Press Conferences (Devin Sanchez) 3 Elite Edition September 2

0:00And stuff like that. So, is this making myself better and, you know, correcting those things? When was this, is this? At the standpoint, they're making this late. Obviously, physically, you've got the talent. So, how much of a mental leak has it been psychologically really, or be corrected in my life? It's been a good mental thing, you know, having to get myself ready to go against guys that are, you know, 2020, you know, being 18, you know, that they don't care about that up here. So, you know, it's developing yourself to have a great mindset early, you know, having that grown man mindset at 18 years old. It's really important because a lot of people don't really care about feelings. So, it's about, you know, just coming up here, you know, being a man that you think you are, you know, having to go out there and, you know, prove it. David, what's been the easiest thing and the most difficult thing about your transition years so far? The easiest thing, I would say, I mean, it's really not that easy about this. You know, coming to a top program like this, you know, especially coming off from national championship, it's really not that easy. You know, they're pushing for the same thing and they trying to go back and back.

1:01So, I mean, we just got to come up here, we got to step up. But the hardest thing I would say, you know, just having to grow up, you know, going from high school where, you know, I've been the man there for three years. So, I mean, coming up here where you started the bottom again. So, I mean, I told my parents this all the time, like, you know, I think my history is repeating itself. Because when I went into high school, the high school I went to her a powerhouse. So, I was at the bottom there and had to work my way up. And I feel like that's just repeating itself here. And I met the bottom here, you know, I put myself at the bottom. So, I have to work my way up to the top. And so, you know, just going to get these guys, they're competing every day. You're not going to get a day off where, you know, she was just coming out here just, just, just, he is. And so, I mean, you got to be on your piece and keep it all the time. When you see what a guy like Jay, sorry, David King's good. When you see what a guy like Jay did last year coming in here playing immediately, does that inspire you to want to be able to do the same thing as a freshman? I mean, definitely, you know, just what he did last year is a true freshman. You know, him being able to play an impact team like that.

2:02Obviously, I want that for myself. So, you know, I'm going to push myself to that limit, you know, try to be on the field here when that's my plan. That's the biggest reason I came here because I have an opportunity to play here when. So, me having that opportunity is good. And, you know, I'm always going to come out here and compete. Like I said, I'm putting myself at the bottom. So, I'm working, I'm going to work every day like I'm at the bottom and I got to get to the top. How, what do you feel like it's going to take for you to get from the bottom to the top? You know, just discipline. They're big on discipline here and, you know, competitive and excellent. So, it's just staying consistent every day, just doing the rights, having little to none mental errors. That's going to give me a lot of feel. And, you know, I do what I'm supposed to do. That's going to give me a lot of feel. Along those lines, how do you manage those expectations for people to think that you should be playing week one? What is season comes around? How do you manage people basically? You know, I don't really let it get to my head because, you know, like I'm here, you know, I got dudes in the room that are, you know, like IGB, you know, he's going to be a three-year star. I got your main, a person from all American, you know, he's going to play this year too.

3:04So, I can't let what people say on the net, you know, get to me because, you know, anybody can say, oh, he's going to play this year, but you know, I actually got to prove it. So, I just got to come out here, you know, work, you know, and then spot it. What's the most important thing you've learned so far in your three months here? Um, competing every day. Uh, that's the biggest thing. Uh, having to compete, you know, these guys are a pair. They take winning and losing to heart. So, you know, my first, my first week up here when we did our competition, you know, I was winning, did I ask you, I got that first loss on my belt and, you know, it kind of opened my eyes, like these guys take it to heart when they lose, they don't like it. So, you know, I kind of got that now where I don't like losing. You had the opportunity to be around the team for that, you know, CFP Ron. What did you learn from Justbosthubee seeing this team make that run? Uh, you know, being real tight with your brothers, you know, they're real tight. Uh, you know, they, they push each other, you know, it's a real brotherhood. Uh, they don't let nobody down. They always got each other back. So, I mean, it's a new team now. So, you know, we got to build that chemistry with each other, you know, just, just get tight.

4:08And I feel like when I was there for that playoff running and I practiced, um, when they were at the National Championship, you know, I just got to watch, you know, how guys are, you know, real locked in. Uh, they're close with each other. They're not letting nobody slack off. And, you know, I feel like we had the opportunity to do that with just enough. How did you handle Luke? Uh, you handle that first loss? Uh, that first loss, you know, it kind of got to me. It was, it was the IGB, you know, he, you know, he, he let me here. So, after that loss, I was like, now I can't let this happen. Cause it's like, now it's not high school where you used 17, 16 years old. And if you lose, you lose appearance. No, if you lose the coach and see that. So, and they go see how you respond to it. So, I feel like I had to, you know, open my eyes, I had to go, go in there and lock them like, yeah, I can't let this happen. I'm where, you know, so I got to go up and, you know, these guys are counting on me too. So, it's, it's really important that I don't lose. If you hadn't described yourself as a competitor, how would you do that? Uh, I'm a, I'm a great competitor, you know, I like winning. Uh, who doesn't like winning? So, I mean, winning is, is in my blood, you know, my parents taught me that, uh, at a young age,

5:08you know, going after a competing for anything that you want. And I feel like if you can go after a compete for, you know, as yours. And if you compete for it all the time, who don't take it from me? So, I mean, I'm a good competitor. I'm always gonna go after that, try to take what's mine. If it's out there, then anybody that can have it, and I'm gonna be the one that's gonna get it. There's some role markers in your room, obviously. You would talk to her, what would you turn that for? Uh, yeah, I mean, it could come out on, you know, but I don't really, I really don't like game through the talking. Uh, for, for this part, um, but, you know, if it gets there, it gets to that point where, yeah, I can bring it out. Cause, you know, regardless, I'm not just gonna let nobody just come out here and just, you know, catch balls on me. So, if I'm having a good day when I'm consistently getting P.B.U.s, yeah, I'm gonna talk. Uh, but, you know, being in that room, you kind of got to talk, you know, the Jermaine, you got IGB, you know, those, those, those, really talk is in that room. So, it kind of, it kind of makes you want to bring it out. And, you know, when we bring that out, they just bring it to energy out of the whole defense. And when you got the whole defense clicking, I mean, you can see, you can see what happened. Is there anyone that's kind of, what competition you're at with? Uh, it was during the winter, we were doing, you know, just, just stuff on the field.

6:11We was just, just, just having the time of the field, just a lot of competitions. So, I mean, he just kind of, it was a day where, you know, they had us going up against just the freshmen. And then they kind of threw us in there and fired against the older guys. So, we had to, you know, we had to wake up and, you know, we, we all kind of lost. And it all kind of like, we all kind of came to get that professional group like, what are we gonna do about this? Cause, you know, some of their kind of nice to, to step up in those roads. Yeah, definitely, welcome to college. Yeah, definitely, definitely, definitely my work in college moments. You know, you know, just, just showing that, you know, it's real now, a metal high-oh-state. Uh, I'm not in Houston, Texas, I'm more in my school. Uh, I'm far from my family. Uh, you know, I got to wake up, I got to grow. I got to mature fast. And, you know, I just got to get ready for the next level. You've mentioned high school a couple times. How did, you know, growing up very in Texas, playing at that level. How do you feel like that helped you prepare a real high-state? Uh, I feel like you prepared good, you know, I feel like I went to a powerhouse in Texas. We obviously ran the Houston area, you know, we've been running the Houston area for a long time now. And I feel like, you know, we're a real college program. Uh, we live just like these guys who do the same this.

7:12Uh, you know, the level of ball I play, the highest level ball in the Texas 6A. Uh, you know, we're going against guys like Dunkin' Bill, no crowded. Those top schools, you know, receiving the coin more I go against. And I want to get some three times in my career. So I mean, those, those that really prepared me for this level, you know, coming in like, okay, this is not where it's a little school where, oh, they don't believe that I can come here and make an impact. I came from big schools, so they're counting on me to make an impact. Cause, you know, I think, I mean, everybody would say Texas is one of the highest, highest player balls in the country, you know, they go as floored in the probably Georgia. So I mean, they're counting on me to be ready and that level of ball prepared me real, real well. How'd you do against DeCory? Uh, you know, it was, it was when, when lose, when lose. Uh, you know, I went some, he lose some. Uh, so I mean, it's, it's, it's just, it's just getting better on shot when I iron. Cause, you know, he's the top receiver, obviously in our class. Uh, you know, I feel like he's going to have a good impact at working. Uh, so I mean, it's just, it's just, it's just, uh, just seeing what's going to happen next.

8:13Looking forward to seeing him again. Yeah, definitely, definitely. I, and you know, I plan on planning against him. Uh, we don't, we won't see them this year. Hopefully we see them in the big team championships. So, you know, I, I want, uh, I want that rematch. DeVa, you committed super early in the process six months after that. You shut things down when, quite frankly, someone of your caliber didn't have to do that. You could have, you've seen kids play the game a little bit longer than that. But you chose to not do that. Just kind of lock it in here. Why? Uh, you know, cause this was, this was, this was where I felt, this was home. Uh, you know, I didn't really feel like, you know, standing, chasing was a good thing for me. Uh, I didn't, I didn't feel like that was home for me. Uh, up here, I just felt like it was home. Uh, you know, because of all, because they, you know, they're making it, you know, making me feel important up here. And then, you know, like you could ask, cause what, uh, how many times I came up here, uh, throughout my high school career, I came up here for 13 times. So, it got to the point where I was knowing the guys on the team. I had the numbers just like that. When I come up here, you know, I don't got to always build the coaches. I can go chill with some of the guys on the team. So, it's just, just me, you know, knowing what I want to put in my college ball at, you know,

9:15knowing where I felt, uh, like it was home and then, you know, it was also my parents too, you know, my mom being, you know, feeling safe that, you know, I'm up here, you know, I'm handling the business and not having to worry about me when she goes to sleep. Team meeting has said how, um, there's a number of helmets that are better than other helmets right now. So, uh, I just wanted to check those out and see what they are. Is this how much you get any more severe than the others you had? No, and that's one of the other things. I mean, I'm not going to give a whole seminar on the concussions over here. But, uh, no, it's not necessarily more severe. Each concussion, like just what I learned, each concussion is its own specific concussion. And, um, you gotta give that time the heel and then once that's heeled and ready to go, once you get back out here, you're good. So, it's not like concussions are building on top of each other. Like, if you give it time and heel, but I think like before, when guys were getting trouble with the long time, it goes like, they get a concussion, not fully healed and they go right back out there and playing. Does it look like a catch and see a side or maybe part of it? Can you just reflect on how you've grown since showing up here in fairly 21 and did it play a first and a third?

10:15Yeah, I've been here for a little while now. I've been enjoying every second of it. I always came in trying to be a captain and trying to lead these guys as best as I can. And, um, I definitely feel that I've grown vocally and, uh, just, um, just trying to help build the team up and build myself up. So, um, just trying to do anything I can to help this team. How about, um, in a concussion situation like this? You're so close to reminding your brother, do you have to sort of involve the family's decision behind that go? Yeah, definitely. They came down with me. So, when I was, I had, um, like, when the team was here doing meetings, I was driving up to a Pittsburgh meeting with the concussion specialist and everything. And, uh, they were with me and, uh, just easing their mind. That's the biggest thing. easing their mind. They're all, they're worried and everything, but, uh, they'll be okay. They'll be good. So, you can decide to play with the Elijah Mahler and your head and the driver. Say it again. We saw the player practice. Yeah. Did you think you'd be up for two weeks after that? Uh, I mean, I was good pretty much. It was that day that I was kind of had a headache and everything, but I was pretty much good after that.

11:16But it was just about going through the protocol and, I mean, there was no rush back. We weren't playing, uh, regular season game. So, I mean, I was just really good in the time of the year. It wasn't any rush. You both is wearing a already packed and still had, uh, you know, a helmet to helmet. Uh, just from your perspective, I actually be an expert. But are those doing what, um, they're intended to do? You know, you gotta take, you can wear it when he got to, you know, I'm saying like, guys are still getting concussions and getting, um, wearing. Yeah, it's definitely still a physical sport. So, I mean, concussion happened regardless. I know if you were in a guardian cap or not. Um, I think it could be looked at too. I know and just talked about it on the guardian cap. I don't think in the back that is as much padding as, I would like, but, um, I feel it could be looked at, but I think you get a concussion, whether you were in a guardian cap or not. So, I mean, stuff happens. This is a physical game. Sorry. Just to clarify this, you said you're going to get any helmet. Mm-hmm. Also, wear the guardian cap during the game. No, I'm not going to.

12:17You feel good about this game helmet that you've been wearing. Yeah. Yeah. What's the name of the game in the brand of helmet? Like any details you have? Oh, I'm not sure the brand of name yet. I'll have to get it from those guys inside. Um, you guys will definitely be seeing this on the... And how do you feel about not playing in a pre-season game? You have to say as your career, where it's not a big deal. Um, I want to say it's not a big deal, but I don't feel any pressure any, like, oh, I just needed to play in a pre-season game. I feel that's a great opportunity for the younger guys to get out there and showcase what they're able to do. Well, I still been practicing and playing and working out and getting ready for the season. So, I mean, I know the game. I'm looking forward to that first game. And, um, yeah, I'm not really concerned about not being able to get a snap of the pre-season game. I think about MJ did film it, particularly during the joint practice against Jefferson. Yeah, MJ is the number one corner. I mean, you guys see it. He's gonna be big for this year. And I think that's what's special about this team. We got three number one corners myself, MJ and Greg. I thought we all number ones, and we able to do different things out there on the field.

13:20And, uh, one guy's out, another guy can step in and not lose track or not lose pace on what we got going on. MJ, how do you see how the team can grow as a leader in the early of the year? And he's trying to pick it on this world as a guy that's bringing energy and also trying to bring it along. Yeah, definitely. Like you said, bring it in. That's exactly bringing energy, bringing guys along. MJ is real vocal out there. And he competes as he's in competitor out there and just working hard and trying to be the best. He got the mindset of wanting to be the best and he is. So, we just go out there and compete with one another. I'm so happy to see CD Lam get his contract signed and be ready to go out there and play this game and face the bad guy. No, I'm definitely happy for him. That's like changing contract and everything for him and his family. So, definitely happy for him. I'm looking forward to going and having that match up in the game. I always love going against the number one guys and best guys on that team. So, I'll be looking forward to it. It turns out we got more to history, because concussions that we're talking about. When you suffer the latest one, people who cover the team and fans are wondering and out loud in the discussion.

14:28Could you contemplate retiring? Every go through your mind or do you immediately know that you're going to come back? Yeah, like I said, this is a game I love. I love playing this game, being with the guys out here. I really don't see myself doing too much other stuff. Unless I'm just really physically unable to play this game. I don't see myself stepping away from football no time soon. Like I said before, I can't take it easy on these receivers out here. So, me being out here, I got to give them a good look and just go out there and play. But I answered your question. I haven't seen myself walking away though. Are you actually out of protocol now? Yes. Hey, did you know, Greg Culld Miles hardened the steal the drafts? What have you seen? Say it again. Sorry, Greg Culld Miles hardened the steal the drafts. When have you seen from any other camp? And what kind of exciting about him? Miles, he's been balling. He's been showing out, making plays against the Vikings. And just making plays out here. So, it was big for him to make the team. I was happy for him. We all congratulated him. And he's going to be a big piece on our team, coming going forward.

15:28Dins of off another rookie, you mentioned making the receivers better. How have you made, Jamari talked about how you've helped him as a rookie. What have you seen out of him in his development? Yeah, he's been looking good since he came in. He's been getting better and better. He's night and day from once he came in, so where he's at now, I believe. I think that's just his competitive nature and what he's been doing out there in practice. And us going against one another out there. So, he's been good and he's going to be a big piece as well to our offense. What's the tip to the last one? What sort of tip do you give receivers? How can you help a receiver? Yeah, I mean, it's a constant communication. If I were to win on a red, they may come and ask me what it is that you've seen on that play that you're able to get in position. And I'll tell them that. And they may ask them a question. So, it's just that constant communication on how we can get each other better. Are you excited? Thank you guys. Thank you. Thank you. Glad to be back. Glad to be back. I just... I just... I just... I just...

16:28I just... I just... I just... I just... I just... I just... I just... I just... I just... I'm just getting prepared for the game, but learning the culture of Ice 분들. So, Coach, they ask all the seniors before we came in. They asked us if we were OK for us to come with a playoffs with them for the next match, They wanted us to experience that for the next time we're in the playoffs. So, we can see that I think that's helped tremendously. I think I made this mature just being around those guys and knowing what to do we do get to that place. Or were the ways that you've already seen that playoffs. I definitely can say, just maturity-wise, especially from this class, I think we all just came in a little bit maybe immature. definitely growing throughout that process. Just see the way a guy like Dott of Inject and stepped up for a high state last year. How inspiring was that for you? It's very inspiring. Me and Dany were pretty close, like they talked to him a lot. So you know, just seeing him move from guard to tackle and just make such a huge jump in that little time was just really cool to watch. Carter, especially the three primary coaches

17:29you're working on, do they all speak the same language? If you follow my drill, I mean, who do you listen to most, I guess, in those kind of situations? You know, they're all from different places. So at first, I think it was a little hard for them to mention the one that would linger. But now they've got it down packed. They're all at the same exact thing. So that's been helping a lot. I mean, obviously they can explain stuff a little different if you'd like them to. But they've been doing a good job of keeping everything together. It could take in particular. What's he brought to you? What are some tidbits or things he's brought that opened your eyes a little bit? Just let the little older play stock and say he's not like too fancy on all the technique stuff. So I like just how straightforward he is with all the technique stuff for sure. Just very straightforward. I know you know Luke pretty well, both and from Toledo. How have you just seen Luke Bro here so far going into this year? I think I've been watching him for a while. I haven't known him like you said. But I've just seen him grow as a leader. It's been really cool. Just seeing him a while back. I think I was a software he was seeing you. We always played against each other. But seeing him move into that leader role has been really cool to see. What kind of leadership is he bringing to that unit right now?

18:29Just always talking to the younger guys, then encouraging us, you know, tell us what we need to do. And not only the younger guys, but the other guys just encourage us as a whole. And what does his story mean to you? I mean, obviously this time a year ago, he wasn't even sure where he was going to fit in or whatever. Now, I'm suddenly, especially through the playoffs, he was a force. I mean, what does it just tell you about perseverance, but also a season? I think it really is just never give up. I mean, obviously you might not start the first game. Maybe not even the second game, but you can always make an impact if you really, if that's your desire. Yeah. We've been meeting on, so that's a couple of weeks players on team. Nice start. I've been teaching the ropes. I've kind of teached him. I've been training to move all the offensive lines. I would say Austin and Luke a lot. You know, I talked to them for your offense, especially about technique stuff. Austin's been playing a little different places. So he's been helping me a lot of my small technique things. Just what to do for sure. Is it just small stuff that is a big adjustment from playing top ball? Is that really what kind of thing you have to make for us? Yeah, it's definitely the smaller stuff. There's like, you know, hand protection stuff like that.

19:30Nothing to address it. So it's been good. The trade just hasn't been too crazy. What are exactly what positions have you been repiting? Only a left tackle. Yeah, so far. You feel pretty comfortable there. I feel very comfortable. Yes. These are grown men you're going against. Kinyata and Kaden are like 22, 23 years old. Yeah, yeah. Obviously, that's a lot different than the high school you're playing. What? 16, 17, most 18. So it hasn't been a lot different. The first co-practice were my best. I've definitely adjusted a pretty well this spring. Part of the question. Part of the IASJ Monts Concentrate. You guys obviously pushed my list very close. He came up to lead a handful of time. And all the time he get up here, he's gone. How's it been getting the new offensive line? It's been really good. Obviously, we had all the freshmen out of really good relationship with Coach Frye. Men seeing him leave was actually a little hard, but we all kept our minds open with Coach Bowen. And we're lacking him a lot. We've been developing relationships with him. And he's been really good to us so far. Good. All right, Carter. Thank you. Thank you. Yeah. But honestly, it's pretty good. Because I've basically sent, I mean,

20:31you could ask my parents. Since I was in middle school, I've never been like soup. Like I just get really excited. And I just start flexing out. Since I've been 11 years old, I've always done that. And yeah, there's a ton of high school pictures of me doing it. And yeah, that's just what I've always done. So that's pretty funny. I think a big positive for that celebration is normal people in the stands can do it. Yeah. That's true. That's some celebration. Like even I could do the both legs. Yeah. Yeah. Which you're like, right now. Yeah. There we go. Yeah. But I like the way he doesn't like. He doesn't stand over the quarterback. He's just celebrating. Like dude, he just sat the quarterback. It's time to both flex. Yeah. Have you heard from either both flex or bow jangles are from the Carolina side? I have not. I mean, I haven't, I guess I haven't done a great job of reaching out. But yeah, I probably shouldn't. Yeah, let's go. Well, they should call you. You don't get the chance. Yeah. It feels like it's obvious. It's bow time. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It makes sense. If I can't buy the bow meal at Kenan Stadium by Saturday at 8 p.m. Do you like the bow sack in sin?

21:34It's kind of hard to say. Yeah. I like it. I like it. That's actually interesting because Kamin actually was the one who made that up last year. Our first game last year, we played South Carolina. And I had two or one and a half or something like that. And so Kamin was calling me that last year too. So it was pretty interesting to see the origins of that. Yeah, just need a little momentum. A lot of opportunities here. Exactly. Exactly. OK, you've legally agreed to give us 10% of anything that you thought to bet. You're going to go. Were you impressed, jealous, or something else, which Javari Ritzies picked six against for Jake? Oh, no, that's that. I mean, I'm sure you all saw the clip too. Like, that was all him. Like, there was literally like a shallow pat. Like, it wasn't even like a screen or something. The shallow he like tipped it up caught it and then Heisman the quarterback while holding the ball like a loaf of bread in the other hand. And like, I don't know. He's a freak for sure. So I mean, that was just straight impressed there. I don't know. I haven't had an interception here.

22:35And I don't know if I had any high school either. So really? Yeah, that was pretty sick to see him doing that. And then like, running down the field next, because I was on the field at the same time. Yeah. Were there any moments where you wondered if he was going to run out of gas? Honestly, no, just because I like, I mean, doing like the workouts the whole summer with him. Like, he's a three-tack, but like, he's not really. Because like, he's just so free. Like, he's big enough to do it. But he's also so athletic for his size that, yeah. Now he's a freak for sure. All right. Tell us a little bit about growing up bow, young bow. Tell us a little bit about your background. Growing up bow. Hmm. I started playing football when I was like seven or so. My dad played college football at Yukon. And my mom played college volleyball at Yukon. So they were both there. And so I always was around athletics pretty much my whole life. We were like super competitive. Like, anytime we get in trouble, we'd be doing like pushups and that stuff. And I remember when I was like five years old, like, we'd have a game where like, my dad would

23:35sit on the couch and we'd like, go back basically doing like, one-on-one, like playing receiver in DB or some, I have two brothers and a sister. So very competitive household. Started playing football when I was like seven or whatever. Mostly because my dad played football and then my older brother. I don't know. I'm not sure if you're all familiar with the, like the pop-worn or super bowl stuff where you go to Orlando. So my older brother had done that a couple times. So after that, I was like, OK, I definitely want to start playing football. Started playing. My dad was my coach. And then we end up doing the same thing. We went to the Super Bowl twice since seventh and eighth grade. And then from there is history, high school football. Where do you fall in the siblings? So I've won older brother, me younger brother, younger sister. What's the game most likely to cause a fight if y'all are all playing? Oh, definitely basketball. My little brother was a very big, he was quite the referee during some of that stuff. And he'd always get mad and like call penalties. And yeah, definitely, I don't know.

24:36We played a lot of basketball. We had like our neighbor had like a football. It wasn't. It was just like a, their front yard was like kind of like curved. So we played football on that every time. And like you could throw the football over the house for like the deep balls. Nice. It was cool. But yeah, no. We played, we were always outside growing up the whole time. Would you beat your little brother up? So it was kind of a thing where like he'd start ref it. Like, and it would give me really mad. And then like I'd like chase up to him. And then he'd like kind of like be like, what's that animal that like plays dead? Oh, a possum? Yeah, he'd be like a possum. He'd just lay down on the ground. And then I kind of like get over him. But like I would never actually do anything. Because like, I don't know, I didn't want to like actually hurt him and like him go tell my mom or something. I mean, he might have hurt you. He wanted to get down on the ground. Yeah, exactly. But yeah, so there was a lot of that going on. I'm sure he could tell you more. But yeah. You were academic all ACC last year. And you're in the business school. Yeah.

25:36Both those things are no joke. How do you manage your time to do all these things successfully? Hmm. It's a good question. I don't really know. You just kind of, I feel like if you care about something you can make time. I'm not sure. I've always been like a very big math person my whole life. And luckily for the business school here, that was like the big criteria. Like you'd do the calculus and the stats and the e-con. So that was kind of right up my alley. I've not passed my view. Yeah. And then also having like good friends to be around. Like I'm sure you all know Will Hardy and Connor are both in the business school with me too. So like we kind of been on the same track our whole career, which has been pretty cool and been nice to have like other people around you to help you get better and stuff. So yeah. That sounds like a very intelligent household you guys have. Yeah. You guys just like Friday night or Saturday night after the game everybody's like out and you're like guys look we got some e-con we needed. Celebrate like normal with calculus.

26:37Yeah, I guess so. I guess. What do you like to do outside of football? I've recently I've gotten into fishing a lot more which has been we my girlfriend has a beach house or they live there from Morehead City and so I went fishing with her dad and stuff and it was really fun. I don't know. I like to do very spontaneous things all the time. I'm sure I can talk to y'all more about that later but. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Me and Karne will do a lot of interesting fun things. We played a lot of pickle ball and that kind of stuff. We did like a whole scavenger hunt one time. It was funny. I don't know. Do a lot of stuff like that but yeah. Visiting with the girlfriend's dad can be some pressure because like you want to do well but not too well. How did you handle that?

27:38It was kind of he was legit legit. He's lived his whole life. I was not legit. I caught like maybe two fish the whole time but it was fun. Sometimes like the great thing about fidget is kind of like more of like just being out there and like the peaceful vibe was almost better than actually catching sometimes so. I thought that was pretty cool. You set up a scavenger hunt like how well. Well I actually Conor will set it up and then he just like randomly like so like me and Conor were roommates. It was still not at the time and they just like really like put a note card outside my door and then me and Kate Law. And we had yeah they just did a whole spontaneous scavenger hunt and yeah it was fun. It was really cool. It was a day like. It was yeah it was at like 6 p.m. or 7 p.m. and we finished at like 10 p.m. but yeah. They were so even in acting. Yeah. Yeah. It was it was fun though.

28:39Very creative by Conor Will. So there has been a lot that has happened with this team this year both on the field and off the field. How have you guys tried to manage all of that? I mean it's just it's a lot to happen to people. How have you guys tried to manage that maybe individually and together? Yeah I think it's definitely everybody handles it a lot different. I mean just a lot of different especially like obviously all of the stuff with Tileek can be very tough. For me I just tried to keep focused on my goals and trying to individually work to get better like and focus even more on football and in school and stuff and I don't know for other people. I think that's kind of like the mindset of the whole team is just we want to move forward and in the right way and I think that biweek was very important for us to kind of like take a time out reset mentally and lock back in and I think that showed pretty well these past two weeks.

29:40You're talking about that first biweek. Yeah the first biweek. What's the best advice you got during that time? I think kind of just that like just focus on what's important and like not let the outside noise affect you too much and almost like just shut your ears off to the outside noise and just focus on the next thing ahead of you. Coach Marrakeen talked a lot about like you know you have like the high beams on your cars and like just turn the high beams off just focus on what's in front of you right there and yeah I think that was pretty good advice. He seems like a really good coach to me have you enjoyed working with him? No he's awesome he's awesome. What is what is that relationship been like? What has been beneficial for you? What's been beneficial? He's just the amount of knowledge he has is pretty insane obviously using the NFL for a long time and coach some pretty good players but just like being able to watch film with him and be able to look at different tells or he does a big like run cut up every week

30:41for what the team's main runs are. Obviously like this week we were playing like week fours and they do like the big mesh stuff and so I don't know just like little details that a lot of people don't tend to see that we can look closer as yeah he helps a lot of that. Coach Brown has talked a lot about and this has been a heavy topic for a lot of the year particularly with the defensive life about rotating you guys in more so that the amount of snaps that everybody plays isn't as high at the end of the year so maybe instead of playing 70 plays early in the season somebody was playing 40 or whatever. Do you think that's been beneficial like can you tell a difference do you think your teammates and your fellow defensive lineman can tell a difference? I mean there's definitely a big difference. I think last year I was averaging like 15 snaps if that a game and then now I'm these past few weeks I've been getting like 30 something so for me I mean I can't speak to the fact of like playing too much and then like body hurting because that wasn't the case for me last year but I'm sure that like guys like Cayman and Dez probably feel

31:44that a lot more so being able to stay fresh is a big thing because like I don't know like say like you're playing the game for 60 plays and like they're like throwing the ball and you can't even put your best stuff on film really because you're tired and you're gasped that doesn't really work well for anybody like so like playing more plays is not necessarily equal more production. That's defending that slumash feels like it would be tough. Yeah. What's one or two things I can look for when I'm watching on Saturday that'll help me try to be able to figure out what they're doing. These things Coach Collins has talked about is just like penetrating like if you sit there just sit on the block and just let them do their thing it's going to put a big bind on the guys in the back end and because like they have to play the run and the pass that whole time. So for us just being able to penetrate and we have some really big strong defensive tackles so the quarterback will like step up really far when they're riding that match so for them

32:45to be able to get through the line and get in the quarterback's face and again like with them stepping up like getting your hands up was a big thing too. But for us on the edge is just getting off the ball and trying to get to him as fast as we can. That's a big thing putting the pressure on them versus letting them dictate us. That's probably the biggest thing I'd say. All right. Three weeks left in the regular season. It just feels like a different team. I don't know how else to say it like what in your mind is kind of the mindset of these last couple of weeks and what do you think will be important for you guys to continue to play well? Yeah. Mindset wise. I don't know. I think we're just starting to focus on like the little things even more and just completely buying into that and then I don't know. Everybody is since summer workouts we've always talked about like we break everything down on champions and like we want to be the best thing that we can be and I think now we're kind of like getting towards that point and just finishing this year like going three

33:48and no in these last three weeks I don't know. I feel like that's very important to everybody and everybody's pretty bought into that. We're going to definitely thought that we're going to be opposed or anything encouraging that you're able to take out of that first game. Yeah. One, you got the first game into your belt. Definitely needed that or something that I was saying that I didn't really get too much to do in the preseason. So kind of my first live actions. That was good to try to get my feet wet a little bit there. How was it? I was a team that was very experienced in your first year. I mean obviously wasn't great. It definitely wasn't what I expected. I wanted to happen with the team when it happened. Obviously you want to come out with a victory and you get into that. How do you evaluate your performance? Yeah, I mean obviously wasn't great. I needed to do a better job. No helping the team when it's helping the offense and that's why it kind of brought me here. It's to help the team help the offense no go. So I had to do a better job with that coming forward. What way is specifically? I got good open and catch the ball. That's my job as a receiver. That is your job description.

