March 11/D70: Hanging With The King (Ex. 24-27)

0:00he wanted to be with his people. And obviously, there's so many reasons why he couldn't be specifically because of what happened in the Garden of Eden. Welcome to Rinse Reflect Repeat, the daily podcast inspired by my action-driven devotional and guide to reading the Bible through in a year, alphabetically. I'm Anita Cordell, and each day we'll walk through the Bible, discovering how even books like Leviticus and Numbers speak to our daily lives. These short devotions are here to cleanse our hearts and transform our perspectives. So, grab your Bible, open your heart, and let's journey through the living water together. It's time to rinse, reflect, and repeat. Okay, so we are on another day's podcast. And today's podcast, I am calling, hanging with the King. And I have a very special guest on here today. I want you guys to all welcome Carrie Fabian.

1:00She actually is a very good friend of mine. And if you have gotten the devotional so far and you've read the acknowledgement section, Carrie is listed in the acknowledgement section. And I wanted to have her come on because today is a really cool day, and you will see why she is on here. We are on day 70 of walking through the Bible. If you're following the dates, it's March 11th. And today's morning rinse is Exodus 24 through 27. And you're going to read how the Moses goes up to the mountain, and he gets the instructions of the tabernacle. And so go ahead and read those chapters and come on back. And we're going to talk about the featured verse. Okay, so the featured verse is Exodus 24 11, yet he did not stretch out his hand against the nobles of the sons of Israel. And they saw God and they ate it. So the first of the precursor, we bought a house about eight

2:00years ago now. And when we purchased our house, one of my favorite memories was when we moved into our new house, there was like all these neighborhood kids. They began showing up at our front doorstep just to hang out with our two teenage kids. And it was amazing to us. We had initially invited them over to just shoot some basketball and eat some s'mores and play gaga ball. I don't know if you guys have ever played gaga ball. This is a very trendy hand game that's in this like makeshift pit or so. And once these like new found friends became really comfortable with us, they actually began to show up at our house just unexpectedly. They just to hang out and they would knock on our door and they would ask if my teenage kids were around and they just came to just hang out. And that very first summer, almost the entire summer that first year, it was like almost a nightly event to wear the like

3:01at least several of the kids you know around the neighborhood came over and there was always these extra kids in our home and sometimes sometimes that number was all the way to like 15 total kids just hanging out and just having a really good time and that memory of those summer you know, I mean, we had like sweaty teens all in and out of our kitchen grabbing snacks and water and kids giggling out in our patio and our husband, you know, grilling hot dogs and just a lot of extra fun. And I bring Carrie into this because she can relate from a natural standpoint as well as a spiritual standpoint where we're going to go with today's podcast because Carrie in my opinion is like a super chill parent. I was like, I'm no Carrie for a long time and she's got teenage kids and we've done kind of life together and her teenage kids kind of model what my teenage

4:01kids did back, you know, where your teenage kids also have friends that come over and just hang with you, right? In my mind, I will forever be grateful that our home was a place of comfort and peace for them to just hang out. And I view Carrie as that kind of parent as well, like her home. I've never been there before, but her home is just a place of peace where, you know, kids can come no matter what they believe, no matter where they're at in life. Carrie is somebody who I would want my kids to just be able to hang out with. So I bring all that to say that God loves hanging out with us in that same exact manner. He enjoys our company. He is not this, like, stern and gruff person with this judge's gable in his hand,

5:01waiting to crack it down, you know, on the sound block to just pass judgment on us for, you know, all of our latest wrongdoing. And so he literally enjoys us, and that's how I view Carrie's relationship with God. Like he enjoys us. I mean, wouldn't you agree, Carrie, I mean, you just... Yes, absolutely. Yeah, I feel that way, even with my kids and their friends, I know that there have been times when they're, if they have like a new friend come over that's never met my husband and I before. And they always kind of think that we're going to be, like, you know, the parents that are like, they're going to, the kids are going to go off and kind of hide in a different room because the parents are always... And I'm being controlling or stiff or... I don't know really what it is, but you know, that teenage thing. And then they'll find themselves hanging out with all of us. And we're just comfortable and we enjoy each other. And we're just having fun. And that's been a fun thing to see. I think that to see young people just have a different perspective

