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2:04podcast. This is Spelling with Tori Spelling and iHAR radio podcast. Welcome to Miss Spelling, a Bahama style. We're at Bahama, OMG, what's my other podcast with OMG? You guys, it is so amazing here. I mean, don't get jealous because I'm going to walk you through it. And this could be your next vacation. I am here with my producers and co-host Ruth Ann and Heather who is never on pod with me. She's behind the scenes by love sir and she's here too and we got Shelby and Eastern in the house. Wait. So Bahama has a podcast studio. So I could kind of move here because I had two podcasts.

3:08I can do my work here better than zoom in and working from home. It's kind of a vibe in here, no? Like I love the colors, I'm loving to full, everything about it. I love the apparel spritz sitting in front of me. Honestly. Oh, we do, we have apparel spritz, just me and Ruth Ann. We are on vacation, kind of. We are. So right before we start this podcast, Ruth Ann, we walk by the pool, which is one of six pools. Is that correct? There's a lot going on here. Okay. So just so you know, Bahama, it has three resorts in one. They are the umbrella, but there's the Grand Hyatt, there's SLS and there's Rosewood. So depends on what your vibe is, but you have three choices. Now you get, here's the thing, you can be on vacation and you get your steps in.

4:10I'm telling you, you walk, but you're everywhere you look is so beautiful, everyone is so kind. And there's so much to do that you're excited to walk, actually, I'm not a rocker. And I'm like, I'm on it. The studio that we're in is right by the ocean, like we walked into the door and it's like the ocean's right there. I know, it's not cake by the ocean, but it's studio by the ocean. Oh, wow. Yeah. Here we are. Oh, my goodness. Wait, I need one sip. Oh, so I was saying as we're walking by one of the pools to get to our podcast studio, Ruth Ann saw someone sitting out and they were having a drink and a pineapple. And it felt like you were a vacation newbie, you're like, oh, oh, I need one of those. Well, I do feel that when you're in a tropical paradise, such as Baja Har, you in LA, but yeah, close your eyes. You need to indulge in either drinking out of a coconut or a pineapple and I have seen

5:17a lot of drinking out of coconuts, but I got to say I haven't seen a lot of drinking out of pineapples in my tropical experiences. Oh, I got excited. I think it's a vibe. She isn't going around. Wow. Wow. Here's the thing. I feel like the pineapple is heavy. Yeah. It's spiky. And by the way, they're big pineapples. They're not like little pineapples. They're like, like it has a jar like a jar, like a juice. Apparatus is bigger, better. Anyway, I was wondering, Tori, just like how you're feeling overall, not only just being here, like we've been talking right on your plot about being a fresh star, all of that. So how are you feeling right now when it comes to the progress that you've been making in these last couple of weeks?

6:19Well, you know me, I always say I'm an open book. It does feel nice to be able to not in life be able to speak about what's going on. Because I'm seeing the connection, like seeing the connection, reading the connection, feeling the connection of everyone being like, oh my gosh, I've gone through this. And I know what it's like. And it's, it's really, it's not isolating. So it's been really great talking about everything, health, journey, and just wanting to kind of clean it up internally and externally in my life. Do you feel like a weight's kind of been lifted off of your shoulders a little bit now that you've been kind of just so like this is what it is? It's out there. No, one of the next steps has to be get them plants out. They're so heavy, they're plants are so heavy. They're weighing me down.

7:20I don't know why I went there. It was in my brain. So I said it. I thought you were talking about like implants in your sinuses or something that you had about them taking out to really clear your, but I really do think that's interesting that as you're kind of clearing your mind, you're like, I also need to release some of this weight that I'm carrying around everything. Yeah. Wow. So is that something that you've looked into? Are you feeling, you say the weight of it? Are you feeling any symptoms? Because obviously we hear a lot now about breast implant illness and so, so, yeah. So bunny Eve was just on my podcast and she was talking and she, yeah, she took me down the wormhole, the boobhole and it was like, she got hers out and she was like, there's an actual thing, you know, and she was like, some people don't believe in it. But I've kind of dabbled in learning about it, hearing about it, researching it for years

