Live from the Arab Media Summit 2026

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1:00How has the United Arab Emirates responded to becoming the headline, have the years events re-jigged the relationship between the state and its media, and or should we all give it up to become influencers? I'm Andrew Miller, a special Arab Media Summit edition of the Monical Daily starts now. Hello and welcome to the Monical Daily coming to you from Monical's studio at the Arab Media Summit in Dubai. I'm Andrew Miller. We'll have reflections on the event from Inza Manrashid and Amelia Hempel and we'll hear from three guests who have had to make sense of and respond to the challenges posed by an extraordinary year in the history of the UAE. Stay tuned all that and more coming up right here on the Monical Daily. This is the Monical Daily. I'm Andrew Miller and I am

2:02joined first of all today by Monical's golf correspondent Inza Manrashid and by Amelia Hempel contributed to Bloomberg and CNN, hello to you both. Hello, Andrew. Inza Manrashid, first of all, we'll start with you because you've visited us at Midori House before. This is Monical descending on your patch. You've spent the year trying to explain the extraordinary events to our listeners as we've gone along. When you reflect back on it, do you think it has changed did you buy in particular in any, in any, by any great sense? Well firstly, it's an absolute delight to have Monical back on the patch which seems to be increasingly so over the last year which, which is great. It's nice to see all your faces and some new ones in Amelia too. But looking at the last seven months, reporting on this conflict, it's been fascinating not just because of the story itself and you know, as journalists love a meaty story and I've been at the very heart of it here in the UAE but actually covering a story of conflict in the UAE where I had

3:08preconceptions about what it would be like to be a journalist here, whether there would be tough restrictions on me, whether I couldn't say particular things, whether I would get lambasted or scolded by the authorities if I was to maybe step out of line a bit. And I found this very kind of delicate dance that you do as a journalist reporting on conflict. But yes, having an open dialogue and communication with the ministries to understand their side of the story and hear their their press conferences and their press releases that they put out. But also getting information on background as as those journalists often do. And also the complete other side of it actually going out on air, reporting and putting stories out there and then getting the feedback from from the community, from different people who actually tune into Monaco Radio or listen to read the newsletter or read our stories in the magazine and actually getting a very positive response about how stories are told. And I think that's what I found really interesting is actually

4:13being a journalist in the middle of a conflict but navigating the difficulties that a place like the UAE has for journalists and for media organisations here. Amelia, I will throw to you the difficult subject of trying to explain this extraordinary event we're standing in the middle of two people we can't show pictures of it to how would you even begin to go about describing the setting. Not just this lovely little gilded box we are broadcasting from but it is a very smart little box. It is but this enormous neon-spangled hanger situated in. It's definitely very glamorous, isn't it? A very glamorous media summit for sure. And as you were saying we're under our own special little palm trees here. There are ice to match a latte is being handed out a white carpet which has stayed miraculously clean. We were so waiting for someone to drop something on it. I did see your pomegranate from a taboole salad had fallen on the floor. Did someone swiftly care? Did a wave were simply. Pomegranate on a white carpet you haven't got time to wait around for that.

5:13No, no, no, but it's very well done. There are large exhibitions and the various different stages have an interesting translation system where you can listen to the talks in Arabic and English, whatever you want and move around. The access here is incredible I've always been very impressed by that. You've got members of the ruling family swishing through with their entourage but everyone seems very accessible. You've got some really high profile guests and speakers who are very high profile but also seem quite low-key and approachable. So that's been impressive and then of course the influences with their own come with their own audience. They do and their own cameras. What I found really interesting is that door stepping is actually illegal here in the UAE. I don't know if it's actually illegal but it is very frowned upon in something that you should not be doing. It's ill-advised. It's ill-advised. Exactly. You can't go and doorstep a minister or whatever. What I found here though at the Arab media summit, as Amelia myself and our deputy head

6:14of radio Tom who's producing for us here, I've found is that you can actually just walk up to a lot of the delegates, many of them diplomats and very senior members of government and actually grab them by the arm, show them the goal and the radio booth and just drag them over here to have a discussion with us. I quite like that openness. It's not exactly door stepping and getting an answer from them there but it's a way of kind of just stopping them in their tracks and bringing them over for a chat and many of them are happy to. Indeed. It is very hard, Amelia, to understate the allure of our little pop-up studio. We have had various points over the last couple of days. People who we weren't even interviewing coming in here because they want their pictures taken in it. We have had people clearly, it is something to which people aspire, pretending to be presenters on Monaco Radio and getting their pictures taken doing it. We should actually have been charging like five bucks a go or something. We should also, we have tried and failed to get into the AI photo booth which has opposite us which is like some kind of nightclub