6:02of what it means to, like, even though, obviously, I am a parent and their friends of my teenage children. Like, so there's, we're on a, say, you can say different level. And yet we still very much enjoy each other's company and we can have just a nice time, even while maintaining that respect in those boundaries and just doing nothing, just hanging out and talking or... Yeah. Yeah. Well, it kind of... I like it too. You come across in the natural realm as really enjoying your kids and your kids as friends. Like, God enjoys us, just like that. And he created us. And, you know, another thing is, as I was, as we had moved into our new home, and I was unpacking, I found this, like, old painting of my daughters from when she was really little. I think she was a kindergartener when... And so I pulled it out and I did some decor revisions and I had this picture framed

7:04and I hung it up and I just think too. Like, in general, we enjoy just like God enjoys looking at us. We also enjoy looking at our creations, whether that's paintings or homemade decor or those cookies that we make for our guests. God is no different. He enjoys looking at us. He enjoys being around us. And so I was like, thinking to myself, can you imagine just sitting with him and laughing and eating and talking with him? And this is what he wants. And so in today's morning rinse, God had brought Moses, Aaron, Nadab, and Abihu, along with, I think there were 70 elders up into this mountain to kind of hang with him. And I know that he had some barriers there that they couldn't actually go super close into him. But he brought them up, not to judge them, but to be with them and to give them the instructions of the tabernacle and he spent time with them.

8:04And he gave them those detailed instructions for Moses to build the tabernacle so that he could dwell amongst the rest of the people because he wants to be with us. And that was where that whole story was, along with it. And I know that you've been studying the tabernacle and, you know, some interesting things about it, which I didn't even know that you had been doing a deep dive into the tabernacle. So I've been telling, until right before this meeting, which is so cool. But kind of tell us, like what you have been studying about, you know, what was going on with the building of the tabernacle. Yeah. So I think what kind of sent me on the deep dive again. It's all scripture I've read before. But they, you know, if you, typically when you're reading scripture, you're kind of, whether it's a book by book, you, you know, you're reading it left to right. And all those events don't happen back to back. All of the, the tabernacle and the temple.

9:04There's obviously a, a great amount of time in between them. And so I never started to make the connection. But there is, there's ones that scripture where, where God is instructing. And he says to tell my people to build this so that I can dwell with them. And I was really struck with God's heart in that. He wanted to be with his people. And obviously there's, there's so many reasons why he couldn't be, specifically, because of what happened in the Garden of Eden. Back in the Garden of Eden, back in the Garden of Eden, he, he had, he was in direct communion with Adam and Eve. They, they were together. And then when I started to kind of look at the Garden and the tabernacle, and then the first and second temple, I realized that the structure of them was all very similar. So in the Garden of Eden, they were in the presence of God. And then when Adam and Eve sinned, they forever severed that connection. And left had to leave the Garden of Eden and left to the East. And then at the East Gate, where the, their cherubim placed there with a flaming sword

10:04to guard the gate from anyone re-entering the Garden. And then looking at the instructions, because the scripture is so specific about the descriptions of the tabernacle and the temple and these things. And the, the tabernacle, then again, was instructed, and God said, to do this, so that I can dwell with my people. And the entrance to the tabernacle is from the East. And then the holiest of holies is all the way to the West, and it's in the tabernacle, which is guarded by cherubim. They're a cherubim that are sitting on the, on the, on the arc of the covenant. And actually, the curtain that separates the holy, the holy place from the holy of holies has cherubim woven into it. So this, very kind of like symbolic of the cherubim at the gate or the entrance to the presence of God, which now in the tabernacle is the arc of the covenant. Because he says, then I will, I will speak to you from above the arc. So being in that holy of holies place.

11:05And then the temple, then later on, that Solomon built, was, was the same, the gate face, the East. There were the cherubim that their wings have spread over the arc, and they guarded the presence of, of God. And studying all of that, but through all of that, God was, I mean, God is, actually, it's kind of silly, but when I was reading that scripture about, like, build this so that I can dwell with my people, and then seeing the actual, like, size of the room. And I'm, and I'm thinking, God is, Almighty Creator, omnipresent, omniscient God, right? And he's like, you can just put me in this tiny little box, like, right here in the temple or in the tabernacle, I'll just go in this little room, and that's where you can talk to me, and it may think of, in Aladdin, with the genie, and now, I'm not saying God's a genie, by any means, like, is God the Highest Creator, then that. But where he says, like, is itork is it like phenomenal cosmic powers? He knew he lived His faith in him days, you know,

