Listen Bitch! Blink of an Eye

0:00This BBC podcast is supported by ads outside the UK. The following episode contains strong language adot themes as some singing and many many songs with the word stars in them.

1:00I would like to welcome everyone to Listen Bitch. The theme today is astronomy. Queue twinkling sound. Queue twinkling sound. Queue twinkling sound. Queue twinkling sound. The science that deals with celestial objects space in the physical universe as a whole. No problemo. I just suddenly felt like I was in a test and then I went and grabbed this book from my sitting room and I realised it's just about the moon.

2:06Isn't it beautiful though? Isn't it nice to have a big book in Listen Bitch? Yeah. Isn't that nice? Luna. But today's not just about the moon. It's about everything. Everything around us. Let's have our first question for today's Listen Bitch. The theme is astronomy. Hello Keats and Jordan. Craig here, originally from Liverpool but live in London. Massive fan of the show. It has me chuckling quite a lot but I love the heart and soul that you guys bring. So astronomy. I'm not a massive studia of science and stars and stuff but the one thing that I love to do when we have a clear night here in the UK is to look up at stars. I mean I'm sure everyone does but for me when your head is full of drama life feels dramatic and heavy to look up at the stars all that just dissipates. I have a feeling of like feeling so small and insignificant and I know that's quite overwhelming for some people to sort of think about but it makes me feel like why am I here?

3:09And why have I created all this drama when the stars are just there shining? Do you have any connection or relationship with the stars? Does it help your day to day? Does it help you get through some stuff knowing that something bigger is at play in the way? I'd love to hear your thoughts. Take care guys. You were worried about the questions for this. Craig has just dropped in casual philosopher. Scouse wizard. Yeah, that was beautiful. Coming in there just like oh by the way I don't do much science but then delivers the most profound beautiful sentiment. Really quite profound. I'm actually good to just end this and bitch there. Yeah, I'm done. I don't really see the point that came further than do I look up to the sky and feel insignificant in the way that makes me feel profoundly peaceful? Yes, I had that in Copenhagen in Thailand. It's changed my life. Wow. It was a clear night. It's the sound of the waves like oh man, I just.

4:14They call it awe. Yeah. A W E I think all means to feel all at once very small and very big at the same time. For my ninth birthday when I was I think I was nine I was nine. Yeah, my mom has these two French called Stephen and Carl. And for a period of time they were living in Konamara in Ireland. We went out there to see them and they lived in this house like literally in a middle of nowhere. And I was living in these than at the time. So it was like city boy. We went out to the Irish countryside. Wow. And they had this gorgeous place maybe a mile from a post office. You know, I mean that kind of vibe. Patrick and Carl drove me out to the middle of nowhere. No street lights, no nothing. For my birthday and got me to stand up the car and I've never ever seen so many stars in the sky and I became infatuated at that age. And then they gave me a book of constellations as the second part of my present and I've always from that point when I can see stars in the sky. I feel really calm. So I actually completely understand what it is that Craig's talking about because it's just profound.

5:19And I even knew like the different magnuses of the stars like the brightness how far away that meant they were like it was just right. So in this land of astronomy, you felt like you were more learning about the kind of physical nature of stars. Yeah, so in the book you had everything you had the constellations which are fascinating because they've been named because of historical things. So it goes into Greek mythology and everything. Some of them do, yeah. Beautiful. Yeah, play these Cassiopeia. Then you have like Orion's Bell. Orion's Bell is the one that's the most noticeable. Beetlejuice, of course. If you look up in the sky for the stars, you very often can see Orion's Bell. I don't know why that fucking bell's so problematic. But you're always like, oh look, we can see some constellations in its Orion's Bell. Because they'll be particularly bright. They're intense. But then obviously the wild thing about stars is that they might have already died. What? Like the time it takes for the light to travel to the earth. Wait, hold on, let me get this right. Let's get this right because this is interesting.

