Mí No Black | Bonus Episode

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3:03Who are you calling a bitch ass nigga today? I can't wait to hear it. Hey, let me take your seat. Yo, bitch ass nigga, the week. We should do we can go outside the wall. We should do band of the week. Ooh, band of the week. We ready for that time of our way? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, wait, we recorded, huh? What? New segment alert. What's he you buy? No, no, no, no, you. No, no, no, no. Every week, you like the donkey today, you got to do the bitch ass nigga first time. Bitch ass nigga the week. Bitch ass nigga. Then we would have to who's considered a nigga. My mom always say, you know, we. My mom always says that nigga is a person who don't know how to act. Nope. Not this week. Not this week. Not this week. I know, right? So that makes for does that make fat Joe and nigga? Cause he never know how to act. Cause he is a nice guy. No, how to act. By the way, if y'all did realize yet this bonus episode.

4:03Let's talk about race, baby. Let's talk about you and me. What they said, what do you say a couple of episodes? Everything is about race. Everything is about race. Everything is out. Everything. Everything. No, so like I was in the gas station this morning, 399 a gallon. And you blame me. I felt attacked. I felt like that was racist. That's my pockets. I do that shit all the time. I do that shit playing. I'm like, you know, I'm gonna. I'm like, I'm like, what is this racist? When the last time you just you said, you know what? I'm only gonna put 20 in today. And I'm gonna wait for it to go down, hoping then to go down. You know what? I've not only have I put 20 in there. I'll put 20, but when I do 20, I put 87. Yeah. Regular. Regular. Regular. Regular. Yeah. Well, I'm trying to think the last thing I thought was racist. Oh, I'm not gonna lie. I think. And I love them so much. Jesus. Delta's prices right now. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I'm not gonna lie. So I had to buy a flight last night to LA because I got to work in LA next. Next month. And I. I'll leave the price and that's it.

5:04I think you're trying to keep us out. Oh, look at that. And I was like, I do not like this. No, they playing games. No, they're playing games with my heart. But yeah, let's get into all of the hoop fly y'all this whole episode. We are gonna get into the nitty gritty. We are back from holiday break. I am. I'm brown. Yeah, yeah. Nobody can do anything. I'm back from Jamaica. I'm. You know, we have to change the lighting for me this week. He said ain't gonna be no white mama jokes in the comments. And they ain't gonna be no confusion. They say. They have a user. You make it that they have anybody with the Ravens. You know, it's crazy. One, one guy actually did have them on. And I looked at him and I was like. You're not in the group chat. Are you? He's like, why would happen? I said, if you want to get jumped. So literally immediately he was like, oh, I don't. I'm not a creep.

6:04He was like, he's there. My shades. And I was like, yeah, no. I said, uh, change your glasses now. There's a million types of glasses. A million types. I can't believe Jamaica's are doing that shit. I'll figure Jamaica's. No, no, no, he was very American. You know, you could take an advantage of what the what the vibe is going to be. Well, he's going to be. He wasn't. He said he wasn't the. You get over there. Okay. The thing is, it's a nude resort with public. Right. Yeah, right. Yeah, yeah. No medical. No medical. So we had already talked about it. It's a thing that isn't really welcome on the resort at all. Right. Because even cameras. So. Yeah. You can get the camera. Walk around with your medical. I'm. Jamaica's. I know it is. It's Babylon. It's Babylon. It's Babylon on him. It's Babylon on him. Fist. Okay. I love the accent. Okay. I know. I know. I know. That's the way it sounds. Labor day. Labor day. This is racist, guys. No, no.

7:04I'm just jumping in and out of. I'm part of it. I'm part Caribbean. So I get a patch. But you're not, but you're not Jamaican. So what? Well, I'm just a nigga out of Barbados. But look. The best currency in the Caribbean. Pay our head. I'm. I'm not going to lie. If you guys want to have a lot of fun during this episode, um, you could either do a bump or a shot every time we say nigger. Okay. Oh. And it's crazy. What? Why to celebrate black is crazy. Yeah. I like you. You. You go. First off. Okay. I'm ready to find. Is she encouraging the bumpage? Hello. You had you a good time of heating it. Indeed. Yeah. It's a good thing. I'm. What? I think I slow. A happy day. Yeah. I think I slow. I was just going to do this. Is it going to be perfect? I'm not going to lie. I'm going to. I slow a happy pill. I literally was like bitch, I never felt so happy, Beaufo. It was cute. Anyways, let's get into the hoopla. Of course, I did join in on the conversation

8:05over on Elon's app and boy, boy was I, I was annoyed. I was annoyed with a lot of the responses, just with the conversation, with the lack of people being able to hold a conversation. Basically, we are getting into what I don't think will be the wrap up of this conversation because we've had this one kind of before. Yeah, several times. But that Joe recently went on the Joe button podcast and the calls asked him about his usage of the inward and Joe defended himself by saying he grew up on the same exact block where hip hop was created. And then he also proceeded to say he is the the the the blackest nigga in the world. The blackest nigga you ever seen, you ever seen me on? He's looking up. And we said, look at how much like, look it up by what, like 23 and me, like 23. Where's the, where are we gonna look up the shoot of blackest nigga that we ever seen in our life? You know what's crazy about that? Now I will say the room was silent.

