LIVE Grow Tips to Handle Explosive Growth In Early Flower

0:00What's up, real DDC live baby, day. We're gonna talk about tips. Tips in the early flower stage, or really likes the sexy late flower stage. We're gonna talk pre-bud set that aggressive growth, things you can do. We're gonna get into a little mom care, and we have an awesome guest today hanging out with us, Chad Westport in the house, baby. Yeah. What a brother. Oh, let's hell yeah, man. Thank you, man. Good hanging. Maybe we might see Chad on Saturday, who knows? Looking for a wedding. I like your seed collector shirt there. I think, I don't know if I say this right, just tell him, Chad might have a hot drop to talk about. Might be talking about some hot drops. Dude, I do. I dropped it like a hat. I don't know, you're gonna wear this shirt, man. I feel like you have to go change it. Who sees? Yeah. My other one was wrinkly.

1:00Right. These guys, unplanned okay, unplanned, a lot of team bro, right? Man, are you a live brother? I am. How you living? I'm going. I say, hey, who's got the, I start with what we're smoking? We're, Grambo, what is that? Oh, brunt from our buddies, I rock out there in the Duke Rose Adam Dunn Nation. He's like, are you guys gonna be hanging out with the out of the bakery? I said, I was and he's like, here's a jar of some Han Solo burger. And a lot's been smoked out of there. He's got some full jar and it's some Lario G. Look at that. I have to GMO. So good to butt, man. Well, organic. There's it. Yeah, it's like his, like 47th or 27th run of turn and beds. You know a little bit about that, Chad Westboard. That's a lot of turns. Turn and that is. Grambo. Turn and beds, but. Oh, please. And what would he, what's up? Oh, yeah, what's up?

2:00Nah, it's just good for talking soil, man. I'll start talking soil. Well, before we got too deep, I did this one. I don't know, Grambo has this slink here. I wanted to give a shout out, man, because we lost Peasy. Uh, that's been. Yeah, man. He's got a member Scotty had us on. I don't know if it was the 2B blunt or he was like the intro. He came up with it. I felt like I was walking out into the ring. I called him like, just, go ahead. It's just such a nice dude, man. You know, he's got a family and stuff. Maybe in Grambo, we're talking about it. And he, uh, yeah, man. So anyway, off. Yeah, well, Miss Peasy, man. Yeah, he was a musician. He was, he used to do a professional wrestling. So he's exactly the guy you would think he was. He was cool. Great father. And his go fund, my first family still is open. You guys can go over to my YouTube channel or there, YouTube channel. You'll find the link. And he left two, two cute babies and a beautiful white rock in the heart. So shout out to you wherever you are riding the electron. But yes, that's where he got the announcing from being

3:01like an amateur professional wrestler. Because he was like, we're coming out here. Yeah. I'm going to show you out. Ultimate warrior eyes. Cool, man. He was cool. Yeah. So some people are too good for this world. And he was one of them. So we'll see you on the other side. You know, you know, how he signed off on his last ever podcast? No, he signed out with that. He goes, what guys? You never know. We'll see on the other side. That was the last thing he ever signed into a mic is to see on the other side. Just creepy, weird coincidences and whatever's going on up there. We don't know. But yeah, there are no coincidences. There's no coincidences. God only information you don't yet have. I think so. I stole it from the no agenda website. All right. What'd you go with the Ross and other res in Scotty? What do you smoke? The Ross and it did not disappoint. Is that the number six that I'm? Oh, yeah. What is right? We have the six who made that? Do we know not the six?

4:03We just have jars called number six. Yeah. No, that's the good leftovers brother. I'm going to tell you what we're doing. Oh, man, I'm smoking on this lemon sco, go ahead. Hit it. Hit it. Oh, I was so excited. I just took a big old way for this. I'm like, I love it. So this is it's nice and green. Yeah, shout out to the green stuff. NL5 crossed with haze. So big shout out to some of bitch. Some bitch seeds. But these are classic building blocks for a lot of things. And this has the perfect like lemon NL5 nose to it that. I'm happily smoking on this stuff. I believe that was the big cannabis cup winner. Back I want to say 94 95. And because there's right when I was, I actually was so desperate for good genetics. I went the Amsterdam to get them. And I remember that was like NL5, he's the NL5 by Hades, right? Yep, yep, yep.

5:04And NL5, I believe that was the winner. It was maybe 95. Somebody checked my map on that. I mean, they're both, they're both such big building blocks. So NL stands for Northern Lights, right? And there was actually more than one. The number five is the one that got kind of circulated and popularized. So that's why we get NL5 out of it. But yeah, Northern Lights number five, building blocks for so many of the things that are like two generation, well, two cycles removed away from like cookies and where we're at today. And then Hays, I mean, Hays still stands alone. The Hays stands alone. I did that for Grammy. What's the problem with Hays? First of all, it was 93. It did land cannabis cup overall. But what is up with Hays, man? It's just there's a super long. That's why I always thought that they're... If they're not crossed, yeah. Yeah, yeah, they're more like a equatorial plant. They take a long time. Some of them can be 14 to 16 weeks in flower.

