Press Conference (Philip Bell) Elite Edition September 3

0:00For sure for sure as you go long your practice what have you learned from him and is it kind of what we expect to be just so for sure I feel like in the recruiting process he kind of let you know how he wants to coach all stuff on I feel like when you get here it's just it's a whole lot of level he's gonna keep coaching well he's gonna be hard on you he's gonna tell you what you're doing okay just gonna tell you what you're doing on and he's gonna push you to be your best yeah it's moving all over yes I was just like for you just getting to be here and see you know this team win an national championship in the first few weeks on campus it was crazy I feel like I knew that they were gonna do it from the beginning of the season I feel like they always had the potential and then they came out here that did it and the freshmen we had an opportunity to sit there and watch it so I feel like now we just got to do it again what did you learn from back just it's all hard work and it's just a bunch of

1:04guys and it's really a brotherhood and it's really just our family first their family and we just got a person here and we got to win the games and get back to the net outline the tart line was saying that car and Alan Brandon have really been leaders and the wrong self what is how have they both been leaders for you and the every young seevers they've been leaders just in multiple ways whether are call them we're in there in the film room together on the jugs I'm asking them about this route hawk or run it better I'm asking them how I run this route on this play just many different things I feel like those guys they're like big brothers and all that does help a valuable is that to have guys that are like they want to open also in college for a while so we're doing good ask them various things about college life I'll valuable it's real valuable for sure because they're they're fresh around pit guys so I feel like just being in a room with those guys and if you're able to thrive with those guys you know something's going good for you what are your impressions that you know what I'm saying I get specific with Tavian what have you kind of known about him and learned about having a relationship with Tavian

2:11he recruited me hard to come here so I feel like we always talked and he came here and he's been doing this thing they've all been doing their thing and Julian saying he's another Cali kiss so I had a little relationship with him too so good to see Julian link and Tavian all doing real good what is that next step for you Julian look like in terms of evolution what do you want to get better at spring? I just really just everything I feel like you can never be too perfect and I feel like you just got to keep doing your job so I say maybe just just showing up more and just doing my job to the tee going to get these corners so these debates how they say they kind of made you better in high school I had a five star corner DJ DJ on Lee he's at Alabama so I always had good work with corners so I feel like it's just a lot I'm going against a lot of good guys now instead of just being one on one that practice with DJ so it's real good for sure because it take more courage to play the slot the downside say to get pleased to take more courage to play the slot the downside what do you mean by that

3:13because there's more stuff but I think there's bigger injuries inside you have to have you've got to be aware of it but it doesn't take more courage to do that um I guess you can say that I feel like I just always play slot enough I feel like that's what I've been better at so I feel like um I feel like it's just what I have to do to be on the salt no matter who's in front of me how big he is how strong he is I feel like if I got in the side man I gotta do it he's the shhh happens and we've got guys who are able to play anything I've been like two weeks but what are your thoughts on the coach Patricia so far? man I really like coach Patricia a lot he's a he's a big uh you know it's what what can he do for you not what can you do for him and he's rola you know he's just trying to serve and help and I've learned so much football and this past two weeks more than I've you know learned in my whole lifetime so it's been it's been it's been great having him and he's a he's a good coach and he teaches and he's talking to me on the mic telling me what I what I see and stuff and it's just

4:15I feel like I'm getting a lot smarter and processing things a lot faster that's the difference for you coming out of you know last year with the injury and everything what it has it been like to take your feet under you and kind of give over the building I mean it feels good I was kind of just throwing right into it and fall keg and I thought I did a pretty well job you know just kind of getting thrown into the fire but you know now after coming back this year and um just things are things click a lot a lot easier and this and I feel like this defense is everyone's clicking and I'm just I'm really studying as much as I can I mean I just live up here all day and you know it's great having sunny and then just even like a guy like Cody last year um just the level of preparation he had every single day was unlike I've ever seen anyone he knew what everybody was doing every single play and so that's what I'm just trying to have trust in the coaches that I can I know what what's going on at all time so I can go in there and do my job. What feels different about this defense? You know the pressure running out that way maybe you'll pick up on mad with new on-swives or anything what do you what do you sense you feel a little bit different?

5:19um I think he's just he's big into playing the player's strengths like if I'm better at this he's gonna put me in this position and if I'm better at this he's gonna put me more in this position and just slow to that I mean we haven't really done much it's only been two weeks but guys are playing into their strengths and um just getting better I mean that's just and we're doing a lot of fundamentals stuff not too much scheme just you know working on tackling getting off blocks yeah absolutely I mean I would say right now he's the best linebacker coach in the country I mean he knows everything about it especially um you know with Patricia being in the NFL um he's he's definitely you know he knows it all and stuff so he's uh he's done good man I it was kind of hard for him I I think it was a little hard you know because he was kind of just thrown in like I was just thrown in the mix um he was trying to give me as many reps as I could

6:22get in fall camp and I'm really grateful for that I mean it was hard for me like you know when fall camp kind of ended um my reps really you know cut down but he did a good job of you know keeping me with the defense um and watching all the plays and stuff and just talking me through everything and you know we built a great relationship and I couldn't be our badful to have him as my coach how did you think you had last question we had thrown in the tire like that were there any moments we thought to yourself like I'm not ready for this is it just feel pretty good I felt pretty good I mean I uh like I said wrestling you kind of get forged in fire and so I think it's just a little bit bad I think the really the hard part for me was just um you know just consistently waking up every day and doing it the mental side of it especially I mean you just don't know a lot of stuff I mean you had never done it before but I wouldn't say the physical stuff was hard I mean I mean obviously it was hard but you know growing up wrestling and you know having older brother beat up on you a little bit it went too bad did you seem like you picked up more special teams

7:24responsibility especially if you're not playing up just like your snap counts of these were higher for you doing more by that one the season that they've had they've heard a little bit more so yeah 100% I mean I was kind of on um all four phases just trying to do my job and just show I'm accountable every week and just I mean you know guys will go down and stuff and stuff and up and you know being on kick off and kick return and get some power turn reps and eat and some pond reps um and as you know I was really grateful to have those you know just being even just being in the games and the playoff games you know seeing the stadium being on the field and having a responsibility um you made a lot that they they were willing to put me out there and they trusted me enough to do my job thank you thank you very much thank you thank you thank you thank you um because again I think especially as an offense um that's really been where my mind's been kind of been kind of noticing the trends as far as our offense can we speak on a lot of other things but in terms of like just the unity off the field I think has been remarkable um just the time spent away I think obviously they could have did all that same stuff here but it's

8:28different when you get to take a trip somewhere to you know you get to go to UCLA use a facility where it's not you know thousand degrees or not you know what I mean um so I think it's awesome to see them get together to do stuff like that one of the off season then we'll can't be in terms of just being on the same page with whoever is at who's ever next to you with left guard and establishing that continuity there yeah I mean I think um just just going just going into this off season I knew that just going to you know as far as who would be the left guard is was was was going to be up in the air so I think for me just starting out I took it something that was kind of important to me that whoever was everyone competing for that spot I wanted to create a bond with them um because I feel like a tackle guard bond is important in terms of communication understanding because again a left tackle is only as good as guard is and vice versa you know what I mean so I feel like I've done a good enough job so far of starting to develop that relationship with each potential guy so that way as we as spot as a spot is getting you know as people start to

9:34compete for that spot um again I feel like I should be able to I should be able to pop in with whoever and we should continue to keep the standard of the standard if that makes sense that's my mindset first there's a guy competing for a spot and I've never spent any time with him just one all one during the summer just taking reps before camp hey it was coming to facility it was to XYZ let's talk about this tape XYZ then they come in and then now there's no kind of flow so now I'm not really seeing how that how we're going to fit together but I want to fit with as many people at left guard as possible that way when the decision has been made there's no new start-up process I got to start over my process with this guy it's kind of already been flown that makes sense that's what tackle is a position that draws a lot of focus arguably it's more pressure than the position on the line uh senior opinion what is what is the problem mindset to succeed at that position I think that the mindset for me as always has been um that when I win my a one-on-one the ball goes

10:38down the field you know what I mean um so and I think that's what I'm most excited about just being a left tackle is that especially with the protections that are a little bit a longer plays where the left tackle tends to be a one-on-one or my my the plays I tend to love the most because kind of like halfway through the play we're locking them up and you just know that he can't go anywhere start a smile a little bit you're like oh dude balls gone you know what I mean like balls gone and it's going to be a touchdown it's going to be a huge gain just um so I think for me that's kind of the mindset you kind of have to have the left tackle spot as that as soon as I win like my rep we're going down the field so um that's just the mindset I have in terms of how well I have to prepare honestly I'll say that mindset kind of came from college again obviously I played with a lot of great guys in college you know I'm glad we have all those guys here you know what I mean

11:39to throw the ball to as well just because against one of those things like with CJ you just again a left tackle my mind so it's just let CJ just do his thing and that's my thing I want Kyle already be able to do his thing don't worry about whoever's over here just do your thing that's why you're here and just throw at the Marvin and you know it will be and will be good you know what I mean um so that's something excited about and I think all that starts because of what we do on the line so when I think just not just myself but the entire room takes pride in hey like when we do our job up front that's where everything else goes so let these guys we have with the ball in our hands do all that all that magic we just got to do our job just take it when you're one on one you know just playing that that spot means something special just because of the the history of that position and you know just of all the greats that have played left tackle I mean do you ever think about just the past and the you know the people the players before you who were in that spot and did great things yeah I mean again I feel like just from just as a young guy in a game I of course

12:47try to I like to watch the the greats the game I like to watch guys like a weight worth of course you know will the Anderson you know he played on the right side but again I think continuing to watch the greats that play the game just can take the dominate for those guys from me be able to talk to them again to be able to learn from their story and their journey and how they developed of course I understand I want to create a I want my game to be able to be like there's an a way to where it's talked about in a way of like that's a guy you need to watch just to watch with you know the fight that you played with the finish that you played with and the technique you played with because those guys played almost 20 years you know what I mean so and again I think that's something when you watch the guys though the legendary guys come before yeah you know they're strong they're tough guys but you know I don't know but when you're like 36 37 years old you probably not that's not as strong as you used to but that technique and just the skill set that's something

13:47that I admire you mentioned earlier about the guys going out to UCLA and kind of getting curious when you're working out here do you do anything outside or do you avoid it altogether right now I don't know I'm always outside I'm always outside I'm honestly I don't mind the heat I love the heat um and honestly for me it helps I'm off like 30 20 so I kind of warm up quickly so it's kind of nice for my warmup I don't have to be doing like 30 minute warmup you know you kind of just be outside long enough collect this and your joints are on go so um I actually I I like you know uh go going back to the players that have been in the league for a while Kevin Beachham is one of those guys that's been the league for a decade plus what have you been able to learn from him um I think again just learning how to be a pro in terms of in terms of certain things like for example I'm a guy that when I like to train by myself I'll just take a thousand reps of a set a thousand reps of a a reach block I'm a rep rep rep rep and tie figure I've done

14:49a hundred times and I wrote perfect and some of that beach is like talking about in terms of being a pro and I thought to me that's me being a pro is a young guy thick I've a lot of I reps my body so I'm gonna take a lot of reps and preparation but beach is a guy where it's like it's not about necessarily the quantity in terms of it's really through the quality but but even more so he's like you know you're off season you don't got to be doing something like this every single day but when you do it like from your first rep even your first rep is not like you're I'm taking this rep oh it wasn't good it's gonna be better on the second one like each rep even when you're by yourself is just kind of I guess a mindset like just give yourself 15 reps instead of doing 60 reps and I sounds like a huge difference but then you out of mind taking 60 reps from by myself and there's nobody does waiting around on me and I'm by myself I can I'll take my time and I'll do that but just being like I'm gonna do 15 perfect reps and I'm just gonna slow down and take all my time stuff like that that way your body I way you're not you're not you're not doing too much before

15:55camp you know many of the guys that left guard in the mix were here last year except forever how does that relationship develop around other overseas yeah I mean so honestly I like that that's my guy we like to compete we've been competing in the weight room since day one in terms of just like what we consider like athletic competitions so like even in the weight room I'm at the very end of the week when we're done lifting I'll talk to Evan I'll be out now you're staying and we'll just do some sort of competition whether it's grip or whether it's jump or where it's pull ups or something and I don't let them wave until I beat them in these two things like so if we do if we do a jump thing and like I always thought was the best kind of I had the most height when I jumped out of O-line I could dominate anybody and that but he beat me and that surprising size alright and then we're hopping on the bike and then we did this bike thing I beat him on a bike and we're now we're gonna pull up so I beat him on a personal kid now we can leave you know what I mean but like we just have that that in words is always just competing and and then again

16:57obviously you know he wasn't on the team with us last year but I think what he brings at the table with being a vet is that he's like a plug and play guy you know he knows he's been in those scenarios before he's played with guys like Penae when he was with Detroit so obviously he's being able to talk to him and how this is how it was when I was setting with Penae this is how it was I was saying to Siarax these are the different things that I can do that made some things like in your game how you set and I'll talk to him about what I like to do in certain scenarios and how his set can sort of match that because that makes sense so I think he adds a lot to the point the way of strength coaches like you guys got to go like yeah you got you guys should go you know we're not trying to we're not trying to break any rules around here but you know but it's just me and him just going and he loves it you know so and even us starting to do that we started to get other guys in the O line that tried to hop in on our competition for fun

18:02but only matters what be Evan it's just fine I'm just beating you you know so it's fun oh yeah oh yeah like walking here and seeing him all over the wall oh yeah seeing like he said seeing him just face on the walls and stuff like that it's really awesome does he say does he say that oh oh actually the tight ends have been super welcoming welcoming the G.H. Sean and

19:07Chris Cee they've been super welcoming they've done a lot of things and yes I guess the the pretty end process and I don't want to be welcoming and you guys did a few but I'm and Oh I'm touched on it very clearly. It's just a bunch of guys in the center of the block. It's nothing to much of a job. That first I thought it was. I want to see you just play football and everyone see about it. Just like you can't hold on to it.

20:08I'm sorry. Somebody from the open, you know, is waiting before you have a new mind. I'm going to ask you to come over there. They should be reaching out for me. What were your expectations? Very good. No, touch on it earlier. No, you're good. It was a hard process for me, my friend. I entered into the ladies' league. There was this guy, so I'm going to stop. And way now I'm really. And I knew I could play at the slam boards. Didn't know where he at. And as soon as I entered the court hall, he's going to venture the coaching all over. And I'm going to say this. I can't even mention how aggressive he was. What did you think then? You put on that. Absolutely. You can stand out the face. No, I believe on the selfless player. I'll be anything that takes good play. I can keep pushing down there. A.R. I can play hard.

21:08I can give my nose there. This is a slow football game. When the conversation, I don't know how quickly it goes. I'm not going to touch you on the floor, but here's what you're rolling. But what happened? Is that part of the initial decision? Sorry. What is the purpose of that? What is the interest that it used? How is the Wairo industry? Is that part of the initial conversation? Is that later on? Yes or no? Nothing is given. Like I worked at the mid-80s. I'm not really concerned with that. I'm bringing somebody that could potentially fill in at all. And you can watch out for this. It's a nice space for my role as far as I'm here. And I hope I can look at that. I think, well, when you said you feel like you could play at this level, how long have we talked about this? And you think that coming out of high school, you just had to buy your time really quick last year? You know what? I'm ready for a job. No, I know since high school that I had this thing made,

22:09the recruiting process really difficult for me. We had time with COVID and stuff like that. And I was blessed with a lot of work from Ohio. And I just continue to work there. And I'm still sorry. I just went higher for that team. And then, all you said, it was a million, and then you said you had to portal, but try to make that next level where I thought I could have done it. Look, I'm sure a lot of guys went through that. I think that's what happened in the world. It was looking back against what was going to go through that. And I think it's funny to you, or how do we become more familiar? You got to where you want to get your ear. It's a different path. Yeah, no, it was really exciting and very stressful process. But like you said, this is the first time I've ever seen a lot of people who are very stressful process. But like you said, this is the path I got here. And I don't know if you know you got here.

23:11It's really what you should be here and out there. How would you say you made the most right-wing spirit of the spring set? I don't know. You went there and you better come up with that. How much better before you are you now coming here? What areas do you need the most? Yeah, so my freshman year, I was red-shared. I really get a good piece of time at that time. And I was on scout team. And that's where I was just every day I put on the work and treat that like my game. So that's where I got acclimated to the college level. One day my sophomore year and this past junior year, I went to your sophomore year. It was really where I made my impact on the field. All of my coaches, you believe in me there. And I love all those coaches down there. I love all those people, great programs. And it's quite a lot of faith in me. Back in that news, I tried to make plays. Was there a little girl besides Ohio State? Did you know that?

24:11Oh, there's a head in fear. There's a couple of schools in the Assisi and Kentucky High Schools. But like I said, Ohio State really caught my eye and I'm a freshman. Yeah, I'm a freshman. And I can be a student. You knew to do this anywhere else besides Ohio State? I did not. Well, it was real good about you. I'm just getting to the field and getting to the field. And you feel like you're the pathway of certain people. Oh, yeah, absolutely. Nothing's given to me. I got to work for every minute of playing time. But that's my open goal. What's your strong spirit? What's your world? Yeah. Hello, Ralph. Yeah, I love Blockins. I feel like that's one thing that I can separate myself. Really? From others. And I love Blockins and some of them. I'm a blocker here in the past.

25:12And I can see this. How do you put it in some form? Awesome. Yeah, first week, I mean, actually, it's a little bit. I think I was like a bit of a settlement and I got to know a lot of the guys. I think we were all in the pool. How about the pool? No, 40 more. That was nice. Good? No, that's one thing. Oh, yeah, they're easy. I just had one. I had a pretty solid one. You're feeling good, though. Yeah, I'm feeling good, though. I feel good. Oh, yeah. I know, Blockins and other people. I think they have a little bit of password. So, you know, they're all safe and good things about each other. And it's really, it's really cool. This is quite cool. But what do you think of the approach? Do you see the similarities in the way that they show? Oh, absolutely. It's the kind of approach that they like. They give the trade tools. That's what they're planning. They have a block that has something. You don't know how this goes to the end. No, they're both young guys.

26:13And there's a super person to go. They're not like coaches being at the tree. They're like, they make a tree meal. I work with a bunch of people. I just have that. That's a maybe, maybe, like I got through. I get to know them. And then they think that how do we push this? Yeah. There's just all of these things. Where is there anything to do with this thing? No, I'd say it's super, super similar. Especially Blocked and Wise. Like, I'll try and get the same job done. The resources might be a little bit different. But I think it's been some of the way you think about the people with name, watching you play here. Just how hard I go. And just like our college meetings, they're just blocks. They're just playing. And that's the goal. And I think it's my understanding of what's going to happen. And that's what I'm talking about. I think that's the thing. It's just awesome culture. Culture is super simple.

27:15Yeah. He's answered it out. It was a little rough in the game. Just not knowing a bunch of people here. But I want to start welcoming them. And now I try to go to the same. I feel like you and me and you are all complementing. Yeah. And everyone's different. We've got still some sort of people. And all of them look at us. And I'm excited about it. I think it's a great opportunity to see this. How much does it get to play against this? How much does it get to play against this? How much does it get to play against this? Oh, it's just one of the best defenses in the transfer. I think that'll be awesome for me. It's just how I can use the system. I'm going to do some of the best to do this around the red light that I've owned. So you know, it's awesome. I'm always thinking, do you like this kind of thing? I think this is always a quite different. I'm very stupid. I just feel like this is one of the things that you do.

28:15Yeah. What is it like for you? No, I think Athens is an awesome place. No, I don't. I mean, again, they are like footballs in the industry. So I'm halfway across the level of Boston. But I love that. I think it's a good place to start. And I lost that. That's it. I mean, it's close by. I'm sure I'll visit here in the near future. But, yeah, I just wanted to add football gear to Chinese football. Can you tell? Yeah, I've got a little bit of this. I see that it's getting used to my... It's a lot of things. It's a kind of understood way to see it here. It's that you risk the purchase and how to maintain it. You probably think you're going to have to be in the future. I don't know if you're going to have to be in the future. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I hope you're in the future. What are you thinking of? All those guys want to buy some bread for the place.

29:16They're really good people and really good coaches. And we're just going to stand in the mall. All the places that you're going to be in. And some people that are left in the middle of the night. Yeah. You're going to be in the middle of the night. Yeah. I'm still up for an interview, but I just like, you know... The culture and the offering, stuff like that. Yeah. Well, I haven't gotten to play any longer. So I'm still up for a interview. just like the culture and the author and stuff like that when the same thing was going to take you all around. I like the first impressions of Bullwhip. Awesome, awesome guy, he's super friendly. He came out and reached out to us when we're throwing out skins to make sure we're good.

30:16He's always wanting to get the best of us and making sure that we're on top of our stuff. He's really good at making sure that we're on top of our stuff. He's really good at making sure that we're on top of the side. Yeah, so I was a late transfer portal. He wrote a lot of stuff in my family just that when I was auctioned. I was pretty stressful when I entered the portal. There's a lot of cultures that I reached out to. I'm honestly just going to get on the coach and I'm just so excited to be back on the coach. I'm just really impressed with him and I'm doing this with him. You know, that is best. The city was so hot and I was like, this is very trashy. Yes, this is very comfortable. I was honestly just an opportunity while Ohio was my only home for high school.

31:17So it stood up a lot of stuff. And I was super grateful to have him. We're behind the back of the way. But yeah, that's why I came out here and yeah, how was it? I was in the city and I was seeing a lot of people. Tradition, tradition, and so on. For the attention, the day and so that we want to go. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm still getting used to it. Yeah, really the piece of things and things of what you think of the stuff that Mr. Van is just saying. I'm trying to get the opportunity of the African women to go on the field. I was surprised that he was coming back. You know, zero weapons. You know what I'm saying? People saw me with the police and everything.

32:18There's a few other veterans. I mean, yeah, I love the Zintaro's feature. There's some good health in Zintaro. I think he's a lot of knowledge. He's also a ministry guide. I'm just going to keep that away from you. Did you get a lot of doctor? Oh yeah. No, I've been on the other side of the work continued to deliver. Yeah. So, just go. Thank you. Thank you. Oh yeah. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Alas, Alas. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I'm Alas. Oh, look. Oh, there's Alas. Oh, look. I'm Alas. Thank you. Oh, look. Thank you. Never mind, Alas. Thank you. Thank you. Alas, thank you.

33:18Thank you. Thank you. You're welcome. I learned aspects like learning to program and learning how we work here. I kind of feel like a freshman. So I kind of have to get on task and figure out how things work here. And then once I earn the respect of my teammates, then I can continue on the leadership role. But the right side is blocked. I mean, it kind of feels like I need to get a left side. So I can tell you guys, when you had conversations on it, and what are your thoughts? I can talk about how I can point you to the moment that you're on the right side. I'm not really sure about that, because I can't hear just an offensive lineman. I didn't really come for a specific position. There's a lot of talent in the room, and I'm just going to try to fit in the best way I can. So you could see I get an after-even in a bit of a card set. I'm not sure. That's up for the coaches to decide. But I am here just to help the success of this program, and whatever the coach has seen. Have you had a few conversations with Howard again and all

34:18as you guys have come and make your own decisions? I really like Will. Will's a great guy, and he's had a coming of experience, and he'll be really excited playing with him. What's better being a treater than a treater than a certain thing? Neither. I hated the recruiting process. Kind of in both sense, the transfer portal period is so short, I was home from the Rose Bowl on Wednesday, I think, and I was up here Thursday. And then I came up here on Saturday, so as an enrollees. So that was really quick. But yeah, I've never really been a fan of all the hype and the who-run of the recruiting process. Hey, Seth, I think a lot of people in this day now, the portal. How do you go from being a true Alabama player to coming to a higher state and going, I'm a fuck-eye now? And not just you, but a lot of other players who are transferring in the portal. I think I had the advantage of being there for four years.

35:19I love Alabama. I have two degrees from Alabama. That's always going to be my alma mater. And I so appreciative for everything that I've done there and everything that's been given to me there. But just as a, we're playing the sport to be professionals. And I've just thought for my benefit, that change would be good. But I am very thankful for everything I've received from Alabama, their fans. I love them. But it's just going to be a fun new adventure. Are you looking forward to playing in the shoe? Yeah. I think one of the craziest things is playing in all those SSC stadiums and growing up in the SEC, I really never, I was never really a huge big 10 football watcher. So kind of getting to experience this type of culture and see the love for the game up here. It's been fun. It's been fun. It's been colder. It's been colder. I did grow up in the South. So some of the really cold weather I've never been used to. But I get hot easily. So I don't love the heat.

36:19How do you do that after you're in the middle of the day? What was that stuff? What's your moment, what's your next, and then get to see it? As you work through that. You know, when you go through something like that, you kind of have to sit down and look at yourself and be like, OK, who am I as a person? What am I? And I kind of just sat down and thought about, where can I go from here? I can't control what happened in the past. I can't control what happened in that game. I can't control the public reaction to that. But I'm here now. I'm in a great place to continue my development and play for an incredible program, play for incredible coaches. So really, I'm very positive. I have no negative feelings about what happened. It is what it is type of thing. So it's exciting and important. I've started, I forget how many games I've started.

37:21I've started over 20th Center. But I'm open to doing whatever it takes to help this program when football games. Do you believe the given fact that I'm really talking about in the field of my school? I played tack on high school. That's kind of like every single offense alignment in college plays tack with their high school program. But practice brought a little bit throughout my career at Alabama. But really, it's just an interior offense that the lines come out the same. Did you, after that Michigan game, did you check your social media off? I mean, you pay a visit to the world with going on out there? No, not really. It doesn't really affect you. That's kind of the thing about social media. I've heard that if somebody patch your back, you can't listen to them. Somebody knocking you down, you can't listen to them. Because at the end of the day, nobody out there really knows exactly what goes into it unless they've been in the position. Maybe all this stuff, just over time, from the Halo to them, just walk up and you may even already enhance this. What do you think you guys playing at Alabama

38:24in stealing you? It's maybe a little different from the average guy. What do y'all bring to this program in that regard? I think playing four years with Coach Sabin is tremendous for your personal development. Having him talk to you each and every single day about what it takes to be a man, what it takes to be successful. I think it's a lot of people in the country who would draw this up for fashion would pay a lot of money to have that experience with Coach Sabin, his leadership. It's tough hard to know this football from what I've gathered so far. And it's been very fun to just talk to the guys and hear their experiences and kind of talk to them about my experiences and just kind of look to see how it's different, how the goods are in the bad. So, I don't believe so, I'm not sure.

39:38I mean, good football teams are good football teams. They're both on top of this. They have the size, they have the talent. So, kind of when you get to those games, you don't really tell them it's all good football teams kind of resemble each other in some sorts of ways. I think you have the experience of what you've done and you know kind of what works and what coaching styles you're more of that too. So, when you talk to the coaches, it's really about how can you make me better? Not necessarily how can you develop me into the player that I need to be from where I was. I was like 6'3", 260 pounds coming out of high school. So, that was really more about what can the weight staff do, what can the nutrition staff do to put the weight on me. But now it's kind of just about developing as a football player.

40:39So, you just like to go in all the time, you know you don't have a good structure and both make the physical difference in the same kind of stuff. What are the thoughts you were going to see with that? I think he's a very impressive guy. He's very intelligent. He's smart. He's played in a lot of games. He's a big 12 champion. He's won championship games. So, kind of going and playing with a quarterback that knows how to win games was a super big thing to make. That's my main goal as to win football games in my 10 years. What is it? What have you noticed in the focus around here in the first hour, when you've been here, and the players can't point up? All these guys coming back for another shot. You know, what's just good at you about the atmosphere I guess, about finishing the jobs that we make? I think it's impressive. I think it's a testament to the culture here. In my two short weeks, I can tell how much guys love about, I love this program and care about this program and care about their legacy. And, you know, you had so many guys that could have been drafted this year that came back. And, you know, I don't want to speak for them,

41:40but it sounds like it's because they think they have unfinished business and they want to win all the games and they want to leave the legacy here. Did you find out how to do it? It didn't factor into my decision at all. Just one to come. Because really, whatever happens now, it doesn't matter if you don't make it to the NFL. And I wanted to go to a place that could put me there. What's your reaction? I was excited. I've been watching Caleb for a year now at Alabama. And he was very, very impressive. He walked in and he acted like a third-year starter. You know, he was a veteran. And it's very rare from a freshman. So he's one of the most impressive freshmen I've ever seen through Alabama. I didn't really get to watch a lot of him playing football. He was over on the other field, just with the quarterbacks.

42:41But from what I've heard, from the other quarterbacks at Alabama, I'm really good friends with, is that he's a great guy. He's very talented. So we're excited to have him. And when he said, I don't know what's up on the, I'm just kind of thinking about it. And he made me think, he was the only people in the House of all. How many of the times I am pretty sure I'm the first person to do it. Yeah, I came to college before, and I always think so. It was literally not a topic. But it's a part of the world we live in today. And you know, it's something to think about for some people. If that's what they're interested in. I'm really just excited to be here in Columbus, and have the opportunities that football presents. I think it brings a ton of experience. He's a great coach. He's had a proven track record of being a good coach. In our time at Alabama, he put up a lot of points. So it'll be fun to watch what he does with this. What do you, what do you like to play for?

43:42I'm going to say, how would you describe what he's like in that role? I think the most important thing is a player for Coach O'Brien, his pro background. He expects you to handle yourself like a pro. He expects you to prepare like a pro. And anything short of that, he's not a big fan of, which is understandable. Could you notice the insight to Gabe, he'll talk about the game. I mean, you know, the little bit made you around him. That he's been in the NFL. I mean, you know, he has that show up. I mean, honestly, not necessarily how it would expect you to be. I think it's better. He knows who the guys are. And he's going to get the ball in their hands, you know, whatever it takes. The first point for me is what kind of experience? They had a kid that couldn't snap the football. I was my first time walking out there. Okay, mind as well, try this guy at center. And the coach is most of an incredible if they could tell that I was going to develop into a college center. So I still keep in touch with my nine year old football coach

44:44and he kind of takes credit for putting me in that position in his foresight. So that's kind of funny. But what do you think that will go over that point? Yeah, it was. It was. Kind of just being the guy up in front, making the calls. I like doing that. I like the intellectual part of the game. I'm a student of the game. So it's a lot of fun learning and trying to, you know, everybody on the same page is what I like about it. I'm so proud of all the young students who are doing college, especially in traditional murdering, making the calls. It's what it takes that way where you're at. How do you see it, as well? Now it's kind of just based on instinct. You know, I don't necessarily know the whole picture, but if I look in this sandbox over here, I kind of know what's everywhere else. So once you start learning the game, it kind of becomes more instinctual. Hey, I'm not trying to. I'm just thinking thorny right now. I'm thinking what's in the game here, like Patrick and the Holmes. You know, there's some load snaps in that game and he was able to handle them.