34:48That's why I got to do better job. Did you feel like you weren't getting separated from what guys were up in the road? No, I mean everything as a whole really. You just got to get better at it. I'm not going to point out one specific thing. I'm going to have to leave it to you. I can find yourself in the grocery. Do you get frustrated at the moments like that in the ball time? Definitely a little bit of both. Obviously I just wanted the team to win. I think we got a chance to win. Definitely towards it. And then it stretched out last drive. I was a couple of plays here. A couple calls that he maybe should have gotten. But I think the frustration more so it just comes from wanting to win more than anything. What you said he was a little surprised. How much attention you got right away from the defense. How about you? Yeah, definitely. We maybe gill a bit more. One of the ones kind of how the game playing was set up. I didn't get any of that. Different coverage out of cloud to my side. And this is kind of how the game goes. What's the process been? I know it's sometimes where, but whatever reason. Just see that. Yeah, definitely.

35:49Especially in college, a lot of the game friends defensively were taking your leg. You had a lot of success at a high-speed. I was able to win the ball having different weapons. They kind of still get the victories. And I was able to continue to do better jobs when I had. But the most important thing in the process has been post-game. Getting on the same page with Kyler. You guys exchanged text. Yeah, I filmed them. Definitely. Kind of asking what did I see there. Kind of go over and play. And I just kind of give him what I saw. And kind of different feedback there. Exchange words. Mark, I get it. We're asking questions about the previous game. Are you the type of guy to let a game like that winger or how do you flush it? You got to move on. Got to move on. What? 16 more of them. Hopefully, no, I can stay healthy throughout the year. And just continue to build and get better each week. You guys did so much work throughout the off season to get on the same page. How different is it when you get into that regular season? Yeah, it's totally different. It's totally different.

36:49You can do a lot of things, you know, in shirts and shorts. And then once you go out there, put practice and get pads on. You do like the point practice we do with the colds. But there's nothing like actually going out there. Not in live action. And really trying to be on the same page. So I think that would really should both continue to develop and look at better. Did that just a matter of reps then? As much as anything? Yeah, definitely, definitely. Like I said, I was kind of my first live action together. So I can continue to give it. When you're early impressions on what you're doing together and what's your own experiences? Yeah, but obviously I have a death respect, no JG's call or preseason. Obviously, we all go really healthy. That's kind of the best and most important thing. Obviously, that's a lot of health that you've been going for. So, that's it. Marvin, what are your early impressions of the Rams? What do you think of the Rams? Yeah, I mean, they're a good team. They're good physical team. I got a new lot of new guys up front, I think. That's kind of where their strong suit is. Kind of a little different to Buffalo. Come over to a little match coverage. So I'm excited to build this.

37:49Personally, when the belts did give you one of my opportunities, how do you feel today? It's not so good. Wasn't many of them. Wasn't many of them. So, I thought you'd be good. How much were you thinking versus just playing? You're not getting a preseason game actually. I think it was three season. Definitely, definitely thinking a lot out there. I think I'd come with reps. I think to think and less and just going out there and playing. Definitely come with reps. It's something you're on, you're better at. But definitely, I was thinking a lot out there. Is there anything you can do to prove that that's for coverage? Anything you can do to the past? You're going to fix that a lot, obviously. Yeah, I mean, you just got to team and get open for yourself, making yourself available. And when the ball does, can you make it into play? The heat is just taking you away. That means other guys are having a chance to get open. That's how kind of high it is. No longer still succeed in offense. That's the best thing for us. They're going to be with Kyler. Is there something that comes pretty quickly in a new game or something like that? I'm not sure. Hopefully sooner or later, I think.

38:49I'm looking to see. We'll see. I don't think we're in a bad place right now at all. Obviously, I don't really think that. But just a live episode will continue to grow and show. All I care about is how I am with my teammates. I don't want them to ever think I don't care about them or how I'm not in it. And you know, you can say whatever you want about me besides that. But I always dedicate anything I can to them. And I don't want that to every question. I just said that it felt like sometimes you were holding up somewhere watching film. You texted him, say, hey, you missed this or you want to tweet that? Well, like the first day, he was batting all of Russ's passes. So I had to let him know. You know, you got to take advantage of that. You got to make sure guys are, you know, know that you still care. And you still want to be a part of this. You know, just watch and practice. There's a couple of little things we're doing different. Whether I'm communicating with Dumbar or other people. So here that you're also talking with him.

39:49And you give him pointers during the off season, just a constant communication. How do you see him grow as a person, you know, in part of how he's approaching things. How he getting ready for this season. Well, you know, I think the thing with Keanu is he's more comfortable. You know, it's not his first time around the track. It's actually like he can, you know, catch his feet under him. You know, I always think when you're in your rookie season, you're going from bowl game. I don't even know what's constantly playing a bowl game. Sorry, Wisconsin. I don't even know. But, you know, personally, I just think when you go from bowl game to training for the combine, to, you know, rookie minicamp, OTAs, the, you know, many can, I mean, to train the camp. The regular season, you really don't get a time to really catch yourself. You know, he understands the playbook now. He can be more vocal. You know, I think with my absence, the other guys' absence, you know, you need guys like that to stay. You need guys like that to step up and be ready for those opportunities. What's the surgery you had in Yawsey?

40:49Is it the same you had during the season? What was the... Just tightened down everything. You know, my left side, because I was over-compensating a little bit. But, you know, it was, it wasn't anything that lingers, you know. I'll say this, a groin's not like an ACL. It's not like anything's ever going to get affected again. You know, you know, feeling good, able to do everything. Squatting heavy, with power and speed. So, you know, it feels good to get after a gun. What do you think of what the team was able to accomplish in a short period of time to bring guys like Russ and you think they're ending? You know, I think they're all good acquisitions. But, you know, you never want to be known as a paper champ. So, you can't win the off season. I think the work gets done out here on the field. It's done in the classroom. It gets done training. You know, and then you see where you're at in training camp. And then you build on that. You know, I think we got the right guys in the building. It's just about putting a completely monofil.

41:51Can't have technical reasons to separate the business part of the game and the actual football player. Oh, you know, you always want to, you always have to treat it like a business. Because, you know, one day it's going to end. And that's a good job. It's not like in college where, you know, you got four years guarantee. Well, now you don't even know what NIL knows, crap, transfer portal, portal. But, you know, you have to, I still have love for this game and I still work my tail off and I still put everything into it. And that's not going to change. But, you have to know what you bring to the team and what your value is. Can't be wanted to be able to be out there with your teammates today, I'm off, shall we? Great, you know, we got a new training staff and still learning the warm up. A little different. But, you know, I loved it. You know, just getting after it. Learning new guys, going through the same drills I've been doing by myself.

42:55I actually like having more people around because like, kind of go stir crazy when it's just you and another guy you're like, damn, I gotta go back up for another rep already. And so, you know, it's nice to be up here and get a chance to be with my guys. Can we confident and be able to get down the chair motion? Oh, I'm going to try to remain pretty neutral because I don't want to be to either way. All I know is I want to be here. But, we'll see what happens. It's my last year here. I've had a great career here, but I look forward to playing next year. What that second surgery you said at this time was on the left side, was the first time around on the right side? Right side during the season, left side. And that was just tightening down my core muscle. It wasn't the same as my ad doctor. You know, you can ask Dr. Bradley, Dr. Zuckerbron, who did the surgery as well.

43:59If anything, it's going to help me and make me a lot stronger from here on up. Can you say you were training with another guy who have you come to mind? Tyson, I've been training with him for the last eight years. We've always trained together. We've got a trainer up north, Cheryl Cohele, he's my guy. He trained a Heath Miller, Brett Kiesel, multitudin guys that I'll respect. And we've just been getting after him. Can you say you were a few guys historically, 35, they paid big contract, and who that held against you? I think there's not a lot of history behind it. But, you know, for me, I look as, I'm not looking to be like anybody else. You know, my game is different from everybody else in the sleep. You know, I like to think, you know, I can play the run in the pass, and that's where I'm different. You know, I remember last year, Mike T. you just brought to my attention. You know, the thing that's really cool is you watch powerlifters.

45:00And, you know, my game's built on power and technique, and those guys go into the 40s. And so, you know, that's what kind of research I'm doing behind the scenes. But, you know, we'll see what happens. There's not a lot of history, but I'm here to make history. And I'm here to, you know, win another Super Bowl there, and, you know, have a great season. Do you have a set goal for yourself or how many years you want to play in the NFL? Or do you just take things here right here? You know, it was tough answering that question right after the season. I will say this, guys, I can't keep answering that question right after the season. That is not fair to the season that's not fair to my family. You know, but in my mind, I got three years, and I want to maximize them. I want to play at a high level, and I want to go deep into playoffs. And, you know, we've got a good team, and I'm going to do my part to be ready for all those situations. You've played on practice in the New York Portola Church, or is it possible you only get

46:00you might hold in and, of course, in the issue of that? I have not even thought that far. I've taken a day. Okay. You know, I told my agent, and we talked about it. I mean, we were cool coming out here. And, you know, I'll be here for many. And then, I'll be there for training here. I don't know what the work entails, but when we get there, we'll cross that bridge. Why would a guy's three more? Remain a steel or could he use three years? You know, there was a conversation between me, Omar, and Mike T. And there's certain guys that are at One Helmet, guys. You know, and I want to be one of those One Helmet guys. And, you know, there's a hunger and desire there. But that doesn't mean just hanging it up and calling it a career. To me, I think, you know, I got more bullets to fire, and I'm excited to do that. What's the meaning of the last one? New in and Russell Wilson are going to be out there with Ultimate, what's the meaning of the year?

47:04I saw Russ as on social media. But I have an idea to see it. I let the surprise happens when it happens. It's cool to have another Walter Payton Manier winner. I think it's an honor to be there. I'll say one thing. I won't be here. I'm just telling you guys, so it's not a big deal. I won't be here because I have to do a Walter Payton Manier thing on Thursday. It's not like I'm skipping. But it's an honor to be with Russ. It's an honor of doing things in the community. Doing great work. The cool thing is, as much as we get honored and nominated for these things, the work doesn't stop. And I can see that with Russ' foundation, we had an event for our foundation. And my mom was quick to tell Russ, hey, we need the partners around. I was like, mom, let's just enjoy the event.

48:06But it's really cool to be a part of a lead group. All right. Thank you. Thank you. And you guys, Mech was just talking about how you guys make each other better. He's obviously a young guy, but an impressive guy. I know your goal is to shut them down. I'm against him, but seeing him get better because you guys are challenging him. Is that a positive? It is a positive. It's a super positive. Just going with this unjuremite, I'm not going to be excited to be super-heal. Do you guys feel like, does that kind of mindset that you take an everyday in practice? You just say you're not happy with Jeremiah Ketchum. People like, I have a 98 out of 100 receivers. Is that a kind of mindset that you're not catching folks on here? That's right. Is that kind of a, is it keep that in the back of your head when we want to get Jeremiah and Carnell and Brandon and Mechum? Yes, that's my mindset. In practice the whole day, I went to this boys to get me everything that they have. It's going to be easy for me and I'll be a pro.

49:08What have you seen the growth of these young moaners? Obviously, we saw that they're not a Jeremiah last year. They're your main, sorry. But Calvin, some of the Aaron, some of the young guys, how have you seen them come along? and Scott has gotten completely better from his brain. Like completely better. Is that just time in the program? I'm just getting used to the speed of college Shippup, I would say. What about Calvin? He was obviously here last year, but he was. Calvin has gotten a lot better. I would say that he's gotten a lot smarter. And then he also write G.B. Go ahead and think he's there about Calvin's intelligence, you know, where he's grown. Where specifically is it? The film room is it picking up the playbook? Where have you seen that? The rain up grabbing him? I would say Calvin has gotten smarter just like his game knowledge, like expecting like a different kind of routes and stuff like that. Perfect. When did everything start to click for him? So last year was it in the sauceies? When did you feel just comfortable with this game? I would say it in the spring, I started to get a lot more comfortable in our defense.

50:11Yeah, yeah. We said you break up the past yesterday with the spare mind game. I'm sorry if you asked, but it's earlier. But what is like going up against him? Do you? It seems like you enjoy it. Yeah, I love it. He's tough. I like going against him a lot. He's really good. What have you improved in your game just from that, for example, those one on one matchups? Yeah. This preseason or whatever. You know how a ball of who this game is? So Jeremiah, he forces me to play the ball. Because if you don't play the ball against him, he'll go get it. Yeah, yeah. And you, Dave, how would you describe this defense now compared to this time? A year ago from this standpoint of a confidence factor. You don't mean that you guys feel on the field? How would you describe it? It's different about it, I guess. I feel like everybody's a lot more smart than there is. Everybody's like, I would just say that we're going just just just smarter. Yeah, but you know, when you look up and lay in a random decided to come back and Caleb down, transfer it in.

51:13I mean, what did you feel about that? Did it just grow stronger in that one week span, two weeks span? You're still on up saying? I feel like those guys have played at that level. The level those guys have played at? Yeah, I would say that. Over here. Over here. A down is coming in. What we're saying is coming back, Zell says coming back, it's just so light. We'll be happy to be the daddy. Yeah, Drake, still? Thanks, man. Of course. We're also talking about him. You get him pointers during the offseason, just a constant communication. How do you see who grows a person, you know, and how he's approaching things and how he's getting ready for this season versus his rookie? You know, I think the thing with Keanu is he's more comfortable, you know. It's nice first time around the track. It's actually like he can catch his feet under him. You know, I always think when you're in your rookie season, you're going from bowl game. I don't even know Wisconsin playing a bowl game. Sorry, Wisconsin, I don't even know. But, you know, personally, I just think when you go from bowl game to training for the

52:16combine, to, you know, rookie minicamp, OTAs, the, you know, minicamp, I mean, the training camp, the regular season, you really don't get a time to really catch yourself. You know, you understand to play book now, you can be more vocal. You know, and I think with my absence, the other guys' absence, you know, you need guys like that to step up and be ready for those opportunities. I'm just trying to do whatever you have in Yasi. You know, the same you had during the season, was it more thorough? Just tightened down everything. You know, on my left side, because I was overcompensating a little bit. But, you know, it was, it wasn't anything that lingers. You know, I'll say this, a groin's not like an ACL. It's not like anything's ever going to get affected again. And, you know, feeling good, able to do everything squat and heavy with power and speed. So, you know, it feels good to get after it. What do you think of what the team was able to accomplish in the off season? In terms of bringing guys like wrestling and things around these days?

53:16You know, I think they're all good acquisitions, but, you know, you never want to be known as a paper champ. So, you can't win the off season. I think the work gets done out here on the field, gets done in the classroom. It gets done training, you know, and then you see where you're at in training camp. You build on that. You know, I think we got the right guys in the building. It's just about putting a completely month to go. Can't have technical reasons to separate the business part of the game in the actual football club. Oh, you know, you always want to, you always have to treat it like a business. Because, you know, one day it's going to end. And that's a pretty job. It's not like in college where, you know, you got 40 years guarantee. Well, now you don't even know what NIL knows, crap, or transfer portal, portal. But, you know, you have to, I still have love for this game, and I still work my tail off,

54:16and I still put everything into it. And that's not going to change. But you have to know what you bring to the team and what your value is. Can't be only to feel to be out there with your teammates today emotionally. Great, you know, we got a new training staff and still learning the warm up. A little different. But, you know, I loved it. You know, just getting after it. Learning new guys, going through the same drills I've been doing by myself. I actually like having more people around because like, kind of go stir crazy when it's just you and another guy you're like, damn, I got to go back up for another rep already. And so, you know, it's nice to be up here and give a chance to be with my guys. Can we confident and be able to get down to your emotion? Oh, I'm going to try to remain pretty neutral because I don't want to be to either way.

55:16I know as I want to be here, but we'll see what happens. It's my last year here. I've had a great career here, but I look forward to playing. What that second surgery you said at this time was on the left side of the first time around on the right side? Right side during the season, left side. And that was just tightening down my core muscle. It wasn't the same as my ad doctor. You know, you can ask Dr. Bradley, Dr. Zuckerbron, who did the surgery as well. If anything, it's going to help me and make me a lot stronger from here on up. Can you say you were training with another guy who have you come to me? Tyson, I've been training with him for the last eight years. We've always trained together. We got to train her up north. Shout out to Cole Haley, he's my guy. He trained a heat miller, bread keel, multitude of guys that I'll respect.

56:17And we've just been getting after him. Can we get very few guys historically, 35, 30 paid, big contract, any of that's held against you? I think there's not a lot of history behind it. But, you know, for me, I look at as I'm not looking to be like anybody else. You know, my game is different from everybody else in the sleep. You know, I like to think, you know, I can play the run in the pass. And that's where I'm different. You know, I remember last year Mike T. just brought to my attention, you know, the thing that's really cool is you watch powerlifters. And, you know, my game's built on power and technique. And those guys go into the 40s. And so, you know, that's what kind of research I'm doing behind the scenes. But, you know, we'll see what happens. There's not a lot of history, but I'm here to make history. And I'm here to, you know, win another Super Bowl of air and, you know, have a great season. Do you have a set goal for yourself on how many years you want to play in the NFL?

57:17Or do you just take things here right here? You know, it was tough answering that question right after the season. I will say this guys, I can't keep answering that question right after the season. That is not fair to the season that's not fair to my family. You know, but in my mind, I got three years. And I want to maximize them. I want to play at a high level. And I want to go deep into playoffs. And, you know, we got a good team. And I'm going to do my part to be ready for all those situations. If you plan on practicing when you report to the church or is it possible, that you might fold in and enforce the issues? I have not even thought that far. I've taken a day. My day, you know, I told my agent and we talked about it. I mean, we were cool coming out here. You know, I'll be here for many. And then I'll be there for training. You know, I don't know what the work entails, but when we get there, we'll cross that bridge. Why would a man bring you work?

58:18Remain a stealer for three years. You know, there was a conversation between me, Omar and Mike T. And there are certain guys that are one helmet guys. And I want to be one of those one helmet guys. And, you know, there's a hunger and desire there. But that doesn't mean just hanging it up and calling it a career. To me, I think, you know, I got more bullets to fire. And, you know, I'm excited to do that. What's the meaning? Last one. Can you and Russell Wilson are going to be out there with what's paid men to be your pet shop? I saw Russ's on social media. But I have an idea to see it. I like the surprise happens when it happens. But, you know, it's cool to have another walk-to-payton man here winner. You know, I think it's an honor to be there. And I'll say one thing. I won't be here. I'm just telling you guys so it's not a big deal.

59:19I won't be here because I have to do a walk-to-payton man here thing on Thursday. So it's not like I'm skipping. But, you know, it's an honor to be with Russ. And, you know, it's an honor of doing things in the community. Doing great work. And, you know, the cool thing is, as much as we get honored and nominated for these things, the work doesn't stop. And I can see that with Russ's foundation. We had an event for our foundation. And my mom was quick to tell Russ, hey, we need the partners around. I was like, mom, let's just enjoy the event. But, you know, it's really cool to be a part of a lead group. All right. Thank you. Thank you for your career. Was it like to see, like, real extended action? I think that's so good. I mean, it was a good opportunity. It was definitely a good game. Not one that I expected to go down the wire like that. But sometimes it goes like that. It's a lot of the situation and stuff that we talked about. We went out there and we executed.

1:00:19So it was just fun to be a part of that. So, what's the style on these? We don't know. We've actually been very different. I just wanted to say that. Yeah, I mean, you just got to plan for a lot of different things. It just extends out a little bit. So we got to just be very, very conscious in our studying, like who's going to be in there. What are their different, like skill sets and things of that nature? You get to use these different like camping, or diving, or do you look for those to you guys? Not necessarily, but we, like, there's always getting some work with the scouts and put it next anyway. So we get different different deals. I mean, he's a good football player. So we got no worries out on the field. But we just got to honestly just trust our scheme, trust our defense. I like our players a lot. So when we have that matchup, whoever has that matchup, we just have to get one of them. Which do you feel like you can help with that, you know, being a midfield at matchup? Yeah, I mean, I go out there and I cover. So they don't really, they put them out alive. He's not really in there. He's not going to be knocking a lot. So he's going to be, he's going to be seen out there with the nickels of safety.

1:01:19So there's going to be a lot of times we're going to have to cover him. So it's our time to cover him. Which got to go through our job. Berizo, would you play a lot of stats, especially like last weekend teams? Still think like a receiver at touch? Yeah, I mean, I get a feel for routes early on. But yeah, I think just in my training, like, understanding the raw combination and what they want to run on different down in distances is, uh, tell me out. Or is it fitting the run, depending on the run against the sea? What kind of stance are you going to be running back so that it makes it hard to bring down? Yeah, they're big backs. They're both over 220. So they're going to run downhill. They play with good pad levels. So they're going to put their pads low. So as a dude, like a nickel like me, I got to just make sure I run through their outside lane. Get them down. What goes through your mind when they're with you? Quarterbacks on the field? Same time. I mean, nine. They've actually split him out a little bit. So he might think I'm a little ball a little bit, but uh, 15. We have to guard him over whatever our time is. We got to go execute him. I mean, that's that's a quarterback. So we should make sure we handle that. How's the Oregon game? How hungry you die to the defense with yourself and another top five team?

1:02:22Definitely. I don't really think it took the Oregon game to wake us up like that, but I was definitely, I mean, it was part of our part of our season. So we got to scope bounce back over. As a defense as a team, um, keep use that to ignite a fire in us. Sure. One of the leaders of this special teams unit. You feel like you guys are at right now through seven games and where do you need to be at? Uh, I mean, I think we got to continue to get better. We don't really have any block shed really. We don't really have any touchdowns on special teams. So we got to make sure we got to be game teachers in that space. I feel like we got to continue to improve. Anything else for Enzo? Hey, buddy. Thank you, Angel. Players are getting more comfortable under the system and just like rushing together and having similar guys out there together. Um, you know, we always want to do better. And, you know, it's 10 plus sacks across the room is the goal.

1:03:22You know, nothing short. That's why I'm saying like last year is just last year, you know, and I feel like the number four eight and a half as a leader of the sack. A leader is too low. So we have to bring that up. With your impression of Jonah Ellis to this point and the new guy in the room there. Yeah. No, Jones, Jones doing good. He's doing good. Um, I feel like he's, it took him a little bit to get acclimated and just feel like comfortable and with this new system and stuff like that. Um, but he's doing good and uh, definitely just, like I said, impressed with him. He definitely handles it like a pro. Um, he's going about as minutes like a pro and uh, yeah, just I'm happy to see him progressing. Can't wait to see what he does. You guys have talked about how BJ wants you guys to attack more and simplify that. How is that help you individually? Coach, BJ? Yeah.

1:04:22Yeah. Um, first of all, he's a great coach. He's a great guy and his defense is something that like. For like having a second year under that, I feel like I've been well. Like, has been good for me. Obviously, uh, just kind of get used to his system. I mean, he's the defensive coordinator, you know, he's a defensive coach and. Just somebody who I can get behind, just like coach Sean and uh, just been working with him and getting better and understanding the defense more. I feel like it's going to allow me to play more free and just play more aggressive. Did he simplify it or can he keep it the same? I feel like he kind of kept it the same. I don't feel like there is no need to simplify it any more than it is. It's pretty simple for me on that end, I would say. Um, and just our position in general, but you know, I feel like he's done a great job with just, you know, helping us understand the defense more and just the philosophy of it all and how it all comes together.

1:05:28And how like every piece works together. That's for me. Um, I'm a big believer in the Lord and um, just trust me in this kind of mindset of mine and leaning on him and leaning on his understanding instead of mine. Um, you know, I grew up in a faith-based household and, you know, I just leaned on him for a lot of times and that's what's all about. It's a process here as much as you want to say something different. Like, you know, I say, but guys, your time's probably the majority of the people that are free. It's like, Jay, like, it takes time. You're good, but like, it takes time for you to play with the guys. And I learn to take you, get them off the screen. And every one of times different. And that's what I've learned here. You got to enjoy the process because it's your story and not anyone else's. And it's going to be different. Look, how much time are you spending at center? How's that split between center and guard? You look at build up pushability? Yeah. I think obviously just what Coach Day said, just um, the narrowing down of the roster and stuff like that. Obviously, last year, what happened, you know, like we had obviously Seth and Josh go down and a lot of us have stepped up in different ways.

1:06:29And Carson was going around the garden center. I mean, like we're all switch swap, we're all switch swapping and cross training because we got to do that, you know. Like, we got to be able to go play different positions. It's one of playing that in a fell coach always tells us there's only guys that travel. So like everyone's got to know a different position because someone's going to go down and someone's got to be ready to go to that position. What's comfortable are you at center? How comfortable are you at center? I'm comfortable. Yeah, I mean, I play a little bit of a Brian and I've been in high school and you know, I learned a lot from Coach Kelly last year. With his NFL stuff, I used to obviously coach a line and stuff with the centers and coach fries well. And I'm just, I'm getting more comfortable because last year I was doing a lot of season cues and stuff like that before practice would start. So it's good. Look, were you asking about Ethan? Yeah. I knew about my team. Oh, okay. Is your primary position left barred? Yeah, I'm just switching around honestly right now. Hey, look, one last question. After the street's big crew today, you know, you and Tag Room.

1:07:30Yeah, that was a testament to it. Yeah, you're right. You talk about Texas. Yeah, the execution was not playing. I also, uh, I'm pretty good at making questions. No doubt. What was it like to make hard things that have been in the midst of it? Yeah, perfectly blocked. Perfectly. And I'll give you this story, this background. So last year we ran a lot, a lot of periods with streets and stuff like that. And we never really want to run in the games. So we're always like toss it out. Like, what are we doing? Like this? We never run this play coach. Coach, what are we doing? Stuff like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, um, we always joke about it. Like it was the perfect play to the perfect look. And you know, I'm not sure how much time was on the clock. I think it was like 14 seconds or something like that. So we were getting out there and I'll be lying to you if I said like, uh, just, here we go. Like we're just going to run the clock out with this play. Yeah. And it was a perfect look. You know, it's a perfect play to the perfect look. And, you know, obviously with all the scheming and stuff we do and obviously running to the

1:08:31plays day and day out during that time. And what we do is we're ready for it. And you got to be ready for it. And you got to be ready for it. And you know, sometimes coach always talks about just, you know, like when we walk through, maybe we might only walk through play one time before we play the game. But like I'm not sure what else to do that. And they got to be ready for that and ready for that certain look that possible to show up. And that's what happened. And we ran it perfectly. And that's just a testament to the coaches continue to stick with it. And that's continue to stick with it. You came in, you made some ways of trusting people. What do you feel like you were able to do with your freshman year to kind of put yourself on track? What? What I really did, you know, I got a lot of hits. So, yeah, that really helped me out make a name for myself. Is that something that you take a lot of pride in making plays on the ball? Yes, it is. It was a key to that. Two nights. Just give back. Keep on quoting back. Watch your eyes and don't make a play. So how are you doing now? Safety is your playing post-pots this spring. Like how are you finding that to like you? I'm adjusting really well to that because I just, I can just do more than just like one play one to my.

1:09:38So it's just, I just really like that. What Ryan said yesterday about how you guys send the preamping things up in that even last week. Anything to add on to emotional? Can you give us an insight into how competitive this spring has been? Yeah, you know, we're all just, we're all just winners, we're all competitive. You just, you know, want to win. What have you been able to learn from peel it down? Some of the answers. So, approach to the game, how he plays, what have you kind of been able to take away everything that you're doing? Really just like his mentality, you know, he has that dog mentality. So I'm able to just, you know, pick up every single day, you know, mentally and physically for them. How much does it inspire you to come in last year? See what Caleb did, see what Lathen did and, you know, know you have a chance to follow their books. It's just, it's really especially because, you know, I know I can be that great of a athlete as long and maybe some of them. What do you look at for this year's, what do you need to do and give yourself a chance to get on the field once here? Just really, stay more in mind, I know it's my playbook and hopefully just be there and talking to other people.

1:10:39You said get bigger, you put on more weight in the past year? Yes, I hope so. What do you up to right now? I'm home, I mean. How much, how do you think that will help your game? A lot because you know it's a physical game, you know, you got to be in a game, you know. How is, how is Coach Guerrero helped you because that are safe? He really knows the stuff, so just being able to take in every piece of advice that he knows he's telling me answers. What's Coach's position like? He's good, I like him a lot. He always talks to the guys, he's really loving, he knows about him. Nice, he's like that. Tim Maynard, you have a phone, open that. I know every game is critical for safety, but in a game like this where they are lining up quickly and stuff, is your job at hand, stumbling or maybe more complicated? Yeah, I feel like one of the keys to Victor is always, you know, communicating. You can't run the defense, you want to run without all being on the same page.

1:11:39So yeah, I think that, you know, I say these DB's linebackers. We always do a great job communicating anyway, but you know, in any game you got to be at the highest level communication, I think that's what we're going to do. And you're running back, what just jumps out to you about your couple of guys and talk about his patients, kind of runs intelligently for one of another terms, that what just jumps out to you. Yeah, it's a great running back, surely patient, a great contact balance, really got to run your feet when you're tackling him. And you know, it's explosive, it has that home run speed, so you know, really excited for the challenge and excited for another great back. Rob Hall, our focus this back is far right now. It's just up there and he says, kind of neat and fun hours to hold coaches accountable in this program. What's that look like? How does that work? Is it done quietly? Is it done loudly? Yeah, I think that's what's so special about our team is, you know, obviously when you say, you know, holding a coach accountable, there is no disrespect in that matter. As far as, as we're looking for ways that they can make us better and they look for ways that we can make them better. So, you know, having that relationship, you know, just benefits the team.

1:12:42I'm sorry. Tony, I got you already. No, we've been on this discussion. How much do you appreciate flying next to Cam? And what is he maybe watching you even though he's here younger? Just being around him and watching what? Yeah, I appreciate Cam, you know, he came in here and like I said beforehand, I'm such like a pro. Came in asking a bunch of questions, you know, what's fun is learning as much as he could at such a fast rate. You know, continue to learn. I think he just being with someone like him, just something I constantly compete with. And he makes me better by doing that. So, I think we're always just in competition with each other obviously. We support each other more than I think anyone else in the good. So, I think just having a brother like that that I can compete against at such a high level, with also having the support from him is extremely special. I almost get tired of seeing you guys are playing lights out. If it takes that to win an actual championship, you know, questions coming up. So, why and who knows how we're going to go? If it comes down to you guys having to win, how much confidence is there on this defensive year?

1:13:44You know, then the day we have complete confidence in our offense, first of all. But, I mean, as a defense, when you go out there every time you step on a field, in the back, and we're expected to, you know, get the stop, expect to win the game. Coach knows it's a great job, you know, making sure that we feel that every day our practice, that if it comes down to the defensive, I mean, we need to be ready for that moment. So, I think we'll be ready. We have time for just one more. That's especially the needs you guys are ready to come in. You're Tony Gervin, Fakhabah. Lapin with the splits of Tennessee's receivers. How does that impact your job? Yeah, I think just obviously those are unique splits and, you know, why is that a little more, on this more space. But, uh, it just, I mean, just preparing for that game. I want to say really affects our job. But, we just have to be ready for that. It's something that we haven't seen before. And I think our coaches and, you know, team has done a great job of showing us those looks, uh, to players with the game. Thank you very much. Thank you guys. When we want to play on a great team together, and we feel that there's something special that can be forged here. But, yeah, he's, um, I'm grateful to have him in my life.

