Press Conference (Lorenzo Styles Jr.) Elite Edition September 2

0:00When they gave me the all clear to start that week, and then in the game there was like a critical third down. I had to go make a play and I did that. So from there, I think my trust started to go with the program. I thought really like the long journey of my career, I thought it would be at cornerback. And I had a lot of trust in coach wall and I had a lot of trust in like what Ohio State does with DB. So I was just I thought it should be the best for them to ever meet. How much do you lost after the study being closed at home, my brother here, that's definitely a plus. But I had to think about like the longevity of my career, like need playing with studies. Not necessarily going to help me get to the NFL. So I had to think about what was going to be best for me there. I think a lot about the program that there's a lot of similarities in between both programs. One thing that I really think about or I was thinking about like before coming doing this, we used to do like tug of war there. So going to get some of the guys that swung on matchups in this game is kind of like that tug of war. This is going to be some of the metham swings and we just like when they blow the whistle out there,

1:00we got to make sure we're pulling it to our side. They asked me a couple questions, but that was more so last year. I know they have a new off the coordinator from OSU. So the team is a little bit different from when I was there. But yeah, there's definitely some questions being asked. It wouldn't seem a lot different with running in a good corner that kind of thing. You got to laugh here. Yeah, he could run the ball for sure. I think his physicality, his athleticism, his toughness shows up on the tape. There's going to be a lot of plus one runs, which makes it hard extra having the box after defending that. I think he really, he's a big leader on that team, not saying the other quarterbacks weren't, but he's really a driving force for that offense to go. Very now, he's a decent size. He has really good size. He shows some Twitch on film. So I was there with him as well, so I'm excited to go with that matchup. I'm doing this when I really think about it, like legacy is a bit like really comes to mind.

2:02My dad being here, my brother being here. And then this team's growing, I think it's a really faith-based team. So I just want to give a lot of credit to G-Scratch. Just for me, this is an opportunity to be on this team, be able to do this today. I don't even want to talk about this season, being honest. Me and Jack have been friends since we were seven years old, playing basketball. And he helped my competitive edge really increase. So when we were on the court, he's always talking stuff, always getting our guys rallied up then. And then he helped me get better when I'm younger. Because when you're younger, the people you surround yourself with that really helps. Just help you form who you are. And he played a really big part in that. Just always pushed me to the best self and hopefully I did the same for him. I mean, yeah, it's more like NFL season, a little bit less, but it starts to add up on your body. So good thing about Ohio State, we have death here. So when guys needed to step up, like when I had my opportunity to see the D-line,

3:06multiple positions, they really need to step up. We've had the guys to do that. So, they're staying healthy and really trying to take it over the whole season. That means a lot of Pairginton. We all played like childhood sports together. So I think it just goes like the community that I was surrounded in, and then type of parents. That mindset just like really pushing their kids to be great. And I hope that continues on Pairginton. I would have to say either JT, Sonny, I feel bad for you to be my boy Jack, but JT or Sonny? I mean, I feel like that's easy to say, yeah, just because he was like the number one player in the country coming out of high school. So like the expectations have always been high. But it's hard as like a eight-year-old to even envision like him being like making that play that he did. But we always knew we were going to play at a high level together.

4:07And we talked about that since we were really young. Originally, we talked about playing at Ohio State together. And now we're here though. But so like my freshman year, when we both, freshman sophomore year, when we were in Crude, Ohio State, we mean him or visiting like every other week together. So really just seeing the vision, seeing what he talked about and being a man of his word, just going to come show it, what he did. I honestly wasn't even thinking about Notre Dame because there was so much going on in the program at the time, like the real folks just on being Tennessee. So to be here in this time, my girlfriend goes Notre Dame, a lot of my family, like just a lot of connections between Notre Dame and Ohio State for me. So I just know it's going to be a good match up to everyone's excited for. I did talk to him, but those were conversations were short. Later, the total can't be talking to the enemy for too long. She went for Ohio State.

5:07She should, we actually got a conversation about this. So she should be in Ohio State if anyone sees it. Oh, it was a little difficult. There was a little bumpy, but we got our Ohio State side for sure. Yeah, no, my mom and dad, they don't have to split. There's just anything like that, Ohio State should be at this game. Yeah, I'm on the outside, but I've always kept in touch with my players there, like some of my friends and current players there. So I want to credit a lot of that to Coach Freeman. The program, like when I was there, they were some tough losses that were taken. So they were definitely needed some change to be made. And he did that. And I think this formatting with the 12 team playoff helped us, but it really helped them as well.

6:12Yeah, Notre Dame was a little bit different just because it's already rooted in their tradition. So here, guys, that really had to step up and really kind of be vocal about it. And I just think it was like the most important, just because in our sport, like you have to have a reference point. And if your reference point is miss Bayshire, it's just measured on your success on the field. How much NIL money you're getting, things with that nature. It's easy to go up and down. So find out that reference point within the Lord. How's it got this team study? You have a few that's been playing with the team that's been playing with you. So yeah, I mean, I feel like Coach Freeman. I say a lot of it is because he got us a high estate roots. But now, honestly, Coach Freeman, when he first came, the team they really took him in when I was at Notre Dame. I remember him first coming in the locker room vividly, and everyone in the team jumped up. And there's another thing that sticks out to me before every single practice. He'd daped up every single player in line. So he's a really player coach.

7:12And I just want to say, he works real hard. I just saw the dedication he had, how much he cared about the program, the players, and being that Notre Dame man. So I have a lot of respect. Yeah, a lot of their successes. Yeah, I understand, but I'm not sure on that level, unlike how much he's matured. But I saw the bricks being laid for sure while I was there. How much you were trying to do? Oh, yeah. I had a long talk with Algon while I was a defense coordinator, and he really wanted me to stay. But I kind of already had my mind made up, and I was ready to enter the portal, and I'm finding a better fit for myself. Yeah, that was the conversation as well. Appreciate it. Thank you. Just a matter of continuing to do that in a different moment. Very good. That's what you did. Did you get a 4-3 guy? Well, you know, 4-3, you know, you take a 4-3, everybody's shoes confused, and I'm a 4-3 guy, but really, you know, when you take a 4-3, you take the end and stand them up,

8:13you can slide to a 3-4 just like that. And that's multiple defense, but I'll change it any person now. And so it's a 4-man brunch, but we can go to a 3-man, a 4-man, a 5-man, 6-man, and the hard people. The guy's on the field, so I think that, we've been multiple, but we can keep standing still, 4-man front, but it can be an interchange before you're 5-6. Yeah, listen, so I'm going to call it some edits. How you look at it, everybody can say it's 4-man front, 4-man front, not really when you cannot just do the pieces. The 4 guys can stay in the field, and you can pop JT or pack KJR, and I see another one that's going to go 3-4. But it's a 4-guys on the field playing. That's been in the game, and then so I think that we can kind of lose how we can play deepness now, because you can't substitute every play to get a new personal. So those guys can be the play for a 4-man, to the 3-man, or whatever. That's what you have to be ready to do then. Do you think you'll have more opportunities to coach CJ JT? This year is what would you envision for a role for them? Well, he's wifting right now. So CJ is wifting right now, trying to learn how to play the position. And then I want him to learn how to play the position

9:14as a T-fus-a-ven stand-up. We get to that moment. And not as a linebacker. I think that's the transition he's mentally. He's got to go through. He's done an outstanding job, thus far, he's bought in to what we're doing. And I think that's the key. When he got buy-ins like this is what I want to do. And he has a really good skill set. So we can use him in the model ways. But we don't want to use him just third down. Right? We want to use him first and second down. So my job is to get him ready to play the one from on the line, which is supposed to be in his space. That's different. And once we have come as we go, then I think we can give him a chance to give him some great depth, and we're really doing some good things for us. I'm excited about him, because he's really excited about the position change. Larry, when you talk about being multiple, how impactful can a guy like CJ be because of his versatility about the standout? Yeah, that's a bonus if you can do that, right? Because it stays on the field. And then you bring it out from space. You can drop him from space or you can pull it to him. And I think that as we go forward, I think we'll try to build that. We just can't build it around one guy. You got to build out what it capable of.

10:14You can do on the field. And so like I said, it's early stage. So it's hard to say this is what we're going to do, because we're just putting it together. And I know that CJ is very happy where he's at. He's saying to have a really good time understanding what we're doing. And so what do the guy goes from there? What did you see last year at that? What did you see from him last year that made you think that he could be impactful? Well, we know he can rush. He's got great speed off the edge. He really can get off the ball. That we know that. Now I can say for his, can he play on a tight end and a six technique and stand it up in a two feet plank? That's the thing you have some already do. Once he master that, they rush stuff will come easy, because today is some of the field. And that's what we try to work on. It's what we can do on it today. We can walk out of spring. Liam feels really good about playing a run and the rush in the classroom. There we go, bonus. And that's the goal. If you're in camp last year, you mentioned Josh McVeath. The guy who's coming down to the top. Yeah. Where did he in the season? And how close do you think he is to be the guy who's going to factor in season? I think as we move forward, I think he has some factor in. I think every guy is factor in right now. Because of the death, right? So we've got some great players.

11:15And now we're going to get these young guys ready to fast. And so we're going to hold hands on the death. Your room typically has guys who start to show it in your team. Yes, if I wanted to. Do you seem like a trucker in your team? Search your near two. And then they get out first thing to see are the interviews. Without Jason, I talked with him a lot. Just didn't seem to come together in your two. How can he kind of make up that get to where you need him? You don't just want to need him to be for your three. Where he's probably more necessary. Yeah, I think Jason's got to play football. He's got to play more football in live situations. Right? So he didn't get a lot of shots playing in games. And so this all season, this is biggest offseason. I've said to him, we're in a conversation. This is a year. This is a time when the process is now built. Now he's got to go. And I think he's ready for that. So I'm looking for great things for him to go forward. He's seen to be in a good space right now. I like where he's at. And so we've got a lot of days to go to him. So I'm very confident. So what do you guess the same thing that comes to will?

12:17Is it injured? I think it's fresh. Yeah. Has it really played a lot of football for you? And what's it to kind of the same thing with him? Or is it a little different with him? A lot different. We changed the position a little bit, trying to find the right fit for him. He went over on three tech to have nose guards. I think we're going to flung a little bit one tech. I am really pleased where he's at right now. He's got strong ways. He's got bigger eyes. Quick inner on that one. So I'm looking forward to as we go into the screen. Football, how he comes out. But so far, so good. I mean, I think he has a chance to help us. Well, he got a Jackson play to good number, Snap. Yeah. Yeah. Plus last year. What does he need to do to be ready to take on a even bigger role than he should? Well, he's got to be a leader, first of all. So that's a role for him. He has not been in. He's going to be a leader in moving the unit. He's so far. He's done a great job doing that. Now he's going to be the guy. He's going to have to demonstrate the production force and move the sick force, the arts and the force and I think he has a chance to do that. Now he's going to play for what he gets to play. So we'll see him more. And I think we'll see his talent come to front. What made you want to bring in Logan George?

13:18And how do you see him fitting into this? Well, you look for a fit, right? And what's the point thing? He fit. Doesn't fit our defense. He doesn't fit our schemes. They fit our culture. That's all important. When you bring a guy to the court, he's got to be a fit. And sitting and talking to him, talking to his family, talking to his coach, was really, really bright. And I raved about him as a player. And then once we sit down and then talk, I felt like he fit our room. He got great crowd. Get him rush. It'll be plays hard. And everything you want to see, you've got to have he has. And so I'm looking forward to seeing where he goes from there. And is there anything you can do from the same hometown as Tommy Toggi? Yeah, same high school. Yeah, there's nothing like Toggi eyes that hope to learn more about Logan. Well, not necessarily about Logan, but I know they coach really well. And the men out there, because the phone and call him, I mean, he gave right years of his a player as a person. And that was the end for me. Because you got to have some information. And then he had coaches just couldn't love him, because he couldn't stop talking about him. He was a player and a person. So when I'm growing up and talking to him, I'm in badness and down. I was pretty good.

14:18What do you need to see from a guy like him that know that that can translate to a high-ost ache? This is like, actually, point literally the top of the sport right now. So how do you know that that's going to translate from FCS? Based on what I've seen thus far, and skill set is there. He's going to translate. Because he's going to translate. Even though I made a huge mistake. No, I was just saying. I just go to translate. I know what you're saying. Like it's a big moment now, right? But he's been a great job. I can tell you that I'm really looking forward to him. And he's been all business. And that's what you want. He's a great leader in a room. He's helping in young guys. But he goes on to feel that he works. And that's what I want. Yeah. There I think is something that probably all of us have talked about at times over the years. So I'll just ask the drink. Was there anything in Jim Gould's time here where his style of defense and your style of defense did not exactly mesh? No. Why do you think we think that? Because you guys think he's a 3-4. You guys looked at his system at Oklahoma and thought that way he's going to bring the jack thing here.

15:20And that's what we thought. And so when you looked at that, you're about to look for a 3-4 defense. Yeah. And when you're getting remembered, we have all these four three guys here. And so you have to change the way you recruit. You got to change the defense scheme set, right? I think we tried jacks or a demonstration. And then as the season went on, and teams were playing offensively, you know, it was predicated to more having four guys in the field and changing up. So it was never way. Like I don't chase stories and lies out there. Because nobody's asking me this question here at the first. But Jim and I had a really great conversation about Warp Warp Warp. There was never a moment where we were going, hey, I don't want the 3-4. There was never that. Is that what's the best fit for our players? How can we get them with the kind of team? And that was always a conversation, I was to this day. The story was made about that. It was a consequence. They were so confident. Maybe because I said, well, I don't know what the jack, I don't know about that time. I don't know what we're going to do to Jack. I knew that we thought Jack, sorry, to say, decision between coach and I, that. Let's get Jack, sorry, back to him as a man.

16:20And that's where we'll let's go to another jack position guy to do it. But we never did it again. We never got back to the show of defense. Is it changed what you do? Not, of course, about it. It's a different scheme and different thing we do. And you got to look by it. In big 10 offense, there's certainly a different way of formations. You get that guy caught in the hall and trying to play that. So this is something. When you get that story, yes. If that story was out there, how much did it bother you? The story was out there that you and those works and not that. You didn't even fight. Here's what I say to you. It doesn't bother me because I know who I am as a man as a person, right? And so I'm never going to chase lies that people were talking about what I did. And I was amazed and I'm getting sentenced of night when I'm used to reading because that's not who I am. And Jim and I had a great relationship and never came down to that. I don't have the ultimate. I was never that. The story got created, which is unfair. But again, created somehow with someone on a podcast. I guess you're going to get a click on something. I don't know. I don't read that song. No, it didn't bother me because I'm not chasing a lot.

17:22I know who I am as a person. I used to be very high in my character. I've been this peninsula on time. And I don't have to go through chairs or ruin the thing by point, right? I have a opinion. I give that opinion. We agree, walk down the room. What we're going to do. We go for it. I think you saw it this season. We played really well. As we did it, we played well as a staff. How much more? How much testimony do you need? Yeah, I start when you think about it, especially the way the defense played down the stretch second half of the year and a play on it. When you think about staff, players, talent, experience, coming in, just what's your evaluation of how do you highest-date defense played on the way to national championships? I think the play light up. I think they're played close as a unit. I've been a lot of proud of what they're doing. And they were on a mission. And they really were a half-duty one-off day. You knew that it was going to change. I mean, as you know, it's a proud ones of coach to see guys play the way they're playing. I mean, everything came to a time in essence. The greatest moment of all, it happened when I was young. And I couldn't be more proud of how they played down the stretch.

18:25And every day, they came to work. Every day, they came to work. Never one moment, where they coached. No, let's go. Let's go. Let's go. I mean, you have to be in the rooms and know and practice and see the Zachos on on. Every day, those guys were preparing for every day. That's why you keep doing that. That's why you... It's fun. Why stop something really long? Because you know that. It's a moment. Like I said before, I said to the young guys, talking about the four guys that are trying. We're doing this with them. They came back for a reason. And we have to give them everything we got to make sure their race is gone. And that was every day in my media. Don't forget why we're doing this. It's why we have to go hard, because of these four guys here. They came back to do this again for us. Hopefully we won the championship. That was my passion. I walked in every single day. I was not going to let those guys down. And that kind of permeated throughout my whole room. And that's where we approach every day, every season, every day. We talked about that. We're not going to leave that. We came personally, because you felt a connection to these four guys that gave you everything they got.

19:26And you felt like you had to give them something bad. And so every day I walked in the room and said, I'm not going to fill you. I'm going to give you everything I got. Everything I got every day, because I want you to be successful. And then last game, walking up to Shio. Tears all over our eyes. You felt they were leaving like, wow, we did it. You just looked at each other and said, we did it. It caused me believe in each other. So probably we followed up on the fourth, three, four, and then we were talking about obviously, you got a lot of guys just walk out the door. Yeah. And the primary reason for why that four, three, four, three, four, three, four, five, kind of made sense. Yeah. With that black's turnover, that's the reason. That's the reason. Are you open to the idea of maybe the front's changed a little bit more in the shirt based on where the depth might be this year? If that were the case. I'm always open and change, because it's all about winning. It's all about putting our kids in the best position to be in. Like, I don't know where just this concept comes out. I'm holding things back. I don't have any way. I just want to be a coach. And whatever you tell me or coach, I'm going to coach. That's the way I am. Just unfortunate that this three, four, four, three doesn't really matter what we play.

20:26As long as we're successful in what we're doing, and put on players in the best position to be successful. That should be the bottom line. To where you're four, three, four, three, five, six doesn't matter. Our players in the best position to play, and it went, that's it. That should have mattered. Because you start getting caught like, we don't do this. And we don't have the personnel to do this. But we still plan it. The star is where I actually can't play the three, four, because it ain't our gun. Right? It can't be that. I think you're a multi-quity fence. And that's what we are. We can find a way to use our players in the best position possible to be successful. I think you have to do that. And I think I've gone to what, six quarters, you've got to coordinate. And so the change is always rewarded. So you have to adapt to the change. But I'm all in. It's going to give us an best position. Our players will play as fast as they can. Whatever you play, I'm all in. So there's no resistance from Coach John. So you've got to be a four-man front. We're going to be able to want to be into personnel fit what we're trying to do. So the last thing I'm going to say, it's not skiing.

21:27It's gym and it's a joke. And so we can talk to scheme all you want, three, four, or even four-year-old. But in the end of the day, if those guys are front and guys are back at, or we're all on the same page, it's the most possible defense. Is that same approach? Does that same approach relate to rotation? No doubt. No. Never going to change. So you don't have a particular question for Coach John. How much do you want to rotate? I do. I go into the game with the idea of Zach what I want to do. Who will rotate? Who's ready? It's not necessarily rotating. Who's ready to rotate to go into the game? Because you can't put a guy to position where he's going to fail because you didn't get him ready for the game. And I'm really big in that. They're ready to go. I'm ready to play. Let's go play. I want to get you out of the way. I want to get you out of the way. You have 24-year-old coach guys. This guy, as you did, was it more special because you've gone through four years? Yeah. I did. I've had to talk to you about the time. And it's, well, what happened this year is really special because you've been a group of guys that have been around you wrong in that. And all of a sudden, all of a sudden, you're gone. It's a try to win that last attempt.

22:28And then we get it down with the same guys on your product. To me, that's what comes to talk about that. It's a great, great. Coach, think when you've kind of been waiting your turn behind Shaq and JT, that now, it's trying to be more kind of the other way around. Yeah, I said it told me to feel different. It really didn't hit me until first practice of spring. But it felt well. Yeah, what is it like over the way to tie? Expression in this page that you could have gotten up at the left for the tie. Yeah. What's it like to wait your time? Is it paid off for you? Yes, it's for us. I wouldn't say have paid off. Yeah, I really haven't done nothing yet. But God has a path for everybody. He's paving my path right now. So I'm just letting him control and pay my path right now. When did you discover that was your path? When did they come? I'm coming to you. Yeah, listen to that. I'm what I should do. I'll say, I won't say after sophomore year. That's when it was a lot of ups and downs. And even this past year, it was a lot of ups and downs. But mainly from last year, it was a lot of ups.

23:31And it's like letting him control everything. I tend to overtake and want to control things myself. But that's not how God works. God, like I said, God has a path for everybody. He's paving my path. What is the biggest thing you see in life? From chapter 18, it showed you how to lead this path. Just say consistent. It's different leaders. You got the vocal leader. You got the leader that said, by example. It's different personalities in the group. So I'll say, I can't talk to Edward. I can't talk to Ken Curry. I can't talk to Ken Curry. I talk to Ken. So it's just, they're consistent. Stay positive. And everything will take care of stuff. You made bloods last year. I mean, you made your part of this thing, right? What's your sense of this defense coming back? From placing eight starters. How are you going to put for y'all to make another run? Everybody's working. Like you said, we lost a lot of good players. A lot of good leaders, man. But the guys that stepped on out, we just got to step up. We just got to take on what the guys left for us.

24:34Pretty much it. Because that we're getting to the bottom. Good. The same mindset that we had last year. The second-sixth week. And on our toolbox and trust in Coach Jay, whatever he got for us. As a receiver, he's pretty polished. Do you have anything made in like throwing up a wise, he's sort of a good player? And you get to the right run? Yeah, I don't know. I mean, probably he had good coaches. And obviously, he's naturally a gifted athlete. He played a couple different sports in high school. Has a good feel for space and super athletic. But he's really impressed me with how dedicated he is. And he's always in my office. He's trying to get better. When you have the receivers, you guys have, how do you get the guy like him involved in the passing game, as well? We saw Kate and G do it to some level, but he's a guy who caught 50-some passes. Yeah, no, I think it makes it easier. I show these recruits all the time. Because everyone says, oh, how is he just a receiver school? It's like Marvin Harrison was the best receiver in the country.

25:37And who number two is in targets and receptions. And receiving ours was Kate. Because you could go to the other schools, and they don't have the receivers we do. And you're going to get doubled every game. Good luck. I don't know many great plays. If you're going to get bracketed. But no, you have the receivers at Coach Hartline, and with Keith Span in here, we're going to have single coverage. And if my tight ends can't beat single coverage, and we're going to have issues, we'll have to get another tight end. We can. We've got a lot of tight ends who are pretty good receivers, and excited to see them. And you mentioned the inline blocking. Yeah. I think if you take PFF grades, and see if you will want that, they're not as high as other guys. How have you fought for Max? For Max, OK. Yeah, just how do you see that part of his game? Because I think that's been the knock that people have talked about. Yeah, I'm not sure. I mean, he checked that box when I watched the film. I'm not sure what the nice folks at PFF are watching. But Wilkes Merrick didn't have many offers coming out. He's the best blocking tight end in the country. So I don't know what his grade is. Lathan talked about it. At the convoy, he said that actually the Purdue game came to you. And said, hey, this guy is a horrible guy. And what do you remember about Max?

26:38Yeah, Lathan trying to take all the credit. Caleb Downs was also kind of sure with me. I always have dinner with those two guys at DBs, really the safeties on Friday nights. And I always, every week, just asking about the opposing tight ends. And they were super high on Max, Purdue week. So he went to the portal, laid in a Caleb. I see, oh, that's a guy. So I was there. We're all watching. Obviously, you have to do your own evaluation. And which is that? How much do you value that up? And do you gear that from guys who actually have to go on the field? No, hugely. Usually. And like, at this back to back, you're really because you had, I mean, I would have watched Max. Anyway, I'm not even playing too much play over here. But like the year before, it was Sam Williams told me about Wilkes, America. So no, if a guy knows our culture, and says, Coach, he fits your room. Like, I got to give Sam all the credit for finding cash. Is this the deepest tie-in room that you've had here? Yeah, it's got to be. Just because, again, Dan, how many guys played in the netty? Then we had five, four or five tight ends. We had all six play in the playoffs. And four of those six are back.

27:38So yeah, I mean, we've got tons of guys in that room that have started college football games. And not just against the school down the street, like big time moments and big time games. So yeah, we're super deep. How valuable was that to know what you have? Four guys that have all played a lot of football in your tight end. Hugely. And I think the best part, Dan, is like, now I can challenge him even more. We're past the stage of, OK, here's what it's going to be like on Saturday. Almost all the guys in that room have done it. So now I can challenge him even more. Go be the best tight end room in the country. We're at a higher state. If you're not up to that challenge, then go somewhere else. For guys like Bennett and Jolani, what do they have to do to earn even more life time this year? Yeah, I think everyone's different. Right? Bennett's different than Jolani. And for those guys, and we consistently, I said it last week, like, those hard are going to put the best 11 on the field. It doesn't matter if they're all running back to receivers or tight ends. So like every day I tell them, every day you're competing against the other tight ends in the room. But we're competing against receivers and they're running back to when we put two or three or four tight ends on the field. If that package is better than none, we're going to live in that.

28:38So every day is a challenge. Really? What is it? You can go. How long has the drill is in three? How long has the drill been working? How long has the drill been working? Yeah, a lot. I was obviously all injured. It was unfortunate. But he put in so much work. I was excited to see him have a full season. So that was cut short. But again, on the flip side, it challenged him to be more of a leader and to learn the offense, maybe taking a step back and help mentor a guy like Jolani. And I think there was a huge opportunity for a guy like Bennett and Jolani. We watched it this morning in my meeting when we went down. We went tempo in the next play, G-block the C-Gap. Then we hit Quinch on. Then the next play, we were like 14 personnel, 13. And it was three tight ends, we had never done that. And we're on the road at Oregon and we punched it in and scored. It's just a great story to tell the guys. Like when Kate went down against Georgia, we played the game with Ms. Rossi. It's like, all the guys got to be ready. I don't know when your numbers had to be called. So I know it was unfortunate, but it's such a good learning opportunity. What are you? Dr. Jolani needing to be more consistent.

29:40Is that some of you're seeing more of a ninja class friend? Yeah, I mean, he's off the charge night and day, more mature, been really impressed with just his work ethic. He's in here every night getting the extra work in. I'm challenged him to learn every position I'm off and don't just be a Y, be a Y, be an H. Know what the C's got. And then also be a leader. He's not a young guy anymore. So like he's coaching Nathan, or blocking those guys in Max. He was yelling at Max Claire, not yelling at. He was encouraging him to finish like, hey, you're obviously tight and like, we're going to be going harder than everyone on the field. And I was like, you get it. That's awesome. He's been a leader. It's a super impressive thing. For you, I know you're one that deferred to your guys and credit them, but you are kind of just a staple of one part of the purpose of coaching you do. You build your way up through this program now. Get the title of this off season. What's it been like to watch your journey here and kind of see where you are now? Yeah, and I appreciate that. You know, I'm not going to take the bait there. That's total rap poison. But no, I think every off season at Ohio State,

30:42we have such good players. And we win championships. Everyone around here is going to get opportunities to go somewhere. And that's a credit to those guys. There's also like shows all the trust that Coach Day and Coach Arlan have for me. And I've been, those guys have been my boss for the last nine years, whether it's Coach Day or Coach Hard. So like nothing's changed but a title. And just, you know, super blessed to be here with those two guys. And I love those guys. I've been in Houston, I've been starting talking about the message with your guys about being over the highest talented group or in the rankings and all that. This group is now veteran. Oh, yeah. I have one of the most productive titles in the country join the room. Do you have to change? I know it's still going to be hardest working. No, I'm not. I can take that away. Is it a different message now, different mentality? It is. It is. Yeah, Austin, you hit the nail on the head. We're not changing our DNA. You cut open Ohio State title and easy to be a bad dude. It was really freaking hard. And it's just gritty. It's all get out. But I'm not saying that we're going to be overlooked this year at all. It's a 180. I told the guys, we should set the tone for the offense, for the team, nationally, with toughness and effort

31:43and all that, but production. And we should be a driving force. I challenge them all the time. Someone comes to practice. You want to see what the Ohio State Buck guy fight, culture is a brother. Just go watch the Titans. Don't want that to the Buck guys are. So I challenge them, you know, lead from the front now. We don't need to be the least kind of the sleeper unit. No, no. Like set the tone. Did Max push that quickly? I mean, you've entered the will trying to lead and encourage through practice. He's been here too much. Is he fitting that much? No, he fits right in. And I saw things to some things today that I'm like, all right. Yeah, no, he's been a high state titan. Yeah, now, super proud of him in the whole unit. Sorry, that I missed anybody else. Good. Thank you guys. Thanks, Jim. Thanks. We're getting up to guys for sure. I mean, Michael Talman's was talking to me before the game or the Rose Bowl in Chris Carter and after the game as well. I mean, just them giving me advice. Just tell them to keep going first. And just keep doing what I've been doing the whole year. I mean, I'm got Buck out legend. So definitely look at them guys for sure.

32:44Major respect. It means a lot. Me just a kid from Miami just being able to play an actual championship as a freshman. Something that I dreamed up as a kid. And I'm here now and is can't wait to put on a show Monday. He said he can. I mean, the teacher, like he says, may crazy each and every week playing. But you know, can't let it get to my head, I should say. Let me just football at the end of the day, but just happy business position. Oh, none of us think we could be covered, man.

33:46Oh, man, we're actually talking about this yesterday as well. But you know, I mean, that's what they do. That's what they do. We should go out there, play our game and show them reason why not the playman on man. Two. Four. Three. One. I go five. It's good. No problem. My mom says, you know, just go out there Monday. I just dominate the person that's confronting me.

34:47No, just do what I've been doing for the last two to three weeks, I should say. But you know, they play men on men. So I'm just ready for the challenge. Yeah. I mean, feels good. Just say somebody going out there and play men on men, guess Ohio State receivers is something crazy. But you know, we just ready for the challenge. They said they're not chasing their game plan, but we got to go out there and show them the reason why not the playman on man. And I look through the race and announce the month 2016. And somebody's not going to wait right now. Sure. We're going to be the conversation. Yeah. When you would pass it back, you have to tell the guy that the state's in case that he's going to have to win. I mean, I don't really, if I be on a curve, I'd be on a curve. It's not really a big deal to me. It may definitely be a blessing for sure, just to be on a curve of a game, but you know, it's not really a dream of mine. It's a dream of mine, but I don't really think too much of it. Can you talk about the following four-year end and the National Champions League?

35:48What's the end of four-year end? You got two. What's the beginning of four-year end? What's the beginning of four-year end? I mean, no, not yet. Probably hit me after this season. Just no planning to call us football players as a freshman, planning to Rose Bowl as a freshman, planning to call it in Bow and not in the National Champions League. It's a blessing for sure, but it hasn't hit me yet. I'm sure. Come out with your family and family. I'm sure it may be a blessing for me. My favorite catch, I would say we play Michigan State, the one I call about two defenders, definitely probably my favorite for sure. Or you could go the one from Iowa, as I say, and as a parliament too. Sure. I don't mean, like you said, it's pretty frustrating.

36:56Having the game that I had in the Rose Bowl, and then coming to the Cotton Bowl, and just doing different things, changing their scheme up against me. But I mean, like you said, whatever I could do to make, I mean, help the team win. It's not really a big deal for me. As long as we win, that's all I really care about. And then you got to set the National Championship. Right here. It means a lot. We put a lot of work in this season. We have highs, we have lows. We have people cutting us out. But we hear now. We just ready to pull on the show Monday. Oh, yeah.

37:59First of all, the one that's not so championship, because there was means a lot. I mean, you see everything that he bent on this year, people saying he should be fine. There's that in the third. But you see everything that he bent through this year. I mean, I see everything that he bent through this year. See everything. People saying my hand on Twitter. I wasn't here. He first got the head of coaching job. But I know this year, for sure, we definitely got a win. It's for him. I mean, it's a lot. A lot of people in the league, I should say. I can't really say who. But I mean, you had guys like, oh, there. You had Stefan Diggs. It means a lot of my good Tom is Chris Carter. Just a lot of guys I played in NFL and stuff like that. But yeah, really them guys, for sure. What do they say? No, just keep going. You got it. You've not stood for sure. Really, I really appreciate it. Yeah. So they said. Yeah. Yeah.

39:00Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, like physical defense, like you said, like people say, like they like to play man, they're not changing their skin. So we're just ready for the challenge. Like you said, best defense, we probably go see all year. And we just got to be ready to go out there in Monday and just put on the show. Yeah. Yeah. I'm excited for Will. First coming here in Ohio State, January, our first workout we had together. Just everything that we built through this season. I'm just happy for Will for him to be in this position right now. But we got to finish the job. And that's the winning out of you Monday.

40:09Oh, I mean, it's pretty funny. Them saying that because I'm just only a freshman. But I mean, it's a blessing for sure. People even say that. But I got two, three more years left for college. And I'm just focused on college right now. I'm not really worried about the NFL right now. It's very special for me. I just be in the freshman and playing the national stage. Up here for national titles, something that I dreamed of as a very young kid. I'm just happy to be here. And I just can't wait to put on some Monday for you guys. I mean, all of the receives we just sit on the bench. And we just see him hit the quarterback in the ball. Come on. And we all just got up and just started jumping up and down. We all decided happy for jacking that moment.

