Positive Talk with Kevin McDonald and Sandy Banfield

0:00There is a moment in every life when you decide to rise, to stand taller than your fear, to speak louder than your doubt, to chase the vision that sets your soul on fire. This is that moment and here. We walk it together with stories that awaken voices that inspire and truce that set you free. This is positive talk with Kevin MacDonald where hope has a voice, and that voice is yours. And Logan, I got a tag, folks. You know, I say this all the time, Michelle, I know, but this is going to be an extraordinary show. And then not the sum of them are, they all are, but there are some that just resonate with me on a more meaningful level. And our guest today, she's one of those, if you know what I mean. Yes, she is. And so we are going to magically go into the time tunnel here, because in her world,

1:00it's 10 o'clock tomorrow. I got to ask you, Sandy, did we have a good evening? You did, yes, definitely. Andy Benfield is our guest. And she is a business coach and she is a manifesto like nobody's business. And she can help you live your best life in a myriad of ways. And I told her before the show began when we talked originally, I said, I manifested, Michelle. And she knew exactly what I meant. Didn't she, Michelle? Yeah, she did. She understood it. The vibration and the other place that your brain takes you, where you're more connected to your soul who's speaking. It's not thought. It's more of a feeling. So what do you think about that, Sandy? You have so many experiences like that. Yes, I love talking about this topic. So just firstly, you just want to say, thank you so much for having me. I'm really grateful to be here. What you're talking about is what I call your intuition. That's the fundamental thing that we are connecting to

2:04is the the core source of what is within us. And when we really slow down or when we can sort of even in the crazy big like noisy world that we're all in, if we can just take those little micro moments and come back to that part of us, that's when we can start manifesting from, when we can start listening to what it is that we truly desire. And that's what I teach my work. So, and I got to ask you, either this is true or I need to be on medication, but since 2002, when I started doing the radio shows, everything has lined up in the time that it's supposed to happen for me, including Michelle joining the show a couple of years ago. And all of the of the things from going from KLA Y and Tacoma to KK and W and Seattle to the Brushwood Media and network now to having 2700 plus shows out there, it's all been like manifest destiny. And by design,

3:06does that have, is that possible? Absolutely. That means you're just on that right vibration. So the more that you tune into that, the more of that you're pulling in towards you. So as soon as you have that kind of connection and you're like, okay, yeah, this is happening and you're trusting it, you're believing it, you go more into opening to that vibration and then all these things will start landing in your lap and you're like, okay, and you're also more aware, you're seeing the signs, you're being more aware of what is actually happening rather than sort of being dismissive. We've all got disability. No one, not one of us is any more special than the other. It's just once you wake up to it and once you sort of see those signs, you start to see that they're happening and it's just sort of, it's like a domino effect. It's remarkable when you start looking and you pay attention because a lot of us spend our time, we're so busy and we're going here and we're doing that and and stuff. But there are moments in time and Michelle, when, when Dana, who's a mutual coach of ours, when she called you, that was a moment in time

4:09for you. Would you explain that? Yeah, I would describe that as like a time stamp. It's a core memory. If we watch the movie Inside Out, how they have those certain memories that are kind of what have been the biggest building blocks. And that's when I realized that moment that my intuition was much greater than I was aware of. So touching into that brought intuition and awareness right there, smack dab in front of my face and I trusted it and I followed it and now I'm here and I've never looked back and I never thought I would be doing something like this. I never thought like the impossible became reality and I didn't really have to fight or force or push or pull. I just let it be. Which is something Kevin taught me when I first started with him and he used to drive me crazy because we love to complicate things and it's frustrating to think that it's so simple but isn't it so simple in a way? It is really simple. I think the thing that I find a lot with

5:12the clients that I work with is we do over complicate things. We let what I call the mind monkeys get involved. So we might have that what I when you have that intuition and I'm going to sort of give you an example of how people can sort of you know really kind of recognize it. We've all had it, especially when my kids and maybe when we're younger as well, you'll remember a time when you actually have the absolute knowing about something you might you might the partner might be when you got offered a job, it might be when you found your home. That absolute knowing without any questions asked like Michelle you said you knew and you trusted that is it. You followed you didn't let any of those what I call the mind monkeys like jump in and make you sort of get you off course. So when you really trust that and you follow through it is easy, it is seamless. It does all just fall into place because you're not allowing the other the energies to come into kind of get you off course and that's when it just lines up and it seems very simple. It's just we have to really really what you know it seems you know we're on a radio station but you really have to tune in and really trust and follow through on what that is lead where that's leading you.

