Mens NCAA Swimming and Diving Championships 2026 Preview

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1:00Pretty similar format to last week with the Women's Preview. I'm just going to go over some of the big story lines that we've had already going into this week. Just touch on a little bit of what we saw last week. I would expect a full recap pod to be coming next week. And then we'll get into some of the big races, some predictions in the individual events and the team race. So it should be a good one. I do think that we will have to review all these predictions coming next week on the recap. Just to really show who, not to tip anything off, but someone definitely knew what they were talking about last week. So I'll just keep that in mind. Sure, buddy. Go full year counting conferences to see what happens. My conference predictions were a little lackluster, but it's really, I come into my own Com-NCWA time. But let's get into this thing, does a few big things coming out of last week that I feel

2:03like we at least need to touch on before that actually biggest news of the whole NCAA men's meet, Luca Orlando out of the meet with a, quote unquote, small injury, does what does that mean? For Georgia, it's a lot. That's their heavy, heavy hitter. That's their, their horse that's pulling their, their carriage. They have a lot of really good summers, but Luca was, you know, almost a shoe in for the 200 fly. It was a shoe in for two other A finals, possibly looking at a 100 back, like top three performance as well. Like, that's a lot of points that Georgia's losing. What do you think, Case? Are you looking, well, well, we'll record the pods and I just, just kidding, I think there might be some, some, some, some chef it up in the background of some nice pods, so unfortunately

3:06we will spare you the delicious smells associated with this meal being cooked, but really what's important is the, you know, the swimming here. One other major swimmer out for NCAA is this week, Lance Norris out of NC State, the senior disson swimmer. According to the swim swim article, no reason that we can glean as to why he had to pull out. I do not believe the NC State was maxed out on their NCAA roster, does that correct? No, they're not. Okay. For a reason he's out, I wouldn't imagine he'd pull out for, I mean, he's a senior, this is the last run, so obviously something going on there. With that though, I meant to, the next two alternates slide into the meat and that meant two additional qualifiers for the men's, the Texas men's team bringing in Glavinsky as well as, um, who's the other one does, like, do I not have it here?

4:06Exactly. I'll find it. Anyway, but what, Texas getting two more qualifiers, what does that mean? Anything for the meats or do we think possible scores, but I mean, at the end of the day, I will talk about this later as well. I think Texas is looking like a, they're easily the title front runner, um, two guys who could possibly sneak in and get a couple of B points, um, but I don't think they're going to be, you know, going for, for a win in an event or anything like that, they're not going to be relay summers. But I never know. He never knows. It's huge. That's huge. Yeah. Glavinsky is certainly another international talent who, um, I'm sure Texas actually would have expected to be scoring. So if you never know, I think he's someone who has enough talent to potentially, uh, jump up into scoring, um, it'd be final. Garrett Gold, um, was the other make to me and you have, uh, you have a chance to score. Yeah. For sure. Garrett Gold will probably factor in, he was already going to be factoring and probably

5:07on a real air too. So from an individual scoring perspective, um, probably not, but from a, from a team perspective, I think when the more individual summers, you have the more opportunities, you have to kind of get a fire, uh, set a fire going and build some momentum. So, uh, I was honestly a shocker and we didn't talk too much about it. I mean, the fact that Texas really didn't, uh, I was expecting a maxed out roster and they put up, I think 13, um, out of the original, in the end, I had the, uh, the highest number of fall fires, actually. Yeah. Yeah. So that's really from a pre-meat perspective. That's what we got going on, uh, to a couple of, couple of additional summers getting in for the, uh, the Longhorn squad. I think it's worth noting, um, we saw a lot out of the first week. About some of these changes and there will probably be a dedicated podcast needed, uh, it's kind of break this down further, but I mean, the likes of Tory Haask, Bella Sims, Campbell Stoll, all speaking out, uh, against the changes that the CSEA made to the, um, the meat

6:15schedule this year, primarily, uh, it was a distaste for the lack of beef finals, um, at night. Yeah, there were a lot, a lot of people that spoke out about it, the CSEA actually put out a statement that they understand that there are people who are frustrated with the format that they picked and that they're still toying around with, um, with it and nothing's final, but, you know, Tory Haask, Bella Sims, Campbell Stoll, all spoke out about it. Tory Haask gave a really, really cool story about how when she was a freshman, she actually missed out on the A final, um, only non-A final in college, man, I just feel, I feel so bad for her. I feel so bad for her. But, uh, to her point, like she was able to get another chance at this one, I ended up waiting to be final scoring some more points for a team and going to best time. So, uh, it's a really good opportunity to grow when you're able to make that B final, especially as a young summer, um, and she kind of had a test to do that, which is pretty

