Monday, September 7, 2026 - Part 1

0:00The views and opinions expressed on analyzing this are entirely those of the on-air participants and do not reflect those of the station's board management staff or underwriters. And good Monday morning, happy, levade, Monday morning, the first Monday in September is always Liberty. And this year it happens to fall on the last possible day of the first week, September 7. You know that impacts so many different things, you know what I'm saying? So I want to say

1:01happy levade. Here we got special levade edition of Adelaide's The Table Talk on the Infect at about 8.30. It's a beautiful day in Paris. Hey, you were humid, you were humid this morning. I don't call you at a service. So they go, let us know what to expect. See if we got heat advisory in effect for today. Right? Also we're going to play two versions of La Biga Carousel. And one by Stanley and one by Blinky. So I calm with Xi Shang because I wanted to make sure I was confirmed. I'm a good, good friend from back in the day. Right? Carousel Cortes. Hoh Granfada actually is the La Biga that we talked about that is referencing the song. So we got to that in a little bit. But we've got the weather service on the line. Good morning.

2:05How much we can wait? Good morning with Lee Engels here. Lee. How are you? Hi. Good good. What about you? Text rano. Yeah. I have been working the evening shift. Oh, working the evening shift. Yeah. We miss you. Yeah. We miss you. Do we have a heat advisory for today because it was humid this morning? Exactly. We had a lot of humid across the islands and we were expecting one temperature across the islands during the day. That's why a heat advisory is in effect from 10 a.m. all the way through 5 p.m. today. So those first of working outside, I know today's labor day, but there's some persons working or persons that are planning to have, you know, like a beach day or having fun with the family. Remember to stay hydrated the most part of the day because it's going to be very, very warm, especially because of the, of the a lot of the of humidity that is, you know, around the islands during the day. And in

3:05expected to continue at least until tomorrow. So so probably tomorrow we are going to have another warm day. Wow. But it's clear that I don't see Sahara dust. Talk a little bit about that. Yeah. We don't have Sahara in those particles today because of the moisture that we had. This basically is the part of the moisture fear moisture feel associated with a tropical wave that passed yesterday across the islands. So that moisture will remain over us at least until today. Tomorrow we are expecting some dry air with some particles of Sahara and also it might be hazy during some part of the day, but all depends of the of the cloudiness that, you know, can develop during the day. But for tomorrow, probably some hazyness, but it's going to be very sure because this is a, it's a sure episode of Sahara and us. And then after that on Wednesday, we are expecting another tropical wave that it looks better. Remember now, obviously, let's see,

4:10we have to wait until, you know, the tropical wave moves a little close to the, our island because there's a like an area of wind shear across near than our area. So tropical waves tend to weaken in before reaching us. So well, I have been saying that we are expecting an increase, obviously, in cloudiness and showers, but not, not a lot impressive. That's what I want to. Don't expect a lot of, you know, don't expect a very wet weather day. It's just very valuable with some passing showers in the morning. And then for the afternoon, the big part will be in the main island of Puerto Rico because of the topography and now David, wasn't Jose Alamo used to work with you guys before? Yeah, he used to work here. Yeah, he's in Washington, DC, right? Yeah, he's part of the international this from WPC. That's where the Prision Center. So he

5:14is basically the director of that. He was, he was the one who told me that our warmest months are September and October. Definitely, definitely. Not because only, you know, obviously the one-term practice because normally it's here in Puerto Rico again and the user giant islands from May all the way through June, July, we're starting to see those 90s in the maximum temperatures. But for August and September, we had a lot of moisture from the Caribbean and Southeast winds are basically resulting in this like warm and moist environment. When you, you know, if you go outside, probably may you will feed the warm temperature, but it's not like humid. But in September and August, we had a lot of humid. So when you go outside, it's the temperature and also you feel like stuff, okay, because of the humid. So that's why tends to be the more warmest month during the year. And I don't know if you recall, but 2023 and 24, those were the, you know, the heat peak

6:21of Jose Island is that basically. We had the most warmer September and history, I remember, for the entire region, including you guys over there. But we have some problems with the climatology in the islands because the observations are not as continuous as what we had here in San Juan because of the instrumentation and also the stations available for the islands as well. But I recall September was the warmest one in the history of the of the office, you know, and it was on 2024. Last year it was different. It was warm as well, but looks like this year September is going to be like the warmest because so far, you know, we had two extreme heat warnings at least for Puerto Rico and you guys had a heat advisory as well for yesterday and today and looks like tomorrow is going