9:05Of course. All the black kings on that pod were silent during that. However, Mark Lamont Hill, who was not on that episode, he took to respond and if you could pull that up, it's interesting because I get that when you're potting sometimes, you know, you don't, you want to like respect your guests sometimes. So maybe that's what that sense was. But let's listen to what Mark had to say about his thoughts on what Fed Joe appeared on the Joe button podcast where I am a co-host. Fed Joe is as good as it gets when it comes to an interview subject. I wasn't there for the interview. Some of you asked why just to be clear, I am never there for that episode. That is the Friday pod. But in that interview, our brother Imani asked him a question. He referenced Fed Joe's use of the inward in the past. And he said, and I'm gonna read the quote

10:06because I don't wanna say it wrong. He said, you had a very strong opinion on, yo, this is my culture too. Fed Joe seemed a little agitated. He said, what's the question? He said, do you feel like there was any point where you were wrong and what you represented. And they're getting at this inward conversation, they're getting at this inward piece. And fundamentally, he's asking why he thinks it's okay to use the inward if you're not black. Fed Joe said something that has made the internet go of just ablaze. One thing is he defended his use of the inward, but he specifically said, I'm the blackest here, you know. Right? I'm the blackest here you've ever seen in your life is the exact quote. I am the blackest in the history of ever seen in your life. You also said, I'm asking about the hip hop. The whole chess word question. He said, are you crazy? This is a no brainer. I grew up in hip hop where they invented hip hop. He said, guys, I don't know if you can fathom that. I'm from the black that invented hip hop. Mellie Mel, Grandmaster Flash. The girls who used to babysit me, they invented, let me hear you say, ooh, that's Grandmaster Flash.

11:07I grew up with Mellie Mel, right outside the window playing basketball. Now, Aking, you, before we get into just the layers of this word, I wanted to start with the association of hip hop because that's the first thing you say when you walked into this room. So I want to lean into that word because we did talk about a couple of weeks ago when we were talking about why people that passed it, even Eminem has said the word before. A lot of people within the culture, I've even saw a video where JLo had to do this. Where JLo had to defend herself in the usage of the word, even though JLo wrote it. But that word, because hip hop is black, is present in a lot of our music. Sure. But I don't think it justifies you saying it. So Aking, what are your thoughts on him using hip hop as his reasoning here? What do I think about his usage of, well, I think the, I love the conversation that's happening. Okay. I remember growing up and my parents would have

12:09like Gil Noble on the weekends. And you would hear a lot of intellectual conversation about culture, about societal issues, about politics, whatever it is. It's usually rooted in black and white conflict or discourse. And I think, first, I think we should all embrace the idea of discussion in debate. Okay. Without trying to harm nobody because it could get intense. So even when we about to give our opinions on this, they're gonna be people that don't like this shit. But that don't mean we got to get to the point where we want to cause harm to somebody because it's a very sensitive conversation. Nigger, the word Nigger predates hip hop. It does. If you go back and you listen, if you watch the old, let's say city 48 movies and you know, coolie high and all that, they may say job turkey. They may, they always say, my brother, my brother. Right? Really did they say Nigger? Now there was Nigger usage. But the use was a,

13:11the final boss of the conversation. Ah, Nigger. That meant something. There's a reason why that was there, right? So yes, because of hip hop music, the frequent use of it, I think it kind of, it created a bridge for that term, amongst people who are adjacent to it, whether they lived in the Bronx or the five boroughs of New York City, which also, that's another thing. I think that conversation is strictly, for the most part, a New York conversation. No, it's not. No, no, listen, listen, listen, I'm gonna get there. Yeah. Meaning the conversation that he's talking about, oh, I could use it because it's hip hop started in the Bronx. I'm not sure how it resonates with somebody in Atlanta or Virginia or the West Coast, right? But it makes it a broader, a larger conversation because of platform. Your platform reaches millions of millions of people who may not have no historical context. So when they hear him say it, they're like, oh shit, it's cool. Now I've seen other Latinos from the West Coast, for instance,

14:13I saw a clip with these two, I believe they're Mexican rappers and they were saying they use it because of hip hop. It's a cool thing. I remember going in Queens, I'm driving around Richmond Hill, Queens, where it's predominantly Indian or Guyanese. And I won't, I'll save the Guyanese aspect because they have a different inflection, but like Indian kids, but yo, my nigga, my nigga, my nigga, my nigga, my nigga. And I'm like, the music, it goes back to the hip hop. But that, there has to be course correction. There has to be. There has to be course correction, because it's not cool, because there's an ancestral press of aura that's attached to that shit. And I put in a group chat, say everybody want to be a nigga to the time to be a nigga. Which is why even did you see the, his arrest record? Who? That Joe, it says white. It doesn't save life. Well, that's it. It says white. Wow, that's crazy. We talk about race and color, that's class. We, people identify as white because of the status.

15:14But so, so that's my problem. The same thing. I mean, not, no, I can't. No, I can't, we all could, we get all, they don't give a fuck. You can just put white. Sure. When I was 14 years old, I was kidnapped and health captive for nine months. I survived and I've spent my life exploring how other people survive what should have destroyed them. I'm Elizabeth Smart and these are the survivor files. I just remember this low taunting voice next to my ear saying, shut up, don't say anything. Every week, I'm with survivors who live through the unthinkable. I knew if he woke up without a doubt, he was going to hurt me. I started feeling that there was someone at the end of my bed and I just started screaming. They are abducted, stalked, controlled, and nearly silenced. But these aren't stories about what's taken from them. They're stories about what it takes to make it out alive.

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20:23It can be a time where you push your limits, change your mind, or wake up to a new version of yourself. So whether you're a solo travel veteran or you're too nervous to book your first trip, I hope you listen to Solita on the I Heart Radio app, Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. I guess my issue with this is, there's also a lot of races that for whatever reason actually know to respect and not say the word. Sure. Because they're aware that it's a slur. Yeah. If used in the wrong context and so for me, growing up in Orlando, Florida, every Latino, my best friend growing up, I had a Mexican best friend, I had a Colombian best friend, and I had a Puerto Rican best friend. And when I say the way that their families, first generation, their parents used the word Niga was always as a slur. And so I was the friend that was blamed as to why their daughters liked Niga's, liked black boys.