7:17cool. Yeah, I think I can speak probably the same, uh, point at the big 10th meet for us, as, as was known for his, for his ads at finals, Casey was known for his drops at finals. Just kidding. But, yeah, no, I, I think this is something that the message is pretty clear already. We even saw some coaches, um, speaking out about it and, I mean, even, I think Virginia, Virginia Techs had coached, so even telling people not to, to come to the final session which just, just, just a, just a proof of point there. They were chanting, bring back B, um, yeah, he said like if you are a coach and you don't have any summers and finals, like he encourages you not to come to proof of point, which I think was already happening with a lot of people. So I'll be interesting to see how that develops. I thought it was funny. On night one, the commentators had, had a pop on, uh, rowdy, rowdy games and, uh, Elizabeth Biesel and talk about, they're like, oh, you know, we're so excited about these changes

8:19for the, this upcoming year. Meanwhile, the rest of the meet was a train wreck for, you know, the fans and, and the press, uh, conferences. I mean, you have so many parents and fans that aren't there because their summers aren't making final ads, just whatever. We don't talk about that's more time. Yeah. Yeah. We'll, we'll, we'll, we'll, we'll deep dig into it in a later pod. So let's just get into some of the big races. We touched on this a little bit last week with the women's meet, um, and we got some of the big races, uh, another, some great races, uh, again, this week, starting out for I am. Um, who do we got lined up for this one? Um, we have a lot of 335s and faster, uh, you know, Bela and Elsa and Joshua Bay, Lauren Wigdington, Cooper Lucas, Rex Mauer, um, I also wouldn't, uh, kind of Yankeviks. Uh, I mean, all four was that two, three, six of those guys, um, are, are really in it to win it and it could really come down to the last 25, the last five meters, uh,

9:22and that's a really, really cool event. I think we mentioned last week, like four I am in my opinion is one of the most fun events to watch because everyone seems to be so differently and that end up being a really exciting race to watch on the woman's side and I'm hoping that it isn't immense. Well, um, yeah, it should, should be good. I, someone like Josh Bay, it's, it's hard to predict in my opinion. He had dropped like 12 seconds at big 10s, so you don't, I, it's hard to say what he has potentially in the tank still to drop. I, I don't know, um, same with Lauren Wigdington. I think it was a pretty big drop for him at big 10s. So I think someone like Jankoviks or, you know, Bela who have, you know, been in this a final for a number of years now already are probably two names that I think are probably a good bet in terms of, you know, what I, the confidence I have in what they will produce in this event. I agree. I do think it's interesting too. If you look at the top, it's the top 14 people are all under 340.

10:28I remember like my sophomore junior year, um, junior year went when, uh, Leon just came on to the scene. Like it took a 339 to get top three, um, and now you're looking at 339 to possibly maybe not even score. Seems like it's got a lot faster, this is one of those events is really dry. Yeah, it just seems like, I mean, and this has been a little bit of discussion, but I mean, we're not going to see 328 this year, um, but we're going to see 3333s or something like that and a heck of a lot more under the 337 38, um, 39 range. So the depth is, is there. And I think that, that fight to make it back for a second swim is going to be tough. I mean, I'm seeing Zalyn Sart, Zalyn, uh, Sarkini down at 14th, uh, he's someone I could see jumping up, I could see even further down, kale martyr has been Ben Delmer's further down. Um, even some of like Humberto Najira from Cal, who has had great NCAA performances as a

11:31C to 27th right now. I mean, I don't know if he can make a push to make a final, but, uh, certainly we could see people moving up, moving up here. So, um, I think this was pretty wide open, honestly, I do. I would say probably the most wide open event is kind of looking at it one of them at least. Okay. Let's jump to the 200 breast, um, or sorry, 100 breast was another one that I would say we got a little bit of a, it's cute up to be kind of a, the Texas bros versus, uh, Yamato. Yeah. I got Nate German prezz, um, obviously Yamato as well as, uh, Campbell McKean. Campbell. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Anybody else that we should keep an eye on here, obviously Luke of Ladonovich is, is in there. I don't know yet a big, big 10 meets. How do you see it? An interesting one, just one I want to mention before you get onto that is, you know, Bill Moglin is entering the event, who is primarily a back shoker.