1:14:44And, uh, hopefully we can have at least one great year, but maybe, maybe a couple more. If it does come together this year for you guys, as far as, like, both being able to stay on the field, having the production, and then, like, what you're talking about, having that, that team's success. Do you think it'll be sweeter because of the relationship that you guys have sort of cultivated off the field over the last three years? Yeah, I think that's, you know, the whole team and, uh, a big aspect of, kind of being a team, one another, doing team bonding, not just being work buddies that you show up, go home, do your own thing. I would, but had to speak in front of the room, whatever, however long ago, and he's like, he's looking forward to kids coming up to him and calling him Uncle Bud, and, you know, having relationships with, with your, with your teammates and not just them, but their family, their kids. And, uh, it's just that bond, you know, strengthens, uh, your motivation for playing. It's not, you know, it's not all about you. It's not all about your family. It's, if I mess up here, you know, I'm letting down, um, everybody.

1:15:59So, I mean, I think that's kind of preached in a goal on every team that anyone's ever a part of. So, um, yeah, obviously the more time you get to spend together, the closer we get. And I think the coaches are doing a good job of harping on that and making sure that, uh, especially the, the ex-players that have come in, uh, uh, Coach Bowman has talked about a bunch. Like, these are your brothers and it's really important to, to grow that bond. So, when bullets start flying on Sunday, you know, you're, you're really willing to maybe not die for one another, but you're willing to push it close to that, to that level. But, um, yeah. Um, and obviously you start winning a few games. It's kind of easier for that, that bond to grow and get tighter. Start losing, you know, fingers pointing, bubble-bubble, this and that, you've seen it all, but, um, I'm just excited, hopefully to, to get off on a, on a good start.

1:17:06Preseason training camp, all behind, how confident are you feeling in your new DC, Jesse's system? And is there anything that has been so dramatically different under, under him? No, no, at this point it's mostly just new names for things, little tweaks to techniques that I've done, uh, before. But yeah, I feel very confident in, you know, every coach, uh, on the staff. He's a great leader. He takes command in, in the defensive room and he's very straight straight to the point. Uh, it doesn't figure coat things and I think he gets his message across well and he does a good job, uh, along with every coach in the room, uh, you know, making sure we're all on the same page on what we want to accomplish as a defense. So, um, obviously we get more time. Um, it'll get tighter and tighter and tighter and, uh, nothing's like actually getting those game reps.

1:18:06So it's, it'll probably might hopefully would come out flying, but you know, there might always be that a tentative first few plays and then we were counting on one of us to make a big play and then just start rolling from there. Where are you that, uh, conditioning wise after, you know, missing obviously a bunch of training camp. Um, it's, it's hard to truly know until you're out there on Sunday, but I've been pushing it. I pushed it really hard this week. Yesterday was a real long day. It's been pretty hot last couple days. Um, so I've been really making a point to, to run to the ball. Um, just getting a little extra running every chance I get every chance I can get on, on plays and stuff. But, uh, there's really nothing like Sunday and having to play for real at the next year. Um, and there's always going to be moments where you're, or you're tired out there, but overall I'm feeling really good. I know that you guys basically have a second line of, you know, Tule and, and Bud. So if you are having a chance at some point, like, you're not, there's not really a massive drop off.

1:19:11Yeah, it's huge. It's huge. Um, if there is any drop off at all, to be able to have guys like that, which I've mentioned is like having two sets of starters out there, because those two guys can go to a bunch of other teams and probably end up being a starter on the team, you know, Bud's done it for a long time and Tule is always just improving getting better. So we're really going to have each other's backs out there. Um, we're really going to stay locked in on what the alignment are doing against each other. And we're really just going to try to bring four guys together and try to get the most out of it. What is the coaching staff? It's kind of said to you guys are prepared to guys with us. What's on that? Well, it's been quite nice out here. It's a little cooler than Orange County. So we haven't had any super hot days, but you know, the last two, it's been warm, but it's all the, all the usual hydration.

1:20:12Make sure you're taking care of body this and that because it starts now a few days out from the game. You get a hydrate now because if you start, you know, Sunday morning, it's going to be too late by then. But, you know, it's not, it's not the hottest thing ever. It's South Florida. Yeah, it's. We're out Carolina. So that'll be nice and cool. Not, but. Yeah, it's, it's a factor, but it's always hot with the turf, but the sun shouldn't be beating on the turf and so far too bad. So just always, I mean, we're always trying to hydrate right. So if you're just starting now, you're probably a little far behind. It's been great. So that's something I did to. Why did you start to feel confident when you think you need your first season here? When did you start to feel okay? They, they were to ask me to take on a bigger load. I started feeling comfortable, definitely fall camp. You know, we started getting them reps and things started ramping up.

1:21:14I felt confident myself that I got here, but I'm especially in the system and how much I learned and knew about the playbook and everything. I really started feeling like fit in. My dad and my mom, my friend, my dad from Cleveland, one from Youngstown. And I just grew up watching a high state, but that would always turn around. You can't go that deep free. Yeah. It's a great honor. I mean, this is RBU. And it always has been since I was growing up watching them. So to be the next one in line, potentially, you know, I got to work for it, but you know, it's a honor. And I'll take it. I believe in it. You know, there's a lot that goes with that. So the first one I ever watched. So I was. Is he for sure? Yeah, that's where I'm when I saw watching this. Is it? Is it? James, can you describe the intensity that Coach Lackle expects from you guys and practice?

1:22:14How does he get you guys to ramp up and stand around? Is he hard to please? Is he hard to please? I don't know if y'all saw a little bit today, but he is definitely on us all the time on team. But he always says like today, he encouraged me about my finishing. He said everything was good, but he's like, you got finished more. He said, I'm gonna make you great. So that just shows that everybody's gamers always something to do better at. Always something to improve at no matter who you are, how highly talented you are. The abilities, there's always something that he's going to nitpick on. He's going to push you to get better at it. That's going to bring out the best of you in every situation. For the first meeting in World World, I'm the big one. You got better at just what it is. You said first meeting him. For first meeting in World, I don't mean that. I got to know him. He came down to the campus in Antonio. Same way he is now. Yeah, I mean, actually playing under him. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, wait, you got that question one more time? Yeah, I know it was. What do you do when you're a single couple that can't learn? It's your game. It's just from working. One thing I learned is definitely my tempo, my speed,

1:23:16and then off the field things, like just being the guy I'm supposed to be and being a leader, pushing myself in every situation I can and be better. He really just, he really pushes that aspect of just being better every day because he always was sick to that same standard. You're obviously in a position this year that you're going to be like a featured part of the offense where it's last year you were taking your time learning behind your A&B win show. How does that hit you? Is there a pressure with that? I guess what is kind of your emotions surrounding the potential to be a real patient person? No added pressure at all. I knew that I had to train Q-Werner. I was like, okay, I just got to learn it. So I had to take that patience with it, but no, your time was coming but you just kind of waited. I've been waiting for this. Of course, like I said, I still got to work for it. We got great backs in the room, but just holding myself to that standard every day and pushing myself to be better. My first rating was, you know, it was going in the last year. It kind of been trash time you ever made to meet. My club duty, et cetera, et cetera. Like you said, you haven't really gotten your show. What you really all about in a game field, anyway, let it out.

1:24:19I was just a maturity thing. You got to mature. You got to know it was like, okay, I got to win my turn. You know, there were both great backs. And I knew that I got to take up what I can from the situation. So that was all just taking what I had in what I could from the situation. Honestly, I leave that up to y'all to describe. You know, I know my game. Of course, this season, this season, they started. But I definitely say I'm like a slasher kind of back, but I'm going to let them see all the design. One Texas recruits in the Florida Channel Highest State. Why do you think Texas football compares you for the highest state? You work, what? I think Texas is the best ball. Some of the best athletes out. So especially in the run-up acquisition, because this is like that. So I mean, Texas, the coaches and how we prepare. And I know we like, there's not every state, you know, you got all season football, all season. So I just feel like the development and the coaches and stuff like that. I mean, just great players all around, but guess there's a trend.

1:25:19You mentioned, though, how about Terba Rogers? What have you seen in the past? Terba, Terba's not here yet. Isaiah, Isaiah West. Isaiah West is another guy. Yeah, he's recovering. He's paying attention, but Terba gets here. He comes in this Friday. He's going to be here this Friday. How about Isaiah? Yeah, Isaiah, yeah. He's been a guy. He's really dialed in, you know, more matured in the mid. There's age, he may be right now, because, you know, he's healing. He's getting better. I'm pretty sure he'll be back for a fall camp so we can see him shining. Thanks, James. Thanks, James. You're welcome. Yes. Right garden, one garden. He's got a little bit more opportunities to be able to do it. He's just talking about a lot of things. Which is, you know, something that's going to be exciting. Uh, being, obviously, need to be versatile because last year, people went down. And like, you got to be ready with your numbers called, obviously, because we had Seth go down, get Jimmy go down. And like, you always, you got to be ready 100% of the time. Otherwise, you just got to be ready.

1:26:19You guys being there for a different month, you got to be ready. Yeah. Well, seeing that throughout all the guys on the list. I would say like half the line is doing that. Okay. I'm doing this. Can you be come from Michigan? I feel like that's not too common for a Ohio State player to come from there. What does that experience like? I would say it's not. I wouldn't say it's that crazy because I grew up in Michigan State fan. But obviously, I committed North Western because I never got, I never got really like looked at by the Michigan State coaching staff. And then obviously that I, they didn't have like a great, obviously, my talker got fired. So obviously, and then Ohio State called me something like, you can't pass it up. So obviously, I'm here. What is your goal for this season in terms of your development and where do you want to be by sign fall campaigns in the season? Starts with just a little bit. I mean, I think the goals just get better every day. And just be what I need to be for this team to go in games. Where have you been primarily working this spring? What position? Right guard left guard.

1:27:19Right guard. I've been working on this for a couple of years. How have you changed physically? Last year, like, what? Wait, are you up to your desire to change physically? I got here because I came, I was in summer and roly. Yeah. So I came in at like $2.95 and now I, this is like consistently free for the team. No, I imagine I tried to be away free for the team. So you play both guard spots, I think you're saying, right? Okay. That seems like everybody would talk to you as multiple spawns. As you were saying, you need to be, you guys learn last year, you have to be a first one. Yeah. You had to be a little more about that if you would. Obviously, because it's not good when you're all American center goes down last year. But obviously Carson was a really good asset. So he started the year before, so he's really good. It's not like we had a big drop off. So we always got to be ready. If you obviously could lose and catch Friday, the guy you've got a world of relationships with. If you had any year's on campus, but then someone coached, bowing comes in and they often see the coach jump. And they might know you knew from Purdue a little bit at least. Well, always a like to hear that he's coming to be like, oh, at least a familiar name that I kind of already know. It's good seeing familiar faces. And yeah, obviously I like both of them.

1:28:20So it's, I mean, it's not really drop off. It's right. So it's good. Especially at very, very, very set of moments. I really like calling out. I just walk out. I'm just going to go to the point. It's like Mike's busy over there. Jerry's gone. I'm going to say any other rest of you. I'm going to go to the other side. You know, I don't really let it get to my head because, you know, like I'm here. I got dudes in the room that are like, IGB, you know, he's going to be a three-year start. I got to main personal American. You know, he's going to play this year too. So I can't let what people say on the net, you know, get to me because, you know, anybody can say, oh, he's going to play this year. But you know, I actually got to prove it. So I just got to come out here, you know, work, you know, in that spot. What's the most important thing you've learned so far in your three months here? Compete, never did. That's the biggest thing. Having to compete, you know, these guys appear to be, they take winning and losing to Hart. So, you know, my first, my first week up here when we did our competition, you know, I was winning. Then I actually, I got that first loss on my belt and, you know, it kind of opened my eyes. Like, these guys take it to Hart when they lose.

1:29:21They don't like it. So, you know, I kind of got that now where I don't like losing. You had the opportunity to be around the team for that CFP run. What did you learn from just those few weeks seeing this team make that run? You know, being real tight with your brothers, you know, they're real tight. You know, they push each other, you know, it's a real brotherhood. They don't let nobody down. They always got each other back. So, I mean, it's a new team now. So, you know, we got to build that chemistry with each other, you know, just get tight. And I feel like when I was there for that playoff running and I practiced, when they were at the National Championship, you know, I just got to watch, you know, how guys are, you know, real locked in. They're close with each other. They're not letting nobody slack off. And, you know, I feel like we had the opportunity to do that with this team now. How did you handle losing? You handle that first loss. That first loss, you know, it kind of got to me. It was the IGB. You know, he, you know, he let me hear. So, after that loss, I was like, nah, I can't let this happen anymore. It's because it's like, now it's not high school where you 17, 16 years old.

1:30:21And if you lose, you lose appearance. No, if you lose, the coach will see that. So, and they're going to see how you respond to it. So, I feel like I had to, you know, open my eyes, I had to go, go in there and lock them like, yeah, I can't let this happen anymore, you know. So, I got to go up and, you know, these guys are counting on me too. So, it's really important that I don't lose. If you had to describe yourself as a competitor, how would you do that? I'm a great competitor, you know. I like winning. Who does win like winning? So, I mean, winning is, it's in my blood. You know, my parents taught me that in a young age, you know, going out there competing for anything that you want. And I feel like if you can go out there competing for, you know, it's yours. And if you can compete for it all the time, who's going to take it from? So, I mean, I'm a good competitor, I'm always going to go out there and try to take what's mine. If it's out there, then anybody can have it. And I'm going to be the one who's going to get it. There's some roles in your room, obviously. Are you a talker? What would your natural resources be? Yeah, I mean, it could come out on me, you know. But I don't really, I'm really going to my game through the talking for this part. But, you know, if it gets there, it gets to that point where, yeah, I can bring it out.

1:31:21Because, you know, regardless, I'm not just going to let nobody just come out here and just, you know, catch balls on me. So, if I'm having a good day when I'm consistently getting T.B. News, yeah, I'm going to talk. But, you know, being in that room, you kind of got to talk. You know, the Jermaine, you got IGB, you know, those real talkers in that room. So, it kind of makes you want to bring it out. And, you know, when you bring that out, that just brings energy out of the whole defense. And when you got the whole defense clicking, I mean, you can see what's happening. Is there anyone that's kind of, like, competition in the records? IGB. It was during the winter. We were doing, you know, just stuff on the field. We were just, just having the time on the field. Just a lot of competitions. So, I mean, he just kind of, it was a day where, you know, they had us going up against just the freshmen. And then they kind of threw us in there and the fire against the older guys. So, we had to, you know, we had to wake up and, you know, we all kind of lost. And then we all kind of, like, we all kind of came to get that professional group, like, what are we going to do about this? You know, some of their kind ofness to step up in those roles. Yeah, kind of, you're welcome to call. Yeah, definitely, definitely, definitely, my welcome college moment.

1:32:21You know, you know, just, just showing that, you know, it's real now, a mental Ohio State. I'm not in Houston, Texas, no more in my school. Far from my family, you know, I got to wake up, I got to grow, I got to mature fast. And, you know, I just got to get ready for the next level. You've mentioned high school a couple of times. How did, you know, grow it out there in Texas, playing at that level? How do you feel like that helped you prepare a real Ohio State? I feel like it prepared good, you know, I feel like I went to a powerhouse in Texas. We obviously ran the Houston area, you know, we've been running the Houston area for a long time now. And I feel like, you know, we're a real college program. We live just like these guys who do the same lifts. You know, the level of ball I played, the highest level of ball in the Texas 6A. You know, we're going against guys like Dunkin' Bill, North Crowley, those top schools, you know, receiving the Coyote more I go against him. I want to get some three times in my career. So I mean, those that really prepared me for this level, you know, coming in like, okay, this is not where it's a little school where they don't believe that I can come in and make an impact. I came from big schools, so they're counting on me to make an impact because, you know, I think, I mean, everybody would say Texas is one of the highest football players in the country, you know, they go as Florida and they're probably Georgia.

1:33:31So I mean, they're counting on me to be ready and that level of ball prepared me real, real well. How'd you do against DeCory? You know, it was when lose, when lose, you know, I went something, he lost something. So I mean, it's just getting better on Shob and Iron because, you know, he's the top receiver, obviously in our class. You know, I feel like he's going to have a good impact at Oregon. So, I mean, it's just what's going to happen next. Looking forward to seeing him again? Yeah, definitely, definitely. And you know, I plan on planning against him. We don't want to see him this year, hopefully we'll see him in the big team in the championship. So, you know, I want that rematch, man. DeVa, you committed super early in the process six months after that. You shut things down when, quite frankly, someone of your caliber didn't have to do that. You could have, you've seen kids play the game a little bit longer than that, but you chose to not do that. It's kind of a lot getting here. Why? You know, because this is what I felt, this was home. You know, I didn't really feel like, you know, standing Texas was a good thing for me. I didn't feel like that was home for me.

1:34:31Up here, I just thought I was home, you know, because of all, and because they, you know, they're making it, you know, making me feel important up here. And then, you know, like, you could ask, because how many times I came up here, throughout my high school career, I came up here at 13 times. So, it got to the point where I was knowing the guys on the team. I had the numbers just like that. When I come up here, you know, I don't got to always be able to coach as I can go chill with some of the guys on the team. So, it was just me, you know, knowing what I want to play in my college ball at, you know, where I felt like it was home and then, you know, it was also my parents too, you know, my mom being, you know, feeling safe that, you know, I'm up here, you know, I'm handling the business and not having to worry about me when she goes to sleep. I should listen to everything, and they were with me, and just easing their mind. That's the biggest thing, easing their mind. They're all, they're worried and everything, but they'll be okay. We saw the play with Elijah Moller, and you were head and drumming. Say it again. We saw the play practice. Did you think it would be up for two weeks after that? I mean, I was good pretty much. It was that day that I was kind of had a headache and everything,

1:35:34but I was pretty much good after that. But it was just about going through the protocol, and I mean, there was no rush back. We weren't playing regular season games, so I mean, I was just really getting the time to heal. It wasn't any rush. You both already had, and still had, you know, a helmet to helmet. From your perspective, it has to be an expert. Are those doing what they're intended to do? You know, you got to take care of it when he got to, you know, I'm saying, like, guys are still getting concussions and getting their wearing. Yeah, it's definitely still a physical sport, so I mean, concussion happened regardless. I know if you were in a Guardian cap or not. I think it could be looked at too. I know, and just talked about it on the Guardian cap. I don't think in the back that it's much padding is, is I would like, but I feel it could be looked at, but I think you get a concussion whether you were in a Guardian cap or not. So, I mean, stuff happens. This is a physical game. Sorry, would you just clarify this? You said you're going to get any income, and you also wear the Guardian cap during the games?

1:36:35No, I'm not going to. You feel good about this game helmet that you've been using. Yeah. Yeah. That's what you name and the brand of helmet. Like any details you have. Oh, I'm not sure the brand of name yet. I have the get it from those guys inside, but you guys would definitely be seeing this on the... And how do you feel about not playing in a preseason game? You had to say you're a career where it's not a big deal. I want to say it's not a big deal, but I don't feel any pressure any, like, oh, I just needed to play in a preseason game. I feel that's a great opportunity for the younger guys to get out there and showcase what they're able to do. Well, I still been practicing and playing and working out and getting ready for the season. I know the game, I'm looking forward to that first game. I'm not really concerned about not being able to get a snap of the preseason game. What do you think of how MJ did feeling in the... Particularly during the joint practice against Jefferson? MJ is the number one corner. You guys see it. He's going to be big for us this year. I think that's what's special about this team. We got three number one corners myself. MJ and Greg, I feel we all are number one.

1:37:36We able to do different things out there on the field. And one guy is out, another guy can step in and not lose track or not lose pace on what we got going on. How do you think MJ has grown as a leader in the early of the year 3 and he's trying to pick on this world? As a guy that's bringing energy and also trying to bring the ball on. Yeah, definitely. Like you said, bringing energy, bringing guys along. MJ is real vocal out there and he competes as he's in competitor out there and just working hard and trying to be the best. He got the mindset of wanting to be the best and he is. So we just go out there and compete with one another. We're happy to see CD Lam get his contract signed and be ready to go out there and play this game so you can face the better. I'm definitely happy for him. That's like changing contract and everything for him and his family. So I'm definitely happy for him and looking forward to having that match up in the game. I always love going against the number one guys and best guys on that team. So I'll be looking forward to it. It tends to look up more to history and concussions that we're talking about.

1:38:37I think when you suffer the latest one, people who cover the team and then fans are wondering how loud a discussion could you contemplate retiring? Every go through your mind or do you immediately know that you're going to come back? I said this is a game I love. I love playing this game. Being with the guys out here. I really don't see myself doing too much other stuff. Unless I'm just really physically unable to play this game. I don't see myself stepping away from football no time soon. So like I said before, I can't take it easy on these receivers out here. So me being out here, I got to give them a good look and just go out there and play. But I answer your question now. I haven't seen myself walking away though. Are you actually at a protocol now? Yes. Hey, did you know Greg called Miles Harden this deal drafts? What did you see? Say it again. It's all right. Greg called Miles Harden this deal drafts. What have you seen from him or the camp and what kind of excites you about him? Yeah, Miles. He's been balling.

1:39:37He's been showing all making plays against the Vikings and just making plays out here. So it was big for him to make the team. I was happy for him. We all congratulated him. And he's going to be a big piece on our team to come and going forward. I didn't know. I opened another rookie. You mentioned making the receivers better. How have you met Jamari talked about how you've helped him as a rookie? What have you seen out of him in his development? Yeah, he's been looking good since he came in. I think he's been getting better and better. He's night and day from once he came in. So where he's at now, I believe. I think that's just his competitive nature and what he's been doing out there in practice. And that's going against one another out there. So he's been good and he's going to be a big piece as well. That's where offense. What's your tip? What's your tip? Do you give receivers? How can you help a receiver? Yeah, I mean, it's a constant communication. If I were to win on a red, they may come and ask me what it is that you've seen on that play that you're able to get in position. And I'll tell them that. I may ask them a question. So it's just that constant communication on how we can get each other better. Thank you guys. Thank you.

1:40:37Thank you. Thank you. Glad to be back. Thank you. I just... My ability with the ball. So I'm excited to do that this year. Something that I really showcase the first two years. So I'm excited to be with... It's something that I like to do. Quick game element. I've been just getting the ball on your hands. Like, quick game play action. More over the middle routes. It's a lot of different things that you can say that this guy's going to help that. But like I said, I'm excited. How would you describe the chemistry between you and Eric? How are you going? How would you describe the chemistry between you and Eric? We're getting way better, man. I mean, it was our first year last year. So it was kind of up and down. But that's what it comes with the game of football. So we worked a lot this off season. OTAs was really good. And we got up to a good start these first two days of game.

1:41:37We're getting extra working. But that's going to come with time. So I'm not worried about that at all. We both competitors. We both want to be the best. So we got to do something to be good. So what do you kind of notice at different? It's just like feel on the route. What do you kind of notice now that it's year two? But it's more natural. What do you mean? It's like, Eric, for you and you, Eric, you're just going to have to be good. What do you kind of notice? It's just like, it's more than that, man. It's in a fail. Everybody's good. So we just got to know what each other is thinking. Pre-snap, post-snap, coverage, where the wall's going to go. Just read. What read I am in an progression. Everything goes along with that. Just being on the same page, being, like I said, chemistry is built with time. So it's just little stuff like that that turns into big things is going to be huge. You caught one from Spencer Routland at A2. What are your early impressions from him? He's real talented. That's the first thing I've seen from him. His arm title is out of charge. He's a real natural feel out there.

1:42:37He's going to be real good. I want to see him in action. But from my first impression, he's going to be a real good player. It's going back to the sheet that you talked about all the different stuff you should do. You think there's still a lot more there for them? Oh, yeah. He hasn't really, I think this is the first year of being a receiver, too. Or really a receiver. In my opinion, we both are a receiver one. So I just be able to move around, run real routes. Feel like it's going to be a huge advantage for his saying. So it's a special player and I can't wait to see him ball. I can't wait to see him get more opportunities. You're going to see what he can do. I'm going to run real routes. He's just like an opportunity to run. Yeah, just getting more, you know, he hadn't really played too many plays in the first few years. He kind of just get thrown in there when he's getting the ball or when he's a decoy or something like that. But he's actually being involved in the offense. He's always been in, even on run plays.

1:43:38I feel like he's going to be a huge advantage for him to get a feel for the game. And be more natural out there. How far does a receiver like that should have been shed kind of the, you know, think of him as the deep threat label on them. So people just think of him as a deep threat. But he can do more. How hard is it to kind of shed that label or that perception? I mean, that's what life everybody is trying to label somebody as one thing or two things. But I feel like you can showcase. I mean, that's not really who you are, you know what I'm saying. As he gets more opportunities as you can see, you can see he can do more and more. That's what anybody on the team. So I'm excited, like I said. And for his huge opportunity, he's going to get this year. And this guy's going to be a big one for the Saints. Does this scheme ask for more blocking from the receivers? Is there more responsibility? Oh, yeah. For so. I mean, that's what I told you to. We both have to block. And I know we're not the biggest guys or the strongest. But like I said, we could want to be on the field. We got to be on the field for the play action plays.

1:44:38All those things. So we both got to go block D-Lime and block Lyon Blackers. But that's what coming football. So we both got to take that next step in our game. Is that somewhere there's like a payoff? Like you guys know you play from play action next time. Yeah, so it's going to be a huge payoff. Like I said, most of our office is based on play action. All the in-breakers, all the yards at the catch of a play. So we got to go in there and block. And like I said, take that next step and be able to be grateful for our team. Like Dan here? Oh yeah. So, I feel the weather out here, man. That's what I'm used to. Not using the war and it's out there trying to catch my breath. It's a great opportunity for us. Are you going to chance to see family and friends at all? So this is their football friend here? Not yet, but they're going to come by every song. Appreciate you, John. Thank you very much. I tell you, about the 19th and 19th years of old,

1:45:39what is your top score? I have a top score. I'll catch you on my record for a few minutes. But first, first time on my meta, we just found it really good. What do you think he can bring to the top? You know, we were top three. Top three. Yeah, so like, we've got lots of teams. We've got a lot of teams. We've got a lot of teams. What's the luck in it? What's the win like for you between California being out of the tournament? This is a little long. This is like, I love it. I love it. I hope you had just won it. Yeah, just with it. It's different being out of state recruit here. There's the one you were just a footballer. It definitely is. Definitely. So, live here. You're a new generation of recruits where I don't think anybody outside looking in real questions, the strength of your commitment. Like you're locked into a last eight, you send it over and over. But you're making visits around the country. You see other schools. It's almost a totally different mindset. What's that coach in the new aspect?

1:46:41How do you approach those other visits? And how do you communicate with Ohio State about them? What's been the message to the children? I just like the power day. I'm always locked in. You know, I'm still enjoying buses. Just being in the group. This is only a one-time thing. You know, for the students. Enjoy. The other school is outside of life. Yes, you know, you really are trying to get the flip. So, Ohio State. What does it mean to you want to take those? It was hand placement technique. And I think it paid off in the game. How did that sort of impact the game plan when you were talking about moving away from skiing or working towards those fundamentals? How did that impact you in game? Yeah, it was definitely a... When you are playing D-Liamen, you can just focus on your man. Just get off the ball. I feel like it's a lot easier to play. You know that way. You just kind of like simplify.

1:47:42Not to say, I don't want to say simplify, but does it kind of make it so that you're not having to think too much? Yeah, you can say that. You can say that. Not think too much. Just more so, let's get off the ball. What kind of impact did working with Brian Young this past week have? The defense line as well? Met a big impact. B-Y, you know, obviously, a little bit. You know, we went back to the basics just on technique, footwork, just the fundamentals. And I think that definitely helped prepare this for the game. The Reels rotations on the defensive line different this week. Just getting maybe more plays to sequence together. So I kind of rotate them all. Yeah, it was more so, you know, six plays. If a guy gets tired, it's rotate out. But it's a cool rotation. And definitely helped us stay fresh. Even that last drive during the fourth.

1:48:45Guys, we were just a lot fresher, able to rest the passer. So I felt like it benefited us. Is there also just a, you know, just like getting into the game flow when you're not, where you're kind of subbing in and out as much as you can? Yeah, so you know, you can get more to it rhythm. Oh, no, definitely. Cam, I came up with that sack in the fourth quarter. I don't know if it pushed him out of the football range, but obviously missed the football right after that. Like, Cam's obviously a leader on this team. When he makes a big play like that, like how much maybe does that give a boost of adrenaline? A big boost, because you know, that's OG Cam. You know, that's been his Cam right there. You know, all you look at and just smile. But it was a big boost. You know, definitely makes you get on your horse a little more. And just keep your head down and keep grinding throughout the game. That's key, I'm impressed to the way that he's kind of accepted his role this year. You know, he's not playing as much as he used to, but obviously, him kind of just embraced that

1:49:45and does it do anything for you. Yeah, I mean, I've been learning a lot from Cam, especially technique-wise. You know, I would ask him about just, you know, how I would look at his old film, I asked him about, you know, what was he seeing during this particular play. But I think he's an awesome leader. He welcome me in with Open Arms, come here, and you know, that's my guy. Yeah, when, like, some really time stands up front of the team, so like, I can play it up to my own expectations. Like, I will be better in the play. What does it mean when somebody hits the stack with a lot of people grew up watching him? Yeah, I mean, T-5, he had to, man. I mean, you know, every game it can be your best game. That's the lead. You know, but he came up clutch with a pick. You know, regardless of it all, he always finds a way to get an exception, on how he keeps doing it. But he definitely, I smiled at that too.

1:50:49It's like, you know, I watched him high school, really just his whole career. So it's an honor to be playing with him. Rizzie talked about kind of changing some things every now and then to make keep your body uncomfortable. What's the value of that from a player perspective? I think just in terms of, you know, staying uncomfortable, things that mental aspect, you know, going through a game, you know, things may not go your way. Just being in that uncomfortable state and always having the will to push him, fight through. How have you seen the changes with the benefits rather, of those changes that you're making this week, I mean, like, from practice, the schedule to your position, roles in the locker room? Yeah, I mean, I think we can see it, you know, during the game, we just watched film, I even know myself during the run. I was just in my hand placement, it was a lot better, you know, because we were just refining a lot of the smaller details,

1:51:49that B-Wi felt like we needed to fix. So I think it's paying off. And you also talked about a competitor, a minute ago. From you all side of the ball, obviously, up there, big round rising on the past week, and the confidence boost from what you get from this win. Oh, a lot. I'm a lot, I feel like we, you know, we're talking about... And to be, and to be, and to be more disciplined, you know, and really focus on those, focus on those attributes. And I know if we do, you know, that will carry over to a guy who's being successful in the field. Being such a veteran, how have you seen social media packer career in the last few years? Well, it's impacted quite a bit. Yeah, it's very interesting, you know, and it's taking me, you know, I got a, you know, while I get used to all of it. I'm not saying I'm great on it, but... You're on the Twitter? Yeah, but I'm on Twitter and all that good stuff.

1:52:50And so, you know, it's been fine. But it is, it is having an impact on recruiting, for sure. The differences between the style of offense and the way it states it, the most spread out, how does that affect you? Well, that's a great question. I mean, that was probably the biggest transition for me, was just, and one of the most exciting things for me, was being able to be a part of this offense, because Coach Gundy's offenses have been the best, some of the best in the country, period. I mean, they've been awesome. So, I wanted to be a part of it. But with that, it was, you know, it can't just stay, we were, you know, ground and pounded, and we were a lot of quarterback on game somewhere. And also, just taking as much time off the clock as we could, so we could keep the ball away from other defenses,

1:53:50you know, for other offices. And so, just slowing down and that type of stuff. So, here was playing fast and getting guys to, just teaching my guys to, you know, to get up and make the calls and get the points, and that was different. But that's kind of where I was going to, where I was, you know, where, hey, I just, being able to resource Johnny and Marcus, hey, you know, how do you guys do that? You know, what were some of the things, you know, and Jason Meckendood was really helpful with that as well, you know. So, but it's been a great transition. It's been a great transition. How does your job in a new goal with Sean Wilson, depending upon who wins the quarterback job, want to maybe work over with the other, what is that kind of work in relation to playing? Well, it's been great with Sean. Sean's awesome. I mean, I've said that Sean's got a vision. He knows where he, what he wants, and he's very passionate. He's very intense, very detailed. And so, you know, he knows exactly where he wants this offense to go.

