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OnlyLands Ep. 53: Bitcoin Beef, Gilded Age 2.0 & Caleb's Origin Story

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The crew is fully assembled this week, plus a guest appearance from Caleb, who kicks things off by casually mentioning he served legal papers to an unstable stalker at a GOP event for fifty bucks. Just a normal Thursday in Colorado. From there, the conversation takes a sharp turn into wealth, power, and money systems as the gang unpacks whether we are living through a Second Gilded Age, what Bitcoin actually is versus what people think it is, and whether Satoshi Nakamoto could be an intelligence agency. The Federal Reserve takes its usual beating. Meanwhile, a lengthy detour through Thailand's gold culture accidentally becomes one of the more interesting segments in recent memory. Caleb also gets brainstormed into potentially starting his own show, and the quartering gets publicly embarrassed by the entire internet. A chaotic, surprisingly substantive episode that proves the best conversations happen when nobody has an agenda.

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The badlands, you want to get badlands? Explain those badlands. That's a hell of a name. Well, good evening, everybody. We got a full crew tonight and a newbie kind of with Caleb. What's up, guys? What's up? Hey, trust me. How's it going? So Caleb, are you here in lieu of your mother tonight? Or is she going to be joining us as well? I'm not sure about that. I was told I'm filling in. Can you guys hear me? I don't have like a monitoring. Yeah. Yeah. Good bro. You sound good. Cool. How are you guys doing? I'm okay. I'm not right. You sound great. All right. So let's just like bust through every single person go around and let's do a vibe check. Let's see how everybody's doing. John, how was your week? I don't want to start. Well, you're the first person. You're at the top lap. It's your idea. You start. All right. So, I'm, I'm, I'm feeling very good. I'm having a good

time this week. Thank you so much for my coffee. My lovely wife. Appreciate it. In my CIA official CIA mug. I knew it. I knew it. I have a friend who works in the federal government and they've bought it for me as a joker. It's a clown. Always a clown. That's right. God, if only I was getting paid by the CIA. You know what it really, it seems like the good jobs were at USAID. Oh, yeah. Oh, 90 more. Yeah. SPLC too. Yeah. SPLC. Yeah. Have you put in an application for funding yet, John? Not yet. Still kind of Wayne's options. Don't know if I want to go to the federal agency or NGO yet. Well, I know there's a lot of money there. I heard it. Set up those, he was peeling back on the grants. Their, their funding is not quite what it used to be. Yeah, we'll see. Just get those offshore accounts set up, John. You know, I'm also, you know, looking into a few foreign countries. I see if any of those, you know, governments want to give

us some of that Jew money. I heard an interesting story. Do you remember a couple of years ago during the Obama administration when Swiss banking, the impenetrable specter of Swiss banking became penetrated. And it was no longer a safe haven for your money. And the government was forced to go after thousands of Americans who had had these unnamed numbered Swiss bank accounts. And they created a sort of a tax holiday or a, I'm sorry, a tax amnesty holiday. So that if you had your money in a Swiss bank account, you could come forward and admit it. And then they wouldn't charge you with tax evasion and put you in prison and make you, I think they still made people pay money, but you just wouldn't go to prison. So the retreated. What's that? Who penetrated it? Well, that's what I was just about to tell you. The reason it no longer became safe is because a gentleman who was an American citizen, but worked in the Swiss banking

industry, he retired. And when he retired, he walked out with the names of every American who had a Swiss bank account. And then he walked into the DOJ as a whistleblower. And he actually received, he well, I mean, he kind of a dick move. I mean, he had already made his fortune in the Swiss banking industry. And so he walked into the DOJ as a whistleblower and said, you know what, this isn't right. I'm going to go ahead and give all this information over. Definitely a dick move. But he figured he would be fine. And the problem became that of those thousands of names about 75% of them were prominent Democrat donors. I'm going to say that of them, the Clintons were in there. And he's now dead. The Clintons definitely come into play because Hillary Clinton was Secretary of State. So she had to Obama sent her to Switzerland to negotiate. And on her way there,

somehow miraculously about 1400 of the names got deleted. Okay. So the ones that were left were the non-democrat politicos. Okay. People who had not been donating to Obama and all of those big dark money campaigns. And the rest of them, this is why they allegedly did the tax amnesty because they said, we know some of you have these bank accounts, but we can't prove who some of you are because the information was mysteriously deleted. So that just happened to be all of the the Democrat donors. And then the Obama Justice Department, while this guy had whistleblower protection, they prosecuted him for crimes related to taxes and money laundering and stuff. And then they put him in prison for like, I don't know, 30 months or something like that. And the great irony is because he whistleblower and because he helped the United States recover all this money. When he got out of prison, the first thing the IRS did was cut him a big fat check. He got like

$10 million as his bounty. Geez. Yeah. Yeah. So it'd be nice. Kind of crazy. By the way, Zach, since you're here and you're our resident singer, can you sing Gateway Mega? Happy birthday. Happy birthday to you. I love making voice. Happy birthday Gateway Mega. Happy birthday to you. I'm here every Friday night at 10.30. Wonderful. They'll work in brilliant. So my church does this where we sing happy birthday to someone than everyone in between the line says, woo. So you have birthday to you. Woo. And we are visiting my parents church years ago. This is a few years after I got married. And someone had a birthday

in their church. So they all start singing. And my wife grew up in this tradition where you shout, woo, in between lines. And so as the whole church is singing happy birthday, she goes, woo. You could hear a pin drop me. Her face got so beat red. It's like the only person doing that. Yeah, we don't think we don't do that here. Oh, that's super funny. Caleb, question for you. First of all, how's it going? I haven't seen me on a stream in a while. Actually, you're on only lines this week. You're not on the lines. What about you? Yeah. Yeah. How you been? Doing well. I know that you know the information about stuff that went down yesterday. Yeah. That's what went down yesterday, bro. Fill us out. Fill them in. Yeah. So we were at this event for the GOP chairs in Colorado. And there was this stalker situation. And so I had had glass or red wine. And mom's friends, I need you to serve this man. I'll give you 50 bucks. And I was like, all right, you know, whatever. And so I dropped the papers down and he

throws them back at me. And he's like, you know, what the hell is this? And like made a big scene, scared the shit out of people. He was like, I'm not a J6 trader, like, or terrorists. It was just a bunch of nonsense. But can you tell us a little bit more backstory? Like, who is this guy? Who was he stalking? Probably don't say his name. Well, why not? I mean, if it's a matter of public record, if he's been served a restraining order or some type of lawsuit. Because the dude's not stable and asses already in the crosshairs. And I don't want to put her further in the crosshairs. So let's not say the name. Okay, absolutely. Your mother is being stalked? No, my mother's friends. And this guy is like mentally unstable for sure. And so like, as far as mental health goes, I wouldn't like, you know, try and put him on blast because you know what would happen. But I don't know much about him at all, actually. Cheri's a good friend of my mom. They hang out sometimes. And she was just like, Hey, can you serve

this guy? He's here. And I've never done that before. So I was sure, you know, it's pretty cool. You can make like 75 bucks a pop if you do that on the regular. It was super uncomfortable because like, there's this event going on in all these, you know, people here for it, people talking. And then the like, the place was also very busy for dinner. And this guy's like calling us terrorists and whatnot. It was just nonsense. Okay, so I miss him. He's been melting down on Twitter. Like, he's tagging me and stuff like, Hey, why are you working with Ash doing all this stuff? And I'm like, I have no idea who you are. What's going on? This is really weird behavior. Everything he does. It's just like long threads of this event targeted at this event. There was the sheriff of whatever county we were in at Weld County, I think. And he went up to him. And he was like, Hey, man, you got to, you got to chill out, you know, and then he told the sheriff like, I'm not fucking going anywhere. Just made people really uncomfortable. And you could tell like his body language, like vibrating, you know, shaking so much adrenaline. It was just an unfortunate. So is he like an outcast from like the

local GOP scene? Or is he a leftist? I guess that would be a good, a good way to put it. Yeah, outcasts of the okay, okay, so the latter. So this lady that gave you the papers to serve knew that it was going to turn interesting. And was she doing it? Turning to you as a matter of protection or is she just throwing you under the bus? Definitely not throwing me under the bus. I think that she she felt very uncomfortable with that guy there. And like, I was hanging out and you know, I'm the the son with mom. Why not? You know, made sense. Big and strong. He is lately. Yeah, I'm in the gym. You know, I do know the other part of it, John. I was like, I can't, I don't want to bully this guy. You know, like he's obviously got some shit I do it. It's easy. The sheriff was right there. And she had a civilian do it. I mean, normally when you serve people, you have law enforcement do it because they may freak out. Sheriff, what do you mean? Well, he wasn't like on duty. He was the, you know, like at the event in normal clothes and he was like, and you got to leave. And he's like, I'm not fucking leaving. And

so Sheriff comes back in and he's like, hey, you guys should call the cops. And the cops kicked him out, right? They kicked him out. They made him leave it in the restroom. Yeah, it was about it. Crazy. And then I heard you also got like basically recruited or people are trying to recruit you? Not at all. Now there was a Senator Mark Basley was at the event. And afterwards we went to the bar and watched hockey game, grabbed a beer. And he was like, hey, you should come check out the Senate and like they walk on the floor and shadow legislation like see what we do. I was absolutely. That sounds awesome. You know, so he is ghosting me right now. But hopefully he hits me back. I'll see his full shit. No, so he was pretty genuine. But you know, politicians. That's your politicians. Jaychard, how you doing, man? I'm doing all right. I was a little under the weather last week. I slept through only lands. I had every intention of being here. And then I took a little nap when I got home from work. And that nap turned out to be about three, four hours long. And I missed the whole thing. And I missed you all in Nashville too. So I feel like I haven't seen anybody in ages.