12:34I am her through you on a few point nine will for the win. And yeah, I, he, he was like, let's swim it. I guess he doesn't really have an extra another event that day, um, two I am typically his third event. That's the same as the two backs. That was kind of interesting, um, yeah, I mean, you could see Luke of Ladonovich. You know, when you're wrapping up a long day and that what's for dinner panicked, well, you've got convenient everyday protein from Omaha steaks waiting at home that panicked turns into your weeknight win. And now's the time to buy during Omaha steaks, bring savings event, save big on their exclusive lineup of mouthwatering steaks, gourmet burgers, air chilled chicken, pork, seafood and more, all delivered right to your door. Plus get an extra $35 off with promo code audio when you shop Omaha steaks.com today with over 100 years of unrivaled quality and variety, Omaha steaks understands what you need to get dinner done. Plus, every bite is backed by their 100% guarantee.

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14:36You know, they get kind of better as the year goes on. We saw it last week as well with a couple of the foreign girls that are new to something. He's a freshman, still figuring out a short course, maybe he'll make a push, but I really think it kind of comes down to, you know, Jim and Prey, Okodome, Camel McKeon, kind of those three, maybe Cone de Groot gets tuned in there. Yeah, I was going to say we were kind of just even right now, Cone de Groot right now, but I think it's a little bit unknown. We haven't seen this before for him. This is senior, he's a senior with only one year of eligibility left. So it'll be interesting to see, I think they really would prefer him to perform on relics for them probably, because he's a key piece for them. He's holding that breaststroke together, but... He's someone who I wish he would have gotten four years of. Yeah, for sure. It would have been really, really cool. He could have easily been under 50 if you give him four years of short course, and you know, maybe pushing that 49.5 barrier, but sadly we do not.

15:39Exactly. So hopefully that, I mean, courage is more kids get over the pond earlier, but it is what it is. Men's 200 freestyle. This one. Talk about it even before we got on the pod here today, but this could be a great one. It's kind of similar to set up similarly to men's four I am. It's any horse in the race, in my opinion. What do you think? Yeah, I mean, it's hard to even pick anyone, right? Look at the names here. No one really has, I mean, Henry McFadden, Olympian, that's okay, that's one data point there. I'm just going to have a conist, Big Ten champ, didn't have a great NC's last year, didn't have a great Big Ten's this year, so or a super impressive Big Ten's this year. So as he's all in for NC's, he's actually someone that I see, Remy Fabiani has been really good this year.

16:39How much can he... Big drop at ACC, is he someone you could sneak in? I don't know. I just think it's a lot of, we lost a lot in this event last year, and so I feel like, kind of wide open. Even someone like Tom Skoski, I think he might be someone who I would say has the most experience, but he's seated ninth a little out of the picture with Maximus Williamson right behind him. So I don't know, it's actually, this one is, I look it down, even further, it's just slide. He was fun to, it was fun to pick someone, I mean the one he's a freshman, right? Exactly. It's, it's going to be a good one, I'm really excited for this race, especially, and it's a really tight field from first to, I mean, first to 16, there's a second gap. So I mean, with plenty of 131 lows to 131 mid, so yeah, this one, we're really throwing

17:40a needle in a haystack to pick the winner out of this group, in my opinion, men's 100 back. This one, I think, really comes down to, again, a long horns, a gator, and potentially a bulldog, if he's on, if he's on form this week. No well-modulant, obviously, coming off a American record at mid season, 4326, keeper coach, NCAA record holder, 4320, obviously the most proven, Ruard under 43, Adam Cheney under 43, sorry, I forgot to mention them there, and I think Johnny Marshall will be down there as well. Johnny Marshall was 43-3 last year, almost out of touch, coach for the win, so don't count him out at 7th there, yeah, this will be a fun race to watch. Yeah, I like this one, and it'll be interesting, I guess we don't need to go into predictions

18:43yet, but I just, even something like Johnny Crush makes it there, he kind of just flies into the radar the whole year, being at Army, and then just, oh, 441 from Americans, the American conference, and then let's get into it. So Kai Winkler is an interesting name, seeded with 446, down in 15th, right now, I don't necessarily see him jumping in, but you see. No, I mean, another one to keep an eye on, Evan Petty, Kyle Swam, really great in the woman's eye last week, he's sitting at 8th right now, but, you know, is he due for another big drop with, with the Durgan Special, yeah, let's just, let's pair in 100 fly, 100 free together, and I think really would have boils down to throwing the 52, it's all about Leano, can he achieve the triple, and ride off into the suns, his NCAA career sunset

19:44coming home with, I don't know, how many, how many NCAA records I think, I think that's really the question, do you see it any other way? No, I really think he's in for a really, really big meet. He has looked in my opinion, he didn't go as fast as he sees this year, but he has looked really good all year, like physically, you know, I watched him as he sees, he looks so strong in the water, I think he is just lining it up, the stars are lining for him to just have an absolutely insane meet. That's my, I think, I think he's someone who's really good, I mean, that's the, that's, I mean, it is what the click clutch gene is, I think he's really, someone who's really talented at dialing in his focus and his execution, when it matters most, I think like you said, we haven't necessarily seen some of the, like, just out of this world individual performances this year, but we've seen the kids split 17 mid on a relay already, like

