NFL Week 1 Start Sit Advice | Old-Fashioned Football (Ep. 247)

0:00Old fashioned football in the sports gambling podcast. Heracles brought to you by the free-rolled football contest. $3,000 is up for grabs and ends today. You got to get signed up by today. Enter today at sports gambling podcast.com slash free roll. Hey, what's up? This is Sam Machino and you're listening to Old Fashion Football. You're welcome to Old Fashion Football. We got games tonight. We have a football game tonight.

1:01I hope your lineups are set because that's what we're talking about. Start sits. If you're wondering who you listen to, this is Jay Mark. You can find me on the exit. Jay Mark football. If you're wondering who us is, that's Old Fashion FB. Before I keep going, I got to introduce my coach on the pod end in life. You can find her on the exit. The Mer. Mark. Mer, how are you doing today? Doing great. Really excited for football tonight. Me too. Me too. You know, not crazy about either of these teams, but it's a super bowl rematch and it's football. So we love football. I did want to tell a quick story. We use, we pull a transcript to pull our YouTube kind of description, break down our timelines, everything. And the AI is the thing that puts together like what the time coding and everything is. And the AI apparently thought the Mer, Mark was actually me saying Meredith. It's a Jay Mark and Meredith. So not sure if that's Meredith from the office or what. Anyways, we, yeah, we're talking starts it's if you if you pop on here and the live show,

2:08drop your questions in the chat. We will get to them. Otherwise we have some stuff we we're going to get to. I see one already Ruben will check that in a second. Before we do, you want to preview next week, just a little bit? Yeah, basically that you're not asking me what we're drinking today. Yeah, what are we drinking today? No, join us next Thursday when we are finally bringing the whiskey back. We'll be going live at 5 p.m. Central, where we'll be reviewing Keepers Heart Irish Bourbon followed by next week's next week starts sit week two show. That's a mouthful. Yeah. And we'll get a mouthful of whiskey. We need to have, you know, like the isn't that Justin Timber that I'm bringing sexy back. We need a whiskey back. So for that. Absolutely. And again, Ruben will get to you one second. I just want to let everybody know real quick that you got to sign up for the free roll football contest. It's back.

3:08This is the last day to sign up. I believe pick every game against a spread for a chance to win up to $4,000. Center today at sports gambling podcast.com. S I Sh free roll. No, forget that SGPN gives back. We're continuing to help the ongoing effort to rebuild Columbia. Go to sports gambling podcast.com slash relief to help today. All right. We have our first question. It is from if I could figure out where I'm clicking here. Ruben 2219 wants to know if he should start at flex. J Mo. So James and Williams. Christian Watson or Jalen Coker. I got to tell you I just don't trust Christian Watson. I know I know he's a packer player. So you can say because I'm a bear's fan as you see me wearing the sea on my chest. You could say that that's just some. I don't know some bias, but I just don't. I don't know. I don't trust his hamstrings. I don't trust that he's going to be the guy. I think he'll be good for maybe one or two big plays, but that's about it.

4:09James and Williams. You like James and Williams. You've drafted him in a lot of leagues. I have. Yes. I do like him. I think that offense has, you know, they have been on fire not as much since. Ben Johnson left and came over to the bears. Yeah. But I do, you know, I like my James and Williams. I think James and Williams will give you a solid floor. I think that he's reliable. Yeah. And he will be going against the Saints. Now, I know this is last year's stats, but they were six best against the wide receiver. So that makes me a little bit nervous. And then you got Jalen Coker, who I think is really intriguing, especially because I'm worried on how the bear's secondary is going to look right away. And so I think coaker gets some yards. I think Jalen Johnson, who's a very good cornerback, will shut Tet Mcmillan down. I think he will limit Tet Mcmillan, which means somebody's got to get the ball and Jalen Coker. So what do you do? I'm really stuck between James and Williams and Jalen Coker.

5:10I think if you need a safe floor, Coker is the guy. But I do think James and Williams has a higher ceiling because we saw some big playability, big touchdowns long touchdowns. So that's going to you agree you agreed with that. Yeah, I guess I can agree with you there. Thanks for checking in, Ruben. I always hate saying this, but don't forget to give a thumbs up. That helps us subscribe all that stuff. We hear every week giving you our start sits. Now if anybody else has any drop them in otherwise, we already have some players ruled out. Yes, someone within though. I mean, that's good. But yeah, we shouldn't quickly go over this list here. Just so people are aware if they don't already know, Trevor and Henderson is out. Rock Bowers has been ruled out. Aaron Donnell is out. Players who are in their healthy, their starting Kyle Menungai, Kenyans Adi. Lucer Burton, Sam Laporta. Tucker Kraft, but we're not sure if he'll be limited, but he has expected to play.

6:11Yeah, I heard he's been in pads and practice and been practicing as his normal. But you never know when a guy's coming back from a leg injury like that. The same thing with George Kittle. Kittle. They sometimes keep him on a snap count while they kind of get used to their body taking those hits again. I don't think Kittle was ever. There's never out, but like I think that he is to he should probably be on this list. He's not on our list here, but he'll be on a limited. Yeah, might be on a limited snap count. We did mention him yesterday in our beds episodes or if you're better, make sure you check that out. Because they were planning for this weekend, not just for the next two games here. One other I saw a question, more Alec Pierce. He's been just dealing with an injury that they've been kind of, I don't know, they haven't been real clear on what is bothering him, which makes me think he's going to miss week one. Just what I think. Just just for anyone who has Alec Pierce, be on the lookout.