6:04They get really tall, they stretch. They don't always produce them best. But what about this just wild psychedelic? Hi, that's what makes them, that's what makes the Hays heads. Banner, anybody you like, Hays, man? You're my strain of fish and not at all. All right, I'm not looking for that kind of buzz anymore. Is that what you call a setee by? Definitely, definitely. Are Hays or Sativas? Yeah, like Rock and Ship. Do you always drink out of juice boxes or is this just for the show? Is this Chad Westport? That's his thing, man. It's organic. It's organic. Don't panic. Gristery, man. You're complex, Chad West. I was gonna say, I think Chad could relate to what I'm not what I'm going through, but I'm smoking on lemon skunk number three. I've grown out three Finos, a lemon skunk from seed, all a little bit different. But there's different reasons. Like, at first I'm thinking, I'm just gonna pick the one that has the best flavor, but I'm also leaning to this other one because it was easier to trim.

7:04But then lemon skunk number two roots quicker than the other Finos. So there's not just the effects. It's all the growth characteristics with rooting, with bud structure. Like just going through three Finos, taking me, it's taking me a bit of work. I might sound like we've got this here. Yeah. No. Not a lot of people ask, what do you select for? What's the first thing that you're looking for? And you wish you could say, the aroma, the taste, or the effects, but that's after the fact. You can already tell if it's growing how you want a plant to grow. So usually, yeah, morphology is the first thing that stands out to me. I don't know why I went back. What stood out to you in no joke? Because I've already seen in the chat here some no joke going on. I think Chonky's got some going and you got some actually for sale. But yeah, what's the deal with that? What was the one thing? It doesn't have to be the one thing, but that everybody that, why it is no joke, bro. Yes.

8:05So I'm stoked because there's really two main phenotypes to it, which as we maybe will talk about later, getting genetic stable. Anyway, so you can reliably, you're gonna get one of two things. But I like the morphology, because tent growers, that's primarily the people who are gonna be growing these, that's me, that's myself. So short squat bush kind of takes to training well, but doesn't need a bunch of it. So again, that morphology is I'm trying to lock in, but then also the just the butt appearance. And evidently, it's a fantastic washer. Like that's always a happy accident because I'm a former flower guy, but it's turned out to be a great washer for people. That is Chonky Nugge's washing and squishing some of Chad's no joke. Yes. Beautiful. She looks like a gusha. Shout out to you. What is that Chonky? What are you pressing with? What's your press of choice? Is it homemade? Chonkyrus. I don't know if that,

9:05what's the auto washer thing here? Oh, oh. The A3 green. Yeah, that thing's a pretty fancy piece of kit. Yeah. If you guys also should be going now, as were if you guys want to pick up some no joke, check out ChadWestboard.com, going over there, I think that placed well, do we recall, man, on the DDC cup, I remember there's definitely some entries of no joke. Nice. Good to see you. Chonky Nugge had some of the Miss Cooler ice rosen with him and he's, he's great about sharing these things, which is freaking awesome. And I finally got my hands on some no joke rosen. So we shared it with him. That was awesome. Still is awesome. Hell yeah. Hey, man, how do you guys think it's actually in the crew? How do I bow y'all? Who makes rosen? Because it's not that hard, right? It's just, I mean, you do have to get it. Gotta have the press, right? I mean, you could use the hair straight and everything on the budget. Are they that expensive anymore? Let me know, let me know in the chat. I want to know how much it costs to get a decent rosen setup.

10:06And I don't think a freeze dryer is involved, do you? You think you need a freeze dryer? No? I mean, good. Doesn't have to. Yeah, doesn't have to be. You can, doesn't have to be. But, you know, I am far from the hash expert because I am really just a flower guy. But yeah, many ways to do the hash thing. Wow, man. All right. So no, no squishing for you, man. Graham Bo, no, you wouldn't make your own hash, right? I probably would have back in the day. But nowadays, this is like, there's a lot of work. It's everything rare, man. When your closest friends are 10x better than you. Exactly. And I do your titles on your YouTube channel and you make me some rosen. Yes, we do. That's a good deal. What's it up to some growth talk, man? Honda, Pam. Yes, sir. We got some early flower tips. I want to get into a grand. Let's do a clip here. Talk about the early flower phase and some tips

11:07to help you go into the second part of Bud. Man, yeah. We all get really pretty high. I think we all got really pretty high between shows. All of us to the man. We're really, so yeah, I can't really do it. OK, so we did the intro. This is coming in after ad. And we'll bring in Chad and after you guys bring it in. Yes, go ahead. Dude, takes. All right. I don't know. I'm starting to get there. All right, so let's hit this. Let's get into it. All right, guys, let's talk about the early flower tips. Like early stage, what do you consider the early stage? The first 21 days, the first two weeks, it's well. It's well in the plants. Aren't they starts to blow up, recognizing that the season's changing and it needs to stretch and be a pain in the ass, actually? Yeah, but by that time, you'd better be doing some things. I don't know. Let's talk about it. And because I have a few specific things that I do between, I don't know, in the first three weeks.

12:10All right. When I see split screen, I just got to give a disclaimer. We didn't plan this with the shirts. OK, it's bothering me a little bit. I'm going to change. It is a little weird, man, really honest. All right, we just talked about it. And we have a guest, Chad Westport, Greg Grover, Breeder, Chiming as well, anytime. Welcome. Managing the stretch. The heaviest stretch is usually like the first three weeks in the plant go crazy. You can feel like, man, I need to top this. You need to be able to train it. You want to try and keep the canopy eating by bending, stretching, bending over, maybe even breaking. I don't know if we recommend that to all the growers. We're doing the high-stress training. It's all right, man. Hey, Chad, you got any secrets, man? For techniques? For the first three weeks, you're trying to grow a squat plant. You're trying to stretch it out. Yeah, so knowing when to flip is the biggest thing about that. I mean, if you haven't grown a plant up past your lights, like you aren't trying, it happens to all of us.