1:54:56And so I'm really excited. I'm really excited to get a chance to work with him. And the whole offensive staff has been awesome. You know, Waz and Casey and Matt have all been great. So it's really good. Touch Gundey talking about trying to work for you, who can't escape before it, obviously, at this time. But those pitches, like in those conversations that I did with them at those times. Well, I mean, it was great. Coach Gundey's, you know, he's, he was awesome. And so, it just circumstances, just, for whatever reasons, just didn't allow me to be able to do it. But, but, but I'm just grateful now for this opportunity. I'm just grateful to gaming call. I guess that's one thing I am very grateful for. I'm very, very thankful for that he, you know, he gave me that call. So I'm very, really excited to be here. It's very inspiring, you know, me and Dany were pretty close, like they talked to him a lot. So, you know, just seeing him move from guard to tackle and just make such a huge jump

1:55:57in that little time was just really cool to watch. Carter, especially the three primary coaches you're working on, do they all speak the same language if you follow my drill? I mean, yeah. Who do you listen to most, I guess, in those kind of situations? You know, they're all from different places. So, at first, I think it was a little hard for them to mention the one that will link up. And now they've got it down packed. They're all to the same exact thing. So, that's been helping a lot. I mean, obviously they can explain stuff a little different if you like them too. Yeah. But they've been, they've been doing a good job of keeping everything together. And Coach Dickin, in particular, what's he brought? What's he brought to you? What are some tidbits or, you know, things he's brought to open your eyes a little bit? Um, just let the little older play saw. I could say he's not like too fancy on all the technique stuff. Yeah. So, I like just how straightforward he is with all the technique stuff, for sure. Just very straightforward. I know you know Luke pretty well, both of you in from Toledo. How have you just seen Luke grow here so far going into this year? I think, um, I've been watching him for a while. You know, I've known him like you said. But I've just seen him grow as a leader. It's been really cool. Just seeing him a while back, you know, I think all the software he's seen here. We always played in each other. But seeing him move into that, that leader role has been really cool to see.

1:57:00What kind of leadership is he bringing to that leader right now? Uh, just always talking to the younger guys, then encouraging us, you know, tell us what we need to do. And not only the younger guys, but the other guys just encourage us as a whole. And what does his story mean to you? I mean, obviously this time of year ago, he wasn't even sure where he was gonna fit in or whatever. Now, I've said, especially through the playoffs, he was a force. I mean, what does it just tell you about perseverance, but also a season? I think it really just never give up. I mean, obviously you might not start the first game. Maybe not even the second game, but you can always make an impact if you really, that's your desire. Who you've been leading on? So that's gonna be a little bit of a team. Nice car. Kind of teaching the ropes and kind of teaching tricks and tricks. Here's the trade. Who, you know, all the offensive lines I'm gonna help you. I would say Austin and Luke a lot, you know, I talked to them for your offense, especially about technique stuff. Austin's been playing a little different places. So he's been helping a lot of my small technique things. Just what to do for sure. Is it the small stuff that is a big adjustment from playing top quality? Is that really what kind of meant to me? Yeah, it's definitely the smaller stuff.

1:58:01There's like, you know, hand protection stuff like that. Nothing to address it. So it's been good. The trade just hasn't been too crazy. Exactly what positions have you been rep? Only a left tackle. Yeah, so far. You feel pretty comfortable there. I hope very comfortable. Yes. These are grown men you're going against. Kinyada and Kaden are like 22, 23 years old. Yeah, yeah. Obviously, that's a lot different in the high school you're playing what 16, 17, most 18. So it hasn't been a lot different. I first co-practice were my best. I've definitely adjusted pretty well this spring. Two more questions. I asked Jay about some kind of sampling. You guys obviously coached my list very close. He came up to lead a handful of time and then all of a sudden, by the time you get up here, he's gone. How's it been getting them to move on? It's been really good. You know, obviously we had all the freshmen out of really good relationship with coach Fry. You know, men seeing him leave was actually a little hard. But we all kept our minds open with coach Bowen and we're liking him a lot. We've been developing relationships with him and he's been really good to us so far. Good. All right, Carter. Thank you.

1:59:01Thank you. We're going to tie the end and then we're moving it right in back. So we're diverse to tell you who baby do a lot of things. Big body guy that gets the bar. You can't run between the tacos. His feet are quicker than what you think for a big guy. He got really good feet. We get balanced so that's what makes him good. That's what I saw. Is that a comment for a bigger back like you have? Is it a possibility? No, I think it's probably a good way to bring back some tight end background. Well, tight end background. I don't know many with that type of background, but he's a high school student. They try to play as an H-Bat. Well, really good player. What do you look in the portal for running action? We want to try to recruit running backs. Does it matter to you if you have two different styles of running backs? Maybe one guy can do certain things better. One guy can do certain things better. Or is it? He'll just take the best running back. You can find it. Do you want to have different styles? Yeah, I want different styles. I'm going to try to take the same thing. We don't take the same thing. We want to take guys with different students. Whether they're big guys, small guys, tall skaters, in-between attacking runners.

2:00:02I don't know. I don't want to take the same thing. They're all different. Different backs. You guys have built a wheel and clinch on them a lot of their slower red zone story. You guys are doing a hard work. Did you get all the fun back in the magic size? Did you see the hardest opening? I don't know. I have my own opinion on the size they've been in the company of red zone. I had Jordan James out of order. He's my red zone running short yards. I was a freshman in probably way to 2-10-2-5. Which is not very big. But they ain't got anything to do with him. Some guys just got a mose sticking about in his own. And you play with a lot of aggression down here running. That could be CJ, that could be James. Or it could be the freshman, though, Jackson. It's just who has no one to get in his own. That's where I'm going with him. You don't have to be 62-24. No, just because you're being there, I don't make a problem. We knew we got to obviously, you know, freshman running back to coming in.

2:01:04But what is there here? What do you need to see from a freshman to feel comfortable with that playing? The first thing they do with that on the ball. What do they do with that little small detail? Take care of the ball. The second thing will be how good they are in the past. Because that's the hardest thing for high school back. Because they're not really during high school. They have to understand the past. But all their falls on who? Me. So, like Coach Day said, I'm in the past, my heart. So, that's why I need to see first. I guess I would understand the weaknesses of the ball. You feel comfortable with Bow and Isaiah, whether at or at least, you know, whether at times. Yeah, I think they're going to be fine. Like I said, I tell all the young guys, he's a marathon match. The first thing they're going to do, first you've been in the arm, and then spot on specialty. You know, you're in spot on specialty. Then you earn the right to be a buck out, I'll be. So, get out there in the field. So, I think they're turning the right towards you.

2:02:04It was your first practice. Not it wasn't there. It was something to build off for them. I couldn't stop the work on it. Long day. It's on the wall because they kind of just show us that we are kind of like, like, satisfied with what we have. And we're definitely still hungry. Still won't win. I'll take it. He can take it. Oh, yeah. I mean, yeah, definitely. I mean, every day just having somebody to push you would want to be better and having those conversations. I mean, definitely going to need them. So, I mean, we definitely kind of have to have them in the stretch. And it's just great to have them on. I mean, his personality is definitely from Idaho. So, it's different. So, it's getting to learn him and his experiences and his culture.

2:03:04So, it's kind of fun to get to learn about him. And he just brings a different personality and just a different mindset. So, it's fun. What does somebody do for you? It's just, I mean, he works really hard to tell you that. So, he's just a ball player and he's working every day. It's just like having that in the church of your own. It's definitely love Coach Patricia. He definitely brings lots of the table and he definitely pushes us. And he definitely knows what that next level mindset is. And he's kind of building it to us in a day by day. What do you notice too that he's brought specifically maybe steamwashed or whatever you want to come up with? I mean, he's definitely just helping us play better, faster, stronger. So, I mean, it definitely helps us kind of push ourselves and it helps us get better day by day. Yo, I'll come in this in a transfer pool. You can be offered to still be here. Imagine you get that question from some people with this face. I mean, honestly, it's because we love Coach Jay. We came here for the coach and we knew he wasn't going to leave us. And we put all of our face in love into him and he put it right back in dust.

2:04:05Does it feel like it's paid off? It's paying off. Yes, I do. Because here you are leaving and it's paying off. I definitely have no regrets. I love Coach Jay and I love being here and I love the city of Columbus. Do you feel like the playing days hope? I'm just saying. I don't know. Maybe, I don't know. Going up again to do offends and tackle. How have you seen what you guys come along with? They're getting better every day and they're pushing themselves. And you can tell they're getting better with their hands. The other safety is you should get them out there. Come in there with everybody's doing. You can get some. I feel like that's communication that comes at time. Yeah, we got, I used to play with late the last year. So, that was a blessing to have him here and to have a year with him. But now, yeah, we got to learn to play with new people and continue to grow as a defense and have new people in different positions. Who's caught your eye in that secondary? This kind of making it a move this spring. It's turning out to you. I think everybody's done a really good job. I'd like the lot, what Leroy Roker is doing.

2:05:05Done, he's stepped up a lot and had a lot of improvements that I love to see. Jay, Leroy and Malik have played extremely well. Just love to watch those two guys continue to compete and continue to grow. And then outside those guys compete every day. Malik just got a strike off and he's been playing really well. So proud of him and what he's been doing. But those are the people that I would say. Just Devin Senchez looked like what you would call a five star. I mean, when he's out there and stuff, what you know what I mean? The guy comes in with a little bit of tar, you know, and he's back to a certain extent of what. And he's been up to a billing. How has he lived up to it, I guess? At the end of the day, even when I got to college, it really doesn't matter about your stars. You walk in and you're at the same type of stature as everybody else. So it doesn't really matter in terms of how would you walk in here with. He's done extremely well. He's learned a lot. He's improved a lot from day one to now. So it's been great to watch him develop and watch him get better. And he's made some exceptional plays and I hope to continue to see that.

2:06:08I feel like McIrry is helping grow as a player. What's your relationship? How is that going to develop at the time that you've been here with him? Very football intelligent, very football first mindset. And I respect that as a person just to be able to go and have somebody with the same mindset as me. Coach Wallen has been a really good help to me. And has helped me a lot on and off the field here. So I respect him for that. But Coach G is pushed me to increase and learn more football every day in our sport. Coach Matt, do you know what you're going to do when you're in your process? Not when you're going to. No, not before you got out of there. Did what about this new coordinator baby brings a new idea of stuff? How could you roll a change or revolve or just be a new parent? I mean, just being in new positions, the ability to play multiple positions in the secondary, playing Don and stuff like that,

2:07:10being put in different positions that I wasn't maybe put in last year to have different things on the field. I think that's a great thing. Always good to have versatility as I said and something I promise I've also looked forward to. Yeah, Coach, are you feeling good while you're in the office? You have to be in the office and you can get more opportunities with your players. That's a good day at Coach Hark's hands, so I don't really think about that. But if I get the chance to go back there, it'll be on and I'll try to pick another play. It's a light walk thing every day. It's been, it has been kind of weird to walk in here and see all the different pictures that they put up. Even the three from the play also. It's been great and then they have different pictures inside and everything. So it's been good. It's been good. It's been eye catching where you walk by. We just accomplished that, but it's a great situation to be in. You might have been asked for a few guys a couple of you kind of wanted some of the fans to take it down with the issue. Because you haven't achieved anything yet. Yeah.

2:08:10You think one of the leaders is kind of like that. I mean, I think that's, you have to reset at some point. And I think at some point we had like, in the weight room, we had like, national championship stuff up there. And it was like, I mean, this new guys that walk in here, we have earned anything. We as the new 2025, 26 season, we haven't earned anything. So we can't really take credit for anything that is up on the banner. So we can't take credit for winning anything at this point. We have to compete every day with the mindset of we have to get better to be able to put ourselves in position to be. How the opportunity to get to that point. Yeah, what is the lesson learned from an accomplishment like that, Kayle, that you do carry forward? I mean, the lesson learned is you have to continue to work. Last year, every day we continue to stack bricks like you said and continue to get better every day. And I think that's why we came out to be where we were. And you can't just think about that from the moment that you get here in January and you start lifting in there. You have to continually push to be exceptional every day.

2:09:11And it's not really helping if you're just looking at stuff from the last year every day. You get the move pass. You have to keep going. But I think the spring has been good for that because it's been able to be allowed. We are turning to new leaf. We have different people in here. New faces and everything. And there's different people on the field. And they got to we got to make plays with who we are. Coach, Dave says you've been limited from participation standpoint to a certain extent, right? I was asked you want to go about the team. But what have you noticed about this team from a work standpoint of the catches your eye? Very competitive. I'll say people are trying to compete and push themselves every day. And it gets chippy sometimes. And that's always a good thing, especially on the defense. To have people that are willing to go there, willing to get to that age, willing to be physical. I really like to see that. I'd love to see it. And I mean, I think we just need to continue to be more disciplined, continue to work on our skills and everything like that. Continue to strive to be better.

2:10:12We can. Do you see that you're just not going to catch it? I mean, that's not what my eyes are. They ask, I'll do it for sure. That's not what my eyes are. The team that has so much turnover, you guys step up with the big rules. How big is it that's been to have a guy like Sunny and how much have you been to see him grow as a leader? It was last two or three months. Oh, it's been an honor to see just because we've had conversations about it and everything. About how both of us are going to have to step into bigger roles and everything like that. But to see where he's to see where we had those conversations to where we're at now, it's just honor to see the growth that he's been a part of and a proud of him. And he's going to continue to get better and to you to be the person that he's supposed to be. I recruited the other guys, especially on defense, but also on offense. He was a leader from the jump and being a buck I meant even more to him growing up in Columbus and Pickering, Tenoehile, his family of just great people.

2:11:15And this is a guy who overcame some things. He just didn't come in this freshman year and dominate, leaving three years and going to the NFL to be a first round draft pick. I mean, this is a guy who, again, I say it all the time, you know, wears a hard hat to work every day, brings his lunchpale to work and has the respect of his teammates. And you're seeing his play, he was talking this year. So I know who he wants to play at his best, this game, being a captain, you know, again, you know, in August having his teammates vote him in was a big deal for him. It was an emotional moment. And, you know, winning some of these games has really built him more and more confidence in knowing that this is what he wants. You know, he wants to win a national championship more than anything. And that I think represents our entire team. I just think that this year with the 12 team playoff, it's just been a little bit different.

2:12:27And there's a lot, everyone has their own story. And there's a lot of great teams out there. You know, a lot of things come into play when you make a run like this, injuries and just different things. So we'll look at it at the end of the year and figure out, you know, the adjustments that need to be made, I think internally. But I also think that, you know, we all need to look at, you know, how this is playing and what this means, you know, playing 16 games. I think it's a great learning opportunity to see what that, what that's going to look like moving forward. But I know it's been exciting for college football and for their fans. Yeah, I think they do a great job on offense coach Dembrox done a great job wherever he's been. Riley Leonard's an excellent leader. Jeremiah Love is one of the most talented backs we've gone against and they have a very good offense align. The heavens is really good at tight end and multiple tight ends receivers are weapons.

2:13:28So, you know, they're going to, they're going to challenge us in a lot of different areas. And so we have to play big 10 football. You know, that's what it's going to look like. And, you know, every play matters when you play in a game like this. And certainly against this team, it'll be the same way. Yeah, I think we built, we say this in all the time is that, you know, when you have momentum, you got to keep it. When you don't, you got to go get it. And, you know, we didn't have momentum at the end of the season. We had to create our own momentum. And then we started to build some momentum. And now we have to keep it. I think the ability for our guys to sustain throughout the season has been significant here. And now it's going to be the best. It's got to ramp up. And again, the goal is to play our best game and to finish the mission.

2:14:28But, you know, we talked early in the season about building a foundation for down the road. And just like anything else, you build a foundation of a building. When storms come, it has to withstand those storms. But now we got to finish. We got to finish what we started. And that's it. I think, again, there'll be time to reflect on some of those things after the game. Right now, we're just going to continue to look at Monday night and play in our best game. You know, it's been, it's, it's been enjoyable to be able to, you know, to start it off with the home game against Tennessee and then went on the road to the Rose Bowl to LA. That was an experience. And then, you know, so went through that and then went down to Texas and, you know, played Texas in Texas, which was very much like a road game. And so now we're into Atlanta. And we have a lot of guys on our team from the Atlanta area, from the Southeast.

2:15:30So for a lot of these guys, it's like coming home. So that's exciting. But it's, it's allowed, you know, our families and team to kind of be on the road together for the last, you know, month. But we just like, I kind of say like we're like train rats. We just come to work and, you know, figure out what the next mission is and get back to work that way. You know, that's just really what it is. And every once in a while, you've got to come up for air and realize that, you know, it has been a great run. And, but now we got to finish it. And so, you know, every once in a while, you take a step back, but then you get refocused on what matters. But to your point, it's, it's about everybody, you know, and certainly it all starts with the players and what they do. And I think the, you know, our energy has continued to grow. I think, you know, we talk about like the mental fatigue. I just don't see that with our guys. I think there's, it's only increased. The energy's increased. The focus is increased. I think our team is fresh right now, you know, I think, you know, if you had to, we could continue to play for a few more weeks. But, but that just shows you the experience, the maturity, the depth that we have.

2:16:32And I think that's all important. But, but we're not going to play anymore. We got one more left. And it's got to be our best. See that again? Yeah, yeah, we have, we have. And, you know, excellent football players with, you know, just great focus on family. And, you know, just, you can see how important relationships matter. And, you know, when you have an opportunity to recruit families and get into their homes, you got to feel for what that's like at home. And, and you can certainly see how, how, you know, in the Haitian community, family matters, relationships matter. So that when you bring somebody into your family and the football family, you know, they grab onto the culture.

2:17:34And, and it's been a huge asset to our team. Say it one more time. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, I got you. Oh, yeah, we're kind of, I guess that that transition has been happening the last few years, but you can see obviously this year. It's really accelerated. And the thing that's hit me is that, you know, we're, we're in the middle to late January. We're still playing. And, you know, some teams are, you know, starting spring ball on another week or so, you know, and so it's just very, very different. I think it's all things that we have to learn from when we assess what's going on, but it's been hard to take a step back and look at anything because, you know, you know, you have a short period of time to get back and win the next game.

2:18:40And, like every single ounce of your energy has to be to go win the next game. And then you wake up and you realize you're on to the next one. And so we're not there right now, but I know after the season, you got to wake up. What just happened, you know, and then we'll try to assess it the best weekend and make it better. I know there's a lot of things that we can do to make this all better. And, and I know institutionally, we'll continue to make those adjustments, like you said, and do things the way we've done before, but also adjust, but also, you know, I think in college football, we need to look and see how we can make this even better as it's gone on because every year it has gotten better. And I think it's great right now, but man, when you think about the potential on what it can be for the players and these teams, it's pretty extraordinary. Oh, yeah, that's it. That's it. And I think our strength coach, Mick Morati really, you know, symbolizes kind of what that means. He has this old school work ethic, you know, because the line's still the line and the cone's still the cone.

2:19:42You still got to have your football behind the line. You still got to run through the cone plus two, but there's so many other things now. There's sports science. There's GPS. There's a longer season. And so having to be able to adapt with those times is important. I think it's the same way with our program and how we run things and the tradition is not going to change Ohio State. And that's one of the reasons why these guys come here. It's one of the things we sell and recruiting. You know, is that, you know, just over a hundred years of football and the great teams and players that have come before and what the expectation and, you know, we have an obligation to be the best in a world of what we do. And that's the expectation, whether you're a player or coach and we own that we absolutely embrace that and and but then also adjusting with the times. And now we have a new playoff system in place. So, but all that being said, here we are. A couple more days before the game and we've got a chance to finish our season and finish the mission. And then again, cement ourselves in the history of Ohio State football as the 19 to win an national championship. And the third and over 50 years, a lot of good teams along the way. And that's been a message to our guys. And it's not about how you start. It's how you finish.

2:20:57Try not to get too much into those nostalgic thoughts because it's just it's a distraction. And there when you're in a game like this, it's easy to get distracted players and coaches. So, what matters is what we do on Monday night, how we execute, how hard we play. And that's it. And then after the game, I think there's a great opportunity to sit back and think about all those types of things. But yeah, there's a lot that I could probably go into if we were to sit back and talk about what Monday night means. But, but ultimately we have to we have to go into game. And that's it right now. So 48 hours out. I know a lot of people want to talk about different things. We're just going to focus on executing at a high, high level. Everybody doing their job and find a way to win the game in the fourth quarter. That's it.

2:22:16I think, you know, in life, you know, you have to work through tough times and it's how you respond to those tough times. And that's it. And that's been the message all along to our players. And it's not always how, how things happen in your life. It's how you respond. And I think our guys have learned a lot about that. And again, I said this before. I think there's some great stories to be told about, you know, what went on behind behind closed doors and, you know, some of the things that were said and, you know, the personal challenges that we had for each other and, you know, collectively the story. But the only way that gets told is if a banner gets put up a nobody. That's it. And that's the sobering reality of this game that nobody cares about what you go through. And you got to win that final one to finish the mission. And so that's it for our guys. And, you know, as much as some of these, these wins have been great wins for us.

2:23:20You know, to me, you know, it's about winning this final game. And so all that being said, I think our guys have learned a lot about life over the last month. I think it's been a tight group. We've seen the good, the bad and the ugly. And it's a special group of guys that care a lot about each other. And they're going to go on to be very, very successful moving forward because they're strong. They're loyal. And they're very mature. You're going to see, you know, 10, 20, 30 years down the road. These guys making an unbelievable impact not only on their families, but in the community and in the game of football. Yeah, it's it's football. And, you know, I said my wife all the time like that's we signed up for it. And, you know, it's the highs of highs and the lowest of lows. This game will take you to knees and give you some of the greatest experiences in the world. And that's it. You know, not a lot of people get to experience those highs and lows. And you have to manage the tough times and you got to enjoy the good ones. And that's it. And I think that's the best way to do it.

2:24:26And that's it. And, you know, the more you're in this game, the more you're going to realize that. And that's it. And those are opportunities to show strength. And that's it. So, you know, we're counting on that to make a difference on Monday night. Yeah, you got it. Yeah, that's it. And set a great example for the younger groups. One of the good things about having 145 guys on the roster is some of these new freshmen and transfers that are coming in get to see what it's supposed to look like. Get the C great leadership. If this wasn't the case, they wouldn't have an opportunity to see what you know, a mecca book is like Wilhawer, Travian Henderson, Lathan Ransom, Denzel Burke, you go through the list, Cody Simon. I mean, these, you know, Tyler Williams, you know, what does it look like? How do they prepare not only for one week, but but several weeks.

2:25:27And, and these, these guys are their men. They are. And the way that they go about their business, not only they love being Ohio State, but guys, but they love their teammates and all those things matter. And so again, they want to play their best game here and finish themselves and cement themselves so that, you know, when they come back, they can see that banner up there and have a big, old ring to show for it. So that's it. You know, we'll get back to the hotel here. Get back to work. Get to these meetings and focus on what matters right now. Yeah, hard to put in the words what a mecca is meant to this team or to me or to my family or to Ohio State. It started when he first got here. He had a different look in his eye. He's extremely competitive. No jobs too small for a mecca. He's selfless. He's really made it unbelievable strides in his life, but also just in his faith.

2:26:37And, you know, he speaks people listen. He's very well thought out. He's sitting on a conversation with a mecca book or you're going to walk away extremely impressed. And, but then when you talk about his play on the field, he's made a lot of great plays. He's been very clutch. He's been very consistent. And this is a guy I know who wants to finish his fish his career out with a great game one a night. Okay. I think when you're when you're starting out this season and you're putting a roster together, you have to start from this game and move back. And, and I think when when that happens, you have to build a team. I think now the big 10 has allowed us to do that with with the addition of some different styles of play on the west coast.

2:27:47And certainly the traditional big 10 play. It's a combination of being able to get big and strong and heavy and stop the run and run the football when it matters, but also being a spread out game where you can be in a little bit of a track meet and have the skill to play with anybody in the country. And I think that's the combination that you need to have. And, and that's the goal every year to do that. You know, when you when you need to go get that yard, you get that yard. It's time to get that stop. You got to get that stop. But also having the skill to be able to run with everybody in the country. And that's that's how we start. And then as the season goes on, we look to identify the areas where we have to get better or whatever that might be. But, but I think it all starts in the off season with our off season program and what MacMoraddy does. And, um, I think our our off season program when and I know it now because when I see players come from other teams, that's you get great feedback. You know, you get, you know, guys who come in from different programs and say, you know, talk to me about what your program is compared to our program off season during the season, all that.

2:28:48It really gives me confidence. No one were doing the right things. I think every year you learn. And I think, you know, to be to be, you know, to be honest, I think, you know, every year I learn and grow and figure out what needs to be done to get it fixed and identify the issues and be honest. And call it out for what it is and get it fixed and get it addressed. And that's what leaders do. And, um, you know, they look out in the horizon, see what's coming because the soldiers are fighting right in front of you. And that's what they are. And so what's coming down the road. And then obviously what, what areas need to get addressed and get fixed. And that always starts with, you know, who's in the right seats, you know, players, coaches and staff, making sure that's organized and then building it from there. And so every learn every year you grow to try to get better. And then, you know, identify it the next year and move on from there and keep growing. And we all have to continue to learn. And I think, you know, I've done that as well.

2:29:54Yeah. Yeah.

2:31:09You're seeing the best version of him now. Well, it's going to be a great environment. We know that great crowds on both sides. So it'll be electric. And so it's different than in the past where you kind of had these, you know, bowl game and then a final game. We, you know, these playoff environments now or something that, you know, we become accustomed to. And so we need to focus on what really matters in the execution and find a way to win the game in the fourth quarter. That's it. This is a team that continues to come at you. So we know what's going to take four quarters. It went all the way down to the last play last time we played him. And, you know, we have to be prepared for that. But, but that's it. Great environment. You know, and, you know, it's good to get over there today to have practice just to kind of see it again, feel it again. And I know our guys will be ready.

2:32:09All good. Okay. Thanks. One more question here. Yeah, I think he's built confidence as an offense, Aliam and throughout his career, especially this year. And he's become a leader for some front. And we'll need him to be his best in this game as well. Thanks. Yeah. Yeah. I mentioned this before that, you know, this is about these players in this game. And it's all going to be about who executes well during a game. That's it. And I think our guys understand that and feel that. No, there'll be a lot of conversation, which is great. It's exciting for the fans to talk about. But we know what really matters. And that's what our focus is on is executing at the highest level we possibly can.

2:33:11Thanks. Definitely as a competitor, that's something that you compete for to, especially as a team player, you know, to be at the top level to go to the playoffs and be in this position. So I wouldn't say I would have guessed I would be here in this position now, but definitely wanted to be in this spot. It will have been one of the best. We'll have the moment at the end of the game. He thinks about Jeremiah's same thing. He ended the play or in the game or the bubble. I mean, great play. How much do you think about that? What would you? How do you think about that? That's why would you play it? Come on. You know, that's past us now. You know, that game is past us. We're looking forward to how we can come up this week coming up and win this game. And that's all that really matters. You know, as a whole as a team, everybody has that same mindset, that same grit and that same passion. So that's all that matters. That might be 24, 7, 4. You guys had some pretty clear motivational factors coming out of Michigan going into Tennessee with three weeks of a lot of talk. How do you keep that same kind of mental edge now going into this game? Or maybe there's more people talking positively without you, things like that?

2:34:18Definitely, I would say everyone just keep the same mindset that we had going into where we are now. We all have a big goal in mind and we know what that goal is. So whatever it takes to stay focused, that's what we're going to do. What's the word? Which on the way that you and Tray found out the word for last week was that sort of the perfect design of what you guys envisioned a year ago, or you started looking at the South. Definitely. I would say, you know, our coaches do such a great job at that. It's just getting me in there in different positions on the field and just trade being the top player is. You know, whoever is on the field, you know, we're both going to do our job. So I would forward to it. Tony Gerberman, fuck I have. I'm trying to do you got games to focus on. I have you thought about what's going to happen next year where you're going to be? No, as I right now, I'm just looking forward to this next game and trying to win it all. Any help with Quinchon? Kevin Noon. Fuck I have. I know it's looking back, but we didn't have a chance to ask you. What's going through your mind on the first private where your first touch on is when the exchange between you and Will, when you and the ball on your wrist? What's the thought there?

2:35:24I actually thought he was going to pull the ball and I kind of felt it and I just got an instinct. So I just kind of grabbed and just took my best. Any help for Quinchon? Great. Quinchon. Thank you. KJ came cranking off the bar. I'm okay. Like this is the real deal. Sure. How do you take that? Holy crap moment and then go from it. I really just take that and I just I just think of the challenge. Okay. Like we got all these attributes. He got all these things, but can they get past me? Can they beat you though? So every day just working on that. Just getting better and better. Have you used them in all the strong race, tripping, throwing transfers? Yeah, that's my dog. We came in together and just like talking to each other about the process, especially when my coach riled up and I was like, you know, what are we going to do with me? And then we just suck through it and then me and him. I just talked to him every day. That's my bully and working on different things because he's at the left. I'm at the right scene.

2:36:28Things with different point of view. So it's been great. How's the transition going for you? I was going to be amazing. I feel every day get better and better. Going against the best every day. So you have to be on your A.K. and going to use news like CJ. That's my play. Just getting better and better and transition just not an hour. Half away from home. So this has been pretty good. You started for getting flat period and so those those what do you have to make you get within the number of those games? I think like for my role, I think I did just enough. Like as a person I am now if I was a person, I feel like I would have done lay better but just going into that role, helping that's helping Minnesota. Do we have to do and feel like I did just enough, but there's always I always do. Where did you see the first thing? Let's specifically. Pass pro and my first steps. Working on those things. I had to lift out the power. I just I was all over the place.

2:37:32And just every I feel like every game I was understanding how the game worked and how to attack how to be passive the how to work together as an online unit. Not just me but myself. You mentioned the first step. What about that first step? Really just make sure I feel powerful out of my stance. That was the one big thing I had to work on. Especially at my last school working on my stance. Make sure I can push off and like gain ground. And I felt like sometimes I wasn't doing that. Even mentioned that he had to lose 30 pounds when he got here. Did you have to change from your body at all? Definitely. I was three 20 coming in and I played at three 20. I feel great. And then they told me they want to be going down to three 15 and I was like, nah, I want to do that. I got three 15. I started running. I started. They started putting me on the meal plan. They started doing all this. I'm like, oh, I see the vision. Yeah, I definitely changed for my body. My arm is definitely getting bigger. The weight room. It's been amazing. I'm growing every day. It's hard every day.

2:38:37But I love it though. Like I'm getting work after practice after the weight room. I'm like, I can see the results and seeing the games. What is it like you leave a place? You know you're probably breaking some people's hearts back there. It's not that the scrapwood is like to make a move like this. You know what I mean? Basically missed a college career. What were you seeking for the event? It was definitely a big move. What was I seeking? Just development with knowing I can. I wanted to go and get some of the best dudes every day and coming here I'll be able to do that. Just a training program in the culture here and it's summer. Minnesota. So it was definitely like a easy merge. I think you had said you had really thought about Ohio State being an option. How quickly did this sort of emerge? What do you remember about just some of the people? I remember coach Fry call me when I hit the portal.

