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0:00I'm Laurie Siegel, and this is Mostly Human, a tech podcast through a human lens. This week, an interview with OpenAI CEO Sam Altman. I think society is going to decide that creators of AI products bear a tremendous amount of responsibility to the products we put out in the world. An in-depth conversation with the man who's shaping our future. My highest order bit is to not destroy the world of AI. Listen to Mostly Human on the iHeartRadio app Apple Podcast or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. I'm Laurie Siegel, a long-time tech journalist. And consider my new podcast, Mostly Human, your bridge to the future. Anyone can now be an entrepreneur, anyone can build an app, and it's very empowering. Each week, I'll speak to the people building that future, and we're going to break down what all of this innovation actually means for you. What I come to realize is that when people think that they're dating these AI companion, they're actually dating the companies that create this. We're experiencing one of the greatest tech accelerations in human history.

1:02And let's be honest, that can be messy. There's no playbook for what to do when an AI model hallucinates a story about you. But it's my belief that we should all benefit from this moment. Mostly human will show you how. My goal is to give you the playbook, so you can benefit. The reason I say agency is because if we can give power back to people, then I think that's probably the best thing we can do for your mental health. Listen to Mostly Human on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. Money, money, the financial information that just might change your life. This is the Bloomberg Money Minute on 700 WLW. All right, Matt Piper in here this morning from the Bloomberg Newsroom. Matt, first there were Trump checks. Now, Trump dollar bills. That's right, Steve. So this is a first for a sitting president. President Trump says his signature will appear on US currency.

2:03That ends a 165 year tradition. Until now, the US currency has bored the signatures of the secretary and the treasurer. Production is set to begin in June. And of course, the move comes as Trump has put his name on other things like the Kennedy Center and the US Institute of Peace in DC. Well, my dollar bills be worth more now that he signs them. Let's say it depends on the war. Okay, let's talk about jeopardy spin off. It's not on TV though. That's right. This is a spin off on YouTube. Ken Jennings is hosting jeopardy YouTube edition, which will debut on the Google owned service next Tuesday. Now this will feature three YouTube creators playing for their charity of choice. Now while it will be similar to the show that everyone knows on TV, it will also feature clues and categories related to internet culture and of YouTube itself. All right. Sounds interesting. What are the futures doing after yesterday's debacle? Yeah. Well, it's still a debacle. The Dow Jones right now is down 211 points and has that futures down 178 S&P futures down

3:06by 33 from Bloomberg, Matt Piper on 700 WLW. All right. It's coming up on 8-11 on a Friday morning on Tom Brennan show. You know, that's when we get to talk to Matt Rouse, our TV guide expert, a good morning Matt. Hey. Good morning. Glad you're here today. Want to talk to you. How are the ratings for the March Madness going? Well, apparently they're quite good at setting some records. Some games are in average. They're something like 10 million, depending on the platform and, of course, people are watching it all different kinds of ways, but definitely on CBS and the Turner Networks has been doing quite well with the men's tournament, AESPN and ABC are sharing the women's games and they're quite robust. I think that you can't find more suspenseful TV anywhere right now than these games that are going right down to the wire. Sometimes upset, sometimes near-up sets and if you've got your brackets, nobody's bracket ever is perfect, but nonetheless, it is definitely great television and it's doing quite

4:10well. So yeah, and that continues. We're in the sweet 16-period right now heading toward the Elite 8 over the weekend and then it's going to be the final four next week, which still shocks me when I think that it's not on CBS, the final games will only be on cable, only on TBS so that, you know, that's the way the world and people are used to it, but it's like, somehow or other, if it's not on CBS, it just felt like that was the way it was always supposed to be. But that's happened, of course, so much more within migration, AESPN and now, of course, the first game of the baseball season was on Netflix this week as all of the games began. So, you know, it's a brave new world. What can I say? I'm standing up later watching some basketball. I shouldn't be doing that. I bet. Let's talk about one of your favorite streaming shows. It's back after a two-year hiatus. Yeah, it's called For All Mankind, and, excuse me, but For All Mankind was one of the very first shows when Apple TV plus first launched, and I would just call it Apple TV.