13:10Because some different cultivars, they have different stretches. The Westport grape juice, if it's, you know, it has like a 50% stretch. So if it's this tall, it'll get this tall. Others are like a three-time stretch. So if it's here, it finishes up there. So knowing what cultivar you're working with is very important to know how much it stretches, because that dictates when you flip into flour, when you're using a grotet. So that's a big tip for me. Yeah, definitely. And about training, I mean, managing the stretch or you can do a hell of a lot with training, just like dude was saying high-stress training, literally just crimping the branch and just turning it sideways, seems crazy until you do it. If you've got a really healthy plant, man, you put that in a bamboo stake or in a trellis, and you get a lot of bud, a lot of good quality from that technique, yeah. So trellisins are great technique as well. If you want to just have all the places you can, bamboo, you kind of got to be strategic where you place it to have your tie outs for your branches.

14:11Trellis gives you ultimate amount of tie outs. Brandon, you can't move your plants around if you like to at all, but it gives you a good guide to fill the canopy. And there's different rules on that. A channel, I don't know if you know some people would be like, once your trellis is 50% full, that's when it's time to flip the flower, because you want to start trellis and embed, right? Yeah, ideally you get it on before then. And some people, especially those who are really trying to maximize every square, they'll typically do a couple different layers of trellis. Is you know, one is to really bend branches down and then have them kind of grow up towards the light, which again is filling in that different space. And then maybe later as they get taller and actually stretch, you may need a second layer to give them some support. So I think multiple ways to use it. Come on, did you see in the chat, who runs four trellis, this deep man, who's got the most challenges from their plants? It's gotta be. Manage, you know, the canopy in there, you know? If you're gonna swas or is it swas or swazing, what is it man?

15:12What is it? I've always gone with swazing, but that is, you know, as dude mentioned, the drawback of the trellis net is like once you're in it, you're in it. You're not moving plants around to get to the back one to water it. That's why it grow tense like, you know, the AC infinity, they have these zippers on the side. So you can access that one in the back corner if it is into the trellis net already. Do you do that? I was wondering what that was for, man. Do you do the one, two, one method, the one, 21? That's what I call day one, day 21. You strip all the damn leaves off. When I showed the crew how I did it, like dude, that's not a proper, like you still have the X amount of fan leaves, but although I took at least 50 to 60% of them off, I can just can't bring myself to go further. It's a lot more. I've worked commercially, which we just stripped them to their bare bones essentially. And then within a week, two weeks, you would never know it even got defoliated and you almost have to do it again. At home, I kind of like to leave a little bit more of the solar panels on, but if I have problems

16:15with microclimates or humidity in the tent, removing those leaves, it increases the airflow and reduces the amount of transpiration. So there's reasons for, you know, there's a lot of right ways. It's a hormone thing and it definitely works, man. By day one, the plant doesn't even know it's flowering in. Is you need to do this with strong plants? But so within four or five, at least seven days, man, that thing has refoliated and it looks like a healthy plant with leaves where they should be. And then by day 21, that plant has, I can't remember what, absolute. That's what you want. They bounce back. No, day 21, you remove them again and it sends abscissed acid or something like that. It sends this hormonal response to the plant. They kicks it into a flask mode. Yeah, it just makes us flowering signal to keep on flowering. Yeah, it won't be replacing.

17:16If you continue to take off your fans, you're not going to get nearly as much aggressive with the replacement growth. So that's the stop day. Yes. Yes. Let's say this one, I don't know, back in the day, people be like, you don't need nitrogen. You're going to bloom like taper down to nitrogen, cut out your nitrogen, taper it down. Tapering down is one thing, cutting it out, definitely not. You still need nitrogen, some degree, all the way through the flowering stage, right? Fair enough to say. Pretty much. Yeah, pretty much through the majority of the flowering stage. That is kind of one of the things, the bro sciences we always like to say that has actually been caught up with real science over the time. And it used to be just, stop the day you flip it to flower. And now we know that you still need it in. I typically, like you said, I'll taper it down. But with three weeks left, it's getting zero nitrogen. It's not really getting too much nutrients from me at that point anyways, but taper it down. Yeah. But photosynthesis requires chlorophyll

18:16and chlorophyll is built with nitrogen, amino acids, enzymes, all those require nitrogen. Yeah, I noticed that, I think it's harder to different grow style chads, let me soil grower when you're growing with synthetics, you can control your inputs a bit more precise immediately. And I would see that, you know, I use KNA and B and it's a one-to-one ratio, pretty much they taper it off a little bit, but almost one to one all the way to the end when they cut it out last week. You see other products that have even like rainbow nutrients they got a phosphorous, liquid phosphorous, it still has one part nitrogen, NPK. And always a little bit included there. So that's, you know, same phosphous scot, you say the plants know how to stonest, grow dots have nitrogen in them to a degree to the end as well. That was a concern for me at first. Like, man, how can I get it out of here? You know, I had to extend it. I was surprised in the beginning when I was designing them. I was like, we got to cut the nitrogen when we go to bloom. And then I kept on having to extend it, man, because I was surprised how much nitrogen they actually use.