7:24to be another warm day. Okay, now can we get a marine advisory for our boulders and our beach goers please? Oh, definitely. Today is a really good day for, you know, for beach goers and marine boaters. We have a low risk of current across all the coastal areas of San Croix and since Thomas and seas between the near shore waters are between two to three feet so that's really good for the voters. Tomorrow we are expecting an increase in winds because of the some fluctuations in the surface high pressure that is basically a dominated in the area and we are going to have moderate to localy fresh winds. So some, you know, choppy seas might, you know, be possible and also our moderate risk of record and will be in place because of the wind, the wind conditions tomorrow. Okay, good. Lee Ingalls, thank you very much. Enjoy your Labor Day and we'll talk during the week. Oh, definitely. Have a great day. Enjoy the rest of the day. Equal, take care. Glad to

8:28wait. Well, that's on Lee Ingalls from the water service. Don't live in San Juan. Let me get a Stanley version of La Biga Caracel and then after that, I'm going to read some history associated with it and then we're going to play the Blinky version after that as well. But dedicated to all the great labor leaders, especially the local labor leaders here in the Virgin Islands. And we, there was a great post on Facebook and I'm going to list all the different local labor leaders that they recognize on our Facebook posts as well. I know that I didn't say that. The one, one name that one post that I didn't see, you see? Okay, no, they did it. Okay, so we good. We good. Enjoy this Stanley version of La Biga Caracel. I will give you some background history of it. Don't come back and then we're going to recognize the local labor leaders as well as another version by Blinky, the Quadrian Music.

12:31That's the Stanley and the Tesla Plus night's version of La Biga Caracel. Of course, you know, whatever we hear, as you voice it out with a Mr. Voice, that's a unique voice you got it. Once I give a shout out to the lead great educator, Christian, the original Tassavano, but found himself, I'm syncrated. When he was flying from syncrated from St. Thomas's syncroid, it was an even swapped, if you know what I mean. Now, the story behind La Biga Caracel.

13:37First, let me give a shout out to Carissa Codes, when he's, when he baby, love you. And of course, our moms, Lena, La Biga. So here we go. I'm reading this from pankocojams.blockspot.com. And they talk about La Biga Caracel. This is from Monday, March 17th, St. Patrick days in 2014. And there's information about Quelle Music and about the song La Biga Caracel. Right? It's a Quelle. Also known as Scratch Band Music or Quadril. It's an indigenous grassroots form of folk music, which originated in the US Virgin Islands and has spread to other parts of the Caribbean. A form of oral history, its lyrics are used immortalize, significant historical events, spread rude gossip about one's neighbors, and relay the day-to-day

14:42trials and tribulations of life at an island. Scratch band musicians play homemade instruments. One can quote, scratch up, close quote. For example, one might be blowing with all of his might, all of his might, through a car muffler pipe, another scratching a hollowed out gourd with his hair pick. And yet another picking at a banjo made from a sardine can. A piece of wood and strings. In 2004, the Virgin Islands legislature passed a bill making Quelle Better official music of the Virgin Islands. The way in which Quelle Better lyrics were used to convey historical events is evident in a song entitled La Biga Carousel. By the early 1900s, slavery had long since ended in St. Croix, and jobs were scarce. The economy had drastically declined, and living conditions were poor.

15:47The very popular songbears witnessed the resulting labor unrest. The song proposes the boycott of a popular carousel owned by a man named La Biga, who said that laborers were not worthy of a period. The song is still quite popular today. A strong crujian spirit is apparent in the lyrics. I ran a walk and drink from the whole night before we go ride on La Biga Carousel. I ran a walk man and drink from the whole night before we go ride on La Biga Carousel. You know, here, what La Biga say? The people know what? More than 50 cents a day. You know, here, what La Biga say? Man, the people know what? More than half a cent a day. And it goes on and on. And Joe Paris, the reference to Joe Paris voice in here. And he also said, I'm walking, I'm looking, I'm begging