6:15And Sandy tell me if this if this is true because I believe it to be true and therefore I don't believe it to be true anymore. I know it to be true. I had a had a friend and we were doing learning about meditation and mindfulness and all these different things and he came to me one day out of the blue and he said I want you to go to a metaphysical bookstore and I want you to pin that you can go to Barnes and Noble or any of those places and you can go through the aisles and he said I want you to buy the first book that speaks to you and I said I have no idea what you're talking about but I went and the book Journey of Souls which has become a fundamental a book in my life was there and I didn't question it I just picked it up and bought it took it home and that was the end of that and then I and and stuff is that is that divine inspiration is that what that's all about. That is your intuition and that's what I sort of teach my work

7:16is when you are not overthinking things it's the first thing that comes to your mind that you go in you walk into a shop I mean I work with crystals all the time when I teach with back crystals you walk into a crystal shop you will go and be drawn to the crystal that's all the book or the article card deck that you need at that time and you don't know why but you just go in you don't question it you know there's different techniques you can do I usually just you'll just be drawn to something but if you've got like say a tray of crystals I would just hover my hand over the crystals I don't need to do that now but that's why it's sort of teaching my student and you'll just go with what you're what you're what you're drawn to and the first thing without questioning is what you need so that is a prime example of what you deserve with this and once you kind of do that more and you trust that you don't even question it you just go in I will just go in and I will pick up a book or pick up a card deck I will do whatever my intuition is telling me and I just I don't question it anymore you know at all and the same thing happened to me I went to a psychic fair and I was late and they were closing down and one of the I wanted to get

8:20some oracle cards or some no do we do got some some sort of deck of cards and I didn't know what and so I went to the lady and she was packing up and she disassembled her credit card machines so she couldn't do that and stuff and I and I said I'm looking for a deck of you know and the deck that I can use and she said well look in that box and so I opened up the box and this appeared in and at the very top and she said oh that's brand new and I and I said well I need to buy this and and I only had like 12 or 13 dollars and she said okay that's enough and stuff so but those things happen if you pay attention to them don't they? absolutely yeah absolutely your awareness just becomes bigger you are sort of just working this beautiful energy and that's kind of what I hope to do through my work and through my teaching so just remind we've all got this bitterness and the more that we kind of tune into that we become

9:23more aware of our surroundings we really start trusting ourselves I think in this big wide world of the moment we've got so much noise happening and we keep looking externally for everything and I think the really key important lesson that I was want to remind people is actually we've got all this bitterness and it's just learning to trust that and to learning to trust those experiences you know just trust that guidance is your own internal compass and we've kind of forgotten about it over over many many years you know how ancient you know wisdom has kind of been forgotten on the way oh exactly it's a weirdest thing it's like muscle testing are you are you familiar with muscle testing I'm sure yeah and I did this today brichelle and because I was contemplating having surgery on on a part of me and so I did now muscle testing for me as where you take your two your fingers and you intertwine them so that like they're interlocked and and so I tested it to see if I should have the surgery and it said no you shouldn't and but

10:29for me so I canceled it for me that me that's a validation that that's what I should do but why don't we believe it why don't trust it um it's a really good question I think not not always that we're trusting it but we've just got so much noise going on around us and I think because of that we'd not read we don't really give ourselves a lot of time we don't give ourselves a lot of what I would say permissioned to sort of actually have that that time just to slow down and once you slow down and you can listen otherwise you do have the noise of the world or you have the kind of negative self-talk you have all these other things that are popping in um that kind of can I just think through you of course but there's ways that you can just bring yourself back without you know there's lots of lots of different tools and I can actually share some with you today of how you can just bring yourself back to start listening and once you start like it's you know it is like the muscle testing once you start flexing those muscles a bit more you don't really always need to use the tools you can just start doing it automatically so like now over

11:30many many years of doing this work I don't necessarily need to do the tools that I teach so sometimes help me if I've been for and of course because we're all human um but yeah it's just learning and it's like training yourself it's like you know you're going off course but just bringing yourself back back in line I got to ask you this because whenever one of those things happens I will tend to I do I'm not a big prayer and I'm not a big meditator but I do talk to my guides and so I'll say thank you do they appreciate that do you think absolutely um a lot of this is just it's having confirmation so once you've had the experience you know it makes you confirm what's happened to you if you have another experience you know and you say thank you to your guides they're going to definitely going to be there they're there all the time um supporting you that's what they're there for so yes and it's just we're recognising and um yeah recognising that they they are there these experiences are happening to you that it's not you just going crazy that you know you become when you become more intuitive you you work or where you walk through your life more intentionally

12:33and so you're not so reactive to things you're actually you know being more open more where it's just a much better a beautiful experience to have in your life than just being reacting to what's going on around you it is for me it's it's marvelous Michelle how about for you are you discovering that more and more yeah it's very peaceful and um I noticed things that I didn't before and I was thinking to myself because I used to always think well my intuition it was wrong and if you're listening to intuition it's not wrong it never is wrong it's there to teach you and that can be persuade however our brains and our little monkey minds like to pick it apart but there there's peace in living like that and your everything around you changes people treat you different um your your relationships change um it changes you at a foundational level when you follow your intuition because you're actually doing what is best for you um and we naturally try to fight that probably because of fear which is normal but um acceptance and forgiveness

