Police Interrogate the Cruelest Nurse You’ve Ever Seen

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2:00I'm like, what in the world? Could I be able to work since five times a month? Yeah. Well, I'm nice. How did you see that on your phone? Yeah. But what kind of anxiousness? I have a canary in the inside. So it gave you no attention as always? No, I didn't see. Because I just, like, you look at the camera because it's been a lot going on. We put cameras in there. So, yeah, I don't, I mean, I really can't tell you. I don't know because we've had our three years. And just the last year, she's been like just doing stuff like she was stealing. I mean, this and being, she, you know, she tries to hurt us, but this is a number of things. So the school got, we got to relate you. So they have a late-nightness chance and she's at the school because we call the teachers wanting to say, hey, is anything y'all can do to help us?

3:02Because the stuff she does at home, she was doing that school, too. So it got us some touch of Miss Jensen, some Miss Jensen started calling us and she had an appointment right before the coronavirus thing. She was supposed to be going to a program that laid here. So, you know, she's been talking to Miss Jensen. They couldn't get her to tell them what was going on. And she won't tell us what's going on. But we had her three years. So when Thanksgiving of 2018, she went for the Thanksgiving holiday. So when she came back, someone was going on her ear. So it was like, what's wrong with your ear? I don't know. I was sleeping and happy. So finally, somebody told us that her ear was burned with a cigarette light. So I called DCF the next day because, I mean, that's my, she didn't go there looking like that. But that's what she came back. So they talked to her and they did an investigation, found her model medical, they said she medical and they looked at her and they looked at her. OK, so ever since she came back, it's just been,

4:05she wasn't the same child and what that before. So, telling him, hey, something wrong with her. She got to be mental. Some of her, he was like, no, anything wrong with her. She ain't mental. So, OK, I say something right. So then she started, she did it in a toy box. So like, what's going on? Why did you do it? I don't know. So then she started peeing in the corner. Why are you doing that? I don't know. And she just been doing stuff like one day, she, like she was she was doing is, she had hit herself in it. One day, she went to school. Her face was red. I sent her to school. I said, I'm not feeling good in trouble. She stayed at home and didn't go to school in English and she looked like that. So, she went to school there after work and she said, I heard myself because I'm mad because some kind of a test school, she made an F on a test. So I told her, yeah, something is wrong with her. You need to do something because something, she's something is wrong with.

5:06So, that's who started talking to me lately. So then he said, well, I don't want her going to that place because I had been around kids when they own men and they get the rocket back and forth. So, okay. I said, some more. She had a mental issue. So then the school started seeing it. So then they'll text and they say, hey, she got, we found feces in her jacket pocket. Like what? So she started doing it at school. So she was doing whatever she was doing at home. She was doing that school too. She was still kids, next to put them out of pants. They'll take her to the nurse to get it out of pants. It's just a number of stuff she's been doing. I've been telling you, some wrong. This is a very good deal. Some help. Ain't no wrong with, she's just trying to get back to it. It's okay. So, I don't know. I'm just, I'm really, I'm gonna say it right now because I'm like, I get out of my car for work. I'm out work 12, 13 hours a day. I get out of my car for work.

6:06Yeah, I get out of my car for work. Here at police school, like when the work going on, we have had them for child abuse. I'm like, what? So you said she wouldn't stay with you? And we don't know cause she was standing fairhold. Every time she's sitting, let us to fairhold. I mean, okay, they can't find her. When the stuff happened for Thanksgiving, she actually doesn't hate you. She was in, she was in a movie. She was in a movie. At the hospital on Beatrice. So that's when we found out, she said at the hospital, the whole week. Okay. So somebody burned her with a cigarette in the year, drunk time, but she, when she told us, she didn't know what happened. But a friend of the mom told us, so then we went back and asked her. And she said, yeah, I'm looking at my ear. And she burned with a cigarette. So we asked her, why didn't you tell us this before because we kept taking her back if we were to the end of the throw doctor. She kept having to go to the doctor,

