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2:09Please consider subscribing. Hit that subscribe button. We're getting closer to our 40k mark. We will greatly appreciate it if you do that. And then for the people who don't always do YouTube, Apple people go to Apple podcast, save us there. The non Apple folks like me go to spreeker.com and save us there. We're going to be talking about some inside the defensive scheme for 2026 really good nugget on the buckeye scoop board from the second wise men today. And we're going to dig into that amongst a few other things, but also remember when you send those wonderful super chats helps to go towards the pay afford, which is our military in our first responders. We're going to look out for them because they always look out for us as I bring Nevada in. We're going to just going to get straight to it and say rest in peace to the legend. And Blue Holtz, Blue Holtz, he's a heck of a guy. Over the years, we've experienced a lot with him. He was a buckeye assistant, you know, obviously legendary Notre Dame head coach, been in, you know, television for years, you know, you had the Ryan Day back and forth stuff.

3:20That McAfee, whatever you got to say about Blue Holtz, he's a legend. And so we say RIP to Blue Holtz Nevada. Yeah, you know, I liked Blue Holtz. I liked Blue Holtz. I did too. He was a guilty pleasure of mine and, you know, back to I remember when when when he got fired and they were looking for a placement and I was just praying it was going to be Holtz. And he'd been so good at Arkansas and, you know, just I thought he would just be perfect for our state and he just didn't want to replace the legend. He just thought that was going to be too hard, which I totally get. And yeah, in the later years, you know, he got a little goofy and it's kind of, you know, we live in the goofy era, you know, we live in this goofy or social media where the goofy you are the more attention you get. And it in all attention is good. There's no such thing as bad attention anymore. And I think he kind of took that to heart and kind of went over the top of some of this stuff. But I like Blue Holtz. Rest in peach coach. And I always thought he was just an absolutely fantastic college coach and an integrate interview and a guy that really answered interesting things to say.

4:29Yeah, he was an excellent interview. I mean, he was a troll. Blue Holtz was a troll. And he was funny. Like he had me crack it up like at times. Now, remember y'all, he used to go hard for a house state with Mark May. Remember him and Mark May show and Mark May would do his usual house state hate. And here come Blue Holtz hitting him with bars for a house state. I don't, I don't, I'm never forget that. That was always great. And yeah, I wonder what Pat McAfee is going to do on his show now with the late Blue Holtz. Will they continue that skit? I mean, it was such a hit for them. You know what I'm saying? What do you do now? But yeah, Blue Holtz, rest in peace, man. I mean, he's college football. All my life. Blue Holtz. He's been around. He's been a staple. So definitely a tough loss for the college football today, Nevada. Yeah, no doubt. And you know, it's, it's one of those things where you just, it reminds you to how deep the

5:34Ohio State coaching tree is with you look at that 1968 staff and look at all the guys on that, that staff and all the guys that are coming through the years. And you know, that's why Ohio State's top of the, the football, you know, certainly top football world now and has been there for a long time. And it's just great part of the tradition of Ohio State is these great coaches that, once coach your judgments. Definitely. Let me, let me do this because you know how they on TV, they, they say, RIP to the person and they showed a picture. I got to show a picture. RIP, Blue Holtz. 1937 to 2026. There you have it. Man, lived a long life. All right. All right. So listen, let's get into this delicious nugget. We, we dined on today on Buckeye Scoop involving the 2026 defensive scheme. And Nevada, I really want you to kick it off.

6:34It's from the second wiseman. Talking about Patricia, what he learned from this one season college football. And what we're looking to implement in 2026 after really, you know, having a year to assess himself and self scout and to see what mistakes he made. And what he could have did better and things like that. Man, I thought that was an excellent nugget. Nevada, what you got? Well, yeah. I mean, Patricia obviously, you know, is a guy that is very pleased with how they did, you know, in year one, you know, historically good type of performance. But, you know, you're always looking for improvement. And, and the one thing that was notable him coming into the season last year in the one of the cracks against someone. He never coached the cause level. And, you know, college football is different than the NFL. And, you know, as, as he did kind of his end of year assessment of, you know, what, what he did well, what he could do differently, what he wants to improve upon. One of the things that that really kind of stuck out to him was the fact that he didn't feel like they pressured enough last year.

