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1:26That's K-A-C-H-A-V-A.com, code news. Was good, everybody. Happy Tuesday. Happy first day of Spring Football, y'all. Listen, yesterday was Spring Football Eve. Today is Spring Christmas, I guess. I don't know. Either way, I'm excited. We're pumped lots to talk about, and we're going to absolutely do that. Do me a favor, hit that like button, hit that thumb that you see, subscribe if you have not already, and then also for the people who don't always hit YouTube, Apple people go to apple savers there, spreeker.com for you, not Apple people like me. Go there to make sure you got all bases covered for the content here at Buckeye Scoop. Again, we're going to be talking about the Spring Football Practice,

2:27the first one and who's turning heads and all the happenings, man. We're going to dig into it. Also, remember when you send those wonderful super chats, helps to go towards the pay it forward, which is our military and our first responders. We're going to look out for them because they always look out for us, Nevada Buck. What's up? Happy Spring Football Day, brother. Yeah, wow, what a day. Usually, these Spring Football things covered the first day, there's not much, but this one seemed like there's a lot of stuff going on, and they were jumping right in there. It wasn't just going out there and stretching and handing out forms and walking around and picking your name for the team. We're going to be flamin' hot cheetos this year, so my dad was like, they were into it and doing some stuff, and yeah, with the exciting day, I was excited for Spring Football last night, but now that it's here, I'm even more excited, so lots of great stuff going on. Absolutely. I say, let's jump into these new numbers.

3:30New numbers. I know it's trivial, but it's fun to me, Nevada. Like you said earlier, ballers get single digits, and we're going to talk about that. Let's go over some notable number changes or updates. Nevada, what do you think about Legend Bay getting the number two out the gate? What's your thoughts on that? Well, I mean, I think the heights real. I think that you can say what you want about the single digit numbers, but the single digits are the most coveted numbers. Obviously, the most coveted number of all is one, but two is the next most coveted, and to have a guy come in, and he's not even like he's a trans-reportal kid, so it's not like it was like promised him through them. This is a kid that was in high school last year, come here at the given number two right out of the gate, and I mean, you can't help but think of it like courtesy amulal, or some of the other single digit number of guys,

4:32or kind of gadgety guys that played wide receiver, played running back, were used in a number of different spots, and I think that's exactly what they're going to do with Legend Bay, and I can tell you that everybody's excited about Legend Bay. Everybody's excited, and I think the work that he put in during the winter is noticeable because he's noticeably thicker, he's noticeably stronger, and they've got high expectations for him, and that's why you come to a house that is for high expectations, but that's also by the given number two, so definitely it's something that for sure. Yeah, Ryan Day was talking about the criteria for getting numbers that you want, he mentioned like champions, and how did you do with making the workouts, leadership, being on top, you know, all the little stuff. And so, yeah, I mean, he was already turning heads today,

5:32looking fast and explosive, and all that, man, so very excited. Now, on the flip side, I was a little surprised, not in a bad way, but I kind of like the 97 on Kenyatta, man, that's Bosa, like a Bosa number. It's a great defensive in number. What's your thoughts on him flipping the number two? Now, I like it, but I was still like, eh, I don't know what you think. Well, I mean, you know, it's one of those things where I, I mean, I like the traditional numbers, but then sometimes you want to stand out, you want to be, you know, let me look, James Smith has got a single digit number. You don't see that much from defense, from defensive tackles. You know what I'm saying? And when's the last time you saw a defensive tackle at Ohio State, a true defensive tackle in a single digit number? I mean, I can't remember to ever. I'm saying it hasn't happened, but I can't remember it. Yeah. Now you got me thinking, and every, and every guy I think of is a single digit,

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8:37You get qualified candidates fast. So while other companies might deliver a lot of, hey, Zip Recruiter, find you what you're looking for. The needle in the haystack. See why four out of five employers who post a job on Zip Recruiter get a quality candidate within the first day? Zip Recruiter, the smartest way to hire. And right now, you can try Zip Recruiter for free. That's right. Free at ziprecruiter.com slash Zip. That ziprecruiter.com slash Zip, ziprecruiter.com slash Zip. Right. He might be the first. He might be the first. I mean, what number was Alonzo Spelman? And I guess, and you can make an argument for him being a defensive end, though. You know what I'm saying? Because he's all over. He was all over the line. He was a lot of amongst her. But he might have been this thing. But let's put it this way. It doesn't happen often. 99, okay. He was 99. I guess I got the opposite. I got the opposite of the single digit. The only number would have been I would have been if it was 100. You're like, you're number 100.

9:42James Smith, number four. Like, holy guacamole. That's pretty crazy. Actually, he's number, I think he's three. He's three. Three is a three. A waiver was four. Way four. Yeah, but he's like, yeah, I mean, that's wild, man. That's just wild. No, I agree. I agree. So that's different. So the Bama boys trying to come in and you know, switch things up a little bit. Petty John, number five. I was like, okay. Okay, Petty John. That's pretty cool. Let me see what else other notable. No, Riley Petty John, who's out for the spring with the minor injury being worked on, you know, a little surgical procedure. Nothing that's going to hold him out, but out for the spring. We'd kind of alluded to it last night about some availability of reps at the linebacker position. So that's what we were talking about. But yeah, like, Krishna Legra on those guys are going to probably get some younger. Petty John now is for number five, but we won't see it until the fall.