Yeah, it's been a while. Yeah. So it's also one of my favorite weekends of the year, which is NFL draft weekend. Yeah, you guys are off to us. Drunks. I mean, it's hard not to with the number one quarterback. Yeah, but it is like the time of year when Rader fans have like eternal hope, you know, and it's like the our Super Bowl basically. And then, you know, you feel like all good about the season going into it until you see these guys get on the field. And you're like, oh man, we're going to suck again. So what's the deal with Karsby? Oh, I just remember reading the Baltimore nonsense a while ago. Yeah, yeah, he got traded to Baltimore for two number one picks, but then they backed out because I guess he failed the physical, but he had just come off a knee surgery. So everybody knew like he would couldn't pass a physical, but they signed that Hendrix and Guy from Cincinnati. So like, it was just, is that a scene? I think so. Both. I was pressure. Yeah, they were saying like, oh, we were going to pair them both, but it was basically like they got virtually the same guy without giving up two first round draft picks.

I think everybody thought Trey Hendrix was going to get signed like the first day of free agency, and he was still lingering after a day or two. So they, um, neged on the trade, reneged on the trade, and then signed Hendrix in like 10 minutes later. So I'm happy. I love Karsby. He's like my favorite writer. So I'm very happy. He's still there. Yeah, surprisingly, it's going to afford it. You guys had a ton of moves. Plus they just drafted somebody. They just drafted a center. Just now. Yeah. Um, it's interesting. Kila, by the way, do you have a big enough water bottle? Are you sure you don't need a bigger one? Sure, everybody having your water bottle. We're filling it sucks, man. Hey, you got me. You got it. It's like a water curls with that. Caleb. No, I need it. I got to enable you. So like I've enabled myself to drink more water, because I have a comically large water bottle. You know, half water, half protein. Oh, not in the water. Protein is so expensive. Water is there. It's not

something else. Just water. Oh, that's, that's absolutely. Yeah, protein is expensive these days. Everything's expensive. Kind of almost everything's expensive. Matt, how you been, man? I've been good. Enjoying the last, probably last few days here of spring in Arizona, where we can leave the windows open and have the nice breeze. Perfect temperature breeze coming through at night. Soon those days will be over, but, uh, you can out a few more of them and, uh, happy because one of my pet cook causes was in the news this week, which is, um, at least according to Steve Turley video, I watched, which is that the possibility of, of returning, uh, Arlington County back to the District of Columbia from Virginia and forcing all those people that live there to vote in the District of Columbia instead of polluting the, the Virginia vote with their, with their awfulness and maybe turning Virginia back into being a hard red state.

I don't know how likely it is, but, but there's evidently a good constitutional argument for why Trump could do it unilaterally. Yeah, um, and, uh, so I don't, I don't know, but, but it's, it's been a pet cause of mine that, like, I would almost accept DC statehood if they would, I'd want to take Fairfax County too, but they took back, they took back Arlington made all those people vote vote in the District. It's like, yeah, we're going to keep all your votes together, uh, and we're going to take Virginia back, then I could almost live with that. DC state, uh, huh? No, no, no, I don't think I'm on board with that one. Yeah. So, I mean, personally, I think that, they should, okay, so on one hand, I see the genius, uh, President Trump could just say, uh, the reason that Virginia wanted that back is because they weren't making enough money, and they wanted to make sure that they were going to get the benefit of all the slaves that were in that area. So President Trump could just say, you know, any move that was made, you know, after a certain date, uh, with the goal of aiding slavery is, you know, null and void, and we're

just going to give that back. And I think that the manner in which they gave it back to Virginia is questionable as well. So it would be within the original framework of the constitution to create that, uh, that perfect square boundary again. But I think there's also an argument to be made that DC should merely encompass the government buildings, uh, that make up the actual government, like, you know, all of the people, I think it would be better if they were just actually part of the states themselves. And, uh, and just let them go that way. And then we would get rid of the DC circuit court. There would be no need for that. And if anybody commits a crime in DC, we can just have, you know, any of those states that border on it, uh, it would be possible to bring the charges there. Definitely, we gotta get rid of the court system. Yeah, the circuit court system there is one of the worst things about America right now. Yep. Bring back trial by Jerry.

Tell him something. I will. So that's where I am. Sort of, you know, that amused me for a couple days. And, uh, and, by the way, the, the opening, you know, our new opening with all of our AI things there, uh, the music in it, it, it makes me think that we're about to, we're going to go save Jews from the holocaust. Oh, the music in our opening makes you think it was even Jews. That was awesome. Yeah. It seems like, it seems like somebody's make me make it something like Chindu's list. Okay. Wow. Okay. Now I'm going to play it again. So yeah, let's get that one here now. Yeah, we're going to do intro again. Put yourself in the mindset of saving Jews and whatnot. All right. The Jews. The ideas that gave birth to our nation are the ideas that our nation is resistant to right now. And we should talk about that all the time. In a world where narratives are shaped by corporations and consumers,

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Yeah, I it's yeah, so you know, nothing wrong with saving Jews from the Holocaust, I'm not saying that's bad at all. No, no. I mean, who wouldn't want to save Jews? Exactly. Exactly. Isn't that what we're doing? I think of a few people. I had, but to say, I've got a list of people like it. I'm pretty sure I had two Jews stuffed under my black leather trench coat I was wearing there. You were saving them though, right, Jay? Just saving them. Thank you for clarifying to you. Yeah, no funny. We should probably be the quick word from our sponsors tonight, huh? Perfect timing to do it. And then we'll come back and hear how Cam is doing. They're finding that ADL. Probably not going to happen at this point. If I had to guess, they are probably no longer interested. Almost out of them. Oh, we're on our way to go save them. I don't know, man. Please give us credit. Anyway, first up tonight,

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my information has been removed from the internet. Well, obviously less spam, but I have started my phone number is somehow connected to my ex-wife's name. I'll just say that. And so I like I was like that was a shocker. And I didn't think to tell them to remove information about her when I was when I gave them the details. So I got to reach back out to him. So she's getting calls or what? No, I don't know. She's getting calls. I was searching for information with my phone. I wanted to test and see, you know, what came up and see how successful it was because I had gotten, you know, virtually no sales calls and you know, like recently it started pick back up again. So like somehow my information got back out there. I'm sure that they'll catch it. But I went and searched for my details and nothing came up related to me, but it only came up related to her, which you didn't use before. Interesting. Yeah. Well, we'll come how you doing now,

your turn. I'm doing great, man. Jackie and I went to see the new Michael Jackson biopic today. I was it. It was so fucking good. I heard that it felt like a movie that was cut in the middle. And you you need to watch part two, like you're waiting for part two. So I'm not going to give any spoilers, but like Zach said, it ends in the middle of his story. Do they kill him off or something? It's not the middle of the story, bro. Not yet. Not until 2009. Who played Michael? He's not. Yeah, no, not you. Jafar Jafar Jackson. I forgot whose son it is. I think it. Tito maybe. I don't know. Yeah. One of them. It does matter. Michael's the only Jackson. Exactly. But no, it was dude. It was the score was amazing. As, of course, it would be just the everything about it was good. It was it was a really good movie. It reminded me of like if the Melania movie was made into like a

biopic, like it was it was made. It was it was made very well. It's put it that way. And I don't feel like there was any like full on propaganda of any kind in it. It was just Michael's story. And it was it was it was made by people who love Michael. Yeah, exactly what meant to be like an expose day from from what I understand the one of the reasons that it feels truncated is because they had like a third act that after they had filmed it, they learned of some contractual obligation and they could not include it. And so they had to stop where they did. And I and I'm certain that they're looking to see how people receive this first one. And then if it goes the way they think that they'll complete the story. Yeah, at the at the end of the movie, it literally says his story continues. So the idea is that there's going to be a second part to it. Is that Jackson's so alive? Yeah. Yeah. And it is for sure. Was it was it was that one he passed?