7:08kept her over and over again two times a month. She never told us, so three or four months later, that's when we found out we really had it. So she never told us. You should have called this, you have to go on here. Was it over here? No, I called her here because I was at work at home. She was, she wasn't let me, you know, she was walking in the house like something was wrong, but she wasn't, she was walking sideways. So I'm looking at her like, what's wrong? Why are you walking like that? She's like, you know, when she went out because the light on, her ear looked like somebody had and I don't know, it looked like a burn, but we were saying it was a burn cause we didn't know. And she said, she didn't know. So all I did, I said, then I said, okay, you know what, let me call DCL. So I called DCL, go call something. I called them, they came at the lady and said, well, we have a lot of cases. I can't come out right now. It's gonna be probably a week or so cause we're back up. I said, well, can I send you these pictures? So I sent her the pictures. When she got the pictures, they was out to the house in 30 minutes. So I don't know who it was, you came out?

8:09I don't know. It was, I don't know the lady's name. Oh, Ms. Taylor. Okay. Ms. Taylor. When was that? This was November, 2018. Okay. Ms. Taylor, she a young girl. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. So what did they do with that? When they took her to the bed, I mean, we had to take her to some appointments. First, she's going to in those and throw doctor because it's saying, well, let's take her to the in those and throw doctor. So we took her to the in those and throw doctor. They thought it was staff. They didn't think it was a burn. So nobody really knows. All they was doing is... Did you know about the, she hadn't told you about the burn? No, she didn't tell us nothing. You just had to behave. Yes, we just had, and then a behavior like I say, we had three years, she was nothing like she is now. Nothing totally different than girl. She cares how she looked. She would, she want to match her clothes. She'd get up and take a bath. Now she does none of that. She don't want to take a bath. She, she peas on herself. She just, so what we did was, I said, I want to get a camp.

9:10Let's get a camp and put it in. You know, in front of her, we brought her out the room and put in the living room because she was, you know, the garbage can't. What the hell? She was not doing none of this. And I kept telling her, get this girl some help because something is wrong with her. I didn't know what she was going to do. She's going to get back to her mom. Okay. So after that, we just kept going. I kept going to the school, talking to the school, kept talking to them, kept talking to them. They still saying, okay, well, we're going to get up on what they do. So the lady at the school just started seeing her every Monday. I think she was seeing her every Monday. So she said, they did say that her mama tried to kill her. She has a lot of stuff. And she said, when we, she said she asked her, well, what are you going to live? She's, I want to, just want me to do right. But, you know what I mean? Besides the behavior in school, she knew about her schoolwork and grades and other stuff. How she is?

10:10She's in third. Now, what it is, like, because she don't want to do work, because when we first got it, she couldn't read. She couldn't spell a nice, she couldn't tie a shoe. So basically, we had to teach her all that. We had to teach her everything. So now, she don't want to have to do work. She'll go to school, getting trouble. She don't want to do work. So the teacher started saying, hey, we having a whole lot of problems. They started writing stuff down. I don't think I said, hey, can y'all document? So when we go, when we go to label, they'll do something. So I can just get admitted. I'm not doing that. If I do that, they're going to make a look like a zombie. That's okay. And I understand that. But, we're going to do what we ate today. But you should take care of medications. No. Not at all. Mm-hmm. No. She can take a medicine, she know nothing. No. Because when Miss Jensen made the appointment, I think it was for April 4th. This, the coronavirus thing happened. So I guess they're not doing appointments.

11:13But they had an appointment for her to go. Yes. He's working at UPS. But when the school stopped, can nobody watch it? Because they just take us somewhere. She don't just do it at home. She's doing it everywhere. She's doing it at school. So it's interesting. I don't know if I'm going to go like her medicine in the corner. Right, that she can't make. Right, that she can't make. Finding great candidates to hire can be like, well, trying to find a needle in a haystack. Sure, you can post your job to some job board. But then, all you can do is hope the right person comes along. Which is why you should try Zip Recruiter for free. At ziprecruiter.com slash zip. Zip Recruiter doesn't depend on candidates finding you. It finds them for you. It's powerful technology identifies people with the right experience and actively invites them to apply to your job. You get qualified candidates fast. So while other companies might deliver a lot of, hey, Zip Recruiter finds you what you're looking for. The needle in the haystack.

