OSU Insider-Buzz Updates Heading Into Spring Ball! Buckeye BBall Team Tournament Bound

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1:00You're having a good time, you're out drinking with the boys, now it's time to pay the tab. $11,352.47, wait, what? Well there are court costs, attorney fees, higher insurance costs, damage to your car, do you why fines? Not to mention the damage to your social life, plan a sober ride or pay the price. Getting and driving costs more than your drinks, it could cost a life. Learn more at What'sTheDamage.org, brought to you by Virginia D.M.V. What's up everybody? Happy Friday, evening, it was a glorious day here in Columbus, man, it was like 70-something, still a little wet from the flooding of the rain in the past couple of days, but I'll take that over our fifth or a sixth snow here in the Columbus area for those who don't

2:01know. Anyway, do me a favor, hit that like button. If you have not subscribed, please consider subscribing. We're getting closer, I should say, to our goal of 40,000 subscribers, little by little, we appreciate you for subscribing. So, for you podcast folks who don't always rock with YouTube, Apple, Apple people go to Apple Podcast, save as their download is there, and spreeker.com, for you non-Apple folks like me, that's where you want to go to those platforms, we're going to be talking about some good, delicious nuggets from the scoop board, some buzz and updates, heading into spring balls, spring balls right around the corner, y'all, it's the 10th, I believe, which is Tuesday, that's close. So we're going to have a lot to talk about and observe, and then of course we're going to ask, we're asking a question of the other B, the B ball buck eyes, see I'm rocking to Jersey to extra clean Jim Jackson era grade joint, are they going to make the tournament?

3:02We're going to talk about it, there's still some questions and confusion, but we're going to talk about it. Also, remember when you send us wonderful super chats, helps to go towards the pay it forward, which is our military and our first responders, we're going to look out for them because they always look out for us, Nevada, what's up brother, how are you feeling on this Friday evening? We're on your Chris Gent Jersey today, man, I'm liking that, Chris was one of my all-time favorite players and then he, he, the game against that, remember we were putting that cheating Michigan team and, and he missed that little, little baseline thing right at the, I think that's right, my mind's not portraying me right. I love me some Chris Chanton boy, Michigan, Michigan really has, they've been cheating for a while and just about everything, long time, long time, they've taken it to a new level now, but yeah, the cheating Wolverines kept us out, but not that they can't keep us out this year. We're going in and I'm telling you, we're a hot team right now and we're always looking

4:03for around this time of year as a team, you need to have a couple of digs that can defend seven footers and we have that, we have a great shooting, you know, we're shooting really well right now and you want to have a veteran point guard and we've got that, so like we've got kind of the pieces to make a little mini runner, maybe shots and people, so I'm excited for, for March Madison and what spring balls five days away or Tuesday or four days away or whatever it is, so I mean, I'm like the off season, the off season is officially over with the start of spring ball, so I am, color me excited, ma'am. Definitely, we're definitely going to get back much more into Buckeye basketball and a little bit, we're going to start off with the spring football stuff, I got a lot to say about both, but yes, it's the 10th, so that's this upcoming, let me, let me count. Today's the sixth, seventh, eighth, ninth, yep, 10th, so it's coming up quick, y'all, and I'm excited. Can you believe that, Nevada? I mean, it just felt like we just like day, man, you know, lost in Miami and boom, it's

5:08spring. And so I'm super excited, like I said, the weather here in Columbus was lovely today and I'm hoping the spring game will be the same, but also before we get really get into it, wanted to shout out Patrick Green, as we mentioned the other day, condolences, you know, to him and his family, his mother passed, he's here in the city for the funeral. I was able to link him up with Brian Fogel to get the Buckeye's to pass out and he sent me some pictures, Nevada, he got a chance. Did you ever, did you ever see the video posted of the tour that I took in Brian's, in Brian's crib? Have you ever seen it? You did. Okay. So he got, Patrick got the tour and, you know, after every tour is a, you take a picture in his living room around all this stuff and he got that picture. I thought that was dope. Man, I just thought you were going to drop by and grab the Buckeye's and bang out, but I'm glad you got the going there because it's definitely a sight to see in Nevada.

6:10Yeah. That sounds, I mean, like, sounds great and yeah, this is a tough times don't last, tough people do and, and glad to see things, things working on the way that they're working out. Absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely. All right. So, um, yeah, let's get into this great nugget from the scoop board. All right. It's talking about the, the buzz and, you know, a lot of good intel head into the spring and I wanted you to kind of kick it off. I got some, some things I wanted to touch on. I got excited about one particular item, not because it's just so earth shattering. I just thought it was dope. What, what's your thoughts on the, uh, the nugget from the helping technician about some things, Arthur Smith and Julian Sanduho, Ryan Day, you know, uh, some players highlighted. What's your initial thoughts on that nugget in Nevada? Well, it's just going to, it's really going to help Ryan Day this year in more ways than

7:11anybody will ever imagine having Arthur Smith as his offensive coordinator and, you know, having a guy that arguably knows as much or more about offense than you do. You know, certainly is it, is stands and start contrast to where he was last year in 2025. And, you know, Arthur Smith has already come in, uh, a couple of things that I noted, it was a bunch in there, but there's a couple of things that I'll highlight. Maybe it wasn't saying maybe they're not, but one was, you know, Arthur Smith now giving Julian Sand the, the ability to change protections up front. And he didn't have, um, last year and, and, you know, part of that's, you know, his inexperience, part of that is Brian Hartlein's inexperience, but he was not able to slide protections, um, to where he thought your pressure was going to be coming from. And now, um, they, they, you know, Arthur Smith's already come in and said, look, we're going to do this. And this is going to be one of the early installs in terms of the strengths. That's what they will expect to see, uh, you know, throughout 2026 football, um, obviously