7:37They spent too much time on simulated pressures and, you know, given the appearance of pressure and doing a really good job of disguising their intentions there. But in college football, you're less apt to get burnt by bringing pressure than you are in the NFL because the NFL, you get burned over the top. And you also get burned a lot. Because with the screen game a lot, in college football, not so much. So I think for Ohio State, you know, one of the things they want to do in 2026 is they want to bring more pressure. And they want to, they want to try to, you know, create more turnovers and they want to create more negative plays. Because, you know, last year we, you know, for a defense that was as good as we were, we didn't create a lot of turnovers. You know, I'm saying you look at a turnover ranking was it wasn't, you know, top of the thing like like we weren't yards and, you know, possessions and points and things like that. So I think he's just looking to kind of fine tune that. One of the use that's kind of the overall strategy and one of the tactics that they're going to be doing to kind of implement that is implementing kind of a standup defense event scheme.

8:45And, you know, people say why stand up defensive and what, you know, what's the difference in your stand up defensive end and I, you know, hand in the dirt defensive end. And the idea is that, you know, while what you give up is a little stoutness against the run because clearly it's easier to take on a blocker when you've hit your hand in the dirt. If you're looking to attack, you know, going forward, attack going back, attack laterally, describe the better attack angles to the quarterback, it's a heck of a lot easier to stand it up. So I think those are the couple of things that you're going to be seeing from all how state is, you know, an emphasis on pressure and, you know, a increased relevance of stand up defensive ends as they kind of go into the 2026 season with with a lot of new new bodies. They feel like they can get stuff going from the inside with Edward Custin with James Smith with John Walker, they can get, you know, some push from the inside, but from the outside. I think you're going to look at those stand up defensive ends and more jailhouse break type of pressures to kind of put the heat on the quarterback.

9:50So thought it was interesting and certainly something that's going to be a slight change from for 2026 and the continued evolution for the Ohio State Bucket defense. Yeah, I'm glad you brought up the stand up. It was in my notes, actually. I had a buddy of mine who reached out and said, Hey, like, did you hear Patricia's last comment on his interview with a good morning football. And he mentioned he was talking to the guy about his son. He said he was his new thing of stand up defensive ends. So he hit me up and said, do you think we're moving to a three four now. And I went back and listen to the comment. I said, first of all, no, I don't think we're going to fundamentally change from a four three to a three four. We've been four three, you know, four to five, you know, base defense for years. I don't see that changing. However, you can still have stand up defensive ends and different looks and different packages with your four three still being the base. You don't have to change the three four now understanding the three four, you know, it's, it's complimentary to what you like to do in the three four.

10:53You know, with the outside linebacker and are being able to do things fluidly schematically from a three four standpoint with a stand up defensive end. I get that. But that doesn't mean you have to fundamentally change from a four three. So I don't see that happening before even go on. I got more to say. But do you agree Nevada that we're not changing to a three four just based off of that. Correct. No, I absolutely do not believe that we're changing from, you know, but I think we're going to be doing things differently. I think they are going to try to attack differently, but it will not be, it will not be a three four. It will still be a traditional four three. Because you may have one guy with this hand in there don't want one end and one guy stand up on the other side too, you know what I'm saying. So like there's a lot of different variations of that, but I think our base is going to be four three for sure. Yeah, and I mean, she even think back when chase young was here, we were doing some funky things on a pre snap. We had guys, we had like three guys, three or four guys standing and roaming the line. You know what I mean? Like, which was confusing was against Penn State.

11:55And so it wasn't only gets Penn State. I think we did it against a couple teams. The point is, there's things you can do to really diversify your front without changing fundamentally what your base is. And that's kind of the point I wanted to bring home. Did you want to say something else? No, no, I think that I think that's I think that spot on and you know, I think for Ohio State, you know, look, you know, they did such a great job of disguising coverage. I think they're going to be trying to do more of that with this kind of delay disguise, kind of the dark looks that the Seattle sea ox have been doing. But I think that for Patricia, it's been a big deal that he realizes that, hey, it's one thing to bring, you know, to bring pressure. 20% 30% time, but you can probably get away with it at a higher to clip in the in the college football. Then you can't the NFL and he's got to adjust his game to reflect that. Yeah, and I'm looking at the nugget again. You know what? When I was reading this Nevada, you know what got me excited. Hey there, it's Ryan Seacrest for Safeway cold weather can wreak havoc on your skin. You don't want to miss out on this month's great savings on all your favorite skincare essentials.