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14:16I know, she was going to some sort of job for her. She was going to, um, somebody who worked, she told her, dude, she was mentally retarded as she. But she never told us what that mean, or why, you know, why she was like that. So I mean, I don't know. I'm just, I'm a man. I'm really, I'm really sorry. I really, I really, this is crazy. Besides, besides, this stuff, she's going to, um, this is home-life, right for you guys. That's fantastic. It's fantastic. I mean, just normally it's just like I tell you, you need to leave her in the living room so we can watch her. because she says she couldn't have, who does that? Why are you doing that? I don't know. I don't like myself. She wasn't doing this thing ever again. That's what aggravated me because she was not doing none. She was like a partially girl who first got hurt. Perfect. After she went away that last time, her came back. So maybe she's trying to get away to see the baby. I'm sharing seen the baby yet. The baby is one now. She didn't see the baby yet. We don't know if she's trying to get over there.

15:17And we tell her all the time. You're not going like with her mom after, after her mom even did what she did to her. I want to see her. I want to keep her on. It's okay. We will meet you and let you see her, but you cannot take her. You would not, she would not stay overnight. We'll sit right there while you see her. I want to do it. Last time I'm a call. I'm going to say it was around. Jane was up there. I've been being bad. Talked a little. One time I called her said. It was all the time she stayed away. The last time was in November, 2018. Last time I'm a singer. My mom, you want to see her. I mean, she want to be able to take her and have her overnight. Do you see her told us don't do it because it don't look like, if y'all figured she's doing this for a while, y'all taking her back over there. Did she ever stay with anybody else? She, now the only thing she would do is stay with the little girl next door, but that's just a go to school.

16:18What's her name? Jasmine, Jasmine. So then this little girl had her doing certain stuff, so she went to the school and told the school that little girl had to do it. What kind of stuff? Just like, I guess, telling her to say certain stuff, I mean, I don't know. I don't know because she lie a lot, so you can't really tell with... She was talking to Jasmine. You know, Jasmine was telling her, you know, Jasmine's already over there, but in order for us to get up and go to work, they will catch the bus together. So, you know, it's okay. They'll catch the bus together. So it's just, so then after that, after that, oh, Jasmine hit me. Jasmine doing this, Jasmine doing that. So then I got my schedule changed to be able to put her on the bus because now her and Jasmine are in a crazy bus. This was... February? February. On this year? Okay, so recently. Yeah, recently. So then she go to the school and because she come, okay, she gonna be bad at school

17:20and to get on her knees for 30 minutes. She go to school and tell them there's a bus. So they asked them, what, what, what, what, what were you doing? Why are you saying there's a bus because they made me get on my knees? So they told her that's not a bus. So I don't know. Well, this is my view. This is what she's doing. This is being bad at school. So... So what do you say you made her get on her knees? Like, what does that look like? Just get on her knees with a corner. I mean, I had to do it. Just sitting on her knees with her. Yeah, in a corner for 30 minutes because like, she don't want to do a homework. She just said, I did my homework. Makes like, you know, you find a homework in the box, can't you? So it's just, I don't know. Do you ever help discipline her? I don't really know, because I had to work. That's his job. That is not my job. That's my job. That is my job. Have you ever had that role with you? Have you ever discipline her? I've finished up before, too, yeah. I have done that. What does that look like for me? Just, hey, go stand in the corner. Hold your books. Do your homework in the corner. She don't want to sit down and do it.

18:20You tell her, sit down and do it. You go on the room and close the door. She in the kitchen. She, you know, stealing. She does just what she do. I mean, like I said, she do it at home. She do it at school. It's all on paper. They got, they, they, I'm sure you got a book. For besides having her son or niece in the corner of the deal, is there any, does that escalate? You know, she doesn't do that. Do you have some other sort of discipline for her? No, she used to do it. Now he, now he was going to butt though, he will. Yeah, he will. So what's that like? Just with his hand, just going to butt, then. She'll get right for a little while, then he's like, you know what? I ain't worry about it, then. Because he'll get mad because he feel, I tell him she got a problem. He say she don't, so he get mad. I mean, something I don't want to. But he didn't, I'm getting it, he was, but, but he ain't getting out. What's the outcome you've seen now? Um, this morning before I went to work? Yeah, this morning. Well, I got up at four, around four o'clock.