8:24because I got my first set of implants at 19. So I don't know life without them, but I do have a lot of immune issues and I don't know. I actually make thought about it. But this is making a lot of sense and I kind of want, if you don't mind, if this is too personal, we can always cut this out, but really they really, are they silicone or saline? Ah, silicone. Silicone. Okay. And they really wreck havoc on my wardrobe. Okay. I said that for you. I also think they really have it on your neck and your back with your, so look at me right now. You guys can't see. Yeah. I've gotten to that habit, but I'm telling you, this is so heavy. Yeah. Well, let me ask you this. Um, so I'm sitting forward and I'm hunched over and it's not because a posture always been a thing, but honestly, like my next forward, I have neck pain 24, seven, um, back

9:31pain, but with a side sleeper or a back sleeper, side sleeper, side sleeper, yeah. Hmm. I'll do it. No. No. Ruthan begs to differ. I'm going to show you the pictures I took. Here's the thing. Oh my gosh. Bahamar. I love you guys so much. Like I'm here working, but I'm on vacation. The most beautiful suite. Uh, yeah. Yeah. Bahamar, but we are at the Grand Hyatt portion and it is so lovely. We have an amazing ocean view and we checked in, not expecting anything. We literally were kind of like happy to be here, but sleep in a tent. Yeah. One of those things. Yes. Well, I would. I've never been in a tent. I've never been camping. Oh, that's an episode. I'm not shocked, but I'm shocked.

10:32You know, it's not too, so sorry. True Beverly Hills. I was 14. I played it. You went camping in a movie, in a movie. It was fun. You were like me. I was 14, but that's, that's like me, the first, so I don't know. When I was in a relationship and they asked me if I had gone camping because they'd gone camping their whole life and I said, yeah, I went camping. When I was in Girl Scouts and they were like, that doesn't count. I mean, I've seen every horror film where there's like tents and camping. So I feel like, well, my Girl Scout camping was on the Orange County Fairgrounds. It wasn't like out in the woods. So they were like, yeah, that doesn't count. Can we go back though, really quick? I have more breast implant questions. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Side sleeper. Side sleeper. Side sleeper. Okay. So you said you got them at 19. Yes. The first. Yes. That's my follow-up. So how many times have you had them replaced since because so many women do not know that

11:36you are actually supposed to get your breast implants replaced every 10 years. And I have a follow-up to tell you about that. Somebody that you know and their recent breast implant issues. But you tell me how many times have you had them replaced? Denise. No. Oh, somebody else. Okay. Okay. So had them done 19, she never started on that journey, but they were saline at 19. It was literally my boyfriend at the time really thought I should do it. I got talked into it. I was on that. Oh, no. I'm like, you know, you start to be like, oh, okay. Anywho. There was someone that you, oh, my gosh, someone used to call me a ring and tang titties and it really fucked my life up. When you were 19 and got them done for the first time, somebody used to say they have

12:40no recollection. So it's not a big deal. And you know what? We were young. But here's the thing. I have, I'm not going to say it right and I'm so sorry, you guys. Is it pectus intro? It's, I was born with a bone. So people always say in photos like, oh, my God, look how messed up her boob and plants are. Look at that gaping hole. I was born with this at five years old. I had, I was like, oh, someone's like, oh, you have cleavage. I'm like, what's that? It was just it. I have a bone that sticks down on one side. So it causes like an indentation, indentation. So it doesn't matter if I natural boobs, real and plants, I'm always going to have that. It is genetic and I'm assuming I have this children that have this bone thing and I'm assuming having been going through the meeting with the doctor for the pre-consultation and things like that.

13:40It probably came up. Could they have ever fixed it or did any of them ever offer to fix it or say that by getting implants, it would maybe shadow or change things differently. Bear in mind, I was 19. I remember at the time I didn't want to tell my parents. Oh, Tori, you thought that they weren't going to notice you came home with boobs? Then that I finally told them my mom came over to see me and like, help me at my apartment because the boyfriend that would talk me into it was like out with his friends. Of course. We lived together and he was like, I don't know. I'm out of here. I'm like, wait, who's going to take care of me? At the time, best friends with Alicia Silverstone and Carmen Electra who both came over and were present for this. But I also had never told my mom about my tattoo. So I was laying there, all benched up and you're not thinking straight on pink killers

14:46and she walked in to see, bring me food and see if I was okay. And then she looked down. She's like, is that tattoo and I go, yeah, mom, you know how teenagers, yeah, mom, you know. That's my tattoo. That's probably deal. And she was like, okay, okay. We never spoke again about it. It was like, okay, yeah, yeah. But anyway, at the time, the boyfriend that talked me into it and I had nice boobs looking back. You know, because I rewatched myself weekly on 901 OMG. Love it. I come back up. I come back so much for doing that because I know that that's rough as an artist. Most artist. You're not like, no, no, no, most artists do not like to watch themselves back on camera and you guys do it every single week. because of outward kind of digs that me from the press and from it was just a big thing