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15:10First of all, Andrew Euston is really good. I think Andrew Euston is going to have, this is just my opinion. Remember, Tyler Lee Williams, we heard about him having flashes, but he wasn't quite full-go because he couldn't, his conditioning wasn't right. His mindset wasn't right early coming in to be able to really be consistent with his conditioning, hence why he couldn't really be as consistent on the field. But we had heard he was flashing. Andrew Euston, I think he's a great kid, has some rough spots going here and there coming in. I think he's about to break out and have his tie leak break out here. Like, what this dude is a dog. Consistency is what we're going to see this year, but James Smith and John Walker, both of them are very good. Like, imagine them on the line together with Kenyatta. Like, I'm just imagining that lineup in the front four. To me, I think that's pretty lethal, man. Are you as excited? And that's not all we have, but that combination to me, I think, could be really brutal, especially with what Matt Patricia does.

16:18Because as you see in the nugget, they're very versatile. Look at their tape. They can all do a lot of different things. So Nevada, what's your thoughts on that? Well, I think, you know, I think we're probably not as excited about Kenyatta Jackson as we should be, you know what I'm saying? I think that the him coming back was a really big deal. That was a really, that was a really big deal. Because he was a good player last year, but he, you know, kind of like Caden Curry was a good player in 2024. But then he became a great player in 2025. I really think Kenyatta Jackson is going to take us as a similar trajectory and can make a similar impact. You know, I think, you know, to have two, because I look at that as like having two starters back because anyway, they look at it, evercuse him is a starting capability. You know what I'm saying? He's a starter. And when you get that and Kenyatta now, it's like you've got two or four guys back. And I think you've got, you know, potential to have a really good defensive line. And yeah, no, I'm excited about Kenyatta Jackson. John Walker, John Walker's a guy that wanted to come to Ohio State in the beginning, you know, had some issues with homesickness or whatever it was, you know, couldn't, you know, make the thing work.

17:26But, you know, he really, I mean, he's a load. He's a, he's a big two. Everybody in talk to us like, that's a big man down there down their thing. You know, Ohio State doesn't, you know, other teams have got good defensive linemen as well. And he's certainly one of those guys that looks the part. And, and certainly I expect him to have a nice impact on Ohio State in 20.6. And let me go over the, the death chart for the defensive line, just to kind of give people a visual of what we're working with. So you got Kenyatta Jackson starter, both, both Ackinson and Corey Wilder. Now listen, let's go back to both Ackinson real quick. So both Ackinson did not make the impact that we were hoping he would make last year. We saw him flash at times. It was times where he did make plays like, okay, that was a good play. But it wasn't like, oh, he's an impact clear. He was really good at North Carolina. And we know that the transition from North Carolina with his physicality, his strength, I should say, had, you know, needed to increase.

18:28We got a whole season and a whole off season for both Ackinson to really step up. Because I think Nevada, and I'll park right here before I keep going, I want to keep going through the death chart. But how much of thoughts? I have not given up on both Ackinson. I think he still has a chance to be a very good contributor in this, in this too deep. What do you think about both? I completely agree. I completely, I mean, he just needed to get stronger. You know what? He's bigger and stronger this year than he was last year. And you know, he's always been bendy. He's always had a nice first off the line. Great kid. Oh, how state believes in him. You know, we've talked about this before. If they didn't, they would have run him off. He's around for a reason. And again, if you look at what he's, you know, I can't hate to keep going back to Caden Curry, but it's a very recent example of a guy that. Had been okay, and then went from okay to wow, really, really freaking good. I mean, Boyackinson certainly has had more success at the Caden Curry did come in the last year.

19:30So, you know, why, why not? Why couldn't you make a jump? Why couldn't he be an impact player? He's a guy that certainly could. You could be a favorable surprise for the black guys this year. Definitely. So yeah, we agree on that real quick. Chose and what's up, homie? This is a young lady. I went to church with years ago, like old school. I know I just randomly just brought that out, but it's great to see you. Just wanted to shout you out real quick. All right, let's get back to this depth chart. So the other names here, because again, when you think about Nevada, people kind of forget guys. If they don't see them, they forget them. All right. Now, I mentioned Cory Wilder. That's the incoming freshman that everyone's raven about already turning heads. I think he's going to work his way into the lineup on third down and rush the passer. I think they're he's going to earn plan time. But on the flip side, you got Zion Grady.

