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Mark Mothersbaugh is DEVOted: Part 2
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More Chinwag with DEVO’S co-founder, and author of the beautiful new book “Apotropaic Beatnik Graffiti”, Mark Mothersbaugh. Mark shares his earliest memory of AI which happened to involve Timothy Leary’s AI therapist! Then, DEVO’s frontman takes us back to a memorable church trip when he hears people speaking in tongues. And what’s all that got to do with The Flintstones?
What’s the importance of collecting stuff, and how does it contribute to AI? Also, a discussion on the significance and symbolism of the evil eye, which is the most reliable and important sense, and Mark’s incredible personal mail art collection. Paul reveals his recurring dreams while Mark wraps up this Chinwag with a wild tale of a 12-movie acid trip. Get on board!
Paul Giamatti is an award-winning actor and producer, and the self-proclaimed Emperor of Neptune. Stephen Asma is a professor and author specializing in the philosophy of science, religion, and art. He also is the acting Minister of Triton for the Chinwag.
Mark Mothersbaugh is an artist, composer, and co-founder of the influential rock group DEVO. His latest art book titled “Apotropaic Beatnik Graffiti” is a collection of neo-dada streams of conscious visual poetry.
Note: Headshot for this week's cover art is courtesy of Brent Broza 📸
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