10:43Right. So hill up, get better. Get back as soon as you can. You know, Petty John family is a friend of the show. Dev has interviewed them a good million times. Great people. I think he's a young stud and a waiting. So get healthy. Get those mental reps. And also number three, McEwen. I've heard several, several people talk about how fast and good McEwen look today, including Ryan Day, Nevada. McEwen, for those who don't know, he's the kid and shoot. It's such a small school. I always forget the name of it. But he was a standout. Go ahead. You know the school. You T San Antonio. You T San Antonio. He was a standout for them. And I know some people poo-pooed it because it's a small school. But I'm telling you, there's been good kids who have come from small schools. And now in this portal world, these late blooming kids have an opportunity to step up on the big stage. And this kid is good.

11:45And Ryan Day called him a pro. Called him and Kyle Parker from LSU pros is what he called them. That's a great sign. We knew they were experienced. But now they're at Ohio State. LSU is no joke. LSU is LSU. But it's still good to see them come in the first day off the gate in Nevada with some praise from the head man. Yeah, I mean, I think those guys can play. And Ohio State thinks those guys can play. And they certainly look the part. And I would be surprised. And I think Ohio State's doing really good about their portal evaluations. I've seen you never really know until you get deeper into spring ball. And I'll see into the fall. But early returns are they're very happy. And that's not always the way it is. Sometimes they're like, uh-oh, we made, I made a booboo. You know, on this one, I can tell you on Victor Cutler, they were feeling questionable like right off the from jump street. They were like, oh man, I'm not sure what we just did here.

12:45Even kind of was going through it kind of similar thing as well. But I can tell you that I haven't heard any of that. This, you know, this spring, you know, or over the winter into this spring, they're feeling really good about all the guys that they got. And specifically those two White receivers that are looking for those guys to make an intermediate impact. And boy, that would be a nice surprise for those who White receiver room. Absolutely. So real quick before we get into any more players, I want to talk about, uh, now we knew Nevada. You, you told everybody a few weeks ago about, uh, map attrition. And how much he was getting paid. But now it's all out in the public. So map attrition, 3.75 million, um, in 2026. And then he bumps up to 3.85 and 27 and 28. Three-year deal. He is now the highest paid coordinator slash assistant in the country. Nevada, what's your thoughts on

13:46Maddie P getting paid and being the highest paid man out there? Well, yeah, I'd heard three years, 10 million dollars. So this was even a little bit, you know, marginally higher than that. But, um, hey, you got to pay the man. I mean, he came, the job that he did last year was nothing short of miraculous in terms of the way that he, you know, coordinated the defense, you know, lost eight starters and then took the defense to even, you know, greater heights. You know, also, Maddie P not that this is a big deal, but Matt P is going to be one of the 10 accountable coaches. So he's going to be on the road recruiting Arthur Smith is not. We've talked about that before, Arthur Smith, you know, which is kind of the new meta. I think to get these guys to come in and take these jobs, you know, you'll have to slumb it for a million and a half. And they doesn't have any recruiting responsibilities. Right. And so, you know, Patricia's got a little bit more of a expanded job. But look, you know, Ryan Day is going to war with two X NFL head coaches as his coordinators.

14:47And I'm, he feels really good, you know, about the guys that he has. And in the way that they just conduct themselves, you know, the way they're maturity, their experience. And the fact that Ryan can now go back to full time to being a CEO and let these guys run the room. What a great, you know, what a great blessing for him. But yeah, Matt P, 3.75 million, well worth it. And I'm sure that the bucket's probably even going higher, but you're well worth every penny. Absolutely. I love it. It's great to head coaches as your coordinators. I don't see how people can keep playing that down. I know we got to see what happens on the field. But boy, I'm excited about that, man. So kudos to a house. They for working it out. He absolutely had options like Ryan Day was saying earlier. But they made this happen. They made it happen. And I'm very happy about it. So transitioning back, I see y'all in the chat talking about

15:49Chris Henry Jr. And it was dope to see Chris Henry Jr. get his dad's number 15, right? That was good to see. And he also caught a nice, excuse me, 70 yard bomb today according to Ryan Day and practiced. And then I saw some in the chat. I think it was Matt Randalls talking about a can you imagine covering Chris Henry Jr. and JJ Smith. Good luck. Oh, wait. So I know. So yeah, I mean, we've been saying that all all season. We agree. And he he looked physically the part. I know he's a he's always been a wiry tall, wiry type of kid. But his height kind of helps balance that out. And he's gotten bigger. He's gotten bigger. So he's going to be a problem early, early. Even if it's just, I mean, 50 50 ball wise. He's excellent.