12:05when he's referring to how he has to live in this tiny little land. And I thought, God was so desperate to be with us that He instructed the building of this temple and of the tabernacle so that He could be present with us. And then to know now with when Jesus came of that separation of the Holy of Holies, that veil being torn, and we're no longer separated from God's presence. No longer separated by, and from the cherubim, we're no longer separated by the veil. Now we get to have the Holy Spirit dwell within us. And I think we take that for granted. I don't think we realize just how special it is that we can just hang out with God. Like we don't have to go through the cleansing rituals and all of the sacrifice and all of the things, and quite frankly, if you weren't of the proper bloodline, it didn't even matter. You didn't even have the chance to enter the Holy of Holies. Only if you were of the priestly line, could you go into the Holy of Holies? And I know I'm not, because I'm a Gentile.

13:06So the fact that I can have and sit in God's presence wherever I am with no free ceremonial type of things I had to do, it just makes me so grateful, so much more grateful than I ever was aware I should have been before with Jesus and His sacrifice and just the true significance of that. But yeah, just learning to just, and then it doesn't matter where you are. Like that's a beautiful thing, is you can be anywhere and you can be in God's presence. And I don't have to go to some special spot. I don't have to set up some special scenario. God's presence is with me constantly. And I know, it's just so beautiful. Mm-hmm. Yeah, God is so cool that way. I mean, when you look at all of the instructions, he, like you are right, he was so detailed with what he was looking for in the tabernacle. I mean, in those instructions with, you know, the bronze altar in the veil and the curtains

14:08and, you know, just all of the things that he was so detailed about and yet how that Christ has revolutionized our ability to just go right to Him and hang out with Him. I don't know, it's so cool. And I just liken that to how we on our earth like hanging out with other people. But yet God is so deeply wanting us to be with Him so much so that He sent His Son. I mean, we don't have to do all the things that they had to do. Those are some interesting observations and really cool to hear your deep dive into the tabernacle and how yet we can hang out with Him so easily. Yeah, it just, it showed God's desperation for us, the desperation to then be willing to be in a small little room and then truly to understand His desperation to sacrifice His only Son. So that He could then dwell with us as He said

15:09and now walk with us as His people. And just God's love for us is just so, so great that He's willing to take His huge incredible, uncontainable self and contain a portion of Himself in this small room and then after that to then take again, a grand portion of Himself which is His Son, a portion of the Trinity. And again, sacrifice that so that we can just be in communion with one another again, like in the garden. It wows me that God loves us that much, that He would just so deeply sacrifice of Himself. I love how you are saying the word desperate. It's like God is so desperate to just be with us. That, you know, He comes into this little box in the tabernacle, this little room, I never thought of it that way, that He is so desperate and He still is so desperate

16:11to be with us wherever we are at. And I guess the big question today is, do are we that desperate? Do we want to be with Him? Do we long and have that hunger? And, you know, if we don't, then we can ask God for that hunger to be desperate and to want to be with Him just as much if, you know, if He wants to be that desperate, can we also be that desperate to hang out with Him? So I think of it, you know, the just kind of the hanging out with Him. When you're gone on vacation and vacation is fun and exciting and you're always like, yeah, I can't wait for vacation. But then towards the end, you just start to feel like, I just can't wait to be home. Like there's not anything grand at home. You know, there's no like surprises or excitement or new things waiting for you at home. But just you, you just long to be home. And then that moment when you finally get home

17:11and you get to sit wherever your comfortable spot is in your house and you just finally like, and you can just be at peace. Like, is that how we feel when we finally allow ourselves to tune into God? Is that how we feel? Like we have this built in longing in our souls to be with God. And I mean, we were created in His image. So in His image, we have that desperation as well. And if we can allow ourselves to recognize that and to then just sit in His presence and breathe and relax and to just settle, I just, I don't think we know how to settle anymore, to just calm ourselves down and just be present and not be constantly thinking of what's next. So that would be a really good challenge to dig deeper with the people who are listening or watching is that there's a lot of different ways to hang with our Heavenly King.