41:11And we just knew that that moment like, you know, this we're going to the daddy for sure. Yeah. I mean, it shows a lot. I mean, you know, going from high school or when the three state championships, I saw my daughter then, you know, coming to Ohio State, just competing for national charter right now. I mean, just so that I've picked two great schools. But I'm happy to be here and just can't wait to put on some Monday. I mean, I mean, I mean, I'm here with the coolest person to reach out to. The coolest person. I mean, you got a lot. I can't really say just a specific person. He got a lot of great guys. Reach out in the lead like, oh, Del. You had guys like Stefan Deeks.

42:11A lot of other players will just get kind of my mind, but really, really them two guys will show, oh, Del, a step on this. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, like they say, they play man. So, man, I'm just ready for the challenge. Just get ready to go out there Monday and just no put on the show. Thank you. We're going to go back over there. Welcome back to our team. All right. They say they play man. So, man, I'm just ready for the challenge. Just get ready to go out there Monday and just no put on the show. Thank you. We're going to go back over there. Yeah. I'm just keeping guard first. I know the reason why I'm here. Like he said, just keep guard first and just keep the main thing and the best corner I've faced this year.

43:11I mean, I've faced a lot of great corners. I don't really say but, yeah, I've faced a great corner. I really put a name on it. My dream vacation is Teres and K-Codes. My dream vacation is Teres and K-Codes. What are you? What are you? I'm just curious. I say both respect and frustration as well. I mean, I doubt they come out there and try to put to me and they say stick it to what they've been doing all year and that's playing man coverage which is ready for the challenge.

44:19Pretty good group. Christian Gary 29 is a great corner. 15, Lenard Moore. Two great guys are right there. Very physical but, you know, we all highest there at Seville so we ready for the challenge. I say just no understanding the defense, understanding the game plan, understanding what Coach Kelly is trying to get done. I mean, just coming in, I felt I progressed from my first game against Akron to now. I felt I got better each and every week. I mean, things slowed down a lot for me. But yeah, I really just know understanding the differences and know understanding what they're trying to do to me for sure. I'm two guys.

45:24Great part of the best we go see all year for sure. Two physical guys. But, you know, we're ready for the challenge that they're coming with and that's the play man on man. You know, we ready to go on Monday. Yeah. I mean, the environment is pretty crazy. Seeing all these cameras. Suddenly, I never thought I'd see them alive but it's a blessing for sure to be in this position right now. I mean, we just had a prayer, prayer, prayer, prayer meeting and you know, we all, they all, I mean, we all discussed the issues because they discussed issues. You know, which is one of the work. I mean, not two and a half weeks we had off before Tennessee game and we just came out there on Tennessee game and we played with a chip on our, on a chip on our shoulder.

46:28All throughout the playoffs and we go continue to play with that chip on our shoulder and that championship on Monday. Do you know how that very impactful, he had a very impact on my career as you say, you know, just going to his games as a very young kid, seven, eight years old. Him playing Westfield Westfield, he played Clemson Orange Bowl down in Miami. He just go there seeing his games. It was like, yeah, definitely when the player didn't stay and I can't wait till I get to know that moment for sure. Yeah, are you. Yeah, because they really just in his own, his own love space, he's just walking around trying to get his mind right trying to get his mind ready for the game. But you know, he, he just gave everybody hype in the locker room and you know, just trying to get us ready to go to win the game.

47:32Yeah. Oh, yeah, oh, yeah, for sure. You go play man gets Ohio State receivers. I mean, just be ready because you know, we definitely go come out there and know. Give our best. I mean, they said not to change what they do. So we just ready for the challenge. Just kind of what you're doing. You know, like you see this kind of situation. Not a year later, definitely sometime my career college, but not my first in college, I should say. Just to be able to be in this position right now, just you know, a blessing or just a young kid from Miami to be here. And I won't take it for granted. I'm ready to go out there. I'm not giving it all. Yeah.

48:38Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I was watching I gave my gets was a Georgia. I believe. Yeah. I was in a game. I was pretty sick myself because I was actually committed at that time. So I mean, yeah, they left a bad testing them off. But I mean, we ready to go out there Monday to redeem myself and just put a show Monday. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I just laugh. But you know, that's what they do. They're not going to change what they do just because we're high estate. So I'm just going to go out there and put it on. Put it on. Why not to play? Man on man. It gets us. So we just got to go out there and show them my day. So.

49:43Can you say the year? Sorry. My journey here at Ohio State, we're pairing a lot from natural shape of shit. Me just going through everything that I've been through. And I first got here all the materials, all the hard workouts that we had, all the hard practices. I mean, just preparing all of us for this moment. And I'm just ready to go out there and give it up my all on Monday. Okay. Okay. Yeah. We just squeezed this. One or nine. 200. I mean, he is big and strong. Yeah. Yeah.

50:45That's what you know. What's 20? Yeah. That's great. Yeah. It's pretty good. No problem. Yeah. And why not probably like the most is the one against Michigan State when I caught over two defenders on their side line. Party. I won't want after that. I should say or you go to one against Iowa. Party them three. Probably my best one.

51:47Oh, I mean, just will put in the ball in my area. And I just know how to make a play for them. Even though somebody was gathering my face, I just know I still have to make a play because the ball touched my hand. So, I mean, just when the ball is the thing, I have to make the play no matter how the ball comes at me. I have to a big game. I mean, we really, they really feed us Chick-fil-A or piece after the game. So it's really either Chick-fil-A or piece. So yeah, probably Chick-fil-A for sure. It went pretty good. Everybody just speaking with their thing is going right in what they think is wrong.

52:53We just a lot of the older guys, what's in their opinions on what we need to do to come together as a team. But you know, that meeting definitely helped us in a big way because it helped us on the field as well because we're playing our great football right now. And we just got to tune out on Monday. Yeah, it definitely got emotional. I can't really say what it really was said because players only and coaches only. But it was definitely some stuff said that people took, people took and they went with it and that's the reason we're playing the Wizz-Rawi-Plan right now. Yeah, make help me a lot this year. Him being our older guy in the room. Me help me and Carl Nell as well and Brendan and all the guys in our seed room as well. Me just a great guy as well. Very smart. Me and make just been a big part of the reason that I'm having a seed that I'm having a well because he's been a big.

53:53You know, older guy been there, been a lot of great guys in our room like Chris Alivegaer, Garret Wilson, Marvin Harrison Jr. Jackson, Smith and Jim. So he's seen all the Chris I've been through there and he teaching us the right thing and the right way and the buck out way for sure. I take these on the platform. You didn't necessarily come along with this much. Right, right, the same way. Did you feel on the way to this? No, I felt like I was really, you know, right? I mean, to my co-nafters, it's got different. I mean, I just feel like I had an all the offers I think I would. You know what I mean, but obviously I had fucked down like a group of websites. But it doesn't matter if you get here enough on the start of the month. What was it like to take that in the session? You know, I felt good. I was feeling an auto-har work and I do that spring. I got a teaching methodology. You gave me, I just paid off. I didn't know it was right. I was playing the camera. Taking the two deep as a true freshman. I was late to do the knowledge and opportunities and I had a bigger role this year.

54:53So what do you expect to go into your second? You know, I just worked to keep, you know, I mean, obviously, you know, whatever, what's happening to say these or whatever. You know, I'm just working just to keep, you know, work my tail logs and make a roll for my session. How do you treat physical? I would say like, I've got a lot more in the rest of the game. I gave some weight now. I'm pushing 200 pounds now. You know, I'm not against targets. Coach Patricia, what have you, I'm a state-of-dandit now. What has been like for you? He's a great guy. You know, I like him a lot. He's a great guy. He cares about his players. He's an awesome football-wise. He's a master rival behind us. He's one of respect against football business. He's a wincer. You know, in his time being at a family, so I think he's going to reflect on you as well. What's your, I wonder if it's like the starter or occasional piece of what you expect to see from this day of the plane and in space? I expect you know, just to add value, you know, from your team and just make plays.

55:56You feel a lot more popular this year. Or you last year? Oh yes, for sure. I feel like now I'm starting to use the everything here. And I feel like now I'm just trying to pull off my new last year with this, you know, like I said. And I think I will always make plays. What? Let's go say, you know, Ryan set up a bigot of a screen. He's starting to scratch in a way now. He's letting too much of the shadow of the national team. How has the team really embraced that mindset and say competitive in that mindset? You know, you know, we have more ideas, you know, so far so, you know, we're trying to stay determined, you know, just trying to dominate and we're not learning the past anymore. It's like you're never going to have to be determined again a little. The coaches have got adventure, they're having an A and B rule, they're having B rule. They're having B rule, they're filling in, you know, get some reps in another position. Well I was seeing right now playing in SCO, they're saying you get to trying, you know, you know, crack myself and just you know, make myself more versatile for this team wherever I go. They're getting some more last part. I'm limiting his reps. Right, obviously he's literally like a pro-fist.

56:56So, you know, obviously I'm making this, you know, and for him, you're being very, you know, Ryan does this a lot of work, you know, I mean, skipping, skiing better. Thank you. Appreciate it. I speak some of his language with what he's called things before and you're trying to morph everything together right with some things that we've done, what he knows what to do, like it's a lot. But he's been incredible with, I think the staff, he's very organized, he's detailed. You'll have constant, clear communication, you know, and they're going to get together at this time to be like, you're just efficient in your role. And it's been a lot like when you're come from outside and you come back into it and you have to try to catch him up on the recruiting board and you know, like, you have a lot of these conversations, okay, what are we looking for at these positions now? How do you see it? Because you don't under one coordinator, you might see a, the, my plan back would be this, and then under this coordinator, well, I think the my background needs to be this. So, you have to have those conversations at every position and you just kind of keep going through

57:58and, but I'm just excited to learn. I think the more systems, I mean, luck. Played in the system here in college, played in the system, understood this, played in the system, played in the system under Greg Williams, that is talent, coach of growl gold, and then Jim Null, like, every one of those, there's like different terminology for everything. So, you're just, you're learning a different language, Colin Thain, you know, I mean, there's just concepts and I think it's kind of collect over time, what you think is really good stuff and how you do stuff that big a little different, and I'm just really excited to learn from that, and I'm telling you success. He seemed very excited over there talking really to me here. Yeah, coaching college, whatever, so long. What's his personality like with you guys? He's been great. I mean, his energy is incredible. He's very, he is. He's authentically excited to be back in college football. He could tell there's like a yearning to get back to like the way you got in the coaching, right? Is the impact young people, is the impact, teach the game of football.

59:00And so, a few times he's been in front, you know, kind of like talking to the guys, you can sense like he's excited to just teach ball. You know what I mean? And kind of ironically, like, you know, similar to a lot of things that chips that last year, right? You gotta get back and you're like, man, I'm just excited to. And so, he has that excitement. He's doing a phenomenal job, I think, of getting to know the players. Just kind of like walking around versus like popping in, making sure that he's in front of them, and they get to know him and he gets to know them, and it's a lot. And you can imagine when you come in, we have all these guys, right? And trying to learn all these guys, I'm learning recruiting, trying to learn to staff, and learn dynamics, like it's a lot. But he's handled it really well. You know, he's an old school ball coach, he's a grinder, so he's doing a really good job. James, Sonny's probably not going to need to do much this spring. How much more can you get done with the young guy? Let's tell him that. So, he's got to do a lot. But in terms of Ryan Dair, he said, you know, 50%, 75% or whatever. How much more can you get done with the young guys when they're not worried too much about the senior?

1:00:02Yeah, I think, I mean, you're always just looking for competition, especially like a spring ball, and that's what it's all about, right? You're trying to have, it's so cliche, but it's true. Like the Iron Sharpens, Iron mentality of, you want your run to be super competitive, to where, hey, the guy in front of me makes a play, my next set of four plays, I go out there, I have the point, right? And it's a constant driving of the room forward. And so, yeah, Sonny gets 50 or how many reps, reps off 50%? Remember, Coach said, that means more opportunity for somebody else to play, right? So, that means more for our values, that scheme flexibility with our value, we're going to pay Pearson round, we set TJ Riley, you like all these guys stove, we're all going to get more reps, which I think is great. So, we got to do it at this point in the season. But I think, yes, there's still stuff that, within that all of a sudden, he's going to be clawing to try to get those reps, because he's a true pro.

1:01:04And that's been the most enjoyable thing about working with him, is like, you get a kid who's played safety, his whole life comes to the back, or he just wants to learn the why behind everything. And, you know, very similar to the fact of Cody, like, would you have guys who are that easy to work with? You're not trying to, like, not worried about texting anybody in our room, about coming over and trying to learn more. You know what I mean? Like, were you at, you know, like, they're obsessed with the game of football, they're always around when they're at class. So, it's like, it makes it really easy as a coach, because they're passionate for the game, and so strong. You mentioned TJ, in terms of the higher-width map, just what can sunny, like, what do you envision more with him with all of that stuff? I think, I think we just have a lot of guys with a lot of links, you can talk about sunny styles, long, conron, our Valries, long, conron. It's crazy, because you see sunny, and you're like, okay, this guy, like, I wish I was built like that when I played.

1:02:04And then you see our Val stand next to sunny, you're like, you know what I mean? And so, like, and then you look across the room, like, as the room warms up, you're like, holy smokes, like, we just have a bunch of guys, and that's a lot of credit to make. Coach Mayt has a phenomenal job. I was just talking to Burm about it, like, to see even our media guys, what they looked like when they showed up, during the bull of the whole Maddie run, and they're kind of hanging out during practice, and you see the high school bodies to see what they looked like today, before they go away, and like, the shoulders are all like, everything is just different, and they've been indoctrinated into the brotherhood. So I think, you know, there's just a lot to work with. And so what he's really good at right is, like, and he's talked about it. One year, he has Junior Sayah, we'll even get a smite for Abel, you know, Roosevelt Colvin, and those guys, and then a couple of years later, he has Brandon Spikes,

1:03:04and so he's like, okay, I'm just going to put his blitz brand up at the middle all the time, because he has 260 pounds and a beast. And then, you know, he says he was my best nose guard, from Mike Backer, right? And then the year after that, he gets, you know, we've got Jamie Collins and Dante Hightower, so now we can do a lot of stuff, right? So they're just like, hey, this is what we're doing. We got plenty of people in there. Hey, here's what we got. Let's utilize it. So that's what Sprint will be. While going to Lab, and figure out what they mean, so I'm sure through Sprint Ball, there will be like, hey, here's what we do really well as a unit. Because this unit's going to be different, right? I mean, there's a lot of production, so a unit will be different. So you kind of got to reform your own identity, and you have to re-hearn that silver bullet, big name, and mantra. How many other guys can look at Arville? It seems like he's on a very good track. Is that it? Is it a record? What's his ceiling? It's how he can do the start of Arville. It's just a lot, right now he's locked in. He's done a great job becoming a leader. Coming out of his shell, I think, you know, I think for Velley, it's all about consistency and just preparation.

1:04:07And I'm proud of Arville, you know, he's through the season. He's got a way better at, you know, a lot of it's little things, just note-taking and stuff. Like sometimes these kids are always on their phones and stuff, not in the meeting rooms or anything like that, but just naturally. So like to get out of pen and paper and like, you hear things and I mean, oh yeah, I got it. What you do until your dog tired and then you forget, you know what I mean? But when you really understand it, you know what I mean? Like, go play faster. He's gotten so much better through the year. Just a lot of that's because of Cody, like becoming a pro. And now it's like Sonny's pulling him along. He's pulling pain along, the pain's pulling TJ and Riley and Eli. So I can still like, so I kind of love the competition and the way it's made up. Yeah, Velley is on a great path right now. How many different guys do you feel like can be in that Mike's spot? Three years. But that was obviously losing Cody and now having that. I think that's something that's slower though, as we kind of go. Because, you know, week one, Sonny actually started out Mike for us.

1:05:07And Sonny smart enough to play them all. Our Vell is smart enough to play them all. Pain pierce the smart enough to play them all. And it's also like, how do you, like depends on what scheme you're running. Where are they? How do they be utilized as well? You know what I mean? So you say Mike, my backer, you know, whether it's Tommy, I can very grow up there on research. Two different people and Cody's different than those two. So I challenge to like, a lot of the guys that come in. And so you got the other both. The more you understand about the scheme in general, the faster you will play. You know what I mean? Like, if I just sit here and I say, hey, I got to learn Mike. My drop is this. And that's all I need to know. Like, well, no, football happens so fast. And all the shifts and motions that like, if you're out there just playing and you're waiting for a call, and you're just reacting, like, you're so worried about what's going on on your side of the ball, you haven't recognized that the offense is telling you something that's what they're doing. So if I'm out there and also I'm not getting a call,

1:06:09I know what the call should be. It's like, hey, are we playing? You know, let's go. Now listen, you get it. You can look, I can see, okay, here's what the tight ends doing. That's what the backs doing. Here's what plays are coming. If you just line up the play, it's rather passive at the time. Like, you know, stand a chance. You got to eliminate plays in your mind by seeing what the offense is doing. Like, tell you a story every time they line up. They just window dressing. People motion and she knows to try. Okay, are they trying to do man's own indicators? Are they trying to make sure that they're getting the same form of play? They're getting the same formation. They're on the same place. But they just shift the people and then they motion. And they move and they don't want you to recognize. So if we're always worried about what work you don't mean. So the more you know, faster you can play. You're not sitting there thinking, oh, what do I have for you? You're just really active. So I know you have. So my challenge to guys is like, there's always a no both. So I think a lot of it would just be on, on depth. I'm sure guys will get, you know, if Sonny's only doing 15 to 75% of the plays, and probably more guys get more will reps than they had. Because we need a well bodice. That's technically where Sonny has started. But we'll rotate them through.

1:07:09Let the production kind of show what it does. And sometimes, you know, you'll live with some mistakes just from being a news spot. But you'll be able to judge too, like who's actually getting in the book. You know, I mean, who's actually studying? How much of a great have you seen from Sonny this time of year ago through the National Championship game? And then what's next for you? Man, I mean, definitely. I know Sonny has big goals and he should. I do as well for him. To see how far he's come. You know, the first thing kind of stands out is just like his, his footwork has gotten so much better. You know, when you're in the boxes and linebacker, you got to be able to remember Luke Fickley to say it all the time. And you got to be slow until it's time to be fast. And when you're twitchy like he is, a lot of times, you know, when you're about safety, you're used to pulling the trigger and rolling. Like you got to learn how to shuffle and not cross over. And he got so much better as a year or nine. I think a lot of people question whether he'd be able to hold up Fisk howdy wise and you know, he was, he was great.

1:08:12You know, he's the season guy. He's really good with his hands. He's a really natural ability to snag. We'll keep challenging him. I think he should be a dominant guy in coverage. Like he needs to be a guy that we can put on a tight end and be like, he's not going to be in catch on the ball. You know what I mean? I think he's a lot of racism. I think we need to challenge him there. Challenge him. I think everything is just mistrust of sunny. It's everybody's urgency in zone coverage. I mean, the urgency with you have to break on the football to close that space, not at the ball carrier, have so much space on you to cut making mist. It's critical. I think sometimes he's, he could be so athletic that, you know, you can get away some stuff. And he knows anything that I'm saying right now, he already knows. So the best part is a lot of times like he'll come to me before film and already say like, man coach on that play, I should have, you know what I mean? Like he knows. And the best part is that he's humble enough. Our whole thing is that they just want to be, they want to be pushed and they want to be coached. And so the pain and heck of a loss could be asked for it, right? Like, so I always ask like, what do you need for me?

1:09:14Just, just keep making sure like you're pushing it. Don't let me settle. Don't let me settle. So he's probably the best in the room with that. Do you look at sunny and arvel as kind of your top food guys right now? Yeah, I mean, I think going into it, you know, I think it's sunny or well, paintings right up there in that next, you know, your accurate there. And then it's like, who else is going to emerge from really the fourth, the fourth guy? You know, I think it's a healthy way to put it. Um, Yeah, I just, I think our, I think our backers are so competitive, so competitive that it's, you know, like I know painting pierces, chopping at the bit. And I know that he's going to push, you know, Vell and sunny. I know that you look at Riley and TJ and Eli and Stove, like those guys are going at it. These work guys, those guys are going at it and it's constant competitive. You know what I mean? They are trying to fight each other and everything. So it's the reality of it is they're fighting for reps, right?

1:10:14So this game is hard. It's winter loser every single day. And, you know, a lot of the guys are going to make our break and it starts with the mental preparation to be honest with you. And, um, because that's what trust starts, right? If you don't know what you're doing, I can't put you out there. So who preps mentally as we get rolling and then the physical part of that. But let's say it says it's sunny, our bell and painting probably have probably the top three. And then, but I can always say it's always fluid. It's always fluid. I haven't done this. You know, it's funny. There's one coach who said that, um, forget what kind of felt he knew was. But he said that what he does is he has the depth chart. Sit in the front of the room. So if you're a starter, you're the first to grow, you know, and then the second row and these, like, they'll change weekly. Sometimes they'll camp. I'm like, I can't do that. I got to. I'm not sure they can handle that. Good. Brian, two things. One topic being available, but not necessarily playing the very well. What happened with there? And then also, what was the evaluation we will at halftime?

1:11:15Yeah. Well, it's good to go. Just took a shot there as you guys saw. A tie league was available. He was going to be was available in emergency role. We felt like we needed him. We were going to put him in the game. He was cleared. But felt like one more week, almost like the dawn of in situation. One more week of rest, you know, we get him to 100 points. And then, you know, we're going to be able to do that. We were going to be able to get the league of rest. You know, we get him to 100 percent. Which we felt like was the right thing to do. If we needed to, we could have put him in the game. We decided we didn't need him. Yeah, just a general overview of how you feel about this game. You know, first road game, first big 10 game, went about 38 seven. And then, of course, the turnover, shall force. And the stoppage there on a fourth down when they were deep in your territory. How much did those, those loom you, Jack? Oh, yeah. I mean, the turnover battle was huge in this game. And, you know, if we don't get those turnovers, you know, maybe it's a different game for sure, but that's the game.

1:12:16And, you know, we've got to make sure we win in the situations. So, you know, we'll take a look at the film and figure out where it's at. But I thought the atmosphere was, was excellent early on. I thought, you know, they came out and played really, really hard. I think again, Jonathan's doing a really good job of, you know, putting his culture into his thumbprint on the program here. You can see it going and a lot of respect for him and his staff. But I thought our guys responded well and had some really good poise. That was something that we talked about coming into the game. Having poise in the noise, you know, getting down in there. Some of those fourth down conversions are pretty clutch. You talk about that poise will start off really well. And maybe kind of hit a little rough spot. I had a couple of passes and I'm sure he went back one. Obviously, that he went back. What was your assessment of just the poise that he showed and kind of settled down on that following drive and answered that right back? Yeah, I mean, the biggest one was the interception. You know, he knows. I mean, that was not a good play and it could have cost us. So, something to learn from. You said to move on from it and, you know, work through his progression there.

1:13:16But, you know, when you're going through, you know, learning a new offense and everything is going to be some of these growing opportunities and learning from those opportunities. So, but overall, I thought he was solid. He was poised, made some big, big, big throws and then, you know, a couple runs, couple of tough runs in there. You know, you can see what a difference it makes when you have somebody who can run. I always do that very late. What has allowed Jeremiah to at least match the expectations that came in for him so far? That is work ethic. He does it every day in practice. I mean, just doesn't say a word, but works. It's tail off. It's disciplined as humility. He loves being a buckeye. You can tell just the way he works with his teammates. And he's coming out of his shell a little bit too, which is great to see. But, I mean, the talent speaks for itself. I just am impressed with the discipline and the hard work and being able to step in at such a young age. The only way you do that is if you go in and put the work in. And, you know, he came in with that work ethic. Brian certainly taken it from there, but this is especially not a man.

1:14:21Yeah, Brian, we talk about Jeremiah Smith and how special he is. But Caleb Downs on defense was just was pretty incredible. Yeah, pretty impressive. What's it like to have when things are a little clunky? You've got a guy that can make NFL plays on both sides of the ball. Yeah, I thought Caleb played great tonight. I showed up in a big way on a bunch of different spots. And you can see the acceleration out fast he plays. And a part of that is that let us is. But another part is just the way he prepares. I mean, he prepares his hardest anybody on our team. And, you know, he was he was all over the place tonight and huge made a huge difference. And you said and kind of turning that point where they were moving the ball some. And he got he got us going a little bit back there and no, those are some big plays. And then I think it kind of felt like it turned the momentum for us on defense. Do you want to go back into the zone? Henry, here, my out. Felt certain. Older. Brian, what does this say? I know you've already touched on a little bit. What does this say about Devon to be able to come in and deliver that kind of pass? That was a clutch play. It was a clutch play. And then we put it there and you know, we told them, you know, if you have the opportunity to throw it, rip it, only throw it where, you know, you know, the receiver can catch it.

1:15:24You know, we had a couple different options there. If if if nothing was there, just throw it out of bounds and kick the field goal. And he did that and he gave him a chance. And so it was good. It was good to see him make that play in that big spot. And what do you have? Ryan two things on Trey. I know you got a little kind of limp up the field after he got hit there and put them well didn't know. But just kind of how's he doing it and then two just how much drove you've seen from him specifically in the past. And he had some great pickups huge pickups. The one on the touchdown in Jeremiah and the touchdown to a mecca. And there was a couple more. He did a really good job coming across. I got to watch the film, but I just like three of them in particular. I he came across and picked up some corner fires and did a nice job. But that was big. He's he's becoming that all purpose back that you know, we all know he can be. And you know, again, I thought they ran hard, but. Yeah, I mean, you know, I think where we are right now is we're making progress, but we got a long way to go. You know, and I think that you know our guys have that mindset. It was good to get this win on the road.

1:16:25First road win, good environment. But you know, we know that the challenges are bigger ahead. So we got to get on this film. It's the hungry and and you know, keep the journey going. But you know, we're going to get back to work tomorrow. And we know that we got a really good Iowa team coming in here next week. They have had a week off just like always there. They're very, very good team. Play complimentary football. And so we know we got a big challenge ahead of us. So we got to have a great week of practice. Yeah, coach, just want to ask you the play calling, particularly there, the end around to Jeremiah. Just feels like when you guys get into a bit of a spot, you guys have a wrinkle. You have something that's coming. Is this chip? Is this you collaborating? Just what would you say that one seemed to catch them really flat footed on that play? Yeah, no, it's everybody on the staff. There's this collaboration. But chips got a great feel for it for the game and calling the plays. And you know, it was always, you know, have some wrinkles in there. We got a few other ones that we, you know, we held a half on. But I think it's, it's a balance of making sure that you have your fastballs where you're running downhill.

1:17:27And you feel really good about them, but having enough curve balls that, you know, we can create explosive plays. And that's, that's that balance you're constantly looking for. But we always want to try to find ways to get, you know, the ball to our playmakers in space. And we're going to keep trying to do that. Responsibility, getting everybody lined up, getting the call. But knowing my assignment, it's, I, I didn't know how to do it, but it's just like, up to you. It's a little bit more. So it's going to take some getting used to, but I know, I know I'm really, I know. How much do you think that's going to help you in the ball? What? Being Mike. I think it's going to be good. Being able to, being able to roam around. And just taking charge of it, I'm definitely used to that comfortable with that. So I feel like it's going to be good for me in the ball. Does it help you learn a defensive scheme faster to have that much responsibility? Yeah, for sure. Knowing what everybody's doing and everybody's responsibility, he's definitely going to help me play better. What's the typical day like for a two-price, been-bid-aligned back in trying to learn a defensive off the practice field? Off the practice field. Just waking up, getting here early.

1:18:28Probably, probably watching the watching film. We got practice or weight. So we're not going to get through that. I mean, we got meetings, so more, more, the game knowledge. Then we got an individual meeting, so just learning that more. And then after that, after that, we got class and stuff. So after class, we definitely got to stay on the film some more. What film are you watching? What do you watch? Oh, practice film, practice film. Like your film? Yeah, knowing what I did wrong, what I could improve on in. And learning new installs. How have you changed physically since you were rolling? I definitely got a little bit stronger for sure. Speed, speed, a little bit faster. You came in at what and you are at what now as far as weight? I came in at two-toned teams. What's the target weight? You have a certain technical you're trying to get through. Right now, two-three-three-three-three. Doesn't take Mick Lung to get you guys where you want to be, right? What are your expectations for your press career? Every time you get to chance to talk to James Luronias, he has a nice sense of saying about you.

1:19:28What are your expectations for your press career? Just getting on the field and making plays. I feel like that's a good experience for me. I just want to get out there and make plays. Describe your game. It's a lot better. I think I can do a little bit of everything I can cover, I can rest faster, I can play to run to. I think those are all my strengths. I think my strength is faster. I think I see games. When that's usually a big Texas flavor on this team, a lot of Texas guys, it's been like here for like the last 10 years. That's got to make you feel kind of at home. Talk more about that if you would. Just Texas guys, you know football is really big in Texas. So with that Texas Ohio pipeline, I'm knowing I got guys from Texas. I love it. You'll stick to your pre-pro. I'm the goal line. You open up with a long horse, start your career.

1:20:29Thank you Peter. A little extra dance in the tank. What is it just inspired you to see what Cody Simon was able to do here last year? Not only as a player, but as a leader. That's definitely something I look forward to becoming and being able to do those things. That Cody did, Cody did, the way he played, all the plays he made. I feel like it's a good aim for me. What kind of example is Sunny setting for a group right now? Sunny, his position, his switch from safety to linebacker. I feel like the way that he played last year, being his first year at linebacker. I feel like if he could do what I could do with something. That's definitely getting center. Do you have a lot of experience playing safety? Yes, I'm really seeing that. I mean, we're all pretty much interchangeable. If I need to go to left guard center, whatever, both need to go to center of left guard. However, it's not really like a big shock or a moment. We train for this.

1:21:29We're prepared for this. So when it happens, we're able to execute. I know you stopped your teammate in the switch. To left guard. I think half time. Well, coming in, it's a rookie in the crowd and the noise. I know you said you guys all trained for this, but what can you tell us about how he... He's a man. He's built for this moment. He's done it for his whole life. At the end of the day, it's just a game. We keep on trying to keep everybody calm, co-inclected. We're five as one. We help each other out. Whenever we need to, we do it. He was ready. He was built for it. He's going to be a great player. You're obviously no stranger to Matthew's toughness. What was it like just seeing the way he let this off? I think I... that guy's a warrior. 36 years old. He's taken some hits and some things and some dance. And he's able to get back up and keep it rolling. You know, he's still got that fire to him. You know, we love having him back there. Sean has always said after a loss, don't let the team beat you twice.

1:22:30But to have the lead late in the game, all the injuries are not wins. You describe that level of frustration. I mean, it's the NFL. It comes down to seconds and inches. And you've seen me off the past couple of days and today. You know, it comes down to the little things. And we'll see him again. And I apologize if you were asked this, but what was it like for you personally to walk on to the stadium? It was kind of surreal, man. It was nice, emotional seeing everybody. I wasn't a kid when I came here, but I grew into more of a man. And these people here have definitely helped lay that blue spring for me. And helped me out big time. And I can't thank them enough for that. I know you've looked at film yet for how you feel about the D. I feel really good, you know, saying it could be because everything, careful, all summer, and OTA is showing up. You know, we said our ground. We came up short a little bit, but in that end day, you know, it's a lot of wear from the, I see a bright future for us. I think that happened on the overtime drive.

1:23:30I mean, you guys have been stopping them and then they just seem to kind of get a role. You know, just something that we just need work on, you know, got to play around better on that. And just got a little bit of a big face. That's all that it comes down to. But overall, I just felt like we just came up short on that. So, that's the offense. It's kind of struggling to find it's hurting early in the game. What did you guys feel like you like to do as a defense team? You know, that's the feeling. I feel like we just need to step up, man. You know, I know they would have come through and have our back. So, I just tell the offense, you know, we got y'all back. You know, just keep going, y'all doing what we want people to try and hold in the best we can. Are you ready to pop up a bigger performance in this game? Yeah, definitely. I feel like, you know, as a whole, everybody on the offense can contribute. And, you know, we have a lot of great playmakers on our team. And our coach will definitely find ways to get us all to ball and get in the best position to score. Step on creationate. Please go out. Now, you grew up in a CC country. Did you have any interest? Did you think you could make it to the Rose Bowl one day and want to play the Rose Bowl one day? I would say, yeah, definitely. As a competitor, that's something that you compete for.