19:19They're actually need towards the end. And like chlorophyll, there's every new plant material is covered in chlorophyll. Like I said, that has nitrogen and then the chlorophyll molecules don't last forever either. They're constantly regenerating and you know, what are being replaced. And you need that. That's why you need more of course, when your plants grow in like crazy. Of course, because every, you know, every piece of green there needs nitrogen and every amino acid and enzyme that's making all those reactions needs it. But once you get, you know, a deeper in the flower, you're not making a bunch of green stuff anymore. Yeah, I just remember in back to OG, the DDC Dr. J, one time I asked him, dude, what are you used for your nutrient there? He's like, oh, you know, those blue crystals, 20 clench hands. For the blue crystals. Sorry. So to be honest, man, because that's just liquid feed. And then it stays probably just using something. Oh, quality.

20:20Quality. Is it the cool bloom probably? If I'm just in the 4030s? Now that's all the, as those numbers too are relevant to dilution. I just want to say that, Graham will mention the 5030, whatever. Like, that's all relevant to the dilution that you give it, right? It can be a five or five. You know what I'm saying? So it depends on how you use it. You know, the liquid stuff is, I'm seeing a lot more powders being used. Don't take that the wrong way. One more thing, light. Scott, you tripped out on, on DLI. You like to hit this one pretty heavy, because you lose light. You're going, you're losing what? Six hours of light when you have a 12, 18 on to 12 on. Yeah, man. I mean, you lose a third of the light, right? 6, 12, 18 if you're on an 18 hour cycle. Now you're on a 12 hour cycle. Yeah, so you have to do the math. It's interesting, but you have to dollar your lights up by 50%. So if you're at 600 PPFD, if you're got a, it's a pretty strong veg.

21:21You put 900 PPFD just to keep your plants at the same DLI, which is literally just the same overall amount of light they're getting per day. That makes sense. The less light the more you get, I turn it up, because you don't have as much time in the day to give it to them. I'm looking at your show notes here, and I feel like I'm in school, like looking at the chalkboard of all types of sites. You know how I was like, yeah, I don't know. I was just looking at all the, the DLI's and all that. And what is it? Just don't, yeah. Don't forget to pay attention to your, most of everybody, not everybody. Most people have an LED hanging up these days that's dimmable. And you could be waste in light and veg. You could not have enough in flour. Make sure you're paying attention to that knob and we've talked plenty about how to check your PPFD. There's a lot of ways. And putting it out, the applicable amounts on there, if you're not wasting power. Wait, show that, man. You show that. That's hilarious.

22:21Me and Kat, me, we were bullshitting this morning. Like, 95, right? Those are just, it does, man. 95 alive, dude. That was a good movie. I dug it. I dug it. Yeah, it's you know the lights at. I'm, I'm thinking, I'll just say that, maybe nine, I'll say a thousand to 1100, thousand with no CO2 in flowering. What do you, what do you recommend? Mr. Westwood. I typically do about eight to 900. I'm with the 100 crew. Without without the CO2, I mean, a thousand isn't out of the, you know, ordinary 1200, if you are running CO2, but I tend to run things a little bit gentler. And that, you know, even goes back to the nitrogen issue too, like later in flower, is that really helps with biomass. But sometimes biomass isn't the end goal for every grower, where it would be commercially. So that also too can change how things get fed. But yeah, the nitrogen,

23:22now they do all those secondary metabolites. I should have nitrogen too. It's interesting. Yeah, I went back to it. But yeah, sorry, eight or 900 PPFD is typically what I do. And you mentioned the dimmer, you know, it's always funny how sometimes people are like, do I crush it in veg, but flower it kind of failed, but you were running your light 100% in veg and now you still 100% in flower with less hours. So that's, that's of course the argument of buying a little bit more than you need. I like it. Hey, I mean, I get the easiest math. So if you're running 600, that's 26 DLI. If you're running 900 PPFD, it's 39 DLI, man. So when you do the math, man, you've got, that's what you got to do. You've got to extend it. You know, so you've got to make your, that was the wrong math by the way, but you have to go from 600 to 900. Do I just, we'd get a deal, I'd deal like calculator online. Is that how it works?

24:22Yeah, do you have a equation? You yell it into the air, you know? No, but seriously, it's a, and Chad made a good point earlier when you're thinking about this. It is if you are using CO2 or not, ambient CO2, 400 PPM-ish, 400 plus, maybe 500 in the house with people who can get up to 600 something sometimes. You don't need to run that high. You can take your PPFD down because it's not, you're not gonna benefit from having that without the CO2 to do agree. Correlation. All right, give me some comments, people. Can I say that? You people, you people, you growers. Give me some comments on what is going on. Well, if you're early flower chips, the first 20 days, the first month, before you really get that bud setter, tips and tricks that you do to help you get the best canopy. Yes, all right. Thank you, Chad. Good hanging out, brother. I appreciate that. Yep, sir. My pleasure, everybody loves a tip. Hi, man. We're still here.