21:24What were interested in, what do they call it? Black Niga, Niga, Niga, Niga, Niga, Niga, Niga, Niga. The way they even say Niga in their own language. And so for me, him coming in and blaming even the proximity, like I grew up in blended neighborhoods. That never made me feel like I could use the slurs and call them that. You know what I mean? Right. And so it's actually interesting. I had this, I've had this conversation. Y'all have probably seen it on my other podcast. I've said it, I do not allow Latinos to use the word around me. And it's simply because I don't care if you've had black dick inside of you or you even made a black baby, I know that the parents that you have raised you with racism in the household. And so any inkling of you coming from a racist home

22:25to meet Niga your usage of the word at all. And so I don't respect at all this twist of, well, I'm from New York and I grew up in their building. All y'all my fuckers that went and moved to Mexico during the pandemic. Y'all was just out there saying, went back and shit. Right. Y'all became Mexican because y'all live by Mexicans. No. Right. Yeah, but see, no, but it's not. So that's the thing. They're saying what we grew up in this building with black people so we can say it. I grew up around a lot of different cultures. It doesn't give me the right to use the slurs to them either and it doesn't make me any more like them. Right. And that's the other thing. I moved to New York. I lived in New York for 13 years. I thought she was in the weekend. I've never stuck my dick. I did. I thought she was stuck my dick. I thought she was stuck my dick. I thought she was born in first man. I thought she was born in first man. No, no, no, he did. He played. They walked in like they gave it all for the weekend. So let me tell you what else I know

23:26that's moving to New York. And why I thought this whole conversation was bullshit. You know who's even more racist than the Latinos in Florida? The New York Dominicans. Oh, yeah. When I tell you, when I tell you the Dominicans in New York, maybe and I used to go to Dykeman and we might look at it as soon as we open our mouth. They don't know what he like. They don't want that. They don't want that. They don't want that. No, no, no. And then I remember like just in the neighborhood, like I got a nose ring one time. And literally my driver was like, Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no. You look more black with that. Take it out. You look more black. And I'm like, what? The way Dominicans are, and by you, you have to understand, you also have to understand their culture, right? That's tricky. Like the way that their culture is based on the separation between Haiti and Dominican Republic. Same Island. The same Island. It's Maniola. Same Island, one divide.

24:26And the history there makes them hate the color of their skin when they're too dark. Makes them hate black people. Very loaded. It gives them the same kind of colorist tones that we've experienced throughout our history. So to me to want to align at all, when you guys also lean yourself heavily to the proximity of whiteness, the same with the Cubans of Florida, same with the Puerto Ricans of Florida. Like when they come here, they don't see themselves as black. They're working hard. They're going to make money. They're white. The Latinos of Florida are white. The Dominicans in New York are very, very, very, very colorist and very racist to black Americans. So the fact that majority of Latinos, let's not just make the support of the American, did like the majority of Latinos don't like black people. And when I say don't like black people, let me be clear because yes, they love our culture. They hang with us. They vibe with us. Unfortunately because of the U.S. of A, a lot of them live within our same communities, right?

25:30They're raised with us. But when you look through the lineage of how they view African Americans, they would never, they never want to be black. They like black culture. Like it, I want it because shout out, shout out to, you know, we got our patrons, we got our Latinos. But I know, bitch, I know you went Florida too. So I know you see it. They'll never, it's funny. And I say this too because I don't know if you saw the other video going around Dominican Day Parade. There was a Dominican going around saying, are you black? Me no black. Yeah. Me no black. Well, I think that that's a, that's the troche. So Nika is, Nika is for African Americans. Yes. And the culture within that, let's be very clear. I was born in America. I black, I black. I'm black. I'm like as an American, but I'm also understanding that I currently, my lineage goes back to Jamaica. My daddy, you're on a green card. My grandma's on here on a green card.

26:31Yeah, yeah. And maybe he need to get this shit together. Yeah. But like my grandma, everyone is my, I'm first generation here. And so when I, and look, they probably gonna be like, well, bitches, what you're making, you probably can't say. Right. The NBA is a demo going to be on your ass. The NBA will, but I'm born here. I'm black here. That's a fact that we got an ice cream. No, it's not. No, it's not. They did it themselves. They did it themselves. No, I get, I get the intent in terms of saying there's a difference, right? They studied the brand. What's happening is even within that, there's a lot of man-ass-fish going on in the end. There's a lot of conservative right wing shit. Very red-pin. I think that's where it gets a little tricky. Well, see, but that's what's fucking everybody up, right? Race, nationality, ethnicity. My fucking God. Yeah, Nika's a very, very hard time. I got separated. Well, this is why I go back to when I mentioned Gil Noble. We, what we have to do now, because everybody's talking on these platforms. We need to have some roundtable of some intellectuals along with the people who are having this

27:36course. And I think we just need understanding, because the thing is I have an issue with, when it is an issue within our community, whether it's a kid that gets, you know, a victim of police brutality or anything like that. Or if a woman was a, you know, being abused by, you know, white, whatever. I don't see these people who claim our culture. So that's the issue that I have. So, you know what, maybe we wouldn't have an issue with whoever says whatever, if they would participate in the societal element, because hip hop is just one thing. But also, but I, I, I, I, balls and air holes to these oppressive situation through the music. Yeah. You know what I mean? So we don't get NWA. Even though I know people have their thoughts about, you know, they were more than gangster rap, but we get, we hear the street tell, we hear the stories, we hear all of this stuff. And also go ahead and say it. I always look at the people around, but around you too.

28:37Like, you know, I'm always, who have you? Who are you helping? You know, what are you doing in the communities? We'll talk about it for how are you helping others when Barry was on, right? And I'm not saying he doesn't, but I think he did this thing about Trump's sneakers. He did. He did. He did. He did. He did. He did. He did. He did. He did. He did. He did. He did. He did. He did. He did. He did. He did. He did. He did. He did. But it was a Latin. I forget the organization or the compartment, that part of whatever's happening over there in the Republican side, but he was there. He was there with them. And I was like, all right, you know, I don't, has he been a part of any of the Black Lives Matters conversations? I don't know. Did he speak up like what would happen to George Floyd? I don't know. I don't want to take away from him, though. I can't, as I'm, as I'm, this is what I'm saying, these conversations are necessary.