16:51Even put it like this and about it. I said like this. Even if he wasn't 65, he still has great 50 50 ball skills. So if he was 62 and a half, I still think he will be really good. Like a Devon Smith. Devon Smith was not 65. But he was excellent at 50 50 balls. So he's excellent with his height. So I see y'all talking about Chris Henry Jr. Super excited about him. Ryan Day seemed to really love what the receivers look like today. So Nevada, what's your thoughts on Chris Henry Jr. I mean, we're going for a treat. We're going for a treat. You know, Chris Henry Jr. with Julien's going to him and and JJ Smith on the other side. And Arthur Smith, you know, cool fence. I mean, you're in for a show. And you know, everybody that's been around Chris Henry Jr. I've seen Chris Henry play many times. He just doesn't look like anything that I've ever seen before at Y Receiver. You know, because he's so big.

17:51But he moves so well. And he's a glider. He glides around out there. So, you know, I know he's not a four three. But I mean, he runs well. He doesn't get caught much from behind. And to be that big and to have that type of a catcher radius. And you'd be able to go up and get the ball. I mean, I it's like I said, it's it's going to be something. We're going to see something very, very special this year. So, you know, buckle up. Get your chips and your drink and be ready to watch it. Because I'm not sure we've ever seen anything quite like it before. And I'm not sure we'll ever see anything quite like it again. Because I'm not sure when we'll have another Julien saying JJ Smith to kind of pair along with him. But it's I'm going to be here for every minute of watching Chris energy and play that for sure. Definitely. And look at him. Here's a picture of him towering over everyone. Not looking small. I mean, he's he's still finished. But he doesn't look small. And so, yeah, he's going to be a terror

18:52out there lining up against DBs. You know, I don't know. Is the second corner going to try to line up with him? You know, is he going to draw matchups from the third? You know, corner and stuff like that. If you got JJ out there, Brandon and this in the slot. It's like that's that's going to be very difficult to go up against your weakest corner with this dude as a true freshman. So, I'm excited about Chris and Virginia. I definitely agree. But yes, Ryan Day seemed to be very happy with his first impressions with this Y receiver room. Now, one thing I want to kind of pivot back to. And I know we're just going to be all over the place, but it was a lot going on today. So, I want to pivot back to Legend Bay, but more specifically, the running back room. Nevada, because I know some people are kind of,

19:53I don't want to say freaking out, but they're concerned. About his comments. Ryan Day mentioned that he was concerned with the running back room. We all know that Isaiah West and Bo Jackson are out for the spring. Those are the two leaders in the clubhouse with reps and experience and all of that. And so now, you have turbo Rogers who did not play last year as your most experienced guy. Warning, the following Zipper Cruder radio spot, you are about to hear is going to be filled with F words.

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22:59dad going to legend Bay, who is who's coming off a plan quarterback for his high school. And I was watching drills with a man. I'll tell you, man, coach lock is crazy. Coach lock is a madman out there. I've seen him coaching person. And obviously we've seen clips. But he got after legend Bay a few times. And favor because they didn't have the ball up high and tight. And so, um, anyway, the point is Nevada. I know how I feel about this. But I want to hear your thoughts. Do you, how, how much do you read into Ryan Day's comments about his concern with the running back room? Or do you just like, uh, like, how do you feel about it? I mean, I, I think that it would probably be the same for most rain back rooms where you're missing the one and two backs, you know, your thousand yard rusher from last year.

24:00I mean, how many teams wouldn't have concerns about that? You know, then you're down to running backs three, four, and five through the spring. Um, I'm, I'm, I'm not concerned about it. Um, you know, for me, I look at it. I always think in this particular situation with these particular resources that we have, we should be a past first team. We should pass the set up the run. And if, if concerns in the running back room or lack of depth during the spring or whatever causes us to lean more into our passing game, you know what? I'm all about that because I, I, I've always felt that the idea that, you know, we're not playing football in the 70s anymore. This is 2025, um, you can win past first. And, you know, I, I, I hope that they activate the quarterback run in a limited fashion, you know, because everybody else in the world does it. And we're, we're literally the only team in the world that doesn't run it. And our fan base is the most scared fan base.

25:01And then what if somebody gets hurt? It's football. You know, somebody can get hurt. You know, this is, but you got to activate the quarterback run into it, lean into your passing game, lean into your short pass game, lean into your screen game, lean in, you know, throw it to your flankers, use Legend Bay and, and uh, interesting ways. So I'm, I'm not really, you know, concerned about it. Um, I, I think it's just the, it's a, you know, you have to, you're not going to get out there and say everything is great right now, especially when you're too returning running back to moisture or both sitting, you know, on the sideline. So I, I think it's, it's much to do about nothing. Yeah, I agree, um, exactly. It's like, okay, it's like, what do you expect? Um, to me, I think from Coach Day's standpoint, I don't think he's hitting the panic button. I think he's trying to motivate them through the media and get after them. Because you can imagine Ryan Day is on their butts, like, and on coach, like, hey, these boys got to step up.

