Nuclear Energy, Flags, & Locker Rooms in Idaho with Ted Hill

0:00Yeah, that's why you're such a great job. Because you're watching it. I am scouring. I'm watching. Listen, you are one of the people that has constantly run very, very tough bills. And again, some are hit, some are missed, but you're constantly moving. But I would like to start off with your position now in the advanced nuclear task force. This is something that you educated me on a couple of years ago, our need for energy, our need for energy security, the risk we're in. You know what somebody said recently? Richard McPherson, who you introduced me to. He was like, you see all these lights? You know why these lights are on? Because China leaves them on. They could kill our entire electrical grid right now. And when he said that, I was like, oh,

1:00God. Yes. Not just because it's like, oh, don't say that. But also, like, I think he's actually right. He is right. And you know, I did the the form we did back in December. I gave the threat brief, the sever security brief. And it was bloody. And it was the intent to scare everybody. And it's exactly that. You lose the grid. And it could be done. Basically, the Chinese are pre-positioned in our infrastructure now with malware rated execute on their plan. There's many other things they can do. There's there's drones, all kinds of kinetic attacks. We're talking non-kinetic. They can put us into the dark age, even for a month. They can be a while to recover. It's disastrous. It's really a bad day when you lose that. If you have an EMP, it's completely different. We step just to the cyber security. You lose the water in the valley. You're going to have a bad day. 350,000 people without water. They're going to throw it on the Boise River, trying to get a bucket of water. It's going to be bad. You'll lose everything. They'll be in within two days. All the stores will be looted. Everything will be looted. People going to be living on the streets,

2:03roaming, looking for food. Restores. It's going to be bad. It's going to literally be Mogadishu, but worse. You're not going to have any more trucks coming in. There's no fuel. There's nothing going to happen. Everything we're so dependent. We couldn't even communicate. There's not going to be any radio shows to tell you if you have a radio, which I have an emergency radio, you don't even know what's going on because no one has a radio. It's in their car. Your car's not going to work. Well, if it's not EMP, if it's gas, you get in your car. EMP is a different scenario, worst case scenario, but you lose this grid. It takes a long time for everything to recover. Everything shuts down, terrifying. He's right. I've been working on the cyber fusion center. I get crickets on that because it's going to cost money. We need to do that to make us more resilient against these threats. That's the next thing I'll work on next year, but I think the nuclear power piece is what we're focusing on. The renaissance of the nuclear power is time is now. The governor's all over this. He's really pushing this hard, so is Utah. We need to get on top of what

3:07we can do from INL. That's what we're doing with the spent fuel. Now we call it using nuclear fuel. Pursue that. Pursue the reprocessing aspect to that because INL leads that and then pursue the small module reactor piece, which we can do. That's a whole bunch of things going on. I get ALO and Oakle are out there building no kid in plants. They're going to be ready to produce by July. They're going to have critical and things are going to be going on. When I say this and the thing about the using nuclear fuel, there's 93-metre tons stored all across the United States and these different commercial plants. When they're done, they put these things in these containers out on the property. They're everywhere. Distored. We can bring these to Idaho and store them and charge the store. We're spending hundreds of millions of dollars to store it now. The DOE's paying people will take it to Idaho, give us a billion and a billion and a half to store it as we take it, reprocess it. That reprocess fuel is worth $100 trillion worth

4:14of energy output. That is reasonably so because even Wagner will say it's 1.2 million barrels of oil equivalent. It's $770 trillion or 80 trillion, but it's a massive resource. I did an episode recently with Richard McPherson about recycled fuel and what I didn't realize, and I've never really understood. I think recycled fuel is like, all right, I got a tank of gas. I use the tank of gas and somehow whatever came out the tailpipe, you recycle that into something but what he pointed out is like, no, look, you have a fuel rod. You have 100% of the uranium fuel that you've made, 235, fine, whatever. You use 3% of that? You yank the rod. You yank the rod, put it somewhere else, get another hundred. We have 97% of the fuel that we have painstakingly refined because only 0.7% of uranium is like, it's this tiny, tiny fraction. To refine it out of 238

5:17to get 235, get enough quantity and then we yank it after only 3% is done and 97% of the usable fuel is in those fuel rods. So when people talk about like, oh, we have all of this value sitting around. I'm like, I don't really understand the value. Now it's like, all right, you had a hundred bucks in your wallet. You took $3 out. You put the other, you left out their $97 in there and you threw the wall away. It's like, that's the value users yanked out the door. So we have close to 100 trillion worth in recycled fuel, or excuse me, recycled fuel energy. Recycled fuel in the eye. We're used, we're calling it an unused nuclear fuel. There's lots of terms. Sure. Spent fuel. We don't like that term. Sure. That's like the gas tank is the DOA came out and said we're used in unused, used nuclear fuel. That's the new term. Recycled is actually a better term. That's not the official term. It's a better term. That's a good term. Well, I'll try. One of the problems with recycling nuclear fuel that I've been that people have told me about is that you have a spinoff of plutonium through certain processes. There was a gentleman's agreement in the 70s and 80s

6:20where it's like, okay, look, we promise, promise not to do anything that makes plutonium. But in reality, there is one, no law that requires that we can't do that. And two, we're making plutonium, or excuse me, plutonium is a byproduct of this recycling. And unless we can get around that production of plutonium, we will never be able to recycle it properly. Is that accurate? It depends. Now, they got Halo is a higher ratio. And it's up to like 19%. I think when the plutonium and the the actinizes are real serious like the different high density nuclear materials. The it doesn't happen that way above below a certain point. So at the commercial level, it's three to five percent in rich to 35 rods. When you talk about all that, 97%. That's not, I mean, you reprocess what you get these rods, you chew them up and you put them in fluid and hydro, hydro fluoride acid. And you meld it and you separate and you do the same thing, you enrich it,