6:19Sorry, it's good that we look this up. It's a myth that the stars are dead. However, what I'm getting confused with is because of the time it takes for light to travel, the version of the star that we're seeing isn't reflective of where the star is currently at. Okay. Okay. Because light takes time to travel we see nearby stars as they were years ago and distance ones as they were thousands of years ago. However, since stars live for millions or billions of years a few thousand years, it's just a blink of an eye. Yeah. Yeah, it's wild, right? Oh, yeah. It's like, what is time? What is it? Yeah. Okay. All right. Anyway, sorry. I got really into the different magnitudes and what that meant. Oh, thank you, my love. Thank you, sir. Oh. Oh. James, just had Donna show up early to getting glam for promo and she still makes you tea. No, she was making herself a cup of tea first. Thank you very much. I don't care. Excuse me. I offered you one.

7:19I know you did. I'm just... She made it out like I was waiting on you. Yeah. No, no, wait on you. Just the love between you two is lovely. She says the love between us two is lovely. Oh. That's what I was saying, JD. Thanks, Keith. She did. I'm a bit rough at everything. You don't look rough, man. But get ready and you look like a pop star again. Are you wearing that hat? Don't piss me. No, I'm not wearing that hat. No, I'm joking you as you can. No, I'm just being cooler than your hat. All right. Can you just ask Jake one question? What's her favourite constellation? Jade, what's your favourite constellation? Orion. Orion. Yeah, Orion. Because our next vector, mainly Anne got put in a different girl band first with a different member. And we called ourselves Orion because we were three stars. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. So that one almost felt special to me. Who was the third star? She didn't make it. But she was so lovely. I still think about her. I actually don't know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's the world. I don't know. She doesn't want anyone to know that. Because someone that's really famous out there, that was also an expert that doesn't want anyone to know. Crazy. What, and is it success now? Oh, yeah. That's crazy.

8:19No, no. Oh, shit. Oh, shit. And I was friends with, I've been friends with for like 15 years and she told me like 10 years in, like. What, so she was, how can you secretly be on X-Factor? Anyway, this is a different kind of star that we're talking about. But do you know about the people who quickly keeps, do you feel that way, though? I mean, that's what I'm thinking. What Craig was asking is, do you have an equivalent? He feels at peace with the insignificance of his size in compassion to the universe. Yeah. You seem to be almost tripped by that. What's your equivalent of that? It's like where you are. You're in Toronto, right? Yeah. I went there to visit my family when I was 10. And we went to Niagara Falls. And it scared me in a way I've never really been able to explain. And I think it was its size. Yeah. And there's something about when things are bigger than I can comprehend. Yeah. It makes me feel a bit like shaky on the ground. It makes me feel like I might fall down. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It just makes me feel like I can't. I feel like it's called vertigo. Yeah, I do get vertigo. I do get vertigo. If I fly a kite on top of a hill and fuck, I'll fall down.

9:21Because I just get like the world isn't flat. I don't know. Yeah, yeah. Too much. But just with stars, I just wanted to say one of my favourite songs. Disney song. It's called Play. Disney song. It's called Play. Look at the stars. Look at the stars. Look at the stars. That is a good song. Bang, I may. The early cold play. Don't say shit to me. I'll fight. I'll literally fight anyone, bro. Parachutes. One of the best ever. I've already said this on mismini. Why don't we do a different song that talks about the universe or stars or the planets? Craig, you get yellow cold play. Okay, let's have another question. School is in session. Hey guys, this is Liz. I'm calling in from Des Moines, Iowa. I have a little house in the Midwest. Long time fan of the pod. I haven't met this single episode. Love you guys. And this week's topic is astronomy, right? So I was just talking to my husband this morning about stars.