26:04We need them to grow up fast because we got our two veterans out. And we need them to step up. And so I think it's a motivating factor. You got two freshmen and a red shirt freshman who did not play leading that room right now. And it's the first day of practice. So again, you got kids coming in who have not had an actual house they college football practice yet. So they're going to be sloppy. They're trying to learn, okay, where do I go? What's the pace of practice? How does, you know, Locke want me to do this? It's, it's an adjustment. And so, you know, most kids are following the leader in line. You know, the DBs, the young DBs were looking at Caleb Bounds last year. They were looking at, you know, uh, Matthews. They don't got that right now. So they got to, they got to jump in and do it quick. And so I agree about it. I don't think it's a big deal. I think this running back room is going to be just fine.

27:04I think the talent is there. They just need to get acclimated to what they're being asked to do, especially with no veteran leadership in front of them in that room. So I agree. How many returning yards do we have? Do you know what I'm saying? Zero? I mean, yeah, I mean, there's just right. Ryan couldn't answer the question any other way. Oh, I feel great. You know, I mean, I just feel peachy. You know, I mean, it's a very unusual situation where you, I mean, I, I, I, I, are leading Russia from Australia. It's got to be Julian Sain. And yeah, you know, I mean, like, so we just don't have any yards coming back on that. Now he, he did go out of his way, though, to talk about how deep and good the offense line was. And I'm like, wow, I wonder, wonder where I've heard that. Right. Right. What a shock. One word. Everybody panic. They panic. Yeah, that's like, I mean, you know, he had more is a super talented kid.

28:05That kid could play guard. That kid could play tackle. He could play all over the line. We've just got so many kids, you know, the Josh PD is out with a little, little procedure. But you've got so much depth on the offensive line. It's almost crazy how much you definitely have an offensive line. So of all the positions the people were, but don't worry about the offensive line. I mean, let's worry about other things. But we're not about the offensive line, man. I'm talking about the defensive line. I think it's legitimate to talk about, hey, we got some, some holes. I think we can fill them. But the offensive line, we've got dudes and proven dudes and proven dudes with starts under their belt on top of that. So I have zero concerns about the offensive line. Yeah, regarding the offensive line, Coach Day did say, Padea would be limited in the spring. So Josh Padea, who played well against Miami, he will be limited. So that's something, you know, to know, it's nothing major, but there's that.

29:06And then also one other thing on Legend Bay, Coach Day nailed exactly what we've been saying as far as a comp. We've been saying Curtis Samuel and Xavier Johnson, like literally, but especially Curtis Samuel. So we were very spot on with that. And you can see it in his game. Like that's exactly how we need to use him. Running back, you know, we can motion him out to the slot to get favorable matchups against linebackers. Or, you know, you know, if they're in the nickel, the nickel DB, slot corner who can't guard him, you know, I'm hoping, Nevada, at some point, it's a little early, but I'm hoping that we install some, some plays where he can pass. He'll get it in the round and throw the ball because, no, he's not a college D1 college quarterback at this level,

30:06but he's good enough to throw the ball and be a threat. Like he's not a bum throwing the ball now. So I want to see all types of gadgetry with Legend Bay eventually. But for now, I'm excited to see him back there. And I want to see him get some reps at punt return. Yeah, I mean, he's a guy that you just want to see the ball in his hands and, you know, there's many different ways as possible. And I hope we're not putting too much on the kid. But I tell you how state's excited about him. He's going to get a lot of activity this, you know, this spring with, with everybody down, you know, now they're running back from Florida. They're running back from Florida. Yes. Jacob Jackson. Yeah, yeah. I mean, that guy, he's interesting. He's interesting player and I think he's a guy that, while we're talking about returning yards at Ohio State, he's a guy that's rushed for yards in college at Florida. And he's going to be, he's worth keeping an eye on as well.

31:08Because I've talked to a couple of people and they both mentioned him to me, not like over the moon, but like, hey, this guy looks like he's a football player. So I'm really interested to see what he can do as well. But he's going to get a lot of opportunity to do it. Because this spring, you know, we're thin at running back. But that just means, you know, opportunity knocks for somebody to come through and take the opportunity to use the spot and make an impression on Arthur Smith. Because Arthur Smith hadn't seen any of these guys. He hadn't seen Bo Jackson. He hadn't seen Isaiah West. So you make that person person in him that maybe an abiding one for sure. Very true. Clean slate. And I'm glad you brought him up because it came to me after we went on our little zero yards. I was like, oh, yeah, Jacobi Jackson. Now, technically, he has zero yards as a buck eye, but he does bring yards from Florida. And shout out to dev. By the way, dev will be going live after us tonight. Make sure you check out dev after the show. But dev kind of got me to get my eyes on Jackson. A little more.