8:15Arthur Smith, a big offensive line guy, uh, cares a great deal about what happens in that room with those guys. And obviously realizes what an integral part that is to offensive line success. And I just think it's going to be a night and day difference, you know, on the offensive line, how they protect, you know, how we attack the other defenses, you know, up front with our winning game. Um, so I think it's, it's going to be a complete change in terms of offense. There's not change of philosophy, but a change in terms of execution in 2026 and 20 versus 2025. And, um, the second thing was, you know, there was like a little saying that I thought was, was great, which is, uh, when in doubt put four in the route. And, um, you know, in the last year, they had a couple of times where they would run and they'd run two man routes or they'd run three man routes. And what, what they're finding is when you run four man routes, it, and one of those four men is JJ Smith. It puts just so much pressure on the defense, um, to cover, like they, they may be able

9:19to cover move. It's a two man route. They may be able to cover into three men route because they can, they can bracket them. But when it's a four man route, they really can't do that. And I think Arthur Smith has identified that right away saying, look, I know this puts some of our pressures on our guys up front, but I think we can handle it. I believe our quarterbacks mobile enough to be able to move around. I think offensive lines be enough to block them up, but we're going to be putting four guys in route with regularity. And that is another change from last year's offense. That's another thing that will definitely stress out opposing defenses. And, you know, look, we're trying to run the offense in 2026 through Julian saying last year, we were trying to let it around him because he was the freshman hadn't played before. This year, he's the centerpiece. He's the trigger man that are running everything through Julian. And I'm excited to see you, you know, again, spring football starts Tuesday, you know, four days away. Uh, we're all going to get a chance to see it here relatively shortly. And I think the author Smith thing is going to be a huge ad for Ryan Day and certainly a huge ad for the Ohio State offense. I definitely agree.

10:20And speaking of ad, we have in addition to the coaching staff, you mentioned online being better. Well, this gentleman is going to help that Mateo Camboy, Camboy, I'm not sure how to pronounce that. He worked under Arthur Smith with the Steelers and the Falcons. He's going to replace Marcus. I forget his last name, excuse me, um, the assistant who left, he's going to replace him. So remember, we can have multiple coaches, multiple assistants now. So this young man will be coming in to help out in Nevada, wanted to update the people about this. Any thoughts on this? Well, I mean, I, you know, there's a selfish part of me that was helping with that position would be filled by Mike Brewster, um, great former but guy, you know, the guy put in. But look, Arthur Smith's going to bring in his guys. This is a guy that Arthur Smith's had experience with. He's comfortable with him. He's coached under him before and he wants to bring his guy. This is Arthur Smith putting his imprint further, putting his imprint on the OSU offensive

11:25room. I have no problem with it because at the end of the day, the offense is Arthur Smith. The defense is map of Tertia's and the team is Ryan Day and that's the way that it should run. You should, those guys should be the buck stops with them and the buck stops with you. You get to pick your people and he's getting to pick it. I have no problem with it. I'm excited about it. Definitely. I agree. Bring your guy in. Bring him in. Um, but yeah, before we kind of move on to the next part to the nugget that I told you, I was excited about, um, Julian saying, um, again, it's just funny, Nevada, I, I, my iris to the street and there's still people who just are down playing and Julian saying, I just, I laughed because he went to New York. He was in New York. Was he perfect? No, he was young and he showed his youth at times towards the end of the season against two really good teams and still put up really good numbers, made some mistakes. But he was no bum by any means, but he's still learning the jump from year one to year

12:27two. Adding Arthur Smith is just like, all right, y'all can sell stock if you want. Go ahead and then you'll be quiet or you'll be acting like you never said it. You know, uh, when it time comes to eat crow, but why would you? It's okay to say Julian made some mistakes in the games, some young and experienced mistakes. He needs to get better. I believe he will, et cetera, you know what I'm saying? You don't have to just completely just, oh, well, no, what's up with Toby on St. Clear, who I'm high on, who I think has a high ceiling, I think it'd be really good. But Julian saying is still a really good college quarterback and I just think he's Nevada. I'm tripping because he was excellent last year for a first year starter. I can't even imagine how much better he's going to be this year, bro. I mean, be it's, I mean, last year at this time, people were wondering whether he was going to be the starting quarterback or whether it was going to be Lincoln Keynoles.

13:31You know what I'm saying? That was an open discussion. You know, is this guy good enough to be our starting quarterback? So then, so then he goes on 3600 passing yards, 32 touchdowns versus 80 in receptions, QB rating of 177.5, completion percentage, 77%, while also being third in the nation in yards per attempt. So like, and getting, and remember at the beginning of the year, I'm like, hey, Julian saying it's going to get invited to the Heisman ceremony in New York. That was like the wildest thing. That was like, oh, Nevada's been drinking again, Nevada, what's going on, Julian, I mean, he has a freshman eligible quarterback that invited to the Heisman ceremony. Like how many, how many times does that happen? I guarantee it's not, not been often, right? I mean, I ought to go back and, you know, hit the Google machine or the rock machine or whatever, but I have an a freshman eligible quarterback at the Heisman ceremony. I guarantee it hasn't happened that often.

14:32I guarantee it's never happened for an Ohio State quarterback before, ever. So yeah, to say he had a good, I mean, he was exceptional last year, absolutely exceptional last year, and you're right, he's, he's only going to get better at the idea that he's going to improve over a 77 completion percentage is kind of, I mean, 77. Yeah. Yeah. People are wacky, man, but hey, that's what people do. I'm excited to see what you're doing in this. Do people do that? Or is this Ohio State thing? I mean, do Ohio State fans just have crazy expectations out of whack expectations? Or because I, because I'm telling you, like, I, you know, I follow UCLA football, I follow USC football. So I follow other programs, not the level I follow Ohio State, but I'm familiar with them. I don't remember that those people being as wacky in terms of crazy expectations, you know, fire Ryan Day, Jim Nol sucks, Chip Kelly, isn't any good.