7:11Yeah, but below. So below, be on the lookout. I wanted to talk about some rookies real quick. Because one of the biggest questions that I see every year is, oh, should I start this guy that is a rookie in week one. Yeah. So let's break down some of the top ones. There are four that are relevant. There are two others you can make the biggest one right now is Jeremiah love. Yeah. And I'd like us to start with him because there's, I guess there's kind of some recent drama with the death chart piece, but go ahead. I'll let you lead the way. Well, first like we all, I guess I'll address that. We've recently heard, you know, Tyler Algier will be the starting running back. Yeah. And we kind of agree that we think it'll be kind of more 50 50. Yeah. They didn't they didn't take that. Or kind of right the hot hands. But 50 50 and then plus a tough defense because they play the chargers. Yeah. Who were fourth, the fourth best team against the run as far as fantasy points went last year.

8:15Yeah. I, this is tough because I mean, he's the brand new shiny toy. He is, he was like the one and one and all dynasty leases. Yes. If you drafted, if you drafted Jeremiah love. You probably took him in an early round or paid a high price for him in auction leagues. Which I know I did. Which you did. Yeah. So sitting him in week one or even contemplating that was likely painful because I'm in pain over here. And yeah, I, I think I think you take him. You can't afford to bang on him not putting up decent numbers. Yeah. I think you, you're right. You probably have to start him based on where he went in the draft. But I wouldn't expect anything more than flex numbers in week one. I have to agree with you. I just don't know yet. We don't know. Right. Especially with the announcement of. Elzier. Yeah. Absolutely. Another interesting name which. Two, two running backs went in the first round of the draft.

9:18Both from the same team. This guy was Jeremiah or, yeah, it was Jeremiah loves back up. Yes. Jadarian prids are price. Sorry. Jadarian price for the Seahawks. I've been doing that all day when I've been thinking about. I even typed it in because I was like, what leagues do I have him in again? And I typed in prints. I'm like, where is he? Oh, wait. Anyways, Jadarian price for the Seahawks. Yeah. Yeah. And we do know he is there. Arby one. Yeah. The Patriots were the ninth best against the run last year allowing. 20.3 fantasy points per game. However, the Seahawks ran the ball very well on them in the Super Bowl. So my like got feeling is like, you have to start him, right? If you have him, you have to start him here. Yeah, I think so. Because he is their starter. And I don't know if there's anybody else that's really going to take touches away from him. If I'm if I'm being honest. Yeah. Another guy we heard a lot about. I don't like where he landed, but carnaltate of the Titans.

10:22And the Titans play the Cardinals who were the 14th best against the White receiver position last year. But we've we've talked a lot. We just don't trust this Titans offense that much. So. Trust cam ward in general. Yes. I am in agreement with you there. But if you have carnaltate and you feel like you have to start him. In a flex. Yeah. I guess you do. But I'm just not so sure on how. How it's going to shake out for him this week. Yeah. I avoided him. And I think every draft. Maybe a dynasty. Dynasty. I think that's a good idea. Yeah. Because my hope would be that either cam ward will get better or they'll get a better quarterback. But. I still and I said this. I think it was last night. One dough Robinson got brought up. I think one dough Robinson's going to perform carnaltate. At least initially. So week one. I'm leaving him on my bench. I'm not I'm not playing on these first couple of weeks. I want to see how that shakes out. Let's talk about the other. Rookie White receiver. McKay Lemon.

11:22He went to the Eagles obviously. Yes. Who play the commanders who were one of the worst teams against white receivers and fantasy football points. I do think that. McKay Lemon is going to be involved. They also have Devonta Smith. Who is their top guy. And they have Dallas. Dallas got it. Yeah. But I do think you know, let we're going to see. We're going to see. I think that. I think that. I think that. I think that. I think that. I think that. I think that. I think that. I think that. I think that. I think that. I think that. I also think that. I think that. I think that. I think that. I think that. I think that. I think that. I think that. I think that. I think that. I think, you know, let we're going to see lemon in that. You were two roll. And I think he might get a decent target share this year. Yeah, I mean, I think. I think. I think he's flex worthy. Yeah, I agree with that. I don't know. I mean, he's not going to step in and replace A J brown. I don't expect that from him. But I do think he's going to be involved enough to be. Relevant in this offense. And. And. keep bark way healthy. They need to keep them fresh. So they're going to have to pass. Yes. Um, so yeah, I know the Eagles fans are hoping they didn't draft a lemon.

12:27You get it. But I get it just anyways. Um, but yeah, I agree with you. I'm starting lemon. Um, where I have to. I mean, obviously this is all subject to who else you have on your team. Obviously. Always. Yeah. Let's talk about the 49ers Ricky White receiver to John Stribling who kind of seem like, well, you could have some good playing time. But then all the sudden Ricky Peersaw goes on and reserve. And now it's like, oh, you might have a lot of playing time. Yeah. Um, and just looking at their matchup, the Rams were 23rd against the past last year, but they did upgrade their secondary. You did rock. Pertie has, we have Mike Evans, who is old has he's injury prone. Um, they've got Zibo Samuel. George, yeah, who's old. They've got George Kittle, who will likely be limited and on a snap count. So yeah, I, I wasn't so sure, before, but I think now that like, you know, we know Kittle is going to be limited. Um,

