Press Conference (Deion Sanders) Elite Edition September 3

0:00I think you win the big 12 two-part question. When you look at what you've done, Jackson State, first year at Colorado, the accomplishments and the eyes and attention that you've brought, have you taken the moment to sort of sit back and appreciate, I know you've given a lot of love to your players and programs, but have you taken time to appreciate the worth in what you brought part one, part two? You got one at a time, I'm 56. Yeah, you can't do that. One at a time, give me one at a time, all right? First of all, thank you, thank you for just understanding and recognizing those things. I don't have time to sit back and watch what was done because I'm so busy doing what I do. So I don't have time for, you know, even though my arms could reach that back to the pet myself on the back, I ain't got time for it. You don't like it anyway. Everyone's done all I do it because I know y'all ain't gonna do it. So I don't have time for it, but I appreciate it,

1:02and I'm thankful of the calling that God has on my life. I really am, now we go to part two. Part two, with what you brought to the programs in the historic Black Colleges and to Colorado, do you feel an obligation with whom you are to perform at a higher level, or to coach at higher level? Yeah, like I, yes, yes, I'm judged on a different scale. My, my, my, my wins are totally different than your wins. Your wins, you just judge in football. That's why I have to start out and give you education and academics and so forth. I have to give you those things so you understand that's a greater scope. I can't win nine games and we, our GPA suffers. Our GPA can't be high, but we lose another eight games. We, we can't not go and grab high school players and you got a bunch of guys in the portal, out of the portal that's getting incarcerated. My wins are different.

2:02We have to win in every area. That's the way we're judged. I'm cool with that, because we, we, we come a little different. So the expectation is greater, but it's not just football. It's been like, good, oh, my life. I've always had a greater expectation for myself. So the expectation you have for me would never outweigh the expectation I have for myself. Thank you. That was a wonderful question. All right, we'll go to the left side, third row in the middle. Hey, Deon Collins-Willson with the action network over here. One question. What led you to the hiring of Robert Livingston come from the city, man? Oh my God. They test the opportunity. I mean, we needed the defensive coordinator and I'm a pro, man. And that's nothing against the college coaches because we have some phenomenal college coaches, especially in this conference. But I'm a pro. So I like the relationships in the thought process of a pro. And Coach Livingston was, Livingston was recommended to me by a few pros

3:04that I'm well familiar with in our trust. My ex-member being one of them. And his interview process and his consistency and his thought process and his relatability just put place him well above the other applicants. I'm happy I made the decision. And when we look back on it, first of all, I pray to God that I can keep him. Because I feel like we're going to kick butt, we're going to win. And he's going to be a head coach and college or pros or whatever he endeavors because he's that good. So I'm thankful that I'm happy for him, but he is awesome. When I tell you awesome, he is totally awesome. OK, we'll go over here to the right side in the first row. We got another guy on the side of the ball named Pat Sharma. That's pretty darn good as well. I mean, really good. And his compatibility and relationship with Shador is amazing in what they plan on doing this season. I can't wait to see it myself, is there?

4:04Coach Prime, my name is Arnie Beesmore with Vegas Sports today. I want to officially welcome you to our amazing CD of Lost Vegas. Thank you. Now, my question is, I don't gamble though. So you ain't getting that out of me. All right. OK. With respect to legacy and impact, what legacy and or impact do you hope to have on the world of sports as a player and or as a coach? Both, really, I don't care. Like how you see me, how you look at me. I'm more apt to understand how I see me and how I look at me and how God sees me and how he looks at me. So really, I don't care how you see me. It's never going to be enough. Nothing I do is ever going to be enough. So I'm cool with that. I understand that that is life and that's how life is going to be. But I plan on being a tremendous blessing to as many people that I can bless, especially those probably 120 young men that put on this CU helmet and go out there and to play for

5:04our school and our program. So the sum and all up, man, I just want to be known as a great dad. I think I got three sons here today. And I just want to be a great dad to them. That's it. Thank you, my man. I appreciate you. All right. We'll see in the right side. We'll go about halfway back on the aisle. Coach Domizzo, WDY in Fargo, North Dakota. You're opening up with North Dakota State, our known Gaulty S killer. Tell me what you know about the bison. They're good. They're really darn good. And I'm mad at Rick right now, if I put them on the schedule, open up with them. Like can you give me a layup or something? Like those guys are wonderful. Their staff has always been amongst the best. Many people have matriculated from that staff to go to higher levels. Those kids play their butts off. They play tough. They don't make many mistakes. They're accustomed to winning. They don't give a darn about being at home on a roll that does not phase them whatsoever. We just can't wait to see it.

6:06I know it's a national television game. I believe it's a Thursday night game. Hopefully not too late. But we can't wait to see them. It's going to be a phenomenal game, phenomenal matchup. But that program is second to none. All right, we'll go to the left side, sixth throw on the far left side. Stuart Mandel from the athletic, going into your two, what are some of the things that gave you confidence that this season can end a lot better than boarding? When I see the offensive line and the way they train, the way they work, the way to go about their job. When I see the defensive line coaches and the way they're on their kids and the way they're demanding excellence and the way these young men are working and the athletes that they are and the bodies that they have and they've developed right now. When I see the receiving core, staying out the practice to work with the quarterback, coming over quarterbacks, coming over there on off days to work with one another.

7:09When I see the running backs doing the same, led by a former walk on Charlie Alford Doll. When I see the special teams, Mark Vesett is here right now, I think he's a Dern Pro and model that don't miss and Jayce Philly and those guys that they can't wait to their time. They understand special teams mean that we're special. When I see those, the secondary shoot, they get out of bed, want to play man to man coverage. I love it. I'm going to wait to hit somebody. Cam Silman. So many of the guys, the change made from safety to linebacker would Trevor, I mean. I really think this young man is going to be the next briner, Erlecker. I think he's going to make that transition from safety to lineback and be dominated. I just see the won't and the fire and desire from our young men and I can't wait to you get an opportunity to see it as well. So I'm very optimistic on what we have on that plate this year.

8:12All right, we'll go to the right side, third row right in the middle. Phillip Dukes, the five star flicks on on three coach Sanders. Not though. As the father of three Division one football players, what did you learn during their process as a parent that's helped you formulate your recruiters style as a head coach? Great question. Next and foremost, I've set in all seats, the parent seat being recruited as the kid, now being the coach, that helps me tremendously when I'm recruiting, when I'm understanding what the parent is thinking, what the kid is thinking, now what the coach desires to want to know. It's been a tremendous asset for me to understand those facets of this new recruiting age that is impacted tremendously by NILs and collectors. So I love it.

9:15Sometimes I don't like it, but I love it and I love that these kids are being compensated somewhat for what they bring to the table. I don't want them to put the bag before the game because if you have the game, the bag is going to come, I want them to understand that. But I just don't want to take away from the purity of this wonderful game that we have. College football is phenomenal, man. This conference is phenomenal. Look at what we are. You got to be kidding me. I'm a brother from Fort Maas, Florida. And I'm sitting up here in the Dern Inzo and in Las Vegas talking to the whole Dern country about a childish game that I play when I was a shouting. Don't you understand how powerful and how wonderful it is and I'm so darn thankful to be here. So I try to relate that to all our young men. This is a moment, man. You better maximize it. And let's go get it. But thank you. It's a wonderful question. All right. We'll send the right side. We'll go halfway back. And the front row. And if you have this right, I got you today, right?

10:17Okay. All right. We'll go back halfway back on the right side on the center aisle. Coach Prime, Alex Blackburn, College football dogs. With all the media attention surrounding your program, how do you stay focused on the main goal, which is winning games? How do you keep yourself and your team focused? Well, you keep the main thing, the main thing. The main thing never should transfer itself. Winning is what we're here for. As far as the focus and intention, I think every since I stepped into Florida state in 85 has been like that for me. This ain't new to me. I'm not new to this. Like we say in the hood, I'm true to this. So this is new to some of you all. And you want us to change. We're not going to change. We're going to try to do things being smart, tough, fast, disciplined with character. That's what we're relating to all our young men. But the cameras and the lights, I think I haven't seen one kid here today that said he didn't like that.

11:18He may not like the process, but he likes the the the package that you wrap him up in and you put him out there. All these kids are excited about the EA sports game, right? Because they're scores and levels, they want attention. They want affection, they want love, they want adoration, adulation, I'm sorry. Yeah, we give you that. But you got to work first so you can understand the consistency there of. It's going to take you to where you want to go every time I'm and dad. If that's what you please. I will stay over here on the right side. Third row right in the middle. Hi coach. How you doing? Good, how are you? I know you. Nikki Edwards, you sports reporter. We talked during spring and throughout last season, the importance on stopping the run. Yeah. You get a guy like BJ Green and your defensive line. How is he going to be a leader in achieving that goal? BJ Green is already a leader. Do you know that BJ Green played for me when he was five through seven years old with truth

12:19and Dallas and well South Dallas? So he's been a part of my life a long time and they raised him right at Arizona State and for him to come over now. It's phenomenal. His work ethic, the way he approaches and attacks the game, it's phenomenal. His want, his desire, his will. I just got to finish joining the interview and they say, well, you have two young men that projected probably to be the top five picks. I said, yeah, but we won't for in the first round. And the only way that's going to happen is we win and they are dominant. And I think BJ Green could be one of those guys. And I think he will be one of those guys because he wants it that much. Shane, I don't deal. Amari McNeil. I'm just the name of a few and Juan is to Feeck, Chedosi, T.C. That's my dog from Arkansas. I mean, we have some guys inside there that can flat out do it outside.

13:20We have some guys that can go get the quarterback as well. We just want to be in the position to allow them to be the best they can be. And that's one thing that Coach Livingston is doing well. He's not coming in trying to remake everything and reinvent the wheel. He's like, let's find out what these guys can do well and let them do what they do. And that's what we're going to do. That's the formula. I've told you guys, that's what we do. That's how we come in. All right, final question far left side about a question. I'm just having a good time. Now you got to go right out of time. We got a shot. Clark Joy, did they give you a shot? Clark. How are you doing, coach? How are you doing? On me, our con TG sports here, I have a quick question regarding building a winning culture. Yeah. What does that mean? What does a winning culture mean? I want to know what that means because you got to be a winner to understand what that winning culture means. Everybody want to know about the culture, the culture. What is culture? To me, culture is day in day out putting in the work.

14:21Lifestyle. Lifestyle. Yeah. Yeah. So, progressing in that general area right there, as far as the winning culture side, last year you guys started off strong. You did kind of fills it out a little bit towards the end of the year. But I remember you still talking about continuing to build that winning culture day in day out. So, you guys that you brought in this year are going to be able to help you build those gaps. I don't talk about culture that much, so that wasn't me. But I do talk about the consistency there of the goal and being consistent in whatever you do. So, if you have a team that's got to be a little more physically tough, you got to develop that. If you got mentally tough, strategically satisfying, and from the coach's staff's point of view, you got to understand that. But culture, everybody's own this word, this word, and I don't understand this word one bit. And somebody got to help me understand what that word culture means.

15:23An environment, understanding of winning, you want that. I feel like I'm a winner. I know I'm a winner. So whatever I display, however I go about my job, my work, my business, my personal life, that's of a winner. That's all I know. Anything else but that. So in due time and due process, we're going to reach that goal because we're going to get there because I know I'm going to get there. And I'm not going by myself. Is that it? I don't do it. Coach, thank you for your time. Wow. God bless you. I'm going to get to the back of your head.

16:24We want to get Jeremiah and Carnell and Brandon and Rebecca. Yes, that's my mindset. In practice the whole day, I want those boys to get me everything that they have. So I go in and Saturday and it's going to be easy for me and I'll be prepared. What have you seen the growth of the young winners? Obviously we saw that it's not a Jeremiah last year. They're Jamaix, sorry, but Calvin and some of the errands and the young guys. How have you seen them come along? And Scott has gotten completely better from his brain. I completely better. Is that just time in the program? I'm just getting used to the speed of college Shippup, I would say. What about Calvin? He was obviously here last year. He was. Calvin has gotten a lot better. I would say that he's gotten a lot smarter. And then he also write GB. Go ahead. I think he's there about Calvin's intelligence, you know, where he's grown. Where specifically is it? The film room. And I pick it up. You know, the playbook. Where have you seen that?

17:24The rain up a grab. I would say Calvin has gotten smarter just like his game knowledge, like expecting like a different kind of routes and stuff like that. What did everything start to click for him? The last year was it in the soft sea? When did you feel this comfortable? I would say it in the spring. I started to get a lot more comfortable in our defense. We saw you break up the past yesterday with the German name. I'm sorry if you asked, but it's earlier. What is like going up against him to you? It seems like you enjoy it. Yeah, I love it. He's tough. I like going against him a lot. He's really good. What have you improved in your game just from that, for example? I mean, this is one of one matchups. This preseason or whatever. You know how ball he hoot this game. Yeah. So Jeremy, he forces me to play the ball. If you don't play the ball against him, he'll go get it. Yeah. Yeah. And you, Dave, send it. How would you describe this defense now compared to this time a year ago, from the standpoint of a confidence factor? You don't mean that you guys feel on the field? How would you describe it?

18:26It's different about it, I guess. I feel like everybody is a lot more smart than you are. Everybody's like, I would just say that we're going to just smarter. Yeah. When you look up and layton ran some decided to come back and Caleb down, transferred in. What did you feel about it? Did it just grow stronger in that one week span, two weeks span? You're still on up saying? I feel like. No one knows guys have played at that level. The level those guys have played at? Yeah. I would say that. The down's coming in. The way he say he was coming back, Zer says he was coming back, but just so light. That would be happy to be the daddy. Thanks, man. Of course. Say it again, we're looking for help. You like something, huh? It was a blown coverage, all of both of them. So we just got to be better. That was the biggest thing. When you say that, you can put it on me. I mean, are you covered for other people when you say that?

19:28I just know I could be better at whatever fast it is. I could just be better to a boy, a situation like that from happening. So I was all found out in the future and just got to be better. Got to be better to a boy, just leaving people wide open and able to make a play. So you decided with you and Juan on those touchdowns. So it was something different you were trying or something that made that communication a problem. All of a sudden for you guys or was it something they were doing? No, it was just, I don't even know. It was just one of the times I got to go back and watch a film and just communicate. I said, just got to be better and just can't have that out there on game day. Playing guys are run free. Is there anything unexpected? They were doing some team work a couple times even. It's like a new offensive system. Were there any surprises? Yeah, it wasn't really no surprises. They're a good team.

20:29A lot of stuff that hurt us was self inflicted. I feel like we just got to be better on art and clean up our side to be better. So they're great offense, great team. But once we clean our own stuff up, that thing would be good. So it keeps you pushing in the second half of the long side of the game and the second two and set and start. Keep you going. I mean, I love playing this game of football. Just coming out here with my guys every day, I enjoy coming to work with them and playing with them every day. And just trying to find ways to get a win each and every week. That's the main goal, trying to find a way to get a win and just enjoying playing a game of football. We're worried all about wasting the air. I don't consider wasting a year of my prime. I'm trying to get the best I can for this team and the city and whatever happens happens. That's the biggest thing. But I don't know if it's been wasted. Just to be clear, what you were diagnosed for the concussion from the last game?

21:29I was in the protocol, but I feel great. I'm out the protocol. But yeah, I'm good. I've gotten nothing to do with mistakes out there today. I'm saying to get a good concussion. I'm not having to do with the concussions. I just got to be better on my end and make sure we all in the same call. And we're all we're supposed to be. So that's all me. Then what do you think is the most common case you use is it more so like getting it from a little bot? What's the use of the bot? What do you guys think? It's more about the second or the second. Oh yeah, I mean all that stuff plays a factor. So we got to get the call from the green dot and just spread the call around and just make sure we all in the same page and execute all the assignment. So considering you guys are better in defense, this isn't new to you guys. It's just how frustrating you are to have these communication breakdowns that ultimately end up costing you guys in a pretty picking one. Yeah, it is frustrating because we better than that. I mean this is probably one of the first times that we even have blown coverage is really all year.

22:33But we know we could get a fix and we know we could be a better defense and better team out there and we definitely go work to get a fix though. You guys always talk about rushing coverage. For a lot of the first half, it seemed like it was either a sack or they were completing a chunk in the past play. Does that add to the frustration when you are getting that sack production from your front that you know that's happening in the back end? Yeah, like I said, we got to clean it up and we all get to figure it out and playing it up and be better and work together. The rushing coverage work, you feel like it's almost like a wasting performance by the past rushers, the files with three sacks, six sacks and the first half. Is that kind of a sourman? Yeah, it's sour coming because the main goal is to get the win. Definitely he had a great personal performance but it's definitely a sour feeling when I'm not able to pull the win out. I know when we talked to you, last concussion you had in August at the end of the year. You worry about you just because of the number and you didn't seem to have any added concern.

23:36I guess after this week or you still feel that way and everything like your helmet and your future and all that. I feel great. I feel great. Glad to be a part of this team and just don't want to come to help us get a win. That's the main goal. So as long as I'm not if you were asked this before but what's your mindset, obviously 277 is not where you want to be. You have the body, you're coming off a moss. Where's that mindset going into this week and you're supposed to be asked? Yeah, definitely still going into the by-week and get some rest and get away for a little bit. But just to come back, refocus and try to help flip this season around and get a win. Come next game. There's been a lot of stuff at the trade deadline coming up on Tuesday. Some of it centered around your teammates at the areas. Can you just speak to what he means to you guys as a teammate here? As a derriest, there's an amazing teammate for our team and captain on his team, a leader on his team and a playmaker out there on the field. Love happens at the areas on the field with me. That was one of my favorite additions to the team when he came on.

24:39I say he's a great player and a great guy in the locker room and I definitely appreciate the derriest. The player he is and the guy he is. Thanks. Thank you. A lot. And I'm excited, like I said, to be able to play in space, be able to play in open holes and a defense and make plays after the catch. Chris, is it a receiver like when you make a catch and you're trying to make the determination of like you don't work to get some yack or not having a necessary hit? How do you make that calculation like when it's worth it when it's not? Just all feel really. Just seeing. We can really see a pre-snap from the coverage post-snaps here with what they do with the defense does. You can really feel the defenders around you. Like I said, if you can see three or four people around you can really do too much. Like I said, a lot of more space with his offense, a lot more holes and a defense that you're trying to get the playmegers into. So I'm excited to be able to work with that.

25:40You can't really do it as much in practice, you know you're not going to get hit but more preseason and first couple games I'm excited to see see what that looks like. I think of the sheets. I'm excited, man. Like I said, from the jump, he's a special player. You don't really get that so many players like him that's so quick, so fast, at least speed and I ain't going to run routes too. I'm excited to see what he does in the future but I feel like that's the least they can do for him this year. How do you think he would get me out of the way for another? It's just speed, man. You can't teach speed at all. Just having us on opposite sides, even to play on both sides. It's just speed down the field. You can run 15, 20 yards and breakers out breakers. And like I said, you're going to have to play two safes most of the time or you can run the ball, you can get underneath the routes. It's going to be a great compliment to the offense, so I'm excited. Chris, you said you hope this new offensive playmegers in the position to make plays. What about you specifically? What's an area where you think you'll have more opportunity than this year day?

26:46It's a lot of areas that you can see to look at, to improve my game. But yards have the chances of when I'm looking forward to just more opportunities with that, more space. Just to showcase my speed and my ability with the ball. So I'm excited to do that this year. Some that I really showcase the first two years, so I'm excited to be with the quick game element of it. Just getting the ball on your hands. Yeah, quick game, play action, more over the middle routes. There's a lot of different things that you can say that this guy's going to help that, but like I said, I'm excited. How would you describe the chemistry between you and Eric? We're getting way better, man. I mean, it was our first year last year, so it was kind of up and down, but that's what it comes with the game of football. So we worked a lot this off season, OTAs, which was really good. And we got up to a good start these first two days of camp, getting extra working.

27:47But that's going to come with time. So I'm not worried about that at all. We both competitors, we both want to be the best. We got to do something to be good. Where do you kind of notice that difference? Just like feel on the route? What do you kind of notice now that it's year two, but it's more natural? What do you mean? So Eric, are you when you're just going to start your work? Where do you kind of know? It's just like, it's more than that, man. It's in a fail. Everybody's good. So we just got to know what each other is thinking, precinct, post-knap, cover cheese, where the ball's going to go. Just reads what read I am and in progression. And everything goes along with that. Just being on the same page, being, like I said, chemistry is built with time. Just little stuff like that that turns into big things is going to be huge. You caught one from Spencer Routland at A2, what are your early impressions from? It's real talented. That's the first thing I've seen from him. His arm titles out the charts. He's a real natural feel out there.

28:47He's going to be real good. I want to see him in action, but from my first impression. He's going to be a real good player. It's going back to the sheet that you talked about all the different stuff you should do. You think there's still a lot more there for him? Oh, yeah. He hasn't really, I think this is the first year of being receiver two or really receiver. In my opinion, we both are receiver one. So I just be able to move around, run real routes. Feel like it's going to be a huge advantage for the same. It's a special player and I can't wait to see him ball. I can't wait to see him get more opportunities. You can see what he can do. By run real routes, he can get opportunities and all the run. Yeah, just getting more, he hadn't really played too many plays in the first few years. He gets thrown in there when he's getting the ball or when he's a decoy or something like that. But he's actually being involved in the offense. He's always been in, even on run plays.

29:47I feel like he's going to be a huge advantage for him to get a feel for the game and be more natural out there. How hard is a receiver like that to shed kind of a, you know, think of him as a deep threat label and then so people just think of him as a deep threat. But we can do more. How hard is it to kind of shed that label or that perception like that? I mean, that's what life everybody is trying to label somebody as one thing or two things. I feel like you can showcase, I mean, that's not really who we are, you know what I'm saying. As he gets more opportunities as you can see, you can see he can do more and more. That's what anybody on the team. I'm excited, like I said, for his huge opportunity is going to get this year. It's going to be a big one for the Saints. Does this scheme ask for more blocking from the receivers as they're more responsibility? Oh yeah, for sure. I mean, that's what I told you too. We both have to block. And I know we're not the biggest guys or the strongest, but like I said, we want to be on the field. We got to be on the field for the play action plays, all those things.

30:48So we both got to go block D line, the block linebackers, but that's what coming football. So we both got to take that next step in our game. Is that somewhere there's like a payoff? Like you guys know you've got a lot of front play action next time. Oh yeah, so yeah, it's going to be a huge payoff. Like I said, most of our office is based on play action, all the in-breakers, all the yards at the catch up play. So we got to go in there and block. And like I said, take that next step and be able to be great for our team. Like Dan here? Oh yeah, so. I feel the weather out here, man. That's what I'm used to not using the war and then out there trying to catch my breath. It's a great opportunity for us. Are you going to chance to see family or friends at all? So this is their football friend here? Not yet, but they don't come out or something. Appreciate you all enough. Thank you very much. I didn't have to make sure other guys would feel some type of way when they came in here because hump brought that.

31:48I've been out of the hump not here, but I saw when you did for the room, I want to be that guy to make sure I was an amputable practice. Everybody's, we're taking a big team one period. It's a low day or something. It's a disadvantage, but I want to make it feel like homecoming. You're like, yeah, Paris, the trip. I want to bring that because that's what we did to each other. We would have each other up to do something to walk. We're flit. So I want to do that. I want to bring that energy. I want to make bring more guys. You also do that. I want to do that from day one. I kind of have. I want to do that from day one. I want to talk to them. Obviously it's the time I spend the obviously of the four OTA started. Just being in my self-just thinking about what the room needs. Because I know I knew who will as one of the leaders. My offense is that we need a guy like that.

32:48We should have the OIs picked up. We're ready to go every day. I was held accountable for little things. I'm having a practice of people aren't saying anything. And how I believe maybe different than somebody else may believe. I like to practice at least. I could be a positivity. But the energy I would be on just to hide the beyond. So I was kind of on the goal of living my whole life. I felt like I was in a captain in high school. I was in a captain in college. But I want to make a joke. I feel like I'm not going to be a captain. But that would be awesome. But it happens. Not either way. I want to assume a role as a captain from the perspective of guys. I want to give you a word and get back to that.

33:48I can't say that. I guess the biggest thing is that I felt like I used to in the past. But it didn't take just the first LTAs. It took training left and right. Once this season ended because I know what was going to be the same. So it took a lot of reps. I just want to give back to feeling like myself for what they want to do. And then that whole first week. But now like today specifically just changing some small things with my feet. I've been talking about the long coach. I've been doing my feet to get to sell my traditional handle that I love to sit on. I thought I felt great already. I felt even better. I felt so more and now I'm getting my feet back and how I like the right side and on the left side. So I'm anxiety. I mean obviously I feel like in the league whether I left the right or still going against premier guys.

34:50Obviously they're high expectations for the left and right tackle. But definitely like the level of energy and like the expectation definitely take the human side. I can like the blind side. That's the as the tackle world. So yeah I would say in terms of communication as far as this even outside of the facility. Just stuff like that like really creating that tackle quarterback. Bonnie the more off the field I think has been something that's even cool. I got the text one day. I was like, you know, I've been training both. I asked after the season they're like honestly, you know, we'll talk to you. So for the season I just got a text one. I had this with the free agency. So I was like, you know what? I had a whole season right tackle. So if I get the word I'm going I'm standing right tackle. I did what I did before I'm built on that.

35:51But I saw something. I was trying to let tackle now. As if I'm going to be left tackle. And I'd rather do that than train all the right time with the call. I didn't want to switch my feet. You know what I mean? So I'm like let me just prepare an advance. I was like, yeah it was gone. I think occasionally on third down there would be a lot of twists. I was just not like it's automatic. And I think that was my mindset for like the first half of the season. Like I didn't have to go into the game with some pros. I kind of figured like, okay. This is the type of rush. I'm going to get like this is how this guy usually rushes. If I get the vibe this is how the ends like the rush you know tackles that. First year guys we got the premium patch on already know what it was going to be. Already know what we every stunt. And honestly just knowing that's kind of an advantage to so you're not you're not you're not oh they brought the twist on my side. It was never air goblet. Well they come out the my side three plays in a row. Two minutes.

36:51I knew that. You know what I mean. I'm watching more everybody else and you really really go out there occasionally. Third down. I was like, you know what I mean. He's going to take me. You know what I mean. So that's kind of it's also kind of an original way. But it's also exciting. I'm going to get the hardest look. You know those are real real reps. You know the things. Really out on our way to kind of process. I was like, when I told me. Let me know about I'm just going to train it. I was training all left. So TAs I guess if I didn't hear anything about TAs I came in like. So you know what I mean. Because just like I'm cool training both continue. I would have been cool training both continually. But I feel like anybody any position will feel like okay. Like you want as soon as possible. You can give your feet kind of settled in your hips settled in your hands. So then certain kind of what would have been harder to

37:53work both very good to you. No. No. But they're definitely but in terms of the development. It's definitely a lot faster to stay on all one side. But I think having that the weeks that we had to transition with seasons over. And like respond. You know. Good. I'm trying to get up with it. I think week things at a time right now. But when it comes back I'm going to show them the only house. I just got a house not too far from. So I told them I got that house like I got a yellow side. DJ. You know what I mean. So yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Little. Yeah. It was a feeling all that new this around you sort of the opposite last year. You were the new guy. And then I just. It just pushes you into a new role. Because you're kind of the leader of the group now. And it's a blessing to be in that position and.

38:53Be able to have guys looking up to you asking questions. And it's a great feeling to be a part of to know that. I mean, I can help develop younger guys that had the opportunity to play this year next year. So it's a song to be in the position that I'm in. What you need to develop a act for playing with. The other safety. You just keep it out there. Coming in. Everybody's doing that. That's. Um, I felt like that's communication that comes a tie. Yeah, we got. I used to play with late last year. So that was a blessing to have him here and to have a year with him. But now, yeah, we got to learn to play with new people and. Continue to grow as a defense and have new people in different positions. Can't lose culture. Who's caught your eye in that secondary? Is it kind of making a move this spring? I think everybody's done a really good job. I like I'd like the lot with. Uh, Leo Roker is doing done. He's uh, stepped up a lot and. Got a lot of improvements that I love to see. Uh, J. Let him the league had played extremely well. So just love to watch those two guys continue to compete and continue to grow.

39:57Um. And then outside those guys compete every day. Miles Lockhart just got a strike off and he's been playing really well. So proud of him and what he's been doing. But those are the people that I would just devincentio has looked like. What you would call a five star. I mean, when he's out there and stuff, wait, wait. You know, the main guy comes in with a little bit of target on his back to a certain extent. But living up to a billing. How has he, how has he lived up to it? I guess at the end of the day, even when I got to college, it really doesn't matter about your stars. You walk in and you're at the same type of. Statchers everybody else. So it doesn't really matter in terms of how would you. Walk in here with. He's done extremely well. He's learned a lot. He's improved a lot from day one to now. So it's been great to watch him develop and watch him get better. And he's made some exceptional plays and I hope to continue to see that. I do feel like Macriere is helping you grow as a player. What's kind of your relationship? How has that kind of developed over the time that you've been here with? Um, very football intelligent, very like football.

40:58First mindset. And I respect that as a person just to be able to go and have somebody with the same mindset as me. Coach Walton has been really good help to me. And as I'm helping me a lot on and off the field here. So I respect him for that. But Coach G is, he's pushed me to increase and learn more football every day in our respect. Coach Mac, do you always want to be in your process? Not when you guys, no, not before you got hired. What about this new coordinator, baby, brings a new idea of stuff? How could you change your role or revolve? Um, I mean, just being in new positions, the ability to play multiple positions in the secondary, playing Don and stuff like that. Being put in different positions that I wasn't maybe put in last year to have different things on the field. I think that's a great thing. Always good to have versatility as I said and something I promise I'll have a look forward to.

42:00Yeah, coach, are you feeling good while training? You got the obviously a potential to be in you, but you can get more opportunities with your players this year? That's a good day and coach hard to answer. I can't really think about that. But if I get the chance to go back there, it'll be on and I'll try to pick another play. It's a like walking every day. It's a nice thing to do as you talk to it. It has been kind of weird to walk in here and see all the different pictures that they put up. Even the three from the play also. It's been great and then they have different pictures inside and everything. It's been good. It's been eye catching where you walk by it like they just accomplished that. But it's a great situation to be in. You might have been asked to tell you guys a couple of you kind of wanted something to say and have taken that with the issue because you haven't achieved anything yet. You have one of the leaders that kind of feel about that. I mean, I think that's, you have to reset at some point. And I think at some point we had like, in the weight room, we had like, natural shape or stuff up there. And it was like, I mean, the new guys that walk in here, we haven't earned anything.

43:04We as the new 2025, 26 season, we haven't earned anything. So we can't really take credit for anything that is up on the banner. So we can't take credit for winning anything at this point. We have to compete every day with the mindset of we have to get better to be able to put ourselves in position to be how the opportunity to get to that point. Yeah, what is the lesson learned from an accomplishment like that, Caleb, that you do carry forward? I mean, the lesson learned is you have to continue to work. Last year, every day we continue to stack bricks like he said and continue to get better every day. And I think that's why we came out to be where we were. We can't just think about that from the moment that you get here in January and you start lifting in there. You have to continually push to be exceptional every day. And it's not really helping if you're just looking at stuff from the last year, every day. And you get the move passed and you get to keep going. But I think the spring has been good for that because it's been able to be like, okay, we are turning the new leaf. We have different people in here, new faces and everything.

44:04And there's different people on the field and they got to, we got to make plays with who we are. Coast taste is you've been limited from participation standpoint to a certain extent, right? I was asked you want to go back to the team, but what have you noticed about this team from a work standpoint of the catches your eye? Very competitive, I'll say. People are trying to compete and push themselves every day. And it gets it gets chippy sometimes. That's that's always a good thing, especially on the defense to have people that are willing to go there, willing to get to that edge and willing to be physical. I really like to see that, I'd love to see it. And I mean, I think we just need to continue to be more disciplined, continue to work on our skills and everything like that. Continue to strive to be better. You're good. Do you see your last two players attacking on? I mean, that's not what my eyes are. They ask, I'll do it for sure. That's not what my eyes are. I think that has so much turnover.