15:53that I couldn't watch myself and it was really hard and I gotta say now rewatching it and doing that podcast. I really like it. I'm fine with it. I watch it and I'm like, oh, I like that girl. I can finally look at myself and like myself, which that's a hard one. It's been years in the making. Anyway, we're in season eight. Sorry. I have the new boobs. But, you know, the first few seasons when I watch our first two, I would say like, I'm like, I look now and I was like, they were good. I liked them. Anyway, I did have that whole though and I didn't have the fullest natural boobs. They were like, I would say big A small B. Okay. I make deal great. But they did kind of, they were skinny. Okay. You know, like some people

16:55have wide feet, skinny feet, I'd skinny tits. And oh my god, skinny tits. A brand in the making with that name. Bethany is everything skinny. I'm sure she trademarked that one. Anyway, um, yeah. So I got in my head because someone always be like, oh, yeah, when you lean over to get dressed, you're orange. Oh, it's like ring and tang titties. And I'm like, what? I look down and I look on and see my ring and tang's like, oh, when they lean over, valid. So anyway. So, so my other question was 19. Oh, did you get them done again? Yes. How old are you? Sorry. I haven't gotten out much in the last two months with my health issues. I'm super excited. Um, the boyfriend at the time, his best friend, his best friend's girlfriend, was a stripper. And I didn't want to ask anyone. So she was like, I have the best doctor. Yeah.

17:58So I went to her doctor first time. You guys at the time, Beverly Hills girl, like, and she's like, it's your choice of, yeah, surgeons. But if only we had the internet back then, right? Yeah. At the time, I'll give you a pass on that one. It was like in Pasadena. Okay. To me, that was like driving like out of the country. It was so far. I was like, I don't know where that is, but it's far Pasadena. It's like, you know, beautiful high end. Wasn't a strip model though. Oh, yeah. That's kind of telling me. Well, not when you're young. Well, listen, you obviously saw the finished product on this girl. And you liked what you saw, right? That's the thing. Her's work way. So of course, if I see somebody, you know, and you're getting a can go wrong will. Well, that's not anymore. This is the new me. The new fresh start.

18:59Fresh start. Everything will go right. Yes. So anyway, got him redone at 26. That's kind of early early from 19 to 26. That's less than 10 years. Oh my gosh. What was the decision to get them redone at 26? They were so hard. And it was uncomfortable. And I just remember being like, is there something wrong with them? Is it a leak? By then, of course, my mom knew. And she was like, yeah, she got them done in some random place. Yeah. So I remember at the time, you're talking to my parents doctor. And he was also heft's doctor for all the girls. Yes. Yeah. So he got involved. And he was like, oh, my God, okay, we're going to get her someone great. And it was a Saturday night. I was at the

20:04manor with my parents. We just screened a movie. I know this isn't normal. I'm super ashamed, but not really. Wait, there's nothing to be there's literally nothing to be ashamed about. I know. There isn't. It's plastic surgery. It's 2026. No, she's ashamed. No, I was ashamed that the my parents are wealthy. I was ashamed about talking about it. I had no control of it, but I was born in dollywood and wealthy parents. Yeah, that's all. Anyway, I know this isn't normal. Look at me. But anyway, he was like made a call and he was like, hey, get in the car going to playboy mansion. My parents lived five minutes away. So on a Saturday night, it was like me. No, it was me, my mother, our family doctor. And we go. And we, yeah,

21:12went to the mansion, which they do movie screenings too. And I think they were doing it. Sunday night movies. Yeah, there was one bunny recovering upstairs because she had just had hers. And she had okayed it. It was like one of the big ones. She had okayed it for me to go up there and take a look at the merchandise and touch them. Oh, nice. I see this. Yes, I just you know what I could really go for right now. Literally anything that comes in a McDonald's carton, wrapper or bag or a McDonald's cup. Yes, any of those items you do it. We've got your cravings covered. Now stop in for the flaky filet of fish, the crispy snack wrap or a large fries for just $2.99. Limited time only, price and participation may vary. Cannot be combined with any other