20:45I think when he needs to produce those performances, it's always there, and so for him to kind of be able to kind of build towards NCAA is the whole year to where he can bring that focus to each individual, each event, each swim is scary. I hope I'm proven wrong, but it seems like his fly is on more than his freestyle. I hope they're both, but he's already been 43, one, 43, one, yeah, 43, one, I believe 43, one hundred fly, which is like basically what he won and siblings with last year. So I really see that record going down, can he do it in the hundred free and 50 free as well? I think one thing that's important, the 50 is going to be a tough one to break now. I think with it being on day two in previous years, I mean, that's when you got all these guys at their, their sharpest for that, for that day two session. Now with the hundred free moving to day three, rather than day four, I think that day three

21:47to day four is really kind of where your body takes a turn for the worst. So I actually would expect to see a little bit something better in the hundred free individual than the 50. That 50 is going to be a war of attrition for those poor, those little sprinty boys on day four. But that hundred free too, you got to remember Karibay almost beat him last year. It was also 40 point low. That's going to be a really, really tough battle and you definitely cannot count him out. Oh, yeah. He's someone who, I mean, he certainly has a relay when he does not have an individual into my knowledge. So I think before he, certainly he would be, he's hunting that, that elusive, instantly title before he, before he has out to. So it's going to be, I think he probably has that, that hundred free mark down as it's probably his best shot. So it's expected to be a tight one there. Men's five hundred free.

22:47This is one that we were pleasantly surprised with, but a couple of different conferences of CCs, especially with just how young this field is right now. What are, what are you seeing out of this five hundred free is, I think, it's easy to just say Rex is going to be back and, and, you know, before a four, four, three, like he has been last year, but we haven't necessarily seen that this year. No, but I think that knowing Bob Bowman, he'll have him ready to go when he needs to be ready to go. And that's, that's this week. I do think that my opinion, I think Rex will win it. We'll talk about that a little bit later. But I do think that that race for second gets really, really close. And there's a lot of names that, that could pop out. You also have to look like don't count out someone, you know, the Ahmed squared from Florida who could honestly throw down a 405 and outtouch Rex Mauer and I wouldn't totally be surprised. I, what, what are you thinking? Yeah, I think it's, it's hard to count, um, someone's younger, you know, Max Carlson,

23:51Luke Whitlock, those guys, I don't, I don't actually feel like a ton of confidence there, but even someone like Noah Millard, um, I mean, he's a fifth year of the series. He's done this a number of times before I would expect to see, you know, a 406, 405 range of, if Rex is a little off, not back in that, I think it really boils to, I think Rex on paper has the most talent and probably is unbeatable if he swims to that potential. But I think it's super close thereafter. And the 500s, it can be a toss up. And so we'll see. I think you've talked about Leando has that clutch gene. And you know, when it comes down who he swims big in the big moments, you're looking at two dudes who have swam their best meets at the biggest stage at the Olympics at Worlds and one in Joudai Ahmed and then Hafanale, right? You're looking at two dudes who have thrown down on Worlds, throw down at the Olympics.

24:52Like they're going to show up when the stage is big and I, I do think that, like I said before, they could really push for that first place and I think it's going to come down between those three. Yeah, even someone, and we'll touch on it a little bit in the mile, but like, I mean, he might not have quite the speed, but even someone like, you know, Kobe Bouchak up to in or Nathan Whiffin, you know, Bouchak up to and obviously has the 200s speed, but Whiffin, if he's like on the mile, night one, I wouldn't count him out to be an a final personally. Even someone, you know, Ryan Aresman, I just, I think is unpredictable and based off what we saw last week from the women, I would lean towards them having a really good mate this week. Yeah. Yeah. Last preview, we'll touch on a little bit more in depth before we do event winners here to an R.I.M., and this is one that I think we've been excited about for the entire year basically because, and we were waiting on he were coach to make the decision of whether or not he was going to swim it, alas, he's not, but now I think we have a great set of

26:00names to watch on this one, who stands out to you. You look at it. You have. Oh, McDonald's. All right. Oh, McDonald's. Long gear. Bailer Nelson. Boostos. Will Moglin. Maximus Williamson. Like, you have seven dudes, sorry, six dudes who are 140 pointer faster, and you don't have a single dude that's under 140 yet. So I think that, you know, it probably comes down to those seven, but, you know, again, there's a guy like Trishank of X, who's sitting at nine, three, I think is due for a big beat. I see the winning time being 138, five, 138, six. Hey, it's Cole Swindle. And when I spend 200 days a year rolling down the highway, the bus can start to feel smaller than a guitar case. Everyone wonders how I stay chill while the hours crawl by. Truth is, one good luck spent on Chamba, and suddenly the trip does a whole lot shorter.