1:24:31Especially as a team player, you know, to be at the top level, to go to the playoffs and be in this position. So, I wouldn't say I would have guessed I would be here in this position now, but definitely I wanted to be in this spot. There were a bit of a conflict this match. We'll have the moment to the end of the game. He thinks about Jeremiah's same thing. He ended the play early in the game, or the fumble. I mean, it's a great play, but he said the play. How much do you think about that? How do you think about that play, where you replay it, your mind? You know, that's past us now. You know, that game is past us. We're looking forward to how we can come up this week coming up in win this game. And that's all that really matters, you know, as a whole, as a team. Everybody has that same mindset, that same grit, and that same passion. So, that's all that matters. That Murphy 24,000 for you. You guys had some pretty clear motivational factors coming out of Michigan, going into Tennessee with three weeks of a lot of top. How do you keep that same kind of mental edge, not going into this game, or maybe there's more people talking positively about you, things like that?

1:25:34Yeah, definitely. I would say everyone just keep the same mindset that we had going into where we are now. We all have a big goal in mind, and we know what that goal is, so whatever it takes to stay focused, that's what we're going to do. Awesome. More in the podcast, which on the way that you and Trey bounced out the work will last week, was that sort of the perfect design of what you guys envisioned a year ago, and that's what you're looking at this opportunity. Definitely. I would say, you know, our coaches do such a great job at that, and just getting me in there in different positions on the field, and just trade being the type of player he is. You know, whoever is on the field, you know, we're both going to do our job, so I'll go forward to it. Tony Gervin, fuck out, how do you... You try to do, you've got games to focus on. I have you thought about what's going to happen next year, where are you going to be? No, as a right now, I'm just looking forward to this next game, and trying to win it all. Any help for Quintcha? Kevin News. Fuck out, how do I know it's looking back, but you didn't have a chance to ask you, what's going through your mind on the first script, where your first touch on is,

1:26:34when the exchange between you and Will, and the ball on your end, what's the thought there? I actually thought he was going to pull it a ball, and I kind of felt it, and I just got an instinct, so I just kind of grabbed it and just took it my best. Any help for Quintcha? Great, Quintcha, thank you very much. I mean, there's always people that's going to be coming in and trying to do what you did in the past, so I'm looking forward to it, and like I said, I mean, we're just all excited to go out there and compete. Okay, well, anyway, the fact that the way that this D-N-France has additions on every level, and talk about chasing the Quintcha line and the traffic there, you guys have willing to second level in the third level, to go on with Sean and the rest of them. How much pressure is on the D-N-France to perform to the higher level of respect, and the rest of them? Right, I would say that last year was, you know,

1:27:35we excelled in certain things, but we were also trying to get back to where we were in the past, so we got some great additions, and we're excited for that. Ultimately, it's to use some of these guys to be the number one defense in the league, and that's always going to be the goal. So whatever we can do to utilize all the different talent that we have on this team to be the best and play as a team, and to build the best chemistry that we got, that's what we're going to do. What's the end of the game about this offense? Just early, this early in the game, what's the end of the game? Yeah, we're not used to going against the normal offense I have been the past three years, so it's been a lot more moving pieces. Definitely have to use your eyes pretty well, because if not, then somebody's going to be open. But I like what they're doing. I'm very excited for it. I just know it's making our defense a little bit better, because we're having to do different things, not just the normal offense we've been used to.

1:28:36I was going to say just because every other team has some variations that they were going to miss, does that kind of do you think that'll kind of benefit you, because you've seen that more than the rest of it? I would say so. I mean, as the league has changed over time, I think they revert to certain offenses that do well in certain systems. I would say we're taking maybe a little bit pieces from other offense that we see to do well. I like what we're doing. I don't know as much as some of these quarterbacks that we have on the team, some of the offensive players, but I just know it's tough to go against. I'm lowest at number last year, but still one of the top teams scoring the defense. What do you guys really need to do to finish getting after the quarterback? I would just say place heavy emphasis in practice. It's always going to start in practice with getting after the quarterback, not touching him in practice, but making some good moves. I would just say rush more. I mean, there's so much that goes into it,

1:29:36it goes with the coverage. Everybody works together. I would say that we had great numbers, but we are trying to get that number up, but the ultimate goal is always going to be the ball. Getting the ball taken away, getting off the field, we're putting our offense out there on the field, and we're staying off that means that we're doing a good job. I'm already asked about it for my competition standpoint. But for my collective standpoint, having you wins a margin, we're going to feel what kind of a trio can do for a defense. This guy's a limit with this group. I do believe we have one of the most talented linebacker core groups in the league, so just excited what we're going to be able to do out there on the field. I think we all compliment each other super well, bigger guys that are explosive, so I'm excited for it. And also, I want to take a moment and thank and show respect for Coach Farrant and what he's been able to do at Iowa.

1:30:36It's unbelievable. In some ways, it's sad that 11 years has become the exception in college football, but what he's been able to do at the University of Iowa is super impressive, and I wanted to congratulate him and all his success. So open up the questions. We got first row on your right side. Kenneth Berry, touchdowns and tangents. Hey, Kenneth. How's it going? Good morning. Coach, in all your years, you look back at the Vanderbilt year where you guys had a record-breaking season, you look at the role's bowl, and what's safe on it, everything. How close do you feel like this team is, and how much do you feel like they mirror the character and the identity of those teams? And this being your 11th year in the conference, how good is it feel seeing the influx of African-American head coaches? Not only just getting jobs across the landscape, but the big 10,

1:31:36pretty much leading all of the conferences with a number of African-American head coaches that are currently present. Yeah, I'll answer the second part first. I love the fact that the big 10 is one of the leaders in this space. I think that sends a very, very clear and loud message that people are going to be judged by their work and their production. And I think the big 10 is a great example of that. Obviously, something that myself and Mike Loxley and a lot of the guys take a ton of pride and have done a ton of work on his well. And hopefully that becomes more of the trend across college football as well as the NFL. Just spent some time the other day with Rahim Morris, who is one of my best friends. He was the defensive coordinator at Kansas State when I was the offensive coordinator. He's now the head coach of the Atlanta Falcons getting a second chance, which is also not common.

1:32:36So I think that's powerful. I think that's about our team and maybe some of the similarities to some of the teams that we had at Vanderbilt and over our time at Penn State as well. I think it starts with the three gentlemen that we brought with us to this event. Guys that are experienced guys, guys that have had a ton of success on the football field, they've handled themselves the right way academically on and off the field. And have won a ton of games. They're guys that embrace that were in a place like Penn State where we've been able to consistently for the most part win 10 to or 11 games. But that's not the expectation at Penn State. They chose Penn State just like I chose Penn State to compete for championships. And we embrace that. But we are one of the few programs in the country you can win 10 or 11 games and people are unhappy. So we embrace that. We're excited about those opportunities. And it starts for us at West Virginia in Morgan town, which is going to be a challenging opening game.

1:33:38First row here. Good morning coach Nick Hamilton, I cast media. Hey Nick. How you doing? Good. Once I ask you about Abdul Carter, him changing positions from linebacker to defensive. And how much do you feel like that will strengthen your defense this season and also? How does that play Kate as far as throughout the locker room as far as taking that type of role being a leader in the locker room? Yeah, so I think first thing is he'll play both. We have the flexibility to play in at both positions. He's one of the unique athletes and that was playing linebacker 250 pounds. And you never know how that transition is going to go playing in space at the linebacker position compared to moving up. You know, to the line of scrimmage and having to go against offensive tackles, he made the adjustment, you know, pretty quickly. And at the end of the day, you're talking about one of the more explosive physical athletes in all of college football.

1:34:42So we think he's got a chance to make a significant impact week to week. We'll decide where he's going to have the most impact for us. Whether it's on the line of scrimmage at defensive end or in the linebacker position this spring, he's stayed mainly at defensive end to get comfortable with that. And then after that, we had a really good conversation. He's open to doing both. That'll also put us in a position where people can't gain playing and know exactly where he's going to be on the defense. So we're excited about that. But he's just, he's really grown up. I'm proud of him and his development academically as a student athlete, as well as a football player. And we need him and expect for him to have a huge year for us. Got a very, very close relationship with him and his father. And I'm proud of him. I'm excited about what he's going to do this year. On your left side. James Bill Rabino, it's in the Columbus dispatch. Hey Bill. You got Julian Fleming as a transfer for Ohio State.

1:35:43How excited are you to have him? What kind of impact do you expect him to have for receivers unit of it? It wasn't all that exposed to last year. Yeah, he's a veteran guy that's played in this conference. He knows what it's all about. Obviously, you know, we got a ton of history with him and his family. Recruited them very heavily out of high school. But he's thriving. He's very comfortable. He's very confident. He really came. Got on campus. Like most guys should do. Kept his mouth shut, worked, earned everybody's respect through that first. And now he's really developing into a leader for us. His improvement from the end of spring to now. He is healthy and lean and explosive and fast right now. And just from the feedback from the players over to summer. Has really done a nice job looking all the metrics and the numbers from our strength staff.

1:36:43Is in a really good position. I think he's got a huge chip on his shoulder and excited about the opportunity at Penn State. And has really turned into one of the leaders in that wide receiver room. So we're happy to have him and expect for him to do some big things for us this year. And I appreciate the question. Last year on your right side. Coach Franklin Kyle Golick, Mike Ferrell sports. Hey Kyle. Hey, how are you? Good. Hey, tell Mike I said hi. We'll do. Hey, you mentioned earlier about Southern Kyle, Oregon, UCLA, Washington. Joining the league after the 2018 Ohio State game. You had your what I refer to as the epic good to great to elite brand. So with these teams coming in, where do you feel Penn State stands in the pecking order? And a follow up if you don't feel Penn State's quite at it. Elite, where do you what do you think the Niten lines have to do to achieve the elite status?

1:37:46Yeah, I would describe it as a speech, not a rant. First of all. But no, I think, you know, again, back to the comment earlier. You're talking about a program that you can win 10 or 11 games and people are not happy or satisfied. And that's inside the lash building and that's outside of lash building. We totally get that and embrace that. I think our players understand that when we recruit them. Our staff understands that when we hire them. And as the head coach, I embrace all those things as well. I think Week in and Week out, the big 10 is arguably the best conference in all of college football. I've been fortunate to be a head coach in the SEC as well as the big 10s. I think I got good perspective on that. And then like you mentioned, adding the four new schools makes it even more challenging. So we'll have an opportunity to figure that out and figure that out real quick starting at West Virginia.

1:38:46We're fortunate to play most of those teams that we discussed. We want to play those teams that you discussed, both that have been in the conference historically as well as that have been added. For us, we got to play our best when our best is needed most in the biggest games at the biggest moments. And I think if you look at us specifically last year, did some phenomenal things. I think it's the steps that we need to take in having a returning start in quarterback. Obviously helps with that. We're a quarterback driven game, whether it's in the NFL college or high school. And having a returning quarterback at that position that did some phenomenal things. I think he was second in touchdown, the interception ratio. I think he broke the national record in completions without an interception. So did did some phenomenal things. We got to build on that. And then I think the pieces that a puzzle around him, tight end, running back.

1:39:47And then receivers been the big question mark really since last year. We got a ton of confidence in that room. Those guys got a huge chip on their shoulder back to the question earlier about the addition of Julian Fleming as well as the guys in that room. They've had a great summer and we got a ton of confidence of what they're going to do this year. We're going to have to play well early on, build confidence and carry that confidence throughout the season. Coach Franklin, thank you so much for your time. Thank you, sir. That was a really wow. You know, it's impressive. What do you say to make Tim? I guess it's just natural. I don't know. I just like, how do you explain that? Yeah, I mean, I don't know. Smarrows that he chooses to practice doing that, whether it's at home in the mirror or something. You know what I mean? I don't know how he visualizes, but he just gets it done. What do you do that first drive in the second half and they drive all the way down the field? You have that past deflection and then zone. Yeah. What's kind of going through your head? I know you want to limit it to three if anything. Yeah.

1:40:47Are you limit it to zero instead? Yeah, well, just just just tendencies going throughout the week, being prepared. I kind of had a good feeling. You know, being a work on a field, I kind of figured he was going to pick on me so I was high alert all week. Do you know the last time that the Cardinals as an organization did not allow a touchdown in three straight home games? No, I didn't even know that's crazy. No, yeah. I feel like, man, I just speak to the leaders that we have in our deepened so room, man. They really take this game serious and I really appreciate that. That was 1926. That was the last time that the Cardinals had a touchdown. Yeah, he used to it, man. We got some cooking out here, man. Do you want to take a steal? Man, I was just playing bar, man. It's kind of crazy because games like this when you just leave the field and you're just like, wow, man. We're just playing bar, so I can't even walk you through the play by a play, man. I was just, you know, locked in the other guys playing on me today. And I don't want to be the weakest league, man. JT was down and me coming in, there should be no drop off and it wasn't so. Man, it was crazy, but I couldn't stop smiling in the locker room earlier when I found out.

1:41:50So it's just a real moment, man. And my older guys got me ready for this moment, so that's off to them. You're probably the steepest. I guess you guys are playing right now. I bring violence to the game and they bring it with me, man. So I told my group before we went out to the day, man. We seeing red all day today and that's what we did, man. We had a great game today. It feels so good, man. I'm not going to lie, it feels amazing. You talk about that, but I said something, JG French. So long we get on me, yeah. What does it say about you, man? Man, just the preparation we put in throughout the week, the way we practice, the way we take care of our bodies, the way that we meet, the way we communicate, man. It's like it's one heartbeat out there, man. That's how it should be every week. Is it preparation that pre-game meal you make? I did have my spaghetti today, too, yeah. I told you I got to have every game, man. I don't feel the same. It's like rabbit fuel, man. So it's preparation, man. The superstitions, man, the people have it for the game. It's just it's a mental thing. That's the inner day is ball. Ball is always going to be ball. I'm just going to be a real quicker.

1:42:50Just take a step. What does it say to get the pre-game meal? I get the spaghetti. They ain't had a pepper flakes for the pommas, y'all. So I just had ranch today, yeah. But yeah. Forgetting and ranch, man. They'd be saying it's nasty, but I think it's good. Yeah. So I don't think everybody knows it, but somebody did ask, I recommend it. But you can't put too much ranch or too little ranch. You've got to have a good proportion on it. So ranch on pizza. Oh, ranch on everything. Ranch on everything. And if I'm at the house, I'm putting ranch on my steak. I can't do that steak house, but if the house I'm doing it, yeah. Yeah. It's like country boy, man. I'm going to do it for some more of us. You know, I've done some great things at Ole Miss, and I've learned a lot. But I think just for me and my third year, you know, you want to be somewhere in a complete cycle of high-o'-state, like I said, great culture, great teammates, great coaches, best players, and the best fan base. So you want to do the NFL draft at all rate on somewhere in the field, and maybe get an old record, perhaps.

1:43:50I mean, just as far as just being a player, you want to be around coaches that put you in a position to, you know, elevate yourself as a player and show more to your game. So I think Coach Day and Coach O'Brien will do that for sure. You know, you're just going to do what you're good at, and you're kind of pitched to your inventory and pull it. Just being all around back, you know, like just doing it all really, you know, not just being, burning the ball inside between the tackles or outside, you know, just giving me a ball in the passing game, just showcasing everything that I can do as a player. What did you see from Coach O'Brien? You know, I've seen Coach O'Brien, you know, what he, what he coached, I played against Alabama in 2022. So I played against him in high-used, generic gives, and I've seen a lot of that being those things, and also his career, and with the Patriots as well. So seeing how he's coaching, you know, so really good. Has he talked about like his role, the role that he's doing for the soft-man's role? Yeah, he's came and he spoke to the team about, you know, him as a coach, who he is, and how you play against him, probably everyone in what his role is, so it's really good.

1:44:53I think I run tough, very elusive, fast, you know, I have vision, patience, I can make people listen, I run you over, I can catch up, you know, it's very different. Do you want to be spending trade-on with your style? I think just with trade-on, we're kind of, I don't know how to explain it. I would say, you know, he's good at what he does, and I'm good at what I do. So, you want to say that? Yes sir, yes sir, good. Which makes sense? I don't know. What makes you so hard to have? I think just my will, you know, my will to want to win the determination to get into the end zone and just help my team win. Came out of high school, you knew of an vision to your school, to your young line, sitting there at high school, and you know, like, you know, actually, you know, I did not, you know, as you go through your

1:45:57journey through high school and through college, you don't know where you end up as. I'm just blessed, very thankful for everyone that has helped me to get through this, you know, this process to be here and I'm excited. This is a positive side of the tricky, poiled age, and you go somewhere, you have success there, but you're able to then kind of another step before you go. Yeah, definitely, I feel like, you know, there's many things that are thrown out there as far as when players go into the portal and things that aren't true, but, you know, it's actually more than that. And players just want to elevate their game and show them what they are. I imagine that people will miss their own wonderful programs and the best of them. Yeah. Oh, kind of reaction. Did you get to the news? Yeah. It was crazy, you know, a lot of different things that were, a lot of different emotions, but it's a bit, it's a bit, it's a bit, so you understand it. You know, people won't always be happy for the decisions you make when it's best for yourself, but like I said, I'm just excited to be here and do what I can and I want to know.

1:46:57I suppose you can do what I can. You know, definitely not a factor for me. I think just me as a player, I just played football at the end of the day. I go out there and contribute to what I can do for my team and that's what I'm going to say. How much did you know about big-kin football coming in and sent out a little study if you had to pick up? You know, I did not know that it was this big of a factor. You know, you always see it on TV when they play games on Saturdays and it's big. It's a lot of fans and like I said, everybody's passionate, but when you're hitting it, it's a whole new ball game, so really excited. Did you have to just skip past that at all and decide to come to a big-ten school or, you know, with a northern part of the country, like was that an adjustment? No. No, not really. I would say it was probably just only a little cold, but other than that, though, it was an awesome process. I think that wasn't a factor for me. What do you think about Will Howard and kind of quarterback you think of? I think Will Howard is a great quarterback. He's a great player.

1:47:57I see him as a vision. He can use his legs. He can also throw as well. He's very smart and just looking at his film and what he's doing at Kansas State is awesome. For you, the running backwards that you've been doing at the quarterback, is it a little threat for you? It's very good to be in that position because not only will he open it up for you, also, but he also gives the receiver the chance to be able to be using the pass. You jump from the place that has a pretty big round for him. I'll have to be at Mo. Right. I'm going to play for some of the round. How much did you know about the highest position right now? I'm going to talk about it. It was a big time. I've always heard a lot about it, but to be here and you see how big it is, I've got the clock in there with the countdown. It's serious. I'm excited to be the team up north and that's what we're working for. You're playing in the show, man. Right. You were here in the dressing room again. Yeah, definitely a great player. Like I said, everyone that was coming here, this portal class, great players from all around the different teams and Caleb personally, you know, he's done some great things at Alabama and we're excited to have them. For you, I'm going to play in the show.

1:48:57How much did you know about the first three? You knew it was going to be a fight? Right. When we played in a way more so, we had a different fall game plan. We were trying to throw the ball and he's very successful there. I stopped it and so I was pretty good. Which of you are some of your favorite running backs that you like to watch? I like having a Camara, Christian McCaffrey. I would say also, I like Jumir Gives that Detroit as well. So just those three guys right there, I've been doing some great things at the club level. Those three guys are too high. You've already had it. You have some. Not all around the game. How important is that as part of your doing career? I think it's definitely important, especially where the game is going with running backs in today's game. I think it's overall, you have to showcase what you can do, not just ask. I ran it back in the back field, but also in the slot or wherever, though you can call just but you be able to execute. What's the other kind of progression? That's definitely important as well too.

1:49:57For me personally, that's important for me personally, but it's important as well. I think it's an exception for some of the people having a track for the outside of the game. What do you think is that? Like I say, like about NIL or different things that don't pertain to everybody's situation. It doesn't pertain to every single player, but a lot of people get that speculation as far as when people want to make certain decisions here in the quarter. But we know it's always hard to find. I was a player when you came to Mississippi, and you know, this, and maybe that decision I understand you see some of these things going forward. Some of them are from the movement, and I don't know how it would be different over track as well. I don't know if they can make a decision, but it's actually a team field that you got to try at least for. Yeah, you know, just do this whole process. This is my first time ever going through this, and like I said, many things were said, you know, just the rumors and all of those things, but I think just throughout this process, I've learned a lot, I'm very thankful for the support I've had for my family,

1:50:59because it's throughout this process, and just to end up here in Ohio State, it's been awesome. Other than the revenue, that's the greatest adjustment to being in that field? Is it just locking in the audience to see what people come in with the most? I wouldn't say that. I think it's just more so, you know, just the whole thing, like, I was saying just the other thing, the culture. That's what the more improved that is, the better it should be. I haven't recently just got here, so I haven't found too much like different places yet, because I've been trying to hold man and be acclimated, but I'll for sure find some help spots. What are your impressions of Will? I mean, I know that Stan's you're going to have a backfield potentially transverse running back trans. Before the back-out, I'm going to do you guys to talk to him through this recruiting process, the transfer process. Yeah, I mean, when I got here, you know, me and Will, we've always been in contact. You know, I just check on each other hanging out, no matter what it is, just having that personal connection with each other off the field,

1:52:00and having that relationship. So, it's a great time. Did you ever, during the field fish with Trey, when you were talking about thinking about coming here, did you ever see the fish with Trey, is that what you was doing? Like I said, I think with the time that I was in the portal, it was such a short amount of time in the process. So, I think, you know, just trying to decide on where I wanted to go. I wasn't really focused on contacting anyone. And you've been to Ohio, at the airport? No. There have been so many. I think you know where it was. Yeah. But nobody was by there have been so. Okay, please. You know, he's a member of the Center for Alliance, except for you to stay alive. You know that? Yeah. What's that process like from, from your point of view, where all of the things that might be happening, so the point is? Yeah, when everything, I agree. I think, you know, when everything's moving so fast, you have to stay poised as a player and focus on the things that matter, that will put you in the best position.

1:53:00And I think that's what it's really about for me in my process. Who was here about Trey on the entire moment? What's that all-time job that you started with the major issues that you've been doing? Yeah, you know, that definitely plays a factor, especially in today's game with the five-span of run backs in the NFL. So I think that, you know, with the, like I said, the situation here just being able to come here and contribute to this team and do what I can when it all. What you're trying to mention, is that you're trying to get your team to be real? I'm curious, you know. You know, like I said, any way that I could contribute to the team and do what I can to show and execute, that's what matters. You know, you're giving it all the time. You do it the way that it's ready. And there's a little bit of carries up there too. You like that and you think of that part of the curve, you know, you said from the outside of the go, and you can't come there. Yeah, and not just that team as well. It's many other teams that do the same thing, you know. And I think it's just really special

1:54:00that what they've done together, just seeing how they play together, how far they come in the season. So it's really special to see. And not just that, but how much I'm going to carry today in times last year, and having a quarterback that can run, or the two running bags, and then is that how much of that except you to have a side field with that option on the off-season? It's very exciting just to know we have so many weapons and so many different ways to win the game. So it's very exciting, and I'm looking forward to it for sure. How are you going to be able to start thinking about the trend in time and time? And so I think it's an advantage. It's probably like, how do you start to rationalize that decision that you're going to be able to start next? I don't think it's something that you, more so, just specifically, think of, but I think it's something that's important in today's game that has to be valued as well. Did you feel like you were overused at Ole Miss? How would you describe it? I wouldn't really say overused. I don't think that's the word. I think, you know, just when you're playing, you don't focus on those different type of things, but, you know, like I said, you don't really talk about it. There was much made though

1:55:00about using the way that I'm meeting with Coach Kidd. There was something about the direction of the offense. How much of that was true, I'm going to say it. Was it any of that true or just, you know, what was that all about? No, that's true. But I got to say, man, like a lot of people, they won't be happy when you make certain decisions for yourself, but just to sign it up. Did you enter it thinking, oh, how I was state, I just walked up here a second ago, but you probably went all over this, but when did Ohio State get on your radar? Impossible, but anything's wrong. Just an unnoticed deal maybe. Immediately when I got on the portal, you know, I think, like I said, this is the place that you want to go to, a place where everyone's passionate and everyone wants to win here, you know, and it's a great culture and everyone is focusing out and into, to do something that's bigger than themselves, you know. Why wouldn't you want to go someplace like that? A lot of people are saying you and trivia on it and saying backfield and even having Dale in there,

1:56:01there's my people best running back, three in the country. Is there two of them? Do you feel that way also a lot? Definitely. I feel like, you know, with everyone in our room, they contribute in their own way, and everyone is a great player in our room, so I definitely agree. What's your answer about how that is being in the field of music, so I'll say, what's the answer to everybody? Review what it is. I just swear I like on something down, it wasn't just how it was going to go. Yeah, I think, more so for me, it wasn't about, like, this is where I want to go immediately, but I think that, I wanted to make my process pretty short, especially when I got in at a later time, because I had to be in the world in school. So I think just more so, just figuring out where I wanted to go, and, you know, making that decision so it's possible. What was it on the field of music? Just, like I say, the meetings, what Coach Day, everything that I was showcased, this is just the place that you want to be. Two quickies, the name, one shot, where's that come from? That was the came from, my parents. Yeah, I know, but I mean, is there a background for you?

1:57:01Of course there is. Of course there is. Of course there is. But, um, I really don't know, I've never asked my parents that much to me, actually. Yeah. And then, in the particular hairstyle, what's that, what's the juice? I came up with this hairstyle in a march of last year, so I just decided when they, I was like, okay, I want to die. I just went with it. I got a lot of great compliments, so I kept it the same way. Blondes get more, Blondes have more fun, or have more runs. I would say more runs. Yeah, we're getting hair loss. Yeah. And, um, and I expect a huge difference, because, um, especially in terms of the why we're going to have more hair loss. Right? Um, um, they want to know that, um, I don't think that, we have more hair loss, but we have more hair loss. It is here. It's here. It's here. I think, except that, it breaks that. You know, I embrace it well, you know, that's what everyone here works hard for. And that is the, the in-call, is not to get a certain amount of wins. That's the goal.

1:58:01That's what everyone here for, to win the National Championship. So I take it seriously. Um, everyone here is bought in, you know, whatever it takes to get that in. That's what everyone is trying to do. You got to accept it. You got to accept it. It's the first time. Check it out. One minute, one minute. You got to accept it. One minute, one minute. You got to accept it. You got to accept it. One minute, one minute. One minute. One minute. One minute. One minute. You know, you don't focus on things, like I say. The most important thing is playing football, especially for me, not the NIL. That was, that was, like, you know, something that I was focusing on. You know, just going out there playing football, doing what I did. I'm just curious, I'm sure you could have gone for a lot of places with the big guy, you're running faster, you're up here and coming in and sharing the loads of training. You know, I think just more so, the situation here, like I said, just coming here, being not only with trade, but just great players all around and being able to execute and contribute to this team and do what I can to help us when that was most important.

1:59:02Was there any thought about, like, you know, taking some tread off your tires, like knowing that you have had somebody carry for the first two years? I think just, like I said, like in today's game, there's something that is important for Renna back, you know, to be able to value and to think about as far as the shelf life and things like that. But, you know, just in my situation, come here, that was the most important. Thank you. Thanks for the presentation. The peak mentality of problem of instant gratification, you know, you can develop and grow. So, and sometimes you may be, and behind a guy that's a really good player, there's nothing wrong with developing and growing and playing when your time is right. And if the time is right right now, it's a freshman, like what's your name? Did you play early, you know? So we try to also sell that, you know, we care about them as people and try to prepare you for life after football. So it's bigger than just football. We're going to prepare you for life, whether it's the NFL or on with a regular career in the workforce. We want you to prepare you as a young man and we try to sell that and preach that to the parents.

2:00:02With Germain having that impact, you mentioned, pulling all these different spots. Do you anticipate, you know, there wasn't a lot of rotation among the cornerbacks last year when everyone was healthy? Do you anticipate maybe growing him through the rest guys here with the long-verse season, potentially? Yeah, we play it by here. You know what I mean? We see how it goes by the time we get in the camp. But, you know, obviously, he's earning his stripes. So, you know what I mean? You earn your stripes, you know, a lot of jobs to create an opportunity for you. You know what I mean? We have to see how it goes with all that other stuff. You know, once we get closer to the season, and we're getting the game plan stuff, but he's doing a great job and he's taking a great step forward. Tim, when you're the way that you've been building the room, or the way you've kind of established your room now, it seems like it's been, like, some of the pieces of relationships and kind of building bonds. But I'm curious, is that something that you came in with the, like, a couple years ago, with the intention of viewing, or is it something that you're like, that's kind of been cultivated over the course of your Thomas position, both here and the guys. No, it's been there for a while. I've been doing that for a long time. It's all about relationship. If you develop real relationship, and you're authentic in your communication,

2:01:02and you have honest feedback, and you have, you know, direct teaching, the guys that have value and character and they appreciate that stuff, they're embrace that. So, but they have to know you care, and you have to know that it's real, and they have to know that you're really concerned about where being as a young man, and when you get close to him, it's been a lot of time with him off the field. You could coach him hard, and you can say truthful things to him, and then they embrace it, and you can have real conversation, because you know, the only goal is to help them get better as a young man. As you see, a couple years ago, I think those have told us that the received room is so far ahead of the border, it's kind of skewed down evaluations on high-risk. How's that dynamic change in these two years? As the scoop's gotten older, and you've been better, even more talented. Yeah, it's done balanced up a little bit now. That goes with great competition. We go against the best receivers in college football. So, that helps escalate your growth process, because if you don't figure it out real fast, you're getting embarrassed. So, that competition, but what happened with that, I guys start competing, I guys start growing,

2:02:02I guys got better, and now it's even up a little bit. So, where you get really good work at practice today, you know what I mean? So, as competitive, it's fun. Those guys both on both sides of the ball care about each other. So, it's great competition, and they all are real close. So, you know what I mean? It's that stuff that gets us better, that will prepare us for Saturday. I asked Denzel, kind of like this, that same idea. He said, well, like, first day of practice, actually, the receivers kind of got them, because I didn't kind of, but they wake up call me for this, for this, for this. I know, it's just, it's gonna competitive, man. They got the best group in the country, that you're going against every day. So, you have to bring it every day, you know what I mean? So, we got a great quarterback room, we got a great receiver room, the running backs are really good. So, when you, out there going against them, is deep. So, you have to be ready for it. And obviously, man, we seeing a lot of good stuff with, with, with, with, with, stay in Coach Kelly, doing over there, and so, it prepares you a lot. And it helps us grow. So, why are you in a room playing kind of an Sasha for green picture? Is that? Is, is, is the, you're, you're, you're,

2:03:02a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a white receiver room kind of, like, a part of your green picture, like, these are the guys you get to play against. Yeah, all of that, cause, you know, that's where you get better, our shop is our, so, you know, you get to see that every day at practice, that helps you grow, it's no better, uh, thing to go against every day than to see that on a daily basis. I'm also near room massage store, if you're looking at, to play that reckless ball. Uh, we just moving a lot of guys around. If you watch our practice, we have a lot of guys in there right now. You know, we pop up. There are four different guys in there, Obviously the ring's old in there, Jameen is in there, Caleb. Miles, we have about four or five guys moving around. Right now we just try things out and spring ball. See what it fit, you know, see what things work together. So it's gonna probably be some more guys in there. You know, we move it around and try to just get the right fit throughout the N and C. How it goes by the time we get ready to start the season. What's in the sound about Calvin Simpson? He can run any strong, you know what I mean? He's fast, very serious about his business. He's big, he's 200 pounds, he can run, he's strong, he's conscientious, and that means he's starting to grow and he's starting to get better with it. You know what I mean?

2:04:03So we look for big things for him to spring. What do you wanna see from here? This spring. Keep competing, you know what I mean? Now he's made the transition competing today. You know what I mean? He's started going in, that transition is all just like I'm in Jameen last year. You throw him in the fire, you let him go, you compete, you go by the time we get out of the end of training camp, you have to be them figured out, yeah, I want that. But now you just throw it all at him. compete, continue to grow, continue to learn. He has the skill set, he has the length. Now you just gotta put it all together and it takes time to do that. And hopefully you see that by the time we get in the training camp. It seems like a midway through spring can kind of click for Jameen last year and you start to see and perform a little better in practice. Is that like a benchmark for where you want here and to be by the middle of spring? Does he have to be in a certain point where you want it to start clicking? Yeah, by the time you start getting about two weeks from now, that last week, you know, because it takes time, there's a lot of stuff going on. But you know by the time you get into that last week of spring ball, you look to start seeing the things that you look for show up. And then you know you get another evaluation again, we'll get in the training camp. See if this stuff carried on to make sure we go up

2:05:03for starting in September. What's your assessment of the growth that we've made now that he's kind of got his feet under one defense? What do you like about him and that nickel spot? He's very conscientious, he's smart, he can run, he's tough. He's made the adjustment because he's out of Europe on his belt. So now you can see he's not making a lot of mistakes, he competes, he's real conscientious. And he has a physical presence. So the growth has been really good and we look to continue that throughout spring. Coach, that's a great mic. I can ask one more. All the guys that came back like Denzel, the great example, because that surprised you as you reflect on all these guys that came back late to the rinse and they could have turned pro. No, the culture here is real. Coach, they does a great job of building the culture. Our room is close knit. The guys on defense are real close. Those guys want to come back, they have an agenda. You know, we want to come back, they want to come back and walk away with something. So it didn't shock me, but it's a good environment for them too. You know what I mean? That's when you see those guys come back. That's a testimony to the culture that's set here,

2:06:05their brotherhood, their environment. And of course, they run the program for those dudes to want to come back because we go at it, it's hard. It's not easy. It's not easy, but what we do. So the fact they come back and do that is a testament to how he runs the program. Coach Wong, thank you very much. I think my capability, what I'm capable of, and then the personnel we have, like I said, I'm trying to get the best level on the field, whatever that may be. So you're still trying to figure that out. Just the kind of conversation that's about, you may have been hard for you to keep your weight down the stage. Do you look bigger? How much have you changed physically? Are you allowed to just like finally eat now? What's the difference between you two? I mean, last year I was eating regular, like I was like two, three to two, thirty five the whole year last year. I don't know if people thought I was two, twenty five, but I was like two, thirty five sometimes last year. Like, so it's not really like anything changed. Obviously, I'm a graduate of the Gains some more weight. I'm listening heavier weight. It was different training to be a DB than training to be a linebacker.