7:24you do the, yeah, you look at the same thing and you get that T35 up to the ratio and you do it again, you do that again and again and again and again. That's how that whole process works. Got it. But when you get above the way I understand it, this gets into the high speed stuff. You go above 20, then it gets into the plutonium, but then they say there's a byproduct. It's not the right kind of plutonium. It requires additional refinement and so it's not like a dude is going to go up there and get a bucket and haul off and do something. It takes literally a nation-state equivalent capacity to do this. You have to control it and reprocess it. It's a big, big industrial project. It's toxic. So that's not just accidentally spinning off the weapons grade plutonium. It's like, yeah, just like uranium, not all, like uranium 238 can't use it. 235, you can use it. So it's like both of them are uranium, but so again, probably something similar with the plutonium, which is like, look, you, you might have plutonium, but it's not going to be the plutonium that's weapons grade or refined or in the concentration that you need. Well, here's number one. Little boy,

8:26Hiroshima was a uranium bomb. You can make a uranium bomb. It's just not as small as predictable. The height of the bomb that hit Nagasaki was, it was a plutonium version, an implosion bomb. It was a different. It said the uranium one, it was just a gun that shot and hit it, and that's like a critical mass. The one that hit Nagasaki was an implosion that could have massed from all the insides and it was deep. Technology is better. They weren't so sure about it. It would had a higher yield. It was like 15 kilotons and both of them were about the same. I think the Nagasaki was like 17 or something. Gotcha. These things are plutonium put out 230 kilotons, two up to 10 megatons on these beasts that the Soviets make. So that was a plutonium beast. Gotcha. So bottom line is when you're dealing with nuclear fuels, if you wanted to make something crazy, it doesn't have to be plutonium. It could still be uranium. That's not the point. The point is that we have this energy. We have this nuclear fuel that we can recycle, that we can use in a future

9:31life to make energy to give ourselves electrical independence, either through micro grids, where that would be something where you have a military base. It's like why should the military base be vulnerable and tied into a residential grid? If my power goes out, I don't want the military base to go out. Of course, you have backup generation with fossil fuels and whatnot, but if you have a bad, bad, you know, foreign actor, they'll also knock out your rail lines, which is a lot easier than you think, right? Or they'll knock out your gas lines because the gas lines, although they are largely underground, not that you couldn't dig them up. But let's say you don't want to do that, knock out their odorizing stations and the pressurizing stations that happen to exist above ground, many of which are only guarded by like a chain link fence. So you have all of these different ways that you can disturb the fossil fuel supply lines. So even in a nuclear, excuse me, in a military operation or military base, how many days of diesel do you have for your generators? Exactly. And that's what I put out in that brief. I tighten how do you diversify yourself up a cybersecurity event or EMP or whatever? Micro grids, you have

10:36recoverability, you have resiliency when you have independent grids, you don't have one big massive grid. Right. The base would have their own, you would have say an infrastructure, the water infrastructure, I advocated having a microreactor there to run the water because that's the most important thing to lose. And then you can have another one for communications transportation center. So you don't have this big grid crushing you. Micro grids are more resilient, resistant against everything and recoverable. And you have direct control that gas and all this coming in in diesel is not going to last. Where's it going to come from? Your whole whole system is going to shut down. Right. So you got to have it. That's how you recover. So you have your emergency center where the government goes out is out there at the base, the guard, and they're going to have a sub-refusion center and all the emergency facilities there and all the communication, the governors there, the generals there, and they have their own power grid and they coordinate everything from there with the power grid that's resilient and will last. If you try to do that with diesel,

11:36you're going to last for three days at best and you're not going to replenish it. How you going to replenish it from what? So it's a brilliant way to solve a problem. Every base should have their own, every critical node should have their own. And then you get outside to the data centers and so forth. They should have their own because we shouldn't be subsidizing the data center for the power because they're going to use a massive amount of power. So micro grids are the future and their EMP is another thing. You can bury these moonsault nuclear batteries that are underground. You're going to operate them remotely. They could be a hundred feet underground. And they're beautiful. And you'll guess what the Chinese do. They bury all their stuff. They're already on top and they put stuff in tunnels and their critical infrastructure stuff that they need for whatever shine amount we have. They're all underground. So their critical infrastructure stuff is already underground protected and they're planning on it. They're way ahead of us on that. We're always slow and they're building nuclear reactors right now and they're building

12:39the most lightning nuclear batteries right now. And they're doing all these things ahead of us right now as we're trying to get these executive orders that kind of opened up the door a little bit. We're still, well, what does it take three years? We build a bomb in two and a half years in World War II, three years. And it takes us three years to plan and put up a little reactor that we already have to technology for. Why? It sits there on some guy's desk for three months just to sit there as bureaucratic nonsense. If you really needed to, this stuff could happen overnight. They could be digging holes all over INL, a DOE and all that infrastructure and all that bureaucracy's crushing it. If we're or this stuff would be done, we'd have 20 of them going right now. It's frustrating. Everyone in the business sees that. But this whole thing coming up, we're trying to do with the bad agreement and try to open up reprocessing of using nuclear fuel. That's just the start. But we need to get out. There's so much opportunity. And this Idaho, our number one