25:22So we're still, that was under-clin, but we're still here. I was just thinking, I was gonna say, hey, at least we're not alive. Shh. I don't see what the big deal though is though, but hey, how's that? All right, we'll go on. Did I just say that? Or think it? Ah. Oh, good shit, man. I don't know if you wanted to touch on this. Chad, we've talked about it a bit. I was gonna shout out to you. I, sorry. I think there's, our internet is a little bit glitchy, so let me reset it. Everything's okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We lost a connection. For some reason, we're connected to Chad, but not Chad. We connected to Star Link, sir. All right, everyone, uh, yeah, Riverrush. Right. Hang on. Hopefully they, oh, they realized they're Riverrush. You ended the segment after right time then. Right. Nature just knew to cut it off. Well, hopefully they Riverrush, because I'm back. I can see everybody go. I see our stick.

26:23They come so sorry. Yeah. I was just getting on and stuff, man. Angus has been having some issues. Yeah, what's up with the technology? Somebody says, effing a gramboy, I think it's you. I'm still here. Streams offline. I think you might need to start this. Oh, and I was back. When I cat, yes, I, I, I have active stream. It says connected. George, all right. Well, back, we're back. And all that lights guys pulling out. Blue a breaker, man. That's right. Too much power. Internets. I got a shout out here. Yeah. Granbo, Granbo in the chat. I put the seats here down. Dotcom. Ford slash dude grows. Um, and we should ask Chad a minute to James being actually has like the doomsday counter thing up. Because he's not. Some of a bitch. So, but do take advantage. He has a very wide selection over there. He's pulling a lot of stuff literally like out of the vault

27:23stuff that he's kept. And who code dude will stack on top of anything he's doing. So it is a great time by seeds right now because a lot of hot deals going on. So go to ctrenound.com. Ford slash dude grows and coupon code dude on anything across the board. He supported us since 2015. So what with the dollars help a brother out? And I don't know. Do we want to talk about that for a quick minute? I mean, it's, uh, scars, nothing's really changing. Basically banking's going away. So it's really hard to run a business. What's going on with that, Chad? Will you tell us, man? You have a, a seed biz. Can you give us a little bit of inside perspective of what's going on? Yeah, sure. I mean, so November 12 was the deadline that we had. But it has been pushed back to December. And basically the language and the law is already in place. The period we're in right now is the line down, which gives, you know, legitimate, have businesses the ability to sell their inventory so they're not left holding it when it goes illegal.

28:25They pushed it back a month because they were trying to work out how to save certain aspects of the multi-billion dollar industry. But I don't personally see how 30 extra days is going to be the maker break point. So they're either going to like just wipe it out as it is or they'll extend it again, which I haven't heard them talking about. But again, I don't understand how, why would they use any insight? I'm no business man here, but if you wipe out a 30 billion dollar industry or whatever, how many billions it is, then those people have less money that like, everybody's benefited. Like for them to pass by other shit but get taxed on and city tax, sales tax, whatever else. There's better fitting all these tax revenues. Yeah, it's unfortunately, it's legislatures not understanding the right language to use, which is how we got into the situation in the first place. They banned THC but not THCA, which was taken advantage of. So now to stop that, they're just saying,

29:27we must stop all cannabinoids. When in both cases, it's like if you had a little bit of insight, you could have worded it better to save certain industries and protect the aspects you're trying to protect. So I do see the trickiness of, I don't know if I'm really a fan, I don't think I'm a fan actually. I'm not of being able to buy THCA flour at the gas station at the quickie mark. I'm kind of worried about quality control a little bit. People have an abat experience and put a bad name on wheat. So I understand them trying to address that. But yeah, the other parts of it, it's confusing. And then the old THC drink thing, it has to be pushed through to work because big alcohol now is behind THC drinks and they had a lot of money to push that shit. They do. I think they're still trying to figure out the single dose serving, which has been the elusive, that's the immunode. Oh no, 2.5 milligrams. They're gonna go low. Because it affects everybody differently, whereas a can of beer is gonna affect

30:2890% of the people in the same way. But they haven't figured that out yet for cannabis. So once they do, I think we'll see a lot of them. They roll it. Yeah, how can they put it in person? It's popular, man. That's the problem. And the dose and the way it hits you really quick. Who was I talking to? Somebody's just like I drink two of these, it hits you within 15, 20 minutes, the way they're men who infusing, whatever they're doing to the THC. And then it gets out of you pretty quick too. It could be just like whatever. You can. What did you feel it? Two, one was 10 milligrams per can. It was like kind of like a, I don't know, just sweet, it was kind of sweet, but like fake sugar, sweet. It was okay. And it's carbonated. And then the other one was a single can of 100 milligrams, whoa, with 90 grams of caffeine. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, a little bit more. Little bit more. Yeah, that's cool. So we were sharing that one.

31:31Yeah, I mean, I know. And this is a legit dose. I'm gonna, but I will take 100 to 150. Rambo, you go last or Chad West for what's your edible dose? I like 25 to 50. That's a good time for me. Yeah, yeah, you're right. 150, you're staying all, doesn't it? That's bettercated. Yeah. Yeah. No, it sounds as crazy as the original Cortez's juice, the original Cortez juice. We don't talk, we don't talk, we're talking Cortez juice, we don't talk Cortez juice. No, you don't. I will never forget when I said Cortez, what, you know, what is the milligrams on these? He just looked at me and just plain bluntly says, I don't do math. Okay. Good man. Good answer. Okay. Good man. Good answer. I have an autographed Cortez the Conqueror. Out of Lower Gnat. All right. It is signed at, I asked him to sign it, Goddamn it. Nice.