20:30Zion Grady made plays last year. He flashed and looked good as a true freshman. And so, and I know Larry Johnson loves him. And so I'm excited about Zion Grady. And then you got quay. I always want to call him quay. Because it's spelled to you a quay or saw actually quay or saw flows better than quay or saw, but it's not my name. So let me stop. But anyway, another kid from Alabama, who has some talent, who watch film. James Smith is is probably the higher the, the, how can I put it, the shore bet, the more shore of a bet to make an impact. But quay has talent. And then you got epi epi K. Great kid. I had the pleasure of helping Devon interview him last year. Just great kid, great family and talented. And so he actually has a, I mean, if you, if you look at him quickly, he kind of looks like a JT to him a low out there with the hair out the helmet and even the size and everything.

21:32But, um, but yeah, that's for the defensive ends. I wanted to call them out. What do you think about that depth right there at defensive end, Nevada? Yeah, well, I think it's, you know, you know, it's, it's some of its young, some of its untested, some of its new, you know, we got, but it's, it's a lot of guys. And I think we're going to find out a lot in spring ball. And I, I, I see I, I'm of the opinion that if we utilize these guys correctly, like everybody doesn't need to be Will Smith or everybody doesn't need to be chasing under the bosie. I think if you use guys, you know, correctly, I mean, heck, I feel like CJ Hicks could have been of great impact on us that had he's hung around. You know, our, our release, I thought it was under utilized in terms of, you know, you know, potentially, you're potentially great past rush or not. So I think you can get guys and you can get, you know, past rush in a lot of different ways. Um, there's probably some other linebackers that we haven't even talked about that could slide down that defensive end position and, and provide, you know, you're right. You're right. Riley Pettit. You can stand Riley Pettit John on the outside. And I don't, I don't doubt that he can do good things. So I think there's a lot of different ways that you can do it.

22:38I think there's a lot of good things that you can do with the defensive end position. But the last few recruiting classes that Larry Johnson have been in have been top notch. We've gotten you and lots of them. So it's been, it's not only been quality. It's been quantity as well. And I just have no doubt that they're going to, they're going to step up. There's a wide open opportunity for some guys to step up in spring ball. And I think we'll see it in spring. I think I think these guys will make it an immediate impact and it'll be noticeable. Yep. And then of course the nugget also talks about rolling linebackers up to the edge to bring pressure. And so I love that because guys like Petty John are big and fast and then Alfred, don't sleep on Alfred. Like to me, Alfred reminds me of Jerome Baker. This as far as his speed, his size, the way he moves, it reminds me of Jerome Baker. And so we got some talent. And I'm not even mentioning to Wisconsin Ali Egro, who's a really good season's linebacker. I mean, like he's approving good linebacker in the big 10 from Wisconsin.

23:46And then of course, Peyton Pierce. And you know, we got guys, they just need to step up and produce. But let me get to these dns. And so I'm sorry, the detacles. So I mentioned James Smith, Ezra Houston, Jason Moore. We've been talking about him. And the fact that he's still here is proof that they still believe in him. And then of course, John Walker mentioned him. Will Smith Jr. just mentioned in the manual roughen who Devon brought up the other day. And I was like, oh, yeah, I kind of forgot about him. Is it Alabama? Yeah, he's for Alabama. Like a big boy. I mean, I think we got some good young talent and some good experience talent. I think this D line can be really good. Because again, Will Smith Jr. made some plays last year when he had opportunities. So we got guys that are either going to really show why they should be a first round pick like Kenyatta Jackson, Andrew Houston, even James Smith.

24:48And they'll be got some guys who are looking to make a move to say, hey, I belong in this too deep. Or you need to put me in critical moments on third down to get to the quarterback, because I'm that impactful type kids. And so very curious. I just wanted to go through the defensive line because that nugget got me excited about the combinations of these kids that were bringing it from the portal. And that what we got coming back and Kenyatta Jackson, Nevada. Hey there. It's Ryan Seacrest for Safeway cold weather can wreak havoc on your skin. You don't want to miss out on this month's great savings on all your favorite skincare essentials. Now through March 31st earn four times points when you purchase participating skincare items like dub soap, dub body wash, dub beauty bar, soft soap body wash and Irish spring body wash points can be redeemed later for discounts on groceries or gas off her ends March 31st restrictions apply promotions may vary visit Safeway dot com for more details. Tyler Reddick here from 2311 racing another checkered flag for the books time to celebrate with chamba jump in at chamba casino dot com let's chamba.