So that's why I was asking low camps and I'm not okay. Yeah. No. Sorry, your titty is covered up. I have no idea about Latoya. She was she was she was the only female that was like like the sister only sister. I guess there's only two sisters, but she was in it more because Janet was young obviously at the time. But yeah, I don't I don't know about Latoya. I'll look it up. But yeah, other than that, I mean, life's going well, man. I'm still I recovered from Gart, but I don't know man. I'm just I'm ready for the next one, dude. Like I had so much fun. I just every every time I go to Gart, it's just yeah, every time I go to Gart, it's just like a refresher. Like we deal with all the bullshit on the day to day. We're reading headlines where seeing dumbass takes from fake ass influencers. We're seeing people get wrapped up, but not like fully arrested. We're seeing people that are getting indicted, all this stuff. And then we go to Gart and I'm just like, all right, the bunch of other people that have been dealing with this other shit just like me. I'm not alone anymore. Yeah, I miss Gart. I think a little depressing afterwards and you come home from those

things, experience such a high. And then it's just like the let down, but well, John, years, your endorphin sensors will completely burn out. And basically nothing will excite you anymore. Is that you? Yeah, yeah. You get to a point where like somebody has to take a shit on your chest to be for you. Oh, that's what I was going there. What a weird thing to say. Oddly specific, crazy love turn. We just, oh, you're in that movie movie movie. So did you not have fun at Gart? No, I had great time at Gart. I'm totally messing with you, dude. He's saying Gart is like, is like his version of getting shit on it. That's how much he enjoys it. I can't believe he's going to leave a panel on that. Oh, my God. Oh, Amber. Yeah. Yeah.

Crazy. How are you going to top that drink? I was just going to say that Zach made me think of that movie movie 43 where Chris Pratt is is what I want him to try to describe it. It's it's don't. It's not worth it. Zach's coming made you. There's a movie about that about shooting on chest. Is there? That's not a hell. That's not the whole premise of it. No, it's like it's a movie of a little vignettes that are highly. Oh, we played that once on, on, yeah, we're a little liberty done a long time. The amazing racist, right? Isn't he part of that movie? I believe so. I'll try it. Maybe it's like a series of vignettes and one of them is Chris Pratt is wanting to take his girlfriend at the next level and she's he was wanting to propose to her and she was thinking that he would poop on her chest. What in the world have to watch this? What is this? It's called movie 43 and I don't even know if that's it's okay. It's a movie. It's yeah. So it's okay. So what I

know about this is it's it's like it's okay. What it was made by didn't offer if I'm not mistaken. Remember we played. We played the clip where what's his name had like balls. Yeah, the neck from his neck. Yeah, that's right here. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, let's watch it. You're right. Thank you, Kim. I'm going to need a copyright thing. So if we get kicked off of YouTube apologies, but we got to watch this. Can you turn YouTube off for a second? Yeah, because he can't just turn it off and on. I can't do it on YouTube as far as I'm aware. They were actually married in real life too. All right, there. Now it's a picnic. Would you care for a chocolate covered strawberry? Oh my gosh, sweetie. Talk about romantic. This is perfect. Julie, we've been together for over a year. 16 months and two weeks.

And in that time, I've come to realize that you mean everything to me. No, tag you too. There's something I want to ask you. There's something I'd like to ask you. Oh, okay, you go first. No, you go first. No, you first. No, you first. How about we say it at the same time? One, two, will you poop on me? What are you saying? I trust you. I feel like you're my soulmate. I want to give you this gift. I want you to be my first. On me. What? You don't want to? No, I mean, are you not attracted to me anymore? Of course, I'm attracted to you. So, will you poop on me?

Man, you just hit the fucking lot of me, man. I think it's a little weird. The line is shit on her. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Slow down, man. Have respect for this guy, okay? She did not ask him to shit on her. Shitting is something you're doing a whore. Right, right? Poofing is a gift you give to your soulmate. Okay. Of course. Before you do the big deal, you know, does it? Is this a party to celebrate the, yeah, I think so. Oh, I think so. Fucking matter. She a vegetarian? No. Boom. Big beef burrito with extra beans on that bad boy. Put some salsa, some guacamole for color. Will it come out of you? It's a festival. You know what I'm saying? You went to extra yard for your lady. You hear me? I'm doing something classy, okay? I'm doing seared ahi tuna steaks, my salad, and red wine. No, no, no, no. Fucking no. It's not about how messy it goes in. It's about how fancy it comes out.

Mexican food makes a fucking mess. Don't miss a fucking salad. Do a salad does? It's lost out of your mouth. This is it. What your mouth is all about now, do you? No, this is cool. How are you fucking drinks? It should last longer. You don't want to be Mr. Two Squeez. Thank you, please, right? You really don't want that. Billy, goddamn Billy. Why don't you go over there while growing people are talking over here? Go over there and put your GI Joe to some shit, man. Yeah, I'll go over there. Look at this. This is awful. Take my advice from Mr. You go out tonight. This is your idea of the show. I'm too serious. Okay, get all out the system. Fucking tomorrow. You are one poop man. Understand? What the fuck is this? I have no money. I have no money. I have no money. Yeah. I'll tell you what I got on the end. Yeah, I can't just shit around me. That's probably his. You've got damn right. I got a meat problem. Are you? Wow. So this movie is so bad, so offensive, that it almost never came out.

Like, it's incredible that they got as many big names as they did to make this movie. And I think that they really did not tell the vast majority of them exactly what was going on. Like, you know, I think the premise is that you have, I think in one version, it's Greg Keneer, maybe, is pitching his, like, he breaks into a movie studio and like holds the producer hostage while he makes him read his script. And it's just these little scenes. So the guy starts reading and then it jumps to the one. Jade, right, you're talking about with like the neck balls. And then there's, it's got Halle Berry and Oscar winner, Halle Berry. Yeah, you're just in these crazy little sketches like this that are just completely out to lunch. And yeah, there's, anyway, the comment that you made just maybe a thing of that. So my apologies to those that were offended by that, but not really.

So that's how you do this? Okay, well, no, I am actually doing pretty good. I just recorded with Pauli Mathinon our second ether episode, which will air this Sunday. And last week was talking with Chris and not talking about the ether at all, but just kind of, you know, philosophical underpinnings of why such a conversation would be worthwhile having. And then this week, we're actually starting to get into the meat potatoes of the whole thing. So, well, I don't remember. Could be. But yeah, that was fun. We just, like right before hopped on here, we got finished recording. So Chats telling us only one person checked out over the shitting on Chess thing. So I feel like that's a win. That's a win. That's a pretty good win. I feel like the audience is maturing. Yeah. The way that seems, I don't think that's what that means. Even better. We have a very sophisticated sense of humor here in our lands. Hey, didn't understand that.

Do you just go right ahead? That's all we have to talk about podcast world. Oh my gosh. Crazy. Well, what else? How do you follow that up? I mean, where do we go from? It's not from something else. Somebody changed the subject. He's moved though. His delivery. I mean, that guy could be in anything. And he's just like gold every time. It's the it's like the list. And obviously it's just like the the old black man syndrome, you know, the old black man talking. You just everyone listens. Whether you like it or not, you're listening to a magic. Magic. Magic. Magic. Yep. Magic Negro. Took years to cultivate that decades. I love him on Kirby or enthusiast. Oh, he's so funny on that show. Oh, man. That show is that show is so good. Curving enthusiasm. I can only take so much of it because it makes it's so neurotic.

It just yeah, like you can only take it. I can take it in small doses. You know, I've never seen all of them. And I'm grateful that there's like five to six years between seasons because I'm still needing to catch up on a lot of them. But, you know, back in the day, I used to watch it all the time. Hey, would show are we talking about? Curve your enthusiasm. I've never watched that actually. Larry David. And it's like the most accurate biopic depiction of Larry David's life. Biopic. Yeah, his wife in his wife in the show is RFK Juniors wife. Yeah, Cheryl Heinz real life. Cheryl Heinz, yeah. What's with all these podcasters taking the time off at the same time? Are you seeing that on social media? I don't know. Yeah, so are you referring to? It looks like Candace Owens, Ian Carroll, Nick Fuentes, and Sneakow. And everybody's like, oh, they must be taking us to BLC money. I saw somebody say that Sneakow was actually live. Ian Carroll said that he was taking time off because of David Wilcock. And he said, I'm not suicidal.