5:10But when that streamer began, the very first series that premiered were The Morning Show, which is a much more famous show, but For All Mankind was one of my early favorites. It is a show that I tend to describe as West Wing meets NASA. It's been a show about the space race, but it's an alternative history where imagines a world in which the Russians got to the moon first, and the space race never really ended to the point at which we now have colonies on Mars in the year 2012. It all began back in the 60s, and now we've had all this much time past, and now some of these characters that are still with us, they have a colony on Mars, but now there's conflict between Mars and Earth because Earth, there's an Earth-first movement thinking that we're spending too much resources up in space, and the colony itself in Mars has had its own issues and some turmoil, and so it's like who's going to be in control of this colony, and sort of like the American Revolution. Well, Mars kind of wants to run itself now, so it's almost like a planetary revolution,

6:11maybe interesting stuff, and that begins, the new season begins today on Apple TV. We renewed it for one more season, the sixth season will be the final season. There's also a spin-off coming later this spring, which is going to be called Star City, which goes inside the Soviet program, or the Russian program, because how did they get to the moon first? Well, that kind of a thing. So anyway, but it's really great stuff, and if you're into the mythology of it all, it's really good television. Is it kind of odd that they took a two-year hiatus and then come back for the final two seasons? Well, these are really complicated productions, because you have to create this set and planetary sets, and it is complicated, but everything was delayed because of those strikes a couple of years. Oh. The writer's strike, the actor's strike, and that slowed everything down, especially for shows like this. So a lot of shows have taken long breaks between seasons, especially in the streaming world, but maybe the sixth season will come sooner than this one did. If you're a streaming watcher, a lot of times you end up watching the end of the season

7:13before when so much time passed, you have to do a little bit of homework sometimes to get back in the game. All right, Palm Sunday, coming up this weekend, religious and biblical TV, making a comeback, it looks like. Well, definitely. Today, Hulu drops the second season of a show called House of David, which is a big, biblical, big production, all about the shepherd who becomes the king of Israel, and in the second season, we've just come up, the first season ended with him slaying the David Goliath story happens, and now he's quite famous, he's now a warrior, and he's going toward his destiny, which doesn't thrill King Saul a lot, so there's a lot of conflict there. And then over on the streaming service of Fox Nation, a new episode of a series called Martin Scorsese Presents to Saints, which aired last year, but now there's a new episode that's a supersized episode that all deals with a life of Mary, the mother of Jesus, and that premieres today as well. Martin Scorsese is the narrator and the host of this show, but he also, in this one, he's going to do an introduction where he tells about his own connection to Easter season, having

8:16grown up in Little Italy, but it's much more of a personal kind of a thing for him to present this thing. Unlikely, I mean, you know, you don't get a lot of Martin Scorsese on television, so this stalk you series is also something that's popular with the fans of people who are looking for inspirational TV this time of year. Okay, your other favorite streaming show that isn't the pit, I guess, it's called Paradise on Hulu, right? Yeah, Paradise is going to finish the second season on Monday. This is a series that's a post-apocalyptic series where in the first season, you discover that all of these people, like the elites of the world, of the elites of the United States anywhere, had all been living in this underground bunker that looks like an entire city. You don't even know that you're underground, but they've been living there because it was an environmental disaster above ground, wiped out a bit of the world, but not everything, and so the second season has taken us above ground to sort of sense over those years how do people actually survive? The show kind of reminds me of Lost and the way that it creates these really interesting back stories or characters, plus there's a lot of suspense in what's happening in the bunker, what's happening above ground, and the final episode, airs on Monday, and they

9:21haven't given it to us ahead of time. So I'm on the edge of my seat like everybody else because there's all these things happening like a nuclear meltdown underground is almost happening and all these other things are happening. So it's really good stuff. And that one is called Paradise on Hulu. One more NCIS fans still reeling over last week's death in the 500th episode. Yeah, the five out of the episode, they really wanted to make a big deal and have some impact. So they ended up writing out the character of the director of the NCIS, Rocky Carroll, who played a director of dance, who's been on the show for 18 seasons. And you really thought he had escaped death through most of the episodes and turns out he was talking to the Angel of Death that he sacrificed himself to save the agency. And it was a really big episode. A lot of people, a lot of fans are still reacting to this, but the show will carry on without him. But also one of the interesting aspects was that he was talking to the Angel of Death who took the form of a young version of the character Ducky, the medical examiner who was played for years by David McCallum, but there was also an actor who would play him in flashbacks