19:23Because I used to go on there because she don't sleep for some reason. She up, progenomics, so she really don't sleep. And I know she was on sleep and medicine for the first time, but, of course, it's hard for her to say when they're wrong with it. Well, I often knew you work through. Who goodness? Um, I'm off, I was off, was it yours? Not yesterday. Day for yesterday, I was off. I was off day for yesterday. How many hours do you think we're coming in? I'm just a man. Yes. I'm scared to 50 hours. So, you work like a consistent schedule? Yes. But I work, um, I work 10 to 8. I work eight to sixes, 11 to 9s, 12 to 10s, 7 to 5s, and 9 to 7 to 10. If you're working, you're staying on with the rules. She's one of those watching. You ain't got nobody watching, so you ain't no choice.

20:23I mean, I can't, I can't stay on with her. But I mean, I can't lose my position. Is there anybody else that stays with you all? My son? My son. My son is cool. What's his name? Darius. Darius. Is she a worker now, or is it home, or what's it? No, he's with his wife right now. Well, he doesn't have to stay in your house. He just... No, he stayed up, but I mean... Where's he got a room there, son? No, there's a room there. He don't. Because he just can't, he just can't. So, he can't win a coronavirus thing, so he's going on, he can't, yeah. Where's he sleeping? Well, he's sleeping in a room. Yeah. So, he stays there too. What's his last name? Thomas, T.H. O.M.A.S. You know where his girlfriend was? No, you know, not she, you know them. Because why, you know them? So, that's where he's at right now. When they get back, open the door. He was, I guess, who said three days ago? You know them? Because now he has stayed with me just to go to work, but when he's out, he go back.

21:24But when the coronavirus is going on, he's not working. Yeah. Okay. So, he actually did say no. Yes. He works over here, so I mean, I got to see, okay. So, he stayed, he was over here working. Yes. Okay. Since. Did, uh, whenever you saw her, whenever you saw her, this morning, when does she look like to you? I mean, did you notice anything? Not what, I mean, because you look like, I mean, whenever I said, but it was dark, too. So, yeah. Now, and you said you worked yesterday? Mm-hmm. I do. And what did you work yesterday? It's kind of, but I guess today. I'll be this time. I also said I know the wrong. I don't know anything. I want the work yesterday. Teen. I want a teen. Right. Yes. And you work till seven, eight?

22:25No, I was just about nine last night. Nine, ten and nine. You worked till 11 hours just to make that? Was she away class night when you got home or was she? She was asking to tell you about doing homework last night. Yes. And did you notice anything different about her, like physical differences on her or anything? No, because, I mean, when I came in, her back was turned and she was doing homework. Yeah, her back was turned, she was on homework when I came in last night. You know, but I was, he's living there with him. He knows about all his behavior with her. I should've done that like this. He don't, I mean, he know, he know about, we're here walking in and seeing her, either because I was kind of digging through the refrigerator. But he don't know, like, doing the corner and stuff like that. Because, I mean, because I guess after they feel like if somebody else knew they're gonna tell somebody about it. So he don't know, she don't know about that. But he know about the stealing and stuff like that because he didn't seem to do it. So, he's helped the caregiver. I'm sure he doesn't ever help discipline her.

23:27I'm gonna make sure she's getting fed and they can't stop. Now, he'll feed her if he's there. Yeah, he'll do that. But yeah, he can do this man a light, telling him, he'll tell that for he'll say something. But like I said, he'll take it as I'm sure he'll say it. Did you ever leave her there with just two? Yeah, he watched them before, yeah. Hopefully he's there. Let me see the last time he watched her. That was like last week. I think we're probably about two hours to get a good mobile. Yeah. Now keep her, like all day, every day, no? Do you want? But during that time he never mentioned about her, like, hoping in the corner and like that. Wait, don't do it. Couldn't have done that. Like, wait for this. No, he's watching her by himself. I mean, she's doing some of the time. No, he's gonna say that if he, I don't think he'll see how to do that. Because this is something like, she's not, she don't do it in front of you, you're just going there and find it. Like, I mean, she don't find where her puppy's gone.