I don't know that anybody's trying to kill him. But Nick Fuentes and Candace Owens, they both, you know, disappeared at the same time. Nick is in like Italy. Well, no, he's in some other country. But Candace isn't Italy. And she claims that she told the audience she was taking a vacation. But she never actually did. So I don't know. It is sauce, though. All right. The quartering too. The quartering might be taking time off because the collective internet is coming for him. That's brutal. Yeah, let's go out with that. So, oh, man, I know all this lore. Okay, so let me fill in. There is this commentary channel called the Kino Casino. And they basically just do super long streams where they will watch other people's streams and then spurging out lots of lalk house stuff. And they've been talking about Jeremy for a while at the quartering. And they basically determined, according to them, allegedly, not even in my opinion,

that Jeremy and his wife have a nontraditional relationship where that means that Jeremy's a cuck. That's what they claim. And there's actually quite a bit of evidence to support this. He lets other people fuck his wife. At least one person, a guy who's been stated by Jeremy to be his best friend, and that guy comes over. And anyways, the reason that they put this together is because there was all of these things about this guy coming over, and Jeremy saying things that people kind of questioned. And then his username is the same as his username on Reddit, where he's in all of these hot wives' cuck chair. What are they called on Reddit? It's like, I don't know, rooms or like conversation places, forums, basically. He's pretty open about the fact that he's a bull. I didn't know what that term meant, but a bull is the guy who comes over

and uses your wife while you're the cuck in the chair. And apparently, Jeremy's the cuck in the chair. And so anyways, the keynote casino did all of these videos talking about this situation, and having a lot of fun with it. And Jeremy basically reached out to them through an intermediary and said, please stop talking about this. He didn't admit that any of it was true, but he said, it's affecting my wife. You shouldn't be talking about my wife, and they refused to stop talking about it. And so Jeremy struck down their channel on YouTube, their clips channel. And that's kind of an unwritten rule in the YouTube world. Like, you don't take down somebody else's channel. You know, if you got a problem with somebody's video, there are ways to address it. But he struck down their entire channel and got them deleted. And he was like bragging about it. And so every huge commentary YouTuber that you can imagine,

and a lot of the people that Jeremy was friends with, like people in like the sort of like all conservative comic book scene, they all made videos about it. And basically said, Jeremy, you made a mistake. You know, you're ruining your reputation. You should make it right. And Jeremy refuses to make it right. And so people have just like gone in hard on him. Well, yeah. That's interesting. Wait, Boop, John, what does that mean? I don't know. Isn't that the thing that BB was talking about? Yeah, but what do we talk about? That's the nut slab. He said, Boop was like, it's like Trump can give us a Boop like a bad lens, Boop. Did we get a new true source post from Trump? I have no idea. I don't know what she's talking about. I'm drunk right now or something. No. As you say, that's the right answer every time. No.

Yeah, when they go out for a little anniversary dinner, by the way, happy anniversary to your, your mom and dad, oh, it's in telegram. Be an anniversary to them. And happy birthday to Christy. Happy birthday, Christy. Oh, yeah, Christy's birthday. Happy birthday, Christy. Yeah. What's going on? The Boop you were talking about is another type of Boop that BB likes to hand out. That's right. That's right. That's right. And I hope you're out of the Boop here. He was putting me on edge at, at guard. Like he would be talking with someone and he would walk by and just subtly twitch. Dude, I freaked out on him like two guards you go and he hasn't done it to me since. But he's got to show him how upset it makes you. Well, he didn't actually do it. Like it was just the threat. The threat, yeah. The threat of it will be able to terrify you, man. Like I imagine that when I'm sleeping at night, Jackie just sees me go like this. Everyone's so low. So what are you doing? I think he's going to slap me with my sleep.

You're dreaming about BB? No, I'm not dreaming. I have nightmares about him. I'm dreaming. It's nightmares. I don't know man, that tracks. Okay, should I show the Boop then, I guess? Okay. If President Trump posted about a hot carol or something like that, this is all my god, please. Why? Why? You have to do something. You have to do something. You have to do something. Hot carol. Is that how they call it? Yeah, I think so. Yeah. You think so. You know what I mean? I love the show, but I'm just saying exactly. And John, I know a lot about everything. Okay, if I hear something once, it sticks in the crawl. I can't get everything rid of it. I know Dirty Sanchez, but that's just from... Oh yeah, I mean everybody who's in middle school knows about Dirty Sanchez. Yeah, exactly. It's called a Cleveland steamers. There we go. That's what you're going to see in the chamber. So I guess I don't know everything. What the hell's hot carol then? I don't know. It's actually a hot carol, okay. It kind of makes sense too. I don't know. Is that why LeBron said Cleveland? This is for you. And then left for Miami. Just drop the Cleveland steamer on him.

Oh my gosh. Can you come on the show and explain your Boop? So I don't have to. It's just why it's birthday, man. He's not coming on. Have a birthday, Christy. He can come on for a couple of seconds. No, be right. We're Ash. Ash, come on and explain your Boop. I love how Kate cuts this. Ash, so she's never had a Boop before. It's her first. Ash has never been Boop before. I don't like that, Caleb. Oh my god. Peyton Boo got called a Fed by Alpha the other day. You know, you made it when the rest... How did you do Fed? You must have called out and called him doing Fed stuff. And he wasn't happy about it. I can't get over how big Caleb's water bottle is. I'm going to go in and call him just around the water. What did you say, Caleb? I do. I feel like I can't drink water now because we're making fun of me. No, we keep drinking water. I want you to stay hydrated. But I'm probably going to make fun of you every time I see it. Because that is just... That looks like we've sent those four people to space, and it's like so big. I'm going to get mine for solidarity. You have one that big too? Like, where do you even buy those things? It's got like the storage capacity of like, of a camel's hump.

It's kind of a massive, that thing. This is the thing now, Caleb. You embrace that giant water bottle. You make it part of your personality. And every time you come on the show, you let John know that he will never stop you from hydrating. Yeah, there it is. Yeah, you should also lower your mic a little bit and bring it like down here as we can see your face. Like close to you, and there you go. I'm trying my best. No, you're not. Somebody had asked, who's the guy hiding behind his mic? We're trying to appeal to the youth. Caleb. Well, it's like, it's a tricky setup, and she's short, and I'm not so. All right, Caleb, this is the boop allegedly. We have, we're supposed to play the first 30-some seconds of the Why We Vote clip, and then play or show the Skivino post. Here's the Why We Vote. Thinking about, if we're getting into that content, you know, we've had these boomerangs forever. You've got one on the top.

Of your studio there. I've got it hanging here. The beautiful amazing type of school. Had those made for us. I wear a boomerang around my neck. Kitty gave me that as a gift, and I absolutely love it. The boomerang is important because it's for close-around, comes around. And the journey that we've been through, the oppression, the stuff pressure, the your dangerous terrorist, the democracy, the challenge to punish of the past this year's feels like, Brian, you've got the boomerang. This is like, finally, boomerang's back around. Coming back. And then, this is what Dan's giving up posted. I actually know what, I'm going to show the John Brennan clip, both part of this first. Anywhere to go. Here we go. So John Brennan posted a reminder to federal officials. There is no limit on the number of individuals

who can use the whistleblower statute. If you think you're involved in unlawful activities as a result of a directive from Mr. Trump or someone doing his bidding, now's the time to report it. And then Dan Scavino reposted that with this. I love it. That's pretty good. All right. Nice. That is a boop. Ash, if I've ever seen one. That's definitely a boop. It's a ball. And no, Chris does not have a boomerang yet. Guys, stuff he does. He just doesn't have it. That's what's really not his, right? Isn't that something about, but there's a spoon or is it about pressure? It's an intensive law, right? If you don't have your boomerang, it's not yours. That's awesome though, guys. Well, that post was 2019. Yep. Oh, that's even crazier. But he just posted that today. Scavino did. That's a great boop. Can you imagine how like those freaking cuteards and it's not all of you,

but just like the certain sect of people who decode everything? How much they'd be freaking out of something like that happened with something they said or did? Oh, yeah. Of course. There's a reason why it doesn't happen though. Never get it as our boops. But whatever. And our script, Caleb needs to become a viral sensation so Ash can retire. Yeah, that'd be sweet. So the entire quote though, the entire, she doesn't want to retire. When are you going to start your show, man? Well, what do I talk about? I mean, like, I don't know, the floor was a little too faced. I think that like this format wouldn't be the best for me. Like, I think I'd need like clips of going out doing stuff and then talking about it in like a short setting. You know, I can't do that. Well, I would need like objectives from the Badlands Chad and from you guys. Like, you know, what do we want to hear about from the youth? Okay, I think, well, we can do this. We can start this. I want you to go around asking people about hot cars

and see how many people have given or received them. That's my vote on. That does not be it. I wonder if anybody else has any ideas. Well, I think that that would be perfect if you ask people like semi-offensive questions with your characteristic deadpan as if there's nothing wrong with it. And yeah, and you just, you know, you would ask somebody the question and then you would immediately put the mic in their face and they'd be like, fuck you serious? Like, what are you talking about? That would be perfect. Give me an example of the question like that. You know, what was it like when you told your parents who were gay? You know, something like that. How long did you start with a couple of real questions? Like, what do you think of this? What do you think Trump? What do you think of this? And then throw something super offensive? But a couple of ideas in the chat is you should pretend to be a liberal and interview other liberals. Yes. I mean, that'd be easy in Colorado. Yeah, it would. I was just going to say that campuses here would be super easy. Yeah. What are your interests?

