and allow me to show my talent. So being able to be versatile and play anywhere allows me to be a better player in the league. You mentioned getting out of it. What are people going to see for the next year? They're going to see it more developed player. I feel like this year is kind of the set and stone of him being able to take over the role of being a defense end out of a holiday. So I feel like he has all the talents, all the skillset to be able to go out there and be one of the best deans to come out of a holiday state. So it's up to him to be able to hone in on a leadership and be able to be the best player you can and lead others to be just like him. What do you feel like you're the best match for you? You're going to run for the whole time? I'm obviously just being able to shut down the run. I feel like I pride myself in my run game and not being blocked by a single person. So I'll be able to go in there and be able to be a lead run stopper. But also be able to go on on third down as well and be able to show my past rush. I mean, go out there and do the best I can. So I didn't really get to do what I always say.

3:19:42How much do you feel like you've heard of as a past rusher at Ohio State? Where do you feel like you've used the role of that? Yeah, I mean, I feel like power is always my go to a past rusher. I feel like it worked. I mean, we didn't really get the rusher as much at the Ohio State. But at times I did get the rusher to show. I mean, my skillset allowed me to move guys out the way and make sacks. I mean, it's something good. I mean, I feel like I obviously always need something to work on a past rusher. It's different moves that come off of it. Like, finesse moves, any type of chop and stuff like that. Just to work on those and finishing sacks or something like a work on. What do you think of the biggest lessons you'll take from Larry Johnson with you to being a pal? Honestly, just focus on little things. I mean, technique is critical when it comes to defeating a block or getting blocked. So I mean, just honing on those small techniques to always make sure that I'm critiquing myself in the best way possible and not getting complacent. I don't think we got who the other two of your guys are. We got guys like Andrew Gennery, Jason Moore, Ty Worm alone. I mean, the younger freshmen in there, I feel like everybody can step up. I mean, those are guys that have played a little bit last year.

3:20:43I feel like having every position vacant, I mean, allows for competition. So being able to, for those guys to step up and really prove themselves that they can play at a elite level is going to be something I'm looking forward to see. I want for you to leave that room in a way that they are prepared to start off. It's super important. I mean, I feel like that was our whole goal as leaders to be able to just elevate the younger guys and allow them. So when we leave that, they can carry the torch. That's what we're like to say. So everybody moves up from back seats to the front seats. So I feel like we're giving the possibility to be able to move up to the front seats and be ready for every challenge that's done at them. I think JT said there would be another 15 buck guys here next year. So yeah. You're prediction on a number? I have no idea. I mean, I think there would be a lot of guys. I mean, we like a lot of good talent, a lot of young guys. I mean, who knows? What do you think it would mean for this group of guys that's here to retire, break the record of one school, you didn't draft it enough in a draft? Yeah. It would mean a lot, honestly.

3:21:44I mean, these guys work hard. I mean, being in a hall state, you got a lot of great guys there. I mean, guys we showed and our film shows, man. This is probably one of the more complete teams that we had in college football. So I feel like I was a scout to understand. I mean, coach to understand how good of guys we have. And then not only do we have good on the field, man, great character guys, man. So yeah. How good is that being part of the field? He was great, man. I mean, being able to come from Bama and build a jump on a hall state. I mean, he felt like you played on for him the whole time. I mean, this guy was a great guy. Not only off the field, but on the field as well. He was very technical-sounding, man. He had a great technique. He was hard to get around him in practice. I mean, definitely showed in the game. So he's a great guy. I appreciate him. We've got guys here with the longer season, potentially. Yeah, we play it by here. We see how goals by time we get in the camp. But obviously, he's earning his stripes. You earn your stripes, you know, a lot of jobs to create opportunities for you. You know what I mean?

3:22:44We have to see how it goes with all the other stuff. You know, once we get closer to the season, and we're getting the game plan stuff. But he's doing a great job, and he's taking a great step forward. Tim, what's the way that you've been building the room? The way he kind of established your room now. It seems like it's been, like, son of pieces, contemplations, and kind of building bonds. And I'm curious, is that something that you came in with the, like, a couple years ago, with the intention of feeling it, or is it something that you're like, it's kind of been cultivated over the course of your time as a position coach here at the guys. No, it's been there for a while. I've been doing that for a long time. It's all about relationship. If you develop real relationship, and you're authentic in your communication, and you have honest feedback, and you have direct teaching, the guys that have value and character, and they appreciate that stuff, they're embrace that. So, but they have to know you care, and you have to know that it's real, and they have to know that you're really concerned about there. And you're aware of being as a young man, and when you get close to him, and spend a lot of time with him off the field, you could coach him hard. And you can say truthful things to him, and embrace it,

3:23:44and you can have real conversation, because you know, the only goal is to help him get better as a young man. As you see, a couple years ago, I think those have told us that the perceived room is so far ahead of the border, is it kind of skewed at evaluations on how that dynamic change is to your sense of scoop shot and older, and you can be better even more talented. Yeah, it's done balanced up a little bit now. That goes with great competition. We go against the best receivers in college football. So, that helps escalate your growth process, because if you don't figure it out real fast, you're getting embarrassed. So, that competition, but what happened with that, I guys started competing, I guys started growing, I guys got better, and now it's even up a little bit, so where you get really good work at practice today. You know what I mean? So, as competitive, it's fun. Those guys both on both sides of all care about each other, so it's great competition and they all are real close. So, you know what I mean? It's that stuff that gets us better, that will prepare us for Saturday. I asked Denzel, kind of like that same idea, and he said, well, like, first day of practice, actually, the receivers kind of got them, because I didn't kind of,

3:24:44but they're waiting for me for this, for this, for this, for this, for this, for this. I know, it's just, it's going to competitive, man. They got the best group in the country, that you're going against every day. So, you have to bring it every day, you know what I mean? So, we got a great quarterback room, we got a great receiver room, the running backs are really good. So, when you out there going against them is deep. So, you have to be ready for it. And obviously, man, we're seeing a lot of good stuff with, with, with, with, with, stay in Coach Kelly, doing over there, and so it prepares you a lot, and it helps us grow. So, why don't you go into play kind of an associative for green picture? Is that? It's, it's, it's, you're recruiting, or a, a, a, a, a, Y17. Y21, like what else do you want. Yeah, it, it's Ayren and really definitely joining the homestead party during field games, and we're waiting for Y21. We're waiting for YLT to be there on Thursday. It puts us back to the Sunday luck. We started where Y21 is going to come. Dana, yeah, in the changing space here seems to be, which is why they always keep seeing such a big middleоже at home. Gotcha. So your wife's a little bit more prometenkент. I know. So if you two speak, and then we do,

3:25:44we do, like spit it out. Right about right, is going to happen. We're going to let it in all, is in there Caleb. Miles, we have about four or five guys moving around. Right now we just try things out in spring ball. See what it fit. See what things work together. So there's going to probably be some more guys in there. We move it around and try to just get the right fit throughout the N and C. How it goes by time we get really start the season. He can run any strong. He's fast. Very serious about his business. He's big. He's 200 pounds. He can run. He's strong. He's conscientious. He's starting to grow. And he's starting to get better with it. So we look for big things for him in spring. Keep competing. You know what I mean? Now he's made the transition competing today. You know what I mean? Start going in that transition is all just like how I'm in your main last year. You throw him in the fire. You let him go. You compete. You go by time we get out the end of training camp. You have been him figured out. Yeah, I want that. But now you just throw it all at him. compete. Continue to grow. Continue to learn. He has the skill set. He has to length. Now

3:26:46you just got to put it all together. And it takes time to do that. And hopefully you see that by time we get in the training camp. It seems like it's been a bit of a way to springing kind of click for your main last year and you start to see and perform a little better in practice. Is that like a benchmark for where you want to be by the middle of spring? Does he have to be at a certain point where you want it to start clicking? Yeah, by time you start getting about two weeks from now that last week, you know, because it takes time. There's a lot of stuff going on. But you know, by time you get into that last week of spring ball, you look to start seeing the things that you look for show up. And then you know, you get another evaluation again. We'll get in the training camp. See if this stuff carried on to make sure we go it for starting in September. Tim, what's your assessment of the growth of those made nowadays? Kind of got his feet under one deep. That's already like about him and that. He's very conscious. Anches. He's smart. He can run. He's tough. He's made the adjustment because he's out of Europe on his belt. So now you can see he's not making a lot of mistakes. He competes. He's real conscious. Anches and and he has a physical presence. So the growth has been really good. And we look to continue that throughout spring coach.

3:27:49Thank you very much. Right. I asked one more. All the guys came back like Denzel, the great example. Because that surprised you as you reflect on all these guys that came back late for ransom. They could have turned pro. No, the culture here is real. Coach, they does a great job of building the culture. Our room is close knit. The guys on defense are real close. Those guys want to come back they have an agenda. You know, we want to come back. They want to come back and walk away with something. So it didn't shock me. But it's a good environment for them too. You know what I mean? That's when you see those guys come back. That's a testimony to the culture that's set here. The brotherhood, the environment. And of course, they run the program for those do's to want to come back because we go at it. It's hard. It's not easy. It's not easy. But what we do. So the fact they come back and do that is a testament how he runs the program. Coach, thank you very much. Yeah. What's the conversations like that? Do you make an organization that looks like making that transition? I mean, there's already a little talk about nice and linebacker. Like this the world season

3:28:50even. I was already like kind of like wasn't really learning it. I know it was teaching me, but I was getting to know linebacker a little bit just because I knew I probably wouldn't play linebacker at some point. So then like obviously when downs came here, it's like, all right, so where can I help the defense the most? You know what I'm saying? And we're trying to get our best level on the field. We're going to help the defense the most. So that's what kind of like the conversation was. And I just want to do whatever I can, whatever, wherever the defense need me, wherever I can impact most, that's kind of the conversation. What's been the most difficult thing about making that transition? It's less time and space. So less waste of movement. When you plan to save it, you can kind of a little more waste move with your feet. You can be take longer strides. You know, linebacks will look like everything short, choppy, keep staying power, keep your base. So I mean, that's just something like every line progress to work on honestly. That's kind of been a big thing, but there's a lot of things to work on obviously. Why is it that you and the staff decided that linebackers, what do you mean? I think my capability, what I'm capable of and then like the person that we have, like

3:29:54I said, I'm trying to get the best level on the field, wherever that may be. So you can still try to figure that out. Just like the conversation was about, it may have been hard for you to keep your weight down the stage. Do you look bigger? How much have you changed physically? Are you allowed to just like find a deep now? I mean, last year I was eating regular like, I was like 2 30 to 2 35 the whole year last year. I don't know if people thought I was 2 25, but I was like 2 35 sometimes last year. So it's not really like anything changed. Obviously I'm a gradually getting some more weight. I'm listening heavier weight. It was different training to be a DB than training to be a linebacker. So you couldn't gradually be a little bigger. Are you embracing that different kind of training? Yeah, I love it. I love to be with the linebackers. I think with the DBs, like sometimes in the way, especially in the way where I was expecting to win. So like when I won, I was going to go to the linebacker and I was like, it's more of a conversation. You know what I'm saying? Not like any hits of the DBs. I'm 2 30 going against someone who's 2 or

3:30:595. I'm expecting to win. So I love the competition. Yeah, Cody said you came in and said, well, it's already bigger than most of the linebackers. See, are you playing Will and Sam? I've been working on both, yes. Is there any, like, a couple of different between the two in terms of all the same things? I mean, obviously the Samy more outside the box, outside the linebacker overhang. You walked up on the edge on the tight end. Will's more inside the box. I think the biggest difference from Sam and Will, Samy's got to be more outside sometimes during the slot with two, you know. But I think it's similar concept because you can do the same thing in the boundary. It's almost more like the San Francisco field in the world's the boundary. So I think it's pretty similar, honestly. The only difference is that Sam Lashar, I never really was an interior run fitter like in the A gap, you know, going A to B or whatever that whatever that might be. So that's a little different. But I mean, I think I got some of that experience at safety just from a few yards back. So like I said, the

3:32:00only difference really is now just suggesting the less time. Yeah, Coach, how's it you coming from where you coming from? You have a better perspective of what's going on. Yeah, I feel like I have a great understanding of the defense. I think at safety, I kind of already knew what the linebacks are doing. So now what I'm really starting to learn is like exactly like every little detail what the D lines doing. That's not really what I didn't know every little aspect of it. I think I'm starting to learn that now because obviously linebacker got to be knowing that more. So I think when it's all said, no, I think I have a really, really, really good understanding of the defense and knowing exactly what everyone's doing. You feel like you're warm enough to remember the mix of the defense to it. Right back here. He's out of sight because you can drop in one minute. Pass rush. That you're being. Yeah, I actually said, I think you can say it'll be an online back here in the play. You're almost in every play. Yeah, obviously the play can run away from you. But you know, it's safety. Sometimes you're just back there playing every guest. You take two back battles and it's a tackle. So I think yeah, a linebacker, you're in the play more. More chance more opportunities to make tackles.