13:42industry could be nuclear. It's going to crush agriculture because we're going to get this spent fuel. You could be generating ridiculous. That's going to be the important part of the supply and nuclear supply chain, which we don't have any indigenous nuclear supply or uranium. We have none. So we have to start looking forward again. We get it off from Russia and Kazakhstan and Australia. That's part of our fuel supply, a big chunk of it. Billions and billions of dollars we can make on this ridiculous amount of money. Then we start having some companies, Blackfoot, Idaho Premer technology, that won't assault nuclear battery. I'm going to Blackfoot on Tuesday. You go see, you go see Gucks there. He's the man. He's awesome. And if that dude, he gets going, he'll be building one of those. Every three days. It'll just be stupid. And that's going to be he'll be a billionaire. Probably already is right now. But it's just a great opportunity. So we're worried about taxes and all this in Idaho. We keep cutting it. Let's get some revenue. So my nuclear task force, what I need to do is I need to. What can I do as a legislature?

14:46Educate, education is where I get people trained for it. And then I got to get the public on board. So the public's not freaking out. I watched the Simpsons. You think nuclear power is the worst thing ever happened. That's what people think about nuclear power. I think people are different than that now. And they'll understand how important it is. Our future is absolutely tied to an energy requirement that is going to be up 25% by the end of the decade, 50% by 10 years from now. How? With gas, we're cutting coal plants. The nuclear is the only way to close that gap. And when you got to lean into it, we're going to lose. If we lose the AI battle China is going to own us. This is a new, this is a national security essential thing. Mike, from semiconductors to everything else, we got to have the energy we have no game. And it's urgent. It's important. Did you hear about the nuclear meltdown in France? I did not. Because it never happened. That's right. Like, how long has France been predominantly nuclear powered? Like decades.

15:47They've been reprocessing fuel for 40, 50 years. Like, they have had no problems. Three mile islands getting turned back on because I think it's Microsoft. They're like, we really need that power. They're like, well, I mean, the place still works. Just like, put the fuel in. Let's go. Like, well, the only real nuclear accident of consequence that was nuclear cause was Chernobyl. The Fukushima was a tsunami that created all the issues. It washed away all the cooling resources so they couldn't cool. That's where they had the problem. Chernobyl did not have a containment building. And they were doing some graphite and some crazy stuff completely off the charts. And they were operating it against the owner's manual. It's like, don't go police, 30% capacity, comrade. And they're like, there's a take it to 15. It was a hydrogen explosion that caused that boom. There's hydrogens. That's what happens. You get the meltdown. What happens is the zirconium starts to you start to grab all the oxygen. The hydrogen comes off as a byproduct product. And then you got this hydrogen built within the containment building and it blew

16:50it up. But they didn't have a containment building traditionally. Chernobyl was the only nuclear accident we really can put your hand your hat on. Three mile island, no one died. No one got even got sick. It's just a lot of fear there. Right. You just lost a lot of money. Yeah. That was essentially it. But the design, which was a problem with Fukushima as well, the design for through mile island, the containment worked exactly as was supposed to. No death, no contamination, no promise. It was all contained within the reactor core containment areas. And then Fukushima, you have this gigantic tsunami. You have the emergency generators that are front facing out to the ocean. Those generators get blown up so they can't keep cooling things off. They move things closer down to the water to be more efficient instead of having things farther away. That's a problem. There was also a revision to the reactor and stored, excuse me, ventilation system that GE told them to do that they didn't do. So you got built up of gas inside the containment. And then even once they started pumping water through everything, they didn't kill all the rodents.

17:51So a week after they get things cooling off, the rats chew through the wires and everything shuts down again. I didn't know that. Yeah. That's awesome. Thank you. And all of this is like, okay, just don't do that. Like, let's not put our reactors with that like the right next to a shoreway, we could get us, okay, don't do that, right? Yeah, man, that stuff. No, it freaks me out. I'm excited. This is the power. I'm going to be too old before it actually strikes. Maybe not. You think so? Well, I think if we got, we're supposed to go critical in like four months. Yeah. But I mean, the opportunity here is ridiculous. And we don't have the money as a state to subsidize Texas is offered 300 million for those guys. 300 million. We're over here going. We got INL. So we pick our strengths, reprocessing micro reactors. Everyone else is doing it too. We need a rock and roll and our governor's on this and we need to really help him and get everybody on board.

18:53This, the thing that really resonates is this is we could get rid of state income tax, which is storing this, this spending to fuel temporarily as we reprocess it and make billions of dollars. And eventually, there will be a remnant that will have to be stored in the long-term storage facility. It's not going to be an Idaho. It has to go somewhere else. The bad agreement was specific about that. We don't take any long-term storage, but we can still process it. We can. This is what we're trying to do with the bad agreement. As we can bring this fuel in and say, oh, we're bringing all this. It's not waste. We're bringing in money. And we're going to reprocess money to make more money. It's not waste. It's a bunch of money ready to be made. We're going to take it here. We're going to make a whole bunch of money of it. Eventually, we're going to send this to Yucca Mountain or something. But the amount of waste will drop. It's like 90%, 90%. Literally. So the mass comes down to so much less that has to be stored in that long-term storage facility wherever that will be. And it's not going to be an