45:45You're still on a standstill. The center somehow filled through a little bit of a rut in the shotgun snap and the physical snap. The other just kind of have to get out of your standstill. Yeah, not really. I mean, kind of just part of playing the position. You know, if you're a point guard in basketball and you're not hitting your free throws, you're not doing what the team needs to do to win. The Creed Humphrey is one of the best centers in the game, I can't, I can't talk about what was going on, but I mean, it didn't really impact the game. But you got a lot going on in front of it, but something that you're doing before a snap is done. I mean, I mean, concentrate on that snap before anything else. I mean, the snaps just part of your instinct. It's just getting the ball back there. You kind of don't really think about it. You kind of throw the ball back there. Without how many reps that you bank, you've got thousands of thousands of thousands of reps. Usually it's just going to go back there straight. That's at Alabama right here interacting. Maybe it's just a few years. I mean, take your official position here. What about Justin Fry and Ryan Bay? Just talk out that maybe I need to be here

46:46to help them try to win that. Just their plan and their excitement for winning that Coach Day has been incredible to talk to you. I wasn't recruited by Ohio State out of high school that much. So getting up here and seeing everything for the first time was a very telling experience and Coach Fry sat me down and had a good plan for me. And that was exciting to hear as a football player. I know you were carrying the ball in your mind for how long you know me and you could possibly have all the things you need. I talked to him a little bit. I just asked him about what he knew about Coach Day and Coach Fry and he had nothing to positive things to say. Did you talk to Ohio State every little fellow in Atlanta? I mean, you're very interested in Ohio State more than maybe anyone else. Yeah, it was. And that was kind of attributed to my first... it being my first visit. Yeah. They were very proactive about, you know, as soon as I entered the portal, they were one of the first people to call me. And they were very proactive to getting me here

47:48and getting me here first. And then just knew the process of how important that was to do our short time insurance. I know, I introduced you once here. I told you as well. You know him and what you're expecting to do here. He was a eighth grader, I believe, my senior year. Did he show itself to them? Yeah, he looked the same size he was now. I felt like as a senior in high school, because he's always been a huge guy. So I'm excited to see how he develops and how he brings the culture of Beaufort here. I have a plan for you. What was the name of your nine-year-old team? What was your team here, you are? It's more of a composition. You know what I'm saying? Not any hits of the DB. I'm 230 going against someone who's 205. You know what I'm saying? I'm expecting to win. So I love the composition. I'm expecting to win. Yeah, Cody said you came in. He said, well, he's already bigger than us. You see where you play. Will and Sam, how was the position? I've been working on both, yes. Is there any, like, what's the difference between the two in terms of,

48:49what are the things that you're saying? Um, in the obviously the standard, more outside of the box, outside of my back, or overhang, you can be walked up on the edge on the tight end, Will's more inside the box. I think the biggest difference from Sam and Will, Sam, you just got to be more outside sometimes during the slot with two. You know, but I think it's similar concept, because you can do the same thing in the boundary. It's almost more like the San Francisco feeling of Will's at the boundary. So I think it's pretty similar, honestly. The only difference is that Sam, last year, I never really was an interior run fitter, like in the A gap, you know, going A to B or whatever that, whatever that might be. So that's a little different. But I mean, I think I got some of that experience at safety, just from a few yards back. So like I said, the only difference really is now, just suggesting the less time. Yeah, yeah, Coach, how's it, uh, you coming from where you, you're coming from, you have a better perspective of what's going on. Chris, you played safe. Yeah, yeah, I, I feel like I have a great understanding of the defense. Um, I think that safety, I kind of already knew what the linebacks are doing.

49:49So now what I'm really starting to learn is like exactly like every little detail what the D lines doing. That's not really what I didn't know every little aspect of it. I think I'm starting to learn that now because obviously the lineback you've got to be, uh, knowing that more. So I, I think when it's all said, I think I have a really, really, really good understanding of the defense and knowing exactly what everyone's doing. Do you feel like you're, uh, warm enough, they're more in the mix of the defense too, and that lineback here sounds exciting because you can drop in one minute, pass-rested, that you or me, um, Yeah, I actually said that I think you can say it like being a linebacker in the play, you're almost in every play. Yeah. Obviously the play can run away from you, but you know, it's safety sometimes you're just back there, playing every guest you take two, two back battles, and it's a tackle. So I think yeah, a linebacker, you're in the play more, more chance, more opportunities to make tackles. Can you feel comfortable there? I mean, what does that, you know, obviously you're then, I'll stay in that linebacker. Yeah, I feel super comfortable with it. Like I said, I think it's just going to be adjustment. You know, obviously it's different playing from a five than it was from playing from like 10 last year. So I think it's an adjustment, but I'm super comfortable with it. So I mean, you top here, dad,

50:49have you any advice on the new position? Oh, yeah, we watch, we watch the table all the time, uh, watch practice, you know, he was a high level linebacker, and I'm just getting started with this, uh, he gets a little, little footwork and stuff like that, but it's good. I get good teaching him, you know, obviously coach Lord Knight is great player, great teacher for him, coach Noes, you know, he's a super smart football mind, so I'm getting great teaching all around. The linebacker, everything happens quicker for you. How much did the experience playing some of that sandwich got by your health? Um, I think it helped a little bit, let's do it in terms of physicality, like being in the box down on the line, but I do think the, the run fit as a will and a Sam can be a little different, like in terms of like I said, like being an interior fitter, like you're a 30-backer, you're an A, you get pools, now you gotta go spill it, so things like that, but I think I'm adjusting well, I think I'm picking up on stuff pretty fast, you know, there's still gonna be a lot of stuff for work on that.

51:49Yeah, like do I do? Do you feel more pressure talking to the media with your brother sitting right there? Not at all. What do you think has been the biggest change from linebacker safety climate? Um, I think the biggest change will probably be that, that's 10 to 5, because it's a bigger adjustment, because everything's happening faster, and you gotta react faster, and like I said, the waist and movements, I think footwork is huge, I think when you see the great linebackers, seems to play, happens are going, they're not taking any waist steps, they're not fall stepping, things like that, so I think waist and movement and being able to see what's happening, react fast. It's been the biggest benefit of being on the same team with your brother? Um, I mean, you know you got someone out there that's, it's more than a team, you know, we call each other brothers, but you know, bloods, bloods a little thicker, so that's always pretty cool. It's always, it's never 101. Yeah, but when he tells you something, he doesn't observe that, you know, it's coming from him. Yeah, I think when you're blood like that,

52:49I think he's not scared to tell me the truth, you know what I'm saying? You know, obviously guys here, we have tough love, but I think it's always going to be a little different when it's your brother, because he's going to keep it 100% blunt, exactly what you need to hear, and I want you to want to hear. What's your advice on playing Dickel? Oh, for him? Yeah. Um, I mean, he just so I've let a hit guy, he's just keep trusting his instincts. Uh, I think he's going to be great. Uh, I think what's huge for him is, like I said, the athletic ability, speed, you know, he blitzed off the edge, he's, he's, he's blitzed super fast, um, and he's just great in coverage too, so I think something really good, I think we're going to do a lot of different things, kind of like you see a hand-cut, obviously a little different body than a hand-cut, but I think he's going to be really good for some of the other, he's, he's, he's, he's just telling. Thank you. Great energy guy. How would you describe that? Yeah, so with Coach Locklin, I mean, I've only been around him for a day, so I don't really know, but, uh, as you can see where he's coaching, how he is as a person,

53:49he's very high energy, he's very intense, you know, and, um, I think he's very hands-on, so I think it'll be awesome to be working with Coach Locklin. What's your opinion of soft fats, trickles? What's your opinion of soft fats, cookies? Uh, I'm not sure that's the first meeting with you guys, uh, No, not yet. I want to, do you, uh, do you support a city that you've met, if you're new from then? I'm in the direction we have, I want to use it as a team. A lot, so we're from the same city, uh, we're from the same place, um, at Florida State, you know, he worked on that staff with Coach Johnson, and they offered me out of high school, so the relationship was already there then, and we just continued to build on from then. What is it, what did the media do to be offered? Uh, it meant a lot, you know, just the things that we talked about, since I was young, growing high school, you know, um, just didn't have that opportunity to go, uh, play there. So, it's awesome. What's the rest of the spirit look like for you? What do you want to see yourself get there? Yeah, just to continue to improve all around, you know, continue to learn the offense and get involved

54:50in everywhere that I can on the field and just be able to improve my game all around. I know we were only in here for Saturday, you know, and seeing you guys practice a lot, but it's like you come out of the backfield, if you catch a touchdown pass from Will, uh, are you just pushing to continue to get better out of the backfield, and where do you feel like you are, as far as learning the offense, and being a fast-kept road to backfield? Yeah, definitely. That's my goal to just continue to improve everywhere, but I think just overall, it's just helping the team, any way that the team needs to be helping, just being a team player. That's, that's my deal, just trying to come in and, you know, help the team, whatever the team needs. Bishop, how did you guys find out? You talked to you guys about the game. Um, actually, I honestly don't remember how I found out, um, but I just remember like the process on what was, where were we going to do moving forward? Ryan Dees talked a lot about the leadership Travian's brought to the running backroom to spring. What, how would you see that from him? Yeah, definitely. Um, Travian is, like I said, has improved. Um, he's been a leader to the whole room, you know,

55:51by his actions, and vocally as well, just, you know, he's been continuing to improve all around and inspired the young guys in the room. And I think he's done very good at that. Coach, they were saying that, you know, T.C. Kathy's a guy that can contribute to you guys as well. What have you seen from him as a walk-on to be able to contribute to your room? Yeah, definitely. T.C. works very hard. Uh, he knows the offense. He's always in the playbook, always in the meetings, writing things down. Uh, very head down guy. You know, he doesn't really talk that much, but he's, he's very good. So I agree. Oh, it's like, something in the questions. How's that? Uh, how was, uh, how was Coach Day like his running back school? It's crazy. You say that because he just told us he's like, well, guys, this probably my last week, which I'll end up out. So, but, um, Coach Day has been awesome. You know, he's taught us a lot of different things, um, as far as scheme and different positions that he's coached overall. And, you know, taught us a lot of different things that we learned, um, overall, so it's been awesome. I know it's probably unsettling not to have a position coach for two weeks,

56:51but what does it offer? Any of them like the info in that hands-off? Yeah, definitely admit the lot, you know, to have Coach Day in those meetings, teaching us everything that he's put in and implementing it into our game and showing us how he specifically wants it. It was really good to have him there. You just tell about it in light and yellow for the respect of our quarterback. Right. What do you remember taking away from that? Yes, just really like not only looking at it from a running back perspective, but also as a quarterback as well, looking at certain reads, certain blizzes from other players, and just looking at it all around from the field. Good night, you're second to go. What's the list in your round? Who did you get the time? Who did the fastest in that round? Yeah, I actually don't really remember, but thank you. I'm pretty sure you are. You are. You're human at face of the game. Yeah, definitely really comfortable. Like I said, I've been improving to start of this year, you know, coming here, just improving my game all around. What's the last question? The last question was pretty quiet today. Is that disconcerting? Are you waiting for like, something?

57:52I'm waiting. I mean, he's giving me a lot of feedback today on practice, you know, different plays, what he thinks, you know, what he's happy about. But I think the energy is going to come soon, so I'm excited. Did you get any props for your blitz pick up on that fast? Did you remind anyone what's freaking out about it? Oh, yeah. I did. I did. How, where are you without part of your game? When blitz pick up? When blitz pick up, block it. I feel like I know it's pretty important. Yeah, pretty solid. I think like I said, just improving my game all around, that's the goal. Continue to build every day and not be the same player that you wear yesterday. So that's really my goal, but I think I've been pretty solid at it for sure. All right, Quencha, thank you. All right, thank you guys. Thank you, Quencha. Quencha, thank you. No doubt about it. He's still a bit of a leader. Him and JT are real close, really, really close. But that front four guys here been here, Ty and Ty Lee, they're really close.

58:55And they're pushing the guys. And that's what you want to see. So I would say those four guys are our leaders in our room, and they're pushing them really, really well. Yeah, I see that. You got a Jason Thorne that makes you say that. I mean, he's 6'5, you know, 295 pounds. He's an ideal three-tectic in our system, right? And just some matter, he'll have to have him confidence and play it. And sometimes you get his bigger than you think it is, and he kind of shut your back. And now in the spring, we're challenging. And I'm just telling you, he's every day is a good day for Jason Moore. And that's what we want to see. K-Mac to say the thing. There's a lot of guys doing well that we really like what's going on right now. But if a guy that's making a jump right now, we'll see Jason Moore. The earlier we used to talk about the first two years or on us in the third year is on that. Except there's a, with those ends though, it's Canyot and Caden who got two third year guys who no fault of their own. If you already said it, they're kind of flops. How do you approach that as a coach with guys who, when they were looking at this, probably thought like, third year, a big opportunity was going to be here. And now it might not be quite the same shape thing. Again, I think it's going by TIC early on, right?

59:55And then KJ came back. And then it's got to go and report it. They wanted to because those guys came back, right? But they all want to be part of something special. You know, and I think that's what separate us. We are. And the fact that KJ and Caden care and everyone, they're like what they want to do. They just want to play ball and come back and be the best player possibly. And step to the rows. And their row this year is different. It could be a very long season. So we're going to need those guys. And I think they're embraced at when they came back. So that's a good thing about it. What do you mean by a plan A might not have also been for both games back to still be here in four years? So you're probably grateful that they are, but same time, are you looking at this, like what else is left on the tables for them? Where are you looking? Well, I think the biggest thing they're doing at Chase and greatness right now. And I mean, being the best player, it can be in a college football. I think that's what they want. When a national champ is you. You know, to team up north. Those are all great goals for those guys at Chase. And I think that's one of the reasons they came back. You know what I mean? You go through your player, go in and out of the house. Mike, think you're ready. Well, you got four years on your belt. You got your two box ready to go. You got a chance to elevate your game when you're walking in that next level. And I think that's where those guys looked at. How can I get better coach? And every day we're working on the small pieces to make them elite players. And I think that's what we're enjoying right now.

1:00:55And you can see the difference in the guys. And that's the positive. So I think that's the reason why I'm here. I think that's the reason why I'm here. What is the challenge? What is the challenge? Can you all get a chance to be a good guy? How can I get better coach? And every day we're working on the small pieces to make them elite players. And I think that's what we're enjoying right now. And you can see the difference in the guys. And that's the positive what's happening right now. What is your challenge? What is your challenge? What is your challenge? What is your challenge? Can you all get a chance to be a good guy? This freeing or really this thing? Can you prove where we are? Just being consistent. So about being consistent. You know, he's tough. He has all the skillsets. He can bend. He can run. He can tackle. He's physical. He has all that. Now can you be consistent in doing what you're supposed to do? And so far, he's done a good job at that. And you can see him coming out of his shell a little bit, kind of trying to be a leader. And I like how he's going on. It's always getting carried. I mean, those guys are right where they need to be. And I'm just happy that we got to move on days to practice to get ready. What's the next step? I told you. But the next step, you know, obviously, it's the play to best game. You can play every game. That's the key to going into it, right? You're trying to be a elite player. You know, you're trying to be a good player. You're trying to be a good player. That's the key to going into it, right? You know, you're trying to be a elite player. You know what I mean? Tallah's got to give it, but to be a lead, you know, you got to choose that. And every day he day out, we talked about that.

1:01:57You got to choose greatness. Because there's no fault on the way from this. And I mean, so just a little things. Just fixing all the little things. Larry, you've been asked about Edger and his recruitment. Now he's on the field. What have you seen from him through a few practices that make you think that, you know, not to put the expectations on him, but he's almost asking me next time. Yeah, I hope so. You have a good time to go. It's a growth process. I mean, those young guys come in. It's like he should be in the classroom and get ready to go to the problem now. You know what I mean? He's here. And so he's got to go through a growing stage, you know what I mean? How to play hard. Playing hard in high school and playing hard in college. Two different levels. I mean, it's this full speed of Ed. I mean, so he's got to learn how to do that. He's got the skill set. I mean, he's got the physical skill. And now he's just learned a game that played a high level as fast as he can. Do you make sure to shepherd him to JT and Dragon? Hey, make sure to pay attention to these things. Well, we don't have to shuffle very close. They are already standing next to him talking to him. That's a good thing, but I grew up. They coached a young guy really well. Really well. Where? With the tightly-canned tie being able to play Irish hot and close. Who that is your third guy? Because he could be in the league.

1:02:57Well, you hope that K-Mac can give us something. You know, come out. I think he's having a good camp. And, you know, Jason Moore, we got hero Knows done really well. And he got Taiwan. And in their ending, we got a battle between who's going to be that next peace guy. And of course, you know, little Smith or it could be a little freshman. So we don't know yet. But I like the four-by-yar right now that's just a little moving forward. I think it gives him some options. Where's the hero in K-Mac taking the biggest step? He's me. Where have hero in K-Mac taking the biggest step? Well, just, you know, playing a game, more knowledge of the game, how to play a great football IQ and just continue to work on our techniques. And that's never going to stop. But I think that's what's happening right now. Is there something K-Mac can give you with the one-side sort of being that, you know, space-heater, maybe the explosive first step that, you know, there that spot? Yeah, yeah. He's a nose guard and he's powerful. We like to see him continue to bring his weight down. But he's a big man. He's very strong and he can handle it. The center really well. And he gives it to the idea of a nose guard. That's what we're looking for. I suppose a guy, a big guy in the middle, just kind of managing for us. Now that Taiwan has been here for your word words yet? I think I said earlier that I think now that Groph is there.

1:03:59You know, baseball is behind him now. He went through a learning curve last year. I thought just trying to play football again. Now you see how to make some steps. And I think going into the fall will be able to help us in the fall. What's that learning curve like when he's playing baseball in dedicated time? Well, it's technique, right? You're just on a football. You know, eyes, eye discipline, how to get off the ball, how to get off blocks. All those things take time to learn how to do it. If you haven't done it before, right? You know what I mean? It's like, difference swinging a bat and hitting the guy in the mouth. You know what I mean? And so that's the difference. And you got to learn how to do that. Yeah. So, was there more of the learning curve there? And did you see something change last year and you're getting gone up to the graph? Basically? Yeah, for early on, it was a struggle for him because it was all new to him. You know, even though he played football, but he hadn't played football over two years, three years. It was all baseball. And so just basically learning the game, understanding boxing scheme and seeing all. It took time to do that. And then you saw it in a season, started to do a good job and started to understand it. Now with spring football on his belt and last season, you can see the difference in him right already. That he's starting to learn how to play the game. Very tightly put it on the top.

1:05:00He worked on his system. Hmm? He got there right after. No doubt. What's the next step? What can you see? What can you be? Continue to do what he's doing. He's working real hard right now. You know, he's working real hard. He's lack what I thought. He was going to be coming back in the season where we're big. You know, there's still more. You know, he's running to the ball full speed every play. He wants to be great. And when you have that in your mind, you know, everything's a challenge. I'm going to add you to your new coach for a long time. And having a good fight this is a special experience. How much do you say the best you can, the most? The rest of your self-management is the best you can. I tell you what we do. I've challenged myself every year as a coach. How can I be better? You know, I need to be better. You go back and watch what you did as a coach. I watch every single play all over again to an off season. And then I find things I think I could do better as a coach. That's my job. Right? And then I take those things and we work to crap out. I'm very fortunate to have some really great coaches. Coach Clark is a great young coach who's coming next to me.

1:06:01And we barbed BT. And now we have all these eyes in the room of all my guys. And I think that's make us better. And so that's what I'm looking forward to. We meet every day about every single guy, every technique, and finding ways to make him better every day. And so I think that's the key for me going forward. Just make sure we do that. We don't talk about, go ahead. What's it like having a coach on the side? You're a stop sign. You're a stop sign. You know, you know, you know, you know, you know, doing this in 129, 28 years. You know, you never had an opportunity to do a watch and play. He was a jetman at Penn State. But it's pretty cool. It really is. And he wants to be in this, want to be in a long time and get, I kind of talked him out of it, you know, because it's a coaching thing. But then finally, he said, Dad, this is what I want to do. And so, you know, thanks to Ryan. We had an opportunity to put him on the staff. And he's doing really well. He's doing really well. He loves football. And he's part of his team, so to be able to chase your dreams real smart. And you're really cool about him. He'll see him do it. We got a more questions. We don't talk about tie as much as we talk about tie league and Jack and Jake. Do you think there's a reason why he's a little underrated? I don't, I don't see much other way. Tie is a hammer.

1:07:01Tie is a physical player inside. If you watch his play from last year, there's time where he was just, we call it Bobbledown. He just took it in the center and just shaking his head. Very strong, very physical. And the thing that we did well last year, we tackled well on the inside. And that was tie league and tie. It had a really great job. Mike really did a good job. And he managed in the middle of the other tee-fights. And tie to me is a sleeping giant. It really is because he makes us go. He makes go. He's smart. He's a leader. And he knows exactly what he wants to do. And I love that about tie. Yeah. We've asked about football earlier. We've asked about a lot of different guys. How do you balance town? You have to talk about it. It's a depth we have behind it. You know, you're trying to figure out a rotation also, and that it's gonna play on the top of the table of game. Yeah, no doubt. And that's what we're talking about. You know, a chance to play 17 games. We've never done that before. And so early on this season, we may play a lot more young players in a situation to make sure we get to the stretch, right? And I think our older players now understand like, what we're up against. And the thing I will say to you that we don't have jealous season in Rome.

1:08:02We don't have that. We have a bunch of guys that want to win. And if you can help us win, I want you to help us win. That's the attitude in Rome. And so they understand that we have to go into the season. We'll have to rotate and we have to do early in the season and get a chance to get to the back end of the season. We're gonna do what we want to do. Not rotating last year. Was that more about top end of the room and how good those guys were? Or maybe some more show guys like you and Yall and Kate and not best there at the game ready for the next round? Oh, no doubt about it. Yeah, you know, quite ready last year to throw those guys in and say, go battle. You know what I mean? You gotta be smart. You know, I mean, you don't want to put them in a situation where they have a handicap, a handicap being like they fail. And then everybody down. You could carry that. And I'm really good about not putting freshments in a position where they have a chance to fail. I want to be successful. Now those guys have no doubt. They have the experience. Now let's go play. And that's what we're gonna try to do with in the season. What do you think about asking even college where we're going to go? We get to it in the question. Who's asking me? What do you think about asking your college roster to tolerate the 17 games in the schedule? There's never been done before. And so it's gonna be tough. We have to find out.

1:09:02Ask that question in the season. And I mean, right now we don't know. We just know as long as it could be a long season. You know, Larry, do you have a good idea to cross-drain JT and Jacket? I'll tell you about that. I think it's great. I mean, we do a little bit at now and I drop eight. It's defense. We do a little bit at now. So it's not a big deal. You're gonna rush the red drop and they do that right now. And just a matter of change in the front on the inside. I mean, that's all. We haven't gotten there yet, but I know Coach Noah is interested in trying to speedrun that a little bit. Is that a response to try to find something to match up against an obstacle to find the focus? I'm gonna be pushing it with a good 6-7 guys. Yeah, like 12 personnel. 13 personnel. 14 personnel. Now you've got to chance to match up. Play bigger guys on the field. You might play three tackles on the field. And then two big heads. So just a way to kind of offset that little bit. Yeah, but we're not there yet. We haven't put it in yet, but it's a thought process. Experience you have with a lot of these guys. You can start for some moments and get ready to do a series. Is there any situation you're coaching for where you've had that much experience?

1:10:02Only once when we had the Sam Hubbard, Jalen Homes, DeBosa, Chase, that group. That group was really, really a veteran group. Now we did a lot with those guys. That's where the Rushman Package came. Because we're going to get those guys on the field. But these guys are, you know, I like to, I like the guys are back. But I like the young guys who started to go. Because they can see what it takes to be great, right? And so there's a great example of those guys. Just imagine those guys who love, there'll be a lot of young players trying to learn from young players. And so we have a bonus right now that these guys are all back. Is there any more depth now? Is there any more depth now? Is that correct? Yeah. Question of the Rushman Package, I think, last year there was time for Chase to leave inside at the time. Jack and I were going to get inside. What do you like about those two guys inside in the Rushman Package situation? How much of that is just, we want the experience guys to go inside. Yeah, he really is just a match-up. I look for a match-up, right? There's a guard that we think we got a great match-up for a Rushman. You know, we want to take advantage of that. And so we have to look and see how we go through the season. How much we can use the Rushman Package or we know we have Pass Rush and just how we're going to use it.

1:11:02Put the piece together. And we'll figure it out as we go in. Yeah. Coach, thank you very much. Thank you, Larry. Thank you, Coach. Yeah. Thanks, guys. Thanks, Larry. Thanks. Thanks. Thanks. Thanks. Thanks. Thanks. Thanks. We grew up in the same park, but we played both on the same park, so it's a real close family friend. We're family friends. How many people? I'm two years older than I am. Did you have discussion with him before you came out? Yeah. I had a discussion with him. Yeah. How close was your pitch? You know, he's so smart. You came for Sweden. So, like, I wasn't even talking about recruiting. It was just, you know, just keeping that connection, just keeping going and talking. Because I knew at the end of the day he was going to make the right decision. So, yeah. How much are you going to create a lead race? And how much? He's a huge difference maker. He's always, like, light on him since he was a little kid, so, like, this is nothing dude right now. So, in fall, he came to show everyone that he's really, like, he's really liked that. And make a name for himself again if people just didn't remember.

1:12:03Do you think you'd play some on the outside this year? We saw you kind of line up there a little bit. Are you expanding what you're doing? Right now, I really don't know. It's so far away from the season. You know, I can play everywhere. So, that's how they can use me as safety. They can use me as corner. They can use me as nickel. So, really, anywhere I play anywhere, the coach wants me to play out. I know my ass trying to win. Seriously, considering what you do inside. Just a brotherhood, you know, everyone was coming back and saw me. And what I looked like was going to leave. But I just wanted to leave out of here in the National Championship. And we just left so much behind. I feel like our class came in one of the best class that ever come through Ohio State. And we needed to leave out of here with something. So, that's why I came back. What did you do? You were going to come back. You know, just after the ballgame, I was going to come back. Just seeing everyone. And kind of before the ballgame, we all had a discussion.

1:13:04And we just want to come back and finish with our Angle or National Championship. What's their kind of feeling? We've done a lot. We've done a lot. That's all individual decision. It's also a group decision. Yeah, it was a group decision. You know, we had individual decision, but we had to leave out of here with something. You know, so I feel like this year, we finally put it on. We actually, like, conversations. It was a nice thing. It was both. We had a conversation. And it says, Tom? He's had a conversation. During last year, we were talking to coach Moles about basically kind of feeling sunny. It was maybe early in the year, maybe half a year. He was still almost kind of into meeting. I like, well, if you're talking about it, it's sort of a different scene. Maybe that's a good thing. That's exposing you in a way that you didn't want to. But then having to simply play that full time down in the second half of our last year, what did that do for you?

1:14:05Do you think it made you a better player than before coming into the competition? Yeah, definitely made me a better nipple. Just learning from sunny, put me on with a lot of game and stuff like that. I just, I've really had to flip my mindset from just playing corner. And then just playing nipple, but now it's one of the best nipples in the country. So that's kind of my mindset right now. What is the biggest difference between playing one of those new sessions? A lot of runfits, you got to be in the runfits. You're guarding quicker receivers in that slot. So that's kind of the whole, it's two different techniques from outside and inside. I've been really working on it. If you see last year, I got a lot more comfortable in the slot when I was kind of like the main slot, when I kind of focused on it. And it's just my game elevator from there. I'll just keep on elevating and I'm just excited for this. What's the specific work you've been doing there to get better? Oh, just catch technique.

1:15:05Just not giving as much ground and wine experiments and stuff like that. What do you have at a point? What's it been like to see sunny and second level? Oh, yeah, he's a dog out there. You can see there's a huge transformation with him. We can go out there and play yine. This is so much versatility. I'm just happy to be able to change. I know Lorenzo's been playing some nickel with you. What kind of growth have you seen from him? He's going a lot. He's always in the film room. He's always going to go hard. So he's going to be a great ball player down the road. What do you have to do with him? You're a very skilled corner now. In this situation where you're talking about what fits, and that's just part of what you have to do now. What you're going to play in there is that something you have to get used to, or how did you... Oh, no. I've never really had to get used to, you know, most people at corner they can't go play inside, but I just like eating. It's just something about it. So really just that. It was just a natural transition. It is pretty crazy, right?

1:16:05When you're playing in there, you have to be physical enough to play the run. But then you have to be quick enough to play all these little quick slot receivers. Yeah, it's crazy. But that's why I feel like it's the most fun position on the field. So add a gain, gain a little bit more weight in this offseason to bring more power into it. Because I got to take office at bars and tighten in every time. So yeah, I had to gain some weight, you know. I feel like I've gotten a lot stronger. So I think it's a gain that weight and keep your foot in. Right. Yeah, which is like they're constantly trying to strike that balance, right? Yeah, certainly. I feel like they're sort of mixing you in the class summer training camps in the morning. Maybe before that, but what did it feel like you were starting to pull the embrace and like, I love this position. I want to make it. Probably, I fully embrace it. It was like, was constantly, you know, I played a lot of, I was going like, playing reps and all that. But then, uh, Nathan, he got injured. And so that moves suddenly to strong safety. So I had no choice.

1:17:05Really used. I'm just really happy to play that position. Like I'm thinking for it. You're forcing about to that. Yeah, of course, if I'm, I had a lot of production that week somehow. It was like a night game. I wanted to make, make plays out there. Jim said that you really stepped up at that point during the season once Nathan went down. You say that that week is when you really had to like, embrace it fully. And then how much did that game spearhead the rest of the season for you? Like confidence that you can handle all that. Yeah, it was, it was crazy. I think that whole October, just from October to, uh, to November. Like that. I'm here. I had a really crazy stretch like almost every game in October. I had an interception. Well, I just kind of dropped one, it gets Michigan State. But I feel like every game in October, November, I, that's when I was in position. So how much does the guy like wall help prepare you for that kind of switch in the middle? Oh, yeah. If I didn't have Coast Wall, like, I don't know if I could make that position switch.

1:18:06There's just so much cerebral things you have to know at the position. So Coast Wall, he got an info background and he knows every single unit, D line. So I had a Northland D line linebackers because sometimes I do the same thing with steel chambers going last year in the same position. So if I didn't have Coast Wall, I don't know how long. That takes a lot of like behind the scenes work that like sometimes I assume you like, I don't even know this because I'm not playing. Nickles, like, how much work goes behind the scenes because wall watching film talking about stuff? Yeah, people don't see it. We're in here at 630. Like Coast Wall, he comes to the building like 5 a.m. So I went in here at like 630, watch film with him. After practice, meet and watch him film and just walk through. You know, it wasn't, it wasn't easy at first, but he got on me, stayed on me a lot. He helped me accountable and just, I'm thinking for that. Yeah, it's going to be good. You know, he's a real good football player.