10:21He was saying, isn't it amazing that we live so close to a star that it just warms up our whole lives? And it lights up our atmosphere and it makes everything glow on half of the side of the planet. So I guess I'm wondering if you guys often think about our son as a star? Oh, okay. God, all the way from Iowa. Wow. She's spitting facts like it's wild. Tell me why you agree with this lady. Well, the concept is legit. Like there is a big, huge star in our universe. I guess it's our solar system. That's right. That warms the earth. I was just thinking about being in the sun because the sun came out at the end of last week. Wow. Just about an hour. Yeah. It's just like, I know I've been on holiday so I can't say shit. But like God, it was nice to just feel the London sun and it was warm on my face. And I just let myself stand in it for like 10 minutes.

11:21And I was like, it feeds you. It really does. It's powerful stuff, man. I mean, the moon too, which is obviously reflecting the sun anyway, but yeah, it's amazing. So any incredible, we should be incredibly grateful for the sun. We're with you. Liz from Iowa. Thank you for being so far away from both myself and actually not too far from Jordan. And being somebody who listens to Miss Me. I love that. It's really cool. Your song, Liz, is when you wish upon a star sung beautifully by Jeperto in Pinocchio. And that is one of my favorite star songs. Wish upon a star. When you wish upon a star. It's such a beautiful sentiment. In a wish upon a star. No, no. That's a great star song, but you should save it for the next one. Isn't that what you, the one you just said? No. Oh. That's Rose Royce. This is as a Jeperto in Pinocchio. Get Jay back for fuck's sake. It's a Disney. Shine bright like a diamond. No.

12:21That doesn't come to this astronomy school session. This song I'm talking about is when you wish upon a star. Makes no difference. Who you are. Okay. I thought that was pretty obvious. Isn't it funny that that's how we measure like merit in keeping with your fascination with awards? Yes. Isn't that odd? That's what we call people who are doing well stars. Shining bright. Shining bright. Absolutely. So Liz, I hope we answered your question. And I hope you like your song. This is fun. Thank you, Nat, it won the Oscar for fuck's sake. It won best. Who is Oscar? Oh, okay. Let's not go there. Best original song in 1949. Did you say that? Jesus Christ. Pinocchio came out in 1940. Yeah. Are you joking? Is it? Yeah, yeah. All right, let's have another question and another song. Hi, my loves. I wondered if you think there's a danger to knowing too much about astronomy.

13:24So my dad is retired and he's been teaching me about the stars and the moon. And it's a really nice way for us to connect with each other. But sometimes I don't want to understand it. I just want to be in awe of it. Mmm. Mmm. Mmm. I hear you. I hear you. And the great thing about astronomy, when you're talking about the universe, we can never really know everything. There's just no way. I mean, I've had to deal with this recently, just realizing that I'm not ever going to learn everything in the world. And I apply that to this as well. Like, I'm not going to learn everything there is to know about astronomy before I die. And there will be things learned about astronomy after I die. And we have to make kind of peace with that. And I think that allows you to live in the magic of it and the knowledge of it. Because like the ship we know, there is so much stuff going on that we just don't know. We're just all so really scary. I think it's important to learn as much as you can, but leave 20% for magic as the great say. I just, I can't imagine that you would be able to feel a less wonder the more you learn.

14:26Like, have you ever heard someone say that like the bottom of this ocean and the sky are the same thing? But you just, but it's just there's no way of expecting it. That's interesting. Because aren't you doing a children's book about the bottom of the ocean? I did that. It's out. Yeah, I came out last year. Oh, I thought that was the one you were working on. So how did you do the research for the bottom of the ocean? It was based off of, well, the principle was that like I think it's fascinating that we know arguably more about Mars than we do about the bottom of the ocean. We've have touched the bottom of the ocean, but there's loads of the bottom of the ocean that we have unexplored. And in my head, it's like, you know, imagine if you went so far into the bottom of the ocean that you just came out in space. Like it's the same thing. So amazing. Would you go to space? Yeah. Would you want to go to space? Of course. I don't think I would. Lower, lower. Yeah. Have you ever seen a video of William Shatner went to space with Jeff Bezos? No. It's really depressing. William Shatner went to space and had like an actual existential crisis.