19:53Idaho. We're not in the right place. You like in and out? No, I don't go there. How dare you? Okay. Well, listen, I like in and out. But it's literally analogous to getting a thing of French fries from in and out into the car. And somebody's like, you're bringing trash into the car. You might think it's trash. My point is that it's like, no, no, no. I'm going to eat the French fries and then throw away the trash. But you got to bring everything into the vehicle they're like, well, you're bringing in container. I'm like, I know, but I'm going to get rid of it. I just have to get the value out of it first. And I'm going to hook it out the window. Just kidding. There you go. It's going to go in the trash can. But that's essentially what it is, which is look. Yes, there is a portion of the fuel that is destined to be recycled. There's a portion of that that ultimately we cannot and should not keep in our state. But we're going to mind the crap out of it and get everything else. It's a value out of it. Before we then take the last waste product and say, no, get the hell out of here. You can go to Yucca Mountain for all I care. Here's something we did mention NRF, Naval Reactor Facility, all the spent use nuclear fuel from

20:56all the Navy reactors since the beginning of the Nautilus are stored right there at INL. That stuff is at the enrichment level above 90%, 96%, 97%. So you basically dilute that. It's worth ridiculous amount of money. We didn't include that in the equation. So we have enough ridiculous amount of resources there. This reprocessing, I just can't even get my arms around it. The trillions, trillions. We're not talking billions. We're going to charge billions to store it. It's like, really, hey, I'm going to store your money and you're going to pay me for a store and then I'm going to spend that money. You try to do the analogy. It's insane. I drool when I talk about it. Oh my god. Well, don't do that. The distinction between the naval cores and the commercial cores. So if this is a fuel rod, okay. In a commercial core, you only have of this entire fuel rod, 5% of that being the uranium 235. Now when of that 5%, we use 3%. So we're down to, I don't

21:59know, 4.85. Okay. So we use 3% 4.85 of still 235 is good. We yank this and we're like, you're gone. But the rod that just got sent away has 4.85% of it still usable 235 that we need to recycle and do something with. But when you talk about the naval fuel, it's not the bottom 5%. It's literally 90% of this is usable fuel and they use a certain portion of that very small again for consistency purposes and then hook that. So you might have this entire rod at 88% or about that's actually usable 235 and then they're like, I'd a host store this and you're like, okay, no problem. So we take it. So this, this naval fuel supply, the stuff waiting to be recycled compared to the commercial fuel supply, this is so much more valuable because of the refinement initially. This is bizarre and I went, I saw them. They're these big cement containers all

23:00stored in a warehouse. I walked right by them. There's no radiation. It's not a problem. They seem sure they're good to go. And the reason why the Navy actually explained it to me and Richard explained it's been actually several times is they have to have the full amount because they can't run out of gas put it this way. Sure. So they're, they, these ones now that they're putting in these submarines, they're going to last for 40 years. So when they, when the summer in 40 years, they just scrap the whole thing because they've been trying to try to put the reactor and put a new one in. They did that at the enterprise. It just cost a ridiculous money. My favorite carrier, my first carrier, you know, I served down as an emissary. They just retired that thing like this year. And so they're going to have to take the reactor out of that and all that. But there's a tremendous resource. It's, it's pretty cool. And no one's giving me a good answer on that because that's giving you a good answer on what? Because how they're going to do it because they're not used to diluting it. They had to dilute it. I mean, instead of refining it, they got to dilute it. It's too much. So it's like how they're going to do that. They can do it. It's probably the same thing. They probably throw it in the same reprocessing and they, and they'll do the whole separation

24:03again and get the, the, the percent they want for commercial. Hey, Lou goes up to like nine or 19% or whatever they can use that for different smaller reactors. And there's different technologies. And it's, it's the big lightwater reactors we're talking about. We're still going to use those at one gig. But that's, that's, we're not going to have a lot of those because they're so big and hard and takes so long to build. You can get some of these smaller reactors that are hanging around, you know, say, two, three hundred or something like that. That's a pretty good size. That's what we could use out here at micron. Right. Right. Right. The, the major two or three hundred megawatts plus any of the lightwater reactors is like, you just, we're already bad on our water supply. Right. Well, I don't want to say bad. But we're already utilizing it as much as humanly possible. It's not like we have water rights just like float around. So we're going to have to let more of our aglan go or you're going to have to buy the water rights somewhere else. You know, like the problem over in Elmore County right now, we're just like the aquifers going, the air force base had to grab water rights out of the snake river from Simplot. The, the residential has nowhere to go. They're

25:08depleting the water rights and some places up to two, the, it's not they're depleting water rights. They're depleting the aquifer in some places up to two feet per year. They're not recharging it. Say you got a hundred foot or two hundred foot, you know, a pipe going down for your well. Okay, great. Two foot a year. You don't have that much longer, man. Like you know, like maybe right, right. And then they're trying to get water rights off of the Anderson Ranch Dam. That's only going to have water rights that they can give every couple of years. Like it's a trend. We already don't have places for our residential expansion because we don't have water to supply that. So the idea that you're going to get like a light water reactor, be it pressurized or boiling water. It's like, dude, like just stop. Just like we use the, use the batteries, use the, you know, critical CO2. They're going to use salt, molten, there's all those different things. It's a whole black star, which is awesome. There's all kinds of goods that they can solve this problem. Yeah, man, we're going to solve this. I wish I was 15 years younger, you know, it's this because this is going to be really cool. It really is. Yeah. It's going to rock. Yeah. And I'm going to be just