45:04You guys step into the big ones. How big is it to have a guy like Sonny and how much have you been seeing him grow as a leader through his last two or three months? Oh, it's been an honor to see just because we've had conversations about it and everything. About how both of us are going to have to step into bigger roles and everything like that. But to see where we had those conversations to where we're at now, it's just an honor to see the growth that he's been a part of. And a proud of him and he's going to continue to get better. Continue to be the person that he's supposed to be. If they need me to do run support, I'll do run support. And it's really what Caleb does, what we do and Nathan. It just goes back to the Coach G's preparation and everyone's preparation to give us more flexibility and doesn't matter who's in those positions. And we can all play every position whether it's covering somebody or running and tackling. Did you feel like that was the case before the Oregon game? You're saying what I'm saying? Is it something that's been added?

46:04It just, you know, rely on a little bit more. Go ahead. Yeah, it did. I've probably been a Braska game, Megan and more safety reps. And we had a five week to prepare. So I really learned to play book a lot more. Even though I knew the playbook, I learned a lot more. Mounting like in debt, you know, so really just after the Oregon game, it helped me a lot to go back to safety. I do it everywhere. You guys had a lot of issues of giving up big plays in the passing game of the first game against Oregon. What do you feel you guys need to do better this time around to make sure that doesn't happen? Just the same same mindset. We got to challenge these receivers. You know, every dog has their day. Maybe some people didn't have their day that game, but we'll look out there and hopefully change the narrative. And we still play with the same confidence, same technique and, yeah. Bill Rebellion, what's the best? And Denzel obviously had a tough game and that one.

47:04What have you seen from him and how he's responded? Do you get a sense of from him? How he's for this rematch? Oh, yeah, he's super stoked for this rematch. His preparation has been very good. He's always been preparing, you know, it didn't go the way he wanted to go that game. But he just always had his confidence and we're going to see a big game out of him this week. And, you know, I know you guys wanted to play them in anapolis, but the fact that you get to play them at the Rose Bowl, I mean, get a second chance and people have said he don't get that very often. How determined are you guys to take advantage of it? We're super, super determined. We watched film. I mean, we've lost a lot of film. The first time we played them, now we've got another six games that they played up film to watch. And it's just they've grown a lot as a team, same as us. We've grown a lot. We're not the same team. We were when we played them week one or weeks six or whatever. But now we're out there and going to play fast, physical and everything like that. All right, Jordan, we're going to jump to the zoom question here from Joey Kaufman.

48:06Columbus, this back. Oh, my bad. Not too Joey. Cameron T. Robinson, the athletic. Hey, Jordan, you've moved around a lot in the second day in your career. And now kind of getting some many more safety reps. What is it like at this point when Walt or Coach Mills comes to you and asks you to do something else? And just how much can you lean on the experiences you've had moving around when you're trying to learn something new in the middle of the season? It means a lot. We always talk about this is if it's being on selfish. Whether that's making plays or not making plays or doing your job so another person can make plays. That's kind of what we pride ourselves on. And it's just fun. Me moving around different positions. I'm always up for a new challenge. And a lot of people in the country can't do that. I just hold myself to that standard where I can play any position and excel at it. Okay, if anybody else needs a question, let me know. But otherwise we're going to go to Austin more of the podcast.

49:07Jordan, when you were talking about watching film, Oregon, which one do you think is more valuable to you watching that against yourself? Seven games ago, even if you've changed or the ensuing six games for Oregon, which one do you put more stock in? Kind of both. For me, I kind of watch what I did. Things I did well. Things I didn't do too well against them. And their team is changing. That life, their scheme has changed. Some players have been out those stretch of games. So I really watched the past game we played. And I know they're going to go back to some of the stuff that they liked, of course. And different games like Penn State, maybe Illinois, they run a lot of men. So just watching, watching stuff like that. Every game matters. So yeah. Jordan, thank you very much. Thank you. Being over here, just what do you how did all you feel, all of that kind of helped mold you into who you are now? Yeah, definitely, definitely, maybe like tough and not afraid of new change. And just willing to adapt to my environment.

50:09What was it like for you coming in here as a freshman and getting to see if it's team go win an national championship for those first few weeks here? Definitely was a high motivated, you know? It wasn't really my team though. So I didn't really get it. So that makes it like push me like that once, when it's my turn. I got put in the word, I wanted the same position, but with a ring on my finger. What did you learn from those guys just about what you need to do to have a chance to go accomplish what they did? So you've got to, don't let the past affect you like, and just, yeah, I remember this. You got to be relentless, you got to put it in the work. It's not easy at all by any means. It's got to be hard, but you have to do everything you do. What do you view as like the best attributes of your game that you're going to bring to this team? I would just say my size, my speed, I can take the top off the defense, and I can play tough and physical. It's about that. Last year, when you think back to the whole report last year, what has the last kind of year been like for you?

51:15I got from the player, it was kind of going through the process too. I was definitely changing my mind because I was always on my sophomore year, I was hurt, and I got hurt during track. I was able to, I was a highly excluded athlete, and this time last year, when my equipment really picked up, and it's been crazy, like, must have another, like, he was just leaving me in my corner, my coach's everything. I just give it the motivation to go. That's a big good. Before I even got a hostage offered, and before I even knew who he was, I actually threw it with them a couple of times in both. Bella Fodd, she was trot-fade, yeah, I was working with, I knew it was at head coach, and he invited me to come and run routes,

52:18and I actually ran routes for Tavis right then. If we was exactly headed like two, we first came to New York. We had a lot more, we got together, I was the freshman class, and he's growing, he's working on everything. He's definitely got nice on. This cornerback for two years, I think, is your great talent, how has that kind of helped you with all of your freshman? The cornerback? The cornerback. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it definitely challenged it, and you say, as I always say, I wish I could be dying, and they make it hard for you. And when you play this high level competition practice, you go on a game, like, twice as easy as you do the practice, and he's really skills on stuff. Is there been a moment in question? I think it's kind of like a moment first, I realized. Oh wow, these guys are really good at this. Yeah, just like, I just first, like, on high school, I just take some reps and I've seen it just because, yeah, I just had speed, and we catch the abilities, like, face separation.

53:28And I come to college, and explore everybody's fast, everybody's big, so you have fun, new ways to get open, just really got to push yourself through higher high-cut. Now I was, but I just got more, more older minded than I was. How do you say I should play out over some of the examples of the end-time? I say, just coming in, trying to be the first guy to come in, like, I'm trying to come in before the older guy, you getting in here, that's hard because they don't make her really. So really just sticking with them, going on the right with them, and trying to be them at the thing they're doing earlier to me. Where do you feel like you've grown the most from year one to year two? I would say, learning a game more, like learning concepts, and just knowing what the office is going to do before they do it. I feel different being out there with spring than it was when it was coming earlier. And that's definitely like, everything more slower, like, everything more slow to my fresh air. Like, my high school defense all we read was this man, so, like, all this was new to me, especially with Cognitive defense.

54:29And this year, like, everything's low now. How are some different features of the defense? I'll say I just simplify more. It's more simplified, and I'm going to try to get a lot more guys. Just see where it's pretty new still. We still learning and working through it, but they're just trying to get the basics and figure out what guys are good at. What's guys like Jeremiah and Rack? Is that sort of stuff on with the field of real games? You get any other than Rack, so you get into that a little bit? Yeah, it's all the guys. Jeremiah, Carton, Aero, Brandon, Autumn, I feel like in the game, it's definitely, I definitely do feel like it's easier. I feel like we got the best with here in the country. I'm competitive, I think. I take you, I think, a lot of you. I mean, I know, like, to talk a lot. What's the like in the room? It's very competitive. We all have to be together, we all have to be together. I'm so glad you're being there. I'm going to come and come and take y'all's fuck. Might come and take y'all's seats. They blame me, not even I go on, let me do that, so it's all right. You're talking about that?

55:30Yeah, so... Devin Sanchez is kind of the same role that you were last time. He's a big time five star recruit. What do you see in a Devin Sanchez? He's very competitive. Very competitive. He got how about an energy? He'd be talking to the last player on the whole room, kind of like, just come together. We all got the same energy, so. But he definitely put a lot of energy in. Yeah, that's it for that. What did you learn from the time it was last year? Really had to just approach the game. Take a time, watch him work for him. Really, they helped me slow things down. They helped me break things down and know what they're spending on sharing. When you did play the actual game. I feel like I did good. I could pretty good, man. And what could you do about that? I played one play, I think it was against C&C. It was played, I could've just made a bit in the area more good. Listen, it's 6.8 and it looked taller. Yeah, I'll play like 6.1. I don't know, I'll say 6.1. I'm not a Jerry, man.

56:30You talked about watching the film. How different is that now for you in a white school and even coming here last year? Now it's like you got a lot of more resources. So you got coached actors just coming in and happy. And like, my main thing is I'm trying to come in early. And I'm getting with every coach I can. And really, you just, high school, you're not, you watch the film. But Tyler, it's like you got to stay watch film every day. I'm watching the practice three times, two three times a day. And flight, that's it for you. It's being close to home, it's working out well for you. Which kind of stand in your bubble and what is that like? Yeah, stay at home, it's cool. But I don't really be going back home, ain't that bad for me. But my family come and come kick it with me here and there. I pay for shooting. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, my mom, she loved down close. It's like, what do you say? It's an evening to grow up in. Yeah. You're coming for breakfast. Mm-hmm. Who's that mother? Flighters would say, you know what? I'm not going to be here. I'm going to be here. I'm going to be here. Who's that mother? Flighters would say that about me. Ah, I'm your girl. Yeah, I would say it's typical for her.

57:30You can't feel like you feel that way too. Uh, not for her, honestly. But they said I did. I was just thinking. I was thinking. You mean, you're just thinking. You're just thinking. Mm-hmm. Doesn't know what he doesn't know. Yeah, I feel like I knew a lot. I knew I knew I know too much, but I feel like I'm held my home. But I definitely could have learned more. I didn't know too much. I didn't know how I still could. You basically have a program, a high school, wasn't there? I think I have other skills. Thank you. Thank you. Leonard on the other side. It was awesome. He was winning a lot. Um, I was in a lot of havoc. He had a couple good plays in the run. Yeah. Um, but this week, I think we're playing a better, um, honestly, a better team that's, uh, they're playing better football. It looks like. And, uh, they run the ball well. And, um, we're going to have to be better in our techniques. We kind of got away with some things last week. So, uh, so yeah, we have to hone in and not, not pet ourselves on the back.

58:31What's the potential for that? The potential for that. The standards that stand on present now that you're in the face and you know, you deserve a lot of it. Um, I haven't watched too much on him. He's stout. You can run a little bit. Uh, I mean, since he's been here, uh, I know how, how, how his arm strength is and how he's a good processor of information and to get the ball out. So, um, it'll, it'll be the same formula. Try and make him one dimensional. Super great, Darren. What's made him? What makes him such a tough one? I think he's got a low center of gravity. Um, he's athletic. Um, so it's tough to power him. And then, um, he's, he's athletic enough to run nearby. And if he gets his hands, he kind of is able to replace him. Can you run your bike? Somebody like Leonard has got such a good high motor. Does that, you see that kind of carry over to the, to the rest of the room when you're playing next to the guy that's given that kind of effort. Yeah, I think our effort was pretty darn good against the Jets, even from first play on.

59:33Sometimes it takes a little, uh, little time early in the season because game speed is different and that game wind is different. Um, but I think we're flying around and, and, uh, Floyd's no exception. Um, Aaron helped evolve the less amount, the least amount that any quarterback in the league last week, 2.33 seconds. How do you, as a past Russian who wants to get those sacks? How do you do that? I mean, there's obviously a positive that comes with that from the overall defense. But how do you do that? Yeah, I mean, it's, it's tough. We kind of expected it though. Um, and then they pulled them late, which was kind of surprising. But I think we're, we were causing some pressure. Um, we weren't on the field much. Um, and then you're going three and out and he's getting the ball out. So it gets a little tough to keep your mind in it. But there was some ops at the end there and, uh, we're just going to have, I mean, games. It's good football.

1:00:33It's nine or football. That's the type of games we have when we don't have a lot of ops, but we have to go get them at the end. So we have to keep our mind in it. We're kind of saying the other night that, uh, he came, remissing all the camp. He was, he said, I can't, couldn't leave. I'll laser focus to everybody. There was nobody was doing. No joke got around. Everybody was serious. He was, I really impressed. Did you have that feeling all along through camp? And did you see feel that going into the game? Yeah, it's funny because when I came in last year, I was talking to Trent about how it's like high fives and hugs. Right when you walk in and then everybody's like, all right, we've been here. We're working and they like, it's work. It's football and that's just how it is here. And that's why we were able to have a good team year in and year out. Nick, what kind of pride do you've taken the fact that you were beating the Jets so bad they took out your enrauders? Um, like I said, we're not patting ourselves in the back. It's one game and, um, we don't know how good we are yet.

1:01:33We don't know how good other teams are so we just have to keep getting better. You ever had a backward ball rush like you have last year? That was a failed move. But I'll take it. I get a little pressure on them. Yeah. Absolutely game. What were you on Patrick Willis kind of talking about it? Yeah, he was just asking me about some of my past-risk plans and that was just elaborating and we were kind of going back and forth. As far as road environments in Minnesota has got a pretty unique band. Do you enjoy playing there in Minnesota, like stadiums, depends on that? It's a long flight and it's field turf but it is one of the cooler environments I can't lie about that. Thanks Nick. Yeah. What makes you good in that area good round runner? Where do you feel like you were able to sort of succeed at the past catcher? Yeah, I think I just have a good feel for the game when I'm running routes and try to understand the whole play, the whole concept from a very deep level and try to find those holes in the defense as well and be on the same cage with the quarterback.

1:02:40Do you ever receive a backhand? No. No. So I actually played quarterback growing up until my junior year of high school so that's kind of when I made the transition to Tide-In. Why do you switch? There's just some things as a Tide quarterback battle and the coach knew I could play Tide-In. So you know, I kind of wanted to do it too. It was something that I was interested in. So it's kind of how that came about. Do you get to do the things where 51 cuts last year? Right. And then 40 catches. Yeah. I'm sure you had a lot of suitors. Why come to a place where that's not necessarily been the best of history in terms of production type? Right. Yeah. And I think Coach Key, I mean, he hit on all the things I wanted to hear in some things that didn't want to hear. You know, I mean, that's real as a coach and you want to be in an environment that's going to push you in all aspects of the game. And being in Tide-In is not just about past coaching. You know, you've got to block and I think that's something that I want to keep developing. And going against these guys every day, I mean, running routes and blocking these guys every day.

1:03:42I mean, it's going to make you better. I think I have a, you know, a vision of where I want to be as a Tide-In. And I think this place gives me the best opportunity to do that. That's about getting production more about well-rounded yourself. Yeah, I think so. Just whatever way I can help the team, whatever they're asked for me to do. I'm going to do. So, what did you want to hear from you? What did he say that you didn't like? I mean, I like everything. But like, you know, you know, Coach is like, they sometimes just tell you what you want to hear. You know, you don't always want that. You want someone that's real. And you get the real with me and you know, you show some things that like, I need to improve on, which I like to hear, but not everyone wants to hear. You know what I mean? So stuff like that. Coach, you noticed a really good route, which of the dissenders are so far? It's been a lot of six days. Yeah, I mean, they're all great. There's so many of them. I mean, I think, you know, honestly, I'm not, I'm so locked in on the plays at the time. I don't really have time to see who's even across from me. So it's kind of hard to really think about who's giving me the most trouble at this moment.

1:04:47Keanu was saying about Caleb and Leith and kind of vouch for you. You were told that you were a bit more from the, from the frugian, maybe you had a chance to talk to Caleb or Leith a little bit. Yeah, I did. Yeah, Leith and his awesome, got to know him a little bit before he went off and started training. So he was awesome to be around, awesome to talk to and same with Caleb. They're just great people. They're your teammates. They're your teammates in the areas of your corner? Yeah, yeah, yeah. They've been great so far. How much do you have to help them? I'm just kind of approaching you in January and having that opportunity to be with the team as they went about now. Right, yeah, it was great. I mean, just seeing the culture they have here and how they run things. You know, they had, they had that group of guys that really, you know, led the way and showed, showed me what it looks like to win here. So it was awesome. Thanks. Thank you. I know that can even be the NFL, but we're all good players from the point of view. So I'm excited to be on this state. That is amazing. Matt, when you were on the, you were talking to Julian Edelman. That's when the only podcast we've had to refer to with recent interview.

1:05:48You know, we're talking about building schemes to fit the person. Yeah, it doesn't seem like you're married to just one thing. So yeah, if you are a scheme flexible, what is the overall principle that guides you as a defensive coordinator? Yeah, yeah. So it's something that kind of developed, right? I think when I originally went to New England in the early 2000s, the game was different. You know, there was much more like two back sets and double tight end sets. And we were fundamentally at 314, as people would say. Now our 314 changed through the years. We always kind of were developing it, involving it. But the game changed. And one of the things that kind of happened to us at New England, luckily enough, fortunately, I'm all very lucky with the things that happened for a reason. But we would pick late in the draft because of our season. Our 314 scheme really expanded, you know, couple of coaches left, you know, Neil Cornell left and Eric went to the jet. And so it became much more difficult to find the pieces to fit the scheme. So we had to take the reverse effect. Let's just get the best players we can. Let's bring them in and let's figure out how to use it.

1:06:50Let's figure out how to put them in position. And then with 11 personnel and no hodles and all those things that involved. The game changed from a really heavy kind of like called base defensive packages to multiple sub packages. And that's something else that happened. And we just had guys that involved the defense to the years because they were on our team. So saying all that, I guess what I tell everybody is, you know, my whole goal is to try to figure out what do you do well? How do I put you in the best position to go get on the field and do that well, that job well, the best your ability. Because if you can play fast, you can play aggressive because you know, you know, I have you in your skill set. Then you're going to be disruptive as a defensive player. You're going to help us win as a defense, win as a team. And we can put the pieces around where everybody goes, you know, in that court. So and then go from there. So that's kind of like, you know, I'm of course, three, four, four, three, nickel, big nickel, dimes, all those packages, four down from five down front, odd spacing. And you know, just you kind of do it through the course of the year.

1:07:51So to me, it's all like, hey, that guy can do this or that guy can do this. And then I also think it creates rules. So it's not always like the same 11 on the field. So you can have a really good skill set and you can do something in a critical situation. Then you know, we got to get you in that spot and help you be in that situation. You win the game. That's a reliable. Yeah, yeah. That's what it's going to say. I'm always going to say it is. It is. Yeah, I actually have two of them right now. I brought them in and kind of like set them down. Everyone's like, oh my gosh, what is that? It's just just reference. That's what opportunity to come to Ohio State and become some of the talent coming back. And the guys you'd be able to get it, shoot it out to you. I want to go coach that guy. I would like to have an opportunity to put that guy in the words. Yeah. I mean, it's hard not to work in the building and try to find Caleb as fast as possible. I mean, he is unbelievable, amazing player. Very versatile. You know, we can, there's a lot of like, you know, you look at a guy like that. We're going to be able to do some really fun things with him and his super smart. And he's so such a great student in the game and his approach is amazing. Sonny styles.

1:08:51I mean, you know, we look at him and you know, our belt. I mean, those are guys. We always had big backers. I walked in and I was like, can't believe it. I'm like, this is like these guys are, you know, they're big. They're long. They can move. They eat up a lot of space. So now my brain just starts. I'm like, oh, we can do this. We can move here. We can put in there. We can line up here and do all those things. But then you got you got IGB outside, you know, germane. You got you have so many great players to me. I know it's exciting. It's exciting. You have a relationship with Timmy Wolfe. Yes. But basically this whole staff is here and you're coming in just to talk about that dynamic and how much work is there? Yeah. I mean, how lucky for me, right? To be able to come in a situation where these guys can really help bring me in, you know, and let me in. And so obviously I lean on Tim quite a bit because of our relationship going back, but coach Johnson and I have known each other for a long time, you know, going back to when I was at Syracuse University. The head coach there was Paul Pasco. We want to get played at Penn State.

1:09:52So we always kind of had a Penn State Syracuse, you know, kind of connection and obviously just admired him for the years and always was talking to him because he's great players coming out. Wherever he's coached to come to our level. So you were always building those relationships. And so to be able to sit down and talk football, the philosophy with him is amazing. The cover stuff we put with Tim and I, it's like just like a natural conversation because again, Tim was in the NFL for a long time too. So a lot of those conversations are great. Matt and James, I worked out James here. I'm probably pretty sure that I'm a skilled and I was yelling at him. But you know, super smart player, a guy that saw the game extremely well and was able to play fast because of it. And so all of that, those connections that's been, it's kind of really awesome. And I'm just, again, I just, my job is really to sit and try to observe and then, okay, where can I add, where can we change, where can we adjust. And then we got to work it out of the system. I still wear the... Sorry.

1:10:52Yeah, I was actually in that practice room. I was rolling. Yeah, is that just... You know, I'm always taking notes. I actually don't have mine, but I usually care like on a notebook. So even when our guys are working out, I'm probably walking around just taking a little notes and, you know, we're always drawing football. It's kind of just a habit at most points from being a young coach and breaking film. You know, I think I kind of told the story. I'm a Julian's podcast or the show that Coach and I did. You know, as a young coach, we would break down film. I would draw every play, you know, in detail, all 22 guys, footballer, depth, alignments, all of it. And it really was, you know, we hand-drawn. And, you know, the good old number two was the best thing to do. Nice and sharp. We got a nice clean point. And the lines were smooth. But it used to take us like 12 hours to break the game. You know, you're drawing every play. So when you're coaching all day long, and then trying to break four or five games during the course of the week, if you had 10 minutes, I mean, care where you were in the building. You had your pads with you. You were like, boom, let me start to draw.

1:11:53It kind of just went in the hat, because that was the safest place to put it. So that's kind of where that is. But I'm always trying to take notes and stuff. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, I got some good notes and some money for sure. Yep. I'll share some. The bell and chick is going back to school. Don't speak. Yep. Did that impact you? Have you guys prepared notes at all? I'm in it. I don't know if you do that. Yeah. Why did that? Maybe that's what we showed you. Yeah, I would say this. I started to wrap it up. I was very close. We talked a lot. You know, and we've spent great, you know, two decades together of football conversation too. But we were together every day this past fall. You know, we did the coach show on YouTube, which was, which was great. That was something I wrote last spring. And then just, you know, no way for you and I to get in the room and just teach football, which we'd love to do. Thank you for asking. But we did have a lot of conversation about college football, you know, through the course of really last spring. Take a look at how we really get fascinated with roster builds.

1:12:55So one of the things I think that was really interesting with college football was with the portals, with, you know, the two opportunities there, with recruiting, how fast can you build your team, how fast can you really, you know, get the good players in the building. In the NFL, it was pretty, pretty rigid, you know, you knew your points, whether it was free agency to the draft, to the 53 cut to the, to the trade deadline. Those were the four opportunities. Then with the contracts, you know, how many, how many, how many really big contracts can you sign and we just, we got fascinated with the college model. So we really started studying a lot of the different schools and how they were building the roster. So we did have a lot of those conversations. And duties are different, but what did you learn and did you really? There is so much you learn in that situation. I mean, obviously, you know, for myself going from being a coordinator to a head coach, it's, there's no book. It's really, you know, interior in that position. And that's why, you know, so many first time head coaches, it's not easy, you know, and a lot of times when you go back and if you get a second opportunity, you have more success because if you do take that opportunity and the mind Detroit was great.

1:13:58I learned a lot, you know, great family, the poor families that owned it. It was a great franchise. I wasn't my best version of my of a coach, you know, that's something I certainly, I take responsibility for. And, you know, through the course of my years of coaching, like that, all of them are going to be perfect. You know, I'm trying as much as I can, but that first year was really hard, you know, and I was trying to learn a lot and I didn't do a good job. You know, I reflected a lot too. I think one of the things that really, I kind of lost that micro-girding document, you see that? And something like triggered when I was watching, he was talking about, you know, his intensity when they lost the championship and how told everybody that was coming in the building the next year, exactly how it was going to be like his focus. You know, we had lost the Super World, and we had been, you know, the Super World Championship, Super World Championship, it was like every other year. And so we had one in 16, we went back and set up to new loss. And I think that, that mindset when you use that game, like, all you want to do is go, you just want to go back.

1:14:59Like, it's just your level of where your intensity and your intensity is at such a high level. And then I got to work with my job of walking into a new building where they didn't lose this. You know, I mean, that wasn't their fault, that was my fault. And I never reset myself, I don't think well enough to like, hey, I'm in some place new. These guys didn't have that during the last year. I got to start teaching Portuguese. I got to start the building and I didn't do a bit of a job. Matt, you mentioned last year you didn't have so many different packages that you used as you moved to the college level. Matt, where are you on the 10th? Yeah, I think the beauty of football and definitely something I learned in Lainewam was, let's take the extremely complex. And let's try to boil it down to maybe three to five things, really simple. So we can really detail that out as much as possible. I think that's a really cool thing to do. I think that in general, yes, we have lots of packages and all that stuff.

1:16:01I always felt going into a game, I just want to make sure they can go play fast and play aggressive. So I don't want to have too much where they can't do that. I want them to be able to go play, they play, you know, I'm not playing, they play the game. So let them get on the field, let them play fast, let them play aggressive. And I think that is a good balance of making sure you have enough to defend what you're going to see. But also, you know, let the players go play free enough where they can be aggressive and have the tools on the field they need. And it's going to be my job to make this job easier. Darius, Darren urban from AZCarnels.com. I know that a lot of players these days aren't sticking in one school for a long time. You did it for five years. I mean, you even Marvin did it for three. Like what went behind that and why wasn't meaningful for you to stand in one school? Yes, I'm a Zura, you know, we had some tough seasons, but we were really built with an edge. And did you details grit in the emotional consistency? And I just find myself just trying to grow and get better each year. And also as a team, you know, win more games each year.

1:17:03And that was my, that was my home, that was my family I was blessed that, you know, get two degrees as well off the field. And I just love Mazzoo. Two degrees. Marvin, Bob McManamide Arizona Republic. Congratulations. Thank you to both of you. I want to know how that's going to serve you well in this league from personal standpoint. Your brand, everything you do, your daily preparation. There's a lot that goes into being all business. Tell me what that is to you. Yeah, I mean, that's just being a pro. It's kind of raised and grew up to do. And keep your same mindset, same attitude that I've had throughout my whole career. Once I get here, continue to work hard, be consistent and disciplined, and all that I do. So, looking forward to putting in the work. Hey, Marvin Josh Winefuss, ESPN. What were the best pieces of advice your dad gave you about being an NFL player? I mean, yeah, it takes a lot of work, a lot of preparation. No, from Monday to Saturday, it's all working.

1:18:06And then Sunday should be the easy part. I go out there, have fun, probably put the work in. So, as far as the work first, and then the one Sunday comes, it's really benefits. Hey, Darius, Howard Balls are from CardsWire. I can't help but notice that ring on your fingers. Is that a cotton bowl ring? Yes, it is the cotton bowl ring. It's a short... So, you showed it to Marvin very quickly? No, I just saw it to Marvin. I was telling Marvin, you know, he was glad he did play. I mean, the whole week we didn't know. You know, you see how I stayed here, everybody said, okay, Marvin Harrison. And then he was like, is he going to play? Is he going to play? He didn't play. So, you know, we looked out. Hey, Marvin, Paul Kelvici Cardinals broadcasting. Do you believe that receivers have to earn the trust of their quarterback? And if so, what does that usually require? Absolutely, you got to earn the trust of the quarterback. And they can start, you know, every day in practice, and being consistent, really. You can't just do it one day, you can't just do it for one week. Has to, you know, done over and over and over again.

1:19:06I think that's how trust has earned. So, no matter where you get picked, whether you're a first receiver, it's around seven. It doesn't really matter how to go in there and trust the quarterback. Your coaches, your teammates, so it's all such in practice. What's going on, guys? Good to see you again, Tyler Drake. There's no sports systems for Darius. What's the feeling of just being able to represent your school as that first round pick? And what kind of impact can that have for those guys falling in your footsteps? Yes, awesome. I feel like I'm setting the standard going for it, but that's named Mizzou, is known as D-Line Zou. So, I'm just added to the family, but now I feel like I'm setting the standard for my younger teammates that this is attainable if you work really hard, be consistent, and really get the trust of strength coach. I feel like every program has built out the strength coach and develops all the habits of owning off the field. Darius Zachers, Mnasey Carnels.com right over here. JG mentioned that he loves the violence that you play with. You mentioned the different tendencies that you picked up, the emotional consistency is the grit. How do you balance that, the violence with discipline on the field?

1:20:07Oh, honestly, just through preparation and practice. I'm a big guy, I'm a big believer in inside hands, so that's why I'm always working my hand placement, and then I lift weight, so that's all connected. So, I'm just trying to be focused on my technique as much as possible. Hey, Marvin, over here. David Bramble. So, the Associated Press. You know, a lot of rookies come into the league and they get a little bit of leeway. It's like, oh, he's young, he needs to grow and stuff like that, but obviously you're going to be expected to be the guy here really quickly. How do you deal with that pressure? How do you go about just so much being expected of you so quickly? I mean, yeah, I've high standards for myself, but I'm just going to go in there and try to work. You know, the best I can. I just want to help the team win really, so with that role I play, you know, come September, let me do my best, you know, do that role. Now, this one's for both of you guys. The fans want to know who you guys are on the inside. I don't know how much you're willing to reveal to us today. A lot would be nice.

1:21:08Can you tell us what you like to do away from football, what pisses you off about things and, you know, what makes you roll? I'm pretty simple, I like to, you know, be in my apartment, watch the movie, if I go out and I go to a restaurant, get some food, but I wouldn't out and wait too much and then I'm pretty easy going, guys, so I'll try not to let nothing bother me too much. I say the same thing, a real chill guy, just really obsessed with football, but outside of football, like I said, I got my two degrees, I got my undergrad, hospitality management and a minor in business, got my masters in positive culture with emphasis, athletic leadership. So just thinking about being well rounded and then I do philanthropy work, I start my own nonprofit foundation, Derrius Robinson helping hands foundation, but really just football and then everything else, honestly. Congratulations, guys, welcome to the Valley and Robbie Baker with Fox 10. Derrius, this is for you. After the draft last night, you had a great response about how you're processing, preparing

1:22:11for a game. You're just kind of wondering where your love for kind of the grind comes from and your love for that process comes from. I would say my junior year, because I play literally ball off and on, but I got my junior year and I was playing high school and my whole goal was just to earn a scholarship. But during that process, I really fell in love with the game, fell in love with working now, relationships with teammates and now I was kind of like my vice and I can't let it go and just kind of finding ways to always get better, you know. Luke, we're in here with 12 sports. Congrats both of you. Welcome to the Valley. This one's for you, Marvin. I'm curious, your thoughts or what was that conversation like with your dad after your name was called and you were able to be drafted by this organization and how surreal is it for you to be following on your own father's footsteps but in your own way? Yeah, I mean, it was very brief. Actually, just in a second, congratulations, I walk up to the stage and then I had to do a bunch of interviews at the word. So I don't think it's hit both of us yet and what's happened. I think one of my goals always make him proud. So I hope I did that.