16:51before we go ride on La Biga Carousel. I am walking, I'm looking, I am begging before we go ride on La Biga Carousel. And the song really is a powerful song because it speaks to the local people, right? The demison saying, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, you got a limit to this. Right? And it's a popular song. Up to this, they will always be a popular song because, as articulated here, it's a it's a it's a form of an oral story, right? That is real. Right? And the label and the rest of the song. So we, I got a photo here that was sent to me. And I hold on there, I'm going to pull it up. And they got a list, the great list, dehamnican Jackson. All be at Lee. Frank Crosse with Ashley Tatten. That's one of one of the label leaders that

17:53Malik SQL like the reference. Carva Faro, Hugo Dennis Jr. E. Mospita Sr. Ralph T. Manjou. That's my people. They're Freddie Joseph, Frederick Joseph from all over the West. And of course, Louis Antonio Tito Morales, man. You know what I mean? And I think I was listed here. So we come back and run through them, but it's good to see that on Facebook. I got a lot of people recognizing about great US Virgin Islands, a global label. Lead us throughout the day. What's that got, great? And be back right after this. Healthcare costs are continuing to rise. Bank of St. Croix offers health savings accounts for individuals

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20:13So we melt the two together to give you the most financial empowerment. To necessitate at 8pm on WTJXTV channel 12. WTJX is underwritten in part by cost you less. Your local warehouse retailer offering a wide variety of grocery items, bulk size, everyday essentials, and household necessities to run your home or business located at 4300 Sion Farm, Christianstead 3407194442 or costueless.com. Costueless is proud to support public media in the Virgin Islands. I'm back here and I'm gonna raise this. Since we mentioned Quelbe,

21:24since you mentioned La Vigga, Caracelano is reading about quadril and the music and all stuff. I said I'm bad manja to produce. And of course you know bad manja is the ultimate. Is the quadril and them right to need balance. See ladies for what our last stuff right. So we're gonna play that bad manja and then we're gonna play the second version of La Vigga, Caracelano. Now I live with them the way before we started, you will talk. Sean Quaker sent me a text. He said go day, never that song might be one of the first that promoted the concept of boycotted. So I responded to him and I said the Virgin Islands is the Fungan Island. Re-rebellions right. Re-rebellion long before that boycotted. Remember not forget to know. We're seven years come this November away from one of the most historic anniversaries in the history of

22:29the Virgin Islands. That's 1733, Bellian, Ainor Joke and that led to big things happening to row the Caribbean. You understand? So we got to give props to the Aquamu right now and says that's over there in Xinjiang right who the concept of re-bellion and wanting more and freedom right. Got to keep that in mind as well right. Whenever you're ready bring that quadril anti-emdekal bad manja. I know a Bronco listening you want to enjoy hearing that saxophone there. Mam mam mam hollanda. 1733, Re-bellion. So there we go. Jiaman, this is it. The name of Quadril

23:36okay tell him we start telling him start in a time. 830 okay yeah yeah. Jiaman, tell him for me please. Psycho, right? So they call here this. They call here the saxophone and the bad joke and you'll be a stop and this question. Oh guys, hey, banjo, don't be telling me. Don't be telling me that so that can pull up. He's my name is banjo. Oh guys. That saxophone's beat. Man man man man man. And you for for music thing. David, you Frank from French Tom, Chinota Fin, Jan Alla, you. Yeah, I see, well, the music, no? The champion.

24:37Oh, yeah, she the band, you. Yes, sir. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. Ladies, follow me. Don't be chained or sing. That is my joy out. Careful of mexology, you're the human.

25:38I go here, I steal, though. That guy, yeah, that guy, he's from one of the West. Oh, guys, he the beast, that's my god, no? No, no, no, no, no, no. Banzone. Oh, yeah, that guy, that guy. Oh, yeah, that guy. That guy, that guy.

26:45Oh, man. Oh, man, oh, man. Oh-oh-oh, oh-oh-oh. Oh-oh-oh-oh. babe Yes, that's the the quadril anthem bad man, yeah, featuring. Oh, hello, Williams and this accident food and all that good stuff. Before bringing him Alex, you cool. I'm just wanting to know that I keep telling. I don't know that we learn on a daily basis.