13:38I've been hearing come up a lot and I've thought to myself how powerful those two words really are when they're in your day-to-day life so I want to take this break and then I would love to hear your your thoughts and your learnings on um how important it is when you forgive and um just trust in in who you are and figuring that out in in a very non-judgmental way um and then I want to talk about your company tips up Kevin you take us to it I will take take it to break but I just wanted to say and I just forgot what it was that I was oh I know I had a coach who helped me find my way to understand how this all works I highly I did I say highly recommend that you find somebody who resonates with you and Sandy is a wonderful teacher and uh she is an australia I can't check it out but she's an australia but she can she can do it virtually and she can help you

14:42because we all have it within us we just don't really know and we told our whole lives no you don't well know what yes we do we'll be right back for way too long we've allowed shadows to dictate our steps our clamor of division the whisper of fear and the harsh grip of hate they've tried to define us but this moment this is our moment of truth we remember who we truly are not just separate islands but a vast ocean of shared humanity we declare our independence from the narratives that have pulled us apart we choose curiosity over judgment amphathy over in difference understanding over accusation this isn't about ignoring our differences it's about celebrating the strength woven into our tapestry it's about remembering that progress isn't built on exclusion but on common ground so let the banners of kindness fly high but the anthem of unity

15:48ring out this is our declaration our independence from what limits us our freedom to truly connect because together we are stronger and together we are free and this declaration is brought to you by positive talk radio and welcome back to positive talk my name is Kevin Michelle's right there Sandy bandfield is with us and Sandy I got to tell you and when you see something really cool do you give it every time I'm telling that I get goosebumps which means me that it's real and it's true is that a good indication that's a really good indication yes yep and Michelle I'm sorry I didn't mean to cut you off but I got excited so it's okay no and I'm going to kind of rephrase my question because really I want what what I want to know that of what you've learned what are some of the main things that a person needs to look inward on and work on to be in tune with their intuition rather than just the mind and feelings um that's

16:55going to work on uh first of all it's just giving themselves the time whatever they've got it doesn't have to mean you have to be up a quiet mountain front hour to go meditate if you've only got a few minutes a day you can start there um when I work my clients I would do a lot of journaling that journaling is a really amazing tool that everyone can start with and you can just start with two minutes you can start with ten minutes but I make sure that they put it into their diary they don't have to do it every single day they can just block out five minutes once a week and just keep that as an appointment like you with a doctor's appointment and then they can start just allowing themselves that time just to actually slow down um if if meditations your tool it's finding the thing that you resonate with like Kevin said he doesn't really meditate so maybe meditation isn't his thing journaling or going into a bookstore getting yourself an oracle card deck or just allowing yourself to start with five minutes and then you can build upon that and build upon that and once you start to see that you're giving yourself this time this spaciousness

17:57this sort of time becomes bigger spaciousness comes around you and you can start really start allowing that time for you to really start to tune in so there's many many tools that I can sort of share with you but journaling is a really good place to start meditating is a really good place to start that's very good advice and you have a website which is businesslifemagic.com it is absolutely stunning by the way I love it it makes it makes me feel magical just looking at it as that when people come in tune with their intuition and they start having all these things hit them and they maybe feel like they all the sudden don't know what to do is that where you are able to step in and help them through the work that you started yeah absolutely so I run a lot of in-person events I'm actually going to be putting a lot of those online next year so all my lovely people in America and I'm obviously in Australia but I have people in the UK as well they'll be online and I'll be doing a manifesting course and a vision board course next year so

18:59a lot of the time what I find with my clients is that they start tuning in but they just they don't necessarily have the clarity and so it's kind of combining your intuition allowing you to find that clarity because once we have that clarity that's when you can start manifesting from so we can talk about manifesting in a moment if you want me to delve into that bit more yeah it's really once they sort of they sort of start to get in tune with themselves I sort of help them kind of unravel how to really start using the intuition to start trusting it a bit more and then the next stage is helping them get the clarity so that then they can go and manifest what they want so it's sort of like a gentle sort of journey that I sort of take them on through my work so yeah and it is a journey it is absolutely and it is if you look at it in the I don't say the right way if you look at it in a way that it can be a lot of fun and your life becomes a magical adventure and at least that's been my experience of of life in the last 20 years is is up or down

20:06in or out it's been a magical adventure and and I don't even know where it came from where to come from Sandy I don't know I don't know yeses for that I'm afraid but but I think just once you start following that path and following that journey it does become exciting because you're just what's next you know and you're trusting and it's like hey this door's opening what's what's next for me you know even the opportunity for me to come onto the show that's a new door for me that's me trusting and stepping forward and things that are kind of unfolding from me next year I'm just kind of a lot of the work that I have done through you'll see on my website it's all unfolded purely through intuition and by things unfolding and sometimes I sort of like we'll start a project it's like my journals for instance I was just doing that I was sort of a free download from my clients and then I had people saying to me I'd love this as a book and then from now where I had just the vision of the six just the covers I didn't even know the content I so I had all those kind of mapped out and I just followed my intuition and that's where these things have unfolded and then now they're on Amazon and you know people are loving them the same thing with the other