2:39:39He was one of the couple of first people to hit me up. I was going to go home anyways because I was going to go to my mom house because I fasted. When I hit the portal and make sure I was making the right decision. I was going to go home with my family and just talk about it. I was in a neighborhood of variety hour and half away. So you might as well just see what's up there. They show an interest and I was like, you know, I was with. You mentioned the transition from Fry to Tyler Bowen just what's been like playing for both of Bowen so far. I don't really know too much about coach Fry, you know, just a little bit. But what I was in here, I definitely saw like dudes that we developed like I can see it on tape. Not necessarily like really see that practice, but with coach Bowen. Every day just improving and he's just always telling me things. Little things I don't even notice that I need to work on. Especially with coach Johnson and coach Dickey. Having no story in the room is probably the best thing ever for you. Yeah, I thought we were where we wanted to be and when we were there we made some plays.

2:40:42He was accurate in the game, but we were close enough to make plays. And that's kind of what we talked about all day and the weekend and we execute. After the game, the linebackers seem to all say they felt like they had a really good idea of what he was going to try and do. Where he was going to throw the ball to whatever it would be in position. But did you go into the game feeling like what we have is a lot of good prep in this game? Well, we have some, I'm not going to cut you off there. We have some outstanding assistant coaches and they did a tremendous job. Right, Manalack with the linebackers. I was able to catch you new exactly where to be and how to be there. All the fears I have, I relate to them obviously. I thought Tim Dows that the line was incredible. They're all over the place and they continue to get better. And then you know, Archie Collins and Grace Anders, the secondary, was around them all day and did a nice job. So I give all the credit to those guys without those guys. We don't get it done the way we've got it done. They had them well prepared and all credit goes to them.

2:41:43Is success on defense 50, 50 thing 50, 50 film study 50 athleticism? I believe so. And I believe to like to the point I just made, you have to also have some coaches that can teach them what we want, how we want it in the game plan. And I think they do a great job of that. I have a game plan in my mind and I relate to the coaches and we all get together and form a solid plan. And I thought they got it to the kids and the kids execute it. Have you seen the smart guy just as important as being a bad guy? Absolutely. Being in the right place at the right time. Yeah, being in the right place. His interception was nothing more than being in the place he should be knowing what was coming. And same thing with low place. It seemed like in the game on Saturday night when SMU played against two, they seemed to utilize and seem on the perimeter. or screen passes or wide runs, things like that. Do you expect them to try to test, I mean, even though they're outside of my back here,

2:42:43it's just had three intersections last week, do you expect them to test those? Well, that's what their offensive is. I mean, they got great skill and great speed and the way you make it hard on the defenses to spread everybody out and make it be one-on-ones and you know, how run them, making this, those kind of things. So yeah, I would expect them to run the offense. They've been doing it for, you know, how many weeks. So they have a lot of success and I'm sure they will continue. Sean, my own Achilles, those new starters that you guys have written in the beginning of the year, where are they now compared to whatever we want? Well, I think they are doing a great job and they continue to get better and as, I believe the whole defense is continuing to just make a step each week and, you know, consistency is all that matters in college football. And it really does in life at 18 to 22 year old men and that's what we're trying to teach them. Jennings had a little bit of struggle Saturday night. What do you see from Jennings to cry as that game?

2:43:45Well, I don't know if he had as much struggle as, you know, the ball just came out at times but he was close in all those situations to make big plays. And I thought, you know, he made them, but then, you know, they had the problems either somebody fumbled it or he did or whatever. And, you know, you have games like that and I give them credit they didn't have their best game and still found the way to win. Not to get into too much specifics, but it comes into defending our views and how you guys look all over the last few years and looking much better out of the maybe work years ago. Would you have sure did that work to changing what you guys do or the players just giving you a better idea of how you want them to defend it? Yeah, I think a little bit of both. I think we're all learning as we go through the process and, you know, that has become just norm anymore. So, you know, you have to evolve and you have to change some things and we've done that and I think our players are used to it more because they see it more. So, probably a little more important that I have so much something to do with that.

2:44:45All Shons have great impact. It's been nice to have him back and he's done a great job and all those guys continue. It's nice to have a few reps off for some of the other guys because we're playing a lot of reps. All good? All right. Thank you. This is what I think of. It's all about the situation of your obviously. That's really a great process. As you go along with your strength practice, what have you learned from him and is it kind of what were expected to be the other ones? Just so for sure. I feel like in the recruiting process, he kind of let you know how he wants to control stuff and I feel like when you get here, it's a whole lot of level. He's going to keep coaching well. He's going to be hard on you. He's going to tell you what you're doing. Okay, he's going to tell you what you're doing along and he's going to push you to be your best. We've got a role. They have been moving all over. Yes, moving all over. Yes, sir. What was it like for you to be here and see this team win an national championship in the first few weeks on campus? It was crazy. I feel like I knew that they were going to do it from the beginning of the season. I feel like they always had the potential

2:45:46and then they came out here that did it and the freshmen we had an opportunity to sit there and watch it. So I feel like now we just got to do it again. What did you learn from that just watching about me? Just it's all hard work and it's just a bunch of guys and it's really a brotherhood and it's really just our family versus their family and we just got a person here and we got to win the games and give back to the men. Our timeline was saying that Carmellan ran in a really good leader and we're going so far here. What if they both been leaders for you and the every other team? They've been leaders just in multiple ways whether our column, we're in the film room together on the jugs. I'm asking them about this route, how I could run it better. I'm asking them how I run this route on this play just many different things. I feel like those guys, they're like big brothers and all that Dennis help me. A valuable is that to have guys that are in the play like football but also been in college for a while so we're getting good ask from them who's various things about college life. How valuable they are. It's real valuable for sure because they're fresh around pit guys.

2:46:47So I feel like just being in a room with those guys and if you're able to thrive with those guys, you know something's going good for you. What are your impressions of the quarterback? I get specific to Tavian. It's a fresh impression of him. What have you kind of known about him and learned about him? I always had a good relationship with Tavian. He recruited me hard to come here. So I feel like we always talked and he came here and he's been doing this thing that I've all been doing their thing and Julian's saying he's another Cali Kissel. I had a little relationship with him too. So good to see Julian, Lincoln, and Tavian all doing real good. What is that next step for you to play in terms of evolution of your game? What do you want to get better at? It's great. It's great. I just really just everything. I feel like you can never be too perfect and I feel like you just got to keep doing your job. So I say maybe just showing up more and just doing my job to the T. Going against these corneries with these DBs, how does that kind of lead you better in terms of the things they're pretty talented? At high school, in high school, I had a five-star corner DJ John Lee.

2:47:49He's at Alabama. So I always had good work with corner. So I feel like it's just a lot, I'm going against a lot of good guys now. I'm just saying that it's just being one on one that practice with DJ John. So it's real good for short. Does it take more courage to play the slot that I'm trying to do? Does it take more courage to play the slot that I'm trying to do? What do you mean by that? Because there's more stuff. But they think there's bigger injuries inside. You have to have a... You've got to be aware of it, but there's a lot of courage to do that. I guess you could say that. I feel like I just always play slot. And I feel like that's what I've been better at. So I feel like it's just what I have to do to be on the slot. No matter who's in front of me, how big he is, how strong he is, I feel like. If I got an assignment, I got to do it. I'm going to go out there and do a few things. OK, well, it's anyway off. The fact that the way this is, the difference has additions on every level. Talk about chasing the people to mine

2:48:49and the traffic there. You guys have willing to second level and the third level, who they go on with Sean and the rest of them. How much pressure is on the team fans to perform to the higher level of expectation and the rest of them? Right, I would say that last year was, you know, we excelled in certain things, but we're also trying to get back to where we were in the past. So we got some great additions, and we're excited for that. Ultimately, it's to use some of these guys to be the number one defense in the league, and that's always going to be the goal. So whatever we can do to utilize all the different talent that we have on this team to be the best and play as a team and to build the best chemistry that we got, that's what we're going to do. What's the answer about this offense? Just early this early in the game. What's the answer about that? Yeah, we're not used to going against the normal offense I have been the past three years. So it's been a lot more moving pieces.

2:49:51Definitely have to use your eyes pretty well, because if not, then somebody's going to be open. But I like what they're doing. I'm very excited for it. I just know it's making our defense a little bit better, because we're having to do different things, not just the normal offense we've been used to. I was going to say just because every other team has some variations that they were going to miss. Is that kind of, do you think that'll kind of benefit you? Because you've seen that more than the rest of it. I would say so. I mean, as the league has changed over time, I think they revert to certain offenses that do well in certain systems. I would say we're taking maybe a little bit pieces from other offense that we see to do well. So I like what we're doing. I mean, I don't know as much as some of these quarterbacks that we have on the team, some of the offensive players, but I just know it's tough to go against. I'm lowest at number last year, but still one of the top team scoring defenses. What do you guys really need to do to finish going to get after the quarterback? Yeah, I would just say place heavy emphasis in practice.

2:50:53It's always going to start in practice with getting after the quarterback, not touching him in practice, but making some good moves. And I would just say rush more. I mean, there's so much that goes into it. It goes with the coverage. Everybody works together. I would say that we had great numbers, but we are trying to get that number up. But the ultimate goal is always going to be the ball taking it away, getting off the field. We're putting our offense out there on the field, and we're staying off. That means that we're doing a good job. And you already asked about it for my competition standpoint. But from what the lecturers standpoint, having new wins tomorrow, we're going to be going to feel kind of a true okay to do for a defense. And the sky's the limit with this group. I do believe we have one of the most talented linebacker core groups in the league. So just excited what we're going to be able to do out there on the field. I think we all compliment each other super well. Bigger guys that are explosive. So I'm excited for it.

2:51:53We have our own excellent presentation. Yeah. Thank you, Judy. I learned so a lot. I'm right there. I think we're all trying to learn this together, even approach over on a little bit. And we're hitting the ground running. But it's exciting. Those two guys are especially in the field. What do you want to do to have the right to do? You didn't see what you're trying to put in the field. You're going to have the right to do it. It's hard to say. I would probably say the draft would have been mine. I was talking to some other schools, Miami, and USC were in there in the mix. But it was really, I would say, here in the draft at the end of it. There was a lot of different things at one end of it. It was a long, hard process. But yeah, I would say. I mean, that was probably the most likeable. When you first thought you talked to about the weight of the rack and the console. I mean, I was just going to be fine. How did the console play football?

2:52:56I mean, nothing crazy. You know, it was just. Oh, Jesus. Thank you. Appreciate that. It's a fighter fan. Do I really, really? Yeah, true. I'll count it out. Yeah. Appreciate it. Yeah. There you go, little sidetrack. But no, I was a question again. I'm sorry. Spider-Conswerer. What the? Yeah, no, it was. I mean, it wasn't really anything crazy, I would say. You know, I just, you know, nothing really changed. It was really kind of, you know, they were kind of holding me off a little bit. Just to fill after that game, just in fairness. You know, I was. I was patient and waited my time and, you know, it all worked out. Did it come to you? No, you just kind of make the point. It's hard to tell. I don't really know.

2:53:57It was a whirlwind of a process. You know, I started hearing initially they might be interested, but I hadn't really heard anything directly. And then, you know, really getting in like, I really started to feel that interest. Did come to you last year, though, there's a change coming. Good core data. Perfect. Right. A little bit. Yeah, I kind of figured that. I didn't know for sure, but he kind of hinted at it. And, you know, his point was, you know, it's in the best interest to him and the team. I was all in. I completely understood, you know, the decision and why he did it. Your conversation with the name, what was this event about your opinion, considering other scenarios? I'm not sure. Yeah, I mean, there were a lot of things that were said, you know, a lot of things that were attractive to me about this offense and about what he kind of thought about my name and how he thought he could elevate me to where I wanted to be.

2:55:02And, you know, I feel like one of the biggest things was how pro style the offense is. And, you know, a lot of these other schools that I was looking at, you know, maybe these air raid type schools. You know, they got great offenses. And, you know, I could put up a lot of numbers, but I don't know how much that would develop me to be out. And playing in a system that coach up Ryan, which is a music video, I don't know how much. How much better can you prepare for the NFL than with somebody who's coached at a head coach level and an important head level at the NFL? You know, it's just all the things pointed that you really want to come straight about over. That I'll be starting off with the reasons you do know, yes that's the reason we lost my position. No, I'm serious. You're good at thoughts in terms of how that systems operate? What about the word the species of mental strength

2:56:04which your kind of healthy lifestyle? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I was just more so you know just whole thing like I was saying just the other culture that's what I have and I recently just got here so I haven't found too much like different places yet because I've been trying to move in and be acclimated but I'm for sure for us a couple spots. What are your impressions of Will? I mean I know that Stan's you're gonna have a back feeling potentially transverse running back trans, for the back hat, I'm gonna be getting to talk to him I mean through this recruiting not recruiting process but trans with process. Yeah I mean when I got here you know me and Will we've always been in contact you know I've just taken on each other hanging out no matter what it is just having their personal connection you turn the off to feel you have a relationship so great.

2:57:04Did you ever hear me say official tries when you were talking about thinking about coming with you? Did you ever hear me say official tries about what you would say or what stuff that brings all the way to you doing? Like I said like I think with the time that I was in the portal it was such a shorter amount of time in the process so I think you know just trying to decide on where I wanted to go I wasn't really focused on contacting you. And you've been to Ohio? I have been to Ohio. You know where I was? Yeah but nobody was by there been so Yeah. What's that process like from life? From your point of view we're all out and what's that life in life? Yeah I agree. I think you know when everything's moving so fast you have to stay poised as a player and focus on the things that matter and that will put you in the best position and I think that's what it's really about for me in my process.

2:58:07What's your most terrible and tired move? What's that all about? I'm starting to think of what the main thing is that you don't care about. You know that definitely plays a factor especially in today's game with bystander friend Baxon and so I think that you know what I said the situation here just may be able to come here and contribute to this game and do what I can when it all. What did you mention? I could be for you and your interests. You know like I said, in any way that I contribute to the team and do what I can and show and execute that's what matters. You're giving me a good way to try to use the best of what I can. There's a lot of carries up there too. You like that and you think of that part of the curve. You know you said from the outside you had to go and you can't go there. Yeah and not just that team as well. It's many other teams that do the same thing you know. I think it's just really special that what they've done together, just seeing how they play together, how far they come and see themselves. It's really special to see.

2:59:07The not just that but how much carry the day in time last year and having a quarterback that can run or two running bags and then is that how much does that accept you to have a side field with that option on the hook? It's very exciting just to know we have so many weapons and so many different ways to win the game. So it's very exciting and I'm looking forward to it for sure. I don't really get the start of thinking about the trend in time and time. I don't think it's something that you more so just specifically think of. But I think it's something that's important in today's game that has to be valued as well. Did you feel like you were overused at old men's time? How would you describe it? I wouldn't really say overused. I don't think that's the word. I think you know just when you're playing you don't focus on those different type of things. You know what I say? There was much made though about using what you were having a meeting with coach Kidney who was something about the direction of the offense.

3:00:07How much of that was true or how much I would ever say it? Was that any of that true or just what was that old back then? I don't know. It's just a true one. But I got to say man like a lot of people they won't be happy when you make certain decisions for yourself. Yeah. Just a sign of being in. Did you enter it thinking Ohio State? I just walked up here a second ago. You probably went all over this but when did Ohio State get on your radar? Yes. A possible landing spot. Just in that chill maybe. Immediately when I got in the portal. I think like I say this is the place that you want to go to. A place where everyone's passionate and everyone wants to win here. It was a great culture and everyone is focused and doubted and into something that's bigger than themselves. Why wouldn't you want to go someplace like that? A lot of people are saying you and trivia and they're saying backfield and they even have it in Dallin in there. There's people running back through some in the country. Do you feel that way also in the wild?

3:01:09Definitely. I feel like you know with everyone in our room they contribute in their own way. Everyone is a great player in our room so I definitely agree. What's your thoughts about Ohio State? Did you review what it is? I just swear I like Ohio State. Yeah I think more so for me it wasn't about like this is where I want to go immediately but I think that I wanted to make my process pretty short especially when I got in at a later time. I think that's the way I've been running school so I think just more so just figuring out where I wanted to go and making that decision as soon as possible. Just like I say the meeting, it's what Coach Day, everything that I was showcased. This is just the place that you want to be. Two quickies, the name point shot. What works that come from? That was big info on parents. I know but I mean is there a background for that? Of course there is. But I really don't know I've never asked my parents that question actually.

3:02:10And then number two is a hairstyle. What's the juice? I came up with this hairstyle in a March of last year so I just decided one day I was like okay I want to dye half of my hair blonde. So I just went with it. I got a lot of great company so I can't put the same one. Blondes have more fun or have more run. I'll see more. I think that's the end factor each week. And the weather is especially good for us. It's a little bit more viable and it's been to have more care. Okay. I don't think that's the end factor. I don't think that's the end factor. She actually actually has more care. It is neutral. It's neutral. It's neutral. It's neutral. I think we accept that and break that. You know I embrace it well. That's what everyone here works hard for. And that is the end goal. You know it's not to get a certain amount of wins. That's the goal. That's what everyone here for. To win the national championship. So I take it seriously. Everyone here is already in. You know, whatever it takes to get that in.

3:03:11That's what everyone is trying to do. You're going to accept that. You're going to accept that. You're going to accept that. Let me know if you want to make it in the next one. I have a player like Tony and Bill would do it here. And I have a company that would have probably used kind of put all that all of them in the background. You know you don't focus on things like I say. It's an important thing. It's kind of football especially for me. The NIL that wasn't like something that I was focusing on. I was just going out there playing football and doing I did. I'm sure you could have gone for a lot of places. The guy that is running back is there a peel and coming in and sharing the load with Trady. You know I think just more so the situation here in like I said just coming here. Being not only with Trady, but just great players all around. Being able to execute and contribute to this team and do what I can to help us win. How was the most important thing? Was there any thought about like you know taking some shred off your tires? Like knowing that you have had something carries in the first two years? I think just like I said, like in today's game that's something that is important for running back.

3:04:15You know to be able to value and to think about as far as the shelf life and things like that. But you know just in my situation come here that was the most important thing. But Trady, thank you. Thank you. It's like exactly like every little detail with the D lines doing. That's not really what I didn't know every little aspect of it. I think I'm starting to learn that now because obviously lineback you've got to be knowing that more. So I think when it's all said, no, I think I have a really really really good understanding of defense and knowing exactly what everyone's doing. Do you feel like you're warm enough to remember the maybe some of the defense too at the lineback here? He's out of sight because you can be dropped in one minute. Pass rested that you or me. I think I can get in some of that anyway. Yeah, actually, I think you can say it would be an lineback here in the play. You're almost in every play. Yeah. Obviously the play can run away from you. But you know, it's safety sometimes you're just back there playing every guest. You take two back battles and it's a tackle. So I think yeah, a lineback here in the play more. More chance more opportunities to make tackles. Do you feel comfortable there? I mean, what does that, you know, obviously you're dan. I'm staying out like that. Yeah, I feel super comfortable with it.

3:05:16Like I said, I think it's just going to be adjustment. You know, obviously it's different playing from a five than it was from playing from my 10 last year. So I think it's an adjustment, but I'm super comfortable with it. So you have a top tier dad, have you any advice on the new position? Oh, yeah, we watch, we watch tape all the time. Watch practice. You know, he was a high level linebacker. And I'm just getting started with this. He gets a little shit with little footwork and stuff like that. But it's good. I get good teaching him, you know, obviously coach Lord Knight is great player, great teacher for him, coach knows. You know, he's a super smart football mind. So I'm getting great teaching all around. So the linebacker, everything happens quicker for you. How much did the experience playing some of that Sam? It's got a faster help with this. Um, I think it helped a little bit. It's been like in terms of physical like being in the box down down on the line. But I do think the the run fit as a will and a Sam can be a little different. Like in terms like I said, like being an interior fitter, like your 30 backer, when a you get pools,

3:06:16now you got to go spill it. So things like that. But I think I'm adjusting well. I think I'm picking up on stuff pretty fast. You know, there's still going to be a lot of stuff to work on though. Do you feel more pressure talking to the media with your brother sitting right there? Not at all. What do you think has been the biggest change from five backer safety? Five backer. Um, I think the biggest change will probably be that that's 10 to five. Because it's a big adjustment because everything's happening faster and you got to react faster. And like I said, the waist and movements. I think footwork is huge. I think when you see the great linebackers, seems to play happens are going. They're not taking any wasted steps or not fall stepping things like that. So I think wasting waste of movement and being able to see what's happening react fast. It's been a big sped fitter between being on the same team with your brother. Um, I mean, you know, you got someone out there that's a it's more than a team. You know, we call each other brothers, but you know, bloods, bloods a little thicker. So that's always pretty cool. You know, it's always it's never one on one.

3:07:18Yeah, but he tells you something that he doesn't observe about you. You know, it's coming from. Yeah, I think when you're blood like that, I think he's not scared of telling me the truth. You know, I'm saying, you know, obviously guys here, we have tough love. But I think it's always going to be a little different when it's your brother. Because he going to keep it 100% blood exactly what you need to hear. Not what you want to hear. What's your advice on playing dick? Oh, for him. I mean, he just so I've let it. He got to keep trusting his instincts. I think he's going to be great. I think what's huge for him is like I said, the athletic ability speed. You know, he bliss off the edge. He's we can be busy super fast. And he's just great in coverage too. So I think something really good. I think we'll do a lot of different things kind of like you see a handcott. Obviously, a little different body than a handcott. But I think he's going to be really good at once and stuff from that field. He needs his time. And go out there and try to put yourself on a map. It's starting early. It helps you with your growth as a player and as a person and learning who you are.

3:08:22And just having that mentality to compete and have that job. I would say just at my position, really something that you can always work on is just pass pro. It's just one of the key things that you can always get better. And no matter if you're really good at it or whatever the situation is, it's something you can always critique yourself on. What's up, you know, is that you get first, but there are some questions for your hard school. Is that something that's hard? Most definitely. You'll see. The biggest difference in the state where we've been in the middle of the first day. Man, Coach Day is a great coach from my first time coming in when I took a visit to a high state. And I was in a transfer portal just the way when we sat down and how he explained how things are or how you're stating what this culture means to not only him, but to everyone else here. How I can contribute and help the team just every way he broke the game down for me. It was super important and just getting to meet him for the first time. I got to see what type of man he was and he meant a lot to me.

3:09:31Yeah, most definitely. I feel like when you look at the run-in backs in the NFL today, like Safequan, Derek Henry, those guys producing at such a great high level definitely helps the run-in backs like me and other guys in his class for sure. Yes, right. I'm back with Tom. I'm just talking about how it goes around and how it's been in life. It's been you say it was about the same way. Yeah, most definitely. Just getting to see Coach Kelly again, seeing that smile on his face. Whether or not he's seen him last time, but it was a great environment. Had a great time seeing him again and talking with the other guys as well. Like, how do you get your injuries? No. Yeah, it was great, man. Not having a lot of time to prepare because we just played so soon, but just taking advantage of those days that I have and making the most out of them and doing what I'm best at. So just taking advantage of that.

3:10:32I just felt, you know, with the training that I had and the people I trained with, they prepared me the best. So why not? Yeah, so coming off that loss towards the end of the season and just the mentality we had as a team and that stretch that we had to go on and just really, man, just locking in with ton of vision, going on a long stretch, trying to win all those games. So I think that just helped me as far as, you know, going on in my future and how I approach things for sure. I think just how close we are, close knit and how we protect each other, have each other's back and hold each other accountable. I think that's what was the difference maker in the show scene. No, I'll say just approaching every game of the same manner, same way going about meetings, doing all the different small things, communicating with the whole line, making sure I'm on the right page with everybody.

3:11:36So just approaching it the same way and came out with the win. What's the difference between the three and the Johnson and the Johnson team? Nothing really, man. I think at the end of the day football is football. So, you know, learning some NFL terminology, but at the same time it's just still football. You can only get to World of Belcom, potentially based on this year. You're going to be able to do it for the next couple of years. That's something I already did. So coming into college, my freshman sophomore year, main guy, 1500 yards, back to back season, 1,000 yards. So that wouldn't be an issue for me. Oh, yeah, so I'm a bigger guy with side speed vision, elucidness and power. Get run between the tackles also outside and just have natural gray hands. So I think I haven't seen, you know, any running back in today's NFL that can do what I do at my size. And especially, you know, that's what I bring with my skills to the game.

3:12:37I have some form of today coming up. Yes. Really just a relationship that we have. Coach Loco's a guy that I didn't just meet overnight. He recruited me as well for the state since I grade. And just to have that continuous relationship with him, it meant a lot to me. And he taught me a lot with the one year I had it with him at Ohio State. Just how to, you know, be accountable and just continue to motivate others around me. And continue to be positive. So he taught me and trail lot in that room. And I think it spread across the whole room with the way I led and just the leadership roll I had. What are your expectations for James? Man, I think James just said such a great player and not only him, but the other guys in the room as well. Those guys were all produced. They learned a lot from me and Trace, so I don't have any worries. Cool. Cool. Thank you guys.

3:13:38Jordan Hancock and stuff. So it makes sense why he to come in. I mean, you see what Coach G are doing. Why not? Why wouldn't you want to come be a part of BIA? I think we'll leave it to you. He'll come in here. That's great. Thank you. Thank you. Jordan Hancock and stuff. That's great. I think Sonny is a spectacular athlete. Sonny has the ability to play safety, to play linebacking and probably come off the airs. Sonny could probably play every position on the field. So I think having him and his team, he's a great player. And he's a great player. And he's a great player. And he's a great player. Sonny could probably play every position on the field. So I think having him coached the line, being in the make plays, it gives us more opportunity

3:14:38to change the defense and do different things in the defense that maybe we weren't able to do last year. So I think wherever Sonny is going to play, he's going to be successful. So I'm excited to play with him. It's going great. Coach G was here when I, when I, my junior year in me and him, we geled together a lot. I think he's a great coach, ridiculously smart, and brings a lot of energy every day. And I love being coached right before and I can't wait for him to be back here and have a year, another year with him. It's just a big jump from the year one. I mean, like I said, it should be the best defense in the country. It shouldn't be no other goals. Did you play a big role in special teams? It's been like watching it now with Ryan Day. I don't know what to do. Yeah, I think I love how Coach Days get more hands on, get more involved in everybody. I mean, I think Coach Days, the best head coach in the country. So for him to be in there on our special teams, you're going to be pushing everyone to be better, holding the older guys accountable, making the older guys hold the young guys accountable.

3:15:42I think it's just going to make us a better all-around team. What did you see from Jaylen? And his early days? Oh, man, Jaylen is a, he, a dude that goes 100% every play. And as a young guy, that's the first step of, for greatness, just going as hard as you can every play. And I think Jaylen could be really special. Yeah, that's why I got to say. Yeah, I think, like I said earlier, I'm not going to sit here and lie and say when it first happened, I wasn't crushed. I think I was really destroyed. But I think just knowing that God has a plan for me and I'm facing this adversity for a reason, and I'm going to come out stronger, smarter, and a better player. So I can't wait for what he has in store for me this year. What did you find yourself doing watching? I know you had a decision, you had a good vote for me, try again. I'm not worried about God, this year, this year. You wanted a part of the team to be around you.

3:16:44I had to be frustrating for you to watch this time considering how close you guys were. Some of the plays that went the other way and I think I was. Yeah, just knowing, I mean, don't want how much, like, it's funny when I talked about it before, like, being a do from Arizona. I don't, I didn't know too much about how I stayed before I got here. So just being here for the years I've been here, man, I grew to love it. I grew to really love my brothers, love Ohio State. And to be not be able to play in that game, and I was crushed, I was crushed. And it was hard for me to watch. It was hard for me to just sit there and not be with my brothers and be a part of that. But I mean, that just has that much more fuel in the fight this year. So going there and to achieve our goal of being team of North, winning the Big Ten, and winning the national championship. So that's why we came back. It's easy. All of us could have went to the NFL and achieved our dreams. But when we didn't achieve our goals here and didn't finish our legacy here, the way we wanted to made the decision to come back that much easier. When did you get over the last question on the back scene? You know what I mean? Kidding back feeling. I'm talking to the other person right now.

3:17:44What time frame is that? Probably towards the end, the end of the winner. I started feeling a little more like myself again. So just keep stacking those days and keep building that momentum to feel even better than I felt last year. You may have been asked for a walk up here. What does Caleb bring to that secondary now? You and him back there together. What does that feel like? Oh, yes. It's one of another turns. It's super exciting. Like I'm saying, he's a real student of the game. Me and him being the film room all day. I'm getting on the field competing in the way room on the field. He's a great competitor. And just having someone like Caleb to push you every day to get better and to hold you accountable man is super exciting. And I can't wait to see how me and Caleb play, how all the safety's played. Jahaig looking great. Jelima claim, Bonzou, all those dudes looking great man and just having BIA back. I'm excited. What are the quick, is you looking at this defense from your bench? All the pieces there, I'm saying, does it feel like this could be a special year to be hosting together?

3:18:47Yeah, I mean, I feel like the last three years it could have been a special year. But I mean, yeah, obviously if you look on paper at the defense, we have the best defense in the country. So if you just, it just takes, it's on us to put it all together. It's easy to say you had the distance even just that, but at the end day you still got to go on the field, shepherd, humbled up and show it every week. Jason, thank you very much. Tire, we got you, buddy. Thank you. You just covered up all this or did you kind of have it in there that was good? I think, yeah, I was definitely surprised. I mean, I remember when he came here as a recruit and he was on his official and he really did. And then I know he's really close with Jordan, Hancock and stuff. So it makes sense why he to come in. I mean, you see what coach G are doing, like, why not? Why wouldn't you want to come be a part of BIA? I think that with the way that you feel coming here, that's great for the safety. But also, allow the defense to take a different view of the sun and your favorite line. So when you look at the like, actually, you're in the back of the defense. You look at that whole defense and finally, can you look at number six now playing off the closer to line? How do you think it changes the whole room of how you play BIA?

3:19:49Yeah, I mean, I think Sunni is a spectacular athlete. I mean, Sunni has the ability to play safety, to play linebacking, and probably come off the aides. Sunni could probably play every position on the field. So I think having him closer to the line, being able to make plays, it gives us more opportunity to change the defense and do different things in the defense that maybe we weren't able to do last year. So I think wherever Sunni is going to play, he's going to be successful. I'm excited to play with him. Going great. I mean, Coach G was here when I, when I, my junior year in me and him, we geled together a lot. And I think he's a great coach, ridiculously smart, and brings a lot of energy every day. And I love being coached while I'm before, and I can't wait for him to be back here and have a year, another year with him. I mean, like I said, it should be the best defense in the country. It shouldn't, should be no, no other goals. Did you play a big role in specialty in two times yet? It's been like watching it now with Ryan Day, having a lot of good.