29:40I can't, I can see his attachment because he's from the Bronx, and I don't want to, you know, I don't want to, I don't want to, I don't want to, I don't want to, I don't want to, It's very Hispanic. No, no, but hit the thing where he grew up at, right? Farge Projects in particular, it's mainly us, and there's a lot of Latin people there, obviously, and I think that's the community, you know what I mean? That was, well, you go to the barber shop, you go to the stores, you know, you know all the people that's running the store, there is community. So I can see why he aligns him. So I just feel like people are out crying because they probably don't see him enough when shit is in it. So here's a couple of things that I think are already... By the way, can I also just say in an interview, when talking about Black Lives Matter, he followed it with Latino Lives Matter as well.

30:41So in an interview, he explicitly said, Black Lives Matter, Latino Lives Matter. So even the distinction of that, when that's not the conversation during that moment, it's like, that's why these conversations, I would say. This is why Joe, I would love Fat Joe, us, Mark, whoever, this dialogue helps this conversation. Sure, but I think that... By the way, that was a 2022 CBS interview. Sorry, I wanna throw out my sources there. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, no for sure. I think that A, I think the most telling thing about his whole explanation is that he didn't even, not that there would be a good reason, but he didn't even start his justification with his lineage. He started his justification with hip hop and where I was born and all of this stuff, that doesn't have nothing to do really with Nigger and the reason that people would take issue with you saying Nigger.

31:42But people have tried to use our culture to justify all kinds of shit. You even see people, Black people who will say, well, maybe we should all just stop saying Nigger so that they'll stop saying Nigger. I'm like, well, that's not how that works. That's not how that works. Us not saying Nigger is not gonna make, our behavior isn't gonna dictate somebody else's behavior. So if you wanna be punitive toward that person, cool, hold them accountable. They say that shit around you or you don't like that shit, check them. But us not saying it doesn't give people license to also not say it or make them feel like, oh, I can't say it because they don't say it. Cause they don't give a fuck about that. Um, the second part is I do blame, even though I don't know that it's specific to your point about growing up in Florida that it's a specifically New York problem, but I do blame New York for this. Oh, thanks. When I was in eighth and ninth grade, this wasn't even a big controversy at that time, but I remember clearly being at the lunch table talking about rap music and all the kids

32:43that I'm talking to were mostly from New York or from New Jersey, somewhere in the Northeast, and they will always say we all niggas because we all grew up in the same place. They all treat us the same. Like we're all niggas, so whatever, whatever. And it wasn't, again, that wasn't brought up to defend anything. It was just in a manner of talking about shit. That's what they would say. I never heard that down in Atlanta, we have a Latino population, but it's not quite the same thing as how it is in New York. New York seems to be a very specific place where black people and Latin people coexist in a certain kind of way. So down here, that wasn't ever going to be an issue. I don't remember seeing Mexicans or other Latino people, Hispanic people saying nigger around black people in Atlanta. So I don't think that was necessarily the issue. You know, you know who else is here heavily? That doesn't say that either? Asians. Asians are always, throughout our history, Asians have also been integrated within the black community. Sure. Whether the shops or in the stores,

33:44or they live close back. And they're not out here freely saying it. Right, they know. They know. And just because they lived in the culture, just because they were a part of it, whether through the restaurants, through the communities, the services, even we've seen it in centers. The fact that there were Asians in centers, we know that they've been rooted within our culture or within our communities for a long time. Yeah. This conversation isn't being had with them. Yeah, it's just. So that's why I'm just like, and there's also like, there's a whiteness to fat Joe's explanation of it. Because if you didn't know that was fat Joe talking, that's exactly some of the points that you would hear a white person say, why I can say nigger. Yeah. And so there's this thing of wanting access to this word. And the question begs like, why do you want access to this word so badly? So bad. That's the question that has to be asked and answered in a way that it can't just be old because I just grew up saying it. Because at some point, you have people like our brother Rob Markman. Yes. Rob Markman is half white and half Jewish.

34:47His mother is Afro-Latina with some roots up. I think Puerto Rico or something like that. He came out and said, like, I'm taking that word out of my vocabulary. I don't feel comfortable using it. Right. I don't even, he reads a society room. Yeah. He came to understand it. But to me, him saying that, it's a difference. To me, that shows a respect to culture and the history. Right. Just saying, I could say it comes. Because it's the air against them and the air. That's an absolute thing. And I said, for sure it was an air against them. Not only do you feel the need to use this word and say that you're the blackest nigger in the room. In the room. In 2026, knowing that you've aligned yourself with the Republican party and knowing what's happening with so many people across the country that don't look like you. Right. That don't look like you. Yeah. You know what I mean? So to me, yes. He can have a little bit of an air against. Yeah, listen. He has an air against them. I'm never going to take away his contributions to hip hop. And what do you mean? Yeah, that's not the point.

35:48He brought us, I would argue that big pun is probably more negative than him. No, I mean, stop. Beside the rest of the piece of big pun. But the thing is. I kept saying that I was big pun with a lie for this conversation because he had a song called Negus shit or what? Not even ever. I don't want to give a fuck. We gotta save them. No, but pun used to move a little more more what? More scenes like he was more like compassionate to us in the room. I mean, maybe. Maybe. But I think that's what we're looking for for Fat jokes. A little compassion to that conversation. Well, yeah, you have to have that acknowledgement. Well, like even to your point about the Latino people in New York who feel like we're all Negus. So it just is what it is. You have artists like Lefty Gunplay who is very, very adamant about it. And in LA, blacks and browns, there's a tension there between Mexicans and blacks. There is a unity there in some cops. There's a unity and is an effort to say, hey,