3:33:01Do you feel comfortable there? I mean, what does that, you know, obviously your dad will stand out like that? Yeah, I feel super comfortable with it. Like I said, I think it's just going to be adjustment. You know, obviously he's different playing from a five than a one from playing from like 10 last year. So I think it's an adjustment, but I'm super comfortable with it. So any of you top here, dad, give me any advice on the new position? Oh, yeah, we watch, we watch table all the time. Watch practice. You know, he was a high level linebacker. And I'm just getting started with this. He gets a little shit with little footwork and stuff like that, but it's good. I get good teaching him, you know, obviously coach Lord Knight is great player, great teacher for him, coach Moles, you know, he's a super smart football mind. So I'm getting great teaching all around. The linebacker, everything happens quicker for you. How much did the experience playing some of that Sam's got five straight open with this? I think it helped a little bit less than in terms of physicality like being in the box down on the line, but I do think the the run fit as a will and a Sam can be a little

3:34:02different like in terms like I said, like being an interior fitter, like your 30 back here on A, you get pools, how you going to go spill it, so things like that. But I think I'm adjusting well. I think I'm picking up on stuff pretty fast. You know, this is still going to be a lot of stuff for him. Yeah, like do you feel more pressure talking to the media with your brother sitting right there? Not at all. What do you think has been the biggest change from linebacker and safety climate? I think the biggest change will probably be that that's 10 to 5. Because it's a big adjustment because everything's happening faster and you got to react faster. And like I said, the waist and movements, I think footwork is huge. I think you see the great linebackers. As soon as the play happens, they're going to not take any waist steps or not fall stepping, things like that. So I think waist and waist and movement and being able to see what's happening right after the fast. I mean, you know, you got someone out there that's it's more than a team.

3:35:02You know, we call each other brothers, but you know, blood's a little thicker. So that's always pretty cool. You know, it's always it's never one on one. Yeah, I think when you're blood like that, I think he's not scared to tell me the truth, you know, I'm saying, you know, obviously guys here, we have tough love, but I think it's always going to be a little different when it's your brother because he going to keep it 100% blunt exactly what you need to hear and know what you want to hear. What's your advice on playing Dickel? Oh, for him. I mean, he just so have let it. He just keep trusting his instincts. I think he's going to be great. I think what's huge for him is like I said, the athletic ability. Speed. You know, he bliss off the edge. He's we can be pleasant super fast. And he's just great in coverage too. So I think something really good. I think we'll be able to do a lot of different things kind of like you see a hand caught, obviously a little different body than a hand caught, but I think he's going to be really good at once. Except for not feeling these needs these needs this time.

3:36:07temporary injury here that you know, we're hopefully getting them back here soon. Yeah, I know progress being made and, you know, the biggest thing you try to figure out is when guys make mistakes, do they learn from the mistake and move on from it? He's done that. He's I saw him flash today in special team. So so that's good. That's positive. But, um, but yeah, I think the more guys are thrown into the fire, you kind of find out how they respond. And, and, you know, a lot of the installs kind of in now, I think we'll still continue to install some things and look at some different schemes on both sides of the ball. But the next two weeks, it really an opportunity for guys to go compete. And he's going to be one of them because we're trying to build three deep in each position based on, you know, the way next year is going to be with the playoffs and everything like that. We know we're going to we used to say a pair of spare. Now we need three at each position. So, uh, need to build depth at all positions. And so he'll he'll be somebody that'll be in the mix.

3:37:12Yep. Yeah, they were in the backfield of bunch, especially like you said, in the coming out period, you know, first time doing coming out, uh, little, um, you know, too loose on offense, you know, we got to tighten that up. But you can see the quickness with some of those interior guys and you know, you see Caden, you see some of the movement that's going on in there. I think Jason Moore, I think Larry talked about that. He's flashed, um, and showing that he can do it. So, you know, and then also, you know, on the edge, you see Mitchell Melton getting the backfield as a as a rush. Uh, you got a couple of sacks, I think today. So, um, you know, same thing. We're looking for, for, you know, three, three guys at each position because, uh, all those guys are going to play and we're going to roll this year because we know it's going to be a long season. Yes. Yeah. Um, I think any time you have somebody who's as talented as both of, both of those guys are, you know, you get excited about them, certainly in the recruiting process. But then when you have guys who have discipline and then skill like they do, that's when you

3:38:17have a chance to have a great player. I think both of them have discipline in their life. Um, I think both of them have built up a skill package. Caleb already has a year of college football on his belt at a high level. So, um, you know, he's further along that way. But, but Jeremiah has really stepped in. You know, he got his black black stripe off real quick. Um, he's got a great approach and, um, you know, I'm going to be careful what I say, but, but he's, uh, he's been certainly a pleasure to watch and we're all very excited about his future. If he continues on the path that he's on, uh, he'd have a, he's going to play a lot of football and certainly would have a chance to start as well. Yeah.

3:39:17Yeah, I think you're seeing CJ play fast, you know, he really likes, uh, blitzing. You can tell he's quick in there. He's doing a nice job timing up the blitzes and another year under his belt of experience, being in a room with Tommy Iconberg, steel chambers, watching how they did it. Now he's doing it. But I think you're seeing the, the speed and the athleticism and the length between, uh, Cody, uh, you know, Arvel, Sonny, CJ, you know, those guys are athletic, you know, gave powers. Um, you know, all these guys are, are guys who, uh, they can blitz, they can cover, they can, um, you know, check defenses. They think they're doing a good job with that. James and, and Jim have both done a really good job of training them that way. So, um, excited about that group, you know, in their versatility. They're not where they need to be yet. Um, you know, I'm glad we're not playing.

3:40:24So, um, the heart of spring practice, you know, kind of earned in there, earned their stripes. So, I would do it that way. Both of those guys deserve to get the best out there. Yeah. Yeah, I think the needs, uh, next year, I think the need and the play for this year, uh, same conversation. We have a position. He's very quick in short areas. I think he does a nice job in the slot. I think he's in this match. Well, a lot of guys in there because of his equipment. He's a very good row runner. Uh, for the quarterback, he's that excellent body language, uh, understands states really well, and operate in short areas. So, uh, the challenge to him is to be stronger, play on contact. But if you could do that, the most definitely.

3:41:33Yeah. Well, I think all the ones that should run hard just to, uh, just see some of the people that have a different, you know, schemes that we do. Very good job. Very, uh, discipline and approach. And you know, the guy that, you know, really bring value for it.

3:43:48Yeah, I just, I want to make sure we have, uh, we have to move the good candidate. That's a really good conversation. Uh, just want to make sure we get the right person in place. And definitely taking, you know, conversation, uh, you know, and feedback from, um, from, you know, a lot of people in the program to make sure we have the right guy. Because you're right, like, right now, there isn't, you know, like, have to get it done right now because of recruiting. Um, I feel like, you know, we should have somebody in place here by next week. Yeah. Well, he's finally healthy and he's actually, you know, putting stack and practices together. So I think that's probably the biggest thing. Um, because I don't think, um, you know, he's been able to really show what he can do because he's had some, you know, injuries here and there. And, and, you know, he put on a lot of strength and a lot of weight early on and it had a few issues.

3:44:48But now he's healthy. So at least we're seeing, see him out there learning and growing and making some plays. Um, so, you know, I think we're kind of halfway through and figure out how we grade it out today. Uh, but at least we're making progress because he's getting on the field and he's getting those reps under his belt. All right, guys, thanks. Okay. And, and having a plan, right? What if, what if it's not the look that I thought it was going to be now? What, um, where do my, where do my eyes need to be and how does that affect my decision? Um, but constantly playing those games both on the field, but also I think it's just as important to play that in your head. You know, we talk to those guys all the time that we're laying around the bed and, and maybe watching some film and, you know, looking at a clip and okay, what would I do here on this play? What would I do here on this play and constantly challenging your mind to play with an imagination, even when we're not out there on the field doing it. Um, it's an opportunity to grow up as an opportunity to get better and, and maybe somehow mentally I can put myself in that position. So if I do get a look that hadn't shown up on tape all year long, but they give us a different look on defense than maybe they've shown,

3:45:52I'm ready for that moment. The only way to do it is to make it grow. What's that? We're happy to see making it grow. Well, number one, um, you know, you're using Iron Buck guy. So, uh, which is pretty incredible. Obviously, we know that's a big deal around here and, um, his work in the way room was tremendous. So as, as an athlete, we've definitely seen that. And then, you know, I talked about it. We've seen him grow as a leader. Um, he's more vocal. Um, his presence has felt, I think he's playing with, with a little bit of an edge to him, um, which is good to see. I think you have to play that position with a little bit of an edge without, you know, ever getting too high or too low. Um, and that's contagious. Um, so we're seeing that right now from Lincoln. And then, you know, as far as, mechanically, it goes, um, you know, we're, we're definitely seeing Lincoln get the ball out quick. I think he's accurate. Um, you know, I think that his base has improved. Um, there's been, you know, a couple of things that in the spring, he was working on with his footwork. Um, and we've seen some drastic improvements that way. Because Lincoln's specifically, you know that he's had the Black Jersey on a lot of things that bloodstone probably does, uh, taken away by, well, in play day and things like that,

3:46:56how do you see him as an athlete in that regard while also not being able to see it as much on the practice field since he's not alive? Yeah. I mean, you know, you definitely can't see it to the full extent as though you go live. Um, but we still see it, you know, we still see it. You know, there's times when he's extending plays or stepping up through the pocket and, and taking off and going and, um, you know, there's no question. Lincoln's a great athlete and, and that's got to be something that he plays through his strengths. You know, that's got to be something that his game has in it, um, which, which he's shown to do a great job of, you know, he's made a couple plays throughout spring where he's extended the play and kept his eyes on field and made some great throws. Um, so, you know, that's, although we can't see that, uh, quite as well because we're not going live, uh, there's still definitely a feeling for that. You've got to learn that when it says in regard and kind of the sure there are things that do really well. How do you make sure that those guys are trying to win the competition on what they do well, but also making them get out of their comfort zone so they're being thrust into positions that maybe they're not super comfortable with to show you guys what they can do. Yeah, I mean, you know, as we, as we script practice and we go through it, we try to be extremely detailed,

3:48:00in the, in the different reps that everyone's getting and it's not like, you know, we would ever script a certain play on purpose because it fits someone's strengths better. You know, we want them to run the offense. Um, you know, the offense is always going to adjust to the skill set of the players that are in the entire offense, but at the end of the day, you know, the, the offense is going to be the offense. So from a decision-making perspective, from a throw perspective, those guys are going out there and getting those reps and competing in it. Yeah, right now we're just, we're just taking a day by day and really period by period on the field, meeting by meeting off the field. Um, you know, and, and you know, the one thing that's pretty cool is those guys are very competitive and they push each other hard and they're, you know, they're ultimately really good for each other because they both make each other uncomfortable because, you know, they're both very good players. Um, you know, and, and Tavians right there with them,

3:49:04included in that mix and, and above all that, they're still friends. You know, I think it's pretty cool right now. It's just, you know, you walk into that quarterback room and you've got a bunch of really, really good guys that all get along well and, and, you know, are willing to help each other out and give each other pointers and tips that they see something and, um, you know, it's, it's, it's an enjoyable environment to be around every day but, but ultimately those guys are competing, you know, um, they're going out there and they're trying to win the job and, I think, they realize that every moment is important and every period is important and they're going out there trying to get done. You talk about the last question, when you talk about a quarterback getting the fallout quicker, how much of that is, you know, efficiency of mechanics and how much of that is mental, like, how quickly they see something to think get the ball out faster. Definitely a combination of both, you know, um, I think when you look at a concept, you know, how quick can I process the information I'm getting from the defense and the way that I can process that information quickly is where my eyes are, my eyes are in the right spot. If I'm looking at