21:10products and the that I've got coming out next year it's just it's just been this journey and it is magical and it is fun and it it is exciting when you sort of like trust that process you know like Michelle said she got offered the the job working with you and you know you trusted that so it's just it becomes this beautiful beautiful journey and every person's journey is completely different and that's the other exciting thing there's it's different for every single person yep Sandy I have to ask you because I want to take it back a little bit on what okay I need to figure out how to frame this out loud um was it the intuition that guided you to realizing where your path followed and got you into doing everything that you're doing now or um was it going through the journey that you realized um your capability of having that intuition and then it it took off from there if that makes sense yeah I think I started this work so do you want me to go back into what sort of what happened to I love to hear that yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah when I look back

22:15I we're and if you look back you will know and children have actually one of the best manifestors and the best at following the intuition you know if you if you look back when when I was younger I've been manifesting and I've been using my intuition but since I was child I just didn't know what it was or it didn't really wasn't really in my I guess my awareness and so I started my personal development journey probably like my late 20s early 30s and so I was sort of already sort of starting to be aware and reading these personal development books and my first book was called Attitude is everything and it was just a really small book but it was just kind of my mean dip in my toe and then when I was 32 I had a near death experience and for me that was something was very traumatic but I'd already sort of been on this personal development journey but that near death experience is what then I think was just shone the light on my intuition I'm not saying that experience would have been any different how I trusted my intuition but I ignored my intuition that day with that particular individual who unfortunately attacked me and from that moment on

23:20words I was like I'm never gonna not trust my intuition ever again but in the work that I've done and what's unfolded since then I obviously don't want other people to have to go through severe trauma in order to trust their intuition so it's just been part of that journey and I've just been trusting it for my own healing but because of that experience the tools that I've learned on my own healing journey and the intuition is the thing that I've come back to a time and time again felt that I really wanted to to teach other people without having to go through trauma themselves and so during lockdown in 2020 again I was journaling and I was like I've got all these tools or this experience or this life experience and that's where this business business life magic unfolded and I'd actually had the handle for the name five years before I just bought the URL again I can't tell you why it just popped into my head I bought the URL I had all my handles on Instagram it was sat there as an empty account and then I always thought at the time I would turn into some sort of blog or something and then 20 to my knee it was just clear clear as day it was like

24:21but all of this that united together and helped people really I guess that my mission is just to help people really combat themselves and really live the life that they want it can be as big or as small as they want but as long as they're capable of achieving it that's kind of bit in a nutshell I suppose that's amazing that is a great story and and for if somebody if you're out there in the audience and you're going gosh what is intuition I don't I have this monkey thing that's going on in my head and and stuff but and let me give you a quick example and you tell me whether this is this is true or not you are in your home and you say I need to go to the store and so you you start to head out the door and then you remember then you say you hear a voice in your head that says don't forget your cell phone and you go oh I'm just going to the store it's not a big deal I don't need it and you leave without your cell phone I guarantee you chances are you're going to need your cell phone so argue with yourself when you get that message just do it

25:27and and and not and not worry about it and yeah is that a good rule of thumb that's a really good rule of thumb I think there's there's a real difference because we have a lot of mind chatter today and especially if you're someone who has like neurodivergent brain I've got like undiagnosed ADHD I've got lots of thoughts going on so it's really like you know to know what the difference is between what's all this sort of you know all these thoughts that are coming in racing in what a good way that I describe it is those thoughts are very sort of rushed it sort of panic you've like got to do this I've got to do that I've got to when your intuition comes to you like that thought if like don't or don't go out the door or I shouldn't do this sort of you know it's really instant it's really clear it's very soft it's kind of not a rushed panic kind of you know some people might just get it as a feeling not necessarily a voice I get it as both I get it got what I call it got feeling and I also I also hear but it's just very sort of like calm just crystal clear and that's how I sort of describe it to you whereas you've got a lot of mind chatter it's kind of like

26:28busyness and panic I suppose it's a bit different and as you work through it you and you develop the muscle then that voice becomes a little louder and the chatter becomes less real absolutely yeah the more that it just becomes in tune and then you know the other thing is if so you have a thought then you can just feel it in your body you will know and I teach this to my kids you know in a different way around sort of equal and things but you will feel it in your body how does it feel when you're thinking about something so I do this with my clients they say I want to go and do this I want to go move and then I just get them to talk for a little while and ask to say to them you know tell me a bit more about that and you can see it in their body they'll you know you talk about the muscle testing they show that physically if they're really excited about something they'll sit up they'll talk talking they'll be like you know if they're like oh yeah I really want to move house and I'm really want to do this it's that's a different they'll sort of you know sort of come in on themselves so that's also an indicator you can't always do that with yourself but once you