1:23:12Marvin, Bob Rock, PHNX Sports, when do you anticipate catching your first passes from Kyla Murray? I don't know. I don't know, I guess we'll see. Hopefully as soon as possible. I guess you mentioned philanthropy and I know there's been, it's been talked about how you took some of the NIL and I L money to do a get back to school for the kids in Columbia. Where did that belief in doing those things come from? I say my family, my brother, my mom really instilled that into me, and to me at a young age just give back your blessings to others. And my fifth year at Mizzou was the best year of my life so why would I not share my blessings with others? So that's what really motivated me to do that. And now I've been in NFL. My goals are due three events each year. Just give back because you know it's life outside of football and bigger blessings out there. Marvin, you obviously played with a number of highly drafted receivers at Ohio State. What sort of feedback have you gotten about the NFL from them and about making the transition and the league itself? Yeah, it's a long season.

1:24:12I think going from the 12 game record season you have in college to what's the 17 games now and you have three preseason. I think actually just the biggest challenge. The game stays the same. Obviously, never all skilled and very talented athletes. So the mental part is probably the biggest thing and the biggest change from college to pros. Marvin, what's your timeline for hiring an agent right over here on the way far right? You haven't hired an agent. Why is that? Is there a timeline to hiring one and are you going to sign the NFL P.A. licensing agreement? I'll continue talking to my team. We do what's best for me. I'm moving forward. We just take it one day at a time. I just got drafted. So I'm trying to enjoy the moment and be happy while I can. Got the moment. Hey, Marvin. I'll say Romero, Arizona Republic. Welcome, man. Can you just kind of share a little bit about, you touched on it briefly here, but just a little bit more about growing up with your dad and the experiences you had in Indian apolis and games and so on and so forth? Yeah, I mean, there's no better role model coach.

1:25:12I mean, Torch, you can have this one who's played the game and then he's actually a father too. So he means a lot to me. He's helping get to the point I'm at right now. And she's been very detailed and everything that I've done, growing up with playing football. So we're thankful for him. I'm glad that he can be here with me today. Luke, looking again here with 12 sports. Is this for Darius? Darius? M-I-Z? Yeah, sir. I'm a moderate as well. Curious, what do you think you learn the most from your time at Mizzou that has helped you be ready for this moment? I'll say the biggest thing is not how you start is how you finish. I have to feel like me being drafted. That was the exclamation point on my career at Mizzou. But now I got to start all over again and really earn respect on my teammates and coaches and then earn a role within our organization. But that's what I'll say. Marvin over here. What's it like being another butt guy out here in the desert having Paris in the front row and getting to reunite with your guy out here? It's awesome. This is kind of like two years in the making of Paris and kind of had his conversation going

1:26:14back to even before he got drafted in the car. And I just get a chance to play with him again and hopefully my scorching touchdowns he raises me up and his arms like he used to do in college. So I'm super excited to play with him. I mean not only is he going to be a great teammate but a great friend of half as well. Or the tapes speaks for itself but what would you say is the most underrated part of your game? I think just my competitiveness. I mean I mean I'm not so much of an emotional guy on the field but I'm very competitive. I think it's probably a very underrated part of my game. Yeah, that's it. So thank you so much. Of course, thanks for your having us. When they gave me the all clear to start that week and then in the game there was like a critical third down on how to go make a play and I did that. So from there I think my trust started to go with the program. I thought really like the longevity of my career. I thought it would be at cornerback and I had a lot of trust in coach wall and I had a lot of trust in like what Ohio State does with DB so I was just I thought this would be

1:27:16the best fit for me. How much do you love that? I mean, I mean, being close to home my brother here that's definitely a plus but I had to think about like the longevity of my career like me playing with studies and I thought he could help me get to the NFL so I had to think about what was going to be best for me there. I think a lot about the program that there's a lot of similarities in between both programs. One thing that I really think about or I was thinking about like before coming doing this, we used to do like tug of war there so going to get some of the guys that swung on matchups and this game's kind of like that tug of war. There's going to be some of the metham swings and we just like when they blow the whistle out there we got to make sure we're pulling it to our side. They asked me a couple questions but that was more so last year. I know they have a new off the coordinator for OSU so the team is a little bit different from when I was there but yeah there's definitely some questions being asked. Yeah, he can run the ball for sure.

1:28:18I think his physicality, his athleticism, his toughness shows up on the tape. There's going to be a lot of plus one runs which makes it hard extra having the box out to defend that. I think he's a big leader on that team not saying the other quarterbacks weren't but he's really a driving force for that offense to go. He has decent size, he has really good size, he shows some twitch on film so I was there with him as well so I'm excited to go with that matchup. I'm doing this when I really think about it like legacy is a bit like really comes to mind my dad being here, my brother being here and then this team's growing. I think it's a really faith based team so I just want to give a lot of credit to G's graduate who's giving me this opportunity to be on this team be able to do this today. I don't even want to talk about this season being honest.

1:29:20Me and Jack have been friends since we were seven years old playing basketball and he helped my competitive edge really increase. When we were on the court he was always talking stuff, always getting our guys rallied up then and then he helped me get better when I'm younger because when you're younger the people you surround yourself with that really helps help you form who you are and he played a really big part in that just always pushed me to the best self and hopefully I did the same for him. I mean it's more like NFL season a little bit less but it starts to add up on your body. So good thing about Ohio State we have death too so when guys needed to step up like when I had my opportunity to see the D line multiple positions they really need to step up. We've had the guys to do that so they're staying healthy and really trying to take it over the whole season. That means a lot of Pyrgerton. We all played like childhood sports together so I think it just goes like the community

1:30:23that I was surrounded and then type of parents. That mindset just like really pushing their kids to be great and I hope that continues on a Pyrgerton. I would have to say either JT Sonny I feel bad for doing my boy Jack with JT or Sonny. I mean I feel like that's easy to say yeah just because he was like the number one player in the country coming out of high school so like the expectations have always been high but it's hard as like a eight year old even envision like him being like making that play that he did but we always knew we were going to play at a high level together and we talked about that since we were really young. Originally we talked about playing at Ohio State together and now we're here though but so like my freshman year when we both were freshman sophomore year when we were in Crude Ohio State we mean him or visiting like every other week together. So really just seeing the vision, seeing what he talked about and being a man of his word just going to come show it what he did.

1:31:31I honestly wasn't even thinking about Notre Dame because there was so much going on in the program at the time like the real focus was on being Tennessee so to be here in this time my girlfriend goes Notre Dame a lot of my family like just a lot of connections between Notre Dame and Ohio State for me so I just know it's going to be a good match up to everyone's excited for. I did talk to him but those were conversations were short later the total can't be talking to the enemy for too long so she went for Ohio State. We actually got a conversation about this so if anyone she should be in Ohio State if anyone sees it. It was a little difficult. It was a little bumpy but we got our Ohio State so I'm sure. Yeah no doubt my mom and dad they don't have to split jersey anymore anything like that Ohio State should be at this game. Yeah I'm on the outside but I've always kept in touch with my players there like some

1:32:37of my friends and a current players there so I want to credit a lot of that to coach Freeman. The program like when I was there they were some tough losses that were taken so they were definitely needed some change to be made and he did that and I think this formatting with the 12 team playoff that helped us but it really helped them as well. Yeah another name it was a little bit different just because it's already rooted in their tradition. So here guys that really had to step up and really kind of be vocal about it and I just think it was like the most important just because in our sport like you have to have a reference point and if you reference points this is measured on your success on the field how much NIL money you're getting things with that nature it's easy to go up and down so find that reference point within the Lord has kept this team study. Yeah I mean I feel like coach I say a lot of it is because you got a Ohio State roots

1:33:48but now honestly coach Freeman when he first came the team they really took him in when I was at Notre Dame. I remember him first coming in the locker room vividly and everyone in the team jumped up and there's another thing that sticks out to me before every single practice he depped up every single player in line so he really he's a really player coach and I just want to like he he works real hard like I just saw like the dedication he had like how much he cared about the program the players and being that Notre Dame man so I have a lot of respect and yeah a lot of their successes because him. Yeah I understand but I'm not sure on that level I'm like how much he's matured but I saw the the bricks being laid for sure why was there. I had a I had a long talk with Algon while was a defense coordinator and he really wanted me to stay but I kind of already had my line made up that I was ready to enter the portal and I'm finding better fit for myself so.

1:34:48Yeah that was the conversation as well so. I appreciate it thank you. Just a matter of continuing to do that in a different moment. That's what you know 4-3 you know you take a 4-3 everybody's choose confused and I'm a 4-3 guy but really you know you take a 4-3 you take him stand him up you can slide to a 3-4 just like that and that's multiple defense but I'll change any person now and so it's a 4-man brunch but we can go to a 3-man a 4-man 5-man 6-man hard to guys on the field so I think that within multiple we can keep saying it's a 4-man front but it can be a interchange before you're 5-6. Yeah that's it so awesome and it's how you look at it and everyone can say it's a 4-man front 4-man front not really when you cannot consider pieces the 4 guys can stay in the field and you can pop JT or pack KJR and I see another one that's got 3-4 but it's a 4-guys on the field playing that's been in the game and I think that will kind of lose how you can play deepness because you can't substitute every play to get a new

1:35:49person so those guys can be the play for a 4-man 3-man or whatever happens you have to be ready to do that. Do you think you'll have more opportunities to coach CJ this year? What would you envision for a role for them? He's looking right now so CJ is looking right now and trying to learn how to play to position and I want him to learn how to play position as a T-fus event stand up we get to that moment and not as a linebacker I think that's the transition he's mentally he's got to go through he's done an outstanding job thus far he's bought in to what we're doing and I think that's the key when it got by end like this is what I want to do and he has a really good skill set so we can use him in the model ways but we don't want to use him just third down right we want to use him first and second down so my job is to get him ready to play to run from on the line which is supposed to be in his space that's different and once we get calm as we go then I think we can give him a chance to give him some great depth and really do some good things for us. I'm excited about him because he's really excited about the position change. I'm excited about him because he's a player when you talk about being multiple how impact we're going to guy like CJB because of his versatility about the stand up.

1:36:53That's the bonus if you can do that right because it stays on the field and then you bring it out from space you can drop him from space or you can let him and I think that as we go forward I think we'll try to build and we just can't build it around one guy you got to build out when it came up what you can do on the field and so like I said it's early stage so it's hard to say this is what we're going to do because we're just putting it together and I know that CJ is very happy where he's at he's saying to have a really good time understanding what we're doing and so what the guy goes from there. What did you see last year that what you see from him last year that made you think that he could be an impact or we know he can rush he's got great speed off the edge you're really kicking off the ball and that we know that now I can say for his can he play on a tight end and a six technique and then stand it up in a two feet plank that's the thing you have someone ready to do once he master that they rush stuff a company because today is something to do and that's what we try to work on is we can walk out of spring we haven't really good about playing a run and rushing the faster than we got a bonus and that's the goal.

1:37:53You mentioned Josh Wippett because the guy was coming down the top pretty quickly about. Where did he in the season and how close do you think he is to be the guy who's going to back through the season? I think as we move forward I think he has some factor in I think every guy is factor in right because of the gap right so we're going to do some great players and now we're going to make these guys really fast and so we're going to hold hands and get them. Your room typically has guys who start to show it in your team. Yeah, but it seems like a trip. Start showing your two and then they got the first thing to see are the interviews. Without Jason, it's not something that's not going to happen a lot. Just didn't seem to come together in your two. How can he kind of make up that and get to where you need him to be that's what I need to be for his three where he's probably more necessary than what's left. Yeah, I think Jason's got to play football. He's got to play more football in life situation. I didn't get a lot of shots playing in games and so this all season this is the biggest off season. I've said to him, you're a mini conversation and this is a year or eight. This is the time.

1:38:54When the process is now built now he's going to go and I think he's ready for that show. So I'm looking for great things for him to go forward. He's seen to be in a good space right now. I like where he's at. But we got a lot of days to go to him. So I'm very confident. I guess the same thing when it comes to will. He's injured. I think especially. Has it played a lot of football for you? What's it? Is it kind of the same thing with him or is it a little different? A little different. We changed the position a little bit trying to find the right fit for him. He went over on three tech to have nose guards. I think we're going to flun a little bit one tech. I am really pleased where is that right now? It's got strong ways. It's got big right. It's quick in around that point. So I'm looking forward to as I go into that screen football, how he comes out. So far so good. I think he has a chance to help us. Well, they not a Jackson played a good number snap. Yeah. You guys, you're getting lost last year. But what does he need to do to be ready to take on a even bigger role? Well, he's got to be a leader. First of all, so that's a role for him. He has not been in. He's going to be a leader in moving unit. He's so far he's done a great job doing that.

1:39:56Now he's going to be the guy. He's going to have to demonstrate a production force and move the sick force. The arts and force and I think he has a chance to do that. Now he's going to play for what he gets to play. So we'll see him more. And I think we'll see his talent come from what made you want to bring in Logan George. And how do you see him fitting into this? Well, you look for a fit, right? And what's the point thing? He fit. Doesn't fit our defense. He doesn't fit our scheme. That's all important when you bring a guy to the court. He's got to be a fit and sitting talking to him, talking to his family, talking to his coach. He's really, really bright. And I raised him out of him as a player. And then once we sit down and talk, I feel like he fit our room, get great crowd. Get rushed. It'll be plays hard. And everything you want to see, you've got to have he has. And so I'm looking forward to seeing where he goes from. Is there anything you can do from the same hometown as Tommy Togi? Yeah, same high school. Is there anything like the Togi eyes that helped you learn more about Logan? Not necessarily about learning, but I know they had coached really well. And the men have picked up the phone and call him.

1:40:56I mean, he gave radio years and was a player. He was a person. And that was the end for me. Because you got to have some information. And then he had coaches just couldn't stop talking about it. It was a player and a person. And so my brother had been talked to him. And then he said, down. I got a job. It was pretty good. What do you need to see from a guy like him that knows that that can translate to a high-ost hate? This is like, that's actually quite literally the top of the sport right now. So how do you know that that's going to translate from FCS? Based on what I've seen thus far, the skill set is going to translate. It's going to translate. It's going to translate. Even though I made a huge mistake. No, I was just saying. Okay, it's going to translate. Yeah, I know what you're saying. Like it's a big moment now, right? But he's been a great job. I can tell you that I'm really looking forward to it. And he's been all business. And that's what you want. He's a great leader in the room. He's helping in young guys. But he goes on to see what he works in. And that's what I want. Yeah. There I think it's something that probably all of us. Yeah. I've talked about it in times over the years. Yeah.

1:41:56I'll just ask the drink. Yep. Was there anything in Jim Gould's time here where his style of defense and your style of defense did not exactly mesh? No. No. Why do you think we think that? Because you guys think he's a 3-4. You guys looked at his system at Oklahoma and thought that way is going to bring the jack thing here. That's what we thought. Right. So when you looked at them, you were able to look for a 3-4 defense. Yeah. And we have all these 4-3 guys here. And so you have to change the way you were treated. You got to change the defense to the game set. Right. And I think we tried Jack's or even the station. And then as the season went on and teams were playing offensively, you know, it was predicated to more and having four guys in the field and changing up. So it was never way. Like, like, like, I don't chase stories and lies out there because nobody's asking me this one a year and I've heard this. But Jim and I had really great conversations about what we were doing. There was never more where we were, hey, I don't want the 3-4. There was never that. It was the best fit for our players and how can we get them with the team. And that was always a conversation about us.

1:42:57And I took this day. The star was made of a ball, but it was a consequence. Maybe because I said, well, I don't know what the jack, you know, I don't know what, at that time, we don't know what we're going to do with the jack. I knew that we thought Jack, sorry, we were to say, the decision between coach and I, like, let's get Jack, sorry, back to him as a man. That's where we'll let's go to the other jack position, got to do it. But we never did it again. We never got back to the shore of the team. That's, it changed what you do. I don't know the question about it. It's a different scheme and different thing we do. And you got to look by it. Big 10 offense, and there's so many different ways, formations. You can get that guy caught in the hall trying to play that. So, is it stopped? When you did a bother you, that story was out there. How much did it bother you? The story was out there that you and those works, you and I had. You said you were making the fight. Here's what I say to you. It doesn't bother me because I know who I am as a man as a person, right? And so I'm never going to chase lies of people who talk about what I did. And I was amazed and I'm getting sitting tonight and I wouldn't have used to read it.

1:43:57Because that's not who I am. I mean, Jo and I had a great relationship and there it came down to that. I don't have the ultimate. I was never that, but the story got created, which is unfair. But you got created somehow with someone on a podcast. I guess trying to get clicks of some. I don't read that song. But no, it didn't bother me because I'm not chasing a lot. I know who I am as a person. I used to be very high in my character. I've been this business a long time. I don't have to go through chairs that are really the thing by point. I have a pinion. I give that a pinion. We agree, walk on a room, what we're going to do. When we go forward, I think you saw it this season. We played really well. And as we did it, we played well as a staff. How much more? How much testimony do you need? Yeah, I start when you think about it, especially the way the defense played. Down the stretch second half of the year in a playoff. When you think about staff, players, talent, experience coming in. What's your evaluation of how the Ohio State defense played on the way to the national championship? I think the play light up. I think they're played close as a unit.

1:44:58I thought they had a lot of pride about what they're doing. And they were on the mission. They really were asked to team up the rough day. You knew that it was going to change. I mean, I see this is probably the ones that coach you see. Guys played away. I mean, everything came to a time. And that's what you want. The greatest moment of all, it happened when I was young. I couldn't be more proud of how to play down the stretch. And every day, they came to work. Every day, they came to work. Never one moment, where they coached. No, let's go. Let's go. You have to be in the rooms and know. And practice and see exactly what's going on. Every day, those guys were preparing for every day. That's why you keep doing that. That's why you're so good. Why stop something really long? Because you know that. It's a moment. Like I said this before, I said to the young guys, talking about the four guys I've shrunk. We're doing this with them. They came back for a reason. And we have to give them everything we got to make sure they're ready to go. And that was every day in my meeting. Like, don't forget why we're doing this. It's why we have to go hard. Because these four guys here, they came back to do this again for us.

1:46:00I hope they win the championship. And that was my passion. I walked in every single day. I was not going to let those guys down. And that kind of permeated throughout my whole room. And that's where we approach every game, every season, every day. We talked about that. We're not going to make that. We came personally. Because you felt a connection to these four guys. It gave you everything they got. And you feel like you had to give them something back. So every day I walk in the room and say, I'm not going to fill you up. I'm going to give you everything I got. Everything I got, every day. Because I want you to be successful. They're lies. They're lies. I want you to feel tears all over our eyes. You felt they believed like, wow, we did it. You just looked at each other and said we did it. Because we believed in each other. So probably we've fought for three, three, four things we've talked about. Obviously, you got a lot of guys just going out on the door. And the primary reason for why that four three, four three, four three, four three. It made sense. That blacks turned over and come. It's such a massive play. You open to the idea of maybe the front's changed a little bit more of the shirt based on where the depth might be this year.

1:47:00I'm always open and chained because it's all about winning. It's all about putting our kids in the best position to be in. I don't know where just his concept comes out. I'm holding things back. I don't have any way. I just want to be a coach. And whatever you tell me or coach, I'm going to be a coach. That's the way I am. Just unfortunate that this 3-4-3 doesn't really matter. As long as we're successful in what we do and put on players in the best position to be successful. That should be the bottom line. Where you're 4-3-4-3-5-6 doesn't matter. Our players are the best position to play and they win. That's it. That's really matter. Because you start getting caught like, we don't do this and we don't have the personnel to do this. But we still plan it. The star is where the high state can't play the 3-4 because it's in our gun. It can't be that. I think you're a multi-quity fence and that's what we are. We can find what to use our players in the best position possible to be successful. I think you have to do that. And I think I've gone to what 6-4-6-4. And so the change is always revolving.

1:48:01So you have to adapt to it. But I'm all in. It's going to give us an investment. Our players will play as fast as they can. Whatever you play, I'm all in. So there's no resistance from coach John. So you've got to be a 4-1. We're going to be able to want to be a personnel fit. What we're trying to do. So last thing I'm going to say, it's not skiing. It's gym and the jokes. And so we can talk, scheme all you want, 3-4, where are we going? The end of the day is those guys are front and guys are back at. Or all on the same page to play the best possible defense. Does that same approach relate to rotation? No doubt. Never going to change. So you don't have a particular question for your job? How much do you want to rotate? I do. I go into the game with the idea of Zach what I want to do. Who will rotate? Who's ready? It's not necessarily rotating. Who's ready to rotate? You go into the game. Because you can't put a guy in the position where he's going to fail. Because you didn't get him ready for the fight. And I'm really big in that. They're ready to go. I'm ready to play.

1:49:01Let's go to the final. You want to get your first year here? Yeah, it's 2014. This guy, as you did, was it more special because you've gone through four years? Yeah. I had to tell you about the time. But I happened this year as well as much because you've been a group of guys. We've been around. You brought him in. I was in the alternate goal. Just to try to win that national championship. When we get it down with the same guys in your program. To me, that's what comes to talk about that. That's a great thing. Coach, think when you've had to wait your turn behind Zach and JT, but now that we try to win the World Cup, you got what? Yeah, I said it told me to feel different. It really didn't hit me until first practice of spring. But you know, it feels well. Yeah, what is that like over the way to tie? Especially in this age when you could have gotten up in the left. Yeah. What's that like over the way to tie? Is it paid off for you? I wouldn't say I paid off. Yeah, I really haven't done nothing yet. But you know, God has a path for everybody.

1:50:03He's paving my path right now. So I'm just letting him control and pay my path right now. When did you discover that with your path? When did you become a youth? Yeah, this is what I should do. I'll say, I'm gonna say after sophomore year, that's when, you know, it was a lot of ups and downs. And even this past year, it was a lot of ups and downs. But mainly from last year, it was a lot of ups. And you know, just like let him control everything. You know, I tend to, you know, over deep. You want to control things myself. But that's not how God works. Like I said, God has a path for everybody. I don't know, I don't know. I don't know. What is the biggest thing you've ever done? You've got to show me how to lead this. Just like consistent. You know, everybody, it's different leaders. You know, you've got the vocal leader. You've got the leader that's said by example. You know, it's different personalities in the group. So I'll say, you know, just, I can't talk to Edward. I'll talk to, you know, Ken and Curly. I can't talk to Ken and Curly how I talk to Ken. You know, so it's just, you know, they just, you know, they consistent, you know, they positive.

1:51:03Everything we're going to take care of stuff. You made bloods last year. You know, we, you made your part of this defense, right? What's your sense of this defense coming back? It's replacing egg starters. How quick are y'all to make another run? You know, everybody, you know, everybody's working. Like you said, we lost, you know, a lot of good players, man. A lot of good leaders, man. But, you know, the guys that stepped on up, we just got to step up. We just got to, you know, take on what the guys that, you know, left for us. Pretty much it. The same mindset that we had last year, you know, just like consistent on our toolbox and trust in Coach Jay, whatever he, you know, got for us. The receiver is a, is pretty polished. You have what he did made him like during a wise, he's sort of a defensive player. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, probably he had good coaches. And obviously he's naturally, you know, a gifted athlete. He played a couple different sports in high school. He has a good feel for space and super athletic. But he's, he's really impressed me with how, you know, how dedicated he is.

1:52:05And he's always in my office, you know, trying to get better. When you have little receivers, you guys have, how do you get the guy like him involved in the passing game as well? We saw Kate and G do it to some level, but he's a guy who caught 50-some passes. Yeah, no, I think, I think it makes it easier. Right, you know, I show these recruits all the time. Because everyone says, oh, I say, just a receiver school. It's like, Marvin Harrison was the best receiver in the country. You know, and you know, who number two is in targets and receptions and receiving ours was Kate. Because, you know, you could go to the other schools and they don't have the receivers we do. And you're going to get double there again. Good luck. I don't know many, you know, great plays if you're going to get bracketed. But no, you have the receivers at Coach Hartline. And when he's playing in here, we're going to have single coverage. And if my tight ends can beat single coverage. And, you know, we're going to have issues about how I get another tight end we can. Like, we've got a lot of tight ends who are pretty good receivers and excited to see them. You mentioned that inline blocking. Yeah. I think if you take PFF grades, you'll see what he will love that. They're not as high as other guys.

1:53:05Who? For Max, okay. Yeah, just how, how do you see that part of his game? Because I think that's been the knock that people have talked about. Yeah, I'm not sure. I mean, he checked that box when I watched the film. I'm not sure. But the nice folks at PFF watching. I think that's because Merrick didn't have many offers coming out. He's the best blocking tight end in the country. So, I don't know what his grade is. Listen, talk about the combine. He said that after the Purdue game came to you and said, hey, this guy is a portal guy. What do you remember? Yeah, yeah. Lathen trying to take all the credit. Caleb Downs was also kind of shurping with me. I always have dinner with those two guys at D.V. He's really the safeties on Friday nights. And I always, every week, just asking about the opposing tight ends. And they were super high on Max, Purdue week. And so, when he went to the portal, Lathen and Caleb, like, see, oh, that's a guy. So, I was like, we're not watching. Obviously, you have to do your own evaluation. And I'm just going to stop obviously. How much do you value that opinion? Do you hear that from guys who actually have to go on the field? No, hugely. And like, at this back to back years, really, because you had...

1:54:05I mean, I would have watched Max anyway. I'm not even playing too much play over here. But like, like the year before, it was the same way he was told me about World Pass Merrick. So, no, if a guy knows our culture, and says Coach G, he fits your room. Like, I gotta give Sam all the credit for finding cash. Is this the deepest tight end room that you've had here? Yeah, it's gotta be. Just because, again, Dan, how many guys played in the Natti? Then we had five. We had four or five tight ends. We had all six play in the playoffs. And four of those six are back. So, yeah, I mean, we've got tons of guys in that room that have started college football games. And not just against the school down the street. Like, big time moments and big time games. So, yeah, we're super deep. And what's the most valuable is that to know when you have four guys that have all played a lot of football in your tight end room? Usually, and I think the best part, Dan, is like, now I can challenge him even more. But we're past the stage of, okay, here's what it's gonna be like on Saturday. They've almost all the guys in that room have done it. You know, so now I can challenge him even more. Go be the best tight end room in the country. We're at a higher state. If you're not up to that challenge, then go somewhere else.

1:55:05For guys like Bennett and Jolani, what do they have to do to earn even more time this year? Yeah, I think everyone's different. Right, Bennett's different than Jolani. And for those guys, and we consistently, I said it last week, like, those cards are gonna put the best 11 on the field. It doesn't matter if they're all running back, if your receivers are tight ends. So, like, every day, I tell them, every day, you're competing against the other tight ends of the room. But we're competing against receivers and the running back. So, when we put two or three or four tight ends on the field, if that package is better than none, we're gonna live in that. So, every day is a challenge. How much did you go through? How much did you go through those injuries? How much did you go through those injuries? Working, growing, growing. Yeah, a lot. I was, obviously, all injuries are unfortunate. But he put in so much work. I was excited to see him have a full season. So, that was cut short. But, again, on the flip side, it challenged him to be more of a leader and to learn the offense, maybe, you know, taking a step back and help mentor a guy like Jolani. And I think there was a huge opportunity for a guy like Bennett and Jolani. Like, we watched it this morning,

1:56:05in my meeting, when we went down. We went tempo in the next play, G-block, the C-Gap. Then we hit Quinchon, then the next play, we were like 14% or 13%. And it was three tight ends, we had never done that. And we're on the road at Oregon, and like, we punched it in and scored. It's just a great story to tell the guys. Like, when Cade went down against Georgia, we played the game with Ms. Rossi. It's like, all the guys gotta be ready. I don't know when your number's gonna be called. So, I know it was unfortunate, but such a good learning opportunity. What are you? Today is not about Jolani needing to be more consistent. Is that some of your seeing more of a mental hospital? Yeah, I mean, he's off the charge night and day, more mature, been really impressed with just his work ethic. He's in here every night getting extra work in. I'm challenged to learn every position on offense. Don't just be a Y, be a Y, be an H. Know what the C-Gap. And then also be a leader. He's not a young guy anymore. So, like, he's coaching Nathan of Blonk and those guys in Max. You know, even harder, he was yelling at Max Claire. You know, he taught, not yelling at him. He was encouraging him to finish like, hey, you're, you're, you're, I say tight end.

1:57:07Like, we're gonna be going harder than everyone on the field. And I was like, he gets it. That's awesome. He's been a leader. So, super impressive. For you, I know you're one that deferred to your guys in Predacat. But you are kind of instinctive. One hard blow is a coach you can do. You've built your way up through this program now. Get the title of this offseason. What's it been like to watch your journey here and kind of see where you are now? Yeah, and I appreciate that. You know, I'm not gonna take the bait there. That's, that's total rap poison. But no, I think every, every offseason out of high state, we have such good players and we win championships. Everyone around here is gonna get opportunities to, to, to, to go somewhere. And that's a credit to those guys. There's also like shows all the trust that coach Day and coach Arlan have for me. And I've been, those guys have been my boss for the last nine years. Whether it's coach Day or coach Hard. So like, nothing's changed but a title. And just, you know, super blessed to be here with those two guys. And I love those guys. Kenan, you spent a lot of time starting talking about the message with your guys about being over at least talented group, pouring the rankings and all that. This group is now veteran.

1:58:07Oh yeah. I have one of the most productive tight ends in the country joining the room. Do you have to change? I know it's still gonna be hardest working. No, no, I'm not. Is it a different message now, different mentality? It is. It is. Yeah, Austin, you hit the nail on the head. Like, we're not changing our DNA. You, you cut open a high state title and easy to be a bad dude. It's a hard and it's just gritty. It's all get out. But I'm not saying that we're gonna be overlooked this year. At all, it's a 180. I told the guys we should set the tone for the offense for the team. You know, nationally, like with toughness and effort and all that, but production. And we should be a driving force. Like, I challenge them all the time. Someone comes to practice. You want to see what the Ohio State Buck guy fight culture is. A brother, just go watch your tight ends. Don't want to, like, that's who the Buck guys are. So I challenge them. I'm gonna have to sleep or a unit. No, no, like, set the tone. Did Max Flash quickly? I mean, you've been through the will trying to lead and encourage through practice. He's been here too much now. Is he putting that mindset?

1:59:07No, he feels right in. And I saw things to some things today. I'm like, all right. Yeah. No, he's easy to be a high state title. Yeah, no, I'm super proud of him. I know what you need. Sorry, did I miss anybody else? Good. Thank you guys. I mean, Michael Talman was talking to me before the game. Or the Rose Bowl, Incrus Carter and after the game as well. Just giving me advice. Just telling me to keep going first. Just keep doing what I've been doing the whole year. I mean, I'm God's Buck guy legend. So definitely look at them. God's for sure. Major respect. It means a lot. Me just to care for Miami. It's been a bit of the playing national championship as a freshman. Son of a dream. Go up as a kid. And I'm here now and there's K rated K can't wait to put on a show Monday. He said he got came. I mean, the Tissue note, like he says, Mary crazy each and every week playing.

2:00:15But you know, can't, can't let it get to my head. I should say, let me just football at the end of the day. But you know, just, you know, happy business position. None of us think we could be covered, man. Oh, man. I mean, we're actually talking about this yesterday as well. I mean, that's what they do. That's what they do. I mean, we just got God there, you know, play our game and no sort of reason why not the playman on man. Two. Four. Three.

2:01:17One. I go five. That's good. No problem. My mom said, you know, just go out there Monday. Just dominate the person I was confronting me. You know, just do what I've been doing for the last two to three weeks, I should say. But you know, they play men on men. So I'm just ready for the challenge. Yeah. I mean, feels good. Just say somebody going out there and play men on men, guess Ohio State receivers is something crazy. But you know, we just ready for the challenge. They said they're not chasing their game plan. But we got to go out there and show them the reason why not the playman on man. You know, the Baltimore 16. I'm sorry, it's not about right now. I'm sure you're going to be the conversation. Yeah.