3:50:06the right thing and I can, um, anticipate what that defender is going to do and make a decision and get the ball out, right? That's, that's a major, major factor in it. And then there's also a piece of it, right? That comes down to the mechanics as well. Um, but I think more than anything, you know, it's, it's about making sure my eyes are in the right spot, um, making sure that I'm trusting what my read is and making sure that I'm getting the ball out and making a great decision with football. Coach, I still have to thank you very much. Thanks guys. Thank you. Yeah. Not too hard for me to put it behind me. Um, stuff happening in life, stuff happening in the game that may not go our way, but just by responding and coming out here and having fun. What do you know when you see older players, you know, pre, you know, from previous generations in the game that have had concussions and some of the struggles they're having in their older life. Right. What are these specialists telling you to alleviate any concerns that you may have about the potential of having to deal with those same problems, those former. Right. Yeah, that's a great question. Oh, man, a lot of the information and a lot of things

3:51:11before like during the time of those older players are a lot different than the knowledge and information that we have now and I mean, we're able to treat concussions and also back then is like if you got a concussion, they were sending you right back into the game. So now it's a lot different. We got a protocol and it gives your brain time to heal and everything. So I think things are setting plays now where it's a lot better than before and that time with we're making problems later on. So that's why I'm not really too concerned about it. Can you recommend it to you? Say it again. So a new helmet recommended by the trainer or Michael's dad? Oh, no, I just wanted to get into a new helmet. I mean, people have a refer to. They also don't know. During our team meeting has said how there's a number of helmets that are better than other helmets right now. So I just wanted to check those out and see what they are. Is this concussion any more severe than the others you had? No, that's one of the other things. I'm not going to give a whole seminar on concussions over here. But no, it's not necessarily more severe. Each concussion, just what I learned, each concussion is its own specific concussion. And you gotta give that time to heal and then once that's

3:52:16healed and ready to go, once you get back out here, you're good. So it's not like concussions are building on top of each other. Like if you give it time to heal, but I think before what guys were getting trouble with a long time ago is like they get a concussion, not fully healed and then they go right back out there and playing. Benzo, can you see a side or maybe part of it? Can you just reflect on how you've grown since showing up here in fairly 21? Is it a player or person who are you? Yeah, I've been here for a little while now. I've been enjoying every second of it. I always came in trying to be a captain and trying to lead these guys as best as I can. And I definitely feel that I've grown vocally and just trying to help build the team up and build myself up. So I'm just trying to do anything I can to help this team. Question situation like this, you're so close to reminding your brother. Do you have to sort of involve the family's decision from that guy? Yeah, definitely. They came down with me. So when I was, I had like when the team was here doing meetings, I was driving up to a Pittsburgh meeting with the concussion specialist and everything and they were with me and just easing their mind.

3:53:17That's the biggest thing. He's in their mind. They're all they're worried and everything, but they'll be okay. We saw the play with the Elijah Mothers head growing. We saw the play at practice. Yeah. Did you think for the up for two weeks after that? I mean, I was good. It was that day that I was kind of had a headache and everything, but I was pretty much good after that. But it's just about going through the protocol and I mean, there was no rush back. We weren't playing regular season games. So I mean, I was just really getting the time to heal. It wasn't any rush. You both are already in camp and still had a helmet to helmet. From your perspective, it has to be an expert. Are those doing what they're intended to do? You know, I'm saying like guys are still getting concussions and getting where I'm wearing. Yeah, it's definitely still a physical sport. So I mean, concussion happened regardless. I know if you were in a guardian cap or not. I think it could be looked at too. I know and just talked about

3:54:19on the guardian cap. I don't think in the back that is as much padding as I would like, but I feel it could be looked at. But I think you get a concussion whether you're wearing a guardian cap or not. So I mean, stuff happens. This is a physical game. Sorry. Just to clarify this, you said you're going to get any in-home. Mm-hmm. Also wear the guardian cap during the game? No, I'm not going to. You feel that about this game helmet that you've been wearing. Yeah. Yeah. What's the name and the brand of helmet? Like any details you have? Oh, I'm not sure the brand of name yet. I have to get it from those guys inside. But you guys would definitely be seeing it soon though. And how do you feel about not playing in a pretty decent game? Mm-hmm. You have to say it as your career where it's going to be good. Oh, I want to say it's not a big deal, but I don't feel any pressure any like, oh, I just needed to play in a pretty seasoned game. I feel that's a great opportunity for the younger guys to get out there and showcase what they're able to do. But I still been practicing and playing and working out and getting ready for the season. So, I mean, I know the game. I'm looking forward to that first game and I'm not really concerned about not being able to get a snap of the preseason.

3:55:23We think about MJ, who did feel that he'd be particularly during the joint practice against Jefferson. Mm-hmm. Yeah. MJ is the number one corner. I mean, you guys see it. He's going to be big for this year. And I think that's what's special about this team. We got three number one corners myself. MJ and Greg, I feel we all number ones and we able to do different things out there on the field. And one guy's out. Another guy can step in and not lose track or not lose pace on what we got going on. MJ, how do you grow as a leader in the early of the year 3 and he's trying to figure out this world as a guy that's bringing energy and also trying to bring people along? Yeah, definitely. Like you said, bring it in. That's exactly. Bring it energy, bringing guys along. MJ is real vocal out there and he competes as he's in competitor out there and just working hard and trying to be the best. He got the mindset of wanting to be the best and he is. So we just go out there and compete with one another. We're happy to see CD-LAM, get his contract signed and be ready to go out there and play this game and can face the thing. Mm-hmm. No, I'm definitely happy for him. That's like changing a contract and everything

3:56:25for him and his family. So definitely happy for him. I'm looking forward to going to having that match up in the game. I always love going against the number one guys and best guys on that team. So I'll be looking forward to it. It ends up, we got more of the history. It's concussions. We're talking about I think when you suffer the latest one, people who cover the team and then fans are wondering how loud the discussion could you contemplate and retire? Ever go through your mind or do you immediately know that you're going to come back? Yeah, like I said, this is a game I love, man. I love playing this game, being with the guys out here. I really don't see myself doing too much other stuff. So unless I'm just really physically unable to play this game, I don't see myself stepping away from football no time soon. So and like I said before, I can't take it easy on these receivers out here. So me being out here, I got to give them a good look and just go out there and play. But I answer your question now. I haven't seen myself walking away though. Are you actually out of protocol now? Yes.

3:57:27Yeah. Hey, did you know, uh, great cold miles harden this teal of drafts. What have you seen? Say it again. It's a great cold miles harden this teal of the draft. What have you seen from the other camp and what kind of excites you by him? Yeah, Miles. He's been balling. He's been showing out, making plays against the Vikings and just making plays out here. So it was big for him to make the team. I was happy for him. We all congratulated him and he's going to be a big piece on our team, like coming going forward. And so often, you mentioned making the receivers better. Where have you seen how you made Jamari talked about how you you've helped him, you know, as a rookie. What, what have you seen out of him his development? Yeah, he's been looking good since he came in. I think he's been getting better and better. He's night and day from once he came in. So where he's at now, I believe. I think that's just his competitive nature and what he's been doing out there in practice and us going against one another out there. So he's been good and he's going to be a big piece as well. That's our offense. What's the tip to you? What's the tip to you give receivers? How can you help a receiver? Yeah, I mean, it's a constant communication. Like if I were to win on a red, they may come and ask me

3:58:29what it is that you've seen on that play that you're able to get in position and I'll tell them that. I may ask them a question. So it's just that constant communication on how we could get each other better. Thank you guys. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Like, is that kind of the mindset that you take in every day of practice? Like you just say you're not happy during my catch-up. People like 98 out of 100 receivers in school. That's probably our not catching-up. That's what? Is that kind of a... Is it keep that in the back of your head and we want to get Jeremiah and Carnell and Brandon and a Mecha? Yes, that's my mindset. Like in practice the day, I want those boys to get me everything that they have so I go up and then Saturday and he's going to be easy for me and I'll be prepared. What have you seen with Grocery being young in the corners? Obviously we saw that he's not a Jeremiah last year. They're your main sorry, but Calvin and

3:59:34some of the Aaron some of the young guys. How do you see them? Um, and Scott has gotten completely better from his brain. Glad completely better. Is that just time in the program? I'm just getting used to the speed of college football, I would say. What about Calvin? He was obviously here last year. He was. Calvin has gotten a lot better. Like I would say that he's gotten a lot smarter. And he also write GB. I think he's there about Calvin's intelligence, you know, the, you know, where he's grown. Where specifically is it? The film room, is it kind of picking up, you know, the playbook? Where have you seen that? The brain up a grab? I would say Calvin has gotten smarter just like his game knowledge, like expecting like a different kind of wraps and stuff like that. Perfect. When did everything start to click for him last year? Was it in the soft scene? When did you feel really comfortable? I would say in the spring, I started to get a lot more comfortable in our defense. We say you break up the past yesterday with the share of my name, I'm sorry if you're asked about this earlier, but what is like going up against him? Do you? It seems like you

4:00:37enjoy it. Yeah, I love it. He's tough. I like going against him a lot. He's really good. What have you improved in your game just from that, for example, those those 101 matchups, this preseason or whatever, you know how badly he's this game? He is. So Jeremiah, he forces me to pay the back of the, if you don't pay the back against him, he'll go get it. Yeah, yeah. And you, and you Dave send it. How would you describe this defense now compared to this time a year ago from this 10 point of a confidence factor? You don't mean that you guys feel on the field? How would you describe it? It's different about it, I guess. I feel like everybody's a lot more smart at this area. Everybody's right. I would just say that we're going just just just smarter. Yeah, but you know, when you when you look up and late and ransom decided to come back and Caleb down, transfer it in, I mean, what did you feel about that? They did just grow stronger in that one week span, two weeks span. You're still on up saying? I feel like those guys have played

4:01:38the level those guys have played at. Yeah, I would say that like, you know, a downcoming and, um, we're way saved, coming back, zero saves, coming back, it's just so like, we'll be happy to be the night. Yeah, thanks, man. Of course. Bearing versus mobile quarterbacks helps us obviously being a GS helpers home and learn from our, what we had and how to go through the hole and how to scrap us, what we can learn from those crampals and we going from that game and the past game we played against Oregon just learning, learning the quarterbacks tendencies and when they like to run, where they like to run, and it really helps us out, really closing the cage and facing pocket problem. Is there a fine line between being aggressive but also being wary, this guy can slip away, you know, slip away, you're saying what I'm saying, timing? Yeah. You can't just go right at, I mean, go ahead, I'm sorry. Yeah, he's definitely a quarterback and then gets out and gets out of pocket. So I mean, he's definitely a threat. He's a main guy in offense, he runs the show. So I mean, be able to stop him and contain him, really slows the offense down. So be on the cage pocket and be able to slow him down and make him make more decisions on the run and

4:02:40moving around. It really helps us. Go ahead, just have one more, him, I'm sorry. Well, no, I didn't want to ask about their center. Their center, I impressed with you with him the last time you guys played. He seemed to have a pretty good game, you know, and he's kind of a, kind of, you know, actually, kind of a tough guy to move out of there and stuff he looks like. I mean, what's your impression of him? He's definitely one of the better centers in the conference. I mean, he's a really good guy. I mean, being there and there and being the size and being able to move the way he can is really hard to get around him at times, but he's definitely having the game plan and working against and working to tend to see that he has some good work against that. It really helps, it helps me. Yeah. You hit the real middle, Steven Leonard, college football foul. Yeah, kind of piggybacking on that. How much of it was there offensive line being a strike that are team versus Dylan Gabriel being able to escape and the lack of pressures that we had on our defense? Oh, yeah. I mean, when you got a good offensive line, it makes it even better for a quarterback, you know, being able to roll out, you know, that your line was going to help you protect you when you're in the pocket. So, I mean,

4:03:41it makes it easier for throws and it makes it harder for us, honestly, for having a good offensive line. So, I mean, like I said before, just being able to attack the offensive line, attack the weaknesses and be able to go after it and make it harder for the quarterback, means harder for them or rural. Or for a right, Andrew Gillick, believe in Doc Proff. What's the challenge similar to Tim's question and you know, when you play a team like this that runs the level of RPOs that they do that runs the level of the offensive line? How do you stay true and be aggressive and force the issue where, you know, Dylan Gabriel is really going to make it the greatest. Oh, yeah. Like I said, just putting pressure on them, I mean, do you really get it, get back there? I mean, we got a lot of different plays that can help us get back to our passer and playing and playing to their tendencies, you know, a lot of times they have the RPO, the RPO helps them out, it means you get the ball out fast. I mean, I mean, things like Jackson and JTB, you know, get their hands up, knock the ball down, crazy stream them out of pressure for the quarterback when you got hands in your face all times. And final questions, Bill Rubino, what's the Columbus dispatch? We've asked about Dylan Gabriel and the receivers. They're not one dimensional. They're a good running back in Jordan James. What makes him