36:49we gotta always keep moving toward the unity aspect. Yeah. I think that they're trying to do that more and more. But I think there is an obvious tension between the same thing you talked about in Florida where these kids grew up in these houses where Negus aren't talked about in no nice manner. In a nice way. But Lefty Gunplay was very adamant about. Yes. Do you have that clip? Did you play it from me? Very adamant. Did they ask you? It was like, no, we don't. But that's also upbringing. Well, it's what the way he's Mexican. Yeah, that's your gunplay. Can I also be very? A white Mexican. I'm not president. I'm president of Mexico. I have an inheritance. I have an inheritance. Because I have an inheritance. Okay. Again, growing up in Florida with all of the Latinos, the same way when I'm in Asia and they say like the Indians, the Malay, the dark, the Philippines really are treated like the Niggas of Asia. Yeah, of Asia, right. Mexicans are treated like the Niggas of the Latinos. It used to be offensive. I see that. It used to be offensive. If you asked the Puerto Rican if they was Mexican,

37:50they would feel offended. Right. Like how dare you for a headwind? By the way, I want you all to know this is my upbringing in a very cultural or land of Florida. Like literally, and I say it all the time, our pep rallies, you brush your flags. We segregated ourselves by our countries at our own pep rallies, not by grades, not, there was, this was my upbringing. And so for him to even say that, there's kind of, and look, it built on a border for the Niggas. Like in our country, Mexicans are treated like the work, they're talked about like the work, they're talked about it, because especially as a Latino, but white folks even put them down to the bottom. You have this clip that you're gonna play? Yeah, it leaves the clip about the lefty gum. I forget who we were talking about. So I don't know if it was, oh my head in Mexico. Yes. Niggas. Oh, oh yeah. Oh, I don't switch up. I don't say the anguard in the NMDRX. Did you have to stop at a certain point? I just would never say in the NMDRX, I wasn't raised that way. You didn't grow up saying it at all. I mean, sometimes you know what I was younger like,

38:50but I gotta be about that. You know, I have you real quick, because the blacks around me saw, I never would say it, you know what I'm saying? I'm younger, saying the songs, and they say it in the song like, nah, that's how I'm not black. That's them. They don't say essay, help saveato. They don't, this is like that. And if they do, you know, I feel some tough away, but it is what it is, you know what I'm saying? But LA County judges raises you different. So like, hello. And so I don't know if he's intentional. Yeah, he sounds very intentional, but I know he's a younger guy. I don't know exactly how old he is. So I don't know if this was something that he came to. Well, no, no, no, he said, this is the LA jail system. He said, and I said it when I was younger, and it got beat out of me. I can't say that. I can't say that. But that's what I'm saying. He literally said that word got beat out of me. But he was, I believe he was on Joe and Jada's show saying the same thing to them. Probably not mistaken. He was on this saying, and why he don't say it. But that's what I'm saying. And not that we have to, I would never condone violence.

39:53But the way we're just so welcoming to, yeah, they could come to the cookout. Yeah, they could come here. Yeah, they could say the word. I don't understand why we don't hold just more things to our own. Hold on. I'm gonna. Go ahead. Go ahead. First of all, Puerto Ricans, Dominican is always, they always cook out. They always in the kitchen with us. You ever had plantains before? Yeah, the food is different. Yeah, yeah. I'm sorry, I'll write some beans. All about rice and all about food. Yeah, everybody. Yeah, I know. When I say the cookout, you know what I mean. I'm not talking about in the kitchen, nigga. Oh, okay. I'm talking about like, the cookout. The cookout. Yeah, I, you ever had pernise? I don't eat pork. No, I'm not damn fat. No, because the reason I say it like that is the kitchen. You can't eat your own. Half the niggas who like niggas to the cookout. We have to kitchen. We talk about the kitchen. The kitchen. The cookout. Nah, that's part. You're a buck dog. No, no, the problem is I say it like that. The way you just said it was like, you wanted to put connect your wrist to your chest.

40:53If you grew your hair, I'm guarantee you, at some point, Dominican girl is going to be rating you here. What does that matter? I'm proof of this. What are you saying? I'm proof of this. I mean, listen, I don't want to. No, the reason I say like that is because half the niggas is probably more than half the niggas who invite people to the cookout, ain't invited to the cookout. They damn so. So you invited niggas somewhere that you ain't even welcome at. When I was 14 years old, I was kidnapped and health captive for nine months. I survived, and I've spent my life exploring how other people survive what should have destroyed them. I'm Elizabeth Smart, and these are the survivor files. You just remember this low taunting voice next to my ear saying, shut up, don't say anything. Every week, I'm with survivors who live through the unthinkable. I knew if he woke up, without a doubt, he was going to hurt me. I started feeling that there was someone at the end of my bed,

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47:03If you could pull this clip up, she's set on a podcast and clearly with her white wife, it got into the conversation around not only her being black, but how we view her as being so black because of her character, Raven Baxter, and this is what she had to say. Yeah. And then people are judging me for the things that I'm saying. I'm like, no, no, no. I love my blackness, but my blackness can look so many different ways. Yeah, but you also set up because Raven Baxter was so fucking black that then people took that to be. Was she black? She felt black as hell to me. Why did she feel black to you? Why did she feel black to you? Because it was the first time that I had seen like this black family. So you saw color. Yeah. Take away the color. Give them green. OK. And hear the words. And hear the words. What color are they? Nigger. Because let's be 100. Wait. Who wrote Raven white people?

48:03It was a mix, but white men headed it. Yeah, it was white men. But that's the most part. That's why that show and the good shows matter because it is universal. Here's a fight. Black doesn't. So here's the. She got to come to the line too. I want to add this. I want to add this guy to debate. I mean, I need to really like break the chains on this one because she's talking about it. Black doesn't mean just black. Black can be universal. Black is not a monolith. Black is not a monolith. And black can appeal to all kinds of people. Fresh Prince was a black-ass show that was wildly successful because white people liked it too. And so did Mexicans and so did Asians. Everybody liked fresh Prince. But it was a show about a family. And the concept of the stuff that was going on in the show is universal. Yeah. Family dynamics. Moving away from where you're from to go somewhere else, culture shock, the whole thing.