27:46And Sean Krueger takes me and said, don't forget the, the 1675 Barbados slave conspiracy known as coffees revolt or coffees conspiracy. And was a early highly organized plan by enslaved Africans to overthrow colonial rule and the island. And the key facts of the 1675 conspiracy and slave a can man from the gold coast, modern day, Ghana named coffee whom the rebels planned to crown as king. And the plan was enslaved people across multiple plantations coordinated to rise up. And June 12, 1675, signalling the revolt by setting sugar cane fields on fire at the sound of trumpet shells killing their enslaved and establishing their own government. And enslaved woman named fortuna or Anna overheard the conspirators and reported the plot to a plant named Jail's hall who informed governor Sir Jonathan Atkins.

28:48And then after my colonial authorities acted swiftly to suppress the plot, executing at least 35 people through brutal methods and imprisoning others. And then later on, they had the the boss rebellion in 1816. Welcome to analyze this. I'm Alexi Kuga morning. How are you? Morning. Morning. Morning. How's it going? Yeah, I'm pleased to calling. Yeah, but glad to have you on a business lady or no? Well, a lady, which is historic in and of itself, but to me it's also almost an anniversary of the hurricane, armor situation. Yeah, that was yesterday, right? The six right? The six right? Yeah, but the way armor hit us felt like it hit us for three days. But three days, you could have been from the fifth to the seventh. You're a man. And then I know how to double war because I was struggling to get tarps on and then

29:52and then Maria hit two weeks later. Yes, and if you want to send that hit, then the last just a couple days because you know, I hope that younger people begin to document our history. But my memory is on the eve of armor, then by team, I direct I think I know it's miss going up bonds. I had a presentation for the registration of Friday and then the administration, the hot administration was guarded optimistic that it wouldn't intensify. I was at a time working with Senator Janet Manet Young. We are kind of nervous, but you know, before Hurricane Armor, we didn't quite understand how quickly we seem to intensify. So it seemed in those days the days didn't up to armor that was just, you know, something to look at and not be worried about.

30:53So she gave her presentations saying that, you know, there's a they get them prepared. We are getting prepared as a territory, but we're not that concerned. And then the Saturday was calm. The Sunday was not so confident. I don't know about Monday to go panicking. Tuesday was a double war. I mean, yeah, it was a lot. But it was rough. It was rough. And the main hit was the Tuesday night or the Wednesday night? It felt like what today is decided either, but it continued into the following day. And if you live in St. John, the cut St. John suffered from some sailboats had sunk in between like in Kusbe. So you were isolated in St. John. So for St. Johnian, we looked at a long night man that even though the winds were gone, still caught off from everybody. And then within 13 days, here comes Maria. Another one. So it really was an experience.

31:55So, you know, this time of the year, we got nervous. I heard the previous lady from Puerto Rico explaining about how September, this September is so hot, she called it warm, but I call it hot. It's so hot and we have to get nervous because hot September is being something good for us, you know. So it's an important time. But that's the day. But they are never. I would like to, you know, suggest that for people after it can be sent, those are also the Caribbean. The struggle for labor is also a struggle against labor because labor itself is forced labor. So for many of us in the time as our labor leaders by definition had to be those who fought against slavery in the very beginning. So the anti-slavery movement, the anti-stabby movement, the emancipation movement,

33:00by very nature, was like a precondition before the Caribbean modern labor movement. And so in St. John, 1723 would be a step in the right direction. In St. Croix, 1848 and 1878, those are huge steps in which our ancestors fought to eradicate any form of servitude. And so St. Croix really was like the hard land for the St. Croix lands, forced labor and its logical that the German army would be that post, that post-docs that take up the mantle around the radar. Of course, like you mentioned in that list of leaders, St. Croix would have so many embaleders across St. Croix is the hard land for labor struggle. So a series of leaders came out to St. Croix, be they got cross-wrake, human harassed, he's more of an agilogue, kind of political organizer, labor leader.