26:13turning my wheelchair. Oh, my goodness. It's going to be, it's cool. It's going to be great. I'm super stoked on it. And we got your leadership to make it happen. You, that's a big one. And again, I really want, thank you for taking the time to chat about this. But you also have some other bills, specifically like the reactor bill. Yeah. Yeah. I pick. Tell me about the back. I like to pick on stuff that's so I can get a lot of abuse. But the reason why I picked these bills is, say, why I get to this feedback? Why do you care about these social issues? Why fix the budget? Well, the budget is being fixed. These social issues, I came from the very time I was in the military. And I told you why did you join this? Because all this chaos. And when the people are coming into the military, they hack at it. And it's partly because what's happening at home and in the families. And we need to bring ourselves back to some sense of patriotism. It's in the 30% when I was a kid, it's probably 90%. Only 75% of these kids can't even qualify physically and mentally and with drugs. So the society is challenged. So we have to fix the family. We have to fix the community

27:15and this chaos that you're seeing. It's the culture issues matter. I think they're really important because it's, I call them all, they're all subspecies of the Marxist movement, all these radical things. It's all, I'm a victim. I'm a bigger victim. I'm more a victim. I'm going to do this. I'm going to push this. I'm going to poke you every way. Everybody hates it. Everybody. So I try to bring these things back. Whatever is divisive, particularly flags. And if it's the bathroom bill, I mean, dudes going in to take showers with your 16 year old daughter at the gym is a problem. And they're trying to convince me that it's not a problem. That's ridiculous. How do I have to argue that? I do. So they try to find every way. It's totally fine. If we don't let these guys do this, they'll feel bad about themselves and they'll go commit suicide. Really? So that's what we're doing here. We're going to, these guys have to go, you know, swing their junk around in front of my daughter. So they feel like they're a woman. And how, how is insane? It's literally insane.

28:15If I may say something, that is what our country watched. Right? Riley Gaines came here. What you're describing literally happened with her. She's a young woman in her early 20s, college athlete. And she had to change in this room with the person swimming against her, who happened to be like a six foot six dude. I mean, so as absurd as this is, the country watched someone go through this. And like, I'm not saying that's the only one. I'm not saying that she got attacked. What I am saying is the situation that people think is laughable and absurd. Everyone knew it happened. And not like Riley Gaines herself was vilified for speaking out against it. She's like, I don't like this. This is not right. I shouldn't have to go through this. She spoke at a, I think it was a San Francisco state. And they like kidnapped her. They were, there were student groups that came and literally like, I don't want to say it held

29:16hostage, but they like locked the doors and they wouldn't let anybody in and the campus security like had to give them, you know, like meal cards or something to like let it all like blow over and let Riley go. I remember that. Like what? That's so again, I know we're not there. And I know that situation didn't happen in Idaho. But for people that say like, oh, this isn't necessary. It's like, okay, that's fine. I'm not telling you you're wrong. But can we just at least get on the same page with the facts that these are events that have transpired within our nation? The people that were saying that they were hurt by this were vilified. And they're like, that is something that we have to contend with as a nation, perhaps as a nation or individual states. I don't know how it works. But like, that's a thing. Well, I think this, I say the sled is slide, slide too far to the left. We just to think that we even have to talk about this. It's really nutty. I mean, it's not rational. There's no way it's, it's, it's just completely insane

30:17to think that man, I'm a, I'm a woman. And these ones, these are really militant ones. If you question their pronoun, they'll freak out on you. They can scream at you. They'll go and you try to challenge one of them in the restroom. What are you doing in here with my daughter? I'm a woman. You're going to have a fight. So a dad, this is what we talked about. You allow this to happen. What's going to happen is everyone's going to pull their kids out of all these places because they're not going to be protected. Or dads are going to go in there and finish this. Because no dad, I, I, in front of this in the house, I said, repeating it again, some dudes rolling in into the restroom and actually into the changing room in the shower with your six-year-old daughter. And he's a 35 year old dude who's dressed in a dress. And you think that's okay. No one tried to say it was okay. They distracted. Oh, it's going to cost businesses all this money. There's no way someone in a straight face says, I think it's fine for my friend who, you know, swinging dick is going to go rolling in to where my daughter's taking a shower. And you're going to convince me

31:21that's right. There's no man in the world is going to put up with that. A man is worth anything. That's, that's, it's insane that I have to even answer that. And it's, that's when you know politically you lost it. We gave that particular agenda way too much leverage. And they shouldn't have that kind of leverage. If you have a mental illness and you have a delusion, you want to go do this, do it fine. Get out of my face and don't do it with my daughter and my wife or, or anybody else, you know, whoever that is. And, and just, it's my mother, just pick who you're going to go down the list. And most, most importantly, your little girl. So that's the, the whole idea is to protect the most vulnerable in the place where they are most vulnerable. And they're going to say, I don't care what your issues where are with your most vulnerable. That is nonsensical. And it gets me fired up because it's so ridiculous that we have to answer that. So we do need to fix this. And they want to do that thing. That's fine. There's reasonable accommodations. You can go to a single stall. You can find places you can do your thing. The reality too is, are you going to

32:24be able to enforce it completely? No, because there's, there's transgender women that look like women. You never know. They'll go in there in the restroom. You'll never know. You only know when they go in the shower, so forth. So there's very specific threat places. The bathroom aren't so bad. And if you're standing in front of the mirror, you know, and you're, you know, and you're dude and you start messing around and maybe it would be uncomfortable. But I don't see the restroom itself being such a problem. It will go unanswered to no one will know the difference. I would have to agree with that. But it's the, the big restrooms or the big, big restrooms, big gyms, big locker rooms, planet fitness, YMCA where I got all the complaints from. And oh, by the way, I just got a complaint from a friend of mine. She's retired. Police officer. And she was a murder detective. Murdered detective. And so she had an incident in Albertsons, you know, it was a bolt-tie stall. And there was someone in the, in the stall at pink shoes or something like that. She, there's a confrontation that happened. And she comes out and she's freaking out. What are you doing