18:13Like a lot of different ways. So some hang with Him by like meditating on scripture, others hang with Him by conversing with Him as they drive. Others love the peace that they feel while they're in their church home. But however anybody likes to hang with Jesus, it's that effort of what people want to make every single day. And so I like how you mentioned how that it's just, I think we've forgotten how to just turn the other noise off around us and just hang and chill and just be with Him and to talk with Him and laugh with Him and just hang with the King. And do you have any other suggestions that maybe somebody is listening here and they are listened to us talking about how cool it is to hang with the King. And even though we don't have the tabernacle,

19:14we don't have to have the tabernacle go right to Him. And maybe somebody who's listening to this or is watching online, they can't yet figure out how to do that or maybe some other examples of just hanging with Him. Do you have any guidance or suggestions or things that maybe you do that might help them to relate to, oh, I can do that and still talk to God, you know? I guess I would just for my own personal experience, maybe encourage people to go counter to what they think their personality is or what their nature is. So I am not a morning person. Anybody that knows me well knows I'm not a morning person when I get text from Anita like 4.30 in the morning. I'm like, how are you awake right now? I hope I don't hurt you up. No, I see it later when I actually do wake up that it came in at 4.30. But I'm just, I'm not a morning person at all. But I realized my desperation for time with God.

20:16And so instead of trying to go into something that was comfortable for me, I tried to go the exact opposite. And so I would wake up and I do regularly wake up about an hour and a half earlier than I need to to just sit in quiet time with God. And sometimes I'm so tired I can't read because if I read a fall asleep and so recognizing your own limitations is also okay. But then that just means I'm just sitting and just it's like when you have that comfortable friend where the silence is comfortable. You know, you have the awkward silence and the comfortable silence. I just have my comfortable silence with God. And sometimes I'm praying and talking with him. And other times I'm just like, I have a big chair and I curl up in it. And in my mind, I'm just curling in my father's lap like a little kid, I'm just crawling up in his lap. And as you would with a father, like I don't need him to necessarily to tell me a story or to talk to me or do anything. I just want to sit on his lap.

21:17I just want to sit with him just to be with him. But all that to say, like it is very counter to who I am waking up that early. But I found that it's changed everything for me. It's changed my daily, my day in and day out and the way I feel during the day, the way I process things and spiritually, mentally, emotionally, how I am. It also then makes my actual morning routine so much easier because then by the time I actually do have to start getting ready, I'm ready. So anyway, just to say like just maybe if you get creative, if the things that you've tried before haven't always worked, maybe go counter to what you would expect would work well for you and you might be surprised. And then give it time. That's the other thing is in the same way that I was describing like home feeling comfortable and relationships, relationships usually aren't comfortable immediately. You don't have the comfortable silence right away. Sometimes it's awkward silence and eventually it develops into comfortable silence. And you know, when you first move, that home isn't like, oh, home,

22:18but after living there for a while, it starts to become that. So just also being patient in whatever the areas are that you try, don't do that one time wake up early one time or stay up late one time or find a corner spot one time and be like, yeah, that didn't work for me. That's like meeting somebody for the first time and be like, oh, you know, we stopped talking for five seconds and it was awkward so we're not going to be friends. Like being patient. Being patient. Yeah, and another thing too is that, you know, hanging with the king and having those moments with God can happen, you know, yes, we want that devotional time. I know you read your devotional in the morning and have your quiet time. But then there's also, you know, throughout the day, we can also hang with him and have those moments of talking with him throughout the day. It's like this conversation like you're talking about the silence, but there's also as well when, you know, when we're with that really great friend,

23:18we can be real with them. We can, you know, share as more of a conversation and hanging with the king is like that as well. We can hang with him and talk with him throughout the day in various, you know, whether you have a big chair and you're hanging out with him at night or whenever it's like a, he's with you all the time and hanging with him is part of him, allowing him to do life with you is kind of a way to describe it. And also too, one of the things that you do that I love is that when you go to, you know, film festivals or, and by the way, if anybody doesn't know Carrie, she's a fellow actress as well and helps with film and stuff, so that's how I know Carrie. But one of the things that you, you have done and have made a habit of for years is when you go to film festivals, you will take people's business cards and you will bring them home.

24:19And every day you pull out a different business card and you pray for those people in the industry. And that is in and of itself hanging with the king as well because you're actually talking to God about this person and if God's saying, I need for you to pray about this if something comes into your spirit about praying for that individual about that, it's all part of the process as well. Like we can have silence, we can have conversation, we can pray for other people. And I feel like I liken that, you know, you do that on a regular basis. I think daily you pray for people from your business card bowl. And, you know, like you said earlier, you know, you don't have to go into the Holy of Holies, you don't have to go into that little room that was in the tabernacle, we now can go directly to his throne and climb up in his chair and talk to him right then. So that's so cool. Thank you, yeah, yeah, absolutely.