24:27Right, she don't do it like in the middle of the floor. She's not gonna do it. It's hard, man. Yeah, you right. So she'll go put it behind something. So she's not like just doing the floor. She don't do it, but she'll go hide. She'll go hide. Yeah, that's frustrating, I'm not kidding. But when Anthony is frustrated about it this, she just put her foot in it. No, he's just getting mad. And he'll go outside. Who do you mean, yeah? Cause he, cause he, he tell you not to retort it. But, and I say, I said, you're so wrong with him. But I'm not gonna tell her where you were taught. I don't say that. We tell all the time, you're not retorting. But because that's what was said before. You were taught, you were taught, you were taught it. We tell all the time, you're not retorting. So here they're gonna tell you, here they're gonna go outside. Like, I mean, then girl knows she don't. And I mean, I think she knows she don't. Cause she'll, I mean, she'll do it. And she's looking to like, why you did it? I don't know. I don't know. No, no, I've never seen anything like this before.

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27:31Could I tell you something is wrong with? I know something is wrong with. He just don't want to believe something is wrong with. The reason they're here is because today, she's got some pretty massive injuries, like severe injuries on her. And what she's telling us is the injuries, because we've been doing this a long time. We've seen injuries, and we know what they look like. Like certain things like brands that's, there's somebody we know would burn or want to burn or something. See right there. We know what that does. Most people do. We see that kind of stuff. I'm not saying she's got severe burns under. She's as example. Also like Luke, like Luke Marx, you know what I mean? Like Luke Marx is like, for instance, we take a chord, he has somebody record. He'll leave a loop mark on it. Just going to tie like a fish, it's going to. Yeah, like a pattern of the cold. It looks like that. And she's got him like all over her.

28:32Like all over her. Her bag is covered. Her legs, her neck, her arms, everything. I mean, she is covered with Luke Marx. Not getting on to it. Well, that's why we want to talk to you. How did it? Dad, I don't know, but maybe he ain't going to do it. Well, somebody's doing it. Yeah, somebody's doing it. And the thing is, because typically, you know, when we have something like that, like, for instance, I mean, we're doing a search warrant on your house right now. So I'm going to go, we're going to get Luke or extension chords. You're going to do all that stuff. Because that's part of what we do. We're investigators. We try to find out what happened. Because like I said, we've seen this a lot of other kids. And of course, when we asked her who's doing this to you, she told us, as it. She said, some of the similar things, like you're saying, like in the corner stuff, like in the living room stuff,

29:33the, like, does she wear a backpack? And she wear a backpack? Yeah. It's a punishment, like a weighted backpack for punishment. Does that happen ever? No. So she's never like punished for that, like, different things. And the reason I'm saying this, because I know parents use different methods. And all the backpacks of that is stuff, because we had to put everything up, because she was pinning stuff. She was doing it and my stuff. So we put everything in backpack, because I had it sitting in buckets. She broke the bucket, sicken on it. So yeah, but there's no, you know, you're not going to do it. Yeah. But I mean, you've never seen him do that. No, I've never seen him do it. I could be a rescuer with anything I'm not the same. No. And here's the thing, I want you to understand. And for the courtful punishment, it's not against the law. Like you can spank your kids if that's not against the law. Now, child abuse is, of course. Yes. And of course, the problem we're having now

30:33is that she's covered. I mean, it's really bad. And I mean, and I'm going to tell you, there's even some owner that are stages of healing. So it's been going on for a minute or two. So that's kind of why we're here. And kind of why we want to find out. The thing is, is this, I have kids. Right. And you said, do you have kids? And so this evening, we all have kids. There's a difference in torturing a kid, like a monster who do versus somebody just losing their crap and losing their temper and doing something to a child. There's a little, that's a lot different. And I don't look at this anyway. Because that happens. So that's kind of where we're at. And that's what we're trying to figure out is this, say, because the injuries are there, we know they're there. It's, we can tell you, we know she didn't do these herself