2:02:17You would of course, but I do have to tell the guy state to pay for it. I mean, I don't really, if I be on a curve, I be on a curve. I mean, it's not really a big deal to me. It may definitely be a blessing for sure, just to be on a curve of a game, but you know, it's not really a dream of mine. It's a dream of mine, but I don't really think too much of it. I mean, no, not yet. Probably hit me after this easy. No, just no playing in the college football playoffs as a freshman, playing in the Rose Bowl as a freshman, playing in a Cardin Bowl, not in the National Championship. I mean, it's a blessing for sure, but it hasn't hit me yet. Sure. My favorite catch, I would say we play Michigan State on the one I call the two defenders,

2:03:19definitely probably my favorite for sure. Or you could go the one from Iowa, I should say, and then answer, probably them two. I mean, like you said, it's pretty frustrating me having a game that I had in the Rose Bowl, and they're coming to the Cardin Bowl, just doing different things, chasing their scheme up against me. But I mean, like you said, whatever I could do to make the, I mean, help the team win. It's not really a big deal for me, as long as we win, that's all I really care about, and then you gotta send the National Championship. Right here.

2:04:25It means a lot. We put a lot of work in this season. We have, we have, we have, we have, we have people cutting us out, but we hear now, we just ready to put on a show Monday. Oh yeah. Yeah. First of when there's a National Championship, because there were means a lot. I mean, you see everything that he bent on this year, people saying he should be fine, and then he died on third, but, you see everything that he bent through this year. I mean, I seen everything that he bent through this year, see everything, people saying my hand on Twitter. I wasn't here, he first got the head of coaching job, but I know this year for sure, we definitely got to win this for him. I mean, it's a lot, a lot of people in the league, I should say, I can't really say who,

2:05:31I mean, you had guys like Odele, you had guys like Odele, you had Stefan Diggs, it means a lot of Michael Thomas, Chris Carter, just a lot of, you know, guys I played in NFL and stuff like that, but yeah, really them guys for sure. No, just keep going. You got it, you've next up for sure. Really, yeah, really that for sure. I think it's the other way around. Physical defense, like people say, they like the play man, they're not changing their scheme. So we're just ready for the challenge. Like you said, best defense, we probably go see all year, and we just gotta be ready to go out there and Monday and just put on the show.

2:06:32What's your excitement? I'm excited for Will. First coming here in Ohio State, January our first workout we had together, just everything that we did through this season. I'm just happy for Will for him to be in this position right now, but we got to finish the job and that's the winning out of the Oman. It's pretty funny, um, them saying that because I'm just only a freshman, but I miss the bless of a sure people to even say that, but I got two, three more years left of college, and I'm just focused on college right now. I'm not really worried about the NFL right now. It's very special for me. Just being a freshman and playing the national stage, a career for a national title was something that I dreamed of as a very young kid. I'm just happy to be here and I just can't wait to put on the show Monday for you guys.

2:07:51I mean, all of us used to sit on the bench and we just see him hit the quarterback in the ball, come out and we all just got up and just started jumping up and down, we all decided. I'm happy for Jack and that moment and we just knew that that moment like, yeah, we're going to the daddy for sure. I'm just happy to be here and I just can't wait to put on the show Monday. I mean, it shows a lot, I mean, going from high school, or winning three-state championships, I saw my mama Donna then coming to Ohio State, just competing for national title right now, I mean, just so that I've picked two great schools, but I'm happy to be here and I just can't wait to put on the show Monday.

2:08:51What's the coolest person to reach out to? The coolest person. I mean, you got a lot, I can't really say just a specific person. You got a lot of great guys, re-challenging the lead, like O'Dell, you had guys like Stefan Diggs, a lot of other players as well, just can't cut them out my mom, but really, really them two guys will show O'Dell a Stefan Diggs. Yeah, I mean, like they say, they play man, so I mean, I'm just ready for the challenge, just can't wait to go out there Monday and just no put on the show. Thank you. We're going to go back over there. The Vice Geno had gave me, I said just keep guard first.

2:09:53I know the reason why I'm here, I mean, like he said, just keep guard first, and just don't keep the main thing and the main thing. And the best corner I faced this year, I mean, I faced a lot of great corners, I can't really say, but yeah, I faced a great corner. I can't really put a name on it. My dream occasion is Terence and K-Codes. What good are you? I say both respect and frustration as well. But I mean, I doubt they come out there and try to team me, and they say stick it to what they've been doing all year,

2:10:53and that's playing man coverage, which is ready for the challenge. Pretty good group, Christian Grey 29 is a great corner, 15, Lenard Moore, two great guys, or am I there? Very physical, but we all highest there received us, so we ready for the challenge. I say just no understanding the defense, understanding the game plan,

2:11:53understanding what Coach Kelly is trying to get done. I mean, just coming in, I felt I progressed from our first game against Akron to now, I felt I got better each and every week, me being slowed down a lot for me, but yeah, really just no understanding the differences and no understanding what they're trying to do to me, for sure. I'm two guys, great, probably the best we go see all year, for sure. Two physical guys, but we're ready for the challenge that they're coming with, and that's the play man, no man, and we're ready to go on Monday. Yeah. I mean, the environment is pretty crazy, seeing all these cameras, something that I never thought I'd see them all life, but it's a blessing for sure to be in this position right now. I mean, we just had a prayer, prayer, prayer, prayer meeting,

2:13:05and you know, we all, they all discussed the issues, cause they discussed the issues, and you know, we just want the work, I mean, not two and a half weeks we had off before Tennessee game, and we just came out there, and we played with a chip on our shoulder, all throughout the playoffs, and we go continue to play with that chip on our shoulder and that's the championship on Monday. Do you know how that very impactful, you had a very impact on my career, I should say, just going to his games as a very young kid, seven, eight years old, him playing West Virginia, and they played Clemson, the Orange Bull, down at Miami, and he just go like that, seeing his games, it was like, yeah, definitely when the play on this stage, and I can wait till I get to know that moment for sure.

2:14:08Cause they really just in his own, his own love space, he's just walking around trying to get his mind right, trying to get his mind ready for the game, but he just gave everybody hype in the locker room, and just trying to get us ready to go to win the game. Oh yeah, oh yeah for sure, I mean, you go play, man, I guess Ohio State receivers, I mean, just be ready, cause we definitely go come out there and give our best, and I mean, they said not to change what they do, so we're just ready for the challenge. Not a year later, definitely sometime my career in college, but not my first year in college, I should say, man, just to be able to be in this position right now,

2:15:08just to be here for Miami to be here, and I won't take it for granted, I'm ready to go out there, man, thank you for my role. I'm online Some of you guys who haven't envied this round with 22 years, they'll look what a play they want in this. I mean, yeah, I was watching that game, I was pretty sick myself because I was actually committed at that time. So I mean, yeah, they left a bad test name off, but I mean, we ready to go out there Monday to redeem myself and just go put on show Monday.

2:16:14I mean, I just laugh, but you know, that's what they do. They're not going to change what they do just because we're a higher state. So when you got to go out, they're putting on, putting on why not to play a man on man against us. So we just got to go out there and show them Monday. He said again. Sorry. My journey here at Ohio State repaired me a lot from that your shape of shit. I mean, just going through everything that I've been through. I first got here all the materials, all the hard workouts that we had, all the hard practices. I mean, just preparing all of us for this moment. And I'm just ready to go out there and give it up my all on Monday. Who just squeezed this? One or nine?

2:17:25200? Me is big and strong. What's 20? Yeah, that's great. Yeah, pretty good. And why not part of the most is the one against Michigan State when I caught over two defenders on their side line.

2:18:27Put it like one or the one after that, I should say, or you go the one against Iowa, probably them three, probably my best ones for sure. I mean, just we'll put in the ball in my area and I just know how to make a play for them. Even though somebody was gathering my face, I just know I still have to make a play because the ball touched my hand. So, I mean, just when the ball and the other thing, I have to make the play no matter how the ball comes at me. After a big game, I mean, we really, they really feed us Chick-fil-A or piece after the game. So it's really either Chick-fil-A or piece. So yeah, probably Chick-fil-A for sure.

2:19:39It went pretty good. Everybody just speaking with their thing is going right and what they think is wrong. Which is a lot of the older guys, what's in their opinions on what we need to do to come together as a team. But you know, that meeting definitely helped us in a big way because it helped us on the field as well because we're playing our great football right now and we just got to you that one Monday. Yeah, definitely got emotional. Can't really say what it really would say because that's not players only and coaches only but it would definitely some stuff say that people took and it went with it and that's the reason we planned it was our plan right now. Yeah, make help me a lot this year. Him being our older guy in the room. Me help me and Carl Nell as well and Brendan and all the guys in our

2:20:40seed room as well. Me just a great guy as well. Very smart. Me make just been a big part of the reason that I'm having a seed that I'm having a well because he's been a big. You know, older guy been there, been a lot of great guys in our room like Chris Alive, Gary Wilson, Marvin Harrison Jr. Jackson, Smith and Jim. So he's seen all the Chris I've been through there and he teaching us the right thing and the right way and the buck out way for sure. Thank you so much. We didn't necessarily film with it much but we might have seen him come to us again. So the other thing that you feel on the radio is the hospital. I feel like I was really, you know, right? I mean, come out of there and just got me different. I mean, I just feel like I had an all the office. I think I mean, but obviously I had fucked down like a hurting work size. But it doesn't matter if you get here in the old starboard. What was it like to make that assumption? You know, I feel good. I'm actually feeling an auto hard work and I do that spring on the teaching.

2:21:40And I could you gave me not just paid off. I was playing with a camera. They give me two deep as a true freshman. I was late for the job. I was in the upper 280's and I had a bigger role this year. So what do you expect going into a second? You know, I just work to beat. You know, I mean, obviously, you know, whatever, with how many savings or whatever. You know, I'm just working just to beat, you know, work my tail off and make a roll for my son. How do you treat physical? I was like, I was like, I got a lot more aggressive and I gave some weight now. I'm pushing 200 pounds now. I'm not against Harvard. Coach Patricia, what have you seen from David? I've always been like real. He's a great guy. You know, I like him. He's a great guy. He cares about his players. He is an awesome football wise. He's a master in the fight behind his, he is a well respected giving him football business. He's a good one. You know, and it's tied me to that. So it's like, it's like doing something. Was it? I wasn't there. It's like the starter or occasional piece of what's going to be going to be wrong?

2:22:43It's failing to claim and it's failing. I'm not expecting you to add value, you know, formal half of this team and just make plans. You feel a lot more, I feel this year. Oh yes, for sure. I feel like I'm starting to use the everything here and I feel like I'm just trying to pull up on the last year. I'm just like, I'm trying to make a role with my players. What? I was going to say, you know, Ryan set up a bigot of a spring starting this strategy way and I don't be letting too much of the shadow of the next texture. How was the team really embraced that mindset and to see competitive in that mindset? You know, we have more ideas so far. You know, we're trying to stay determined and I know just trying to dominate and we're not living in the past anymore. It's like it never happened to the China another one. I think coaches got adventure they're having an A and B role, they have a B role that they're pulling in. I think that gets a grip to the other position. Well, obviously, you know, right now, playing in Scotland for the sake of just trying to, you know, craft myself and just make myself more versatile for the team wherever I go.

2:23:44I think it's really good to get some more last file. Limiting his reps. Obviously, he's literally like a pro-fascist. So, you know, obviously, I'm leaving this now. And for him, you're leaving Ryan, is this a lot of work? I mean, skipping, skiing better. Thank you. Appreciate it. I speak some of his language with what he's called things before and you're trying to morph everything together right with these things that we've done. What he knows, what he's doing, it's a lot. He's been incredible with, I think the staff, he's very organized, he's detailed. You'll have constant, clear communication. You know, and they're going to get together at this time and being like, you're just efficient in your role. And it's been a lot like when you're come from outside and you come back into it and you have to try to catch him up on the recruiting board. It's in, you know, like, you have a lot of these conversations. Okay, what are we looking for at these positions now? How do you see it? Because you don't under one coordinator, you might see the mic line back and you used to be this.

2:24:44And then under this coordinator, well, I think the mic back needs to be this. So you have to have those conversations at every position. And you just kind of keep going through and. But I'm just excited to learn. I think the more systems, I mean, luck. Play in the system here in college, play the system, understand you. Play the system, play the system under Greg Williams, Dennis Allen, Coach of Ralagold, and Jim Nolte. Everyone of those, there's like different terminology for everything. So you're just, you're learning a different language, you know, I mean, there's this concept. And I think it is kind of collect over time. What you think is really good stuff and how you do stuff a bit, a little different. And I'm just really excited to learn from Matt and Tim's kind of success. He seemed very excited over there talking really to me here. Yeah, coaching college, whatever. So long. What's his personality like with you guys? Yeah. He's been great. I mean, his energy is incredible. He's very, he is. He's authentically excited to be back in college football.

2:25:45You can tell there's like a yearning to get back to like the why you got the coaching, right? Is that impact young people? Is the impact teach the game of football? And so the few times it's been a fun, you know, kind of like talking to the guys. You can sense like he's excited to just teach ball. You know what I mean? And kind of ironically, like, you know, similar to a lot of things that chips that last year, right? You gotta get back and you're like, man, I'm just excited to. And so he has that excitement. He's done a phenomenal job, I think, of getting the other players. Just kind of like walking around versus like popping in, making sure that he's in front of them. And they get to know him and he gets to know them. And it's a lot that you can imagine when you come in and you have all these guys, right? And trying to learn all these guys, I'm learning recruiting, trying to learn to staff, I'm learning dynamics, like it's a lot, but he's handled it really well. You know, he's an old school ball coach, so he's a grinder. So he's really good job. James, Sonny's probably not going to need to do much this spring.

2:26:45How much more can you get done with the young guy? Let's tell him that. So he's got to do a lot. But in terms of Ryan Dair, he said, you know, 50%, 75%, or whatever. How much more can you get done with the young guys when they're not worried too much about the senior? Yeah, I think, I mean, you're always just looking for competition, especially like a spring ball. And that's what it's all about, right? You're trying to have it so cliche, but it's true. Like the iron sharpens iron mentality of you want your room to be super competitive to where, hey, the guy in front of me makes a play. My next set of four plays I go out there, I have to be on point, right? And it's a constant driving of the room forward. And so, yeah, Sonny gets 50 or how many reps, you know, reps off 50% wherever coach said, then that means more opportunity for somebody else to play, right? So that need more for our values that scheme flexibility with our value. We'll pay pierce around it. We set TJ Riley, you like all these guys stove. We're all going to get more reps.

2:27:45I think it's great. It's what you got to do at this point in season. But I think, you know, yes, there's still stuff that I think that all of a sudden he is that he's going to be clawing to try to get those reps because he's a true pro. And that's been the most enjoyable thing about working with him is like, you get a kid who's played safety his whole life comes to the back yard. He just wants to learn the why behind everything. You know, very similar to the fact of Cody, like, we have guys who are that easy to work with. You're not trying to like, you're not worried about texting anybody in our room about coming over and trying to learn ball. You know what I mean? Like, were you at, you know, like, they're obsessed with the game of football. They're always around when they're not at class. So it's like, it makes it really easy as a coach because they're passionate for the game and so strong. You mentioned TJ in terms of the higher with the map. Just looking sunny, like, what do you envision more with him with all of that stuff? I think, I think we just have a lot of guys with a lot of length.

2:28:46It's about sunny styles long, can run our bellries long, can run like, it's crazy because you see sunny. You're like, okay, this guy, like, I wish I was built like that when I played. And then you see our bell stand next to sunny. You're like, you know what I mean? And so like, and then you look across the room like as the room warms up, you're like, holy smokes like we just have a bunch of guys and that's a lot of credit to make. Coach made it as a phenomenal job. I was just talking to Burm about it like to see even our media guys what they look like when they showed up during the full of the whole on that era and they're kind of hanging out during practice and see the high school bodies to see what they look like today before they go away. And like the shoulders are all like everything is just different and they've been indoctrinated into the brotherhood. So I think, you know, there's just a lot to work with. And so what he's really good at right is like he's talked about it.

2:29:49One year he has junior sale will get us Mike variable, you know, Roosevelt Colvin and those guys. And then a couple of years later he has Brandon spikes. So he's like, okay, I just put his blitz brand in the middle all the time. So he was 260 pounds and beast. And he always says he was my best nose guard from Mike backer, right? And then the year after that he gets, you know, we got Jamie Collins and Dante high talent. So now we can do a lot of stuff, right? So they're not just like, hey, this is what we're doing. We got plenty of people into it. Hey, here's what we got. Let's utilize it. So that's what strength will be. While on the lab and figure out what that means. I'm sure through spring ball, there'll be like, hey, here's what we do really well as unit. Because this unit is going to be different, right? And you know, there's a lot of production. So the unit will be different. So you kind of got to reform your own identity and you're re-hearned that silver bullet nickname and mantra. How many guys can look at our bell and just see if he's on a very good track. Is that it? What's his ceiling? It's just a lot. Right now he's locked in. He's done a great job becoming a leader.

2:30:56Coming out of his shell. I think I think for belly, it's all about his consistency and just preparation. And I'm proud of our bell. You know, he's through the season. You got way better at, you know, a lot of it's little things. Just note taking stuff. Like sometimes these kids are always on their phones and stuff, not like the meeting rooms or anything like that, but just naturally. So like to get out of pen and paper and like, you hear things and I mean, oh, yeah, I got it. What you do until you're dog tired and then you forget because you know what I mean, but when you really understand it, you know what I mean? Like go play faster. He got so much better through the year. Just a lot of that's because of Cody, like becoming a pro. And then now it's like Sonny's pulling him along. He's pulling paint along the paint. He's pulling TJ and Riley and Eli. So I can still like, so I kind of love the competition room right now. And then the way it's made up. Yeah, he's on a great path. How many different guys do you feel like can be in that Mike's spot? Three years. But that was obviously losing Cody and now having that. I think that's something that's fluid as we kind of go.

2:31:59Because you know, week one, Sonny actually started out Mike for us. And Sonny's smart enough to play them all. Our bell is smart of the play them all. And that's also like, how did you like depends on what what scheme you're running the where they how do they being utilized as well? You know what I mean? So you say my backer, you know, whether it's Tommy, I can very grow up in research, two different people and Cody's different than those two. So I challenged to like a lot of the guys that come in. So you got the other both the more you understand about the scheme in general. The faster you will play, you know what I mean? Like if I just sit here and I say, Hey, I got a lot of Mike. My drop is this and that's all I need to know. Well, no, football happens so fast and all the shifts and motions that like, if you're out there just playing and you're waiting for a call and you're just reacting, like you're so worried about what's going on on your side of the ball. You don't even recognize that the offense is telling you something's what they're doing.

2:33:00So if I'm out there and also I'm not getting a call, I know what the call should be. It's like, Hey, are we playing? You know, let's go. Now listen, you get it. You can look. I can see, okay, here's what the tight ends doing. That's what the backs doing. Here's what plays are coming. If you just line up and play, it's rather passive every time. Like you know, stand a chance. You got to eliminate plays in your mind by seeing what the offense is doing. Like they tell you the story every time they line up, they just window dressing. People motion and she knows to try. They're trying to do man's own indicators and they're trying to make sure that they're getting the same formation. They're on the same place, but they just shift the people in the emotion. They move and they don't want you to recognize it. So we're always worried about what work you don't mean. So the more you know, that's you can play. You're not sitting there thinking, Oh, what do I have for you? You're reacting. So I know you have. So my challenge to guys, like, there's always a no both. So I think a lot of just beyond on depth of shirt guys and get, you know, if sunnies only doing 50 to 75% of the plays and probably more guys get more will reps than they had because we need more will bodies. That's technically where sun is started.

2:34:01But we'll rotate them through. Let the production kind of show what it does. And I think sometimes, you know, you'll live with some of the stakes just from being a news spot. But you'll be able to judge to like who's actually getting in the book. You know, I mean, who's actually studying? How much of a break have you seen from sunny this time of year ago through the national championship game? And then what's next? Man, I mean, definitely, I know, I know sunny has big goals and you should. I do as well for him and to see how far he's come, you know, first thing kind of stands out is just like his, his footwork has gotten so much better. You know, when you're in the boxes and linebacker, you got to be able to remember Luke's pick, he's to say it all the time, and you got to be slow until it's time to be fast. And when you're twitchy like he is, a lot of times, you know, when you're about safety, you're used to pulling your children and rolling like you got to learn how to shuffle and not cross over. And he got so much better as a year or not.

2:35:01I think a lot of people question whether he'd be able to hold up his cowly wise and, you know, he was, he was great. You know, he's the season guy. He's really good with his hands. He's a really natural ability to snag. We'll keep challenging him. I think he should be a dominant guy in coverage. Like he needs to be a guy that we can put on a tight end and be like, he's not going to be in touch with the ball. You know what I mean? Because he has that athleticism. I think we need to challenge him there. Challenge him. I think everything is just, this is not just sunny. It's everybody's urgency and zone coverage. I mean, the urgency with you have to break on the football to close that space. Not that the ball carrier have so much space on you to cut making this is critical. I think sometimes he's he can be so athletic that, you know, you can get away some stuff. And he knows anything that I'm saying right now that hearing knows. So the best part is a lot of times like he'll come to me before film and already said, man coach on that play. I should have, you know what I mean? Like he knows. And the best part is that he's humble enough. Our whole room is that they just want to be, they want to be pushed and they want to be coached.

2:36:03And so the heck of a rascal you asked for, right? Like, how is that like what do you need for me? Just, just keep making sure like you're pushing it. You're going to settle. You know, let me settle. So he's probably the best in the room with that. Do you look at sunny and our bell and paint this kind of your top of the guys right now? Yeah, I mean, I think going into it, you know, I think it's sunny or well. Pain's right up there in that mix. You're accurate there. And then it's like, who else is going to emerge from really the fourth, the fourth guy? You know, I think that's a healthy way to put it. Yeah, I just, I think our, I think our backers are so competitive, so competitive that it's, you know, like I know Peyton Pierce is chomping at the bit. I know that he's going to push, you know, Vell and Sonny. I know that you look, look at Riley and TJ and Eli and Stove. Like those guys are going to add it. We do these work guys. Those guys are going at it and it's constant.

2:37:04You know, I mean, they're trying to fight each other everything. So it's a reality of it is they're fighting for reps, right? So this game is hard. It's winter loose every single day. And, you know, a lot of the guys are going to make our break and it starts with the mental preparation to be honest with you. And because that's what trust starts, right? If you don't know what you're doing, I can't put you out there. Who preps mentally as we get rolling and then the physical part of that. But let's say it says, it's Sonny Arbella and Peyton probably have probably the top three. And then, but like I always say, it's always fluid. It's always fluid. I haven't done this. You know, it's funny. There was one coach who said that I forget what kind of felt he knew was. But he said that what he does is he has the depth chart. Sit in the front of the room. So like if you're a starter, you're the first to grow, you know, and then the second row and these like it'll change weekly. Sometimes they'll camp. I like it. I can't do that. I got it. I'm not sure they can handle that.

2:38:04Good. Brian, two things. I want to be being available, but not necessarily playing today. What happened with there? And then also, what was the evaluation we will at halftime? Yeah, well, it's good to go. Just took a shot there as you guys saw. A tie league was available. He was going to be was available in emergency role. We felt like we needed them. We were going to put them in the game. He was cleared. But felt like one more week, almost like the dawn of the situation. One more week of rest, you know, we'll get him to 100%, which we felt like was the right thing to do. If we needed to, we could have put him in the game. We decided we didn't need him. Yeah, just a general overview of how you feel about this game, you know, first row game, first big 10 game, went about 38 seven. And then, of course, the turnover shall force. And the stoppage there on a fourth down when they were deep in your territory. Just how much of those those loom huge, I guess. Oh, yeah. I mean, the turnover battle was huge in this game.

2:39:05And, you know, if we don't get those turnovers, you know, maybe it's a different game for sure. But that's the game and, you know, we got to make sure we win in the situations. So, you know, we'll take a look at the film and figure out where it's at. But I thought the atmosphere was was excellent early on. I thought, you know, they came out and played really, really hard. I think again, Jonathan's doing a really good job of, you know, putting his culture into his thumbprint on the program here. You can see it going. And that a lot of respect for him and his staff. But I thought our guys responded well. And had some really good poise. That was something that we talked about coming into the game. Having poise in the noise, you know, getting down in there. Some of those fourth down conversions are pretty clutch. You talk about that poise will start off really well. And maybe kind of had a little rust by it. I had a couple of passes and I'm sure he went back one. Obviously, that he went back. What was your assessment of just the poise that he showed and kind of settled down on that following drive? And answered back, right back. Yeah, I mean, the biggest one was the interception. You know, he knows. That was not a good play.

2:40:05And it could have cost us. So something to learn from. You said to move on from it and, you know, work through his progression there. But, you know, when you're going through, you know, learning a new offense and everything is going to be some of these growing opportunities and learning from those opportunities. So, but overall, I thought he was solid. He was poised. Made some big, big, big throws. And then, you know, a couple runs, a couple of tough runs in there. You know, you can see what a difference it makes when you have somebody who can run. I would do that very many. What has allowed Jeremiah to at least match the expectations that came in for him so far? That is work ethic. He does it every day in practice. I mean, just doesn't say a word, but works. Just tail off. He's disciplined, this humility. He loves being a buckeye. You can tell just the way he works with his teammates. And he's coming out of his shell a little bit too, which is great to see. But, I mean, the talent speaks for itself. I just am impressive that this is one of the hard work and being able to step in at such a young age.

2:41:06The only way you do that is if you go in and put the work in. And he came in with that work ethic. Brian certainly taken it from there, but this is a special event. Yeah, Ryan, we talk about Jeremiah Smith and how special he is. But Caleb Downes on defense was just was pretty incredible. Pretty impressive. What's it like to have when things are a little clunky? You've got a guy that can make NFL plays on both sides of ball. I thought Caleb played great tonight. I showed up in a big way on a bunch of different spots. And you can see the acceleration how fast he plays. And a part of that is his athleticism, but another part is just the way he prepares. I mean, he prepares as hard as anybody on our team. And, you know, he was, he was all over the place tonight. And he made a huge difference. And he said in kind of turning that point where they were moving the ball some. And he got it. He got us going a little bit back there and no, those are some big plays. And then I think it kind of felt like it turned the momentum for us on defense. Do you want to play the football memory here? I have a better old one. Ryan, what does it say? I know you've already touched on a little bit.

2:42:06What does it say about Devon to be able to come in and deliver that kind of pass? That was a clutch play. It was a clutch play. He put it there and you know, we told them, you know, if you have the opportunity to throw it, rip it. Only throw it where, you know, the receiver can catch it. You know, we had a couple of different options there. If, if, if nothing was there, just throw it out of bounds and kick the field goal. And he did that and he gave him a chance. And, and so it was good. It was good to see him make that play in that big spot. Did you have a few goals? Did you have one? Ryan, two things on Trey. I know you got a little, he kind of went up to the field after he got hit there and put them all dead and all. But just kind of how's he doing it? And then two, just how much drove you've seen from him specifically in the past, from inside of things? And then he got some great pickups, huge pickups. The one on the touchdown in Jeremiah and the touchdown to Omega. And there was a couple more. He did a really good job coming across. I got to watch the film, but I just like three of them, particularly. I, he came across and picked up some corner fires and did a nice job. That was big. He's, he's becoming that all purpose back that, you know, we all know he can be.

2:43:06And, you know, again, I thought they ran hard. But, yeah, I mean, you know, I think where we are right now is, is we're making progress. But we got a long way to go. You know, and I think that, you know, our guys have that mindset. It was good to get this win on the road, first road win, good environment. But, you know, we know that the challenges are bigger ahead. So we're going to get on this film. It's they hungry and, you know, keep the journey going. But, you know, we're going to get back to work tomorrow. And we know that we got a really good Iowa team coming in here next week. They have had a week off. Just like always, they're, they're a very, very good team. Play complimentary football. And so we know we got a big challenge ahead of us. So we got to have a great week of practice. You're a lot of fun to go to the LA in the play for 70 more. Yeah, coach. Just want to ask you, the play calling, particularly there, the end around to Jeremiah, just feels like when you guys get into a bit of a spot, you guys have a wrinkle. You have something that's coming. Is this chip? Is this you collaborating? Just what do you say? That one seemed to catch them really flat footed on that play.

2:44:06Yeah, no. It's everybody on the staff. There's this collaboration. But chips got a great feel for it for the game and calling the plays. And it was always, you know, have some wrinkles in there. We've got a few other ones that we, you know, we held off on. But I think it's, it's a balance of making sure that you have your fastballs, where you're running downhill and you feel really good about them, but having enough curveballs that, you know, we can create explosive plays. And that's, that's that balance you're constantly looking for. But we always want to try to find ways to get, you know, the ball to our playmakers in space. And we're going to keep trying to do that. And to get the responsibility, getting everybody lined up, getting the call, but knowing my assignment, it's like, I didn't know how it's going to go. But it's just like, up to you, a little bit more. So it's going to take some getting used to, but I know, I know I'm really. How much do you think that's going to help you in the ball? What? Being a bike. I think it's going to be good. Being able to, being able to roam around and just taking charges. I'm definitely used to that and comfortable with that. So I feel like it's going to be good for me in the ball. Can I help you learn a defensive scheme faster to have that much responsibility?

2:45:06Yeah, for sure. Knowing what everybody's doing and everybody's responsibility is getting the how we play better. What's the typical day like 42 pressure middle lineback and trying to learn the deep points off the practice field? Off the practice field. Just waking up and getting there early. Probably watching the film. You know, we got practice or weight. So we're not getting through that. I mean, we got meetings, so more, more the game knowledge. We got an individual meeting. So just learning to learn that more. And then after that, after that, we got class and stuff. So after class, we definitely got to stay on the film some more. What film are you watching? What do you watch? Oh, practice film. Practice film. Like your film? Yeah. Knowing what I did wrong, what I could improve on and learn new installs. All of your tricks physically since a role. I definitely got a little bit stronger for sure. Speed. Speed a little bit faster. You came in at what and you are at what now as far as weight?

2:46:07I came in at 212. I'm at 212. What's the target weight? You have a certain technical you're trying to get there. Right now, 233. Doesn't take make long day. You guys wouldn't want to be, right? What are your expectations for your pressure? Every time you get to get some talk to James Lauren, I say it's nice to say about you. What are your expectations for your first two? Just getting on a field and making plays. I feel like that's a good experience for me. I just want to get out there and make plays. Describe your game. It's a long backer. I think I can do a little bit of everything I can cover. I can rest past it. I can play to run to. I think those are all my strengths. I think my screenplay is faster. I think I think I see things. When that's usually a big Texas flavor on this team, a lot of Texas guys has. It's been like here for like the last 10 years. That's got to make you feel kind of home. Yeah, I talk more about that if you would. Just Texas guys, you know, football is really big in Texas.

2:47:10So with that Texas Ohio pipeline, I'm knowing I got guys from Texas. I love it. You'll stick to the pre-proc. I'm the goal line. You open up with a long horse, start your collegiate career. Thank you Peter. A little expert in dancing. Thanks for that. What is it just inspired you to see what Cody Simon was able to do here last year? Not only as a player, but as a leader. That's definitely something I look forward to becoming. Being able to do those things. That Cody did. The way he played, all the plays. I feel like it's a good aim for me. What kind of example is sunny setting for a group right now? Sunny, the position, his switch from safety to my back. I feel like the way that he played last year, being his first year of my back. I feel like if he could do it, I could do it. So that's definitely good example. Do you have a lot of experience playing safety? Yes, I feel like it's a good impression. You know, I'm an actor. I mean, we're all, like I said, we're all pretty much interchangeable.

2:48:12If I need to go to left guard center, whatever, but I need to go to center, look forward. However, you know, it's not really like a big shocker moment. You know, we train for this. We're prepared for this. So when it happens, we're able to execute. Why don't you try that, you'd be making the switch. To left guard. I think half time. Well, coming in. It's a rookie in the crowd and the noise. And I know you said, you guys all trained for this, but what can you tell us about how he can do? Yeah, I mean, he's a man. You know, he's built for this moment. He's done it for his whole life. So, you know, at the end of the day, it's just a game. And we keep on, we keep trying to keep everybody calm, calm, collected. And, you know, we're five as one. We help each other out. And whenever, you know, we need to, we do it. So he was ready. He was built for it. He's going to be a great player. You're obviously no stranger to Matthew's toughness. What was the like just seeing the way he let this off? That guy's a warrior. You know, 36 years old.