4:04:42special and what's the challenge for you guys? I think he's definitely one of the better running backs on the conference of well. I mean, just how hard he runs is it's hard to bring him down at time. So I mean, as a front pro, we probably stopped in the run. That's the first thing we're going to do is we go on the game. I mean, past rushing is good and all, but we can't stop the running. I mean, we're going to run the ball there and throw all the time. So all the time we have to figure out how we're going to stop them. We're going to run the ball and then we're going to take them down. So, I mean, it's our job as a front pro to go on there and stop the run. We're going to make them one dimensional as we go out there. So I mean, if we get out there every time every mindset, we go out there and we're going to get them. We're not going to allow them to get in the yards, allow them to get going. We're going to stop them. We're going to make them throw the ball. When JTB was up here asked him about how to compare contrast him and Jack as personalities. What's your take on that? How different are they as just personalities? I definitely think Jack is more outgoing. I mean, the guy is nice, the light that shines around. I mean, everybody goes around him and everybody loves him. He's an outgoing guy. They're going to come to you, shake your hand any time of day. And then JT's more of the blue guy. I mean, a lot of

4:05:44guys gravitate to him. I mean, he just has a bright smile on him all the time. He's just a great guy that people would like to be around. And they're two good people. So it's hard to tell. And Ty, I do that one more question for you. Tony Irvin, like that. You guys obviously have faced Tepo. You did it last week. What's the key for you as a defensive one in facing Tepo? Yeah, I mean, we've been going through all week in the past two weeks. It's just getting set. I mean, that's the first thing you can do. If you're not set, it makes it harder to do your job. So let's be honest, get on the ball, get set before they're lined up and set the ball is one and more important thing. So when we're set, we're able to do our jobs at the efficiency they can before they can do theirs. How does it feel to them? It can be difficult at times. You know, you gotta look to the signline first. You gotta get the call. I mean, the call has to be set down first. So it can't be difficult at times, but that's the definitely what we've been working on the past three weeks to just get the call, get the call, early get set so we can go and be play faster. You've changed the play to one side of the field. And now, it's lined up. They're going to be ahead and to the other side. So like, you've got to just run the signline to the sideline just to get the money. Yeah, I mean, I have been a lot of last game, you know, it's hard. It's definitely tough.

4:06:47I mean, that's what we work on and practice. Just moving as fast as we can, we're simulating these things so we can get into the game. It's a lot easier. So we move it around, side to side, run around, doing extra conditioning just for moments like this. Hi, thank you very much. All right, thank you. Fact is you know, you're not going to get hit, but more preseason and first couple games, I'm excited to see see what that looks like. I think of the sheets. Especially on me side of man, like I said, from jump. He's a special, special player. You don't really get that so many players like him that's so quick, so fast, at least speed and I ain't to run routes too. So I'm excited to see what he does in the future, but I feel like that's the least they can do for him this year. How do you think he would get me on board another? It's just speed, man. Speed, you can't teach speed at all. Just having us on opposite sides, even to play on both sides. Just speed down a field. You can run 15, 20 yard end breakers, out breakers. And like I said, you're going to have to play two safes most of the time,

4:07:50or you can run the ball, you can get underneath routes. It's going to be a great compliment to the offense. So I'm excited. Chris, you said you hope this new offensive, but playing makers in the decision to make plays. What about you specifically? What's an area where you think you'll have more opportunity than this year game? It's a lot of areas that you can see to look at, to improve my game, but yards out the cases are one I'm looking forward to, just more opportunities with that, more space. Just to showcase my speed and my ability with the ball. So I'm excited to do that this year. Something that I really showcase the first two years, so I'm excited to be with the quick game element of it, just getting the ball in your hands. Like, quick game, play action, more over the middle routes. It's a lot of different things that you can say that this guy's going to help that, but like I said, I'm excited. How would you describe the chemistry with you and Garrett? We're getting way better, man. I mean, it was our first year last year,

4:08:54so it was kind of up and down, but that's what it comes with the game of football. So we worked a lot this off season, OTAs, which was really good. And we got off to a good start these first two days of camp getting extra working, but that's going to come with time. So I'm not worried about that at all. We both competitors, we both want to be the best. So we got to do something to be good. Where do you kind of notice that difference? Just like feel on the route? What do you kind of notice now that it's year two? That's more natural. What do you mean? So, like, Derek, are you when you do your action? Where do you kind of know? It's just like, it's more than that, man. It's in a fail. Everybody, everybody's good. So we just got to know what each other is thinking, pre-snap, post-snap, cover cheese, where the balls won't go. Just reads what read I am in and progression. Everything goes along with that. So just being on the same page, being like I say, chemistry is built with time. So just little stuff like that that turns into big things is going to be huge.

4:09:55You caught one from Spencer Routland at 8-2. What are your early impressions from? It's real talented. That's the first thing I've seen from him. His arm talent is out the charts. He's a real natural feel out there. He's going to be real good. I want to see him in action, but from my first impression, he's going to be a real good player. It's going back to the sheet that you talked about all the different stuff you should do. You think there's still a lot more there for him? Oh, yeah. He hasn't really, I think this is first year being receiver two or really receiver. In my opinion, we both receive a one. So just be able to move around, run real routes. I feel like it's going to be a huge advantage for the same. So it's a special player and I can't wait to see him ball. I can't wait to see him get more opportunities. And you can see what he can do. My run real routes, he's just like an opportunity to run. Yeah, just getting more, you know, he hadn't really played too many plays in his first few years.

4:10:56He kind of just get thrown in there when he's getting the ball or when he's a decoy or something like that, but he's actually being involved in the offense. He's always been in, even on run plays. I feel like he's going to be a huge advantage for him to get a feel for the game and be more natural out there. How hard is a receiver like that for the shed kind of, you know, think of him as the deep threat label and then so people just think of him as a deep star, but he can do more. How hard is it to kind of shed that label or that perception in life? I mean, that's what life, everybody is trying to label somebody as one thing or two things, but I feel like you can showcase. I mean, that's not really who we are, you know what I'm saying. As you get, as he gets more opportunities as you can see, you can see he can do more and more. That's what anybody on the team. So I'm excited, like I said, and for his huge opportunity is going to get this year. It's going to be a big one for the Saints. Does this scheme ask for more blocking from the receivers? Is there more responsibility? Oh yeah, for sure. I mean, that's what I told you too. We both have to block.

4:12:01I know we're not the biggest guys or the strongest, but like I said, we want to be on the field. We got to be on the field for the play action plays, all those things. So we both got to go block B-line and block linebackers, but that's what coming football. So we both got to take that next step in our game. Is that somewhere there's like a payoff? Like you know, I thought you'd play from play action next time. Yeah, so it's going to be a huge payoff. Like I said, most of our office is based on play action, all the in-breakers, all the yards at the catch up plays. So we got to go in there and block. Like I said, take that next step and be able to be grateful for our team. Like being here? Oh yeah. So, I feel the weather out here, man. That's what I'm used to. Not using the warlands out there trying to catch my breath, but it's a great opportunity for us. Can you get a chance to see family and friends at office if this is their football friend here? Not yet, but they don't come by every time. Appreciate you, John. We're going to see the whole field while he's in the pocket are two big things in terms of his accuracy.

4:13:06All right, I'm very WBNF. Coach, this is kind of uncharted waters with the new playoffs system and everything from an offensive standpoint. How much of the offense is in and are you holding things back because there's some poofy? I mean, how do you manage all that? Yeah, I don't think we hold anything back. I think our offense is always game plan specific in terms of who we're playing and how do we attack what they do? Each defense you face is somewhat unique. And so you can say, hey, this team's a little bit like this team, but not totally like that team. So I think it's not, hey, this is a really good play. Let's not run it because we're going to need it down the road. It's, you know, you have to win every game. And I don't think you can take that approach of let's save this for another game because you don't know how games are going to express themselves during the course of the game itself. So everything we do is just game plan specific, especially now that we've gotten into a conference play. All right, pretty much in. Yeah, I mean, we could add stuff that I think we may have done in the spring,

4:14:09but we haven't used yet just because we haven't faced that defense yet. Thanks for the whole work. Larger than all. Chip, in 2022, your UCLA offensive line was a semi-finals for the Joe War award. Today, there's some offensive lines, maybe semi-finals for that. Do you see similarities for the way that that unit was playing and the way that Justin has your guys playing right now? Do you make me think back? I think they're different. I don't really, I've said it before. I'm not into comparing one group to another group. I didn't know that that's pretty cool for those guys. That's a prestigious award. You know, those guys usually go unnoticed. You know, that's the nature of the position if you're an offensive lineman. They, you know, they're either close or too valuable hardware. They don't really get a lot of attention. They're not the guys that are out in the limelight, let some of these other guys. But they work their tails off. You know, I think that's the, the gist of anything that's going to be a really good football team. It has to be strong on both lines and the fact that they've been recognized for that. That's something that's that's pretty cool. But now we got to live up, we got to live up to that standard every day.

4:15:10So you guys know who I started with, those awards, that's coaches, but to see the the way that those guys have responded since losing Josh. That's has a play car and the leader in the office. How do you, have I waited that? What do you think of the even way that's playing without you? I've been really impressed. And I think really Donnie and Seth have really stepped up in, in that leadership part. You know, and I think the two of those guys have really kind of led from the front to tough, hard-knosed physical players. Obviously Donnie being selfish and moving from left guard to left tackle was a really big deal for us. And he continues to work at his craft every day because, you know, I think everybody just thinks all line. But you know, all five of those positions are really different. And it's not easy to go from one position to another position. And the fact that Donnie's done that has been great. And I think Seth really, because he calls all of our identifications and and directs what our blocking schemes will be, you know, is really kind of fell into that leadership role force. And I think our guys are rallying behind those two. All right, Dave Holmes. WSYF. Ryan talked a little bit about his upbringing at Fenway Park in historic baseball.

4:16:13And he's wanting to get your thoughts on playing a game in Riggly. Yeah, I think it's cool. You know, I've not seen, I've seen just highlights of a football game in there. And I've been to a game at Riggly when I was out recruiting once. The fact that you can play in settings like that is pretty cool. And I think it makes it unique. You know, obviously, they're refurbishing their stadium. So, you know, they got to be on the, they got to either build the one that they did on campus or go to Riggly. So the fact that we get to be the one team that plays in Riggly, I think it'll be pretty cool. And I think our players won't do that. Awesome. More on the podcast. Chip, I know every game plan every week is different. Contention on the opponent. But it's felt like the last couple of game plans and we need a little bit more on Will's over Russian threat. What's motivating that decision? The defense is that the people deploy. You know, sometimes they always have an extra guy in the box. And if you run the quarterback, then that evens numbers back out. It's as simple as that. You know, some teams don't do that. And other teams do do that. So, you know, it's just sometimes when you get, especially when you get in a conference play, I think there's a lot of people in this league that know how to stop the run.