15:29Captain Kirk. Yeah. Oh, no, that's awful. It's not awful. He came back and now he's an environmentalist. Oh, I thought you meant like he couldn't handle real space after pretending to be a captain that could like the rule space. He went out to space and was like, what the fuck, man? Like we've got this tiny planet. What are we doing? And then he tried to say it to Jeff Bezos. And Jeff Bezos, there was like, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then just like popped the bottle of champagne. Obviously. Jeff Bezos was like, what? Over his head. He was like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Woo space, bro. Fucking. Okay. Would I want to go to space? Sorry. No, I wouldn't, but also what I really can't believe it. Why not? Sorry. Too much black for me. I can't deal with how much black is up there. Like there's too much black hole energy up in space. Like it just, I find it's so overwhelming the idea of it. I wouldn't want to be up there. No. Can I just say, as two people who obviously love the stars and the planets and everything around us, I don't have a telescope. Do you? No. But I have been around people who have telescopes.

16:30Me too. I would get a telescope. My friend, yeah, who I made all the OG Rizzle Kicks videos. He's called Toby Lockaby, right? We did all our first Rizzle Kicks videos together. He was a wedding photographer. I met him at my friend's house. Back in those days, having like shallow depth of field was like a game changer. So like he had a Canon 5D. And I was like, can we do a music video? We made this music video for Trump. We got signed. Like it was all part of this huge thing. And then we did all these videos together. And it cost nothing. And it was like a massive part of why I'm here on the podcast, right? Right. He since then has begun a channel, right, called Epic Space Man online. Yeah. It is one of the most incredible things I've ever witnessed. The director of my favorite film of one of my favorite films of all time, Lahain. DMed him like, dude, we have to do something. What does he do on this space thing? He's basically doing what we're trying to do. But he's studied like as his hobby. He studied astronomy for years and years. He creates like these animations that take him like 9, 10, 11 months.

17:31Wow. Wow. He like puts an animated version of himself into like an astronaut suit. And he explains the scale of like humans or the earth in comparison to the universe. Wow. It blew me away because obviously I always knew he had a good eye for this stuff. But like, wow. Do you remember that guy that was on TV when we were kids that was like, had like a monocle, Patrick Moore? Yeah, that rings Bowers. And he was like, the stars guy when we were a kid. He was like, the stars guy. That's like, all he did, right? He talked about astronomy on television. Yeah, I guess so. He hosted the, uh, the Sky at Night, which is still on TV. But now it's Maggie Adder in Pocoque. Who's fantastic. I'm so happy that shows still on Tele because he was a while ago. But he was great. He was excellent. I guess our version of it now is Brian Cox. Who's fine? Brian Cox is really wicked. Brian Cox is really wicked. I love Brian Cox. You know, he is good and he knows his ship. But I feel like sometimes he's always just trying to make like the universe cool. And it's like, well, it doesn't need to be cool.

18:32It's bloody interesting. Would you be trying to make the universe cool? Sometimes it's maybe it's not him. It's just the edit. But on his shows, sometimes it just feels like they're trying to make it hip. It doesn't need to be. I find it hilarious that you think Brian Cox is trying to be hip. I don't think Brian got that. Wasn't he like in a band? He was in Dream. Do you dream even? Yeah, but doesn't mean he's hip. He's just like a young person who like, who just happens to be unbelievably bright. Maybe it's just a younger person talking about astronomy. Jordan, what's your song for this question? Do you want to do that song that you incorrectly did on the last one? No, you got it. It was Rose Royce. Oh, my God. That obviously wants us to throw in a bit of brand new heavies. I mean, why not? It's the astronomy episode. How'd you like me now? I only know one brand new heaviestune. Okay. Rose Royce is always wishing on a star, I think. Let's have another question. Now you can have space to think of another one. There's a Harry Star song about constellations. Mm.