7:14with a velvet rope which has been absolutely packed all day. People going into their pictures taken and you can be on the front of your own Arabic magazine newspaper, get your photos taken from the summit. I mean the queue is dwindling if we get this wrapped pretty shortly. There could still be time today. We should talk about some of what we have been seeing and recording. Obviously loads of this will be rolled out across upcoming Monaco Radio programming across our website, now newsletters etc. But we're at the end of day two of three. Inzi, is there one clear highlight for you yet? Look I think a lot of the diplomatic conversations that have been taking place and as I walk around the whole summit here, you see coming off the main stage, a lot of their excellencies, these politicians who are very senior in governments, they come away and then they they kind of take a purge on the side, the benches or some of the green rooms and you see them having meetings with maybe members from the UAE government or two different government meetings. I think

8:17we saw the Lebanese government and the Azerbaijan government member meeting and having a conversation as they walked past each other. Because this has ballooned well beyond just being a beard scratching and exercise for the media. This is taking on aspects of something like a globe-seq or a Munich security conference. Yeah, it isn't just a back slapping for media whatsoever. And yes, you've got so much media on display from some of the Arab news titles and the Arab TV stations and then the other sense of media where they're looking at film and entertainment as well. But this is a lot more than that and there are some serious foreign affairs diplomatic geopolitical conversations taking place in this room and you'd expect that as well given the time and situation that the UAE is currently in, there is still a war very much ongoing. There were also conversations about whether the summit would go ahead. Thankfully it has done because I think it's been a roaring success two days in and so I think it all falls back on a very important backdrop and so

9:21that's why those discussions have been taking place too. And the conversations on the panels have been really interesting as well because people haven't been shying away from difficult topics. I've been really grappling with the problems of media, the challenges. How do we integrate AI into into news coverage now? How can journalists be retrained? How can young audiences be engaged in meaningful ways? And a lot of interesting solutions have come out of it, a lot of discussions of tech. They've been really, really interesting, interesting conversations. I think Andrew, what we found as well from kind of speaking to people here as well is the important role that the media plays at a time of conflict, right? Trust is hugely important in the media sphere at the minute all around the world. But when you're at the heart of a conflict, you know, trusting going back to the kind of traditional TV storytellers, picking up a newspaper, going to the Arab daily, whatever country it may be, is important for many people, for many of the old-timers who've

10:25watched news for a long time and tune in for that specific time to get their news updates. But then we've seen the other end of the spectrum as well. And we've seen influencers from all corners of the Arab world come here, social media stars as well, who have also been telling the news in their own way for their own particular audience. And I think it's been really interesting to see that kind of a cross-section of traditional news media and this kind of new version of new storytelling, which I've also found myself getting into. Whilst yes, I'm a traditional journalist. I've also felt during this conflict, I've had to jump on social media, hang myself over the edge of my balcony and film a social media clip that will then get shared across Instagram and other social media platforms. That's just the way that people out here in particular are consuming news nowadays. Is that ongoing challenge, isn't it, though, of entertainment and information, sort of the lines becoming more and more blurred and how do you maintain credibility as a journalist,

11:29as a big news organisation, when there is such a fight for people's attention in the media space? Well, all this and more is discussed by our guests across the rest of the show. We will have more from InzaMam and Amelia tomorrow for the moment. Thank you very much. Thank you. You're listening to a special edition of The Monaco Daily from the Arab Media Summit in Dubai. There has probably not been an exactly dull moment to be in the UAE since the state was founded in 1971.