Because the biggest thing about streaming is you got to do something you're passionate about otherwise you're going to burn out. It is super fulfilling like other people in my age, like when you tell, like when they want to we'll review you or like have conversations so rare. You know, and so like finding the common ground is a cool thing. It's pretty fulfilling. But like I do think that that's not always engaging. And so like offensive questions could be, you know, part of it. Well, you could you could easily ensnare a liberal by beginning with, you know, what is tell me tell me why Donald Trump's a fascist, okay? And then, you know, you get them to like hook that way. And then you could immediately lean into, you know, how, you know, have you started transitioning your child? Yeah. Or, you know, we are we have some itinerant illegal alien laborers, you know, undocumented laborers that are in danger

of being picked up by ICE this afternoon. Can we hide them at your house? Something like that. So you better like question their moral authority. I think that would be great. They're really good. Nothing out though. Man, you got to have that talent to that. When you tell me why Donald Trump's a fascist, I mean, to me, that's a problem. That's going to be a tell because it's just like, you're supposed to know that already. You know, you don't ask other people that. You can ask them, what do you think of Donald Trump? That's a good way. Yeah, you've got to be. If you really want to drop them out, just be objective. Yeah, they're clever. And they'll smell when you're not when you're trying to bait them. Oh, for sure. Yeah, great. And so if you really want, which, if you don't care about that, that's fine. But I love, I love it when people can really fool them, you know, and really get them going and, and smack them. And that's a really, that's a talent. And maybe Caleb has it, you know, it'd be great because, you know, you just love to see it.

I, my heart's broken about what's happened to Colorado. It used to be a great state. No, can you, I can't believe it. Yeah, what was I count? Denver is a dangerous place now, sucks. Yeah, I'd almost be afraid, like worried, to like go do that down there. No, that would be exciting, I think. But it's just like, I mean, this is the first time there's been like a, a brainstorming about it, you know, and I think that's a great idea. But I think that that dynamic would also be very much so involvement from the viewers, what they want to hear. You could start off by positing that Donald Trump is a fascist and Americans all across the nation are, you know, they're nervous or they feel unsafe. You know, American citizens are getting rounded up by ice on a daily basis. And so we're here on campus asking students how they feel about this. You start with something that isn't happening and then just present it as if it's fact and then begin your questioning.

And I'm sure that they would immediately hook into it. Oh, yeah, that'd be kind of a blend of, I've seen interviews, like, man on the street interviews at the South by Southwest festival down there in Texas, where there's like the music scenes or music festival side of it. And there's the aspect of like you have to know all the, like the new bands, because if you don't know, then you're not cool. And so the interviewer just made up artists and bands and would just interview people about them. Good. And some people will be like, yeah, I don't know who you're talking about. Other people are like, oh, yeah, I love this first album, man. And they go to like this expose of what the first album was trying to like communicate. It's like, yeah, I just made that up. So you can totally do something like that. I've seen the same thing with like sports people, you know, yeah, that's kind of a stadium. Like was Bill Cosby the best, you know, like Ranger or, and then people don't know, they're just stupid. Yeah, that's engaging for sure. You can do that with laws, like do you like this, and then just make up some dumbass law? The danger with that, Cam, is the likelihood of you actually naming a real law is pretty tough.

What do you think the people at your age would be engaged to? Like, what do you think they would want to see? That's a good question. I think that people, like when you ask somebody something that it's tough because it needs to affect them, you know, like happen in your own backyard kind of thing for people to really open up. I would say that as a whole, like people my age who were like MAGA in the past are feeling kind of betrayed a little bit as young as, and so there's a lot of criticism right now with the younger generation about President Trump, and so that would definitely be something that I think you all would want to see for sure, but like with little substance to it, you know, and so like again, that's the issue is like is the goal to poke the bear and like be a dick or, you know, what's the goal here? Because like I, you know, I'm a pretty direct person. I, you know, hung out with all you guys. I'm sure you know that.

And so like that kind of seems like a difficult thing to be a boy, so to speak. Yeah. I think being genuine is. I don't see you having that your long-term irony. You're too genuine to do what we were suggesting before. Except maybe one time or two times, but I just see you being, having a sincerity of needing to speak about something you actually believe in rather than to fuck with people's minds too much. Yeah. I'd be interested to see why they feel betrayed, like going into that. Like what is it, not necessarily specifically, but like what is it that you feel betrayed from? Why do they feel that Trump is turning on them? Why do they feel like whatever the reason is for turning on him? Yeah. What are you seeing out there about that? I mean, but I would say if not all, most of its social media, you know, so take that as you will. But people just think like the my age for sure I've had conversations with peers and it's,

you know, we Trump ran on this platform of American first and it's not American first right now. You know, and you could go into all the different ways that that's true, but yeah, I mean, I believe that to a certain degree, but there's people that take that to the extreme and you know, go to places of anarchy which isn't, you know, productive. I think that, you know, there was a lot going on in that campaign and so like it's so understated the impact that Charlie Kirk had on the youth. And so like I think that him being out of the picture, there's not really been a person like that for people to cling onto. And so everybody just would rather not care and just, you know, whatever. You don't think Ben Shapiro's cut in the mustard. It's a much better sign, don't you think, that they're disappointed in Trump because he's not living up to the agenda that he ran on. Whereas, you know, in the past, it could have been,

oh, we don't believe in the agenda anymore. We want to go back to, we want to go back to the leftist agenda and all that. That would have been more of a classic swing. But the fact that they're, it's like, yeah, Trump's not living up to what he ran on. That's a good sign, I think. Not only that, I mean, I think a lot of us, like fundamentally understand the two-party system is, you know, bullshit and it's controlling us. But like nobody knows what to do about it, you know. And again, I've just talked to you guys about this a million times. It's much easier to be comfortable than do anything. But, you know, I, they would certainly be productive to have those conversations. It's just, there's always so many different trending topics, you know, it's a thing. Like, what do people, my age, care about? I don't know. That's a good question. That's probably where you start then. Go out there and figure out what people really, really care about. What an excellent brainstorm. If you combine a Matt Trump style road trip with the Man on the Street style and you actually,

like, hit up college campuses, you get to scratch the travel itch and see parts of the country. I don't know how much within the U.S. you've traveled, but obviously, there'd be a lot of good things. I wish I were young like him. I do. I mean, yeah, that's an incredibly attractive thing. Go into anywhere. You could talk to every hotel clerk you meet in the middle of Nevada or some small town bar in Idaho or something. People will, they'll want to talk to you. You have an endless supply of people wanting to talk. I think the college campuses is where it's for the reaction. Well, for meeting young people, definitely, definitely. But you should get a spectrum of everybody. Yeah. College campuses. I'll hit up trade schools too. Talk to the people trying to be the next only people employed class. By the way, the University of South Dakota State University, they actually have an ice cream parlor on campus with the cows that they raised

there. So if you ever go there, check it out. They do an MSU, the MSU dairy. It's a great ice cream. The college, college towns are, when I was traveling around, I loved going to college towns because they always read economic vibrancy. They always had a youthful spirit. You could, the public space of walking around any campus was always great. The only downside was I felt like all that wealth there was being generated by debt. And that just, it felt like, oh, you know, it wasn't until I got to Williston, North Dakota in the oil. You've been to Williston, North Dakota? Absolutely. I love it. I love it. I love it. I love it. It was perfect because it was, it was the first time driving around all of America where I felt like this is what America used to feel like where we used to make stuff and drive our wealth from like taking stuff out of the ground instead of debt and just real estate, churning Wall Street and all this. It's like, these are

real people and you go into town there and it was like working men, buying little homes, and there's all these women coming in. It's like wanting to be wives of the guys there, you know, super classic thing. And of course, women just wanting to be, you know, overnight girlfriends of some too, you know, that they always have that. But it was really a vibrancy of something material happening in America that I felt almost nowhere else, but they're, love it. Love it. What do you guys think about us being in the second-gilded-age? Explain how that means. Well, like the first-gilded-age, there's like a rock ruling class and then, you know, Americans weren't really being taken care of and I think that we're kind of following a same pat like, I think that we're in, for lack of better reference, like a broad-term second-gilded-age and we're all seeing the effects of that. I think there's a lot to that. Yeah, with the, we talk about like extremes of wealth, we definitely