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25:19So, okay, so second time getting them, another follow-up question. Do you automatically have to go bigger because of this is going to sound very maybe grotesque, but stretching of skin, right? Yes. There was the question of over the muscle versus under the muscle. Yes, what do you deal? Because of my picturesque vartus, what is it? My pescatarian bonage. No, it's the other one there's two. Okay. You're like, we're not excavating here. Esco bar? No. So Pablo Escovedom. No. Oh, I have to give the cred, I'm sorry. Yeah, so that did come up and

26:29it's gone back and forth because I feel like I've had them done three times now. But wait, before you tell me, did you go over the muscle or under the muscle? That's the thing back and forth. Okay. I don't remember now. Oh, okay, okay. I feel like I feel like it was over the first time because the doctor said he couldn't do it under because second time he was like, that's not true. And I will say as an avid plastic surgery show watcher and nobody cares. I mean, I've had cosmetic surgery and I also like to see good work done when I see it on red carpets and things. But I think that the go to is under the muscle. If you can, I feel like those told I couldn't. But it makes sense, though, that the second time you would have over the muscle makes sense that they were really protruding, rippling. That was a thing. It was the ripple effect. Butterfly effect. Great,

27:36not ripple. I like that. It's a protein drink. I'm going to have two sips. I'm such. You guys do sit. They're witness here. How many are I had? And I'm like, the doctor second time did it. Oh, amazing. I think he's still huge. So like the nicest teddy bear of a guy, young guy. And he was just so kind, explained so much. But I remember my family doctor was in the surgery room just to make sure everything was he was like, you know, I don't want Aaron to get mad. Like I'm falling through. I'm going to be here. When you went under for that procedure, did you know what size you were going under for? Or was it kind of a once you go under, you doctor can figure it out for me kind of situation. What do you think, Heather? It sounds like you didn't know what size you were going in for. So here's the thing. They give you them in the

28:42office to hold. You're like, I'm getting the teddy bear gummies. No, like gum drops, like tear drops. That's what you hear a lot. Yeah, but yeah, the tear drops. You can touch them. And you're like, oh, this is good. This feels good. This is those types of things. And they tell you this kind can ripple this kind won't. Anyway, they go by CCs. So I feel like they were like talking, you know, you're going to be like 350 CCs. But what does that mean to? Well, usually they're able to say of that'll contribute to a full C or a small D. Usually they're able as doctors to tell you that. And they also should tell you that both breasts usually don't get the same amount. Like you're not even on both sides. Where were you when I went in watching TV? Right. Damn it.

29:42Someone. Well, first of all, what year was going to be? Yeah, it sounds like what year was this? The 90s. Still if you're 26, I was 26. Okay. So I don't feel like the general public was as knowledgeable as they are now. No, of course not. So even know what to ask unfortunately. 26, 25. And if you're Tory, you don't ask any. All I know is I got them done. And this gaping hole as trolls have called it online. My Pablo excavators. It is. It was built in first. But here's the thing with plastic surgery or even, you know, if you go and get filler or micro needling, everything is, you know, puffed up and filled down. Looks great at first. And then swelling goes down. The swelling was like on point. I had

30:44it look like just a line. The perfect cleavage. I was like, oh my god, there's no hole in between my boobies. It was so good. And I'm picturing. See you guys know I'm visual in my head. I remember right after I got done, I had red hair. I went to a fox party and oh my god. I think no, that was a different one. It's when Ryan's to process me out. No, no, that was a different year. Okay. Maybe this is party five was on Melrose place. I was in a car with Heather Lockler, who's the kindest ever loved her. And that's where I got some Tommy Lee info that I can never unheared the story. What a tease story. Yeah. Okay, tell this story. So in the limo after and my boobies, there's, I can pull up the photo. They look so perfect.

31:49Low cut. They were swollen still. Cleavage. Perfect. And then once it, you know, once went by, I had my still bone plate thing. It came back and it doesn't go away. Anyway, those boobies stayed for a good, well, not 20 years. Oh, okay. So in the car, I have so many things to tell you. We should do a whole episode on my boobies because I have so many incarnations. Well, if we're going to release the celebrity story, if we're going to follow through on this, if this is something that you really are considering, we should definitely do a boob dedicated episode. You shouldn't go to a movie surgeon. Maybe we talk to a proper surgeon. Yeah, maybe we talk to somebody else who just, you know, got their implants out. She's been on the pod before, but who I was going to bring up was Brandy Glanville. She just had her breast

32:49implants right two weeks ago. And she found out that one of them had ruptured. And she is now saying that this was the cause she thinks of the parasite stuff that was in her face. She's making that connection. And, you know, we are wishing her a speedy recovery, obviously, but it's, it's crazy. She never got her breast implants replaced. And she had them for 20 years. Well, yeah, so did I. Well, I'm done redone again when I was 20, 25, not 26, I believe. Yeah, 26, nine or two hours over. This was earlier. So maybe, oh, gosh, I'll have to look it up. But then redone 2021. And they were expired and outdated, no, recall, recall, lemons.

