
Leisure Is Worship — The Catholic Case for Rest ft. Dr. Tim White
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What if the grind isn't the path to freedom — it's the thing keeping you from it?
In this episode, Catholic therapist Adam Cross, LMFT (#116623) sits down with Dr. Tim White — psychology professor, researcher, and self-proclaimed workaholic — to explore what it actually means to rest in a culture that has forgotten how.
Drawing on the theology of the 8th day of creation, Joseph Pieper's Leisure: The Basis of Culture, and the latest research in psychology and blue zone longevity, Adam and Tim make the case that leisure isn't a reward you earn through hard work. It's the foundation everything else is built on — including worship.
Topics covered: • Why "work will set you free" is a lie from Auschwitz to Silicon Valley • The Genesis story and what was lost — and restored — through Christ • What real rest looks like (hint: it's not Netflix or a beach vacation) • Flow states, play, and why winners in sports look completely incoherent • Mindfulness with God as a secure attachment figure • "The opposite of sin is not virtue but praise" — and what that means practically • Blue zones, enjoyment, and why leisure-centred living actually helps you live longer • Practical steps for stepping out of the productivity trap and into Sabbath rest
If you've been burning the candle at both ends and wondering why you still feel empty, this conversation is for you.
Have questions? Visit my website: adamcrossmft.com Adam Cross, LMFT #116623
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