15:33You know, I mean, this, this kind of stuff, I just, I just hear this stuff, and I'm like, I just have to shake my head. Is this Ohio State thing or is this just a crazy person thing? I think we're among the top of the food chain as far as the crazy takes. I remember Sabin always railing on fans and media at Alabama, right? Like the, remember, he used to talk about the crazy expectations. So I think we're up there in that air, but yeah, the UCLA's an even USC can't compare to the craziness here because USC and UCLA, well, UCLA's not USC. And they, they're, it's LA, you know, I'm saying, like, here, this is it, we are the pro team here. And so I think where it's a very limited group and we might honestly be the only one now, that Sabin's gone. So I just know our fan base, to me, the top, the high IQ in our fan base is great.

16:39We have the smart fans are extremely smart, but the dumb fans are extremely dumb. You're having a good time. You're out drinking with the boys. Now it's time to pay the tab 11,352 dollars and 47 cents, wait, what? Well, there are court costs, attorney fees, higher insurance costs, damage to your car, do you why fines? Not to mention the damage to your social life, plan a sober ride or pay the price, drinking and driving costs more than your drinks. It could cost a life. Learn more at what'sthedamage.org brought to you by Virginia DMV. Craving the coffee flavor you love, but without the caffeine, Kachava's got you covered with their newest coffee flavor. It's all-in-one nutrition shake delivers bold, authentic flavor, crafted from premium decaffeinated Brazilian beans. Quality nutrition shouldn't be complicated. Just two scoops of Kachava's all-in-one nutrition shake, and you've got 25 grams of protein, 6 grams of fiber, greens, and so much more.

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18:39They deserve it. Don't they? No Congress. Stop the Durban Marshall money grab for corporate megastores, paid for by the electronic payments coalition. Does that make sense? I'm trying to explain that to what I see in this fan base. We have great fans, and I think Herb, she talks about the, what is it, the 2%, I forget what you called it. Trust her, trust her, trust her, call the miserable fans. Yeah, he did. And then he should have never walked that back. He should have said, nope, that I said what I said, but no, but no, not to belabor the point. I think you're on to something. We have the largest fan base per New York Times, per whatever publication. That's the one thing. So we have a huge sample size. The minority of our fan base, the lunatic fringe, is bigger than some fan bases. So they seem like they're dictating things when they're really not because they're the vocal minority, but I got said, our upper echelon smart fans are very smart.

19:45They can bang with any fan base in the country, but it's just, we discussed some, some goofies in our fan base, man, who have unrealistic expectations, they'll try to pin it off. Like, oh, we have a standard. No, you don't. Like stop conflating that. We all have a standard. We're an excellent program, okay? But what y'all jokers is doing is just unreasonable, illogical, and just ridiculous with some of the expectations. So anyway, Nevada, you got anything on that? Well, yeah, just because I just look at like Julian Sandin, like, what more could you've asked out of a first-year starter at quarterback in Ohio State than what he did? You know what I'm saying? He should have been 78 percent. He should have thrown no interception. Like, what, you know, where does it fall in there? You know, like, I mean, he had the best freshman year of any freshman eligible quarterback in the history of college football, the highest QB rating in Ohio State football. I mean, I just, you run out of superlatives when you talk about the guy.

20:50All when he wasn't dinking and dunking down the field side is, I just, I mean, I understand that there's, everybody's, you know, I always get this, Nevada, I'm entitled to my take. And I'm like, yeah, you're entitled to your take, but if you're take stupid, I'm entitled to say it's dumb. Yeah. So replace Julian Sandin just, I mean, I just thought, I just thought even understanding and when he's gone, when he goes to NFL, like, I really hope the next guy is as good as he is because the standard is going to be really, really, really high in that quarterback room. Yup. And the last thing I'll say on this is that again, just to bring it around, we're not saying, we're not saying, you know, see what I did there? That Julian, that Julian can't improve. That's one of the first things I said. He's going to, he needs to improve Ryan Day and Arthur Smith are saying, okay, these are the areas we can improve on Julian. Here's where we're going to help you. He's going to get better. He's not a finished product.

21:51You know, can he go, can he be a little sharper with maybe some of his reads? Maybe there's things he's missed. Sure. I'm going to miss that. Could he know and have a better fill of the game or when to take off and run to move the chains? Absolutely. We've talked about that at Nazim. There's little things that he can continue to get better at, but there's notion that he's a bum and who's up next and I don't have any, any trust in him is just dumb. And that's what we're saying. So don't, don't get it twisted. That's the type of stuff we're talking about, Nevada, but on the nugget, I want to get back to this nugget. One thing, excuse me, I was, I was like, yeah, this is dope is the new tradition from Ryan Day, a gold pants ceremony. And it's going to be the day before pro day where all, you know, where everybody's back in town. I thought that was dope, you know, nice, little ceremony for the gold pants.

22:51I think we're about to start another streak. We might go 10 straight this time. What do we do last time eight, eight or nine straight without cheating? Yeah. I think we're about to start a new streak and this is a great ceremony to start their streak, Nevada. Yeah. Now, I love the fact that Ryan Day is comfortable enough in his own skin to change some of the traditions, to add to some of the, the gold pants aren't actually right. I think that that should be a thing. It should be, you know, during the time when, you know, when guys are going to be there, and you're in a position to get it and, um, no, I, I love it. I love it. But I do think it says stuff about Ryan Day as a person, though, because he's not the same young inexperienced head coach that, you know, took over in 2019, trying to find his way, like you can tell now, like he's the big boss band. He's the guy that's, you know, been here, he's the, you know, one of the elder statesmen in the big 10 and in college football in general. And he's totally comfortable changing when they do, you know, the, the band thing during

23:55Michigan. You know, he's changed. You see in your tackle. I mean, he's changed a lot of things about the traditions around Ohio State, um, because he didn't feel like it was kind of appropriate to the time and recognize the change. But I like the gold pants ceremony. I know some people that are going to that and are really excited about, uh, about going and seeing that thing and, and I agree with you. I think we're about to go on a, a little, another, another run. I'm not sure when the next time Michigan's going to be able to, uh, to step up and play with us. And I think it's going to be a bet. Yeah. I definitely agree. Um, and they deserve another run, uh, up on the scoreboard for sure after everything that transpired. And then also a part of the Nuggets Caleb Downs, possibly not, you know, working out. And to me, you know, over the years, I've thought about that, you know, because some, he's like, okay, man, why don't you want to work out and show what you can do? And the question is, what's the upside to that? I mean, what is the upside to Caleb Downs working out? I mean, there's analysts who are unanimously saying that he is, I would say the most complete