12:30That was also the year that work began on the first paved highway between Dubai and Abu Dhabi. That same country is now a global top 30 economy. This year, however, has been exactly the kind of interesting that the UAE has striven to avoid, as the UAE and its Gulf neighbours were targeted by Iran in retaliation for the joint US Israeli actions launched against the Islamic Republic in February. Though the worst is hopefully over, the UAE still faces a radically reshaped geostrategic reality, an at best semi-closed, straight-of-hor news, and uncertainty about the intentions of allies and adversaries. Mardi Jassim Gouloum is a junior fellow at the Observer Research Foundation think tank. We were joined by Monaco's Gulf correspondent in Zaman Rashid, in Zibaghan by asking where and if the Gulf states see an out from the present in pass. One of the main developments that happened over the past few days was the indefinite postponement of the meeting that was supposed to be happening in Salallah between Iran and the

13:32Gulf states and reportedly even Europe was to be included. Bahrain, of course, publicly withdrew from that meeting ahead of the official postponement by Oman. And I think that was a very important development in that it really illustrated the lack of consensus about one meeting even with Iran on a diplomatic level for Bahrain that was the sticking point in light of the recent aggressions by Iran and light of the fact there's no bilateral diplomatic relations between the two countries. Of course, there's no consensus on that diplomatic outreach to Iran amongst the Gulf and Bahrain is an illustrative point to that. The second is I think the devil in the details of what was going to emerge from this arrangement on the straight-of-hor news. I think there's remains to be consensus on whether or not even voluntary fees are acceptable in the Gulf towards the straight-of-hermins and whether or not the existence of some form of authority, Persian Gulf authority in the straight-of-hermins is to be deemed acceptable. So I think we're in a stage of some scrambling really to try and get a sense of agreement towards what should happen

14:37on the straight, how to move forward from the lack of a non-aggression commitment up to this point by Iran with the continuation of attacks through proxies, on Saudi Arabia, through Iraq, through Yemen's Houthis. So I think there are many outstanding files that don't promise a positive outlet just yet. But is that scrambling you're talking about? Is that an expression of a concern perhaps that what we do now see is likely to be a permanent condition that the straight-of-hermins will possibly never again be a free waterway in the way that we had grown used to it? I think it's a matter of trying to, on the part of the Gulf, is trying to strategize such that that doesn't happen is what will it take to make sure that this chalk that Iran is trying to hold on Gulf economies by blocking the straight-of-hermins doesn't work out in their favor and does that mean hoping that the economic buffers that there are in place in the Gulf would stand the crisis. So

15:40whether it's the sovereign wealth funds, whether it's the reserves, whether it's other alternative routes that these really provide a buffer that the Gulf economies can withstand, this chalk that Iran is putting on their economies and able to play the game of time and hope that a better arrangement can come than something that's in favor of Iran's priorities. Matti, when it comes to diplomacy though, we knew that this meeting was supposed to go ahead yesterday between the Gulf states and Iran as you mentioned. What sign does that give us though? Are the Gulf states kind of now fed up of waiting around for a deal between Iran and the US to come, which feels like it's not coming and so are taking diplomacy matters into their own hand because they simply can't wait around and bear the brunt of this war anymore. Is that the sign that we're seeing? And also of course the UAE leadership in India shaking hands with the leadership of Iran as well and saying let's put all the matters behind us. Does it show that the Gulf states

16:44are pursuing their own diplomatic routes now? I think individual dot countries, including the UAE, are pursuing some form of diplomatic outreach to Iran or accepting Iran's diplomatic outreach to them more I think that's a more accurate description. And I think that's also what the rest of the Gulf is looking for is looking for seriousness on the part of Iran to make diplomatic outreach towards them. You know the fact that there's no bilateral diplomatic relations between Iran and Bahrain for nearly a decade that was the main hindrance that led to Bahrain's public withdrawal from the meeting yesterday. And I think what Bahrain is looking for what other countries in the Gulf are looking for is signs of goodwill from Iran and that those signs are quite scarce. Yes the rate of attacks has really slowed down yes the aggression has seems to be mostly focused on Saudi Arabia at the moment but there is a commitment on the part of the Gulf to say well an attack on one Gulf country is an attack on Iran. But do the Gulf

17:44states have any options beyond waiting for that outreach of goodwill from Iran that you were talking about do they I mean obviously Iran is a much larger country but do the Gulf states have any leverage in this relationship? Look I think the strength of the Gulf countries comes when they block in together as a GCC and I think that's that's what I think they're strategizing to make sure emerges as a stronger block to be kind of on an equal size footing let's say with Iran but then of course there is the other element which is you know the US is their strong relationship with the United States and I think whatever diplomatic outreach happens on the part of the Gulf towards Iran or the vice versa whatever agreement that does emerge will need to be kind of in coordination with the United States because in the end no one leaves this a US war it's an American war that started here but the US is still seen as an indispensable ally that proves to be a

