Massi!!!

0:00Welcome back everyone to the Overboard Networks Bolognac Podcast. Tonight we cover Bolognac Med, Season 11, Episode 14. Really getting there. This one in Will Smith's style titled Getting Siggy With It. So listen, we welcome on Massy. I would say an overqualified deckhand. Not sure how much she's going to interact with the ladies here on Knights Out, but he's here for a month anyway. So Joe Nathan continue their annoying spat that we know goes nowhere, but like now in the world in the current timeline, we know like Joe ultimately like one life. So listen, we welcome on new guests. But not before Joe and Kaylee go to the guest cabin. So Jen oversteps her boundaries and loses pretty much the only

1:03ally she has on the boat. And ultimately a bouquet of flowers just seemed to send her overboard. And that was the final straw show. Sean, let's get into it. Let's talk about Massy. It feels like a real salt of the earth guy seems to be stepping down to get into the boasting rule. Listen, I know Jen was immediately vocal saying not her type. Yada, yada, yada, she sucks anyway. So don't care about that. But listen, he seems like a cool dude. Like I said, he's here for the next month. This is episode 14. So assuming this is 16 episodes, he's here with us to the end of September. And then I'll probably forget about him come October. Hi. So I might not. And here's why. Massy, like I think when I first saw him, like, oh, he looks different than most people that they cast on BulloDec. Right? He's not a he's not Luke. He's not a six foot two square jawed, really handsome guy.

2:08He's just a regular looking guy. This is what I imagine most yada is actually look like. And look, if you watch the first couple seasons, seasons of BulloDec, it wasn't. Like the people were generally good looking or like, OK, looking, but they were, we have now, where everyone's super hot. And like the hot girl, the first season of BulloDec, BulloDec was this girl funny enough when her name was Cat. I know I'm sorry, I was Sam. Samantha, this girl's Sam. And she would not be the hot girl today. That would, it's a different stratosphere now. So I kind of, I find it refreshing. And we have this guy, Massy. He seems like a real true yada. You know what? And most boats, you know, you say like none of the girls are interested in him. I've been showing most boats he does OK.

3:10Because he's an charismatic guy. He's a hard worker. He seems like fun and nice out. Like he's interesting stuff. Like he probably does OK. Is he's not going to work on this boat because everyone's too good-looking. But this kind of brings me to Jen, almost. Jen's probably used to be in the hot girl on most, most charter seasons. Because I think the average yada isn't this insanely good-looking as it casts in reasons of BulloDec. So she can't cope. She's horrible at flirting. So I remember earlier when she basically guilt's look and having sex with her, saying like, I always get cheated on. And then tonight when she's called it, flirted with Cooper, it's basically like, I don't have any friends on the boat.

4:11No. It's the poor girl, right? Yeah. Poor girl. Poor me. It's like, please feel bad with me and talk to me and flirted with me. Because she's so bad at flirting. It's really pathetic. But I don't know. I know we're jumping around here, but I'm very promiscite. And I think I will remember him because he's so different. Is it? Well, first off, I'm going to ask you in one month, this guy's name. We'll try it. We'll see what happens. Yeah. And what I do think is funny is that, Nathan is just all over. Nathan's just trying to, he's trying to whip the votes. He's trying to get everybody on his side. And by, you know, buttering him up and then throwing Joe on the overnight, I guess the way to do it. He probably, yeah. I mean, I get it because, Nessie might have more experience than both of them.

5:14Or it seems he's the first officer in big votes. Now, I know, I think Joe and Nathan move up when they're on the show as well. Or at least Joe does. And they may all be like about equal. Because Nessie's only like 26, I believe. So he's still pretty young. But yeah, he's a very overqualified decade. And he probably knows as much, if not more than Joe. Obviously, Joe has been on his boat longer. And Joe knows his boat very well. Joe knows more than Nathan at this point. So he's a good tool for Nathan to use. And then, guess what you can get into this now? He's kind of obsessed with Nessie. And, and in the episode, he basically is like, Joe, you're gonna be on a six hour overnight shift, rather than a three hour overnight shift. You're a new six hour straight.