34:06Who else? Later on, Fajic Joseph, who was bothered that the meat would be lived in St. Croix for a long time? Yeah, Ralph Mantruh. Ralph Mantruh, I think he was born, helped me grow up in a lot of latin st. I'm a st. St. Croix, a st. Croix, a lot of time. Yeah. So you can please leaders, even those who came from other places, they made St. Croix their home, made it very very home, made massive contributions to our labor and conditions. And so, and then contributions transformed. You mentioned, you mentioned, I see Tatan? Oh yeah, but I should talk, I should talk in great, but he's great in this thing. In the mainland, yeah, yeah, walking with, in Philip Randolph, I'm sorry. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I believe we got, we got to hear him in the next line, right? Good morning, Duane. That's correct, uh, me and Dr. Morris are on. Oh, you got Dr. Pat Martin, right? Martin, Martin, happy life, buddy. Good morning. Good, no, man, you, wait, look at you, you were partying out, we can't lag, why you songstrang this, man, ain't we? I'm actually one man.

35:08That's what, that's what, go here, hear it in your voice. No, I have been like something, my host, thank you very much. Drinking water, my, my business. Oh, okay, good thing, good thing. Only, only possible, says Doc is cool, that's it. Morning, Mr. President, good morning, Malik. Why? Morning, Peppa Pat. Morning, morning. I'm going to be a man. Oh, yeah. So today is what's today is with Cindy and solidarity in the world in Ireland. Here it is. That's why I talk about that. That's why I talk about when I were growing up in the 70s. This is what a big weekend for Eastern Caribbean. I know he's got a village and I kind of think. Remember doing an impact on St. Greg, big village on St. Greg. Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. Different islands coming down

36:09King Street and all that stuff you ever. We need to go back to that. Yes. Now apart. We had that conversation. Everywhere you were, where I was kind of zoning in on culture and picking up from a previous show you had and how we can, you know, effect. You know, the, the, the, the promotion of the culture getting people to buy in and this kind of stuff. And that's one of the things we spoke about with Paul tradition, especially the festival here. I think we're in a sense of change for dramatically. Like it doesn't look the same as the festival that we were working. Well, you know, changes. You know, the one constant in life has changed, right? But the reality is a lot of the, a lot of the things and events that we're working on. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We took down from granted on we chatted my way and we need to bring them back because that is what distinguishes the Virgin Islands from everywhere

37:10else. I agree. I'm telling you something other, twin of that. Yes. I was being a melting pot is not just talk. It's real. You know, here's one thing I'm saying. I know. You know, I'm saying, you know. We took down from granted on we chatted my way and we need to bring them back because that is what distinguishes the Virgin Islands from everywhere else. I agree. So, I think it's a lot of the things that we talk. It's real. You know, here in the 30s. So, I thought we'd buy into the young people concept that everybody from the West images is the same. Yes. Yeah. The fire went this way. We can't be the complains about it, but yet every we doing it. Every Caribbean conference in Jamaica. I got into the desert. So, yeah. Yeah. We got news for that one. We're all Africans, but we're not all Jamaicans. There you go. But this is a great photo. I don't know if I can see that. I can see that. I can see that. I know. It's a real good photo that. And I can see that. We say Henry. Call. And the Marys and

38:12Sequib. I can see that. I know. I mean, this is a powerful photo. That day. That I found on Facebook. So, check out the photo during the break. I know. I know. I know. Malik. Malik. I don't know. You know. Hold on. Yeah. But we can. I can'tased. Oh nice. Yeah. Hold on. Hold on. I'll go. I'll go. Me. It'll take a break. Come back. I'll go. You actually have permission to say where I'm going. I will. He is. I will. I yield to the inevitable. We'll be back right after this. Pedestrian safety is a responsibility of both motorists and pedestrians. Pedestrians use sidewalks and crosswalks we're available. We're bright reflective colors especially at night. Walk in well-lit areas and reduce distractions like four news and loud music.

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41:23And there's a heat advisory in effect from 10 a.m. to 5 p.m. Good morning once again to the table talk. Glad to have everybody on. Morning. It's like talking about I get a photo. The only thing missing is the only thing I want to say about the photo that I try not to be critical, but this all money before too. It would have been nice to have. That's what we were saying. It's not just that they missing women. The first maybe you need us women. That's right. The first maybe you need me very and Matilda. But I'm really. Yeah. And then the second set was the call woman. The next time.