25:04prospect in the draft. Some are saying the smartest, matter of fact, let me pull this up. I'm not going to play the clip. But you got, you know, a map of Trisha on interviews talking about how he's, map of Trisha would know, map of Trisha would know he's been around some smart football players. Okay. And he calls him the smartest player he's ever seen, um, you know, coming out of college. And so I would love to see Caleb Downs go and do great numbers and run the 40 and, but I'm not tripping if you don't work out, Nevada. I think he's going top 10 regardless at this point. Do you think anything has changed with that, or do you still think he's a top 10 pick? I think it's struggling with the mute button. I am not struggling anymore, man, there was a picture of Caleb Downs, um, like a body shot of Caleb Downs in the uniform in this little sequence or map of Trisha.

26:06Do you have that? Can you freeze on that? Oh, yeah, I know exactly what you're talking about. Is like, is this due to action figure like you got to be trying to let me go back. It's right here. I get stopped. We're all gold. Yeah. Well, one, yeah, he's an action figure, but two, I can't get over the fact that they don't wear knee pants. They're basically wearing shorts out there. Did you know I'm saying like that? That's like, like, like, BMO's is lined up by the pool during the summer or something like that. And they're like, I mean, in that crazy that they don't even wear knee pads or anything anymore. I thought about that. I mean, because back in our day, I mean, I had knee pads cover my knees fully, I mean, even as a, even as a receiver. Um, so I mean, I, I get it because obviously it makes you faster, but dang, it's like one shot to the knee with that helmet, you know, out, but I guess it's worth, it's worth the risk to be more fluid and fast out there in Nevada. Yeah. He, he certainly, like, yeah, he certainly looks the part, but, um, no, he's definitely

27:08going to be, um, I absolutely think it'd be a top 10 pick. I, I, there's actually a proposition bet you can make on, um, where the R. Vell Reese is going to be the second pick in the draft, because you know, Mendoza is going to be the first. And there's a lot of noise about R. Vell Reese to the jets with the second pick. And I think, I think that's what I'm going to go with as well, but yeah, it's, it's going to be a very top heavy draft for the buck guys. I mean, it's going to be a deep draft all the way around, but, um, and before guys in the top 10, very, very likely that that happens with Ohio State, um, coming off the 14 players last year. It's just a crazy, crazy draft, all, um, it really shows how good and how talented that Ohio State, you know, football team was last year. And, um, you know, it's, it's really going to set the standard for 2026, because I've said all along, but I think 2026 is really the year for our state to, you know, follow up that 2024 national championship, but boy, we were deep in 2025.

28:09We had so many really good players and, um, you know, going to miss them, but none more than Caleb Downs. And Caleb Downs was truly was, it's kind of a trade expression, the old coach on the field expression, but he really was the coach on the field, you know, he really was the guy that got everybody else in the right spot was, you know, I, he might have missed one tackle in Ohio State and maybe, you know, I mean, like he was the human eraser, maybe miss one thing. I mean, he, he just saved so many big plays, um, and I just think he's just going to be absolutely a fantastic pro, you know, for some team and hopefully it's one of the teams that I root for because he's just a fantastic athlete and fantastic player. Definitely. And real quick, uh, you mentioned Arville Reese, to me, yes, you know, a house day, uh, because I see comments like, well, of course you guys, you get all these five stars. Listen, man, Arville Reese and Kaden Curry, to me, Nevada are the poster children for the

29:11prime examples of development. Arville Reese did not come in here as a five star, can't miss, oh my God, this is the guy, the crown jewel of the class. He didn't. He was developed, Kaden Curry came in here as a, hey, you know what? I think he could be a good football player out of Indiana. He's nice. Like he was a good prospect, but not a five star, can't miss guy. And again, before last year, access to affordable credit helps me pay my employees, but I don't really need it. Infliction is killing me. Who cares? Big retailers and making record profits. That's why we support the Durban Marshall credit card bill. See? Things in credit unions help small businesses make payroll. This bill would cut the vital resources they need. While increasing Megastore profits. They deserve it. Don't they? Tell Congress, stop the Durban Marshall money grab for corporate megastores, paid for by the Electronic Payments Coalition. The Toyota Tundra and Tacoma are built to keep going, blending rugged muscle with precision

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31:15staff on his staff? His draft projection was before the 2025 season, Caden Curry, just off the head. I mean, if I'd be honest, I would have say undrafted free agent, that's my point exactly. My point exactly. And now we don't know yet, but where do you think his highest round he can go in? The highest, maybe the third. Okay. Okay. I agree. Maybe a third round picked to me, is that not amazing, Nevada, for Caden Curry to go third? He's just one of the guys that I think a football player like Caden Curry, somebody's going to get a steal there because he's a guy that's productive. And I price productivity over everything else and how many times you have to see guys come into the league, not everybody in the league is a first round draft pick. In fact, the league is consists of two different constituencies, first round picks and undrafted

32:21free agents. That's the two highest percentages of players on NFL rosters. More so than second, third, fourth, fifth, sixth time. It's first round picks and undrafted free agents. So guys can come from all over the place and make teams. And I think Caden's going to, he's going to be a later pick for some team and he's going to be super productive and people are going to be going, wow, where did this guy come from? We know. We've been saying it all, but you were the one, in fairness, I went that high end. I liked Caden a lot as a person. But I didn't think he was going to be a great player in 2025. You did. You were like, I really think Caden Curry's going to be, and he, you nailed it on that one because he was, I mean, he overachieved just about everybody's expectations, but you had that one. Nails Kudos to you on that one. Thanks. And I'll say this, the only reason about it. I was confident enough to say that is because I'm kind of crazy. I'll go back and watch games. I'm going to go back and watch the games again. Just because I'm just, I'm crazy, I'm a crazy person.