27:29sort of can take that you know bring that awareness to your body like how are you feeling your body are you feeling good about that thing you're thinking about talking about are you feeling heavy that's you'll kind of indicate so yes well I have kind of a broad question so I'm going to let you take us to our halftime break and then I'll ask my question don't forget hey we'll be right back you're listening to brushwood median network the best insidicated talk news and entertainment shows are you looking for your daily dose of inspiration they connect it to all your favorite shows music and news with the brushwood median network app from positive talk radio to greatest vibes unplugged and so many more uplifting voices around the world everything you need is right in one place it's easy to use too always available and designed to keep you inspired 24 hours a day go to brushwoodmediannetwork.com and download the app and you will

28:35always have brushwood media available on your smartphone download it now and make inspiration and music and conversation part of your every day and welcome back to positive talk for Shell for Shell for Shell has a question yes well okay so I'm wondering because I've heard people say a lot that I used to have intuition and one thing that I noticed in myself that I just want to know if it's common or if there was something that it was meaningful to it is how Kevin was talking about that that voice that that very peculiar one that's very straightforward and very direct there's been times like you know don't take that street take a right right here do do these kind of things when I stopped listening to it when I kept fighting it well you know it was it was really I don't know what happened but I was in like this egotistical self of me for a few weeks and I was just fighting against everything as Kevin said that voice that you work on gets louder it also can

29:38get quieter we can eventually shove that down it could be one experience it could be a buildup of things going on in your life and not having any time to slow down but I realized that it just as easy as you can obtain it you can also drown it without maybe realizing it so how does that happen I think it happens to a lot of us I think like I said earlier like we've all had that when we're young we're kids are like one of the missing than the most intuitive beings and then somewhere through getting older and becoming adults we do suppress it we do forget about it we do can push it down so you're absolutely right it's exactly like you know have we been to the gym well yes I've been to gym years ago I've stopped going it's exactly the same thing is once you start tapping into that again and you know what we've talked about earlier is like you it's like building that muscle up again it's just reminding yourself you're it's you know if I think when people have pushed that down it's just that they're disconnected it never goes away it's always there though it's just like this disconnect and once you can just give your give yourself permission

30:41to start trusting again to start reminding yourself remembering that you are this soulful being in this human body that's when things just start unfolding and it is just it's just gentle you know just easy so you're not just going to go from jumping from you know over here over there you know just in it's more about starting small just dip in your toe like I did with my personal development journey this has been a journey that I've been on for over 20 years but my intuition has always been with me it's just that I only you know started learning to trust it more and more to point now that it's just my every day existence did a five you know that's it yeah you're questioning that yeah can I take it one step further you may take it two steps further if you won't yes just because I'm wondering when the intuition does come back and it sometimes is subtle sometimes is like a ton of bricks coming off your back or landing on you but in those moments we tend to be

31:41like oh well everything needs to change and it stresses us out we get fearful we literally do the exact opposite of what brought the awareness and the intuition in the first place what are some tools and tricks that you can use to not allow that monkey brain to attack you when you do realize there is a lot in your life that you want to change and you have the work on and just being gentle with it yeah so what I do in my work especially my visioning masterclass is really we work through this get people to write down because they usually want to you know say they want a lot of things going on their life they're all I get them to jot it all down because and especially my clients that work with my coaching they're not all these things to happen for them all these things to unfold what I want to do is bring it back to what is the one thing that they want to focus on right now and it's not what they think they want it's actually what they want what I call a soul level and that is using your intuition and once we help once I help them get that clarity it's really a very sort of simple process of just allowing them to tune back into themselves and they get that clarity

32:45and what's the one thing that they if they so here's a question I was asking my clients and students is if you could achieve one thing within the next 12 months what would it be and it's taking it a step further so they're not just in their head saying oh I want this but it's actually what they're feeling intuitively and once they connect to that emotionally they're more likely for that to happen because it's an emotional connection it's the intuition it's an emotional it's not just in your head and from that place that's where those things will unfolds and you don't get all that negative talk because you have absolutely knowing that that is happening for you so asking you when you got off of the job and you said you just you knew you trusted it's kind of feeling that you have you have a complete knowing that this is what is meant to happen for you it's as simple as just walking into the the bookstore Kevin and you choosing that book and just go in and you know you know there's that's the sort of thing to keep coming back to it's the interest and it's the emotional connection then with that clarity that's when you step forward

33:45and you will have the mind monkey jumping in at that point why do you think you're you know all the thing are you worthy or you know I don't think I'm capable I don't think I can do this so the tools that I would then put in place I think's like writing affirmations to keep you on track looking at it every single day to remind yourself what I call wobbles I will do journaling so I'll have like complete wobbles I go back to my journal and it's just pinning pens paper so it's so that you're not holding those negative thoughts that negative energy within your body get it down on pen's paper journaling is such an amazing tool that is overlooked hence why I created my journals as well but you can start just doing those things out that are really messing with your mind and just giving you all that negative self-talk to keep you back on track so that you can keep going after your intuitive intention is it possible at least in my world this is what happened I had a question and the question was why am I here and what am I here to do now I had no idea what