32:31Funny. Cool. Yep. Hamlin. He's broke collectibles. Nah, big ups, man. Cortez is awesome. Scotty, let's see if your stash is in stock here. Show, show one I cat cannabis right here. This guy does all this work by himself and just, I, where's his, yeah, did he's been building that for a while and proud of you, I cat. That's hell yeah. Man, that's nice work. That's what I ate by five and what the 10 by eight. But 10 by 10. 10 by 10. Yeah. Good. Yeah. Come on. That's a lot of work brother. So proud of you, man. Lazy stone or my ass. Yep. Shout out. Policie infinity set up. He's going to have an extract area. He's going to freeze dry like full process in facility. Maybe love it. Hey, what is that, man? What was that stuff? It wasn't the odor. It wasn't. No, it's a, it looks like it could be the odor of a Delta nine.

33:31I love it because they use the triangle, which is the, the symbol for Delta. Sure. See, he got the Delta nine Celta holograms. That would be delicious. That's a lot. I would love to say this too much. Right now, I was sitting on Scotty's porch waiting for Kenny to get here. Well, if we're making them, they hit you quickly. Do you know what, are they going to be able to get here each week? Right now, sir. Yes, I'm going to have a visit to Santa, but I'm also going to have a visit today. Santa, what would you make? A 25? Yeah. Yeah, 25 is reasonable. Dude, you're a 10 guy. Sorry for the general public. Yeah. No, I go 10, man. Really? Yeah, I would say 10, Max. I would go 5. And if you want to double, it's 10. Like, if it hits people that are newer to it, right, yeah. And then especially if they stack it, they're like, oh, I'm out for them, have free of these tonight. Yeah. you know, you hit them with the first beer, you're taking them out. So give a low dose, let people enjoy it a little bit longer. Isn't that what they mostly are? There's 10 milligrams. Default, eight. Hunky Nugs. Yeah, chef Matt, chef Matt, I want 50 or 100,

34:34but I would be social. Yeah, 50 or 100 if you're trying to get loopy, you know, every 50 is gonna, yeah, yeah. There was the dent close to that. The Denver Art Fair was near my house here this last week. And so me, my kiddo went down there. I took a picture of this. This was the actual sign they had out there. 1.5 milligram THC, 5% CBT, no no gas, that's not cool. And so it's 10 at the $9 for 1.5 milligrams. That's weird, man. And there's still no oversight that actually has to like, confirm and guarantee the mounts that they're actually putting on there. They're probably not there could be. What are they really putting in there though? Like, would you be comfortable if you went to like, you know, out to a lounge where you could order THC drinks and they had the basic drink menu, like whatever type of lemonade or mixer you're getting or mocktail. And then at the end, they're like, how many milligrams do you want in there? And you could just request it. They just got like a tap with like, liquid THC.

35:34That'd be so hate. Like, do you want a double? Do you want a triple? Like, and what is that juice they're putting in there? I guess it's all, you know, synthesized from. Is it juice? It's just a juice. It's just a juice. It's the Bizarreau Juice, don't it? It's just a little bit probably, right? It's fresca. Would it just be Crabbo? You know about this shit. Would it be just distillate? I mean, that's the most cost effective. You know, you have your variations. There's the people that do the reintroduced turpines. Does it matter? Do you think you're probably the most edible expert out of all of us or a fish and not? No. Do you think turpines matter? You, I wouldn't have thought so because like, oh, the THC, it transfers into the river. It becomes, but no, your gut lining does absorb the other cannabinoids and the turpines. So it's not as pronounced as consummated through the lungs, but it is there. And I will say I've had lots of different effects. You give me a wild gummy versus a dialed in gummy versus Kyle extra acceller gummies. Right. They do affect me differently. So make me consume food, some make me sleep, some make me talk like this all day. I'm like, yeah, thanks for the weed, buddy.

36:35Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I like that. I get worried about it like that. Somebody tries the THC drink and that's their first experience. They'd say they drink a 10 or 20 milligram. And it's just the distillate juice in there, if you will. And that isn't the right same effect as if you just choked on or even tri-irbed vape, whatever, some flour, again, to overuse the word entourage effect with the different turpines and cannabinoids. I don't believe you get that in distillate. So how do you get this weed a bad name I think in some experiences? I'd say you're probably right. Could you liken that to just alcohol, just the alcohol content, grain alcohol? You remember they used to, like, well, they still do call them the spirits, all of the different like tequila is one wave, odd cause another, the spirits, they're infused with the spirits. And like tequila brings out the angry spirits. Weeds, just like that. We should call it the spirits. I mean, I think Scotty, you might have an analogy there because if you are have, you know, mixing whatever,

37:40ever clear with coolator, some shit, right? Like comparing ever here to a Tai-KHT distillate versus sipping on a glass of mezzed cow that has all these complexities and smoke forever and, you know, definitely different, good analogy. I'll take it. I'll take it. I do want to see a whole, a grambot. Yeah. Can you check, I want to see if Scotty stash was in stock over extract cellar. My through a link here in the chat, if you need it. That's extract cellar. We have extract cellar on tap here. No, I don't think yet. I was the assing. Yeah. No, so a bubble man was in town and a bubble man got tickets on fish was also in town. And when fish comes to town, Denver shuts down. So yeah, so shout out to fish. Skystash got delayed a little bit because fish came into town, big daddy. Yeah. I'm excited for that because it's a, I can't help it. I don't know, some really good wheat. Yeah, I've got to see, I've not really given super,