6:15So basically, I have to interact with you. I can just hang on my new best friend, Messie. Yeah, like, I know all the stuff is going on with Nathan off the boat, but like, we were dogging on this guy so early this season before everything happened. And now you just like kind of like, you kind of like hate watch him, right? Like, everything he does, you're like, oh, it's got sucks. Everything he does annoys me. Yeah. And so, I mean, we called it early, obviously. Oh, we called it early that he sucks. We didn't necessarily know anything that was gonna happen off camera. But I feel like we kind of took Joe's side when nobody was taking Joe's side early on. Yeah, even the end of the last season, we're like, we're like, like, Joe is a fuck boy. But I don't know that isn't, it's something he'll grow out of. And like, it's not this, like Nathan, you don't need to fix that.

7:15That's not your job. And you're being a little weird about it. And here we are now. Yeah, Joe and Nathan, it was another episode where they, so before Nathan put Joe, like, switch the schedule, they weren't like fighting with each other. There's been super weird. Right, like, just Nathan saying goodbye in the night out and Joe, like, Joe being worried about it. It was, it was uncomfortable to watch. I don't know. I mean, it's real. They do really hit each other. Yeah. I don't think they'd be at it. Here's the thing. Like, if you told me the whole, like, Jen flirting thing was fake, I could kind of believe it because it's so bad. But that's not what I was thinking. That's not how she flirts. That's the thing. I'm not even, I'm not saying, I think it's fake. I'm just saying she's so bad at it. The, you can believe that she's just a bad actress. That's correct.

8:15I think Joe and Nathan are, they're two pop committed to this. I think they really don't like each other. Oh, yeah. And it also, like, if they were friends, they would have just made that a storyline that they were friends. It's not cooler to have a storyline that they're, they're enemies. So this is like a real thing. I think one thing with Bravo shows, you know, but, you know, we never know how much. There's anything scripted, whatever. I don't think they ever script two people in the cast hitting each other. Regardless of the show. Because I think they just cast. That right people that are confrontational enough. Where they will actually hit other cast members. Just like through jealousy or screen time or like. Who's getting the show? That's always real. I believe that at least as far as Bravo. They probably just do like the. What's that there's like a test you can take that will. Like tell you your personality trait. Yeah, E and FJ. And I know there's like a ton more now. But.

9:16They probably just like take some of those and they know like. Which ones are going to. Just go off. Right. Which ones don't work well together. Which ones are just better for TV. Like if there's literally just one that's just like a chill dude. And you put like eight of them in like a room. It might not work out well for. Bravo Bravo. But if you want to like. Alpha dudes or you know guys who like have to be the best at stuff. Like you're going to have a ton of. Ton of action on that. It's the same thing for me. Yeah. That's a like a nasty kind of interesting because. He knows what he's doing. But I wonder because he's. Like I say he's not as handsome as all the other guys. They they like him. He doesn't feel like a threat as far as like being the star of the show. Yeah. What's the. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure.

10:16I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. Um. What's the. I don't. I don't know where you're talking about yet. I just. Why do I know her personally personally type is. It's so. Just a nightmare. Does. I would be in. It's funny. She doesn't really get like embarrassed. There. If I told someone like I don't have any friends. I would be like at a moment of weakness where I'm like I'm being barris by that. I'm like I'm not sure. I'm like I'm not sure. I'm like I'm not sure. I'm like I'm not sure. And she's just like open about it. And I mean, you could say a sort of good. That she's open about it. But I don't know. It's just it's very odd. The Florida with Cooper is very awkward. She's really. I was just really bad at it. I was just really bad at it. I guess she touches his nipple. Makes like lame jokes. I don't know. And. And I mean, I don't know, you know, you know,

11:17she's like a lot of people. And. Obviously it doesn't go anywhere. But in just a noise cat. What was your thought about. Obviously she like. Is trying to flirt with Cooper, then she. Then she, like, then she leaves to go to the bathroom. And. Cats, like. None of the girls go with her. Yeah. That's a huge. She's no friends. But yeah. That's an ugly grid. Like. Cooper, why didn't you stand up for me? I don't understand what Cooper was supposed to do there. Like, what was he supposed to be like actually? Don't call me that, because I don't have. Oh, the big cat Cooper, big cat Cooper. Who cares, Cat? And I, Cat kind of rubs me the wrong way. I know she's like super nice and very bubbly, but like she kind of got on Cooper like three days after they started dating where he was like talking to other girls or dancing with other girls. And she was like, do you remember they were at that club