27:01Finding your space, even when there isn't much to spare. Need some chill? Let's Chamba. No purchase necessary. VGW Group Void were prohibited by law, 21 plus TNC supply, sponsored by Chamba Casino. At the UPS store, reinsure your small viz stands out, with a variety of high quality paper stock options, banners, posters for stores, and more. Most locations are independently owned, product services pricing, and hours of operation may vary. See center for details. The UPS store. Be unstoppable. Coming to your local store today, and get your print on. And that's a, would be the best. I think Owen McDonald's maybe the only one of the group maybe, Baylor, who has been under 140. I don't think Baylor has. Okay. So exactly. I mean, I think Owen for sure has been 139. Yeah, so, so I think he's, you know, Baylor is a tough, because I think he's been queuing for a big meat this year. So I'm excited to watch that. And honestly, if Arsenio boosts us back to his, to his glory days, I think he could

28:02make a, it could make a run out of two. I think he's been under 140 boosts as Colin Geer has been 140.1, so like, you know, he might make a push, but yeah, I do think this is going to be a really, really fun race to watch. And again, those IMs are always fun. Boost does has been 139.8. Yeah. Once again, this is going from day two, basically the first event that most of these guys would have swim in previous years to day four now, which is a, which is a tough switch. We definitely see a little bit lighter of a field because of that. Like we talked about, but I mean, you're going to see some tired bodies here. Two IM prelims on day four has to be an absolute nightmare of a so I could not imagine two back. Yeah. So that was one I like to do fresh. And eventually I didn't like to do it at all anymore. So he's quit on it. He gave up. I was a quitter. I was a quitter.

29:03Let's get into the predictions. Starting first event, 1650. I think we're we're back art floor boys. I got the half of Ahmed Square. I got drowty. And I think that the tips what here's your pick, but who is that half an alley? Yeah, I think I don't know, man. I think people like people like Zalon for this one being the back to back defending champ foot. I don't know. These are what I mean, I think it's harder to defend than to take a tie. Yeah, by the way, yeah, exactly. So back. He's using one of the past three, right? Did he? I don't know. I can't remember. I can't remember three years back. I can't remember 22. You're in the last 23. Yeah. I think that drowty once again, having swam in those big heats at the Olympics and pulling through. I don't know. I like it.

30:03Yeah, I'm with you there except just the exact same reasoning. That's the other guy. I know how he's swam in the big stage and he's won and he's done really well. Like. And then fell off the face of the earth for like three years, but like he's still a bit training. You know, I do think again, someone like Nathan Whiffin, Ryan Earsman, like Cal looked really good in the woman's side. There within 10 seconds of the first place, see like that's not unreasonable to see them get up and win. Now the biggest issue is Earsman's not going to be in that final heat. So he's going to have to do it in the morning, where it's going to be able to race that final heat. Yeah. Depending on the person that I mean like that works for someone and it's not like Aaron's or eras men will be bimes. I mean, he's got Carson Hick, Noah Miller, Luke Ellis, I mean, he's got good names who I mean, even Jill Lynch here, Sean Green. I mean, there are big names who are going to be in that second to last heat in the morning.

31:05So I'm not too concerned about that, especially the myelot NC is, you can get a really mixed back, which I mean, the good and the ugly. So if they're on, I think it's usually, usually fine. Let's go on to then the two, the two relays on night one, two under med, eight free dozen I got mirrored picks here, you got the, the Florida gators in the two met and then who do we got in the eight free does. We have Texas and I think we kind of mentioned this both. There's some race, especially realize where it's like hard to pick away from anyone. I think in the two met the ASU could be seated to possibly take down Florida, but I, I see Florida dropping more time than ASU going into the meet and I personally see a sub 120 for the first time that I would be quite to swim. I mean, and I'm a victim, but I love it. The Florida relay university bandwagon is just one that I have not been able to get off.