1:19:07He can hit, he can cover, so it's going to be good having him back. He's going to be good at it. He's going to be good at it. He's going to be a good fit for us. You know, he played a lot of ball like started, started anus and saw him with you. Yeah, he's going to be a good fit for us. You know, he played a lot of ball like started anus and saw him with you. So it was crazy, good to have him back when I was having that. The best defense is the last five years, 20-19 last year. And common thread team, he having a slot corner or a slash. So he's like, you know, some shot weight, 20-19, kind of broad things together. Who's next? Who's next? Yeah. Like for a slot. And guys, you've seen, who do you think's next in that role? I think Miles, you know, he's under-sized, but I feel like he just brings it. Like he's got the mentality to play. And he really likes to love the game. He really studies hard.

1:20:07And I feel like he's going to be up next for the Nichols Pop. What have you seen out of Aaron's got? I'm Bryce's a big alumni. I don't understand. What have you seen out of Aaron in these first couple weeks that they've been here to? Aaron's good. He's competing real hard. He's run to the ball. He's learning, he's getting better every single time he's getting better. So that's what I've seen from him. Think about the difference in just top to bottom talent in that room in the last one. When you got here to know, how much you think of it? It's crazy, you know, coming in. I don't even know how to explain it, but our room is so talented right now. Like anybody can go out there, even our two's and three's gonna go out there and start anywhere else in the country. From top down is super talented. We got young dudes like Aaron, Miles and Bryce. So they're gonna go out there and ball in a couple of years. And I'm excited for the future and potential. Those guys give you any crap about you and then draw them back and keep them up to the finish. They're talking about it a little bit, but not for real.

1:21:08They just want to really want to learn from us. They're super smart kids and they just, they're just real eager to learn. So yeah, the longer you land, how much ownership is it or a veteran guy do you feel as to what this defense is going to look like next year after you're gone? And those second and third string guys are now the top of the network. Yeah, it's gonna be wild because right now they're gonna be ready because what stays on them. Me, Deselle, we stay on them. Dave stays on them. So they have no choice but to carry on the tradition. I feel like they're gonna do it real with Miles and Bryce in here. They're gonna hold up the BIA transition person. Hey, Jordan, is it too early to assess the, for you to assess the spot receivers? For you to assess the Ohio State spot receivers that you're going against? Oh, I played them last year. I went up against them last year. They're all good. Bryson, Brandon and Keon plays a little bit in the slot. And yeah, they're gonna be real good. They're gonna be, I mean, Meg too. Of course, we know what Meg does. So one of the best slots in the country.

1:22:10So it's gonna be fine. Even when Meg leaves, there's gonna be no drop off. Great. Thank you, Jordan. Thank you, Gary. Appreciate it. Have a safe break. Thank you. Thank you. You got it. I don't know what to talk about that. Just sure you'll have a meeting or something. Take a seat. I'll figure it out. Everybody should have a seat. I'm sure I'll keep it. Peace. I don't know what to talk about. How much is it for you to be fine? Well, I'm gonna be good at real attention. I guess. It's gonna help me. And then the other people, that's fine, fine, fine. Yeah, well, I mean, first off, I think I'd be doing a disservice to my teammates. You know, me even think about what's next. Because you know, what's right in front of us is an overview. And that's another thing I got to tell me. So much. Drew is just being present in every single room that I'm in. You know, not looking too far ahead because I'm tripping on what's right in front of me.

1:23:13So, again, that's too self-reaching of a thing. It's a meeting for me to be thinking about what's next. Are you at least aware that there's a lot of speculation out there that people are gonna throw a huge number of things that you're going before. I mean, right now I'm just not worried about all that stuff. People can say all they want to say, but, you know, I'm just focused on... Focus on Friday night. When you're in front of the fire, nervous. Nervous? I mean, I still get nervous for sure, but I just don't think. I think I do a good job of just understanding that at that moment, whatever moment it is that I'm nervous about, it doesn't define who I am as a person, and it doesn't define who I am and God's eyes. And understanding and knowing that has just kind of put this force field of peace around me that I think gave it, allows me to be able to be calm in certain situations, but it doesn't...

1:24:16I still get nervous. I mean, I just love the game so much. And if you don't get nervous or a little bit of work, I don't think you have that same love. I mean, I've got butterflies since, you know, going into football again since I was, you know, five, six years old. So I don't know if that's the only thing that I'm just going to do. I didn't know. I just, you know, football just doesn't mean as much as it did to me back then. I want to tell always me that much. I've not even read all those studies here. I've been told, but I think... I want to knock on wood, barring any freak accidents. So I just, you know, I want to be here. I want to be a part of this team. And, you know, when you want to, when you have passion to add value, that makes it a little easier to get up and do the workouts in the off season.

1:25:18You know, whether you're 22 or going to be 31. So yeah, I mean, it's definitely special. You talk about the organizational little bit. I mean, they haven't always had this reputation of rewarding the players. You see this off season, St. Brown, golf, you know, a name, not yourself. What does it say about the organization that, you know, you feel like it's changing the reputation a little bit. We're rewarding the guys like this. Well, first and foremost, those three guys absolutely deserving of every penny they got. Incredible. And, you know, me being in the room with Penae every single day, like, I was, you know, ecstatic for him. And of course, the other guys, Penae is my line. He's my guy. I think it speaks to a good culture that's been built. And it's not built on sand. It's genuine, it's real. You bring certain guys in because of what they can add, not just as players, but as people.

1:26:19And like I said, it's, it's a genuine thing that the, that the staff is looking for. And it's not, oh, we're just going to bring this guy in and then get rid of him and try to find something cheaper. I just think it speaks to the culture. We find guys that fit. We find guys that represent what we're about. Not only are they phenomenal players, but they represent us. They represent the city. And to be able to keep a core group of guys around, I feel like more and more in the NFL. You guys coming in and out. And it's hard to develop kind of some cohesiveness. And especially us on the offensive line, we got to play together for a long time now. And that's valuable. I mean, it's, that's big time. And then you think even the quarterback position, where his drops are, how he moves in the pocket, things like that. And then Jared and his familiarity with, with Saint. And I think it speaks to, they want to win. We want to win. This is what we're here to do. We're here to win. So we're going to keep our guys. They can help us win.

1:27:22Yeah. I talked to last week and expressed your desire to stay, but didn't sound like anything was imminent. Can you just take us through how this came together from your perspective? So I bring, I've been going back and forth a little bit for probably about a year and a half now with the organization. Because I knew like I want to be here. There was no, no questions for me like, this is the place I want to be. I want to stay here. And then there's just a lot of moving parts. I'm not the only person in this organization. I'm not the only guy that wants to contract extension. And then I think. Coming off two surgeries, I think they probably wanted to see how I was moving around a little bit. And then in OTAs, I actually went up and I had a conversation with Dan. I was like, where are we at? You know, I hear things from my agent. And you know, from our salary cap people and they're talking and I'm getting kind of secondhand information. I want to hear it. Like tell me where we're at just so I know I just want the information so it's communicated well.

1:28:25And pretty much what he told me was to it to you what happened. And I just basically had to had to stay patient. And for me, it was never going to be hold out of training camp. Oh, if it comes to the season, we're not going to play games like that. That's just not me. I'm going to show up and I'm going to play because that's what I do. And that's what I'm here to do. So I think it was pretty seamless. I just talked to Charlie and Disneyer upstairs. They said it was super smooth. I think it happened in a day, which was pretty much all my second one happened. And my third one happened as well pretty quickly. So I think there's I think there's value in just showing up and going to work. And I think the team knows that I'm not going to change just because I'm not getting what I want when I want it. And then ultimately we both got what we wanted. So for me, it was just I got the information that I wanted from Dan.

1:29:26And when we communicated, man to man, and it was very amicable. And since that conversation, I felt like it was promising that it would happen. I didn't know when exactly. I had a ballpark idea. And then it all worked out. You know, I showed up to camp. I went and played. And the agents and the salary cap people do their thing. And now, you know, moving forward, I can just focus on playing football. Going through camp day to day. I don't have to have any of that hanging over my head. And it's pretty good feeling. Taylor, all I am doing in the Liberty Fankless job, but it's not here. What does it mean to play for a team that values that side of the game? And when did you first sense that from Brad and Dan? You know, there's a couple times every single camp where Dan will come into the offensive line room.

1:30:27And he'll say, I need to see it today. And I've never had a head coach come in our room and say something like that. And he would pop in every now and then and just say like, today, I need to see it from you guys. Not that we're not out there working hard every single day, but he's like, my eyes are on you guys today. And it seems like a lot of those times, there are kind of some ballbuster practices that are going to be kind of a grind it out. And that's what offensive line is. And I think you see it with the way they draft, they draft guys in the trenches. And even Dayton back to before they were hired, this organized, I was drafted, Graham was drafted, Joe was always drafted in my class. Frank was draft, like we were drafting lineman. We were trying to build this team the right way. And we had some pieces and then Brad and Dan just continued to build on that. And I think it's paying dividends. And I can't speak enough to, you know, going back to the culture fit of the quality of people that they bring in.

1:31:33And how when you get along, I don't know, just people's play flourishes even more. And that's another big reason, like this is where I wanted to be. I had pretty much no interest in going to any other team. I wanted to be here and a big factor of that is the guys that I get to play with. And I want to continue to play with them because they're important to me. And I think, you know, the offensive and defensive line based on how the drafts have gone and based on the quality of player that they've brought in. I mean, you can see that it's, it's definitely of importance to the organization. Kind of along the same lines, given where the roster is, given the success of the team's head recently, is there something extra-validating about getting your first contract extension under this specific regime? Yeah, 100%. Not that I didn't think that they wanted me here because if they didn't want me here, I wouldn't be here. But I had gotten my second contract from a, you know, a previous regime basically.

1:32:37It's not like I never felt like I was like one in here, but it's just like that little extra. Hey, we want you here and we want you to continue to add value. Because we're a young team and I'm not getting any younger. But I still think I can play and I think I can play for as long as I want. And that's kind of kept me young and I feel like that's kept me motivated to kind of have that edge. But yeah, I mean, it's just that little extra where just kind of reconfirmed. I mean, when Dan was hired, he called me that same day. So it's not an instance of, oh, I'm not one in here. They just kind of doubled down with this contract. We love you, we respect you, we want you here, we think you can play. We think you can continue to add value. And let's get this thing going. Thank you guys. Thanks guys.

1:33:37Okay, so you used the photo of you at your daughter's and I want to go more. It's an absolute dime to carnal tape, but stand out throw of a day. And I think with Lincoln having another year of experience, it just felt to me like Lincoln was in a little bit more control out there. It felt like he had a little bit more command of what he was doing out there. Where's it felt to me like Julian was just a little bit off today. Yeah, our command is a good way to put it. And that kind of throw to carnal, beautiful go ball up the sideline. It ends up being a 45 yard touchdown. Carnal had half a step, a step on his defender. And it was right where it needed to be. But it wasn't the only impressive throw. I think Lincoln had a really nice throw over the middle on a slant route to fill up the freshmen. He had a few other nice ones mixed in there. It wasn't a perfect day for Lincoln. He also under threw a couple balls that I saw. But on the whole, I think it's definitely fair to say he was the most impressive of the quarterbacks today. And I would actually even put Tavy and St. Clair second in that grouping. Tavy and had some really nice flashes, especially early in the practice. Didn't have that consistency as the practice went on.

1:34:37It was clearly a freshman still learning. But Julian missed on some throws today for with interception. I think there's clear strides that he needs to take to claim the starting job ultimately for Ohio State. And look, I think if anything else that Lens Creedence to, at least at this point in the off season, this is a real competition between Julian and Lincoln. I think if this is what's been consistently shown behind the scenes, obviously this is just one practice we get to watch. But if this is what's consistently shown behind the scenes, I think Lincoln has a real shot to ultimately win the job this fall. And of course, we'll have another big opportunity to watch the quarterbacks and all these guys next week at the spring game. And I think it'll be really telling, at least for us, do we see Julian make some of those strides next week? He struggled in the spring game last year. Will he have a better showing in the spring game this year? I think that would go a long way for him. Certainly for Lincoln to kind of keep building some momentum as he tries to keep himself up before front of that competition. And yeah, like you said, you know, KVN was only with the third team today. And so, you know, it's pretty clear of it right now.

1:35:39It's a Lincoln versus Julian battle in terms of who they're evaluating to be that starting quarterback. But I mean, I think one of the plays of the day, early into practice, KVN, he spins away from a Russia, throws a beautiful ball down the field to David Adolf. There were a few times today where you could really see KVN's athleticism on display, his ability to evade rushers and extend plays. And I think that's one of the things that gives him a lot of potential. So, you know, I think Tatyana would still have to come a long way to have a chance to be the starting quarterback this year. But I think you can certainly see those flashes of his potential to be a star quarterback for Ohio State in the future. Going away from a quarterbacks, you know, there were several guys that stood out to me today. I think one of the biggest ones was Quincy Porter. It sounded like after practice he lost his black stripe, which would make him the first of this year's freshman to lose his black stripe, which is certainly a notable achievement. And he was a guy, you know, you heard, you know, Austin Edwards on the PA calling his name all day. He made a lot of plays. One of them a really nice diving catch on a throw from Lincoln Keenholes.

1:36:40And he looks like a guy, you know, we don't have the same expectations for Quincy Porter, but we did for Jeremiah Smith a year ago as a freshman. But there's been positive things said about him all spring. And looking at what he did out here today, he looks like a guy you has the potential to help Ohio State as a freshman. Yeah. And when Jeremiah was coming in last year, I talked a lot about the polish that he had coming from Florida and playing in that league. I mean, coming out of New Jersey, I think there's Quincy Porter has some of that, even in the Catholic league that he played in was really difficult. He, I think, is impressive with his size and the refinement of his game, the way he uses his size to make catches. Like he was walling him off defenders on a couple of catches. We saw that diving one. You mentioned the way he's able to weaponize his length and have that big catch radius. I think because it's one thing to be tall. It's another thing to actually be a good tall receiver, you know, like a Marvin Harris in junior was, like a Jeremiah Smith is. I think Quincy Porter has that potential and he's really flashed it today. As the starters go receiver wise, I think Brandon NS had a fantastic outing today.

1:37:43Had a really nice post-rial. I think Lincoln's probably second best bow he made besides the go ball to Carnell. He had Brandon NS on a really nice post-row out down the field. Brandon had made a big gain on that play. There were other ways they were getting him involved in the offense coming across the field with some underneath throws. Things of that nature. Phil Bell also really stood out to me as far as another freshman goes. Not as much as Quincy, but they were mixing him in with the twos and the threes, getting him some, some of those reps and getting him some looks a lot of underneath passes to him. For me though, I think out of everyone, the biggest standout might have been Bo Jackson today. There was a run that Bo Jackson had where the first play is after we got out here on the field. Bo, Bo, two or three tackles, running up the middle on a play and picked up about 11 yards. Carson Hensman's walking past me and he says, Bo, like that for real. That's like, yes. Watching him today, there was a shotgun toss they did to him coming on the outside. He picked up about 24 yards on it and just outrunning the defenders.

1:38:44You can see the burst. You can see the willpower. You can see how he always keeps his legs turning to me. Bo Jackson was a really impressive standout today. And maybe a guy that could challenge for some carries come fall. Yeah, we've talked a lot about James Peoples and CJ Donaldson. Both of them have looked really good this spring, but yeah, the way Bo was running today, I think he's a guy to watch too. And he make that a three man running back rotation rather than just a two man running back rotation. If he keeps practicing like he did today, I think he's got a chance. We flip it over to the other side of a ball. I think probably the biggest standout on defense to me was Peyton Pierce. Another guy we've been hearing a lot of good things about all spring long. James Lauren Knight is really talking him out. He was getting a lot of first team reps out there today. You know, sunny style is one of the veterans who's getting some limited reps coming off a plan a ton last year. So Peyton Pierce was out there a lot with the ones. And he made multiple pass breakups. You know, you can see why James Lauren Knight is keeping talking him up as a guy who is going to be one of those top free linebackers this year.

1:39:45And he's going to play a lot of football for the buck guys this season. Yeah, I was thinking with the defense to me too. And that front group, Kate McDonald was really good today. Had one of his classic goal-wide and stuff. We saw him make a few of those even during the highest-dates national championship run. Last year, that was kind of his way to get involved in the defense last season in those goal-wide short yardage packages. But he pressured a throw. I believe it was from Julian Sain. He looped around and didn't hit him basically forced in the completion. Or not hit him because I don't think the quarterbacks were live at that point. But he pressured him, forced it in completion. Had a PBU that he batted down. Was constantly getting in the backfield and making chaos. Also defensively, I thought Aaron Scott had a really good day in coverage. He was paired up against Jeremiah Smith a lot of the time. He had a PBU working against Jeremiah. There were a couple of other plays where Jeremiah may have made the catch. But Aaron was right there. And I mean, you're talking about the best receiver in the country, right? He made Jeremiah work for it is one of them saying. And a lot of corners aren't capable of making Jeremiah work for it.

1:40:47But he was right there in coverage. He had another couple good reps against other receivers. To me, Aaron Scott was one of the more impressive defensive backs today. And then, Jermaine Matthews also within interception. So I think the corner back room really looking strong in this practice for Ohio State. I agree completely. Devon Sanchez made a couple plays as well. He had a break up against Jeremiah Smith. Lorenzo Stiles Jr., he almost had an interception of a really nice break on a ball. I believe he was going up against Brandon Innison coverage. And so I think you're seeing the depth of that room. Aaron Scott, Devon Sanchez, both mixing in a lot with IGB in Jermaine Matthews at that first team defense today. Lorenzo taking a lot of a rep spirit nickel. But it seems like those five guys, that seems to be kind of that top of that corner back group. And I try to take advantage of these reps when you get the goal for once. No, it's definitely. I think I was definitely trying to take advantage of each and every rep that I got today. Like I said, just looking forward to getting better tomorrow.

1:41:48So that point, Justin, looking at the first team defense in the past, would have been able to screen so far about some of the guys that they've opened into the secondary like L.A. Yeah, I mean, Design, I mean, you felt his presence. I mean, OTA, I think he's been a great addition to the defense. He brings a lot of energy. He's just up and he's a great player. So I can't wait to get the pads on because I hear he's pretty physical too. So I played against him a little bit when I was trying to go on. He was in the choice of I kind of played against him a couple of times, but I mean, he's a great player and has been great so far. What kind of input did you get from Russ? And throughout practice, he's been watching the entire team from the team drills and even trying to get his first bow and... Oh, yeah. I mean, Russ is always, you know, any question that I have, I can always better rest, ask him for advice. You know, he's going to get his knowledge to me. Of course, he's been in the lead for a long time. So, you know, any advice he has for me, I'm always open and willing to take that. But he was really just, you know, trying to follow along practice. He had the script in his hands and really is just trying to play the practice mentally so as we all are, it's quarterback. So, yeah. You know, did you find out that Russ wasn't going to be practicing the corner like that?

1:42:51Yeah. It's like the short term dessert for us. Yeah, I found out right when I woke up this morning. So, you know, last night, just looking over the place, but this morning, I recorded my coach this afternoon, so be ready to catch the rest of the ones that they both... It's morning, but it's good, you know, to say, to us in short term, I mean, some diversity, you know, some stuff that's, you know, not expected, you know, because we're going to face things in games that aren't expected. So, you know, it's about how we react to those situations and how we adjust. You know, I think it was like six o'clock, so I woke around six thirty, but yeah, I think, you know, six around six o'clock. Did I change my approach? Did I change my approach? Did I change my approach? I drove off a little or...? Not really, you know. I just tried to, you know, do my job for my teammates, and I'm not really changing anything. I try to come out here the same guy every day. She's trying to be consistent. I felt alright. Of course, it wasn't perfect. There's always room to improve, but I felt alright. You know, you know, my miss, I got bumped into...

1:43:54I'm not going to talk about that, but I felt alright overall. Got some good reps in the day, for sure. Seems like you guys have started targeting the tight end, but how did you... How's it been working with Pat from... What did you think you could use here in your zone? Yeah, I mean, Pat, one thing about Pat, he's really savvy, smart, and then he also has a great hands, too. So when you, you know, get all those attributes in the tight end, it makes him a great player. You played a lot of... You had a lot of 12 and 13 out there, right? Yeah, for sure. As much as you expected, more than the extra two. You know, we're a team that can do a lot of things. You know, we have a lot of good players on our offense, and I think you can mix it up a good bit, so we're not really expecting anything, so. Do you think you're getting country, and you got that text first thing I mean? No, not really. I mean, they're not going to say that, you know, mess with your head like that, but, you know, I... Yeah, so I didn't really think I was going to get planted off. Is that going to be good tomorrow? I'm not sure. I'm not sure how it's going right now. I've talked to them, so we'll see. Go for more.

1:44:54Or not. All right. Thank you. All right. All right. All right. So, we have to, and I think initially treat them differently, but quickly we have to get them, you know, all in the same page, that we're all in the same page. And so as spring goes on, we'll do that, but early on we'll be really smart, especially coming off a spring break. Are we going to write, tell me, and, yes. WSYH. Brian, you mentioned the spring showcase, looking a little bit different this year, and you guys are so passionate about those details. Are you able to share what that might look like? Not yet. Yeah, I mean, there will certainly be opportunities to scrimmage,

1:45:56and it'll look like a game, but, you know, because of some of the guys that we mentioned, we still want them out there doing some things. So that will probably be in some drill work, and some seven on seven work, and be good to get everybody out there so that the fans can see them. But the most important thing is getting the young guys game reps with, hopefully, a good crowd out there. So that, because we know the next time again, we'll be against Texas. So we'll also have to take a hard look at the health of our team as we get into the end of April. So we have to be able to adjust and be flexible with it. But again, that's the goal. It was to get these guys as many reps as we can in the stadium. No, I got the lantern. Brian, now that you've got that week after the national championship sort of reflect and sit back, what do you think the biggest thing is that you learned about yourself during that entire playoff run? Just to trust the process. Yeah, and just keep pushing, and, you know, sometimes, you know, we all know that it's easy to say it's a little bit different to do

1:46:57is you just, again, trust the process and make the adjustments and keep pushing forward. You know, we always say, you know, ignore the noise, whether it's good or bad, because criticism and praise are all the same. You just have to, you know, focus on what you're focused on, and all the work and decisions that are made during the beginning of the season. You know, we have to adjust and tweak them, but at the same time, we also have to believe in what we believe in in our philosophy. And I think it's also, you know, making sure that you're recruiting the right people that, you know, when you do have a tough moment, you know, everyone's able to stick together and not go in different directions and fray. I think those are all learning lessons. Hey, Ben, 24 seconds. Brian, as you enter spring balls, they're a position group or groups that you're concerned about depth wise, and might you guys add more from the portal? And you already done a good job in portal, but... You know, one of the things for us that was tricky was, you know, the portal was open before our season, and open-ended closed before our season was over. And that's something that we got to take a hard look at with rules.

1:47:59You know, and people will say, well, you know, you guys just won the national championship. What are you complaining about? Well, that matters for this year's team. And so that was a major challenge for us. Because as you can imagine, you know, if you are trying to add somebody in the portal, but you're still trying to finish your season out, how that can affect your current roster. So, and then the second part of that is, we get down with the season, and, you know, Notre Dame and Ohio State are the only two teams with guys in the portal for that five-day window, and everybody else is closed, and it's open season on our players for five days. Like, we got to take a hard look at this to figure out what's right, you know, and whether there's just one window in the spring portal, once all that is flushed out. To me, it's either that or you move back to games. But again, we can talk about that in another date. So, you know, we will obviously look in the portal based on how things come out of the spring. We'll look at that. Because, you know, we have to fill out a roster too. You know, there's some positions that we don't, we're not of capacity right now.

1:49:00So, depth, let's see. And on defense, I would say right now, D-Lion is probably of the biggest concern just in terms of replacing those four guys, and then also, you know, losing hero. So, that's five guys right there that, you know, we have to replace. I think that we have some good guys and good options there, but that will be a focus. You know, in offense, you know, all line is always something that we need to take a look at and see how some of those new guys fit in and how it all comes together. You know, and then losing Quinchon and trying to running back, you know, James. And now we have CJ and some of the younger guys that, you know, now they have to carry the water. So, that's going to be, you know, big and obviously a quarterback would be the big, you know, the big focus. So, I think when you look at it on offense, it's really just, you know, replacing Will, replacing Trivion and Quinchon. And then, and then how the offense align comes together. And then again, on defense, it's, you know, losing those, those five guys, you know, and seeing who's going to step up and those guys.

1:50:01Yep. That's it. Follow up on Matt, Patricia, obviously you mentioned he's done a lot of different things schematically in his time. What makes you confident that what he did, you know, me NFL will translate to the collegial loan? I think a lot of things that are going on, there's a trickle up and a trickle down effect right now. And you're seeing a lot of that happening. You're seeing a lot of guys transition, I think now more than in the past. You guys, you know, probably focus on a little bit more than me. But, you know, of what's going on in the NFL and what's going on in college, you're seeing a lot of carryover there. And I think with the playoff system in place, you're seeing that, you're seeing the coach communicate, coach the player communication, you're seeing huddling more. You know, the hash marks are different. And there's certain rules that are different, but there's a lot of similarities now. So, I think it's going to carry over well. You see quarterbacks who run and were mobile in the NFL nowadays. So, there's a lot more similarities now than in the past. And being in the league for just a couple of years, you know, the transition isn't as crazy as maybe it had been in the past.

1:51:02Jeremy Burbin has the podcast. Ryan, with your offensive staff being confirmed, I mean, you're almost 10 years older than everybody on staff, except for coach Scott, I think. How did that decision to, when shipped left, to that impact your decision with the defense coordinator, hire? Was there a thought that maybe you needed to go get somebody who was more of the head coach at a defense style based on the fact that you may have to come more time with the offense and you did less. Yes, I think that you need to have balance when you're looking at your entire staff. And you try to do that the best you can. And I believe very strongly that Brian's going to do a great job as an offensive coordinator. I think he's really grown in a lot of areas. I give him a lot of credit for, you know, he was named coordinator a couple years ago. I still called the plays. You know, then we brought in chip and his attitude of like, I'm just going to learn from chip in a big way. And then some of the work that he did, Keenan did and Billy did down the stretch and some of the past game.

1:52:03And I think he's got, you know, a really good handle now on protections and even in the run game. Like he's ready to call it now. But still going to be involved. Still going to just like I was last year. Still going to kind of make sure that, you know, we're all on the same page. Having Tyler there was important. But I think to your point, you know, I'm still going to be involved with the offense. But I'm able to kind of bounce into the defense. But the more times that we have guys who are experienced and veteran, you know, on that side of the ball. I'm going to stay on offense. It certainly helps. And I think, you know, taking the play calling away last year was really important. I want to continue to do that and surround myself with guys who, you know, we can hire to do jobs. And I'm able to take a step back and take a little bit of a different role. I think it helped the season. And I'd like to, you know, do that even more as we move forward. Rob Hall, or Columbus Disbibe? Yeah, more on Matt. He clearly has credibility with his NFL. But I'm just curious in your discussions with him and interviews or whatever. And why he decided to come back or come to college.

1:53:06He's not really bending college Syracuse a little bit. But how much of that was not a concern, but a discussion point? You've got recruiting. You've got a whole different culture. How did that play out? And what did he say that can kind of convince you that he really wants to be in the college game? I think you guys will get around Matt. You'll see his personality. You'll see the way he is. You'll just see, you know, what type of family man he is, type of daddy is, type of husband he is. You know, he did coach at Syracuse. He and Tim worked together there. But, you know, I grew up in New England. And I obviously saw the run that they went on there. And when you go on a run, the way that they went on, you know, you stayed a place for a long time. And, you know, I don't know if that was, you know, something that maybe even early on, he thought he was going to be in the NFL for as long as he did. But when you're around a great organization that goes on the run that they went on, you end up in a place for a long period of time. And then, you know, he's there for a while and then has an opportunity to become a head coach.

1:54:06Well, now, you know, it's almost like a different mindset. You know, maybe a little bit of a different chapter for him. Doesn't mean he's sure he'll have an opportunity to go back to the NFL. But, you know, I think it's Ohio State. I think he understands the culture. You know, we spent a lot of time talking. And I think he sees the opportunity here and he's excited about it. He's a new chapter that he can absolutely come in here and make a difference. And I think that's what he wants to do. And I don't think the recruiting part is going to be very difficult at all. And you'll see it when you get around him. Joe Nuchin, WCMH. Naturally, we'll be able to start in quarterback this year. Because you start that process, and if you got to be, that'll be. Where are you with that? What information do you feel like you have in the guys that are in the mix? There you are. And, you know, they're going to have to compete. And, you know, we need to quarterback to be tough. We need him to be a leader. I've said this before. They've had a great opportunity to watch Will even Tavion, you know, because he was a big part of, you know, being around these guys last spring. I don't think he missed the spring practice.

1:55:07He would come during the season for all the games. He was with us for the last two weeks or the last two games. He was able to see what that looked like. Lincoln was with him every day. Julian was with him every day. So like, that's the standard of what the leadership should look like. Now they got to go do it. And, you know, being the quarterback around here, and I mean, you start listening to the guys who have been here most recently, and down the history of Ohio State football. I mean, you're in, you know, you're some of the best names who've ever played the game. But the biggest thing they have to do is they got to lead and they got to be tough. So, a long way to go on it. Don't have any evaluation to go with right now, but it's going to be a big spring for those guys. Tony Gervin, how do you see the quarterback reps going? It's going to be like a 40, 40, 20 or 20. How are you expecting to break that down? Early on, we're going to try to roll. We're going to try to go three groups so that those guys get equal amount of reps. You know, we'll split up who goes where and even last year with the will. I mean, we did that. You know, guys who are getting reps with the ones, guys who are getting reps with the twos, the threes. You know, the times where wills out there with the threes early on. And just rolling because if you put one guy with the ones and twos, sometimes you can look a little different because of, you know, the younger guys, older guys.