19:32Wanna go to a break, Keats? Yes, let's dance in the stars and have a little break. Dive into the bonkers world of David Mitchell and Robert Webb and listen to their BBC comedy show. From non-sensical maths quiz, Number Wang, to finding out what James Bond is really like as a party guest, there's something for everyone. Hello, M-O-T-T-W-A-T. Yes, that's right. This is the Ministry of Things that are apparently true. Yes, we do exist. The rumors are true, ironically. Start listening to that Mitchell and Webb sound a complete series, one to five, wherever you get your audio books. Welcome back to Listen Bitch. Today we're talking all about astronomy. It's been bloody lovely, actually. I was really scared, but I've really enjoyed it so far. Can we have another question for today's Listen Bitch?

20:32Hi, good morning. My name is Kelly and I live in a beautiful little village called Dettling in Maidstein. Listen to your podcast a lot, started with my love from Lily Allen and my best friend too. My biggest passion other than that in life is astronomy. I spend most of my time looking up at the sky, but I have seen some seriously unexplainable things happen and I wondered if you've seen anything, not UFO or anything fascinating happening in the sky because I feel like there's not enough people looking up. I thought I saw a shooting star when we were in Sri Lanka, but I don't think I did. And I would love to see a shooting star one day. I've seen a couple, man. Have you? I think I've seen three. In England. One in England. I feel like I saw one. I feel like I saw one in Thailand as well. Whoa. They're really cool. Yeah, I can imagine. There's like star showers that you can look out for. Oh, this is a good time to talk about moon dog. Do you remember moon dog?

21:32No, but moon dog is a really cool name. What is that? Remember, it was like the night after New Year's Eve when we were away. And me, Libby and Flynn and Phoebe and Kamal saw this light white orb of light around the moon. Like I can't even explain it. It was like, what is that? It was there for hours. Yeah. And then we looked it up and it was like, that's called a moon dog. And it's very rare. Wow. And it was so interesting to be looking up in the sky, seeing something that you don't even know you're looking for. I didn't know that was something. I wasn't like, I wish I'd seen a moon dog. I was like, what is this? And it really was something very real that stayed with us for a long time to the point where me and Libby and Flynn and Phoebe have a group now, which is a side group on Sri Lanka called moon dog. That is cool, by the way. The fact is called moon dog. I did a ceremony once. And the ceremony lasted until three in the morning. And when I walked outside of where it was taking place, which was actually in a kind of mansion in Glastorbury,

22:34I looked out into the sky. I know this sounds crazy, but just listen. You're so ready. Was it Glastorbury? Yeah. Yeah. It wasn't Glastorbury, first of all. Oh, just the area. It is just the area. And I looked up into the sky and like maybe eight stars just started like flying. I literally just like moving across the sky like a rate bear mind for those who can be between the lines. I was, you know, post a ceremony. So I was already in kind of like maybe an altered state. And I thought she had other people there. And I was going, can everyone see these stars like flying through the sky? They were like, yeah, it's some Starlink. Star what? Starlink. Elon Musk has these satellites. Oh. That look exactly like stars. And fly around the earth. It's actually wild. And then what's mad is when he put them into the sky, there was a massive pushback from astronomers

23:34because there was something to do with the light. The way the light reflected off the satellites obscured like certain calculations and thingies in the night sky. Yeah. I mean, we're really like affecting some old celestial shit now. Yeah. It was insane. Oh my god. I've got a good star song for this. Starry starry night. I don't know what that. I can't think of it. I've gone out of star songs. Well, it's actually a Don McLean song, is it? But James Blake does a beautiful version of it. Does it count if I just name a song by the neck chains? No. Oh, that's good. Yes. Yes. Okay. Actually, that's good. Say that. Oh my god. Starbuster by Fontaine's DC, which is a banger and Jaden a video. That is. Oh. Star Song is sick. Can we have another question, please? Hello, Nikita and Jordan. I'm Sarah and I live in Bedford. And I love your podcast. It's wonderful. On the topic of astrology.