33:25in here? She was very uncomfortable and very scared. That was a situation. It's really difficult. How do you protect her? Because she's alone here with that, that person. So now it becomes, it's almost like an assault you and I get in a fight. And, and I said, you started to fight, but we don't have any way to prove it. It's kind of like, it's what happened in there. Where's the problem? That's when regular law kits in. And with, with your friend, she was in the stall. She, she was actually next and got, came out and she's going to testify. The next time comes out. And what happened is she was really scared. You know, she's tough. And, and this dude come out, swearing at her and saying stuff and she's not confronting her. And I think she, she says something. What are you doing in here? And that's the, that's when they get mad. When you say, what do you mean? I'm a woman. No, you're not. You're a dude with interest. So, you know, so she was in the bathroom, somebody in the stall next to her was a, was a man. Is there for a while? She was in there when she got in and there's, and then he, she comes out, he comes out at the same time. And then she's saying, what the hell are you doing in here? He gets aggravated.

34:29And then there's, there's all parsing it out. He said, she said, so she leaves the bathroom, those to somebody within the, within the company she were, or whatever the store were, she was, Albertsons. And then it's, he did this. And then the other dude saying, she's super hard to prove. So that's the problem because the burden of proof is pretty high. But if it happened in with a bunch of people in there, you can't take pictures and stuff. Then if it's a big confrontation, just like a fight. It's like, we have a fight. Where's that a fight until someone saw it? Unless we're bloody and got something to prove. It's the same similar situation. They're saying, well, we're going to be liable. No, Albertsons is not liable for that. If they have a, if this new law, they put women, men's signs, women's signs, and the policy is we don't allow it, their job is done. So what happens in there if someone refuses to follow the law, they can't prevent that. And they're saying, oh, then you call a law enforcement. And then it's, then it's, then it's, then it's, if it becomes an issue, then it's like, here's the analogy. If there's, if you're down in the, you know, in the meat aisle, and there's someone screaming,

35:29yelling each other and fighting, it's the same thing. You're going to respond the same way. You're going to call the police. It's the same situation. So the detractors that don't want to say it's okay for dudes, addresses to hang out with your daughter in the restroom in the shower. They can't say that because it's ludicrous to even open your mouth. So they're, oh, it's going to kill businesses. No, that's all a distraction. It's not. Most small businesses have independent stalls. Every coffee shop has, you know, sex one, and you close your door lock it, solves all your problems, transgenders, whatever. You're done. Don't have to worry about it. There's no issue. When you have these larger stalls and stuff, then it's a problem. But then there's frequently a family one that's a, that's a reasonable accommodation and go over there. So everyone's taken care of, and we're not going to change the whole world for one dude who wants to go in and into the woman's shower or whatever. So if there are regional alternatives, the big companies are, they're not going to have to do anything different. They're just going to have this is them, this is a man's room, this is a woman's, and the policy. But the thing that killed YMCA,

36:32the dad comes up and complains in YMCA, that's okay. Our policy allows that. Wait, what are you talking about? I'm not familiar with the story. What happened? This happened over two years ago. They called me, and I was doing the bathroom bill for the, for the schools, and they called me. So what can we do? I can do nothing for you. Okay. So a family had an experience at the YMCA, where a daughter or a son, like a daughter. Okay. So a daughter is in the women's change room, and there is a biological male that goes into the change room and proceeds to use it as a change room. And the daughter comes out and says, Dad, there's a dude in there. He goes to the YMCA and says, Hey, guys, this is my daughter. She was just in the women's change room. There's a man in there. And the YMCA responds with what? The policy is, that's okay. Okay. Yeah. So this family calls you, and they say, rap hill, holy cow, this just happened. And you tell them, I'm sorry, because there's nothing I can do for you right now. This, and that was over almost

37:35three years ago now. And you know, with this, how they saw that problem, their daughter isn't going anymore. That would be, that's not fair. So I can't, I can't protect my daughter. She's not going in there anymore. That solved the problem. So she's in there by himself. I guess that solves the problem. I got two calls on that. Actually, that happened down at Planet Fitness in California. So it doesn't happen a lot. I don't think it happens a whole bunch. But I think that if it happens once, it's too much. It's kind of like, well, there's not only 32 murders. Why do we worry about murder? It's not that bad, you know, whatever. I say no. If there's three events, four events, five events, there'll be more, especially if we enable it, you know, for sure. Right now, it's, it's, you know, I don't think it's going to be a massive impact on a big chunk because most businesses are not going to, it's not going to impact them. It really is not. I think it's going to affect the big gyms and the, and the pools and things where they have lots of people. And because you're going to, we had a person come in that had, but was a female had a beard. Well, I'm biologically a woman. She goes into the woman's vestibular. I don't know. That's, that's

38:39going to freak people out. She goes into the man's bathroom. It's not the same. Then our threatened, you know, I said, I got it. Who comes in there? No one's going to threaten me except you. Oh, yeah. But it's that right. But I see where you come from. Yeah. But you know, it's that that's not a problem. Yes, it's not a problem. But, but your little girl, you know, and you're standing there, she's combing her hair and a dude's packing his junk and stuff and doing his stuff her in front of the mirror. Come on. I mean, that's, that's, I can't even get my arms around that. That that's even okay. And the politics of that, they're trying to say it's equal opportunity, equal protection. Okay, well, there's, there's that that's where we'll have that reason of accommodation. And this is important. This, we're fighting for the culture and the sanity. This is the line, you know, no more of this nonsense. And every single dad is going to just cheer me on. Every dad is going to go, yeah. And that's important. And, and, and I, I don't know if