32:08And I see the chat. Yes, he is known as a really good blocker. He might end up being the best blocker on the team. We'll see. But I've also heard today that he looked really good physically. Like he looked like a rock out there. So yeah, don't want to sleep on Jackson. He has some experience, but he just doesn't have Ohio State practice experience. So that matters. So I'm glad you brought that up. And I wanted to bring up Julian Saiyan. So I'm going to put this on the screen. So I tweeted this out. This is a quote from Coach Day. He talked about him making an impact with his legs when appropriate. He said, we know that's the X factor that has to show up this year. He's aware of that. And we've been working hard in the all season. So Nevada, we've been saying we've been talking about this all off season. About how

33:08him not running as much in certain spots needs to change. It was said after the Miami game by Julian, it was said by Ryan Day. We talked about how Ryan Day needs to make sure he's not sending mixed messages to his quarterbacks and his offense. Because in the past, he's been a little restrictive with this quarterbacks running the ball. Okay. So now it seems to me, Nevada, that over the years as a as a head coach and seeing the game and all that and still learning, in my opinion, and I know some people are still skeptical hippo, but I've been saying leading up to even now that I felt like things were going to change. I feel like over time, the worm is going to start turning towards him, putting more actual real emphasis on him running. And today's comment unprompted because they didn't ask about him running in this. They were just talking about Julian saying and he led into this comment y'all talking about his throwing and commanded offense and he ended his comment with this, Nevada.

34:12Did you see this quote and what's your thoughts on it? Well, look, I think this is about the the journey that Ryan Day is on and his kind of evolution as a head coach because I've talked to players that played quarterback at Ohio State for under Ryan Day. And they've told me that, you know, whether it's implicit, it's certainly, it's certainly implied that he just hasn't been that isn't looking for them to run the ball. You know what I'm saying? And so they don't run the ball. Finding great candidates to hire can be like, well, trying to find a needle in a haystack. Sure, you can post your job to some job board, but then all you can do is hope the right person comes along, which is why you should try Zippercrooter for free at zippercrooter.com slash zip. Zippercrooter doesn't depend on candidates finding you. It finds them for you. It's powerful technology identifies people with the right experience and actively invites them

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37:21of changed my word, but this is definitely a change because, you know, whether he's singing it explicitly, you know, I'm saying, I don't want you to run or he's just kind of going, you know, you're not really brought here to be a running back, you know, hey, we look for other guys to go get those yards and do that. Hey, you know, Sam, you know, hey, your health is paramount and we can't afford to have you get her, you know, there's so many different things that he's done that caused guys to go, they think twice before they run the football. And I think Ryan's got to change that and hopefully, hopefully this is the start of him doing it in 2026. Agreed. And I keep telling people, listen, I'm a press conference boy, I watch all the pressers. I've watched Ryan Day since he's been here faithfully. I've studied him. I've, you know, just taking notes and I'm telling y'all, now y'all can still say you're skeptical and this is not it, but well, he's just talking. I'm telling you, like Nevada just said, this is different. This is different. And so the question

38:24is, will he follow through with this difference of engaging the press about this particular thing with the quarterback running again, the quote, he said, we know that's the X factor. He said, um, with his legs, when appropriate, which is important because nobody's asking him to run Q draws every two plays and be Braxton Miller. All we're saying is, just like in a Miami game, when sleepy eyes, Carson Beck took advantage, when pressure was coming, he saw nothing downfield, he took off and picked up critical first downs to move the chains for his team. That's what Julian Sandey's to do. There was one particular play where it was three yards to the first down and he could have got it with his feet easily. He didn't do it. Now, some people think he's scared to run. I disagree. Nevada, we have both let y'all know that he what he rushed for over a thousand yards in high school. If I'm correct over his four years, um, it might be more than that. He was deemed a dual

39:29threat quarterback in his recruiting profile. No, he's not Braxton Miller, but he can run. He's not slow. He can certainly pick up a first down, you know, on third and five if there's an opening. He can do it, but he's a quarterback and a elite quarterback who's looking downfield, but he has to understand situationally that, bro, you got to just get get move the chains. You cannot wait, okay? Unless it's just right there wide open, okay? Cool. If not, you got to take off and that comes with time and a feel of the game and an emphasis from the coaching staff to do that and I'm encouraged, I think it's actually going to happen. All people laugh at me. They've already laughed at me, Nevada. Oh, you know, he just talking. I disagree. I think this is going to be a change, Nevada, and I'm looking forward to it. Yeah, I think it's going to be a change. It would just because, you know, one Ryan day is not a stupid person, okay? And it would take a stupid person at this point

40:32to ignore the impact of the quarterback running on cultural ball games. You know what I'm saying? I mean, like the evidence, it's not even about opinion anymore. It's just like everybody runs. Everybody athletic guys, non athletic guys, big guys, small guys, you know, indoor, outdoor, good weather, bad weather, they all run. And so, you know, when you're when you're literally the only team in college football that doesn't run the quarterback at some point, you got to tune in. So I, I do believe it is just because I think Ryan has kind of seen, I don't know why it's taken him this long, frankly, but here we are and being a better late than never. Yep, better late than never, for sure. A couple other notes, you know, I'm sure a lot of you have heard this, but the staff seems to like Lee Roy Roker. He was told to lead, you know, the huddle today. And so Roker, he seems to be a leader. He was over the depth chart on some of these guys that transferred

41:35and we thought were higher recruits. Now, I still, I guess, want to see more from Roker. I trust the staff, but Nevada, there was a play. I forget, again, to it was, but he got burnt badly and is still in my mind. So I need some other plays to erase that from my memory. But with that said, I'd defer to the staff. Obviously, clearly, they like him on the field and as a leader. So anything on Roker being caught out today. Yeah, I mean, look, you've got to, you've got to open safety spot. And he's a guy that, you know, I've seen it through my years of watching Ohio State. You always, there's always somebody every year that kind of, you know, maybe has come in and had limited action didn't do well or just been kind of buried a little bit. And you start to see it. It's stuff like this. I mean, the fact that they're having him, you know, lead the huddles, that's not a small thing. That's a something. And so, you know, when they're doing that, you know, they're, they're telling him, hey, this is your time.