18:49deterrent towards Iran in normal circumstances. But just finally and on that thought because I'm sure this has occurred to the Gulf states in the same way that it has occurred certainly to Europe's European states in the last couple of years are they really still betting that heavily on the United States because Europe isn't anymore? Look I think there was an analyst that really said something that really stuck with me is that we cannot judge the deterrent strategy of the efficacy of the US deterrence in the Gulf based on the current circumstances we have to look at it from a historical perspective more often than not the US has been a successful deterrent towards enemies of the Gulf including Iran and these circumstances it was a US war that was started in the region and Iran retaliated by attacking the US allies here in the Gulf and these aren't normal circumstances that we can judge the normal deterrence success metric of American power and their friendship of the Gulf. I think there's still an element of betting on the US but there's also an element of

19:53trying to make sure that there are better collective defense strategies here within the Gulf as a group that there are early detection mechanisms for attacks that there is coordination on warning systems that there is a tracking of attacks that eventually there are going to be established military unity when it comes to establishing deterrence in the case of attacks from Iran and I think that's what the vision is for the GCC at the moment of course like I said in the beginning there isn't much consensus that's emerging in the Gulf but that will take some time and I think that seems to be the only direction that that makes logical sense for the Gulf states. That was Madi Jassim Gulum, Jr. Fellow at the Observer Research Foundation. This is a special edition of the Daily from the Arab Media Summit in Dubai with me Andrew Muller. It may seem somewhat counterintuitive that a media summit is being held at all in the United Arab Emirates which is not a bastion of press freedom. There are hard and fast rules on who and what may or may not

20:58be criticized and this year in particular authorities clamp down on reporting on social media and in traditional media of the conflict with Iran. The application of these rules is the responsibility of the UAE Media Council under which serves the Dubai Media Council and its director of media governance is Omar Bouti also a television presenter and filmmaker. I began by asking Omar what his day job actually entails. Well, it involves a lot and I understand the bristling. I will say first and foremost one of our main sort of tasks at Dubai Media Council beyond growing the industry and finding new opportunities for people in the film, gaming, publishing, music or otherwise is to make things easier. That's definitely our main direction. So to reduce regulation, to improve policies, to make it easier to do business, to essentially make hopefully have a lighter touch if you will in terms of the government role when it comes to the media sector. But my day to day is going through the way that first and foremost actually how the public sector is structured,

22:01how all of our entities here in Dubai are involved and interact when it comes to media. So that's everyone from our Department of Economy and Tourism to our Department of Culture, to our future foundations of every element of government that has a role to play in Dubai Chamber etc. in the media sector and making sure that we are A, have the best policies in place for each of those entities that there's no replication of effort, there's no conflict, and that essentially if we're talking about strategy and direction and vision for Dubai, it's a unified one that everyone is part of and everyone's doing their part. I mean, has this been all especially challenging given the obvious over the last seven or eight months or so? Because obviously you have a story which not just local media but the world's media wants to report and it's not always possible to do that from here in the way that it might be in many other cities. I mean look, I think for my part, I'm less involved in the day to day in

23:03that. We do have the council, we have the government Dubai media office who are instrumental, certainly continue to be but certainly during the height of the crisis in the war, giving daily updates of trying to keep people here in the region informed, of doing outreach and connecting international journalists with people here based in the UAE and based in Dubai to share their stories. But look, it's certainly a challenge. I can speak from our part most recently when we've been talking to people about coming and doing business here. For people who are already based in the UAE, I think we've kind of realized we're sort of back to as much as you can be given the situation, business as usual. You know, roads are busy, schools are back, businesses are full, events are kicking off like this at the Arab media summit. But for getting people to come from outside, there's still very much perception that things are not stable and you know, let's be realistic. They're not. Certainly when it comes to film production, there's insurance concerns, we're talking to gaming companies about potentially setting up satellite offices. These conversations have slowed down a little more than perhaps we'd like. But I do believe that we're

24:03in a really good position as Dubai, both from the comes to the council, but just generally speaking, that once things are finally settled, we'll be able to kick things off the next day. Like everything's in place. Things are working as they should. Strategies are put in place to make sure that we bounce back immediately. Well, what kind of conversations we're ongoing during the crisis though about what media were and were not going to be able to report? Obviously, this question is asked with all due acknowledgement that most countries in a state of conflict do impose some restrictions on media, whether journalists such as myself like them or agree with them or indeed obey them or not. But what were those conversations like? Because obviously intense curiosity from around the world, obviously, and I'm sure from within the United Arab Emirates as well. Look, I can only speak to serve my role. I wasn't involved in the specific day-to-day decisions. Those were above my pay grade on a federal level and his federal councils did that. What I can say is in terms of what filtered down to us, the driving sort of rationale