1:56:12So now we're going to roll and we're going to try to get the best evaluation. We can will evaluate everything. But specifically early on in the spring, we want to roll those guys the best we can. Because the number one goal of spring is to get individual players better. It's it. You know, we can get scheme in and all that, but fundamentally, technically, we've got to get better as football players. And then once we get into the summer, we start putting the scheme together and we start coming with the chemistry of the team. Andrew Gillis, put me on the dot com. What are your expectations for Tyler going as a recruiter and in your higher process, how big of that was? Big, big. And you guys can probably already see he's making an impact. He's getting guys here. He works hard at it. You know, he makes connections. He's build relationships. He can evaluate at a high level. And I think he with. You know, with some of the guys that we have, you know, on the offensive staff together, the year you started to see a group or crew there. And so again, World House state, you know, we should have the best players in the country. And he understands that.

1:57:12And again, this is another guy. The more you get around him, you'll see his personality just jumps out at you. And the guys love being around them. So, you know, we'll see how the spring goes, but he's off to a good start. At Murphy, 24th on his horse. Brian, you mentioned Brian, aren't one being ready to take over play calling. What have you seen in the last two years? Why do you feel so comfortable? The first thing is his work ethic. He's worked his tail off. And when you evaluate coaches, you know, you got to work at it. You got to be one of the first guys in the building. You got to be one of the last guys to leave. I mean, you got to grind on it. I think he's made the transition from being a player to a coach very well. We've got a quick period of time. His recruiting speaks for itself. But to me, the work ethic has been excellent. The players relate to him. He has credibility. He's got confidence, but he's grown as a coach. You know, he's handled situations well. He understands, you know, we're on the headset.

1:58:12I think that's one of the things too that people don't realize. Like, yeah, the play callers, the play collar, but like in between series, man, we need to get to this. We need to get to this. It's third down. We're going to get to this. He's been on the headset. And he's there saying we got to get to this. We got to do this like sees things makes adjustments in game. But it's going to be it's going to be fun to watch him. You know, manage a group of people now because that's a big that's a big difference. You get all the coaches in there. Now you're the guy who's got the clicker. You got to make the adjustments. You got to challenge those coaches. You got to make the tough decisions on personnel and where we're going schematically. You know, I'm still going to be there, but like, you know, I've really tried to, you know, let him go and run with this thing. And so I'm excited to see when you look at Brian, when he's put his mind to something he's got it done. And I believe he's going to get this one done too. Austin Moore podcast. If I like Billy was a no brainer promotion for you, what made that so so easy? You know, he really, I say this to a lot of the coaches when you walk in the building, it's your job to bring value. And I think sometimes some coaches wait to do things. Billy jumped on it right away. He saw this as an opportunity and he took it and ran because of the opportunity that these coaches have not a coach in the field, which they didn't have in the past.

1:59:25Spend one on one time in meetings. He took that and ran and which chip being the office coordinator. You know, he quickly, you know, became a quarterback coach really last year. And the good thing for Billy is he was here before. So he knows how we want to coach things. He knows how we teach things. He understands the progressions. He sees it the way that we see it. So him walking in the building. That was, he was a step ahead that way. He's very smart. He works really, really hard at it. He's got a really bright future in the game. And I think the guys in the room know him. And so it was just, it was easy. And, you know, for me, it was, it was good because we see, we see things the same way. And I believe that, you know, I can walk out of the room and what, what we want to get taught is going to get done. Now, the, you know, another great evaluation this spring. But I saw it last year. I saw the work he did and he's very, very talented. Joey Kaufman, what is this? Ryan, the, with the makeup of the offensive staff being as young as it is. There have been past years. We've had something like Chid Laastur, Tim. Well, just wondering what kind of impact you think having much younger staff has.

2:00:28I think it comes down to experience. And now when you start looking at what, you know, Brian's not been here for a while and you look at, you know, Tyler's coach a lot of football and, you know, lock and, you know, you know, you can keep him now. He's getting a little bit older. You know, these guys now now are more experienced than, than they, they didn't have passed. And again, I'm still going to be there. But I think it, ultimately, evaluated based on, you know, what you see. And, you know, these guys just want a national championship here. You know, and a lot of coaches haven't done that. So they've seen it. They know it. And so, you know, I think that, you know, it comes down to your worth. It comes down to, you know, what you've done. And I got a chance to see it on a day to day basis. And I think these guys are excellent. And I have a lot of memories. King for the North Ryan. In hiring, MatPatricia, he had a sexual assault indictment in his past that did not go to trial. And was later dismissed. What was the discussion with Matt around that? And what kind of vetting process did Ohio State go through? Yeah. So, you know, as you, as you know, you know, when we make these decisions, you know, we, we spend a lot of time.

2:01:35in the interviewing process and getting to know people. And we always take everything into consideration. And that situation in particular, ask a lot of questions, vetted it. Ross Bjork was part of those conversations and feel really good about the hire. And our program, as you know, has got great values and standards of how we handle ourselves, which you get to see on a day-to-day basis, and that's not gonna change. Bill Rebellion's Columbus Dispash. Yeah. I know you were not gonna name any kind of frontrunner for the quarterback job, but people have rigged about the way Julian throws the ball. Seems to have all that ability. Seems to be kind of a low key guy. How much do you wanna see the fire in him? And that was one of the biggest qualities. Is that almost more the bigger challenge for him than the football star? I think all three of them, it's that way. For sure. Yeah, I mean, that being a leader

2:02:38and showing that toughness and showing that fire and showing that grit is, you know, willed in a great job with that. So we're coming off the heels of that. So again, these guys got a chance to see that, but yeah, I agree with you. I think that that's the biggest challenge. And that's, Mick does a great job of really fostering that behavior, enforcing those guys in a leadership role. Get them in front of the team and speak. You gotta get going. And that takes reps. So the first few times it might be a little clunky, it may not be very good, but the more you do it, the more confidence you have and the more you get to find your voice. And that'll be important for the quarterback as you know here. We got to have two more questions. Bill Landis, games of the North. Right, when you have a coordinator like Matt who has a lot of success on the same side of the balls that had coached with Bill Bellagic. How do you evaluate that and try to discern that coordinator's impact as opposed to just being in a very good situation at succeed? Yeah, and you know, like, you know, with Doug's quite, like the amount of time we spend vetting all those types of things to find out exactly what's going on and the history behind it all is, you know,

2:03:39you call the guys that he worked with, you know, and I think that's a great question. And that was, you know, honestly, one of my questions, you know, what did it look like? And so, you know, you ask guys who were actually in the building, you know, Nate Evans, one of them, you know, you ask coaches that he coached with. I won't get into the names of the people you call, but you gotta make a lot of calls to find out, you know, about people. And, you know, what you found out was, you know, I mean, he was running the defense. Now, certainly Coach had a, you know, a big hand in that. And, but as time went on there, you know, it was his show and there was certain a lot of collaboration there, but, you know, he's very, very intelligent, really knows defense of football and the guys who played for him, you know, really felt like they were getting better because of the way that he taught football fundamentally. And I think even our guys in the building now, in a short period of time, it's making a lot of sense to how he teaches the game. So, all those things were part of the evaluation and the making a decision. Jeff Gilbert, press pros.

2:04:40Coach, a year ago, all the talk was national championship with everything you had in place. This year's different. Do you, that a discussion still is that too much pressure of this group? How do you handle expectations with this team? And as you often say, you're not allowed to lose here. Yeah, yeah, no, it doesn't change. Our expectations don't change. But, you know, I think whether it was last year, the year before this year, I mean, none of that stuff's ever gonna change. And so, you know, we're gonna go. But I do think coming off a last year, you get a chance to learn about your team, you get a chance to grow with your team. But, yeah, I mean, I think it's what, 176 days or something until we play Texas. I mean, it's, it's commons around a corner, 173 I think maybe. I mean, it's coming and we gotta be ready to go with this team and this group. That's just the way it goes. And, you know, we wanna continue to stack these years. And I gotta be playing our best football at the end of the season. But, yeah, I mean, that's not gonna change.

2:05:41And, you know, I think last year with everybody coming back and, you know, some of the additions that we made, it sort of created a lot of attention nationally. And that was what it was. But ultimately, that shouldn't have affected how we went about our work. That's just stuff on the outside. And, you know, whatever they're gonna say about this team should affect how we go to work each day and how we start our first game. Go, thank you very much. All right, thanks. And folks, we'll migrate out onto the indoor. You should just, I think we're, you know, guys, they're actually up there, right? Go down, down, down. And, you know, they're up there, go down, down, down, down. They're up there, go down. You wanna be sure, you know, like I felt on my way here, you know, I feel so familiar through this. I don't know exactly. I'm just completely, I'm just keeping whole life in there because theolfine got it on your mind. You know, I think this is, you know, just by, well, the upper part of the scene,

2:06:42the last fight, the point ofib PTSD is time to publicize adult life. Tell your staff about the cuts that your eyes used to fix and why I said like that just not killing your assistants is good, still in the film so everything is slowed down for me right now. But that's really just most of how I've been playing here. How do you like to study at ARGO? Try to be what has that been to you? It's kind of up in transition. Kind of settled down here. Just like Coach Learn, I was able to play here at Ohio State before, especially at the lineback position. They know what to do and they know everything that it takes. So just looking up to them doing what they do, it's definitely going to be good for me. I mentioned the game speed being a big difference. Is there been a moment that you've been out on the track and still there in the way or whatever they've been going? Oh, kind of took my spot. Not really, just everything right now, right now. I was just moving pretty fast from, but I know it's going to slow down pretty soon here. Here at Mike right now? Yes, there are Mike. How difficult is there to, how much more is that for you as a true freshman?

2:07:46First spring also, you're the middle linebacker. It's just a responsibility getting everybody lined up, getting the call, but knowing my assignment, I didn't know how it's going to go, but it's just like up to you. A little bit more. So it's going to take some getting used to, but I know I'm really... How much do you think that's going to help you in the fall? What? Being Mike. I think it's going to be good, being able to roam around and just taking charge. I'm definitely used to that and comfortable with that. So I feel like it's going to be good for me in the fall. Does it help you learn a defensive scheme faster to have that much responsibility? Yeah, for sure. Knowing what everybody's doing and everybody's responsibility is getting the hell we play better. What's the typical day like for a true freshman middle linebacker trying to learn the defense off the practice field? Off the practice field. Just waking up and getting here early, probably watching the film. We got practice or weight, so we're not getting through that.

2:08:46We got meetings, so more the game knowledge. We got an individual meeting, so just learning that more. And then after that, after that, we got class and stuff. So after class, we definitely got to stay on the film some more. What film are you watching? What do you watch? Oh, practice film. Practice film. Like your film? Yeah, knowing what I did wrong, what I could improve on and learn new installs. All of your tricks physically since it's a role. I definitely got a little bit stronger for sure. Speed, speed, a little bit faster. You came in at what and you are at what now as far as weight? I came in at two and a half, two and a half. What's the target weight? You have a certain technical you're trying to get to. Right now, two, three, two, three. Doesn't take me long day to get to you guys where you want to be, right? What do you expectations for your freshman? Every time you get to get to talk to James Lornais, he has a nice sense of say about you. What do your expectations for your first two? I'm just getting on a field and making plays. I feel like that's a good, a good expectation for me.

2:09:46I just want to get out there and make plays. Describe your game. It's a long backer. I think, I think I can do a little bit of everything I can cover, I can rest past it. I can play to run to. I think, I think those are all my strengths. I think my screenplay is faster. I think I think I can do anything. When that's usual, big Texas flavor on this team, a lot of Texas guys, it's been like here for the last 10 years. That's got to make you feel kind of at home. Talk more about that if you would. Just Texas guys, football is really big in Texas. So with that, Texas is how I pipeline. I'm knowing I got guys from Texas. I love it. You'll stay through the pre-pro. I'm the goal line. You open up with a long horse, start your career. Thank you Peter. A little extra gas in the tank. What is it just inspired you to see what Cody Simon was able to do here last year, not only as a player, but as a leader?

2:10:49That's definitely something I look forward to becoming and being able to do those things. That Cody did, Cody did, the way he played, all the plays he made. I feel like that's a good, good aim for me. What's kind of example of sunny setting for a group right now? Sunny, his position, his switch from safety to linebacker. I feel like the way that he played last year, being his first year at linebacker, I feel like if he could do it, I could do it. So that's definitely good example. Do you have a lot of experience playing safety? Yes, I'm really seeing that. I'm fresh from here. There's a lot of motivational factors.

2:11:51Obviously you want to win this, you want to win a national championship, but how do you keep that same kind of edge mentally that you had in that Tennessee game to give that kind of offensive performance? That's the challenge, man, is keeping that edge. I think we play well when we have that underdog chip on our shoulder mentality. That's what we came out with last game. That's the challenge, how do we not listen to any of the good stuff right now? The same people that are patting us on the back were beating us down two weeks ago. You just got to remember that and remember not to eat any of the sugar and just keep our heads down and keep grinding and keep having that same edge and that same mentality. It really starts with how we practice, I think. Not more. What kind of helmet? What you share in my eyes is bracketed. Chip talking about the fact that's really, you really want to take advantage of that. That's not like a play calling thing. That's really you. So when you see, hey, we've got a couple guys over there. What's that view for what you see on the rest of the field and what you're receiving in the process? Yeah, anytime, you know, a defense has to put two guys over one.

2:12:53I mean, it's either creating matchups elsewhere or giving you numbers in the box. Whatever it is, you got to be able to work with it and see it. And I wouldn't be surprised if people are going to start bracketing number four. I'd probably do it too. But you got it. You can't forget about 17 and two and 88. I mean, shoot, we got guys elsewhere. So it's, you know, if you try to take one of them out of the equation, and we got, we got other dudes that are going to step in and make plays too. So, I mean, and that's the thing. I mean, you can double them and he's, he'll still go and make some plays. So, you know, that's all part of the chess game. And like I said, you know, playing a team twice becomes even more of that, you know, back and forth chess game. How are we going to scheme them up and vice versa? But, you know, at the end of the day, it all comes down to execution and finding the matchups where we can and taking advantage of what they give us. David DeGouge, my WCMA. Well, you talk a lot about momentum in the playoffs.

2:13:53So what kind of an advantage does that give for a team like yours against a team that hasn't played since the big time challenge? Yeah, you know, I can't speak for them because, you know, they obviously have had a little more time off. But, you know, in terms of us, I think playing that first game did give us a little bit of momentum and feeling good going into this next game. You know, if I was coming off of four weeks of rest, I don't know, it'd be a little, little weird coming out here and playing the first game. But, you know, we said we wanted to get that first one and then get this ball rolling from there and, and keep this thing going. And, you know, I think I can't speak for them, I don't know, but we feel good, you know, about where we're at. Have a new, like I have them? Yeah, well, is Jeremiah always open because Jeremiah thinks Jeremiah is always open? Yes, he is pretty much, you know, they got to put like three or four guys over him for him to not be open. Yes, he's unbelievable. Man, he makes some pretty crazy plays and can do some great things off the line of scrimmage.

2:14:54And then, you know, when the ball's in the air, he goes and gets that thing. So, I mean, he's special. Awesome award, the podcast. Well, this isn't specific to the last play in New York in game, but when you're talking about rematch in a second shot, how many times do you think you watched the duration of the first matchup as you're doing a film preparation? Maybe that was two weeks after the game as well with the off-week, but also now, time to prepare for Wednesday. Yeah, more times than I can count, man. We got the game planned in the facility here, so nobody's forgot about it. You know, I watched it quite a few times that by week afterwards, you know, what, you know, how could I fix it? And then, you know, at the same time, you want to flush it and get away from it, but now, you know, that they're back, you know, they're the squad we're playing. It's like, you know, I have watched it and it hurts me because I'm like, man, like, there were so many opportunities for us to win that game. And, you know, looking back at it, it's like, man, we just didn't play our best ball that day.

2:15:56And, you know, it just makes you excited, you know, because we got another chance at it. And, like I said, you don't get a lot of second chances in life. And, God's blessed us with one. And, you know, so we got to make sure we take advantage of it. And it's a hell of a team, man. I mean, Oregon's a great team. They do some really good stuff, man. And, you know, it's not going to be easy, you know, but we got to go in there and, you know, do our thing and, you know, take what they give us and impose our will because that's the only way we can do it from here on out. They played six hundred games, incident. So they probably, James, the personnel is going to be different. First back out there. What's the balance for you, preferably where you can watch yourself against them or the other systems that they played since then. What's the, what's the great equation breaking that down? I don't know if I have that answer. You know, I, when I'm watching film, I'm watching a bunch of different film. And, you know, our, our game is one of the games they played. So I'm going to be watching that a bunch and then also watching the other games they played because, you know, it's, they have changed a little bit and we've changed a little bit.

2:17:02And, you know, nobody's just going to stay the same every, every, you know, every, every week. You're upgrading. You're trying to become a new version of your team. So we got to, you know, evaluate where we're at, where they're at and see what the best method of trying to figure that out is. We got time for a couple of calls from the worldwide web to the blue cash, we'll go to organ writer James Craig. Yeah, James. Well, you were certainly quite effective passing against them. What does make their corners effective though? They're both five foot ten. That's relatively small compared to your receivers. What, what makes them pretty effective a corner? I think they're, they're very athletic and they, you know, they're not as, as physical as some of the other corners we played against. You know, they're not trying to like put their hands on you at the line, but they're very good shadow guys. And they're, you know, they stay with, they stay with guys and they stay over top of, of dudes and they don't like to, you know, get beat over the top. And I, I don't think they get beat very often.

2:18:02You know, obviously they're going against their, their playmakers every day, which, you know, they got some, they got some fast dudes over there. You know, I think, I think they're both great players. I think seven's, you know, I played against him when he was at Oklahoma State. I think he's a, he's a good player. He's solid. They're both, they're both solid players, but, you know, I think, I think we got, we got an advantage physically a little bit that we need to, need to take advantage of and make sure that we don't let them just, you know, stick all over us. And, you know, I'm not worried about that, but, you know, they got good players and we're going to have to show up and win our one on once. Let's go to Cameron T. Robinson from the athletic. Hey, well, I think it was a little earlier in the press where you said that obviously you guys have changed. You guys are a different team, but for you, how are you different from that, from since since that, since that, or again? Yeah, I think, you know, you try to evolve every, every week and you try to learn from the, from the good things and from the bad things. And, you know, I don't know if I could say, you know, one, one thing about, you know, where I've gotten better at, you know, what I've gotten better at, maybe, you know, my completions, you know, just trying to take, take with the defense gives me, trying to get, get smarter with that with my decision making as the years gone on.

2:19:18And just get more comfortable in the system, I think is, is another part of it. You know, I don't think there's one thing I can necessarily put my finger on, but, you know, just trying to learn from, from the good and from the bad and, and, you know, evolve in every single week. We have one more Zoom call, go read, associate, press. Well, what's a bent like having Chip Kelly is your offensive coordinator and just how is a relationship developed and maybe improved during the year? It's been really good, man. He's a super bright guy, run game, past game. I mean, he's coached, you know, some of the, some of the best players that I've, you know, grew up watching. And, you know, I think just getting to work with him and just getting to be on the same page with him about a lot of things. You know, the more that this year has gone on, we've kind of just, you know, I feel like we're in sync right now, pretty, pretty damn well. You know, we both kind of see things the same way sometimes, but then we were able to, you know, have that healthy discussion of, you know, what, you know, what, what do you like here? What do you not like here?

2:20:23You know, I think our relationship has just gotten better and better as the year has gone on. I've thoroughly enjoyed my time with him and working with him. I think, you know, we've, we've had a good time with it and we want to finish this thing the right way. Is there a quarterback that he coached it? I mean, you liked or took after? Oh, I mean, I wouldn't say necessarily one of them, but, you know, I did grow up, you know, when I was an Eagles fan and he was the coach of the Eagles. So, you know, I've seen him what, you know, he's brought up clips in the, in the quarterback room of, you know, some of the Eagles stuff. So that was pretty cool. I don't think there's, I wouldn't say there's one quarterback. I emulate my game after necessarily, but, you know, yeah, it's, it was cool kind of the first time and I was like, oh, damn, you know, coach the Eagles back into this. Pretty cool. That time for just a couple more questions. Do you even mean to play with that kind of thing? Maybe I'm making too much of this, but I think I'll Jeremiah's second touchdown. I think before the snap, you like looked over there a couple of times. I don't know. Can you just walk us through what you were seeing? And did that play just ultimately turn into, oh my God, he's one on one cover with one safe camera throwing it up.

2:21:30Yeah, so on that play, I'm looking at where the safety is. And if the safety gets over top of them, I'm not going to throw it to him. If he's not over top of them, I'm going to throw it to him. He didn't get over top. So I was just making sure that they were crazy enough to leave him one on one and they were. And by the way, the bill has been a little bit. That kind of along those lines. I mean, when you see him in man's cup, what I want is it almost like automatic. I'm throwing to him. It's an easy position. If we got it called, yeah, yes, pretty much. I mean, there's quite a few routes where, you know, if it's an ex-isolation or a one on one concept. And, you know, if we have one on one with him or really, you know, you leave any of our receivers one on one and it's pretty hard to guard. I mean, that was a very talented receiver, Carnell, and Brandon. But Jeremiah just seems like out of different levels. And anybody, especially if it's Frenchman, I mean. Do you guys have that appreciation like, oh man, this guy is special when he's a Frenchman? Yeah, I mean, I think you forget about it a lot. You know, when you're around it every single day, you kind of forget that the kids was in high school a year ago.

2:22:35You know, he just doesn't, you just around him. You don't feel like he's a high school kid. You don't feel like he's an 18 year old, 19 year old. Like he's, he's just mature beyond his years. And yeah, he's special, man. He's different. I've never seen a kid his age. I've really never seen anyone be able to do some of the stuff that he's able to do. So, you know, I've only been here for, you know, 12 months or whatever. But yeah, he can do some, some pretty unbelievable stuff. Well, thank you very much. Thank you guys. Go, Bucks. I feel like when you get here, it's just, it's a whole lot of level. Um, he's going to keep coaching well. He's going to be hard on you. He's going to tell you what you're doing. Guy, he's going to tell you what you're doing wrong. And, um, you're just going to push it to be your best. Kind of roll. They have to move it all over. Yeah, it's moving all over. Yes, sir. What was it like for you to get to be here and see, you know, this team win an national championship in the first few weeks on campus? It was crazy. I feel like I knew that they were going to do it from the beginning of the season. I feel like they always had the potential. And then they came out here that did it. And the freshmen, we had an opportunity to sit there and watch it.

2:23:40So I feel like now we just got to do it again. What did you learn from that? Just it's all hard work. And it's just a bunch of guys. And it's really a brotherhood. And it's really just our family versus their family. And we just got to persevere and we got to win the games and get back to the net. I was talking like the, what's our line was saying that Park Allen brand and the really good leaders and the wrong self. For sure. What if how have they both been leaders for you and the every young people? They've been leaders just in multiple ways, whether our column, we're in their in the film room together on the jugs. I'm asking them about this route. How I could run it better. I'm asking them how I run this route on this plate. Just many different things. I feel like those guys, they're like big brothers and all that does help me. A valuable is that to have guys that are playing like a ballman also been a college for a while. I'm asking them various things about college life. I value. It's real valuable for sure because they're they're first round pit guys. So I feel like just being in a room with those guys. And if you're able to thrive with those guys, you know, some's going good for you.

2:24:41What are your impressions that you brought back to you specifically? I'm a pressure company. What have you kind of known about him and what about him? I had a, I always had a good relationship with Tavian. He recruited me hard to come here. So I feel like we always talked and he came here and he's been doing this thing that I've all been doing their thing. And Julian saying he's another Cali Kassel. I had a little relationship with him too. So good to see Julian, Lincoln and Tavian all doing real good. What is that next step for you? What do you want to get better at? It's really just everything. I feel like you can never be too perfect. And I feel like you just got to keep doing your job. So I say maybe just just showing up more and just doing my job to the T. Going against these corners of these TVs. How does that kind of make you better? In high school, I had a five star corner DJ DJ on Lee. He's at Alabama. So I always had good work with corners. So I feel like it's just a lot.

2:25:43I'm going against a lot of good guys now. Instead of just being one on one that practice with DJ. So it's real good for sure. Does it take more courage to play with slot? Say it again, please. Does it take more courage to play with slot? What do you mean by that? Because there's more stuff. But they think there's bigger injuries inside. You have to have a thing. You've got to be aware of it. But it doesn't take more courage to do that. I guess you can say that I feel like I've just always played slot enough. I feel like that's what I've been better at. So I feel like I feel like it's just what I have to do to be on the salt. No matter who's in front of me, how big he is, how strong he is, I feel like if I got an assignment, I've got to do it. I think that the mindset for me, as always, has been that when I win my one-on-one, the ball goes down the field.

2:26:44You know what I mean? So, and I think that's what I'm most excited about just being a left tackle is that, especially with the protections that are a little bit longer plays where the left tackle tends to be one-on-one or the plays I tend to love the most because kind of halfway through the play, you're locking them up and just know that he can't go anywhere. Start to smile, but you're like, oh, dude, ball's gone. You know what I mean? Like, ball's gone and it's going to be a touch that's going to be a huge gain. So I think for me, that's kind of the mindset you have to have to have the left tackle spots that, as soon as I win my rep, we're going down the field. So that's just the mindset I have in terms of how well I have to prepare. How did you go on that mindset where the people able to get there? Honestly, I'll say that mindset kind of came from college. Again, obviously I played with a lot of great guys in college. You know, I'm glad we have all of those guys here. You know what I mean? To throw the ball to as well, just because against one of those things, like with CJ, you just, again, a left tackle, my mindset was just, well, that CJ just do his thing and that's my thing.

2:27:54I'm not going to be able to do his thing. Don't worry about whoever's over here, just do your thing. That's why you're here and just throw it to Marvin. And, you know, it will be good. You know what I mean? So that's something excited about. And I think all that starts because of what we do on the line. So I think just not just myself, but the entire room takes pride in. Hey, like when we do our job upfront, that's where everything else goes. So let these guys we have with the ball in their hands do all that magic. We just got to do our job just to entertain it when you're one on one, you know. You're doing well in a, just playing that spot means something special just because of the history of that position. And, you know, just of all the greats that have played left tackle, I mean, do you ever think about just the past and the, you know, the people, the players before you who were in that spot and did great things? Yeah, I mean, again, I feel like just from, just as a young guy in a game, I, of course, try to, I like to watch the, the greats the game.

2:28:54I like to watch guys like a weight worth, of course, you know, a willy Anderson, you know, he played on the right side, but again, I think continuing to watch the greats that played the game just can take the dominate for those guys from me to be able to talk to them again to be able to learn from their story and their journey and how they developed. Of course, I understand I want to create a, I want my game to be able to be like theirs in a way to where it's talked about in a way of like that's a guy you need to watch just to watch with, you know, the fight that you played with, the finish that you played with, the technique you played with, because those guys played almost 20 years, you know what I mean. So, and again, I think that's something when you watch the guys, though, the legendary guys come before, yeah, you know, they're strong and they're tough guys, but, you know, I don't know, but when you're like 36, 37 years old, you probably not that strong. Not as strong as you used to, but that technique and just the skill set, that's something that I admire.

2:29:54You mentioned earlier about the guys going out to UCLA and kind of getting out of the heat. I'm curious, when you're working out here, do you do anything outside or do you avoid it altogether right now? I don't know, I'm always outside. I'm always outside. I don't mind the heat. I love the heat. And honestly, for me, it helps. I'm off like 30, 20, so I kind of warm up quickly. So, it's kind of nice for my warm up. I don't have to be doing like 30 minute warm up. You know, you kind of just be outside long enough, collect this. And your joints are on go. So, I actually, I like it a lot. Going back to the players that have been in the league for a while, Calvin Beachham is one of those guys that's been in the league for a decade plus. What have you been able to learn from him? I think, again, just learning how to be a pro in terms of certain things. Like, for example, I'm a guy that when I like to train by myself, I'll just take a thousand reps of a set, a thousand reps of a reach block. I'm a rep, rep, rep, rep and type, I've done a hundred times and I wrote perfect.

2:30:56And some of that beach is like talking about in terms of being a pro and I thought to me, that's me being a pro is a young guy. I think I've a lot of reps in my body. So, I'm going to take a lot of reps and preparation. But Beach is a guy where it's like, it's not about necessarily the quantity in terms of its really through the quality. But even more so, you know, you're off season, you don't got to be doing something like this every single day. But when you do it, like, from your first rep, even your first rep is not like here, I'm taking this rep, oh, it wasn't good. Because it's going to be better on the second one, like, each rep, even when you're by yourself, is just kind of, I guess a mindset, I just give yourself 15 reps instead of doing 60 reps. And this sounds like a huge difference, but to me, I don't mind taking 60 reps from by myself and there's nobody that's waiting around on me. And I'm by myself, I can take my time and I'll do that. It's just being like, I'm going to do 15 perfect reps and I'm just going to slow down and take all my time, stuff like that. That way your body, that way you're not doing too much before camp, you know.

2:32:02Many of the guys that left guard in the mix were here last year, except for Evan. How does that relationship develop throughout other real-life seasons? Yeah, I mean, so honestly, I like that. That's my guy. We like to compete. We've been competing in the weight room since day one in terms of just like what we consider like athletic competitions. So like, even in the weight room, I'm at the very end of the week when we're done lifting. I'll talk to Evan and I'll be at a non-understander. We'll just do some sort of competition, whether it's grip or whether it's jump or where it's pull-ups or something. And I don't let him leave until I beat him in all these two things. So if we do a jump thing, and like I always thought was the best kind of, I had the most height when I jumped out of a line, I could dominate anybody and that, but he beat me in that. And I was surprised and surprised, and we're hopping on the bike. And then we did this bike thing, I beat him on a bike and we're now going to pull-ups. So I beat him on a personal kid and I'll be going to leave. But we just have that, and we're always just competing. And then again, obviously he wasn't on the team with us last year.

2:33:06I think what he brings at the table with being a vet is that he's like a plug and play guy. He knows he's been in those scenarios before. He's played with guys like Penae when he was with Detroit. So obviously he's just being able to talk to him and how this is how it was when I was setting with Penae. This is how it was. I was able to see all these are the different things that I can do that made some things like in your game how you set. And I'll talk to him about what I like to do in certain scenarios and how his set can sort of match that. Does that make sense? So I think he adds a lot. What's the longest you've stayed after until you beat him? To the point where a strength coach is like, you guys got to go. You guys should go. We're not trying to break any rules around here. But it's just me and him just going, and he loves it. So and even us starting to do that we started to get other guys in the O line that tried to hop in on our competition for fun.

2:34:07But only matters what be Evan. It's just I'm just beating you. So it's fun. So it's a lot of people that are special in this field of mean. So considering that everybody kind of made that decision obviously with the talent you have, it feels like there's a little bit of buy in there with that. Yeah, I think this is probably the biggest year. This is better than not year. And even though having a great year last year is just that the buy in is just it's unimaginable how good that we want to be. Like we want this back. And I think all of us coming together and all of us coming back this year. It's just it's a group understanding that we want to come and we're handling business. There's nothing more than just business. Statistically, I mean, you look, I think you guys are going to have 20 points last year. There's not a lot statistically to do to get better. So where improvements can you guys make to really kind of get to that level?