24:35Am I the only one who thinks that if you have to see it through a phone and press this setting and that setting and turn it 180 degrees. And then you can see the Northern Lights. Am I the only one that thinks that that's just not real? Because what else have we been missing on our iPhones? If we use certain settings and not seeing it through the naked eye? I know that we've always had telescopes and you kind of expect certain things to be really, really, really far away. But when it comes to things that everyone's like, Oh, yeah, I saw the Northern Lights and his the amazing photo out of my bedroom window on my iPhone. I'm like, yeah, but you didn't see it with your eyes. So, yeah, I'm really conflicted. Does it count or does it not count? What do you guys think? It hits the soul different, doesn't it? If there's been too much technology involved. But that's why you can't take a good picture of the moon. I love that you can't take a good picture of the moon on your phone. You're not fucking... Can these days?

25:35No, you can't. Not really. No, you can't. I have plenty. Nothing like you can see, though, and feel. Nothing like that. Do you want to know something crazy about the moon, though? Yeah, sure. Always. Okay, so you know they say that, like, the moon controls the tides. Yes. But you know when they say the tides coming in. Yeah. You know that it's not... The water's not moving. The earth is. I think I've been told this before and I think it's fun me out then. It's what's true. So when they go, all the tides coming in, it means the earth... Apparently. ...is retracting. There's like a slight oval. Gravitational pool because of the moon. Is something like that? Right. Yes, yes, yes. When the earth is rotating, the water is being pulled by the gravity. So we're just going further away from where the water is rather than the water is being pulled out and we're still. Let's get what I'm saying. That's trippy to me.

26:36Yeah. That feels a bit like upside down, world. Yeah. A little bit. What do you know? I love all of it. No, it makes me feel like strange. Isn't it mad that you're made of stars as well? That's crazy. We're made of the same things as the star, the same chemical composition. Yeah, I think I did not have to. Thanks, sir. Today that's freaking me out. So let me just tell you that Galilei made the first telescope, which I thought was very interesting. Do we know that for a fact? Because it is probably his girlfriend. Hello, this is from my lunar book, which I really trust. It's not like some AI shitty. Not AI. I just mean like these guys be just stealing shit, bro. No, no, no, actually it was a person just before him who was a glasses maker. But then he made the first like actual telescope, but the other guy made the glass. Do you know what I mean? Already there. Theft already. It's like Colombo. I mean, Columbus. Oh, like Rick. Can we have a final question? School is shutting down after this question.

27:39Starman waiting to die. Nice. Yeah, it's good to have some David. Hi, Mickey. Hi, Jordan. My name's Mia. And I am from Waterford. I'm currently a university student studying politics. My question for you this week is, what is your favourite constellation? And why? My favourite constellation is Orion. And it's for a little bit of a trivial reason. When I was in year three, my class was called Orion class because we got names after constellations. And it was the first year that we had had that happen. But in mint that we learned a lot about the constellation and like the mythology behind it that year. But I ended up leaving the school after that. So I never got to learn about any other constellations. So yeah, I love the podcast. Jordan and I actually came to get your latest album signed by you. And I've, like yesterday, just opened my package that contained Lily's new album.