39:42it's going to get worse or it's kind of stabilized. Is it some people say it's not a really big deal? I would say most of the time it probably is not. Like I said, really feminine men, no one's going to know if they go in independent style, they're going to go, no one will know. That's not where this law is going to ever make an impact. We're not going to sit there and take IDs or anything. They just go in. No, they're going to, if they want to do that, it's only going to be a problem. If you're a dude and you go in, you cause a problem. And then you're going to be in there. And then there's a problem. There's then there's then there's that you have a law. Well, the law is right now. There's like I said, there's not a lot that keeps men that forces men to go into any restroom. I can go into women's restroom right now. It's not against the law. It's culturally bad. It's not against the law. So, okay, so what's the recourse then? Because that's the question. Because there was, you passed a flag bell last year and boycy switched or declared one of their flags that people liked. They're like, we've flown this all the time. We passed a law. Councilman Lucy, councilwoman Lucy Willetz was the only one that dissented in the vote.

40:48But they passed that. But again, no recourse, right? So, it's not like there was anything saying, okay, you can, you're going to be fine $10,000 or like we can arrest this person or whatever. What for the bathroom bill, what would the recourse be if somebody broke that law? Well, we have a government chapter and then we have the public accommodations chapter. The government chapter is a little bit more severe. And that's the government purposely. They have a policy too. Women's Ben's policy. If someone refuses to follow the policy, someone with boycy would do, it's exactly what boycy would do. $10,000. That's, that could be the fine if they refuse to follow the policy. Again, and that's, I can almost predict boycy will do that. They always give the middle finger to the legislature everywhere, everywhere they can. They will try to do that. Well, boy, she's not going to do it now. If they're going to do that and the rest of the state. And that's that government piece is not going to be a problem. It's a capital building. We have men's, women's, all kinds of restrooms. People were fine. Okay, so what, but say there's Brian and Brian decides he wants to go into the group. So if the, if the, if the organization like say, you

41:52know, Matt's gym, Matt's gym's like, man, I'm not putting up these signs or I'm not, I'm not going to say this. I'm not going to do my pieces in organization. There's a fine for them. But say they do their piece. They're like, we put up the sign, only women and only men and, you know, family or whatever over there. And Brian's like, you know what, dude, I'm going in there anyway. Now, the, the company has, has done their part. Say Brian goes in, what does he get charged with? Like what's the law? Was it a misdemeanor? Is it? It's what ever happens in there at this point. So it could be technically like looting and decent. Like you took your, you took your dick out in front of a six-year-old girl that's going to charge you. That's the crime separate. And, and the company's not responsible for that. Got it. They're responsible for having a policy. Whatever happens in there, they can't control that. They're not going to guard the doors. They're not responsible to do that. It's called the reasonable care and no burdensome effort. So it's all a tort law. The way it explains to me is like, when you have ice on the stairs, you throw some, you know, you throw some sand on it and you reasonable care. Sure. Well, what these, these Democrats are saying, well, we got to make this, well, that would be like, okay, we need

42:55to sweep this, have a, have a rail and people attending and make sure you go down the stairs. That's the level. They, well, that's not, that's a burdensome. That's not reasonable care. Got you. They go to this insane level. We got to have guards and DNA checks. No, you do not. The sign is there. The policy is there. That's reasonable care. That's reasonable duty required. Got you. And they can't be burdensome and it's super easy. They're trying to make it something different. So as far as the company goes, they will be able to accommodate this very easily. Easily. They're trying to distract. Whoever the individual is that breaks the law will not be able to hide behind or add or at least a ledge that they were following the company policy. It's like, no, the company policy was not to this. So we are actually calling the police and the police won't handle you accordingly based on whatever it is you did in there. Well, here's a sample. So how could the company be responsible? If I go down the, the aisle where the cookies and stuff are and I just, you know, pull my junk out in front of some woman or a pusher or a isolter, they're not responsible for that. Sure. Well, they should have checked his DNA and

43:56checked his ass and checked. That's how silly it is when they go to this restroom because they wanted to distract from the reality. They want to allow dudes to go in the bathroom with your girls. They just don't want to admit it. It's just twisted. And all this distraction is crap. If you, if you have multi stalls and you're concerned, you could put a lock on it and have it in single stalls. Single stalls stalls all the problems because you have reasonable accommodation, man, women, everything. Every single coffee store I go to has independent, you know, unisex lock, perfect. Sure. And most restaurants do some have two, two stalls, but most do not. And that's, that's not a problem. They still, they can still have that. The reason we care, they put the sign there, the policies in place. They're not responsible dudes go in there. Now, there's a, there's Mr. Cornell razor. He's doing a bill. If you know only do that, he wants to put it as a crime. So right now, it's not a crime. I could, I could follow anybody. I can follow the woman to the restroom until I want. You know, I can, there's, oh, I get what you're saying. So

44:58your law is just to, to, to, to compel or companies to make policies and, um, reasonable accommodation and public, uh, notice essentially, right, which we already have, we have signs. Okay. But core, you said Cornell razor. Okay. He's a Idaho rep. Yeah. Okay. I've never had the pleasure of my apologies. It's good to do. He's got a good bill. Um, and he's saying, okay, representative Hills taking care of this, where like the companies have to comply with this notice and have a policy in place. But I, I'm going to make an actual crime. So if you do this, it's not just that you're breaking company policy. You've broken a law. This is a misdemeanor. It's a felony or it's a whatever you want. It doesn't matter. But you've, you've broken a law here in Idaho. So then even if you, then the company can be like, okay, we're calling the police because you're breaking the law. Got it. Okay. And so this whole fear is just BS. It's total crap. Total crap. And this got to remember, it's not the law now. I can follow all my Democrat compatriots in there. They say it