2:07:06So you couldn't gradually get a little bigger. Do you, are you embracing that different kind of training? Yeah, I love it. I love it to be with the linebackers. I think with the DBs, like sometimes in the way, especially in the way room, like I was expected to win. So like when I won, I was like, oh, sunny one. Oh, well, but that was the linebacker now. It's like a more of a composition. You know what I'm saying? Not like, not any hits of the DBs. I'm, I'm two thirty going against someone who's two or five. Right. You know what I'm saying? So I love the competition. I asked me, yeah, Cody said you came in and said, well, he's already bigger than most of the linebackers. Yeah. See, are you playing Will and Sam? Like how was the position? Uh, I've been working on both, yes. Is there any, like, fundamental difference between the two in terms of both? Um, I mean, obviously the standard more outside the box, outside the linebacker overhang. Uh, you walked up on the edge on the tight end, uh, Will's more inside the box. Uh, I think the biggest difference from Sam and Will, Sam, you just got to be more outside sometimes during the slot

2:08:07with two, you know, but I think it's similar concept. Cause you can do the same thing in the boundary. It's almost more like the San Francisco field than Will's at the boundary. So I think it's, I think it's pretty similar, honestly. The only difference is that Sam, last year, I never really was an interior run fitter, like in the A gap, you know, going A to B or whatever that, whatever that might be. So that's a little different. But I mean, I think I got some of that experience at safety just from a few yards back. So like I said, the only difference really is now is just adjusting to less time. Yeah, Coach, yeah, Coach, how's it? Uh, you coming from where you, like you're coming from? You have a better perspective of what's going on. Cause you played safe. Yeah, yeah. I feel like I have a great understanding of the defense. I think at safety, I kind of already knew what the linebacks are doing. So now what I'm really starting to learn is like exactly like every little detail what the D line's doing. That's not really what I didn't know every little aspect of it. I think I'm starting to learn that now. Cause obviously the lineback, you've got to be knowing that more. So I think when it's all said, no, I think we have a really, really good understanding of the defense and knowing exactly what everyone's doing.

2:09:07Do you feel like you're warm enough there more in the mix of the deepness to that lineback here. It sounds exciting because you can be dropping one minute pass rested. You mean, I think some of that anyway, but yeah, actually said, I think you can say it'll be an linebacker in the play. You're almost in every play. Yeah, obviously the play can run away from you. But you know, it's safety. Sometimes you're just back there playing every guest. You take two back pedals and it's a tackle. So I think yeah, a linebacker, you're in the play more. More chance more opportunities to make tackles. Do you feel comfortable there? I mean, what does that, you know, obviously your dad. I'm staying out like a record. Yeah, I feel super comfortable with it. Like I said, I think it's just going to be adjustment. You know, obviously it's different playing from a five than it was from playing from like 10 last year. So I think it's an adjustment, but I'm super comfortable with it. So any of you top here, dad, have you given you any advice on the new position? Oh, yeah, we watch, we watch the table all the time. Watch practice. You know, he was a high level linebacker and I'm just getting started with this. He gets a little little footwork and stuff like that, but it's good. I get good teaching him, you know, obviously coach Lord Knight is great player, great teacher for him, coach knows.

2:10:10He's a super smart football mind. So I'm getting great teaching all around. The lightbacker, everything happens quicker for you. How much did the experience playing some of that Sam's stuff? Ice or help with this? I think it helped a little bit. Let's just be like in terms of the physicality of being in the box down on the line. But I do think the the run fit as a will and a Sam can be a little different. Like in terms like I said, like being an interior fitter, like your 30 backer, you get pools, now you gotta go spill it, so things like that. But I think I'm adjusting well. I think I'm picking up on stuff pretty fast. You know, there's still going to be a lot of stuff to work on though. Do you feel more pressure talking to the media with your brother sitting right there? Not at all. What do you think has been the biggest change from linebacker to safety plan backer? Um, I think the biggest change will probably be that that's 10 to 5. Because it's a big adjustment because everything's happening faster and you gotta react faster.

2:11:14And like I said, the waist movements, I think footwork is huge. I think you see the great linebackers. As soon as the play happens, they're going. They're not taking any waist steps or not fall stepping, things like that. So I think waist and waist movement and being able to see what's happening, reacting fast. It's been the biggest benefit of being on the same team with your brother? Um, I mean, you know you got someone out there that's, it's more than a team. We call each other brothers, but you know, bloods, bloods a little thicker. So that's always pretty cool. It's always, it's never 101. Yeah, but when he tells you something, he doesn't observe what you, you know, it's coming from. Yeah, I think when you're blood like that, I think he's not scared of telling me the truth, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. You know, obviously guys here, we have tough love, but I think it's always going to be a little different when it's your brother. Because he's going to keep it 100% blood exactly what you need to hear and that what you want to hear. What's your advice on playing Dickel? Oh, for him. Yeah. Um, I mean, he just so I've let it he got you just keep trusting his instincts. I think he's going to be great.

2:12:14Uh, I think what's huge for him is like I said, the athletic ability speed. You know, he bliss off the edge. He's, he's been blissing super fast. Um, and he's just great in covers too. So I think it's going to be really good. I think we're going to do a lot of different things. Kind of like you see a hand caught. Obviously a little different body than a hand caught, but. I think he's going to be really good at once. It's not feel. He's needs, he's needs his time. Thank you. Great. What have you seen for Jaden? He's time. We saw him on Saturday running with the ones with the two. Seems like he's making a little bit of his opportunity with what have you seen for him? Yeah, he's been a guy that's been on the rise, you know, to me from where he was when he started. Spring ball to where he is now. He's made more plays at practice. His eye discipline is better. His understanding of the defense is better, which allows you to be able to play free and be able to play fast. So that's what I've seen so far and I can I expect that to continue. What about Jaden when he played? How's he been? He's been great. He's been great. He first off, we do a thing where we track. How well you run to the ball every practice.

2:13:14One of the things that we grade, right? So you can talk about all the schematics that you want. Coach Knowles has all that. But if you're not running to the ball, you're not playing good defense, right? So we track that and he's one of the guys that every single practice is one of our highest grade guys running to the ball. So he's been awesome from an effort standpoint first. Attitude, he's in early. He puts the work in and he's made a bunch of plays out here. So now I'm excited about Jaden McClain for sure. You talking about running to the ball, do you mean like he's ball hockey really well in the back end or is it a nose for the football running game or both? Yeah, so we're really tracking effort and how hard a guy's playing from there is what we do. But I would say this too, he's been around the ball a lot, right? With his alley running and he's downing the ball and on a break through run or fitting gaps and things like that. And then he's got really good range in the post or the half too. So he's done a good job of both of those things. I guess all the above. Yeah, I do. I do. And you know, it's been an opportunity for you have a couple guys that are out there. So you're able to continue to grow the depth and be able to see what guys can do.

2:14:16And you have increased reps from that standpoint. So I do feel confident. You know, I feel confident in the guys that, you know, how they've performed so far this spring. And the guys that haven't been out there. I feel confident from what their abilities are, what I've seen on film. And then the mental preparation from that standpoint now would go back to refer to, you know, what late. And was like a couple years ago and taking that same blueprint. Yeah, he's done. I would say the mental side. I would say if you took he has really good physical skills. You see him when he walks on the field. I mean, he's a. Yeah, no doubt. I would say the mental side of the game, right? Really understanding what's the defense? What's my eye progression? Where do I fit into this chess piece? You know, what's my chess piece in this whole match that's happening? And yeah, I've been pleased with him and he's putting the work in to make sure he understands what's going on. Here for you is coach to hear all the changes you're going to do. I was just going to ask you what else. As a coach, what is it like working with us? I wouldn't say we're not saying it's great, right? And because his preparation is so high level, it challenges you as a coach to be an elite teacher, right?

2:15:22Because he's going to be on his game. It's like coaching a professional player, right? He understands the concepts in the game so well. He's put so much time into it. As a coach, you better be matching or equaling that, right? Going above and beyond that because if not, he's going to be a step ahead of the coach, right? So that's, it's been awesome to be able to push each other to make each other better. He's got a great understanding and feel for the game. He's a great young man. The work ethic is really high level. So every value that you would look for, not just for a skill or intangible thing. But who he is as a person, I can't say enough about who Caleb Downs is. It's been awesome. What's the next step for waiting then? We'll talk about the preparation that Caleb has. What is the waiting coming back from your final? Yep. Coming back from injury. What do you want to see from him? Maybe it's leadership. Maybe it's on the field. I don't know. What is it for you? Yeah, I think leadership is definitely something, right? He's a guy that's been there, done that. Has accomplished a lot, but not the goals that he wants to yet. So I would say from a leadership standpoint, holding guys accountable, and he's done that at a really high level.

2:16:22And then his own preparation. I've been impressed with, you know, if you're not taking as many physical reps, what are the mental reps that you're taking? And he's done a really good job of having daily routine, putting the time in, making sure that he's caught up with speed with everything. So I would say the off the field stuff is a step in the right direction. What did you take away from your experience last year as a coach for a year or a half? That since we last saw G9, you've been through multiple spring practices. What did you learn, something in your time, or when it was just, I think for you as a coach that you brought here to bring the safety of your mission? Yeah, I think that you learn different ways to be able to do things, whether it's taking the ball away or tackling methods, or, you know, the way that it's taught from other defensive coaches. So to learn from a different tree and thought process and philosophy, you know, I try to, I pride myself on being a teacher, which means that you better always be learning, right? Or you're getting behind. So I would say, yeah, just different ways to be able to maybe do similar techniques or things that have to be done from a defensive principal standpoint,

2:17:22and then, you know, bringing that to the table. As you step back and you say, okay, here's how I've always done it, or I've done it in the gym-null system, right? And then you're in a different defensive system, and how does that get executed? And then you can blend some of those or pick what you like from there. So a chance to reflect, I'd say. Did you feel like you accomplished what you wanted to away from the gym-null system? Did you feel like you were doing the gym-null system to bring it back to the gym-null system? Yeah, I mean, I think any time that you're, no matter where you're coaching, right? You have principles of defense and a way to be able to play defense, whether you're, how you tackle, or how you play the red zone, or different things like that. And there's metrics to be able to track that, and some improvement was made. Not enough of my opinion. You don't even move, there were strides from that standpoint. And then, yeah, when you come back into it, you say, okay, the system here has developed in a year that I was gone, right? And then maybe I'm able to develop a little bit as a coach too, and from a positional coach or a coordinator mindset, things like that. And then you're able to mesh ideas and come back, and you learn, hey, what's the new that's happened over a year? And then I was able to see the big 10 from the different lens as well. So I think that's valuable.

2:18:23Man, it's been a lot of fun down a few safeties on Saturday. Just kind of, how do you feel about your depth of that position right now? Yeah, it's something that, you know, we've addressed and say, hey, here's the guys that have played. Here's the guys that haven't played. Who's taking the reps right now? And how do we grow those guys? You know, from Mass standpoint. So I think that's a work in progress every single day. So I've been pleased with the guys. I think there's been a, you know, steadily on the rise approach from everybody in the room. You know, so I've been pleased with the guys and the progress that they've made. So I feel good about it. And I expect that to continue throughout spring, and then continue throughout summer and into fall camp, you know, from Mass standpoint. Yep. Or some of those guys that may not have played much of your senior, they're going to move this spring. Yeah. So I think it's taking advantage of the opportunity that he's had. Janel and McClean's taken an opportunity, you know, advantage the opportunity. Inky had a really good day today. You know, it's taking advantage of the opportunity. So the guys that, you know, are taking reps, you know, I'm pleased with watching those guys, you know, continue to progress, you know. And the Caleb, I think, is, you know, learned our system and done really well and gotten better every day. All right.

2:19:23Thank you. Thanks. Appreciate it guys. Coach Day's offense and Chip Kelly's offense is the same offense. It's kind of neat going back to the roots and the origin. They'd be understanding a new twist or why he called it how we did. And it's been great for the Titans. I'll leave it at that. Not to get too much in the scheme, but we've definitely benefited and me personally learning every day. Do you look at the, I guess, the most of it experience for your group. Is that true? Coach, you've heard other years, the emergency intensity, the Turkish are talking about. Yeah. I think, you know, awesome. That's a great question. I hope not. Right. I think, I think the energy was still there with a guy like Kate. Now, again, it might have been, like I said earlier, also it might have been, you know, the 3000 level course with, with Kate. Because he's ran that play for four years before I got him. Right now, it still might be the, what do I got to do? And yeah, I mean, I hope the guys feel that the energy's picked up because the urgency has.

2:20:24I mean, eight number eights, not in the room anymore. Great. We're going to play somebody in a couple months, right? And there's got to be a tie-down out there. Hopefully it's two, hopefully three tie-downs out there. So hopefully they feel the urgency's picked up. I believe that the roof is structured, but she's been in for a long time. But it felt like year after year, it was a long time. The better guy, the next one, the better guy, the next one, that's the thing. It's just dynamic. Is that the, you have to provide full leadership for the guys. You know what I mean? Is that out of the form? Is it you? Is that just G's job? Yeah, I don't know. I'm not going to put it all on you, right? But again, the leaders drive the culture. Whether it be G or whether it be Pat, who's been here for a long time and played a lot of football, or whether it be Will came in and said, no, this is what it should look like. I mean, I want those guys to take it and run with it. You know, on Saturdays, I'm in the box. I'm not cutting off the C guys. It's got to come from them. Now, again, my job is coaches to make them hear things they don't want to hear. You know, pushing to do things they don't want to do. So I'm certainly going to do that at times. I'll keep doing it.

2:21:24But they've done a great job of driving the culture. Keenan, you were in the room with Rick Kevin. Was in the offensive meeting room for so many years. Does this have a chip kind of get you guys back to where you guys were with Kevin? I know that the room has an offensive staff. You guys were kind of young last year. Now to have chip with that experience, is that kind of like what you guys have with Kevin? You know, some similarities. I think the comparison is that we're talking about Kevin Wilson and Chip Kellier, two of the brightest minds and offensive football in the last several decades. There are some similarities there. But yeah, I think it's a loud one coach day. Maybe to delegate to Coach Kellier and let him be the best version of himself. And Coach Kellier has been an awesome leader, right? Of driving us and listening and providing input. So it's been great. I don't know if it's exactly like it was with Coach Wilson, but it feels great, however it is right now. Keenan, was there initially a bigger role, expected for Jolani in the cotton bowl and that not get to come to fruition as much as the way that came played out? You know, I don't remember exactly what, you know, the expectation was he was going to help contribute.

2:22:26And certainly we wanted him to contribute from the jump and keep them in there contributing. The game kind of started off, you know, not ideal. And we had Kate in there and you know, that was his last game as a buck guy. So we felt comfortable riding out with him. But I think Jolani and everyone else is kind of focused going forward. Did you guys see him going to ride during the bull prep that was a step forward at all? Yeah, oh yeah. Yeah, he definitely takes that forward for sure. If you are painting an ideal situation for the fall, what does the depth look like in terms of how many guys you'll trust? I think I got six seats in there. So six of the toughest dudes on the team. I'm not sure I'm just keeping the coach speak, but I mean, however it shakes out. Hopefully we could play 13 person, no 14 person now. Guys out there that are going to go wreak some havoc. But I don't know. They're going to make that sort of out. Right now I'm worried about whatever Thursday's practice, the toughest dudes on the field. Are you seeing enough of that to feel comfortable saying that that can happen by home? Yeah, I mean, we're taking strides.

2:23:27We'll see about the end of spring and then hopefully fall camp. It's a long ways away from wherever we play with going. Can you tell me what's happened? Yeah, it's been great. It's been great. I'm a pumper turn and kick return and again, the coach, other positions too, right? I mean, I mean, special teams comes down to technique and effort. Right? And that's the ultimate test of the brotherhood. No one signed up to be a buck out of me on pumper turn. They want to be first round this, first round that. So it's been awesome. And involved in that. What's that? He looks like he looks like he's got a different type of guy. He looks like he's got a different type of guy. He looks like he's got a different type of guy. Oh yeah, we're working quite a few guys back there. We got some options. So yeah, we fun. You guys were thinking about puts a lot of you that maybe have a bigger rules. What is he giving you guys that would make you think that there's a lot of you that's not going to come? I mean, he had more time, right? Just because we have that whole month of kind of December for development. And you know, the bull preps a lot like Spring Ball and that he has those three or four weeks, you know, to get the reps he wasn't getting during the year because Katie was taking it.

2:24:27I think good. I think it just shows that, you know, next man in we trust you fully. Kate couldn't go. No one bad at the night. It was G. Then it was Pat period. We called their offense. There's no modified offense or anything like that. So to put our trust in him, he went out and made a lot of plays. And both of this gets played really well. I think that helps the confidence for him and awesome. Really good. When you look at G now, do you, and this is the easiest question, maybe you see a tight end now. You're still when I'm saying from a couple years ago, years ago, he moved over from wide receiver and all this kind of stuff. What just jumped out at you about what he brings with the tight end spot. Yeah, I know what you're asking to. I promise you I never like in the tight end, where I didn't say, oh, but he's a receiver playing tight end. He's a tight end. He's a tight end. So he's going to be greater like a tight end, treated like it. So I never really, like Kevin talked about when they first made the move, you want to get this guy some confidence playing tight end.

2:25:28Meaning I'm not going to say it's lesser opponents, but having some success out there, you know, like in the run game, the blocking aspect of things and stuff. He seems to progress big time from that. I mean, do you feel that way too? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, he's gotten way better. And again, that practices on the left side, he's against JT. If he's on the right side, he's against Shaq. So I mean, there's no, this is Ohio State. You're playing against the best every day. So he's definitely progressed. Do you think that elaborate effort you guys are having a special team? Do you think that's benefiting you guys in terms of just how you're coaching on the table team? Yeah, I think so. Dan, as far as ownership goes, right? Like, I mean, I'm not saying I wasn't invested last year, but shoot, I'm a part of the tournament kicker, I mean, that's Coach Hartlan and I's product out there. And if there's not tight ends all over those units, and they're not going to play tight end in Ohio State. And I bet you Hartlan feels the same way about the receiver. So as far as the buy-in from the staff, heck yeah. Heck yeah, for me, at least speaking for myself. When Coach stayed brought that up, what did you think about that change? And number two, what is he told you he wants that he wasn't getting from a special team two years ago?

2:26:31No, he never, he never told me anything about last year. It was all about, okay, how it going to be? This is, again, Ohio State. Yeah. Whatever the janitorial staff supposed to be the best in the country. The tight end coach better be the best tight end in the country. Same thing with quarterback, same thing with Pumberturn Coach. On the Pumberturn Coach, I should be the best one in the country. So I got to work with Coach Hartlan and Coach Keys and everyone else. Learn in this game and techniques, and now we've got to put on the field. You find yourself studying punt returns, like NFL teams and things like that. How are you doing your prep work? Oh yeah, yeah. Coach Hart, Coach Keys, Thanksgiving or not. I mean, we locked ourselves in a room for a week there. I don't think I did any offense. You already have pretty good knowledge of the turn game. Or do you have to start the script there? No, yeah, there's no starting from scratch, Dan. I mean, it's all ball. And that's the coolest thing about special teams is if you're not special teams, you're just going to make you better tight end. It's going to be a better DB, you're running back. And it's like the technique and everything like that. I think I had pretty fair foundation and then maybe some tweaks. And we have to decide what our identity is going this season. We have to decide what our identity is going this season.

2:27:31We've got to be open. We've got to be open. What do you mean? We've got to be open. What trust is you against what kind of trust is that? Yeah, I think he proved it on special teams because he played on special teams before we played offense. And then just reps up practice again against blocking the best linebackers in the country. It doesn't matter if you're a fight star or if you're a walk on. But to that point, I think sometimes there's a mentality of what he's just a walk on. That does not exist with Pat. It's went out the window to start a, once you start a plan. How about you here? About 1130. Have any stars? Oh yeah. Is that helping? Oh yeah, they know. I think everyone in my room knows. And you know guys I talked to on the recruiting trail. Kate went down and there was G and then Pat was right in. I didn't have that in I. I'm going to put the toughest dude out there who goes to the hardest. Right? I don't care if you're from Ohio, you're a dancer, a buck guy. If you're a walk on or a five star. Whatever should help us win, you know?

2:28:33We can marry in that. Not here yet. Yeah. You still work with them? Or how does that kind of work right? Yeah, we can. I mean with Max and Toe, it's FaceTime and it's encouraging them to get here and watch practice so that when they get here right after graduation, we can hit the ground running. But yeah, it's much prep work as we can do on the front end with, you know, setting them tip sheets. And that's what I think. We're technology nowadays. I mean, COVID we had to do it. So yeah, we can get to work right now. Two more questions folks with the special teams question. The collaboration that you guys have, it's three people in one room. Like how does that work semantically where you guys are all putting your heads together to get one idea? Just how does that play out in the room together? Yeah, I mean, luckily, I mean, it's Coach Hart and I. I mean, that guy, we worked, we're seeing each other every day for the last eight years. And luckily, I worked for years with him. So that's so organic. Hart and I just kind of bounce each other, thoughts off each other. We can read each other's minds by now. I think that's how close we are. So this is really organic in there. And then Coach Kees does a great job of kind of setting the direction, giving us some expert tips. And we just kind of have a flow off each other. Okay.

2:29:33Obviously, and the guys react to that. So you're coaching the special teams. Yeah, I think they like it because like the accountability, again, if my tight ends aren't on a tournament take a drink, they're not playing tight end and they know that. So I think across the board, it gives us a platform to coach other positions. In a time when print transport is so big, and the guy like G probably could have left multiple times if he wanted to. What does that do for the room? To have a guy who's a leader, have just so set fast, I'm like, I'm going to stay here, I'm going to stay here and make an impact. Yeah, I think it speaks volumes. You hit the nail on the head, not just for G, but for the brotherhood. And I know it sounds cliche and people read it on Twitter and kind of roll their eyes at brotherhood. Why did they think the entire defense came back for the brotherhood? We got two goals here. We haven't done them since she's been here. He hasn't hit his two goals, so he stayed for the brotherhood. So I think it speaks volumes for G as a leader in the room. But also, you look around a roster, how many guys could have either left for other opportunities in the portal or in the NFL. So I think it speaks volumes to the brotherhood. Is it different at tight end with the transfer portal maybe, because for some positions it's such a development position at tight end where you have to develop run blocking?

2:30:39And you have to learn the passing game. Is it different trying to keep kids around maybe in the portal area at tight end? Yeah, maybe it is. And I haven't really thought about that, because it's still so new. I think you've got to be so honest in recruiting. If you think I'm going to walk into a living room and say, come be my starting tight end, I should be crazy. You're crazy. Now, come prepared and get to work before you get here. And, you know, I'm going to give you the opportunity to, again, to question earlier, I don't care if it's a senior or a true freshman. If you could play, you could play period. I can't wait. Give me a true freshman, you could play tight end. It's the Ohio State. You've got to block Jack and JT. And then your dog tired next play, you're getting covered by Downs and Latelyn and all those guys. Are you kidding me? Is this NFL? No, it's Ohio State. Right? So, yeah, I think it's a little bit different, but you've got to be honest on the front end. Keena, thank you very much. Also, thanks, guys. Thanks, Coach. Thank you. We're there, just circling back to what we had. Natural maturation a little bit, because he's been through a little bit of spring. He's been through a little bit of camps. So, you're still learning the terminology.

2:31:39You're learning a new skill set. But he just drove right in and wanted to be a sponge and wanted to learn. He's doing a good job and he's improving every day. So, that's what's making the battle and the competition. All these great snaps really good for us is because they all have that mindset. So, from Seth Awesome, the unit in the group, Awesome, because there was no combativeness to it. Let's get in, let's go on this compete and then let the guys win. Luke said the skill set made you guys what you're going to do with the car. Just learning the same deal. All the young guys are coming. You've got to learn how to play in friction. So, having three tech, having two eye, having those guys right in front of you. Every time you take one of those reps and you're out of your base or you're in your base. You feel the good, you feel the bad. So, being more consistent that way. You can't make moves or shift guys if they're not mentally there. And so, for him, he's got a pretty good football FQ. So, he's continuing, he's growing every day. He's working and he's getting beat every day too. And he's learning from those. So, in the spring time.

2:32:39We have saying in our room, we're like, in the spring, it's yes and it's no. And the no is K&OW. Why didn't the rep work? What happened? And how do I make sure I don't repeat the same mistake? And so, whether he's coming in and watching the tape on his own and then coming with questions. He's grabbing me and watching tape with me or we're coming doing stuff as a unit. He's learning so that the same deal the game can slow down and he gets more comfortable there in friction. So, I mean, his weights up, his strengths up. He's spending all of his season with Mick. You know, there's a lot of development that still has to be had. Obviously, not a finished product, but being able mentally for a guy to handle that. You know, helps a lot. Are there any good, good, concerned, or determined to do it? Similar to Carson and I. It's better than that. It's better than that. It's better than that. It's better than that. It's better than that. It's better than that. It's better than that. It's better than that. Luke, a leaner guy. Did you tell him that? He paid you to say that? He did not pay me to say it, but I will say it. That might be the first time he ever heard that in his life. No. No. No. No. No. You know, like Luke, Carl, you know, Luke, Carlson, whoever, maybe, that jump of 18 to 19 to 19 to 20 year old kid,

2:33:47that plays a lot into it too. Being in a full year with Mick. I mean, all those guys, you come in and mid, you're like your Devo and Dion and Ian more right now. You're keeping your head above water. That's your whole first year. Now you can actually get and we can sit. So when you sit and talk about a jam combo or a lock or whatever the call may be to Luke, he registers that and not like something new because then there's paralysis by analysis. So I think the middle part on top of another year, natural maturity of getting bigger and stronger, that's always going to help. You're not going to, guys here, they're not going to regress. It's going to keep adding progress and how fast can we get that going? That's what we're working on every day with him. Josh said that he would have been all guarded to this point. And Coach Day has mentioned this several times that Josh could play guard too. And you guys are trying to work through that, Friar. Josh could play off five. He snapped the ball in high school. Josh had a great off season. But for you and you're going to your spring and it's back finding and experimentation, how much do you want to put them in different spots or not?

2:34:50Because you also have an eye on August to try and settle on five-minute rotation. What's the balance of that for you? You have to get a really good, great upset so that everybody has numbers of, just like we said before, how many times have we done a run blocking or pass blocking in this situation? So that all evens out. So that's, it's not experimentation. It's just making sure that you get a good book of work to look at and grade that. So as we work guys around the platoons and go, just to make sure that everybody gets good, greatable reps so we can sit back by the end of spring and say, all right, this is your comparing apples to apples and oranges to oranges. And not apples to oranges because it's completely different that way. So that's kind of the thought behind that as you're going through the spring. When you got here a couple years ago, you just met your fellow at FolkJu. Two years from now, Chip Kelly is going to be here as office at FolkJu. Not a laugh. But then I said, you know, it's college football, so who knows, right? What's up in like, I'm sure you're enjoying it, what's up in like, so? Yeah, I mean, he just added to another piece of just good people here.

2:35:51I mean, you still, you're coming to work here with the guys every day, you know, but the kids we talk about a ton, but then for us as coaches as staff. So adding just another good dude that's in the room. Obviously, as he says something and, you know, he might speak in old terms or terms that we had, you know, maybe be a little bit of a rosetta stone like, no, no, this is this. He's like, yeah, that's right, because that happens to all coaches. That happened to me when I got here. First, I was at what's coach day sometime with Ryan. It's like, you know, what do we call this? Because he was in a system like that before. And he's like, oh, this is this now. So I think just the, you know, translation of a rosetta stone there help, but just overall standpoint of adding a great guy that's a great coach that's been around. That's, he's going to supplement the room and every time you add something new to the room, then that makes the room better, it makes you individually better. Oh, look how he does that. Maybe I could do that. Maybe I could bring that to my meeting room. Maybe I can bring that to communication to the staff or to the kids or whatever it is. Because he's, he's done it for a long time and he's done a high level for a long time. So it's good to add that guy to us and then continue as us to rest the staff for me and Brian and Key

2:36:54and everybody just learning and growing with that. What does he bring to me? It kind of specifically just, I mean, does he from a talent standpoint? Does he see things sometimes, others don't see? I mean, does he, I mean, what does he kind of bring from the chalkboard aspect of that? Well, I mean, what you're saying? So what does he see? It's good to have fresh eyes come in that maybe, you know, you're getting a routine and you're getting a rhythm. And then all of a sudden, you look like certain aspects of what the running game takes like that. Football. You know, he's one of those guys that I think goes into the categories, forgotten a lot of football and some people have learned in their life. But no, his, I believe he coached every position on the field both sides of the ball through his whole career. So as he looks up and he writes when he's talking about, well, this will linebacker's going to do that. Then he might have coached that at Columbia, right? Or this is what the three techs going to read on a down block of a tackle. Because he's coached the offensive line and he's been a coordinator for a long time. So just a really good vision of big picture, understanding and, you know, the next step.

2:37:56And not just being running it now, yeah. What does that just ticker of? If you had a theme or whatever, this spring, because I mean, this seems kind of like a, not to make it a break in time for him. The time to step up and step in. This point was nobody cares. Nobody cares what, you know, what struggles you have or whatever. You got to go out there and feel like you can get the job done. I mean, it's like, if you know anything different about tech, what do you see about tech? Yeah, he's competing his butt off. I mean, he's kind of living that way. You know, that's why we have the red line over there. When you cross the line, you know, coach, they talk about that here. Like, the game doesn't care. You're off the field. You got to come out and step out and do your job. It doesn't care about anything off the field. That can sound really negative and harsh. But then it also, if you just spin your tone, like, isn't it beautiful that the game doesn't care? It doesn't care that your skin color, your socioeconomic background, where you've come from. If you just want to do it the right way in the 53 and a third, the game will love you back. You know, and so I think it's the approach mentally that guys take that way.

2:38:57So yeah, for Tegrit, he's, he's taking that approach. Like, he wants to come in and be a guy. So he's fighting and clawing and scratching every day. So when he makes a mistake, he's trying to correct it when he does it well. He's trying to enhance it. And that's what competitive people do. And that's what he showed up to do. So that's good that he said that. What's his comment on the field been like as a center? And is that difficult when you're coming into a new offensive line to have that? Or is there something innate about the center position? If you've been experienced at it, like he has where you kind of have that? I guess command on the field over with any offensive line. So I should say it over and start over again. You're saying the comfort of center with who now? Yeah, I'm saying like how has his command of the field been? And has it been difficult, I guess, to adjust for him if he's to have a certain level of on field command? Yeah, I mean, the on command is just great communication getting everybody on the same page. Yes, having a bunch of banked reps helps. But then when you do come into a new offense, just like we talked, you know, with Chip a little bit earlier.

2:40:02He might have called it yellow and we call it green or something. I don't know, just making stuff up, but the transition of that in your head to get going with that. But yeah, the comfort of having a ball in your hand, having a guy, I mean, you talk about acclimatization of football. Like play one handed and have, you know, tie leak this far from your face. You better have command of something, you know. And so you got to understand the communication and the technique and those things there. So yeah, I think him coming into a new place, the game's not as fast as it probably would be for a younger guy. But also there's mistakes there that he can learn from and grow from. And the same day, you know, the one thing we're not having concerns with, and we're not driving right now is the guys just competing and trying to get better after a mistake. Or like we said, we're enhancing as they've done some stuff really well. And he's adapted to that really well. This spring is the same for that. And how do you assess their own by center version of guard? Could they do both? They both have been ripping its center.