33:54Joke, please. Yeah. Yeah. So anyway, the doctor who was lovely, my mom decided I should date him. Did you? So I recovered at my parents house in my childhood room at the manor childhood. I moved there at 16 from my old house. I loved to tell people that. So they don't think I grew up there. But my room there, I was recovering. I'll wrapped up. And no one does this anymore. I don't think. But she was like, oh, doc, doctor, I'm going to come over just to check on you. In my brain, I'm like, oh, my God, that's so nice. I'm not worthy. But I'm like, it was just like, no, no, no, no, you know, it's happening. And I was like, great. And then she's like, and I invited him to stay for dinner. And I go, what? So I'm in bed. The chef had made me food. It was a drain,

34:55do you have drains during this? All the things, yeah, all the things. I had a tray in bed that the chef had made me dinner. So I didn't know what to say. So I said, okay. And so he came and like, he had a tray, but he sat like, you know, of course, it's the spelling. So my room huge. So I'm in bed. So he's in bed with me across the room. There's a table and chairs and a couch area. So he's not like, he's over there with his tray. And then I'm just in my head, combusting. Because I'm too nice to say anything. I'm super shy at the time. I'm, you know, on painkillers and recovering from a boob job. And my doctor is there. And I would, my mom's thinking, he's young, he's Jewish, he's successful. This is great. This is awkward. When he said your mom invited him to stay for

35:59dinner. I thought that meant with your parents in a nice room. I was in bed with drains like laying there. It was like two days later. Oh my goodness. Yeah, to come check on me. I couldn't move. Oh my god. Yeah. That's awful. I'm sorry. So long story short. Sorry, sorry if I said backwards, she didn't tell me a date. She just said, doctor, I'm just coming. Oh, and he's going to say for dinner. Okay. Okay. Later they're all joking. They're like, we think he's great for you. Da-da-da-da. And I was like, oh, like go out with him. Da-da-da-da. And that's when I was like, she thought it was great. And she had tried to set us up. And I was like, no, no, no, I was so embarrassed. Super great guy, like, but at the time I was into like bad boy actors to my mother's credit. She was trying to. She had great intentions. Really great intentions. Brilliant.

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38:09It's like the old Polish saying, not my monkeys, not my circus. Yeah, there's a good one. I like that saying it. Is it an actual Polish saying? Yeah, it is an actual Polish saying. Better version of Play, Stupid Games wins, Stupid Prizes. Yes, which by the way, wasn't Taylor Swift who said that for the first time. I actually, I thought it was. I got that wrong. Listen to the Nick Dick and Paul show on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, everyone. I'm Cheryl Strade, author of Wild and Tiny Beautiful Things. I'm excited to share that I have a new podcast called Mind Over Mountain. In each episode, I interview athletes, adventures, and adrenaline seekers to discuss the inner landscapes and life experiences that informed and inspired their extraordinary feeds. I also bring a bit of advice into the mix, so we too can better understand how to face our own seemingly insurmountable challenges. Do you know what I'm going to do? I'm going to pull out what you already have inside. We come into this world fighting for our lives. All I'm going to do is pull out what you already got inside.

39:11We're there to support and celebrate each other. And that's not like your story versus my story. You're going to walk up and over that dang mountain. You're not just going to put your mind over it. Yeah, exactly. And if I can't walk up and over it, I'm going to go through it. Listen to Mind Over Mountain every Thursday on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Anna Navarro, and on my new podcast, Bleep with Anna Navarro. I'm talking to the people closest to the biggest issues happening in your community and around the world. Because I know deep down inside right now, we are all cursing and asking what the bleep is going on. I'm talking to people like Julie Cape Brown, who broke the explosive story on Jeffrey Epstein in 2018. These victims have been let down time and time again for decades and decades and decades by local law enforcement, by federal law enforcement, by administration after administration. The Justice Department, through I think we counted for presidential administrations,