42:36You've got an opportunity to do it and would not surprise me at all to see him do it. Again, he's another guy who's named that I've heard from the strength and conditioning staff over the winter. So he'd really put in the work. So it's nice to see somebody put in the work. And then, you know, how it kind of gets translated to the field here. Although, you know, first day in Spring football, I wouldn't be surprised at all to see him make a move here in this spring. So they definitely wouldn't form. Yeah, for sure. I mean, listen, again, as a fan, because I'm a fan, you know, I'm an analyst. I'm a podcaster. I'm a, I'm a football junkie, a critical thinker, but I'm still a fan. And so, you know, you basically, at the end of the day, I'm smart enough to defer to the staff because they see these players more. Does that mean the staff is, is infallible and incapable of making mistakes? Absolutely not. We've seen some things over the years that blabla up. That was a mistake. And clearly, here's the evidence. But

43:37more often than not, if you got a good smart staff, they're going to make the right decision. And so they see these kids more than we do. And they like Roker a lot. And one other note, Allegrio from Wisconsin was hearing that he looks bigger than people thought and faster. He won a rep against a passing rep against a believer running back. And so, you know, I think, I don't know. I'm very curious to see it. Because again, going back and watching him, Nevada, he was good for Wisconsin. He was a good player. Like he's, he's one of those guys where he's a football player. I know that's cliche and overused, but that's what he is. He can make tackles. He's not slow. He can get out to the quarterback. He's physical. And so, I'm very curious to see what he comes in and does in this linebacker room, especially with only the two linebackers we primarily use in our 425 look. Anything on Allegrio and him coming in, you know, looking good so far.

44:41Well, not surprising. Again, he was a guy that, you know, I think he was the defensive player of the game for Wisconsin twice against Ohio. I mean, he's always been a pain in our, in our side. I mean, he's a guy that you notice. He's a guy that, you know, you know, I'm not surprised at all to see him kind of. It'd be more surprising to me if he wasn't impact a little Ohio State. So, yeah, I mean, he's one of the guys that I'm the most excited about. Probably the one that I'm most sure about because coming from another big 10 school. So, you know, he's familiar with the league. Notice how to play veteran guy, leadership guy. You know, he got the equivalent of the block O there at Wisconsin. And I'm not surprised at all to hear that he's playing well doing well. I think he's going to be a terrific player for Ohio State. Yep. Yep. And in good leadership, good veteran experience and leadership coming into that room. So, you know, I mean, that's kind of what it comes down to. But yeah, I see y'all in the chat talking about saying. And before we get the super chats again,

45:45because to me, based on the comments, I just don't know for on the same page. And like, again, and you tell me if you, if you agree, Nevada, we're not saying we need Julian saying to be will Howard. That's not what I'm saying. I don't think Nevada saying that. We don't need him to be a dual threat quarterback. We just need him to understand situational football when it makes sense to take off and run to move the chains for your team. That's it. That's it. And I brought up the comparison to Carson Beck in that game. Carson Beck was never known as a running quarterback. Matter of fact, he was clowned for not being, he for being a statute. And listen, I'll be honest, he burned me because remember Nevada. Me, you and Dev, we're talking about who will we rather see Texas A&M or Miami. One of the reasons why I wanted to see Miami is because sleepy eyes Beck

46:47was a statute. He was never known for running. But guess what? As a ninth year senior however long he's been in college football, he was savvy and experienced in season enough to know the situation and take off and make huge plays with his feet to move the chains. That's what we're saying. He needs to go, he needs to drop back and look down field primarily. But as he continues to grow as a quarterback, he'll have a feel for the game to know when to take off and scramble. That's what we're saying. Nevada, do you agree with that? I mean, look, in four of the last five years, we've had zero rushing TDs out of our QB1, zero. Over that same four seasons, the next lowest combined out of 133 schools was seven. We were zero. I mean, that's how far we are behind everybody else in terms of running the quarterback. So, like opportunistic running for sure. I mean, heck, I don't even mind if it's

47:52fluttered in whatever long and you call a designed quarterback draw like they did with Fernando Mendoza, you know what I'm saying? Like, if they give it to you, you know, Julien saying it is not a porcelain doll. He rushed for a mortgage art and high school at archmaning. He can do this. You know, I'm like, I don't get this thing where it's like, we just can't, we got to wrap them in bubble wrap and, you know, Julien, the boy and the bubble saying, I mean, I just don't get it. So, um, yeah, I don't know why that crap be up so late. Of course, dude, don't. Well, but I mean, it's true. I mean, I, the way people talk about it, it's like, like, you know, I mean, nobody wants to have their quarterback, you know, hurt and put out for the year, but I think the risk of that is really overdone. That doesn't really happen that often, you know what I'm saying? Especially if you're not just hammering your quarterback in, I mean, freaking Patrick Mahomes was the leading rusher for the chiefs through eight games last year.