31:34because of the position that these injuries aren't, some of them aren't. So we know she didn't do herself. So we're at a point of, and then when we ask, what's happening, nobody knows. So that's problematic. So that's what we're trying to find out. Is it something that's possibly being covered up? And people are mostly nervous because somebody might not have lost their temper, you know, something like that. So that's kind of what we're trying to figure out. Because we weren't there when we got there. I've never seen him do it. I mean, I've never seen him do it. Never seen him do it. Now, I may work all day, but I've never seen him do it. Do you have an extension cord that's in the house and where did you know of? No, I don't have a extension cord. No. The only thing you might find in my house is like the big rope cable thing. What kind of rope cable? No, it's about the extension that you, like, if you put it on cable, you know, right? So something like that would be there. So I mean, it could be that, too.

32:34I don't know. I'm just saying extension cord, because that's a typically thing. And I mean, and then they in the living room in a bucket wrapped up because we did the cable to head extra. So I just kept them with they here. So, and I've never seen, I've never seen him do that. How long have you been living with the house? Almost two years. And how long does the camera spend up? The ones I said. The end time. I just put them up. My goodness. Like probably like a month ago, when she started, actually, like, when we seen her, the dude, when the dude started, and we kept seeing him, like, we need to put something up in here, because this is crazy. But the ones inside are the ordinary system also. Which means, yeah, they're ordinary cameras. Yeah, but it's like, those are the ones you have to, like if I'm gone, they don't record, because somebody's home. So they don't record, but if everybody gone, that's when they start, it would be the record.

33:36But they don't record, and then somebody's at home. Who has access to that? Me and Anthony. Just you and me. So you just doesn't have access to that. No, no. How do you hold it? You use the app to look at it on the cinema? I use my computer home. Throw on your phone to use an app to look at it. But I use the app, no. How did you look at it when you were a woman? Wait, because I have my iPad. Yeah, try to put it on the iPad. So you're like, how do you look at it? Thought about that. Could I always look? Cause I'm like, well, he went outside on the phone. I called the phone, he went to bands on the phone. Someone go, duh, what did he add? And that's when I look. Cause when you tell him, this is true. We'd like to look at that. Sure. Well, it was going to, because then I searched for it. So it's always said that this is what's been going on. She's been doing this stuff. And obviously Anthony didn't do this to her. Right. If we can look at those cameras, we can see what's the thing going on in the house. Right. Honestly, if somebody else is going on outside of the house, we're just going to enjoy the house.

34:37Do you mind if I get the email from you? So I get a lot of information. What's the thing? Hold on a minute, thank you. I got the email. Oh, goodness. If that would be my, I think I can, I can't remember. I have so many. I want to say is in my truck in my house. And you know what I'm talking about? It's a, um, I pay $10,000. Does it have a passport or anything? Yes. Do you know what? Can I look at myself? Oh, yeah. I mean, right. So, so good to you guys. You want to search one of the house. That's something you can pull up and look at right there. And you don't. But I can't obviously get that. So you can't pull the seat. Pull up my battery. You can't pull up your phone. Get your phone. Can I pull the watch with a phone? You pull the videos up on your phone. The apps not all your phones. I want to say the app is on my phone. Yeah. Can we look at your phone? You can. Which, which kind of phone? Can we just bring it to my face tonight? I mean, I'm going to be about phone.

35:38Then I day out of your country with the one. Okay. Before you tell us is true. And you have anything to hide? No. I just don't feel comfortable giving about my password. I mean, it has a face ID on it. Okay. We can't search it without your permission or search once. So. I'm not going to go. Just let me do your phone. No, I mean, you bring my phone open. So then you will be able to. We might get to that point. You think you're really uncertain. No. I just what I don't want to happen with anything because I don't know you guys. It's what I don't want to happen is because it says under investigation. As you know, you can tell what I don't want to happen is us to go through the investigation. And find that. I mean, I feel like you're being honest. But we talked to a lot of people all the time and people lied to us a lot. As you know, I just don't want it to get to the point where we're going to the investigation. And we're going to find out that maybe you lied to us or somebody lied to us.