25:57No purchase necessary BTW crew boy were prohibited by law C T and C 21 plus sponsored by chamba casino. Well, yeah, and then there's just like there's a lot of what you need to create pressure and modern football in 2026 is you need to describe your scheme and you need athleticism and that's the one thing if we've learned anything from the combine for everything else is going on our house. We have athleticism the burn and that's why I kid like tarvis offered you know I mean he's going to have a chance you know because he's so athletic so he's so fast he's so explosive that you know I think that in the in the right scheme with the Patricia doing the right types of things. You know I think we can we can do it I don't think you you don't just need to have the great past pressure moves now we're blessed because you've got a guy like Carter Wilder who's got the great past pressure moves who's got you know I mean he could be elite simply on his own but you surround him with good scheme on top of that yeah I mean I think you know for I can tell you that Patricia is telling people he does not believe there's going to be a big fall off of this defense in 2026 and you know I remember last year.

27:06I would have I would have bet anything it's only said hey is the defense game statistically better than twenty twenty four I would have said not a chance in heck you heard him say and so I would have bet against that heavily and I would I would have lost you know because they actually improve they improve by every metric in twenty twenty five or twenty two more now I'm not saying they're going to improve again over nine point three points again or whatever the heck it was but he doesn't believe that the fall off needs to be precipitous he really likes the young talent he's excited about that. The guys in room and he's really excited about the scheme that they're going to be presenting so that that that makes me very excited. Me too Mark Swick posting a comment anyone else besides me and Dev excited to see the kicker no I'm excited Nevada I want to see in the spring game you know how we stop okay stop now kick it again or whatever I want to see him go out there and just effortlessly nail 50 yard field goes like with with 10 yards of spare you know I'm saying just one knows like this confidence like man we got us one that's what I want to see because we just haven't been confident in our kicking game it seems like for years in Nevada.

28:16Yeah no I mean what I can say this year is we probably have more competition at the kicker spot that we've got more viable options for both place kickers and for punters that we've ever had at Ohio State you know typically you have like the one guy maybe a young guy behind them but we've got three capable kickers and obviously the beta guy is you know he's he's got the swagger he seems to have the inside track is kicking something you can do year around you can kind of tell who's got the live leg and things like that but yeah I mean we'll we'll see but you know I like the fact that there's an increased emphasis on special teams at Ohio State but you know by virtue of the fact that they've actually hired a special teams coach they've gone out and you know in the portals some of our big exactly not you know first acquisitions or special teams players down to long snappers and thing you know I'm saying so we're really going after special teams you know in earnest and we'll see if it pays off I I've always maintained that not paying attention to special teams results in your special teams not being special and I think

29:26now we're putting the emphasis in we've got the coaches there we've got the emphasis on it now let's see if we can notice the difference I think we will but but a check to be seen. Yep and once again the natural it seems almost impossible to be better through your straight like I'm highlighting this comment because Nevada is so true like to me it would have been perfectly logical and reasonable to say because I know what I said I said we're still going to be good we're not going to be as good but we're still going to be good and statistically we were better or just as good so with this year again with Matt Patricia the rocket scientists and the talent we have and what we brought in it's just it's hard for me to bet against this defense still not being in the same spot but we'll see but I'm regardless this defense will be it will be very good I have no doubt Nevada well I mean when you look at the trajectory from where we were in 2022 you know defensively you know 2023 2024 2025 yeah I'm leaving strong

30:35some unbelievable seasons together and you know in today's football with the transfer pour one guys leaving and guys it you know saying two different coordinators I mean we've had a lot of you know different changes but we we've maintained excellence on the defense the start of the ball and yeah I just I don't see a way we can improve on what we did last year but I'll say I didn't see a way we can improve a lot now I'm not again I don't want to get caught in Nevada said we're going to be better in defense tonight I'm not saying that but I don't think we're going to be bad I don't think we're going to we got some we got some things I don't think we're going to be bad now we'll we'll we'll see I know we've got a lot of talented guys to a you know a lot of high NFL draft picks to replace but a lot of young talent a lot of guys in the portal so let's put it we're over on defense this year when we were last year you know we're going to we're going to be a more veteran team now will that you equate to good play yeah we'll find out I mean I would say even if we're top 10 even if to me even if we're top 10 I still think that's a phenomenal