33:23But I went back and watched all of the games and I saw Caden Curry making plays. He was around the ball. He was doing things that were going unnoticed. And that's what kind of prompted me to say, I think he's about to break out. You can see it. He's right there. So, but anyway, it's wanted to make the point that Ohio State is not just pushing out five stars who don't need developed. Arville Reese is going to go from, you know, four star guy who, yeah, okay, cool, Glenn ville. Yeah, he should be good to possibly number two, almost definitely top 10. Like, come on now. Will you talk about recruiting and this program and development? Come on, man. Go standard example right there, Nevada. I just wanted to really put that out there because that's amazing to me. Well, the center for drafts going to do wonder. I mean, not that Ohio State doesn't have a high enough brand profile with recruits, but this one's really going to put a stamp on it that, you know, Ohio State is where

34:24you go if you want to become a premium talent because this, this draft will be unlike any other one in Ohio State history in terms of the number of guys taking at the top of the first round. Like I said, four in the top 10, absolutely could happen. I expect it to happen. And that's just that, that's insane that we're talking about it. Yup. And then one other thing before we move on to Buckeye basketball, Kenyatta Jackson. Kenyatta Jackson, you mentioned this yesterday. And I think it was, I don't think it's really appreciated him coming back another year. I feel like it's huge for this team, like you said, but also huge for him. I think he's going to end up going first round, Nevada. I think he's going to play himself into the first round in this defense because I think he's another guy. Sure, he may play last year. He was really good. He was one of our best linemen, but I think there's another level. And I think he's, he was knocking at the door last year. And I think he's going to explode to that next level this year and work himself into

35:24the first round. Do you agree? Well, I mean, there were games last year where he was on blockable and he had, you know, he had those games. And the idea that he could take it from there were games where he did it well to where he dominates the whole season. I don't think that's great. I mean, I think that's probably a likely outcome for him. And frankly, we need it. We need some guys to step up to be dominant players, to be leaders in that defense. And Kenyatta, yeah, I thought when he came back, I didn't think it got the fan fear that it probably should have. I think people, you know, it's like, oh, great, Kenyatta Jackson coming back. I think it's a huge thing for us at these back. And I expect them to have a massive season for us in 2026. Definitely, definitely, definitely. I agree. Excited Spring Ball starts next Tuesday, March 10th. We will be all over it per usual. Again, if you have not joined the Buckeye Scoop board, make sure you do that, especially now before Spring Ball, Buckeye Scoop dot com nuggets galore all over the place.

36:25We talk football, basketball, everything, food, whatever. We talk it. The board is always popping. Make sure you dive in, especially now before the Spring. So that's my encouragement before that. Anything else on that before you transition to Buckeye basketballs? Now, just, you know, again, if you like the podcast, you'll love the message warning. The podcast is great. And we all have fun. You know, the hour they were here, the other 23 hours were over on the Buckeye Scoop message board. And so you really want to elevate your Buckeye fan experience, join the message board off a lot of fun. The Toyota Tundra and Tacoma are built to keep going, blending rugged muscle with precision engineering, all supported by Toyota's time tested legacy of dependability. Step into a Tundra and feel the unyielding capability with the available I force max engine. Tundra puts out impressive power, torque and towing performance and the roomy high-tech cabin keeps you connected on the go. Or take a look at Tacoma made for drivers who push past the path agile, tough and relentless

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38:32Maybe USC and what was the other team, UCLA, maybe two teams that we both beat. I think that would be huge. But tomorrow is big, Nevada, Indiana at the crib, senior day, Bruce is, let me go and pull this up, Bruce is 12 points away, 12 points away from becoming the all time leading score in a holiday basketball history. That's amazing to me in this kid and I want you to weigh in on this, but I want to give this kid his props, man, because he's going to absolutely smash that tomorrow. We know this senior day, really solidify and punch your ticket to the tournament, get you a nice scene in the big 10 tournament, go out with a bang as far as playing at home. I think tomorrow is a big day for the dealer, Bruce Thornton in this program, for where they're at right now, Nevada. What you got? Yeah, no. I think it's been great. It kind of reminds you how fun it is when Ohio State basketball is playing good, because

39:37March has relevance again, because when, frankly, when we're not in the tournament, I know people love March's baddest, but when we're not in the tournament, my interest level goes down about 95 percent, so I'm excited that we have a chance to not only make the tournament, but I think we could surprise some people, because lower seats have made runs, and when you do that, like I said, have a veteran point guard, have bigs, be able to treat them all well. We can do all those things. I think we're the kind of team that could give people problems in the playoff, because we're playing so well right now. Yeah, that's a tribute to the coach, and Coach Dealer's really got the guys going, and obviously it starts with your senior point guard, and having Bruce have a chance. It's fitting that he becomes the all-time scorer. The one thing I wish, I wish we had a better home court advantage. I don't understand how a school like Ohio State can't just have the most crazy basketball

40:41environments out there. I just don't understand it. It's for me. My background is professional sports, specifically minor league sports, or minor sports you've got to get people. You've got to convince people to come to see your game, and they have to make a conscious choice to come to. I don't know how many kids you have on the campus, 50,000, or what are you going to say? You've got a captive audience of people that are always looking for something to do, and if you give them something to do, and then make it fun, and I thought that it's starting in sport event, there is absolutely no reason that Ohio State basketball shouldn't just be mayhem every night. Because I tell you, minor league baseball, we can never control whether we want to lose. In fact, our teams in Dayton lost way more than they won, but we sold out every game. You don't have to have, it doesn't need to only be about winning.