38:41you know, shit that I would love to smoke. But yeah, well, this is, this is one of those things that we're just talking about with THCA. Get it while it's good that you can get awesome concentrates here from extract cellar Kyle and that's extract CELAR.com, codude on anything, flower, we got the diamond mine, edibles, all types and good stuff going over here. And high quality you can trust. Grambos still live and loves it. You get hooked up with it all the time. And definitely don't forget to use the coupon code, dude, because you get a special little message, Kyle programs it to anytime you put a code in, it gives you a little message in there. But definitely, if I were going to buy anything because since Scotty stash is out of stock, people might ask me for my recommendations. And I say this, the nicotine is still in stock. This is our, the sour candy, bro, it's so good. It is the most legit rosin on really. Yeah, so definitely check out the nicotine. I like the, I like the diamond mine in stock right now, but go nicotine, it's Grambos pick. Are you a rosin or resin,

39:42or a new, Grambos, do you go on with me? Yeah, no, I'm an equal opportunity smoker for sure. Rosin boys don't have me. Ah, man. You know, Gabe from jug zealars changed my whole game because I was like, I know the hard hydrocarbon extraction. And he goes, you know, terpenes are hydrocarbons, right? Oh, I go, hmm, checkmate, sir. Check and check. That's how you know. Wow. Do we, have we looked at memes lately, man? I'm looking at some good ones. Some good ones. Tropics thunder fuck. Here's a meme that everyone knows. Get yourself some no joke while you're still can. The no joke. It'll exist grab yourself some. I just saw he T right now, you know, there's your meme. No way. How do we come up with the artwork? I'm curious, Chad. This, this was a 90s meme. This was a meme from the 90s. I loved it then. And I always wanted it on like a bank card or something. And then I was like, no joke.

40:44Here's my opportunity. Dude, I love it. I've been challenging not that there's anything wrong with the use of AI to create artwork, but seeing if people are using some of their own creative or how would they're coming up with stuff. Looking at a bank card, I would die, man. It'd be the best. So we got the plum or so cow. He's got a recommendation on how to do tacos, who's just skip right to it. Yeah. But those buds that are being decarboxulated are also, you know, what are we doing here? Oh, grandpa, what's your name? Leave it to the liver. Leave it to the liver. I just threw one in Chad here. Can you load that one, Grimbo? I wanna see what's up. I think I just called you Grimbo two a minute ago, it's going on. That's how I feel to that, bro. Is it in our chat or in the format? Oh, the big group chat, the DGC chat. Oh, chat chat. We got somebody chats. Chat chat, chat chat. Nice, better. Beautiful. Look at that, no joke.

41:45What's going on? Damn. That was pretty awesome. Okay. Plum or so cow? We're good ones, man. Scroll day. Did you guys see the tropics under, fuck, man? That's my new strain, bro. Let's see. Oh, yeah. There's a light. I don't know what's going on there. There you go. Plum or so cow? He's gonna click, click mo, click mo. We got, Captain, we need a, I found an artifact, bro. I hate it. Oh my godly, who made that? Oh, Dringo, they, grunts, awesome. That's a nice, come on. We grow, yeah. Get everybody to the wake up powder. Zero chill. Very good, man, very good. Oh, hell yeah. Coffee weed. This is magic. Energy comes out. Who did that? That's a good tattoo. I'd love her so. Yeah, you're on fire. Yeah, he's killed. The, the crops plot.

42:47They, is good. Man, good stuff, brother. He's a rob, he robbed the meme store. You know what? Thank, oh, they're showing some really a brother. That's a classic. That's a classic. So, good to see all you folks, man. How do you come up with that? Is that like ninja turtles? Like, we're going to do a show about turtles that live in the sewer, that like pizza, that become ninjas and they have a rat master. Like, how do you think of this type of shit on drugs? No, it's actually, if you're curious, it's a dare devil is the opposite. Daredevil, they're the footclad, or they're the hand. They had the foot. So it's literally, it's a spoof of the daredevil cartoon. Eastman and layered first published in the making. How do you know the shit grandma should be on jeopardy or something? It's just, grambot. What color originally were all of their bandanas? All four wearing red, baby. Okay. You know, all right, shout out. Oh, that's impressive. Oh, yes.

43:48Technically black and white because the first run of the car, garage comics version one was for black and white. Gifted by their uncle who had recently moved on. Hey, we had a dank note. I just, man, I wouldn't mind just bullshit and looking at some dank nugs. Yeah, chat while I look at some dank nugs, why don't you entertain us with some. Sure, man. Show us a chat and I'll look up some other notes. Hahaha. That's a coughs a lot. Hahaha. Hahaha. That's awesome. I get shit. Mmm. Nugs, they aren't a getting danker these days. What's their cat? What are you doing? What's the, that's the thing. What is happening, man? Yeah, man. Yeah. All right. Oh god. I don't know. I can't get it off of my screen. Right. Oh, okay. We're missing. There we go. Frim she threw it up. We just talked about some, some Northern lights. We're just around here. And I like that. Yeah. Big old chunky cola.