2:49:13He's taken some hits and some things and some dents. So, when he's able to get back up and keep it rolling, you know, he's still got that fire to him. You know, we love having him back there. Sean has always said after a loss going by the team, beat you twice. But to have the lead late in the game, it's all the injuries and not win. You describe that level of frustration. I mean, it's the NFL. Comes down to seconds and inches. And you've seen it all through past couple of days in today. And I'm going to kind of down to the little things. And you know, we'll see him again. And I apologize if you were asked this, but what was it like for you personally to walk on to the front of the head? It was kind of surreal, man. It was nice, it was all emotional seeing everybody. I wasn't a kid when I came here, but you know, I grew into more of a man. And these people here have definitely helped lay that blueprint for me. Help me out big time. You know, I can't thank them enough for that. You know, you've looked at film yet, and how you feel about the D. I feel really good, you know, saying it could be because everything, careful all summer,

2:50:13and OTA is showing up. You know, we stood out ground. We came up short a little bit, but in that end day, you know, it's a lot of the way I'm from. I see a bright future for us. I think that thing on the overtime drive, I mean, you guys have been stopping them, and they just seem to kind of get a role. Yeah, you know, you know, just something that we just need work on, you know, got to play around better on that, and just kind of eliminate the big plays. That's all that it comes down to, but overall, I just felt like we just came up short on that. So, as the offense is kind of struggling to find its footing early in the game, what did you guys feel like you had to do as a QF? I feel like we just need to step up, you know, I know they would have come through and have our back. So, I just tell them to office, you know, we got y'all back, you know, just keep going, y'all doing what we want to keep on trying to hold on the best we can. Are you ready to plop off of bigger performance in this game? Yeah, definitely. I feel like, you know, as a whole, everybody on the offense can contribute, and, you know, we have a lot of great playmakers on our team, and our coach will definitely find ways to get us all to ball and get in the best position to score.

2:51:13Define Craigson, please calm down. Were you grew up in a CC country? Did you have any interest? Did you think you could make it to the Rose Bowl one day, and want to play the Rose Bowl one day? I would say, yeah, definitely. As a competitor, that's something that you compete for, to, especially as a team player, you know, to be at the top level, to go to the playoffs and be in this position. So, I wouldn't say I would have guessed I would be here in this position now, but definitely I wanted to be in this spot. There were minutes on the fifth batch. We'll have the moment to the end of the game. He thinks about Jeremiah's same thing. He went the play early in the game with a fumble. I mean, great play by the defense of the play. How much do you think about that? How do you think about that play where you replay it? Come on. You know, that's past us now. You know, that game is past us. We're looking forward to how we can come up this week coming up in win this game. And that's all that really matters, you know, as a whole, as a team. Everybody has that same mindset, that same grit, and that same passion. So, that's all that matters. That might be 24,000-4. Quick, you guys had some pretty clear motivational factors coming out of Michigan,

2:52:17going into Tennessee with three weeks of a lot of talk. How do you keep that same kind of mental edge now going into this game? Or maybe there's more people talking positive about you than you? Yeah, definitely. Everyone just keeps the same mindset that we had going into where we are now. We all have a big goal in mind, and we know what that goal is. So, whatever it takes to stay focused, that's what we're going to do. Awesome. Or a podcast, which on the way that you and Tray found stuff that worked with last week, was that sort of the perfect design of what you guys envisioned a year ago, or you started looking at this opportunity? Definitely. I would say, you know, our coach has done such a great job at that. Just getting me in there in different positions on the field, and just trying to be in the top player, you know, whoever is on the field, you know, we're both going to do our job. So, I'll move forward to it. Tony Gervin, Bucket Hollow. You try to do your games to focus on. I have you thought about what's going to happen next year, where are you going to be? No, as a right now, I'm just looking forward to this next game and trying to win it all.

2:53:19Any help for Quint Tron? Kevin Noon. Bucket Hollow. I know it's looking back, but you didn't have a chance to ask you. What's going through your mind on the first drive, where your first touchdown is, when the exchange between you and Will, you've been the ball on your end? What, what, what is the thought there? I actually thought he was going to pull it a ball, and I kind of felt it, and I just got an instinct, so I just kind of grabbed it and just took it my best. Any help for Quint Tron? Great, Quint Tron, thank you very much. Thanks, I mean, there's always people that's going to be coming in and trying to do what you did in the past, so I'm looking forward to it, and like I said, I mean, we're just all excited to go out there and get caught. Okay, well, anyway, the fact that the way that this student says additions on every level, you know, talk about chasing other people to blind, and up the traffic there, you guys have Will, and the second level, and the third level, who they go on with Sean,

2:54:20and the first of them, how much pressure is Will's defense to perform to the higher level of expectation of the last one? Right, I would say that last year was, you know, we excelled in certain things, but we were also trying to get back to where we were in the past, so we got some great additions, and we're excited for that. Ultimately, it's to use some of these guys to be the number one defense in the league, and that's always going to be the goal. So whatever we can do to utilize all the different talent that we have on this team to be the best and play as a team, and to build the best chemistry that we got, that's what we're going to do. Which hands out about just offense? Just early, this early in the game, which hands out about offense? Yeah, we're not used to going against the normal offense I have been the past three years, so it's been a lot more moving pieces. I definitely have to use your eyes pretty well because if not, then somebody's going to be open.

2:55:20But I like what they're doing. I'm very excited for it. I just know it's making our defense a little bit better because we're having to do different things, not just the normal offense we've been used to. That was going to say just because every other team has some variations that they were in this game, does that kind of do you think that would kind of benefit you because you've seen that more than the rest of it? I would say so. I mean, as the league has changed over time, I think they revert to certain offenses that do well in certain systems. I would say we're taking maybe a little bit pieces from other offense that we see to do well. So I like what we're doing. I mean, I don't know as much as some of these quarterbacks that we have on the team, some of the offensive players, but I just know it's tough to go against. Hello, second number last year, but still one of the top teams scored in the defense. What do you guys really need to do to finish after the quarterback? Yeah, I would just say place heavy emphasis in practice. It's always going to start in practice with getting after the quarterback, not touching him in practice,

2:56:24but making some good moves. I would just say rush more. I mean, there's so much that goes into it and goes with the coverage. Everybody works together. I would say that we had great numbers, but we are trying to get that number up, but the ultimate goal is always going to be the ball. Getting the ball taken away, getting off the field, or putting our offense out there on the field, and more staying off, that means that we're doing a good job. And you already asked about it from my competition standpoint, from my electric standpoint, having new wins tomorrow, we're going to build a few. What kind of a trio can do for a defense? The sky's the limit with this group. I do believe we have one of the most talented linebacker, core groups in the league. So just excited what we're going to be able to do out there on the field. I think we all compliment each other super well, bigger guys that are explosive. So I'm excited for it. And also, I want to take a moment and thank and show respect for Coach Farrant,

2:57:29and what he's been able to do at Iowa. It's unbelievable. In some ways, it's sad that 11 years has become the exception in college football, but what he's been able to do at the University of Iowa is super impressive. And I wanted to congratulate him and all his success. So open up to questions. We got first row on your right side. Kenneth Berry, touchdowns, and tangents. Hey, Kenneth. How's it going, good morning, Coach? And all your years, you look about at the Vanderbilt year, where you guys had a record-breaking season, you look at the role's bowl, and with St. Quann and everything. How close do you feel like this team is? And how much do you feel like they mirror the character and the identity of those teams? And this being your 11th year in the conference, how good is the field seeing the influx of African American head coaches, not only just getting jobs across the landscape,

2:58:30but the Big Ten pretty much leading all of the conferences with the number of African American head coaches that are currently present? Yeah, I'll answer the second part first. You know, I love the fact that Big Ten, the Big Ten is one of the leaders in this space. I think that sends a very, very clear and loud message that people are going to be judged by their work and their production. And I think the Big Ten is a great example of that. Obviously, something that myself and Mike Loxley and a lot of the guys take a ton of pride and have done a ton of work on his well. And hopefully that becomes more of the trend across college football as well as the NFL. Just spent some time the other day with Raheem Mars, who is one of my best friends. He was the defensive coordinator at Kansas State when I was the offensive coordinator. And he's now the head coach of the Atlanta Falcons getting a second chance, which is also not common.

2:59:30So I think that's powerful. And then, you know, about our team and maybe some of the similarities to some of the teams that we had at Vanderbilt and over our time at Penn State as well. I think it starts with the three gentlemen that we brought with us, you know, to this event. Guys that are experienced guys, guys that have had a ton of success on the football field. They've handled themselves the right way academically on and off the field. And have won a ton of games. You know, they're guys that embrace that were in a place like Penn State where we've been able to consistently for the most part when ten to were 11 games. But that's not the expectation at Penn State. They chose Penn State just like I chose Penn State to compete for championships. And we embrace that. But we are one of the few programs in the country. You can win ten or eleven games and people are unhappy. So we embrace that. We're excited about those opportunities. And it starts for us at West Virginia in Morgan Town, which is going to be a challenging opening game.

3:00:33First row here. Good morning, coach. Nick Hamilton, nightcast media. Hey Nick. How you doing? Good. I want to ask you about Abdul Carter, him changing positions from linebacker to defensive. And how much do you feel like that will strengthen your defense this season? And also, how does that play Kate as far as throughout the locker room as far as taking that type of role? Being a leader in the locker room? Yeah. So I think first thing is he'll play both. We have the flexibility to play him at both positions. He's one of the unique athletes that was playing linebacker at 250 pounds. And you never know how that transition is going to go playing in space at the linebacker position compared to moving up to the line of scrimmage and having to go against offensive tackles. He made the adjustment pretty quickly. And at the end of the day, you're talking about one of the more explosive physical athletes in all of college football.

3:01:37So we think he's got a chance to make a significant impact week to week. We'll decide where he's going to have the most impact for us. Whether it's on the line of scrimmage at defensive end or in the linebacker position this spring. He stayed mainly at defensive end and get comfortable with that. And then after that, we had a really good conversation. He's open to doing both. That'll also put us in a position where people can't gain playing and know exactly where he's going to be on the defense. So we're excited about that. But he's really grown up. I'm proud of him and his development academically as a student athlete, as well as a football player. And we need him and expect for him to have a huge year for us. Got a very, very close relationship with him and his father. And I'm proud of him and excited about what he's going to do this year. On your left side. James Bill Rabino, what's in the Columbus dispatch? Hey, Bill. You got Julian Fleming as a transfer for Ohio State.

3:02:38How excited are you to have him? What kind of impact do you expect him to have for receivers unit of it? It wasn't all that explosive pressure. Yeah, he's a veteran guy that's played in this conference. He knows what it's all about. Obviously, you know, we got a ton of history with him and his family. Recruited them very heavily out of high school. But he's thriving. You know, he's very comfortable. He's very confident. He really came. Got on campus. Like most guys should do. Kept his mouth shut, worked, earned everybody's respect through that first. And now he's really developing into a leader for us. His improvement from the end of spring to now. He is healthy and lean and explosive and fast right now. And just from the feedback from the players over to summer. He's really done a nice job. Looking all the metrics and the numbers from our strength staff is in a really good position.

3:03:39I think he's got a huge chip on his shoulder. And excited about the opportunity at Penn State. And has really turned into one of the leaders in that wide receiver room. So we're happy to have him and expect for him to do some big things for us this year. And I appreciate the question. Last year on your right side. Coach Franklin, Kyle Golik, Mike Ferrell sports. Hey, Kyle. Hey, how are you? Good. Tell Mike I said hi. We'll do. Hey, you mentioned earlier about Southern Kyle, Oregon, UCLA, Washington. Joining the league after the 2018 Ohio State game. You had your what I refer to as the epic good to great to elite brand. So with these teams coming in, where do you feel Penn State stands in the pecking order? And a follow up if you don't feel Penn State's quite at it. Elite, where do you what do you think the Nitenly lines have to do to achieve the elite status?

3:04:40Yeah, I would describe it as a speech, not a rant, first of all. But no, I think, you know, again, back to the comment earlier, you're talking about a program that you can win 10 or 11 games. And and and people are not happier satisfied. And that's inside the lash building. And that's outside of the lash building. We totally get that and embrace that. I think our players understand that when we recruit them, our staff understands that when we hire them. And as the head coach, I embrace all those things as well. I think week in and week out, the big 10 is arguably the best conference in all of college football. I've been fortunate to be a head coach in the SEC as well as the big 10. So I think I got good, I got good perspective on that. And then like you mentioned, adding the four new schools makes it even more challenging. So we'll have an opportunity to figure that out and figure that out real quick starting at West Virginia.

3:05:40We're fortunate to play most of those teams that we discussed. We want to play those teams that you discussed, both that have been in the conference historically as well as that have been added. For us, we got to play our best when our best is needed most in the biggest games at the biggest moments. And I think if you look at us specifically last year, did some phenomenal things, that's the step that we need to take in having a returning starting quarterback obviously helps with that. We're a quarterback driven game, whether it's in the NFL college or high school, and having a returning quarterback at that position that did some phenomenal things. I think he was second in touchdown, the interception ratio. I think he broke the national record in completions without an interception. So did some phenomenal things and we got to build on that. And then I think the pieces that are puzzle around him, tight end, running back.

3:06:41And then receivers been the big question mark really since last year. We got a ton of confidence in that room. Those guys got a huge chip on their shoulder back to the question earlier about the addition of Julian Fleming as well as the guys in that room. They've had a great summer and we got a ton of confidence of what they're going to do this year. We're going to have to play well early on, build confidence and carry that confidence throughout the season. Coach Franklin, thank you so much for your time. Thank you, sir. Does it really? Wow. You know, it's impressive. What do you say to the big tip? I guess it's just natural. I don't know. I just like, how do you explain that? Yeah, I mean, I don't know. I mean, I don't know how he visualizes, but he just gets it done, you know. What we do that first drive in the second half when they drive all the way down the field, you have that past deflection and the end zone. Yeah. What's kind of going through your head? I know you want to limit it to three if anything.

3:07:41Yeah. Are you limited to zero instead? Yeah. Well, just just just tendencies going throughout the week, being prepared. I kind of had a good feeling, you know, being a work on the field. I kind of figured he was going to pick on me, so I was high alert all week. Do you know the last time that the Cardinals as an organization did not allow a touchdown in three straight home games? No, I didn't even know that's crazy. No, yeah, I feel like, man, that just speaks to the leaders that we have in our, our divas of room, man. They really take this game serious, and I really appreciate that. That was 1926, that was the last time that the Cardinals had out on. It used to it, man. We got some cooking out here, man. You ready to take this thing? I'm just going to switch to the other one. Man, I was just playing bar, man. It's kind of crazy because games like this, when you just leave the field, you're just like, wow, man. We're just playing bars, so I can't even walk you through the play-by-play, man. I was just, you know, locked in the other guys playing on me today. And I don't want to be the weakest league, man. JT was down, and me coming in, there should be no drop-off, and it wasn't, so.

3:08:41Man, it was crazy, but I couldn't stop smiling in the locker room earlier, and I found out. So it was just a real moment, man. And my older guys got me ready for this moment, so that's off to them. It was a meeting with my biggest defense, but it was so much fun. You guys are playing right now. Man, I bring violence to the game, and they bring it with me, man. So I told my group before we went out to the day, man. We seeing red all day today, and that's what we did, man. We had a great game today. It feels so good, man. I'm not going to lie, it feels amazing. You talk about that violence, that's what I think JG Prince is going to do. So long we can only get out of here. What does it say about you, man? Man, just the preparation we put in throughout the week, the way we practice, the way we take care of our bodies, the way that we meet, the way we communicate, man. It's like there's one heartbeat out there, man. And that's how it should be every week. Is it preparation that pre-game bill you make? I did have my spaghetti today, too, yeah. So yeah, I did. I told you I got to have every game, man. I don't feel the same. It's like, grab it, feel, man. It's preparation, man. The superstitions, man, the people having for the game, it's just, it's a mental thing.

3:09:41At the end of the day, it's ball. Ball's always going to be ball, so. So real quick, can you just take a sip of what it said against the pre-game bill? I get the spaghetti. They ain't had a pepper flakes for the pomegranate, so I just had ranch today, yeah. But yeah. Forgetting and ranch, man. They'd be saying it's nasty, but I think it's good. Yeah. You think the mindset team needs to try that? So, I don't think everybody knows it, but if somebody did ask, I recommend you. But you can't put too much ranch or too little ranch. You got to have a good proportion on it. So ranch on pizza. Oh, ranch on everything. Ranch on everything. If I'm at the house, I'm putting ranch on my steak. I can't do that steak house, but if I'm at the house, I'm doing it, yeah. Yeah. It's like catching fire. You know, I've done some great things at Ole Miss, and I've learned a lot. But I think just for me and my third year, you know, you want to be somewhere in a place like Ohio State, like I said, great culture, great teammates, great coaches, best players, and the best for him, based on who I am. So, you want to do the NFL draft at all rate on top of it, and be on the move you got.

3:10:44I mean, just as far as just being a player, you want to be around coaches that put you in a position to, you know, elevate yourself as a player and show more to your game. So I think Coach Gay and Coach O'Brien will do that for sure. How many of you just know where you're going to go and how you're going to go? Just being all around back, you know, like just doing it all, you know, not just being, running the ball inside the tennis tackle, or outside, you know, just being involved in the passing game, just showcasing everything I can do as a player. What are you seeing for you, Coach O'Brien? You know, I've seen Coach O'Brien, you know, what he coached, I played against Alabama in 2022. So I played against him and how he used to make his kids, and I've seen a lot of them being those things, and also his career with the Patriots as well. So seeing how he's coaching, you know, so good. How's he talking about, like, his role, the role that he's used to be with for the soft-man's dollar? Yeah, he's came and he spoke to the team about, you know, him as a coach, who he is,

3:11:44and how he plans to involve everyone and what his role is, so it's really good. I think I run tough. I'm very elusive, fast. You know, I have vision, patience. I can make people lose, I can run you over, I can catch up. You know, it's very different. So what's your strategy on your style? Well, I'm okay. I think just with Tradyon, we're kind of, I don't know how to explain it. I would say, you know, he's good at what he does, and I'm good at what I do. So you want to say that? Yes, I do. Which is kind of the thing, you know, I don't know. What makes you so hard to have? I think just my will, you know, my will to want to win the determination, beginning the end zone, and just put my team in. I came out of high school. You have envisioned your role that he has done online, sitting there, I have seen it.

3:12:46You know, actually, you know, I did not, you know, as you go through your journey through high school and through college, you don't know where you end up as. I'm just blessed, very thankful for everyone that has helped me to get through this, you know, this process to be here and I'm excited. This is a positive side of the Tradyon's oil base, you know, somewhere, you have success there, but you're able to then put kind of another chance before you go ahead and fill it. I feel like, you know, there's many things that are thrown out there as far as when players go into the portal and things that aren't true, but you know, it's actually more than that. Players just want to have a very great game and make sure they can see that. I imagine that people on the table, in the program, and the whole team, and the whole team, they're going to be in the same position. Yeah. Oh, we're kind of reacting to you. It was crazy, you know, a lot of different things that were a lot of different emotions, but it's a bit, it's a bit. So you understand it, you know, people won't always be happy for the decisions you make when it's best for yourself, like I said, and you're just excited to be here and do what I can and I wouldn't know.

3:13:53I suppose you should be. You know, definitely not a factor for me. I think just me as a player, I just played football at the end of the day. I go out there and contribute to what I can do for my team and that's what I'm going to say. How much did you know about big football coming in and how I'm looking to study if you had to pick up? You know, I did not know that it was this big of a factor. You know, you always see it on TV when they play games on Saturdays and it's big, it's a lot of fans, and like I said, everybody's passionate, but when you're here in it, it's a whole new ball game, so really excited. Did you have to just get past that at all and decide to come to the Big Ten school or, you know, with a northern part of the country, like was that an adjustment? No, not really. I would say it was probably just only a little cold, but other than that, though, it was an awesome process. I think that wasn't a factor for me. What do you take you about Wil Howard and kind of quarterback you took you? I think Wil Howard is a great quarterback. He's a great player. I see him as vision. He can use his legs. He can also throw as well.

3:14:56He's very smart and just looking at his film and what he's doing at Kansas State is awesome. For you to be running backwards, is it very good to be in that position because not only will he open it up for you also, but he also gives the receiver the chance to be able to be using the passman as well. You come from a place that has a pretty big round for you and I'll have to be at your home. Right. I'm going to come to a place where there's a drop of gravel. How much did you know about the highest position right there? It was a fun about me. I was a big top. I've always heard a lot about it. But to be here and you see how big it is, they got the clock in there with the countdown. It's serious. So I'm excited to be the team up North and that's what we're working for. You played a good film, man. Yeah, definitely a great player. Like I said, everyone who's come here, this portal class, great players from all around the different teams and Caleb personally, you know, you've done some great things at Alabama. I'm excited to have them. Right. I think when we played in a way more so, we're trying to, we had a different fall game plan.

3:16:01We're trying to throw the ball and he's very successful there. He's stopping it. That was pretty good. You're just, who are some of your favorite running backs that you like to watch? I like, I'm a Camara Christian McCaffrey. I would say also, I like Jemira Gibbs at Detroit as well. Just those three guys right there, doing some great things at the portal level. Those are guys who do a lot. You've already heard how it's happening. That's all around the game. How important is that as part of your game? I think it's definitely important, especially where the game is going with running backs in today's game. I think it's overall, you have to showcase what you can do. Not just ask. I'm running back in the back field, but also on the, in the slot or wherever, though you can call just but you, be able to execute. That's definitely important as well too. For me personally, that's something that's important for me personally, but because important is around that. So, I like I say like about NIL or different things that don't pertain to everybody's situation.

3:17:10It doesn't pertain to every single player, but a lot of people get that speculation as far as when people want to make certain decisions here in the portal. You know, it's always like that. I was a player, and I think you've been a specific A-L-M-S. And they make that decision on your strategy. So, you've been a very strong player, and I think that's something that I'm really looking forward to. I'm really looking forward to having you in that. How would you approach that? I think you're making this decision very, very sensitive to the field that you got to try. Yeah, you know, just do this whole process. You know, this is my first time ever going through this. I can say many things were saying, you know, just the rumors and all of those things, but I think just throughout this process, I've learned a lot. I'm very thankful for the support I've had for my family because it's throughout this process. And just to end up here in Ohio State, it's been awesome. Other than the weather, I'm sure you're just a trustee. Is it just walking in the air and seeing the rest of the people coming with the coffee? I wouldn't say that. I think it's just more so, you know, just the whole thing.

3:18:15Like, I would say just the other thing. That's what the more important thing is that it's going to be. I haven't. I recently just got here, so I haven't found too much like different places yet, because I've been trying to hold man and be acclimated, but I'm for sure for us a couple spots. What are your impressions of Will? I mean, I know that Stan's going to have a backfield potential in transfer. I mean, I'm running back here. I'm forwarding back at one of you guys to talk to him. I mean, through this, not recruiting process, but transfer process. Yeah, immediately when I got here, you know, me and Will, we've always been in contact. You know, like just checking on each other, hanging out, no matter what it is, just having that personal connection with each other, off the field, and having that relationship. So it's a great time. Did you ever, during the field of fishwoods try, when you were talking about thinking about coming with you? Like I said, like I think with the time that I was in the portal, it was such a short amount of time in the process. So I think, you know, just trying to decide on where I wanted to go.

3:19:17I wasn't really focused on contacting anyone. Have you been to Ohio? Have you been to Ohio? No. There have been a lot of it. Do you know where it was? Yeah. But nobody was, but I've never been. I actually think that it was the first time in the portal I had seven free lives. Yeah. What's that process like from life, from your point of view, where all that is, what's that life in that? Yeah, when everything, I agree. I think, you know, when everything's moving so fast, you have to stay poised as a player and focus on things that matter, and that will put you in the best position. And I think that's what it's really about for me in my process. What's your, what's your about the trail on the higher floor? What's that all factor on the youth starting to do with the game in 2015? Very bad. Yeah, you know, that definitely plays a factor, especially in today's game with the five span of running backs in the end. So I think that, you know, with the, like I said, the situation here just being able to come here and contribute to this game,

3:20:22doing what I can when you're not. Which, I mentioned. I think it's right. What's your advantage in creating for you? And your interest in the game? No, like I said, any way that I can contribute to this team and do what I can to show and execute, that's what matters. You mentioned your game in the other side of the game, the way that the trade is, and there's a little bit of carries up there too. Do you like that and do you think that that part of the curve, you know, is it from your back to your gala, you can't help it? Yeah, and not just that team as well. It's many other teams that do the same thing, you know, and I think it's just really special that what they've done together, just seeing how they play together, how far they come to see themselves, really special. Not just that, but how much carry the day in time last year, having a quarterback that can run or two running backs, and then is that how much does that expect you to have a side field with that option on the off-season? It's very exciting just to know we have so many weapons and so many different ways to win the game. So it's very exciting and I'm looking forward to it for sure. How do you start to rationalize that decision that you have to step back?

3:21:31I don't think it's something that you more so just specifically think of, but I think it's something that's important in today's game that has to be valued as well. Did you feel like you were overused at Old Man's side? I wouldn't really say overused. I don't think that's the way I think you know, just when you're playing, you don't focus on those different type of things, but you know, like I said, you know, really important. There was much made though about using what you were having and meeting with Coach Kidney, who was talking about the direction of the offense. How much of that was true, I thought I might ever say it. Was that any of that true or just, you know, what was that all about? I know it's just rumors, but I got to say man, like a lot of people, they won't be happy when you make certain decisions for yourself. Yeah, just a sign of being in it. Did you enter it thinking Ohio State, I just walked up here a second ago, but you probably went all over this, but when did Ohio State get on your radar? I'm not sure. I mean, immediately when I got in the portal, you know, I think like I said, this is the place that you want to go to, you know, a place where everyone's passionate and everyone wants to win here, you know, and there's a great culture and everyone is focusing down into something that's bigger than themselves, you know.

3:22:50Why wouldn't you want to do something like that? I mean, people are saying you and trivia in the same backfield and even having Dale in there, this might be the best running back through some in the country. Do you feel that way also in life? Definitely. I feel like, you know, with everyone in our room, they contribute in their own way, everyone's a great player in our room, so I definitely agree. I think more so for me it wasn't about like this is why I want to go immediately but I think that I wanted to make my process pretty short especially when I got in at a later time because I had to be in a road in school so I think just more so just figuring out where I wanted to go and you know making that decision as soon as possible. Just like I say the meetings what caused everything that I was showcased this is just the place that you want to make sure. Two quickies the name Quint Shawn, what was that company?

3:23:51That was big info on fans. I know but I mean what is your background? Of course you're referring to that. But I really don't know I've never asked my parents that question actually. And then the hair style, what's that? What's the juice? I came up with this hairstyle in a March of last year so I just decided when I was like okay I want to dye hair. So I just went with it. I got a lot of great company so I can't be the same. Bloss get more, Bloss get more fun or have more rights. I'll see more rights. I don't think you have to shift the atmosphere. It is neutral. It's a very nice year. How do you accept that and great to have? You know I embrace it well you know that's what everyone here works hard for. And that is the in goal you know it's not to get a certain amount of wins.

3:24:54That's the goal that's what everyone here wants to win the National Championship. So I take it seriously. Everyone here is audience. Whatever it takes to get that in here. That's what everyone's trying to do. You've got your set of different sections. What's that in both? What's the question? It's a good idea. I have a player like only you know what you're in here and I have a friend who has a friend. How did you kind of put all that all of them in the background? You know you don't focus on things like I say. The most important thing is playing football especially for me. I think that was something that I was focusing on. I was just going out there playing football and doing what I did. I'm sure you could have gone for a lot of places. The guy that is running fast is here. He'll be coming in and sharing the load with Tradya. You know I think just more so the situation here in La Conde state just coming here. Being not only with Tradya but just great players all around and being able to execute and contribute to the team and do what I can to help us win.

3:25:55Tell us what's most important. Was there any thought about like you know taking some tread off your tires like knowing that you have had something carries in the first two years? I think just like I said I can today's game that's something that is important for running back. You know to be able to value and to think about as far as the shelf life and things like that. But you know just in my situation come here that was the most important. What's your thank you? Thank you. The pig mentality of problem of instant gratification you know you can develop and grow. So and sometimes you may be a behind a guy that's a really good player is nothing wrong with developing and growing and playing when your time is right. And if the time is right right now is a freshman like what's your name? Did you play early? You know so we try to also sell that you know we care about them as people and try to prepare you for life after football. So it's bigger than just football. We're going to prepare you for life. Whether it's the NFL or on with a regular career in the workforce. We want you to prepare you as a young man and we try to sell that and preach that to the parents.

3:26:56With remain having that in fact you mentioned rolling all these different spots do you anticipate? You know there wasn't a lot of rotation among corner backs last year when everyone was healthy. Do you anticipate maybe rolling him through the rough guys here with the longer season potentially? Yeah we play it by ear. You know what I mean we see how goals by time we get in the camp but you know obviously he's earning his stripes. So you know what I mean when you earn your stripes you know a lot of job to create opportunities for you. You know what I mean we have to see how it goes with all that other stuff you know once we get closer to the season. And we're getting the game plan stuff but he's doing a great job and he's taking a great step forward. Tim, when you're the way that you've been building the room. The way you kind of just establish your room now it seems like it's been like the centerpieces of relationships and kind of building bonds. I'm curious is that something that you came in with the it's like a couple years ago with the intention of doing or is that something that you're like it's kind of been cultivated over the course of your time as a position coach here. No it's been there for a while I've been doing that for a long time. It's all about relationship. If you develop real relationship and you're authentic in your communication and you have honest feedback and you have direct teaching.

3:28:01The guys that have value and character and they appreciate that stuff they embrace that. So but they have to know you care and you have to know that it's real and they have to know that you're really concerned about where it being as a young man. And when you get close to him it's been a lot of time with him off the field. You can coach him hard. And you can say truthful things to him and then they embrace it and you have real conversation because you know the only goal is to help them get better as a young man. As you see computers go and those are told that the receiver was so far ahead and the border was going to kind of skew that evaluations on ice. How's that dynamic change in these two years as it's got older and you've been better even more counting? Yeah it's done balanced up a little bit now. That goes with great competition. We have the we go against the best receivers in college football. So that helps escalate your growth process because if you don't figure it out real fast you're getting embarrassed. So that competition but what happened with that I guys start competing I guys start growing I guys got better and now is even up a little bit so where you get really good work at practice today.

3:29:02You know what I mean so it's competitive is fun those guys both on both sides of all care about each other so it's great competition and they all real close. So you know what I mean is that stuff that gets us better that will prepare for Saturday. I think that's the same idea. The first day of practice actually the receivers kind of got them. Is that any kind of a good way to call me for this? No it's just competitive. It's going to be competitive man. They got the best group in the country that you're going to get every day so you have to bring it every day. You know what I mean so we got a great quarterback room. We got a great receiver room. The running backs are really good so when you out there going against them is deep. You have to be ready for it and obviously man we seeing a lot of good stuff with what goes day in Coach Kelly doing over there. So it prepares you a lot and it helps us grow. So why are you playing kind of an associate for green? Is that? Is the one that you're recruiting or a white or see your own kind of a part of your green? These are the guys you get to play against.