36:40And it's the truth. And it's going to make you look even worse and we don't want that. Right. We might try to because I don't know about you, but I believe honesty is always the best policy. Telling the truth, no matter what, really. I think it's better that way. Right. I know. I know you know, people make mistakes and do stupid things. I've never seen you. I mean, I've never seen you. I've never seen you. Yeah. And I'm going to be honest with you and I'm going to take the truth. The reason your handcuffs to the table is because I mean, she actually discovered that you do it too. Do what? I'm never there. Well, I believe that. But that's what she's saying. And that's one of the reasons why. And because she does have such severe injuries that I mean, we have to. And then, like I said, the marks, better honor, the blue marks, better honor. Warning. The following Zipper Cruder radio spot you are about to hear is going to be filled with F words.

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39:41It is that bad. And the thing is, is that I have kids, like I said earlier, and I know my kids. Don't reach backwards sideways. I know when they get any kind of boo boo on them. You know what I mean? I know. And it's just kind of hard whenever we ask what's going on. And she's saying they match us and nobody knows how she got it. So, I mean, of course, that's going to put you guys in a bad one. Yeah. Right. It is automatically. And I believe there's always two sides to every story. That's why I wanted to talk to you. Is to find out what happens. And I believe you about her behavior and the way she's done. But I can see, like even the band thing or you or anybody, how they could lose their temper because of that. And I actually take it a little too far. I can certainly see that. I can certainly understand that.

40:42But that's kind of where I'm at. I'm trying to, we're trying to figure is it something like that? Or is it something more aware? And I'm going to be honest with you here just a last year. I worked in case where it was all over the world. You probably heard about it. We had a lady's daughter or two year old being tortured by her boyfriend. And she, she swore up and down. He never touched her. And this baby had injury so it was similar to it. So to what she's got. And I believe it or not. They had cameras on the inside of the house. It's just very good to get. Yes, that's why I was talking about that. If these bad, these SD cards. Well, I mean, maybe look at that. I bought it from Verizon. Right. Maybe do that. I'm pretty sure they do. But when we took this guy. It showed him torture in this little little bad. Really bad. So we ended up making the arrest on him. You know, hanging himself in jail. A week later actually when you arrested, it was terrible. And it was the worst case of the reward. And when I interviewed him, I interviewed, the mom.

41:42It's his girlfriend, they were like, do you play, were like, no, we have no idea. It's like, what? How can you not know what happened? What? How can you not know that there's these type of marks on. And like I said, hers are bad. And that's kind of why we're here. We don't want to have them touch it. No, really about in this room You and told us something you should have and then we get on Check the camera Get in with that stuff like you said And there's a different store on the cameras. I want you told us you know whether it's Anthony doing it Now are you doing it or maybe you're just there? Anthony's doing it. That's that's lives is just bad because If you're splitting this child abuse and you feel a reporter To make sure that none of this that's going to happen Is there anything at all that you can think of that could help us but you can tell us that you're making sense

42:45That would just add up anything at all I am I have never seen it. I've never seen him just go out Has he ever said You just say she just don't know what she doing. I should have said something like that Well, what about What about her and she ever said Does this to me? No, I hear anything like that. She's never said anything to you about that. No Has she ever come home with any injuries that you know about I? I mean not not like I mean it can't stuff like Followed and stuff like that, but no I haven't seen what I said man. I'm not you know when she take a bath. I'm not in there when she you know So she's she got clothes on when I'm at home So I'm not gonna like going to bathroom. She take a bath. Well, she's got now used to I used to to make show she Yeah, you can see I mean

43:47Even on her ankle right here She's got some severe injuries right here that's been there for a while that are infected Yeah, she's got more shoulders Like her she's raw like like through the skin over shoulders like for the backpack And she's she's claiming that Anthony makes it where backpack was weighted and makes her stand there and hold with the backpack And that's how that got there which matches It makes sense. I mean you can see it is bad. I'm just not a big pick-all day. No Like I said, but that's what she's saying. Okay. I mean I was saying. Yeah, and those are the injuries on her so we're like crap, you know, it matches what she's saying and then of course on her legs like I said this is numerous like I couldn't even tell you how many but numerous lute marks on her arm like right here because we can go on for a while Yeah, and I call her back. I mean this it's been long time and you can see it. I mean