10:25as a young version. And that actor's name is Adam Campbell. And he'll also be seen next week on the Spinoff series NCIS Origins, which is set back in the 90s, which is where we see the young Ducky actually still alive. But yes, when you write off a big character like director of dance, it creates a real controversy sometimes. Is it, does it hurt the show to lose a beloved character or does it give new life to the show to refresh it for the future? I mean, the show has been on for like 23 years. So they have to keep changing it up somehow or other. But yes, that was a big deal for NCIS fans. There was celebration of the 500 episode, but also a bit of sadness to say goodbye to a character that everybody liked. Absolutely. Matt Roush is talking TV. How do we connect with you? TVNCenter.com is the best place to go, Daley McCallum. What's worth watching? Thank you so much. We'll talk to you next Friday. All right. Thank you. All right. Next morning at about 818, Chuck, do you see this? What's that? 36 million men's basketball brackets, 5.2 million women's 41.2 million.

11:29This is all the ones that are documented, not all the ones that people don't document on paper. Mm-hmm. There's one perfect bracket left out of 41.2 million, eighth grader in Pennsylvania, Otto Schellhammer has the only perfect bracket left. It's actually a women's bracket. He's going to say, because all the men are done. Yeah. He's got Texas Longhorn's winning it for the women, the one perfect bracket and eighth grader. Wow. Wow. What's going on out there? I'm bad. He's not old enough to bet. No, kid. You know he is. I've been a rough morning, hasn't it? It sure has. And it continues. From the UC Health Traffic Center, the UC Health Women's Sports Medicine program provides specialized care for female athletes at all levels. That's good joint appointment on mine at UC Health dot com. New problems northbound 75. There's an accident or a broken down rather just before the Brent Spence. That's keeping traffic slow, a new accident on Eastbound 275.

12:30That's over the Licking River. The traffic is now backing up to Turkey foot and Southbound 75, a new wreck just before you get to the cut in the hill. We're just adding two delays into downtown from just below Hoppe in Claremont County, Westbound 32. There's an accident after you got out of a Xavier causing a significant backup, Westbound on 50 and accident before you get into Owensville, Chuck Ingram News Radio 700 WLWM. And then I in first wondering why the forecast center looking like this, uh, rain's going to be out of here by at least noon time and turning mostly sunny today. We'll get back up to 49. It's 44 right now at your severe weather station news radio 700 WLWM. 700 WLWM since and a let's talk to our ABC news correspondent and Dallas Jim Ryan with his gym. Are they getting paid? They're not. Oh, but there's a slight climmer of hope, okay?

13:32Early early this morning to 20 Washington time, the Senate voted to fund the Department of Homeland Security except for ICE and the deportation efforts, but TSA is included in that. So those blue shirted TSA agents working the airports, something deciding to stay home or quitting altogether because they're not getting paid in heaven for weeks. There is that slight hope that this might be solved soon. The house will take up that same measure later today, Steve. So uh, if the house votes okay, they get paid immediately, started in two weeks. What's nobody knows? Yeah, that's the thing. Today was supposed to be their payday. So it does this me. I said, let's see, the house then loosens up the funding. It could have joined the media to pay for those agents, maybe even back pay, or they might have to wait another couple of weeks. But yeah, it's amazing the the attitude of the the agents out there and the passengers quite frankly were standing in line. I had to fly to New York early this week and fly back and the TSA agents are quite friendly.

14:34I mean, I thank them for their services actually because they were working for free, their spirit serving so world of passengers. So you know, this this may just be a temporary thing assuming the Senate move is followed up in the in the house. Some day you'll have to explain to me, how do you have a job for the government and you work and you don't get paid? Yeah, it's crazy. It's crazy. It did happen. You know, it's happened several times in the last couple of years. Yeah, incredible. And you said ice, this bill that they pass in the middle of the night doesn't include ice. Correct. Yes. So ice is not part of that funding that, you know, that's the part the Democrats have been upset about. They don't want to see ice funded because of policies and less policies have changed there about unmasking and about using judicial warrants instead of administrative warrants to take people into custody for deportation. So that part is still left out. So this is almost a carve out to fund TSA. That extremely politically unpopular move here for both parties essentially.