28:43So they're both sat on my shelf next to each other. But yeah, I love the podcast. What a sweetheart. What a bloody, deeply. When you drop in your album, IKEA. Oh, God, miss me, fan. I know I'm sorry. I know she can have a skipping rope from me. Oh, yeah, exactly. So it's interesting that she said Orion. Okay. Of course. It's the one we don't. Everyone's gone on about it. Orion's the hunter. And if you get one of those apps, I do have one of those like seeing this constellations at night apps. And it is very fun. It is very satisfying when you see these sort of big Greek mythological characters come into the sky. Some major is the Great Bear, Cassiopeia. Cassiopeia, Queen of the Stars. Yeah, I've never seen that. That's the name of my first pet tiger. When do you? Okay. And then sickness is this one, which is also known as the Northern Cross. God, I'd love to see some of these. But I think what I've mainly seen. The plow. Oh, yeah. Of course the plow. Playdeez is also a cool one. I don't know why they're seven sisters, but there are. And then there's a tube station called Seven Sisters. So it's got, I mean, something.

29:43I've never seen a crux. That's like a cross in the sky. Can you imagine? That would be quite intense. You need to shut up at the North Star, bro. Keeps people alive. I mean, it kept me alive as well for a few years. It's the compass of the Earth, bro. I love the North Star. I love that terminology as well. The idea of like your North Star and what's your guiding light and what's your, who's your North Star. You know what? It's making me realize that I really do want to go to the Greenwich Observatory in Greenwich Park in London. Well, I was watching Queen Charlotte. The Netflix spin off with Bridgetown, which is fantastic. Much better than Bridgetown. King George, you know, our king that was sort of dealt with a lot of mental health issues at a time when no one understood anything like that. Part of his illness, but also part of his passion was astronomy. And he built the Greenwich Observatory. Sorry, it's actually, George's was the King Observatory Enrichment. It was Charles II who gave us the Greenwich Observatory. Thank you, Charles II. Fucking thank you. It's just like the fact that we have it. It's so beautiful and magical looking. It looks like it's from a royal dial book.

30:43And it's right there. It's on your side of the river. For God's sake. It's actually, it's right next to where I'm being jaded on our first date. What a place for a first date. I know. Did you go into the observatory? No. Okay. It's a quite nice thing to do for a date. I'm going to do that. That's a great day, ideas like Ross and Rachel first night. It wasn't the first night. You know friends so well. It wasn't the first night. But that was super romantic. Absolutely. You're like, not even a beat. It wasn't the first night. I don't think it was the first day. I mean, maybe you're wrong. I don't feel like it wasn't. It's the night they first have sex. Okay. Under the stars. I did have a fantastic grandfather who wasn't my blood grandfather. He was my grandma, my nanny's boyfriend. He was called Ray. And I loved him very much. He was a complicated man. But I loved him very much. He was a complicated man.

31:43But I loved him very much. And he took me and Phoebe and Theo outside to do things like 10 mile walks. And he taught us to swim in the sea and swim in general. And he taught us about the stars. So I was really lucky. I had someone that really gave a shit that taught me a lot. I don't remember any of it. As we can say. He taught me a lot about the wonderment of the sky and everything around us. But I just wanted to say thank you Ray, my grandpa for doing that for us and that I love you. And I'm really happy that I had someone like you in my life to teach me how to like run, walk, observe and swim. Yeah. And that is how we'll end this astronomy special of Listen Bitch. Jordan, you actually do have a really good idea. So next week's Listen Bitch theme is... Idioms. Coming up next week, I would love you guys to send your voice notes in about idioms. Meaning, sayings that you've heard throughout your life that you've secretly been confused about.

32:44I may have one or two of them myself. Yes, the things we just say, but we're not really sure where they come from or what they mean. We just say them and we don't know the root. Have you ever had an experience where you've said it in the wrong context? On my TikTok, I was saying how I don't understand the phrase, you can't have your cake in here. Doesn't make any sense to me. That's good, I love that. In the comments, people were kept talking about idioms. And as low as idioms that we shorten, so that they mean the reverse thing. So for example, blood is thicker than water. People think that means you should be law to a family, but it's actually blood of the convenant is thicker than the water of the womb, which is the opposite. This is my shit, idioms, idioms. What's that pure voice notes to 0800304090? Do it or else we will not have a show. But you'll do it anyway. I'll see you then. Bye. Bye.

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