13:29again, I think this is another flex piece. And we didn't see a lot of, in the preseason, we didn't see a lot of rock pergida Stribling because it was usually the backups, throwing the ball, but Stribling did play very well in the preseason. He, he looked like he could be a dude that thrived in this offense. So it'll be interesting to see now that all the starters are out there. What happens? But I think, I think they might have found, found a little gold there. I mean, I thought, and I had mocked them to draft Denzel Boston. I thought they were going to draft him. He was ranked higher, but then they go with Stribling. So they felt good about him, obviously. Speaking of Denzel Boston, him and Casey Konsepcion, both on the Browns. I'm not speaks for itself. Yeah. The only Browns player I will start is Queen John Judgins, even though he's got a really tough running back matchup this week. But I'm not touching any of the receivers. I want no part of the Sean Watson. I'm not touching him,

14:31and I don't want him to touch me. So, yeah, I'm just I'm staying away from from the Browns players. You do. Yes. I assume. Yes. I don't have any, I didn't draft any Browns players. So I don't have to worry about that mess. Same. Not even a dynasty. I was like, no, try, try, she doesn't seem. Let's just go with other options. Try, Fred Chice. Mom's saying excited for the start of the season. Hell yeah, we are too. And so excited that we might have to run over to Edge Boost because we're brought to you by Edge Boost. The Vista debit card built for online gambling earned up to half percent cash back on eligible gaming spend $0 deposit fees plus instant 24 7 365 access to deposits that clear in minutes. No maintenance charges, no minimum balance, no hidden costs. If you ever had trouble depositing or withdrawing on an online gambling site, your bank account is messaging you, hey, we noticed a transaction. Was this you? And then you have to approve it and go back in. Don't mess around with that. You just need the Edge Boost card. Sign up for Edge Boost today at Edge Boost.io and use promo code SGPN

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16:34baseball. We know nothing about baseball, but we said, hey, Clutch Parles says these are good plays. Guess what? Both of them hit. You can get one month free with promo code SGPN. That's ClutchParles.com promo code SGPN. All right. We had some questions from the Twitter verse, which I guess is the X verse now, not the Twitter verse, but I think we should roll through those. Yeah. If you are ready, which I assume you are, since this is what you're here to do. So this one is from, and I looked at this name a while, trying to figure out how to say it, and then realized that it says no hose Isaiah. So good for you Isaiah. Stay away from them hose. However, he did have a question for his flex spot. Yeah. Giderium price or lad Maconkey. For me, it's always, it's always tricky comparing running back quite receiver, but however, I think if this is PPR, I'm going Maconkey. Only because I trust the proven commodity over the rookie in his first game. However, I think they're both startable.

17:38Yeah. But if you have to pick one, I would go with lad Maconkey. I agree with that. You hit the nail on the head there with the proven commodity main Maconkey's effect, price being the rookie. And I know it's week one for everybody, but especially these rookies, and especially this is the opening night. Do you know how many people are going to be tuned in, and you don't think that they know that like price knows. Oh my gosh. So many people are going to be tuned in. I got to make it impression. I got to do that. That's a lot on a 23 year old young man. And because of that, we don't know how he's going to perform. We don't know if he is going to shine or maybe he does get a little nervous. So I like Maconkey. And we saw a conkey some games last year where he had like 10 to 15 catches. So PPR, yeah, absolutely. Next one is from Jason Quinn, 1982. I saw a lot of questions dealing with Ramondra Stevenson, because obviously like you said, Travion Henderson out, he's wondering Ramondra Stevenson or

18:38a shul tooton at flex in half PPR. So running back versus running back here. I think I'd have to go with tooton on this one. I know Henderson is out, but Stevenson has had some fun-ling issues in the past. And I think that tooton will be a bigger part of the Jaguars offense than Stevenson will be for the Patriots. So I think on this one, I would put tooton in that flex spot. Don tooton. Oh my god, stop it with the tooton stuff. I can't with you. I agree with that. I mean, the Jags play the Browns. Last year, the Browns were 21st in the league for fantasy points, allowed to running backs. And now they don't have Miles Garrett, who was a big part of that defensive lineup, basically. So I agree with you there. I know we don't know what it's going to look like with tooton in the Jags, since he's taken over ETN spot, but I still do like it. The next one is from it's five-mart underscore, but I would read that smart underscore.

19:40Wants no Parker, Washington, or Christian Watson. Here we go with Christian Watson. Yep, Christian Watson. Christian, wow, I can't talk today. Just by fumbling his name, you hurt his hamstrings. He's got hamstrings. Oh my gosh, he's already injured. No. Um, Minnesota's defense is pretty good and will likely limit Watson. Parker, Washington is a PPR machine, or at least he was at the end of last year. I guess there's the question of if that will carry over. This could be a coin flip, honestly, but I think I've got to go with Parker Washington and you know Watson's a packer and he is like going against. No, but really, I think I would lean more towards Washington. Well, and I've said, I mean, as far as gambling, even taking the bias out of it, I have real concerns about this packer offense of line and if Jordan Love doesn't have time to throw the ball, Christian Watson can't get down the field to make those plays because he's kind of a down the field field stretching type player, not a dink and dunk dunk type player. So

20:44I have those concerns and Minnesota, the top ranked defense against the wide receivers fantasy wise last year. So yeah, I agree with you Parker Washington. I do agree with you as well that it's a coin flip is Christian Watson, the wide receiver one for the packers or is it Jaden Reed? I don't know Parker Washington, not the number one guy there, but I do think he'll be involved enough. So I guess my point there is I can see why you would, why somebody might argue Christian Watson. Yeah, I guess, I guess. Yeah. Next one is IG Bucks fan 12 with Henderson out. Would you start Stevenson over at Buka at Flex? Honestly, I think a Buka is too talented to be on the bench. Yeah, I agree. And I love the thrill of getting the first points to you know, Stevenson playing tonight, putting him in and it's like yeah, I got points already, you know, maybe I'm 10 points up, maybe has a really good game and here 20 points up, but maybe he has a dud and you're four points