4:17:15So, you know, you're going to be able to have a mobile quarterback and it helps so Will has that mobility. The land is Kings of the North. Chip, do you ever interrate off the play or change something up kind of just for the sake of doing it to break a tendency or put something different on film or is it always opponent specific? No, it's always opponent specific, but you still self-scout yourself and what are we doing out of this formation and what is our run pass ratio and even within that, within out of this formation all runs are this, you know. And then that's always the fine line. Well, we should do something different. Well, what we're doing is working. Why would we do something different? You know, so you kind of play that game and go back and forth with it. But we're constantly working on self-scout of ourselves and tendencies that we're trying to just understand. But some tendencies are good tendencies. You know, you could be, hey, you're 90% run out of this formation. You're also 90% success out of this formation. So, you know, do you not call that ever again because you think that they think that you think this, you know, you can get into that real dilemma of just,

4:18:16you know, it's still about executing and still about lighting up and playing. But we do spend a lot of time on that. That's part of what our weekly game plan meetings are about. We need more emphasis on that in a college football season. That can now be 17, 18 games where you want to make sure you're sprinkling in different things so that if you get the game 17 and a team as a pretty expansive book on you guys, you know, why is that they can't, you know, key in on something you've done all year. You want to make sure you get out of this change. Yeah, there has to be some of those. But again, I think you can drive yourself crazy when we put this on tape and they think that we can do this because they know that we can do that. They can't do that. And we do that. Then it, I didn't make any sense what I just said. And that's what's going on in your head when you're starting to think about all that stuff too. So it's that process. You know, I still think you have to part of being really good at it is what are we good at and how do we continue to be good at it so that everybody in the stadium doesn't know, hey, they're running the ball over the right side on this play because that's what they always do. You know, I think you're still trying to

4:19:18mass some of those things, but you still have to play to your strengths. Ship, you kind of offered a question about what running, I think you know, the class of your company's going to be good. You mentioned you don't have to do any of those soccer practice. You'd be power all the time. But how do you see Will's progression in understanding or reading what he does his want? You know, when it comes to handing off to Q or Dre, pulling or is that more from you guys? That's not the only thing you want to do. You want to pull the ass off of him. No, no, it's a good question. We don't tell him we want you to do this or want you to do that. It's totally a lot of that stuff is if it's a read play, it's he has to read it out and how he sees it. Just like we don't tell him where to throw, you know, it's the plays called to the Curl or the flat, but it depends, there's a defender defend the Curl or defend the flat. Like you can't tell him before the play, throw the Curl because I know the guy's going to chase the flat. Well, then he sits in the Curl and you throw a pick. And it's, Coach told me to go there, you know, we know it and we told you to read this player. So it's the same thing with some of the read plays that we run. And I think he does a really good job.

4:20:20You know, he was really well trained. I think Chris climate is a great job and Colin climate is a great job at K-State. And, you know, so Will's got a really, really good understanding of our running game. You know, it was more of just learning the terminology here as opposed to what it was like there. But I think he does a really, really good job of that. And when we put something in new, it may be new to this unit, but it's not new to Will. It's just, oh yeah, we ran this. And then we'll go back and actually look at K-State tape with him and, you know, kind of pick his brain, how do you read it and how is it presented to you? What's the best way for us to present it so that we can execute? You're like, I've been told this is bad. So what do you see as the advantage from, from huddling more and just sort of planning to slow pace of play in offense versus past couple years, you can achieve a real more place, prevent it from your arm, now pace a little slower, just what does the advantage of that? Yeah, I think you can communicate better. You know, so obviously the thing that's changed this season, and I think a lot of people have slowed down, is the ability for the quarterback to communicate with everybody before the play.

4:21:23You know, before it was just everything was driven by signals and everybody was looking to the sideline and then getting everybody on the same page. So there's some teams in some times when that's to your advantage. You know, I think more people do it to us because they don't want the bone or hands, so that I think the game has, we don't get as many possessions right now, as we have in the past, just because I think all sides are doing it a little bit more. But I think the communication thing that you're allowed to talk to the quarterback up to 15 seconds on the, on the play clock is one of the advantages of huddling. If you're earning it to you guys, have also done it to take more time. Does it keep you in mind to do the other team to see? Yeah, it gives us an advantage again from being able to communicate, so what will can talk to the offensive line about, you know, remain like normally you'd send a play in, but he couldn't give them like, these guys are 85% twist and boundary corner on this play, so make sure that we're really high alert for that. You know, so there's, there's a lot more that goes on. It's not a two-way conversation because he can't talk back to you, but you know, we have a style of speaking in that situation,

4:22:26so that we can communicate some different things. Before it was, you just called the play and broke, now you can give them a lot more information. You know what I mean? There may be a player you got injured to play before. Hey, there's a new left corner in the number 15. We talked about him, we saw him on film. This is what he's susceptible to. Let's make sure we're attacking him when you know he's in. Instead of you waited until you get to the sideline between series and go, hey, there's a new corner and I didn't know he was in, but you can communicate that stuff now. Give me a minute, Rob. Oh, thanks, Jerry. Hold up on that a little bit or just on offensive plays. Do you ever have times in games where you have to say to yourself, I got to be disciplined here, I got to call some run plays. I know it sounds kind of stupid, but I mean, to have the balance when you look at this lineup with Jeremiah and Mecca and Carnail and you know, you could throw them all 50 times a game and nobody would question that either. You're still on them saying, does it take discipline to also stay with the run game? I think it takes discipline to know what the defense is trying to take away from so, you know, for you to try to continue to throw it if they're going to play

4:23:30high safety and light boxes, you know, you should be running it more than, you know, and when people are loading up the box, take away your run and saying, hey, we're not going to let you run the ball in the situation and you are still trying to run the ball in the situation. That's what I think the discipline is. So sometimes it's not consecutive plays in a row or series, it's just kind of what are they like? Because you take, say you're playing Northwest, you have nine game break down in Northwestern. This is what they've done for their last nine games. What, as you go into the really first, second, third series of a game, is what we saw in the last nine games actually happening in this game. And if it is, then we're pretty solid in terms of our game plan. If not, then you may have to morph a little bit towards run or a little bit towards pass based upon how they decided they were going to come out this week. Because they may have come out in the previous nine weeks and done this, but in your game, they're doing it a little bit differently. So it's the ability to make those adjustments and kind of lean one way or the other. You know, I think it's the discipline part you're talking about. Not just saying, well, we're just going to chuck it, you know, but if they're playing really deep and you're still trying to throw it deep,

4:24:33then that's not smart either. You know, I don't mean to sort of throw it deep every time. Okay. You just want us to throw it every time? Yeah, yeah. That's fine. My loss of winning down aired out. But follow up, well, once you can't do it. You're not a Woody Hayes guy then, huh? Yeah, and that one. Well, come on. You can't go both ways. I've heard of it now that we have a Texas guy. Okay, so you're not a Bear Bryant guy. Yeah, yeah, we've got about that later. Okay. When you walk into a place like Wrigley Field, you seem to have a feel for history and stuff. And Gail Sayers ran there, you know, Dick Buckis played there. Yeah. Most people that take their all-play and so is your field and stuff, do you think about that kind of where you are? I will Friday because we're actually going to get to the stadium and get a chance to kind of look around and see what it looks like. But is that end of the day? Oh, yeah. Do it too. It always does. I mean, I love whenever we were wherever I've been when you get a chance to go play in some of these iconic stadiums and players that you saw when you were growing up and play here. That's always a really cool part about what we get to do. But yeah, that'll be fun.

4:25:34I think everybody's excited about playing the Scandal Wrigley. Okay, go, thank you very much. All right, thanks, guys. You know, just more so let's get off the ball. We're kind of impacted working with Brian Young, the Spatsby cap. But defensive line as whole. Made a big impact. Be-wai, you know, obviously, a little bit. You know, we went back to the basics just on technique, footwork, just to fundamentals. And I think that definitely helped prepare this for the game. Reels, rotations on the defensive line, different this week. Just getting maybe more plays to see what's together. So I kind of rotate them while. Yeah, it was more so, you know, six plays. If you guys get tired, just rotate out. But it's a cool rotation. And definitely helped us stay fresh. Even that last drive during the fourth, guys, we were just a lot fresher.

4:26:34Able to rush the passer. So I feel like it benefited us. Is there also just a, like, I don't know, just like getting in the big, the game flow when you're not where you're kind of subbing in and out? Yeah, sure. You know, you can get more into a rhythm. Yeah, definitely. Cam, I came up with that second and fourth quarter that I don't know if it pushed him out of total range, but obviously, Mr. Fogel right after that. Like, Cam's obviously a leader on this team. When he makes a big play like that, like how much maybe does that give a boost of adrenaline to the defense? A big boost. Because, you know, that's, you know, that's, that's, that's, that's been his camp right there. You know, all you look at and just smile. But it was a, it was a big boost. You know, definitely makes you get on your horse a little more. And just keep your head down and keep grinding throughout the game. That's key and prestige the way that he's kind of accepted his role this year. You know, he's not playing as much as he used to, but obviously, and kind of just embrace that and does a do anything for you. Yeah, man, I've been learning a lot from Cam, especially technique-wise.

4:27:39You know, I would ask him about just, you know, how I would look at his old film, I asked him about, you know, what was he saying? And, you know, during this particular play. But I think he's a, he's an awesome leader. He welcome me and my open arms come here. And, you know, that's my guy. Hey, uh, when, like, some really like time stands up from the team, so, like, I've been playing up to my own expectations. Like, I'll, I will be better for the, like, what, what does it mean when somebody hits the statue of a guy who grew up watching him? Yeah, I mean, T5, he had to do, man. I mean, you know, every game make him be your best game. That's the lead. You know, but he came up close with a pick. I mean, you know, regardless of it all, he always finds a way to get interceptions on the high-key doing it. But he, he, he definitely, um, I smiled at that too. It was like, you know, I watched him high school,

4:28:40really just his whole career. So it's, uh, it's harder to be planned with. Um, Rizzie talked about kind of changing some things every now and then to make Peter a lot of uncomfortable. Um, what's the value of that from a player perspective? Um, I think, uh, just in terms of, you know, staying uncomfortable, um, things that mental aspect, um, you know, going through a game, um, you know, things may not go your way. Just being in that uncomfortable state and always having the will to push them, fight through. How have you seen the changes with the benefits rather of those changes that you all make this week? I mean, like, from practice that's scheduled to, um, your position rules and lifelong? Yeah, I mean, I think we can see it, um, you know, during the game, um, we, we just watched film, um, I even know myself, uh, during the run. I was, uh, just in my hand placement was a lot better. Um, you know, because we were just refined a lot of the smaller details, um, that B.Y. felt like we needed to, uh, to, uh, fix. So, um, I think it's

4:29:41paying off. And you also talked about confidence, uh, a minute ago. From you all side of the ball, obviously, up there, bigger, rising, on the past week, how much was the confidence boost from what you get from this win? Oh, uh, a lot. Um, a lot, I felt like we, uh, the whole week, you know, we was talking about finishing and I felt like we did that. Um, you know, we, we, we, we kept our heads down. We went back to, we went back to the basics, um, the fundamentals technique, hand placement, um, you know, that lean that you have to have. And, um, you know, just refining the small things and it, uh, it all paid off. So it was definitely a confidence boost. How would you describe Peyton Turner from your, from your time with him, watching him through training camp and then having a bigger impact this past weekend? Yeah, not Peyton, um, great player, um, great teammate, um, you know, that's, that's, uh, that's, I think, a guy that's a team I, um, grew closer with, um, but a great, I mean, he's a, he's a great player, a hell of a hell of a guy.

4:30:46Your ship not only from me, but from a few other guys on my group, it will be really special throughout this next 18 days. What does that say? What does that say? Yeah, no, you know, I mean, you know, Peyton, he's been, he's been doing, you know, everything right. I mean, he's been, you know, bouncing around, um, he's been, you know, face a lot of adversity as well, but I mean, he's, he's, he's prevailed and he's been doing a great job leading and stuff like that. Um, being a younger guy, I'm self-reliant to step up and take their roles, been huge and only for me, but for, um, our entire team and our, for, um, our unit and so for him to continue to take those steps, you know, it's going to be really important to those offices and be, or throughout this, uh, season through this office season, because we have a really long season coming up, um, like we know, we, you know, it's going to take everybody, um, and last year really showed that. So I think that leadership not only coming from, you know, like a couple of guys, but from the entire group, it needs to be so important because we're, like I said, we're going to need everybody. We're playing for a while, that you become a starting left guard that you move back to center and you become the starting zone and actually to get to the center. Yeah. You already answered a little bit with place question, but what a whirlwind

4:31:50last year came out on top. Yeah. As you reflect on that, what comes behind? Yeah, I mean, just how blessed I was, um, just, you know, continuing to come at blessings. I mean, um, I never thought, you know, that would be the case, you know, I know going into Penn State, but Coach, where I was like, I never played it, but you want to give her a shot and I was like, shoot, why not? Um, and through that, you know, I couldn't be more blessed. And then from, uh, taking over after Seff got, her Seff got injured in him being there still coaching me not, not just like taking a back seat and working on his NFL journey, um, but he really sat, you know, sat back and home me out, was a blessing as well. Um, being able to play with guys like, um, with two first rom picks, um, in three all Americans and Josh Farrish would have been all Americans to really four all Americans. It was really, um, you know, such an honor to me and be able to play with those guys. I just been blessed to play with a lot of really great people. Coach, it's talked about, you know, Austin's development and how quickly kind of he flipped the switch after title game, how motivated he was. When did you kind of see him flip the switch? Did you talk to him at all like, that the motivation he had to get better and play a big role this season? Yeah, you know, I mean, pigs always a really