49:03A lot of different people can relate to that. But black being just because you are a black person doesn't mean that other people can't relate to you. I don't even know why she would say that. Like what the fuck about it? Mine is so funny. Because then on the internet, they started pulling up all these clips of different scenes and that's so raven. They got them rapping in a basketball court. Slinging. They're all kind of shit. Conversations about like even in school, like her navigating, because you know, she has the white friend, but then Orlando Brown is also her best friend. Yes. Her whole household is black. She got the little brother. She got the mom and dad. It's a black family. It was married with children and a black family. No, that was white trash. Nobody was in there. Yeah, not that one. Nobody was in there. But I did want to play. You were too salesman. I did want to play another clip because I know we joked a little bit about FBAs earlier. But there is a clip where she's defending her take. So she was in a 2014 interview with Oprah, where she literally

50:05said I'm not African-American. And this is her defending why she believes she's not African-American. Commenting on something that I said to Oprah back in 2014. So you don't want to be labeled gay? I don't want to be labeled gay. I want to be labeled a human who loves humans. I'm tired of being labeled. I'm an American. I'm not an African-American. I'm an American. Oh, girl. Don't sit up to the side. Now, when that aired, I felt like the entire internet exploded and through my name and the garbage. There was so much backlash from my community and others that misunderstood slash. Yes, that's a lot of work. The exact words that I said. And the exact words that I said is that I'm an American, not an African-American. I'm an American. I'm not an African-American. I'm an American. A lot of people on the internet thought I said that I wasn't black. And I never said that. There's a difference between black and African. When I say that African-American does not

51:08align with me, that label, it doesn't mean that I'm negating my blackness or I'm not black. It means I am from this country. I was born here, my mom, my dad, my great, great, great, great. And that's what I'm saying, the pure logistics of it. I understand my history. I understand where my ancestors come from. I also understand how much blood, sweat, and tears they've soaked into this earth in order to create the America that I live in today, free, happy, tax paying. So the way your face looked, John, get in that ass, pause. Well, she's a woman, so you could get in there. Like if she... She's like that. Bax, she don't like to be right. So you're getting in her ass. So pause. Pause. I don't know where you were getting in her ass. All right, let's move on. Shit. Got you, no. No. Ah.

52:08Ah. Move on. What are your thoughts on this? Because she didn't forget air blackness, but then also we do, we did talk about the FBAs versus... Versus like the people that... FBAs are not in this conversation. Well, she believes that even she said... But that don't make it FBA. No, no, no, but to... Based on her... Based on what she just expressed. Yes. I great, my great, my great, my great, my great is on this land. Yep. And she's like, I know my history and it's in this land. Right. She is to a point negating the transatlantic slayer. Yeah, that's right. And her roots being from over there... And we had that conversation about, you know, people who are arguing about... Rather or not. Black people, whether slaves were actually African or whatever the thing was. But here's the thing about it. In that context, as she was saying it to Oprah, yes, if you're trying to... If you're trying to be that specific about it, then you need to be that specific about it. I'm that. If you just say, I'm not African-American, I'm American. That is exactly what you said. You get explained that what you're talking about. I mean, because that's what I just said.

53:09I literally said, I'm black. I was born here in America. Right. So I'm American, but my family, my dad is from Jamaica. But yes. Say all of that. Just let the hang in the air. Because now... It was the hang in the air. You're doing it to yourself. And you'll come at you, then it's your fault now. And also the remix is not louder than the original song. Never. That's the thing. I think it was very... Because she started with the... I don't want to be called gay. I want to be a human- Yeah, the context. Her transition then to her color to me sounded very all-wise matter. Yes. I'm a human that loves humans. I'm a human being. I'm a human being. I'm a... I'm an American. Right. Every time people say all-wise matter, I always think that they do that because they don't want to say black lives matter. They want to be like, oh no, it's D. Yeah. She also had to defend the... I didn't say I wasn't black. Yeah, but then you turn it to I'm an American. But you might as well... And also, like if her thing was I'm not African-American,

54:10she could have just said, I'm not African-American, I'm black. But you said I'm American as if the American Trumps... And it don't. And it don't. Not in this motherfucking country. Right. So if her point was to make some type of distinction between the two, I can see she said, I'm not African-American, I'm black. That probably would have rubbed some people in the wrong way, but it would have been more understandable for you to say that. For sure. I'm American, I'm like, what did you talk about? But for you to even hate labels in a country that just allowed you to marry your wife. Ooh. That like, like you can't, you can't sit here and want to say I'm a human that loves humans in a country that literally, if you were born literally 20 years earlier, you would have just had the opportunity. Like this is something that just came about, that just became legalized in the last decade. Yeah. What if now want to even remove the label of your sexuality when the way you are currently living your life wasn't allowed less than a decade ago? I'm going to need you to acknowledge that your label actually does impact how you get to walk around

55:12and the things that you're able to do in this country. What an end, your blackness involved. End of the world. How you exist when you get pulled over the jobs you have and as a child actor, I know you've experienced your race being a... Oh, of course. ...something that stopped you from doing something, right? Of course. So the fact that you sit up there with your white ass wife and have the nerve to even say that is just like, you have to, when we talk about acknowledging history, you can't see here and just abolish the one of America when you want to sit there and so proudly say, I'm American and Lisa, I know I'm free. And so fucking linear sinner and street care line and act like that's your culture. Get the fuck out of here. Also, all the lice get, you stay out of this problem. You know, all the lice get people who are just talking about this black shit. It is like, if slavery happens, if we was back in time, they would have been in the house. They would have been snitching all the niggas. All the darker niggas. Harry and my other side they have. Harry would have snitched.