21:47up and you're like, well, I'm fucked now. And I do, I just think Baker and I Buka are too good of a combo. I hate that I'm agreeing with you with everything here, but I mean, you're on your game. So I can't fault myself for agreeing with you for being on your game. I think I Buka is the good play heard Baker Mayfield by the way got extended again by the Bucks. See biggest contract in Tampa Bay history. So congrats to Baker. Yeah. Last one we have here is from Bro underscore the 45211 Mike Evans or Jalen Warren for PPR Flex. Because this is PPR, I think I'm going to go with Jalen Warren. Okay. I think he's going to be really good in PPR leagues this year. I think Mike Evans will be good for chunk plays, but I don't expect him to maybe get more than four or five catches. I, for you, said, oh yeah. That's fair. But I'm going to say just so I disagree with you

22:53on. Okay. I'm going to say Mike Evans because Mike Evans, you're right. Only catches four or five passes usually. But what does Mike Evans do? Almost guaranteed scores touchdowns. So I'm chasing those touchdowns and he is healthy this week. Maybe next couple weeks, you know, it might get a little scary when he's not healthy, but he is healthy this week. So I'm going to take Evans with the touchdown upside, not saying Jalen Warren can't score touchdowns. I think he could. He could, but Rico Doudle being their goal lineback. I do agree with you. Jalen Warren's a great PPR play, but I'm going to chase the touchdowns for this one just to disagree with you. We'll see how that one plays out for you. Well, you know, I, uh, at times, I am the underdog and speaking of underdog, let everybody know. We are brought to you by underdog fantasy. Who wants to be a millionaire this football season? Download underdog and jump into keep your million, play for free and start with a million dollars and head your bets across 20 player projection questions by splitting your

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26:01Speaking of Kate, we were talking to her about our fantasy football teams. Gave her both lineups. Yes. She said that I can't believe it bringing this up. She well, you know, I take my wins and my losses. Okay, you're taking a loss here. Yeah. And we gave her the lineups and says, you know, which team do you think's better? She said she's rooting for your team. I think it's more of a better team. Girl power type deal, maybe. Oh, no, no. But she also likes that you did draft Caleb Douglas, who is the dolphins rookie. I know we didn't talk about him, but I don't think I would start any dolphins, not named Devana Chan. But she's rooting for you because you have the dolphins, which is her team. And you also have Tony Pollard, who she's always like Tony Pollard. And she said fun fact, she was at AT&T Stadium when he scored his first NFL touchdown. And then she said that against dolphins. So it was there to see her team, but either way, she's rooting for you apparently. So

27:07we're going to have to track that this year. Yeah, we're going to have to see. Of course, you always track it anyway. We do that anyways. Yeah, absolutely. Again, if you have any start-set questions, drop them in the chat, but we've got a couple more that I saw these flying around the internet a lot. These are some of the most asked questions. So well, real quick, before we get to that, Skataboo or Menongay, you have an opinion on this because I'm ready to fire off. Fire off then. Okay, so you guys all know I love me some Kalmanungay. But Skataboo. But Kalmanungay is technically the RB2 behind Dandar Swift. They're not going to get Swift off the field all the time. And Skataboo's got a chokehold on that RB1 spot. So because of that and because they go against Dallas, which is yeah, their defense should be improved, but it struggled a lot last year. I got to go with Skat. I would go with Skataboo too. All right, we are in agreement far too much.

28:12Well, what's going on? Something must be in the air. So a couple of... I didn't agree with a lot of your bets though. Well, they go. It was three and three. 50 percent. You agree with 50 percent. It's still a fail. It's still a fail. Defends who you ask. In betting, if you hit 50 percent of your bets, your break and even. Okay, wait. Or make it money if they're plus money. Well, we'll see. All right, first one. Get back into these questions. Sit or start, Martian Lloyd. And we kind of talked about this yesterday. And this is tough because we have no idea how that backfill will look without Josh Jacobs. It would seem as if he's the one that will be getting the majority of the work. And he's shown flashes when healthy before. So I think at least for this week, he's startable. I know that Caleb Johnson has been brought up in the conversations as well. But I do think. Former Iowa Haka. I do think

29:16Lloyd will get those. I'm not starting any packer player. But if you have to. Like, my concerns with Floyd, I mean, I think it makes sense because he, I think he's slotted to be there starting running back. I mean, we haven't seen an official announcement of that. But I think he will be. My concerns are he's showing to be injury prone. I mean, two years to injuries. And the other concern I have is, I mean, he's not a huge guy. So is that the type of player you want being your RB one? And you also said you wouldn't trust any of their wide receivers. So are you not trusting their run game either? I don't know. You're just saying that whole, that whole. What I did picked up to win in my bets and you agreed with it. So now I feel like I have to say because somebody's got to do somebody has to do it. If you're saying that they're Tucker craft. Tucker craft. Yeah. Yes. Tucker craft and Marshall and Lloyd together.