32:07It's so much. They've been doing it for years and like, I mean, they're never, I mean, they're fighting for a top three, never have really fought for a win, but they just always find, even if their team is like off at NC's, they always find a way to win a relay or two. At least. I just love it. And now I have to just, I just have to keep it going and I know this is for sure their best chance. I would say right now on paper is that that two men. So I got a bad one. When there's a last time they didn't win or didn't even break a relay record, I want to say that. Yeah, I don't know. That's exactly. So they have to just to keep the street going. Yeah. I agree. Texas, I just think it's hard. They have, I think Ohio State, seen in seconds behind them, but I just, I don't see a world that Ohio State draws. I think that relay for them at that conference was not a fluke, but like it was written in this like they just all produced on that relay.

33:07So honestly, I don't see a way that Texas goes slower than 606. I see them more in the 603 602 range. So yeah, I don't think I don't think they just seem like the team that's going to be in the sea to drop the most. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Hunter fly. I think we've, we've already kind of tipped ourselves off here again to, um, we're suckers for, uh, Fortigators and, and Josh Lee, I know himself, I think I want to see him break that, that, uh, the dressel record probably just as much as anybody else, probably more than he does. Maybe. So, um, and I, I just, I just love, uh, I love the dominance. I think it's, I think, I don't know, I don't even have words for it. I think it's, he is one of the most, just like when it comes down to racing, he's one of those dominance whimmers that we've, we've seen. I mean, it's, yeah, it's Leendo, um, you know, you have one, two, three other guys who

34:08have been under 44, Karibay, Tyler Ray, Ilya, um, I guess Thomas has been under 44, but like, it really is going to come down to Leendo and maybe if Ilya is really, really on it, maybe he might fight him for, uh, 43 low, but I don't think the Ilya's got the 42 ending that Josh does. Yeah, I don't think so either, I think that issues of this camera, if you're watching a video right now, you can see a little blob of myself on this screen. I'm so out of focus, um, I would say that was, oh, Tyler Ray is an interesting name, how good of a, of a big tense that he had. I think he is, is a, is a good name to watch and then like you said, Karoon, I don't know. It's just hard to predict how much more he has in the tank and I think that's the only thing that's holding me back from, from, you know, shewing him in for a really tight race with Leendo. I'm meant for where I am, uh, split here with a couple of, uh, couple of long ones, who

35:12do you got? I have Bill or Nelson, um, taking down the defending champ, who, I got Rex, I think, I do think that Rex will be doing this me it's, I think that, I hate, I hate the Bob Bang went bandwagon of like, oh, it's Bob, like he'll have the boys ready to go, but I also think that it's, it's hard to, to argue against sometimes and I do think that Rex is, I don't think he's going to have just, I think if he doesn't perform an anesthesis here, it'll be a, consider a, a pretty rough season for him. So I think that he probably is going to be ready to drop a nuke. Yeah, I just like, like you said, I actually do, I, I mean, the bailer, Nelson, I think he's another, a name that I actually would like to, never, never want an NCAA title. So I, I do like that pick, uh, he, you know, he's ever want an NCAA title on my thought

36:13is like he already was flirting with an NCAA title when he was on A and M and he is now on Texas and has looked significantly better. Um, he was a top record coming to high school and I think he's always been good. I just don't think he ever shined up to how good we thought he was going to be and I think that this is his time. I'm starting to been 334 this year is best time. So I think he's got a little bit more on him. Yeah, absolutely. Um, 23, we already talked about this a little bit wide open feel. I got Fabiani. I think I, I think test does wanted Fabiani, maybe it sounds like, no, I, I was actually between two people. One was not Fabiani. I ended up picking Henry McFadden. I think again, shows up at big meets. I think he's going to do it. I think he's going to have a great meet.

37:13But my other pick actually, and this is also his best event was Kai Winkler. I think was the other guy I was deciding between, um, I think he just looking at his potential coming out high school. He's finally on this year. I think you did not have a great year last year freshman year, but he looks really good. I can see him even pushing it under 130. But I'm taking, I'm taking McFadden instead, I think consistency is going to take him that way. Bobby. I don't know. I think he's, I, he's maybe a little bit outsider, but I actually think that he is a very strong potential to be through it, one, 129, three, chew it in. I don't know. We'll see. Well, it will be totally off there, but I do think that he has the talent to do it. It's just a matter of, um, showing up, but I'm going to back, I'm going to back my guy, um, Cal Baptist grad. So, uh, what do we got here?