34:46the answer might be I had no no no conception of that but it led to different things lining up and happening it's almost like the universe and my guides on the other side said what wait wait what did he say did he say he wants he wants to know okay okay now we can now we're talking now we can start lining stuff up it is is is that possible oh absolutely I think that's a very profound question that you know what am I here to do in that it isn't always that clear cut it's you know right we're talking about the journey earlier certain things are going to lead you on a path that are going to take you certain places and that might not necessarily be where you're going to end up but where you end up is actually where you're going meant to be and what you you know all along so for me it's not like a straight it's not a straight linear path it's just you know having the kind of courage to do first first you know come back to that that inner voice that inner compass trusting that taking the next step that then opens the door here then opens the door there without

35:48that I wouldn't have done that experience you know it's the is the domino effect I call that will lead you to meeting the right people that have then opened the door to that when you end up so your guides are there helping you it's not just as a profound answer like okay what am I here to do and then it's just like clear on that you know in front of you like that so I mean for me I started on my personal development journey I didn't know I'd be doing the work that I'm doing now even this year I'm bringing out stuff that I'm launching next year that the start of this year I wasn't really clear that was going to happen for me but it's just as it's evolved and it's manifested and it's I'm just trusting and following that journey so and for me that's just really exciting as well it should be because when you're excited about life and about what's unfolding in front of you doesn't it mean that more things like that are going to fold in front of you and you don't and you said the magic word I think is trust and trust that the universe has your back because the universe has all of our backs absolutely and it is it's just you you are

36:51trusting and you're looking at things in such a beautiful way and I also just want to remind your listeners that you know listen to your intuition isn't and Michelle sort of touched on it it isn't always sort of sunshine and and rainbows and butterflies sometimes it can be quite confronting in a way that sometimes it just like all this doesn't make sense like I've had my intuition tell me like you know you know it doesn't make sense I know like you know you're conflicted because I just say oh my gosh you know but that's why I love to do it just absolutely know 100% I've got to trust this I'm getting goosebumps when I'm talking actually um that you I just trust it 100% it doesn't always make sense but I tell you on the other side it always makes sense I look back and I'm like okay yeah that was why my intuition was telling me that so I think that's just an important thing to remind people of just you know it's not always that clear cut it isn't always just like you know we're just gonna bounce along the rainbow over here it can be a bit sort of confronting at times so well yeah and it's go ahead Michelle yes it's because Sandy well even when you're into and with your intuition things will still go wrong people are they think

37:55you know and tell me well I know I know that you would agree that it is the most important time to trust in it more than you ever have is when those things go wrong when they don't make sense when you have no idea all the sudden what the heck is going on that's exactly when you need to trust it the most how what are some tips of ways to stop yourself in those instant moments where that that those monkeys are yeah doing drugs in your head you know they're doing what happens to Michelle they're screaming at her they're screaming well I'd love to just shout I just love to share with you like in January this year I actually was on a holiday with my children in the middle of well we're in the middle of nowhere camping and I actually broke my foot in my ankle in three places yeah and at that time it's like the length of the jan is like okay trying to start the new year and I had all my things that I had thought that we're gonna unfold for me this year but what had unfolded was that I had been putting off doing my podcast for the last two years so because I was

38:59stuck at home and I didn't have I couldn't leave the house for sort of six to seven weeks I ended up launching my podcast and then on the back of the podcast feedback that I got I had been doing meditations for my clients and sort of sending them recordings and sort of sending it off to them and then I sort of again following this intuitive journey was like okay well I was going to put it on an online platform and then once we started using it it's not so user friendly so from that what now produces a meditation app which is going to be launching in the end of this year early next year and all of that came about because I broke my ankle in January so it's literally if that hadn't have happened at the time I could have been like oh my gosh this is such a negative experience and I can't leave the house and why is this all happening to me and you know what have I done wrong all these negative things it's just looking at like okay there's there's a bigger plan for you there's other things that are gonna unfold because of that experience so that's kind of sometimes things life does happen to you like is gonna happen it's nothing you know we can't

40:04avoid that things will happen to you but it's if we become more intuitive more intentional and not just reactive to our outside world it's gonna just give you such a much better beautiful experience in life and you will end up somewhere you don't even know that is already sort of got a plan to be pathogenic amazing well you know I gotta I gotta ask you because in my world be careful what you wish for because you're liable to get it but it's not necessarily going to be exactly how you pictured it because I was just thinking like I told Kevin the other day I'm kind of scared of my intuition because then I do know things and I I want to know what you think what you think of that when we come back because Kevin had his own perspective too if you'd like to share what you told me Kevin if you remember uh it was very peaceful what you told me do you remember um or mind me I've said so many things yes you have you said all he said was it's okay