3:20:50Just a hand in and that. Yeah, I think I love how Coach Days get more hands-on, get more involved in everybody. I mean, I think Coach Days, the best head coach in the country. So for him to be in there on our specialty, and he's going to push everyone to be better, holding the older guys accountable, making the older guys hold the young guys accountable, I think it's just going to make us a better all-around team. What did you see from Jaylen? And his early days? Oh, man, Jaylen is a, he, a dude that goes 100% every play. And as a young guy, that's the first step of, for greatness, just going as hard as you can every play. And I think Jaylen could be really special. Yeah, that's why I got to say. What was it like in the Wendell team, you feel like every time you've gotten on that, you're having a toward something. You can throw on another curveball. How did you handle this one, compared to the other two? Yeah, I think, like I said earlier, I'm not going to sit here and lie and say when it first happened, I wasn't crushed. I think I was really destroyed. But I think just knowing that God has a plan for me, and I'm facing this adversity for a reason,

3:21:52and I'm going to come out stronger, smarter, and a better player. So I can't wait for it. What do you ask the store for me this year? And I'm physically instant. What did you find yourself doing watching? I know you had a decision, you had a good vote for me, try again. I'm not worried about God, this sort of thing. You wanted a part of the team, you're around here. I have that head of the frustrating for you to watch this time, considering how close you guys were. Some of the plays that went the other way, I think, also. Yeah, just knowing, I mean, don't want how much, like, it's funny, I talked about it before. Like, being a do from Arizona, I didn't know too much about how I stayed before I got here. So just being here for the years I've been here, man, I grew to love it. I grew to really love my brothers, love Ohio State. And to be not be able to play in that game, I was crushed. I was crushed. And it was hard for me to watch. Hard for me to just sit there and not be with my brothers and be a part of that. But I mean, that just has that much more feel in the fight this year. To go in there and to achieve our goal of being team of Nore, winning the Big Ten, and winning the National Championship. So that's why we came back.

3:22:52It's easy. All of us could have went to the NFL and achieved our dreams. But when we didn't achieve our goals here and didn't finish our legacy here, the way we wanted to made the decision to come back that much easier. When did you get over the last question? What's the last vaccine you're going to be getting back feeling? What time frame is that? Probably towards the end of the winner. I started feeling a little more like myself again. So just keep stacking those days and keep building that momentum to feel even better than I felt last year. You may have been asked for a walk up here, but what does Caleb bring to that secondary now? You and him back here together. What does that feel like? It's super exciting. Like I'm saying, he's a really student of the game. Me and him being in the film room all day. I'm getting on the field competing in the way room on the field. He's a great competitor. Just having someone like Caleb to push you every day to get better and the whole day accountable man is super exciting. And I can't wait to see how me and Caleb play, how all the safety's played.

3:23:53Jahaig looking great. Jelima claim, Bonzou, all those dudes looking great man and just having BIA back, I'm excited. What are the quick, is you looking at this defense from your bench? All the pieces there, I'm guessing, I mean does it feel like this could be a special year to everything hosting together? Yeah, I mean I feel like the last three years it could have been a special year. But I mean yeah, obviously if you look on paper at the defense, we have the best defense in the country. So if you just, it just takes, it's on us to put it all together. It's easy to say you had the distance even just that, but at the end day you still got to go on the field, sharpen your helmet up and show it every week. Nathan, thank you very much. Thank you. Ty, we got you buddy. Thank you. The buck guy, if you're a walk on her five star, whatever should help us run you know? We can bury the fence. Yeah. You still work with them for how does that work right now? Yeah, we can. I mean with Max and Toe, it's FaceTime and it's encouraging them to get here and watch practice so that when they get here, right after graduation, we can hit the ground running.

3:24:53But yeah, it's much prep work as we can do on the front end with, you know, setting up tipsheets and that's what it thing. We're technology nowadays. I mean COVID we had to do it. So yeah, we can get to work right now. Two more questions folks with the special teams question. The collaboration that you guys have, it's three people in one room. Like how does that work semantically where you guys are all putting your heads together to get one idea? Just how does that play out in the room together? Yeah, I mean luckily, I mean it's Coach Hart and I. I mean that guy, we worked, we're see each other every day for the last eight years and luckily I worked four years with them. So that's so organic. Hart and I just kind of bounce each other, thoughts off each other. We can read each other's minds by now. I think that's how close we are. So this is really organic in there and then Coach Kees does a great job of kind of setting the direction given us some expertise. And we just kind of have a flow off each other. Okay. I've been seeing the guys react to that. So you're coaching the special teams. Yeah, I think they like it because like the accountability, again if my tight ends aren't on return to kicker drink, they're not playing tight end. And I know that. So I think across the board it gives us a platform to coach other positions.

3:25:54In a time when the paint transport is so big and the guy like jeek probably going to left multiple times who you wanted to. What does that do for the room to have a guy who's the leader? Have you just so step-ass and like I'm going to stay here and make an impact? Yeah, I think it speaks volumes. You hit the nail on the head, not just for G, but for the brotherhood. And I know it sounds cliche and people read it on Twitter and kind of roll the rise of brotherhood. Why did think the entire defense came back for the brotherhood? We got two goals here. We haven't done them since she's been here. He hasn't hit his two goals so he stayed for the brotherhood. So I think it speaks volumes for G as a leader in the room. But also I mean you look around a roster how many guys could have either left for other opportunities in the portal or in the NFL. So I think it speaks volumes to the brotherhood. Is it different at tight end with the transfer portal maybe because for some positions it's such a development position at tight end where you have to develop run blocking? And you have to learn the passing game. Is it different trying to keep kids around maybe in the portal area at tight end? Yeah, maybe it is. And I haven't really thought about that because it's still so new. I think you've got to be so honest in recruiting.

3:26:55If you think I'm going to walk into a living room and say, come be my starting tight end and I should be crazy. You're crazy. Now come prepared and get to work before you get here. And I'm going to give you the opportunity to. Again, I'll question earlier. I don't care if it's a senior or a true freshman. If you could play you could play period. I can't wait. Give me a true freshman you could play tight end. It's the Ohio State. You've got to block Jack and JT. And then your dog tired next play. You're getting covered by downs and lathe and then all those guys. You're getting me. Is this NFL? No, it's Ohio State. Right? So yeah, I think it's a little bit different but you've got to be honest on the front end. Thank you very much. Thank you guys. Thanks coach. Thanks a lot. That's what we really count. That's what I really feel like. I'm really proud of Steven Timberman. I hope it's different. I'm old, who's a bearded, straight practice and maybe called practice last year. It's not even quite 50 years but I love to play. I'm the player, I like to support my body, strength, forward, blah, blah. You know, the game was slowed down.

3:27:55I mean, weren't you? I mean, you're in a pressure. That's what I'm feeling like. I'm not in a game more of a true freshman. I was just in high school. Lashes, going in the fall game so I had to adjust to it. But now I'm learning the game and I know the assignments I gotta do. And I'm just doing my job. That's what coach Johnson was really being on. What did you take out of last season? You mentioned coming straight out of high school. Don't play a ton. How much did you take away? What kind of things did you learn from freshman? I'll say it was tough, you know. But I'm learning from guys like Mike Hall. Time helmets and time league. These guys are pro at guys. So I'm just trying to get, I'm gonna ask many questions I have for them. And he's really just getting better just everyday. Full bag, I like his core. I'm not the petitions. No petition, no petition. I just wanted you to do my job. I'm a team player.

3:28:55So whenever I gotta be from my team, I'm a great player. Last couple days. I'm a couple of people. I'm a good player. And having some people that have been petitions. Obviously, I just said to you, I just really do. It's just surprising what you have to do. You don't feel like a great person. No, this is not surprising to me. I've been putting in the work. Couldn't work my whole life. But I feel like coach makes this all season. It's really big for me. I like being on it. You see the results. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. You think this is going to suffer another one. You're going to learn to do this. Right? Right. That's what you can motivate you to have a different thing with. I want to say a motivate me. But I'm here for a reason.

3:29:55A guy I got me here for a reason. So whatever happens, you know, it happens. I love to hear. I just know that. Be great. That's a lot of times like to play early years when it comes. Doesn't it get that often? You can do it easily. Imagine it. It's a chip on the shoulder. But it's not a big issue. It's a good better here. I'm sure people here are friends. Oh. Yeah. Really, yeah. I got a big chip on my shoulder. I don't take no days for training. I know. Because we've got to play every play like your last play. So that's how I do it. I'm just looking motivated. Some big teams are coming up 17 games. Somebody got to step up. And they leading on the young guys like me and Jason. He wrote to Tom Warren to step up. Can we see a full back of a spring game? Can we get a touchdown in the spring game? Oh, no. We ain't really meant to talk about it. But I think during the season, we're going to save it. I can't wait to see how many of the guys are playing. Can't let the opposing teams know when we got the print. How did you think that went, sir?

3:30:55Yeah. I'm looking for a full back. It was awesome. I just felt like high school days. I'm excited. I'm blocking for guys like Kushan, Tray, Dallon. I mean, it's going to open it. Do you have to fight with Kaden for that role? Because he was just talking about it too. So clearly, is it really worth it? Yeah. We should. I think we should have a couple of plays. Whatever it is for my team, what am I doing? Is it Kaden doing or I doing? I think it's going to be a good thing for us. Really, I bet you're right when you're going to the DLL that gives you the best food you had for better matchups. I like going against Donnie and Fryer. I feel like those are pro guys. I'm going to get to the best. You're at the Ohio State. So every day you're going to compete with the best. So you got to bring it. You mentioned 17 games in the last season.

3:31:56There's got to be more depth inside. Set competition like when you talked about hero games. What's that competition like? I was really competitive. I'm trying to be them to the ball. I feel like all of us, we just work in getting better. You know what's upstate this year? We're trying to be the top of North America last year. That's the only thing you have in mind. You just bring it to the end of the season. How have you been? How have you been? How have you been? I've been in the set of standard. Those are events. I'm glad they came back. They showed me things, you know, little things. Like little things I'm working on. Like technique lines. And things like that. So it's not really good for them to come back. I'm like, you just do. Thank you very much. You guys are playing well. But nothing really happened. The most I've gotten all this necessarily meant weird. But you kind of had all that. Most starters. Can you feel when we're in a group like that when you get back to the field? I mean, you can also make sure. Yeah, I think I felt like I was in a group probably the whole second half of the season. I felt like myself again. And I was just out there playing and having fun with my teammates.

3:32:56And you know, I think that, you know, when you come here and you expect to get the field and to be a certain way, you know, it's hard to get over that for a little bit. And I think you can look at kind of this all of us on the D line as a front. We all kind of had our own journey to how we're playing right now. And now it's all about building, not looking back and playing how we know how to play and being confident out there and using our abilities that God's gave us. So I think that this whole next year, you know, you're just going to see a whole different level of play from all of us. I know you're trying to keep it up. Yeah. And that'd be kind of a launch. You know, what you're maybe capable of. You're doing a good job. You're doing a good job. You're doing a good job. You're doing a good job. Yeah, you know, I've knew all along what I was capable of. And I know it's frustrating for a few years, you know, not being able to, you know, not playing for whatever reason on the field to what I was capable of. But, you know, once you just put that stuff to the side, just got there and play ball. You know how it's just going to take care of itself. You know, you're doing.

3:33:56Did you play, you used the term, the talent issues. I've got like an emphasis of not focusing on the little things kind of owning it on that stuff. And you guys know you have the talent issues. And what is it for you to be able to focus on? Yeah, you know, I think you said it. You know, there's no talent issues here on this team. You know, I think if you look at our team across the board, probably one of the most talented teams in the country. If not the most talented team in the country. And so, you know, that's God given though. And what we can work on is our discipline, our skill, our technique. I think if we become the most, you know, disciplined and sound team technique wise, there's not going to be a team of countries to stop us. But it's a long process to get to that point and to get to that season. So I just think that when Coach Day talks about that, you know, it's true. We've got the talent. Just got to go out there and work every day on the little things. What are you specifically working on this spring? You know, I'm working on flexibility. You know, I'm working on bending the corner a little bit in hands. At D line, you can kind of improve on everything. And so Coach Johnson's emphasis is just, you know, just taking care of the little things, hands, hips, foot placement.

3:35:02So it's kind of a little bit every day in the spring. There's a lot to be excited for, especially all the guys coming back on defense. But how excited are you to play again with JT? Oh, I'm really excited about that. You know, it was cool, really cool. I mean, him going back and forth the whole time to side. And we're going to come back or not. And you know, when we, you know, I kind of knew before you guys knew when he was coming back. So, you know, I was excited. He's a, you know, a hell of a player and, you know, a really good friend of mine. So just having another year with him and, you know, if I'm going to enjoy it and, you know, hopefully have some fun. And, you know, we can have a lot of support back. Nice wall. Even going back to your recruitment. You know, the first guy to come in and this group was, you high guy going for barbecues in your house. What was it like, I guess, to see a kind of comfortable circle in a way that you could kind of almost leverage that relationship. And we're good guys to come back into the pool and run back on the right. Yeah, you know, it's unique. You know, I think it's a really unique position. I've got great group of guys coming back, man. You know, it's just so exciting. And I just wanted to, you know, for me, you know, and the same thing, same thing for those guys.

3:36:05How much they care about this program and care about the team and coach day and, and guys you want to do it for in the city and, you know, the chance. We all knew that, you know, we had great opportunities going in the field. And we also have a great opportunity to put another one of those banners up here. And, you know, get some revenge on the guys up north, all that stuff. So, you know, when you put in a nutshell, you know, it was a really simple decision for a lot of us. And, you know, we thank God for being in this position and coming back. You know, I don't think anyone's regretted it. And we're just really excited to, you know, just get back on the chase and, you know, not miss a day. Jack, can you take a wide view of the defense with the additions made by Caleb coming in? And now you see Sonny Wu, Pulso, Alliance for Image. You just, when you have an opportunity to like looking at what's out there, how does it change the capability with your defense? Last time, how can it change the way maybe you deploy that you couldn't do a year ago? Yeah, I mean, you look at our, you look at the defense one of the three like, damn, we're big.

3:37:07You know, corner, we're big, line back, we're big, D line, we're big, safe, through, we're big, fast. You know, we're just, it's, you know, we're just, we've got a lot of, a lot of weapons to say the least. And so, you know, when you got, when you know you got those guys behind you, you know, you just make you play a place on much more free up front. And, you know, you, you're dependent, you can rely on those guys behind you. And I think that, you know, if we take that approach and, and everywhere on the field, offense too, that, you know, we're going to really fun here. But in actually, I'm not, because it takes great strength to make a decision and leave a place. No, a weak minded person wouldn't be able to make the decision that I made. So it took great strength to do that. So I'm telling you, by littering my DMs, it's some, it's some great comedians out here that have been sending me like tons of cookies and I like it, it's funny. Right behind them. Tony Gervin, Bucket Huddler. How have you gone about the assessment of the talent in the room over the past week or two? How much is that unfilled, off-field? Like, what's the process of getting to know who you have as players?

3:38:10Well, I broke down, well, me being a guy that loves to run the back position. I already broke those kids down because I recruited him out of high school. No, Q is from where I'm from in Montgomery. I was one of the first guys to offer him. Just watching him, great contact ballers, creative runner, great hands, and trade. I recruited him out of Virginia. It's exceptional short area of birching, quickness and things. I'm gonna help him get better on. And then I recruited James Peoples out of San Antonio, Texas. I knew what he was gonna, what he was gonna be. Now, TC and Sam, those two kids I'm getting to know, and I'm gonna help them improve their game. But, no, we got different runners in there. I like to call myself, I'm in love with this position. So I get to break down runners and help their game. So, talent, talent, the room over there, talent. Far back, Jeremy Birmingham podcast. How much square effect did soft best? Cookies are actually the best cookies that Bill's been making.

3:39:12Those are way better than crunchy chips and white things, those are terrible. Do you have to find a balance there? Well, for me, I'm actually not eating the cookies. I'm not eating the cookies this year. I gave it up for a fast. So, no sweets for me for the whole year. That's something I gave up. So, the term, the soft best cookie term, look, guys, I actually took that from, I represent the high school coaches of Memphis Tennessee. I actually took that from a guy named Coach Slokum. He's always said that soft best cookie. I actually stole that from him. I give him credit for it. And I tell them all the time, he said, I should have branded it because you don't take it and run away with it. But, that's just where they come from. That night was standing. As you get to Ohio State and you start to look around the country, or against a big place, that's a nature job. How do you think that wearing the Ohio State logo on your chest, wearing a locker when you get out of the interior trail? How does that change the way that you feel

3:40:13you're either received or visit at a different level to just feeling like I can go anywhere and get anybody in the country. It doesn't change the name for me. This is a great place. Oregon is a great place too. But, guess what? Whatever I put on, I know what I'm going to represent for me. I know who put me here. I know I represent something higher. No, like I told you, I know what my purpose is. My purpose is supporting the people. So, wherever the logo I have on, I'm still going to be doing the same thing. So, this is a great logo. Great logo. By where I know the logo every day. It's across the Sierra Manique. I know what I represent. So, that's the greatest logo I could ever wear. So, it doesn't matter what other logo I have on. I got that one on. I'm going to any house and be able to recruit. Deep right. Camerate T. Robinson, the athletic coach. You mentioned a time of Memphis and then the score. And if you remember, you mentioned there, you learned from that time that you can take over to managing the world.

3:41:20What did I learn from that? I'm just teaching the kids. We live in such a selfish world. And I can tell the kids all the time. It's got to be much more than football. The ball is going to go flat one day, as I always say. What being in that room there at Memphis is, it went for five. Teaching them how to be about being one. I tell them in all time. It doesn't cost you anything to celebrate another man's success. So, teaching them how to be one. And once they learn to be one, they function and they feed off one another. So, that's what I learned from being there at Memphis. Right in front of them. Andy Baxter, Letterman Rowe. Pro, instead of your career in law enforcement, kind of influence, you as a coach, you kind of should agree with what I'm doing. I just got to do talking to somebody about that today. When I first got into this profession, I got my own room in West Kentucky. I was asked, how was I going to be able to handle my room? I said, man, I had a power with 51 inmates.

3:42:22You tell me, me having got six or seven guys, you kidding me? I'll tell my me having to do traffic stops or going on domestic. No violence calls. It's simple, easy. No, people on those you care. Also, no, you got to have a certain demeanor about yourself. So, when I walk into a room, it's the reason why I go train every morning. It's the same thing when I was a police officer. You look a certain way, kind of deter people from doing certain things. So, it's just why I go train every morning. I'm going to look just as good as my boys look. So, it helped out a lot in other words. Front row right, Austin Moore, the podcast. Carl, welcome to Columbus. What would it mean to revolutionize the way running backs or coach? What does that take? I'm not going to say revolutionized. It's some good running back coaches out here. Everybody's different. It's from great coaches out here. I just want the hit guys who said it on these jobs.

3:43:22The not just higher guys, you know, all coaches on your staff should be great recruiters. Not just running back coach. We coached the position. We developed the players as well. I just want the coaches to realize, you know what, let me look and be thorough about this guy that I'm hiring for this job. Is he teaching the position? Is he developing the position? Because you're not going to hire anybody. It's just coach quarterbacks already. Where it shouldn't be like that for the running back position either. And I'm only passionate about it because I played it. I love it. So it's on the position I want to coach. Could I coach the other positions? Yeah, I played DBN college too. But I love the running back position. So I just want to see it coach well. Tim May podcast. Yeah, a million questions. All that's a couple. Number one, when you're wife, whatever, you got the message stuff. Are we moving again? What was her reaction? No, she just no guy gave us a new assignment. It was never like we're moving again. Let me tell you guys something. I grew up, my mom was in the military. So I lived everywhere. I lived in Panama, South America.

3:44:22I'm used to picking up and moving. I lived in Fort Riley, Kansas. My garbage home, Memphis, my second home. So I'm used to moving. Now my wife was different for her. But she just new guy. It gave us a new assignment. So it was time to go. What did Coach Day tell you when he heard you that he wants out of you that may be different? He's not slamming somebody else. But what did he say he wanted you to bring to the running back room? I think he did his research on me. He said he wanted the guy to develop the position. That's not taking a shot at the coach that was here who I'm friends with. And he said they didn't want somebody to really get the guys going. I can only be me. And I told him that coach, I'm going to be me every day now. My mind said this when I step in this building, I got one mindset. That's to do my job so well that the living dead I'm born and doing anything better. So when I leave it, that's when my mind said this. Hopefully I'm here for a long time. But on the guy knows that. So but that's my mindset. Every day I step into it with a haste.

3:45:26That's my mindset. I'm going to do my job so well that the living dead I'm born and doing anything better. So that's what my mind said is. Coach, we have time for one last question. Bill Rebinoff has a Columbus dispatch. Carlos, first of all, is it true that nobody calls you? Carlos never calls you lock the truth? Yeah. I prefer to be called lock. I know Coach Landon would call me. I thought maybe trying to take side at me every nine days that day. It's the Oregon call me Carlos. But I prefer to be called Coach Lock. So that's fine. You were in law enforcement. You had played football. I was going to chat to you. What made you decide to leave law enforcement to get back at the coach? I was starting at the very bottom and doing it when you had an established career. I'm going to say this with you all because I know a lot of people may not know this. When I first got to Memphis, that's not the first school I went to try to work at. I actually went to a small liberal arts school there in Memphis called Role College.

3:46:26They try to get on this there. I was told I have enough experience. I need to go back and go to high school. I think at that time God was telling me I was thinking too small. The decision for me to get into coaching football. That was God's decision. Because this is the extension of my ministry to poor and the people. So me getting out of law enforcement, I enjoy my life in law enforcement. But I knew I could reach more people by me. Being able to coach ball. I want to be a bridge builder. I want to help out young men. Not just young men, but the coaches that I work with helped them achieve their dreams and goals. That was part of it. Coach, thank you very much. Thank you. Thanks coach. And he believes in himself. That's part of the just trying to understand what's my path. But yeah, it's been great. Stuff's been made. He's growing. He's nowhere near where he knows he's capable of being. And you just probably impress him Jeremiah.

3:47:26I love the way he lives. I love the way he approaches things. I love the way the questions he asks. I love the way he makes mistakes. And then corrects mistakes. It's very veteran-like. I mean, there's so much ball he has to learn. He literally does things that are good. I'm like, do you know what that word goes? Coach, I have no freaking idea. So, like, I'm trying to teach him all of that. Why it worked. So then, you know, the consistency at which it works just goes through the roof. And so, but I'm very, you know, excited and proud of the conversations we're currently having. And I'm excited for them to keep going. I love working with Chip. Chip is, I love talking ball. I love the viewpoints. I love the veteran that he has, you know. And I love, yeah, I love all of it. I think that, you know, early on, the biggest impact, you know, just, you know, feeling perspective.

3:48:33I think the run game has been awesome, you know, and then, you know, off of the run game, some of the actions or relief throws or all that kind of stuff. I love where it's at. I love working with them. I would say that I sleep a little better. No, it's really a great combo because like, you know, we're obviously, we're doing a lot as a group. It's not just Chip and I. So, but, you know, obviously, Chip has an image and a view on things that I never had. So, to have that experience and to have that viewpoint, I'm just trying to absorb as much as I can. But then also highlight some things that we've really done a good job of and make sure those, you know, nothing's really changing. We're just trying to enhance. We're not changing. We're enhancing. So, where the things fit is perfect. You know, I think, you know, the rest of the dynamics of Sir Chip can talk about, but it's been awesome.

3:49:38So, I'm excited about it. Yep. We talked to a mechanic. There's something I'm moving from slot to outside. You know how good he's been in the slot. Is that a difficult move for you guys to just know how good a guy is at one spot? But know that maybe for his long term future and the... No, I wouldn't say it's anything on his future because he's capable of doing whatever you want to get done. But I'd say that it says more about the room. I think it's the growth of, you know, Brandon, the growth of Bryson. That's really, you know, allowing my mind to say, hey, Mac, be prepared. You're going to move around a lot. You're going to come out of that slot. You're going to be outside. We're going to create mismatches out there. I mean, his ability to move around is critical. But I would say between Mac and between Carnel Tates ability to move around a lot. It's going to provide a lot of flexibility for our room. And those top, you know, six, seven guys that are really doing a good job right now. What's your progress with this spring for Mac? Because, you know, there's no time for one of those things.

3:50:38I'm sure when you guys balance how much does it work as a need versus how much does he actually do? Yeah, heavy emphasis on what work he needs, you know, versus anything else. I rely on him. We have great dialogue back and forth. It's a two way conversation. And frankly, there's going to be times where like, hey, Mac, what do you want to do today? You want to go outside? You want to go inside? And I don't care. So we're not there yet. We will be there. But it's just more about, you know, when the room is ready to start mixing things up. I would say there's got, I mean, I make sure I bring in guys that are able to do all. But I have not asked them to yet. So the only guys that in our room currently have asked to do that has been Mac and Carnell. And those are probably the two guys that I would, you know, think heavily on doing moving around a lot. I'm not putting that on anybody else right now.

3:51:39I'm not saying they can't. But at this point, having two guys be able to swing, you probably don't need much more than that. I need guys being experts at what they're good at. So it helps the offense. Don't be great at everything. Be an expert at something. And we can use that to our advantage. Do you think you're doing this year is different? Maybe guys who are more situational. The room's always different. Frankly, I mean, from 2018 and then 19 to COVID and those guys and then the depth of those guys and then where Mac and Marvin and those guys were as freshmen, you know, it's always different. And I expect this one to be different again. Not sure at what level yet. Last question. The relationship between the TV room and your watching room, especially the back of the room. I'm curious. The TV has a leader just like you, you know, play it on high. Has it helped you? I'm curious about how you've seen Tim kind of build the Marvaks room, especially on the recruiting.

3:52:39So maybe kind of be effective. You're recruiting. How that's kind of enhanced. He would probably know more for that question than I would, but I would say that. Yeah, we obviously feel of each other, right? I mean, there really is a team sport and we can't do it without them and they can't do it without us. And we can't do it without the quarterback. We can't do it without the old line. So the more that can seep into other positions and we work as a team and operate as a team and identify where a team, the healthier we are. And when we are, we think that, you know, already, but I would say me and Tim, and really, you know, met on that talked about it. Like we talk about technique, we talk about recruiting, we do all that together. And not a crazy level, but definitely like, you know, more than I have in the past. So I love working with OG. I mean, he's awesome. He's got a great perspective. And we definitely feel of each other in practice. And then maybe while building our rooms, we've done the same. Brian, thank you very much. Cool. Thanks guys. All right, folks, we have CJ Hicks on the 20s.

3:53:40You're welcome. I'm so excited. I just feel like playing fast on our team. So it feels fast. Yeah. I'm not always fast. Yeah. But you know, it's how they create explosive offense. And so they bring that here and be good. It hasn't been good. It's set. It's set. Bro, it's in this way. And how is he? I think he's in the back. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I'm going to probably hit it just the way he's, you know, it's how they created explosive offense. And so they bring that here and be good. It hasn't been good. It's set. Bro, it's in this way. How is he? I think he's in the back. I mean, he hopes himself to the arc standard and his own standard. And Seth's been doing really good so far. Yeah. It's a good addition to the real. So you check or mention his football, I think you heard. And that was pretty evident. Have you noticed that it was something to come? 100%. Yeah. It's a great point. I said there. I mean, he has, by two full seasons of that, you see on his belt. So he's seen a lot different defensive. And he's very smart. I know he has like two degrees from BAM or something like that.

3:54:42So he's a very smart dude. Definitely never be good. What does a successful offseason look like for you? I'll say just improving. I'm one of the, I need to improve on. I'm just kind of competing and doing everything I can to be one of the five guys. I'm just kind of in myself and that spot. How do you roll, assuming you get through that? How do you then roll that into a fall camp? Successful. It starts to have a great summer. It starts with getting bigger, faster and sharper in the summer. And kind of understanding the play with more as I move in the fall camp. And just rolling with them and then into this season. I imagine getting better works because of the things you do that way. I'll say just my like punching mechanics and kind of my run-down technique. What do you see in the GFB and Justin and Coach Dodd? Yeah, there's a great chemistry from what I've seen so far.

3:55:43I mean, I think they're both really good offensive minds and they kind of work off each other. So I think they've had really good success so far. Chip obviously has experienced run games, stuff like that. How much does that affect offensive line play with a coordinator who kind of has a background? I think they've gotten past it a lot. I mean, I always want to coach that's under run-to-ball. I mean, I like past run all the other. We can run the ball and we're doing what we supposed to do at front. So having Coach Kelly behind us without him saying mentality is only a good thing for the run. There were obviously a big groups that came back along the offensive line. With that experience, does it feel different than previously just having as much? Some guys spots are still up for grabs and things like that. Does this spring feel different with that much experience? I'll tell you, yeah, I mean, my freshman year I remember like Paris and DeWon being here and seeing how they operated and started the similar thing with Putes. They had a lot of experience in their belt and kind of know what to expect going into the season and going into the spring ball.

3:56:46There were some defensive linemen that when they line up across from me, not that you're scared, but you're like, oh boy, I'm about ready to get into it. So when you're some guys that stand out to you in that regard? I'll say Jack, all of our DMs are really good. I'll say, so I don't want to like snub anyone out. I'll say Jack and JT are really good. I'll say, he's one of my roommates and he's gone a lot better. He's not really good spring so far. What's it like in offensive linemen living with a defensive linemen? Are you guys getting like some competitions? Are you mince over things? Like on how to do things? Yeah, I mean, what kind of like bit over certain plays and practice? Who won this round? Who won that round? But I've done the day where I was just trying to get each other better and all like brothers for it. As far as who cooks the meals in the house though, you guys have been arguments over that or who keeps clearing room stuff like that? A little bit, yeah. I mean, not a little kiss. I see dishes laid out and stuff like that. But yeah, I mean, now it's been since Vindray. It was my time and stuff.

3:57:46You were some guys on the defensive lineman honestly that you feel like they're pushing you to get better. Like I said, Jack, JT, Tayden, Priyatta, Mitch, all those the end are super, super good. The interior needs K-Mac, obviously, tightly each. They've all been giving the O-line a little bit of problems, but yeah, that's been a good competing against them and getting better. There you go. It's true people, this is for me the first offseason where you kind of pushed yourself a little bit. It just seems like you're making more of it. Yeah, I'll say, I'll say, yeah, I mean, it's all like last night's the same goal, but I'll say that I physically have mentally, mentally, very yet. But like I've taken strides during the season right out there during the season, during practice. I've had a good winter. I kind of put myself up and get Scott to be one of the five. I guess in what area mentally or physically? What was the figure?

3:58:46I'd say mentally just getting more plays on my belt and kind of having the game slow down. You know, when you first get here, everything's new, everything's faster. But what you're starting to see, different events, for formations and kind of recognizing different things that are going on. Kind of able to play a lot faster. And physically I've gone on a lot of sides in Spain, my lower and upper body, so it's helped me. I hope you play at this level. It's a hard little preparation, though, that you feel like you're kind of panicking and you need to go out there and play. But it's also because it's too starting. Kind of as well. What's the mindset of everything? What does two things mean? I mean, I just got to just worry about myself and do everything I can to kind of prove myself and the coach here that I won the fight. I want to try to help the team win. Thank you, George. Especially, you know, being a senior, there's not that many games left, so you're excited for the opportunity. Man, it's been a long journey. It's definitely been emotional when that last game comes, but just focus on this game.

3:59:46And yeah, I think I'm just going to enjoy the moment, really live in the moment and enjoy my time. David, do you see Jordan and Jordan Hancock really disemboweling out there? I would do describe. He's being used in a lot of different ways. I would describe the way he's played. Yeah, he's played great. I mean, he'd go in there and play in different positions or making a play when he's in there. And yeah, I think that it says a lot about him to be able to play different positions. It may play when his numbers fall, so it's exciting to see. One, the idea is offense is kind of RPO heavy. What's the key from your spot? I'm going to say, it's a good team success. Being successful, it depends on you. It depends on you. Yeah, I think just reading your keys, I think that's the best way. Just reading your keys and not letting RPO slow you down or making play hesitant. And then, you know, executing that coach knows a game plan will help us play. When you've obviously gotten through a lot of different shows, what do you say to staff in that help you? Yeah, first of all, my obviously thousand prayers out the set, because I know it's like to be there. But yeah, like you said, it's definitely tough since it would be at the end of the year.