15:35So this could be a beginning to an entity. All right. So we are still in a partial government shutdown. Yes. Okay. Yeah, at least for now. I don't think it could be cooling down a bit. I'm confused. Okay. Right. Thank you, Dallas. Thanks for your report. I appreciate it. All right. Starting on the home of the Cincinnati Reds News Radio 700 WL double I'm Lori Siegel, a long time tech journalist. And consider my new podcast, mostly human, your bridge to the future. Anyone can now be an entrepreneur, anyone can build an app and it's very empowering. Each week, I'll speak to the people building that future and we're going to break down what all of this innovation actually means for you. What I come to realize is that when people think that they're dating these AI companion, they're actually dating the companies that create this. We're experiencing one of the greatest tech accelerations in human history. And let's be honest, that can be messy. There's no playbook for what to do when an AI model hallucinates a story about you.

16:37But it's my belief that we should all benefit from this moment. Mostly human will show you how. My goal is to give you the playbook so you can benefit. The reason I say agency is because if we can give power back to people, then I think that's probably the best thing we can do for your mental health. Listen to mostly human on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. Better get ready, it's time for a lot of business news. This is the Bloomberg Money Minute on 700 WLW. Good morning. Stocks are headed for their longest streak of weekly losses since 2022, as traders grow more nervous about the Iran War, stock futures all down this morning. Prano-Racard and Jack Danielsmaker Brown Foreman are discussing a merger to consolidate amid an industry downturn, a deal would create a leader in American whiskey and strengthen Prano's position in the tequila market. It comes as Americans are drinking less and switching to less expensive liquors.

17:38Open AI has put plans for a sexually explicit chatbot on hold indefinitely amid mounting concerns about the societal and reputational risks of releasing it. Open AI now says it wants to conduct long-term research into the effects of sexually explicit conversations and emotional attachments before making any product decision. Netflix is hiking prices again, all subscription tiers are rising at least $1. Its cheapest plan with ads is now $8.99 a month, add free bumps up to $19.99 and its premium plan rises $3 to $26.99, though the first price hikes for Netflix in more than a year. John Bloomberg Matt Piper on News Radio 700 WLW 700 WLW in Cincinnati, it is time to head to Jerusalem, our ABC News correspondent Jordana Miller with this this morning. Hey, Jordana, what's the latest from the Middle East this morning? Well, I just came out of a bombshelter here in Jerusalem. We got alerts in what was now the third Iranian missile attack of the day, one overnight,

18:41this morning and now, one in the afternoon. The Iranians are continuing to strike really all across Israel from the north to the center to the south, again, including several sirens in Jerusalem over the last couple of days. What I think has changed is that the Iranian proxy has Bala, their terror network that works up on the out of southern Lebanon. They've really, really increased their strikes on Israel in the last few days. There've been an average of 100 attacks a day between rockets and drones. We've seen a civilian killed, two soldiers killed in some of the combat also in southern Lebanon. So that borders really heating up. These Israelis continue to strike in Iran. They put out a statement today saying they hit naval vessels and some that lay minds and even some sea mines.

19:42And that comes just a day after they took out the head of the Revolutionary Guard Navy. All of that appears to be paving the way or using the way if the President, President Trump decides to launch any kind of any kind of land operation in or around the street of Hormuz. Well, I was going to ask you my next question. What is the latest with the straight of Hormuz? I know 90% of the traffic through there has fallen since the start of the war. Where are we today? I mean, we're basically in the same place. The Iranians are letting some tankers through and even now instituting or implementing a toll for some of those tankers, Chinese, Russian, and of course, the Iranians are letting their own tankers through. We heard from President Trump about that gift that the Iranians gave the United States and he had spoken of over the last couple of days. It turns out that was the passage of eight tank oil tankers through the street to kind

20:48of ease the, you know, the crisis, I would say the looming crisis in the energy markets. So but essentially it remains pretty much still closed, right? Yeah. The President talking in the past a few days, he's given Iran like 10 more days to come to the table with peace talks before getting into some of their energy or bombing some of their energy institutions. That's right. And I think the President is giving himself more room to figure out exactly what he wants to do, right? The Iranians did make that gesture. They let those tankers through. We do know that the Iranians are looking at the U.S. proposal. They've through state media. They've put out some of their demands. They look like pretty high in the sky demands that the United States would not be able to meet. Nonetheless, everyone, it seems behind the scenes trying to get the sides to meet sometime