2:41:03Yeah. For the competition aspect, could they roll out and play guard? Yeah, probably both of them could. How do you assess that? You just got to give them a bunch of guard reps. But if you send guys out too much that way, then that's not good coaching, you know. So we got a good plan with everybody. Those two guys included as we're moving ahead. But yeah, they've been really working at center position right now both of them. Would you stress what Josh said, Joe? No, I have it. He obviously came after spring practice next year. How has he been this spring? You could have speak to how what the challenge must have been for him last year or not having spring practice stepping in playing that position here? Yeah, same. He's been here not even a four year yet. So coming in the summer, doing what he did, coming in through the fall. And then now, I mean, the same with him. It sounded like a broken record. I think the game's slowing down for him. Those mistakes that may have showed up or the questions that he had through the fall. And as we got going through the season, those are starting to erase a little bit, which is good.

2:42:07You know, his communication level is just talking more. That's probably the best thing that he's done so far. He's a highly, highly talented guy. We're just developing that skills and discipline and does go into communication. So as he communicates and talks, that's probably the biggest thing I've seen from him, which I think, you know, volume and communication equals confidence. And so he's playing much more confident right now. He obviously has talent. He also had a few plays of game work, you know, the penalty or whatever. Have you seen him reduce those? A bunch. Yes. Coach, thank you very much. Hey, sure. Thanks, guys. Thank you. Thank you, Chef. You made my bare fans. Thanks, Chef. I understand. All right, folks, we will come back when. You know, the communication and how everything works. It really just understand the football. And what you kind of understand, like how the central line works. And you know, you're going to get the best and best in the first day of the international. I think that's where I come from. How can that chemistry be different from the new comedy? It's a funny, and a weird outside.

2:43:08I think it's an idea. Like there'll be things, like sometimes you won't even have to communicate. Because you just know, you know, like, you're allowed to do a year of the ball together and it was great. And it's like, it's a talented, and tight, you're going to be entirely done. What did you come to this spring? I know that you didn't want to be doing this ramp. I came in knowing that just about everything. I mean, like, obviously, I kind of, I kind of feel like, in terms of like physical attributes, I can kind of like move and I'm strong and stuff like that. But I think like, there's a lot more to it that I needed to work on, even to come close to what I can do. To me being able to help a team, like such as technique, awareness, just everything. Definitely communication, I think that's like the big thing. Like when you're in those big games, you got to be able to, you know, call it out. Like, like, the pressure might come and stuff like that. So, it's awareness and ball. And here's a few more. Go try it. Come in the summer, get the start right.

2:44:09How you feel spring is there a level of understanding how we coaches and what he wants to use for years? And how do you handle it? Down better than I hope he's there. Folks, we have Dalin, Hayden, not the 20. Yeah, he wants just 100% after it and just work hard. Like, obviously, like, there's more to it, but those are the things that he wants to do. He wants to play fast, play physical. And I pick that every day coming out here just the best to do it for him. You go back to the actual age of youth. Is it almost like you have all the stuff that was thrown in me, all the stuff I had to adjust to? I really think that is great for our youth. Definitely, but I kind of, like when I come in here, I knew Coach Fry and staff, like they were going to, they're going to definitely like, scope me into the player. Like, that I would, yeah, scope me into that. Like, they know that, like, scope, I mean. Oh, scope, yeah. Like, just kind of make me into that type of player. I mean, the development factor from Coach Fry and I mean getting these, like, I didn't even, it's like magic almost. So, I mean, I'm just kind of keep going with him and keep riding with him.

2:45:10You know, having a spring practice, having a summer all has been so much better than how much better you think. I guess we'll see. I'm going to keep picking that in. Sure. We'll see what we'll be doing. I guess, yeah, I would say sure, but I mean, I can't really take credit for something like that. You know, the man above kind of put that in my gym. So, how much is running game changing? New on to whatever you want to call it with Chip Kelly in charge? What if you noticed this little bit, little new onces or stuff? I mean, maybe like little things. I mean, little things add up to big things, right? Yeah, I mean, yeah. Where do you think you guys were lacking at some point last year in certain, some of those matchups? I mean, it was a whole new line. I mean, I kind of the side came a few times with each other, but other than that, it was, I mean, it was a hard game. Nothing's going to be like, for sure, what's going on?

2:46:12You know, you can have some part time. Yeah. Did Missouri test y'all about as well as anybody? Yeah. What did you know coming out of there? Y'all had to get fixed. To be honest, I felt like we just tried to go out there and just play hard. Like, obviously, you know, number six was a really good player, so we just tried to make sure keeping either back good as much possible, so that's really, we tried to go to. Describe your game a little bit Josh, wouldn't you do well when you still work out with those? Describe your day as well. Yeah, so as a left tackle, I feel like the number one job is make sure nobody gets to the quarterback. And that's something that I try to do, make sure nobody kind of get around me or go through them. And just keep the quarterback in the other field, a lot more. You're going to be able to be a well-owned player and you know, more people in the run and stuff like that. But like, that's probably one of the biggest things, make sure it's for that experience. Another big thing. What block did you, I was essentially something that I really, really, really, really, I mean, we got, I mean, we have the main deal I mean, go through. I was twisting and stuff like that, so in the run, no twist, too. So you just kind of like, I guess you just got a really state technically sound. That's something I'm trying to do.

2:47:14If you're going to get Mitchell Melton much this spring and stuff, what stands out about him? Obviously, he came back from a couple of knee injuries and stuff. But what just jumped out at you back then? Yeah, you wouldn't even know he had the two knee injuries. I mean, he's so, like the way he rushes, it's so, like, it's his signature rush. Yeah. It's something that you can't, it's probably the hardest person I've got to block here. Yeah. And he's very twitchy, great with his hands. Amazing to get off. He has that sneaky power. If you're not really like, setting for it, he'll get you. And everyone gets your take. You know, he came here from San Diego State. Your center, the guy's transferred in Seth McLaughlin, whether he starts or not, we'll see. Right on down. He's from Alabama. Is it amazing to you how college football teams are put together anymore? Yeah. Because he could be a key thing. And what does that just tell you about the game these days? I mean, yeah, I mean, it can go anyway. I mean, like Seth is a great player. I mean, he tells me like, you know, stuff that they did differently, I bet, and stuff like that. And I try to take some of like, maybe some advice he has,

2:48:16because he's been getting college football for a little longer than me, so. Yeah. Yeah, he seems like a grown-up, doesn't he? Yeah. He comes across that way, then. Yeah. What's the line? What's the line? What's the line? What's the line? What's the line? What's the line? What's the line? What's the line? What's the line? What's the line? We're learning like in each other to be honest. I guess it's like, you know, the right side is like kind of like going a little bit. I mean, not with fire, but like, you know, we have like some people that compete. I mean, we're all competing. I know I am. And stuff like that. So I just, we're just trying to play hard and play. How sure most of the way through this process, how helpful is, how, how necessary is really a spray? How do you have that? Yeah, I, it's very necessary, especially when you kind of got a new OC and stuff like that. You can get this best to kind of get, you know, comfortable with the steam now. Then maybe like post-acampus in like a few weeks in the retro. Yeah, we've got week one, so. Yeah. This time last year, you're like, do you know what to lead on to get the future?

2:49:16Uh, I mean, Donnie's like, dude, I owe Don a lot. Like, he's an amazing player. He gives me like insight on just what it's like Notre Dame. I've never been like more nervous for a game. We've never been like, I just kind of talked to him. He told me, we got it. Keep doing what you're doing. And we got to it. We got to it. We got to it. Oh, yeah, especially. All right, Josh. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I just want to get to it. All right. So, like I said, you know, just sort of been tough on your beliefs here. With the opportunity we got, you know, you only got, you only got one more chance left to, you know, to go do something that not many people get to do in their lives. We're in a blessed position. Yeah, what do you think? Look for your team. Yeah, I think you have to have a tough time. You guys are amazing. I mean, you guys are a tough one. Uh, and I just think that I was putting good positions. Uh, just kind of let, you know, let loose. We're not there in a played ball. Like I know how to. Uh, you know, my teammates played great too.

2:50:18And coaches called it a game defensively. I mean, you know, I don't, we give a 14 total points or a 17, 14, 14. I mean, 14 gets a good offense like that. Great team. I mean, that's a good day. So, obviously we didn't get the results we wanted, which is frustrating again, but it's a whole different story. Uh, yeah, I mean, I just think it was, it was collectively a good day on defense. And I happen to be fortunate to be in position, make some good plays. You know, be the type of, obviously, something you need to get in the conversation up. You guys are playing well, but nothing really happens. The most I've done is necessarily not mirroring that. But you're trying to add all that to my phone starter. Can you feel when we're in a groove like that when you get back to the field? And I think I was in a groove probably the whole second half of the season. I feel like myself again. And I was just out there playing a heavy phone with my teammates. And, uh, you know, I think that, you know, when you come here and you expect to hit the field, it'd be a certain way. You know, it's hard to get over that for a little bit. And I think you can look at kind of this all of us on the D line as a front.

2:51:20We all kind of had our own journey into how we how we're playing right now. And now it's all about building and not looking back and playing how we know how to play and being confident out there and using our abilities that God's gave us. So I think that this whole next year, you know, you're just going to see a whole different level of play from all of us. I know you're trying to keep it up. Yeah. And that'd be kind of a launch in terms of what there might be capable of in the future. It's going to be a different way to go and set the ground in season. Yeah, you know, I've knew all along what I was capable of. And, uh, you know, it was frustrating the first few years, you know, not being able to, you know, not playing for whatever reason on the field. So what I was capable of, but, you know, once you just put that stuff to the side, just got there and play ball. And I was like, you know, how it's just going to take care of it. So you're good. Did, uh, you're right. Use the term, don't tell like issues. Not like emphasis, focusing on the little things kind of owning it on that stuff. And you guys know what you're telling us. What is it for you to support? Yeah, you know, I think you said it.

2:52:21You know, there's no talent issues here on this team. Uh, I think if you look at our team across the board, probably one of those talent teams in the country. If not the most talented team in the country. Uh, so, you know, that's got given though. And, uh, what we can work on is our discipline or skill or technique. I think if we become the most, you know, disciplined and sound team technique wise, there's not going to be a team in the country to stop us. So, uh, but it's, you know, it's a long process to get to that point and to get to that season. So I just think that when Coach Day talks about that, you know, it's true. Uh, we've got the talent. Just got to go out there and work every day on the little things. What are you specifically working on this spring? Uh, you know, I'm working on a flexibility. You know, I'm working on bending the corner a little bit and, uh, hands. And it's at the line, you can kind of improve on everything. And so, Coach Johnson, this is our emphasis is just, you know, just taking care of the little things, hands, hips, uh, foot placement. So it's kind of a little bit every day in the spring. There's a lot to be excited for, especially all the guys coming back on defense. But how excited are you to play again with JT? I'm really excited about that.

2:53:21You know, it was cool, really cool. I mean, him going back and forth the whole time to side. And we're going to come back or not. Uh, and, you know, when we, you know, I kind of knew, I knew before you guys knew when he was coming back. So, you know, I was excited. I, you know, hell of a player and, uh, you know, really good friend of mine. So there's happened another year with him. And, you know, I'm going to enjoy it. And, you know, hopefully have some fun. You know, we can have a comfortable performance for the next fall. Even going back to your recruitment, you know, the first guy to come in. And this will be awesome. You guys are going to look for barbecues in your house. What was it like, I guess, to see a kind of comfortable circle in a way that you're going to play. And then, you know, you can come back into the pool and run back on the run. Yeah, you know, it's unique. You know, I think it's a really unique position. Um, that great group of guys coming back, man. I mean, you know, it's just so exciting. And I just wanted to, you know, for me, you know, and at the same thing, same thing for those guys. How much they care about this program and care about the team and coach day and, and guys you want to do it for in the city and, you know, the chance we, we all knew that, you know,

2:54:26we had great opportunities going in the field. And we also have a great opportunity to put another one of those banners up here. So, and, you know, get some revenge on, you know, the guys up north, all that stuff. So, you know, when you put in a nutshell, you know, it was a really simple decision for a lot of us. And, you know, we thank God for being in this position and coming back. You know, I don't think any of us regret it. And we're just really excited to, you know, just get back on the chase and, and, you know, not miss a day. Jack, you take a wide view of the defense with the additions made by Caleb coming in. And now you see sunny, blue, closer, line of scrimmage. But you just, when you have an opportunity to like look at what's out there, how does it change the capability of your defense? Last time, how can it change the way maybe you deploy that you couldn't do a year ago? Yeah, I mean, you look at our, you look at the defense one of the fear like, damn, we're big. You know, corner, we're big, line back, we're big, D line, we're big, safe, through, we're big, fast. You know, we're just, you know, we're just, we've got a lot of weapons to say the least.

2:55:28And so, you know, when you got, when you know you got those guys behind you, you know, you just make you play so much more free up front. And, you know, you depend and you can rely on those guys behind you. And I think that, you know, if we take that approach and everywhere on the field offense too, that, you know, we're going to really fun here. We have to kind of change the perception before you do. Or you know, you guys don't pay attention like outside noise, but also, a lot of the things you just got are actually really good. Pretty good, a lot of things. Yeah, I'd say it starts off with like you kind of got to, it starts off with tuning out the outside noise. And what other people have to say about it? And it's really good. Mine said, I kind of look at it as if it's like a drop in a bucket. You know, if I got a big bucket, there's no one thing I'm going to do to make these bucket full. It's a daily thing where I put one drop in in a day. And you look back over a year, two years, three years, you look back and you're like, man, I've gotten a lot better. And so, like I said, I'm just very thankful for the event. The guys that I have around me push me very hard, and I'm just thankful. You mentioned that the development has been this part of TEDx.

2:56:29What was the book challenging part of you to make all the things that you played at the bar? Yeah, I'd say definitely the size component. You know, you got to be someone that's, you know, when you got to be big, you got to be strong, you got to be fast. There's a lot of jobs that you don't do. It's a very asking job. You need to buck the big, some of the biggest guys in the field. But also run routes off some of the smallest guys in the field. So, I think just thankful just to be out here and do exactly that. What was it like to get that shot the other day for the pros counts? Run routes, catch falls. Show off. Yeah, no, there's a good opportunity. I think some of the big, you know, reason behind it was just kind of giving those guys that they were at pro-day. We have limited numbers. So, just get out there and give those guys a breather. But any opportunity you get to go out there in front of scouts. I think that's a pretty good deal. And you're taking only a quarterbacks to this point. The quarterback battle is going on. What's been your take on Will, for example, getting to know him. And of course, David. I think the line said that we have body around here is ironing, sharpening iron.

2:57:30So, that's kind of like, it's not just, you know, one room. It's from top to bottom, top to the whole team. No matter what position you are, we're here to work. And I think we're all here to make each other better. Whether it's in a quarterback room or a tight-knit room or running back room. Offends first defense coach for his coach. It doesn't matter where all just, you know, iron and sharpening iron. Especially this time of year in Spring Ball. We're not doing too much game planning for next week. Which we're really just spending this time to get better. It's built a good foundation for ourselves. It's something to work on, room forward. If you've seen Will, Will Howard fitting in more and more, is the practice has gone on. You know, getting to know everybody and all that kind of thing. I mean, I've always been here for a while. Yeah, I think that's time. I think it's time's goes no matter where you are. You start to adapt and start to get used to what we have going on here. And so, it's good to have them. Thanks. Yeah. You came in. You came in. What's it been like? Yeah, just that one. Longing conditions. Yeah.

2:58:31I'd say when it comes to that, I think it's all the glory to the Lord. And I decided to give my life completely to the Lord a little over a year ago. And that kind of really changed my outlook on the way that I approach football. It's no longer something that I idolize. It's just something that I do. And I think from the time of my life where I stopped, you know, compartmentalizing who God was in my life. God was something that I do on Sundays or something that I do in the Bible study. It went from what I do to who I am. And so now I embody that as who I am. And so, some of the fruits of the spirit is peace, patience, and kindness. And so, those are the kind of things that I've started to embody on this journey. I think it's easy to kind of compartmentalize football away from faith. But ultimately, it's all one. So it's giving me a spirit of patience, peace, and joy with the guys around me. And so I'm just, I'm thankful. I'm thankful to be here. But being quite honest, I just know for a fact I wouldn't be where I'm at right now. And I know I'm outside looking in. You know, I was like, you know, where are you right now? But I wouldn't be where I'm at right now if it wasn't for my relationship with the Lord.

2:59:34And so, it came into my life and changed around for the better. G, what did you see from Bennett Christian last year? How did you feel about suspension and how do you work with him? Yeah, I think he did a great job. A lot of perseverance. I think that's no matter who you are, when you're kind of hearing news like that, that you're going to be out for a year, that's hard. No matter where you are, I'm really proud of him because he came up and he came to show up every single day. And he got better. He got better. The easy thing to do in that kind of situation is throwing the towel. Be like, man, you know, forget this or I'll get better next year. But I saw the drive ahead and one thing I see now, every day he showed up, he got better. I'm proud of Bennett and I'm proud of this unit. I mean, yeah, I don't know. I don't really know how to answer that question because if you go from one unit to another unit, the moment you train units, you're no longer in the unit you were initially in.

3:00:34So you're now a tight end. And so I mean, chance of that question. I think the time that I went from in the receiver unit to the tight end unit is the moment I became a tight end. Kevin Wilson was my coach. Coach Rolson was my coach. Coach Rolson was my coach and I was a receiver. It's just different. It's two different roles. I think I'd say to answer that question. The moment that I decided to come to play tight end is the moment I became a tight end. And so now over the years, I've gotten better at playing the position. But the moment that I transferred over, I've been a tight end. And I'm excited to be a tight end. Another position I'd rather play. Will Buckas. Thank you, G. You're welcome. Yeah. We're the issue, so I am. We're trying to attack. And so I think, you know, that's something that over time, I can feel Lincoln getting a better and better feel for it. You know, Lincoln has definitely stepped up from a leadership perspective.

3:01:34And you can see the way that, you know, he attacks workouts and, you know, this winner is so big for all three of them. Just really just set the standard and to understand the intangibles that playing quarterback is all about. Right? Because there's so much more than just picking up a football and throwing it when it comes to this. So I've seen that growth from Lincoln and that's really exciting. As for Julian, you know, last year going into the year, he was competing for a job and, you know, end up not winning the job. And, you know, he could have turned it down and been bumped out and, you know, not attacked it the way way. But I saw him continue to grow throughout the year. So I'm going to learn from Will and to get to a point this year where we're now he can step up and be more of a vocal leader. And that's something I've seen growth at him as well. You know, he's put on some weight and he looks good and he's definitely attacked his time in the, you know, the winner. And so that's been awesome. And then Tavy and comes in and, you know, Tavy and Tavy and, you know, really should still be in high school. Instead, he's, you know, in my office all the time, learning the offense.

3:02:38And when he's not with me, he's with Coach make, when he's not with Coach make her eyes over there doing academics and sass off. So his days are pretty jam packed and it's definitely new for him. But his commitment to wanting to be great and wanting to be to the level where he can go out and compete in the spring has been really impressive. So I'm excited for all three of them. Does it feel like what August 30th is it just around the corner years down when I'm saying you got to have a way to go. I'm against Texas. Yeah, I don't think so. I don't think so quite yet. You know, I think we have a unique situation where we've got three really talented kids. You know, they're all young. They all have a lot of room to grow. And I think they all understand that and are eager to attack that growth. But most college football teams or a lot of college football teams going through a year and they end up, you know, having a guy get hurt or something happens. So as far as, you know, having one guy, I guess not to go either. We want to develop the room. We want all three of them to continue to get better and continue to develop and, you know, be guys that we can count on throughout the season.

3:03:39So you guys went up for it? Scholarship guy. That's still in conversation. We'll kind of see how it goes. You know, obviously three is a little bit less than we typically have. But you know, the three that we're really confident in right now. You got to go right in the corner back to two. You work in the corner back spot. Who's filling out your room? I mean, you have someone that you haven't mind to come in to meet the system for you. How do you see that? I'm not calling Kiehnos in helping me. So, Colin was working with me at Akkern. He was a student assistant and he was really, really impressive there. So he's going to come in and he's going to help out with some of the day today stuff. And then, you know, Coach Day and I have built a pretty good relationship where between my time here is a G.A. I learned the game of football the way he's seasoned and that was such a pivotal time in my career. I was so blessed in college and then in my first job there, that I got to work with Joe Morehead. And I learned so much football from that man,

3:04:40and I credit so much of my career to him to put me in the position. But then having the opportunity to, okay, maybe I'll see you through a little bit of a different lens, and to learn how coach Dacey's was so big for me in my development. So that couple of years as a GA was awesome for me, and then last year to be able to sit in with him, and really kind of see the game in a similar fashion. I'm always going to continue to learn from him, because he's just such a special coach. But to be able to see it in a similar way, and continue to bounce thoughts on him, to make sure that him and I are communicating in the same way, Coach Day will always be directly involved with the quarterbacks. And now Coach Hartline will as well, as the offensive coordinator, I think, as a guy in that chair, you have to have a relationship with the guidance and the help. I think that's really important. So, him and I have already begun conversations just about how that's going to work out, how he's going to continue to see the game, the same way that the quarterback does, and how he's going to communicate to them. Those conversations are already beginning. So it'll definitely be a combination of us three. Bill Ekaven being there for the championship, Ron, how about helping with the development?

3:05:43Well, it's pretty cool. Just about every one of those games, where he was at a playoff game, and at the National Championship, our guys were warming up, and I grabbed him. I said, hey, look around. You've got to take a couple minutes to take the same. This is what it looks like. This is what we work for. So when you get to a really hard day in the winter, or you just remember not a homework to get to that point. So for him to have that experience, and to be able to see that, and hopefully one day when he's in that spot, he's like, oh, I've seen this before. I know what it looks like. I think it's pretty cool, I think, just to have that bank in his memory. I think it comes off, so I've spoken. But without question, come out of a show. And I would even say you're soft spoken last year. I think that he understood that Will was in charge of the offense, and he knew that he was young, and was still earning respect. A big part about leadership is you can't just walk into a room and start leading. You have to earn the respect to your peers, and truly understood that.

3:06:44I think he earned that respect throughout the year. And so this year, you're definitely seeing him step up. Him and Lincoln both are in that phase, where they've earned that respect. And so they're doing a really good job leading right now, and in Tavians doing a good job earned respect. So we're kind of in the middle right there, between those two phases. Yeah, I mean, so there's no question how Lincoln's special, I think. And you know, guys that have that background that have been successful in multiple different sports. One way or another is going to translate to the game of football. So I think that we're continuing to see that from Lincoln. I think as the more that he is in position to understand and learn the game, and which we saw last year, he continued to grow.

3:07:45And so to take that into spring, and combine that with his athletic ability, I'm excited to see, you know, I think it'll be a really good competition. Can I go? Can you pull back truly lead until he is in quarterback? Oh, absolutely. I mean, you can pull back in quarterback. Oh, I think so. I think so. I think so. I mean, leadership comes in all different phases, you know, in all different ways. There's, you know, there's without question, I've been part of different teams, and I've seen it where maybe the guy that was in the starting quarterback was, you know, the strongest leader on the team. So I definitely think that that's part of it. You know, I think once you are in the respect of your teammates, and once you show that, you know, you're going to lead by example, and they respect you for that. You're in position now that you can be vocal. So, you know, I definitely don't think that you need to be a starter named a quarterback to be a leader at all. Believe it or not, it's incredible. Offensive minds in college already. What are your, what are the traits you look for, specifically as a quarterback being a quarterback yourself?

3:08:46Yeah. You know, I think it comes in a couple different ways. You know, from a tangible perspective, I think that you've got to be extremely accurate. I think you have to be able to make great decisions with the footballing at the ball at the time. And I think that you have to be able to do it. It's just that we solve a problem with the feet. So, you know, it's rare in college football that every protection is blocked up perfectly, or everything goes exactly that we drew it up on the whiteboard. So, when things break down, you know, we'll be able to fix it with our legs. And then, you know, as far as intensible score, I look at, I look at, you know, guy like Will who had those intangibles about as well as I've ever seen. And that's just a complete command and understanding of both the offense and the huddle, to know exactly what we're trying to do on every single play. Know what we're trying to attack, understand where the issues are and where they lie, and how you're going to combat those issues. To be able to understand, you know, when it's time to move on for the ballway and move on to the next play,

3:09:46and then also be mentally tough enough that when things don't go our way, to be able to react the right way and move on to the next play. Did you know last year? What last question? Did you go fight a quest? Did you go to the audition at all? Or did you just focus on last? Oh, no, no. I didn't do this in the audition. Oh, I did. Like, when you're coaching, and you build a relationship with these guys, you want nothing more than for them to go out and have success on the field. And I think that's so important. Like, I sit in that room and, you know, it's about them. It's about them going out and reaching their potential, and maximizing their talents, and going out and execute on the field. And so, you know, last year, I was just trying to find a way that I could help them do that. So, you know, to be able to work with those guys last year, and to help out, and, you know, have them see some success. Yeah, it was special for me, but it was special for me because I know how bad they wanted it. And so that was pretty neat. I always feel like it's one for improvement. Never feel like you just got it. That's one thing. A lot of people mess up one, feel like,

3:10:47oh, they have one good year. Okay, I'm relaxed. That's not any. I'm a no considerate dude for years and years to come. I feel like to myself, for sure. Cause you're part of no big, Torres Strait, just like me. No, just came in, kept it set, now I'm just working. I'm happy to see this future here at Ohio State. Probably going to be, you know, next one for sure. What's it like seeing all of these, like seeing the national championship banner and seeing all the new signage, you know, if you play the huge role? Uh, I mean, it's no sub blessing. No, the sound played, no. Or rolling, no, the night he runs out. We had as a true freshman. Um, but no, it's time to move on. I mean, that's behind us now. And I can't wait for this season to come up. What kind of opportunities do you feel to a guy like what to kind of take when you're waiting to show how you work? I feel like he already got that. Well, just coming in, he already got that hard work at it. Um, quiet, just like me as I came in. Just all about ball really. Me here early. Um, me spending time on Coach Hartline meeting and everything. He doing it the right way. I should say he have a bright future here. Coach Hartline said he wants you to come with a good game.

3:11:48Yeah. You know, I know. I'm pretty much in the country. He was a group. Yeah. Um, how much of a challenge that you are kind of a quiet guy? Yeah, there's a challenge. Uh, no, just no stepping on my comfort zone. Um, made something everybody wanted to see for me. Not just my coaches, but players on the team as well. We have a leadership meeting. There's a lot of people call me out on just saying they want me to talk more. Um, working on it takes time. Um, not really the guy that's talkative or no, but lay by the time. But one thing I'm definitely working on is trying to know. Talk more and get more of my comfort zone and just get it. Is that open with? Coach, you want more than anything on the field? Yeah, for sure. That's definitely the biggest challenge. Um, you know, like I said, just step my comfort zone and you know, getting the guys and getting the younger guys as well. Do you guys open with Texas next year? I going back to the playoff game. Do you think about that moving forward just kind of how you were taking out of that game? Oh, yeah, I think not really think about it. I mean, that's behind me. Um, maybe we won the game. We ended up going to national championship. And I mean, we see it on week one.

3:12:48I just know can't wait to know face a great opponent. What's your impression of Devin Sanchez so far? Yeah, big long corner of Corrine, um, physical. Um, he got it all and I can't wait to see things he do here this year as well. What if you notice different? Are you anything different about this defense of the, you know, these first three weeks of spring that's a culture ride? Oh, they just passed. Physical and pulling the hits. Somebody I should say saying they nothing really changed for me. Uh, guys still got no doing. They've been doing over the last year and nine. It's a year and a half. It's a good thing. It makes the quarterback's live like he did for a couple of practices last week. As a live receiver, right now, right? How do you think your quarterback is responding to that? Over offering. Uh, I think they responded pretty good. Uh, I did not expect the quarterbacks to be live. Um, then a scrimmage, um, that's a prize. Me for sure. I call it Dave. Definitely surprised me with that. Um, but I feel like they handle it very well. They took hits. Um, something we need. They need it. I should say, you know, tough him up and go.

3:13:50Right. Why are receivers going all the way back? Fortyback seeing how they handle that since he's obviously not a norm to do that. Uh, learning anything now, but it's definitely not known to see a quarterback get hit. It gets his no defense, I should say. Um, but no, guys, they was, they was getting hit for sure, but they was getting right back up. So command, uh, good old. I'm going to work questions. Uh, definitely can't get better. No, no, feel like I'm getting complacent. Um, always going for improvement. And, you know, I'm just taking the day by day and they're just getting better each day. And I'm, I, why do you prepare for this group? The expectations you're going to get on the next two seasons here. Uh, not really focused on the espensation that I have coming up or the year after that. Um, no, just focus on spring. Spring and, you know, just going to follow camp and just get ready for the season. I should say, espations go be there. And I really know something high. No. In my mind right now, I'm just, you know, being a leader and just focus on the team.

3:14:54Jeremiah, how much changes is right? Oh, I don't really know. We haven't really spoken about that right now. Um, I don't really know. What's that? What's that? Jeremiah, a lot of guys have said that they want a lot of championships. They've got taken down. They don't want to see it. It's moving into the sea. It's a team. Where, what do you, how important is that for you? And why do you think that's a different thing for this team? I mean, like, I said, we can't live in the past. Um, the club, the 2020 14 day one in national championship. Um, this year we did it. So, I mean, we just took everything down in the weight room and everything. So, no, we could focus on being ourselves and, no, this our season. Great. You know, deep in, you can stop and what happened? You have to that. Uh, you know, I mean, they're a great team. We got a great run into that. Riley Leonard is probably one of the toughest guys we've ever played against. And Marcus Freeman and Staten, there's a great job. So, hats off to them. And, you know, we knew they were going to make plays. Like you said, they did go right down the field to first drive at 14 plays.

3:15:56And, uh, what they think, they would think, you know, whatever it was. Well, it's a fun. Well, I mean, like I said, they're a great team. Well coached a lot of tough guys on that team. We knew they're going to fight their ass off and, uh, it's a heavyweight balance. And that's what championship, that's what it's all about. And we knew we're going to have to take some shots and, uh, you know, keep swinging. Conor, it's a beacon of the kind of story. In that meeting, you guys have, you guys have a great, very season. To him, to stand in front of you guys, a whole team, having a vulnerable like that and to make changes, what is it? I mean, it just speaks to how great a coach is. I think a lot of coaches would have, you know, had a lot of selfie goes on in that meeting. He didn't at all. I mean, he loves us, you know, all of us like when his sons and we felt that form, you know, that loss, you know, we knew that we had a rebound like we did. Um, I can't say enough like how much he means to me. He's a man. He's a man. The way he goes about business, you know, we don't, we don't go about it. Like a lot of teams do about fear of losing your job. We go about as a family, it's about love. And we know we had to execute and we did that tonight. How happy are you for Coach Day?

3:16:57You know, how close you are? You were his first conveyance for him to build a healthy good. Yeah, I mean, it's a dream come true. Like I said, I mean, God is so great. And when Jury and I took a selfie and it took Coach Day on, this family on, I mean, and then I'll be curious like we did tonight. Or you can come to camp some of your meetings, everything to us. And to see you have the success, you know, it makes me so happy. I know I saw the smiles, I found on her face and it's up to she ever to be an excellent, a couple of sevens and that guy in front of her is how it's terrible. And to come out tonight and win this game for them, it's awesome. You dropped them, we come and burn them. I'm blessed. The championship will bust all the expectations with this team at one point. You know, we knew what the expectations were going to the season. You know, we knew that we're at Ohio State and the top of hand every year as a campaign for national championship. And now doing your job. So, you know, what never a burden, it's kind of a motivating factor. You know, do what we're doing right now. We just did and we'll leave a legacy. It was just left is something that, you know,

3:17:58you can't put in the words how much it means. So we never looked at this as an burden with this opportunity and we did that just tonight. Jack, can you drop your name in the microphone? The chance in a championship. When did you sense that? Well, look, we never know today was going to fight to the end. But it didn't just say. You know, during the season, it was during the season you felt that you had to think that before the season, we knew that we were capable of a national championship. Just because of the guys we had and the coaching staff, we knew that we were capable of this. And through all the ups and downs, we were able to persevere and keep fighting. Keep swing. Coach, they always say, you've got to fight your way out of bad times and in life. And as a player, as a coach, as a family, really, for him, you know, he's got to fight himself out of bad times. And he did just that and made the adjustments, made the change out of him, made him and now we're champions. So, like I said, got us so good. And the journey brought us on was amazing. Jack, I believe that was the last week to send your debug guide. Honestly, grew up in Pickerington. When did you allow yourself to think about what this room would be like and what it wouldn't mean for your legacy, you know, the highest day that you could get this done? When did you allow yourself to think about that? Yeah, I know. I mean, honestly, I haven't still even thought about it. And I'm just so happy to be able to celebrate this in the school of guys.