4:00:48I'm getting injured like that. But I mean, he's been so great. Obviously handling so well. He's already out here. He was out here supporting us at practice. And, you know, yeah, I think the biggest thing to tell him is just, everything's going to be alright. Like it might seem like the end of the world right now at this moment. But it's going to be alright. Just continue to obviously be there for the team. But I think just lean on God. That's really what I did. When I need to, guys, one day, I'm going to be something that's really good. He's already got no good time. I'm going to help you guys. Yeah, it means a lot of sets, so much about set, the type of players, the type of leader he is. I mean, that's a leader of our team. And, you know, when he's going down, he could have just been at home right now just in his hours. But he's out here helping the team out. Man, that says a lot about him and we appreciate him for that. What's the key to covering a back show? Successful. I feel like that's something for our DB coaches. I'm not going to give away the secret. But yeah, that's some of our DB coaches that have been working with us. When I GB transferred to your last year, what did you kind of notice? He was going to have sort of bring the confidence and the match to the secondary?

4:01:52Yeah, I mean, immediately, IGB came in as a fierce competitor right off the bat. You felt my practice from his first practice to now, you still feel him. And always talking a lot of tries, always competing at a high level, never giving up. So, yeah, I think IGB has been a great add to the DB group. Thank you. Thank you very much. You're welcome. Yeah, obviously. And I think both teams have proven that, and that's why we're here. But they do an outstanding job. And they've got some real veteran leaders, you know, Kraus and Kaiser, I think, have been there. This is your sixth for both those guys. Watts and the secondary has been around for a long time. So, they've got depth, you know, up front, second level and third level. They're really smart. You can watch their communication that goes on during the play. And you can see how in tune they are to what the coaching staff is asking to do. So, that's a huge challenge for us on Monday going up against a really, really well coached defense. That has some really, really good players that have played a lot of football. You know, I think both teams have guys that have played a lot of football.

4:02:53And that experience has shown through the playoffs. Ben, it's a whole rock letter to your own. Can you see Will make, when you say, can you make it on the first drive, like this I have? Trying to get the ball to Jeremiah. Is that like an aggressive mistake for Will? And when you're trying to get the ball to Jeremiah and try to involve your best player, like you're not excusing something like that, is there almost like a okay, like, we're trying to get the ball there and kind of understand why you do it. Yeah, he just didn't see the linebacker underneath in the coverage. He read the top of the coverage really well. He didn't see the underneath part of the coverage. You know, so we discuss it just like we normally do between each series about what just transpired. And then what are we going to do next? And the one thing about Will is he owns everything he does. Because if you don't own it, then you're going to make the same mistake again, because you don't realize how you did it. He knew right away he just didn't see the linebacker. You know, he felt like the top of the coverage was deep enough. And Jeremiah had pushed them off where he could throw that ball into him. But he didn't spot the underneath coverage. So, you know, it's something he'll learn from it. Hopefully the one thing I love about Will is usually doesn't make the same mistake twice.

4:03:53So, you know, let's hope he has that out of his system. Can we keep Robinson? Yeah, but obviously, he's in problem with the best horse in the country. He's been a horse in it. He's not, he's been out of here. But Leonard Moore set the up pretty well. I'm going to say it's just he carries it all on him with that whole secondary guise. Yeah, I think the whole secondary, you look at how much man they play and the reason they do it is because they can't. You know, and no one's really exploited that with him. So, I think they all can cover. You know, so it's not like, well, just stay away from him and throw against this guy. I think all of them are really, really skilled. And I think how coordinated it is with the whole group, you know, that they all have an understanding of where they're supposed to be, when they're supposed to be there. And they do a really good job with it. So, I know they did lose a corner early in the season, but they've seemed to just continue to roll on defense. And the statistics show you that. Game over. WSY, actually. Yeah. Chip, all year, when you're prepping again, you know there's another game, two seven more games down the road.

4:04:53This is the last one winner lose. I'm curious, does that change anything in preparation, or does that have to distribute, is there anything different about knowing that you have no games left after this? That's a good question. I don't think we've talked about that one yet, but we certainly don't save things going into games saying, hey, this is a really good deal. Let's not run it because we want to run a three or four games down the road because you don't know who you're going to have and what you're going to do. You make your decisions based upon the personnel that's available that week. And then what's going to help you win that football game? And those are the same decisions that are being made now. So, SnapCount going into a game, we don't really talk about that. The only time that ever comes up is when you're up and you're starting to think about substitute. And so if the score is 42-7 and the third, why don't we get Donnie out and why don't we get Seth out? You know, because you hate to lose a guy when the score is 42-7. You know, when a game, because we do have multiple games to play after that. But that's the only time we've really talked about that. The other day that's delivered to that after the game Ryan talking about that screen

4:05:54said it was something that was so far from his mind. It's not even sure why you guys even practiced it. What went into the decision to dial out of there in that situation? Well, honestly, there was 29 seconds to go in the first half when we were on our 25th-yard line. So, let's see if we can get something here on the first play. If we can, then we'll get into two-minute mode. But if we can't, then you're probably going to take a knee and go in at halftime. So, we thought it was a safe play to run and see if we could pop something. And obviously, it worked. But it worked because it's a pretty good player. So, if you can get him into open spaces like we did, he can stick his foot in the ground and get north and south really, really fast. You'll look at Noah Weissgoth, the lantern. How have you seen Jeremiah respond to the game that he had? What do you think that says about just his maturity at his age? Yeah, he's been great. You know, we practiced yesterday. And he was flying around excited about the opportunity to go playing a national championship. So, he's always a forward-looking guy. You know, what's next? What's the next challenge? And what do we get to do? And that's kind of what his mindset has been like.

4:06:54And that does speak to his maturity because he's always, what's the next challenge? And I think that's one of the things I love about. Over the right, M.M.K. W.B.N.S. Kind of two-fold. What was your reaction to Jack's challenge? He said, yeah. Oh, sorry. What was your reaction to Jack's challenge? Just excited. I mean, you know, in that situation to be where that drive was, you know, it's first and goal from the one. You have to back-to-back penalties. And then, you know, you're in a one-score game and they're tying it up. And we're talking about when we get the ball back, how much time is left on the clock? And then what can we do in regulation? And then for that whole series of plays, just kind of watching them unfold and what happened. But for Jack and the impact that he has on this program, and to see that whole thing kind of just out of his kind of a story book happening right in front of him. And that's really it. But it was anytime our defense can score a week and return, punts for touchdowns, offensive guys get really excited. Joey Kaufman, what was this bad? How much, or have you watched Lasers gaming against Notre Dame?

4:07:58Is there anything they did in their coverage of Marvin Zillian? Three catches that would be applicable to how they might try to take away Jeremiah? I don't think we looked at it that way. But we looked at that game and then we looked at every game they played this year. They've played Man in Every Game they've played. So it's not like they're doing something special in one game over another game. And they've played some good receivers. There's some teams they've played that have some really talented receivers. And they've done a great job against everybody, whether it's Louisville, SC, people that throw the ball all over the place, they still have done a great job in coverage. And in the numbers, we'll tell you that. So we've got to be prepared for all coverages. And that's the other thing they do that don't just play one coverage. So they're going to mix it up. They try to keep you up balanced. They try to keep the quarterback guessing. They bring different blitzes and attack your pressures in a really good manner. I think Al's background is an NFL guy. You know, being with the Lions and being with the Bengals has really shown there's a lot of NFL concept studies running there. And their players do a great job of adjusting on the fly too. So because people try to confuse them and line up on different formations and move and things like that.

4:08:58And they always seem to sort it out. Dave Vittel 24-7 sports. There's like this narrative out there that I've heard from people that Ohio State wouldn't be here if they didn't lose to Michigan. I'm curious to hear your thoughts. That the Michigan game woke you guys up or got you motivated or made you angry. Do you agree with that or do you think that's nonsense? I've learned a long time ago. I was a coach that I'm not in the narrative. So, you know, I think we live in a week to week world. And that's how we've always approached things. And I think our week to week is just it's the beginning of the week. And what do we do on a Monday? What's a Monday look like? What's a Tuesday look like? What's a Wednesday look like? What's a Wednesday look like? What's a Monday look like? What's a Tuesday look like? What's a Wednesday look like? How's your preparation? All those other things? And you go play the game. And you get about 20 hours to adjust to what happened, whether it was a win or whether it was a loss. And then you move on to the next game. So the narrative part of it isn't something I think coaches really talk about. That this set up that set up this. That's you guys are the experts at writing narratives.

4:09:58We're just trying to get it first down. So I don't look at that from that perspective. All right, we're going to pause locally and we're going to meld into the world wide web and take a few calls on Zoom. Let's open up with Dan Tortora. Dan? Coach, the decision to come over to Ohio State just reflecting on that hindsight, 2020 and what you can say about this experience and the opportunity that presented itself from Coach Day. Yeah, it's been awesome. And I think just really you think about as a coach the day to day. So your ability to what it's like every day you're in the wooding and to be with this staff and and everybody that's in this building and then to be around these players daily basis is. It's what's made this thing really, really special. So excited that we get an opportunity to be together for one more week because this is an extremely close knit group. I think the connection from the players to the coaches and players to players coaches to coaches is is really kind of special. And one of the reasons that we've had this success that we've had. We're going to enjoy these last couple of days here in the wooding and then get on a plane and go to Atlanta and play a game on Monday night.

4:11:03We're going to Kirk Bulls. Kirk? Yeah, Chip, on the Jeremiah Smith thing, I don't know if your game plan called for him to be an all-American decoy or did Texas just do anything special to take him out of your offense? Yeah, Pete and his staff did a really good job on the defensive side of some bracket coverages on Jeremiah. I think we'll really recognize it. That's why Cornell had a bigger game. Our tight ends were really involved. Ameca was really involved. The running back was involved. So that's the one thing about here is we have more than one weapon at our skill positions. So quarterback's got to figure out what they're doing and then take advantage of it. I thought we'll get a really good job with that. Lane Higgins from the Wall Street Journal. Hey there, coach. One of the things I wanted to know is about coach Brian Hartline and obviously it's clear that he has been exceedingly good position coach and asset to the offense.

4:12:05But one of the things that he has done really well is just develop these guys, you know, regardless of whether they're coming in as a four or five star recruit. He's sort of able to pull more out of them. So, you know, given that you've been around many different types of position coaches in your time, what does coach Hartline do that's different or that makes him so good at that specific aspect of the job? Yeah, I think whatever the word is that's better than really, really good is what Brian is. So he's as good a coach as I've been around in all aspects. He can do it all. He can recruit. He can develop players. He can put together a game plan. You know, his knowledge in the passing game is outstanding and we really lean on him a lot in terms of what we're doing from a past standpoint. But his ability to develop players, what he demands from them and individual drills, how he can explain to our players, how you can apply what you're doing and individual drills to the game itself and then watch that manifest itself is really special. But I think Brian is an outstanding football coach and really fortunate they got a chance to work with him this year.

4:13:07And our final Zoom call question, Tony Erwin, Bucket Huddles. Yep, with regards to you guys have been planning for 16 or 17 games since even before you arrived when you did arrive, how quickly was that made a two year attempt in terms of like the running game and how do you think that you were going to be able to train and clinch on have operated in this this split system because they both look as precious they did against Akron. Yeah, I mean, we talked about it from the beginning what our long term plan was because of how long the season was going to be and really didn't have any evidence at the college level because at the FBS level, you never played this many games because it was never a 14 for game playoff for you to get to the championship game. So, you know, we talked about this being a long season and how do we do that? That was the reason they went out and recruited Qt and he got here before I got here, but how do you distribute the carries between those guys and they're eerily close and yardage right now.

4:14:08I don't know the exact difference between the two of them, but it's it's pretty close. I know it was one yard going into the Texas game, so but both those guys are fresh. You're going to need all weapons, you're going to need all hands on deck. We knew this was going to be a battle of attrition, these 16, you know, playing a 16 game schedule. Obviously, we've lost a few guys in Seth and Jimmy and just like everybody else, but the core of our guys are still here and they're going to be fresh when we play on Monday. All right, back to Columbus. Don't know Jim, WCMH. Donnie, did not allow any pressures in Texas. How much progress is he made since early November to now that left tackle? Yeah, Donnie's done, I think, really been an unsung hero there in terms of what he's done because switching from guard to tackle is not as easy as I think maybe some people think it is. You know, it's a totally different game. A lot of times you're out there on an island by yourself. Obviously, you're also protecting the quarterbacks backside, you know, because Will is right handed quarterbacks, so that left tackle position is critical for us.

4:15:11But from where he stepped in and what he did, he's been outstanding. And I think, you know, he was one of our, he was the offensive player of the game. You know, him and Trey, they shared that award this past week against Texas. So, you know, in this building, we recognize what he's done and how he's continued to develop. But I think it speaks to his leadership and, you know, his whole mission of why he came back here and how unselfish he is and that permeates through the whole offensive line and throughout the entire offensive. And I think we all look at Donnie as our leader on this side of the ball. Step on Christy, Cleveland.com. You're talking about the fourth and two run earlier. How big was that play run before with G to gain a couple of yards? How much of that in fact has the way you can call that next play? Yeah, it puts it in a whole different perspective. So, are you making a, are you punting, you know, if you're incomplete on that or then if it's fourth and five, it's definitely a different play call than what we had an opportunity to call. So when you get into fourth and two, you know, you have the ability to run it or throw it to potentially pick up the first down.

4:16:12So, that was big. And I think sometimes you look at games and look at plays that are, you know, sometimes they don't, they don't, they go on notice. But his effort, because he got hit in the yards, he made after contact to put it into fourth and two was, was huge. But that's, that's G and he's done everything since I've been here to just whatever it takes for us to win a game and whatever role you want me to play, I'll play it. And again, one of those senior leaders that has really stepped up in a critical situation. Bill Landis, Kings of the North. Last couple of games, there's been a little help to take for Quinshaw and yards after contact. He had a nice block on the ball against Tramion, kind of ping pong off people on this touch and I'll do a score. What does his physicality bring to your offense? And I guess what's it say about him to be bringing that mentality even though he's not getting the ball 25 times a game. Yeah, and I think he's brought it all year long like that. You know, you look at the run he had in the martial game, you know, with the unblocked linebacker, you know, comes to mind right away and a couple of the other physical runs that, you know, where he set the tone.

4:17:14And I think our players kind of expect that from him, whether he's blocking or whether he's carrying the football. But you got to have a physicality, you know, and you get in to win the whole thing. You know, you're not going to win it by being a passive group. And I think it just sets the tone and shows everybody else that, you know, what those guys are going to do. You know, you look at his block on on trays run on on that play on Friday night against Texas was reminiscent of the block that tray had for him against Penn State. You know, I think that it speaks volumes to both those guys that they're whether they're block whether they're blocking for each other or they're carrying the football in a critical situation down in the red zone. You know, we can count on their physicality and that they're going to deliver a blow to the defense, whether it's as a block or as a bulk area. Dan, let me worry, Chip, when you just evaluate what wills done this season as a whole, what's impressed you most about what he's done to get you guys to this point? I think his leadership and how he grown into that role organically, obviously, almost everybody on offense besides Q. And him were already here, you know, and so to come in and just go to work, you know, and I think the players respected his work ethic and the time he put in and they watched him grow and develop.

4:18:23And in the football party was when they first saw him in the spring to the football player that he is right now, you know, you can see him growing and leaps and bounds. He's fitting great with all of his teammates, but they noticed the things behind closed doors, how hard he works at the game, how much he studies football, how he puts ourselves and gives us an opportunity because he handles a lot of checks for us. And we do a lot of things at the line of scrimmage because he can have that on his plate and he can handle it. And I think his decision making has really allowed us to do a lot of different things, both run in, pass-wise in games. So watching him continue each week, we can put more on his plate. And so we're always not a, we're never going to be a play behind because he can put us in the right situation, has really been a joy as a coach to watch him do that. Bill, we're been with Columbus Disbash. When you guys lost Josh and Seth, I mean, most people probably thought that you were in a lot of trouble. Was that a narrative? Yes, very much so. Very much so.

4:19:23I'm learning. Thank goodness we were just day to day. But what did you do and Justin and Ryan and the players do to kind of get it together and not be a liability? I mean, it's schematically, mentally, whatever it might have been. Yeah, I think it's a combination of all of it. You know, when you now have different players, different personnel pieces in there, you know, what do they do well and how do we actually went that? And then how do we kind of protect maybe what a weakness is on those guys because you got two different guys in there. So, you know, it wasn't at the same time with both those guys. So there was a transition there for a little bit when, you know, when Jimmy went down and, and, um, down he moved out and Carson jumped into a guard and, and Seth was still there, you know, really kind of running the show when I think kind of helped us whether that storm initially. And then when we lost Seth up and Carson in, you know, and then starting to rotate the guards, you know, it was a whole nother thing. So, you know, kind of two separate things, but I think Justin deserves a ton of credit for what he did and how we, how we worked with all those guys.

4:20:27And I think they got a really good understanding of what we're trying to get accomplished. And I think our job is, you know, to try to put them in position and play and then let them go play. And I think they've done a really good job with that. So, you know, that's, that speaks to the depth of this team. We knew it was going to be tested when you play this many games. But the fact that we could whether that speaks to the really how that whole line in the cohesiveness of the entire group. So, and finally, Tim May, that has been wrote. It can add just two files. Number one following up on that, Justin Pratt told me that one of the things that stood out to him was the way we'll stepped up in a leadership way with the offensive line when Seth went down. You were out there on the practice field or wherever it happened and stuff. But what did you notice from that dynamic also? A quarterback literally taking ownership of a situation there and instead of hanging heads going the opposite direction. No, I think it's a good point. I think one of the things is conscious of, you know, what's going on?

4:21:32He's very aware. And so not only did we lose a great player in Seth, we lost a great leader in Seth. So, you know, there was a little bit of a vacuum from a leadership standpoint. And so, Will did a great job. I think between Will and Donny, you know, those are the two real leaders of those guys up front and bringing those other guys along with him. So, that was evident to us after Seth went down. That, you know, both Will and Donny kind of stepping up and filling that void with losing Seth. Because Seth was such a great leader from that group up front. And he's a remington award winner, too. And the other thing, like Tony Gurderman asked you this while ago, but I wanted to follow up on this aspect of what is it like as an office coordinator to be going in the last game of the year? And all of your weapons are available to you. It appears in your offensive line is founded, Seth, over the last four games. What is that feeling like as you sit there in your office and look at your playbook, your pad or your computer, whatever you have your plays on, etc. Do you feel like the whole world is open to you? Create.

4:22:32I mean, what is that, what is that sense? You do until you turn the tape on and look at their defense and say, I don't know if that play is going to work against them. I don't know if that play is going to work against them just because of how good they are defensively. Not just the one thing in our week of preparation and going into it is just how much respect we have for Notre Dame's defense and what they can do. And what they've done against everybody they played. You watch those guys play as a fan of football, you just kind of admire how cohesive that entire group is and then how hard that group plays. So credit to Marcus and Al for how those guys got those guys playing right now. So as to Dave, you've had an answer. I mean, if people do take this away from you, you've got that. Do you feel like you've got that going into the year? I understand exactly where you're saying, but I don't know any coach that ever feels like that. I don't think there's any coach six days before the national championship that thinks I got this. Yeah, you did. Yeah, you did.

4:23:32Well, Notre Dame has a Jeremiah Smith, a current LTA in the Meckig Boocke, for example. I know and we're really, really, really happy that we have them. But we also have great respect for who we're going against and it's going to be a battle. I think that's the great part of it. You have the two best teams in football playing against each other. And it wasn't voted on that these two teams play. It was earned by both teams. So it's an opportunity to go against Marcus and Al and what they're going to put out there defensively. And then those players, you watch Crocs and Kaiser and Watson, the rest of that group play. As a fan, I admire how hard that group plays on defense. And if you're a competitor, that's what you want to play against. So we played two SEC teams in an opportunity to beat them. We played the number one team in the country and we beat them. So now this is the next challenge and the next challenge is an outstanding Notre Dame team. We're excited about the opportunity. Go play it. Go through it. It's hands on technique, the game of SC, you know, things like that. Both Chip Kelly and Ryan Davis talked a lot about communication getting better from big two.

4:24:35How did you see that manifest on the field? The communication amount of proof was last week compared to the opponent. We put a lot of older guys like Seth and Farron, you know, stepping up and communicating. And you know, leading this offensive line and Seth Farron, now Donovan, you know. So yeah, we allowed the older guys to lead and we followed the Tigers or something. Even actually about those big rounds and we guys started turning out. It's hand-pulsed here, but did it beat off each other? Absolutely. And when you see defensive, when you see defensive start arguing with each other and things like that, I mean, that makes it a lot easier, you know, to have those 10-11 plays around. What was that like? It's a nice, well, it started feeling like you guys were feeling that way. Thank you for being on. It's a good, quite good round for all of you and they got to be the second match. I mean, it feels good to rip off these runs because I mean, we put them so much work on those. It's a great practice. You know, seeing a brother, you know, that Aaron Murray, you know, he's doing this.

4:25:38So, you know, Seth, reserve sense that this offensive line wise is just prepared this week. And Donovan back in there, they told him, oh, first time really, this season. You know, it's not particularly in Austin. It's just more of Donovan Jackson, pretty seasonal American, etc. I mean, enjoying the groove, you know. Donovan Jackson is a very good football player, you know. Everyone who's on the field, he makes his presence tough. I mean, we've all been training a lot. There's no margin, just go through when you go. It's him, we know it can be. Yeah, there's a seat to be. There was a sense when he's watching you guys last week. No, or even more of a course, it felt like watching you guys. Maybe even any other day, did it feel like that day? Yeah, I mean, we put in the work during practice. We practice really hard. Coach Day really challenged us to practice hard. I was just a result of it. When it's rolling like that, what does it feel like being in the midst of that? Being in the moment. It's us. When you work hard for something and you're able to see, like, what comes out of it, like, there's no better feeling in it.

4:26:41Hey, Graff, can you hear me? I'm going to be in the middle of the game. Hey, don't forget. It's a good feeling that he was swaying you. No, I mean, I was really funny to see. Thank you. Maybe I'm pretty good at it. What has Seth been up for? We've brought you guys for the first two games. What's it been like playing XN for the last two? He's, you know, he's really calm and stormy. You never see real panic and having a guy like that mess you and, you know, you're having really played as many meetings for snaps. There's no one outside of the rest of my left and some of my right. For Seth. Those guys, they do so much for this offensive line. People have talked about his intelligence really kind of showing up in the film room and on the field. Where have you noticed that intelligence and how has that helped you?

4:27:44Yeah, like I said, and crunch time, you know, when things aren't exactly looking like how we practice it, you know, having a guy like that, like we'll do this, this, this, and then we execute having a guy like that like this. There's none better than that. You wrote? What you got? I'm very from this one. What's my favorite cake? Well, I'm rather... I don't know. I almost came back with a couple of suns and I guess some more. Take a look at it Marshall. They got a couple guys with a deep bits of blood that has big tin rotting. What do you see when you look at their tape and see 15, 7, and a couple of those guys are pretty big. Yeah, and those guys, they're real players.

4:28:47They're real players. They go hard, you know, they're real players over there. We've been practicing to the best of our abilities, you know, and the spec. And I'm prepared for that. You see, they've been re-gchecking the last year. They take the... Yeah, they play a good ball over there and you know, their defense plays hard. They challenge teams, you know, sometimes they might be overlooked and they still challenge teams. You can tell they come out there with the mentality like no matter who's in front of the opponent. Like the woman else. The woman has to be in the back. What has been the biggest challenge? I mean, the actions right there, right in front of you right now, which is kind of a good thing and kind of a bad thing. You should shift off the rest, you know, hitting back in it. Inside... Can you talk to your coach? Yeah, I mean, I hear from Chris every once in a while trying not to bother him too much, but it's always good to hear from guy like that, guys like the one.

4:29:55Even Matt Jones returning back. All right, Tyler, thank you. I'm going to have more of the deer right now. I think KJ here, I'm going to answer that. I don't know what to say about that. What do you guys think? I don't know. I go guys every day, you know. This man is strong. Ready? I'm talking about, like, you get the basketball field. You can just do a thing, like, he recalves really fast, just the overall strength that he has. And he got the grip right in the back. He doesn't give up on the play, and like you said, he's going to go in there and watch the film. He's doing everything better, and then you should see the hundred field like this one. So now, you can see the improvement of the game. Here, if he was far off the ground, I'll be like... He sounded like a coach, man. He sounded like a coach. Chip Kelly's in for the change. Your mind about maybe like the idea of tackle versus guard. Because obviously his offensive, federal election was for like offensive line play, and one game.

4:31:00As you can, a part of you settling in the guard? I want to say maybe, I don't know, but I mean, when I'm pretty sure he got the job, I was really excited because I'm one of those guys. The tempo, I can run with the tempo, you know what I mean? I'm playing basketball all life in set up football, and I feel like just the fast pace often, so we're running. It really fits the guys we have right now, I'm really excited for that. I know you can throw a football like 65 yards, but can you kick a football? 75 yards like Lincoln just did. No. Probably question. Lincoln, what's your question? How is your room amp at the view? He's a blessing, man. I can't complain. He's a great guy. What's the name? His name's Lincoln. He's clean hose. Oh, he's cleaner. I think we're both really clean. That's why we kind of picked each other's roomies because we're very clean. We don't like our rooms really messy. Well, it's true though. It's true. They're both pretty clean stuff. Luke, are you still cross training at Tagel some or have you just been all guard this spring?

4:32:03So far, I've been all guard. I really don't know. Like I said, I'm taking it practice, I practice. I could end up being back at Tagel I could not, but I'm just really focused in on this past practice and the next one. What do you mean? You want to be in a high old country? Yeah. Oh, that mean a lot. You put a lot of work in to play here. And it's been a dream just for being in Ohio kids. I'm from a Ohio kids perspective. I mean, that's the biggest wish possible. I would say that's going to be pretty cool. What was it like just last year at first game getting on the field for the first time? It didn't fly. It's going to be a weird answer, but it feels like I was playing a game yet. That makes sense. I was pretty locked in. I felt like just no anxiousness, no stress, no nothing. I just went in that first game. I was like, shoot out here now. It's time to roll. It didn't really hit me. I was like, it didn't hit me after. I was like, what would you feel there? And if I get out there at Indiana, I just like, honestly, I don't know. I felt less nervous. I didn't high school. That makes no sense. What is your favorite game? What is your favorite game? What is your favorite game?

4:33:09A lot. I mean, I'm learning from Josh Ann Austin. I think, prior to one of my biggest role models here, my big brother and my first game over here. So I'm up to Dia. Yeah, okay. No. Yeah. Yeah. So yeah, I'm up to Dia. Those are my guys, man. I mean, even Miles too. I mean, all three of them. Those are my roommates and they're progressing every day as well. And I'm excited to see where they can get to. I'm excited to plan and feel with them. Oh, yeah. You know, it's been really helpful. You know, just keeping my mind just settled and straightforward on the next blood. What do you think they just stand? It's a great question. Like I said, I mean, I just need to take consistent in my work. I think that's the biggest thing for me is just ain't consistent. I'm worried about the next blood. So that's the first complaint I was good. I was just rolling. Also, it's a weird thing. It was also the first start. Yeah. You, yeah. It's, but like I prepared well and camp and practice all week.

4:34:12And I was, I was ready. Yeah. I have two multi-year starters. I did a lot. I mean, I couldn't ask them, hey, what we got here? But I was prepared well. I mean, I was telling Jimmy and said, like, hey, we play our blocks. Probably emotional. What is it? What is it? What does it mean? It started. It was always my dream to come here and play and start and having that play. I just got to keep going and keep building those days and those games and keep building. What a much younger Austin. No, not I don't think even I told like me, I asked my younger self, even committed here. I wouldn't believe that now having a couple of starts. Awesome. Has this happened faster than you? I guess you're technically a sophomore.

4:35:12No, I knew that you two. I was going to see you some playing time now starting week one year two. I didn't see that, but like I was ready in spring ball. I knew I was going to play some stuff. What does it mean to you to not only get the opportunities to play, but like you play well enough now, coaching staff trust you. They put out there, whatever situation. So that's the earn that so early on the year. I guess it shows like my preparation, my hard work and just everything I put into this. And I just finally show up on a field. There are moments, the top season, the end of the spring, and the end of the season. I don't realize that you could play at this high level, with the ones. Yeah, but definitely was in training camp. I mean, blocking highly can tie every day. It feels a lot of confidence in doing it well and not getting balled or anything. There's defensive tag wasn't that easy.

4:36:14Hero in Jason Moore and Taiwan. All those guys, pretty much anyone on the defensive line gets your face all the time. And Kay and Mack as well. Yeah. I'm a more collected pal of the stability. How much can he help you? He helped me a lot. And I'm proud that he's our starting center, not someone else's. But I mean, he's like the captain of the line. He's another voice on the line with guys like Josh Fryer and Josh Simmons, Donnie and Tiger. That means another voice and another captain. Look, ways of having that. And I'm with this much experience. I mean, a lot. I mean, I can tell you like before the play was going on and like how to block someone like we need to do. And it helps a lot. Tiger, talking about how calm he is. How much does that benefit of you? You have a guy who's kind of been there and seen a lot of us.

4:37:16It makes us more calm, especially me and Dave, as our first star. So like we were up here with what's said, like he brought us down. I mean, we were like five. Like our emotions weren't high. Is that like something he tells you? Is that something you pick up on by how he's acting? How do you kind of sense what he's trying to do? It's how he's acting. And what I mean, him. When we're on the side of him, both Josh Donnie, like he was telling us like, Hey, cool. Like we got it. But it's pretty much like everyone. Oh cool group. How much do that? As a first time starter, how much did you add to that? Me a lot. That was my first time ever using iPads. We didn't use the iPads in high school. I mean, you can say like try to remember the defense. You can come on a silent and bring them. We're playing to help them. Really. Probably the first or second, but after that, I thought we say all right. Awesome. Thank you very much. You're not growing.

4:38:16So it's just experience. Go ahead back to Denver. You mentioned have his ability to bounce back. How have you seen him approach this week? Particularly. Same as always. Same as always. Professional, resolved, competitive. You know, Gonzalez always been the same. He's always competing. And no matter who we're playing, you know, he's trying to get better. Jeremy Birmingham, follow up. Jim, I know the statistical output of that Oregon game in October is an anomaly for sure on the season, but it was sort of an inflection point. It seems, at least from the outside looking in, on some structural things within the defense. How confident are you that it's fixed based on the fact that in the last seven games, you really haven't played someone that would be equivalent to what Oregon did to the offensive?

4:39:19Yeah. I'm always confident that it's fixed. And then of course, you know, you always stay up at night concerned about other things. So it's a process. Obviously we have to go out there and do it. You know, it's every game day is a test. You know, it's a test. Every game day is a test. No matter what is done previously, you know, you don't get any credit for that. You got to go out there and prove yourself. So David, tell me where did that? Andrew Saga, obviously, was playing more and more. What did you see from him when he arrived on campus, allegedly? He could play early on. What did you see from him now? He said he was when he didn't get on. Yeah, he's got great strength and competitiveness.