21:49in the next several days in Islamabad, the capital of Pakistan, Pakistan emerging as the main mediator here between the U.S. and Iran. And I think the President is wisely kind of giving himself more time to figure out what he's going to do. And you know, the thousands of Marines are still on their way here to the Middle East. They're supposed to arrive on Sunday. That airborne division is coming and possibly more. So I think this is, you know, I think it was a wise move. Jordan Amiller, ABC News correspondent and jurors, I'm thank you for your report this morning. Please stay safe. Thanks. All right. Imagine we get to talk to her after she comes out of a bomb shelter live here on the morning show. Wow. It's incredible. It's about 845 700 WLW checks in here, Chuck, I was talking about yesterday, I talked about this earlier. I was at the parade yesterday. Right? I was right there at ninth and race. That's me doing the chicken dancing. It is. Yeah. Oh, I think they give me a video somewhere doing it. Yes, they do. They do.

22:50Also saving it for what I could use it. You will have that to use against me. This one, this is the funniest thing that happened to the parade yesterday. The bronze and a royal band came by and they're jamming. I mean, very loud. You can catch them half a block away. But my wife's phone started buzzing, warning loud noise area. So wait a minute. You have a feature or she has a feature on her phone that makes noise when the noise is too loud. I think so. Huh. I'm not sure. Think about that one for a minute. It was pretty incredible. I got so. She also said a couple of weeks ago before baseball season even happened. We were walking through grocery shop and she said, I could use a hot dog at the stadium. Have you seen some of the new food they have down there? Yeah, I can't wait to get there to try all of it. I want to try the stadium burnt ends. Have you heard about that? No, wait. Yeah. They have little sausage pieces.

23:50Southwest style fried with sweet barbecue rub. Yeah. Onions white barbecue sauce. Huh. That's in section 412. Hamplers double smoked sausage with Italian braised peppers. Hmm. Hmm. And I liked it. Wow. Smoked. Smoked brisket street corn bowl with Montgomery and smoked. Less with the Mexican corks. It's a spicy corn from our friends in Montgomery and I believe absolutely. How about a GLT? Get a lettuce and tomato. Yeah. You know, you know, you ought to be able to just go to dinner at GAPP even when they're not playing baseball. I mean, there you go. Hey, that's not a bad idea because then I could get a baby Ruth Brownie Sunday all of the time. I'm going to Great American for an eight-course meal. There you go. And there's no game. No, you know what? We get credit for that. You go to dinner at the ballpark when there's no baseball.

24:52That's some good food. You concentrate on eating. Well, wait a minute. That's me normal. Yes. I'll concentrate on doing the chicken dance. What's going on out there now? It's not pretty. From the UC Health Traffic Center, the UC Health Women's Sports Medicine program provides specialized care for female athletes at all levels. Schedule an appointment on mine at UCHealth.com. Crews are working with several problems. Southbound 75 and wreck as you come off of the bridge is backing up traffic to Hoppe. There's an accident on Eastbound 275 at the Leaking River Bridge. Looks like they just got that out of the way on the left hand side. It's going to take a while to get rid of the backup, but just past turkey foot in Claremont County. Westbound 32. It's an accident after you come out of Batavia, that hands traffic crawling and Westbound on 50 or wrecked before you get into Owensville, chucking from news radio 700 W. In the night. First warning, weather forecast center says if you're headed to Florence, St. Paul's

25:52there for their fish Friday nights could be in the upper 40s when things kick off for fish fries. A rain's going to leave the neighborhood by about noon time down to 29 tonight, some frost in the area. Beware that sunny and cooler tomorrow, but dry high 51. It's a 44 and getting colder at your severe weather station news radio 700 WL W Friday's mean beer Dave. He joins me next. Okay, you know what that means? It means it's the weekend. It's Friday. It's time to talk to beer Dave. Hey, how you doing beer Dave? Good morning, Steve Hawkins, little wet and cold. Absolutely. Just don't be out in traffic this morning. It's been, it's been a nightmare, but I love talking to you because I know it's officially time for the weekend. I wanted to ask you about the start off this urban artifact. They've introduced a mango IPA. I like mango. I don't know that I like IPAs, but tell me all about it here. So I had a chance to try that, to try this this weekend.