3:19:00It's not about me at all. It's about this team and Coach Day and the City of Columbus. I've been waiting for this for a long time for 10 years. And, uh, man, I'm just so happy for this group of guys. And the stuff that we went through had heard. And we keep getting out from the cube show with the practice and going as hard as we can. And I approached with a positive attitude and trusting that God's plan. And, uh, you know, we have an actual chance. And they can never take that away from us. So, just so happy that we were able to finish the job. And we're, uh, we're happy to go. You can check now that it's dark. Please, on the stage at one point, what were your thoughts right here, Jack? You said that again, please. It looked like you kind of dropped your knees at one point and, uh, we're giving some kind of thanks or whatever. But what was going on there? Yeah, I was just thinking God. I was thinking God for all the ups and downs in my career. And everyone else's career. And then to end it this way, it's just so special. I mean, you know, we put your faith in God. You know, he says it's not going to be easy. It hasn't been easy for any of us. And, uh, you know, we kept trusting him and believing his plan. And here we are, national champions. You know, when I don't want to say,

3:20:00all you guys didn't believe it, but, I'm sure you guys are here. I think we get the job done after that. We can November. So, um, here we are, national champs. I feel just great to say. Who brought those regards? Who brought those regards? I could care less because I do, I do, I know this out there. Because as it should be, it should be. I got hurt two major injuries back, or not back to back years, but, you know, so I haven't been on the field as much as I should. That's true. That is true. But it's not like I'm having these little, little dinky injuries and sitting out. It's something I can't control literally. So, that's why I'm not bothered by it. Like, yeah, I am injury-po, and you can say that, you know, but I do think that the chargers are getting a guy that's going to be healthy from now on, you know, God will it, and it's going to be great. And I do think that it's going to be, it's going to be a great however many years here. When you've been on the field, you've been highly productive. Yeah. 5.8 yards of very average for your career.

3:21:02Like, knowing that when you're out there, you're very productive. How much confidence does that give you that really all you need is not what you need. All the confidence in the world, you know, the way I work. I want to say just from the numbers, but just the way I work, my work ethic, you know, and my relationship with Jesus is like, I have the most confidence when I step out there. Because I do know like, if he grants me the health, it's over with. I don't think I'll be, you know, I think it'll be a great year, or whatever, a couple of years. However many years, he grants me great help, you know, and I think just the work ethic, my prayer, and all that stuff, that's what help you have that confidence. With the numbers, we'll be there. And they might be higher after this year, you know, and it's crazy to think about it. Because I had six point yards or six yards per carry, you know, so we'll see. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, I play with Bradley. I play with him, you know, I know Slater.

3:22:03I know all the guys, you know, and I'm excited. I think, like I said earlier, it's a talented group. You know, we just got put together and win some games, because that's what I came through for. Oh, I wouldn't say part of the recruitment, but like whenever I decided I was going to sign, it was great to have him in the room. Yeah, we're great. We have a great relationship. That's like my brother. So, I think it accomplished it complimented each other very well. You know, he can do a lot of stuff too. You know, a lot of people think he's just power power power, but I think he has some other parts of the game too, which it'll be great. Because I feel like I can do everything. And when we wanted to get tired, we can roll it in. We'll keep rolling. We'll win some games. When you, the two of you keep going, how do you think this is going to look? Or what will be that part of the recruitment? I think it's going to look like a lot of people call this a passive league, but I think you got to run the ball to win a Super Bowl.

3:23:04If you look at the team, the Super Bowl, they can run the ball. They can control the clock. And so if we're both good, it'll look great. Beautiful. I would describe it as a great offense. I would describe it as a great offense. I would describe it as a great offense. I would describe it as a great offense. I would describe it as a great offense. I think he gives a quarter, he's going to give the quarterback a lot of options. He's going to give the running back a lot of options. He's going to give the receiver a lot of options. I think it's going to be great. His offense is going to be amazing. One thing that we talked about is why he could build some of the good Russian offenses throughout the career. Which is everywhere. And he said that one part of it is you've got to call the place. You've got to call it a place. As a running back, how much confidence, how much you'd say it is to give you a play call or a stick with it and allow you any options for him to give you a better opinion.

3:24:05It gives me a lot of excitement. It's going to be, like I said, it's fun to play it as offense. And I think he does have some good things in the past game too. But like you said, he sticks with the run and that's the identity. You want an offense that has an identity. You don't want to be looking everywhere else to find your identity. You want to have it. And so I think his offense has that. And the guy he builds and puts in there, it complements that identity. So I think it's going to be great. You mentioned you're around a percent now. So you mean full goal for training? That's the expectation. Look, I ain't going to answer any of the four. If it's up to me? Yes. Look, because I had this problem like two years, three years ago. I'm thinking I'm full goal. I think I'm ready to go. And then next thing you know I'm on PUP. Like, hey, look, some stuff above my pay-gray. So, but I don't know. Hopefully I can start. I think I'm ready to start, you know, the beginning training camp. But that's not up to me as I've learned.

3:25:12I wouldn't say that. I think I've been in some great organizations. And I think this organization is a great organization. And the training staff is great. And so they just want what's best for me. And they're taking care of me, which that's what you want in an organization. And so that's where that comes from. Which I appreciate it. Like, I really appreciate that. Because I'm a type of guy. I work really hard. So maybe sometime I'm blind to the danger of something. So I appreciate it. But like I said, if it's up to me, yeah, I'm out there. But never know. Any frustration for you during the getting into free agency dealing with rehab and not having a full season of tape or production to go out there? Was there any part of that where you're like, catatization? You know, had it from the public market with a different situation? Nah. I like it. I like how would I say this? I like it the hard way.

3:26:14But not you know, I like it the hard way. I like it. I like trial and tribulations. So I mean, the dice that I was given, the role was I was coming off a killer. And that was the Lord's plan. So it was beauty in that. I was comfortable. I was caught like there was multiple teams, you know? I wasn't like I didn't have any other team. But I was comfortable in sitting back and just enjoying the process, letting myself get fully healed. So whenever that team whoever I would, I'm with who now is the chargers is going to get the best me, you know? And I think people all around the league know that. Like, OK, this guy, OK, it's a high risk, high reward type thing, right? Not even a high risk, low risk because it's a business, right? So I got hurt last year. So not as much money as he's be throwing that. But I think everyone around the league knows that whenever

3:27:15I am on the field, the numbers don't lie. And so they know that. And a lot of teams were like, all right, here. You can give you this, but we want you to be healthy. So when I'm healthy, it's going to be great. There's the chance that I've been giving here. I'm so grateful. And I know that's going to be, they won't regret it. Are you the type of person that likes to prove people wrong? You've run a couple things like the high risk, high reward, injury from, you know, like, are you the type of person that really tries to prove people wrong? No. I hear it. I see it. It's pretty cool. You'll never see me unless I'm just in a bad mood. You'll never see me like, oh, if I have a great game or a great year, I have this wonderful year. I ain't going to go back. Yeah, yeah, yeah, what happened? No, because I don't care. You're eventually see. I'm a guy that's really good. So I ain't worried about that. But I'm proving myself right that I am one of the best in the league.

3:28:17So forget all the naysayers and people that talk about being injury prone. Because whenever I have this great year, it's going to be forgotten, you know? Why give that energy? Talk of Justin and all of our guy that chance to be in middle of you. Yeah, I was, you know, we just with him. You know, he's a great guy. I mean, he was in my class. I remember seeing him on We Were at an award show, because I was a dope walker or a finalist. And I'm like, I've seen him play, but I didn't know he was that tall. Like, I didn't know he was like six, eight, so when I first saw him, this was years ago in college. And I'm like, am, this is me tall. Like, he's cool though. Like I, like I never really got to, I ain't going to lie. I thought he was going to be kind of, you know, nerdy. But he's cool, dude. Very laid back. No offense to him. You know? I don't know that yet. I kind of just mentioned previously. I don't know my role. I don't know the engine out yet. So once we will get, you know, through the protocols and NFOPA,

3:29:20we'll talk about, you know, the schemes and everything. Right? So welcome. When you were in Denver in the three, four, where did you find yourself most comfortable, most effective in my role? I played a lot of different positions in Denver. I mean, earlier in my year, I played zero. I played three, two, one. I mean, I definitely more comfortable in a shaded position, mainly being a three technique and five technique. That's where I find myself to be more comfortable. Whether I'm standing up or I'm not, whether it's runner or pass, those seem to be my best, my best fits. And what is your impression of deep carol defense and the whole environment and Seattle from afar? From afar, it seems like he holds in on a defense a lot. I can't really say too much about that. Yeah, I don't know. I know Pete Carroll very little. So I'm just trying to figure out more and I'll give you a better answer later. What's the reputation around the league running the C-1? You know, hard nose, hard hat type of team.

3:30:21Definitely on a little more lack side as opposed to being a stuck up or military style. Which is definitely good because then this program is one of a lot of football games. They've been super successful for many years. As long as I've been alive and as long as I've been watching football and definitely this has been a good program. And Pete Carroll has been a hell of a coach for a long as I can remember him back in his college days. So I'm looking forward to experiencing that. South Wales. Yeah, I know you said you don't know yet what your role can be. But what kind of player are you that you don't understand who haven't watched the C-1? What kind of player does he have to get? Definitely a high motor. Definitely not a one trick point type of player. I like to attack. No, whether it's first or first to do fourth now. I like to attack. I'm always on the fly pressure. I'm definitely just a high motor guy. My opinion. Maybe. Are they already under sin for me?

3:31:21I've been nice to meet you. Yeah, this is not a team that really makes big splash sign in his infurgency. Did you think going into it that Seattle would be in play? No, not at all. It's kind of like being a cure at the candy store here. You know, got a whole bunch of different options coming at you here in a whole bunch of different crazy things. And you know, you only get to choose one. And this is the place that we both chose each other. And I mean, I'm loving Seattle so far. I like these colors. What, what did you got to do in Seattle and see since you've been here? Not much. I just kind of just drive around the city exploring. Get down to the market a little bit. I want to get on the Ferris wheel. Do some more like touristy type things, you know. I'm new to the city and I got a lot to learn about city. Larry. Yeah, there's been a lot of comparisons that you did Michael Bennett. I'm wondering if you know Michael Bennett at all. I know Michael Burr, then it like nothing. I know nothing about it, but besides his style of play.

3:32:21I kind of wanted to be considered in the same conversation as him and a style of play. You know, he's a Hall of Fame type of deep Latin that I've known about since I was a kid. I mean, last time he played here, I was in high School. So, you know, it's cool to it kind of came full circle a little bit watching him on TV. And now I'm being kind of compared to him in a way. You know, I mean I'm not touching the surface of Michael Bennett. You know, he's a Hall of Famer. And I'm not there yet. So, you know, I just gotta keep doing my due diligence to be a better player. Hey, Dream out. Welcome to Seattle. I know you get to play several seasons for Vic Fangio and the three four style defense and Seattle's playing a similar system now dating back to last year. I have a defensive line and what do you think is most important to be successful in that system, maybe fundamentals or just playing style to be successful? Um, just from what I learned being gap sound and being patient has always been the biggest thing and that's how we've been successful when I was in Denver. Just kind of like relying on each other. I know that sounds kind of cliche but like this kind of like the

3:33:23realm of being in three four defense, you got to really rely on the guys behind you and the guys inside of you to really make their, to do their job to make your job easier. Bob? At the end, Dream up. You're a, you're going to have a state final because you didn't start playing football to you in junior high school. You know, why did you play basketball until that next? Just, uh, what made you know, I guess you said you go to play football and was that all the time away from basketball? No, no, I'll, I'll always love football first. Uh, it was just kind of just I'm just playing it out. You know, I love to hoop, but you know, football was definitely my calling and given I was, uh, 265 pound, powerful and I was like six, three, three, so you know, I kind of told him's a route that guy gave me. No, I'm not six eight. My speed up, yeah. You know, I always get like over, overshadowed, overlooking whether it's, uh, and something,

3:34:36You know, I'm saying like, I feel like I do a lot more than what can be sitting by the eyes of the inexperienced scout. And I do a lot of different dynamic things that help make place for others. You know, I'm definitely an active player. I'm always doing something whether in a run or pass game. So, you know, I think that goes on notice sometimes. And I'm looking forward to playing people on notice. What do you like to do outside of football? What is for your audience? Big gamer. I'm definitely, I've been getting to a lot of chess lately. So I just expand my brain. I'm trying to get into reading, but if it's not as portioned later, I really not interested in reading that much. But mainly just video gaming in chess. And then when we write and say your name, do you prefer brain or dream art? Well, you can say Dreymont Jones. Personally, just call me Drey. Because people like to f my name a lot. They call me Dreymont. I don't know why you put a Dreymont name or Dreymont t.

3:35:39Whatever you want to say, I just go by Drey to keep it simple. Thank you. Michael Sean. Hey Drey, what's specifically you bringing to the C-Law as a pass question? The new era of pass question. Someone was on the little lighter side of the average three technique and bringing that explosiveness, that quickness. Someone was great with their hands. Someone was very extensible. And someone was a go-getter when it comes to the run-in pass. Appreciate it. Thank you. John Boyle. Drey Jones, that I've said after the trade, or after the signing, that you actually got the one that I've been trade last year. I was told that you've been trade. Denver said no. Was that something time you were aware of at all? Yeah, I was aware. I mean, like, shit. You need to be flattered if they want to be even like that. Yeah, I am flattered. I mean, shit, they should have just traded me from the jump. But it was cool to, I guess, it kind of came full circle for Seattle a little bit. I was including to the trade and Denver said no. And then, Denver kind of, I don't want to say that word, but Denver didn't pay my power

3:36:44respect. So I'm here because they respect me from the jump. All right, anything else, guys? Thank you. I think it's just not getting too high, not getting too low, you know, saying in a nice even medium and attacking each play at a time, no matter what the score is and doing it to the best of your ability. What ails this offense the most? I think just saying I had the chance and getting past those third downs, converting on those third downs, I mean, that's what we got to be better at. But then the day, we got to put him in zone. We're not doing that, we're not doing our job. So, are you guys creating more explosive plays? Has it ever been offensive? Right, I think you stick with it. You know, the explosive plays are going to come and now he's got to trust that and they'll be there for us for sure. Coach Stins has been here for high as Ann Lowe's over the many, many years. He's been with this program now. What sort of his message to your group right now or when you're turning to him, what

3:37:47is he saying as far as how to get through this? Yeah, so I think it's just really just coming and attacking every day as you would, regardless and staying even through hardship and attacking it the same way every day. That's really all you can do and you just get a little better every day and see where it takes you. Based on the way things are already we're setting up, but then also the way Jason Simmons was calling the game on Saturday. It seemed like Titans are going to be a big part of this as you guys are trying to pull out and what role do you think you guys are going to have in trying to get this offense? Yeah, I think the role is always try to help the offense move the ball and whether they were called upon to do that. In the past game or the run game, we just got to step up and do our job at a high level and whatever you asked from us, we just got to do it at high level and let the offense go. You're some of the leaders on the offense. Some of the leaders have to say Gus is a big leader. He's been doing it for a while and someone that everyone trusts is going to do his job

3:38:52at a high level and I think we have Hudson's a good leader too as well. Obviously, he's a quarterback so he takes on that leadership role and I think we just have a good amount of leaders throughout the offense. We were told George might be fairly close to getting back what we mean to get him back in the mix with the Titans. Yeah, it'd be great. I mean, George is a great athlete so having him out there can only help. You know, we're really excited about him and what he can do on the field so it'd be great. Can you say about likes and feelings that you guys have great thinking about? Yeah, I mean, just when you look at the schedule he asks for us and how he takes care of our body, you know, just the diligence and a situational football, of course, my car is a great coach. You see about the day just us being ready and as we went open it and I'm just excited to build on that. I feel like I always feel good, not always, but I mean, as week one, as week one, something

3:39:59definitely fresh but you know, just got to continue to build on that and take care of my body and we want to be feeling good in December and January. Oh, it definitely felt great. You know, it was going to touch down, had a bunch of emotions, kind of had to lay there and soak it all in, but you know, it's glad to be back. Very time and front and for us that two working starting the day, I think those guys, you know, played their tail off. They competed. I think we had a great plan and we went out and executed it. When you were sitting on a bench in between ways, what do you think about Mike's relationship with the people on the time of the day? Oh, wow. I mean, I think it was late in the second quarter and I think I had like 30 yards, passing 30 yards rushing. I'm like, man, these boys are out there playing. I mean, when against that defense off season, you know how difficult it is to play them,

3:41:04to prepare for them, but you know, they stepped up and answered the call. We have the best receiver meeting in the nation, so we kind of jack of all trades. So you've been moving around the office in the past of different things. Motion's different trade and ways to get open, but has that increased any knowledge of telling it's here or is it kind of the same as the benefit of this? Probably stay away from talking about scheme stuff. What was it that Jeremiah did that you think enabled you to be in? Just coming in every single day and competing. That's really what we're challenged to do as as buck guys, when we walk into the way we're going to coach make you're supposed to be there and show out and show out every single day and you're not allowed to have a step back and not allowed to have an off day. He took care of all his, you know, the non-negotiables of this program. He was never late. He made his way every single day. He gave his 100% effort. Not the end of the day, he was just winning a lot of competitions and just grinding. So yeah. Michael, would you like to lecture?

3:42:04That's great. A lot about Brandon. Brandon didn't get a chance to do a lot this spring. What stood out to you, even when he was on the field, he's spreading that, that makes the things like he could be a legit man and back play a few years ago. Yeah. First and foremost, he got voted on by his peers to the leadership committee on our team, which is a group of about 16 to 20 of our guys who the team looks to as leaders. So obviously, you can see how people think of him on this team. They think highly of him. And he comes in every day as a very fiery competitive nature and he puts in really hard work and days in and days out. So even though he hasn't seen the field too much yet, we have no concern that when he just step onto the field, he's going to make a great impact. He's only been here a year. Yeah. I got last summer about him. Like, Darn has now respect his eyes and he can be on a leadership mid-year. He's got to be around 365 days. Yeah, just his ability to be able to talk a good game, but also back it up.

3:43:04Not in a sense of playing football, but more in a sense of we're going to be the hardest working team on the field. We're going to go in day in day out. I'm going to beat you even when I don't feel healthy, even when I don't feel good, all that type of stuff. It's all a mentality. I'm not going to throw him far away. It looks like violent matches. I'm going to lose a little bit of light. Like young bear face. Right. He over here with me. Like, do you see that in him? Like, I'm not trying to compare it to the number 10 overall big. Can you see that a little bit in the way that he can shift around? Yeah, he definitely is very fluid about the way he moves and we see it in his routes and his releases. So when all the White receivers are in the film room and he's getting crapped, he's doing all this body movement stuff. It's like, okay, we could see he got a little something to him. So it's just about bringing him along. He wasn't, you know, he just got here. First year here kind of built on along. There's steps you got to take, but he's definitely training in the right direction. And back in a lot of teams get talent for whatever reason you guys seem to develop the receivers better than anyone. What goes on out there that somehow helps Ohio State keep replacing guys in the NFL?

3:44:08We play Denzel, Davidson, Ibnelson, Germain Matthews, Jordan Hancock, Layton Ransom, Caleb Downs. That's really what it is. It's a BIA getting this better every single day. So tremendous credit to the defense and the ability to be able to develop corners like that. It's just good on good every single day. That's the way you get better. So. I like to go with the coaches to get open right now. I mean, we definitely have a strong second there. I would say this year. But, you know, it's just, it's just, it's not just their talent that makes them special. It's their ability to go hard every single day. They show up every single day with a competitive nature. And you know, we're going back and forth on the field every single day. They'll be bigger and spin at each other a little bit. But it's all love at the end of the day. We appreciate them for getting this better. Let's question the method. You do a lot of things this offense have. You know, we're in and seeing that guy so much. Whatever move around, whether he's just being to anything. You see kind of that same horse how filled and Brandon is kind of something you do.

3:45:09Yeah, absolutely. Brandon, you know, he came up, played running back for a lot of his team. His life played a little quarterback here and there. You know, now he's received very, he can do a lot of different things. So we just try to put him in a position where he can be the most successful in the position that makes him the most successful or just the ball on his hand. So we try to do that for him and a bunch of other guys in the program who thrive with that. All right, Michael. Well, I think it's good. We talk a lot. We communicate a lot. I think it's good with everybody saying we're paying there. A lot of those guys. When you look at what you learn, you have to be lost here. How much do you take that trying to use it? How much do you also have to be our government? Oh, man, I try to prepare liking. I like that from, you know, he prepared when he prepared, he's intentional. So that's definitely something I try to do like him, but like you said, I'm, I'm leaving. So, but when it comes to preparing and being intentional with studying and how I prepare for practice, I definitely took that to it. Anything from the leadership system?

3:46:10I totally leave. Tell you a different type of person in the world. Those are my thoughts. Big sheets, too. When you don't know something else, I don't know something else. Where's that come from? Just being honest. Like, you can't be more of those guys when they ask you what happened to you and try to lie and get in the film room. And it's obviously, obviously lying here. So, it's the other thing I don't know. Now, how much do you, what is it that you don't know something else? I can't believe the last time that happened. So, that's a good thing. I don't know. Those big sheets to fill the Cody bill for the leadership standpoint. What is he taking out the door with it, you know, main or male? Somebody's got to fill it next slot. I think he's definitely some big sheet to fill. This Cody was a great player, a great leader. He's like with the quarterback, they're defense. He's definitely some big sheet to fill. Yeah. And like, of course, Lauren, I said though, you got to be who you are or not. You can't just try to be him, but definitely that's what you think.

3:47:12When did you feel like you blastered last year where they could truly count on you and stuff? I mean, you remember how you counted? I think it started in like fall camp just flashed in there. I had to like the first games, weren't around, so I was all alone. Have you ever liked your concentration? I've almost been great. I like it. I like it personally. I like a more feel and that's important. Yeah. And the life backwards, what kind of difference does your responsibility is or your use in this system, or is it going to be in the same horizontal kind of state? Oh. We just learn it right now. We just work it out. We just work it right now. We just learn how to stay here. What do you think about CJ Higgs and what he can do in his defense? I think CJ Higgs said what he can do in his defense? Or just what he can do in this season. You can do this season? I think CJ will pop up this season for sure. I think this definitely going to be one of his years for sure. Got to. What do you think is the biggest difference between French and French and not French?

3:48:16To me, it's no difference. They both coach you and they both, they hard on you, but they want you to be great. So I'm thinking of a difference. You're talking about how, please, you're looking at what you guys can do in fitting. You think Jeter's in war, so you're trying to plug and touch you guys in? Oh. No, I'll do so. What's the exact same thing you know about the sun? Either on or off the sun? I think Sunni a great leader. The fires before anything, Sunni a great leader. I feel like he like the voice. He can be thinking of Sunni and just can't worry about the whole team to understand. So Sunni definitely a great leader before anything. I think you're my team tonight. I just need to not just go wide that pressure. I think I'm perfect people. What's the matter? How does that show itself? Obviously low points? You know? And the performance. What is...

3:49:16There's something that you need to wrap up. On to my only field or when it's leadership? Whatever. Like I said, he's just a great leader. Like you're a vocal guy. Like you said, it shows up on the field too. So it's hard to follow up to a guy who says something don't own. And they're not on their stuff. So it's only one of those guys who own his stuff. So when he leaves everybody listen. It's obviously been long-streamed linebacker success of a high-risk state. You've been a long-streaming of linebacker success at a high-risk state. Now you look at Sunni taking that next step this year. I'm motivated. Are you going to be part of that lineage? Or be one of the great linebackers? It's a play that's a high-risk state. Oh, I'm ready for it. I mean, that's what I'm here for. It's telling you to alleviate any concerns that you may have about the potential of having to deal with those same problems, those forms of recurrent behavior. Yeah, that's a great question. A lot of the information and a lot of things before during the time of those older players are

3:50:19a lot different than the knowledge and information that we have now. We're able to treat concussions. Also, back then, if you got a concussion, they were sending you right back into the game. So now it's a lot different. We got a protocol and it gives your brain time to heal and everything. So I think things are setting place now where it's a lot better than before and that time where we're making problems later on. That's why I'm not really too concerned about it. And then you recommended to you? Say it again. So, how much recommended by the trainer or the medical staff? Oh, no, I just wanted to get into a new helmet. I mean, people have a refer to. They also, during our team meeting, has said how there's a number of helmets that are better than other helmets right now. So I just wanted to check those out and see what they are. Is this concussion any more severe than the others you had? No, and that's one of the other things. I mean, I'm not going to give a whole seminar on concussions over here. No, it's not necessary. Each concussion, just what I learned, each concussion is its own specific concussion. And you gotta give that time to heal and then once that's healed and ready to go, once you get back out here, you're good.

3:51:23So it's not like concussions are building on top of each other. Like, if you give it time to heal, but I think before, what guys were getting trouble with the long time, it goes like, they get a concussion, not fully healed and they go right back out there and playing. So, captain, see a side or maybe part of it. Could you just reflect on how you've grown some showing up here in fairly 21 into the player's personal argument? Yeah, I've been here for a little while now. I've been enjoying every second of it. I always came in trying to be a captain and trying to lead these guys as best as I can. And I definitely feel that I've grown vocally and just trying to help build the team up and build myself up. So I'm just trying to do anything I can to help this team. And it can push the situation like this. You're so close to your mind and your brother. Did you have to sort of involve the family's decision on how to get going? Yeah, definitely. They came down with me. So when I was, I had, like, when the team was here doing meetings, I was driving up to a Pittsburgh meeting with the concussion specialist and everything. And they were with me and just easing their mind. That's the biggest thing.

3:52:23easing their mind. They're all, they're worried and everything, but they'll be okay. They'll be good. So we saw the play with Elijah. We saw the play practice. Did you think it could be up for two weeks after that? I mean, I was good. It was that day that I was kind of had a headache and everything. But I was pretty much good after that. But it was just about going through the protocol. I mean, there was no rush back. We weren't playing regular season games. So I mean, I was just really getting the time to heal. It wasn't any rush. You both were already in captain and still had a helmet to helmet. From your perspective, it has to be an expert. Are those doing what they're intended to do? You know, you got to take care of it when he got to. You know, I'm saying like, guys are still getting concussions and getting them wearing. Yeah, it's definitely still a physical sport. So I mean, concussion happened regardless. I know if you were in a guardian cap or not. I think it could be looked at too. I know and just talked about it on the guardian cap.

3:53:25I think in the back that is much padding is I would like. But I feel it could be looked at. But I think you get a concussion whether you were in a guardian cap or not. So I mean, stuff happens. This is a physical game. Sorry. Just to clarify this, you said you're going to get any helmet. Also, wear the guardian cap during the game. No, I'm not going to. No. You feel that about this game helmet. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know, the name and the brand of helmet. Like any details you have. Oh, I'm not sure the brand of name yet. I have to get it from those guys inside. But you guys will definitely be seeing it soon though. And I haven't got it just yet. How do you feel about not playing in a pretty decent game? You have to say your career where it's going to be good. I want to say it's not a big deal. But I don't feel any pressure any like, oh, I just needed to play in a pretty season game. I feel that's a great opportunity for the younger guys to get out there and showcase what they're able to do. Well, I still been practicing and playing and working out and getting ready for the season. So, I mean, I know the game. I'm looking forward to that first game. And I'm not really concerned about not being able to get a snap of the preseason.

3:54:27We think of how MJ did feel and be particularly during the joint practice in Jefferson. Yeah. MJ is the number one corner. I mean, you guys see it. He's going to be big for us this year. And I think that's what's special about this team. We got three number one corners myself. MJ and Greg. I feel we all number ones. And we able to do different things out there on the field. And one guy is out. Another guy can step in and not lose track or not lose pace on what we got going on. How do you know, MJ? I'm going to have to have him grow as a leader in the way that he's doing. He's trying to take him on this role as a guy that's bringing energy and also trying to bring him along. Yeah, definitely. Like you said, bring it in. That's exactly bringing energy, bringing guys along. MJ is real vocal out there. And he competes as he's in competitor out there and just working hard and trying to be the best. He got the mindset of wanting to be the best and he is. So we just go out there and compete with one another. We're happy to see CD Lam get his contract signed and be ready to go out there and play this game. So you can face the better. No, I'm definitely happy for him.

3:55:28That's like changing contract and everything for him and his family. So definitely happy for him and looking forward to having that match up in the game. I always love going against the number one guys and best guys on that team. So I'll be looking forward to it. It tends to look up more to history and concussions that we're talking about. I think when you suffer the latest one, people who cover the team and then fans are wondering how loud a discussion could you contemplate retiring? Did that ever go through your mind or do you immediately know that you're going to come back? Yeah, like I said, this is a game I love. I love playing this game, being with the guys out here. I really don't see myself doing too much other stuff. Unless I'm just really physically unable to play this game. I don't see myself stepping away from football no time soon. So like I said before, I can't take it easy on these receivers out here. So me being out here, I got to give them a good look and just go out there and play. But I answer your question now.

3:56:28I haven't seen myself walking away though. Are you actually at a protocol now? Yes. It is a great, cold, mild, hard and misdeed drafts. What have you seen? Say it again. It's a great, cold, mild, hard and misdeed drafts. What have you seen from him or the camp? What kind of excites you about him? Yeah, Miles, he's been balling. He's been showing out, making plays against the Vikings. And just making plays out here. So it was big for him to make the team. I was happy for him. We all congratulate him. And he's going to be a big piece on our team coming going forward. I hope you mentioned making the receivers better. How have you made Jamari talk about how you've helped him as a rookie? What have you seen out of him in his development? Yeah, he's been looking good since he came in. I think he's been getting better and better. He's night and day from once he came in. So where he's at now, I believe. I think that's just his competitive nature and what he's been doing out there in practice. And us going against one another out there. So he's been good and he's going to be a big piece as well. That's our offense. What's your tip? Do you give receivers? How can you help a receiver?

3:57:28Yeah, I mean, it's a constant communication. If I were to win on a red, they may come and ask me what it is that you've seen on that play that you're able to get in position. And I'll tell them that. I may ask them a question. So it's just that constant communication on how we could get each other better. Thank you guys. Thank you. Thank you. Glad to see you back. Glad to see you back. Glad to see you back. Glad to see you back. Glad to see you back. Glad to see you back. Glad to see you back. Glad to see you back. Glad to see you back. Glad to see you back. Glad to see you back. Glad to see you back. Glad to see you back. Glad to see you back. Glad to see you back. He's a good set of the back of your head. We want to get Jeremiah and Cornell and Brandon and ... Yeah, stuff in my mind. And practice all day. I want those boys to get me everything that they have. So I go up and up and up and up and up and up. And Saturday is going to be easy for me. And I'll be prepared. Would it be a scene with gross or be young mourners? They're Jamaite, sorry, but Calvin and some of the errands and the young guys. How have you seen them come along?

3:58:29And Scott has gotten completely better from his brain. They're like completely better. Is that just time in the program? I'm just getting used to the speed of college football, I would say. What about Calvin? He was obviously here last year. Hey, guys. Calvin has gotten a lot better. Like, I would say that he's gotten a lot smarter. And then he also write GB. Go ahead. He's there about Calvin's intelligence, you know, where he's grown. Where specifically is it? The film room? Is it kind of picking up the playbook? Where have you seen that? The rain up a grab? I would say Calvin has gotten smarter just like his game knowledge, like expecting like a different kind of routes and stuff like that. When did everything start to click for him? The last year was it in the soft season? When did you feel really comfortable? I would say it in the spring, I started to get a lot more comfortable in our defense. We say you break up the pass yesterday with the spare mine name, though I'm sorry if you're asked, but it's earlier. But what is like going up against him to you? It seems like you enjoy it. Yeah, I love it.

3:59:30He's tough. I like going against him a lot. He's really good. What have you improved in your game just from that, for example, those one-on-one matchups, this preseason or whatever. You know how badly he'd disgame it. So Jim, I had it. He forces me to play the back of the game. If you don't play the ball against him, he'll go get it. Yeah. And you, Dave, send it. How would you describe this defense now compared to this time a year ago from the standpoint of a confidence factor? You don't mean that you guys feel on the field? How would you describe it? It's different about it, I guess. I'm saying everybody is a lot more smart than you say, everybody's like, I would just say, I would go just just just just smarter. Yeah. When you look up and layton ran some decided to come back and Caleb down, transferred in. What did you feel about that? Did it just grow stronger in that one week span, two weeks span? You're still on up saying? I feel it. Those guys have played at that.