42:23Yeah. And say tell us. Yeah. But I. But this this clearly. Before the man. Yeah. This clearly is a is a is a 20th century. Yeah. A 20th century. So that's a day or jacket and day. Day by day on a ribbon. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I have a friendly amendment to a Tony and I don't agree with what he just said in the in the insurrection and. I don't think we really grab the significance. That was the largest. Interaction and Danish. Well, you don't want to see them. But I don't look at the interaction into it. Look at those human rights freedom movement as opposed to the labor of you. You are. And. Remember the slave.

43:23They have a neighbor contract with the mass. After slavery was abolished, we do as a social contract between the employees and the employers. And that's where the labor. I think that's the definition of labor that we all meant to think of. And I have a saying in the 1870s in the election. There's on the call of fireball. It was the largest. In the right. Against the Danish. For your sister ever. Largest. But you have to get a part. They want just women who let. They want at least. At least. 14 men. And men were. Three men visited the poor women to Denmark. People don't know that you know. It wasn't just. That's all. But. The regular women are given the most commonly called the Danes considered the most.

44:25The. The Danes said that the women. Was seen as the most. All of them, but the other others involved. There was a whole set of leaders and many of the men from the eastern Caribbean. Bob. We made rules for man. Yes, but you. That's the point. I remember when he came to say, but did I not say that there's a lot of other names that people. Don't know about that is excluded. I know I said that. Nobody even. And you talk about that. And agree to you. And agree with you. Just try and fight three four minutes. No, I'm saying. I'm talking. That was in the side by. He put it on the public. No. I'm saying. I agree with you. What you said in the. I like. I like. I like.

45:25I like. I like. I like. I like. I like. I like. I like. I like. I like. I like. This one. Yeah. No, but no. No, but. No, but. Not. You're saying that it had 14 months along with the woman and. Yeah, He's correct. He's correct. Yes. This intimate. This. This doesn't diminish the women. This does not. This just shows. Right. There was like 20 plus people in leaders, right? Men were excluded. But they did that. Exceited women because in the Danish practice at a time, they didn't execute women anymore. And they send the four women. Not three. Four women. They're not. considered the most pairs of everybody else. They were seen as the most aggressive. That's why law because they and Queen Mary was even seen the most pairs of pairs. That's what she had repression of three lady bodies of the players. But I was saying that to sit at home, I think many of

46:30us, we stopped at the four-clock level of adolescence. She was a step forward to realize that in syncoid and left of resistance was great. What we think it was, not just the bonn on the place because of the labor code. No, the one who transformed the society. That's one is she second issue. Yes, she jumped on top of it. But there's a fairly many agree with that. But but it was in essence and labor rebellion. I did that. I just said that. It was a very important way. Hold on, hold on. One I was listening to the discussion and another, the vice that we go here, some night growing the story. So it was just the way it is. It was so the world's apologies. So sorry. The same total part for the syncoid and syncoid. They wanted to have three days of movement. They wanted to stop the usage of beaten people with whips. It wanted to labor with thousands over conditions of the society. Okay. We're just about more money. But

47:32but don't labor, don't labor unions. Usually include social issues anyway in their gender. All labor union. I don't know any labor union or labor movement size. It's just been above money. The socialist ones demand everything. Not not the other ones. There you go. That's right. That's really good. So so so so. I mean, never a part of the issue here with this discussion with the two professors there is that you know we are we are using somebody else definition, you know of our history as we try to fit it into is it time labor rebellion? Is it that insurrection? Is it a you know a fight for human rights? You know based on these definitions that you know let's say if it you know other people have you know have have made up you know but what we really yeah and what we need to do what I would like to hear us talk more

48:36about today is you know what you know the movements of the past you know mean for us today and what are ways that we should go forward you know right at and dealing with you know somebody else's definition of what we have done in the past. No no but that's our definition is for us I'm concerned is irrelevant what is relevant is what we want what we need and what we are looking to do going forward. Well the whatever growing up and dark school let me bring you in let me bring you in dark school the central Lima council was a highly recognized and respected institution in the Virgin Islands and that as we speak is no more and that's unfortunate and I believe the central Lima council was where all the local unions would come together recognize that at the end of the day they had one purpose which was to make sure that the rights of employees in the territory whether

49:38it be public or private sector are respected and wages and salaries were commensurate with the time of the day you know so maybe there needs to be some kind of internal come together with our local labor unions dark school and get a CLC back to where it was back in the day. I believe that is true never one of the things I look forward to when I was younger and lay by day if I was in New York with my uncle going on party of the we were in the labor union had a party level. Is that part quick? Yeah, in some part about often in St. Thomas they had a big party open content with content rules is right now right they are seldom proper teacher of government and they put up content