26:53It's really nice. I mean, some people like the bitterness of an IPA that these guys are the king of the fruit brewers and the sauer's and all of that. And they sort of meld the two together to come up with this finest Irish mango IPA. It was nice. It was refreshing. I enjoyed it. So they're packaging up in six packs and starting to roll it out. It's just, you know, everyone else makes an IPA and now they've added it to their mix. They're pretty unusual for them to step into that realm, but I think they'll be successful. What a great can. Got a dinosaur on it and everything. I like it. Mango IPA. I'll take that over to Fable Brewerks. They've re-released. They're rocking the rainbow road. Tell me about it. Yeah. So this is a, this is a beer that they brought out last year and it benefits people with the sensory. So people that are a little, you know, sensitive to it.

27:55And there's a gym called We Rock the Spectrum, which is really the neighbor of Fable. And so they do this so that, you know, kids with things like autism and that, they have a gym that they can go to and interact with others and stuff. And so this is really nice and it's a rainbow sherbert beer and I did get to try it this week and it was pretty amazing as well. So drinks almost like a slushy. Yeah. It's good. My grandmother would drink a rainbow sherbert ice cream beer. It's just, it's kind of sour. Is that what it tastes like? Yeah. It's got that unique, hard disk that that rainbow sherbert has and you could pick up all three flavors. Wow. All right. I got to put that one on my list. I got to put this one on my list too. The inquirer beer bracket winner was declared this week. Board, their crushable check logger Vlad beat out all the other 63 local beers. Yeah.

28:55This was, this was good. It's a new, it's a new winner this year and, you know, I mean, we're really spoiled that we have 64 different brands that we can break down and pick a winner. That just shows you how great our beer scene is around here. But, you know, it started in 2020 with backbeat from big ash and then we even won a couple of year. Green works is one and the barley coins won twice and now Vlad for, for fretboard. So really nice to see, see their, their pills and their win. That's good. Good for them. Hey, tell me about Ohio's craft brewers. They're making a final push to overturn the ban on the THC beverages. Yeah. So, you know, they really want to get these legal, you know, and get them back on the shelves and that because right now, anything that they have, they can send a Kentucky and some other states where they're still legal, but they're really fighting to get this back. Cause this means a big chunk of business to a number of the breweries in the state.

29:56So check out what's going on with some of your local breweries and see if you can sign some of the petitions to get this overruled Senate Bill 56 is what they're trying to, trying to turn. So see if you can help them out with a couple of signatures. Absolutely. They do need our support. Tell me about this US Steinholding competition that's coming to town in November of this year. Yeah. I know November is a little ways away, but they've announced that it's going to be at the Cincinnati Logger House this year again, which is really cool. So there's regionals all around and people don't really realize how hard it is to stand there with a one liter Steinhold beer in your hand and hold it straight out. It can be as painful as the ice test in all honesty. So this will be cool when it arrives in November. So just before Thanksgiving, we'll be talking about this again for everybody to get down to the Cincinnati Logger House. Yeah.

30:56That's during, since I Chris Kendall market kickoff weekend this year. All right. And one more final one, a little Miami brewing. Of course, the day after Red's opening day curve ball Belgian Whitbeer, do I say that right? Yeah. That is correct. So Whitbeer, the most popular one is Blue Moon, who garden is another one, but it's a Whitbeer made with coriander and orange peel. And this is this is out again for for the season. And they've also come out with a big red machine slushy, which has a wine punch in it. And they've got, and then they've got some cool baseball themed merch. Sure. Looks like Mr. Red likes here on their little Miami brewing company t-shirt. I got to get me one of those. Beer Dave, as always, thanks for talking to us where you drink a beer this weekend.

31:56I think I might stop into fretboard and turn a little over the winner. There you go. I got to do that too. All right, beer Dave. Thanks so much. We'll talk to you next week. Tom will be back on Monday. Scott Sloan is next after the news 700 WL W. I'm Lori Siegel. And this is mostly human, a tech podcast through a human lens. This week an interview with open AI CEO Sam Altman. And I think society is going to decide that creators of AI products bear a tremendous amount of responsibility to the products we put out in the world. An in-depth conversation with the man who's shaping our future. My highest order bit is to not destroy the world of AI. Listen to mostly human on the iHeartRadio app Apple Podcast or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.