25:04or direction was around public safety. So there was desire to make sure that the public was informed when there was anything that was potentially dangerous or harmful occurring around them. There was a sense that anything that was sort of shared or covered would not incite panic. And part of that was taking down a lot of fake news. During the height of the conflict, there were hundreds of videos that were being disseminated whether intentionally or not, which were not correct. There were images that were being shared of attacks that didn't happen. I think like anybody on social media, I saw plenty of... Sure. So I think the real direction that I heard or interacted with myself was very much to make sure that the news that is out there is verified, is correct, and is helping people make the best decisions for their safety. Just as a final thought, then, I'm just trying to get a handle, as I'm sure many of our listeners are on what the ideal media environment you're trying to construct here is, because obviously we are speaking at the Arab media summit. It's not

26:04clearly not like your entirely hostile to the idea of a media, but it's not entirely, I think, the relative free for all that Europeans, Americans, and most Western countries would be accustomed to. So if it's not that, what actually is it? That's a fair question. I think, in general, Dubai, certainly, I'm going to speak for the Dubai media council, but the UAE at large, is very encouraging of the idea of media as an overall concept of umbrella. A lot of that's about people telling their own individual stories. Because obviously we have journalism, so I was a piece, and I think we're kind of talking a bit around journalism that's definitely crucial. But a lot of what we're doing right now, and I can say about direction, is the idea of both empowering the 200 plus nationalities that live here to tell unique stories that either reflect their background, their history, their origins, or their experience here in Dubai. So not limited to Emirates, but to anyone, really, and to be able to tell that in the best possible way, in a way that would also reach a global audience. Our real push right now is to say that if you are

27:09someone who has a story to tell, has an idea, whether it be in the gaming space, in the film space, or otherwise, and you'd like to be able to create that, that we need to put in place both financing mechanisms, regulations or ease regulations to make it as easy for you as possible. And that we really want those types of stories being created from here and going global. As a counterbalance to what typically has happened, indeed, how I grew up, where primarily you consume international media. So you see a lot of media, a lot of people telling their version of your story from outside the country without that personal experience. And we think it's important to have a strong media here that can counterbalance that. That was Omar Bhutti, Dubai media counsel's director of media governance. You're listening to a special edition of the Monaco Daily at the Arab Media Summit in Dubai. Finally on today's show, Iran's attack on the UAE earlier this year was mostly reported and therefore mostly understood as a campaign of airstrikes, drones, and missiles. It was also

28:09literally and metaphorically under the radar, a cyber war. And the first real test of the UAE's cyber defense capacities, these are overseen by Dr. Mohammed Al-Qawaiti, head of cyber security for the UAE government, and began by asking whether they had anticipated a cyber aspect to any potential conflict with Iran. We are the only nation who faced the cyber warfare from all different type of diversified attacks in a kinetic as well as in a cyber warfare. Whenever you hear all of those drones happening here and there or ballistic missiles coming into those critical infrastructures, energy sectors, aviation sectors, healthcare sectors, you name it. There was a whole cyber warfare at the same time, impacting and trying to actually increase or add into that impact of a kinetic type of attack. And we've been able, have a lot to detect, to deter, to protect, and to respond to many of those attacks. So just to be clear what you're saying there, are we now

29:12living in a world where there is a cyber warfare aspect to any kinetic attack as well? Definitely. We've been seeing this even, not only in UAE, if you saw Russia with Ukraine, if you saw Estonia a long time ago, if you saw as well what we've seen actually Israel and Palestine or Gaza during that time. There was always a cyber warfare and it is not only the Syob's we're talking about, not only the deep information or the misinformation or the disinformation happening in the social media. No, no, there was a whole attacks happening towards a critical infrastructure trying to leak data, spy collect data, or find any vulnerabilities to be exebloated to actually take down, to paralyze or to destruct in any ways possible. He says what we've seen, this is what the Khemullah we already been as a matter of fact collaborating with the great partners to respond to those attacks. I mean, you mentioned the conflict between Ukraine and Russia, which I know a