2:35:11I think the improvements we need to do and then playing good throughout the year. But when the big games come, we got to play. I mean, that's the way it has to be the best. We can't rely on anyone else. It has to be the defense that really runs the show. Have time, have the offense. Got to carry them all back and have them do the day. I don't know how to worry about us. Let no points or anything like that. So definitely big games. We have to come. Yeah, it definitely feels like a big difference. We just got a lot of guys. We got a lot of good special talent. And you know, you just got to find a way to get these guys on the field. And it's just having a lot of new guys. We got to definitely bring them in and definitely find like it's find a gel with them. Get a chemistry with them. It's just really defense close to them. We were last year and that's one of our main goals. He's just a worker. He's been working for as long as he's been here. And he's just, you know, keep trying to find ways to get better every single day.

2:36:13And I just wanted to think he's out of ploddle for. He's very passionate. He's very passionate about getting this back. You know, he just, he has in his heart. And being being a kid from a house, just like me is just having a passion for one to win. Like you're playing for the Ohio State University. You want to win. You don't want to have to, have to settle for anything less. What do you see for them in the second half of the last season? He really seems like things really put for him down the stretch in that Minnesota game. Yeah. It's Michigan and Missouri. Oh, yeah. I think it just, I mean, he just had to be bought in. I mean, as a unit together, we just wanted to do better. We wanted to be better every single game. And I feel like he just understood that. And every time he went in, he just knew that we were playing for each other. So he went out there and he played. He stopped thinking, stopped thinking less than just going. And he just played and the play showed out for him. And the card is a player to, I guess, get to that place where the game comes natural. You're not thinking so much. Oh, yeah. I think it definitely comes with experience. I mean, usually players play better towards the end of the season because they have more experience than being out there.

2:37:18So when you play more, usually no more what's going to happen. So let's say it would be easier to be out there rather than thinking at most of the time. Thank you. I'll just ask, settle how, guys, just what does this mean? I mean, you're here in third or fourth year. What does it mean for you to take pride in what school you're in? Oh, this is a special feeling to me. And it feels like I have like the whole city on the back on my back. Just being able to be out here and just, it's a blessing to be playing for the Ohio State University. So I mean, why the cherish every single day just treat like my last. The third year in their coach, those guys feel like you got the defense internalized and know every fit of what you need to know, I guess. Yeah, I think the being the third year, I mean, as defense is just like right now, it's just fine tune a little things. I mean, everything we're stuck, we're very, we're very glue. We're glue with everyone with all the plays and stuff like that. So we just fine tune a little things that we can get better at and pretty much just bringing in with anything new that we have.

2:38:19Just bring it in and really bring it together. So I think we're good. People look at you and Tileek is the main guys inside, but you're some of the other guys that really start to come on. They could go to be giving you guys some extra playing time to guess this year. I think a lot of a lot of guys are really pushing forward to bring playing a lot of interior guys like hero. Kay McDonald, guys like that will some of all the guys back there, they're really pushing it to play. I mean, anybody in a defense line could play right now. I feel like us together as a union and make each other better every single day. That's what's going to make everyone because we're trying to get this year to everybody to play. Everybody needs to play. Good. Thanks a lot. Hey, well, you know, one last thing is first of all, just, you know, what, what do you feel like you can do this year as a fit your guy to take your game in the next level? Right now, it means just stepping into a fifth year, being here a while. It's a leadership role. I feel like being a leader in here, I really have to push the younger guys and really have to step up for the mean.

2:39:21I've been here a long time, so I feel like really elevating the guys to below me and really making them better. If I, they can play just as good as I can play, then we're going to be on top of them. How does it help you play with confidence when you have so many veterans around you guys that you've played with so much? It helps us because it just has the chemistry thing. So it's being together for so long, being in the system for so long. It's like natural. So we go out there, we don't have to think too much, we just go out there and play because we know we got each other. For you, was it an easy decision to come back for another year, or did you have to think about it? Definitely had to think about it a little bit, but I think all of us coming back, we all had to understand that we still have something here. We need to finish this unfinished vision that we need to take care of. What are the biggest things that you feel like you can do this year to help yourself get to that next longer? Definitely think just playing harder, just having more experience to be out there playing the game, and being out there more, just refining my technique and stuff like that, just being to be out there and make more place. Just being in the right position at the right time. Does a defensive line in the hole like what do you guys have specific goals for yourself this year? How you think you can get better as a unit?

2:40:26Right now, we don't have specific goals. Right now, like I said, we're working on technique, we're working on the little things, because little things are in a big thing. Right now, we're just trying to get the small, fine detail refining because we're going to go out there and we're going to need those when you get in the game. You mentioned your leadership. How have you seen the depth behind you start to develop this rank? Definitely coming together. There's a lot of guys, there's a lot of guys really growing up and so they're really pushing the ranks right now. As I said, anyone can play. I mean just the way they work every single day, any guy could come in and play in a position. Is there anyone who's really jumping out to you so far with spring? I mean all the guys are jumping out. We've only been two practices so far, but I think all the guys are really working. It's like a group unit that everybody is pushing hard. Thanks, Ty. Thanks, Ty. You're welcome. I don't know where Jay ran off to, but I'll leave you for the next. I'm sure. You have, you know, Nathan and Caleb, they both played both positions in your defense in their college careers.

2:41:27Does it really matter and what you pull those two then, if they can both play both, if you've got Jordan in the slot? Yeah. Is that even, like I don't know. Yeah, you do because you have specific job responsibilities within those, but they become more interchangeable and fluid in how you can function with those pieces. You know, it doesn't, it's not like a true strong or a free safety. You know what I mean? Those guys are able to compliment each other and you have more flexibility within your packaging to put those guys in position and make plays. What have you seen for Jay? He's time. We saw him on Saturday running with the ones with the two. Seems like he's making a little bit of his opportunity with what have you seen for him? Yeah, he's been a guy that's been on the rise. You know, to me from where he was when he started spring ball to where he is now, he's made more plays at practice. His eye discipline is better, his understanding of the defense is better, which allows you to be able to play free and be able to play fast. So that's what I've seen so far and I can, I expect that to continue. What about Jay and we play in how scene you're going to play?

2:42:27He's been great. He's been great. He first off, we do a thing where we track. How well you run to the ball every practice. One of the things that we grade, right? So you can talk about all the schematics that you want coach Noles has all that. But if you're not running to the ball, you're not playing good defense, right? So we track that and he's one of the guys that every single practice is one of our highest grade guys running to the ball. So he's been awesome from an effort standpoint first attitude. He's in early, he puts the work in and he's made a bunch of plays out here. So now I'm excited about Jay on the client for sure. You're talking about running to the ball. Do you mean like he's ball hockey really well in the back end or is it a nose for the football running game or both? Yeah, so we're really tracking effort and how hard a guy's playing from there is what we do. But I would say this too, he's been around the ball a lot, right? With his alley running and he's downing the ball and on a break through run or fitting gaps and things like that. And then he's got really good range in the post for the half to. So he's done a good job of both of those things. I guess all the above.

2:43:27Yeah, I do. I do. It's been an opportunity for you have a couple of guys that are out there. So you're able to continue to grow the depth and be able to see what guys can do. And you have increased reps from that standpoint. So I do feel confident. I feel confident in the guys that, you know, how they've performed so far this spring. And the guys that haven't been out there, I feel confident from what their abilities are, what I've seen on film. And then the mental preparation from that standpoint. Now I would go back to refer to, you know, what late then was like a couple of years ago and taking that same blueprint. Yeah, he's done. I would say the mental side. I would say if you took, he has really good physical skills. You see him when he walks on the field. I mean, he's a, yeah, no doubt. I would say the mental side of the game, right? Really understanding what's the defense, what's my eye progression? Where do I fit into this chess piece? You know, what's my chess piece in this whole match that's happening? And yeah, I've been pleased with him and he's putting the work in to make sure he understands what's going on. I would say we're not saying it's great, right?

2:44:33And because his preparation is so high level, it challenges you as a coach to be an elite teacher, right? Because he's going to be on his game. He's like coaching a professional player, right? He understands the concepts in the game so well. He's put so much time into it. As a coach, you better be matching or equaling that, right? Going above and beyond that because if not, he's going to be a step ahead of the coach, right? So it's been awesome to be able to push each other to make each other better. He's got a great understanding and feel for the game. He's a great young man. The work ethic is really high level. So every value that you would look for, not just for a skill or intangible thing, but who he is as a person. I can't say enough about who Caleb Downs is. It's been awesome. What's the next step for you from waiting, man? You're talking about the preparation that Caleb has. What is the way of coming back from your final? Coming back from injury. What do you want to see from him? Maybe it's leadership. Maybe it's on the field. I don't know. What is it for you? I think leadership is definitely something, right? He's a guy that's been there, done that. He has accomplished a lot, but not the goals that he wants to yet.

2:45:35So I would say from a leadership standpoint, holding guys accountable and he's done that at a really high level. And then his own preparation. I've been impressed with, you know, if you're not taking as many physical reps, what are the mental reps that you're taking? And he's done a really good job of having daily routine, putting the time in, making sure that he's conscious of you with everything. So I would say the off the field stuff is a step in the right direction. What did you take away from your experience last year as a coach for New York? Since we've got talking about you've been through multiple spring practices. What did you learn? Something in your time or the weather? For you as a coach that you brought here to bring the safety of your mission? Yeah. I think that you learn different ways to be able to do things, whether it's taking the ball away or tackling methods, or the way that it's taught from other defensive coaches. So to learn from a different tree and thought process and philosophy. I try to, I pride myself on being a teacher, which means that you better always be learning. You're getting behind. So I would say, yeah, just different ways to be able to maybe do similar techniques

2:46:37or things that have to be done from a defensive principal standpoint. And then bringing that to the table. As you step back and you say, okay, here's how I've always done it. Or I've done it in the gym-null system, right? And then you're in a different defensive system. And how does that get executed? And then you can blend some of those or pick what you like from there. So a chance to reflect that. Did you feel like you accomplished what you wanted to away from the gym-null system to bring it back to the gym-null system? Yeah, I mean, I think any time that you're no matter where you're coaching, right? You have principles of defense and a way to be able to play defense, whether you're how you tackle or how you play the red zone or different things like that. And there's metrics to be able to track that. And some improvement was made. Not enough of my opinion. You only move there were strides from that standpoint. And then, yeah, when you come back into it, you say, okay, the system here has developed in a year that I was gone. Right? And then maybe I'm able to develop a little bit as a coach too. And from a positional coach or a coordinator mindset, things like that. And then you're able to mesh ideas and come back and you learn, hey, what's the new that's happened over a year?

2:47:37And then I was able to see the big 10 from the different lens as well. So I think that's valuable. Man, it's a last question down a few safeties on Saturday. How do you feel about your depth of that position right now? Yeah, it's something that we've addressed and say, hey, here's the guys that have played. Here's the guys that haven't played. Who's taking the reps right now? And how do we grow those guys? You know, from Mass standpoint. So I think that's a work at progress every single day. So I've been pleased with the guys. I think there's been a, um, on the, you know, steadily on the rise approach from everybody in the room. You know, so I've been pleased with the guys in the progress that they've made. Um, so I feel good about it. And I expect that to continue throughout spring and then continue throughout summer and into fall camp. You know, from that standpoint. Yeah. Or some of those guys that may need haven't played much of your, you see it, they're going to move this spring. Yeah. Um, Jayden Bonz was taking advantage of the opportunity that he's had. Jail and McLean's taking an opportunity, you know, advantage the opportunity. Inky had a really good day today. You know, it's taking advantage of the opportunity. So the guys that, you know, are taking reps, you know, I'm pleased with watching those guys, you know, continue to progress, you know, and the Caleb, I think is, you know, learned our system and done really well and got better every day.

2:48:39All right. Thank you. Thanks. Appreciate it, guys. The game, the intensity, you know, I've said a thousand times that he doesn't get incrementally faster or stronger. The game mentally slows down for him so he can use his skill set that way. So what is that we're talking about? He's just going to wait. That's his strength because those numbers are going up. So he can play with more pillar strength. He can play more contact. He can play more comfortable, even though his 40 time didn't go from a 50 to a 48. How have you seen Seth activate himself into that? He just jumped right in. Um, unbelievable job. Both ways of him just coming in with shelving the ego that he had. He really had none and walking in and saying, I'm walking into a room as we told him we recruit him. Like you're coming into a room, a bunch of good dudes. And then our good dudes are good dudes. He came in and there was no, it's like, you're here. Here's how we do. Here's how we operate and let's go. And so that learning curve for all those, whether it's a high school mid-year guy or a veteran mid-year guy, it transfers in, there's a learning curve there.

2:49:43Just, you know, circling back to what we had, natural maturation a little bit because he's been through a little bit of spring boys. He's been through a little bit of camps. So you're still learning the terminology. You're learning a new skill set. But he just dove right in and wanted to be a sponge and wanted to learn. He's doing a good job and he's improving every day. You know, so that's what's making the battle and the competition and all these great snaps really, you know, good for us is because they all have that mindset. So from Seth, awesome. The unit in the group, awesome because there was no combattentance to it. It was, let's get in the school and it's competing and let the guys win. Just, what about Luke said the skill set made you guys work in the building of the car. Just learning the same deal. All the young guys you're coming, you gotta learn how to play in friction. So having, you know, three tech, having a two eye, having those guys like right in front of you. Every time you take one of those reps and you're out of your base or you're in your base, you feel the good, you feel the bad. So being more consistent that way, you know, you can't make moves or shift guys if they're not mentally there. And so for him, he's got a pretty good football FQ.

2:50:45So he's continuing, he's growing every day, he's working and he's getting beat every day too. And he's learning from those, you know, from the spring time. You know, we have a saying in our room, we're like, in the spring, it's yes and it's no. And I know it's KNOW. Why didn't it rip work? What happened? And how do I make sure I don't repeat the same mistake? And so whether he's coming in and watching the tape on his own and then come with questions, he's grabbing me and watching tape with me or we're coming and doing stuff as a unit, he's learning so that same deal the game can slow down and he gets more comfortable there in friction. So I mean, he's, his weights up, his strengths up, he's spending all of his season with Mick. You know, there's a lot of development that still has to be had. Obviously not a finished product, but being able mentally for a guy to handle that, you know, helps a lot. Luke, a leaner guy? Did you tell him that? He paid you to say that? He did not pay me to say that. That might be the first time he ever heard that in his life. No. No. You know, Luke Carson, whoever maybe, that jump of 18 to 19 to 19 to 20 year old kid, that plays a lot into it too.

2:52:01Being in a full year with Mick, I mean, all those guys, you coming at mid, you're like your Devo and Dion and Ian more right now. You're keeping your head above water. That's your whole first year. Now you can actually get and we can sit. So when you sit and talk about a jam combo or a lock or whatever the call may be to Luke, he registers that and I like something new because then there's paralysis by analysis. So I think the middle part on top of another year, natural maturity of getting bigger and stronger, that's always going to help. You're not going to, guys here, they're not going to regress. It's going to keep adding progress and how fast can we get that going? That's what we're working on every day with him. But Josh said that he would have been all guard to this point and Coach Day is mentioning this several times that Josh could play guard too. And you guys are trying to work through that, Friar. Josh could play all five. I mean, he snapped the ball in high school. You know, Josh had a great off season. But for you when you're going to your spring and it's fact-finding and experimentation, how much do you want to put them in different spots or not?

2:53:02Because you also have an eye on August to try and settle on five-man rotation. What's the balance of that for you? You have to get a really good, gradable set so that everybody has numbers of, you know, just like we said before, how many times have we done? A run blocking or pass blocking in this situation so that that all evens out. So that's the, it's not experimentation. It's just making sure that you get a good book of work to look at and grade that. So as we, you know, work guys around the platoons and go just to make sure that everybody gets good, gradable reps so we can sit back by the end of spring and say, all right, this is your comparing apples to apples and oranges oranges. And not, you know, apples to oranges because it's completely different that way. So that's kind of the thought behind that as you go into the spring. When you got here a couple years ago because of that, you were told you, you're still now Chip Kelly is going to be here as an offensive coordinator. What would you say? You know, but then I said, you know, it's college football. So who knows, right? What's up in like, I'm sure you're enjoying it. What's up in like, yeah, I mean, he just added to another piece of just good people here.

2:54:04I mean, you still, you're coming to work here with guys every day, you know, but the kids we talk about a thumb, but then for us as coaches as staff. So adding just another good dude that's in the room. Obviously, as he says something and, you know, he might speak in old terms or terms that we had, you know, maybe be a little bit of a rosetta stone. Like, no, no, this is this. He's like, yeah, that's right. Cause that happens to all coaches that happened to me when we got here. First I was at what coach day sometime with Ryan's like, you know, what do we call this because he was in a system like that before. And he's like, oh, this is this now. So I think just the, you know, translation of a rosetta stone there help, but just overall standpoint of adding a great guy. That's a great coach that's been around that's he's going to supplement the room and every time you add something new to the room, then that makes the room better, makes you individually better. Oh, look how he does that. Maybe I could do that. Maybe I can bring that to my meeting room. Maybe I can bring that to communication to the staff or to the kids or whatever it is because he's. He's done it for a long time and he's done a high level for a long time. So it's good to add that guy to us and then continue as us to rest the staff for me and Brian and key and everybody just learning and growing with that.

2:55:10What does he brings to me? Kind of specifically just I mean, does he from a talent standpoint? Does he see things sometimes? Others don't see. I mean, does he? I mean, what does he kind of brings from the chalkboard aspect of that? Well, I mean, what you're saying? So what does he see? It's good to have fresh eyes come in that maybe you know, you get in a routine and you're getting a rhythm and all of a sudden. What do you think about football? He's one of those guys that I think goes into categories, forgotten a lot of football and some people have learned in their life. But no, I believe he coached every position on the field both sides of the ball through his whole career. So as he looks up and he writes when he's talking about, well, this will linebacker is going to do that. Then he might have coached that at Columbia. Right? Or this is what the three techs going to read on a down block of attack all because he's coached the offensive line and he's been a coordinator for a long time. So just a really good vision of big picture, understanding and you know, the next step and not just being right now. What does this ticker if he had a theme or whatever this spring because I mean, this seems kind of like a make it a break in time for him.

2:56:17The time to step up and step is this point was nobody cares. Nobody cares what struggles you have or whatever you got to go out there and feel to get the job. If you know she think different about tech, what do you see about tech? Yeah, he's competing his butt off. I mean, he's kind of living that way. You know, that's why we have the red line over there when you cross the line, you know, coach, they talks about that here like that it's the game doesn't care. You're off the field. You got to come out and step out and do your job. It doesn't care about anything off the field. Right? That can sound really negative and harsh. But then it also if you just spend your tone like in it, beautiful that the game doesn't care. It doesn't care your skin color, your socioeconomic background, where you've come from. If you just want to do it the right way in the 53 and a third, the game will love you back. You know, so I think it's the approach mentally that guys take that way. So yeah, for Tegrit, he's he's taking that approach like he wants to come in and be a guy. So he's fighting and clawing and scratching every day. So when he makes a mistake, he's trying to correct it when he does it well. He's trying to enhance it.

2:57:22And that's what competitive people do. And that's what he showed up to do. So I that's good that he said that. Or says what's his comment on the field been like as a center? And is that difficult when you're coming into a new offensive line to have that? Or is there something made about the center position? If you've been experienced at it like he has where you kind of have that. I guess command on field over with any offensive line. So I should say it over it. Start over again. You're saying the comfort of center with who now? Yeah, I'm saying like how has his command of the field been and hasn't been difficult, I guess, to adjust for him if he's to have a certain level of on field command. Yeah, I mean, it's a dog command is just great communication getting everybody on the same page. Yes, having a bunch of banked reps helps. But then when you do come into a new offense, just like we talked, you know, chip a little bit earlier. You know, he might have called it yellow and we call it green or something. I don't just make it stuff up, but the transition of that in your head to get going with that. Yeah, the comfort of having a ball in your hand, having a guy. I mean, you talk about that. Accommodation of football. Like play one handed and have, you know, tie leak this far from your face.

2:58:31You better have command of something, you know. So you got to understand the communication and the technique and those things there. I think him coming into a new place, the game's not as fast as it probably would be for a younger guy. But also there's some mistakes there that he can learn from and grow from and the same day. He's, you know, the one thing we're not having concerns with, we're not driving right now is the guys just competing and trying to get better after a mistake or like we said, Tigray, enhancing as they've done some stuff really well. And he's he's adapted to that really well. This spring is the same for Sam and how do you send their own by center version guard? Could they do both? They both have been ripping its center. Yeah. For the competition aspect, could they roll out and play guard? Yeah, probably both of them could. How do you assess that? You just got to give them a bunch of guard reps. But if you send guys out too much that way, then that's not good coaching, you know. So we got a good plan with everybody. Those two guys included as we're moving ahead. But yeah, they've been really working at center position right now both of them.

2:59:37Would you advise to watch our synergy? No, I have it. He obviously came after spring practice next year. How has that seemed like? How has he been this spring? You could have speak to how what the challenge must have been for him last year, from not having spring practice stepping in playing that position here in the experience for back. Yeah, same. He's been here not even a four year yet. So coming in the summer, doing what he did, coming in through the fall. And then now I mean the same with him. Sound like a broken record. I think the game's slowing down for him. Those mistakes that may have showed up are the questions that he had through the fall. And as we got going through the season, those are starting to erase a little bit, which is good. You know, his communication level is just talking more. That's probably the best thing that he's done so far. He's a highly, highly talented guy. We're just developing that skills and discipline and does go into communication. So as he communicates and talks, that's probably the biggest thing I've seen from him, which I think, you know, volume and communication equals confidence.

3:00:39So he's playing much more confident right now. He obviously has talent. He also would have a few plays a game or, you know, the penalty or whatever. Can you see them reduce those? A bunch. Yes. Coach, thank you very much. Hey, sure. Thanks, guys. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. You're my bare fans. Thanks, yes. I understand. All right, folks, we will come back when communication. I think that's about the biggest thing. I mean, you're in a big game, but you gotta be able to, you know, call it out like a pressure might come and stuff like that. So it's a winnest of both. I'm serious. I'm a few hours. Good try is coming to summer. If the start, I have a spring. Is there a level of understanding how the coaches and what he wants for these players and how they have to help better that? Yeah, he wants just 100% after it and just to work hard. Like obviously, like, there's more to it, but those are the things that he wants to do and want to play fast. Play physical. That's the semi. I pick at every day coming out here.

3:01:40It's the best to do. I know. You're all forward on it. You look back and ask me, is it almost like you have all the stuff that was throwing me all the stuff I had to adjust to? I really think that is a great amount of use to do. Definitely, but when I come in here, I knew Coach Fry and staff, they were going to... They were going to definitely like scope me into the player. Like, that I know. Yeah, they scope me into that. Yeah, like they know that like, scope, I mean. Like, scope. Yeah. Like just kind of make me into that type of player. I mean, the development factor from Coach Fry that I've been getting is like, I didn't even... It's like magic almost. So I mean, I'm just kind of keep going with him and keep riding with him. Having his free practice, having his summer all has been on this and how much better do you think you're doing? I guess we'll see. I'm going to keep picking that in. Sure. I'll see you with me. Once my players coach describe you as a big dad. First of all, you're free with that? What do you think they should do? I guess... Yeah, I would say sure, but I mean, I can't really take credit for something like that.

3:02:43You know, the boy like that is the man above, kind of put that in my gym, so. How much is running game changing? New odds, whatever you want to call it with Chip Kelly in charge? What if you noticed his little nuances or stuff? I mean, maybe like little things. I mean, little things add up to big things, right? Yeah, I mean, yeah. Where do you think you guys were lacking at some point last year in certain, some of those matchups? I mean, it was a whole new line, so I mean, like, I know the site came to shoot with each other, but other than that, it was... I mean, those are hard games, nothing's going to be like, for sure, what's going on, you know, you can have some hard times. Did Missouri test y'all about as well as anybody? Just about, yeah. Yeah, they were pretty good. What did you know coming out of there, y'all had to get fixed? To be honest, I felt like we just tried to go out there and just play hard. Like, obviously, you know, number six was a really good player, so we just try to make sure if you can either back through as much as possible, so that's really, we can try to go through.

3:03:45And I think we're going to be a little bit joshy, wouldn't be well when we're talking about those just... Just try to dance a little bit. Yeah, so as a left tackle, like, I feel like you're number one job, make sure nobody gets to the quarterback. And that's something that I try to do, make sure nobody kind of get around me or goes through them or anything. Just keep the quarterback through the other fields a lot more. Yeah, they'll be able to be a well-rounded player, you know, mopping them around and stuff like that. But like, that's probably one of the biggest things, not sure if the quarterback's going to be able to do it. What block did I remember you, how was it essentially something that happened? Yeah, so I mean, we got, I mean, yeah, the maybe deal I mean, throw his twist in and stuff like that, so in the run, no twist, too. So he was kind of like, I guess he just got a really state technically sound, and that's something I'm trying to do. Josh, if you're going to get Mitchell Melt, much this spring and stuff, what stands out about him? Obviously, he came back from a couple of knee injuries and stuff, but what just jumped out at you about him? Yeah, you wouldn't even know he had the two knee injuries. So like the way he rushes, it's so, like, it's his signature rush, like, it's something that you can't, it's probably the hardest person I've had to block here.

3:04:47Yeah, if I'm being honest, like, he's very twitchy, great with his hands, amazing get off, and he has that sneaky power. Like, if you're not really like, setting for it, he'll get you. And everyone gets your take, you know, you came here from San Diego State, your center, the guy's transferred in Seth McLaughlin, whether he starts or not, we'll see, right or no, he's from Alabama. He's an amazing, you have college football teams that are put together anymore. Because he could be a key thing, and what does that just tell you about the game these days? Yeah, I mean, it can go anyway. Seth is a great player. He tells me, you know, stuff that they did differently, I bet, and stuff like that. And I try to take some of like, maybe some advice he has, because he's been in college football for a little longer than me, so. Yeah, he seems like a grown-up, didn't he? Yeah, he comes across it way then. What's the line that you're up to? What's the line that you're up to? What's the line that you're up to? Play fast, play physical. I mean, there's obviously more that we're working on. We're learning like, each other to be honest.

3:05:47I guess the right side is kind of like going a little bit. I mean, not with fire, but like, you know, we have like some people that compete. I mean, we're all competing. I know I am. And stuff like that. We're just trying to play hard and play through. How true most of my crew is, how helpful is spring? How helpful is spring? How is spring? That's the very, the very best thing about it. Yeah, it's very nice, sir, especially when you kind of got a new OC and stuff like that. It's best to kind of get, you know, comfortable with the scheme now. Then maybe like, close to camp, because then like in like a few weeks and you know, you've got week one, so. Good time last year for like, do you know what to lead on to next year? I mean, Don, he's like, dude, I owe Don a lot. Like, he's an amazing player. He gives me like insight on just what it's like Notre Dame. I've never been like more nervous for a game than Notre Dame. I just kind of talked to him and he said, we got it. Keep doing what you do and we got to, we got to open the web. Probably going for a lot of, yeah. Oh yeah, especially.

3:06:47Thank you. Thank you. The, the everything with, you know, people just trying to talk to you saying, you saw the war saw the tackle, commenting on my girlfriend's post of, yeah, and it's all out great things. It's kind of crazy to see, but at the same time, like, understand their passion for us to win. So I get that. Do you think it was bad? I, I didn't think it was some of my standard. I thought I was thinking too much and not playing. And I've deleted my social media. So I got other people who control my social media now. So I don't, I don't do any of that. Any of that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Did it feel like that to you and did it change any of the process in this going into?

3:07:48Yeah. No, I think the conbow was a little different because Matt moved the center. So like it was kind of a new piece to the puzzle, I guess you could say. It was difficult because you're trying to get comfortable and you get comfortable with car center center and then they change it to Matt. But I mean, the cotton bowl was kind of a learning curve for all of us with Matt being at center. Did it, did it, did it, did it, did it, did it, did it feel like it all wiped? You guys said, giving back all those progress you had made over the course of year. Did it, did it add to kind of the chip on the shoulder or what you guys had to prove still coming into the queue? I think the second one you said the chip on the shoulder. Because I mean, the defense locked it down that game and we didn't produce anything. We went back and watched it and we're like, this isn't good enough as we are standards. You can say, is that like a game you watch there? Oh yeah, immediately. Yeah, like for this practice, how to go immediately watch it, break it down, talk to the try, talk to Donnie, all those guys to see what they're seeing, how it could improve on this and stuff like that.

3:08:50What is the feeling of watching it that first time? Rewatching that game? For me, I usually watch myself and then on a whole entire off-and-off time. For me, I didn't like it. I thought it was disgusting for my performance and then for the offense, Ryan, I thought we should have cleaned it up a little bit more than what it was. Did it came like a blur? A little bit? Yeah, I guess you could say that. How many free runners have the more game to make? Yeah, yeah. It was just like, because you're on your guy and it's like, what the hell's going on? What's happening back there? Because you don't have the eyes in your back your head. Hey, of Tegger was just here a minute ago. I was just a picture of Tegger ago. There's a big time off in the blind. Yeah. And he said basically, the approach to this spring, whatever, is nobody cares. Nobody cares. What you're going through, what your challenges might be, etc. Yeah. What have you seen this different about him?

3:09:50I think his approach is approach to coming on the field practicing and not just taking another rep, just going and emphasizing that specific rep. Like, okay, I got to get to my spot and I got a punch. Yeah. That is what's improved so much about it. I like your hat too. I'm a big golfer. Yeah, I know. I work just for you. Did you go there? Yeah, I'm a volunteer at the US. Oh, that's sick. Are you going out to Pinehurst? Oh, yeah. That's sick. I think Grandfield's got like four holes, just like Pinehurst. Yeah. I like going and watching the Memorial too. I'm a big golfer. I love golf. Hey, get back to Tegger though. Yeah. What could he has rise, being in this depth pool here for you guys? I think it could be huge. He steps up and plays and I think Tegger could be a big time player. He just got to get, like he said, taking that approach to the field and being a professional every single day will help him be. The person who's going to be.

3:10:50Yeah, I got this request from somebody else to ask you. Where are your top five foods? Jerry, top five foods. Oh, God. Am I on a diet like in my in football or is it like I'm 40 years old and? No, it's like you can't do you don't give it to him. I think you wanted without gaining any calories. Okay, so. I'm going to go restaurants. I'm not going to go food. I'm going to go number five would probably be waterbigger. Number four would be hardies. Three. Drop three were sitting numbers two. I don't know. I like sitting down. Domino's is number three. Number two is McDonald's and number one's in and out. What about barbecue heaven? A couple of more than king of fairies. Oh, yeah. That one was good too. Yeah, I like that one. I don't know. I guess I'm not a big barbecue guy because I have it so much. We talked about, you know, thinking too much on the field, not just playing. How do you get better? I think just comes with more of watching the game breaking it down in the film room and then on the field when you're playing.