12:20and she's like, let's go outside and it was raining. And she was like kinda yelling at him. And I'm like, you guys have been together for 72 hours, not even together. And then this, this whole thing where she's like blaming Cooper for the way Cat or Jen's talking to her and Cooper's not like shutting it down when I think they're supposed to be having a seeker relationship anyway. I'm not saying Cooper comes off well. I don't think Cat comes off well. Yeah, I think they both make each other less like a bull. And I think if they had never gotten together, we would have much higher opinions above them. I don't care about that relationship unfortunately. I mean, Jen's a bad friend. Like that is very clear. And like obviously Jen, or Cat was the only person that was really nice to Jen in the boat.

13:20I guess Cooper a little bit too. And Jen's aware that Cat and Cooper had like a little fling. So most girls would be like, okay, I'm, he's not an option for me out there. I'm just kept a. I don't know. I think that's on or among girls. That's like the standard practice. So Jen's clearly a bad friend. I just think the cat Cooper stuff. I just don't care. Yeah. I actually that's not going the distance guys. I really think they are trying to make the best out of this season because there's just. And like we'll talk about it. But like the chef. Getting flowers and like we're still being involved. And like do I really need that like how is there not better storylines than like some of the ones that were given here? And that really listen, not every season is going to be.

14:22A hit. And I know the ratings are really good for the season. I just don't get it. I think it's like coming off the back of like a really good. Down under season. Denner is so many things happening at once. Remember Mike? No. Yes. And there's like a million other. Then in Jenna and Eddie love triangle and Joe and Ellie and Daisy. So Jenna and then Alicia out of nowhere and Ellie and Ben in the kitchen. And then Barbie came back. Barbie came back. I brought up Mike Mike. So many of my things, but I mean, obviously him head of department Mike. There was so much happening all the time. And this season this med season started off really good. And the Joe and Nathan stuff's up pretty good.

15:23And I like this massive guy. But I think we're agressmen for straws here with the Cooper cat stuff guys. And Luke sending joy the flowers. I don't know. Is this stuff real? I guess it's real. I guess it's real. I mean, I was so funny because joy was like happy to get them. Like joy is not a complete 180 on this guy. Which feels odd because like they had very few. When she showed the picture that the two of them smiling, I'm like, I don't remember that picture. You guys have like what like three solid like three positive interactions when he was on the. The rest were negative. I actually thought he a I that phone. It's like, oh, like this picture of me and Luke. It's like, what was that? Like they had three good interactions.

16:24His entire time on board. So. And look, joy is really pretty. Again, this goes back to this show being ever been unrestrictly good looking. And why I like messy. I what would you think about a season. I've just. Not a goes, but like. But it's not. We're just we're just like he's thinking like sixes and sevens. These just like, oh, here's a here's a boat. Where I was going to film it. And then. What's the two we get here? And here's the thing I would love to see. I ever should give people hook up all the time. So fun. So good for just so good TV. It's just as fun. And I'll say this. I feel like. It could like happen more frequently.

17:26Oh, yeah. Because there's like. I don't know what's like the dating range, right? Like you're. You can go up to down to, but you got to stay within your zone. You know, theoretically, right? I mean, if you have a ton of money, maybe you can kind of out kick your coverage. But yeah. Generally speaking, everyone. Ends up with who they're supposed to end up with. Sure. If that makes sense, I don't know. Yeah. I mean. But yeah. I mean, it didn't work out for him, but obviously, Gail was. Well, beyond Nathan's. Yeah, realistic expectations. That is true. Um. Yeah, I mean, anomalies happen. Nathan's not a bad looking guy. I. I was his personality so much. Yeah. I think I think I'm going to back you and if you saw him, you'd be like, okay. He's like above.

18:26Honestly, for Ira lens, he might be good looking. Yeah, good thing. You go outside a Dublin. It's, I don't know. So he's. Regardless. I think I'm a lot of boats. He would be like the handsome guy. Sure. Yeah. Yeah. So it's. I give you a regular season of regular people. I would love to see that actually. Yeah, with like no. Because now, are we just getting a lot of people who just want to get like 15,000 Instagram followers? Yeah. I mean, Kaylee is clearly good at this. Kaylee is amazing. She's Joe is the best episode. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Makes it nice gesture for her brothers, death anniversary. And then obviously she says, what should you say to him in the dance floor? Well, I can't repeat that.