56:12Harry. Oh no, that would have been, that would have tried. Yeah, if they would have been in the yard, we would have worn them like, listen motherfucker. Now, you should have... You might have vetted them. Like, you're asked some basic questions before I just let you come on the road. You know, she was a chitlin last night. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She was talking to me. She was talking to chitlin. She would have shot me. And the answer is, did you eat chitlin last night? You ever smelled chitlin before? Niggas, I was from Florida. You know, it's crazy, my mom tried to cook them one time. She put them in the pressure cooker. I'll never forget this. Oh, what? Put them in the pressure cooker. No, I'm saying, like that's even... No, so ready? You smell them all the smell. Niggas, no, no, no. Maybe they was in there too long. Oh my God, I wish I could car. It exploded. There was chitlins all over the fucking kitchen, the pressure cooker. Got too hot. And the steam blew the time out. I'll never forget it. Chitlins, chitlins all on the ceiling. The shit ceiling. Bruh. That smell and go away from that. Yeah, this is it.

57:12I was like, I was like, let's not eat. It's so funny. Okay, do y'all want to laugh though? So where did you make it? And it's late. It's fall, oh, 305 in the morning. And there's one grill that's open. So there's... So there's... Mind you, I'm high. I'm high. I'm on shrooms. I'm on eat. I'm on liquor. You feel good? Feeling good, feeling great. So we're at the grill. It's about to be literally the last... We're the last burger that gets ordered. Okay. Which ended up in the trash. Because you never take the last order of anything. No, yeah, bad news. So as we're waiting for this last burger, there's like a thing of cookies. Okay. So my man goes to eat the cookie. And he makes me try it. And I'm such a lady. He does nothing. It's crumbling. It's all this. So as we're waiting in line, he's eating the cookies.

58:14And I turn into... I say, you ain't got to eat it. You're not a slave. You do not have to eat the cookie. We have food. Mastin' not making you eat it. What? He's like, mind you, he says that because I love gizzards. I'm a Southern bitch. Oh, yeah, yeah. So when I go up north, I love fried chicken gizzards. And it's always like, you don't have to eat the spicy snowmob. No. I eat Kenny. I eat gizzard. So the joke was last night, it's seen. But the joke was like, we still eat so many food, so much food from our ancestors that technically we don't have to eat. It's the scraps. It's not that great. Now, if you see, even if they make it the right way, we've made it into something. You've got to put the hot sauce on the fried gizzards. But, yeah, so anyway, I was high and I just told you don't have to eat it. You just have to eat the dough more, babe.

59:14You sound like you're trying to save a stripper. Like, you ain't got to do this no more. It's a better way to live. You ain't got to do it. I could take you. I could cry feed you. Because why is you eating that? Why don't I have to eat that? Do you think Jamaica's have jerk chitlins? No. No. No, no. No. You think they're doing this jerk chitlins somewhere in the picture? No, I mean, you see jerk pork. Do you know I love jerk pork? No, I love jerk pork. But the chitlins know. Do you guys eat anything currently that our ancestors ate that you realize, damn, I don't have to eat this, but I like it. Because to me, it would be gizzards. I had never really got down. Like soul food is soul food. And I know that the insomology of soul food is like the stuff that was just we had around and we turned into the collar green. We love it. We love it. But like the gizzards, the livers, the chitlins, all of that shit. Well, you was up north. No, no, no, no, no, no, hold on. The thing is, I knew my grandmother, my grandmother, who's from South Carolina,

1:00:14she used to make liver and all that shit. I never liked that shit. When I say, I had an uncle who used to cook rabbit. He used to get the rabbit in the evening, get the gear. He's from Virginia. He used to get it cooking up. I used to ask, I mean, and then from like my Jamaican side, like my dad used to do fish head soup. And he was, he sucked the eye out of the fish. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I did it through, managed, managed, managed, managed water. So, I didn't know what to talk about. And he got the little head. And I can't do none of that. You can't do none of that. Even like the people that, for crawfish, they all, you got to suck the head. Oh, I love crawfish. And do it. And do it. And another delicacy in Barbados is peak feet in sauce. So you know what else? Will you see peak feet? Peak feet. So, yeah, they're all smells that romp. Wait, wait, wait. So, it smells good. It smells like it's something. Wait, wait. Oh, and they do the pudding, which is the peak in testing. Yeah. No, no, no. Y'all know how you see peak foot from the candy lady. Out of the jar. Oh, the jar. The grind of pickled.

1:01:14Oh, my God. Oh, my God. The vinegar, pickle, peak foot. You used to literally, you got it in a ziplock bag. And you just, you just, you just used to bite the meat. It's soft. Oh, oh, oh, oh. Okay. But it's, but it's pickled. It's a pickle, pick foot. It's something that vinegar. Oh, my God. It's a lady that used to, she was so, the, the, the, the, the bringing Tupperware. Mm-hmm. She's making it in the weekends. She used to have a notion of everything in Brooklyn. And you bring it. Shit, I think it's $10, $15 depending on the size. And you get the peak feet. You get the sauce, which is the, the, the, the sauce. Yeah. And putting, which is the pudding. Yeah. Yeah. The picking test. Now, at the kid, I'm like, damn, I'm dead. Oh, it's buying this shit. I never ate it. And one day I was like, oh, let me try this shit. Open the top, the joint or whatever. And I try to chew a little piece. And I'm like, ooh, shit. Like, shit. Wait, wait, wait. I'm still not processing that nigger. It is. It is. And I'm like, all right. Yeah. I'm just going to say you know, I'm just going to put this in the oven. I'm just going to put this in the oven. I'm just going to put this in the oven. I'm just going to put this in the oven. Give me, I'm, well, you probably don't do the cooking.