4:32:54intense guy. I mean, especially when, you know, uh, we're doing, um, any off season training or something like that. Like he's definitely got that gets people going. Um, he's a really strong guy, really competitive. And so for him to just kind of, um, you know, unravel a little bit more of that, um, and just kind of like, uh, bring that raw emotion, I think to what we do has been really, um, just fun to see. Um, I think it's kind of like a culmination throughout the entire off season from winter training to summer training to now. And he's just continued to, um, steadily incline on that, um, a really great leadership. Um, so the long way to go, but I think he's been doing a really great job in learning, um, his capabilities and what he's, uh, able to do for the group. Yeah, it's been awesome. And to work with guys, like I said before, like, LaTarls has been like, uh, like, probably one of the great splesings I've been able to have throughout the last seven months. I mean, um, through, um, what he's done for me through what coach bone has done for me, coach Dickie, coach Johnson, um, all those guys, uh, guys that really helped me out, uh,

4:33:58to become such a better player than I was. Um, it's just been really important. Just so I can like narrow down on what I, um, need to do because, you know, as a center, you kind of need to be able to play all three positions and, um, getting comfortable, like, in my body posture and, um, and stance and, um, how I drive off the ball and stuff like that is important, not only for center, but for everything. So, um, I, I've just been blessed with the opportunity and people honestly. You mentioned, uh, we're playing behind, uh, we obviously played next to the end of hope players. What did you learn mentally to kind of help your game grow? Yeah, and I think, you know, from being in those huddles being with, I mean, even with great leaders like, well, Howard and stuff like that, I found that we always play the best when we can play fast and we're having a lot of fun. Um, I think we play really, really hard when we're having fun with each other. Um, I think when we kind of have that mindset of we're going to burrow down and, um, you know, it's us against, you know, whoever, um, it's us collectively, our unit, um, against, um, whoever we don't want to, you know, line up across from us. I think that's what we

4:34:59have our strongest mindset and collective, uh, force together. And I think, um, playing with Donnie and playing with Josh Fyre and Jot or Jimmy and, uh, and Seth and, uh, you know, all those guys in the past and stuff like that, they've taught me that, um, you know, physically we can be really capable of, uh, mentally all together. Like we're, um, pretty hard to deal with. Of course, it's going to be like the biggest difference between a center who's getting ready to start the first time in his life and a center who's been through the battles and has a bunch of experience. Yeah. Uh, I mean, a center who has a lot of green mind as he goes out there and he, he's really just hoping he just doesn't mess up. He's open, you know, uh, this now gets the quarterback. He's, he's hoping on a lot of stuff, you know, he's not really, uh, dictating anything. He's not, he's not going up there and, um, deciding it. He's like, okay, I'm going to give this guy two options. I know, um, I've watched enough film. I know the tendencies of this player. I've played these guys before. Um, I kind of have a feeling of what this decordinator can do or what he likes to do just from learning from different experiences and different coaches. Um, so just being able to

4:36:01go there now with experience is huge. Um, I didn't think I knew how valuable experience was, um, two years ago. Um, and I saw a lot of experience to get yet. I think in my experience or in my journey, my career, but, um, so far, I think, um, the experience has been, you know, invaluable for me, uh, just from those past two years. So now, yeah, I'm excited. Um, I was looking up a bunch of, like, uh, trash talk in German, uh, forum, just so the ref doesn't get us on a couple, you know, but, uh, no, I'm pumped actually. It's, it's me fun to see him. I mean, I'm, me and him, you know, been best friends for the past couple of years living together. Um, and so it's been, you know, it's a blessing to be able to go and play up against him. And I don't, I don't really know where he's playing at right now. I guess position wise, specifically, but, um, wherever he's at, I'm pretty excited for a double TMI. I'm in hopefully rolling over a couple of times. German, uh, I really just, um, call a pommelish, which is like chubby.

4:37:05That's really good. Um, I'm kind of the type to like just kind of keep moving forward and we'll celebrate after, but a lot of the guys were talking to me about it. We'll never, we'd go, it was pretty cool. I don't know if y'all saw we had like little tent on the sideline because it was like hot. So yeah, our equipment team did a really good job with that. So it was kind of a cool vibe because you couldn't really see like the fans or anything. It was like right over you. It was, it was cool. And yeah, I felt like a little huddle, but uh, yeah, I don't know. I didn't really let it, I didn't want to let it get to me because sometimes what can happen is like once you start getting like numbers up, like you'll kind of get satisfied. I'd be like, Oh, okay, like I'm kind of done for the game. Like I don't really need to. When really you can get a lot more. So yeah, I don't know. I think it was the first drive was I had like 1.5 or so. Yeah. And yeah. So I mean, like the second most in a game in Carolina history, like the only one who had more was Julius Peppers. Like, yeah, you don't seem like somebody who would get too excited about that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I didn't even know that. Obviously, uh, until after the game. That

4:38:05was pretty cool. What'd have been nice to get one more. But yeah, it was, that was pretty cool. Hopefully, I'll have some more opportunities to do that. Yeah. But yeah, it was, it was pretty cool. Yeah. You have taken some heat for your celebrations. Not being a fan of. Yeah. Yeah. Did you use the biweek to refine any? No, I mean, especially like I'm sure you all saw the video that they put out with like the both legs. Yeah. That was, that was pretty funny. Um, I think honestly, at this point, I got to like stick to it now. Like now that I've, like, there's a name for it. So, yeah. But honestly, it's pretty, because like I've basically like sent, I mean, you can ask like my parents, like, since I was in like middle school, I've, I've never like been like soup. Like I just get really excited. And I just like start like flexing out. Like, since I've been like 11 years old, I've always done that. And yeah, there's like a ton of high school pictures of me doing it. And yeah, that's just what I've always done. So it's pretty funny. I think a big positive for that celebration is like normal people in the stands can do it. Yeah. Which is not the case with some celebrations. Yeah. Yeah. Like even I could do the both legs. Yeah. Yeah. But I like the way he

4:39:13doesn't like he doesn't stand over the quarterback. He's just celebrating like dude, he just asked the quarterback. It's time to both legs. Yeah. Have you heard from either both legs or bow jangles are from the care on inside? I have not. I mean, I haven't I guess I haven't done a great job of reaching out. But yeah, I probably shouldn't. Let's go. Well, they should call you. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. If I can't buy the bow meal at Keenan Stadium by Saturday at 8 p.m. Do you like the Bose Sackinson? It's kind of hard to do. Yeah. Yeah. I like it. I like it. That's actually interesting because Keenan actually was the one who made that up last year. Like our first game last year, we played South Carolina and I had like two or one and half or something like that. And so Keenan was calling me that last year too. So it was pretty interesting to see like the origins of that. Yeah, just need a little momentum. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. Exactly. Okay. You've legally agreed to give us 10% of anything. Were you impressed, jealous, or something else, which Javari Ritzies

4:40:20picked six against Virginia? Oh, no, that's that I mean, I'm sure you all saw the clip too. Like that was all him. Like there was literally like a shallow pat like it wasn't even like a screen or something. The shallow he like tipped it up caught it and then Heisman the quarterback while holding the ball like a loaf of bread in the other hand and like, I don't know. He's a freak for sure. So I mean, that was just straight impressed there. I don't know. I haven't had an interception here and I don't know if I had any high school either. So really? Yeah. That was that was pretty sick to see him doing that and then like running down the field next because I was on the field at the same time. Yeah. Yeah. Were there any moments where you wondered if he was going to run out of gas? Honestly, no. Just because I like I mean doing like the workouts the whole summer with him like he's a three-tack but like he's just not really because like he's just so free like he's big enough to do it but he's also so athletic for his size that yeah. No, he's a freak for sure. So all right. Tell us a little bit about growing up bow young bow. Tell us a little bit about your background. Growing up bow. Hmm. I started playing football when I was like seven or so. My dad played

4:41:27College Football at Yukon and my mom played College Voidball at Yukon. So they were both there and so I always was around athletics pretty much my whole life. We were like super competitive like anytime we get in trouble we'd be doing like push-ups and that stuff. I remember when I was like five years old like we'd have a game where like my dad would sit on the couch and we'd like go back basically doing like one-on-one like playing receiver in DB or some I have two brothers and sisters so very competitive household. I started playing football when I was like seven or whatever. Mostly because my dad played football into my older brother. I don't know I'm not sure if you all are familiar with the like the pop-worn or super bowl stuff where you like you go to or land though. So my older brother had done that a couple times so after that I was like okay I definitely want to start playing football. I started playing. My dad was my coach and then we end up doing the same thing. We went to Super Bowl twice since seventh-eighth grade and then from there is history high school football. Where do you fall in the siblings? So I've one older brother,

4:42:28me younger brother younger sister. What's the game most likely to cause a fight if y'all are all playing? Oh definitely basketball. My little brother was a very big uh he was quite the referee during some of that stuff and he'd always get mad and like call penalties and yeah definitely I don't know. We played a lot of basketball. We also we had like our neighbor had like a football. It wasn't it was just like a their front yard was like kind of like curved. So we'd like play football on that every time and like you could throw the football over the house for like the deep balls and it was cool but yeah no. We played we were always outside growing up the whole time. Would you beat your little brother up? So it was kind of a thing where like he'd start ref it like and it would give me really mad and then like I'd like chase up to him and then he'd like kind of like be like what's that animal that like plays dead? Oh a possum? Yeah he'd be like a possum. He'd just lay down on the ground and then I kind of like get over him but like I would never actually do anything because like I don't know I didn't want to like actually hurt him and like have him go tell my mom

4:43:30or something. I mean like mind about hurting him. Yeah exactly but uh yeah so there was a lot of that going on. I'm sure he could tell you more but yeah. You you were academic all ACC last year. Yeah and you're in the business school. Yeah both those things are no joke. How do you manage your time to do all these things successfully? Hmm it's a good question. Um I don't really know you just kind of I feel like if you care about something you can make time I'm not sure I've always been like a very big math person my whole life and luckily for the business school here that was like the big criteria like you do the calculus and the stats and the e-con so that was kind of right at my alley. Uh not bad. Pass my yeah and then also having like good friends to be around like I'm sure you're on their willhardy and Connor are both in the business school with me too so like we kind of been on the same track our whole career which has been pretty cool and been nice to have like other people around you to help you get better and stuff so yeah. That sounds like a very

4:44:34intelligent household you guys have. Yeah you guys just like Friday night or Saturday night after the game everybody's like out and you're like guys look we got some e-con we needed to celebrate like normal with calculus. Yeah I guess so. Yeah what do you like to do outside of football? I've recently I've gotten into fishing a lot more which has been we uh my girlfriend has a beach house or they live at their act from Morehead City and so I went fishing with her dad and stuff and it was really fun. I don't know we're I like to do very spontaneous things all the time. I'm sure I can talk to y'all more about that later but I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Yeah we I don't know. Me, me, me, me, Connor will do a lot of interesting fun things. I don't know we played a lot of uh pickleball and that kind of stuff. I don't know we did like a

4:45:35whole scavenger hunt one time it was funny. I don't know do a lot of stuff like that but yeah. Fishing with the girlfriend's dad can be some pressure because like you want to do well but not too long. Yeah. How did you handle that? Um I it was kind of he's he was legit uh legit but he's lived his whole life. I was not legit. Um I caught like maybe two fish the whole time but it was fun. It was sometimes like the great thing about Fiji is kind of like more of like just being out there and like the peaceful vibe was almost better than actually catching sometimes so I thought that was pretty cool. You set up a scavenger hunt? Well I'm actually Connor and Will set it up and then he just like randomly like so like me and Connor were roommates. Will was not at the time and they just like randomly like put a note card outside my door and then me and Kade Law if y'all know who and uh we had yeah they just did a whole spontaneous scavenger hunt and yeah it was it was fun.