40:15failed these victims. Listen to Bleep with Anna Navarro as part of the Microtuda Podcast Network, available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. So, after she tells me, I'm healing things, I keep getting calls from his office, and all I put in is, you know, my phone, you know, blackberry back then, I don't know. I kept getting calls and I stopped, I didn't respond, and then even he reached out personally, and I'm thinking, oh my god, I don't know what to do, but I'm not into him, I'm just not into him. Like, and you're sure they weren't just calling for checkups post-surgery? By the way, he and I connected years later, and he was like, oh my god, we were calling to

41:15tell you, they were recalled, oh my god, Tory, you can't send the doctor to voicemail. I never set one up on purpose, but it was like my answering machine, I would leave full, you know, you had answering machines, they were trying to call, that's why, oh my god, he was probably like, he's married with kids, we've laughed about this when we've talked, but he was probably like, yeah, okay, great, she's cute and everything, but like, ding, or life's in danger, I'm just trying to jump. Molly, you're in trouble, girl, no, yeah, name it. Ghost, you guys, sorry, we'll be goombers, sorry, to send me more, okay, never mind, anyway, yeah, well, I love that that is something that you're thinking and considering because

42:18I think that overall health and wellness, yeah, leads to a lot of other puzzle pieces in life starting to click into place, so I do think that that's worth looking into for sure. I agree, and you guys know, I'm like, I'm the last person, like, it's my kids, deal with them, like, that's elective, and oh, it's your breasts, you know, I'm like, I don't want to do that again, I'm a single mom, like, taking care of the kids, like, I'm going to have downtime, and it's like, oh, my god, but taking care of you is taking care of the kids at the end of the day, if, but I have a butt here, you guys, it's on my bucket list, it's one of those things, that I'm like, I will do this, but it shouldn't be bucket list, only because, only because, fashion is my passion, I've loved fashion forever, and everything that was, you know, in the 90s,

43:19is back again, and I don't know, my boobs didn't wear clothes well, so I'm determined to wear a slip dress, and look great. On top of that, you need to make them a priority. I know, and it'll be healthy, because, right, to be healthy, to deal with your neck pain, your back pain, your shoulder pain, all of that, which then plays a role in your kids life. It's not a procedure I've had, but I think that getting removal is a quicker bounce back time than getting implants. Health is wealth, which is stealth. 100 percent. Exactly. There you go. No, I've, here's the deal. I have asked the doctor that did me in 21. What if you take him out? And this doctor loved him. One friend went to him. He is

44:25huge on Instagram. Such a nice man. But yeah, I'm not sure I go back to him or maybe look into someone who, that's their gym. That's what you should do. Taking them out because of health reasons. So he did say this maybe also look into a female doctor. There's a lot of women breast doctors for this reason, I think. So just something to consider. And I will have skin and I will have to have what they call a lift, which always freaks me out because I'm like, oh my god, I'm going to have the, what is it? Internal menstrual. Oh, I have that. Oh, okay. That don't work. The anchor scar can either be right, can be on the top and it can also be on the bottom. Why? After everything I've been through in life, that was the thing that was keeping me from doing it. Was the damn anchor scar? Well, at this point at 52, I'm just like, ah, just get it done.

45:30I don't care anymore. I mean, can't do only fans, can't do playboy. I mean, you can do whatever you want. That's right. You can do whatever you want. Oh, Heather, we need to make a marriage. I think you said some kind of wonderful. It's, it's 1998. I know, it's 1989. You can do whatever you want. Do you remember that? Something like that. Oh, my god. I think that your health, my life, is about movie quotes and no one gets me. Nobody in this room gets the quotes. But I will say this. Tori, I know how determined you are when it comes to your work, when it comes to projects, when it comes to obviously being a mom. Yes. And I think that if this is something that's creating a roadblock to those things,

46:31it should be taken seriously and you should prioritize it. Yes. I agree. I think that's something to look into for sure. Anything health related needs to go to the top of the list. And that's always saying this. And use, I mean, have Brandy Glanville in your mind as a warning sign because she really did not look into that. And she's been trapped in her body for the last three years. I know. And that's rough. You don't want to be in feeling sick and going down and all that. You don't want to be stuck in a loop like that where the loop gets longer and longer and longer. You know what I mean? Tori, I know like you're still there. I would just like knit a really chic dress. My boobs won't look good unless I remove them. Sorry, Sarah. I'm not going to make jokes. Yes. Tori, you're still on your health journey and dealing with your sinuses, immune system and all of that. Yes. But you do have to think about all of these things