30:16And Caleb Johnson. Oh, I don't know if he'll Johnson. I don't even know how much he'll play. Yeah. I mean, he hasn't been there long, obviously. And the other thing would be that he can't pass block. We're the shit. Now, maybe he's gotten better at that. Josiah Hoyt checking and saying, yo, Egg Buka or Giddarian price for a Flex spy. Is this one we know we compared at Egg Buka and Stevenson, right? Yeah, and we compared Giddarian price and McConkey. Okay. All right. So we've talked about both of them a little bit here. I know our last one, Egg Buka or Stevenson, we both thought of Buka. I think I feel the same way here. I just the Seattle offense. It could get off to a slow start. This is a new offensive coordinator, new scheme, right? This is a rookie playing his first NFL game under very bright lights. I mean, obviously Wednesday night opening Super Bowl rematch. All that stuff. I do. I have to say I feel a little bit more confident in Ibuka in a Flex spot.

31:21Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. And this is another one where price probably has the more solid floor because he's going to get some runs. He's going to get his carries. You'll probably get a couple catches. But I think Egg Buka has a much higher ceiling. Yeah. I agree with you. All right. Shout out to CKXPRS, Loveland Rice Bucky, King Cade, Hampton, Waddle, PPR Flex, PPR2 Flex, who wins? Am I picking between all six of those picking two? No. No. It's one team versus the other. I guess I'm not sure. I was thinking who wins between that. Between those two, PPR2 Flex, who wins? Well, I think if it's if we'll do it both ways. I think Loveland is going to outscore Dalton, King Cade. And I think Loveland is a stud. Absolutely. It's biased. I'm a very sphan.

32:25But no, I take the bias out of it. And I still think that he's going to have an amazing season. Yeah, agreed. Jalen Waddle, I think will be better than Rishi Rice. I can get behind that as well. Yeah. The Broncos, it's a trade. Oh, it's a trade. Three for three. Who wins a trade? Okay. I got you. All right. Interesting. Okay. This is tough. Because Loveland is a great tight end and better than it improves the tight end position over Cade. Waddle for Rice, I'd rather have Waddle. I think he's going to have a really good year. Bo Nick's through the ball more than anybody else last year. Now he's got a field stretching wide receiver like that. No, compared Bucky and Hampton. I want to say Hampton, because I think that offense is going to be good for the chargers. You know, and I think Mike McDaniel is going to do a lot for them. I think Hampton has a lot of talent,

33:26but we didn't fully see it because he got injured too early. And that makes me slightly nervous because we did see Bucky Irving succeed and Bucky Irving did very well. Honestly, I think it's a very even trade. I like the upside of Loveland. Okay. So yeah, if you've not checked out our show, first of all, welcome and thank you. But you're big on tight ends. I think we're big on if you want. Leagues can be won by having the right tight end. A premium tight end. And I would call a Colson Loveland a premium tight end over Dalton can get can get still good. Top 12 in my opinion. But we both had Loveland at three. And I think he finishes top three tight end. We had arguments against this that he's going to be tight and two. Yeah, I know. Yep. There are, yeah, we have tight end two. So and Brock Bauer's. I was going to say Brock Bauer's already out and he was my tight end too. Yeah. So I think I like the Loveland rice Bucky. I'm not a huge

34:27Rishi rice guy. I would much rather have Jalen Waddle. But I think I like keeping Loveland and Bucky. I do think it's even either way though. I think it's a fair trade. Yeah, it's a fair trade. So I think it just depends on what else you have to piece around them. Yeah, absolutely. And Loveland will be too. Medium rare point of view POV. That's a fun name. James Walsh, all I can think of when I hear POV is Arnie's to be. Yeah, who is six just saying everything she says POV and then she says this like you know, like POV. This happens. And we watched a movie and a bad guy. It was an action movie that maybe a six year old shouldn't I know or didn't I know? But this was just funny. It's an action movie. Maybe a six year old shouldn't. What movie was it? Mayday. Mayday. But the bad guy got thrown out of a window and she goes POV, the bad guy out the window. Anyway, James Walsh, Ramandre Stevenson, PPR Flex. Gosh, this is a tough one.

35:31Obviously Stevenson playing tonight. So you got to go ahead. What were you going to say? JMo. I think I'm leaning JMo. I think I'm leaning that way. I just see actually are really good against the run last year. So that's part of it. Ramandre is going against the, I know things change. I know they have some new defensive pieces, but they were third ranked against running backs. Fantasy football wise last year. The lions, they play the saints, who were pretty good against the past as well. But I think they were really good at limiting White receiver ones. James William's obviously that White receiver too. And then Stevenson, I just have concerns with his fumbling issues. He's had some fumbling issues. I could see him fumble once or twice and getting right into the doghouse. I think that JMo is just more reliable here. Like is like more of a, you'll get solid. And I'm not a James William's guy. I'm really not a JMo guy. Yeah, James in the Irish whiskey. Absolutely. But, but JMo the player, you've always

36:35been big on him. I have not. So Seahawks did allow the most passes running backs last year. I just don't know if I trust Ramondra's hands though. This is a spot where if it was Henderson, I would smash it. But Henderson can, or sorry, Stevenson can catch the ball. I just don't know if I trust his hands. If I'm being honest, this is my thought. You were on JMo too. I was just thinking just the more reliability for, I don't know. There's always the chance too that Ramondra gets two catches. So you get two points there for, let's say 20 yards. So that's four. And he has 50 rushing yards. So you're sitting at nine points off your first game and you're not happy about it. I mean, that's it's a very real possibility. July 12 saying trade, EG Buka for Lad Makonky. And you're welcome, meeting Mayor. Thanks for checking us out. EG Buka for Lad. Is it a PPR league? Because if it's

37:35PPR, I like Lad slightly more. If it's not EG Buka. If it's not, I think I like EG Buka more. I think this isn't even trade. It's kind of a preference. And we don't know how Lad will look in the new offensive scheme. Though I imagine he'll have about the same thing where he will be targeted 10 plus times a game probably. He's good for 8 to 10, you know. Yeah. But I like EG Buka too. And I think there's no more Mike Evans, you know. And so yeah, they can, they can kind of key in on EG Buka. But I just think he's, I think he's too good, you know. I don't know. I'm against you with that on that one. I think I like Lad. You like Lad better? And it is. It's 10 man PPR. So in PPR, I definitely like you know, I think. I think I better about the decision. And medium rare also likes Lad all day. So there you go.