44:49This is pretty bad. I Haven't been sitting to I mean I used to like I said going to bathroom with her and I told you Hey, I'm a star because they can be a sexual abuse thing. So I don't I mean, I've never seen no lute marks no backpack I've never seen it No, you know, he would not go in the bathroom. So she does it by herself. Yeah, he would not go in the bathroom All right, I'll see you Give me a favor raise your right hand You just weren't informed the information gives us the truth to the best your knowledge You know the mean of our dream and making false statements is a crime or so to the laws for it. Yes All right, you have any questions for us All right, well, give us a few minutes. Let's go through what we need to go through and we'll be right back in here This is Chris

45:50I'm sorry for all this. Let's go on I in order to use the to to copy the phone You okay? Oh, yeah, I'm okay in order to copy the phone I'm gonna need the basket because even if you've fingered you know finger touched it or whatever My program when it copies it wants the basket you can change the basket later And we'll be blocked out of it again. It's not a big, you know, it's not I need and then you just change the basket And that's what I'm going to need it in order to cover the phone He's just about picked out. I just don't I mean We're not interested in pictures anything else. This is this is an attempt to You know either exonerate or find out who's doing what that's all we're trying to do And you know, I'm sure that you're the same way Is it a six to four?

46:52How many digits is a basket six or four? Why don't you look at the phone yet? It's my face. Oh, it's your face, but it has a passcode. Yeah, so my password is It's not it's not numbers. Okay. All right. What is it? Can I get I mean I don't want I don't feel comfortable. I mean Y'all give my app a y'all got to code it the same things on my I'm sure okay. Well, and that's a thing It's not and you're certainly within your rights not to give it to us. All right I'm not trying to force or trick or anything else. Yeah, what I'm what I'm saying though is you got to think about it If this goes before somebody else like, you know, maybe a jury or something And they're saying well, what we'll always be saying what was on that you know, and that kind of thing where you know So that and that's the point it just to get it all out and open it's there. I mean Yeah, no, that's fine and

47:55Understand I promise you Everybody's got something on their phone. They don't necessarily won't see it, but None of that will ever see a lot of day in terms of what they do with this case. It's got nothing to do with this case Does that make sense? No, nothing nothing like that is going to come in Anything so all right, so just think about it right on it and let us know. Okay. I'll be out. Yeah What can I call you? Jeep, maybe I'll cover What year is That was the idea What kind of camera system I can't worry. It is good news. Yeah, I got it from Verizon

48:58Okay, so and then once the you stop paying on it, it's just kind of like a local Wi-Fi Where you can see it yourself? Yeah, can you log in from a way? You know for me would ring doorbell As it alert you if somebody if there's a motion in the house, I think I know I just have to go in looking myself Okay, so you have to log into it All right, you know what you do to log into it. It's not email. What do you know that? It can run And that's what it's always been on it. Yes, and any wife Okay, and then you do a passcode for that To get into the camera is it log right in? Okay, okay, where's the record to you? Like the short video, where's it happen? It's just all this in the app. Okay, so it's in your iPad all the short videos Yeah, because it's in the app is not like you don't send a video to my fellows is just in the app

50:04And how many videos you think are stored in there? Because some of them like if you go so far back, you can't see them all I don't know how many All right, you're about to end with the paperwork. I'm going to be That just the iPad. Okay, so It's in when you Talk to an attorney or you know, you're a lawyer or whatever Talk to them about it and you know, y'all make a decision and it may be like I said if there's something that's been Good to be good for you on there I would certainly want us to know about it. Does that make sense? Yeah So give it to your attorney and see him shoot you in and just give us contact Now you've listen now go to your thing Warning the following zippercruder radio spot you are about to hear is going to be filled with F words When you're hiring we at zippercruder know you can feel frustrated for Lauren even like your efforts are futile

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