48:53Through eight games. He was the leading ruck Patrick Mahomes, the franchise, the face of the NFL, and not exactly a fleet guy. You know, you're not talking about Lamar Jackson or, you know, you're not talking about Josh Allen, you know, you're freaking Patrick Mahomes was the leading rusher. So Patrick Mahomes can run, you know, he makes, what does he make? 60 million a year or something like that? You're too, you're too, you're too, we can't run julienne saying. Come on. Yeah. Come on. No, I agree. I agree. And also, uh, the, the word is he looks bigger. As he should be in an await program and, and, you know, a young man is still growing. And so that's going to help it. Like you said, like, yes, sometimes it's okay to dial up. I want to make it even more clear, because I agree Nevada. It's okay to dial up a, um, a Q draw on third and long when the defense thinks that it's never going to happen. Like, they're not going to run julienne saying. And then he has a wide open lane up the middle to get

49:57the first down. And they're, and they're in man defense and all the, all the defenders are run off on deep routes. And he's back there and it takes off. Like he can do that and he can learn how to slide or he can learn how to get down. So again, we're not saying we need to run him and pound him like JT Barrett. No way. He's not that dude. But he can certainly be savvy enough to pick up, uh, five yards here, seven yards there and, and use him situationally to confound the defense. Like period. So I'm excited about this quote. And I think we're going to see growth with this Nevada. So you have it. Well, Arthur Smith ran Aaron Rogers last year. They ran some option with Aaron Rogers. And Aaron Rogers is a hundred years old and two bad knees that can't, you know, I mean, I could outrun Aaron Rogers and they ran him. So if they could run Aaron Rogers, you can sure his heck run jail four time NFL MVP or Aaron Rogers, you can sure his heck run Julian saying. Come on.

51:02Yep. And my last thing I'll say because again, this has been a contentious back and forth in general with fans is that I do agree with something on the chat. Now, okay, I have some, some understanding for Coach Day and any coach when you have chugging off behind your quarterback or a, you know, somebody you notice that can't play that well. I understand the angst of not running your quarterback too much because you are done so if they get hurt. Now, in this case, last year, Lincoln King holds, I don't think he was, he wasn't great, but he wasn't bad. I think he could have been fine. Maybe he's no chugging off this year. I have confidence in Tavion saying clear in his third year. I think there may be more confidence that, hey, we don't want saying to get hurt,

52:02but if he did, Tavion, this is his third year. And he's pretty darn good. I think we'll be okay. So I'll end it with that. I don't know if you wanted to respond to that before we get the super chats, but no, I just don't, I just don't think you can ever live your life just more than about the, you know, I mean, if Julian saying, if Julian saying could get hurt in practice, Julian saying could get hurt carrying a TV up and down the stairs, like, you know what I'm saying? Like, you know, I mean, there's a million ways that people can get hurt. So, you know, I, I, our offense will never reach its full potential until you activate the quarterback run. It just won't, it's impossible to do it in modern football. You have to present that as a threat to, to the opposition until you do that, you're just making it, but you're making it so hard. Yeah. I agree. This fun, this is funny from bootzilla. Chugs was a Buckeye legend for that couple of minutes. Yeah. When, uh, when Justin Fields went out and chugs came in, they've

53:02even throw, remember to hand throw and he had the guy open. If he'd have, uh, touched on past chugs, I mean, chugs, they'd have named like some cauliflower pizza after chugs up there at the little brown drug up in Michigan or something like that. It had been the paid shivers and chugging off some cauliflower pizza. Oh goodness. I remember when chug with chugs went that game. I was just like Jesus Christ. Lord help us. But, um, that is funny. He said he was a legend. All right. Let's get into these super chats. Kevin Noobie. Thanks for the 199. Player comp for James Smith. Mike Hall. Oh, H Nevada. I owe. What do you think about this? Um, I haven't washed enough about James Smith. I think size wise. They're comparable because James Smith is only like two, six, two and a half. I don't know if he's as quick as Mike Hall is. What are your thoughts on this? I mean, that's a good comp. They say we can only hope he can, he's half the player that he is. But physically, they're similar size and similar build. I mean, he's, he's not a big, you know,

54:08a big guy, you know, he's not, you know, but he's, he's definitely, you know, kind of square stocky. He looks like every, you know, Alabama line lineman from the past 20 years. It's like they, you know, like those guards from, uh, uh, with the third star wars movie, the, the, the return of the Jedi, when they went there and they have those guards marching those little stocky guys that are with the thing and the helmets and stuff. That's, that's what he lineman. That's Alabama D lineman, man. He looks just like what I mean, because he's just, he's just square and very, very difficult to move. And, um, like I said, I, I think Mike Hall is a good comp. I hope he's, uh, I hope he's half the play of the microscope. Mike was a stud here to honestly. Yeah, he was. Um, so yeah, uh, we'll see. I cannot wait. We, we talked about yesterday. I cannot wait to see the Bama boys out there in this system. And Quay Resolve, thanks to road tide, um, you know, for his insight as a Bama fan, road type of life for being healthy. He was, he missed five games last year. So I'm extra