38:36Yeah, PPR, I do like Lad. I mean, he's going to get a shit ton of catches. Even if it's not a shit ton of yards, I mean, he'll get the yards too, but shit ton. Keep dropping the questions in. If you have them, otherwise we'll finish just a couple more here that we're floating around. The internet's a lot. I saw a lot of, I guess this was a popular combo of quarterback extracted for starting and back up. But Baker may feel or Jackson dark. Oh, I'm going to jump in. Yeah. I think I'd have to go with dark. I think that he has more rushing upside. I know Baker, may feel the can run before I know you're a Baker may feel fan. So I'm like already feeling you get all the. I just think that dark is going to be set up for more opportunities because Harbaugh already said that he wants to use Dart like he used Lamar Jackson. True. I feel like he has a lot more opportunity that way. I, I'm with Mayfield on this one. Okay. It's a new system for Dart.

39:37Maybe he does pick it up right away. Come in, but I think Harbaugh runs a complex system. So there could be some kind of complexity of it. No, I just think, you know, even if you look at Caleb Williams, he had hiccups last year to start in Ben Johnson's offense. I think Dart might have some hiccups. And it looks like neighbors might be training to play, but we don't know yet. He's questionable. We don't know if he's playing. If there's no neighbors, I definitely am all over Mayfield in this one. And Mayfield's just a dog. I mean, Dart already has a date with the blue tent for a concussion protocol. It seems to happen more than any other quarterback. He gets put in the tent. So I'm going with the big show. I think Dart is more talented. Sleeping on the dog, Baker, who just got paid. Yeah, he got paid, but that's fine. I still will go with Dart. Another question a lot of people were asking, and we kind of hit on this on our betting show. So if you're a better, make sure you check out last night's show, or I gave

40:40my six pack picks. And you said if you approved or disapproved or disagreed with them. So, and why? But we talked about George Kittle because there was a question in the comments there. Should I sit George Kittle was on Twitter a lot? I know. I think that this for me really just depends on who your backup tight end is. George Kittle. Well, then you're not, then you're sitting. Yeah, if he's your backup, if you manage to get to top 12 tight ends, then fine, start your other day. But you know, he's likely on that snap count with limited action. We don't know how he'll look fresh from injury. I think in most situations, you likely drafted Kittle as your tight end one. And yeah, he's going to get some points, but I would anticipate that it would be very limited in some way. I feel bad if Kittle is your tight end one. He is a top 12 if you're in a 12 main league. Not in my list in the

41:42legitimate list of rankings. He's a top 12. And in a 12 main league, you probably, like if you drafted him depending on where things want you, he's probably your tight end one. Unless you snagged up to no. I don't know. But I do think if you have a better option or you have a solid second tight end on start, sit, Kittle, because I do think he's going to be limited. I think Jake Tonge, Tonge is, Tonge is, however you say this name, we'll have more yards and a touchdown than Kittle. Kittle will have less yards zero touchdowns. And we'll just, we'll just see no number 15. That is a number actually. Giderian price or Martian Lloyd. Do you want to take this one? You want me to take this one? That's, it's hard. We kind of already talked about how we feel about both of them really.

42:43Oh, because in my opinion, I do think that Martian Lloyd is going to see some action. Yeah. And especially in our discussions of you talking about how you don't trust their wider speakers. I don't trust their team. I think the Packers are going to be relying on craft in Martian Lloyd. Fair. As far as defensive matchups, very similar. Martian Lloyd goes against number seven, Minnesota, who allowed an average of 20.2 points to running backs per game last year. I know things changed from last year, but that's what we have to go off of right now. The Patriots had it allowed 20.3. So you're talking point one difference. Lloyd's got no, you know, no number 15 say Lloyd has no proven record, but guaranteed volume and it's the same for price. Absolutely. Yeah. It's a crapshoot either way. Both. I think I'm going with price though. You're going with price. I think I am just because I do think Seattle has a decent off offense. I know it's a kind of a new scheme that they're kind of

43:45entering here, but I do think the defense is good enough. I like their offensive line better than the Packers. And we don't have a lot to go on off of price, but he's already less injury prone, I guess, than Martian Lloyd just based on history. So yeah, I think I'm going price on this one. I'm on the yeah. It's hard. You have a little bit of Packer bias there. This one is. I'm kind of on the fence of it because they're both in like, you know, they're in a similar position. Yeah. I like no number 15s take here. It gives a better reason to watch the game tonight. Absolutely. There you go. Media by Damien has a question. Go ahead and type in the chat and we will answer it. While you're doing that, just want to let everybody know that every Wednesday night, I know it's different this this week because the game's starting on Wednesday. But normally every Wednesday night, 8 p.m. Central will be talking NFL bets. I'll bring my best bets. And Miranda here will decide.