3:11:56You're just constantly going through it and then like, all right, just play. If this happens, I don't care. Just go and go hard. Is there something I guess you could do mentally please now? Just set yourself in that. The next day. Yeah, yeah. There's a lot of things that go through your head. Pre-snap, but at the end of the time it's you versus him and I'm just like, all right, this guy's not going to get there. Let's make sure I have to talk about run game differences. Jim here like. Yeah, what do you see? What do you like? Yeah, he's creative. He's very creative in everything overall as aspect of offense. I can't get too much into detail about that. Yeah. Coach Kelly brings a new perspective and he's a great person and a great human being. Really, really super good coach. All right, Josh. Thank you, buddy. Appreciate it. I'm going to turn around and you come in and just catch on the fly. It's time that takes a lot of time and attention. I'm just thankful for a great coach in staff and a great unit around me.

3:12:57Guys, you're back then starting off with a rock and those guys to cade. I think there's going to be an example for the way they're supposed to attack blocking and being entitled here at Ohio State. And I've been just thankful to be able to have that example. Hey, fellas, what are you waiting at? 2,35,240, what were you waiting for? 2,45. What's it been like? You have to wait for it. Yeah, well, it's been great. He's been good and somebody that's came in, humble and is ready to work. That's been the only words that I have for him. Not a minute, just many words, but he's here to get a peer to work and he's done just that. And I'm just, we got to have... He learned a lot. He learned a lot. He learned a lot. That's kind of his story. Like, I know you guys were working on this. Sorry, tell you this. No guy, anything. But also, that's what he's doing. You guys learned a little bit. You guys learned a little bit. You guys learned a little bit. Yeah, I think essentially that's the culture of our room. It's when you come off the ball violent. We're looking as soon as hard as we can. We'll clean up the details out. And so that's kind of our mindset going into it. And uh... Yeah. You went through your blocking block.

3:13:58How long is it going to be like... To know that you still be receiving or something. You know you're not getting it. You know you're like, you know you're using a block. You're using a block. Like, how hard is it to kind of change the perception before you do it? You know you guys don't pay attention like outside noise. But also, blockers and juice got a lot of attention. Really good blockers. Yeah, I'd say it starts off with like you kind of got to... It starts off with tuning out the outside noise. And what other people have to say about it. And it's really more of a mindset. I kind of look at it as if it's like a drop in a bucket. You know if I got a big bucket, there's no one thing I'm going to do to make this bucket full. It's a daily thing where I put one drop in in a day. And you look back over a year, two years, three years. You look back and you're like, man I've gotten a lot better. So like I said, I'm just very thankful for the unit. The guys that I have around me push me very hard. And I'm just thankful. You mentioned that the development kind of is part of TEDx. What was the book challenging part of you to be developing into the play? Yeah, I'd say definitely the size component.

3:14:58You know, you got to be someone that's, you know, when you got to be big, you got to be strong. You got to be fast. There's a lot of jobs that you have to do. It's a very asking job. You need to buck the big, some of the biggest guys in the field. But also run routes, some of the smallest guys in the field. And so I've been just thankful just to be out here and do exactly that. What was it like to get that shot the other day from the pros counts? Just run routes, catch balls. Oh yeah, show off. Yeah, no, it was a good opportunity. I think some of the big, you know, region behind it was just kind of giving those guys that they were at pro day. We have limited numbers. So just get out there and give those guys a breather. But maybe the opportunity to get to go out there in front of scouts. I think that's a pretty good deal. And you're taking only a quarterbacks to this point. The quarterback battle is going on. What's been your take on Will, for example, getting to know him. And then of course, David. I think the mindset that we have a body around here is ironing, sharpening iron. So that's kind of like, it's not just, you know, one room. Top of bottom, top of this whole team. No matter what position you are, we're here to work.

3:15:58I think we're all here to make each other better. Whether it's in a quarterback room or a tight-knit room, we're running back room. Offends for his defense coach for his coach. It doesn't matter we're all just, you know, iron and sharpening iron. Especially this time of year in Spring Ball. We're not doing too much game planning for next week. And we're really just spending this time to get better. And just build a good foundation for ourselves. It's time to work on room forward. If you've seen Will, Will Howard fitting in more and more is the practice that's gone on. You know everybody and all that kind of thing. I mean, I've always been here for a while. I think it's time to go as no matter where you are. You start to adapt and get used to what we have going on here. So it's good to have... Thanks. Yeah. You're coming in. Thank you. What's it been like? Yeah. Yeah. I just have fun. Learning solutions. Yeah. I'd say when it comes to that, I think it's all the glory to the Lord. And I decided to give my life completely to the Lord a little over a year ago.

3:17:00And that kind of really changed my outlook on the way that I approach football. It's no longer something that I idolize. It's just something that I do. And I think the time of my life where I stopped, you know, compartmentalizing who God was in my life. God was something that I do on Sundays or something that I do in a Bible study. So it went from what I do to who I am. And so now I embody that as who I am. And so some of the fruits of the spirit is peace, patience and kindness. And so those are the kind of things that I've started to embody on this journey. I think it's easy to kind of compartmentalize football away from faith. But ultimately, it's all one. It's all one. So it's giving me a spirit of patience, peace, and joy with the guys around me. And so I'm just unthankful. I'm just unthankful to be here. But being quite honest, I know for a fact I wouldn't be where I'm at right now. And I know I'm outside looking in. You know, I ask like, you know, where are you right now? But I wouldn't be where I'm at right now if it wasn't for my relationship with the Lord. It really came into my life and changed around from the better. G, what did you see from Ben and Christian last year?

3:18:01How did you know that suspension? How do you work with that? Yeah, I think he did a great job. A lot of perseverance. I think that's no matter who you are, we're kind of hearing news like that. You're going to be out for a year, that's hard. No matter where you are. I'm really proud of him because he came up and he came to show up every single day. And he got better. He got better. The easy thing to do in that kind of situation is throwing the towel. Be like, man, forget this. Or I'll get better next year. But it's all the drive-out and one thing I see in every day, he showed up. He got better. And I'm proud of Ben and I'm proud of this unit. Why is it question? I don't know how to answer that question because if you go from one unit to another unit, the moment you trade units, you're no longer in the unit you are initially in. So you're now a tight-end. And so, I mean, to answer that question, I think the time that I went from in the receiver unit

3:19:01to the tight-end unit is the moment I became a tight-end. Kevin Wilson was my coach. Coach Wilson was my coach. Coach Holland was my coach and I was a receiver. It's just different. It's two different roles. I think I'd say to answer that question, the moment that I decided to come to play tight-end is the moment I became a tight-end. And so, now, over the years, I've gotten better at playing in the position. But the moment that I transferred over, I've been a tight-end and I'm excited to be a tight-end. Another position I'd rather play. The buck-ass. Thank you, Gene. Leaders and how we want this offense to look like in some of the ideas that we may have as well. So it's been a really cool transition. You talk about the transitions. You've been a third offense in three years, probably your fourth and sixth years. How do you not build up some barriers? I've got to do this again. I think human nature is always a factor in whatever you do in life.

3:20:08But I think I try to make a conscious choice of coming in with a new year mentality each and every year. And I think it's easy because we've had so many changes. It's been great working with Marcus and Jaden and Jeff. And saying, all of everybody, it's been great working with all the quarterbacks. I just have a mentality of not really being complacent. I try to really focus on the things that I can come back better at this year. And I've been working my butt off to do that. So I think the easy thing, when I was younger, you're like, dang, you just want that consistency. You know what I mean? You want that something you could depend on. But life isn't always like that. So I've been reinvigorated because of just the energy that DQ brings into our building each and every day. And the coaches as well, it's fun competing. You know what I mean? And sometimes I could get lost in the grind. But I think the reason why you make it here at this level is because you fall in love with the competition of it.

3:21:12And I think the competition brings the success because that is really where you end up. And the iron is truly sharp and it's iron. So you know other guys are going to make plays, but you get excited to go in there and know that the next day we're going to go right back after the defense. So for myself, I'm just looking forward to continue to grow with the quarterbacks that we have. I'm in year six now, which is extreme blessing. And one of the leaders in our room, and I just try to take the bull by the horns with that. And so that's really been my focus. And I'm excited for another year. To us, it's looked like you're being more vocal on the sidelines to help young guys. Exactly. Something you decided this offseason or? I think that's been a part of my maturation process as a leader. I've always seen myself as somebody that was a leader by example. But from coaches and other teammates I've had over the years, guys like to hear what I have to say for whatever reason sometimes.

3:22:13And I think the biggest thing where I've tried to figure out where I fit in with my vocal leadership is I never wanted to be like a dictator. I never wanted to tell guys what to do or be a yellow or things like that. When I say something, I wanted to have power, I wanted to have meaning. And I hope the guys would feel the same way if they were to ask them that question. Because I want to see all these guys win, man. It's hard to make it in this league and stay in a career. So anywhere I could help the receivers, the DBs, I'm talking to some alignment. Johnny, who's rehabbing his foot. You know what I mean? Everybody has a role and everybody has a different story and path. And so if I could share what I've been through my testimony to help them or do things that kind of slow down the process, I'm going to try to do that because we need everybody from the rookies to the 10 year vets to make this thing work. More so, I try to speak to what I know and really those honest conversations that I try to have with guys, what they know I'm coming from a good place.

3:23:16I think I'm not the type of guy where I'm just going to talk at them. Like if they see something, I could take a coaching point from Luke McCaffrey. I could take a coaching point from Deami, from Jahan, from Marcus, from anybody. You know, like I think that's what makes you a great player when you can really be coachable from anybody and not take it from a personal standpoint. Hi. How are you doing? Good. Going back to what you were saying about Cliff and the offense, how is he as a teacher in teaching all this? Yeah, I mean I think he does a really great job of making things simple, first and foremost. He doesn't overcoach and I think that's the trust that he has in our group and his coaches, our position coaches to fill in the details. So we'll have an install meeting and it'll be a good amount of time, but then our position coaches will have time and we'll make it specific to that position. And so then we'll come in and have a walkthrough and then after that we'll have another walkthrough. And so I don't think there's been a time where I've come out here and I'm kind of worried about what I got.

3:24:17You know what I mean? And when you get into certain offices, there could be so many details where you could be overwhelmed. And I think then it forces, it kind of separates guys in a sense that like one guy may study more than another guy. But when you have these, these sessions that we have where we're having installs in the morning, we're having two walkthroughs and then we're coming on the field and doing it. Like I think you notice a lot of guys are playing a lot faster and more confident because he's keeping it simple, but also he's very particular in what he's expecting, but it's not a lot. So there's not a pressure of to get it right, but at the same time, you know it's expected of you and you know you're going to have the tools given to you to be successful out there on the field. And this offseason, just the totality of change from front office players coaches, the turf field. What does that been like for you just to see what's going on? It's been fun. You know, I think from Mr. Harris and the entire ownership group down to Adam Peters, down to DQ, down to Jada, who he drafted and bringing in Marcus and Jeff and all those guys and down to leaders.

3:25:23We have on our team. I think it was extremely specific in the way they tried to build this thing going into this year. First, having the right people, bringing in leaders, bringing in guys who love to compete. First thing that DQ said when he came here was, and his first meeting, like if you love to compete, this is going to be the place for you. And I love it. You know what I mean? I love bags and going at it with the DBs every day. Like the little mundane stuff can seem a little boring, but I think that was where you make the gains during the offseason, where you're really focused on. Hey, I'm going to give all I got for this day, and I'm going to get better. And then I'm going to learn from the film and come back tomorrow and ready to do it again. And he also understands like the benefits of having breaks. Like he's giving us breaks. We've had weeks off here and there that we can compose ourselves, but then come back and give it all we got. You know what I mean? And when you got a coach that understands the physicality of an entire season, where you guys do need breaks by the same time we're going to get after it. It makes it fun as a leader because you can take that to your room and be like, yo, we got these, we got this week.

3:26:25You know what I mean? That's extremely important, but you know we have this little break coming up, where you're going to get your your mind and your body and your soul right. So coming into this season, I'm really optimistic of what we can be this year. And I think it started with the foundation that the ownership group and the entire staff has built. And now it's on myself as a leader to continue to hone that in into the locker room. But I think it's great because we have so many great leaders from all across the league who have won and we got Bobby Wagner in there. You know what I mean? I asked a hall of famer. So like, you know, being able to have kind of guys like that that you can lean on that can sometimes take over that leadership role where it doesn't fall on one person. I think it's extremely refreshing and knowing that everybody's on the same page and the message is the same allows you to go out there with confidence and always expect to know you. Terry, you seem to spend many of your off seasons learning about things beyond football, hobbies, what have you doing in this off season so far? To hobbies or increase your knowledge of the world around you.

3:27:28Let's see a question. Play a lot of golf. That day just keeps my competitive juices flowing. Planning the wedding. That's going well. And I just been grinding like, honestly, you know, I've been hungry this all season. I started working out, you know, pretty early and you start to see guys like coming back and it's just fun to like to be here and compete and feel like everybody's on the same page, you know what I mean? And so for me, I'm a grind every off season, but just this one just feels like it's the start of something new and special and the foundation of is extremely important and to be a part of that to have a hand in that. You know, it's an honor, you know, and I put a lot of expectation on myself to come out here and be the guy that I know I'm capable of and also like taking the next step and being somebody that our quarterbacks that can trust and believe in.

3:28:31So this off season was pretty simple for me. It was just really about, you know, working and grinding and getting better. He talked about Jaden before. And so far, I know we haven't seen everything. But in terms of his arm strength, the throws, he's making anything surprising so far about the types of his ability in that regard. Definitely. I think after the second or third crosser that he threw, I started telling receivers like, hey, you gotta get your head around. You know what I mean? Because again, each quarterback throws the ball, definitely sees the field differently. So sometimes on crossers, a lot of quarterbacks may like to see you cross the ball and get into that open zone over there. If it's a man flattened off, they like to see you get open where him. He has a really good anticipation over the middle of the field where he can make those throws and give you a chance to catch and run. And he's really accountable too. Like we had a play today where he felt like he missed me and, you know, it's not a big deal at all. You know what I mean? Him and I could talk to those things and there's been a play that I've talked to him about. I could do a better job. But again, like that open that open form of communication from a rookie, I think is very rare.

3:29:34And I think it speaks to the confidence he knows who he is, but he's also not afraid to say when he's wrong. And he knows he needs room to improve. But his touch on the deep balls is amazing. You know, I love getting extra reps after practice with him. We're just catching the top end of a deep ball. As big for me, you know, I mean, I get to track the ball over my shoulder and as big for him to be able to get used to dropping the ball in the bucket. But he just naturally has an ability to throw the ball. He sees the windows really well. And now he's just, you know, continue to get adjusted to the speed in the past rush. I think he's these reps that he's getting are unbelievable during 11 on 11 because he's getting to feel pain and Allen and DA and Cleveland Farrow. Like we got some dogs up there who are going to come after him. You know what I mean? And we got some great guys up front who are going to protect them. And so these reps, I feel like are even better than just seven on seven seven on seven. I think he could do in the sleep to be fair. Like he throws the ball really well. But when you get this 11 on 11, two minute drill, you're putting them in game like situations. And I'm looking them in his eye. I'm like, we play a real ball now. Like we we we plan. You know what I mean? And you just see no, no anxiousness in his game and his demeanor, which is extremely exciting. And then, you know, he's extremely lighthearted. And he's always smiling. So he's joking with lime and D line. He's just cool with everybody. And like I said, like for a rookie quarterback to come in like that, where guys are gravitating to him. And he's not afraid to be who he is.

3:30:55That's dope. I think he has a bright future for himself. The tough losses, the tough seasons can weigh on a player. You're entering the prime of your career. J.A. kind of mentioned it last year. All he cares about is winning. He wants to win now. Is there a sense of urgency? You obviously always want to win. Knowing that, you know, you're getting to the prime of your career. Like you want to win now. Yeah, I think that's a fair question. I think, you know, you start to evaluate when you I'm in year six and you know how fast it goes. And I try not to put the cart before the horse were looking too far ahead by the same time. You do want to win. You want to be a part of a winning culture and have a chance to win the Super Bowl and the playoffs and all those things. Like that's why we we do this personally. And I'm just excited with being a part of an organization in an environment where now like everybody's on the same page in the in the message is uniform and it speaks from the top down. And it reflects the guys that they're bringing in, you know, all the guys that they brought in are guys who are hungry who are competitors who not only fighting for spots, but we want to help us win games.

3:32:06And when you're around environment like that, like that, that makes you excited, makes you hopeful. And, you know, you don't know how it's going to turn out until we start playing games. But the foundation is extremely important. And I think this off season, we've really done a great job of building that they have. And then when a coach, Quinn guy here building with this team. So I feel like we're going to be going into this off season really knowing what we all got to do individually to become ready for camp. But the message is clear to come back to camp ready to compete and and be ready to win. Thanks, Larry. Appreciate you guys. Yeah. Yeah. One of the funniest guys on the team right now. I think you're talking really late, you're trying to balance out of not getting too high on your motion. How does that motivation for you show up on an identity basis? Well, it's more preparation, more film. What does that look like for you? It's just really an edge and everything you do, I feel like. And, you know, carrying that kind of pissed off mentality. I mean, obviously not letting it affect you in a negative way.

3:33:14But, you know, making it remind you, hey, like, I'm going to go the extra inch here. I'm going to, you know, see if I can find something extra on film late at night. Or I'm going to, you know, go over this sheet again, call the plays one more time. All these little things that, you know, I just, you know, we just can't let that what happened last time happened again. We're only in this week, I was talking about how you play back here football. He tended to be playing in the Rose Bowl. He grew up in big 10 country. What does it mean to take part in this game? What does it mean to you? You kind of grow them up? It's a tell, man. It's crazy that, you know, that God has blessed me and put me in this position to be here and be the quarterback in the Rose Bowl. You know, a game that I grew up watching every single year. Some unbelievable games that I've watched in the Rose Bowl, some classics. And just to be a part of it is a blessing. And I think we're all, we're all humbled to be here and we're all understanding of how unbelievable this opportunity is and we're not taking it lightly because, you know, again, it's a business trip.

3:34:16And, you know, the only thing that we're looking at is, you know, we win this game, we go on a playing couple. So, you know, it's really exciting. It's, you know, crazy that we're here and that we're a part of this, but, you know, can't let it be too big. You know, gotta go out there and play football. I think so. I think, you know, you go back and watch the film and, you know, I just didn't, you know, and I'm hyper critical of myself and I think we all are here. You know, but I just look at it and I'm like, man, I don't think anyone this year beat us. You know, I think we beat ourselves every time. And, you know, you watch and, you know, we had to turn over, you know, in our own 20-hour ride. And they got the kick, you know, that's two possessions, it's called the first half. And then, you know, obviously the way the game ended, like, and we're still one point away. And that's what, what hurts, and it was, you know, a hostile environment in their place. You know, I'm just, I'm just thankful that, you know, I said this, this is the other day, but I'm just thankful that we get through the other.

3:35:20I feel like, you know, looking back at two weeks ago, you know, Tennessee, you've collected a confidence by this, you know, it may be one thing, you know, you two will show the, you know, you put it all together. Yeah, what is your sense of the team from that aspect? Because it feels a little bit different. Yeah, I think, you know, a game like that, you know, in sales confidence, as it shows us what we're capable of. But you can't be complacency, and it can never be comfortability, it has to be confidence and drive. And that's what it has to, it has to be like, man, like, we can do this. When we play it our best, if it was anyone in the country that can play with us, but we have to be on our game. We have to make sure that, you know, we can't let anything go. A lot of people take this as well. You can keep backing up to that, I feel like we can keep the emotion of this offense, but then you can get on to it. What do you think might be the offense for my second? I just, you know, at the end of the day, I just want to keep the ball moving down the field, you know, getting in a rhythm.

3:36:22I think it's going to be big for us, and I think we did a really good job of that in Tennessee game. We're weathering the storm a little bit early, and there are a couple of early calls that we got to fail to sound in that game. We can't keep this going, but regardless, we kept the drive going. For me, keeping us on schedule, taking care of the ball, and making sure that we can burn on third down in our situation we get. You know, we do all that stuff, obviously for me, and I want to be these guys, and drive the machine because we got, when we're on our stuff, we're on our stop. We just got to make sure that we finish our preparation, right? We've got us three days, and we're all there for our best reward room. Thank you. Thank you, everyone. Thank you, guys. You come on this way. I'm talking about this, you know, just recently. Talking about how, what I want to do for the world is, I want to bring that home energy, the he brought, right? So last year, of course, I'm sure he's been doing for years, but the year when I spent my own, he brought a lot of energy, excitement, happiness in the room,

3:37:25which is his natural energy, to where I always had to focus on me. You know, I didn't have to make sure other guys were, you know, feels the type of way when they came in here, because hump brought that. You know, the hump's not here, but I saw when you did for a room, I want to be that guy to make sure I was an amptical practice. Everybody's, I'm taking a field team on period, you know, until the low day, or something, you know, to the surface, and I want to make it feel like home-to-home. You know, you have to pass the trip. I want to bring that, because that's what me and hump did to each other, we would have each other do something to do. It's like, you walk, you're lit. So I want to do that, I want to bring that energy, I want to make bring more guys. You know, should do that. I want to do that from day one, you know, I kind of, I want to do that from day one. I want to come to them, and obviously it's the time I spend, obviously it's the four OTA started. Just being in myself just thinking about what the room needs, you know, because I don't know.

3:38:30I, renewal as one of leaders, you know, on my offense, is that we need a guy like that, that is going to make sure the OIs picked up. We're ready to go every day, those healthy, kind of little things are having a practice of people, saying anything, and how I may leave, maybe different than somebody else may leave, you know, like to practice, at least like to be positive, you know what I mean. So, but, he, the energy I would be on, just though, I'd be on, so I was kind of, how would it be? Going on, literally my whole life, I want to get out of the NFL, team captain, like specifically, and I felt I wasn't a captain in high school, wasn't a captain in college, but I want to make a joke, I was in high school. So, I feel like I'm not going to get a captain like this, and I felt, you know, but that would be awesome, you know, but, you know, that happens, I'd be great, but not either way, I want to assume a role as a captain from the perspective of guys,

3:39:35until the visual words, and get back in that point. Yeah, I mean, I can't say that, I mean, I guess the biggest thing is that I felt like how you used to in the past, but it didn't take just the first day of the LTAs, it took training and left and right, once this season ended, because I know what was going to be the champion, so I took a lot of, you know, grips, just to give back to feeling like myself, for what they want to do in LTAs, and then now, over and over, but now, like today specifically, just changing some small things with my feet, that is it, talking about the long coach, and some things I can do with my feet to get to the, to sell my traditional angle that I love to sit on, and thought I felt, thought I felt great already, but I felt even better, so I need to work size a little more, now I'm getting my feet back, and how I like the right side, and on the left side, so I'm excited. I mean, obviously I feel like, in the league, whether I left the right, you're still going against Premier Guy,

3:40:39so obviously, you're high expectations for your left and right tackle, but definitely, like the level of energy, and like the expectation, definitely taking the human strength, because now, coming out of the blind side, that stuff, has the tackle world, you know, so yeah, I would say in terms of communication as far as just even outside of the facility, you just stuff like that, like really crazy, but the tackle court back, bond even more off the field, I think has been something that's even cool, maybe it's just that I got the text one day, and I said, hey, I keep going left, I was like, you know, yeah, I've been training both, I've been training both, you know, I asked after the season, they're like, honestly, you know, we'll talk a few sub-latencies in, and I just got the text one, I was telling what happens with the free agency, then, so I was like, you know what, I had an OCC right tackle, so if I get the word, I'm going, I'm standing right tackle,

3:41:39I'm just doing what I did before, I'm building on that, but I was trying to left tackle now, as if we're going to be left tackle, and I'd rather do that than training on right tackle because of the call A, it was left tackle, I was just switching my feet. You know what I mean? So I'm like, let me just prepare an advantage, I was like, yeah, it was good. You know, I think occasionally, on third down, there would be a lot of twists, I was just not like, it's a automatic look. And I think that was my mindset for like the first half of the season, like I didn't have to go once again with some pros, like, oh my gosh, they did that. I kind of figured, okay, like, this is the type of rush, and we're like, yeah, this is how this guy usually rushes, like, get the vibe, this is how it begins, like, the rush, you know, tackles that, you know, first of your guys, you know, I mean, I'm just going to put a little bit of pressure on you, you know, what it was going to be, or you know, what we every stud, and honestly, just knowing that's kind of an advantage to, so you're not, you're not, oh, the problem is with my side, it was never air-doll,

3:42:39but it comes up when I was like, three plays in a row, and in two minutes, I knew that, it was going to be so light. You know what I mean? So I'm watching more everybody else, and you really, you know, it goes out there occasionally, or third down, I was like, yeah, I was, so, thick, thick, it's kind of, it's also kind of an advantage in the way, but it's also exciting, like, okay, I'm going to get the hardest to look, you know, those are real, real reps, you know, the things, and really out on our way to kind of process, and I was like, hey, when I tell me, let me know about, I'm just going to train it, I was training all the way, so TAs, I guess if I didn't hear anything about TAs, I would've came in like, so, you know what I mean? Because just like, I'm cool with training, I would've been cool with training, but I feel like anybody, any position will feel like, okay, like, you want as soon as possible to give your feet kind of subtle, and your hips subtle, and your hands, so then, certain kind of that.

3:43:42Would it have been harder for you to work both, or how to use it? No, you know, but they're definitely, but in terms of the development, it's definitely a lot faster to stay on one side, but I think having that week that we had to transition with the seasons over, it kind of like was fun, you know. It would have been good trying to get up, put up my front, and weak things at a time right now, but when it comes back, I'm going to show them the one house, so I just got a house to not too far from, so I told them, I got that house, so I could yell outside, like DJ, you know what I mean, so yeah. My mom said, you know, just go out there, my dad just dominated the person I was in front of me, you know, just do what I've been doing for the last two to three weeks, I should say, but you know, they play men on men, so I'm just ready for the challenge.

3:44:50I mean, feels good, just say somebody going out there and playing men on men, I guess Ohio State receivers is something crazy, but you know, we're just ready for the challenge. They said they're not changing their gameplay, but we got to go out there and show them the reason why not to play men on men. I mean, if I be on the curve, I'd be on the curve, it's not really a big deal to me. It may definitely be a blessing for sure, just to be on the curve of a game, but you know, it's not really a dream of mine, it's a dream of mine, but I don't really think too much of it. I mean, no, not yet. Probably hit me after this season, just playing in the Carlos Fubo player house as a freshman,

3:45:52playing in the Rose Bowl as a freshman, playing in a Cardin Bowl, not in the National Championship. I mean, it's a blessing for sure, but it haven't hit me yet. My favorite catch, I would say we play Michigan State on the one I call over to defenders, definitely probably my favorite for sure. Or you go the one from Iowa, I should say, and as a parliament too. I mean, like you said, it's pretty frustrating me having a game that I had in the Rose Bowl, and they're coming to the Cardin Bowl, doing different things, chasing their scheme up against me.

3:46:54But I mean, like you said, whatever I could do to make the, I mean, help the team win. It's not really a big deal for me, as long as we win, that's all I really care about, and it got us to the National Championship. I mean, it's a lot, we put a lot of work in this season, we have, how has we have loads, we have people cutting us out, but we hear now, we just ready to put on a show Monday. Oh yeah. First of all, the one is National Championship because there was means a lot. I mean, you see everything that he bent through this year, people saying he should be fired,

3:47:56and this is not the third, but I mean, you see everything that he bent through this year. I mean, I see everything that he bent through this year, see everything, people saying about him on Twitter. I wasn't here, he first got the head coach in job, but I know this year for sure, we definitely got to win this for him. I mean, it's a lot, a lot of people in the league, I should say, I can't really say who, but I mean, you had guys like Odele, you had Stephard Diggs, it means a lot of Michael Thomas, Chris Carter, just a lot of guys I played in, and I felt and stuff like that, but yeah, really them guys for sure. No, just keep going, you got it, you've netstuffed for sure, really, I really appreciate that.

3:48:58Oh, like physical defense, like people say, like they like to play man, they're not changing their scheme. So we're just ready for the challenge, like you said, best defense, we probably go see all year, and we just gotta be ready to go out there and Monday and just put on the show. I'm excited for Will, him first coming here in Ohio State, January, our first workout we had together, just everything that we did through the season, I'm just happy for Will for him to be in this position right now, but we got to finish the job and that's the winning out of the O Monday.

3:49:58It's pretty funny, I'm just only a freshman, but I miss the bless of the show, people even say that, but I've got two, three more years left for Carlos, and I'm just focused on Carlos right now, and I'm not really worried about the NFL right now. Oh, it's very special for me, just being a freshman, I'm playing a national stage, like a peer for national titles, something that I dreamed of as a very young kid. I'm just happy to be here, and I just can't wait to put on the show Monday for you guys. I mean, all of us, we were just sitting on the bench and we just seeing him hit the quarterback in the ball, and we all just got up and just started jumping up and down, we all decided, happy for Jack and that moment, and we just knew that that moment, like, yeah, we're going to the ad for sure.

3:51:15I mean, it shows a lot, I mean, you know, going from high school or winning three-state championships, I'm a Donna, then, you know, coming to Ohio State, just competing for national title right now, I mean, just so that I've picked two great schools, but I'm happy to be here, and I just can't wait to put on the show Monday. The coolest person in the reach out to? The coolest person? I mean, you got a lot, I can't really say just a specific person. You got a lot of great guys, we're trying to lead, like, oh, Dale, you have guys like, Stefan Dex, a lot of other places, well, just can't cut to my mom, but really, really them two guys will show, oh, Dale, a Stefan Dex. Yeah, yeah, I mean, like they say, they play man, so I mean, I'm just ready for the challenge,

3:52:20and just get ready to go out there Monday, and just no putting on the show. Thank you. We're going to go back over there. The Vice Geno, how you gave me? I said just keep going first. I know the reason why I'm here, and, like I said, just keep going first, and just don't keep the main thing and the best corner I face this year. I mean, I face a lot of great corners. I can't really say, but yeah, I face a great lot of great corners. I can't really put a name on it. I'm going to give you a chance to see what it is. I'm going to give you a chance to see what it is. What is your dream vacation? My dream vacation is, uh, Terence and K-Codes.