50:43rules up in thing and it was a big labor party man everybody was them and drinking and party and and that was a culmination of all the labor unions coming together and having this big party like parents and Thomas I don't know if they had anything similar and it's incredible that was basically it's all coming together for the issues all the issues the money you know the social cars the walking time this other whole stuff that was one of the best thing we look forward to hearing and Thomas I don't know like I said I don't have anything and I ain't like my least member but but but dogs so I tell you my memory how a different memory I think what caused that change the politics you didn't want to mention the politics but there was a time when the labor union was the shatala in politics oh yeah yeah when all the ugly and that generation

51:43up until the 80s if the labor movement supported you has governor you won you win yeah you're correct and along the way the leadership began to make deals that didn't work out in the benefits of the people and the labor unions they didn't have a lot of power and today the labor leaders were in bed with the with with with with with the administration yes yes yes yes that's what happened and agree we get and I'll be very honest on them I know I'm going to be very harsh they what happened at war development is the union the unions have totally sold out totally okay you hear it every day and I have been working in agencies as far as the management as you the what the representation of so many unions given the purpose unbelievable unbelievable you know and they've actually refused to represent people in in this field that

52:47out in a nonsense you know you take away do the utility that you in regardless of what I did you still have to decelerate mm-hmm that's correct and I'm really honest what I did you collect my money I'll use this and you don't tell me or no you don't such I'll touch you and you're wrong this is insanity and that's what's happening or wronging at any government employees but how they show right now and tell you that I am parking the truth yeah well I don't like that analogy being in bed with them the fact I have all kinds of implications but yes that's so low because I recall yeah I recall one of the I would say the nails that really buried the union was when they had an 8% cut that was a sad day in the post I don't know if you call that situation number for your senate that a level around the 8% cut it was it was it was four of us

53:49no hold no no no no no no no no no no let me give the history man because I was a daddy day right for I think I know three senators for sure and I believe it's four four senators four senators voted against it right to include at the time Senator Tarek's positive Nelson okay you know no he's positive T. Ineltson let me reveal rarely at Neville James along I believe Craig Washington voting with us no no Craig Washington Craig Washington voted with us yeah the other 11 voted for it claiming you know because the administration at the time of the young administration and it was a two-year deal from I believe July 1 2011 to June 30th 2013 at that time doc school was a majority leader when when when when it ended when the two-year deal ended you know I'm saying and yeah but what happened was but the courts right and this is where the judicial branch showed

54:52leadership they said we will manage our financial issues and deficits internally the 8% won't apply you know I'm saying so we got to give we got to give yeah we got to give them credit you know I'm saying but at the time the young administration had had its way with the legislature telling them this is how we're going to be and all at that and blah blah blah and all that stuff are we were telling them you know if if if we look at the math correctly they can remember not governor young laid out some people six months later right after um because that happened I believe July 1 2011 and then the Hovenser refinery shuttered in January at 2012 they're about right so what happened was you know we were going to choose some financial hardships so we just call us being a right but but but but but I don't know if the 8% was the right way to go and I I voted according

55:57my vote was no let me let me go in your part I want you out the hammy club I am not in that is the only issue no I observe among many of the public sector people really had a broken heart I would probably go to school to visit this and teach us the way that the 8% was implemented as well as some of the termination there were times when police are coming come from the campuses and have to leave teachers leaving and then put yourself a back in front of students yeah man yeah man he's gonna stand why that's what I did to this community heartless uh-huh and where would it label unions when it happens and this this is this is on written history I want to ask why the label unions lost because you know I that's at a critical time we would enable leaders yeah and I'm for the record I'm for the record and I don't want to

57:02say no for the record because people like to spread misinformation we're going to break the senators and the governor lieutenant governor were a part of that 8% salary reduction contrary to popular belief of people say but they gain it only we gain it that was not the case everybody took the hit the yeah we'll take a break we'll go ahead go ahead and the pd will be funny to that we'll take a break and then we'll be back right after this you welcome to milk streets my family recipe we bring home cooks to our Boston studio where along

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