44:47Pick them up. Yeah, I get to pick them apart. Decide if you like them. Don't like them and why. Thursday at 5 p.m. Central will be doing a whiskey show. So that'll be all whiskey. And then right after that, we'll be a start sit show every week. Meeting by Damien says is sending Lad and Gentie in return for McLorn and Barkley, even if my RB2 is Kyron and my White receiver one is JSN. Is that good? I go ahead. I like what you have. I like glad and Jenny better with Kyron and JSN. I think that's very yeah. I like that. I don't think I I like Lad better than scary Terry. Now part of that is I'm really concerned about Jaden Daniels attitude. We've just seen negativity negativity. But I like Lad either way better. And then Gentie and Barkley is probably I mean he's the better proven back because Gentie did all right

45:47last year. But that team should be better this year. The offensive lines should be much improved the Tyler Winterbommet Center. And I think they're going to really take on kind of a physical identity. And that's going to start with Gentie. I know there's talk that Mike Washington might steal some of his his carries. But I don't know if I buy into that. I mean spell him from time to time right. But Gentie's still going to get his yeah. Yeah. Awesome team though. Yes. I think that's an awesome team. Don't trade don't trade away Lad and J. Lad JSN Kyron Williams. Gentie. I like that team a lot. I think you're better off staying put unless you do have I mean I know sometimes there's just oh I really I don't I don't have this player on any of my teams and I really want them on one of my teams. If it's something like that I get it. I do get it. Michael Wilson on the bench as well. Damien says so that that's awesome as well. Because I think he's going to be solid and he's going to he might outperform Marvin Harrison. Fortune 78X checking in. This is probably the last question.

46:51I mean if you are in the chat and want to put it in there you can otherwise you can reach us on X at old-fashioned FB but he's saying Travis ETN or Devonte Adams. That's tough. But I have one reason for saying Travis ETN. The Rams are getting out to Australia less than 24 hours before the game starts. It's it's right around 24 hours but is 24 hours enough to shake off the jet lag. I know these guys are used to traveling but this is week one. This is the first game this year. So there's that and I don't know about you but when I enter a different time zone it takes me a bit to kind of get it. I know there is some concern over the Rams players. There's still a fire offense. Yeah and he's a veteran but I also ETN should feel like he should do well. Yeah. Agreed. I think ETN is like

47:53the Rams players have this question mark with for whatever reason why they're traveling out there so late when the Niners had a whole week out there. Yeah. But ETN will be solid dependable with that question mark. Yeah. I agree. You know the more I read the more I am concerned you picked apart my teaser because you said you felt like the Saints would ruin it by beating the Lions. The more I read about the Lions secondary and how bad it is and how good this offense for the Saints might work with ETN and Shuck and so it's good that I picked apart that bet and said no. That's the one I'd already placed though so it didn't matter. That was the teaser right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. David and also saying should I start Kittler Concade? My concern with Kittler is he's going to be on a snap count. What is Kitt? So because of that I think I'm rolling with King Kitt.

48:55Now, Kitt does play against a tough defense with the Texans obviously but they were 17th ranked fantasy points against tight ends so that that kind of helps there and though the the Rams were I don't know if either of these teams either Kittler or Kittler is going to give you 10 points. I think Kittler will. 10? Yeah. He'll get you 10. I feel more comfortable with Kittler because we know unless something happens he's playing the whole game. I don't know if Kittler is. This is true. So I think because of that I'm I'm rolling the dice with King Kitt. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Let's do it. Yeah. I'll agree with you. Damien would have Fortune in the chat. He is a 49ers fan so fortune if you have an opinion one way or another. Fortune is very anti-kittle this year from everything ever. He said he was tight in the one. What are you talking about? No, he didn't. Yeah, he did in our fantasy football tight ends. I thought he's been saying no. Maybe what am I what am I thinking then? I'm not sure. I'm thinking of something. You're thinking of something. And Damien also says,

49:57should I pick up likely on the waiver? I think Isaiah likely is going to have a hell of a year. I mean, Harbaugh got him in the free agency when the Ravens didn't resigning for a reason. I mean, that was one of his dudes that he drafted. I've heard that they're lining him up at tight end. They're lighting him up in the slot. They're lining him up outside. I think he's going to be all over the field. His problem has always been health. I shouldn't say always. He hasn't played that long but he I think likely is a good choice if you got the spot for it. Yeah. Yeah. And yes, he did. It's anti-CMC that you're thinking. Which I also am against that sentiment too. Paray K0702, trade-nix, slam and Shakir for Lamar, Agbuka and Brian Thomas Jr. in a super flex. The other quarterback is Herbert. Other White receivers are Waddle and London. I like nix over Lamar. I'm worried about Lamar's offensive line. They took a big hit by losing Linda bomb. And I know you are a little bit bit higher on Lamar than I am but I'm a bonix guy.

51:03I do like my bonix. Yeah. Brian Thomas Jr. I like him better than K0702. So that part of the trade I like and slam and Agbuka. What do you like better there? I think CD. I mean, I think they're pretty even but I think CD. CD. Yeah. So I think I'd keep nix slam and Shakir. I wouldn't mind moving Shakir for somebody for sure but I don't know if I like the trade back there. Brock Bauer is just ruined Damien's league. Yeah. Yeah. It is my fault. I'm going to go ahead and take responsibility for the Brock Bauer's injury because if you remember after we did our fantasy football top 12 tight end episode, I said, hey, I have a league where I have Brock Bauer's anti-lure war and contracted. It was my boasting or bragging of that rubbing it in and whatever you want to call it, chest pounding. It was my fault that Brock Bauer's got hurt. I have a