41:43Of course, winning helps, but if you make it fun, people will come out. If you make it a tradition and fun, people come out year after year. I just don't understand how we don't have a better home court advantage for Ohio State basketball. Because when it gets going, it's crazy, but it should be getting going every night and I don't know why we're not doing that. Well, we know St. John Arena was rocking. Oh my goodness. St. John Arena was that deal back in the day. It's smaller. It's a smaller venue, less capacity. And I think Ohio State saw, you know, and listen, from a business standpoint, shopping scenes arena makes a lot of sense. Concerts and events, they're making money off of that, but it's not a great arena for basketball. Now, it's a nice arena. It's very, it's a lovely facility, but as far as intimidation and rocking, it just doesn't fit the bill like the St. John Arena did. And that's just the facts. So there's that about it. I mean, I think that's the biggest thing is the venue difference, but, you know, business

42:47wins in these situations. Yeah, but, you know, and I agree with you 100%, I mean, you know, one of the biggest things that I, when I advise major league teams, one of my biggest things I say is always to cut back on seats, you know, make them group areas, do whatever you want to do, but cut. And the reason why the Boston Red Sox for such a tough ticket for so many years is because they only had 34,000 tickets, you know, I'm saying, I remember when Cleveland had, you know, Old Municipal Stadium, or what, you know, 80,000 seats, and, you know, they, they fill up like one time a year for like fourth of July, and other than that, it was like empty, you know, I'm saying, build them smaller, man, control, create demand by controlling supply. I've always believed in that. I think, I think Ohio State really missed it in St. John's, because St. John's, it's a vertical building, like when you know when you go up the top of that, man, when you either feel like the skull session or something, it's kind of scary, because you're ready to, but man, we were right on top of the court. And what a great basketball venue, and I definitely think they, they lost something when

43:47they moved from, from St. John's, so the shot, for sure. Yeah, they did know what that said. You mentioned them making a run. And it's funny because I saw a thread started on Buckeye Scoop sort of scoffing or kind of making fun at the Buckeye Scoop Twitter account for suggesting that this team can make a run. Do you think it's crazy to suggest this team could, let's say, make it to the sweet 16. What do you, do you sneer at that or, what is your, your thoughts on that? No, I don't, I don't, look, you're really going to have to, you, you, you got to win two games to make the sweet 16, two games. We just went into Penn State, I know it's Penn State, but we blew them up like 35 points, you know what I'm saying? That was a game. And that's been a place that we've struggled traditionally and have, you know, scrappy little team, you know, that, to me, is something, if we get hot, if we're shooting the ball long, we shot the ball extremely well and have been lately, if we continue to shoot well, no, no telling how far this, I mean, you know, you've seen teams like George Mason make

44:50deep runs as low seeds and think, why couldn't Ohio State do it? I think they absolutely can. They're getting hot, they're getting healthy at the right time. Hot and healthy is a really good combination going into the tournament. And I think we're a team to be, to be reckoned with for sure. Yep. And I'll say this is what we need down the stretch to balance. We saw against Purdue and Penn State, Thornton had 20, I'm just looking at points now, Thornton had 20, Mobley had 21, Byron on 14, Royal 12, Tillie 7, against Michigan State, Thornton had 32, Tillie had 10, everybody else had single digits. Now, we didn't have Royal and, and Mobley, that's a big deal. But again, Penn State, Mobley on fire, eight from nine from three, 28 points, Thornton 18, Byron on 14, Royal 14, Tillie 10, well spread out, balanced. This is how this team is going to be able to make a run. And the bench, which is not existent, they need to come in and give good minutes, play

45:51good defense, rebound, hustle and scrap. If you can't contribute points, cups, then contribute defense, contribute good solid high, high Q basketball, you know what I'm saying? So yeah, I do, I don't think it's out of the question for this team to make a run. They're playing very well right now, Mobley is, is just crazy right now. I mean, he can't miss. So listen, I'm excited. I'm excited about tomorrow. I'm excited about this team making the tournament and I'm excited for Bruce Thornton and respect the Jake Deibler, okay? Because again, you know, all the criticism, all the man, his team sucks. Here we go again. He just kept this team kept pressing, kept pressing. And now they're right there. I think it's like a 87%, 80% chance to make the tournament. They're going to be Indiana tomorrow. And I'm not, I'm not jinxing them. They're going to be, Bruce Thornton is not losing on senior day. This team is healthy.

46:51Indiana's a good team, but they're not a great team. We're going to beat them tomorrow. And we're going to punch our ticket. And I'm excited Nevada, anything on that before we go to Super Jets. Yeah, no, I agree. I just, I hope we stay hot. I hope we're getting hot. You can feel it. You can feel it around the program. It's like it's just, March Mads is just better when the Buckeyes are in it. And I just, I'm excited about March Mads for the first time in a bit. And then no small measure because Ohio State's starting to shoot the basketball. So well, hope that continues tomorrow. Same here. Still amat, things for the 199. Trick daddy, Billy D Moses, head coach of the Jesus. I like it. That's like a denarius Targaryen, you know, announcement. First, first a name, uh, with some of the andos, the unburnt, though, you know, just all the names that, uh, we're giving, but not as dope. Once again, Stilly Mack coming through. I got a question for you, that like, how, like, like, you know, the guy that wrote, like,

47:56you know, the thing, like, how does he come up with all these different, you know, because It's like, you know, because it's like, you know, and then we'll have a thing and the guy that's defending it will be Sir Arthur Dane who's known as the sword of the morning and his sword will be known as dawn and dawn was a sword that was forged from the pliers that I'm just like, where in the world does all this stuff come? I mean, it's like, okay, Bimosus came down and shot the basketball and scored two by him. Like, how can you think of nine different levels deep on that stuff, man? That's exactly what I've thought. It's amazing, the level, again, for those who don't know, we're talking about Game of Thrones, greatest show ever. There's so many layers to the storylines. There's so many different characters and layers to their individual storylines. And then of course, we're not even talking about the places, Winterfell, and all the different places

48:57that you come up with and the things that happen in these places and very distinctive to these places. It's amazing. You look at the book of the Kings Garden and he just that kind of throw away comment from John for, you know, Sir Duncan the Tall, all four pages. He must have been quite the night, Sir Jamie. You know, you're thinking, it's just a, but then that's the whole story on Sir Duncan. I mean, it's just, I mean, crazy, crazy, crazy. But anyway, you are trick, you are trick daddy Billy D. Trick daddy Billy D. I agree. I still got to do, I still got to do that edit, man, my Billy. Actually, I try to do a Billy D edit, but I didn't like the picture. I need to find a better picture. Works every time. Every time. What is it? What was it? Gold 45. Well, no, you got me thinking about anchors. That was 60, 60 percent of the time at work. Sex Panther. That's right. Stilly Matt stays for the one and nine condolences. Patrick God bless your mother.