4:00:30The level those guys have played at? Yeah, I would say that. Like, a down's coming in. The way he said he was coming back, Zell says he was coming back, it just still like. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know if he has a good unit in it. Yeah, thanks man. Cool. I'm going to make a play. There's two guys side with you and Juan on those touch-shops. So, say again, it was to decide where you and Juan were on those one-bowl touch-shops. So, was there something different you were trying or something that made that communication, a problem, all the sudden you guys, or was it something they were doing? No, it was, it was just, I don't even know, it was just one of the time. I got to go back, wash and film and just communicate. I said, just got to be better and just can't have that out there on game day laying guys around for you. So, is there anything unexpected I mean with what they were doing? I mean, you guys have seen her for a couple of times even. Like, the new offensive system. So, were there any surprises? Yeah, it wasn't really no surprises. There are good teams.

4:01:32A lot of stuff that hurt us was self-inflicted. I feel like and we just got to be better on art and then clean up our side. And to be better. So, but like I said, they're a great offense, great team. But once we clean our own stuff up, I think it would be good. How long keep you pushing in the second half of the outside of game and the other two and set me start? Keep you going, girl. I mean, I love playing this game of football. So, just coming out here with my guys every day, I enjoy coming to work with them and playing with them every day. And just trying to find ways to get a win each and every week. So, that's the main goal. I'm trying to find a way to get a win and just enjoying playing a game of football. You worried all about wasting your time? No, I don't consider wasting a year of my prime. I'm trying to get the best I can for this team and this city and whatever happens happens. That's the biggest thing. But I don't know if it's been wasted. Just to be clear, what you were diagnosed for the concussion right from the last game. I was in the protocol, but I feel great.

4:02:35I'm out the protocol, but yeah, I'm good. There's nothing to do with mistakes out there today. Say it again. I'm saying it's a good question. I don't have anything to do with the concussions. I just got to be better on my end and make sure we all in the same call and we're all we're supposed to be. So, that's all me. Then, what does the audience communications use? Is it more so like getting it from a little bit of up to the rest of you guys? Or is it more about the rest of the second? Yeah, I mean, all that stuff plays a factor. We got to get the call from the green dot and just spread the call around and just make sure we all in the same page and execute all the assignment. You guys are better in defaults. This is a new to you guys. It's just how frustrating you guys are to have these communication breakdowns that ultimately end up causing you guys in a pretty big one. Yeah, it is frustrating because we better than that. I mean, this is probably one of the first times that we even have blown coverage is really all year and all, but we know we could get a fix and we know we could be a better defense

4:03:39and better team out there and we definitely go work to get a fix though. You guys always talk about rushing coverage. And for a lot of the first half, it seemed like it was either a sack or they were completing a chunk in the past play. Does that add to the frustration you are getting that sack production from your front that's happening in the back end? Yeah, like I said, we got to clean it up and we all get to figure it out and playing up and be better and working together and rushing and working together. Do you feel like it's almost like a wasting performance by the past rushers, the files with three sacks, six sacks in the first half? Is that kind of a sour now? Yeah, it's sour coming because the main goal is to get the win. Get the win in the game, but definitely be out of grade personal performance. It's definitely a sour feeling when I'm not able to pull the win out at the end. Since I know when we talked to you, I think last concussion you had in August had a defense. I'm worried about you just because of the number and you didn't seem to have any added concern.

4:04:40I guess after this week or do you still feel that way and everything like you're helmet and your future and all that? Yeah, I feel great. I feel great. I'm glad to be a part of this team and just don't want to happen to hope it's a good win. That's the main goal. So, as long as I'm not a few, ask this before, but what's your mindset, obviously, two and seven, it's not where you want to be. You have a buy-meek. You're coming off a boss. Where's that mindset going into this? He could, but it's supposed to be us. Yeah, definitely. So, going into the buy-meek, get some rest and get away for a little bit, but just to come back, refocus and try to help flip this season around and get a win. Come next game. And so, there's been a lot of stuff at the trade deadline coming up on Tuesday, some of it centered around your team, Aiden's, and areas. You just speak to what he means to you guys as a teammate here? As a derriest, there's an amazing teammate for our team and Captain on his team, a leader on his team and a playmaker out there on the field. So, love having as a derriest on the field with me. That was one of my favorite additions to the team when he came on.

4:05:41So, I say he's a great player and a great guy in the locker room and I definitely appreciate as a derriest. The player he is and the guy he is. Thanks. Thanks. Thank you. And then help the team. You feel that way? That's what I consider a league? Yeah, I definitely feel that way. We could have made some adjustments last week. Fili out a great game plan. They had a great front seven. Stopped to run. So, that's just above the road. We're going to get better. I'm glad it happened early in the year and so we could bounce back from it. So, it's only going to make it better. Does anyone that helped you with that mindset? Did you go to anyone for advice about? Not really. It's just how I was looking on film. I just say when I look weak in a running game or when I come out and we run the ball, just felt like I was kind of weak on myself. So, just trying to take it took a step forward and like I said, trying to get stronger to be able to make those blocks first of all and do the dirty work.

4:06:42Does that something you really tried to do regardless? Like, I know the system prioritizes it but like if it was a different system that wasn't really common, was that something that was just a period of like, I got to do this better? Yeah, for sure. That was one of my biggest weaknesses that I had to improve on. So, like I said, I just want to live a week in a blocking game, be able to run in bags and quarter bags and lie in and count on me. So, that's something I definitely wanted to improve. I mean, you kind of, sorry, dude. You can go ahead and get your own sense of it. So, you're just talking about how, you know, when you got drafted, you were like, you know, on the first round or I went to the ball. Things like that and you would said last year, you know, that was kind of hard for you in that Tampa game when you didn't get the ball. But you see him kind of like, at peace with where you're at now. Like, is that all part of that, you know, growth mindset of it's not always going to be made? Yeah, me, but I'm still. Yeah, I got to do that. I got to do that. I kind of got to try and catch area pass last year. Trying to be the number one receiver.

4:07:44Like I said, it was just a growing, I was young. It just allowed me to grow with experience. And it's not always going to come my way, but as long as I'm winning, I'm doing my job. That's the only thing I can control. So, just trying to control their controlables and, you know, lay everything right up from there. Considering the rivalry with Atlanta and how last year ended, do you feel like there's going to be any carryover from how last year ended this week? They always play as good. It's always a good game when we play against them. We know it's going to come down to the wire. A big player or a great player show up in big time games. So, we had to have our best player show up and play at that best. And it's going to be a great game. Oh, yeah, now I feel fine. I said I just ran 10-50s. So, I'm getting back in shape. So, getting in the way wrong, about to get strong again. So, yeah, I'm, I'm, I'm, be ready. What potential do you see with this defensive line? Yeah, I mean, you definitely stacked. I see a lot of great things, you know, we work together.

4:08:46I think Sky's a number. What conversations have you had with some of the veterans like Cam, any other people on the D-line? Yeah, just going to Cam just, I asked him about certain things, terms with how he sees offences, just whole time he's been leading in terms of formations and how he picks up on little, pretty strong memories, things like that. Chase, I think Mickey said, you know, you dove into the deep end of the cool. How, I guess, much important that you could be disinvested with his team and how much are you enjoying that investment? Yeah, now that's real cool. I love it here. Only thing I had to get used to is that he, but it's, it's real cool. Great teammates. And everybody welcome you, open arms. So, it's a great experience. Chase, I think he's going to get worked on. The answer to this already is training camp. Day one is at a realistic expectation. I'm just focusing on the day. Are you running it? Yep. Marshall and his other Ohio State Guard just having him back in the building. Just talking to him with that. Oh, yeah, big bro.

4:09:48You know, it's a, definitely excited to play with him. We always chatted, obviously, on different things, but I'm definitely excited to play with him. That's, you know, that's going to be big for me. Was that one of the guys who make a decision that you kind of talked to about what you were doing with this locker arm? Yeah, um, Martian, Tyran. Um, but yeah, I mean, it was, um, we got a lot of great guys. And it's the, um, you look at that, you know, on paper, you know, I feel like definitely one of the most talented defense is in the league for sure. Um, now it's all about just putting it together and, you know, coming together is a thing. I gotta get it straight. And that's how I'm, I'm, the run was good, but I'm so disappointed that I wasn't going to be able to see it. And I didn't finish that two runs. I should have finished. How can you do that during the season? Uh, in practice, I can run more gassars, run more sprints, and we'll be ready to go. What did you think, uh, on the 61 yard or when you were breaking free, you turned around and you saw them coming?

4:10:50Well, no, the first 40, I don't like, oh, yeah, bye bye. Because I was putting away from them and then after that, I was like, oh, shit, I got heavy. So I was like, alright, let me just cover the ball. I got tackled. I think it looked great. I think you know, great, just because you don't have a few games or you won. I got just as back. A quarterback is special, right? A quarterback is great. He can't be Superman, you know, that's what the team is for. And that's what they brought me here for, to have his back. Next week, I bet you feel better with that. We kept hearing this is going to be Jim. Our boss is going to run the ball. It's going to run the ball. You can just really have it more, especially in the second half. You're going to be a new stop in the office of gaming, don't you know what you're going to work in the first half? Yes. Always stick with it. Always leaving. Always fighting. I knew we were going to crack some. You know, I knew we were going to crack some lines. I knew you were off its own. I was going to fight. I want to fight with him. I'm going to have their backs. And you saw that. Jake, after everything, how did that feel? After everything, how did that feel? How did that feel? To have their performance out there for your first team or game with the chargers?

4:11:54Hey, look, look, look, look, look, look. Look, look, look, look, look. Get him, look, get him, look, get him, look, look. But you're just looking at my... That's how you really are. How are you right now? How are you right now? You're being put on the league. You're sitting right here? Man, it felt good though. It felt really good. But now I'm going to be ready for next week. You know, the type of guy who will have a good game, go back to the draw board. Let's get better. I'm talking about this, you know, just recently. Talking about how what I want to do for the run was I want to bring that home energy. The he brought, right? So last year, of course, I'm sure you've been doing for years, but the year when I spent my own, he brought a lot of energy, excitement, happiness in the room, which is his natural energy, to where I already had to focus on me. You know, I didn't have to make sure other guys would feel some type of way when they came in here, because hump brought that.

4:12:54I'm a hump's nut here, but I saw when you did for a room, I want to be that guy who makes sure I'm on this amptical practice. Everybody's, I'm taking a field team on period, you know, it's a low day or something. You know, it's a bit of a slip-and-but, like, I want to make it feel like hump's home. You're like, you have to pass the trip. I want to bring that, because that's what me and hump did with each other. We would have had each other do something like this. Like, you walk, you're a blit. So I want to do that. I want to bring that energy, I want to make more guys. You know, I want to do that from day one. I want to do that from day one. I just talk to them, and obviously it's the time I spend, obviously it's the four OTAs started. Just being in my self-just thing about what the room needs. You know, because I know I'm renewal as one of leaders, you know, on offense is that we need a guy like that

4:13:54just to make sure the O-line is picked up. We're ready to go every day on those healthy, kind of little things, don't happen to practice and people aren't saying anything and how I believe, maybe different than somebody else may believe. You know, I like to practice at least like a legal positivity, you know what I mean. But the energy I would be on just like hyperb-b-on, so I was kind of, I wanted to be going on, learning my whole life, all the NFL team captain, like specifically, and I felt I wasn't captain of high school, wasn't captain of college, but I want to make a joke, I'm just in high school. So I feel like I'm not going to be captain until I get that I felt. But that would be awesome, you know, but you know, that happens up to grades, but not either way, I want to assume a role as a captain from the perspective of guys until the video war and get back in that way.

4:14:55Yeah, I mean, I can't say that, I mean, I guess the biggest thing is that I felt like I would use two of the past, but it didn't take just the first LTAs, it took training, left and right, once this season ended because I know what was going to be the champion. So I've done a lot of reps, just to give back to feeling like myself for the LTAs, and then now, over the next week, but now like today specifically, just changing some small things with my feet, and then I just started to see how I feel about the LTAs, and I'm going to do my feet to get to that, to sell that traditional angle that I love to sit on, and I thought I felt great already, but I felt even better, so I need more exercises tomorrow now, and get on my feet back, and how I like the right side, and I want the left side, and so on side. I mean, obviously I feel like in the league, whether I left the right, you're still going against Premier Guy,

4:15:55so obviously, you have high expectations for the left and right tackle, but there's definitely a level of energy, and like the expectations definitely take the human side, because now tonight, the blind side, that's the D tackle world, you know, so yeah, I would say in terms of communication as far as just even outside of the facility, and stuff like that, like really creating that, the tackle quarterback, bond even more off the field, I think, has been something that's even the cool way to do it. I got a text one day, and I said, hey, you put it left, I was like, you know, yeah, I've been training both, I've been training both, you know, I asked after the season, and they're like, honestly, you know, we'll talk to you some great season, and I just got a text one, I'm telling you what happens with the free agency, then, so I was like, you know what, I had an old season right tackle, so if I get the word, I'm going, I'm standing right tackle,

4:16:55I'll just do what I did before, I'm still on that, but I was like, I might as well just train the left tackle now, as if we're going to be left tackle, and I'd rather do that than train on right tackle because I'm going to call it a good left tackle. I didn't wish my feet had been. You know what I mean? So I'm like, let me just prepare an advance. I'll say, yeah, let's go. You know, I think occasionally, on third down, there'll be a lot of twists, I'll just know, like, it's an automatic or something. And I think that was my mindset for like the first half of the season, like, I didn't have to go into the game with some pros, like, oh my gosh, they did that. I kind of figured, okay, like, this is the type of rush I'm going to get. This is how this guy usually rushes. I get the vibe. This is how the ends, like, the rush, you know, tackles that, you know, first year guys, we got the criminal patch on. Already, you know, what it was going to be. Already, you know, every stunt. And honestly, just knowing that's kind of an advantage to, so you're not, you're not, oh, they brought the twists and I said, it was never air-doll, but they come up with, like, three plays in the world.

4:17:56Two minutes, I knew that. It was going to happen. So, you know what I mean? I'm watching more everybody else, and you rarely, you know, it goes out there on occasion, or third down, I was like, you know, I said, are you going to take me? You know what I mean? So, that effect, it's kind of, it's also kind of an advantage in a way. But it's also exciting, like, okay, I'm going to get the hardest to look. You know, so those are real, real reps, you know, the things. So, really, I went in kind of process, and I was like, hey, when I tell me, let me know about, I'm just going to train it. I was trying to all left. So, TAs, I guess, if I didn't hear anything about TAs, I would have came in like, so, you know what I mean? Because just like, I'm cool with training, both continuing. I would have been cool with training, both continuing with, but I feel like anybody, any position, will feel like, okay, like, you want as soon as possible to give your feet kind of subtle, and your hips subtle, and your hands subtle, and certain kind of left.

4:18:58Would it have been harder for a ball to carry out to you? No, no. But, they're definitely, but in terms of the development, they're definitely a lot faster, they're staying on one side. But I think having that, the weeks that we had to transition with the seasons over, I'm delighted, it was fun. You know, it would have been good, I'm trying to get up to whatever I'm trying to do. I mean, we, things at a time right now, when it comes back, I'm showing you on the house, so it's got a house that's not too far from, so I told him, I got that house, like, I could yell outside. DJ! You know what I mean? So, yeah. I think there's a challenge that I'm looking forward to attacking. You know, can't be shy about what's been done in the past, but look forward to the future and then attacking that. You know, I think we got a good team. You know, we could say we're going to talk about playoffs,

4:19:59but to get to the playoffs, you got to dominate during the regular season. And, you know, we're not looking over that. You know, it's not playing for me or any of that. We got to play as a team, and I just look forward to putting my hand up out. You can, around the season, you're really stressed about how you want to join me in one home game. Mm-hmm. Yeah. So, what is the setup now? What does it mean to you that you're going to have the opportunity? That's all I could ask for. You know, the chance to be a one-helmet guy, you know, it's not set in stone. I got to play like it. But that's the way I've always viewed it. You know, when I first got here, you know, getting drafted by the Pittsburgh Steelers, I couldn't think about playing for another team. And, you know, that's always going to go on mine. You know, when I told my mom in the car when I was on my way down here, the sign, you know, she just, you know, she was talking about how rare it is. You know, I think it's me and Kim Jordan left that, or able to say that. But, you know, I think it's really special to, you know, try to, you know,

4:21:02live that legacy in one place. Yeah, I'm not known. Did you hear from any of those Steelers mentioned during the New Mech and Daryl? I heard from Keys. Like, Keys is my guy. You know, Keys is always the first one to text me. You know, I'm always the first one to text him. But, I heard from a lot of guys. You know, and I always, I've always felt the love from them. Even before, like, there was an ounce. When I would see them, they were just like, hey, I'm just keep doing what you're doing. You know, we appreciate what you're doing. And, you know, I hear that from them. That's just love. Like, I do whatever I could help those guys. How much do you have a race being that great from that arrow of Steelers to Balls Jr? You know, I think I've gotten to see the cycle and seeing, you know, I am the bridge in that accord. But, man, I just, I want to conquer that mountain that, that first part got to do. And, you know, I've told them about things that have happened in the past.

4:22:05Talked about what we've done and what I've, I've experienced. But, you know, when I was young, it was just about being a sponge. And, you know, just learning from those guys. It wasn't me saying it, it was just me shutting up after the time. So, you know, I'm in a different position now, but you can't do it alone. I'm just a great strong mountain process, just a pretty rare case for you. God, the coordinator of an NFL team, the game won after me. The head coach, you play Caller, you're the core of the same city. Do you use that at all or sort of like, it's Roach and Boros element there where you might be thinking you're seeing something that you're actually seeing something different? I don't know what it is. I feel like my anxiety is so high every year in the first game. I think we always play somebody new that's got something new going on. I don't know why there's just me overthinking it, but I think you just got to rely on your technique. You can overthink a lot of things and it can get you in the treble. But, relying on your technique, you know, play assignment good football.

4:23:05I think that allows you to play better. It allows you to not think as much. Because then you're not just waiting for someone to dictate terms, you're dictating the terms. So, that's all I'm really worried about. You know, I understand there's new nuances going on and new players, but got to play still a brand football. When you met with us the other day, did you think this would get done at that time? Man, it moved pretty fast. It was a mixed of a lot. I didn't want to get my hopes up too much. I wanted to just stay locked in. Because you never know, it could go sideways very quick. So, I wanted to just see the process through. And you could call it a poker face or what, but I think it wasn't time to really gauge where this thing could go. What do you think might be different from this time? I just think we've got a good balance. And, you know, we talk about defences being on a sideline.

4:24:09That's a good thing. And I think our offense can sustain that. Defens, I think, we're healthy this year and hopefully we stay that way. And then we have a component in the special teams. You know, you look at Miles Killabru. You look at Boswell. And then you have a guy like Cordero Patterson. I think that group of guys allows us to just, it's a complete team. You know, I know you guys might think differently, but in my mind, I think we have a good shot to compete in everything. And yeah, we had to have those a team to be able to talk to each other and communicate how everybody was feeling. We were like, why everybody thought the issues worked, but I didn't know they were a team. And everybody here stands with each other and you got to go play. Can that be? The team closer in some ways, you can galvanize the brotherhood even more. Definitely. Just getting information out that you have to each other and being more open and honest about everything, how you feel. It's a serious way to express your feelings to somebody that you really care about. You really want the best work.

4:25:11You're right behind the path, perfect 24-7 sports. The tempo, I think, is a big conversation. Coach Knowles was talking about some of the ways you guys are prepared for that. Some of the time for the anyways and practice, coming to the lead, someone who can't be the discerning of your teams. How have you felt like that has worked and having played against this tempo before? How prepared are you guys to be able to do it? You can only be able to practice fast in terms of getting prepared for the game. Last year we did the same thing out of the demo everybody. We run back and forth between drills and between practice, between plays. Pretty much we've been doing the same thing here and just trying to build up stamina and being able to play a full game. Because they play 80 plays a game. So just being able to do that and do it at a high level is one of your really big things. And that recognition, you need to know quickly what's happening. I guess it's just as big as getting wind out. Just getting one call and being able to get your cleats in the dirt is going to be really big. Just be able to play fast and play physical. And you have your eyes on the right place if you ever get the call in the back.

4:26:17It's way better than looking for the call late. Third or left? I hope that Corey and Skill knew I was taught that you were kind of one of the guys who took my leadership role after that mission in Game Time. Did you guys have that true and are so like what was your message to team? I mean I would say I was just the person that I was the whole season. I wouldn't say I did anything more than anything less than I've done all season in terms of leadership. But yeah, I mean everybody had to step up. You guys are like a mechic guys like JT, Jack. Everybody had to step up in terms of trying to get the team back on track where we were going to go. So that was really just the basic for us just to try to move our focus to where we're going to be. Right from Steve Helway at 24-7's course. Okay, this season you've been recognized pretty widely for your play. Just in your mind what you came to I State to accomplish. How did your expectations I guess beat up with how you feel you could play down to this point I guess?

4:27:18I feel like I've made the plays that came to me and that's where the Awkwankin control had more opportunities as he has progressed and been in spots to be around the ball. But the expectation was to come in here and contribute to the team and try to find a way to push the team to win games at Iowa. And to be better than they were latching for me to play better than I was latching. So really just coming to try to grow with myself and with the team. So that was my big goal and I feel like I've done a good job and the team has done a good job progressing through the year and getting better. So yeah that's all I can say about that. We're here to the right with 10-9, let me get it wrong. Yeah, I can't stand here right now. Just feel like a different season. What does it feel like for you going into the playoffs? You know, you don't get to go, you want necessarily to win your season but here you are. Right? I mean what is that sense that you have right now?

4:28:18That's different maybe. It's about the breaking of season. I mean everybody wants to say it's a new season in terms of. Because if everybody's 0-0 right now, when you keep going, if you lose you're done. So I mean, but genuinely that's how you play every game. You know that play every game is your last game. So for me I don't think it's really any difference to be able to go play at a high level every game. That can't be based at all on the playoffs. You have to go play every game like this is the same thing. So I would say in terms of that, no you just have to play the game and play the game this year. What feels different about this defense right now going into this? So the outfit will even more. The tie that we close together, what is your sense of the furtherhood that's so to speak of the defense? I feel like we progressed throughout the season. We had to make a change after game 6 because we lost and we didn't play well that game. And I feel like we've grown from that and got into a better place.

4:29:20And over these past two weeks off just realizing, okay, these are the things that we've messed up throughout the year. These are what we need to face. These are what this team is trying to exploit on us. So just really going back through everything and seeing what can do better for this kind of game or for the next kind of games. Last couple of questions. Tell me, you heard me fuck a hell. How does the Tennessee's wise players and curve receivers impact you as a Thunder? I feel like it makes the game more or more one game. I mentioned receivers in your DVs at the play of 7 games and the guys up front. And it makes it truthfully like those guys have to do their job and these guys have to do your job. You've got to be able to stop the run. But if you believe you have them to run fit and you have to be able to stop the path with the people you have out there. So that's what they do and they do it at a really elite level. So it's going to be tough to go with. That's my last question. Joey Paulman from this discussion. Coach knows the speed of which.

4:30:20You guys are able to call in place. Is this built the tempo? Is it how fast he can play? Call in? Because the player kind of bands is that it gives you just speed of which. Coach, call in. All right. It allows you to get your cleats in it. That's right earlier. Just a ability to see the formation and see what keys that you have before the play and have knowledge of your job and not really thinking. Being able to play and not think during the game is a really big thing. So whenever you can get the call that faster and play their high level and play without thought. That's a really good thing for your team. Caleb, thank you very much. Appreciate you all. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Some place here there. Is there anything else you want to offer on there? Yeah. Yeah. Season everybody's being done. Throughout training camp you and Aziz got very close. How good is to see him back on the field and how were you able to be there for him as he went through that three game suspension? Yeah. It's great to have him back.

4:31:20I'm really happy that he's back and I know he's very motivated to play. I'm excited for him. He's a form team and he's able to, you know, in the season RWA going into the playoffs. So, yeah, you know, he's a leader and we need him around and nothing else. Definitely going to help this team. Today, some of the teams have already played off first are resting players this week. But to me, because that all you guys are going to play, you think it's important for you guys to get out there. Try to get back on track before the playoffs start this week. You know, I can say that, you know, it's, you know, the game requires a plan first and you know, we got to trust his plan and go out there and play. So, you know, I'm excited, you know, it's all, it's a blessing, you know, to be able to go and play in this league whenever it is. So, you know, we're excited to play Tennessee and you know, probably more even excited to play in the playoffs. But I do, you know, think that this could help us. You practice against him all year and you see the top corners.

4:32:23There's an engineer, the pro bowl will come out this week and last year's alternate. We think of his chance to earn that distinction and what he's done to improve himself. Hey, you know, he's probably the best athlete I've been around in my life, you know, just bossing those speed, strength, size, you know. And just somebody who, you know, I've seen and just grow, you know, as a player. But, you know, I'm just very happy for him, you know, I think, especially just having this top of the year before, I think he can renegotiate. So, mom, you know, he's about to get a bag and I'm happy for him, he deserves it. So, yeah, but that's not his motivation, which is dope. It's just being elite at football. And I think he's going to be great in his league for a long time. What did you get to experience in January football last year, playoff time? What is it about when the calendar turns in January and the national football league? Yeah, it's a new season, you know, it's a new excitement, you know, you know, you know, you know, it's all about, you know, winning that week, you know. And it's, you know, when you dumb it down, it's like, all right, you get to win four more games and, you know, that's it, you know.

4:33:30So, of course, it's not that easy, but, you know, you have to find a way to motivate yourself. But it's motivation just, you know, being able to contend, you know, and I think it's good for us, you know, to realize, hey, man, we, I know it's going on. I don't know exactly what's being said, but, you know, we put ourselves in this position. It's not by chance, not by luck. It's not by people, other people is by us being a good football team. And I want my team to remember that as like, you know, people are going to talk, simple in playing. And we're the ones out there playing and we got, we got into the playoffs by being a good football team and we're going to continue to be that. And I'm excited, man. It's a new, you all know. And, you know, hopefully we get healthy going into there and be able to, you know, play whoever we play here. Really tough and hopefully you'll win. Your teammates have always mentioned on how competitive you are. You want to win everything, your perfectionist, because that nature. But they've also said, like, in games, you know how to like, not get too high, not get too low. So how do you kind of challenge that ultra competitiveness and keep it within that tube to want to compete but not get out of it?

4:34:37You know, besides yourself, how do you kind of go about not only seeing that competitive try but not allowing it to like, maybe play beyond, you know, out of here yourself? Yeah, I mean, I just say just be myself, you know, I mean, I've been kind of this way in my whole life of, I mean, you have matured in a lot of ways in my life, both on and off the field. Yeah, I would say just failures have helped me realize, you know, what is important to me trying things that I didn't like doing things that I didn't like and then learning from it on and off the field has helped me ultimately with just that, I guess that calmness that I have now. Even in chaos, I guess, but yeah, I guess it's just, you know, trial and error. And that's why I don't try my best not to like hardness or duck things that are difficult in life because ultimately the values teach you, you know, humility they teach you. Just, you know, teach how to get up, you know, and the Bible says that the righteous man falls on seven times and he gets up and, you know, just like Peter, you know, I want to get up.

4:35:45So that's what I plan to do and yeah, so that's all I feel like why I'm the way I'm just being able to learn from my failures. So I'm going to take you off the field for a second is there a new years resolution for CJ Stroud? I was probably a lot. Man, I don't know, I really, I've never really believed in these resolutions. It's like I kind of started this a couple months ago. This journey, I started to just, you know, really just locking back in with the Lord, you know, was, you know, kind of in a lukewarm season, you know, one foot in, one foot out. I mean, you know, the Lord has helped me to get out of that. And so that's really my 20, 25 goal is just be locked in with the Lord as much as possible and, you know, and fast and praying, you know, being part of getting discipled, getting part of a church here in Houston, which I've been able to do. So, yeah, just that's my 20, 25 goal is just, you know, getting closer with the Lord. All right. Thank you, guys.

4:36:56I'd say, the role of stuff, how much is it grown that you can put your finger on? Yeah, I was growing immensely. I mean, Caleb, he makes a lot of checks, lathe, makes a lot of checks. I listen to them. Whatever they need, if I need to cover somebody, I'll go cover anybody. If they need me to do run support, I'll do run support. And it's really what Caleb does. What we do and lathe, it just goes back to the coach, G's preparation and everyone's preparation to give us more flexibility. And it doesn't matter who's in those positions. And we can all play every position, whether it's covering somebody or running, running and tackling. Did you feel like that was the case before the Oregon game? You're saying what I'm saying? I mean, is it something that's been added? It just, you know, rely on a little bit more. Yeah, it did. I've probably been a brassica game, Megan and more safety reps. And we had a five week to prepare. So I really learned to play, but a lot more, even though I knew the playbook, I learned a lot more. Like in debt, you know, so really just after the Oregon game, it helped me a lot to go back to safety, go, go to nickel everywhere.

4:38:02And I'm sure you guys had a lot of issues of giving up big plays in the passing game of the first game against Oregon. What do you feel you guys need to do better this time around to make sure that doesn't happen? Just the same same mindset. We got to challenge these receivers. You know, every dog has her day. Maybe some people didn't have their day that game, but we'll look out there and hopefully change the narrative. And we still play with the same confidence, same technique and, yeah, they'll remain with us this batch. And Denzel obviously had a tough game and that one. What have you seen from him and how he's responded? Do you get a sense of from him? How up to you for this rematch? Oh, yeah, he's super stoked for this rematch. His preparation has been very good. He's always been preparing, you know, it didn't go the way he wanted to go that game, but he just always had his confidence. And we're going to see a big game out of him this week. And, you know, I know you guys wanted to play them in anapolis, but the fact that you get to play them at the Rose Bowl. I mean, get a second chance and people have said you don't get that very often.

4:39:11How determined are you guys to take advantage of it? We're super, super determined. We watched film. I mean, we've lost a lot of film. The first time we played them, now we've got another six games that they played up film to watch. And it's just they've grown a lot as a team same as us. We've grown a lot. We're not the same team. We were when we played them week one or weeks, say, so whatever. But now we're out there and going to play fast, physical and everything like that. Jordan, we're going to jump to the to assume a question here from Joey Coffin. Columbus this batch. Oh, my bad. Not you, Joey. Cameron T. Robinson, the athletic. Hey, Jordan, you've moved around a lot in the second day in your career and now kind of getting some many more safety reps. What is it like at this point when when Walt or Coach knows comes to you and asks you to do some else and just how much can you lean on the experiences you've had moving around when you're trying to learn something new in the middle of season? It means a lot. We always talk about this is being on selfish. Whether that's making plays or not making plays or doing your job so another person can make plays.

4:40:18That's kind of what we pride ourselves on. And it's just fun. Me moving around different positions. I'm always up for a new challenge and a lot of people in the country can't do that. I just hold myself to that standard where I can play any position and excel at it. Okay, if anybody else needs a question, let me know. But otherwise we're going to go to Austin more of the podcast. Jordan, when you were talking about watching film or again, which one do you think is more valuable to you watching that against yourself? Seven games ago, even if you've changed or the ensuing six games for Oregon, which one do you put more stock in? Kind of both. For me, I kind of watch what I did things I did well things I didn't do too well against them. And their team is not like their scheme has changed. Some players have been out those those stretch of games. So I really watched the past game we played and I know they're going to go back to some of the stuff that they liked, of course. And different games like Penn State, maybe Illinois, they run a lot of men. So just watching watching stuff like that every game matters.

4:41:23So yeah. Jordan, thank you very much. Thank you. Jay, Jay, this is Frank. And I'm playing for him. He played much longer season than he just played before in high school. So what do you think looks like? I think everyone played a lot longer than they ever have. So I think heading to the spring, it's just the tear down of the former foundation and the rebuild of the whole new team. I mean, you have to have that mindset. You have to have a mind, a day one mindset in order to progress. You can't rely on previously built culture or schematic understanding. There's no assumptions. You have to rebuild from scratch, or in the process of that, we will treat day one like day one. That includes, includes Jeremiah Smith. And so great opportunity to, you know, evaluate and grow a new group of guys. I think in spring, I think our opinion is, you know, by fall, everything the team, the team, the team, it's what it's all about.

4:42:25But in order to add to a team, in order to add to a collective, you got to focus on the individual. The individual must improve so the collective can improve. And so building the base, I think schematically and fundamentally culturally is what we're attacking as we head into spring. How much is Brandon looking forward to a different spring, a different opportunity? I know it wasn't fun for him having to take a little bit of a backseat to a Mecca. Where do you see him, the fire, the passion right now? Is he gets right to this one? Yeah, I think when you come out of a season, you get out of January and kind of take a breath. Then when you get back in the winter, it's the first opportunity to reestablish the new role that I want to have. I mean, across the board, there's not one guy that doesn't want to improve roles. So I think they're all attacking it that way. I think Brandon's one of them, but he's one of 50. And I think that it's our job to provide opportunities to grow, to separate themselves, to see peer to peer evals, to allow these guys to check a chase a role.