3:30:02Yeah all of that's because you know that's where you get better. Iron Shop is iron. So you know you get to see that every day of practice that helps you grow. There's no better thing to go against every day than to see that on a daily basis. I'm also near room massage storage. We're looking at to play that. We just moving a lot of guys around. We watch our practice we have a lot of guys in there right now. You know we pop out there are four different guys in there. Obviously Lorenzo's in there. Jameen is in there. Kyle Miles we have about four or five guys moving around. Right now we just try things out in spring ball. See what it fit. See what things work together. So it's going to probably be some more guys in there. You know we move it around and try to just get the right fit throughout the N and C. How it goes by time we get ready to start the season. What's the difference out about Calvin? He can run any strong. You know what I mean? He's fast. Very serious about his business. He's big. There's 200 pounds. He can run. He's strong. He's conscientious. You know what I mean? He's starting to grow and he's starting to get better with it. You know what I mean? So we look for big things for him in the spring. Tim what do you want to see from here? This spring. Keep competing. You know what I mean now he's made the transition competing today.

3:31:05You know what I mean? He's starting going in that transition. It's all just like I'm in your main last year. You throw him in the fire. You let him go. You compete. You go by time we get out of the end of training camp. It'll be them figured out. Yeah I want to. But now you just throw it all at him. compete. Continue to grow. Continue to learn. He has the skill set. He has the length. Now you just got to put it all together. And it takes time to do that. And hopefully you see that by the time we get in the training camp. It seems like a bit with your spring. It kind of clicked for the main last year. And you start to see it perform a little better in practice. Is that like a benchmark for where you want here and to be by the middle of spring? Does he have to be at a certain point where you wanted to start clicking? Yeah by the time you start getting about two weeks from now that last week. You know because it takes time because there's a lot of stuff going on. But you know by the time you get into that last week of spring ball. You look to start seeing the things that you look for show up. And then you know you get another evaluation again when you get into training camp. See if this stuff carried on to make sure we go up for starting in September. What's your assessment of growth that we've been made out of these? He's kind of got his feet under one defense. What do you like about him and that thing?

3:32:06He's very conscientious. He's smart. He can run. He's tough. He's made the adjustment because he's out of Europe on his belt. So now you can see he's not making a lot of mistakes. He can piece his real conscientious and he has a physical presence. So the growth has been really good and we look to continue that throughout spring. Coach, thank you very much. I can ask one more. You look at the came back like Denzel's a great example. That surprised you as you reflect on all these guys that came back late from the ransom. And they could have turned pro. No, the culture here is real. Coach, they does a great job of building the culture. Our room is close knit. The guys on defense are real close. Those guys want to come back. They have an agenda. You know, we want to come back. They want to come back and walk away with something. So it didn't shock me. But it's a good environment for them too. You know what I mean? You know, the guys come back. That's a testimony to the culture that's set here. Their brotherhood, their environment. And of course, they run the program for those do's to want to come back. Because we go at it. It's hard. It's not easy.

3:33:06It's not easy. What we do. So in fact, they come back and do that. It's a testament to how he runs the program. Coach, thank you very much. Thank you very much. I think my capability, what I'm capable of, and then like the personnel we have. Like I said, they're trying to get the best level on the field. So whatever that may be. So you can still try to figure that out. Just the point that the conversation is about. It may have been hard for you to keep your weight down to stay in something. Do you look bigger? How much have you changed physically? Are you allowed to just like finally eat now? I mean, last year I was eating regular like I was like two thirty to two thirty five the whole year last year. I don't know if people thought I was two twenty five, but I was like two thirty five sometimes last year. So it's not really like anything changed. Obviously I'm a graduate of the game some more weight. I'm listening heavier weight. It was different training to be a DB than training to be a linebacker. So you couldn't graduate with a little bigger. Are you embracing that different kind of training?

3:34:07Yeah, I love it. I love to be with the linebackers. I think with the DBs, sometimes especially in the weight room, I was expected to win. So when I won, I was like, oh, something won. But that was the linebacker now. It's more of a competition. You know what I'm saying? Not like any hits of the DBs. I'm two thirty going against someone who's two or five. You know what I'm saying? I'm expecting to win. So I love the competition. Cody said you came in and said, well, it's already bigger than most of the linebackers. Are you playing Will and Sam? How was the position? I've been working on both, yes. Is there any, like, fundamental difference between the two in terms of the same things? I mean, obviously the Samy more outside the box, outside the linebacker overhang. You can be walked up on the edge on the tight end. Will's more inside the box. I think the biggest difference from Sam and Will, Samy, you've got to be more outside sometimes during the slot with two. You know, but I think it's similar concepts because you can do the same thing in the boundary. It's almost more like the Samish or the field in the Will's at the boundary.

3:35:08So I think it's pretty similar, honestly. The only difference is that Sam, last year, I never really was an interior run fitter. Like in the A gap, you know, going A to B or whatever that might be. So that's a little different. But I mean, I think I got some of that experience at safety just from a few yards back. So like I said, the only difference really is now is just adjusting to less time. Yeah, Coach Melisid, you've come in from where you're coming from. You have a better perspective of what's going on. Because you played safe. Yeah, yeah. I feel like I have a great understanding of the defense. I think at safety, I kind of already knew what the linebacks are doing. So now what I'm really starting to learn is like exactly like every little detail what the D line's doing. That's not really what I didn't know every little aspect of it. I think I'm starting to learn that now because obviously the lineback you've got to be knowing that more. So I think when it's all said, I think we have a really, really good understanding of the defense and knowing exactly what everyone's doing. You feel like you're walking up there more in the midst of the defense too. And the lineback here sounds funny because you can drop in one minute, pass rush into your main.

3:36:10I think you can get some of that anyway. Yeah, actually said that I think you can say it'll be an linebacker in the play. You're almost in every play. Yeah. Obviously the play can run away from you. But you know, safety sometimes you're just back there playing every guest. You take two backbettles and it's a tackle. So I think yeah, a linebacker you're in the play more. More chance, more opportunities to make tackles. Can you feel comfortable there? I mean, what does that, you know, obviously your fans stand out like that? Yeah, I feel super comfortable with it. Like I said, I think it's just going to be adjustment. You know, obviously it's different playing from a five than it was from playing from like 10 last year. So I think it's an adjustment, but I'm super comfortable with it. So any of you caught here, dad, have you given you any advice on the new position? Oh, yeah, we watched tape all the time. We watched practice. You know, he was a high level linebacker. And I'm just getting started with this. He gets a little bit of footwork and stuff like that. But it's good. I get good teaching him. You know, obviously coach Lord Knight is great player, great teacher for him, coach Moe's. You know, he's a super smart football mind. So I'm getting great teaching all around. You live back, or everything happens quicker for you?

3:37:11How much did the experience playing some of that Sam's got? Fist or help with this? I think it helped a little bit. It's been like in terms of physical like being in the box now down on the line. But I do think the run fit as a will and Sam can be a little different. And in terms of like I said, like being into your fitter, like your 30 backer, you want to A, you get pools, like you're going to go spill it, so things like that. But I think I'm adjusting well. I think I'm picking up on stuff pretty fast. You know, there's still going to be a lot of stuff to work on though. Do you feel more pressure talking to the media with your brother sitting right there? Not at all. What do you think has been the biggest change from linebacker and safety to linebacker? I think the biggest change will probably be that 10 to 5. Because it's a big adjustment because everything's happening faster and you've got to react faster. And like I said, the waist and movements, I think footwork is huge. I think when you see the great linebackers, soon to play happens are going.

3:38:13They're not taking any waist steps or not fall stepping, things like that. So I think waist and movement and being able to see what's happening react to fast. It's been a big spin fitter between being on the same team with your brother. You know you got someone out there that's more than a teammate. We call each other brothers, but bloods a little thicker so that's always pretty cool. It's never 101. When he tells you something, he doesn't observe what you know it's coming from. Yeah, I think when you're blood like that, I think he's not scared of telling me the truth. Obviously guys here, we have tough love, but I think it's always going to be a little different when it's your brother. Because he going to keep it 100% blunt exactly what you need to hear and know what you want to hear. What's your advice on playing Dickel? Oh, for him? I mean, he just so out of lead of he got to keep trusting his instincts. I think he's going to be great. I think what's huge for him is like I said, the athletic ability. Speed, you know, he bliss off the edge.

3:39:14He's, he's, he's, he's been blessing super fast. And he's just great in coverage too. So I think something really good. I think I'm going to do a lot of different things, kind of like you see with hand caught. Obviously a little different body than a hand caught, but I think he's going to be really good at once. Except for not feeling he's needs, he's needs his time. Thank you. Great. What have you seen for Jayden? He's time. We saw him on Saturday, right? With the ones. With the two seems like he's making a little bit of his opportunity. Look at you. Yeah, he's been a guy that's been on the rise, you know, to me from where he was when he started spring ball to where he is now. He's made more plays at practice. His eye discipline is better. His understanding of the defense is better, which allows you to be able to play free and be able to play fast. So that's what I've seen so far. And I can, I expect that to continue. He's been great. He's been great. He's been great. He, first off, we do a thing where we track. How well you run to the ball every practice. One of the things that we grade, right? So you can talk about all the schematics that you want. Coach knows has all that. But if you're not running to the ball, you're not playing good defense, right?

3:40:15So we track that. And he's one of the guys that every single practice is one of our highest grade guys. He's been awesome from an effort standpoint first. Attitude, he's in early. He puts the work in. And he's made a bunch of plays out here. So now I'm excited about Jay on the client for sure. You're talking about running to the ball. You mean like he's ball hockey really well in the back end? Or is it like, there was a football running game or both? Yeah, so we're really tracking effort and how hard a guy's playing from there is what we do. But I would say this too. He's been around the ball a lot, right? Whether it's Ali running and he's downing the ball. And I'm going to break the runner, fitting gaps and things like that. And then he's got really good range in the post for the half too. So he's done a good job of both of those things. I guess all the above. Yeah. Yeah, I do. I do. And you know, it's been an opportunity for you have a couple guys that are out there. So you're able to continue to grow the depth and be able to see what guys can do. And you have increased reps from that standpoint. So I do feel confident. You know, I feel confident in the guys that, you know, how they've performed so far this spring.

3:41:18And the guys that haven't been out there, I feel confident from what their abilities are, what I've seen on film, and then the mental preparation from that standpoint. Now I'm going to go back to refer to, you know, what late then was like a couple of years ago and taking that same blueprint. Where's the real thing? That'll be so good. Yeah, he's done, I would say the mental side. I would say if you took, he has really good physical skills. You see him when he walks on the field. I mean, he's a, yeah, no doubt. I would say the mental side of the game, right? Really understanding what's the defense, what's my eye progression, where do I fit into this chess piece? You know, what's my chess piece in this whole match that's happening? And yeah, I've been pleased with him and he's putting the work in to make sure he understands what's going on. I would say we're not saying it's great, right? And because his preparation is so high level, it challenges you as a coach to be an elite teacher, right? Because he's going to be on his game, he's like coaching a professional player, right?

3:42:20He understands the concepts of the game so well. He's put so much time into it. As a coach, you better be matching or equaling that, right? Going above and beyond that, because if not, he's going to be a step ahead of the coach, right? So that's, it's been awesome to be able to push each other to make each other better. He's got a great understanding and feel for the game. He's a great young man. The work ethic is really high level. So every value that you would look for, not just for a skill or intangible thing, but who he is as a person, I can't say enough about who Caleb Downs is. It's been awesome. What's the next step for you to wait for me? I'm talking about the preparation that Caleb has. I'm just waiting for him coming back from your final. I'll say coming back from injury. What do you want to see from him? Maybe it's leadership. Maybe it's on the field. I don't know. What is it for you? Yeah, I think leadership is definitely something, right? He's a guy that's been there, done that. He has accomplished a lot, but not the goals that he wants to yet. So I would say from a leadership standpoint, holding guys accountable, and he's done that at a really high level. And then his own preparation. I've been impressed with, if you're not taking as many physical reps,

3:43:21one of the mental reps that you're taking, and he's done a really good job of having daily routine, putting the time in, making sure that he's conscious of me with everything. So I would say the off the field stuff is a step in the right direction. What did you take away from your experience like you as a coach for a year? Since we last saw you 95th through multiple spring practices, what did you learn, something in your time, or whether it's just for you as a coach that you brought here to bring the safety of your mission? Yeah, I think that you learn different ways to be able to do things whether it's taking the ball away or tackling methods, or the way that it's taught from other defensive coaches, so to learn from a different tree and thought process and philosophy. I try to, I pride myself on being a teacher, which means that you better always be learning. Right? You're getting behind. So I would say, yeah, just different ways to be able to maybe do similar techniques or things that have to be done from a defensive principle standpoint, and then bringing that to the table. As you step back and you say, okay, here's how I've always done it, or I've done it in the gym-null system,

3:44:22and then you're in a different defensive system, and how does that get executed, and then you can blend some of those or pick what you like from there. So a chance to reflect that, say. Did you feel like you accomplished what you wanted to away from the gym-null system to bring it back to the gym-null system? Yeah, I mean, any time that you're, no matter where you're coaching, right? You have principles of defense and a way to be able to play defense, whether you're how you tackle or how you play the red zone, or different things like that, and there's metrics to be able to track that, and some improvement was made. Not enough of my opinion. You only move, there were strides from that standpoint, and then, yeah, when you come back into it, you say, okay, the system here has developed in a year that I was gone, right? And then maybe I'm able to develop a little bit as a coach too, and from a positional coach or a coordinator mindset, things like that, and then you're able to mesh ideas and come back, and you learn, hey, what's the new that's happened over a year, and then I was able to see the big 10 from the different lengths as well. So I think that's valuable. Man, it's a lot of people are pushing down a few safeties on Saturday. Just kind of, how do you feel about your depth of that position right now?

3:45:22Yeah, it's something that, you know, we've addressed and say, hey, here's the guys that have played. Here's the guys that haven't played, who's taking the reps right now, and how do we grow those guys? You know, we're from Mass standpoint. So I think that's a work of progress every single day. So I've been pleased with the guys. I think there's been a, you know, steadily on the rise approach from everybody in the room. You know, so I've been pleased with the guys in the progress that they've made. So I feel good about it, and I expect that to continue throughout spring, and then continue throughout summer and into fall camp, you know, from Mass standpoint. Yeah. For some of those guys that haven't played much here, but you're seeing they can move the spring. Yeah, Jayden Bonzer has taken advantage of the opportunity that he's had, gentlemen, McLean's taken an opportunity, you know, advantage the opportunity. Inky had a really good day today. You know, it's taken advantage of the opportunity. So the guys that, you know, have taking reps, you know, I'm pleased with watching those guys, you know, continue to progress, you know. And the Caleb, I think, has, you know, learned our system and done really well, and gotten better every day. All right, thank you. Thanks. Appreciate it, guys.

3:46:24Coach Day's offense, and Chip Kelly's offense is the same offense. It's kind of neat going back to the roots and the origin. Maybe understanding a new twist or why he called it how we did. And it's been great for the Titans. I'll leave it at that, not to get too much in the scheme, but we've definitely benefited and me personally learning every day. Do you look at the relative experience for your career? Is that true? Coach, you've heard it in other years, the emergency intensity, the tuck-in shirt talk. Yeah, I think, you know, awesome. That's a great question. I hope not, right? I think the energy was still there with a guy like Kate. Now, again, it might have been, like I said earlier, it might have been, you know, the 3000 level course with Kate because he's ran that play for four years before I got him. Right now, it still might be the what do I got to do. And yeah, I mean, I hope the guys feel that the energy's picked up because the urgency has. I mean, eight number eights, not in the room anymore. Great. We're going to play somebody in a couple months, right? And there's got to be a tie-down out there.

3:47:24Hopefully it's two, hopefully three tie-downs out there. So hopefully they feel the urgency's picked up. They hear the room is structured. But G's been in the room for a long time. But it felt like year after year, it was fun. The better guy, the next one, the better guy, the next one. And that's something that's like dynamic in the right now. Is that the, you have to provide full leadership for the guys? You know what I mean? Is that after a couple of years? You just said the tone? Is that just G's job? You bet it's not going to work. Yeah, I don't know. I'm not going to put it all on G, right? But again, the leaders drive the culture. Now, whether it be G or whether it be Pat, if he's been here for a long time and played a lot of football, or whether it be Will came in and said, no, this is what it should look like. I mean, I want those guys to take it and run with it. You know, on Saturdays, I'm in the box. I'm not cutting off the C guys. It's got to come from them. Now, again, my job is coaches to make them hear things they don't want to hear. You know, pushing to do things they don't want to do. So I'm certainly going to do that at times. I'll keep doing it. But they've done a great job of driving the culture. Keenan, you were in the room with Kevin. Was in the offensive meeting room for so many years.

3:48:24Does having Chip kind of get you guys back to where you guys were with Kevin? I know that the room has an offensive staff. You guys were kind of young last year. And now to have Chip with that experience, is that kind of like what you guys have with Kevin? You know, some similarities. And I think the comparison is that we're talking about Kevin Wilson and Chip Kelly, or two of the brightest, you know, minds and offensive football in the last several decades. So I think there's some similarities there. But yeah, I think it's a Lounge Coach Day, maybe to delegate to Coach Kelly and let him be the best version of himself. And Coach Kelly's been an awesome leader, right? Of driving us and listening and providing input. So it's been great. I don't know if it's exactly like it was with Coach Wilson, but it feels great, however it is right now. Keenan, was there initially a bigger role expected for Jolani in the cotton bowl and did that not get to come to fruition as much as the way that came played out? You know, I don't remember exactly what, you know, the expectation was he was going to help contribute. And certainly we wanted him to contribute from the jump and keep him in there contributing.

3:49:24The game kind of started off, you know, not ideal. And we had Kate in there and, you know, that was his last game as a buck guy. So we felt comfortable riding out with him. But I think Jolani and everyone else is kind of focused going forward. Did you guys see him going through that during the Bull Prep that was a step forward at all? Yeah, oh yeah. Yeah, he definitely takes that forward for sure. If you are painting an ideal situation for the ball, what does the depth look like in terms of how many guys you'll trust? I think I got six seats in there. So six of the toughest dudes on the team. I'm not sure I'm just giving you the coach speak, but I mean, however it shakes out. Hopefully we could play 13 person, no 14 person now. And I got guys out there that are going to go a recent havoc. But I don't know. They're going to make that sort of out. Right now I'm worried about whatever Thursday's practice, I mean the toughest dudes on the field. Are you seeing enough of that just to feel comfortable? Saying that that can happen by hand? Yeah, yeah, I mean we're taking strides. We'll see about the end of spring and then hopefully fall camp. It's a long ways away from wherever we play with going.

3:50:25Yeah, it's been great. It's been great. A pump return kick return and again to coach other positions too, right? I mean, I mean, special teams comes down to technique and effort. Right? And that's the ultimate test of the brotherhood. No one signed up to be a buck out of me on pump return. I didn't want to be first round this, first round that. So it's been awesome and involved in that. What do you think that? You look at the front of the bus, you're a little bit of a man. And you see that? Oh yeah, we're working quite a few guys back there. We got some options. So yeah, we fun. You guys were thinking about puts a lot of you that maybe have a bigger world. What is he giving you guys that would make you think that you're better at? I mean, he had more time, right? Just because we have that whole month of kind of December for development. And the bull preps a lot like Spring Ball. And that he has those three or four weeks to get the reps. He wasn't getting during the year because Cade was taking it. Right? I think good.

3:51:30I think it just shows that next man in, we trust he fully Cade couldn't go. No one batted a knife. It was G. Then it was Pat. Period. We call their offense. There's no modified offense or anything like that. So to put our trust in him, he went out and made a lot of plays. And both of this gets played really well. I think that helps the confidence for him and awesome. Really good. When you look at G now, do you, and this is me, it's a suspicious question, maybe. Do you see a tight end? You're still when I'm saying from a couple of years ago. I'm years ago, he was, you know, he moved over from wide receiver and all this kind of stuff. We just jumped out at you about what he brings with the tight end spot. I guess. Yeah, I know what you're asking Tim. Yeah, I promise you, I never like, he's in the tight end room. I didn't say, oh, but he's a receiver playing tight end. He's a tight end. Yeah. He's a tight end. So he's going to be greater like a tight end, treated like it. So I never really. But like Kevin talked about when the, you know, person made the move. You want to, you want to get this guy out of some confidence, playing tight end, meaning, I'm not going to say he gets lesser opponents. But having some success out there, you know, like in the run game, the blocking aspect of things and stuff.

3:52:30And he seems to progress big time from that. I mean, do you feel that way too? Oh, yeah. He's gotten way better. And again, I practice. He's on the left side. He's against JT. He's on the right side. He's against Shaq. So I mean, there's no, this is Ohio State. You're playing against the best every day. So he's definitely progressed. Do you think that the lab would have entered you guys? You're having a special team. Do you think that's benefiting you guys in terms of just how you're coaching that they can be? Yeah, I think so. Dan, as far as ownership goes, right? Like, I mean, I'm not saying I wasn't invested last year, but shoot, I'm a partner during the kicker journey. I mean, that's Coach Hartlan and I's product out there. And if there's not tight ends all over those units, and they're not going to play tight end in Ohio State, and I bet you Hartlan feels the same way about the receiver. So as far as the buy-in from the staff, heck yeah. Heck yeah, for me, at least speaking for myself. When Coach stayed broke that up, what did you think about that change? And number two, what is he told you he wants that he wasn't getting from a special team two years ago? No, he never told me anything about last year. It was all about, okay, how could it be? This is, again, Ohio State.

3:53:30Yeah. Whatever the janitorial staff is supposed to be the best in the country. The tight end coach better be the best tight end in the country. Same thing with quarterback, same thing with pumper-turn coach. On the pumper-turn coach, I should be the best one in the country. So I got to work with Coach Hartlan and Coach Keys and everyone else learning this game and techniques and now we got to put on the field. You find yourself studying punt returns or like NFL teams and things like that. I mean, how are you doing your prep work? Oh yeah, yeah. Coach Hart, Coach Keys, thanks Gunnar and I. I mean, we bought to ourselves in a room for a week there. I don't think I did any offense. I don't know. You already have pretty good knowledge of just a turn game or different looks if you have to, like, start from scratch. No, yeah, there was no starting from scratch today. I mean, it's all ball. And that's the coolest thing about special teams is if you're on special teams, it's going to make you better tight end. It's going to make you a better DB, you're running back. And it's like the technique and everything like that. I think I had pretty fair foundation and then maybe some tweaks and, you know, we have to decide what our identity is going this season. And then we talked a lot about how to have a few of your own things. You know, we played a big role in the game.

3:54:30What do you think? What do you think is the best thing about what trust is you against what kind of trust is having in it? I think we've proved it on special teams because he played on special teams before we played offense. And then just reps up practice again against blocking the best linebackers in the country. It doesn't matter if you're a five star or if you're a walk on. But to that point, I think sometimes there's a mentality of, oh, but he's just a walk on it does not exist with Pat. It's went out the window to start a, once you start a plan. Is that how you approach it here? It's how guys like to do it. There's a guy, almost 1130. It's like having a star or something. Oh, yeah. Is that help you? Oh, yeah. They know, I think everyone in my room knows and, you know, guys I talked to on the recruiting trail. Kate went down and there was, G and then Pat was right in. I didn't have a bad eye. I'm going to put the toughest dude out there who goes to the hardest. I don't care if you're from Ohio, your dad's a buck guy, if you're a walk on her five star. Whatever she'd help us win, you know. We can marry in minutes. Not period. Yeah.

3:55:30You still work with them? How does that kind of work right now? Yeah, we can. I mean, with Max and Toe, it's FaceTime's and it's encouraging them to get here and watch practice so that when they get here, right out of graduation, we can hit the ground running. But yeah, it's much prep work as we can do on the front end with, you know, sending them tip sheets and that's what I think. I mean, I mean, I mean, we can get to work right now. Two more questions, folks, with the special teams question, the collaboration that you guys have. It's three people in one room. Like, how does that work semantically where you guys are all putting your heads together to get one idea? Just how does that play out in the room together? Yeah, I mean, luckily, I mean, it's Coach Hart and I. I mean, that guy, we worked, we're seeing each other every day for the last eight years. And luckily, I worked for years with him. So that's so organic. And it's hard and I just kind of bounce each other, thoughts off each other. We can read each other's minds by now. I think that's how close we are. So this is really organic in there. And then Coach Kees does a great job of kind of setting the direction, giving us some expertise. And we just kind of have a flow off each other. Okay. I've seen the guys react to that, like you're coaching, but that's much of a team's.

3:56:31Yeah, I think they like it because the accountability, again, if my tight ends aren't on a permanent kicker dream, they're not playing tight end. And I know that. So I think across the board, it gives us a platform to coach other positions. She didn't, in a time when Trent Transport is so big, and the guy like G probably could have left multiple times if he wanted to. What does that do for the room? To have a guy who's a leader, have just so step-ass and like, I want to stay here, I want to stay here and make an impact. Yeah, I think it speaks volumes. You hit the nail on the head, not just for G, but for the brotherhood. And I know it sounds cliche and people read it on Twitter and kind of roll their eyes at brotherhood. Why did they think the entire defense came back for the brotherhood? We got two goals here. We haven't done them since she's been here. He hasn't hit his two goals, so he stayed for the brotherhood. So I think it speaks volumes for G as a leader in the room. But also, I mean, you look around our roster, how many guys could have either left for other opportunities in the portal or in the NFL. So I think it speaks volumes to the brotherhood. Is it different at tight end with the transfer portal maybe because for some positions it's such a development position at tight end where you have to develop run blocking?

3:57:32And you have to learn the passing game. Like, is it different trying to keep kids around maybe in the portal or at a tight end? Yeah, maybe it is. And I haven't really thought about that because it's still so new. I think you've got to be so honest in recruiting. Right? If you think I'm going to walk into a living room and say, come be my starting tight end, I should be crazy. You're crazy. Now, come prepared and get to work before you get here. And, you know, I'm going to give you the opportunity to. Again, I do a question earlier. I don't care if he's a senior or a true freshman. If you could play, you could play period. I can't wait. You can give me a true freshman. You could play tight end. It's the Ohio State. You got to block Jack and JT. And then your dog tired next play. You're getting covered by Downs and Latelyn and all those guys. Are you kidding me? Is this NFL? No, it's Ohio State. Right? So yeah, I think it's a little bit different, but you got to be honest on the front end. Thank you very much. Awesome. Thanks, guys. Thanks, coach. Thank you. I'm glad you're here. Just circling back to what we had. Natural maturation a little bit because he's been through a little bit of spring. He's been through a little bit of camps.

3:58:33So you're still learning the terminology. You're learning a new skill set. But he just dove right in and wanted to be a sponge and wanted to learn. He's doing a good job and he's improving every day. So that's what's making the battle and the competition. All these great snaps really good for us is because they all have that mindset. So from Seth Awesome, the unit in the group, Awesome. So combattentness to it. Let's get in the skull and compete and then let the guys win. Just learning the same deal. Young guys you're coming. You got to learn how to play in friction. So having three tech, having two eye, having those guys right in front of you. Every time you take one of those reps and you're out of your base or you're in your base, you feel the good, you feel the bad. So being more consistent that way, you can't make moves or shift guys if they're not mentally there. And so for him, he's got a pretty good football FQ. So he's continuing, he's growing every day. He's working and he's getting beat every day too. And he's learning from those. So in the spring time, we have saying in our room, we're like, in the spring, it's yes and it's no.

3:59:34And then I know it's KNOW. Why didn't the rep work? What happened? And how do I make sure I don't repeat the same mistake? And so whether he's coming in and watching the tape on his own and then come with questions, he's grabbing me and watching tape with me or we're coming doing stuff as a unit. He's learning so that same deal the game can slow down and he gets more comfortable there in friction. So I mean, his weights up, his strengths up, he's spending all of his season with Mick. You know, there's a lot of development that still has to be had. Obviously not a finished product, but being able mentally for a guy to handle that, you know, helps a lot. Are there any good answers? A lot. Similar to Carson. Yes, the bottom can be as well. Luke, a leaner guy. Did you tell him that? He paid you to say that? He did not pay me to say it, but I would say it. That might be the first time he ever heard that in his life. No. No, you know, Luke Carson, whoever it may be, that jump of 18 to 19 to 19 to 20 year old kid,

4:00:41that plays a lot into it too. Being in a full year with Mick, I mean, all those guys, you coming at mid, you're like your Divo and Dion and Ian more right now. You're keeping your head above water. That's your whole first year. Now you can actually get and we can sit. So when you sit and talk about a jam combo or a lock or whatever the call may be to Luke, he registers that and not like something new, because then there's paralysis by analysis. So I think the middle part on top of another year, natural maturity of getting bigger and stronger, that's always going to help. You're not going to, guys here, they're not going to regress. It's going to keep adding progress and how fast can we get that going as well. We're working on every day with him. So he said that he would have been all guard to this point. And Coach Day is mentioning this several times that Josh could play guard too. And you guys are trying to work through that, Friar. Josh could play off five. I mean, he snapped the ball in high school. Josh had a great off season. But for you when you're going to your spring and it's fact finding and experimentation, how much do you want to put them in different spots or not?

4:01:44Because you also have an eye on August to try and settle on five minute rotation. What's the balance of that for you? You have to get a really good, gradable set so that everybody has numbers of, you know, just like we said before, how many times have we done? A run blocking or pass blocking in this situation so that that all evens out. So that's the, it's not experimentation. It's just making sure that you get a good book of work to work out and grade that. So as we, you know, work guys around the platoons and go just to making sure that everybody gets good, gradable reps. So we can sit back by the end of spring and say, all right, this is your comparing apples to apples and oranges oranges and not, you know, apples to oranges because it's completely different that way. So that's kind of the thought behind that as you go through the spring. When you got here a couple years ago because of that, you were probably told you, years from now, Chip Kelly is going to be here as office of courtman. What would you say? Not a laugh. You know, but then I said, you know, it's college football. So who knows, right? What's up in like, I'm sure you're enjoying it. What's up in like, is it? I mean, he just added to another piece of just good people here. I mean, you still, you're coming to work here with guys every day, you know, but the kids we talk about a thumb, but then for us as coaches of staff.

4:02:52So adding just another good dude that's in the room. Obviously, as he says something and, you know, he might speak in old terms or terms that we had, you know, maybe be a little bit of a rosetta. I don't know, this is this. He's like, yeah, that's right. Because that happens to all coaches that happened to me when we got here first. I was at what coach day sometime went Ryan's like, you know, what do we call this because he was in a system like that before. And he's, oh, this is this now. So I think just the, you know, translation of a rosetta stone there help, but just overall standpoint of adding a great guy that's a great coach that's been around. That's, he's going to supplement the room and every time you add something new to the room, then that makes the room better. It makes you individually better. Oh, look how he does that. Maybe I could do that. Maybe I can bring that to my meeting room. Maybe I can bring that to communication to the staff or to the kids or whatever it is because he's. He's done it for a long time and he's done a high level for a long time. So it's good to add that guy to us and then continue as us to rest the staff for me and Brian and key and everybody just learning and growing with that.

4:03:52What does he see brings me to kind of specifically just I mean, does he from a talent standpoint? Does he see things sometimes if others don't see? I mean, does he? I mean, what does he kind of brings from the shop board aspect of those? Well, I mean, but you're saying so what does he see? It's good to have fresh eyes come in that maybe you know, you get in a routine and you get in a rhythm and all of a sudden. You know, he's one of those guys that I think goes into categories, forgotten a lot of football, more football than some people have learned in their life. But no, his he I believe he coached every position on the field both sides of the ball through his whole career. So as he looks up and he writes when he's talking about, well, this will linebacker's going to do that. Then he might have coached at Columbia, right? Or this is what the three techs going to read on a down block of attack all because he's coached the offensive line and he's been a coordinator for a long time. So just a really good vision of big picture, understanding and you know, the next step and not just being right now. What does this ticker if he had a theme or whatever this spring because I mean, it seems kind of like a make it a break in time for him.