4:40:20You know, he's one of those guys who comes in early and things don't seem too big for him. You know, a lot of guys need that transition time. He's a guy that, you know, he'll make mistakes, but he'll learn from them. He really lets it roll off his back, and that's what you need to learn to play early at this level. You got to keep your fire. You got to keep your intensity, and you got to know you're going to make mistakes, you know, and not let him get you down. I think that can hamper a lot of young guys early, because you're going to make mistakes. But, Edrick, there's a guy who's got a great personality and great energy, and he just keeps going. Dr. Berry, WBNS. Jim, you have said that you have great confidence in your defense. What gives you the confidence? What's the room like? Do you see an edge with your guys? Yeah, there's an edge. There's veterans. You know, I think that always gives you confidence when you have veterans.

4:41:25There's no panic, you know. If we give up a play or something negative happens, I mean, there's no panic. Guys know how to fix things. There's a lot of communication back and forth. You know, there's a lot of resolve to do whatever it takes to win the game. You know, no matter what happens during that game, our guys don't flinch. You see that they want this rematch? I mean, obviously, you got beat on the win the national title would get to the next level. But is this a game you guys have been pointed to that you want and you hope to win? I mean, you always hope for a second shot when you don't do well. And that's life, you know. A lot of times you don't get them. So we have a chance to do better and be better. But in terms of the week to week process, I think, you know,

4:42:28when you have a team that's together with veteran leadership, the week to week process stays the same. You know, no matter who we're playing, the point has always been for us to be at our best to get better from the week before, get better from earlier in the season and keep improving. And we've seen games with JT had his best wrecking opponents jack at the end of last year. But it feels like there haven't been many, if any, games where they were both as productive at the same time as they were last week. Is that a fair assessment? Would you agree with that? Can you think of anything else that was close from those two together? I mean, in my mind, they're both great players and great young men. You couldn't find better guys. So I probably don't see it kind of the way that you guys do. Because I'm seeing every play and every block and run game and everything that goes into it.

4:43:31I know you guys with fans tend to just see the highlights, you know. But they've been consistent throughout my tenure here. There were been a lot of comments. The word that was used out of the Oregon game was reengineering from the defense. I'm not expecting you to divulge too many details, although be happy if you did. What really did change structurally, maybe psychologically, whatever. What was the big difference after that game? And how hard was that for you being a veteran coach and having to reassess where you did that? Yeah, it wasn't hard at all. I think if you're going to survive in this profession and grow, not just survive, but grow and get better. You always have to look at yourself. You have to see things that happen on the field and go back to how did I coach that?

4:44:32How did I prepare for that? You have to take responsibility. Probably when I was younger, that was hard. Because you're... You take it personally. I think now my job is to not be emotional about it. My job is to fix it. That's my job. You got to evaluate it. You got to... You can't blame the players. I think that's the biggest thing. You have to go back to how you're coaching in your process. In terms of the changes, if I could write them all down for you, I would. But I wouldn't anyway. I don't think I could.

4:45:33It's just a matter of seeing what's wrong, what happened, and fixing it. That's it. I think the organum is only getting germane and didn't play in. I don't know if you remember what went into that decision to stick with Dintel and Davis and the Ed and the growth. Did you see some germane that made you think that he's made you more ready to play in the game like this? I don't recall what went into that. But I know germane should play and we trust him. He's been getting in there more and we consider him a starter. Like Cody Simon was for the first two years I was here. He's that next guy but we can put him in the game at any time. If anything happens, he could play the whole game. We're going to pause the live portion of this press conference. Go to the World Wide Web.

4:46:33I think we have a question there from Joey Kaufman from the Columbus Dispatch. I don't understand. Oh. Oh, it's my bad. I don't explain things to you. Hi Jim, I'm still live. Just with my... Where are you? We're in California. What did I ask about Dylan Gabriel and his ability to avoid sacks is good in his ability to avoid pressures turning into sacks. What do you remember about that first match with him and make some tough in that area? And just how confident you feel about your pastures being able to get home in those situations now versus where it was in October? He's really good at that. So whether it was our game or any game, you have to have a plan for that.

4:47:37We're going to have a plan for it. I think the fact that of the matter is he's going to get out. He's going to try to make plays with his feet and then deliver the ball. Or scramble. So we have to be very aware of it in both the coverage and the rush. We're going to stick with the Zoom call. We have an Andreas Soto. Andres, you're on. Hi Dylan coach, I'm on desktop from the early times. JT has really been one of your anchors defensively along that B line. What does he do that specifically that helps set the tone for you guys up front? JT does everything. You couldn't ask for a better player in terms of the combination of skills that he has, both in the run game, the past game and making outstanding play.

4:48:40He does it all and he does it with a very consistent demeanor and leadership skills. Everybody looks up to him, including me. He's just an all round great player and a great person. We'll go now to Cameron T. Robinson from the athletic camera. Jim, I know Oregon's often to a little different than some of the ones that you guys have played this year. But I mean both Indiana Tennessee this year have been pretty explosive in the past game. And you guys were able to slow them down. You haven't given up a lot of explosives since that game. What do you think changed for you all or is it just just a mix of pressures and everything we're kind of working at once? Yeah, that's all in the mix. You got to apply the mix and we talk about explosive plays all the time. So I think maybe when you get burned by some it becomes real, you know, even more real for you.

4:49:44So there's just been a continued emphasis on it. Okay, well, I'm back from the team. Maybe we're all Spencer Holbrook, Letterman Role. Yeah, Jim, I think Ken Hattick played the most snaps he's ever played against the right team. And I probably was doing it with some of the second half stuff that you did. But what have you guys seen in him? His growth and things you guys want to have him on the field and some critical moments there. Of that type of scenario. He's really talented, really talented young man. And you know, he's moved himself into that position through it. He's moved through his work ethic and things he's shown us in practice and in games. He's just, he's moved himself into that area where he could be a starter and he's earned it. I think it's a good penalty at all, but obviously the one that he had Saturday, the question of going, yes.

4:50:45Do you like appreciate that almost even though he gets call for it and he's being aggressive and he makes that kind of mistake rather than being like a Tim and Guy in that kind of opportunity? Yeah, I mean, he didn't do anything wrong. You know, he didn't do anything wrong. So yeah, we highlight his effort. That's a really tough call, you know, because you're into the quarterback, you know. So it's one of those things that's like, okay, I'm into the quarterback. If he pulled the ball down and I landed on him, that wouldn't be a penalty. You know what I mean? So if I'm here, okay, well, pull it down, sack. That's not a penalty. But release the ball and then it's a penalty, you know. So it wasn't late, it wasn't dirty, it was clean in my eyes. And so we highlight it for sure.

4:51:46Got time for a couple more. Tim made a lot of it wrong. Yeah, by the way, I think it's ACC officials again. That's what Spenstone me anyway. I call him three safes. Jordan Hancock, I count that group. You know, talk about this a little bit before, but going into this game, compared to that sixth game, how much more do you feel free to do things with those guys? You understand what I'm saying? I mean, no of those three guys, Caleb and, and late them especially. And I guess what was the lesson learned and safety use in that first game? I can't give away all of that. But you're right. You're right. We've grown Jordan a little bit, right? So he's able to do more things. So I think you're right. We're able to do more things. Who of those guys has really come on in the last six games from your opinion, Jim? Were they all three playing at a great level? I mean, just, yeah, they've been solid. They've really been solid. I mean, I can't, you know, I think they've all been great.

4:52:53And finally, Bill Landis, Kings of the North. Jim, to the point of developing Jordan to do more things, it does seem like you're able to do a little more kind of three high structures where Caleb is in the middle. And sometimes he looks like he's playing middle linebacker. What is it about Caleb's skill set, I guess, that allows you to perhaps unlock some more with your safety? Yeah, exactly. I mean, I know you guys really watch the film and analyze it. So yeah. Yeah, I mean, you have a guy like Caleb Downs. You know, a lot of times you don't want to get him removed from a position to make plays, right? Because Caleb is a guy who can track the run and play the pass. So in that kind of setup, you kind of keep him closer to the action. You know, and he's a guy that we need to make plays and he can't in the run and in the pass game.

4:53:58I guess what got you to the point where you sort of evolved to doing more of that? I don't know that we saw a whole lot of the first half of the season. Yeah. You know, again, looking at how we can do things better. I've done it in the past, you know, so just wanting to get him involved more too. You know, he's a guy, like I said, who can make a lot of plays and make a lot of things right. He can make a lot of people right. So you think about how to get him involved more and that's one of the ways to do it. Coach, thank you very much. You can play a lot of high level for a long time and help with the value of getting five or unifold with that thing. You know, especially with how long the season is going to be, it's not going to take five. It's going to take six, seven, maybe eight, hopefully not eight, but they could. So I think it's invaluable that we had those experiences together. You know, the first five have to be able to do it in the first six or seven have to be able to do it too.

4:55:00So you mentioned being like one block away on some of those sides. You know, you're trying to get you to run in your career. Like how long does it take for an offensive line to convert that and not beat this one block away? Is it just kind of a randomness with every season with every team? Kind of randomness. We just have to keep going and, you know, sometimes when you miss one block, it's kind of like, go crap. I knew I was supposed to do that. It's just a matter of doing it. I don't know. Does it feel close though? Yeah. I mean, the way the guys approach each day to prepare for the game. I think we're getting closer to that. And, you know, it's game one. We got, you know, a few good games to, you know, really work on that. And I'm not our technique in our chemistry. What it sounds like and it seems like, you know, watching guys too is it's a lot of coachable things and a lot of things that can be addressed in the film room rather than just guys getting people out of the game. Would you, is that how you would assess it as well? I mean, it's just guys. I mean, we're coached to do. We have the techniques. We have the toolbox to do it. It's just a matter of doing it. What's it like having a will being so invasive?

4:56:02Is it quarterback? Is it going to be able to escape a sack when he needs to make plays on the run as a passer? What's that like having a quarterback with it? Yeah, it really helps. It definitely helps the offense line look better. And you got a guy that, you know, that's a so experienced like that being able to avoid the rush. As long as you're playing hard, you have faith that the guys back there's not going to get sacked. So, if you just keep blocking through the echo of the whistle, good things will happen to the align. You? I think I played decently well for being the first game, but there's a good thing is there's a ton of things to work on. It's definitely not a finished project. There are product for any guy on the align, but there's definitely a ton to improve. You got a problem with the stamps. The one time you double blushed it, I knew it. I knew it. It was just a matter of communication thing. For you, how have you felt your command and leadership? Like, expressed in that first game, or are you where you want to be with that? And I guess coordinating the protection.

4:57:02Everything that we do. From a leadership standpoint, I'm just, I'm challenging myself to be the guy that somebody can emulate. I've had, you know, leaders in the past that'll just yell, yell, yell, yell. So, hey, we got to go harder, go harder, but he's not the one going the hardest. So, I'm really just trying to put an emphasis on that for myself. Be the guy that people can emulate. And when I say something, I want it to mean something. So, I have to put myself in the position to have that role. Did you think of your first game in the middle of Iowa Stadium? When you gave it up? It was awesome. The school session was awesome. Like, I walked in there and I was just, I was so grateful to be here. I started tearing up at like the, how exciting everything was. And it's a blessing to be here. And it's a blessing to be in this environment. And I'm really, really proud of all the fans walking to the stadium. It's incredible. I'm just going to give you a new phrase, walk, move, move, make, you got tacked. The rest are kind of what, what does that do with your line? What does that do?

4:58:02It's definitely motivating. I'm not sure how much your weigh is in your 220, whatever. When a guy like that can do it, hopefully guys that are 300 pounds can do it. I didn't see it. They ran an internal stunt. I was blocking the line back of this way all of a sudden. I was like, what the heck? He got up and started screaming. But running backs that can be involved in protection like that, it's big. After three or four of those pops, those linebackers aren't going to be coming in and running down, trying to get the quarterback. They're going to be like, go crap, where's the running back at? I got to avoid him before I get to the quarterback. That, thank you very much. I appreciate you all. It's time to just call us on the line, like being able to develop as a player. Obviously not going into super wide, I know, because I've played in those games. I've played it to him in North, I've played it here against Penn State. I played out Wisconsin, sorry, I played out in Notre Dame, which is an electric. So being able to develop that skill of being calm and calm in the storm has been really developmental for me. Especially this next year, you know, playing in Eugene in Penn State and all those big places like that, it'll be really helpful.

4:59:15Yeah, and like being as young as I was is very hard to kind of understand, because looking at a guy like Luke Woupler, you know, a Jersey guy, a big tough rug. You know, I want to be like that, but I'm not that yet. And I think trying to be that kind of like bigger than I was at the time, looking back on it wasn't really kind of the best for me. Obviously playing was super awesome, it's just for me, it was more of a developmental year, and looking into that as I'm going to grow a lot from this, and looking back on that there's some mistakes. I'm like, there's no way I'd make that right now. There's no reason why I would do that, but I just needed that to develop into what I have to do. So I'm super grateful for it. In my mind, I felt prepared. Looking back now, you're like, wow, I can't really know anything.

5:00:17But I think just the confidence I had, not only in myself, but like the guys around me, like Donnie and Matt, and leaning on their years of expertise and how much they've gone through has really helped. Because maybe sometimes I'd be looking at them, I don't really understand this, and there'd be Donnie or Josh Fryer, but I know this is what we're looking at. I'm like, okay, it makes a lot more sense now to help me become kind of the point of the guy from the line and stuff like that to make those kind of calls that we need to. So, I think it's something that I can really focus on. Coach Fryer always says you know that the best Bible play. That's regardless of the position, and I don't really have any like here or there when it comes to what position. If I can play, I'll be more than happy, whatever I'm at. But you know the best Bible play, and I think it's a really good job facilitating and rolling as a different position and stuff like that.

5:01:18So I'm not really sure what they have in store for us, but we'll see if it was going to spring and then going into the summer because all that can change as well. Currently I've been all centered. You mentioned that you're under size, what's your weight at now? I weighed in today at 298, so I'd like to bump that up to 300, like 303 if I could. Like a real 303, not drinking it or it's trying to do up to 303, but that probably the end goal to really get my legs and feel that leverage going against guys like him. What has been like of bulking up as you've got here every one hour? You can ask here, he's my roommate. He's been force feeding me kitchen social. But I was doing that, drinking and weight protein, she's getting in touch with killer, our nutritionists, her and Zoe are super awesome. Kind of they've developed a good plan for us to get up to that weight because you know if you can play heavier and more in your legs like why won't you leave them money at the table. I think for me last year I was like I really struggled with that kind of discipline of keeping my weight up and playing way way lighter than I should have been.

5:02:25Like two days weight too crazy. And I think that this year like developing with coach making stuff like that it's like real weight. It's not like kind of fake water we water we wait it's like real like I can play my legs now a lot more. You were kind of into 80 at times last year? I was really low that was like at the beginning of your back on it back up obviously. I don't know if it was that because I had all that like help on the line with me I wouldn't say it was a trial by fire but it was definitely a big learning experience. Especially for a young guy who wouldn't do it not playing a single snap. I remember I was so nervous before the Indiana game I'm like literally shaking him like tearing up and stuff and I'm like oh my legs are real. Going into what you think like I'll put all this work on I should be there and then you like I said I'd go back and you watch the tape this year I'm like what what am I doing. So I think it's like it's such a good developmental year for me that I'm super so grateful for that experience and then going into this year trying to learn off that and learn off what we've learned this spring into the summer.

5:03:33I think it's going to be really good. If you want to do yourself now just like a practice or a practice you can pair doing what you want to take with what you do last year. What works and trying to yourself as the biggest game of you experience? Mostly just playing in my like height and playing in my leverage. I would always have a problem with like really tight ankles and playing like tall my toes and whatever I got high hips and like I'll play that. That's when I get snagged and tossed. And then just like more recognition of what's going on having the game slow down with you because the more you grow you kind of feel like the game obviously doesn't really slow down. You're going to get faster every year but it starts to slow down a little bit for you. So like you just kind of see last year me kind of like jeering kind of figuring out what I'm doing and then that's where I end up in those bad situations. But this year it's more like film study and more study with the coaching stuff like that. I can find myself in better positions of power and making the right blocks. Is this not 100% knowing exactly what you're doing and that's not a coaching problem that's not.

5:04:34Obviously it's a me problem but it just comes with reps and it comes with experience when you haven't had that before. Do you have a notice that I have a lot of coaching stuff like that? Jeering is kind of a rough word for it but it's just kind of like you know you're indecisive as a better word when you know when you know you're 100% ready to make this block you play so much faster. And this year when I've been able to do that I played obviously I'm facing the same way. How many times do you think and what does it take to perfect that? I think we've read the least I don't know how many times I've practiced over the weeks that we had off. I mean just came down to you know they press me we taking a shot that's what they told me the weeks we was off. And he told me before the game in the locker room I just got to give you a shot and that's what he did and I just made a play. The first game to get historic and just how tough was that challenge against their secondary? You know you have to finally get the end of the game but you guys made plays all day long against them.

5:05:37What's your thought about the challenge those guys gave you? I say the challenge is going to be a good challenge they have some great global guys there. Jabal Muhammad number seven, Niko Rhee, other corner of my knowledge over there they're great global guys. I mean probably the best we go see all year for sure. We just got a good name you know Bio-Haiyo State. Tony German, fuck I have a name. So why are you not open? I don't know probably when the whole team on me I should say I mean I'm always open to me for sure. I mean just no throw the ball in my area I'm going to find a way to make a play as I always say. Step on Christ Nick, leave it on dot com. You talked earlier about you know some of the great athletes that you got challenged and you aspire to be like I guess where's that confidence kind of come from for you? How long have you had that confidence that you have the ability to be one of the greatest in this sport? I mean a lot of people tell me that I'm going to be great at what I do since I was about going to high school.

5:06:42A lot of people tell me that I mean just you know football is all I know and that's all I really want to do. I live, breathe, sleep, football. That's all I really care about. Don't care about everything outside of football like football is all I know and I just want to play football rest of my life. Thanks for all of our lettering and roll. It seemed like you have a little where we tried to collect on some of those deep balls throughout the year. You'll be able to finally do those in that moment. That was kind of carried that forward. Was it the same about the way that you guys have been able to continue to progress? I mean just you know the weeks that we had all we were just working on deep shots because they tell us in meetings that we have. We got to take sauce down fill. We just got to connect on them and you know will tell me before before the games like I said. You just got to throw the ball out then just give me a chance and I'm going to make a play for you. That's what that's what you told me and I just got to make a play for you. Adam King don't you be honest. We can all joke we can all talk about the expectations and the start of this become you know you were just 13 games.

5:07:42How do you handle that? I mean just a freshman how do you take all these expectations know when you step on the field that you're always open and still go out there and play? I mean expectations I mean I can't know how you're staying for a reason that's what I wanted. Want to be challenged I want the expectation. Expectations I should say. I mean coach hotline just helped me throughout the whole year just preparing me for each game each week. I'm a mecha book a carnival tape and it's really the whole receiver on just help me stuff. I don't really know about it just help me throughout the whole week and I can't really say it's all on me because my talent is but they really been a big part of the reason. I'm having the season that I'm having for sure. Andrew Gillips, Cleveland.com. Jeremiah over a thousand years, 12th of December, first year. When you look back at your freshman year what was the most difficult part about adjusting to the college game? What was the part that you had the hardest part about trying to train this one? Learning that playbook. I playbook is something that was just coming in spring ball.

5:08:45Me just new plays in every week. I'm like, what is this? This new plays every day in coach hotline. Like you go you go you go you go you go you go you got no summer fall camp you go be straight. So I mean just you know that's it. That's definitely was the hardest part just learning the playbook and a lot of other things has to say for sure. You kind of get that down. How long will it take you to feel comfortable with the playbook? I'm pretty sure I got it down. Pat right now but net season I really want to learn everything the HZ. Yeah I really want to learn everything in the playbook for net sure for sure. That might be 24-7 sports. You mentioned how many guys in my table you did not feel out there. So when you are one-on-one and Will's talked about when he sees you be one-on-one. What is going through your mind as you wind up and realize there's one guy covering you. Wind that's all I could say. I mean that's a coach hotline. We do something like in a hotel Friday night before the game. He asked me like a question like you get one-on-one something like that.

5:09:46He asked me what do you do I say when and everybody just start laughing. I don't know where I be like it's true like you got a win you're one-on-one about. So yeah. I'll be right there. Landers. King of the North. Jeremiah they moved you around. Someone going to send a seat to the point where you get a couple matchups against linebackers. Yeah. What goes through your mind when you find yourself matched up against the linebackers. I just start laughing in my head a little bit. I mean linebackers can't really cover receivers like that. So I just know like it's most likely going to be open. But you know they just try to move me around a lot because you know people try to bracket me when I'm outside just alone by myself. So that's why there's been me around the lot. Or less male or more in the land. Jeremiah you mentioned the most difficult part of your freshman campaign. Has been learning the playbook. What has been the best part so far? The best part. Just being in a room with a great group of receivers.

5:10:48So me just going out there competing. Each and every day learning from the best. Make a book of cardinal. Tags and learning from them guys. I should say that's been the best part of learning from coach hard line. Just gaining more knowledge that I could use over the next two to three years that I'm here. I should say. So yeah. Okay we're going to wrap things up with a question from our zoom call. Joey Coffin. Columbus this back. Yeah. Jeremiah how much. Has have you thought about the way the working game ended with the for you and I cover with the passing experience call is that that on your mind at all. You as you kind of get ready for this game and what are your memories of that call when you're feeling about that. Yeah I think about our call probably every day. I mean just no this is a crazy call. I mean just. I mean the DB was holding me just clear this hands. I guess receivers can't be physical in football anymore. But DB's go hold 10 yards 15 yards down the field. So I mean it's behind me.

5:11:49I just know how know to move here and out when the DB is grabbing me. I just know how to move now. You know can't be I guess can't be physical as receiver and college football anymore. But we'll just see how things play out this game. Jeremiah thank you very much. Well I wasn't seeing eye die certain areas and certain aspects with just with my coach hard and hard day but we like I said we cleared that up and even though it took some time and that's what I had to do to get that. And that's what it was but I mean we're pretty much past that now we're just really moving on getting in the strangers really giving them all for them and giving them all to the team. Yeah. We're at least three open spots at the top. But you also have to do a special. Maybe the suit this past to get on to the field.

5:12:54No most definitely I'm I feel like I'm a very talented guy and I can compete here and I can compete anywhere in the country. And I just feel like I just wanted to be valued somewhere and just really seen what I was doing and I really take it for granted and I mean like I said when I have them toss a coach down coach hard it was nothing taken for granted is just the path God had me on and I just really had to get clarity and see that. And once I did see that I hit the ground running from there and it's just been nothing but great vibes and great energy in the building. And even my teammates welcome me back with open arms and it's been even closer bond with them. So I mean everything happens for a reason and I felt like that was pretty good reason for me to do something like that and just pretty much have a comfortable circle back to me. There's a lot of things that you're improving that probably sound good right? Yeah. But then like you did here you see what that actually means and what that entails. Is that an icon for versus like when you're hearing versus actually experience what's actually necessary to be able to move up and pecking for you?

5:13:57Oh yeah most definitely on like we say in our room and coach hard prece every day in our room is like you got to be uncommon and most uncommon and that's the definition of a state can't have a bad day or a month of best acting in the world. Most of the players in the country so I mean just how you feel like hearing that sounds good sounds hard but even being in that and being in them shoes or being a player and actually going through that. It gets real absolutely it gets real. This days you got yourself there's days that you second guess yourself but I mean it's just all part of really just stay in tune with yourself and keep believing in everything you can do. And kind of get wraps with him with them on their side. Yeah so that was sick so not so much but I think like through all the back end of camp I was out of the fuss. In terms of building chemistry then how did that go seems like pretty serious. Exactly he was I was able to kind of grow a lot and we came to that like first two weeks and a little bit of the buy. I was able to play next to him so. Now should you just see so much more comfortable confidence from your press conference.

5:15:01I mean that true I mean how much more comfortable and confident are you right now? Yeah I mean that's something that close day he says you got a little confidence and that goes to the best D-line unit in the country every single day. So I think that alone build your confidence and that really obviously it's time to lock in and floor it on game day but when you go to this school I'm going to get several weeks on that two-star like this. I just kind of already your talent. Controllably trying to play discipline and make sure I don't put other players on my team in the definition but yeah I'm trying to maximize my potential. Josh how did you get better at reading defense? That would be coach for I could try as a genius I guess not only teaching real play but teaching you why the play is being called to a certain look and stuff like that. When you kind of go through a whole offseason with that and buy a week some camps like that it's just going to it's going to marinate you. How much relationship for him we can in your high school and not about him? A lot so I mean I kind of knew coach fry had like a like gift that at this type of thing because he was like really smart you kind of teach you a lot about offense line and stuff like that.

5:16:06I mean enough I didn't think it was going to be like this for my dad here. I mean so him having him having him as like a resource to come to from struggling to say add a not so good day practice I'm coming to him he can explain to me why this happened and stuff like that and I can go from him. What do you think is the difference in the long game? What do you think is the biggest difference from the long game for all of us in the last two years? I think one of the reasons that our offense is starting to lift us and I think we have some athletes on the offensive line. It's allowing us to kind of get out of the space and kind of you know kind of destroy those the second level in the show. How fun is that? I think guys get off the chair. Oh that's fun I mean that's something that I love to carry work because you can just give us a good knock down play. I'm going to say it again. I was going to say it again. I said quote unquote is that the heavy bag weather.

5:17:09You mentioned chips play calling and what is different about the long game? Is it not you're like standard offense like just now is kind of really simple. It's more you're going to have to kind of practice it a little bit. How challenging is that like the first few bumps of like learning all the different points? For me it took a minute but I think obviously the double coach fries stuff like that. You get out here and get next four games. It goes all the way there. You have to do anything in the game and then they end up failing down there and then you can get into the game. Absolutely. It kind of puts you like if you think you can kind of put yourself in the game. Just imagine you being up there and just kind of playing in the game and that was really good. Yes and you finish really well. What I'm going to do is I'm just going to get to know you. Going on the road absolutely. Going in somebody else's home and you know taking their food is probably the best thing you can have or go up where.

5:18:15You know what I'm going to do is just get the chance to say and move to get the adjusts and check the toys off and say. I'm practicing in like the minutes I've actually just so much to get the momentum and the practice and the numbers like what is the hardest part of the game. I would say probably it's always changing. I guess you know nothing really says the same so you can't really. You've got to always be kind of putting up with this kind of you've got to be alert. Just kind of what it is. Just you've got to be changes. Or just look formation. It's always like different. Josh mentioned the athleticism on the office line feels like Josh Fry really worked at that. The soft season get leaner. Better bang. What have you seen from him on the other side of this? I've seen exactly that. He looks a lot more athletic. He looks very fluid in the sets. He looks like an entirely different way. It's on that I'm starting to take away from him as I watch him film. Are you guys ever competing to see who can get farthest down the field on those big like second level blocks?

5:19:17I'm trying to do something. You can hit their faster MPH and stuff like that and practice stuff like that. Yes, definitely. Seth's out there a lot. Yes, he's. Seth's always nice. How much has been into this offensive line? You know I'm kind of this pretty experienced. How much has he been to you guys? He's been to a lot of them. He played in some really big games. I was kind of meld down there and playing in those really really big games. I guess he can say he knows. He knows his way around this whole thing. So he can teach us how to teach us different tips and tricks on how to let's say it's a lot. Obviously it's more interior but. You guys have a lot of experience. You guys have a lot of experience. You guys have a lot of experience. How much has that been? It's the first couple of years. I mean it matters a lot. I mean obviously that's one of the biggest things is that when you have something like me and I'm playing next to each other and then you know. It's a great fight. Like that's like kick him. You know they can play next to each other for a little bit.

5:20:18So when they go out there it's really like your player for your brother and I'm just glad that was good. Josh thank you very much. You're welcome. So we sent the blitz and I'm coming. I'm coming through the the the be gap and the run-in back came to block me and I shed it him and I shed it alignment and I just saw Jordan love really like throw the ball. So I just jumped up and the ball was just right there and then shout out leave out man. He got that block for me and then I knew it was touchdown but I just couldn't really believe it but. I just want to say man shout out to my team and I couldn't do this without you. For sure that's my brother so I'm gonna pick up his slack you know what I'm saying but this team is built off next man mentality so you know we built off adversity you know. Free BB man but you know we just got to be smart we making plays like that but that's just who he is. He just has that dog mentality man whistle whistle man we just go hard.

5:21:25So I'm just hoping that the defense that I'm going to be the best man like I said man defense our job is to limit points you know I'm saying so. The more we could limit points that that helps our offense and that helps the team win so shout out to the defense man it wasn't perfect but we really got the job done. Take away is just important to the defense wish we could have got some more but man we just going to continue to get better watch this film learn from and just continue to get better. What do you think of the best judgment? I mean the referee is going to have to do their job and stuff like that but I'm never really going to tell BB to slow down you know what I'm saying that's just who he is he goes for speed and I love that about him so man free BB free jam or two. What do you think of the number of words? I ain't easy that I easy what he did but yeah you know we're gonna get them. You're going to get off now for years just he's playing at the level right now. Wow.

5:22:25What's it about that makes him so hard as a defender to get over and down? What's it about his game how twice is so hard to get kind of over and down on golf? I'm golf. I feel like this is this is his composure you know it was raining out there but JG still knew what to do with the ball you know I'm saying he knows where to go how to operate his offense and who who guys he has to get the ball to in certain times I feel like JG is very smart too so he just really understand and I feel like you know defense and training camp you know I'm saying really got him to be fair for all this you know I'm saying but yeah. Is that made you better? Yeah yeah yeah every time because like I said JG smart so and training camp me and him was going back at it you know I play safety so I'm always reading JG's eyes and reading the concert that he's going with a quarterback and stuff so just going back and forth with training camp just really complimenting each other you know I'm saying iron sharp iron. I'm sure I'm sure that carries that type of composure and story to a game how does that trickle down to the rest of the confidence? You know I feel like we always put our trust in JG you know what I'm saying I'm I feel like JG like you said man he has great composure you know what I'm saying so even on defense things are going to happen but what we got to do is keep our composure and understand man we're built on adverse situations so sometimes when stuff go wrong maybe we got to make sure we get out to feel like in the mid points.

5:23:42I feel like it's just everything you know what I'm saying even just the comparison of I feel like one thing I always tell myself man I'm chasing the gold jacket you know I'm saying I always tell them boys like what do you want your legacy to be so every time every time I'm out there man I'm just showing on tape man this is who I am and this is who I'm going to be. Kurt Blockham a little late did you have Josh on the assignment there where you just come on the blitz and it was kind of a happy accident. I had a blitz I had a blitz I just go get the boy. So you just happen to run into and it worked out really well. Yeah yeah so I think he came to block me but I shedded him and I shut off and said I'm in and Jordan love just do it man and all glory to God man I just you know I'm thankful for it all. How quickly did you know you were able to house it? So now I saw Levi Blah I was like nobody's catching me at this point like it's just crazy like I couldn't even believe I'm running I'm running in the end zone I just really couldn't believe it but man it happened I was so real man I just want to say thank you for my team man all glory God.

5:24:43It's worth my views team. It wins in and so it wins in the first place and it was kind of a shame that hold on how important was this win for you guys. I feel like it's important because it's a statement out to the NFC you know what I'm saying I felt like we really controlling the NFC and you know it goes control the NFC and then I'm going to play out and then chasing that suit but we're going to take it.