25:21I guess it's funny as you were talking, I was thinking like I have very intentional time every morning and that's when I pray for all the people in the industry and stuff like that. But I guess I didn't think of, I mean, I do, I hang out with that all day. It's because it's in everything. I don't maybe even really realize that I'm doing it. I know that doesn't entirely make sense, but I guess what I'm saying is in all things in life, all day long, I might be walking through the grocery store and see something and I'm talking to God about it. Like I am regularly talking to God all day long. Now generally I do most of the talking. I guess that's just, I'm not, although I do try to listen and usually it's when I don't realize I'm listening that that's when God is able to speak to me. But I just, it's so casual and that almost feels wrong because I am also very reverent of God,

26:24but then that hanging with the king, as you say, it is a very casual like throughout the day. He's there all the time. So whatever it is that's on my mind, as you would with a good friend or a spouse or a family member, like you're just regularly talking to the people you love about the things that are interesting or the things that have come up or the things you're thinking about. And that's what I do with God, date, like all day long. I probably annoy him with as much as I talk to him. I don't know, I doubt that. I doubt that. He probably chuckles once in a while. I'm sure I'd say probably chuckles with some of the things that I do too. He probably chuckles, but I don't know. I don't know. But I think sometimes we do try to make it too much of a thing. We do try to make it a bit more of that the ceremonial washing before going into the holy of police. And God's like sitting next to us like, what are you doing? Like I'm right here. Just why, you can start talking to me already.

27:26Like we're already here, we're already together. Like you don't need to do a thing. We don't need to make this into a big thing. Like I was with you five minutes ago. I'll be with you 30 minutes for now. So, you might as well just talk. Like, you know, I just, yeah, I do. I think we just make it into a big deal. And those best relationships, like the great friendships that you can have is when it's not a big deal. When you're just hanging out, I sometimes will say to one of my kids that they're hanging out with their friend, like, what are you guys doing? And they're like, hmm, we're just hanging out. Do you want me to plan something? They're just hanging. And they haven't made plans because they don't need to. They're just there together and that's enough. That is so cool. I like just how you also reiterated that it's all day long in everything that we do. We're really hanging with God, hanging with the King, going to the store together, talking to him about stuff in the store. Whatever it is, we're already doing that. And he wants to continue that with us.

28:27He wants to not make it such a big deal, right? But I do like that there's intentional times that we spend in our devotion time and in our times with him, whether it's reading the Bible through in a year or whatever you're doing, that intentional time is there, but then also too, we hang with him throughout the rest of the day. So I like those examples. And I like what you brought about the details of the tabernacle and just some of the things that we're reading in Exodus right now with all of the details that are lined up, God's so specific. And he's a detailed God, you know? He's not got a chaos. And I think it just spoke to me about his heart so much. When I was seeing like, when he detailed the tabernacle and he detailed the temple, you could see his heart longing for the garden. Like, I feel like maybe that I'm being a bit presumptuous

29:31maybe like to assume I know what's got, what is God's heart in that. But it's just, you know, when you start to see, you can see people's thoughts and their longings in the things that they're doing and in the actions and stuff like that. And I just felt like in the way God set up the temple and the tabernacle, he just, it's so mirrored when he used to be in direct communion with Adam and he's and that longing to return to that in whatever way he could figure out to, and I mean, and we were so good as humans to screwing it up basically every time that he kept having to get creative and, but like, he just kept like that longing to return to that space was just, it just, it meant so much to me to just know that he just, he just loves us that much that he just wants to be with us and so much of what he's done through time. And you know, the tabernacle was created to be mobile

30:33because they were wandering. And so he, so that was his way of like, I'm wandering with you. Like, you take me with you. Don't build a temple or, you know, like sometimes they would like build an altar of stones and then like, because this is where God had a thing and then they leave it. He was like, you know, this, you're building this thing and we're going along together. Like, I'm coming with you. And then when they finally had this the permanent space for Solomon to then build the temple, then it was a more permanent space for that promise fulfilled and so on. Anyway, yeah, it's just, God is so cool because, you know, how, like what you were saying, how that it was, he was wanting, he's like, I'm wandering with you. Take me with you. And how relevant that is in our lives today is he, he's like, take me with you on your life's journey. Don't leave me back. You know, if you're looking for a new job, I want to go with you into that interview.