4:43:36Least through through winter they've gotten that started to continue that through spring. And I think Brandon's, you know, fits in line with that. I think Brandon did a great job looking back of finding his role last year and excelling at it. You know, we talk a lot about if you want to be a starter, you have to be a starter before you start. And if you're not, they're never going to be the starter. So I think he embodied that, you know, he gave himself an opportunity to get into spring and get into us. Excuse me, into winter, continue who he is, continue to build, you know, his base, build his leadership. And then now he's got to get that in spring. So all the great things you do prior doesn't mean anything. You don't have to go out there and do it in spring. So that's the harsh reality of this sport. You know, what have you done lately? And I think all these guys are chewing at the bit to get back on the field. Brian, you everybody brings their own experience. Ryan was quarterback, you were a receiver, and then to come and play, Paul, are obviously you have an understanding of the whole offense.

4:44:36But what was the process like for you up protections and the run game and quarterback play and just continuing to grow with your knowledge of that part of the game as you prepared. For this position. Yeah, I mean, I think you're always growing. I think that, you know, you still have a specialty here. You still have an expertise in one area that's seen you have an expertise in all of it. That's just not true. And in my opinion, I've seen multiple coordinators. And I know that as a fact. So, you know, for me, I think it's just you have an opportunity to be with the best staff in America every single day with the best coach in America. So, just stay off your phone and pay attention and take notes and actually maximize your time. It's amazing the amount of people that don't do that. So, every time in a meeting, I just try to make sure I'm getting a nugget or I'm getting information or when things are said, do I truly understand it. And I really, guys, will tell you, I don't care. I'll ask the question. I think I'm, I look dumb. But I don't care because I want to know the information. So, I think that approach, I think a lot of guys have that approach.

4:45:42That approach allows you to just build, you know, over time. And then that'll continue to build from now to game one and enough build to the season. So, the opportunity to grow is literally daily. So, I just try to make sure I'm finding those opportunities. I'm aware of those opportunities when they're writing my face. So, we should be able to do a role in the offensive meeting room. How important is it to do a huge, huge... Yeah, Coach Jordan's always been a huge part of other receiver room. I think that, yeah, he's just understanding that my pull away is real. That can happen. So, he's going to be on his toes and be ready that, you know, we're ready to not skip a beat, right? So, information wise, communication wise, he's got to be locked in on that and just on to assume that, you know, Coach Hard's got it. He really has. I expect him to continue to do that. And, you know, he's been a big part of everything we've done. Is that almost like taken from what Ryan did last year where he shipped away from play-gallowing? And maybe that's somebody else.

4:46:42And, you should think away from being a quarterbacks coach where you're like, didn't have somebody to trust. And how long did he take you maybe to develop that trust and that relationship with them and to where like, you know that, hey, if I pulled away for a second, like, Devon's got this. And I don't have to worry about like, what my room is. I think it's more important that I do a great job being organized. So, I'm never pulled away. I will be in that receiver room and they will be coached at the very highest level. So, I think there's ways to eliminate being pulled away by being organized on top of things, having the right work and working, right help before that receiver meeting ever happens. Is that important for you because that's the question you've got to emphasize? Nothing is going to change in terms of your, I never... There's no, nothing's going to change in my involvement in the receiver room. Brian, for my land to be going through a full spring, Philoxy, for the first time, what do you look at everything? It's areas he can grow to push for playing time this year. Yeah, I mean, my land is doing a great job. He's growing at an exponential rate, getting stronger, getting bigger, he's got way added. You know, I'll tell you like, you know, I always explain to him like, you don't realize how much you've missed when you come in June versus a mid-year.

4:47:48Like, it's massively different. Not saying you can't overcome it, some do. At the end of the season, you know, some have. But, you know, I think that's probably reliant on the room. You know, I know Chris had an opportunity late, a lot of a, you know, in the season to kind of make an impact. But it's very, very rare. So, and now, you know, he's going through the winner workout, his growth, his everything he's done. He's like, hey, coach, I know what you're talking about now. And when you miss that, that section of winner workout. So that being said, it makes you laugh, but he's doing a great job. I expect expectations for him through through spring. And I don't see that changing. The only thing that's left the office is that this year is younger than it's been last year's. I think it's a makeup book that you don't have somebody to use. What's the average? Like the average like 30 is the average age. Is that include supports that? No, it's just the primary. What's it? What's it been in the past? A couple minutes.

4:48:48Two more minutes. No kidding. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. Damn, Lanings, the head coach in Oregon, I was there. I was his average. I'm asking. I don't. I'm 38. Can he deal with him? It's 30s. So I don't really know. I gave zero thought to that. I think that, you know, I think your ability to kept with players is important. I think you probably see a little bit that happy in the NFL as well. I really have given zero thought to that. I don't want to just ramble on that. Yeah, I just didn't know if it was the size of the main. No, no thought to it. What you were doing with Bryson. What's the next step for him? We've heard him. He's like, he seems to generate a little bit of buzz, but has limited role. Like now he's got an opportunity. What's the next step? Take the next step and be a be everything he's capable of being, right? I mean, I think the guys that you know, we're out there are very consistent in all job faces.

4:49:49I think he wants to be a full rounded receiver. You know that. I think he loves playing in the slot. The great job there. I asked him to come out to the outside a little bit. Did a good job out there. I think it's natural positions and is in the slot doing a great job there. But it's just another opportunity to establish himself based on his peers, right? I mean, it's kind of like the drafts. I try to explain sometimes to these guys like you come to Ohio State to compete with the best. It'd be alongside the best. It's always pure to peer evals. Like that's how it works. Like the draft embodies that. Like if it's easier to go play somewhere else, then that's fine. If that's what we're kind of looking for per se, I'm not saying that's pressing. I'm just saying it's a very competitive room. And you chose that because of this room. Now you got to beat your peer to play more and do more and all that stuff. So, you know, I think that he's got continue to build worries at. And the guys that seem to be, you know, starters in our room. You know, really, I think over the last eight years have been NFL quality guys. So if you're and it become a starter to Ohio State, it's a good chance.

4:50:50You're probably NFL caliber receiver. I mean, again, just go off the numbers. So you're chasing that can't get discouraged or maybe not being, you know, not doing what you think you should have done. And that goes for everybody. It's not just Bryson, but all these guys are chasing that. As I ramble about Bryson. But, you know, I think that it's not just him. It's at B.I. It's car now with everybody wants. It's chasing a higher level of play. And this brings another step forward to do that. Which is a huge rush. How much in your estimation is that a gift to be able to do it? How much of it is learned? Where do you stand on that? Oh, never gave it a lot of thought to it. I've never called a play in a game. So for me to have an opinion, I think that'd be a little brash. I would say that like anything, it's probably a skill that you can improve on and do better at and do good and do worse at. I think being surrounded with guys and seeing how they do it has been a blessing. And it's very clear. Others more than one way to do things.

4:51:52So being aware of that, I've noticed that. What's your impression of the three freshmen and how they maybe transition to your team? Yeah, all four freshmen. I'm like very encouraged and pressed with. They carry themselves the right way like we have hoped. They worked their tails off. If all improved, I would say that. Whether I mold the right fit, they belong in the room. And now they have to just improve another competing both, you know, first individually between each other. And then, you know, as we get into spring, they'll start competing against each other. With the rest of the guys, what I mean by that. So, but as a group, the freshman group, very impressed and they're off to the right start. Go Charland, thank you very much. Start with Lincoln. You know, a guy that's going to his third year here. And I think really like, when you've been in an office for two years already, you're going to that third year. You've got a really good feel of the scheme. You've got a better feel of college defenses and, you know, where our schemes are susceptible. And what were the issues? I am what we're trying to attack.

4:52:54And so I think, you know, that's something that over time I can feel Lincoln getting a better and better feel for it. You know, Lincoln has definitely stepped up from a leadership perspective. And you can see the way that, you know, he attacks workouts and, you know, this winner is so big for all three of them. Just really just set the standard and to understand the intangibles that playing quarterback is all about. Right? Because there's so much more than just picking up a football and throwing it when it comes to this succeeded on Saturdays. So I've seen that growth from Lincoln and that's really exciting. As for Julian, you know, last year going into the year, he was competing for a job and, you know, end up not winning the job. And, you know, he could have turned it down and been bummed out and, you know, not attacked it the way way. But I saw him continue to go throughout the year. So I'm going from well and to get to a point this year where we're now he can step up and be more of a vocal leader. And that's something I've seen growth of him as well. You know, he's put on some weight and he looks good and he's definitely attacked his time in the, you know, the winner.

4:53:56And so that's been awesome. And then Tadin comes in and, you know, Tadin, Tadin, you know, really should still be in high school. Instead, he's, you know, in my office all the time, learning the offense. And when he's out with me, he's with Coach Mac, and we's out with Coach Macri. He's over there doing academics and so so his days are pretty jam packed and it's definitely new for him. But his commitment to wanting to be great and wanting to be to the level where he can go out and compete in the spring has been really impressive. So I'm excited for all three of them. Does it feel like what August 30th is it just around the corner years? I want to say and you got to have a way to go. Yeah, I don't think so. I don't think so quite yet. You know, I think we have a unique situation where we've got three really talented kids. You know, they're all young. They all have a lot of room to grow. And I think they all understand that and are eager to attack tech growth. But most college football teams or a lot of college football teams going through a year and they end up, you know, having a guy get hurt or something happens.

4:54:59So as far as, you know, having one guy, I guess not to go either. We want to develop the room. We want all three of them to continue to get better, to continue to develop and, you know, be guys that we can count on throughout the season. So you guys went to Port, scholarship guy? That's still in conversation. We'll kind of see how it goes. You know, obviously three is a little bit less than we typically have. But you know, the three that we're really confident in right now. You got to ride and work in the sport of acts too. You work in the sport of acts. You work in the sport of acts. You work in the sport of acts. Who's filling out your room? I mean, you have someone that you've had in mind to come in and meet the assistant Ryu. Or how do you see that? Yeah, right now Colin Kienos in helping me. So Colin was working with me at Akron. He was a student assistant and he was really, really impressive there. So he's going to come in and he's going to help out with some of the day-to-day stuff. And then, you know, Coach Day and I, I've built a pretty good relationship where, you know, between my time here as a GA, where, you know, I learned the game of football the way he sees it. And that was such a pivotal time in my career, you know, I was so blessed in college.

4:56:03And then in my first couple, you know, my first job there, that I got to work with Joe Morehead. And, you know, I learned so much football from that man. And I credit so much of my career to him to put me in the position. But then having the opportunity to, okay, hey, maybe I'm going to see you through a little bit of a different lens and to learn how Coach Day sees it. It was so big for me in my development. So that couple of years as a GA was awesome for me. And then last year to be able to sit in with him and really kind of see the game, you know, in a similar fashion. I'm always going to continue to learn from him because he's just such a special coach. But to be able to see it, you know, in a similar way and continue to bounce thoughts on him to make sure that him and I are communicating in the same way. You know, Coach Day will always be directly involved with the quarterbacks. And now Coach Hartline will as well, you know, as the offensive coordinator, I think, as the guy in that chair, you have to have a relationship with the guy that's in the hotel. I think that's really important. So, you know, him and I have already begun conversations just about, you know, how that's going to work out and how, you know, he's going to continue to see the game the same way. The same way that the quarterback does and how he's going to communicate to them. Those conversations are already beginning.

4:57:03So it'll be, it'll definitely be a combination of, you know, us three. Billy Kavian being there from the championship round. How about that help with the development? Well, it's pretty cool. Just about every one of those games where he was at a playoff game at the national championship. You know, our guys were warming up and I grabbed him. I say, hey, look around. You've got to take a couple minutes to take the same, right? This is what it looks like. This is what this is what we work for. So, you know, when you get to a really hard day in the winter, right? You just remember not a homework and to get to that point. So for him to have that experience and to be able to see that and, you know, hopefully one day when he's in that spot, he's like, oh, I've seen this before. I know what it looks like. I think it's pretty cool, I think, just to have that bank in his memory. I think it comes off. I'm not smoking, but he's without question, you know, come out of the show. And I would even say he's not spoken last year. You know, I think that he kind of understood that, you know, Will was in charge of the offense and he knew that he was young and still earning respect.

4:58:06You know, a big part about leadership is you can't just walk into a room and start leading. You have to earn the respect to your peers and truly understood that. And, you know, I think he earned that respect throughout the year. And so this year, you're definitely seeing a step up him and Lincoln both, you know, are in that phase where they were in the winter. And so they're doing a really good job leading right now and in Tavians doing a good job on respect. So we're kind of in the middle right there between those two phases. Really, Lincoln is, I think still less than two years, just specializing. Because this is really, actually, kind of the end of his festival here. I guess where do you think he is harnessing all of that all on athletic ability to be a really good coach? Yeah, I mean, there's no question that Lincoln is special, I think. And, you know, guys that have that background that have been successful in multiple different sports. One way or another is going to translate to the game of football. So I think that we're continuing to see that Lincoln, you know, I think as the more that he is in position to understand and learn the game,

4:59:11and which we saw last year, you continue to grow. And so to take that into spring, you know, and combine that with his athletic ability, I'm excited to see. I think it'll be really good competition. Can I go? Can you pull back truly lead until he is the quarterback? Oh, absolutely. I mean, the interval one is quarterback. Oh, I think so. I think so. I mean, leadership comes in all different phases, you know, in all different ways. There's, you know, there's without question, I've been part of different teams and I've seen it where maybe the guy that wasn't the starting quarterback was the strongest leader on the team. So I definitely think that that's part of it. You know, I think once you earn the respect of your teammates and once you show that, you know, you're going to lead by example and they respect you for that. You're in position now that you can be vocal. So, you know, I definitely don't think that you need to be a starter named a quarterback to be a leader at all. Even around some incredible offensive minds in college already, what are your, what are the traits you look for specifically as a quarterback being a quarterback yourself?

5:00:16Yeah. You know, I think it comes in a couple different ways. You know, from a tangible perspective, I think that you've got to be extremely accurate. I think you have to be able to make great decisions with the football and get the ball out of the time. And I think that you have to be able to do it. And we saw the problem with the feet. So, you know, it's rare in college football that every protection's blocked up perfectly or everything goes exactly that we drew it up on the whiteboard. So, when things break down, I'll be able to fix it with our legs. And then, you know, as far as intents will scroll, I look at, I look at, you know, guy like Will who had those intents was about as well as I've ever seen. And that's just a complete command and understanding of both the offense and the huddle to know exactly what we're trying to do on every single play. Know what we're trying to attack, understand where the issues are and where they lie and how you're going to combat those issues. To be able to understand, you know, when it's time to move on for the ballway and move on to the next play.

5:01:16And then also be mentally tough enough that when things don't go our way, to be able to react the right way and move on to the next way. Did you go last year or last year? What last question? You go quite a question. At all, were you just focused on last year? Oh, no, no, I didn't do this in addition. Oh, I did. When you're coaching and you build a relationship with these guys, you want nothing more than for them to go out and have success on the field. And I think that's so important. Like I sit in that room and you know, it's about them. It's about them going out and reaching their potential and maximizing their talents and going out and execute on the field. And so, you know, last year I was just trying to find a way that I could help them do that. So, you know, to be able to work with those guys last year and to help out and, you know, have them see some success. It was special for me, but it was special for me because I know how bad they wanted it. And so that was pretty neat. I have to do some big scene to feel this cutty was a great player, great leader. He's like me the quarterback and the defense. He's definitely some big scene to feel.

5:02:17And like, of course, Lauren, I said that you got to be who you are or not. Yeah, you can just out of being, but definitely that's what you feel. When did you feel like you blossomed last year or they could truly count on you and stuff? I mean, you remember how you came along? I think it started in like fall camp just flashed in there. I had to like the first day and was wearing a wrong side on this hallline. I don't know what it is, but like with the presentation. I'm just being great. I like him. I like his personality. I like him all feel and that's not important. Yeah. And the life records. What kind of difference does the responsibility is or the use in this system? Or is it going to be the same or is it kind of safe? Oh. We just learn it right now. We just work it out. We just work it right now. We just learn how to stay the same. What do you think about CJ Higgs and what he can do in his defense? I think CJ Higgs said what he could do in his defense? Or just what he can do in his season. You can do this season? I think CJ is going to pop up this season for sure.

5:03:17I think this definitely going to be one of his years for sure. Got to. What do you think is the biggest difference between Frank's and your map of church? To me, it's no difference. They both coach you and they both like they hard on you, but they want you to be great. So I'm not taking that difference. You're talking about how you're working out what you guys do and fitting in. Do you think Junior's going to work? So are you trying to plug and touch you guys? Oh. No, I'll do so. What's the result of the approach you do about the stuff you do on a walk? Is it a player or something? I think Sunny is a great year. First before anything, Sunny is a great year. So I feel like he's like a voice. I think that's something that Sunny just can't worry about for the whole team to understand. So Sunny definitely a great year before anything.

5:04:17I think that's something that's not just for why bad person. I think that's something that people would be able to do. How does that show itself? Obviously local? You know, it's a big thing. And before. What is it? There's something that you need to wrap up. On to my only field or when it's leadership? Like I said, he's just a great leader. Like he, a vocal guy. Like you said, it shows up on the field too. So he's, it's hard to follow up to a guy who says something don't own. And like, they not own their stuff. So Sunny, one of those guys, he's own his stuff. So when he leaves, everybody listen. It's obviously been long-streamed linebacker success of a high-risk state. You've been a long-streamed linebacker success at a high-risk state. And I mean, you look at, you know, guy like Sunny taking that next step this year. How motivated are you to be part of that linebacker success? I'm ready for it. I mean, that's what I'm hopeful. The most, the most at stake. But, you know, like I said, we're trying to treat it like a business trip.

5:05:17You know, we're not here. You know, this isn't the normal bull trip. But we're not here to, you know, necessarily go sightseeing or check out the city or anything. We're here to win a football game. That's what we're here for. You know, we're going to be punked down, doing everything we can to get this way. Well, if you talk about motivation, getting over that October 12th game, I think you talk about really the link of trying to balance out of not getting too high on your emotion. How does that motivation for you show up on an idea of that basis? Well, it's more preparation, more film. What does that look like for you? Yeah, it's just really an edge and everything you do, I feel like. And, you know, carrying that kind of pissed off mentality. I mean, obviously not letting it affect you in a negative way. But, you know, making it remind you, hey, like, I'm going to go the extra inch here. I'm going to, you know, see if I can find something extra on film late at night. I'm going to, you know, go over this sheet again and call the plays one more time. Like, all these little things that, you know, I just, you know, we just can't let that what happened last night happened again. Well, earlier this week, I was talking about how you played back here football.

5:06:20He tended to be playing in the Rose Bowl. You grew up in a big 10th country. What does it mean to take part in this game? What does this mean? It gave me to you, kind of growing up. It means to tell a man it's crazy that, you know, that God has blessed me and put me in this position to be here and be the quarterback in the Rose Bowl. You know, a game that I grew up watching every single year. Some unbelievable games that I've watched in the Rose Bowl, some classics. And, just to be a part of it is a blessing. And I think we're all humbled to be here. We're all understanding of how unbelievable this opportunity is and we're not taking it lightly because, you know, again, it's a business trip. And, you know, the only thing that we're looking at is, you know, we win this game, we go on and play in the Cup Bowl. So, you know, it's really exciting. It's, you know, crazy that we're here and that we're the part of this, but, you know, can't let it be too big. You know, gotta go out there and play football, you know. It was a fair to say. It was interesting. I think so. I think, you know, you go back and watch the film and, you know, I just didn't, you know, and I'm hypercritical in myself and I think we all are here.

5:07:29You know, but I just look at it and I'm like, man, I don't think anyone this year beat us. You know, I think we beat ourselves every time. And, you know, you watch and, you know, we had the turnover, you know, at our own 20-hour blind. And they got the kick, you know, that's two possession, just called the first half. And then, you know, obviously, the way the game ended, like, another, and we're still one point away. And that's what, what hurts, and it was, you know, a hostile environment in their place. You know, I'm just, I'm just thankful that, you know, I said this, I said this the other day, but I'm just thankful that we get through the other game. Do you feel like, you know, if we're looking back to two weeks ago from Tennessee, you feel like, you're as accomplished as a bad guy. You know, if you're looking at this, maybe one day, you know, to show the, you know, you know, you put it all together. Yeah. What is your sense of the team from that aspect? Does it feel a little bit different? Yeah, I think, you know, a game like that, you know, and stills confidence in that, because it shows us we're looking for new people. But you can't beat complacency. And it can never be comfortability.

5:08:29It has to be confidence and drive. And that's what it has to, it has to be just to be like, man, like we can do this. We play it our best, I don't know if it was anyone in the country that can hang with us, but we have to be on our game. We have to make sure that, you know, we can't let anything come back to this. I'm not thankful for this last one. I'm not thankful for that. I feel like I'm only a shun of this offense, that's an odd trooper. What do you mean by this a key for an offense, for a offense? I just, you know, at the end of the day, I just want to keep the ball moving down the field, you know, getting in a rhythm, I think it's going to be big for us. And I think we did a really good job of that in Tennessee game. We're weathering the storm a little bit early, and there were a couple early calls that we got to fail to sound in that game. And kept us going, but regardless, we kept the drive going. And for me, keeping us on schedule, taking care of the ball, and making sure that we can bird on third down in our situation we can. We do all that stuff, obviously for me, and I want to beat these guys and drive them to the machine because we're on our stuff.

5:09:33We're on our stop, so we just got to make sure that we finish our preparation, right? These last two days, and go out there and put our best work. Thanks for all the patience guys. You come out this way. What kind of calls do you have to be in the back table? A good one. You know, especially Sergeant Longbrown, my whole goal is to just get going. It's either just keep going, and then when I got back, I was in the credit. That's what I was trying to keep me going. You lost on to the game, did you ever finish your new self-being where you are right now at this one of your food? I definitely tried to, because I definitely don't really know if you speak something, and I'm kind of trying to be passionate about it, and it's just really helpful to kind of see the vision and stick to that. So it's a blessing to be here.

5:10:34You spend some of the vibes guys in the tight end room and the monitor? A lot of the rules are past schedule things. The vibe guys, I'd say, Ben at pressure, just walk away. He kind of brings some good energy. Jason Middleton right there too. He kind of oversees Max and Barron for a little bit. That's pretty fun. And then catching, we all have some pretty good office and entertainment, especially practice we've all made some good money. Very competitive for a fish here. Definitely competitive, but in a good way. We're all there, supportive. We all know our strength and business, and we're all going to have to practice. We're working with each other and hopefully totally get better, because we all know that we're moving to other. We'll see what's going on. There are a few, you know, he just has a problem with the long-time safety and pressure from the doctor. I'm in there every point where he's pushed. Okay, I'm part of it. I need to be like, understand. If you're in the way, please do.

5:11:36Definitely not. If you're not helping people who are in power, you'll have to speak to them with a time of go right there. I have to tell you that it's a feeling on that place. Something that's taught in the early days. I mean, it was before doctors when I knew that. The doctors were just when I first started. I mean, I mean, that's what our unit is. We're trying to trust us. I was wondering if you were going to bring out where you got your hat and that part of the problem. I would say we definitely would bring what he'd started in this way. That's where the same started.

5:12:36I'm just trying to get it far from just, you know, the hundred percent of the problem. I'm also just going to bring it in. I know we've been talking about that. I think that's all the way to the matter. You guys have been getting through a lot of things. I mean, I want to really say that it's real and the toughness. That's real and the talent of the least is right there. So, you know, if we thought of it, it's a laugh. I mean, it's all started. I know those are the last but I would say our indie, I kind of rose into lots of toughness. I think these problems are tough as well. Going full reps, you know, all the people told me to look for blocks. They're not fast enough. So, you know, I have to split. I mean, I just want to do this. I'm really going to go against you this year. How much has your coming from family been a 33-store two? You've been being a football player here at Ohio State? I mean, being 20 minutes from home is pretty nice. And my dad, playing here, is a big one too.

5:13:38So, just being able to go back home and spend time with family is good. And it's a good thing. How often do you go back? I would say probably once a week, or as soon as I leave, somewhere around there, not that far. There's some good people. Yeah, get a family dinner there. No, there. Do you ever go back for a very high school event? Sure. Go back to being there. Yeah. When the schedule permits. Yeah, it's like when we're by weeks or this week I can go back. So, it's not that. When things ramp up for a school, I'm going to have to do that like that. Yeah, it does. I especially wanted to do this. I'm going to have to do that. You really have to go back and see what you're going to do. You really have to go back and see what you're going to do. Now that we're in this over 10 years, what excited about this is about getting on field in the engine. You're playing meaningful football. You know, brothers, seeing the brothers succeed. You're just knowing that all the work that we put in and doing with the football team.

5:14:39That's awesome. Are you a big guy who had on the taking in the environment where you could fall business once you step out of the finance field? I probably said to my business. I kind of just kind of went out there and bought a lot of money. But there's moments when we had a big run at Notre Dame on the table now. That was awesome. There's moments like that when we just kind of had to look at it. When you were when you were at Notre Dame and getting on the football snatch, how can you prepare for that for everything that you do? You can get fresh in that moment. Practice. You know, breaking the gears, practice a hundred percent here. So that's when it's in the journey. And then if you're in the same room, you know, you're working at the game and it's just right there about practices like closest. When you're thinking about it, that's what it's worth.

5:15:41You're talking about the D.D. You know what's the type of working and defense practice? How do they push you as to having a better experience? A little quicker than me. So I'd like to get my hands on them a little bit if I can. I'm just kind of grateful for that. That, you know, their quickness kind of helps me get my feet on them. I'm a headless host. Let's make a headhouse out of that by coming with that. I'm a product. I have the head on me. I'm a coach and you have the blood. I'm a guy that keeps in the middle of the thing on. I'm a fan of fighting for that new goal. What if they might see the top programs? I mean, you've seen a lot of those get the growth. But you know what's worth it? I mean, I'm a headbucker.

5:16:54I mean, it's good. How important is my leadership on the development of the field? Good. Yeah, we're close to the top. I'm Web 15. Bob Allen. Thank you for your time. First utility. A lot of playmaking. A lot of down and dirty blocks. I have got better blocking. Just right. It's an exciting player. I think he paid half the kind of year he did last year as a receiver. Like how inspiring is that in the seed away tight interview using the office? Man, China is a, or a jet highlight more and more. And K was just one of the people that stood out this year because he put in that work consistently. And not the word he laid nights early mornings, even with me sometimes. What do you like to say? What do you like about blocking? Blocking. Just knowing that you can physically move him. That's all blocking is. Knowing that you can get your right back to the kids.

5:17:54Just by you cut somebody up. If you can area it, like you've made the biggest strike. Which one? Of course, it was something one thing that highlighted when I first got here. Knowing that in high school, I didn't do really too much of it. I was more of a catcher while I was here. But when you got do what you got to do, you got to get better. What's the thing you've worked with? What's the block? Blocking. It's all about leverage. It's all about leverage. You break higher, you have your leverage, you're in the block. What's it been like having an air here? Hey, that's my dog. It's always good, again, somebody from back home, especially with a guy you already had connection with for two or three years and years before that with football before high school. How have you seen him take your high school? Man, he's dressed in everything. He's getting all the gems from the other guys in the quarterback room, probably from the other guys that's trained back during the spring practices because our one night is great. Man, air's gonna be a great guy.

5:18:55How cool is that when you see a guy like CJ Strauss come back here? It was a little shocking at first because I decided to play with him and all he did was get the hair about him. So CJ, he's pretty cool out and talked to him a little bit. He said he showed up to tie that as well. There's a bunch of guys from Georgia. What's the team on both sides of the ball? What do you make of that? There's a bunch of guys from Georgia. What are the dogs at? Literally. The whole ball? No. I'm not full of dogs. Who is the dogs? Who's the combos? Like me? Like you maybe really play for me. I mean, game plan was come out of wind. I was a part of that beginning then some other guys came in who could get the job done. Just probably a little bit more better than me. Combos, great experience, love the trip. It was a great bonding experience for the whole team. I had to leave the witty for a minute. That looked cool in vacation. I spent Christmas out there. We'll put some light into half tap patience. I don't think you played. You've been a big guy.

5:19:56Yeah. Because you were a peagly baby. What's in like the weight of your turn? At the same time trying to prove yourself. It's not really too much proof of myself. It's just me getting better on a day-to-day basis. I mean, it's not the first time I've been waiting to play a little bit. Obviously, some guys, first year in high school, played JV. I was one of those guys, played JV. You get better, you have moved up, and the work is so. Is it airing because it's airing? It's airing because it's airing. You've been a little bit more at least. Long time you coming in comes the moon. Well, airing knows the guy. He knows the guy. He knows that a little bit better than me while I was in high school. He didn't show me the road. He didn't show me while I was making the process. Obviously, Caleb now is one of those Georgia guys. Caleb Downs, from Perryman. I mean, he currently brings it every day. I bring it every day. Ohio State, you're going to get the best of the best of every day.

5:20:56So, I love it. Do you have the dream of playing at school? I didn't get to play at school. I didn't get to play at school. I didn't get to play at school. I didn't get to play at school. He is helping the savory food wise. Jacob Another,PLN position. Jessica-Caca reminion. Mike Bohn,let's see what Davis said, Mike. Let's say he heard of Blackillo Florentine's playing. He can pull around and see how different he is. I hate making smartest choices. It's such important things, it's when you go out to play on your off campus. Maybe he had five shoes. I hate to play with him. He keeps up going. I didn't friend him, but he realized... I'm going to take you to the point that Coach Kelly and Coach Day gave me and then I also learned from all the guys you know, we're in debt when they're here. They've heard a lot of football and so I'm just taking their points and then I'm trying to put it out for you. What do you end of the portal after you've been reached out to the people you're from doing and what's that like? I mean, it was a little bit crazy. I was only in for about two days because I had to make quick decision just because of the classes starting in January.

5:22:04So it was definitely a definitely kind of a crazy time but definitely the right decision. Julian was Nick really the primary reason why you left? I would say yes. I came with Coach Sabin. We had great relationships with Green Process and I loved him, loved Coach Sabin and I really wanted to play for him. And you know, just the new staff came and we didn't have the relationship prior to where I got there so I just thought I was a message for him. So what was it about a high-state staff that may be correlated between what you were going into with Alabama that you felt you could transition over here? I felt like there was a really good quarterback development. Coach Day, Craig Boehmeig, Whisperer, you know, the quarterbacks, they've had just the past five years shown with great numbers and I just played on things the right way and I wanted to come this off and speak to Coach Bain because Coach Kelly, you know, making just the line up of him. So what was that? Staff it. Staff it. I had pretty much contact with them and they weren't really a... I didn't know that stuff. Really, one of the things that Coach Day says, if you don't like to have your hands held, you can have time for access.

5:23:07Now you've played up a need a lot of time and you're footballing through it. What is it about you to drive to want that much pressure? I would say, you know, in high school, I had a coach that, you know, he would give me a lot of responsibility and I would, you know, put a lot of responsibility on me and make things hard on me. And so I just, you know, I want to be the best player I can be and take the need with me or do things the right way and just do things the right way. All my love watching Joe Burrow, you know, he makes that adjustment line. He's a really good decision maker. I like just the murder tonight, but I charge his fans and I lost the name play. Some of those bad enough, I'll just, you know, be the decision makers who make things work. I would say I'm a little bit more clever. I'm working on the Michael's side. You know, Coach Day is trying to get me the people. I'm a vocal leader out there with the guys that even on that pressure, you know, try to be a leader for it. I do.

5:24:08That's why it's definitely quite a confidence. That's why you're confident you're going to play. I know a lot of you are. Actually, I think I've only been here once in a few months, I love that. I mean, really good food, good places to be and hang out with friends. I think I've visited maybe Freshmer's off-hand. Yeah, just for the camper and visit just the super-synomies. I know it was only a few days, but being in the out-hand program, especially as big prepared for a ball plant front, what did you take away from that short period of time? Yeah, it was really good with the coach of recent, Coach Savin, they were coach of players hard and I saw the work that takes to get to the playoffs and I'm coming here to see and be able to do what we guys put in the work. Throughout the winter, you know, seeing our older guys all really was putting the work in and showing the athletes. How much from your relationship did you have with Air, obviously? Coming in, he had been committed.

5:25:08You've come in, you've both freshmen. What was it like before and what's your relationship? We didn't have much relationship prior. We measured it with 11. I knew each other a little bit and then come in here, you know, a quarterback room, everyone knows really close. So it's a raw push and try to be better. We're all taking close points from each other trying to get better. Coach Savin, you've tried to make sure you're quite surprised. I'm just expecting you guys to be quite surprised. I would say we were caught by surprise, you know, come back from the game in your little bit high spirits because of the team journey. I don't know, it was kind of hard.