4:46:37It was very cool. It was like um yeah it was like six p.m. or seven p.m. and finished at like 10 p.m. but yeah there was so even in acting. Yeah yeah it was it was it was fun though. It was very very creative by Connor Will. So there has been a lot that has happened with this team this year both on the field and off the field. Yeah. How have you guys tried to manage all of that? I mean it's just it's a lot to happen to people. How have you guys tried to manage that maybe individually and together? Yeah I think it's definitely uh everybody handles it a lot different. I mean just a lot of different especially like obviously all this stuff with Tileek can be very tough. Um for me I just tried to keep focused on my goals and trying to individually work to get better like and focus even more on football and in school and stuff and uh I don't know for other people. I think I think that's kind of like the mindset of the whole team is just we want to move forward

4:47:38and in the right way and I think that biweek was very important for us to kind of like take a time out reset mentally and lock back in and I think that showed pretty well these past two weeks. You're talking about that first biweek. Yeah the first biweek. What's the best advice you got during that time? Um I think kind of just that like just focus on what's important and like not let the outside noise affect you too much and almost like just shut your ears off to the outside noise and just focus on the next thing ahead of you and Coach Montaquina talked a lot about um like you know you have like the high beams on your cars and like just turn the high beams off just focus on what's in front of you right there and yeah I think that was pretty good advice. He seems like a really good coach to me have you enjoyed working with him? No he's awesome he's awesome yeah what is what what does that relationship been like what what has been beneficial for you? Um what's been beneficial he's just the amount of knowledge he has is is pretty insane obviously he's in the NFL

4:48:40for a long time and coach some pretty good players um but just like being able to watch film with him and be able to look at different tells or he does a big like run cut up every week for what the team's main runs are obviously like this week we were playing like week fours and they do like the big mesh stuff and so I don't know just like little details that a lot of people don't tend to see that we can look closer as yeah he helps a lot with that. Um coach Brown has talked a lot about and this has been a heavy topic for a lot of you're particularly with the defensive life about rotating you guys in more so that the amount of snaps that everybody plays isn't as high at the end of the year so maybe instead of playing 70 plays early in the season somebody was playing 40 or whatever. Do you think that's been beneficial like can you tell a difference? Do you think your teammates and your fellow defensive lineman can tell a difference? Um I mean there's definitely a big difference I think last year I was averaging like 15 snaps if that a game and then now I'm

4:49:42these past few weeks I've been getting like 30 something so for me I mean I can't speak to the fact of like playing too much and then like your body hurting because that wasn't the case for me last year but I'm sure that like guys like came in and did probably feel that a lot more so being able to stay fresh is a big thing because like I don't know like say like you're playing the game for 60 plays and like they're like throwing the ball and you can't even put your best stuff on the film really because you're tired and your gas that doesn't really work well for anybody like so like playing more plays is not necessarily equal more production how it's uh defending that slumish feels like it would be tough yeah what's what's one or two things I can look for when I'm watching on Saturday that'll help me try to be able to figure out what they're doing. The thing Coach Collins talked about is just like penetrating like if you sit there just sit on the block and just let them do their thing it's gonna put the big bind on the guys in the back end and uh because like they have to play the run and the pass that whole time so for us just being able to penetrate and uh we

4:50:47have some really big strong defensive tackles so the quarterback will like step up really far when they're riding that match so for them to be able to get through the line and get in the quarterback's face and again like with him stepping up like getting your hands up was a big thing too but for us on the edge is just getting off the ball and trying to get to him as fast as we can that's a big thing putting the pressure on them versus letting them dictate us that's that's probably the biggest thing I'd say. All right three weeks left in the regular season. Yeah it feels it just feels like a different team I don't know how else to say it like what what in your mind is kind of the mindset of these last couple of weeks and what do you think will be important for you guys to continue to play well. Yeah mindset wise I don't know I think I think we're just starting to focus on like the little things even more and just completely buying into that and then um I don't know everybody is since since summer workouts we've always talked about uh like we break everything down on champions

4:51:50and like we want to be the best thing that we can be and I think now we're kind of like getting towards that point and just finishing this year like going three and oh in these last three weeks I don't I feel like that's very important to everybody and everybody's pretty bought into that. Like that's my like a vocal time I feel like I'm talking about this you know just recently talking about how what I want to do for the world is I want to bring that home energy the he brought right so last year of course I'm sure he's been doing for years but the year when I spent on him he brought a lot of energy the excitement and happiness in the room which is natural energy to where I really had to focus on me you know I didn't have to make sure other other guys are you know feels the type of way when it came in here because hump brought that now the hump's not here but I saw a winged it for the room I want to be that guy to make sure

4:52:50it's an optical practice everybody's high we're taking a built team one period you know it's a low day or something you know it's a disadvantage but like I want to make it feel like home so yeah Paris is a trick I want to bring that because that's what me and hump did with each other who hide each other I do like to probably walk or flip so I want to do that I want to bring that energy I want to make bring more guys you know to do that you know yeah I want to do that from day one you know I kind of I wanted to do that from day one I'm talking to him and obviously it's the time I spend the off season before I'm together he started just being in myself just thinking about what the room needs you know because I don't know I do rule as one of leaders you know my offense is that we need a guy like that is going to make sure the O-line is picked up ready to go every day I don't know how to kind of a little things don't happen to practice and people are saying anything and how I believe maybe different than somebody else maybe

4:53:55you know like to practice at least like to be positivity you know I mean so but he the energy yeah would be on just though hyper be on so it's kind of how the school on really my whole life I think I felt team captain like specifically and I felt I wasn't captain in high school wasn't captain in college but I'll make a joke cause high school so I feel like I'm not going to be captain like he's that I felt yeah but that would be awesome you know but you know that happens I'd be great but not either way I want to assume a role as a captain from the perspective of the guys on to be a visual word and get back in that way yeah I mean I can't say that I mean I guess the biggest thing is that I felt like how we used to in the past but it didn't take just the first day OTAs it took training left and right once this season ended because I know what

4:55:01was going to be true so I took a lot of reps just to get back to feeling like myself for day one OTAs and now hopefully but now like today specifically just changing some small things with my feet that is it talking about the long coach about some things I can do my feet to get to that to sell my nutritional angle that I love to sit on I thought I felt great already but I felt even better so I need more excites tomorrow now get on my feet back and how I like the right side and on the left side so I'm excited I mean obviously I feel like in the league whether I left the right they're still going in Premier guys obviously they're high expectations for the left and on tackle but definitely like the level of energy and like the expectation definitely take the human stuff because now can I apply side that's the as the tackle well you know so

4:56:04so yeah I would say in terms of communication as far as this even outside of facility you just stuff like that I'm really crazy but tackle quarterback bond even more off the field I think has been something that's even done cool I got a text one day I said hey you put it up I was like yeah I've been training both I've been training both you know I I asked after the season they're like honestly you know we'll talk to you so play the season and I just got a text on how do I have this with the free agency then so I was like you know what I had a host season right tackle so if I get the word I'm going I'm standing right tackle I'll just do what I did before I'm built on that but I saw I was trying to let tackle now as if we're going to be left tackle and I'd rather do that than train on right tackle with the club hey you know what I mean so I'm like let me just prepare an advance I'll get it you know I think occasionally on third down there

4:57:06be a lot of twists I was just not like it's automatic and I think that was my mindset for like the first half of the season like I didn't have to go once again with some products like oh gosh they did that I kind of figured like okay like this is this is the type of rush man again this is how this guy usually rushes if I get the vibe this type of ends like the rush you know tackles that first year guys you got the primary patch on already you know what it was going to be already you know will be every stud and honestly just knowing that's kind of an advantage to so you're not you're not you're not oh the brother twist on my side again it was never air top like that come out the hot like three plays in a row and two minutes I do that it wasn't going so you know what I mean I'm watching more everybody else and he rarely really goes out there occasionally third down I was like he's gonna take me you know what I mean so that effect it's kind of it's also kind of an original way but it's also exciting like okay I'm gonna get the hardest look you know so the

4:58:09real real reps you know the day so really out on our way to kind of process that I was like had when I told me let me know about I'm just gonna train it I was training all that so TAs I guess if I didn't hear anything about TAs I came in like so you know what I mean because just like I'm cool training both continue I would have been cool training both continually but I feel like anybody any position will feel like okay like you want as soon as possible give your feet kind of settled in your hips settled in your hands so then certain kind of that would have been harder to work both there you know but they're definitely but in terms of the development it's definitely a lot faster to stay on all one side but I think having that the weeks that we had to transition with the seasons over and like respond you know good trying to get up

4:59:11put up my foot I mean week things out of town right now but when it comes back I'm gonna show me my house I just got a house not too far from so I told him I got that house like I got a yellow side DJ you know what I mean so yeah track you know it's actually like you can you know catch his feet under him you know I always think when you're in a rookie season you're going from bowl game I don't know Wisconsin play the bowl game sorry Wisconsin I don't know but you know personally I just think when you go from bowl game to training for the combine to you know rookie minicamps OTA's the you know many can I mean to train the camp the regular season you really don't get a time to really catch yourself you know you understand to play book now you can be more vocal you know I think with my absence the other guys have since you know you need guys like that to step up and be ready for those opportunities yeah the surgery you have yeah same you have

5:00:15during the season you just tighten down everything you know my left side because I was over compensating a little bit but you know it was it wasn't anything that's lingers you know I'll say this a groin is not like an ACO it's not like anything's ever going to get back to it again you know you know feeling good able to do everything squat and heavy with power and speed so you know it feels good to get after you know I think there's what the team was able to accomplish your soft feet in terms of bringing guys like wrestling and things like that you know I think they're all good acquisitions but you know you never want to be known as a paper champ so can't win the off season I think the work gets done out here on the field gets done in the classroom it gets done training you know and then you see where you're at in training camp and then you've built on that you know I think we got the right guys in the building it's just about putting a

5:01:15completely month ago can't have technical reason to separate the business part of the game the actual football team you know you always want to you always have to treat it like a business because you know one day it's going to end and that's been a job it's not like in college where you got four years guarantee well now you don't even know what that I know it's crap and we'll transfer portal portal but you know you have to I still have love for this game and I still work my tail off and I still put everything into it and that's not going to change but you have to know what you bring to the team and what you're what you value is. Can't be able to be out there with your teammates today emotionally. Great you know we got a new training staff and still learning the warm up a little different but you know I loved it you know just getting after it

5:02:16learning new guys going through the same drills I've been doing by myself I actually like having more people around because like kind of go stir crazy crazy when it's just you and another guy you're like damn I gotta go back up for another rep already and so you know it's nice to be up here and get a chance you know it was my godson. Can we confident we'll get down to the term motion? Oh I'm gonna try to remain pretty neutral because I want to be to either way all I know is I want to be here but we'll see what happens. It's my last year here. I've had a great career here but I look forward to playing next year. What that second surgery you said at this time was on the left side was the first time around on the right side. Right side during the season left side and that was just tightened down my core muscle. It wasn't the same as my ad doctor you know you

5:03:18can ask Dr. Bradley Dr. Zuckerbron who did the surgery as well you know if anything it's going to help me and you know make me a lot stronger from here on up. You said you were training with another guy who have you? Tyson I've been training with him for the last eight years we've always trained together we got a trainer up north shout out Cole Haley he's my guy trained trained trained a Heath Miller, Brent Keesle, multitude of guys that I'll respect and we've just been getting after. Can it be very cute guys historically 35 they paid big contracts and who that's held against you? I think there's not a lot of history behind it but you know for me I look at I'm not looking to be like anybody else you know my game is different from everybody else and this league you know I like to think you know I can play the run in the past and that's where I'm different you know I remember last year my team just brought to my attention you know the thing that's

5:04:22really cool is you watch powerlusters and you know my games build on power and technique and those guys go into their 40s and so you know that's what kind of research I'm doing the highnessings but you know I will see what happens there's not a lot of history but I'm here to make history and I'm here to you know I want to know there's a reward here and you know have a great season. Do you have a set goal for yourself or how many years you want to play in the NFL or do you just take things here right here? You know it was it was top answering that question right after the season I will say this guys I can't keep answering that question right after the season that is not fair to the season that's not fair to my family you know but in my mind I got three years and I want to maximize them I want to play at a high level and I want to go deep into playoffs and you know we got a good team and I'm going to do my part to be ready for all those situations. You've planned on practicing when you be a portable trophy it's a possibility that you might

5:05:26fold in and of course the issue is I have not even thought that far and I'm taking the day by day you know I told my agent and we talked about it and we were cool coming out here you know I'll be here for many and then I'll be there for training. I don't know what the work entails but when we get there we'll cross that bridge. Why would you work for a minute steel? You know there was a conversation between me Omar and my team and there's certain guys are one helmet guys you know and I want to be one of those one helmet guys and you know there's a hunger and desire there but that doesn't mean just hanging it up and calling a career to me I think I got more bullets to fire and I'm excited to do that. What's the movie? The last one? The new in Russell Wilson are going to be out there with what's paid men of the year?