31:33I want to go with you in that decision. Like, I'm coming with you. Whatever you are doing, I'm wandering with you. That is so cool. I love that. So it's hanging with the king or wandering with the king. What the hell is going on with the king or singing it? Whatever it is. However, we're hanging with the king, that's so cool. I think sometimes people think that their Bible, like that this is where God's presence is or in wherever it is that they go to church on Sunday morning. So that like they set down their Bible, say they're really good and they do their morning devotion and they're evening devotion, whatever. They set down their Bible and like, that's where God stays. He's just, that's his presence and I'm going to go walk away from it. And God's like, yeah, no, that's just my word. I'm walking with you. We can return back to that. But that's not like God doesn't live in this book. He lives here. And he doesn't live in that church building. He lives here because we are the church. That's just a building. And like with our church family,

32:34we are very intentional that like when we say we're going, we always say we're going to the building on the like instead of a lot of people will say on Sunday morning, like, oh, I've got to go over to the church and we're very intentional about saying to the building. That's what we call it. I mean, I guess other churches will call it the tabernacle or whatever they have their own names for it. But just and I know it's a mantix, but just to be specific to say like we are the church, we are where God's presence is. That is just a building where we all kind of collect on a regular basis. But that's that. So God isn't stuck in that building. Like I always want to put him in these little holy of holies places, right? And I'm like, no, I'm done with that. Yeah, yeah, I could be done with that. We're not we're not doing that little box anymore. We're not doing that. Yeah. So that's a really good challenge for people who are watching or listening, you know, all of these examples and all of the ways that we've been talking about how to hang with the king

33:35and just really trying to gather or grasp a little bit of his heart to want to hang with them. So, you know, that challenge of whoever is watching or listening, how can they be challenged to really change the perspective of God's not in the book, but we're here and God's in our hearts. And how am I going to, you know, feel like I'm hanging with the king. And so when people pull out their journal tonight or when they're reflecting on their day, I want people to write down what they did today to hang with God. Did they solidify kind of what was in their hearts? Like, am I really close to God when I'm talking to him? You know, maybe people were listening to this and they didn't realize that they were actually hanging with the king when they were talking to God or maybe they just are wanting a little bit more of a confirmation that they are close to God when they're talking.

34:35So I'm wanting people to pull out their journal and just write down today, like what did I do today to hang with God or was it a really cool observation that I actually am hanging with God when I'm doing this? Like, just something that makes them feel empowered to go to God and makes them feel like, you know, hey, I'm on the right path in my hanging out with the king kind of a thing. And so I'm really feeling good and confident and loved and like God's really wanting to be with me. And so just having people write down in their journal something that maybe struck this conversation and make them think a little bit more about that and just give them a boost and umph that yes, I'm on the right track. And yes, I am hanging with the king or this is what I did or I did this, you know, even a little bit more. Just something that will encourage people

35:38as they're listening to what you have to say, Carrie and, you know, hearing that God really does want to hang with us. Yeah, so he is desperate for it. So is there anything else that you that comes to mind that you wanted to add as we're closing out this? Yeah, just encouraging that and something that I try to do just to increase my awareness, you know, we can kind of just go into that like autopilot and to just be more aware of the fact that God is with us all the time and to take advantage of that a little bit more in communicating with him throughout the day to not just be stuck on autopilot but to be really present in every moment and talk with your creator, hang with the king, he's with you all day long. So just be present, be aware and again, be patient

36:42because sometimes it takes a while to develop that and even just the ability to develop an awareness can take time. So be patient with yourself and forgiving with yourself. It's not something that you have to nail and be perfect at every day. Again, as relationships go, some days we do really great in our relationships and some days we kind of mess up and we need to ask for forgiveness or just work to be better the next day and God is full of grace and forgiveness for us and so we don't need to be perfect in it. So just be patient. No, no. See you guys if you're listening or if you're watching online, you know now why I love to carry so much and love me and just getting a little bit of an insight. She's such a great soul. So I hope that today encouraged you guys as we were talking about the dynamics of hanging with the king and I hope and I know carry hopes that you guys are encouraged

37:43and you can be intentional or aware of your conversations with God and hanging with him. So thank you all for coming. Thank you, Carrie, for coming. And until tomorrow, keep rinsing, reflecting and repeating.