31:41losing all the guys we've lost back to back years and we're still a top 10 defense like to me that's like yo that's excellent do you feel like that's too low of a bar or is that fair no I think it's the right bar I think top 10's the the right thing I think you know what I thought last year frankly if we stayed top 20 it would have been good you know I mean but I think this year top 10 would just the just the sheer number of kids we got in the portal and you know we need to get you know we're going to need to get lucky on some of those portal kids to get better than that and we're going to get unlucky on some of those portal kids to be worse than that so I think that's going to be the test is going to be our how are are these kids are some of these kids are they back from injury are they they've been you know the house the level of competition how how can they do but it's it's certainly going to be fun to watch because we're we are we're an old team we're veteran team and I love having in college football I love having an older team definitely and we've seen that over

32:41the years even last year obviously and then of course you know with us I mean it's it matters it matters so I wanted to ask you something before we get to these super chats because I was thinking about this and the NFL combine you know the people gushing over sunny styles they kept saying and he was a green dot and he was a green dot my question is who is going to be the green dot on defense this year and I was going back and forth about it because you got and I know Leronitis once he cross trains all his linebackers I mean there can be a guy that you think might not be a mic but he's he's he's a mic because of how he's handling a position so obviously Peyton Pierce has been making noise in the all season we got that recent nugget and then sunny styles confirmed it by shouting Peyton Pierce out but also don't sleep on Ali Edgar from Wisconsin as a guy that can come in as a leader petty John of course who do you think is the leader in the clubhouse for the

33:43green dot Nevada I think Peyton Pierce has got to be the leader in the clubhouse you know I think he's a guy you know I'd love to come up with another name as somebody like wow I never heard that but I think Peyton Pierce really if that's the guy they let's put this that's the guy they want it to be it's his job to lose they want him to be the guy and there was a reason they were putting him out that are you know so much last year um but you know and I think for a guy like Ali Edgar it's you've got to learn the whole defense you know I'm saying and that's it's a little tougher for a guy coming in that I got like Peyton Pierce who's you know been there and you know you know been around but if anybody could do it Christian leader was a smart kid really really smart kid can do it but I would I would handy cap it at probably Peyton Pierce as the at the pole position I put Riley Petagion right behind that I put Christian leg right behind that so that that's my that's my three man board yeah that makes sense learning the defense that's very important because I do think it like Ali Edgar I think I'm saying I write has the

34:45leadership and experience coming from Wisconsin but that's coming from Wisconsin Peyton Pierce has been here knows the system definitely I can see him stepping into that role and so I think that's a great pick for sure um but yep let's uh let's get on these super chats uh stilly matt thanks for the one and I RIP Lou Holtz book our nation mourns yep yep um I've said a lot already but I'll reiterate you know I rock with Lou Holtz man I rock with Lou Holtz he was funny he was brilliant um he was a great coach and he was a buckeye um despite you know his little late years you know trolling he was a buckeye y'all and he rocked with us especially with that uh that clown mark main Nevada yeah now he used to uh yeah you're you're exactly ready I mean he used to chill for a Ohio State all the time against Mark because that was their stick Mark man was the anti-higher state guy he was so just I I always was amused when he would go off on this toughness thing and Ryan Day

35:52and because I I knew it was a stick I agree with you he was he was a master trope he was a troll before trolling was a thing and you go back and read some of his stuff from the 70s I mean he was just he was a brilliant guy and um yeah you know I I I'm sad that he's gone I I know he's older I know it was not unexpected but yeah um he he reminds me of a time back there when by like there was just yeah everything in my life was college football and Lou Holtz was about as good as it gets when it comes to coach and yep he's I mean again he's been around my entire college life Nevada like memories from a little kid Lou Holtz was always there yeah I mean just think about I mean I'm thinking about the the Notre Dame game with Regis Filman the classic Terry Glenn touchdown as he's getting interviewed I mean you see Lou Holtz pacing looking sad or or just whatever like I just memories of college football start with Lou Holtz all the way through