30:15lot of people from all around the world have been paying attention to as sort of a foreshadowing of what the next generation of warfare might be like. Had the UAE been doing that as well, I mean, with their specific lessons you'd absorbed from that conflict about, here's what we should do if the same thing happens to us. So many of those have been put into practice, into a cyber, drills or a cyber national type of exercises and we've been doing this for the past at least two, three years as a matter of fact, where every sector been tested, every scenario that we think of AI versus human, AI versus AI, or even machine versus again critical infrastructures. We've been doing those scenarios in the past two years and as a matter of fact, we run the largest cyber security drill here in UAE in Dubai, specifically, where we had more than 133 nations coming all together to really have one cause and one cause only to protect from any cyber attacks.

31:17Imagine machinery versus human, they all, the Hendela gathered together to protect from such attacks. We had that last year and we will be having another one this week as a matter of fact in Dysek. It's a big type of exercise and yes, there are so many nations to raise the awareness, to build up the strength, to build up this partnership and connectivity with all of those needed partners, definitely. I mean, question you're probably not going to answer but I will ask anyway, during the conflict, did anything surprise you about what Iran threw at the UAE in terms of cyber warfare capability? Was there anything that made you think, well okay, we didn't see that coming? Well actually, if I really specify on one thing is the, is the type of attack we never expected from that adversary. We expected to do a data leak. We expected to spy on information. We expected to theft or scam or get any of those data but we did not expect someone will attack

32:22our power grid and try to disrupt and destroy that or even attack our data base of all digitized information that we have and to delete all of this data so that no traces, no data could be really come and brought together again. That destruction, that's destroying. We definitely thought of, we planned for but we didn't know that or didn't expect that this will happen in that short term when the conflict happened. That's what really we realized on. We learned from, we prepared for and that's why we are in the law becoming and emerging more power for as we go. What specifically can you learn from that? How do you protect against a repetition of that? So first of all, there are three layers in this. To protect our critical infrastructures. We have changed many of the governings and policies and the compliance so those entities need to be ready. When they get similar attack, there is an AI that actually detect the pattern of such

33:26attacks and proactively detected and destroyed or denied in that perspective. That's from one perspective, from the second perspective partnership. Many of these technologies are owned by third parties, by private sectors and this is exactly where we saw the solidarity. Those private sectors have come forward, have really shown us many of the indicator of compromises, patterns of attacks, things that they've been seeing in their cloud and they've been sharing these indicator of compromise to us to really send the good for everybody. With that's exactly what we actually really learned from and the most important thing is the community. I'm sure you've heard that here in UAE, we have changed the curriculum to add more into the cyber security, to add more into the AI and this curriculum goes even to the KG1, KG2 all the way to board members. So this have taught us that technology is an integral part of everything that we do of our lifestyle

34:27and we need to be really ready to use it in a positive way. Yes, there is a negative way and we'll prepare for that in that hours. Well, just as a final thought because I am one of those bewildered citizens presently seeking reassurance. I'm speaking to you, a cyber security expert in a week in which we are hearing from the senior most tech barons of the biggest tech companies that actually you know what this might destroy us all. How pessimistic are you about that? I am very optimistic as a matter of fact, technology will add great value to us all. Technology have saved life. In AI and using that in medical field have really changed so many things there. In AI, using that for the people of determinations or for the educations and really sphere educating this younger generation, we saw many of those things. Yes, there is a great part of technology that could really impact us, if we did not take the right guardrails, the right guidance, the right policy on, but I don't think

35:30that will be as big as the 99% or 95% of all the good things that we see. Technology as many of those things that have been created across all of our history has good part, has part part, if we know and really by the end of the day is designed by people. It's designed by those of you who actually really, some of them could be even, some of them, most of them, using for good, use it for good and that's the message we're sending here from UAE. We are using this technology for the best of humanity, that would add greater value to us all. That was Dr. Mohamed AlQaeda, head of cybersecurity for the UAE government and that's all for this edition of the Monaco Daily. Thanks to our panelists today in Zaman RaShid and Amelia Hempel. Today's show was produced by Tom Webb, our sound engineer was Steph Trungu in Dubai and Elliot Greenfield in London. I'm Andrew Muller here in Dubai. The Daily is back at the same time tomorrow again from the Arab media summit. Thanks for listening.