49:57Absolutely, Patrick. Again, last week on the show, we talked about losing mothers. Anyone who's lost a mother recently or otherwise, hearts go out to you. I'm one of those people. It's a big deal, man. So I'm prayers for Patrick and his family as he's here in the city. And again, shout out to Brian Fogel. What a great guy. Brian Fogel is a great dude. He's just, you know, you can't sit out about everybody Nevada. And so he's just, he looked out for me and my son. Showed my son love when we came through. And so good dude. He hooked them up with a chain, too. Made him a custom Buckeye chain. So shout out to Brian Fogel and God bless you, Patrick. Nevada, you got anything on that? Yeah, God bless you and God bless your mom. And yeah, those are the hardest things ever. You will get through it. You'll never forget, but you can't move on, but you never forget. And it's always there with you. Absolutely. G-O-D, thanks for the five. Julian's saying it's QB1 period.

50:58Some of Buckeye nation needs to stop for real. Yep, yep. That's the thing is it can be challenging. We have some great fans. I love our fans collectively. But we got some Boyle Boy man. We got some guys and girls who are crazy. And so anyway, yeah, I feel you, G-O-D, anything Nevada? Yeah, I mean, he's QB number one in all college football, man. Forget Ohio State, I mean, he's the man. And he's going to win the Heisman next year. So better get excited about him already. Yep. Yep. All right. Let me see Mr. J. Root, thanks for the $199. These fans thought CJ was a bum. Then McCord came. Yeah, but we know it's funny Nevada. I remember that after the Minnesota game, I had fans, buddies, who wanted CJ Stroud bitched for Kyle McCord.

52:02And I was just like, just listen, man. Look, CJ Stroud got so much crap here. I've already talked about this. I'm not going to go in a long spill about it. But CJ Stroud was pretty darn good. And he had to play through the cheating scandal. He had to deal with the cheating scandal. So keep that in mind. But yeah, I mean, fans are going to fan Mr. J. Root. It's just again, like Nevada said, you said it perfectly. I'm entitled to my opinion. Yes, you are. But think, listen, everybody can have their opinion, all right? Because to me, it's just like, we can disagree. But still, I thought, you know what? I don't really agree with that. But I understand the thinking it's logical. It makes sense. I don't come to that conclusion. Some of y'all just don't be thinking. You just be talking and saying stuff without actually logically thinking it through to make sure it actually makes sense. And it's actually feasible and reasonable. Some of y'all just be talking.

53:03And that's what I push back against, Nevada. Yeah, I mean, like we've had a history of being tough on our quarter. I'm J.T. Barrett. Nobody got more views, more than J.T. Barrett. And J.T. Barrett was one of the great college quarterbacks there in CJ in recent years. So I guess we're, you know, and I just push back on the idea that, you know, and I know a lot of people really believe, they really believe that it's just, it's these high standards. They're holding the high standards that really makes Ohio State players and coaches break because, you know, we have such high standards. And it's like, man, it's a weight of expectation can bury people. And it really has affected some coaches and some players in really negative ways. And I just wish the fan base, but just torn it down just a little bit. We can still have high expectations without, you know, pilling people every time they make a single mistake. Right. It's the, it's the entitlement. It's the misguided entitlement. But it is what it is.

54:04Geo did thanks for the five. The entire QB room will be better and more prepared because Arthur Smith is our OC. When, during the St. Leaves, Kevin and St. Clair will be ready to step in being with Arthur Smith for a year. Yep, I'm excited. I got told you earlier, I'm excited about St. Clair. I think he has all the tools. I think he'll get some valuable reps this year, you know, coming in as some of these, some of these games. And so yeah, I agree. Anything on that Nevada? Yeah, I think it's gonna be really, really, really interesting to see do they go and try to get a veteran quarterback or do they try to continue to run with a kid developed here, you know what I'm saying? And I think anybody's saying that they know for sure what way that's going to go right now is just kidding themselves because they don't know. But I think that's going to be that, that's going to really speak by it. If they go with the developed quarterback another again, that's really something because that's going against the grain because everybody else is going to get in quarterback some of some of the school, everybody.

55:05And so it'll be really interesting to see what Ryan, they and Arthur Smith do. And if they do go with David and St. Clair, then they really believe because, you know, that would be the most ringing endorsement you could possibly imagine. Yeah, it's a new era, it's nothing against TSC. I mean, he is just where we find ourselves now. But I don't know, we're going to see. I think TSC is going to step up and force them to say, hey, we're going to go with you. That's my prediction. We'll see. All right, silly Matt, thanks for the 199. Shout out to the Scoot family, y'all are so awesome. Yes, yes, y'all are. I agree. Buckeye Scoot family's dope. Y'all bend dope will always be dope. Best chat in the land. God love for y'all, Nevada. Well, yeah, shout out to Steeley Matt because Steeley is a special dude. And the fact that he's always in here, winging it. And there's just don't think we don't appreciate it because we do. We notice it. We appreciate it. And we appreciate it more than he knows.