have, we definitely have a billionaire class in that tech class that's huge in a way that, I don't think we had in the 80s. In the 1980s, you know, we had billionaires, but they were more one-off things, you know, even Donald Trump, but now it's like we have all these people that are running society that we sort of defer to and accept as being hyper-wealthy and they're getting, they're getting, like next year, they're going to be 10 times more wealthy and we're going to be 10 times more poor. And that definitely tests the class, yeah. Yeah, that definitely has the smack of the 1890s and that kind of extreme, you know, and it goes to the politics that we're, you know, both parties are somewhat captive to it, although it's like, oh, well, Donald Trump's the quintessential example. It's like, no, not really. Not really. He's sort of a counter-example. He's so man-of-the-people compared to the rest of them, but I think there's a lot to that,

and it's, it goes to a lot of the frustrations that maybe in your generation Caleb about that there's no way to get ahead. There's no way to, there's no middle anymore, you know, they always talk, oh, they're gonna, they want to get rid of the middle class. I think they did. I think it's gone. I think we're there wherever we were headed with that. And wherever we go from here, you know, I can only hope that what Trump is doing right now, you know, overthrowing the British Empire, bringing us back to something that's, that's based on something more traditional in terms of American material strength in true industry, kind of things you, you talk about Jonathan, that I, I think that if we're, if we're truly on that path, then we're going to be fine. But, well, they used a lot of same tactics to cause the disruption that led to that first guilt at age with the, the messing around with credit, causing railroad collapses in the 1870s and 1890s that caused the consolidation of those things into the, the standard oil and all of that

stuff. You can see parallels with the types of crashes they'd caused over the last 20 or 30 years, the same, the same playbook. I mean, that's, they do the same thing just over and over and over again. Yeah. And I would say that the biggest difference not to turn this into a G money thing, but the biggest difference is understanding that all political power rests on the matter of money, we actually have a technology that allows us to have sovereignty over a money that people didn't have back then. That is, that is one key difference in the narrative that is, would allow us to get out of what they're trying to push us into. Do you guys really think that Bitcoin is not another means of control? Do you really think that it's that level of sovereignty? Because I don't, for sure. 100% it is because it can't be controlled by any of these centralized forces. It's a wholly separate and there are a lot of other cryptos out there, like a central bank digital currency. I would admit that would be the perfect example of control. And that's one of the reasons why it's pushed against so hard,

but Bitcoin can't be in the hands of any one singular force. What about Sushinakamoto? I mean, he's a guy and nobody knows who he is. Give me a girl. Oh, actually, that's all the Bitcoin. I mean, that's, again, he has a very, you know, a lot of Bitcoin isn't that the story? He does have a lot of Bitcoin, but plenty of people have a lot of Bitcoin. And the scarcity of the Bitcoin is what drives the value because you're not going to be able to just completely just print more and more and more and more like they do with dollars. And, you know, I mean, Satoshi Nakamoto, whoever he is or whoever they are, might never actually cash in that Bitcoin. I mean, it's basically been untouched since he created it. And at some point, the Bitcoin's going to run out and then the Bitcoin that people have is going to explode in value even more than it has. The thing with the one that's going to run out, do we know that? Well, I mean, every 100 years from now, 20, 20, 20, 40 or something like that, the last one, I don't know yet. Okay, but you get to get exponentially harder to meet new ones as we

post that, right? Is that correct? For you know, having, for me with Bitcoin, the thing that got me over the hump to be like, okay, I kind of understand this now is, for me, it's really the only financial system that has like, it's a finite amount. Like, I can't really think of any other, like even when it comes to like gold or silver, even if you're trading in like what tree, or not trees, wood or something like that, like these things continue to grow. What did you say? The tally sticks, we talked about that one time. Yeah, that's what I was thinking of, I couldn't think of the name of tally sticks. But with Bitcoin, there's a finite amount. Like, you can have it and stuff like half it, but like, the set number is set. Not to turn this into an episode of Rugpole Radio, but the thing that I came to, is thinking of a Bitcoin not as money, which is an aspect of Jason Lowry's software, but thinking of it as a digital continent. And you know, here in the real world, you know,

in a continent, you have desert land, and you have valley land, and you have fertile farmland. So each acre has variable value. And in the digital world, a continent, like a piece of, you know, an acre, a Bitcoin in the digital continent has the same value as any other one. And instead of looking at it as trading your Bitcoin or spending your Bitcoin, it becomes essentially like digital land. And this ties into a spooner has an essay, poverty, it's a legal cause, and it's legal cure in which he lays out a, essentially a monetary policy in which everyone can become their own banker. Like, you have land, you can loan out credit based on your actual hard assets. And so Bitcoin essentially allows a completely decentralized banking system, contractual obligation system, and all of the above. So it's not just money. It's a parallel economic real system that can handle, we probably don't even know

the full extent of all the use cases for it, but it's not just money. My worry is that it's going to usher in the AI surveillance state a lot quicker in terms of financial control. And what respect? I think that like right now, we have a lot of up and coming, like data is obviously the most, you know, desirable thing. And like, why is that? And so the story of you having your own sovereignty, you know, with Bitcoin, all that, and there is facts to back that up that are undisputable, but it would make more sense to me that the reason that that is so pushed and that we have access to it in this broad way is because it's going to be a means of control one day. But why Bitcoin and not other crypto, and like, you know, why not your cell phone? Because this is the largest single point of data that is mined, and that's how you are coming up. Because if you can't buy and sell things, you can't do anything. So I think that if we were to completely convert over to Bitcoin,

like Satoshi Nakamoto might not be a person that could be, you know, an intelligence agency, and then we have everybody's being tracked, you know, it just worries me, and obviously we're going to get to the point, whether we like it or not, where we're not giving cash anymore, and we're already there pretty much. But it worries me that it will be controlled, you know, in kind of a market-a-beast way, if you will. Well, but I mean, that's assuming that Bitcoin becomes the only thing of value, but like hard assets are always going to maintain value. I mean, like precious metals are not going to go anywhere. Food will always be valuable, supplies. I mean, I've got bullets, Bitcoin, and Boolean, okay? You know, that's where I have all of my money. So those things are never going to go anywhere. But I mean, in terms of like the worry about a digital monetary system, I mean, we are already there. I mean, there's plenty of places that don't take currency.

It's just that that digital currency is being traded through the banks. And I don't think that there will be a world where Bitcoin is the only cryptocurrency. I mean, like there are quite a few others out there that people are, you know, using for purchases and people are saving and people are mining. So, you know, I just, I don't see a world where Bitcoin becomes it. But Bitcoin has a lot of other use cases beyond just a storage of value. And, and that's where a lot of people see the utility in it because many of these other cryptos, like the only thing you can do is basically spend. Yeah. And I feel like we already, our monetary system is already completely digital. Yes, there is. It is. Yeah. It's printed in coins. But ever since like probably the Federal Reserve at least, but ever since banking went on to computers, it's just been digital at that point. It's so much easier to create money on a computer than to create a piece of paper even though they can do that at will. So, I think that's it's already here. Like I've mentioned this before when I bought

my truck for a huge old one, 2002 F-150. I bought a freight grand and I went to go withdraw $8,000 for my checking account. And the bank wouldn't let me until the regional manager, they had to call the regional manager and ask, hey, can we let this guy have his own money? That's that's my money. We need to make sure that you're not being defrauded and all that kind of stuff. And whereas if it was a transaction on the Bitcoin rails, it doesn't require the permission of some person who has nothing to do with the transaction. The decentralization of it, I think, is the answer to your concern simply because of the way that the network itself works. And I see your mom making a point. She said, I think you can talk about digital currency generally. That's probably what you're, I think your concerns applied in those cases, but with Bitcoin because of the way the network has actually set up, I don't think and I could be wrong. I don't think that those concerns will ever be realized

in that way just because of how decentralized it actually is. Yeah. I mean, I was just going to say, and I think that ultimately the argument that Caleb is making is more in general about cryptocurrency. I mean, there are certainly others that I can see how they could be abused. But yeah, Bitcoin on its own, I just, I don't see it in that respect. For me, I think for the longest time we've always had the only option. We've had the Galean dialectic of the choice between the lesser of two evils. And I feel like the Bitcoin system is not in that system of the lesser of two evils. There's not, I'm not saying that it can't be corrupted. I'm not saying that people can't be corrupted. But the idea behind Bitcoin is outside of that Galean dialectic system of do you want CBDCs or do you want physical, physical money or whatever you want them trying to say with that? I do. I think, you know, I saw something thought provoking a while ago and I can't

give a credible source right now. But it was talking to the point of how the generation of Bitcoin is very similar to religion. And that kind of got me because it's, you know, just means of control wise. I think that if we all have this idea that Bitcoin is a standard that nobody will ever think that, you know, it's, it's dangerous. And I think that if nobody thinks it's dangerous, that's very dangerous. But I could be wrong. You know, I mean, what do I know? I grew with you on that. But I think that comes down to it. It does stem kind of from what you're saying. But I, well, it's stem from what you're saying. But my thing is it's a mindset of human beings that is the issue here is we cling on to things in anything other than God. I feel like people cling onto things and they just hold on tight to it and they say, I have to do this because it's the only way or I have to do this because of whatever reason. And I think that's where the real issue is because we could find a million different things that people treat like a religion that are detrimental to us because too much of anything is bad for you.