19:26I. Man. What a life Joe's living. I can't. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. If there's any kids listening, what we won't repeat it, but a girl looks like Kaylee seen that to you. And then. Hot tub together. Guess cabin together. Jesus Joe. Yeah. Yeah. So. I like how to because like you go to the message boards that people are like Joe so gross. It's like, no, he's not shut up. He's a great looking guy whose eyebrows are too thick. Shut up. Shut up. He's a great looking guy. Joe. He's constantly pulled every season. And he's had options. Girls like to do this thing. Guys will always be honest about whether a girl is good looking or not. Regardless of their personality. In girls. They don't want to admit that this guy they don't like is good looking.

20:29So they like. Pretend he's ugly. He's a good looking guy. Yeah, I think. Yeah, you probably say Luke is more handsome. That's fair. Joe is still well above average. Agreed. Yeah. Sean, did we. I wanted to talk about the police sirens that I posted, which. Yeah. Dude. How many promos or how many like this season on. Where they like guys were going to get boarded by the police. And all this like put down the camera. This and that. It was for a noise complaint. So stupid. Which means you're on. You should be roommates. We are a no stranger to share. I think. Like probably five or six. At least somehow we were on like the bottom floor too. Well, we got we got called all the time. You know what? I was funny.

21:29There was one time when they. They came to the door. And it was literally just four of us playing pool. Yeah. It was like 11 o'clock at night on like a Saturday. And they're like, should you guys really play and pool at 11? It's like I was almost like taking a back. Yeah, I think we should. I think that's exactly what we should be doing. We're we're just like watching TV at a regular volume. Yeah, it was. Yeah, it was. Yeah, it was. There's a few times maybe it was. Not warranted, but we're probably a little loud, but. Sure. So seven other times. Where it was. Nothing. Yeah. She's doing. Yeah. Well, yeah, that ended up being nothing. I guess the guests when they got left a good tip. That's fine. Yeah, those. The nickel on my now. Yeah, it's fine.

22:29The DG was done playing for a long time. I guess by the time they responded the noise complaint. Yes. You know, two hours. The DG's been off the boat for two hours, but who knows. Yeah. All right, anything else, Sean? Not really. Oh, I guess Max. Yeah, his dad was in Tunisia. His dad was in Tunisia. I didn't know we didn't get all the details, but his dad was there. I know. I don't know. I don't think we'll ever get to the bottom of it. I mean, there's part of me that thinks. Listen, I would love to be the guy that's just like Max saved his dad's life. It could also be like. Max got there and it turned out to be a little different situation. And. I don't know. Maybe he paid some money. Yeah. Maybe he paid some money, but he didn't. How's that going to go back and like be on camera and be like. Turns out.

23:31Turns out I was scammed. Sure. But my dad was. Because I think his dad is North African. So maybe. Who knows who knows. I'll I'll next sell that story. But. Yeah. If I was scammed. But I could very easily. Played off like I wasn't I would do that. Yeah. Exactly. That's really. Or maybe this is his life. I. I think know what everyone on board. Like all of his co-workers were like. I don't really know. Max is left with all yes. Yeah. Anything else Sean? No, I think ready for a words. Well. I mean, he talked about Joe. Yeah. I want to pick a different winner. It's tough. It is tough. Yeah, it's Joe though.

24:31It has to be Joe. I think he. He knows himself pretty well for the end of the charter. Yeah, I'm sure I was on the same. I was on the same. I think the same. I was on the same. I think the same. I think the same. I think the same. I think the same. I think the same. I think the same. And where they were. Clearly hate each other. But he wasn't. You know, he wasn't like oh, I can't. Help with the lines during the docking because Nathan didn't tell me to or something. You know. Yeah. He wasn't being. Passive aggressive in that way. his cards right with Kaylee. Mixed a nice gesture about her brother and spend a night, spend this and then guess Kevin over there. He's the winner. Yeah. Sean, I can see the two star reviews coming in being like they gave it to the guy who had sex, gross. But how do you not give it to him? Yeah. He's like, yeah, I get it.