5:06:29I saw Russ as I'm social media but I have been out of the chance to see it. I like the surprise happens when it happens but it's cool to have another what's paid in many year winner. I think it's an honor to be there and I'll say one thing I won't be here I'm just telling you guys so it's not a big deal. I won't be here because I have to do a water paid man of the year thing on Thursday so it's not like I'm skipping. But you know it's an honor to be with Russ and you know it's an honor of doing things in the community doing great work and you know the cool thing is as much as we get honored and nominated for these things the work doesn't stop and I can see that with Russ this foundation you know we had an event for our foundation and my mom was quick to you know tell Russ hey we need the partners somehow and I was like mom let's just enjoy the event

5:07:32but you know it's it's really cool to you know be a part of a league group. All right thank you thank you. I appreciate the time since you guys are both dark or we're finally some wondering do you have a relationship or no jade at all and what are your thoughts on his game? He's a tremendous player he's played really well this year watching his film he's made a lot of plays and they do a really good job on their defense but I don't I don't know a person. Thank you. Our next question is going to come from Donovan Bridgeport. Donovan go ahead. I think he went through his question we will go to Kurt Bowles. Hey Caleb I'm just going to ask you about the Michigan thing Texas obviously went up there to Ann Arbor and beat him and and you all had your issues with him. You put his stock in head or was that Texas Michigan game just so long ago it doesn't doesn't matter at all. I mean at

5:08:34this point in the season it's one to go home so really whatever happens in the past doesn't have any stock or anything doesn't mean anything so we're we have to play on Friday and that's really all that matters. We're going to take two more from zoom before turning it back our first one's going to come from Stephen from Cleveland.com go ahead. It's the fun I'm sorry. Hey Caleb we've seen you were talking about the Ohio State Office the success that they've had obviously Jeremiah has been a big part of that. What's it been like this year going against him in practice and you know after doing that there's a surprise at all to see him having a success he's had as a freshman? No it doesn't bring surprises it was pretty pretty easy to see the talent that he has and the blessings that God has put on his plate but it's always a it's always a challenge going against Jeremiah and the other receivers and Mecca and Karnelen practice and even guys like Brandon and his impression Rogers they they do a great job bringing looks for the defense and create a lot of obstacles.

5:09:37I'll find a question from zoom is going to come from Dan Hope. Go ahead Dan. Hey look you Quinn had a lot of success against you guys when you played him at Alabama last year just what do you remember from going up against him last year and what can you learn from that game? Really smart quarterback knows how to operate their offense. Push the ball in the right places and then of course Archeason does a great job putting him in position to win. All right back to you. Yep thank you Rob Aller Columbus this match Caleb GT and Jack land opposite sides are they as opposite off the field as they are on in terms of personality and just the people that they are? They're offices but they also like one of the closest people I know they spend a lot of time together. They've come from different sizes of the country so they're different people for sure but they're both really great people are really great men. I'm sorry I respect both of them. You have the personality. How did you do that?

5:10:41Um I'm not going to do that I'm sorry I'm not going to do that. It's about to ask the war and podcast throughout the throughout the season we would always see you on Wednesday nights you and Nathan would be some of the last people off the field. For the things that you're working on after a practice always the same is it a routine? What are the things that you're hoping to get out of those extra moments after practice? So routine pretty much the the keys that we need to go into the game with and then also changes week to week on based on what our jobs are going to put us into doing. So every week we go through the same things and then we add certain things that we do for the what the team that we play is going to ask us to accommodate. Bill we've been on this full-on this match. Yeah I already got one okay Joey Goughlin club is this bad. Kelvin one takes us to play action and they can use action to prepare but what's what do they do well in those spots and what's the key for you guys

5:11:42in those moments with Quinn? They do a really good job with I candy and it creates a lot of challenges for defense in order to see if it's runner pass and to see um because that's when they're going to take their shots too as well so really just having great eye discipline seeing the line is seeing what is telling us so that's what it does. Keep right Nick Walker Letterman role. Hey look you guys had a pretty good game plan for Tyler Warren when you guys played him you guys have another Texas has a good side in and Gunnar Hound what do you guys kind of have to do to limit him and how do you think about his game? He's a really good player he makes a lot of plays and he's has a lot of receiving yards this year so really just do the same thing we've done all year just be disciplined in our responsibilities and if you're on them you got to make a play when it comes. Right one of the mandra billets uh playman dot com when you think their receivers is kind of a whole you know they spread ball around a sense of what stands out about you know the way they can spread ball around those different guys. A lot of really good athletes um I play with Isaiah

5:12:47Bond Lasser who's a really great receiver a lot of speed um and then all their receivers have made a lot of plays so I mean everybody has to be on that peasy queue as if we're going to stop them and have a do a really good job. Front row here Tim May Letterman role? Yeah Kale's but you moved up here and I don't have to get to tell you when you moved basically a year ago and stuff it was a little bit of a leap of faith because you know you know how many athletes are on this team get athletes to stuff but why didn't you really feel this defense come into its own and then then pass that man watching in the Rose Bowl you you recognition of what was coming seem to be on point did it feel like that I mean you personally um I think the defenses played really well throughout the season uh I think we've had games where we played better and games where we haven't put it all together but I think that's how all defenses are um so I can't say there's a certain moment where I think we put it together um but was it second party question you sing really on point uh against Oregon about

5:13:53recognizing what was what was coming I mean you were really active out there directing and things like that did it feel like that I guess uh I feel like as Luke said earlier the preparation that we put in goes into that and just feeling comfortable and what we're doing comfortable and what we're seeing with the other teams I feel like that's uh that allows us to play fast and can uh me and latent to communicate to everybody else do I miss anyone's questions here Steve how long and 24 seven sports yeah Caleb but you came to Ohio State to play for national championship and there were a lot of ups and downs throughout the season just to be in this position the last four teams still alive just you feel validated by that and did you always have faith that this is how it was going to go to turn out uh I came to Ohio State to become a better player and to help the team be as good as it can be not to win a national championship not like that wasn't the only go for me coming here uh really just wanted to be in the team and be my be with the brotherhood um but

5:14:53it's a it's a great feeling being in the final four and being with the team and everything that comes with that but it's a blessing to be here and one final question Bill Reben went to club this back yeah I did want to follow up when I talked to you at that time again you said when they scored their first and second touchdown you were really hot on the sidelines what was what was your message to the team and you know that's a good offense they're going to score against most of you so why were you so hot really just because we didn't execute which left them score so we've done that a lot which is something we can't do in these big games and these games where it's winter go home so we got to make the plays when they come and you got our competitive excellence coach Dases make the play where your numbers call hey everybody oh it's been good a lot of learn obviously just trying to adjust everybody just in this game and see where you fit in that but it's been good hey that's good at the game game action first time since playing in a bowl game how'd you feel

5:15:57I felt good good good way to get your feet wet especially do it close to home here they're special to me so it was good I'm glad I glad to happen that way yeah had a bunch of family there I got to see a bunch of people so yeah good that's really more well it's been good I mean just trying to just a different way of play different terminology different it's a whole different scheme so just learn how they want things done compared to how you used to do how you used to do things is really the right yeah no it's a great room a lot of really good guys I've grown really close with a lot of those guys so everybody helps each other a really nice learner from Dalton bread on those guys I mean Dalton's done it for a really long time so he helps me a lot with things that really aren't coachable things you know I mean I mentioned how the family is the game but what about working out here at this high school you're still in Ohio yeah yeah yeah I want the Lexington Hut about their eighth of the size of this place

5:17:06yeah this is not like my high school but this is a healthy place but super cool to be home and just be back and give you a little sense of comfort I guess for me especially being my wafer as long as I've been I don't get I don't go out of the hole I actually went home yesterday I went back to the farm for a little bit which was great for a couple days he did my family and stuff and see my grandparents and everything so it was good but I really haven't been out enough to know so I try and keep her inside yeah it's a good question I don't think that's for for me I'm just trying to give I mean every so I think you can be as you can play this game for 50 years and there's always going to be something you leave the field with like God I wish I would have been better in that area I wish it would have been better in some other you know what I mean like it's never going to be this is absolutely perfect so like to me that's right right now the hardest

5:18:06part of this is just mental toughness of it all I mean physical toughness I mean you either have out your don't my opinion so I mean I've always felt like I was kind of bred in that area with things and that's just kind of way happens naturally so just play that's kind of how we roll I'll say good good thank you guys no we gotta get you on the button it was just different man I could feel the difference out here when I run that 225 I feel like I'm running like the flash right now so yeah my speed I definitely feel quicker and more explosive just you know get out the ball and you know just continually working on my short area first as flinkly as possible so do you want any expectations this room oh you guys got that right you know what I thought about the room is that we don't always be a brotherhood and always be at one and all the time so what's been your experience so far here and versus the expectation obviously coming in there's an opportunity to play early really a lot of opportunities play a lot that how have you seen this place change you and has it been what you expected uh been off the charts like just you know they developed me like from day one like just they are stepped

5:19:09on campus we know work battles we talked about my even habits where I need to get to my body weight what I need to improve on till you know development to NSL running back and have an opportunity you know to get to that level um and just don't invest it into me as much as possible like they and they are invest a lot you know does it surprise you I mean West Virginia is a powerful school very very the program do you see the difference quickly when you're getting a real place like last day uh definitely the resources around Ohio State you know it's definitely uh you know have a we have a larger uh frame the resources around here so that's definitely one of the biggest things that I can say that's different than you know my free version C.J. when you were when it's back in December before you even started talking to Ohio State what but maybe you want to know what the portal and the risk is are you going to approach the changes that primarily the randomness it was it was aligned to you know you have to think about your family you and like what do you want to get out of this this is my last opportunity you know guarantee opportunity to have a chance to play football because the next level is not promised you have to

5:20:12as you say earn that so I just you know I'm just took a chance of myself you know you got better with certain all times did you have any previous relationship with the club now at all what what kind of sit out from your personal questions he said he's gonna challenge me and help me develop into a great man and he didn't talk too much about football we talked more of these personal life things did it just to help to have seen like when Sean come in last year as a transfer I've succinct back right away like this is that something you would definitely uh you know I watch a cute game um you know because he was that Ole Miss when I kind of jumped on the scene to the West of Dean so I definitely like analyze the game a lot and you know him just being with those law high to see it I won't say a big difference but you can see the little intensibles that he added on to him to help his game you know develop in uh in that way to you know now I have an opportunity to be a high jacktrick and then I say I just lost this track at 230 miles up and it's a 230 eight he says you like you 230 what why is that 226 actually why why did you want to do

5:21:12some weight what do you want to do he want to meet uh you know be more explosive and uh you know have a more short area of burst uh that's something that I like in my game and he can tell me the work on that game there's a lot like how is it now uh that's amazing you know he's gonna coach you hard but he loves it and he does it because he's like you know he loves all of it like you go coach hard he go push you and go hold your accountable but he does that because he loves us what are you doing as this overall and how you've been activating into the program and I'm going amazing I got one of my great friends right here you know he kind of like you know that's big bro you kind of like uh you know take me under his name uh tell me the things to do with nothing you know because he was transferred just like me too so he tells me like they don't do that uh we don't do that here do this and do that here so you know just you know the family know that I got other guys in a team who I pre-souped against like Jeremiah Smith Brandon and his Kiyada so I kind of was like familiar with like a couple thousand team and they kind of burned me along as uh as I was uh transitioned to the program he's the father uh we're we're just a little thank you he did to get this 226 did you realize that you work out on what some of the changes that

5:22:17you made they get the last 20 years less than 20 uh the dietrition she uh helped me schedule out a meal planning uh the times I need to eat what I need to eat what I need to stay away from what time I need to go to bed and stay on a routine that allows me to you know to change my job is quickly and as I should not say this as quickly and as the like the right way possibly yes it's like to sit it down and make it like you know still working with it as so I can be a effective runner-back changing your diet like different foods yeah uh Jane Fick was um you know he's great competitor um when I first got here in the winter uh he pushed me band and day out uh I still remember this uh who was doing sleds and you know was kicking my butt uh day in the air but you know it just helped me you know improve my game and step up as a parent you see gee once question what was he chasing you

5:23:19uh you know just the style of the honestly you know we we have more balance you know we um more like the NFL same as you would say uh we do as uh our personal seconded in these him to the best of their radius so