Yeah, that's a good fair point. So my question is how do we, how do we, I don't think we change the hearts and minds of individuals, but how do we change our own mindset to where we're no longer like clinging on to these worldly things and putting all of our stake in them. I don't know. It's all questions. Yeah, I guess it goes, it goes kind of back to, I forgot when you talked about this Jonathan Drake, but it goes back to basically just like taking over your own sovereignty and taking over your own power, thinking for yourself, controlling your own energy, your own finances, your own household, your own community, whatever it is, but it's focusing on yourself not in a selfish way. But how can I, how can I best live, oh, I remember, how can I best live up to the law, the natural laws? We know what the natural laws are of this, this plane of existence that we live in. How can we get back to those and then through our actions show other people? This is not only is this the best way to live because you can make your own decision

whether it's good or not, but I'm living the most sovereign. I'm living the most free. I'm enjoying, I'm having the most enjoyable life doing it this way, which is according natural law. So I think that's kind of the key. Yeah, for sure. To the best of our abilities given our circumstances, I think doing things that lean towards sovereignty is always a good idea. Yeah. I guess we put John to sleep. We had no leave. Okay. Do you want to do the read? So yeah, we need to do a rumble studio ad. I thought that was a message, by the way, for him to have us read and I was like, I'm not going to read all this shit right now. And then I realized it was an ad read. I thought he was like, this is why I'm leaving guys. And I was like, why do you write this fucking novel? Okay, go. Go, John. Go. Go. Sorry, he's running the back end and I'm going to have to close everything out here.

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to store that. So you're like losing value all the time. You can actually own Tether Gold and then when you want that physical metal, you just cash it in for that and they send you a gold bar, which is pretty sweet. That is pretty cool. Yeah. Yeah, I just whenever it comes to money, I always just go back to the first time I ever learned about how the Federal Reserve works and how they create money at a thin air. And I was just like, I remember I told you guys, I think it was that garbage on the vats. I watched this DVDs that my dad gave me and I was just like at the end, I was just like, am I the only one that thinks this is walking bullshit? Like, are you kidding me? This is how I'm doing. Oh, it's really cool. It's fun. Yeah. Yeah. My dad didn't say that, but that's like that's basically what I was taught in like economics class and school and everything was just like, this is just how it works. And I was like, I don't like the way it works. Like, why are we still doing it? It might be only one. And then I found you guys. And I'm like, oh, okay, I'm not the only one. There's a bunch of everything about the fuck is out here. Yeah, it's a great thing when you're 12 and you find out that the financial system is blocked and you are too as a result.

Yeah. My allowances and we're shit. What are you talking about? I hope it worked last next year, too. Yeah. So G fontes says there was little to no talk of a central bank digital currency until after Bitcoin started gaining more traction in the years following the mortgage credit default swap crisis and wealth transfer. So I think that that was largely a response to the controller's fear that digital currency would be taken out of their hands. Because if anybody thinks that the first time the deep state control grid thought about switching us over to digital currency was when Satoshi Nakamoto published his white paper. I think you're sorely mistaken. I think I think that ultimately this was probably one of the things that they had on their on their goal sheet for quite a long time just to get rid of dollars. Because with fractional reserve lending, they don't have to have that money on hand. If they turn everything digital, they have to have nothing on hand. It's just, you know, they pump and dump out a thin air. I got in trouble in grad school because a professor mentioned

something about the limited supply of money in the banking system. And I was like, that's not true. What are you talking about? And I was like, well, quite literally, the Federal Reserve and any central bank can just print more money anytime they want. I mean, like that's the reason we have the inflation rates that we do now because every time there's a crisis, they've got to pump more money. They've got to cover somebody else's balance sheet. And here we are. And he did not like me for the rest of that class gave me so much shit. Yeah. He put you in your place there. Yeah, he did. Yeah. I still got it. I still got an A, but he didn't make it easy on me. Every time you take out a mortgage, they're actually, they don't have that money. It used to be, there was like 20% reserve requirement and they kept shipping away. I think the functional reserve requirement now is virtually zero. Yeah, it's like one percent. Yeah, which means a bank is literally making 99% of the loan they're giving you is made up money. Yeah. Right then and there. That's why they're so nervous about you

taking out less than $10,000. Right. Yeah. Yeah. That was that a small little regional branch. That's so funny. That actually ties into the question Caleb was asking earlier about the gilded age. That's how they're that's how they're building this gap. That's how they built this gap. This isn't the gilded age, right? We're talking about the gilded age and gilded. Whatever, man. Cut your balls off. I don't speak it. I don't speak it too well. It's good English. I'll start. I'm still thinking about getting where we told like a while ago that they were going to go into Fort Knox and tell us whether we had gold or not. And then that just like never happened, which I know wasn't there. Waiting for the re-run. Yeah. No change is there. Yeah. Well, didn't they didn't they get stolen on a James Bond movie too or something or didn't they bring it to the movie or was that a documentary? Yeah. Gold finger. Yeah.

So I keep I keep this bar of gold on my desk. This is the last bar of gold that I purchased. And you'll see it's from Credit Suisse. It was I bought this because it was right as soon as they collapsed. And so I was like, oh my god, this is great. I thought maybe there won't be too many of these around or they'll go for a higher rate because they'll be rarer. And this was back when gold was still around $2,000 an ounce. So anybody know what it is now? Very nice. It's over 4,000 last time I checked. Yeah. Hold on. I'll give you an exact number. Gold spot price. I also learned to be charcoal about a tie gold. You guys know about tie gold? No. Okay. And then like THAI gold. Yes. Thailand. Thailand. Okay. So spot price on gold right now is $4,724.80. Freaking awesome. Okay. So here's the thing about gold in Thailand. It's like integrated into virtually

every aspect of the culture. So like when people get married, the bride's family gives a whole bunch of gold to the couple. They integrated it into their clothing, into their buildings. And it's highly regulated. And because everybody in Thailand puts all of their money into gold, they don't just like store it or put it in a safe or something like that. I mean, it's primarily part of their attire like they'll wear it like necklaces and rings and you know golds, you know, bobbles and everything. And so the standard for tie gold is not 24 carrot. It's 23 carrot because they put just enough silver and copper in it to make it durable so that as people are wearing it and moving around with it, it looks basically the same as 24 carrot. Maybe a little bit orange or a little bit gold or but it's but it's so stable that it's not going to be too soft. And the tie gold market is strictly controlled by the Thai government

so that if you go into one gold store, the price of gold is going to be the same as if you go to another gold store. Like you're not going to get screwed on the margin markup. And there's a huge problem right now with scammers in Cambodia and China coming into Thailand and purchasing small amounts of gold to launder money from those scam and pig butchering call centers and they will send people in, they will buy small amounts of gold and then it'll be smuggled out in like fruit trucks basically. And so, you know, every now and then they catch somebody with a truck load of bananas that's sitting a little bit too low and they'll go through and they'll find, you know, $500 million in 23-carat Thai gold bars in there. But in order to like take the gold from Thailand, it's export controlled very, very tightly and there's a lot of rules surrounding it. But because of

the like digital markets where you can buy gold through apps and stuff like that and because of the incredible increase in value of gold, it's affecting Thailand because it's increasing the value of their currency which in turn makes it a lot more expensive for people to go there and vacation and spend their money there because people are getting screwed on the exchange rate. It's also making products that Thailand produces a lot more expensive on the global market because the Thai bot is valued at such a high rate. Yeah, it sounds like my brother-in-law's youthful trips over there, he would like work for six months and then spend a month somewhere and blow walls with money and rinse and repeat. And he did, he spent like month or two in Thailand just hiking around and I doubt he'd be able to do that now based on what you're saying. Well, if he's only hiking, you know, not staying at a resort or something like that. Well, he didn't have much money,

like he would work waiting tables for like said, four to six months, he usually crash at our house for a while and then would go off to do something like back packing across Thailand or that'd be so cool, dude. Wait, is this while he was married to your sister or while he's like he was already... This is my wife's, the older of her two younger brothers and this was before he got married. Oh, oh, oh, I get, I get what you're saying. I thought it was your direct brother-in-law like your sister's husband and he was doing that while they were married. I was like, oh, she was okay with this. Yeah, yeah. Love for six months. Very, very open relationship. Fuck it. Oh, man. So what I got from that story was that the Thai are cutting their, cutting their gold. No, no, no, they're not cutting their gold. It's not, it's not, I mean, the difference between 23 and 24 carrot is really negligible. Yeah, it's just one point. It's not pure Colombian gold. Yeah, it is an 100% pure, but it's pure enough for them so that they can wear nearly pure gold.