44:49Choggy. And then the Baba. This is a local. I've ever seen his. Oh man. It's not even a real. It's half the battery for. It's about a reaper. The colors in the modern bud. I mean, this is the era of the pinks. It's vibrant. Very vibrant. Oh yeah. The air of the pinks. The pinks. Just over some growth. What's wrong with that? Right here. Dispo. Gringo that grows. Dispo versus homegrown. So since I just finished up my dry, my first grow ever. Nice. Gringo that grows. I got my clones for my local disco. They just so happened to sell clones. I got. Man, we can get into all that. Quarantine that shit. Spray that shit. Scope that shit. So I bought some and I put away for this comparison. The disco weed is not frosty like mine. And seems to be a lot more of a yellow, neon green when compared to my finished plant. When it comes to the Roma and flavor of the disco weed is borderline sentless. Even when ground up. Damn. And flavor was disappointing to say the least. When I saw my finished flower, I was really scared.

45:50I did the wrong. The dry wrong as when it's my dry my cure jars. There's very little smell that once I ground it up, it was pungent. I'm stately funky blueberry smell and taste was almost like it. I'd read. I can tell you. That's awesome. So I can tell you which one of those was machine trimmed. Like that's that's pretty obvious to me, which one was machine trimmed, which one was hand cut. And that's probably why you don't see a lot of the extra trichomes on it. Because they cut off all of the good stuff. Oh, yeah, it's saying to the taste was almost like blueberry muffins. This is the rewards of being a home grower. Congrats on your first grow gringer that grows. And thanks for being a DDC producer, buddy. Help making this show happen. I got to be honest. The first time being a guy that used to have been was responsible for trimming 20 lights at a time. It all come down as the same time. When I saw that as machine trimmer, it's with the first time I was like, Holly, yeah. And they're essential to any commercial operation. I never used one man just because by the time I seen it, you know,

46:51it's pretty much I don't know. I had my and we'll just say somebody and I know I was like, did you used to use a trim machine for a while? Then you went to a trim service. You get people that just in the inner circle, you can trust to come over your grow. And then okay, you're back to the trim machine. He's like, nope, I use this team of three. Like they're really old Vietnamese ladies. They bust it out like crazy. Like just it's like if to watch them trim is like amazing. They just sit there and talk the whole time. They're laughing. They love to get the pay. It's like, all right, holy trim team. But he nothing beats to end trimmer. Long story short, he wouldn't be said the machine just be was beating shit up too much. The market is hard. He hard as this and it's got to look about good. It cares about a market man. It's all about showing it off on realddc.com. We got to live it. Yeah, what's again, it's the air of the pinks. Why? You see my blood's getting purple too, though, man.

47:51I don't know what we have. Maybe it is. Maybe that's the incur of the purple day 65. So congratulations on it almost to the finish line. But I'm ready about day 65 too. I thought it was going to harvest on 6061. And I just got lazy. I got a harvest. I'm just going to harvest it. Here's a nut from a DGC cram. Wow, that's interesting. What is that? That looks like my moussex. Oh, just some, he's new here and I was just sharing some picks. Welcome. Nice. We'll include a, include it, buddy. I knew what to say thanks to all the producers in the chat doing what you do. A couple of quick updates. We do have the AC infinity new ion prime. Six bar up for grabs. Just good. Your producers only tab to enter for that. Me and Scotty just started running those. They seem pretty freaking awesome with the light spread toward my other ion. I on the HLG's I was running. But also we got the word on a customer apt can of troll coming up after that.

48:52I want to give back you guys when I say you make the show happen. You're $10 a month. This is freaking huge. It does keep grandma on the boards when I say that. So we'd help to grow. We had a laugh. You're enjoying today's show. Wolverine sign up, man. It's big, big difference helping sport the show. All right. Well done, sir. It's a lot of pop up. Sorry. Just came across to name. That's awesome, buddy. Still might a pop up. What's up? We have Matt and plan. So again, healthy, bad river Bob. You are pro, man. That's a pro move right there. There's some commercial part right there. Look how tight that is. Not all commercial is contrited equal. You can get some good dang out there. Wow. Yeah. How many plants per square foot or first. You guys do square foot is out there, Rob. I'm curious because they seem pretty tight together. Grandbroke, can you make that bigger again? Yeah. Yeah. That's a great, big top. That can canopy. You just see the different strains like in the rainbow. Yeah. Legit. Legit.

49:52Beautiful. Bad river. Farms. Rob. Well, talking to the. Yeah, hit me up, bad river farms. I need to talk with you. Get some business executive and do somebody. I think I missed an email from you. Um, shes. What's up? Oh, beauty. Bark dog. You can take that one. I think he takes it on walks like a stroller. I don't know. Look at that thing. Awesome. That big. Well, Chad Westport. Want to thank you for hanging out today. Chadwesport.com. Right now. Get them well. They're hot. You can get some no jokes. I'm going to get some. I'm going to get some. I'm going to get some. I'm going to get some. I'm going to get some. I'm going to get some. I'm going to get some. I know. She's not happy now. Get them well. They're hot. You can get some no jokes. There's not a ton of packs there. So, um, no, that's a laugh. Every time I see that.

50:52I couldn't. I'm a crazy. show off your grow grandma in the boards. Peace out. See better in the background. Scotty. Yes. Manor and chillin, man. Manor's chillin. Thinking deeply thinking. Thinking. Oh, thinking. Oh, he's got a nice feeling that something is sick. Come and get all the chairs sink, man. I think we've tried them all at this point. Hey, what can you do, man? Grandma just make her look bigger. I have a mantra. Be good, everybody. Figure easy. Yep. Note to self, I won't, I don't get too high for the high show. Just think I did pretty good. Yeah. OK.