36:53well there was a famous game and I I think I hope I'm not misrearming this because I have any time to go to the Google machine and refresh my memory but I pretty sure he was coaching Arkansas and they were playing like Oklahoma and the Orange Bowl and there was a disciplinary issue and he'd like suspended like his three top players for the game and everybody's like oh they're they're done they're toast you know and then they went up and upset them in the Orange one I have to see if I maybe be completely butchering this and in terms of but I were that's what I remember and thinking wow that was that I just remember him being like he was a great coach I'm using the national championship winning coach and that you know it's there's not a lot of guys that can do that and then he and he did it so I he's got my eternal respect yep absolutely all right still he met once again thanks for the 199 shout out be Moses for hooking up Patrick Green first of all once again Patrick our condolences Patrick lost his mother

37:58and so he's doing something great what which I thought I didn't get a chance to tell you Patrick when we were talking you know he's passing out buck eyes in the funeral looks like we lost Nevada we'll get him back in a second and I thought that was great I thought that was a great idea and so he with Stilly Matt's talking about as he reached out to me to see if I could get him some buck eyes and listen remember weeks ago actually months ago I went to Brian Fogel's crib y'all all know Brian Fogel okay Brian Fogel was a great buckeye great dude he's the one that you see all over the internet and all over the facility he makes the little you know like I don't want to say figurines but he makes all the players and coaches like their own figurine of themselves like he does a great job he makes buckeye necklaces and he's just a great dude and he allowed me in my son of tour his crib because it's a bit it's basically in a high state shrine one of the most remarkable

38:58things I've ever seen as far as all the memorabilia he has and I remember he showed me this big bag of buckeye's he had and so when Patrick asked about that I thought about that and I was like yo let me hit up Brian so really shout out to Brian Fogel for coming through with the hookup when the buckeye's for real I was just the guy that hit him up you feel me so it just wanted to kind of tell the backstory about that but either way God bless you Patrick and your family prayers and condolences for you this weekend as you look to say goodbye to your mother Nevada you got anything yeah God bless you man prayers for you and always tough but but prayers just don't worry we're all around and we're all here for you yeah definitely absolutely man buckeye scoop as a family so you know it's the least that we can do you know to look out for each other so real quick we're about to hop off here we know the buckeye basketball team is playing right now I got my my jersey got my my b-moses jersey you know what I'm saying and I don't even know

40:07let me see what the score is Nevada because I told Nevada before it's 12 to 9 on how state with 1226 11 to 1st half I was telling Nevada they stormed the court they had an emotional win against number 8 Purdue which really put them in a projected tournament and I'm just hoping they didn't go on the road and just get too comfortable and and not play well close game right now so hopefully they can pull it out and and get this win Penn State be Iowa Penn State is a scrappy team that will play you close and they're at home so I know this is not an easy game although the record is not great so I'm hoping they they pull it out Nevada and then finish strong I might take my son to the Indiana game at the shot Saturday we'll see last home game Bruce Thornton's um senior day all that but just want them to finish man get in this tournament you're right there handle business Nevada any last words yeah no they got they got to win tonight we'll we'll all be

41:08watching Rudamon and and I just want to shout out me for having a great memory it was the 78 Orange Bowl Arkansas suspended Ben Cowan's Donnie Bobo and Michael Forrest are big three-star they were 24 point underdogs to Oklahoma and they won 31 to 6 wow yeah 24 point dogs are win 20 31 to 6 I got to tell you guys you're without a pre-top play that that just that stayed with that always was like man that's a heck of a coaching job though by by blue hole so yeah people remember that the kind of the clowny guy and everything at the I remember that the great coach of the cause level we could get his guys to uh to rise up hopefully like the black eyes rise up tonight and win and win and basketball yep that is the whole man handle business do it for Bruce do it for Bruce um but yeah listen listen always a pleasure always a pleasure to come before you guys and and do what we love talk about our buck eyes and you know so I don't take it for

42:11granted but listen until next time we will see y'all then oh dev is going at 8.30 pm he's doing a show at 8.30 pm make sure you check him out which isn't about 40 minutes so time to chill get a sandwich relax whatever and then meet him at 8.30 all right until then we will see y'all next time go bucks and beat Penn State peace you you you hey there it's Ryan C. Crest for safe way are you looking for a refresh this spring make sure you

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