I get it. Well, it sounds too like the power of a population in general, buying into a central idea. Yes. Yeah, yeah, it's pretty cool. And also, you know, I mean, like theoretically, you could go to Thailand and buy a necklace for like a thousand dollars that might cost you three or four thousand dollars in another country because you're paying that markup on somebody else's having to bring it and and and and get it into the store. But you just don't have that in Thailand. You've got everybody is paying the same price and it's, you know, it's created like this, you know, excellent trust-based society. But now it's kind of getting ruined because of all of the scamming going on. Yeah, everything gets ruined. Yeah, yeah. So, the charge of evil. Yes, they are. Absolutely. All right. Does anybody have the rants pulled up? Actually, I do. Oh, good. Good job, man. I have the chat. Not the rants. Yeah, me too.

I'm told me about that. I don't know how I can, well, if you share it, then I can pull it up. Yeah, I can share my screen. You've got the power. Present. How many tabs you have opened because you squinted like you have like a bit. I had several. Yeah, nothing like alpha. By the way, if you ever see alpha's computer, don't look at his tabs. He has like 40 tabs, 50 tabs up. Yeah, yeah, that's me too. All right. Where's the, this is the bottom down here. Yeah, the red's the first one. All right. So first of all, our scrive. Thank you so much. $100 rant. Caleb is a based beast. Great job, young son. Much love. Thank you very much. Based beast. That's your name now. All right. Now, Keith O'Higgins says deep, hard red for Virginia sounds like an 80s porn movie or only fan site. Yes. Yes. Keith O'Higgins says famous baseball broadcaster Harry Carrey

was a big fan of chest dumps. You would ask the ladies for a suicide squeeze. I thought we were past this. Yeah, no, we're revisiting it now with keeping the audience. ZBM says both Chris Pratt and his ex-wife Anna Ferris went to the same high school. My old friend went to after they graduated. I even know a guy who is in the same wrestling team as Chris, Lakewood High School in Washington. And then he says, oops, I meant Lake Stevens High School. And then Peyton Poo said, that's a different story. He's going to pay for it. That's all right. Peyton Poo, remember, I got called a Fed by Alper the other day, hashtag winning. And then R-Scriv with a $20 rant says Caleb needs to become a viral sensation. So Ashken Retire. Yeah, right. I'm willing. And then Mrs. Rhea Freedom fighter says, boop, John. And then ZBM says, re-comment Chris Pratt and his ex-wife Anna Ferris did

not go to the same high school. Fake news. They just live pretty close to each other. My memory is fading. I'm getting old. Don't judge me. Love you guys. So real real quick ZBM is a lady and she is not getting old. She's like the same age as me. I think. Oh, gosh. What? So nice try ZBM. Yeah, you don't get that excuse. She's definitely the same. But she does, she does have two. She said this before on show. So I'm not talking to you. She has two boys that are wild child children. So I'm making her probably feel old. All right. And R-Scriv says Demver votes. Demver voters only care about sports. Caleb needs to combine these two. I like that. Demver. Yeah, I've never seen that before. I'm using it. Keith O'Higgins says Caleb should do a man on the street interview show. He could break the ice with a hot or not segment with nude pictures of Phyllis Diller and Ernest Bohr-9. He doesn't even know who he was. I was going to say Caleb. No clue.

I'm down though. Peyton Poo says my dad went from space engineer to a tax preparer. Cash is boss period. Flow to Lyle says I remember I guy one guy tried to sell me a Bitcoin for 480 bucks. Something like that in the beginning. My wife said if I buy it, she'll leave me. I should have made the deal because the day she's gone and I don't have that call. Oh, man. I'm so glad to get you gone. Anyways, yeah. Gateway Mag of five says thank you so much for singing Happy Birthday to me. It made my night. The martini is helping too. Happy birthday to Christy too. Happy birthday, Christy. Happy birthday. Gateway Mag of five. Yes. And many more. And many more. Chief on Tez 119. There was little to know to I read that one.

Little to know talk of central bank digital currency until after Bitcoin started gaining more traction in the years following the mortgage credit default swap crisis wealth transfer. And then Peyton Poo says never paid tax on cash. That's right. And boom, dig it with a $100 ran close on the line. Jatrian, do you want to adjust Matt's neck when he looks straight down like that? The plighties and the cringes. Every time I see it, the better I adjust his neck than his coccyx. So I'm going to just go with the next adjustment, Matt. Okay. You got business as neck. It's like tech neck, but only smarter. Yeah. Yeah. Just because always talking about that too. That's cool. We got bookend Benjamin's. Yeah. Very nice. Thank you guys. Beautiful thing. Beautiful thing. All right. Well, thank you very much. Everybody for hanging out with us tonight. Thank you, John, for making an appearance. Appreciate that, buddy. It was good to see you. Our fearless leader.

Yes. Anybody have any closing thoughts? You want to make sure you get out there before you got one more round that just came in. Oh, Dave daddy 523 Caleb. It's great to see you on two shows this week. Hope to see you more on Badlands. Maybe on your own show. Sure, it would make it easier to get my team boys interested in Badlands. Much better, Dave daddy. Two more rounds just can. ZBM says LOL. Yes. I'm 36 and my kids are aging me faster than nature intended, but I know my friend was in the same high school and on the wrestling team with Chris Brett. Cheers, y'all. Very good. Float Allyle says alpha. He pronounced it the right way. Did I pronounce it or did alpha pronounce it the right way? I don't. Oh, if he pronounced, yeah, yeah, yeah. And voila. Alpha. Like alpha. Alpha. All right. Speed. All right. Well, good show tonight, guys. Anybody got some shows coming up this weekend? Yep. Tomorrow at 730 flow. And I'm going to put them on the spot. Not tomorrow,

but Caleb said that he would start coming on my show when he asked him. I'm there. You already know it, man. I'm there. Tomorrow. Let's do it. All right, dude. Yeah. All right. I'll send you a link earlier. I'll text you during the day and give you a heads up, but I'll send you a link around like seven issue. My son, Nate is making my show prep like brain twitch. Hi, man. You're your show. Your show is completely different than my show. I know. I know. As long as as long as my voice is there, I don't even have to have my face on the screen. As long as my voice is there, I could go with my show. I just need an hour to have a meet. Just go with the flow, right? Yeah. So guys, tomorrow night, low 730 eastern time, Caleb's going to be on with me. So it'll be fun. Right on. Yeah. All right. We actually do have a badlands boost from Liberty 2112 from tonight. I appreciated Caleb's opinions tonight. I'm a BTC holder and his distrust of Bitcoin is logical study cryptology all you want. But ultimately, we interact with Bitcoin via a screen. It would be absolutely a rug and we should

be honest about that risk. Yeah. I mean, as somebody who was totally rugged on all of my Bitcoin ether and everything losing my entire retirement nest egg, yeah, it is totally possible. So you really got to be safe with the way that that you store your Bitcoin. So Ash, who really happened to you? That really happened to me. Yeah. When Celsius, when when the CEO of Celsius stole everybody's crypto and ran off to Israel for getting indicted by the DOJ and now he sits in prison, Alex Mishinsky, piece of shit. He took, he took, yeah, he took my retirement nest egg. Yeah. Fuck. Fucked out. So we got one more man to remind everyone about the badlands blitz on substack tomorrow. I'm not sure who the co-host is with Burning Bright. Yeah. No idea. But it's either Ash or Ghost. So, the powerful world records with a $5 rant that said is this Y-crumbs making

sandwiches. No, clever. With the sandwich making, we're talking about a powerful records. I'm just kidding. Thank you. All right. So I need to find a video to send us out on, because John actually set one up. You could find the finishing of that. Oh, I'd rather see the trailer for that for the movie 43 than the actual finishing of that scene. I don't want to watch that. I got in trouble when I made him play the balls, balls for a knack clip. And I didn't want to go there again, but we went there. John went there, man. You know, it's all right. Yeah. It's a subjective value. All right. This, this, this will be our outro video, Short and Sweet. All right, everybody. Thank you for joining us. And I hope you all have a wonderful weekend. See you guys in the next video. Get a mark there, the being there. Peace.

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