55:12paying attention to, uh, Quay Resolve. Stilly Matt, thanks for the one and a nine. Billy D, Tech Mo Bo Bo Jackson. He's referring to my, I love this shirt. I wear it. I rotated every, you know, every now and then I, I won't wear it. I will wear it every day if I could and not be caught a bum on the podcast. Did you wash your shirt? Be Moses? I love this shirt. It's just an idea. I came up if I had it pressed. Maybe I should sell these Nevada. Maybe I should, um, you know, make these available. But I'm a nostalgic Tech Mo Bo fan. So thanks for shouting out out Stilly anything on that Nevada. Oh, you can just put like the B Moses plays in there from your high schools. Like B Moses left B Moses right. B Moses, B Moses found the middle or B Moses shoots the fallaway J because B Moses is tired. I can't drive to the rim anymore. You know what I'm saying? Hey, maybe I can. Maybe I can have like different, um, styles of shirts like this, you know? Yeah, with, with different playbooks on it. That might be an idea. I like it. Let's do it. All right,

56:13Sam 8, 5, 3, 6, 2, thanks for the 49. I think it's safe to say we have the three best names for running backs in college football with Bo Jackson, Legend Bay and several Rogers. That's a great, that's a great point. That is that you're right. I would defy any university to match up against what we have name wise for our running backs. That's an absolute great point, Nevada. I think they're going to be, they don't think it'd be better if we had a fourth guy name like Archie Griffin or something like that. But yeah, those are those are those are, that's a great super jack because those are those are three quality running back names for sure. And, um, yeah, yeah, I mean, Bo Jackson. We didn't grow up as Bo Jackson, you know, there reminds me of that ESPN commercial. They had, there's an old ESPN commercial where they'd be like reservation for Michael Jordan. And it was somebody like guy and everybody's like, all disappointed. That was great. Yeah, Michael George. But I mean, Bo Jackson, that's a similar thing and

57:14he comes in and rushes for over a thousand yards of Ohio State. So yeah, Bo, Bo Legend and Turbo, man, I love it. And what made that commercial even funnier is the white Michael Jordan, he anticipated the disappointment every time. He did a great job of like, yeah, table, table for Michael Jordan. Yeah, that was good. That was good. All right, still he mad. Thanks for the 199. This must be inside joke. Shout out the carp lips. And he has some kissy emojis and laugh emojis. Ha ha, Shane. Listen, our chat is crazy. They have inside jokes galore. I don't get this one, but I don't need to because it's hilarious to them. And they have a ton of fun on his dag on three at Nevada. Yeah, I mean, yeah, it's hard to, yeah, I'm, I'm glad that I can't see because it'd be too distracting because there's so much good stuff going on. It is very distracting. You have to read the thing, do the stuff, man, you need hazard payment for all that you're doing, man. Yeah, because I'm literally listening,

58:18listen to Nevada, just, you know, you know, just eloquently make his point in my eyes or in a chat like, he just say that they might. I'm just like, oh, man, Nevada's over here cooking and I'm just seeing him just, you know, all types of hilarity, but that's why we got the best chat in the land. All right, so Nevada going to have to fight Joe B for Jessica. Another inside joke that Nevada actually gets though. But still he met once again, thanks for the 199. Yes, this had me weak. And I know Nevada was not trying to be funny. Julian saying it is not a porcelain doll. I know he was not that was not like some punchline where, oh, this is really going to get them laughing, but it was hilarious because I picture Julian say it out there running around like a porcelain doll and just shattering it to a million pieces. Yeah, thinking of a first down. You think you think that you think the way they treat him that that that he is, but no, he's actually actually it's I

59:22think so. I saw him rush for a 100 yards in a high school game. He's a tough kid. He can do it. Brian just got to give him the green light and then let's go. You know what? I might be able to I might be able to I might clip your comments and make a video like a real of him actually running in high school and running on a house day because people forget he actually ran and picked up first down to your house day. His freshman year and last year. Remember, so he's capable. So I might have you saying Julian saying it's not a porcelain doll as he's running down field. Hmm, I got some ideas. That might be a good sound bite. I like it. Yeah, all right. Cool. Fun show, great show. First day of spring footballs in the books. It was very eventful. We will be getting much more intel, more information as the practice days roll by. I'm excited. Any last words about

1:00:23if we bang out of here? Not just great first day, but really, really good. I mean, first days usually don't go like this. This is a really good first day of spring football and can't wait for day two. Absolutely. All right. Remember, we got dev coming up shortly. Make sure you hop on with dev. I mean, he's going to get you all some great content per usual great information book at school family book. I nation love y'all until tomorrow. We'll see you all then. Go bucks and peace.

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