25:35I'm gonna give it to Nathan for leaving the night out early and having a weird interaction with Gail that super awkward now when she's okay. I actually don't even think they should show any of those. They cut that. What? What? You get at least cut that. I guess I guess like Bravo released a statement being like we're no longer gonna be working with Nathan. Yeah. No shit. What are you talking about? You're not pregnant. That next season. He's a wall anyway. He's missing. Like what are we doing here? I mean, I guess if he was if he was on this upcoming season, they couldn't have been though because they they probably knew that like that are raster whatever happened in December. So they would have they probably wouldn't have had them on. But they would have had to. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They were insane. Who'd you have losing? Because I'll tell you this. So for me, it's Kim and it's no close. And I know

26:38everyone's gonna say why is it not Jen? Jen had a terrible episode. Jen's been having a bad guy. That has been kind of like she's had one storyline. It's about being with Cooper and also like being secret with Cooper, which is I think a stupid storyline. But now she's like also being. She's kind of being mean. She's blaming Cooper for what Jen was saying to Cooper. And none of that makes sense to me. Yeah. Yeah. I just find Ketanoin at this point. Even the final when she kind of goes off and Janet at the end of the episode. Now I'm at the vacuuming. Sure. Sure. Jen should find a way to vacuum. I don't I've never had carpal tunnel. I'm sure it sucks. But Jen should at least like be like hey, Kat, I can't vacuum, but I'm gonna do something else.

27:40Like sure to help you. Sure. I Jen's hard to deal with. Who knows. But yeah, no, all the Ket Cooper stuff is very annoying. I still like them together. Yeah, at all. I mean, we've talked about it, but we've had seasons where like number like seven on the cast is like a solid player. I feel like this season's just gonna be like I don't even want to say top heavy. You're gonna have some stars though, right? Like Kaylee's a star. Joseph Joseph star. Asia is Asia. Asia's Asia. She's not like a star for the storylines, but everybody likes her. I mean Max sure in sweet though. Like what's in Max. Yeah, there's been some good stuff. It's yeah, it's just it I don't want to say is Renna of steam because there was a lot to talk about this episode.

28:42But it was a lot of time with Cooper and Kat who just we don't really vibe with. So is this is this the last is this the second to last charter? I don't know. I think they only say two charters. Yeah, yes, yes, it has to be the second last charter. You're right. So the girls group that's coming on is the second class. That makes me think this is like 17 episodes. Yeah, 14. They're not gonna do two charters in two episodes. Yeah, it'll probably be 17. Yeah, maybe 18 who knows. Yeah, they better have some of them to sleep. My loser was Jan and just because it was one thing after another and Oh, the thing at the end where joy is to fly away is she freaks out. Like come on, come on, Jen, you don't care about Luke anymore. But again, I think it's her being used to being

29:47the hawk girl in most boats. This isn't what most boats look like and just coming up empty this season. Like yeah, she guilt's looking at having's like hooking up with her. But she look ultimately chooses joy and basically says tell her the next night out. I don't like you. I like joy. And then you know, can't get you know, Cooper's with cat, blah blah blah. I don't even Joseph give her the time of day. Yeah, no, I don't even think they've talked. It's isn't that funny. She's like I don't really connect with a Cooper and cat a little bit. But yeah, I think everyone else on the the show sort of trees Jen like she's not there. That's right. It's because Joe old Joe would flirt with anyone. Yeah. Even no interest in Jen. It's it's got to be

30:52jarring for her. Yeah. Not even like a looks thing, just a personality thing. If you're, yeah. Oh, yeah. If you have an option for bubbly Kayleigh, why would you go for somber and downtrodden Jen. Who's just a horrible friend too. Yeah. Yeah. So, um, all right. Well, everyone, thank you for listening. Listen, we've got 14 in the box here. Feel like and Sean, you may have said it the best. Are we running out of steam? The answer might be yes. We're gonna, we're gonna keep watching. We're gonna be here. Maybe we get a trailer next episode for whatever is coming next. I think it has to be regular below that. Would I get it to see? Yeah. It has to be. Yeah. So hopefully. All right, guys. Thank you for listening. We'll see you next week. Bon voyage.