4:04:59The time to step up and step is point was nobody cares. Nobody cares what struggles you have or whatever you got to go out during the field to get the job. If you know she think different about tech, what do you see about tech? Yeah, he's competing his butt off. I mean, he's kind of living that way. You know, that's why we have that the red line over there when you cross the line, you know, coach, they talks about that here like that it's the game doesn't care. You're off the field. You got to come out and step out and do your job. It doesn't care about anything off the field. Right? That can sound really negative and harsh. But then it also if you just spin your tone like in it beautiful that the game doesn't care. It doesn't care your skin color your socioeconomic background where you've come from. If you just want to do it the right way in the 53 and a third, the game will love you back. You know, so I think it's the approach mentally that guys take that way. So yeah, for tegrate, he's he's taking that approach like he wants to come in and be a guy. So he's fighting and clawing and scratching every day. So when he makes a mistake, he's trying to correct it when he does it well. He's trying to enhance it.

4:06:03And that's what competitive people do. And that's what he showed up to do. So that's good that he said that. What's his comment on the field been like as a center? And it's not difficult when you're coming into a new offensive line to have that. Or is there something made about the center position? If you've been experienced at it like he has where you kind of have that. I guess a command on field over with any offensive line. So I should say it over it's start over again. You're saying the competitive center with who now? Seth. Yeah, I'm saying like how has his he command of the field been and hasn't been difficult, I guess, to adjust for him if he's to have a certain level of on field command. Yeah, I mean, the on command is just great communication getting everybody on the same page. Yes, having a bunch of banked reps helps. But then when you do come into a new offense, just like we talked, you know, chip a little bit earlier. You know, he might have called it yellow and we call it green or something. I don't just make it stuff up, but the transition of that in your head to get going with that. But yeah, the comfort of having a ball on your hand, having a guy. I mean, you talk about acclimatization of football.

4:07:08Like play one handed and have, you know, tie leak this far from your face. You better have command of something. So you got to understand the communication and the technique and those things there. So yeah, I think him coming into a new place. The game's not as fast as it probably would be for a younger guy. But also there's mistakes there that he can learn from and grow from. And the same day, he's, you know, the one thing we're not having concerns with, we're not driving right now is the guys just competing and trying to get better after a mistake. Like we said, we're enhancing as they've done some stuff really well and he's, he's adapted to that really well. This spring is the same for that. And how do you assess their doing by center version guard? Could they both have been ripping it center? Yeah. For the competition aspect. Could they roll out and play guard? Yeah, probably both of them could. How do you assess that? You just got to give them a bunch of guard reps. But if you thin guys out too much that way, then that's not good coaching, you know.

4:08:11So we got a good plan with everybody. Those two guys included as we're moving ahead. But yeah, they've been, they've been really working at center position right now both of them. Would you ask about Josh's signature? No, I have it. He obviously came after spring practice next year. How has he been this spring? You kind of speak to how what the challenge must have been for him last year, not having spring practice stepping in play that position. Yeah, same. He's been here not even a four year yet. So coming in the summer, do what he did coming into the fall. And then now I mean the same with him. Sound like a broken record. I think the game's slowing down for him. Those mistakes that may have showed up or the questions that he had through the fall. And as we got going through the season, those are starting to erase a little bit, which is good. You know, his communication level is just talking more. That's probably the best thing that he's done so far. He's a highly, highly talented guy. We're just developing that skills and discipline and and does go into communication. So as he communicates and talks, that's probably the biggest thing I've seen from him, which I think, you know, volume and communication equals confidence.

4:09:20And so he's playing much more confident right now. Obviously has talent. He also have a few plays a game or, you know, the penalty or whatever. Have you seen him reduce those? A bunch. Yes. Coach, thank you very much. Thank you, sir. Thanks guys. Thank you. Thank you. You're my bare fans. Thanks, yes. I understand. All right, folks, we will come back when? No, the communication and how everything works and really just understand the football, which you kind of understand, like how do you just rely on your work? And you want to get the best and best in the first day of the universe and so I think that's what I'm talking about. How can that chemistry be different from the time you were playing in a regular website? I think it's an even here like there'll be things like sometimes you won't even have to communicate because you just know, you know, like you're a little bit of a ball together. It was great. I came in knowing that just about everything. I mean, like obviously I kind of feel like in terms of like physical attributes, I can kind of like move and strong stuff like that.

4:10:34But I think like there's a lot more to it that I needed to work on even to come close to what I can do to me being able to help it to, like such as technique, awareness, just just everything. Definitely communication, I think that's like the big thing. I mean, you're in those big games where you got to be able to, you know, call it out, like a pressure might come and stuff like that. So it's awareness and ball. I think it's a good thing to have a few more hours to go to the right. Coming to summer, if you start resonating, how you feel spring is there a level of understanding how the coaches and what you want to do as players and how you have to do better? I think folks we have Dallin, Hayden, not the 20. Yeah, who wants just 100% effort and just to work hard? Obviously, like there's more to it, but those are the things that you want to put back. Next to summer, I pick that every day coming out here is the best for them. I know, just forward, Dr. You go back and actually, is it almost like you have all the stuff that was throwing me all the stuff I had to adjust to?

4:11:35I really think that is great for Barney's games and you think that's great? Definitely, but I kind of, like when I come here, I knew Coach Fry and staff, like they were going to, they're going to definitely like scope me into the player. Yeah, scope me into that, yeah, like they know that like scope, I mean like scope, yeah, like just kind of make me into that type of player. I mean the development factor from Coach Fry and I mean getting these, like I didn't even, it's like magic almost. So I mean I'm just kind of keep going with him and keep riding with him. Having his spring practice, having summer all has been on this, and how much better do you think you have? I guess we'll see, I'm going to keep picking that in. Sure. I guess I would say sure, but I mean I can't really take credit for something like that, you know, the man above kind of put that in my gym. How much is running game changing? New odds, whatever you want to call it with Chip Kelly in charge?

4:12:39What if you noticed this little bit, little nuances or stuff? I mean maybe like little things, I mean, the little things add up to big things, right? Yeah, I mean, yeah, where do you think you guys were lacking at some point last year in certain, some of those matchups? I mean, it was a whole new line, so I mean, I know the side came a few things with each other, but other than that, it was, I mean, it was a hard game, nothing's going to be like for sure what's going on, you know, you can have some hard times. Yeah. Did Missouri test y'all about as well as anybody? Yeah, they were pretty good. What did you know coming out of there? Y'all had to get fixed. To be honest, I felt like we just tried to go out there and just play hard. Like, obviously we know number six was a really good player, so we just try to make sure if you either back through as much possible, so that's what we tried to go through. It's a clever game a little bit, Josh, really good. Yeah, so as a left tackle, I feel like the number one job is making sure nobody gets in the quarterback. And that's something that I try to do, make sure nobody kind of get around me or go through the range and just keep the quarterback in the audience here, and a lot more.

4:13:45Yeah, they'll be able to be a well-entered player, you know, more people in the run and stuff like that, but I guess that's not one of the biggest things, not sure if the quarterback is going to be a good player. Run a lot whenever you, how was it essentially something that you were going to do? Yeah, so I mean, we got, I mean, we have the main deal I mean, go through as twisting and stuff like that, so in the run, no twist, too. So you just kind of like, I guess you just got a really state technically sound, and somewhat I'm trying to do in the run. Josh, if you're going to get Mitchell Melmuch this spring and stuff, what stands out about him? Obviously, he came back from a couple of knee injuries and stuff, but what's just jumped out at you about him? Yeah, you wouldn't even know he had the two knee injuries. I mean, he's so, like the way he rushes, it's so, like, it's his signature rush, like, it's something that you can't, it's probably the hardest person I've had to block here, if I'm being honest. Like, he's very twitchy, great with his hands. Amazing to get off, and he has that sneaky power, that if you're not really like, setting for it, he'll get you. And I want to get your take, you know, you came here from San Diego State, your center, the guy's transferred in Seth McLaughlin, whether he starts him, I will see, right or no.

4:14:49He's from Alabama. He's an amazing you have college football teams who are put together anymore. Yeah. Because he could be a key thing, and what does that just tell you about the game these days? I mean, yeah, I mean, it can go anywhere. I mean, like Seth is a great player. I mean, he tells me like, you know, stuff that they did differently, I bet, and stuff like that. And I try to take some of like, maybe some advice he has, because he's been in college football for a little longer than me, so. Yeah. Yeah, he seems like a grown-up, doesn't he? Yeah. He comes across that way, then. Yeah. What's the line of the line that you're absolutely matched with the robot in pieces? What's the line of the game? What's the line of the game? Play fast, play physical. I mean, there's obviously more that we're working on. We're learning like in each other to be honest. I guess the right side is kind of like going a little bit. I mean, not with fire, but like, you know, we have like some people that compete. I mean, we're all competing. I know I am. And stuff like that. So I just, we're just trying to play hard and play. The amateur, most of the way through this, really fast. How helpful is spring? How important? The necessary, really, is spring.

4:15:50How do you have that? Yeah, it's very necessary, especially when you've kind of got a new OC and stuff like that. It's best to kind of get, you know, comfortable with the scheme now. Then maybe like close to camp, because then like in like a few weeks in the retro. Yeah, we're going so. This time last year, you know, like, do it to lead on to get the future. I mean, Don, he's like, dude, I owe Don and I like he's an amazing player. He gives me like, inside of him, just by the way, Notre Dame. I've never been like more nervous for a game than Notre Dame. I just kind of talked to him and he said, we got it. Keep doing what you're doing. We got to it. We got to open the web. Oh, yeah, especially. Thank you. Thank you, guys. Thank you. Thank you. So, like I said, you know, just sort of been tough on your leave this year. And with the opportunity we got, you know, you only got, you only got one more chance left to, you know, to go do something that not many people get to do in their lives.

4:16:51We're in a blessed position. Yeah, what do you think? Look for your final. Yeah, I think you have a tough time. You guys are good. I mean, you have a tough time. Uh, and I just think that I was putting good positions. Uh, just kind of let, you know, let loose. We're not there in play ball. Like I know how to and, uh, you know, my teammates played great too. And the coach is called it the game defensively. I mean, you know, we give a 14 total points. We give a 17, 14, 14. I mean, 14 gets a good offense like that. Great team. Uh, I mean, that's a good day. So, obviously we didn't get the results we wanted, which is frustrating again, but it's a whole different story. Uh, yeah, I mean, I just think it was, it was collectively a good day on defense. And I happen to be fortunate to be in position, make some good plays. Can that be the time for, obviously, something to make a good compensation? You guys are playing well, but you know, you have a, the most tough time I've always necessarily met with me or in that. I'm trying to add all that to my first starters. Can you feel when we're in a groove like that when you get back to the field, and you get all this much easier work?

4:17:54Yeah, I think I felt like I was in a groove probably the whole second half of the season. I feel like myself again, and I was just out there playing a heavy foam on my teammates. And, uh, you know, I think that, you know, when you come here and you expect to hit the field, and to be a certain way, you know, it's hard to get over that for a little bit. And I think you can look at kind of this all of us on the D line as a front. We all kind of had our own journey to how we, how we're playing right now. And now it's all about building, not looking back and playing how we know how to play and, and being confident out there. And, uh, using our abilities that God's gave us. So, I think that this whole next year, you know, you're just going to see a whole different level of play from all of us. I know you're trying to keep it up, but, yeah. And that'd be kind of a launch for you. You know, what you're maybe capable of, you're in a future. You're just going to be a new person, you know, you're going to be a new person. Yeah, you know, I've, I've knew all along what I was capable of. And, uh, you know, it was frustrating for a few years, you know, not being able to, you know, not playing for whatever reason on the field. So what I was capable of, but, you know, once you just put that, that stuff to the side, just got there and play ball.

4:18:56You know how it's just going to take care of itself. Okay. No, you're good. Did, uh, you're playing, using the term, building, on talent issues. Wow, with us. I've got like an emphasis of not focusing on the little things kind of on you on that stuff. And you guys know you're on talent issues. And what is it for you to show you in the future? Yeah, you know, I think you said it. You know, with, there's no talent issues here on this team. Uh, you know, I think if you look at our team across the board, probably one of the most talented teams in the country. It's not the most talented team in the country. Uh, so, you know, that's God given though. And, uh, what we can work on is our discipline or skill or technique. I think if we become the most, you know, disciplined and sound team technique wise, there's not going to be a team of country's style. Uh, but it's, you know, it's a long process to get to that point and to get to that season. So I just think that when Coach Day talks about that, you know, it's true. We've got the talent. Just got to go out there and work every day on the little things. What are you specifically working on this spring? You know, I'm working on a flexibility, you know, working on bending the corner a little bit in, uh, hands.

4:19:57And it's at the line, you can kind of improve on everything. And so Coach Johnson's, our emphasis is just, you know, just taking care of the little things, hands, hips, foot placement. So it's kind of a little bit every day in the spring. There's a lot to be excited for, especially all the guys coming back on defense. But how excited are you to play again with JT? Oh, I'm really excited about that. You know, it was cool, really cool. I mean, him going back and forth the whole time to side. And we're going to come back or not. Uh, and you know, when we, you know, I kind of knew before you guys knew when he was coming back. So, you know, I was excited. He's a, you know, hell of a player and, uh, you know, really good friend of mine. So just having another year with him and, you know, I'm going to enjoy it. And, you know, hopefully have some fun. You know, we can have a lot of support about this next fall. Even going back to your recruitment. You know, the first guy to come in and this was pretty cool. I was, you know, I got over the bar, I'm using your house. What was it like, I guess, to see it kind of come full circle in a way that you could kind of almost leverage that relationship. And we're good guys to come back into the pool to run back on the right. Yeah, you know, it's, it's unique.

4:20:57You know, I think it's a really unique position. Um, that great group of guys coming back, man. I mean, you know, it's just so exciting. And I just wanted to, you know, for me, you know, and at the same thing, same thing for those guys, how much they care about this program and care about the team and coach day and, and guys you want to do it for in the city and, uh, you know, the chance we, we all knew that, you know, we had great opportunities going in the field. And, uh, we also have a great opportunity to put another one of those banners up here. And, uh, you know, get some revenge on, you know, the guys up north, all that stuff. So, um, you know, when you put in a nutshell, you know, it was a really simple decision for a lot of us. Um, and, uh, you know, we thank God for being in this position and coming back. You know, I don't think any of us regret it. And we're just really excited to, you know, just get back on the chase and, uh, you know, not miss the day. Jack, we take a wide view of the defense with the additions made. And, uh, you know, we're going to be able to come in and now you see sunny,

4:21:58move closer to the line of scrimmage. You just, you have an opportunity to like, look at what's out there. How does it change the capability of your defense? Last time, they talking it changed the way maybe you deploy that you couldn't do a year ago. Yeah, I mean, you look at our, you look at the defense one of the fear like, damn, we're big. You know, corner, we're big, line back, we're big, the line were big, safe through, we're big. Fast, uh, you know, we're just, it's, you know, we're just, we've got a lot of, we've got a lot of weapons, uh, to say the least. And so, you know, when you got, when you know you got those guys behind you, uh, you know, you just make you play so much more free up front. And, you know, you, you're dependent, you can rely on those guys behind you. And I think that, you know, if we take that approach and, and everywhere on the field, offense too, that, you know, we're going to really fun here. Jack, thank you very much. I think I've changed the perception before. I mean, you guys don't pay attention like outside noise, but also, a lot of the stuff you've got. You can actually play fully in the field. Pretty good, a lot of them too. Yeah, I'd say, um, it starts off with like you kind of got to, it starts off with tuning out with the outside noise.

4:22:58Um, what, and what other people have to say about it? And it's really good. But mine said, I kind of look at it as if it's like a drop in a bucket. You know, if I got a big bucket, um, there's no one thing I'm going to do to make this bucket full. It's, it's a daily thing where I put one drop in it a day. And look back over a year, two years, three years, look back and be like, I've gotten a lot better. And so like I said, I'm just very thankful for the unit. Um, the guys that I have around me push me very hard, and I'm just thankful. You mentioned that the development is part of TITX. What was the book challenging part of you to make everything into the play? Yeah, I'd say, um, definitely the size component, you know, you can't, you got to be someone that's, you know, when the, you got to be big, you got to be strong. You got to be fast. There's a lot of jobs that you have to do. Um, it's a very asking job. You need to, um, bought the big, some of the biggest guys in the field. Um, but also run routes off some of the smallest guys in the field. And so I've been just thankful just to be out here and do exactly that. What was it like to get that shot the other day from the, uh, pros counts? You know, just run routes, catch balls. Oh, yeah, show off. Yeah, no, there's a good opportunity.

4:23:59Um, I think some of the big, you know, region behind it was just kind of giving those guys that though that were at pro day, we have limited numbers. So just get out there and give those guys a breather. But maybe the opportunity to get to go out there in front of scouts. Um, I think that's a pretty good deal. And you're taking only a quarterbacks to this point. The quarterback battle is going on. What, what, what's been your take on will, for example, get to know him. Yeah. And, uh, of course, David, I think the mindset that we have body around here is, um, ironing, sharpening iron. So that's kind of like, it's not just, you know, one room. It's from top to bottom. This whole team, um, no matter what position you are, we're here to work. And I think we're all here to make each other better. Whether it's in a quarterback room or tight in the room, running back room, um, offense versus defense, coach for his coach. It doesn't matter. We're all just, you know, iron and sharpening iron, especially this time of year in spring ball. We're not doing too much game planning for next week. And we're really just spending this time to get better and, uh, just go to good foundation for ourselves. It's something to work on moving forward. If you've seen Will, Will Howard fitting in more and more is the practice that's gone on. You know, getting to know everybody and all that kind of, I mean, I know we've been, been here for a while.

4:24:59Oh, sorry. Yeah, I think, I think I, I think I, I think it's times goes no matter where you are. You start to adapt and you start to get used to the, um, what we have going on here. And so it's good to have. Thanks. Yeah. You came in. Thank you. What's it been like? Yeah. Yeah. I'd say, um, when it comes to that, I think it's all the glory to the Lord. And I decided to give my life completely to the Lord a little over a year ago. And that kind of really changed my outlook on the way that I approach football. Um, it's no longer something that I, I don't know, it's just something that I do. And I think the time of my life where I stopped, you know, compartmentalizing who God was in my life. God wasn't, there's something that I do on Sundays or something that I do in a Bible study. It was something, it went from what I do to who I am. And so now I embody that as who I am. And so, um, some of the fruits of the spirit is, um, peace, patience and kindness. And so those are the kind of things that I've started to embody on this, uh, on this journey.

4:25:59I think it's easy to kind of compartmentalize football away from, uh, faith, but ultimately it's all one. It's all one. So it's giving me a spirit of patience, um, peace and, uh, and joy with the guys around me. And so I'm just, I'm thankful. I'm thankful to be here. Um, but I, um, like being quite honest, I just, I know for a fact, I wouldn't be where I'm at right now. And I know on the outside looking in, you know, I was like, you know, where are you right now? But I wouldn't be where I'm at, you know, right now if it wasn't for my, you know, relationship with Lord, um, which really came into my life and, you know, changed around from bed. G, what did you see from Ben and Christian last year? How did you know that suspension? Yeah. How do you work through that? Yeah, I think he did a great job. A lot of perseverance. Um, I think that's, no matter who you are, we're kind of hearing news like that. And you're going to be out for a year, that's hard. Um, no matter where you are, um, I'm really proud of him because he, you know, he came up, he came to show up every single day. And he got better. He got better. The easy thing to do in that kind of situation is throwing the towel. Be like, man, you know, you know, forget this or, you know, I'll get better next year.

4:27:00But, uh, I saw the drive at him. One thing I see now every day he showed up. He got better. And I'm proud of Ben and I'm proud of this unit. Why's the question saying like, you know, I don't know. I mean, yeah, I don't know. I don't really know how to answer that question because if you go from one unit to another unit, the moment you trade units, you're no longer in the unit you are initially in. So you're, you're now a tight end. And so, um, I mean, to answer that question, I think the time that I went from in the receiving it to the tight end unit is the moment I became a tight end. I'm not, uh, Kevin Wilson, the coach Wilson was my coach. Um, Coach Alon was my coach and I was a receiver. It's just different. I mean, it's, it's two different roles. I think I'd say to answer that question, the moment that I decided to come to play tight end is the moment I became a tight end. And so now over the years, I've gotten better at playing in the position.

4:28:02But, um, the moment that I transferred over, I've been a tight end. And, you know, I'm excited to be a tight end. Another position I'd rather play. Well, buck us. Thank you, G. Yeah. Yeah. What were the issues lie and what we're trying to attack. Um, and so I think, you know, that's something that over time I can feel Lincoln getting a better and better feel for it. Um, you know, Lincoln has definitely stepped up from a leadership perspective. And you can see the way that, you know, he attacks workouts and, you know, this winner is so big for all three of them. Just really just set the standard and, and to understand the intangibles that playing quarterback is all about, right? Because there's so much more than just picking up a football and throwing it when it comes to this succeeded on Saturdays. Um, so I've seen that growth from Lincoln and that's, that's really exciting. Um, as for Julian, um, you know, last year going into the year, he, he was competing for a job and, you know, end up didn't not win in the job. And, you know, he could have turned it down and been bummed out and, you know, not attacked it the way way.

4:29:03But I saw him continue to grow throughout the year. So I'm going from Rowan and to get to a point this year where we're now he can step up and be more of a vocal leader. And, you know, that's something I've seen growth of him as well. You know, he's put on some weight and he looks good and he's definitely attacked. It's time in the, you know, the winner. And so that's been awesome. And then Tavine comes in and, you know, Tavine, Tavine's, you know, really should still be in high school. Instead, he's, you know, in my office all the time, learning the offense. And when he's not with me, he's with Coach Meijer, when he's not with Coach Meijer, he's over there doing academics and sassos. So his days are pretty jam packed and it's definitely new for him. But his commitment to wanting to be great and wanting to be to the level where he can go out and compete in the spring has been really impressive. So I'm excited for all three of them. Does it feel like what August 30th is it just around the corner years? I want to say and you got to have a way to go against Texans, you know, in the open. Yeah, I don't think so. I don't think so quite yet.

4:30:03You know, I think we have a unique situation where we've got three really talented kids. You know, they're all young. They all have a lot of room to grow. And I think they all understand that and are eager to attack tech growth. But most college football teams or a lot of college football teams going to a year and they end up, you know, having a guy get hurt or something happens. So as far as, you know, having one guy, I guess not to go either. We want to develop the room. We want all three of them to continue to get better, to continue to develop and be guys that we can count on throughout the season. Did you guys win a board? Scholarship guy? That's still in conversation. We'll kind of see how it goes. Obviously three is a little bit less than we typically have. But the three that we're really confident in right now. You've got to run your board of acts to work for him to work for him. Actually, you work for him to work for him to work for him. Who's filling out your room? I mean, you have someone that you've had in mind to come in and meet the system for you. How do you see that? Yeah, right now, Colin Kienos in helping me. So Colin was working with me at Akron.

4:31:05He was a student assistant and he was really, really impressive there. So he's going to come in and he's going to help out with some of the day today's stuff. And then, you know, Coach Day and I have built a pretty good relationship where, you know, between my time here is a GA where, you know, I learned the game of football the way he sees it. And that was such a pivotal time in my career. You know, I was so blessed in college and then in my first couple, you know, my first job there that I got to work with Joe Morehead. And, you know, I learned so much football from that man and I credit so much of my career to him to put me in the position. But then having the opportunity to, okay, hey, I'm going to see you through a little bit of a different lens and learn how Coach Day sees it. It was so big for me in my development. So that couple of years as a GA was awesome for me. And then last year to be able to sit in with him and really kind of see the game, you know, in a similar fashion. And I'm always going to continue to learn from him because he's just such a special coach. But to be able to see it, you know, in a similar way and continue to bounce thoughts on them to make sure that him and I are communicating in the same way. You know, Coach Day will always be directly involved with the quarterbacks.

4:32:07And now Coach Hartman will as well, you know, as the offensive coordinator, I think as the guy in that chair, you have to have a relationship with the guy that's in the huddle. I think that's really important. So, you know, him and I have already begun conversations just about, you know, how that's going to work out and how, you know, he's going to continue to see the game the same way that the quarterback does and how he's going to communicate to them. Those conversations are already beginning. So it'll be, it'll definitely be a combination of, you know, us three. Billy Tavian being there from the championship round. How about that? I guess help with this development. Well, it's pretty cool. Just about every one of those games where he was at a playoff game at the national championship. You know, our guys were warming up and I grabbed him and say, look around. You got to take a couple minutes to take this in, right? This is what it looks like. This is what this is what we work for. So, you know, when you get to a really hard day in the winter, right? You just remember not a homework and get to that point. So for him to have that experience and to be able to see that and, you know, hopefully one day when he's in that spot, he's like, I've seen this before. I know it looks like. I think it's pretty cool. I think just to have that bank in his memory.

4:33:14You know, I think he comes off, so I've spoken, but. He's without question, you know, come out of the show and I would even say you saw spoken last year. You know, I think that he kind of understood that, you know, Will was in charge of the offensive and he knew that he was young and was still earning respect. You know, a big part about leadership is you can't just walk into a room and start leading. You have to earn the respect you're appears and truly understood that. And, you know, I think he earned that respect throughout the year. And so this year, you're definitely seeing a step up him and Lincoln both, you know, are in that phase where they've earned that respect. And so they're doing a really good job leading right now and in Tavians doing a good job earned respect. So we're kind of in the middle right there between those two phases. Really, Lincoln is, I think still less than two years, just specializing in. He was just regretting. I actually kind of was at the end of his first year. I guess where do you think he is harnessing all of that all athletic ability to be a really good coach? Yeah, I mean, there's no question how Lincoln's special athlete.

4:34:16And, you know, guys that have that background that have been successful in multiple different sports. You know, one way or another is going to translate to the game of football. So I think that we're continuing to see that from Lincoln. You know, I think as the more that he, you know, is in position to understand and learn the game in which we saw last year. You continue to grow. And so to take that into spring, you know, and combine that with his athletic ability. I'm excited to see. You know, I think it'll be a really good competition. Can I go? Can you pull back truly lead until he is the quarterback? Oh, absolutely. I mean, you took one to talk about it. Oh, I think so. I think so. I mean, leadership comes in all different phases, you know, in all different ways. There's, you know, there's without question, I've been part of different teams and I've seen it where maybe the guy that wasn't starting quarterback was, you know, the strongest leader on the team. So I definitely think that that's part of it. You know, I think once you earn the respect of your teammates and once you show that, you know, you're going to lead by example and they respect you for that.

4:35:23You're in position now that you can be both of them. So, you know, I definitely don't think that you need to be a starter named a quarterback to be a leader at all. Even around some incredible offensive minds in college already, what are your, what are the traits you look for specifically as a quarterback being a quarterback yourself? Yeah. You know, I think it comes in a couple different ways, you know, from a tangible perspective. I think that you've got to be extremely accurate. I think you have to be able to make great decisions with the football and get the ball out of the time. And I think that you have to be able to do it. We solve a problem with the feet. So, you know, it's rare in college football that every protection is blocked up perfectly or everything goes exactly that we drew it up on the whiteboard. So, when things break down, I know I will be able to fix it with our legs. And then, you know, as far as intents, football, I look at, you know, guy like Will, who had those intents was about as well as I've ever seen. And that's just a complete command and understanding of both the offense and the huddle to know exactly what we're trying to do on every single play.

4:36:28Know what we're trying to attack, understand where the issues are and where they lie and how you're going to combat those issues. To be able to understand, you know, when it's time to move on through the ballway and move on to the next play and then also be mentally tough enough that when things don't go our way, to be able to react the right way and move on to the next one. Did you know last year? What last question? Did you go fight or quit? Did you go audition at all over your just focuss on your last year? Oh, no. No, I didn't do this on audition. Oh, I did. When you're coaching and you build a relationship with these guys, you want nothing more than for them to go out and have success on the field. And I think that's so important. Like I sit in that room and you know, it's about them going out and reaching their potential and maximizing their talents and going out and execute on the field. And so, you know, last year I was just trying to find a way that I could help them do that. So, you know, to be able to work with those guys last year and to help out and you know, have them see some success. It was special for me, but it was special for me because I know how bad they wanted it.

4:37:31And so, that was pretty neat. I always feel like it's one for improvement. Never feel like you just got it. That's one thing. A lot of people mess up one, feel like, oh, they have one good year. Okay, I'm relaxed. That's not any of me. I'm a no-continent doing for years and years to come. I feel like to myself. What do you know about this, what's your partner? Well, because you're part of no big, tall receiver, just like me. No, just came in campus head, not just working. I'm happy to see this future here at Ohio State. Probably going to be, you know, next one for sure. What's it like seeing all of these, like seeing the national championship banner and seeing all of the new signage, you know, and you played a huge role in it? I mean, it's, you know, it's a blessing. You know, this I played, you know, a role and, you know, the Nadi run that we had as a choose freshman. But, you know, it's time to move on. I mean, that's behind us now and I can't wait for this season to come up. What kind of obligation do you feel to a guy like me to kind of take him away and show him how he could work? I feel like he already got that, just coming in. He already got that hard work at it. Quiet, just like me as I came in, just all about ball really.

4:38:31I mean, here early. I mean, spending time with Coach Hartline, meeting and everything. He doing it the right way, I should say. And he have a bright future here. Coach Hartline said he wants you to become more of an okayer, a decent car now, and a couple of years we grew. Yeah. How much for a challenge that you are kind of quiet guy? Yeah, there's a challenge. No, just stepping out my comfort zone. I mean, something everybody wants to see for me, not just my coaches, but players on the team as well. We have a leadership meeting. I was a lot of people call me out on just saying they wanted to talk more. Working on it takes time. Not really the guy that's talkative or no, but lay by the time. But one thing that's definitely working on is trying to talk more and get more of my comfort zone. And just be able to get it. Is that open with... Is that open for you or more than anything on the field? Yeah, for sure. That's definitely the biggest challenge. I mean, I got to say just stepping out my comfort zone and leading the guys and leading the younger guys as well. Do you guys open with Texas next year going back to the playoff game? Do you think about that moving forward just kind of how you were taking out of that game?

4:39:33Yeah, I think not really thinking about it. I mean, that's behind me. I mean, we won the game. We ended up going to the national championship. I mean, we see it on week one. I just can't wait to face the great opponent. What's your impression of David St. James so far? Yeah, big long corner, the Corrine, physical. He got it all. And I can't wait to see things he do here this year as well. What if you know his difference? Are you anything different about this defense of these first three weeks of spreading the tape? Cocked your eye? They just passed. Physical and willing to hit somebody else to say the same thing. Nothing really changed for me. Guys, they'll go and know what they've been doing over the last year and a half. And the year and a half was actually safe. Coach, that makes the quarterbacks live like he did for a couple of practices last week. As a wide receiver, Cardinal, how do you think your quarterbacks responded to that? Over all three. I think that was fun and pretty good. I did not expect the quarterbacks to be live in a scrimmage.

4:40:34That surprised me for sure. Coach, they definitely surprised me with that. But I feel like they handled it very well. They took hits. Something we need. They needed, I should say, tough enough to go. Why are receivers all like about quarterbacks seeing how they handle that since it's obviously not a norm to do that? Learn anything now, but it's definitely not known to see a quarterback get hit. It gets his no defense, I should say. But no, guys, they was getting hit for sure, but they was getting right back up. So, command, could I also do that? Two more questions. Can you get? Definitely can't get better, no, no, I feel like I'm getting complacent. Always one full proof, no, I'm just taking the day by day and no just getting better each other day. And why do you prepare for this group being in the expectations you're going to get on the next two seasons here off the season you just had? Not really focused on the expectations that I have coming up or the year after that, no, just focused on spring. And you know, just going to the fall camp and just getting ready for the season, as I said, as best as you can go be there and I really know something high.