47:37are connected. They're all in the same body. And so if there's something amiss with one thing, it's probably impacting the other. And so it's important to address everything. Did you watch real housewives of Beverly Hills ever? Always remember Yolanda. She went through everything. She got the fillings removed from her teeth. Oh, from all of her teeth because of what she was going through. She had her implants removed. She did everything. That was hard to watch. She went through hell. Yeah. But she's feeling good now, I think. I know Bella had it, but Yolanda had Lyme as well. Yes. We sat that. Okay. That's good. I don't think we're fillings. So I think me neither. Have you ever had a cavity? I've never had a cavity. Wow. I mean, I got my first cavity at 40. And only one. My dentist told me that people who get cavities, it's not like they depict from

48:45like eating candy and not brushing their teeth. It's actually people that are born genetically with softer teeth than others. And that's why they're prone to getting cavities. And they told me that the only way as a person with stronger teeth and get cavities is actually by like kissing and exchanging saliva with somebody who has that softer side. What? That was what they said to my dentist because I said, no cavities, I go every four months to get my teeth cleaned. I am very regimented with this. Of course you do. Because my retainers won't fit if I'm not constantly getting my teeth cleaned. And so I said, I was always so surprised that no cavities, no cavities. And he was like, you're never going to have cavities. Like at this point in your life, it's never going to happen because of the kind of genetics you have. Unless you make out with the virus. And he's like, unless you end up having a partner that has like this soft tissue and like

49:47your exchanging saliva, dentists come for us if this is incorrect information. Have you ever had a cavity? One. One when I was 40. Oh yeah, when you were 40. Okay. Were you kissing somebody that caused that to happen later in life? Oh, wild. So 40, I was with my husband. Did Dean have cavities? He's good teeth now. I mean, maybe it really? I don't know. Having a hard time believing this. I don't know. I also was one of those kids. I don't think they do this anymore. But this not fluoride, but they put this stuff on my back teeth. That stays permanently. Do they, you're a mom? Do they still do that? No. Okay. So maybe that's maybe that contributed to not having cavities. I had that. And I have cavities. Oh my god. Maybe you're just predispositioned at the soft teeth. Maybe I just made out with a lot of people. Or that. No. Okay. Yeah. This is

50:52what it's showing me that with enough people. In the day, like in the 90s, like I was Donna, good girl. I didn't sleep with people, but I was a kissing bandit. Oh, yeah. That was my jam. Love that for you kissing. Also, everybody around you was like very hot. So that's great. Yeah. But so you're, but I'm saying I can get cavities then. And I kiss like a lot of actor boys. Adentists will leave us a comment about how safe this is. Yeah. Kissing somebody weekly. What do you mean? That was my job. Yeah. Two and a half hour in his teeth boys. Who? I don't know. Brian. Who else to do kiss regularly? Yeah. Text Brian if he's ever had a cavity right now. I mean, David and Donna had to kiss daily. Yeah. I'm saying. I would love to know if he's

51:53when you're doing TV kissing. Are you doing tongue? Or you're just doing open mouth? I thought tongue was like a no-no when acting, but some actors do it, but most actors do not. I'm a method actor. I like to make it real. Yeah. I mean, unless they just weren't cute and I was just like. Okay. So TV movie co-ed call girl. I played school girl by day hooker by night. They don't say hooker anymore lady of the night evening sex worker. That sounds so. But that is the term that is used today. Okay. Well, it was the 90s. Okay. Fine. I also shot my pimp in the movie, but you know, call it that. What do you call it now? Employer? Sex worker employer.

52:54My employer. Where was the HR back then? So anyway, yeah, I had to kiss. It was a movie and it was about like she's this young girl, but there was all different types of men I had to make out with. And on purpose, some of them were just not, you know, it was supposed to be one of these jobs. She's in like Hollywood Boulevard at a motel with a man that was just like answered the door with like pizza and he's like in a tank top and he's like, oh great, get in here. You know, so I had to kiss him. I'll stick my tongue in his mouth. Of course, of course not. Okay, you probably saw that you just got back from Bahamas in Nassau, Bahamas. Not only was I able to lounge in a private Kavanaugh with a drink surge in an actual pineapple, I was also able to record my podcast in their brand new podcast studio. I'm not telling you that

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