52:04feel like. Who do you like better this week in full PPR? Giderium Price, Cortland Sutton, Stefan Diggs, Quentin Johnston. I'm going to rule Diggs out because I just don't know how he's going to look in that offense. I don't know how that offense is going to look in general. You've been pretty big on Quentin Johnston even. I have been big on Quentin Johnston. Now part of it, I mean, he did catch a really long bomb pass and preseason for a touchdown and I think they will find better ways to utilize them than they have in the past. I mean, his problem has kind of been drops and it looks like he's cleaned that up. But also part of it was bias that I did some articles on the sports-gallon podcast networks websites that I did some articles where I simulated Madden seasons and Johnston led the league in receiving. And you're going to be slayed by this buff scene? Made some money. I know. Video game simulations. I know you have. As far as an answer to this,

53:06do you have one? Cortland Sutton for the Broncos, Price, Seahawks, Quentin Johnston. That's tough. Full PPR. I don't think Quentin Johnston is going to be a target machine. I think he's going to be a big play guy. Cortland Sutton against those chiefs. I don't know if I trust the chiefs defense. I kind of like Cortland Sutton here. It's not a bad. I don't know. I agree with you. Digs out of this. Yeah. And I assume you're ruling Quentin Johnston out because you think my rights is just Madden. Kind of. And I think. So Price or Sutton, I feel like that's fairly even. I kind of like that Sutton. Sutton. I kind of like Sutton. All right. Just a couple more here. First of all, Gruberman saying I look like DK Metcalfall disagree there, but thanks. Matthew Pritz say and start Quentin Mitchell or Derek Henry week one. Derek Henry. As would be my answer that you answer as well. I assume.

54:09median would you be willing to rate one of my starting lineups? Absolutely. Might not be great at it, but absolutely. And Dark Gogans, Marina, love that laugh. Easy now. Bubble bass, can you rate my girlfriend? No, because everybody has their own preferences, I'll say. So this is mine. But yeah, Damien, if you want to, you can send it to us on because we're wrapping up getting towards the top of the hour here. We're going to wrap up. But if you want to send us the line up at old fashioned FB, we're also on Instagram old fashioned. Oh, we got it now. Never mind. Caleb Williams, automatic A. Oh, yeah. The bear's fan. Ivana Chan, Kenneth Walker, Kyron Williams, solid running in the room. I know you're high. I love when I see Kyron Williams in there, not as my R.B. one, but in there. Yeah, you like. He's a touchdown machine. Better than I do. You also like Kenneth Walker, I think a little bit better than I do. I don't know why I'm down on him because a lot of people are big on Kenneth Walker. I just

55:12for some reason, I think he's going to be good. I just don't think he's going to be as good as some people have been toting. Jamar Chase, hell of a pick, even if Burrows hurt. Gary Wilson should be good. Tucker Kraft is, I target him a lot. Yeah. And he is playing um, brand defense one, but is the best defense. Sorry, I'm jumping ahead here. Well, I'm just, Jamar Chase is going to be good no matter even if Brogans hurt. Gary Wilson, I'm really high on the Jets offense this year. I know that sounds weird, but I think they're going to be pretty decent. And so does their former coach, who now is with the Titans. He said he thinks their offense, the Jets offense will be top half and lead. They haven't been that since I think 2015. Tucker Kraft, I know you love Tucker Kraft. He's the one packer player that I will say I haven't been involved with. I hadn't ranked as Titan 4. And he was fifth on my list. Rams defense. I mean, Miles Garrett, um, young or, yeah, young, I think they got Aaron Donald. They traded for McDuffy, I believe it was the corner.

56:15I mean, they just have studs all over that defense. It's a scary defense. And I actually heard they did that because they got so scared by Caleb Williams and the playoffs. And then Harrison Butler. That is a very good team. I like that. I say you smashed your draft. Um, and yeah, should be, should be doing great aiming to stack leveling, but he got picked. So had to pivot to Kraft. That's in the 12th, not bad at all. Uh, Gruberman has Caleb Williams, Donner Swift, cam scataboo, Dave and Montgomery, Josh Jacobs, where she writes Malik neighbors, Lad Mcconkey Brock Bowers. Aside from Brock Bowers being hurt, I like it. Um, because I like, uh, Swift and Williams. I like scataboo, Dave and Montgomery's. Josh Jacobs out, touchdown machine. Yeah, Josh Jacobs, maybe he'll come back this year. No, I don't think he's going to. This is a big debate we had in our family. It was. Um, I think Malik neighbors is a, I, where did I list him in my top? White receivers. He was top four. I don't have your list. I have my list. Yeah, he was top four

57:18for me. Lad Mcconkey again, a PPO machine. Brock Bowers once his knee is better is fine. So, and Damien's a bear's fan too will give us a follow. Appreciate that. And my team, Josh Jacobs, now I think you should never play another down again. Um, I think, in fact, I think the NFL needs to focus on maybe domestic abuse, you know, take the end racism out of the end zones and put end domestic abuse. Um, but anyways, right? There's a lot of it in the NFL. There seems to be a lot of it. Um, to gooberman has been, dark goggins has gooberman has been in our toilet bowl two years in a row, by the way, you know, it happens. Um, you can't, you can't win them all and sometimes you can't win any. No, I'm just kidding. That's all we have. We'll be back next week for Bettson on Wednesday, whiskey and start sits on Thursday. Good luck in your matchups. Do you have anything else you want to know? It's been fun. I love that we're back to start sits. Absolutely. After a one year hiatus, we're back to fantasy football start sits. So, um, and you had Garrett Wilson in your lineup.

58:22They're, I'm high on that offense. There's a reason he's there. That's all we got today. Good luck and have fun.