1:02:15But thanks giving y'all don't put all the stuff from the turkey inside the dressing. Um, like it's like normally like the kid needed the, uh, um, or you need to stuffin. Yeah. Look, you saw. You see, Oh, well, you see the dress and then they're stuffing. Yeah, right. But it's, it's okay. You're from. No, it's okay. We should. We are going to see a lot of online. I mean, we are talking about, I want to get to ahead when we just have a consensus that sugar and grits, that's very, you know, it's funny. I would say it's regional, but it's not, because even some people in the subway, fuck no. But then a lot of people in the subway, like yeah, that's what we do. So I do. Yeah, I'm not a sugar grits person. I'm not a pinevary, right? Yeah, see. Hold on, hold on, hold on. I'm not a pinevary. Pinevary on pizza is that. No, no, no, no, no, look at this black. Can we keep this black? No, no, no, no, no. It's literally called a Hawaiian pizza when you put goddamn pineapple on it. But that's why it races too, because they're like, oh, Hawaiians eat pineapple. Y'all, y'all, like, like, it's like, niggas eat watermelon, Hawaiians eat pineapple. Let's buy some racists.

1:03:16I want to know who came up with that term. Okay, we can't do it. Why is it so weird? We can't do it. Chicken wings. Well, the Hawaiian pizza with ham, too, though. Ham, ham, ham, ham, pineapple. But chicken wings and french fries was Chinese food. Oh, Hawaiian. For Niggas in New York. You're like, no, I'm gonna get some chicken wings and fry rice or chicken wings and french fries. Because it's from the Chinese restaurant. Wait, hey, hey, not Hawaiian pizza originated in Canada, bitch. Oh, yeah. See, I told you. I told you. I told you. You're saying it didn't make you get a root. Man, Sam, Sam, Panna Poppilus. Yeah, no, I spoke that. Oh, wow. See, no, I know some calling out to tell you. Hawaiian pizza. That's what they eat down there, right? Pigs and pineapple. But you know what? Savages in Hawaii. Like, I don't do pork, but I will put the pineapple on my pizza. Yeah, I can't, I can't. You know what, I saw yesterday that I never seen it. I thought it might have tasted good, but it was nasty. Niggas was making a king crab. And he was like cooking a whole king crab. He was breaking it down, a whole char grilled, all that great. But when he was making the butter for the king crab, you know, you got to take the top off, take the top off the main back.

1:04:16And you got to gut out all the shit in the crab. And he scoops the big yellow stuff. And he's like, now, I know a lot of y'all don't eat this. This is a digestive, like this is like a digestive thing for inside the crab. For them to digest their food. You know, they're wild. They go in the mouth. Yeah, but they call it the mustard. The mustard, the mustard. Yeah, it's the mustard right here. And then he takes that and then mixes it with butter and garlic and all types of shit. And then based the grilled king crab with the gut, then I was like, yeah. I'm not gonna say, yeah. If I'm not mistaken, some people do eat it, like, especially in Baltimore. Yeah, yeah, yeah, they eat. Hold in. Hold in. I'm pretty sure you can make that taste good without that. Yeah, I didn't need that. You've got regular butter, regular garlic. Are you gonna do us for obeying anything in this diet? And it's all right, especially for seafood. I didn't need that. Next time you come to New York, I'm gonna take you to the fish spots, right? Would they do the steamy fish? And our people have no conscious when it comes to the boil, the seafood boil,

1:05:18the amount of liquid butter and all that. Oh, yeah, they go all the way. Oh, babe. I'll tell my dripping out the ad. I'm not gonna lie. You know what? You know how they're talking about all the lawsuits. Every couple of years, there's lawsuits for pharmaceutical companies that talk about what go, like all the things. And like 20 years, the seafood boils. There's a lot of stuff. The fact that you're coming back and be like, the way the sodium levels, you have mesosculiomo from shrimp and crab. Have you gone to the crab boil before the mischievous life? Yeah. It's just, it's juicy crab giving you a recall. Like, are you fucked up now? One time I remember Dallas was saying, yo bro, why is it motherfucking a seafood crab spots opening all over the, like a knee spot? I'm like, bro, it's got, it's not just, it's everywhere, everywhere. And I'm like, how much crab? Listen, first of all, the only crab I wanna eat if I eat crab is from Baltimore, Maryland. I love Baltimore. Anything else is suspected of me.

1:06:19I don't believe his crab. You're killing it up here. Old Bay Peasling was invented by white people. Gustav Brunny. Oh wait, but in Baltimore, Maryland. Yeah. Oh, that is just the, yeah, yeah. The colonizer came to the shores and that's where a lot of the, the waters is at. And they were like, yeah, we gotta make this shit. 19, 39. They fled Nazi Germany. That was gonna say, they were trying to get out of Germany. The World War II. Oh, me. What accent was that? What are you putting on the word of the, oh, me. Oh, me. Oh, I left the, I left the car. That's German. Yeah, that. They have old Bay on eggs, bro. In any way, you see? And now we got... Oh, I do. Oh, you do? Oh, I do. I never want eggs from you. Old Bay on eggs, you know for a lot though. You give a little tap like the same way you do paprika or something on a devil's eggs, you give it a look. Oh, man. I would try. A little seafood essence to, yeah. A hard boiled egg.

1:07:19I don't want no goddamn old band. Absolutely. Some people only do not give me X season like me. Oh, shit. No, yeah, that's it. No, that's it. You can be a crap boy. I do feel a little far as you though. Just for the look. It don't take different. I like green. That's what I'm saying. Okay, yeah, yeah. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. Anyway, look at us. Y'all, we went from black to food. I love this. Everything is about race. Let's talk about race, babe. Anyways, thank you guys so much for tuning in to our bonus episode. This was- Oh, I got another tip bit. As a filming star it miles way about 3900 days since to this day that we're recording that Dr. Humor in school. It's still not open. Oh God. Imagine that. That is 2013 5000 days? Yes, the first time I was talking about the shit was in 2013 and as of to that? Record date that she's still not open for business. Do you know you could get a 2013 car for only. Never mind. Anyways, guys. Thank y'all so much for tuning in to another bonus episode topic to next week. Yeah. Yeah. I know Black. I'm from Brooklyn. I know

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