3:53:25Okay. Oh, good. Are you? Yeah. Uh, I say both respect and frustration as well. But I mean, I thought they come out there and trip it to me and they say stick it to whatever doing on our year and that's playing man covers, which is ready for the challenge. Uh, pretty good group. Christian Gary 29 is a great corner. 15, uh, Leonardo Moore. Two great guys are right there. Very physical, but you know, we all have to receive it. So we ready for the challenge. Other questions? Yeah.

3:54:25Other questions? They're really out. Okay. All right. Come on. Okay. Okay. All right. Uh, I say just no understanding the defense, understanding the defense, understanding the game plant, understanding what Coach Kelly is trying to get in. Um, I mean, just coming in, I felt I progress from our first game against Akron to now. I feel like I better each and every week. Um, me being slowed down a lot for me. Um, but yeah, really just no understanding. Devices and no understanding what they're trying to do to me for sure. Um, two guys, great part of the best we go see all year for sure. Um, two, two physical guys. Um, but you know, we're ready. We're ready for the challenge that they're coming with. And that's the play man.

3:55:25Oh man. And, you know, we ready to go on Monday. Yeah. I mean, environment is pretty crazy. Uh, seeing all these cameras. Certain I never thought I'd see them alive, but it's a blessing for sure. This is the main disposition right now. Um, we just had a prayer, prayer, prayer, uh, prayer meeting. And, you know, we all, they all, I mean, we all discussed the issues because they discussed issues and you know, we just want the work. Uh, I mean, not two and a half weeks we had off before Tennessee game. And we just came out there on Tennessee game and we play with a chip on our chip on our shoulder. Um, all throughout the playoffs, and we go continue to play with that chip on our shoulder in a championship on Monday.

3:56:28Uh, do you know how that very impactful? Uh, you got a very impact on my career, I should say, uh, you know, just going to his games as a very young kid, seven, eight years old, um, him playing West, we're playing for West Virginia and they play Clemson Orange Bull down in Miami. Um, he just going to, they're seeing his games. It was like, yeah, I definitely want to play on the stage and I can't wait till I get to, know that moment for sure. Who are you? Uh, cause they really just in his own, his own love space. Uh, he's just walking around trying to get his mind right trying to get his mind ready for the game. Uh, but you know, he, uh, he just gave everybody hype in the locker room and you know, just trying to get us ready to go to win the game. Oh, yeah.

3:57:28Oh, yeah, for sure. I mean, you, uh, you go play mangas or higher stair receivers. I mean, just be ready, uh, cause, you know, we definitely go come out there and know, uh, give our best. And I mean, they said not to change what they do. So we're just ready for the challenge. Uh, not a year later, uh, definitely sometime in my career in college, uh, but not my first in college, I should say, uh, I mean, just to be able to be in this position right now, just, you know, a blessing or just a yellow key for Miami to be here. I won't take it for granted. I'm ready to go out there and give him a round. Yeah.

3:58:32Yeah. Yeah. Uh, I mean, I was watching that game against was a Georgia. I blew it. Yeah. I was watching that game. Uh, I was pretty sick myself cause I was actually committed at that time. Um, so I mean, yeah, they left a bad testimony mouth. Um, but I mean, we ready to go out there and Monday to redeem myself and you know, just go put, put on show Monday. Uh, I mean, I just laughed. Um, but you know, that's what they do. They're not going to change what they do just because we were high on state. So you got to go out there and put it on. Put it on. Why not to play? Uh, man, no, man. It gets us. So we just got to go out there and show them Monday. So. Okay.

3:59:32He said again. Sorry. Uh, my journey here at Ohio State repair me a lot from that. Just go on through everything that I've been through. Uh, my first guy here, all the, uh, Matt Jules, all the hard workouts that we had, all the hard practices. Um, just preparing all of this for this moment. And I'm just ready to go out there and give it up my all on Monday. Okay. Okay. Yeah. We just squeezed this. One or nine. 100. Me is big and strong. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Go. One more time. One more time. One more time.

4:00:38One 20 now. One 20. Yeah. One 20? Yeah. That's great. Yeah. Pretty good. No problem. Uh, one of the most is the one against Michigan State when I caught over two defenders. On airsoft line. Party line one or the one after that, I should say, or you go the one against Iowa. Party them three. Part of my best ones, for sure. Oh, I mean, just we'll put in the ball in my area.

4:01:40And I just know how to make a play for them. Um, even though somebody was grabbing my face, I just know I still have to make a play because the ball touched my hand. So, maybe just when the ball and the other thing, I have to make the play no matter how the ball comes at me. After a big game, um, I mean, we really, they really feed us chick for labor, pizza after the game. And so it's really either chick for labor or pizza. So, you're probably chick for labor, for sure. Yeah. Uh, it went, it went pretty good. Everybody just uh, uh, speaking with their thing is going right in what they think is wrong.

4:02:42Um, which is a lot of the older guys, what's in their opinions on what we need to do to come together as a team. Um, but you know, that me and definitely helped us in a, in a big way, because it helped us want to feel as well, because we play that great football right now. And we just got to tune out on Monday. Yeah, definitely got emotional. I can't really say what really was said because that's my prayer prayers only and coaches only, but it was definitely some stuff said that, um, people took, uh, people took and uh, went with it. And that's the reason we plan to, we're right with plan right now. Uh, yeah, make help me a lot this year. Um, him being our older guy in the room. Um, me help me and Carl Nell as well and Brandon and all the guys in our city room as well. Me just a great guy as well. Very smart. Uh, me and make this been a big part of the reason that I'm having to see that I'm having a well, because he's been a big, you know, older guy been there, been a lot of great guys in that room.

4:03:46Like Chris a lot of way, Garrett Wilson, Marvin Harrison Jr. Jackson, Smith, Jim, but so he's seen all the grace I've been through there and me teaching us the right thing and the right way and in the buck out way for sure. I love it. That means they don't know what's coming out of the next. We got 12 personnel. We got 11 personnel. You can throw two of us in. You don't want to stop it all. What have you made of the quarterbacks of three of them? Uh, not too much. I feel like they all come in here working. I feel like everybody's making their doors, making their paths and everybody making their directions. When did you take away from last season? When did you take away from last season? When did you have to take away from last season? When the next game, that was it. When the next game go out there on Saturday, beat the man in front of you, when he came out with a national championship and a bench. Strict Valls about improvement as a individual when he worked on this. I'm talking about everything I'm trying to do my game. It's well running, it's a place where I'm trying to come up and fill it on.

4:04:46We hear about either the team that's not just for this group, but for the whole team. The street kids step up who has started to step up and realize their place. I feel like we've had leaders from last year that came back. I feel like we got new guys that stepped up into their roles and their roles and around the team. That becoming leaders. Being a leader, you always have to be vocal. You can have the same examples on the field. Or you can be vocal and do both. I was happy for Gia. I saw her grind and I saw her match. She was grinding and getting an extra work. We come out here and play ball. He's out here doing a pro day yesterday. I just see him ready to make some real money. What place do you feel like you're a different player now going into this year and maybe you were last year? I feel like every year I've just improved on my overall game. Blocking and catching, consistent wise. People used that word.

4:05:47But I feel like I'm just overall better. I came in here ready to go. How much does it push you when you're in a room with guys like Max and Will and Bennett that you know you've got to be on your game if you're going to get a move? I feel like I start by iron every day and come in and work and they go push me every day to work. It's just like I'm going to do that. I'm probably going to ask this before that. It's now a crowded room. You got a match for someone who's a graduate of a match. I love more. I love Max. Max Claire. Max LeBlanc. Both of them. I love him. What's your flashed any time here? Is this the year where it all comes together? I feel like every year with my year, but hey, you're going to see this year. I'm ready to come out here and put on a show for the Bucket Nation. I feel like everybody on the field is ready to come and put on a show. We're trying to go back and back. You got a play quite a bit though last year, John. What did you pick up from all of that, especially in a championship run? They were counting on you. Honestly, just be ready at any time. You can be throwing in at any time. Just like I was. I probably had some rest while I was just throwing in. You've got to get it done.

4:06:56If you don't get it done, they're going to find somebody who has to do it. I think we asked you this year to come. You've done it. It's fine to say it. We're definitely seeing what you've progressed. As I tied in, the all of that needs. I just think I'm even a year again. Honestly, over the spring and some of this, I feel like I've told them I've got stronger in the way we're in. I've also got a little bit faster, so I can get in and out of the breaks a little bit better. And just the mind part of the game. The middle part of the game. If you got even better in the end, how would you describe that? I'll say it again. The mind part of the game. Well, I feel like it's a lot more fun. I say the tie-downs, we come in here. Five o'clock every other day, we go walk through more fun. Which is more students in the game now. We're in like that. Thanks for the one. We're looking forward to it. Bob wants to like five. What do you remember about that? I feel like it was just an exciting play. I was the last read on it.

4:07:57Like the very last read on it. I don't go out. I came down with the catch. I didn't think that was down. You're but I still had a great rookie year. Six yards of carry. Things like that. I think it was like nine touchdowns, ten including the playoffs. And so there's always been like, alright, you guys let me show my talent, shine a little bit. Even when I had the knee, so I had the knee, right? A lot of people don't know. I didn't get hurt again whenever I got cleaned up. So I went down in 21, right? Had the injuries in the knee injury. And then came back later the next year. And I played the first few games and I just feel there was a lot of scar tissue in there. So I had to get it cleaned up. I didn't get hurt again. I could have played the whole year, but I got it cleaned up so I can feel like me. And so after I got that cleaned up, the first two games back from the injury I had over 120 yards rushing. Right? And then went on, had great, great ending of the year.

4:08:59100 total yards in the play-all game we lost, which I hate the most. Styles don't matter to me, I want to win. But then come back the next year, hurt again. Like 20 kills. So two really unfortunate injuries, but that's just a guy's plan. I think that the storm is now over. And I do think that I'll be able to shine my light to the whole world. Are you concerned that you have that label that you can't stand with me? I could care less. Because I do, I know this out there. Because as it should be, it should be. I got hurt two major injuries back, not back to back years, but you know. So I haven't been on the field as much as I should. That's true. That is true. But it's not like I'm having these little, little dinky injuries and sitting out. It's something I can't control. Literally. So that's why I'm not bothered by it. Like, yeah, I am injury-poorn. You can say that. You know, but I do think that the chargers are getting. A guy that's going to be healthy from now on, you know, God will it.

4:10:02And it's going to be great. And I do think that it's going to be a great however many years here. When you've been on the field, you've been highly productive. Yeah. 5.8 yards of very average for your career. Like knowing that when you're out there, you're very productive. How much confidence does that give you that really all you need is not what you need? All the confidence in the world, you know, the way I work. I want to say just from the numbers, but just the way I work, my work ethic, you know, and my relationship with Jesus is like, I have the most confidence when I step out there. Because I do know like, if he grants me the health, it's over with. I don't think I'll be, you know, I think it'll be a great year or whatever. A couple of years, however many years he grants me a great health, you know, and I think just the work ethic, my prayer and all that stuff, that's what helps me have that confidence. With the numbers, we'll be there and they might be higher after this year. You know, and it's crazy to think about it because I had 6.6 yards per carry, you know, so we'll see.

4:11:07You looking forward to running behind this line, that thing? Oh yeah. Yeah, yeah, I play with Bradley. I play with him, you know, I know Slater, I know all the guys, you know, and I'm excited. I think it's like I said earlier, it's a talented group. You know, we just got to put it together and win some games because that's what I came through for. Just in all the parts of the year or... I want to say part of the recruitment, but like whenever I decided I was going to sign it, it was great to have him in the room. Yeah, we're great. We have a great relationship. That's like my brother. I think it complements each other very well. You know, he can do a lot of stuff too. You know, a lot of people think he's just power power power, but I think he has some other parts of the game too, which it'll be great because I feel like I can do everything. And when one's to get tired, we can roll it in, we keep rolling, win some games. When you, the two of you, keep going, how do you think this is going to look?

4:12:08The work will be that partnership that's back there. I know. That's a hard question. How do I think it'll look beautiful? You know, a lot of people call this a passive league, but I think you got to run the ball to win a Super Bowl. You know, if you look at the team to win a Super Bowl, they can run the ball, they can control the clock. And so if we're both good, it'll look great. Beautiful. I would describe it as a great offense. I would describe it as, you know, a great offense. I think he gives a quarter, he's going to give the quarterback a lot of options. He's going to give the running back a lot of options. He's going to give the receiver a lot of options, you know, and I think it'll be, I think it's going to be great. His offense is going to be amazing. When we talk to him, you know, I was like, why are you going to build something good for Russian offenses throughout your career? Which everywhere you can. And you said that one part of it is just, you got to call the police. You got to call the run the police. As a running back, you know, how much confidence, how much you say it is, and give you a play collar,

4:13:12that's going to stick with it and allow you and the offense to run into a rhythm of the game. It gives me a lot of excitement. You know, it's going to be, like I say, it's fun to play in his office. And I think he does have some good things in the past game too. But like you said, he sticks with the run and that's the identity. You want the offense that has an identity, right? You're going to be looking everywhere else to find your identity. You want to have it. And so I think his offense has that. And the guy he builds and puts in there, it complements that identity. So I think it's going to be great. You mentioned you're around a percent now. So you mean, Volga or the training? Volga, I ain't going to answer any of the four. If it's up to me? Yes. Look, because I had this problem like two years, three years ago. I'm thinking I'm four-go. I think I'm ready to go. And then, actually, you know, I'm on PUP. Like, hey, look, some stuff is above my pay-gray. But I don't know. Hopefully I can start.

4:14:13I think I'm ready to start, you know, the beginning training camp. But that's not up to me as I've learned. How do you feel about your people? I wouldn't say that. I think I've been in some great organizations. And I think this organization is a great organization. And the training staff is great. And so they just want what's best for me, you know? And they're taking care of me. Which that's what you want in an organization. And so that's where that comes from. Which I appreciate it. Like, I really appreciate that. You know, because I'm a type of guy. Like, I work really hard. So maybe sometime I'm blind to, you know, the danger of something, you know? So I appreciate it. But like I said, if it's up to me, yeah, I'm out there. But never know. Well, any frustration for you during the getting into the agency, you know, dealing with rehab and not, you know, having a full season of paid for the production to go out there. Was there any part of that where you're like, you know, at the end of the open market with a different situation, you know?

4:15:16I like it. I like how would I say this? I like it the hard way. But not, you know, I like it the hard way. I like it. I like trial and tribulations. So, I mean, the dice that I was given to roll was I was coming off a third Achilles. And that was the Lourdes plan. So it was beauty in that. Like, I was comfortable. I was caught like, there was multiple teams, you know? I wasn't like, I didn't have any other team. But I was comfortable in sitting back and just enjoying the process, letting myself get fully healed. So whenever that team whoever I would sign with, who now is the Chargers, is going to get the best me, you know? And I think people all around the league know that like, okay, this guy, okay. It's a high risk, high reward type thing, right?

4:16:17Not even a high risk, low risk because you, it's a business, right? So I got hurt last year. So not as much money in these people on there. But I think everyone around the league knows that whenever I am on the field, the numbers don't lie. And so they know that. And a lot of teams were like, are here. You can, we give you this, but we want you to be healthy. So when I'm healthy, it's going to be great. The chance that I've been giving here, I'm so grateful. And I know that's going to be, they won't be, they won't regret it. Are you the type of person that likes to prove people wrong? Like you've done a couple things like the high risk, high reward, injury from, you know, like, are you the type of person that really tries to prove people wrong? No. I hear it. I hear it. I see it. It's pretty cool. Like you'll never see me unless I'm just like in a bad mood. You never see me like, oh, like if I have a great game or a great year, like I have this wonderful year, I ain't going to go back and, you know, like, yeah, like, yeah, what happened?

4:17:18No, because I don't care. Like, you're eventually see, like, I'm like, I'm a guy that's really good. So I ain't worry about that. But I'm proving myself right that I am one of the best in the league. Right? Forget all the naysayers and people that talk about being injury prone because whenever I have this great year, it's going to be forgotten, you know, too. Why, why give that energy? Talking just into the all-erick, I got a chance to be in the all-erick. Yeah, I was, you know, we just, with him, you know, he's a great guy. I mean, he was in my class. I remember seeing him on, we were at an award show because I was a dope walker or a finalist. And I'm like, I've seen him play, but I didn't know he was that tall. Like, I didn't know he was like six, six. I went to first arm. This was years ago in college. And I'm like, damn, this is pretty tall. Like, it's cool though. Like, I never really got to, I ain't going to lie. I thought it was going to be kind of, you know, you know, nerdy. But he's cool, dude.

4:18:18Very laid back. No, we'll face to him. Well, it's just because like the last three years, it's been disappointed at the end of the season. So I feel like we put more work in. I feel like that's what we're missing. We're just putting more work in. And you just got to do that throughout the summer, the spring, the fall. And then you just got to show it on the field. Tell the guy to test, Jack. When you take a, you still like in a mold, you're in practice. And you look at it through all of the deep beds. And you look at the personnel chains. We're failing to come in with Sunday moving up in the post-reloign spring. Like all the guys in the suspension coming back. What's your view of what's out there on the defense and how it may be allowed to do some things to be the new. It's kind of just like, I don't want to like, high part has so much, but I kind of look like a legendary defense kind of. I feel like we got playmakers everywhere. And then moving Sunday down, I think that's a great move for him. You know, he's a big athletic dude. He can play in a box. He can play like safety thing that's just showing how like,

4:19:18versus how he is. And Caleb, you know, you've seen Caleb how he plays. He's an animal. He's only a sophomore, I think. And I feel like the guys we brought back, you know, we all can we're all dominant. So I feel like as a collective, you're never going to be like unstoppable. So confident is a problem. No. Well, there's a part of that too. And as I mentioned, they're about pacing themselves. Like if there's that much self-believe, then there's also that part of going to build depth. You know, in case you have injuries, case you have injuries. So how do you look at spring in terms of getting the guys that are next in line as prepared to keep that standard high? I think you just got to set a great example for the young guys. And just showing them how to how to practice, how to like watch film, how to take care of their body. Because those are the things you're going to need to like go on this deep run. I think it's like 17 games or something that we're not. We add in games. So the young guys are going to have to play. We can't just play 50 games a snap. That's not going to happen. So. Oh, you did. How do you get to a 70 or 80?

4:20:18I was going to keep working and kind of keep running. Getting in shape. You played so many things. You know, it was kind of surprising to me that you said that. You said that it was a joke. I'm sure. But like, you know, it was surprising to hear that. It's sort of how many snaps you played last year. Did that kind of take a toll on you last year? Do you think that you need to push it even further getting better shapes so you can play all 16, 17 games? Yeah, definitely. I got to get way better shapes than I've been. I felt like it was kind of like it was a joke. Of course, I needed those snaps because the years before I wasn't really playing as much. So I just wanted to get like more experience under my belt. So I can bring younger guys with me because I've been through a lot. One of those younger guys, we're seeing it out here. It's the first time I've heard all your guys years. What have you seen from Will? I've kind of got my last year and we all forgot about it because he was hurt. Now he's running with almost a second man up behind you and Ty.

4:21:18What have you seen from that? Will is a workhorse. He goes, stay quiet. He goes, work hard. And that's what I love about him. He focuses. He don't really talk much. He's going to get a job done. Do a job right. He rarely has any mistakes. What would be a successful season? A national championship. When all the games were going to lose anything, we got a mindset that we can't be beat. And we just got to go show it. That mindset, different. It seems like you guys expect a national championship every year. This year, even more so, you guys have all come back for this. You guys have all decided like an up and down. Does that keep feeling different? Or is it not really any difference? It's just the same work. It's definitely a difference. Everyone working harder. We noticed our last run. Most of us don't have any years after this. So we got to go bigger, go home, and we're not trying to go home. Finish big. We know what you guys think of Michigan. But when you look at what they did, they won the national championship. And you guys took them down to the final minute.

4:22:20You know what I mean? You were right there. Something goes a little different. You guys could have won that game against them. Does that tell you anything about like that, hey, you guys want to win a national championship? You played to the 59th minute with the team that won the national championship last year. Like you're that close. So I'm saying we just like work harder. That's kind of a coach makes of saying, you know, nobody cares, just work harder. Like those, you know, one plate Georgia is the same thing. Yeah. Last, last play, you know, they went on the win in 90. So we just got to get over that hump at the end of the season. I think we'll be fine. How frustrating is that? You're that close against the last two national titles. Of course it's frustrating, but you can't change the outcome. You can't really dwell on it. You just got to come back and work harder. Do things better than you did last year and hopefully the outcome will change. Is that as you get older, you kind of learn. I thought I was working hard and then you always find out there's a little more that you could have been doing? Yeah, definitely. I mean, that's what growing up is basically in college.

4:23:20I thought freshman year I was working as hard as I could, but not look back at it. I really wasn't working hard at all compared to what I'm doing now. So just to learn anything. If the stamina is a 16, then the answer is like, what do you need it to be to be your best? Uh, 80, 85. I mean, I can, it's all on me. I just, I think it's a little higher. I was just trying to be funny, but I mean, it's all on me. I just got to run harder in shape. It's been a pleasure. The idea of a potential is 16 and 17 and 17. How do you say about that idea that's making you nervous about, can you last that long? Do you really need your work? I think I can feel that out there. I think I definitely can last. I was just, you know, we got to get the young guys that come along with us. We can't play 50 snaps again. There's just too much on our bodies. Uh, just everybody's like online, D-line. We got to get those younger guys to play, you know, get that pieces on the D-line and the O-line and everywhere else.

4:24:21So we can last that long. Speaking of a life plan, I'm a snap. Did you like playing that many snaps again last year? I don't know if any of us were really expecting that next time. Uh, yeah, I did. Unless we were like winning by like a lot. Uh, I thought like, there are no moments you know I can go sit down or something. But we're playing them big games like, you know, Northern Dan too or North, those kind of games. Uh, of course I want to be in because I know I can contribute. And I won't want to put that on anyone else when I know I can get the job done. Well, it stands out about Kaden McDonald and he got the kick of you guys in a second here. Oh yeah, definitely. K-Mac is a K-Mac's animal. Y'all, you haven't really seen it yet, but in practice he shows all the time. He's just, he's grown right now. He has to work, I think. He just has to get, you know, into playbook and things like that. You guys are about the exact same size. Listen, you're both listening to 6-3. You're 3-27. He's 3-26. Yeah, he's, I kind of look at him like my junior, but you know, K-Mac, he's going to be a great player. He's just got to develop more and get into playbook. So really a lot on you older guy.

4:25:22There's that large group of young guys and then there's these seniors in the back. Is that part of your task for this year to bring those guys along as well? Yeah, definitely. We got to be leaders. Like I said, we got to have them play this year. We can't just play all the snaps. They got to get in there and get some work. And we got to get them right during the off season. So they can play. And not just play, they want to like contribute, like make plays, tackle the sex. Let's stay down. I'll work this way. You can. It seems like these guys get bigger. Each one of the freshmen class is a bigger, bigger. And those guys kind of, those are going to kind of while you're in the cell. The first. Yeah, they're definitely some big dudes. And they all work hard. I'm really seeing much of some lead day two when I'm passing on. But throughout the workouts, they've been working hard, you know, they're determined to, I just say that. It looks like they're ready to work with me. How important is this? It feels like. There's a lot of great defense that you have big athletic defensive tactics. You can eat up space, but also move, you know, right?

4:26:22That is that. Is that an inquire maybe for great defense to have guys like you that have some balls, but. Also a great. I think that is definitely, I think if you look at the last couple of national championship winners, like team of North, they, you know, they got two good, uh, detaco, two athletic detacos. Look at Georgia, two athletic detacos. I think that's definitely neat if you want to go on that big run and beat those big teams. If you think about that, they're going to fight by the defense attack. It's like, what's Georgia, Jordan Davis and Jeff Carter? Let's miss you again. It's Chris Jenkins. Couple more questions. You know, this is funny, like how. I mean, you understand it because you play it, but I feel like sometimes. I don't know, are people realizing how important defense tackles are a little bit more than they used to? I think so. I think they're starting to develop to develop more and more of these like freakish detacos. Yeah. Like in the combine, just now, you see in like those guys, they're moving forward to 478s and things like that. So we'll see. And when you think about this freakish attack, how do you think you fit into that.

4:27:26All of that kind of player. You watch that and say, yeah, that's me. Yeah, definitely. I think I'm top notch when it comes to detacos, but I don't want to, you know, get a big head, but you know, watch it come on. I watch it do the drills. I have tape to you, like, you're looking like my film. So I think I'm up there with all those. Do you become like a artist who comes to the band up passes the way? When you're going, you're not doing as much a weapon on the weapon. How do you work on that? Do you have like a goal? I don't remember how many you have left. You have a goal on that. How many do you want to have little stuff? I mean, as many as I can have, I think I have more than that, but I think they've counted. I think they've counted some of them. And it's some of them where I like just listed. So, but I think we work on drills matching the hand. I think that's goes big and what we do is a D line, you know, just affecting the quarterback is, anyway you can. It's just great for the defense. That little thing covering his eye, you know, he might throw it.

4:28:26A little bit to the left to our players. So, so it's something that you really, really have to work on. It's a theory that's one of the things that you've maybe worked on the most. You can bring your time here because there are a few guys that I've seen. Like, oh, that passes. We're just going to take a good look. We don't have to ask for this style. We're kind of, kind of, expected for some of those people. I think I just have like a, like, an eye for the ball comment. I kind of just look at the quarterback and just, I see him like load up. I just try to get in his way and sometimes he throws it to me. I don't know. I'm here at the, you know, to the, you know, I've stayed for the backspin. I'm here at the back down passes. I mean, they get frustrated by, you know, we're a team, you know, we're just getting back. Yeah. Big time to grow, you know, you don't have to have the, the pig mentality of problem of, of instant gratification, you know, you can develop and grow. So, and sometimes you may be behind a guy that's a really good player is nothing wrong with developing and growing and playing when your time is right. And if the time is right right now, the freshman, like, what's your main?

4:29:27Did you play early, you know? So we try to also sell that, you know, we care about him as people and try to prepare you for life after football. So it's bigger than just football. We're going to prepare you for life. Whether it's the NFL or on with a regular career in the workforce. We want you to prepare you as a young man and we try to sell that and preach that to the parents. With the remaining having that impact that you mentioned, rolling all these different spots, do you anticipate, you know, there wasn't a lot of rotation among the cornerbacks last year when everyone was healthy. Do you anticipate maybe growing him through the rough guys here with the longer season potentially? Yeah, we play it by ear. You know, I mean, we see how it goes by the time we get in the camp, but, you know, obviously he's earning his stripes. So, you know, you earn your stripes, you know, a large opportunity for you. You know, I mean, we have to see how it goes with all that other stuff. You know, once we get closer to the season, and we're getting the game plan stuff, but he's doing a great job and he's taking a great step forward. Tim, when you're the way that you've been doing the room, or the way you've kind of just established your room now, it seems like it's been like the centerpieces kind of relationships and kind of building bonds.

4:30:30I'm curious, is that something that you came in, put the, like a couple years ago, with the intention of doing leaders, is that something that you're like, that's kind of been cultivated over the course of your time as a position coach here at the guys. No, it's been there for a while. I've been doing that for a long time. It's all about relationship. If you develop real relationship and you're authentic in your communication, and you have honest feedback, and you have direct teaching, the guys that have value and character and they appreciate that stuff, they're embrace that. So, but they have to know you care, and you have to know that it's real, and they have to know that you're really concerned about there where it being as a young man. And when you get close to him, it's been a lot of time with him off the field. You could coach him hard, and you can say truthful things to him, and then they embrace it, and you have real conversation because you know, the only goal is to help him get better as a young man. As you see, computers go, and then those are told that the receiver room is so far ahead of the border, we get a kind of skewed that evaluation sometimes. How's that dynamic change in these two years? Is this a scoop shot or a folder in your paddock?

4:31:30Yeah, it's done balanced up a little bit now. That goes with great competition. We have the, we go against the best receivers in college football. So that helps escalate your growth process, because if you don't figure it out real fast, you're getting embarrassed. So that competition, but what happened with that, I guys start competing, I guys start growing, I guys got better, and now it's even up a little bit. So where you get really good work, at practice today, you know what I mean? So it's competitive, it's fun, those guys both on both sides of all care about each other, so it's great competition and they all are real close. You know what I mean? It's that stuff that gets us better that will prepare us for Saturday. I asked Denzel, that same idea, and said, first day of practice actually the receiver has kind of gone down, was I being kind of a wake-up call maybe for this? No, it's just, it's going to competitive, man. They got the best group in the country that you're going to get every day. So you have to bring it every day. You know what I mean? So we got a great quarterback room, we got a great receiver room, the running backs are really good, so when you out there going against them is deep.

4:32:31So you have to be ready for it, and obviously, man, we see a lot of good stuff with Stay in Coach Kelly doing over there, and so it prepares you a lot, and it helps us grow. So why don't you go into a room and play kind of an exhaustive for a green picture for you? Is that? It's a white or a receiver room kind of a part of your green picture, these are the guys you get to play against. Yeah, always, because you know, that's where you get better, our shop is our. So you know, you get to see that every day of practice that helps you grow. It's no better thing to go against every day than to see that on a daily basis. I'm also near room besides Georgia, looking at it to play that in the first part. We just move a lot of guys around. If you watch our practice, we have a lot of guys in there right now. You know, we pop up through a four different guys in there, obviously the ring's holes in there, the main is in there, Caleb. Miles, we have about four or five guys moving around. Right now, we just try things out in spring ball. See what it fit. You know, see what things work together. So it's probably some more guys in there. You know, we move it around to try to just get the right fit throughout the N and C. How it goes by the time we get really start the season.

4:33:32He can run any strong. He's fast, very serious about his business. He's big. It's 200 pounds. He can run. He's strong. He's conscientious. You know what I mean? He's starting to grow and he's starting to get better with it. You know what I mean? So we look for big things for him in spring. What do you want to see from here in spring? Keep competing. You know what I mean now? He's made the transition competing today. You know what I mean? Start going in that transition is all just like I'm in germany last year. You throw them in the fire. You let them go. You compete. You go by the time we get out of the end of training camp. You've been them figured out. Yeah, I want that. But now you just throw it all at them. compete. Continuing to grow, continuing to learn. He has the skill set. He has to let. Now you just got to put it all together and it takes time to do that. And hopefully you see that by the time we get in the training camp. It seems like a midwinter springing kind of click for germany last year and you start to see and perform a little better in practice. Is that like a benchmark for where you want here and to be by the middle of spring? Does he have to be at a certain point where you want it to start clicking? Yeah, by the time you start getting about two weeks from now that last week, you know,

4:34:34it takes time because there's a lot of stuff going on. But you know, by the time you get into that last week of spring ball, you look to start seeing the things that you look for show up. And then you know, you get another evaluation again. We'll get into training camp. See if this stuff carried on to make sure we go up for starting in September. What's your assessment of the growth that we've made now that he's kind of got a skew under one defense? What do you like about him and that knickles? He's very conscientious. He's smart. He can run. He's tough. He's made the adjustment because he's out of Europe on his belt. So now you can see he's not making a lot of mistakes. He competes. He's real conscientious and he has a physical presence. So the growth has been really good and we look to continue that throughout spring coach. Thank you very much. I can ask one more. All the guys that came back like Denzel, the great example. That surprised you as you reflect on all these guys that came back late for ransom. They could have turned bro. No, the culture here is real. Coach Day does a great job of building the culture. Our room is close knit. The guys on defense are real close. Those guys want to come back. They have an agenda.