41:12and those two words like stop me dead in my tracks because I realized that I it was a moment where my mind was empty I wasn't feeling anything I wasn't like I almost like separated from myself because I do I have things that have happened and then I started to think what if I know somebody's gonna die and I don't stop it what if what if what if what if what if what if and all those fears kicked in and he just said it's okay and I was like everything I just told you is not okay that's why I'm telling you um so I'm curious on what you think of that and what advice you would give to someone who also experiences that when we come back on the break okay and um we're gonna play something here and then we're doing this interview to Sandy Bandfield because she is of the light of that can shine up in your darkness to illuminate the rest of your life and we'll be right back here's another point to ponder by ponsitive talk radio in a dark room a single candle was lit that tiny flame chased away the shadows filling the space with hope your

42:16courage your kindness and your light may seem smaller times but it can change some was entire world never underestimate the power you already carry inside even the smallest flame can ignite a fire that transforms lives you are listening deposit talk radio we're stories of hope come alive and oh I'll come back to positive talk my name is Kevin and Michelle's right there and Sandy Bandfield is with us and Sandy was I did you did you get goosebumps when I played that I did it that is always a clear indication it is it really is yeah yeah that you're feel it the universe is is working with you and you know I'm so sorry it's for people Sandy and that's why I want people to really embrace this because it can change their day-to-day lives it can change their families lives the ripple effect can go into a huge pool of all the people that they know

43:23and I just hope that they get to get the message and I know that you're working every day to get that done and congratulations and thank you for that thank you thank you yeah I think for me went me going through like severe trauma and I've been through some of my darkest days I think for your listeners is just to remind them that there is there is light at the end of that you don't you know I've overcome depression anxiety I've gone overcome severe trauma and I'm now living this beautiful life that I have created just by following my my own intuition and trusting that process and Michelle you sort of asked me a question of what happens with people that might have those just remind me what was the old question just like would have they I asked you when you start to fear your intuition because I don't think we have awareness of how much fear runs through us daily just subconsciously until it ties in with your intuition and how to kind of work through that with yourself yeah so fear is a real low level vibration we all have it we need it in

44:27second-circumstances and there's I there is like a scale I can't remember exactly where it is but I can try and find a way to share but when we're setting certain emotions like it counteracts the other emotions they fear for instance they're feeling grateful or where experience gratitude you can't feel fear so by following a gratitude process or being grateful for things will actually just dampen down those fears those worries that's one way to do it I find when I'm having these wobbles and the fears are creeping up and it's just really kind of manifesting in itself it feels heavy and dark and messy just coming back to that gratitude even if you're going through a really traumatic time even if this is one small thing that you can be grateful for in your day that you could just write down before you go to bed it just kind of brings you back and start repeating that every day it's going to start lifting that sort of to the lighter energy the fears are going to sort of fade away and the other thing is just really you know it's repeated it's

45:28kind of cliche but it's actually just making sure that you come back to the present moment so that's why journaling meditation I'm teaching this to my kids at the moment that when we sort of either going through depression or worries it's usually sort of things that we're either worrying about in the past over here on this side and if we're worrying we're having anxiety we're worrying about things in the future that haven't even happened yet and it's reminding ourselves I'm teaching this personally to my kids is just like coming back here to present moment so that is just through your breath is through doing meditation it's through journaling it's through just you can do anything arty creative so that you're not sort of varying off over here worrying about things that happen or you're worrying about things that have already happened and that by the way is where Michelle had gone at one point because of her intuition she was well what about this and I feel like this and somebody's gonna have this and I don't know about and as you can't it's none of your business you can't control any of that all you can control is control yourself and by the way

46:29I love that you use the term wobble I take use all the time in my mind's eye there used to be used to be a blow up thing that it was but bottom heavy and it was like a clown or something and you could punch it yeah yeah you could punch it and you can hit it but it always came back up and that's that I think that's a great metaphor for us don't you think? Absolutely I have wobbles all the time and it's just about I do just you know you just we're we're human we're having these experience and it's just about reminding yourself you know we're human we can all worry about things and we can you know have these fears that creep up but it is just reminding ourselves and but as soon as we come back to the here then now we stop worrying if we can't you actually can't worry about things over there in the future you can't worry about things in the past when you're back here in the magnet the present moment so that's where I just I think these these tools which are so simple like journaling your meditation you know doing things like creative drawing or

47:34anything like that that you feel drawn to that you can just remind yourself breath work as well become a really popular sound as well sounds a really great one to really just bring you back and now doing sound healing as part of my one of my tools that I'm offering so sounds also a great a great thing getting yourself into certain frequencies and vibrations it's just going to really be back and one thing I realized Kevin that just clicked that you taught me but it just makes sense right now in this moment is the more you have gratitude for anything the more you're manifesting and attracting your intuition to allow blessings to happen to give you more to be grateful for from my perspective the universe is dying for us to have a happy life and so they're dying is the wrong word but they are they are eternally grateful living for us to have a great life and when we help and accept those things and those gifts from them that that is just that makes