56:06We appreciate it, Matt. Thanks, buddy. Absolutely. Steeley Matt, the model of consistency and good character. Appreciate you. Geo did thanks for the five. I equate Caden Curry to Pete Warner at a certain level, mid to four star kids who got better every year. Pete Warner turned himself into a second round pick, CC a third round to me. Yeah, I like that. Yeah, Pete Warner, he definitely, I still remember him smacking at Nebraska player, at Nebraska. Do you remember that hitting Nevada? I do. Yeah, Pete was a bad man. I mean, Pete was a bad man. He went out there and did it and had terrific NFL career. And really, he was a really underrated player at Ohio State, underrated and underappreciated. I definitely don't think the fan base game is due because he was a heck of a ball player. Yeah, he was, man. And he's been doing well in NFL. All right. Geo did thanks for the two. If we make the 68, the brain,

57:07deeplet back shaking my head. So, okay. Wow. Well, we see this differently. Well, first of all, I think based off of comments from York, he didn't come out and directly say it. But based off of recent interview, it seems to me, Dealer was getting another year anyway. That's just kind of me reading tea leaves. But with that said, if we make the tournament, I mean, all I care about right now is making the tournament for Bruce Thornton and for this team. This team has won the most big 10 conference games in the last four years. But this is the most they've won, even with Holtman. So, I'm willing to give him another year and see what happens, especially if they make the tournament in Nevada. Yeah, I'm struggling with that mute button again. No, I think he's a lot to come back. If they make the tournament and you're showing improvement,

58:10I think you've got to bring him back. I mean, the only thing that I would often counter to that would be if you just had some home run higher in your hip pocket. And I don't know who that is. You know what I'm saying? But if you had a guy that they'd reached out to that said, I've all come, now's my time. I could, then you could make a move on up. But short of that, short of having the urban buyer of college basketball in your hip pocket, I think you give more time. You give Dealer more time. And I think he's certainly worthy of it. Yeah, I agree. And like I've said before, I'm not banging the table for Dealer to stay. I'm not team-dealer. He has to stay. That's my guy. I just want him to fix it. Whatever you need to do to fix the program to where we're consistent again, where we're making a tournament, competing for championships, that's what I want. If that means Dealer's gone, fine, if that means, excuse me, Dealer stays with more resources, more NIL, more intentional,

59:10than cool. Just fix it. So that's how I see it. But right now, today, I'm team Buckeye Basketball and Bruce Thornton making this tournament. That's where I'm at. So all right, let me see. G-O-D, once again, thanks for the two. Blast for me. I never watched Game of Thrones, laugh out loud, my bad. You got to watch it. And give it. Listen, every show is going to, you got to give the show a chance. I don't think it starts slow per se, but just watch it, get into it, and trust me, you'll be hooked. Nevada. Yeah, look, I was the last person to watch Game of Thrones. I didn't watch it when it was like, on, I only watched it in life after either of that. You know, but it is the best series that's ever been on television. I mean, it is. And that's come from somebody who was not a throny, but you're right, give it three, four, five episodes or whatever it is, but it's an incredible show. And it is the best show that I've ever seen in life.

1:00:14I've seen a lot, but the one that kind of let me want it more and can't wait for the movie adaptation. And I watch the night of the Seven Kingdoms every Sunday night now, and I can't wait for the house of the dragon. So it's pretty intoxicating for sure. Yep, the only one of the only other ones that compare is Breaking Bad. Breaking Bad is up there, great show. But yeah, Game of Thrones is just amazing. It's amazing. And so, yep, you gotta watch it, gotta watch it. All right, Dennis Moore, thanks for the 499. How about our Lady Bucks, big game tomorrow? Yep, they got UCLA. The one seed UCLA tomorrow, big game, they look good. They've been pretty consistent. They've been more consistent than men's. So, shout out to them. And there's another one from Donald Seals. Thanks for the two. Lady Bucks are rocking OH Nevada. I owe. Yep, definitely be, we'll be watching or checking out that score at the very least

1:01:17to see how they do. But yeah, I'll be rooting for the Lady Bucks as well, Nevada. Yeah, I need to get into them more. I haven't paid as much attention to them as I should, but I definitely need to be doing that. And I'm glad they're doing well. Definitely, absolutely. Well, listen, listen, listen, listen. Hope everyone has a great Friday night, a fantastic Saturday, Buckeyes play. And I was thinking about going to the game tomorrow and maybe I still might, I don't know, we'll see. 530 tip off at the shot against Indiana, senior day. Bruce Thornton is 12 points away from breaking the all-time record, become of the number one score in a Buckeye history. So huge game tomorrow, tournament seating implications. Tomorrow can really seal the deal and solidify a tournament, you know, spot a way better seating than anyone could think we would have had two weeks ago

1:02:20in the Big Ten tourney. And, because remember, we still got a chance to get like even up to a seven seed, depending on how everything falls out. So just to kind of leave y'all on that, this Buckeye basketball team has went from dang, man, they on the bubble, they might not make it again too. If they win tomorrow, they can really solidify some things and be in a good spot for them. And I'm very grateful for that. Any last words on that, Nevada? Yeah, now seven seed would be, I mean, look, I'll take any seed, but if somehow they slipped into a seven, then going into the sweet 16 would not be crazy at all. But just get in there, they're going to be a problem. It starts with winning tomorrow. So go win tomorrow. You should go to the game team B. Yeah, I was thinking about taking BJ to the game. He hasn't been since he was like a baby. And it's the last home game. Now, obviously, I wouldn't be on the pod tomorrow unless we went later, but I don't know. We'll see. I'm thinking about it. You think I should go? I'm really thinking about it, man.

1:03:21I think you should go. I think you should go and bring the heat, bring the enthusiasm, cheer them on the victory, and lead us into the tournament. I might have to do that, man. Let me hop on a stub hub or whatever after the show. Yeah, tick, tick, tick, tick, and tick pick, they'll have some cheap tickets, man. I can get out of that. Yeah, I'll see what's up, man. You might as well go up or even even smarter. Be, wait till about two hours before the game and get tickets on tick pick. And I'm saying, you can, you can smag some stuff and really cheat. Yeah, that's true. That's true. Because it's not like it's going to be sold out. It won't be sold out. It's not good. You'll get seats. Yeah, if this was the shoe, if you know Texas, I'll be nervous about that, but yeah. But no, that's cool. I might have to make that move, man. All right, cool. All right, listen, y'all. We love y'all. Always great rocket with y'all on this podcast. And we will see y'all next time. Go Bucks. Basketball Bucks. Be Indiana and go Bucks in general. Peace.