46:03doesn't matter. I guarantee it's going to matter if I follow them in the restroom. It's legal. But when it's not legal, it will be this is the first time it's put in code that you go into the restroom of your biological sex. I can't believe we had to make a law. We've been doing that for, for at least a less 150 years where we had restaurants that are marked, you know, it's, it's, it was expected to be rational. And that's what we're trying to do. We're just trying to make this reasonable. So whenever you hear about this fear and about all the tort, it's all a distraction. They just want it to get it through. And then Cornell's is a whole different thing. That's going to be a, that's going to be a higher level of trying to prove that. But it's same, it's the same thing as you push somebody into the, into the milk cartons, you know, it's an assault. So if you come in, you know, here are the people that, that, that me too group, oh women, women protect women, you know what? They are protected women for shit. It seems like I'm doing all the women protection. I'm thinking I'm trying to protect women. I'm trying to protect young girls and they don't care. I'm like, why? I thought you were all this kind of taking care of it. They're not. If

47:09you're going to play the me too thing, then why don't you step up and protect your women that are the most vulnerable young girls. So they, they have no, the no credibility in that discussion. When you have me, the Republican guy is trying to protect the women against sexual assault in restrooms and they don't care. How's that? So that's really what this frustrates me in this whole thing. Why am I the one stepping up and doing this? I'm a man, you know, why, you know, why, why is this the way it is? And it goes because I think it's as a Neanderthal old, hyper, hyper ridiculous, whatever I am. My duty is to protect the weak. My duty is to be the sheep dog and keep the bad guys and the wolves away from who needs to protect, protect the women, protect my children, protect my family. And so that is an intense requirement for you and me as to sheep dog, badass

48:09type of guys. You don't put up any shit. You know, we're going to go, we're going to, we want to protect this. We want to do something about that. It's normal for guys like us and we should make it so. And and I think there's a lot of men when I went and talked around some of the reps that were in the hallway and their responses from them. I'm like, oh, it was, they wanted, they wanted it. They were going to kick some butt. Every single one of them was angry when I brought up that situation. So that's where we're at. It's highly charged. We're representative hell. I couldn't. And I kept by language somewhat controlled. You did better than I did. I definitely said dick at least once. Listen, I want to talk to you about more bills. I've had you here too long. Is there anything you want to hear who real fast at the end? The flag bill go. That started out because McLean refused to follow the law. I jumped into it. We're going to get that going. I'm going to do general orders on Friday. There was a controversy over the bass flag,

49:12the bass flag. I had to remove because the Democrat compatriots say we had to remove because it was an inconsistent. And I took a ridiculous amount of grief for that from the bass community. And I wanted it in there. So I got it back. I was able to get it, you know, get some angles. The bass flags back. And then we have some cutouts for the streets, street poles and light poles they can put different flags on. For like a horseshoe band, like celebrating seniors and stuff. Yeah. The whole objective here is it's we're trying to make the primary centerpiece of your government not portraying anything that's political religious or ideological. If they do, you're endorsing that. So if I am the mayor of Eagle and I put up the Christian flag every day, is that cool? And it's not. It's cool for me. It's cool. I'm just going to question it. Everyone else is mad. That's not cool. Put the flag up. Well, that's not cool. So it has to be something that is not like that. And that's the whole objective. And they're trying to say, oh, you're picking on the pride flag. Well, should the pride flag be up there 365 years all the time

50:17with the American flag? Is that fair? It's not. Well, it represents our inclusivity. Well, it does include 98% of the people. So it's not really a pride flag thing at all. It just became a point where we wanted to make it fair for everybody. And if you had, if you changed the flag every day, we wouldn't be talking about this right now. That would be that would solve the problem. But that happened in Boston. They had a American flag, state flag, political flag, or the the community flag. Well, this a Christian group says, hey, what we want to flag? And they said, no, they shut that down. Supreme Court 909. Oh, shut that down because they were selective. So that Supreme Court case kind of defends that point. Because you know, there's one political ideological. And I would say religious. And that is, you know, if you're going to put up whatever that is, the state and flag or whatever, it's not okay. And that's kind of the gist of it. It's very fair. And people are going to say it's anti pride. No, you guys kid a month. And you get the

51:21flag pole, the American flag, you get the same priorities of the American flag for all year. I think that's probably a little bit more than it's okay. So let's disgate it back to something semblance. So everyone gets a piece of the action. They were going to put the Navy flag up once for me. So it's, it's, it's a fair piece. It's, I don't, there'll be people complaining and saying it's anti pride. No, it's, it's anti prioritization of a particular group. Cause what happens with a new mayor comes in and they're a MAGA or something. And they put the MAGA flag up there. People would be freaking out. That would not be okay. I'm not going to support that either. I not support any of those kind of flags that are divisive. That's a divisive flag. The, the ghast and flag that, you know, don't try to mean all those things. No, none of those things are okay. This is how you bring it together. We refocus on the American flag. And that's, that's the focus. And that's where we need to go back to and get rid of all this nonsense. God bless the man. Yeah. Listen, thank you for coming on. Yeah, I appreciate the work you're doing.

52:25Let's do it again. Yeah. Yeah.