38:14100 breaststroke. Who do you got? I've got Okadome. I have Jim and Prev. Yeah. I think we talked about this one already a little bit, but okay. I think he's probably a little bit, is better in the 200, um, Jim Presley, only one who's been under 50 flash start, um, it's hard to argue against that, but I actually do like, um, coming off that, you know, Cal performance last week, I think they're in a good spot. And, um, yeah, I'll take him, yeah, I don't want to go against Cal and pretty much anything right now, but I just don't think that Okadome has a speed that Jim and Prev is going to get a different story like you mentioned, but I, I do think Jim and Prev takes the 100. To be relay, it's, you can't, you can't, it's got to be, it's got to be, it's you here. There seems to be fastest time, who seconds, like a second plus, so second fastest time

39:16of ever, uh, who knows, might be a matter of, uh, incredibly record hunting again here, but it's really, the star has got to align for that two free real life, for sure. Yeah, I mean, you can't, there are times, sometimes you can't sleep on like, I mean, if Florida finds their fourth and they're really on, they could make a push for it, um, I'm trying to think of who else. Those are probably your biggest two that you're looking at, uh, Texas, I don't think has the speed for it, and see states another one, if, if they have four dudes who are just apps, Tyler Reddick here from 2311 racing, victory lane, yeah, it's even better with chamba by my side, race to chamba casino dot com, let's chamba, don't purchase necessary VTW group, void, we're prohibited by law, C T and C 21 plus sponsored by chamba casino. Warning, the following zippercruder radio spot you are about to hear is going to be filled with F words. When you're hiring, we at zippercruder know you can feel frustrated for law and even,

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41:22for sure. I got modeling. I'm also taking an NCAA record to win this one and I'm taking Johnny Marshall and neither of us took coach, which is also this was a record. I'm mad at coach because he's swimming the hundred fly and I don't want to see him some hundred fly. So I took Marshall. This is holding a grudge against him. Yeah, I think, I think module and so kind of he seems like, I mean, I guess he wouldn't, he won't be winning, you know, sweeping the backstrokes from your one, but he honestly, you know, even his build now, like he reminds me of like a little mini riot, Murph. I think he's going to be cute up for for a big meat, 200 rest stroke. There's one answer, okay, don't make baby. I think this, this needs to be on record watch. I do think so really wow. I think this is a very hot take. I don't think he's here, but like I think he has a 47 low in him.

42:23I do. Okay. Well, yeah, that's a bold statement. Yeah. I mean, we'll see. He's been 48 low, I'm 48 mid at least, I think, so yeah, I'm taking it, yeah, it's, it's, that'll be it, he's going to be shuffling, screw it, 147, 5 free, we're a, oh man, oh my gosh, look at this. We're, we're, we're lining up the predictions here for a couple, we got, we got Rex. I think I already, I already stated it, but I think he's going to be on this meat, it's, how low do you think he could go does? Yeah, I think that's a lot of three, could we see, could we see 402? Yeah, that would be, I don't think so, I, I do think we, he, he's between 403, 405, the winner. Yeah. 53. This is when I started out with this Leendo, this is, this is my head, like, as I'm making

43:24these predictions, it was like, he's going to win the 100 fly and I, now I'm, now we're on the 53 and I'm just thinking, Leendo, it's, it's got, it's got to happen. There's, there's no way Leendo does not win this 53 is probably, you could say Ilias right there with them. I don't think that, I mean, I'm, I'm putting them on 17 watch here to be the third person ever. Yeah. I think Leendo ever did it flat. It's been 18, oh, six last year, 18 to eight, he's close, excited, excited for that one. I'm, you're looking for the double up here. I'm on that UF train, but at least he was talking before and, you know, I have to bring up a name that UF train, we've been on that UF relay train for a while ever since, what, McGuire McDuff. He's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's,

45:16I think there's, it's inevitable that one of them probably, I think it's, it's down to those two. Hunter free. Leendo, it's locks. This is almost the one I feel the best about. Hunter fly feels like a lot, but some of those Hunter free wins that he's had these last couple of years, man, it's a man alive. He just can't, can't lose. It's pretty good. Hunter fly. I think it's, it's an interesting race now that Lucas out. So I'm going to take Ilya Karum. Now that Lucas out, I got to take my boy, Thomas, I think maybe last day, Ilya maybe doesn't have it in him and Thomas Hyalman gets in there for the dub. Yeah, I mean, he, I think he's, she needs like his, he has really had him in high school and he's had it long course. He needs to like break through like, I am a stud swim in the NCAA short course.

46:22I mean, he's a freshman. So I, I get it. It's not, hasn't had that many of these, but like, I'd also, this is his chance. And especially with Luke out, he has the potential to do that now. So there's, there's a, a win out there. He just got to, got to go find it. Turn it back. I know what Casey was thinking here. There was once a time of time in 2025 where Johnny Marshall went out with it with a hope and a prayer. I, I would need to go pull up what he went out in, but Johnny Marshall went out like he was swimming. It wasn't it would be the last 200 back here for swam, but like the second hundred didn't exist. As he felt it pretty bad and coach absolutely chased him down was 134. I don't know. It might take coach me in a little bit off, but I like Johnny Marshall. Give it to me. Yeah. I, I have coach and I say this because last year after he went, what, 133? 34. 34 one.