4:41:41No, in my mind right now, I'm just, you know, being a leader and just focusing on the team. Jeremiah, how much changes is going on? Probably more than just the first boss. Not that much, I'm just getting the shirt. How much changes are you getting? I don't really know. We haven't really spoken about that right now. I don't really know. Jeremiah, a lot of guys just said that they want a lot of championship to take it down. They don't want to see it. It's moving into the sea. It's a museum. What is, how important is that for you? And why do you think that's significant for this team? I mean, like I said, we came live in the past, the club in the 2014, they won the national championship. This year, we did it. So, I mean, we just take everything down and wait room and everything. So, no, we could focus on being ourselves and no, this is our season. It was so great. You know, deep in, you couldn't stop it and what happened to happen that? You know, I mean, they're a great team. We got a great running back. Widerlinner is probably one of the toughest guys we've ever played against.

4:42:41And Marcus Freeman and his staff are a great job. So, hats off to them. And, you know, we knew they were going to make plays. Like you said, they did go right down the field to first drive, 14 plays. And they teamed. They were thinking of whatever it was. Here's a fun. But, like I said, they're a great team. We'll coach a lot of tough guys on that team. We knew they were going to fight their ass off. And it's a heavyweight balance. And that's what the championship is. That's what it's all about. And we knew we were going to have to take some shots and keep swinging. Can't you just keep the coach away? In that meeting, you guys have the season. So, you couldn't stand in front of you guys. A whole team, having a vulnerable like that, and to make changes, what is it say? I mean, it just speaks to how great a coach is. I think a lot of coaches would have had a lot of selfie goes, no matter what that meeting is. He didn't at all. He loves us, you know, all of us like for his sons. And we felt that form, you know, that loss. You know, we knew that we had a rebound like we did. And I can't say enough, like, how much he means to us and means to me. The way he goes about business, we don't go about it.

4:43:41Like a lot of teams do about fear, losing your job. We go about as a family. It's about love. And we knew we had to execute. And we did that tonight. How happy are you for Coach Day? You know, and how close you are, you were his first teammate. And for him to build a healthy good. Yeah, I mean, it's a dream come true, like I said. I mean, God is so great. And during that, it took us down. And it took Coach Day on. He was family on the main. And then I'll be curious that we did a night. And I'll be honest with you guys. I mean, it means everything to us. And to see you have the success, you know, it makes me so happy. I know, I saw the spawners, wife, I don't know, on her face. And stuff, the she doesn't do that. And then we had to be in the Columbus Outputs. And that guy in the car was horrible. And to come out tonight, and win this game for them, it's awesome. You dropped them and we come and burn them. The championship for busts, all that expectations with this team at own point in that event. And things for the team. You know, we knew what the expectations were going to the season. You know, we knew that we're at Ohio State. And the job at hand every year, as it cannot compete for national championship,

4:44:41and not doing your job. So, you know, what never a burden, it's kind of a motivating factor. You know, do what we're doing right now. We just did. And we just let you see. And we just left is something that, you know, you can't put in the words on what they mean. So, we never looked at this as a burden. But there's an opportunity in it. And we did that just tonight. Jack, you dropped this in the morning before the championship. When did you sense that? Well, look, we never thought it was going to fight to the end. And it didn't just start. You know, during the season, it was during the season you felt that you felt that you could take that. Before the season, we knew that we were capable of a national championship. It was because of the guys we had and the coaching staff. We knew that we were capable of this. And through all the ups and downs, we were able to persevere and keep fighting. Keep swinging coach. They always say, you've got to fight your way out of bad times and life. And as a player, as a coach, as a family, really, for him, you know, he's got to fight himself out of bad times. They did just that, made the adjustments, made the change that had to get made. And that was championed. So, like I said, got us so good. And the journey he brought us on was amazing. Jack, I believe you were the last week who said your the buck-eyed. Obviously, you grew up in Pickerington.

4:45:41When did you allow yourself to think about what this moment would be like? And what it would mean for your legacy at Ohio State if you could get this done? When did you allow yourself to think about that? Yeah, I know. I mean, honestly, I haven't still even thought about it. You know, I'm just so happy to be able to celebrate this in the school of guys. It's not about me at all. It's about this team and coach Day and the Soviet Columbus. I've been waiting for this for a long time for 10 years. And I'm just so happy for this group of guys. And the stuff that we went through and heard. And we keep getting up and keep shouting out the practice and going as hard as we can. And I'm approaching with a positive attitude and trusting that God's plan. And you know, here we are in national champs. And you can never talk that away from us. So, just so happy that we were able to finish the job. And then we're going to grab some of the gold. You can check. Now there's a piece on the stage at one point. What were your thoughts on Chuck here, Jack? Is that how you're going to play? It looked like you kind of dropped your knees at one point and we're giving some kind of thanks or whatever. But what was going on there? Yeah, I was just thinking God. I was just thinking God for all the ups and downs in my career. And everyone else's career. And then to end it this way, it's just so special.

4:46:42I mean, you know, when you put your faith in God, you know, he says it's not going to be easy. It hasn't been easy for any of us. And, you know, we kept trusting him and believing his plan. And here we are in national champions. You know, when I don't want to say, oh, you guys didn't believe it. But what if you guys didn't think we'd get the job then we can November. So here we are in national champs. And I feel just great to say. Who brought the cigars? Who brought the cigars? I could care less. Because I do, I know this out there. Because as it should be, it should be. I got hurt two major injuries back, not back to back years. But, you know, so I haven't been on the field as much as I should. That's true. That is true. But it's not like I'm having these little, little dinky injuries and sitting out. It's something I can't control. Literally. So that's why I'm not bothered by it. Like, yeah, I am injury-poly. You can say that. You know, but I do think that the chargers are getting a guy that's going to be healthy from not on, you know, God will it.

4:47:44And it's going to be great. And I do think that it's going to be a great however many years here. When you've been on the field, you've been highly productive. Yeah. 5.8 yards of very average for your career. Like, knowing that when you're out there, you're very productive. How much confidence does that give you that really all you need is not what you need? All the confidence in the world, you know, the way I work. I want to say just from the numbers, but just the way I work, my work ethic, you know, and my relationship with Jesus is like, I have the most confidence when I step out there. Because I do know like, if he grants me the health, it's over with. I don't think I'll be, you know, I think it'll be a great year or whatever. A couple of years, however many years, he grants me great health, you know, and I think just to work ethic, my prayer and all that stuff, that's what helps me have that confidence. With the numbers, we'll be there and they might be higher after this year, you know, than it's crazy to think about because I had 6.6 yards per carry, you know, so we'll see.

4:48:48You've been in Florida running behind this line that they prepared for you? Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, I play with Bradley. I play with him, you know, I know Slater, I know all the guys, you know, and I'm excited. I think, like I said earlier, it's a talented group. You know, we just got put together and win some games because that's what I came through for. Justin, on the part of the year, you know, I wouldn't say you're part of the recruitment, but like, whenever I decided I was going to sign, it was great to have him in the room. Yeah, we're great. We have a great relationship. That's, he's like my brother. He's a game-sign man, and I'm good at that. I think it complements each other very well, you know. He can do a lot of stuff too. You know, a lot of people think he's just power power power, but I think he has some other parts of his game too, which it'll be great because I feel like I can do everything. And when one gets tired, we can roll it in and keep rolling, win some games. When you, the two of you get going, how do you think this is going to look?

4:49:49What will be that partnership that is back there? I know. That's a hard question. How do I think it'll look beautiful? You know, a lot of people call this a passive league, but I think you got to run the ball to win a Super Bowl. You know, if you look at the team to win a Super Bowl, they can run the ball, they can control the clock. And so if we're both good, it'll look great. Beautiful. I would be described as a recruitment office. I would describe it as, you know, a great offense. I think he gives a quarter, he's going to give the quarterback a lot of options. He's going to give the running back a lot of options. He's going to give the receiver a lot of options, you know, and I think it's going to be great. His offense is going to be amazing. One thing we talked about, you know, is like, why are you going to build something to give Russian offenses throughout your career? Whichever way you've been. That one part of it is just, you got to call the place. You got to call the run the place.

4:50:49As we're running back, you know, how much confidence, how much you'd say to this and give you a play collar that's going to stick with it and allow you and the offense to monitor you to a better room. It gives me a lot of excitement. You know, it's going to be, like I say, it's fun to play this offense. You know, and I think he does have some good things in the past game too. But like you said, he sticks with the run and that's the identity. You want an offense that has an identity, right? You're going to be looking everywhere else to find your identity. You want to have it. And so I think his offense has that. And the guy he builds and puts in there, it complements that identity. So I think it's going to be great. You mentioned you're 100% now, so you'll be full-go for training. That's the expectation. Look, I ain't going to answer any of the four. If it's up to me? Yes. Look, because I had this problem like two years, three years ago. I'm thinking I'm full-go. I think I'm ready to go. And then next year you know I'm on PUP. Hey, look, some stuff is above my pay-gray.

4:51:51But I don't know. Hopefully I can start. I think I'm ready to start, you know, at the beginning of training camp. But that's not up to me as I've learned. How do you feel about it? How do you feel about it? I wouldn't say that. I think I've been in some great organizations. And I think this organization is a great organization. And the training staff is great. And so they just want what's best for me, you know. And they're taking care of me, which that's what you want in an organization. And so that's where that comes from. Which I appreciate it. Like I really appreciate that. You know, because I'm a type of guy like I work really hard. So maybe sometime I'm blind to, you know, the danger of something. So I appreciate it. But like I said, if it's up to me, yeah, I'm out there. But never know. Well, any frustration for you during the getting into creativity, you know, dealing with rehab and not, you know, having a full season of paid for the production to go out there. Was there any part of that where you were like, cat, and wish, you know, had a different over market with the different situations, you know.

4:52:54Nah. I like it. I like how would I say this? I like it the hard way. But not, you know, I like it the hard way. I like it. I like trial and tribulations. So, I mean, the dice that I was given to roll was I was coming off a third Achilles. And that was, that was the Lord's plan. So it was beauty in that. Like I was comfortable. I was caught like there was multiple teams, you know, I wasn't, it wasn't like I didn't have any other team. But I was comfortable in sitting back and just enjoying the process, letting myself get fully healed. So whenever that team whoever I would sign with, who now is the charger, is going to get the best me, you know, and I think people all around the league know that like, okay, this guy, okay, is a high risk, high reward type thing, right?

4:53:55Not even a high risk, low risk because you, it's a business, right? So I forgot her last year. So not as much money and he's be throwing it. But I think everyone around the league knows that whenever I am on the field, the numbers don't lie. And so they know that. And a lot of teams were like, are here. You can, we give you this, but we want you to be healthy. So when I'm healthy, it's going to be great. The chance that I've been giving here, I'm so grateful. And I know that's going to be, they won't be, they won't regret it. Are you the type of person that likes to prove people wrong? Like you've run a couple of things like the high risk high reward, injury from, you know, are you the type of person that really tries to prove people wrong? No. I hear it. I see it. It's pretty cool. Like you'll never see me unless I'm just like in a bad mood. You never see me like, oh, like if I have a great game or a great year, like I have this wonderful year, I ain't going to go back and, you're like, yeah, yeah,

4:54:57what happened? No, because I don't care. Like you're eventually see, like I'm, like I'm a guy that's really good. So I ain't worry about that. But I'm proving myself right that I am one of the best in the league. Right? So forget all the naysayers and people that talk about being injury prone, because whenever I have this great year, it's going to be forgotten, you know, too. Why, why give that energy? Talk of Justin and all our fellow chance to be in the world. Yeah, I was, you know, we just, with him, you know, he's a great guy. I mean, he was in my class. I remember seeing him on, we were at an award show, because I was a dope walker or a finalist. And I'm like, I've seen him play, but I didn't know he was that tall. Like I didn't know he was like six, six. So when I first saw him, this was years ago in college. And I'm like, am this the tall, like, he's cool though. Like I, like I never really got to, I ain't going to lie. I thought he was going to be kind of, you know, you know, nerdy,

4:55:58but he's cool, dude, really bad. No offense to him. You know, I don't know that yet. I kind of just mentioned previously. I don't know my role. I don't know the engine out yet. So once we will get, you know, through the protocols and NFOPA, we'll talk about, you know, the schemes and everything. Right. So welcome when you were in Denver in the three, four, where did you find yourself most comfortable, most effective in my role? I played a lot of different positions in Denver. I mean, early in my year, I played zero. I played three, two, one. I mean, I definitely more comfortable in a shaded position, mainly being a three technique and five technique. That's why I found myself to be more comfortable, whether I'm standing up or I'm not, or there's runner or pass. Those seem to be my best, my best fits. And what is your impression of peak caros defense and in whole environment and Seattle from afar?

4:56:58From afar. It seems like he holds in on defense a lot. I can't really say too much about that. Yeah, I don't know. I know peak caros very little. So I'm just trying to figure out more. And I'll give you a better answer later. What's the reputation around the league? Hard to see. You know, hard knows, hard hat type of team. Definitely on a little more lack side as opposed to being, you know, stuck up or military style. And which is definitely good because then they, this program is one of a lot of football games. They've been super successful for many years. As long as I've been alive and as long as I've been watching football. And definitely this has been a good program. And peak caros has been a hell of a coach for a long time. Remember he and back in his college days. So I'm looking forward to experiencing that. So while. Yeah, I know you said you don't know yet what your role can be. But what kind of player are you that you don't understand? Do you have a watch from the Denver? What kind of player does he have to get? Definitely a high motor. Definitely not a one trick point type of player.

4:57:58I like to attack. No, whether it's first or first to before now. I like to attack. I'm always on the ply pressure. I'm definitely just a high motor guy. My opinion. Maybe. Are they already under sin for me? I've been nice to meet you. Nice to meet you. Yeah, this is not a team that really makes big splash sign in. It's in brand new. Did you think going into it that Seattle would be in play? No, not at all. It's kind of like being a kid at the candy store here. You know, got a whole bunch of different options coming at you. You're hearing a whole bunch of different crazy things. And you know, you only get to choose one. And this is the place that we both chose each other. And I mean, I'm loving see out so far. I like these colors. What, why did you have to do in Seattle and see some season? Not much. Just kind of just drive around the city exploring. Get down to the market a little bit. I want to get on the Ferris wheel do some more like touristy type things, you know. I'm new to the city and I got a lot to learn about city.

4:59:00Larry. Yeah, there's been a lot of comparisons that you did Michael Bennett. I wonder if you know Michael Bennett at all. I know Michael Burr. Bennett, like, I don't know nothing about it, but besides his style of play. But I'm honored to be considered in the same conversation as him in a style of play. You know, he's a Hall of Fame type of deep lime and that I've known about since I was a kid. I mean, last time he played here, I was in high school. So, you know, it's cool to kind of came full circle a little bit watching him on TV. And now I'm being kind of compared to him in a way. You know, I mean, I'm not touching the surface of Michael Bennett. You know, he's a Hall of Famer and I'm not there yet. So, you know, I just have to keep doing my due diligence to be a better player. David. Hey, Dream out. Welcome to Seattle. I know you get to play several seasons for Vic Fangio in the three four style defense. And Seattle's playing a similar system now dating back to last year. I did a defensive line and what do you think is most important to be successful in that system? Maybe fundamentals or just playing style to be successful?

5:00:03Um, just from what I learned being gap sound and being patient has always been the biggest thing. And that's how we've been successful when I was in Denver. Um, just kind of like relying on each other. I know that sounds kind of cliche, but like this kind of like the, the realm of being in the three four defense, you got to really rely on the, the guys behind you and the guys on the side of you to really make their, to do their job to make your job easier. Bob. At the end, Dream up. You're, you're going to have a state class that you didn't start playing football to you or junior high school. You know, I get to play football and with that, I always love football first. It was just kind of just playing it out. You know, I love to hoot, but you know football was definitely about calling and giving. I was 265 pound powerful and I was like, I'm six three some change. So you know, I kind of chose the route that you got gave me. And now I'm not six eight.

5:01:03My speed up. Yeah. You can just talk a little bit about that. I think the same. You know, just for a standpoint, like I always get like over, over shadowed over look, you know, I'm saying like, I feel like I do a lot more than what can be seen by the, the eyes of the inexperienced, you know, scout. And I do a lot of different dynamic things that help make place for others. You know, I'm definitely an active player. I'm always doing something whether in a run or pass game. So, you know, I think that goes on notice sometimes. And I'm looking forward to playing people on notice. What do you like to do outside of football? Big gamer. I'm definitely, I'm again to a lot of chess lately.

5:02:05So just to expand my brain. I'm trying to get into reading, but if it's not supported later, I really not interested in reading that much, but mainly just video gaming in chess. And then when we write and say your name, do you prefer gray or gray? Well, I mean, you can say, you can say Dremont Jones, I mean, but like just, I'm like personally just call me Dre, because it's easy, because people like to f my name up a lot. Like a lot, and they call me Dremont. I don't allow you put a Dremont, say my name or Dremont T, whatever you want to say, I just go by Dre to keep it simple. Thank you. Michael Sean. Hey Dre, what's specifically you bringing to the C-Law as a pass book? Some of the new era of the pass question, you know, someone who's on the little lighter side of the average day. And bringing that explosiveness, that quickness, someone who's great with their hands, someone who's very extensible, and someone who's a go-getter when it comes to the run-and-pass game. Appreciate it. Thank you.

5:03:05John Shedder said after the trade, or after the signing, that you actually got to date, they wanted him to trade last year, and I still have to trade. But Denver said no. It was that something that's having your awareness at all. Yeah, I was aware. I mean, like, shit. Maybe flatter if they want to be even like that. Yeah, I am flatter. I mean, shit, they should have just traded me from the jump. But it was cool to, I guess, it kind of came full circle for Seattle a little bit. I was including to the trade and Denver said no, and then Denver kind of, I don't want to say that word, but Denver didn't pay my part respect, so I'm here because they respected me from the jump. All right, anything else, guys? Thank you. I think it's just not getting too high, not getting too low, you know, staying in a nice, even medium, and attacking each play at a time, no matter what the score is, and doing it to the best of your ability. What ails this offense the most? I think just saying ahead of the chains and getting past those third downs,

5:04:10converting on those third downs, I mean, that's what we got to be better at. At the end of the day, we got to put him in zone. We're not doing that, we're not doing our job. So, are you guys creating more explosive plays as an offense? Right, I think you stick with it. You know, the explosive plays are going to come, and now we just got to trust that, and they'll be there for us for sure. Coach Sins has been here for high sand loads over the many, many years. He's been with this program now. What sort of his message to your group right now, or when you're turning to him, what is he saying as far as how to get through this? Yeah, so I think it's just really just coming in and attacking every day as you would, regardless, and staying even through hardship and attacking it the same way every day. That's really all you can do, and you just get a little better every day and see where it takes you. The way things are already we're setting up, but then also the way Jason Simmons was calling the game on Saturday,

5:05:11it seemed like Titans are going to be a big part of this as you guys are trying to pull out, and what role do you think you guys are going to have in trying to get this offense? Yeah, I think the role is always trying to help the offense move the ball, and whether they were called upon to do that, and the past game or the run game, we just got to step up and do our job at a high level, and whatever you asked from us, we just got to do it at a high level, and let the offense go. We have some leaders on the offense. Some of the leaders have to say Gus is a big leader. I mean, he's been doing it for a while, and someone that everyone trusts is going to do his job at a high level, and I think we have Hudson's a good leader too as well. Obviously, he's a quarterback, so he takes on that leadership role, and I think we just have a good amount of leaders throughout the offense. We were told George might be fairly close to getting back what we mean to get him back in the mix with the Titans. Yeah, it'd be great. I mean, George is a great athlete, so having him out there can only help.

5:06:11You know, we're really excited about him, and what he can do on the field, so it'd be great. Yeah, I mean, just when you look at the schedule he asks for us, and how he takes care of our body, you know, just the diligence, and situational football, Coach McCarty, man, he's a great coach. You see, by the day, just us being ready, and this week went opener, and I'm excited to build on that. I feel like I always feel good, not always, but I mean, this week one, this week one, something definitely fresh, but you know, just got to continue to build on that and take care of my body, and we want to be feeling good in December and January.

5:07:11Oh, it definitely felt great, you know, it was going to touch down, had a bunch of emotions, kind of had to lay there and soak it all in, but you know, it's glad to be back. Very time and front, and first half, two working Saturday day, I think those guys, you know, played their tell off day, they competed, I think we had a great plan, and we went out and executed it. When you were sitting on a bench in between ways, would you think about Mike's ever staying back to the way that they put on the tournament? Oh, wow, I mean, I think it was late in the second quarter, and I think they had like 30 yards, passing 30 yards, rushing out, like, many boys are out there playing, but I mean, went against that defense offseason, and I know how difficult it is to play them, to prepare for them, but you know, they stepped up and answered a call. And we had the best receiver unit in the nation, so we kind of were kind of jack of all trades, so.

5:08:11You've been moved around the office and passed a different things, emotions, different trade and ways to get open, but has that increased in the ownership telling us here, or is it kind of the same as the benefit of the business? Probably stay away from talking about scheme stuff. Sorry. What was it that Jeremiah did that you think enabled to be in? I don't know. Just coming in every single day and competing. That's really what we're challenged to do, as buck guys, when we walk into the way we were coach, make your supposed to be there, show up, and show out every single day, and you're not allowed to have a step back, you're not allowed to have an off day. He took care of all his, you know, the non-negotiables of this program. He was never late. He made his way every single day. He gave his 100% effort. Not the end of the day, he was just winning a lot of competitions and just grinding. So, yeah. I'm gonna let you, let you, let us, let you, thank you very much, great a lot about Raymond. Raymond didn't get a chance to do a lot this spring. What stood out to you, even when he was on the field this spring, that basically, I think he can be a legit, a bad player for you.

5:09:13Well, yeah, first and foremost, he got voted on by his peers to the leadership committee on our team, which is a group of about, you know, 16 to 20 of our guys who the team looks to as leaders. So obviously, you can see how people think of him on this team. They think highly of him. And he comes in every day as a very fiery competitive nature. And, you know, he puts in really hard work and days in and days out. So, even though he hasn't seen the field too much yet, we have no concern that when he does stuff on to the field, he's gonna make a great impact. He's only been here here. Yeah. I think last summer, I'm about him. Like, Darn has never speculated, guys. He can be on a leadership committee. I have to check it for about six, five days. Yeah, just his ability to be able to, you know, talk a good game, but also back it up. Not in a sense of playing football, but more in a sense of, we're gonna be the hardest working team on the field. We're gonna go in day in, day out. I'm gonna beat you even when I don't feel healthy, even when I don't feel good, all that type of stuff. It's all an mentality. I'm not gonna... From far away, it looks like...

5:10:13Violin, that just looks like... Kind of looks a little bit like young people. Right. You were here with Dick. Like, do you see that in him? Like, I'm not trying to compare it to him. Like, I'm gonna pretend I'm wrong, okay? Do you see that a little bit in the way that he can shift around? Yeah, he definitely is very fluid about the way he moves. And we see it in his, you know, his routes and his releases. So, you know, when all the White receivers are, you know, in the film room, and, you know, he's getting crapped, he's doing all this body movement stuff. It's like, okay, we could see he got a little sum to him. So, it's just about bringing him along, you know, he wasn't, you know, he just got here. It's his first year here, kind of built on a long... There's steps you gotta take, but he's definitely training in the right direction. I've been thinking a lot of teams get talent for whatever reason you guys seem to develop... Developers, receivers better than anyone. What goes on out there that somehow helps Ohio State keep placing guys in the NFL? We play Denzel, Davidson, Ibn Olsen, Germain Matthews, Jordan Hancock, Layton Ransom, Caleb Downs. That's really what it is. It's a BIA getting us better every single day. So, tremendous credit to the defense and the ability to be able to develop...

5:11:15It's just good on good every single day. That's the way you get better. How much do you want the coaches to get open like that? I mean, we definitely have a strong second there, I would say this year. But, you know, it's just, it's not just their talent that makes them special. It's their ability to go hard every single day. They show up every single day with a competitive nature. And, you know, we're going back and forth on the field every single day. They'll be bigger and spin that each other a little bit. But, it's all love at the end of the day. We appreciate them for getting us better. Let's question a method. You do a lot of things this offense have, where Brandon seemed like a guy who used so much. Whether it will move around, whether it's just things or anything. You see kind of that same worst-how-filled and Brandon is kind of something you do. Yeah, absolutely. Brandon, you know, he came up, played running back for a lot of his life, played a little quarterback here and there. You know, now he's received very. He can do a lot of different things. So, we just try to put him in a position where he can be the most successful in the position that makes him the most successful.

5:12:17Or just the ball on his hand. So, we try to do that for him. And a bunch of other guys in the program who thrive with that. All right, Michael. Well, I think it's good. We talk a lot. We communicate a lot. Pretty snap. I think it's good with everybody. Same with payin' there. Later those guys. Yeah. When you look at what he's there, he has a hoodie last year. How much do you take that, try and use it? How much do you also have to pay in part-time? Oh. Man, I try to prepare like him. I learned that from him. He prepared when he prepared here intentional. So, that's definitely something I try to do like him better. Like you said, I'm leading. So, but when it comes to preparing and being intentional with studying and how I prepare for practice, I definitely took that to it. Anything from leadership's hand-week? No, I'll code you lead. I'll tell you a different type of person in here. Those big cheeks of him. When you don't know something wrong, I don't know something. He writes. Where's that come from? Just being honest.

5:13:17Like, you can't be more than those guys when they ask you what happened to you and try to lie. You get a film room and it's obviously lying here. So, it's a good idea to be honest like that. Now, how much do you know to be put in? If you don't know something, you know what I'm going to do. I can't believe the last time that happened. So, that's a good thing. Those big cheeks feel the Cody though for leadership's standpoint. What is he taking out the door with it, you know, mean our mail? Somebody's got a feel in that slot. I think there's definitely some big scene to feel. This Cody was a great player, a great leader. He's like with the quarterback and defense. There's definitely some big scene to feel. And like, Coach Lauren, I said though, you got to be who you are or not. Yeah, that guy was right. Yeah, that guy was right. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. When did you feel like you've lost him last year? Or they could truly count on you and stuff? I mean, you remember how you came along? I think it started in like fall camp just flashed in there.

5:14:18I got to like the first day, I was wearing a wrong side on this hallline. I don't know what it was like when I got the first try. I'm just being great. I like it. I like it's personality. I like them all feeling. That's a poor. Yeah. And the life backwards, what kind of is there in being different as a responsibility for the use of the system or to get up in his own heart and fantasy? Oh, we just, we just learned it right now. We just worked it out. We just worked it out. We just learned to do so. What do you think about CJ Hicks and what he can do in this defense? I think CJ Hicks said what he could do in his defense? Or just what he can do this season. You can do this season? I think CJ will pop up this season for sure. I think there's definitely going to be one of his years for sure. Got to. We think it's the biggest difference between friends who have not been touched. And what do you think? To me, it's no different. They both, they both coach you and they both, like, they hard on you, but they want you to be great.

5:15:21So I don't think there's no difference. We've been talking about how, you're looking at what you guys can do and fitting it. You think Judges want to find a plug and touch you guys? No, I don't think so. I think Sonny is a great year. First before anything. Sonny is a great year. I feel like he's like the voice. He can be thinking something Sonny just can't worry about for the whole team. I understand. So Sonny is definitely a great year to be a great year. A nice legacy. This year's the Art domain. It has passed in 2012. No, but, I haven't even been touched yet. Only about a week ago. So? I mean I was just 18 years in a couple years ago, but the second point is that when I was flipping at The Ferry East, I was left behind but I want thelamas and on top of a lot of things.

5:16:21But I'm curious, and what you really think about that for the Cambrian army to be successful? They don't own and like they not own their stuff so Sunday one of those guys who he's only stuff so he leave everybody listening There's obviously been long-term of linebackers success of a high-reset. Say it again. We've been a long string of linebackers success at Ohio State and I need to look at you know guy like Sunny taking that next step this year. How motivated are you to be part of that lineage and be one of the great linebackers to play at a high-reset? I'm ready for it. I mean, that's what I'm here for. I'm just telling you to alleviate any concerns that you may have about the potential of having to deal with those same problems. Those form of concern. Yeah, that's a great question. A lot of the information and a lot of things before like during the time of those older players are a lot different than the knowledge and information that we have now. I mean, we're able to treat concussions and also back then is like if you got a concussion they were sending you right back into the game.

5:17:23So now it's a lot different. We got a protocol and it gives your brain time to heal and everything. So I think things are setting plays now where it's a lot better than before and that time where we're making problems later on. So that's why I'm not really too concerned about it. Did you then do how many recommended to you? Say it again. How much recommended by the trainer or Michael Stacc? No, I just wanted to get into a new helmet. I mean, people have a refer to they also don't know how to meet and have said how there's a number of helmets are better than other helmets right now. So I just wanted to check those out and see what they are. Is this home cushion any more severe than the others you had? No, that's one of the other things. I mean, I'm not going to give a whole seminar on concussions over here. But no, it's not necessarily more severe. Each concussion, like just what I learned, each concussion is its own specific concussion. And you gotta give that time the heel and then once that's heeled and ready to go once you get back out here, you're good. So it's not like concussions are building on top of each other. Like you give it time and heel. But I think like before what guys were getting trouble with the long time ago is like they get a concussion, not fully healed and they go right back out there and playing.

5:18:28Densel, can you see a side or maybe part of it? Could you just reflect on how you've grown since showing up here in fairly 21? Did the player first start making it? Yeah, I've been here for a little while now. I've been enjoying every second of it. I'm always trying to be a captain and trying to lead these guys as best as I can. And I definitely feel that I've grown vocally and just trying to help build the team up and build myself up. So I'm just trying to do anything I can to help this team. How about in a concussion situation like this? You're so close to reminding your brother. Do you have to sort of involve the family's decision on how to get going? Yeah, definitely. They came down with me. When the team was here doing meetings, I was driving up to a Pittsburgh meeting with the concussion specialists and everything. And they were with me and just easing their mind. That's the biggest thing. easing their mind. They're all there worried and everything. But they'll be okay. We saw the play with the Elijah Mottor and your head is driving. We saw the play at practice. Did you think you'd be out for two weeks after that?

5:19:30I mean, I was good. It was that day that I was kind of had a headache and everything. But I was pretty much good after that. But it was just about going through the protocol. I mean, there was no rush back. We weren't playing regular season games. So I mean, I was just really getting the time to heal. It wasn't any rush. You both are already in camp and still had a helmet to helmet. From your perspective, it has to be an expert. Are those doing what they're intended to do? You know, you got to take care of it when he got to. You know what I'm saying? Like, guys are still getting concussions and getting the wearing. Yeah, it's definitely still a physical sport. So I mean, concussion happened regardless. I know if you were in a guardian cap or not. I think it could be looked at too. I know and just talked about it on the guardian cap. I don't think in the back that is as much padding as I would like. But I feel it could be looked at. But I think you get a concussion whether you were in a guardian cap or not. So I mean, stuff happens.

5:20:30This is a physical game. Sorry. Just to clarify this, you said you're going to get any helmet. Also, wear the guardian cap during the game? No. I'm not going to. You feel good about this game helmet that you've been using. Yeah. What's the name of the game and the brand of helmet? Like any details you have? Oh, I'm not sure the brand of name yet. I'll have to get it from those guys inside. But you guys will definitely be seeing this soon though. I haven't got it just yet. How do you feel about not playing in a pretty city game? You have to say as your career is going to be good. I want to say it's not a big deal. But I don't feel any pressure any like, oh, I just needed to play in a pretty season game. I feel that's a great opportunity for the younger guys to get out there and showcase what they're able to do. Well, I've still been practicing and playing and working out and getting ready for the season. So I mean, I know the game. I'm looking forward to that first game. And I'm not really concerned about not being able to get a snap of the preseason again. Do you think of how MJ did feeling that he'd be particularly during the joint practice as a instep or something? Yeah, MJ is the number one corner. I mean, you guys see it.

5:21:30He's going to be big for us this year. And I think that's what's special about this team. We got three number one corners myself, MJ and Greg. I thought we all number one's and we able to do different things out there on the field. And one guy's out and another guy can step in and not lose track or not lose pace on what we got going on.