4:35:36You know, we want to come back. They want to come back and walk away with something. So it didn't shock me. But it's a good environment for them too. You know, I mean, that's when you see those guys come back. That's a testimony to the culture that's set here. Their brotherhood, their environment. And I coach Day runs the program for those dudes to want to come back. Because we go in it. It's hard. It's not easy. It's not easy. But what we do. So, in fact, they come back and do that as a testimony to how he runs the program. Coach, thank you very much. As far as intensity, how would you evaluate your games tonight? Yeah. My goal was just to come out play as hard as I could. It was a little weird last week for the first time in my career playing a game that doesn't necessarily mean anything in terms of playoff. Contention and I kind of had to check myself. And this week come in with a mindset of every game matters. And we need to put the best product out there that we can.

4:36:37And that's what I try to do. Later now, it was a good push. Or you looked at the working question, but you retired. You didn't seem shaken up right after you kind of just talked about what happened. Yes, Sam just tried to get it on it and caught me. It was more of like a stinger type thing. But the ref wanted me to go to the tent. So I had to go answer some questions. How do you handle it? It was like jammed, yeah, my neck. You are helmet. I know that you've got a sort of a different helmet. How do you? Yeah, maybe. When it hits the top like that, it's not as good. But. I think these guys 11 months ago kind of crushed their dreams. Do you get the sense there are a lot of different team or. And also that they. This was a very important game for them to win. I don't think they're that different. I think they've had a ton of injuries on defense, which hurts them. But the mentality of the head coach, you could see it throughout everybody.

4:37:41It's really a cool team. I could. Just see from afar that it's probably a fun team to play for. And. They've they've come out and they played a win every game and I respect that. But so much emphasis on the ball. All meetings take away. And I think you got to since the by week. Is there any accounting for that? I mean, is there so many different things that go into a turnover or take away? How do you track your brand around? It goes into every level of the defense. When you have your opportunity, I know we had two against. Stafford. That could have made. I mean, if maybe if we get those, it sparks a bunch of other ones. So. You just have to make your. Make your plays when they're there and then. Just be in being the right spots. And I don't think we've done a great job of that this year. You're. Last night, most of the night, the soul is all pro.

4:38:41Did you want that matchup? Would you would you think about that matchup? It's good. He's a really good player and. Yeah, I wanted to see where I'm at against him. Have you ever seen anything like the Jameson Williams touched out? It's pop act to him and you see something like that or. I was in the tent. So I had no idea that happened. It was a play in this game. I was off a kind of a misdirection sprinted all the way across the field to make the play. Did you see the play and. I think it was it the one gives cut back. Yeah, I had like a 10 yard. Cushion and he ran by me like I was didn't exist. And I tried to sprint and I just just like I don't have this. And thankfully Mustafa is a heat seeking missile and. And he made the play. But your mindset tonight was always your mindset against man.

4:39:43I mean, I mean, I think we came in with the right mindset as a team. Just myself. It felt a little like dead energy wise. But yeah, it was a learning. A moment for me to learn and make sure that I come in with the right mindset every single week. There's a lot of plays where you guys can get in the halls past breakups. And it will be like a couple plays in the row. And then there's next close of about. What can you believe in or on about the ecosystem? Yeah, I mean, we did we did get them to the second, third and longs. And then yeah, they would make a big play and. You definitely want to capitalize when you when you back them up like that. We didn't do that tonight. And that's why they scored 40 points. I'm sure yeah, I'm sure.

4:40:50Oh, yeah, for sure. You guys like Chris Carter. Guys like Michael Thomas really new to guys for sure. I mean, Michael Thomas was talking to me before the game or the Rose Bowl in Chris Carter and after the game as well. I mean, just giving me advice. Just tell me keep going first and just keep doing what I've been doing the whole year. I mean, I'm got bugger. I legend. So definitely look at them. God for sure. Make sure to spare. It means a lot of me just to care for Miami. I'll be able to play an actual championship as a freshman. I'll send it out. Dreamed up as a kid. And I'm here now and is okay. Okay, can't wait to put on a show Monday. He said again.

4:41:54I mean, the Tissot know like he says, made crazy each and every week playing. But you know, can't let it get to my head. I should say, let me just football at the end of the day, but you know, just have to be in this position. Okay. Oh, none of us think we could be covered, man. Oh, man, we're actually talking about this yesterday as well. But you know, I mean, that's what they do. That's what they do. I mean, we just got God there. You know, play our game and know certain reason why not to play man. Two. Four.

4:42:54Three. One. I go five. It's fair. The problem. My mom said, you know, just go out there Monday. Just dominate the person I said, front of me. You know, just do what I've been doing for the last two to three weeks, I should say. But you know, they play man on man. So I'm just ready for the challenge. Yeah. I mean, feels good. Just say somebody going out there and playing on man on man gets Ohio State receivers. It's something crazy. But you know, we just ready for the challenge. They say they're not chasing their game play, but we got to go out there and show them the reason why not to play man on man.

4:43:58Yeah. I mean, I don't really, if I be on the curve, I'd be on the curve. I mean, it's not really a big deal to me. I mean, it definitely be a blessing for sure just to be on the cover of a game. But you know, it's not really a dream of it. It's a dream of mine, but I don't really think too much of it. Yeah. I mean, no, not yet. Probably hit me after this easy. No, just no playing in the colors football playoffs as a freshman, planning the roles, both as a freshman, planning the card and both not in the national championship. I mean, it's a blessing for sure, but it haven't hit me yet. Sure. My favorite catch, I would say we play Michigan State.

4:45:00The one I caught over two defenders, definitely probably my favorite for sure. Or you could go the one from Iowa, as I said, and then answer pardon them too. Sure. I mean, like you said, it's pretty frustrating me having the game that I had in the Rose Bowl. They're coming to the Cotton Bowl, just doing different things, chasing their scheme up against me. But I mean, like you said, whatever I could do to make the, I mean, hug the team when. It's not really a big deal for me. As long as we win, that's all I really care about. And it got us to national championship.

4:46:08It means a lot. We put a lot of work in this, this is it. We have highs, we have lows, we have people cutting us out. But we hear now, we just ready to put on a show Monday. Oh, yeah. Yeah. First of all, there's national championship because there means a lot. I mean, you see everything that he's been through this year, people saying he should be fine. And this is the third. But I mean, you see everything that he's been through this year. I mean, I see everything I've been through this year. I see everything. People saying my head on Twitter. I wasn't here. He first got the head coach job. But I know this year for sure, we definitely got to win this for him. I mean, it's a lot, a lot of people in the league, I should say.

4:47:11I can't really say who, but I mean, you had guys like Odele, you had guys like Odele. You had Stefan Diggs. It means a lot of Michael Thomas, Chris Carter, just a lot of guys that played in NFL and stuff like that. But yeah, really them guys for sure. Just keep going. You got it. You've next up for sure. Really, I really, really that for sure. Yeah. So they said. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

4:48:11Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm excited for Will. Him. First coming here in Ohio State January our first workout we had together. I mean, just everything that we did through the season. I mean, I'm just happy for him to be in this position right now, but we got a financial job and that's the winner Nadi Omande. I mean, it's pretty funny. Them saying that because I'm just only a freshman, but I miss the blood for sure. I mean, I'm just not even able to even say that, but I got two, three more years left for callers. And I'm just focused on cards right now. And I'm not really worried about the NFL right now. So, he's a very special for me. Just being the first man. Plenty of national stage up here for National titles.

4:49:12Something that I dreamed of as a very young kid. I'm just happy to be here and I just can't wait to put on some Monday for you guys. something that I dreamed of as a very young kid. I'm just happy to be here, and I just can't wait to put on some Monday for you guys. I mean, all of a sudden, we just sit on the bench, and we just see him hit the quarterback, come out, and we all just got up and just started jumping up and down. We all decided, happy for Jack and I moment, and we just knew that that mama like, yeah, we're going to the adipo show. So I'm going to have to go on a state champion and then back with myself. Yeah. So like left and forth and he wasn't going to hit it. He had to use the high school and he didn't need that school champion. I'm just happy to have that one on the set and then back with the kids. Did that share the most thing? Ministers a lot, I mean, going from high school,

4:50:15when the three state championships, Shamanama Donna, then coming to Ohio State, just competing for National Childe right now, and me just showed that I picked two great schools. But I'm happy to be here and just came with the Pooner Show Monday. The coolest person. I mean, you got a lot. I can't really say just a specific person. He had a lot of great guys, Richard and Alie. Odell, you had guys like Stefan Deakes. A lot of other players were just getting cut off my mom. But really, really them two guys, for sure, Odell, a Stefan Deakes. You're looking at every day, but something that you got out of your mind is trying to attack and try to dominate it. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, like they say, they play man. So I mean, I'm just ready for the challenge and just get ready to go out there Monday. And just no putting a show. Thank you. Okay.

4:51:30The Vice Geno high gave me, I said, just keep golfers. I know the reason why I'm here. I mean, like you said, just keep golfers and just don't keep choreographing the main thing I'm not a face this year. Um, I mean I face a lot of great corners. I can't really say but yeah I face a great lot of great corners. Here really put a name on it. I'm not a face this year. I mean I face a lot of great corners. I'm not a face this year.

4:52:34I say both respect and frustration as well. But I mean I doubt they come out there and try to put to me and they say stick it to what they been doing all year and that's playing man covers which is ready for the challenge. Pretty good group. Christian Gary 29 is a great corner. 15. I mean I'm not more two great guys are right there. Very physical but you know we all highest they received us so we ready for the challenge. I'm saying just no understanding the defense. Understanding the game plan.

4:53:36Understanding what coach Kelly is trying to get done. I mean just coming in I felt I progress from our first game gets accrued and now feel like I better each and every week. I mean things slowed down a lot for me. But yeah really just no understanding the differences and no understanding what they're trying to do to me for sure. I'm two guys great part of the best we go see all year for sure. Two physical guys but you know we're ready we're ready for the challenge that they're coming with and that's the play man no man and you know we ready to go on Monday. Yeah I mean environment is pretty crazy seeing all these cameras. I never thought I'd see them alive but it's a blessing for sure this is the main in this position right now.

4:54:39I mean we just had a prayer prayer prayer prayer meeting and you know we all they all this we all discuss the issues because they discuss issues and you know which is what the work. I mean that two and a half weeks we had off before Tennessee game and we just came out there on Tennessee game and we played with a chip on our shoulder all throughout the playoffs and we go continue to play with that chip on our shoulder and that's the championship on Monday. Do you know how that very impactful yeah the very impact on my career I should say just going to his games as a very young kid seven eight years old him playing Westwood here in the West Virginia they played Clemson Orange Bull down in Miami. I mean just going to see his games it's like yeah I definitely want to play on this stage and I can't wait till I get to know that moment for sure.

4:55:41I'm sorry. I was gay because they really just in his own his own love space he's just walking around trying to get his mind right trying to get his mind ready for the game but you know he just get everybody hype in the locker room and you know just trying to get us ready to go to win the game. Oh yeah oh yeah for sure I mean you go play man against Ohio State receivers I mean just be ready because you know we definitely go come out there and know give our best and I mean they said not go change what they do so we just ready for the challenge. I'm not a year later definitely sometime my career in college but not my first in college

4:56:48I should say I mean just the better the being is position right now it's you know a blessing just to get here from Miami to be here and I want to take up for granted I'm ready to go out there and thank you for my role. Yeah I mean I was watching that game against Georgia I believe yeah I was watching that game I was pretty sick myself because I was actually committed at that time so I mean yeah they left a bad taste in them all but I mean we ready to go out there Monday to redeem myself and they'll just put a show Monday. Oh I mean me I just laugh but you know that's what they do they're not going to change

4:58:03what they do just because we're Ohio State so I'm just gonna go out there and put it on why not to play man on man it gets us so we just got to go out there and show them Monday. He said again I'm sorry. My journey here at Ohio State prepared me a lot for not just shaping shit me just going through everything that I've been through and I first got here all the Matt Jules all the hard work guys that we had all the hard practices me just preparing all of this for this moment and I'm just ready to go out there and give it up my all on Monday. Okay okay yeah we just squeezed this. 209.

4:59:06200? Me he is big and strong. Yeah. Yeah, I'll go. What's your name? What's your name? That's pretty good. No problem. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, yeah. Yeah.

5:00:08Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, I mean, just well put in a ball in my area and I just know how to make a play for Even though somebody was gathering my face, I just know I still had to make a play because the ball touched my hands. So, I mean, just when the ball and the other thing, I had to make the play no matter how the ball comes at me. After a big game, I mean, they really feed us Chick-fil-A or piece out of the game. Just really eat a Chick-fil-A or piece out of the game. So, yeah, probably Chick-fil-A, for sure. Yeah.

5:01:21It went pretty good. Everybody just speaking with their thing is going right in what they think is wrong. We just lot of older guys, Western Europeans, what we need to do to come together as a team. But, you know, that need and definitely helped us in a big way because it helped us on the field as well because we're playing our great football right now. And we just got to see you that one Monday. Yeah, it definitely got emotional. I can't really say what it really was said because that's not players only and coaches only. But, it was definitely some stuff said that people took, people took and that's the reason we planned it. We're out of the plan right now. Yeah, make help me a lot this year. Him being our older guy in the room. Me and Carl Nell as well, Ann Brennan, and all the guys in our city room as well.

5:02:22Me just a great guy as well. It's very smart. I mean, make just been a big part of the reason that I'm having a seat that I'm having a look. Because he's been a big, you know, older guy been there, been a lot of great guys in that room. Like Chris Alive, Gary Wilson, Marvin Harrison Jr. Jackson, Smith and Jibble. So he's seeing all the greats I've been through there. And me teaching us the right thing and the right way and the buck out way for sure. I was feeling like it's a much more like a white and white seat. I'm just getting the other options. Did you feel underrated? I was really not. I feel like I was really not right. I mean, some actors just got me different. I mean, I just feel like I had all the offers I think I'm going to win. You know what I mean? I had fucked down like a hurting work size. So it doesn't matter if you get hearing notes, I'm going to stop or I'm going to. What was it like to make that exception? You know, I felt good. You know, I'm actually feeling all the hard work and I do that spring. I'm teaching at Kouji. You gave me notice paid off. I didn't know this right.

5:03:22I was playing with Kouji. They give the two deep as a true freshman. I was late for the new, the knowledge and opportunity to have a bigger role this year. So what do you expect going into a second? You know, I just worked to beat. I was seeing, I was seeing, I'll be running, you know, whatever, what you're having to say, just whatever. I'm just working, just to beat, you know, work my tail off, make a role for my sanction. I can trace physical here. I got a lot more residue, not gay. I gave some weight now. I'm pushing 200 pounds now. And I'm just not having any. Coach Patricia, what have you seen for the David now? He's a great guy. You know, I like him. He's an off-no-size coach. He's a great guy. He cares about his players. I was so football wise. He's a master in the United Hines. He's a well respected given football business. He's a good person. You know, in his time being at a family, so I think he's going to fuck you. Was there, was there a time to start a occasional piece of what? What's he going to expect to see from this?

5:04:22Jail of the plane and in his bail. I'm not expecting, you know, just to add value, you know, form a half of the team into the midways. You feel a lot more popular this year. Where you last year? Oh, yes, for sure. I feel like I'm starting to use to everything here. And I feel like I'm just trying to pull off my new last year. I'm just not having a thing to make a role with my players. What? I was going to say, you know, my mindset at the beginning was growing, starting to scratch in a way, not letting too much of the shadow of the rest of the team. How does the team really embrace that mindset and see competitive that mindset? You know, you know, we have more ideas, you know, so far so, you know, we're trying to stay determined. And I know just trying to dominate. And we're not learning the past anymore. It's like it never happened to the China another one. The coach has got to venture their head in the A and B. You're going to have a beer. The rules are going to go in, and you have to get to the position. Well, obviously, you know, right now, playing in the starting game for the state, you're just trying to, you know, crack myself and just, you know, make myself my versatile for the team.

5:05:22Wherever I go. I think it's going to get some more last part of it. That was bad. I think limiting his reps. Right, obviously, he's living in like a playoff. So, you know, obviously, I mean, the biggest no. And to him, you'd be wearing a line that does a lot of work. You know, I mean, skipping, skiing better. Thank you. Appreciate you. You know, I'm going to be in the line. So, like, there's some stuff, at least we, you did over there in order to aim that we'll see if we're able to kind of implement something here. I'm sure some, maybe not others, depending on what our guys do best. I probably saw about CJ because it's like, it's a fresh start. I knew I said, eyes on him. And I think it's an opportunity to be multiple and use him. And what he does best, you know, or so. That's the exciting thing. You know, when you really studied what coach Patricia has done in the past, is he likes to take like, who are, like, who are our players? And then let's build it around those nights. And I think CJ has had a hell of a winner. I think he's one of those guys. So, I'm excited to see how we create up a newsroom.

5:06:23The interesting thing. Does that mean you see how to be like, float as more of an edge defender? Kind of differently than you guys do? I think, yeah, I think he has that, I think that's exactly what kind of like, potential CJ has, it's the ability to, you know, get on the edge, move around. The nice thing about that is, is that you're not handicapped just with CJ, doing one thing off the edge. You think you have the ability because he understands consensually, zone drops, linebacker terminology, right? You can get really creative with how you use him. But I think he definitely needs to be utilized more as a, just go to the heart of America, go, go beat and disrupt this. What's happening? See you about me and your feet. Don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I'm not a Monday, I'm not a Monday. What about Matt? Is the leader of you guys' coaches? I'm not you. I see all the fit with you guys. And how are you seeing that? How do you feel about the higher foot? I love the higher. I've had a lot of respect for Coach Patricia.

5:07:23I've never since he worked me a Marcus out back here. And what we were talking about that we first was, and the interview process is kind of how fast time goes. But I'm really excited just to continue to learn. Like I said, like there's some, it's funny because there's some terminology that when I was at Notre Dame, you can use, and I can at least speak some of his language with what he's called things before. And you're trying to morph everything together right with these things that we've done. What he knows, what we do, it's a lot. But he's been incredible with, I think the staff he's very organized, he's detailed. You'll have constant, clear communication. You know, and they're, hey, we're going to get together at this time of year. And you're just efficient in your role. And it's been a lot like when you're come from outside and you come back into it, and you have to try to catch him up on the recruiting board. And you know, like you have a lot of these conversations. Okay, what are we looking for at these positions now? How do you see it? Because you don't under one coordinator, you might see a,

5:08:23the mic line back, it needs to be this. And under this coordinator, well, I think the mic back needs to be this. So you have to have those conversations at every position. And you just kind of keep going through. And I'm just excited to learn. I think the more systems, I mean, look, play the system here in college, play the system underneath the Magnolo, play the system in Tim Walden, play the system under Greg Williams, Dennis Allen, Coach of Galagol, and Jim Nalt. Like every one of those, there's like different terminology for everything. So you're just, you're learning a different language, Colin Think. You know, I mean, there's his concepts. And I think he was kind of collect over time. What you think is really good stuff and how you do stuff a big deal of different. I'm just really excited to learn from that. I'm telling you success. He seemed very excited over there talking over the year. Yeah. Focusing college, whatever. So long. What's his personality like with you guys? Yeah. He's been great. I mean, his energy is incredible. He's very, he is.

5:09:23He's authentically excited to be back in Cultural Ball. He could tell there's like a yearning to get back to like the, why you got the coaching, right? It's the impact. You know, people's the impact and teach the game of football. And so the future has been a front, you know, kind of like talking to the guys. You can sense like he's excited to just teach ball. You know what I mean? And kind of ironically, like, you know, sip a little hot, put the things that chips that last year, right? You got to get back and you're like, man, I'm just excited to. And so if he has that excitement, he's done a phenomenal job, I think, of getting to know the players. Just kind of like walking around versus like popping in, making sure that he's in front of them and they get to know him and you get to know them. And it's a lot. You can imagine when you come in and you have all these guys, right? And trying to learn all these guys, I'm learning recruiting, trying to learn to staff, trying to learn dynamics, like it's a lot. But he's handled it really well. You know, he's an old school ball coach, he's a grinder. So he's really good job.

5:10:23James, son, he's probably not going to need to do much this spring. How much more can you get down with the young guy? You're not going to have to jump in the young guy. But in terms of right there, he said, you know, thank you for saying 75% or whatever. How much more can you get down with the young guys when they're not worried too much about the senior? Yeah, I think, I mean, you're always just looking for competition, especially like in spring ball, and that's what it's all about, right? You're trying to have it so cliche, but it's true. Like the iron sharpens iron mentality of you want your run to be super competitive. To where, hey, the guy in front of me makes a play. My next set of four plays I go out there. I have the on point, right? And it's a constant driving of the room forward. So, yeah, son, he gets 50 or how many reps, reps off 50% of the coach said. And that means more opportunity for somebody else to play, right? So that need more for our values, that scheme flexibility with our value. And then pay pierce around it. It's that TJ Riley, you like all these guys stove.

5:11:26We're all going to get more rutsch. I think it's great. It's what you got to do at this point in the season. But I think you'll, yes, there's still stuff that within all of a sudden is that he's going to be. Clon to try to get those reps because he's a true pro. And that's been the most enjoyable thing about working with him is like. You get a kid who's played safety his whole life comes to the back yard. He just wants to learn the why behind everything. And, you know, very similar to the fact of Cody, like, would you have guys who are that easy to work with? You're not trying to like, not worried about texting anybody in our room about coming over and trying to learn ball. You know what I mean? Like, were you at, you know, like, their obsessed with the game of football. They're always around when they're not at class. So it's like, it makes it really easy as a coach because they're passionate for the game. It's so strong. And I see today in terms of the higher with the map, just looking sunny, like, what do you envision more with him with all of that stuff? I think, I think we just have a lot of guys with a lot of links.

5:12:27We talk about sunny styles long run, our values long run. It's crazy because you see sunny. They're like, okay, this guy, like, I wish I was built like that when I played. And then you see our Val stand next to sunny. You know what I mean? And so like, and then you look across the room, like, as the room warms up, you're like, holy smokes. Like, we just have a bunch of guys and that's a lot of credit to make coach make as a phenomenal job. I was just talking to Burm about it, like, to see even our media guys what they look like when they showed up during the bowl of the whole natty run. And they're kind of hanging out during practice. And you see the high school bodies to see what they look like today before they go away. And like, the shoulders are all like everything is just different. And they've been indoctrinated into the brotherhood. So I think, you know, there's just a lot to work with. So what he's really good at right is like, he's talked about it.

5:13:29One year he has junior say, oh, we'll get a smite for able, you know, Roosevelt, Colvin, and those guys. And then a couple of years later, he has brand of spikes. So he's like, okay, I just put his blitz brand in the middle all the time. So he's 260 pounds and a beast. He always says he was my best nose guard from Mike backer, right? And then the year after that, he gets, you know, got Jamie Collins and Dante high talent. So now we can do a lot of stuff, right? So they're not just like, hey, this is what we're doing. We got plenty of blood. And he's like, hey, here's what we got. Let's utilize it. So that's what strength will be. While going the lab and figure out what that means, I'm sure through spring ball, there'll be like, hey, here's what we do really well. I just do it because this unit is going to be different. Right? You know, there's a lot of production. So you know, it will be different. So you kind of got to reform your own identity. You ever heard that civil bullet nickname and mantra. How many of you guys can look at our bell and just seem like he's on a very good track. Is that a way to describe it?

5:14:29What's his ceiling? It's how he's going to start a barbell. It's just a lot. But right now he's locked in. He's done a great job becoming a leader. Coming out of his shell. I think, you know, I think for the belly, it's all about his just to see it just preparation. And I'm proud of our bell, you know, he's through the season. You got way better at, you know, a lot of it's like little things. Just note taking stuff. Like sometimes these kids are always on their phones and stuff. Not like the meeting rooms or anything like that, but just naturally. So like to get out of pen and paper and like, you hear things. And I mean, yeah, I got it. What you do until your dog tired and then you forget. You know what I mean? But when you really understand it, you know what I mean? Like go play faster. You got so much better through the year. Just a lot of that's because of Cody, like becoming a pro. And then now it's like Sonny's pulling him along. He's pulling pain along the pain to fall into DJ and Riley and Eli. So I didn't still like. So I kind of love the competition right now. And the way it's made up. Yeah, that was on his own great path. How many different guys do you feel like can be a man Mike's spot?

5:15:32Appreciate that. Obviously, losing Cody and now having that. You know, I think that's something that's fluid as we kind of go. Because, you know, week one Sonny actually started out Mike for us. And Sonny smart enough to play them all. Our bell is smart enough to play them all. Here's a smart enough to play them all. And that's also like how do you like depends on what what scheme you're running. Where they how do they be utilized as well? You know what I mean? So you say my like my backer, you know, whether it's Tommy, I can very grow up. Real reasons for different people and Cody's different than those two. So. I challenged to like a lot of the guys that come in. So you got the other both the more you understand about the scheme in general. The faster you will play, you know what I mean? Like if I just sit here and I say, Hey, I got a lot of Mike. My drop is this and that's all I need to know. Like, well, no, football happens so fast and all the shifts and motions that like. If you're out there just playing and you're waiting for a call.

5:16:34And you're reacting like you're so worried about what's going on on your side of the ball. You don't even recognize that the offense is telling you something's what they're doing. So. If I'm out there and also I'm not getting a call, I know what the call should be. It's like, Hey, are we playing? You know, let's go. Now listen, you get it. You can look. I can see OK. Here's what the tight ends doing. That's the best doing. Here's what plays are coming. If you just line up and play as a runner pass every time. Like you know, stay in chance. You got to eliminate plays in your mind by seeing what the offense is doing. Like they tell you a story every time they line up. They just window dressing. People motion and chance to try to get a man's own indicators and they're trying to make sure that. They're getting the same formation. They're on the same place. But they just shift the people and the emotion and they move and they don't want you to recognize. So for always worried about what work you don't mean. So the more you know. Faster you can play. You're not sitting there thinking, Oh, what do I have for you? You're reacting. So I know you have so much challenge to guys like. There's always a no both. So I think a lot of just beyond. On depth of sure guys get, you know, if the sun is only doing 50 to 75% of the place. And probably more guys get more will reps than they had because we need.

5:17:38More will bodies. That's technically where sun is started. But. Rotate them through. Let the production kind of show what it does. And. Sometimes you know, you'll live with some of the stakes just from. Did a news spot that you'll be able to judge to like who's actually. Getting the book. You know, I mean, who's actually studying. How much of a break have you seen from sunny this time of year ago? Through the national championship game. And then what's next? Man, I mean, definitely. I know I know sunny has big goals and you should. I do as well for him and. To see how far he's come. You know, first thing kind of stands out is just like his. His footwork has gotten so much better. You know, when you're in the box with a linebacker, you got to be able to. Remember loop thickly say all the time and you got to be slow until it's time to be fast. And when you're twitchy like he is. A lot of times you know, when you're about safety or you're used to pulling a trigger and rolling. You got to learn how to shuffle and not cross over.

5:18:39And he got so much better as a year or not. Think a lot of people question whether he'd be able to hold up his cowdy wise and you know, he was. He was great. You know, he's the season guy. He's really good with his hands. He's a really natural ability to snag. We'll keep challenging him. I think he should be a dominant guy in coverage. He needs to be a guy that we can put on a tight end and be like, he's not going to be in touch on the ball. You know, because he has that athleticism. I think we need to challenge him there. Challenge him. I think everything is just. This is not just sunny. It's everybody's urgency in zone coverage. I mean, the urgency with you have to break on the football to close that space. Not at the ball carrier have so much space on you to cut making this is critical. I think sometimes he's he can be so athletic that you know, you can get away some stuff. And he knows anything that I'm saying right now, hearing notes. So the best part is a lot of times like he'll come to me before film and already say that man coach on that play. I should have you know what I mean? Like he knows. And the best part is that he's humble enough.

5:19:40Our whole room is that they just want to be they want to be pushed and they want to be coached. And so the thing that could be asked for right like. So like how is that? Like what do you need for me? Just just keep making sure like you're pushing it. Don't let me settle. Let me settle. So he's probably the best room at that. You look at sunny and our bell. It's kind of your top of the skies right now. Yeah, I mean, I think going into it, you know, I think it's just accomplished the plan and whatever play was called, whatever maybe just go out there and execute it. One thing we appreciate is execution is really the motive. You know, I didn't get me called, but as long as everybody's mindset is has one mentality, which is just go get it and you know, make sure there's no yard gain. I think that changes the mindset of everybody on the civil bullie defense. Did they feel like big changes to you all as they were ongoing? I mean, I first like, you know, it was a tough loss. So, you know, I think it felt like everything was big. But then when you kind of just take your time to look at everything and analyze everything, it was just like, man, we just we just need to keep everything simple.

5:20:45Make everything and just just just about us and you know, not like feel like we're making everything about them. It's, you know, we can dictate what they do. And I think that was the mindset. Did it make Letterman Raw? Yeah. JT, I know you get to watch a little bit of video of Caleb and Nathan and Jordan. What stands out about that group from your vantage point? Oh, they're respected. They're relentless, man. I mean, Nathan, Caleb and I mean everybody in that BIA core, yes, they could cover, but you know, when it's time to, you know, stop the run, they'll come down 12 yards out. However, however, however far after for the line of scribes and coming, you know, those are the nose in there and I respect them for that because there's going to be times where we need them to make them tackles. And I mean, they're displaying it this whole season. Yeah, how critical are they in a game of this magnitude? Obviously, everybody's critical, but you're going to mean that sort of the last line of offense, but sometimes the last line of offense is in the middle of it. Yeah, I mean, they play a huge role. I mean, like you said, it takes everybody from the front four. It's like a check reaction. The front four don't do their job, then you know, falls, you know, the back end.

5:21:47So we off to work as a collective unit. And I think there's a reason that there's 11 of us out there. And you know, it's crazy if one person is doing their job, then you know, something can go wrong. But if we just all continue to stay communication with one another, continue to just lay each other up. We have each other's backs and just trust one another. And man, I think that performance is going to be off the charts. Over the right billion.