47:2334 one. He said, I don't know. I'm still trying to figure out how to swim this race, which makes me think that there's like a one thirty three. They're too high. He was bluffing. He was bluffing. Yeah. I know. That's if. Yeah. It could be. It could be bad. We'll see. Um. For free real. For free real life. ASU NCAA record holders coming off conference. The same note. Three. What were they? 342. 342. 242. 242. I don't know. If things went really well, like. That could be 341. Like, I mean, they already were all 40 point. No, a chain was 41. One. But then they already had three 40 points. Like I could very realistically seeing them all 40 points, five or lower. Yeah. Which would be. This. You're talking about chain it all yet, by the way. Yeah. Um. It is crazy because you look at them. They're 342. One.

48:23Then NC State and Florida are both 243s. And then Texas is next to 245. So it's a big gap between first and second and third and fourth. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. I hope someone challenges there. But I just don't think that anybody has the strength of that ASU. Um, has freestyle wise. So. We'll see. It's going to be. It's going to be a long meet. Um. So you never know what people. What kind of. Physical form. People are in. On day four. So. We're going to have this. A ball. We're going to. We've got. We've got to. We've got to. We've got to. We've. We've got to. We've got to. And. I'm fired away. And fired away. The predictions here. Let's go with the team rights. I'll lead us off here. And. It's got to. I mean, real estate away at this point. Texas is going to win. We've said it all year. I like for a second. If Leendo polls through Johnny Marshall polls through Scotty.

49:23hit and miss at the NCAA meets from a top-to-bottom perspective over the last years, but I think that's here they put it together. So I have 4-2, ASU3, Cal, purely recency bias based off last week. I got the mood up to 4th. I got IU 5 and C-6 Michigan 7, Stanford 8, Tennessee 9, and a cheeky University of Virginia, Cavaliers in the 10 spot. I think the big notable one is I think, you know, most people have had Georgia as a shoe in for the top 10, but with Luke out, it's just, I have a hard time seeing it. I would agree. My top 10, Texas, similar to how we talk about UVA, like they are, I think they're a shoe in for first place. I think some bad things have to happen for them not to get first. I also have 4-2, I have them wanting to realize Leando's going to win three individuals, I think. And again, I think they have the depth this year to do it. They

50:26have two dissing summers who could be looking for a 1-2 finish in the mile, could be making a push for top three in the 500. They haven't had that in years past. They may have had Bobby, but they don't have the depth like they do now. Just top the bottom of their team. I actually have Cal3. I think Cal. Big jump. Cal dominated ACC's and the only 1-1 relay. Why can't they go out there with their depth, have an outstanding meet with their women have last week and just get a top three finish. I don't know. I think the biggest head against Cal from this year to the previous is they lost a lot. Besides you Moto, they lost a lot of their event winners and I think their depth suited them really well at conference. But you look at like a Florida Texas. They basically have the same amount of qualifiers individually. When you look at

51:27the Florida Texas, they have like 1-2 people and each event that are fighting for a win especially in the Texas. But Cal was just lacking a little bit of the event winner. So it's come to come down to some of those guys who are like borderline top 8 getting in and how far can they move up. You were probably 100% right. I just like the Cal woman last week went from what fourth place said ACC's to second and civil a's like. Fourth third or third and civil a's third and civil a's. But like they went from a very mediocre conference meet to an absolute outstanding and civil a's and Dave Durton does it year after year after year with the men. Why can't you do it again? ASU4, IU5, I think those three are going to be shooting for that third place spot. NC State 6, Michigan 7, Tennessee 8, Stanford 9 and UVA 10. It's pretty similar there. I would say for both of us. I think we got, you know, Tennessee and Stanford

52:29flip flop for ourselves in the 9th or the 8-9 spot and obviously Cal ASU flip flop there. But I think we saw, I would say the women's race tightened up a lot more. We saw some like bigger gaps that were projected that actually ended up happening and that was partially contributed by tell moving up quite a bit. But I expect this one to the tighten up quite a quite a bit here and it should be a great week of racing. I think does and I really excited and we'll review these these predictions come next week. Does any any closing thoughts words on your mind that you want to get out into the world? You're a person fast swim in. Love to hear it. Alright folks. Thanks for tuning again to the DFL swimming podcast. I'm enjoying some some swimming this week. Bring back B and we will catch you in the next one. Tyler Reddick here from 2311 Racing. Victory Lane. Yeah. It's even better

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