48:41that makes their day even though they don't have days and stuff but they that makes their world and so that's why 20 years ago Sandy when you started on this journey and you're nowhere near done doesn't it excite you that every day something new happens and you're you're gonna it's gonna be great and you're going and it does that mean that you don't stop your toe of course you're going to stub your toe that's part of life but it's how how you decide you're going to live through that but it's exciting that's yeah that's what the fun part yeah I think you know stubby toe break your ankle or whatever you just you know it's going to like unfold you in ways yeah you know it's going to unfold in ways that you just never imagined and I think it's yeah it just gives you this beautiful perspective when you're working from that beautiful and what I call that energetic space the intuitive space you know you start to see things around you that you wouldn't have seen before or you know the even smiles from you know a stranger in the street you know things like that these

49:41little just gentle things that's what's saying coming back to that gratitude you know it could be anything your day just to remind yourself what what's happened to you that you can be grateful for because it's that it's just been not always seeing it when we're kind of in these like heavier spaces yeah really good way to build gratitude that Kevin also also mentions also also that he also talks about and mentions is sometimes going and just being there for somebody else makes you grateful for yourself because you're able to be that person for someone they show the gratitude to you acts of kindness are a great way for gratitude to grow outside of yourself and within you at the same time do you agree with that absolutely um I think it's kind of one of the fundamental things of just showing others around you that that gratitude that kindness um because it is that butterfly effect someone leaves your presence by having some nice interaction with you and being kind they're going to more likely to do that themselves to someone else um it's that

50:42butterfly knock on effect don't know it's remarkable and how it all works and when you look at it it is orderly isn't it yeah I think the it kind of isn't it isn't I think just once you sort of are in that space we're just open to things that will just come to you because then they're meant to be there for you as part of that journey and I think that's part of the excitement they're not knowing exactly and see when I say it's orderly that means that they know oh of course right yes they know what they're doing I know we get that we're in the forest and we get to see the tree ahead of us and the tree behind us and then we start walking in the wrong direction and then we hit the the mud puddle and and stuff and and and they help us get back on the right direction but they they know where we're headed because we're the ones who established that before we were even born absolutely yeah I really thought and people think I need to be on medication when I say that but I mean that sincerely so I agree with you yeah so for

51:48your turn well as we sadly close out the show sandy um first we have to have you back um would you talk to brushwood media we need to have two hours a day and yes let him know so we have to have you back because we need another hour of your knowledge and your energy and just spread your message yes you do you're part of our family um and so is everybody who gets to listen to this um but I want to give you the last time to share all of your where to find your books and the journals and the new things coming out that you have and all that one so yeah okay um you can find all the details on my website which is businesslifemagic.com and I'm going to do a special um page just via listeners which will have all the sort of the US um things on there so it's going to be easy for them to find so I'll just do a forward slash positive so businesslifemagic.com forward slash positive and there there'll be the links to my journals which can be on amazon.com which is the

52:50easiest way to you can write through the website but easier on there and I'm just about to launch in the next two to three weeks my meditation app which is called the softball meditation library so um and I'm going to have a special pre-launch offer for your listeners as well so they can go and download that and get some of my meditations which stop I think the stop from like a minute to three minutes up to 15 minutes so I'm trying to create mindfulness meditations that people can just you know fit into their their day very easily um and I'll have online courses launching um some February next year as well so that means let me let me get this straight you've got the app that's launching in a couple weeks which means you have to come back and promote that and then you have a program launching in February that you're gonna that you're doing so you have to come back and promote that um so I guess you're just gonna have to move in oh we can go to Australia yeah you can come just say hey it's nice and sunny yeah and no way they got nine you know the point of most poisonous snakes in the world down there

53:53and big spiders yeah yeah they got spiders that leave a cat so I'm not going there fine I'll go for you thank you oh yeah thank you I'm sunny at the moment so I love that and a nice Australian bloke would be fun to date and I'm going to a pub with a little night it would be fun too that's a fun in Australia yeah the eyebrows all stand as we close out the show I would love for you to share the last minute that we have anything that you would like to leave our audience with just to think about for the rest of our day yeah I think it's just that reminder because life is full life is noisy and hectic and it really is quite simple just to come back to yourself to really just tune into yourself to trust that intuition um so simple these days just to do that and just to give your self permission allow that to happen for you that there is bigger things out there waiting for you so

54:57so beautiful and uh yeah if you are having trouble believing any of this you need to call Sandy and her website again is businesslifemagic.com businesslifemagic.com and she can help you through it so that you can live the life that you wanted to live before you even got here if you won't don't believe that uh I'm sorry you will sooner or later. Michelle thank you for this for this day we've had a great time thank you for being part of positive talk with Kevin McDonald where stories inspire and voices remind us of what truly matters may today's conversation give you hope courage and a reason to keep moving forward and just remember till next time be kind to one another because each other's all we've got